Morbid - Minimorbid X 2 Cryptids Of The Midwest

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Weirdos! We're bring OG MORBID back! THIS week we're reviving something that many of you have been missing: the illusive MiniMORBID! But fear not! We're going to give you a DOUBLE DOSE of Mini  as As...h & Alaina each talk about a different cryptid of the midwest! Get ready for an unhinged episode that had us laughing HYSTERICALLY! And don't forget the hit the comments to let us know what you think of our pitch for November's Bonus Episode! Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash and I'm Elena. And this is morbid in the morning. Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, morbid. Mini morbid, mini morbid, mini morbid, mini morbid. Times two. A kind of double mini morbid in the morning. Oh yeah, bitches. We are bringing back, you guys love this song so much.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I created a masterpiece back in 2018, 2017, whenever it did it. which is hilarious because it started with the joke. It should have gone like triple platinum. Yeah. Where's my Grammy? But yeah, so we're bringing back the morbid, mini morbid themes on. We're going to start. We kind of do this for spooky episodes already.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Like we each tell a spooky tale. Today we're going to talk about some cryptids. But we were also thinking in the future, sometimes there are like shorter cases that we don't end up covering. Yeah, just interesting topics that are not super long, but for. Very fascinating. That's the thing. And like not always enough for a full episode, but we figure if we combine forces like we do for spooky episodes, we could do it for other topics too.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah. And we can bring back the mini morbid theme song because you guys love it so much. And bitch, old morbid is back in the house. Hell yeah. So here's your mini morbid. Except it's kind of a full morbid. So it's awesome. It's a full morbid made out of two mini morbids.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Exactly. Which is all the more morbid. I said to Mikey we should add a little clip and I don't know if it should be like, times two at the end or like, times two. I like that times two. Because it's like it really hits after that. I think we should add that in. So I mean, we did to this episode.
Starting point is 00:01:45 So you'll find out right now. Yeah. Or you already found out. You found out we chose. You fucked around and you pressed play and you found out. You did. All right. Do you want to go first or do you want me to?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Oh, yay. Cool. I like when you go first. I'll go first. I'm talking about the Beast of Bray Road. Ooh, that's what spooker. Yeah, he's scary, everybody. He's real scary. Oh, God. Hold on, because I just, oh, it's Wisconsin, okay. I forgot where this was.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Hold on, because, oh, it's Wisconsin, okay. Is that, wait, I'm sorry. Is that the Midwest? Yeah, Wisconsin is Midwest. Is Illinois also the Midwest? Yeah, yeah, right? Whoa. Your stomach said yes. Mine is from Illinois, so this is Creatures of the Midwest.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Oh my God, look at that. Look at that theme. Let me double check if Wisconsin. What if everyone is screaming on us right now, bitch, that's not the Midwest. Wisconsin, Wisconsin. You see a lot of geography in first thing in the morning. Yes, Wisconsin is. I knew that.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I feel like Illinois definitely is. No, it definitely is. Because Drew's dad is from Chicago. And that's Midwest. See, I got to stop second-guessing my own fucking knowledge. I knew about Illinois. I second-guessed myself too. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Spooky shit brought to you from the Midwest. Hell yeah. Midwestern spooky fucking shit. All right. So one afternoon in early 1992, which it's the 90s. It was the 90s. I wasn't even alive yet. Of 1992, I was seven.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Wait, that's crazy. You're such a bitch for experiencing more of the 90s than me. Oh, the 90s. No, I know. The 90s. I'm nostalgic for it. There's got to be a different word for that when you're nostalgic for a time that you didn't experience. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I think it's just jealous. There is a word, is there? For that. Let's just pause this episode 80 times to look things up. People are nostalgic for times that they never lived in. Like, I feel like I'm nostalgic for certain times that periods that I never exist. Like the Jack the Ripper time period? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Or like the roaring 20s. Oh, yeah. Wouldn't have been great for us either of those times? No. I'm just nostalgic for like the aesthetic and the vibe of it. What is it called when you're nostalgic for a time you did experience? Expairance. Everyone's like, can you just get to the fucking case? Anna Moia.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Anna Moia. I like that. It's pretty. So you experience Anna Moia. I do. Yeah. For like the, I mean, I was. I, like, experienced some of them, but, I mean, I wasn't called this.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I was going to say, it's because it's, like, me with the 80s. Yeah, nine, even, like, 99, I don't really remember. I can remember, like, flashes. I guess I can remember flashes of 80s things when I was, like, five, you know, like, four or five. I can remember, like, certain music videos. Yeah. Which, like, I feel like I can, like, remember, like, little blips from, like,
Starting point is 00:04:51 mom and papa's house. I also have a very distinct memory. I can literally see it in my head. And I like remember the moment We were shopping with you And I don't know who else But I fell out of my stroller Like face first
Starting point is 00:05:02 Whoa Yeah do you remember that? Why don't I remember that? I don't know you were there though Damn You were there And you were there And I fell out of my stroller
Starting point is 00:05:10 Which explains a lot I don't remember it Face first Damn Yeah I think it's I think you can remember Burst Because I can remember little
Starting point is 00:05:22 Pee's your oldest remembers So much much of her early childhood. And obviously she's still little, so it's not as far away. But it's interesting. I think it's also significant events. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Because when she was four, she was in the hospital. But she even remembers things before that, too. Yeah. But she really remembers that time. I mean, that makes a lot of sense. She remembers every bit of that. I mean, that's traumatic. That's why we love Boston Children's Hospital because they were amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:48 All her memories are pretty good for that. Yeah. But yeah. All right. I don't know how to transition back. to scary monsters, but... Boogie scary skeletons and monsters from the Midwest.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So one afternoon, in early 1992, a time where we feel animoia. Anamoia. I literally just looked it up. It was in Elkhorn, Wisconsin. A bus driver named Pat Lester was just chatting with one of her passengers.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Doris Gypsons. Doris. Doris. Remember when I used to call myself Auntie Doris? Yeah. I love that name. You know, they were talking about strange things that she'd seen.
Starting point is 00:06:25 while she was out driving because she's a bus driver. She's probably in Wisconsin. She's probably seen it all. Including an incident her daughter Lori had had a few years earlier on Bray Road. According to Lester, her daughter had been out on the isolated road at night when she passed what looked like a large dog or a wolf that appeared to have quote, human characteristics. No, thank you. Which sends me into orbit already. What do you mean a large dog or wolf with human characteristics?
Starting point is 00:06:55 What are the human characteristics? Because I'm picturing a full human face on like a furry dog and that's freaking me out. Or like human hands. No, I was just going to say. I just pictured like a wolf with human arms doing my taxes. Because that's a very human characteristic. I just pictured this columping wolf with human feet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Big oversized human feet. Like giant feet. Yeah. Rural Wisconsin. has a chair of wildlife. They have wolves. They have coyotes. So Lori didn't think too much of it and kept driving.
Starting point is 00:07:32 She was like, maybe I just like, it's dark. You know, like, maybe I just saw something weird. I just want to say it's bullshit that we don't have wolves around here. I think wolves are. They are. They're so majestic. They are. They're so fucking.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And they're so pretty. And every once in a while, I'll tell them that our dogs are related to wolves. And they're like, they are. Like, they're like these. They're a lot more domesticated. But as Blanche As Blanche runs up the stairs farting on every step
Starting point is 00:08:00 I'm like she descended from wolves Dolores Dolores has started farting and it is ungodly It is It makes crazy noises I'm like bitch
Starting point is 00:08:11 She just Blanche every time she runs up the stairs She just farts her way all the way out How embarrassing She's not Poor thing She feels not a drop of shame Good for her
Starting point is 00:08:22 But every time I'm like, she descended from wolves I want to come back as blanche in my next life. My kids are like, I don't think she did. Somebody else did. So to Pat Lester, the story seemed like one of those local urban legends or maybe just a misidentification of a pretty normal animal. She was like, I don't know, you were tired. Yeah, so she was like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:08:43 she wouldn't think anything shocking of it. But when she caught a glimpse of Doris Jepson's face, she was suddenly like, you know what? I think something happened here. because Doris was genuinely terrified while she was talking about it. Oh, no. Now, according to Doris,
Starting point is 00:08:58 she had encountered a similarly strange animal to Lori. Yeah. So, yeah. So she, and she encountered it on Bray Road, I think the year before. It was Halloween night. Halloween night.
Starting point is 00:09:13 1999. Oh, God, the aesthetic must have been going crazy. Oh, one thing I do remember very well in the 90s, is 90s Halloween parties at school. Remember that a lot. I remember pictures of 90s Halloween parties. Oh, so good. So this was Halloween night, 1991,
Starting point is 00:09:36 and Doris, who was a senior in high school at the time, was driving home on Bray Road when she felt like she hit something on the street. Oh, fuck. She said, it was kind of smoggy out, and my front tire got lifted off the ground. So she was afraid that she hit an animal. She was like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So she drove about 50 yards and then pulled over And she came to a spot that was kind of like out of the way So she checks the front of her car She sees if anything happened, you know, to be stuck under the car She didn't see anything But she walked around to the back of the car Again saw nothing And she was about to get back into the car
Starting point is 00:10:08 Because she didn't see anything around either But then she looks down the road a little ways And she saw the thing Later she talked about it and she said Here comes this thing Here comes this thing. And it's just running up at me. Oh, you get in your car and you drive out of there, girl. So she couldn't, she was kind of a distance away, so she couldn't tell what kind of animal it was.
Starting point is 00:10:31 She said it was large and hairy like a German shepherd. The fuck. But much larger and it didn't move like a dog. She said it moved more like a man crouched down on all fours. Ew, not a man. And that's why I can't stop picturing human feet glumping down the street. Yeah. But I also just see him in a flannel. Yeah. Right. Oh, wow. Okay. He's got a tattered flannel in my mind. Oh, God. So he's like the straight up werewolf character. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 But big. But she said, I could hear its feet on the asphalt. Ew. As it's running at her. Now, she's terrified, obviously, and she turns and runs back to her car. She gets inside, closes the door just as this thing reaches her and dragged what sounded like claws along the outside of her vehicle. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:19 She told local Germans. journalist Linda Godfrey. I just put my foot on the gas pedal and started going. She said she didn't get a good look at the thing because she was so terrified. It was dark. But she believed it had been chasing after her on two legs. No, no, no. Because she said as she, like when she looked back, she could see its huge chest heaving as it ran. What the fuck? Yeah. I would. It's like terrifying. No, that's so scary. I would never recover from this. No, I'd be, this would be the hot topic and therapy every time I went for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I'd like to talk about the monster I saw. Again, I would love to talk about that humanoid monster that chased me down the street. How do you ever go to sleep again? That's the thing. Knowing that that's like lurking in your, in your whereabouts. Because you know, it's lurking around. And you know, it's seeing you. I'd be like, I don't know how intelligent this thing is.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Maybe it knows where I live and it's going to break into my house. And a real monster is going to fucking wake me up in the middle of the night. And if there's one of them, it perhaps has. a family. Yeah. It has a whole crew. Not a squad. It has a whole, it has a crew like Jacob in Twilight. And when they see you, they're going to say, where the hell
Starting point is 00:12:30 you've been, Loka. Bella, where the hell you been, Loka? I just watched that again. I'm going to say for the record that he's really hot in that movie. Oh, you, all of a sudden, you're team Jacob. I was Team Edward as a gal. And now as a woman, I am Team Jacob.
Starting point is 00:12:47 As a woman. Is that natural? Is that natural? Although, you know what, I'm actually team zero, none of them. Because Jacob comes on way too strong and he kisses Bella with no, uh... I know he does. No consent. Yeah. So not team Jacob, not team.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But he is really hot. I was team Edward. I'm always team vampire. You love a pale man. I do. I love a pale man. I love a vampire. But he just also like, we can't get into this.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Yeah. Let's have a, can we do the bonus episode about Twilight in November? Would you guys kill us? Guys, would you let us do that? Please let us do. I want so badly to unpack the movie. Twilight from an adult perspective. I would really love to unpack the movie Twilight from an adult perspective because I feel
Starting point is 00:13:27 please so many feelings about it. Please. Comment on this post and tell us if you are down for us to do that as the bonus episode for November because that would be really fun. And just know the bonus episode. The bonus episode. The bonus episode. Not a regular episode of bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Just know that if you say that you don't want that, you're breaking two hearts. You're breaking our hearts. Okay. All right. So that's your task. God, I so hope you guys say yes. All right. So when Doris gets home.
Starting point is 00:13:50 home a little bit later. She's been through it. And like we were saying, now she's got to go home. She looked at the side of the car, and there were huge claw marks on the back side of the car near the trunk. Oh, so not only did she have a fucking terrifying experience now, she has to go get work done on her car, which is also a terrifying experience. I was going to say, which sucks. Now, according to Linda Godfrey, the journalist, she saw the mark's firsthand, and she said it appeared as though something with huge claws had dragged both sets along the rear of the car. This motherfucker keyed her car. with its cause.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Linda Godfrey had been referred to Doris by a friend who occasionally did some freelance writing for the local Elkhorn newspaper. Linda had been looking for an interesting local story to publish in the paper. And when she heard Doris' story about the encounter on Bray Road, she was like, whoa, this is exactly what I want. Yeah. And her instincts were right. Doris was just one of several locals who'd seen something strange out on Bray Road.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And their stories would eventually put the little town of Alcorn on the map when it came to supernatural encounters. Now, after interviewing Doris, Godfrey figured the young woman, you know, couldn't have been the only person in town who had seen this fucking crazy, strange, humanoid wolf thing. So she went over to town hall
Starting point is 00:15:04 and tracked down the animal welfare officer, John Fredrickson. It turned out that Fredrickson, who had been working in the town since the mid-1980s, so he's been around. I picture this in my head when I was reading this story because I, this like, like, Hard-hitting journalist, Linda Godfrey.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Of course. Here's this crazy story from Darius. And then it's just like, I'm going to go down to the local animal rescue officer. This is in the 90s. So I'm just picturing it all 90s coded with like a 90s lens. And then she finds John Fredericksson who's like, well, I've been this town's animal rescue officer since the 1980s. And you're just like, yeah, you have. You have stories.
Starting point is 00:15:44 He has authority. You have stories. You have tales. Tell me that. What does he look like in your mind? Oh, I see him. He's older. Yep. Mustache. He's definitely not young.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yep, he's got a mustache. He's chewing on a toothpick. Okay. He's just always chewing on a toothpick. All right. He's got a hat. Yeah, definitely. I'm trying to picture what kind of hat, though.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I feel like it could be similar to like a newsboy cap or like a skelly cap. Oh, all right. Yep. I love a scally cap. Yeah. I think he's loaded those like. He's got a vibe. You kind of just described Dave, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I did. You did. So that's who I picture. Dave also has a skelly cap and a toothpick at most times. It's true. I did just picture Dave. Dave just doesn't have a mustache, right? I picture, yeah, I just picture an older Dave.
Starting point is 00:16:33 All right. I mean, I see it. Older Dave is that grizzled animal rescue officer who's going to tell you his stories. Let's go. Except Dave would be like, you're, that's not real. That's not real. That would be like, that was a wolf. Leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:16:49 We love you. Dave. I love that I pictured Dave. So the good thing is, and this would be a Dave thing to do, he had been keeping a file on what he informally referred to as the Elkhorn Werewolf. Dave would keep the file and he would have all the receipts. Among other things, the file contained copies of reports of a large,
Starting point is 00:17:12 unidentified animal that people were spotting in the area of Bray Road over the years. Local paranormal investigator Jay Baccharacter, Jay Bacott. and summarize all these reports basically as containing a description of a quote, biped of walking humanoid dog with the muzzle, the ears, about seven to eight feet tall, hands hairy. I don't want to say like a human, but humanoid hands with claws, deep set fangs, enormous eyes, just ferocious looking. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Like, what the fuck? I don't like that it can walk on too few. humanoid hands with claws. No. So he does have like human-y hands, just with long nails. Ew. Which is so much works. I don't like how his eyes are so big either.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And he's got big eye. I don't like that at all. I hate it all. I don't like it. And he walks, he's like bi-ped. That's fun to say. Bipedal, I think it is. Yeah, I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah. While the reports themselves were pretty fucking interesting, for Linda's purposes, more interesting were that some people had actually signed their names to the reports. Oh shit. They weren't just anonymous. That's kind of crazy. Yeah, including a report from Laura and Drizzi, a local bar manager in Elkhorn. According to Lori, she was driving home on Bray Road one night in December, 1991, after closing the bar, and she spotted something strange in the ditch beside the road.
Starting point is 00:18:40 That's always when you see the craziest shit on your way home from a fucking restaurant or a bar that you work out. When you see something strange in the ditch next to Bray Road. Keep driving. Keep driving. It's not for you. Now, Lori slowed down as she neared whatever it was by the side of the road. Its back was to her, but she could tell that it was kneeling in the ditch. And she could see that it had pointy ears, like a large dog.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So you keep kneeling in the ditch. You get out of there. This would not have been unusual in and of itself, I guess, like just seeing like a dog and a ditch, you know, like hanging out on the side of the road. I would stop for a dog in a ditch. But Lori said she was immediately put off by the fact that it. it was literally kneeling. Like she was like, immediately I'm like, oh, dog. And then I saw it kneeling.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah. Like, so Godfrey later recalled, she said it was kneeling in a way she didn't think a canine could kneel, like a human. Yeah. So you see a dog in a ditch and your immediate thought is like, oh, a dog, I should stop and make sure it's okay. And then you look and it's kneeling like a human. So you hit the gas.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Fuck that. So when she pulled ahead of it, Lori looked into the rearview mirror and was stunned by what she saw. The animal, she was at least sure that it was an animal at this point, was crouched down and appeared to be eating something. No. She said its elbows were up and its claws were facing out, so I knew it had claws. I remember the long claws. What?
Starting point is 00:20:02 From what she could see, it looked as though it was eating some sort of roadkill. Ew. And when it finally noticed the car slowly pulling up beside it, it turned its head towards Lori. And the lights from the car reflected in its eyes, but it didn't run away. like most animals would, it just stared at her. And she said, it struck her as very unusual that, like, an animal would run away. Yeah, be stunned. Or be stunned.
Starting point is 00:20:28 It literally looked at her and then continued eating. Dislike. Later in her interview with Linda Godfrey, Lori described the beast as, quote, dark brownish-gray in color, somewhere around five feet seven inches in height and around 150 pounds. What a menace. And most unnerving at all, she said it looked old. almost human in shape, except for the head, which looked very much like that of a large dog or a wolf.
Starting point is 00:20:53 She said, to this day, I believe it was satanic. It was just my feeling. I don't really believe in werewolves per se, but I believe something could be, well, conjured up. That was not of God. My favorite thing about that right now is I don't believe in werewolves, but I do believe that's satanic. It's just like, girl, if you believe that's satanic. Don't believe in werewolves, but you do believe in a demon in the ground. Let's not write off men that can turn into wolves on a full moon and say that this is satanic. That's the thing. If you're believing this is satanic, we got to open up the door to werewolves, possibly being real. Like, let's not write them off so fast, okay? I was really rooting for you, girl. I was too. A few days later, Lori went to
Starting point is 00:21:41 the library and started combing some books on Wisconsin wildlife because this was bothering her. I mean, yeah. It would bother me too. She was hoping to find something that resembled what she'd seen on the side of the road so she could just, like, put it aside. She came up empty. And so she visited John Fredrickson's office and reported the sighting, hoping she'd be able to explain something that he could just look at her and be like, oh, that's this. Right. And Frederikson said later, not too long into the conversation, some books that were on the shelf just came flying down. There wasn't really any cause for the books to go flying down.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So that was the end of that conversation. What? Like, what? I'm like, so is the essence of the werewolf in the room with us just fucking with you now? Like, the essence of the werewolf. Is he just, is he everywhere? He's everywhere. He's everything.
Starting point is 00:22:30 He sees everywhere to me. He is. Shout up to Michelle. Honestly, he's everywhere to me. So the deeper that Linda Godfrey dug into Frederickson's Werewolf file, she continued to discover a poor. of this unusual and really scary creature out on Bray Road, all giving more or less the same description.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Not long after she published her first article about it, Linda received a call from a woman in Palmyra, a tiny village of about 1,500 residents, 15, kind of 15 or so miles from Elkhorn. The woman was calling to report something her son, 17-year-old Tom Brickda, had experienced in the summer of 1992, not long after Lori's encounter on Bray Road. I want to go to there.
Starting point is 00:23:16 According to Tom, he and a friend, Chris Maxwell, were on their way home from a wedding reception one night in August, and they passed through Elkhorn. There was an incredibly, like, super dense layer of fog that night. So Tom was driving slowly when they felt a thud, like they'd hit something that they didn't see in the road. It's giving, I know what you did last summer. It is. So Brickda's mother said he thought he hit a mailbox, so he backed up. That's when he realized it was no mailbox. So Tom opened the driver's side window and immediately noticed, quote, a real skunky smelling odor.
Starting point is 00:23:53 So Tom stuck his head out the window, expecting to see a dead or injured skunk on the road. But instead he saw something he still can't really explain. His mother told Linda Godfrey, he described it to me as big and hairy and that it was walking and, quote, reaching out in his direction. What? Now I'm just picturing him like with arms out straight. Come to me. That's what I picture now. And now I'm like, maybe he's not satanic.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Maybe he's creed. Spot the difference. I mean, spot the difference. Maybe it's entirely impossible. That he's creed. The entire band right here. That's why he's so big. That's why he's so big.
Starting point is 00:24:39 He's so many. He's a whole band. He has arms, that whole bond. That's a whole band. what he was doing. I'm screaming. So according to Tom's mother, I just crazy. I just crazy. Biggie's creed.
Starting point is 00:24:51 So according to Tom's mother, the family had a cabin in the woods. According to Tom's mother, he was not creed. He was not creed. The family had a cabin in the woods and spent a lot of time hunting and camping. So Tom definitely would have recognized any of the usual
Starting point is 00:25:21 wildlife, like bears, wolves, coyotes, anything like that. In his videotaped interview, or creed. He wouldn't recognize them. Oh, okay. You never know. In his videotaped interview with a reporter, Tom described it. He said, I saw a faint shadow of actually how big it was.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It was large. Its lower chest or belly was at the top of my car. Oh, fuck. It was whiteish gray with black streaks in it, and it was hairy. I didn't get any facial details, but the lower part of the body, I can describe to a T. It had large legs. The feet were a little fuzzy.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I can't describe them as well. as I can the arm that was reaching for my car. With arms, let's open. The fingers were either pointed or had quite the nails on them. The arm, I like that. I love quite the nails.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Quite the nails on them. I really need somebody to describe my nails as quite the nails. Your fingers have quite the nails on them. Hellie, give me quite the nails. I like that he wasn't, that's a good way to describe it, that he's like, they weren't claws.
Starting point is 00:26:22 They just had quite the nails on them. The arm was long and kind of odd shaped. Hmm. Now, this, the sight of this thing in the road obviously terrified Tom, and he stomped on the gas trying to get as far away as possible. Yeah. A few miles down the road near Highway 106, the boy spotted a state trooper and pulled over to report what they had just seen. So they reported it right away. When he got home that night, Tom got out and inspected his car, and he noticed that the animal had scratched a small piece of the pinstriping from the exterior. Rude. After going inside and telling his mom what happened, they called the sheriff's office. office to report the incident a second time. Now, later, as she was working on another article, Linda Godfrey confirmed the report with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department, who verified that Tom did report that sighting that night.
Starting point is 00:27:09 She also found other reports of an unusual animal sighting that same night. Oh, fuck. Including one report that came in about a half hour after Tom's report. Wow. Yeah, which is strange. This feels legit. Yeah. Like, the sheriff's deputy told Linda Godfrey, someone called in and said they saw a large
Starting point is 00:27:26 object in the ditch at 106 and north and thought it looked like a bear. Oh. A squad was dispatched and saw nothing. The two incidents were seven miles apart. Wow. Now, like Doris Jepson and Lori and Drizzy, Tom couldn't help but notice how human like this thing looked. That's what really stood out to him. It stood on two legs. It walked towards him like a person. Its head and upper shoulder. Shoulders were level with the cornstalks growing in the field beside the road. That description is the scariest thing I've ever heard in my life. Do not ever be level with a cornstalk in my presence. No, don't do it. Keep that away from me. Don't do that. Also, just, if you're next to a cornstalk, I assume that you're dangerous. You're nefarious. As soon as cornstalk's come into play,
Starting point is 00:28:11 yeah, I'm terrified. It's very he who walks with the, he walks behind the rose. Yeah. You know, like that's, I don't need it. Being level with a cornstalk is, that's satanic. Being in the vicinity of a Cornstalk is pretty creed-like behavior. Yeah. So, which is also synonymous with chill out over there. So, Tom said it hadn't noticed us that it looked at the car and looked at me and gave, are you ready? Two thumbs up. Are you ready?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Just kidding. Honestly, not for us. It gave this little snicker like it was challenging us. Oh, so he's like a frat bro. And it says, we were scared. It was huge. What? So he literally was...
Starting point is 00:28:57 He snickered? He was just standing next to the corn. He level with the corn. Like that? He looked over and did... Let's hear yours. The little like... I see.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I picture him as being a little more dingusy. Like he's like he-he-he-ha. Oh, wow. Wow. I picture it more he-he-ha. Oh, I don't like that one. That's almost scarier. It kind of is because you don't want a dingus.
Starting point is 00:29:22 No. Chasing you, you know. Dingus. monster. Honey, I've had a dingus chasing me a couple of times. A dingus monster, in fact. Honey, I've had a dingus chasing me. Honey, the land. Honey, the land. Honey, the land. Honey, the land. I brought a couple home. You met him. Oh, yeah, it's true. Degas is forever. Not forever. But yeah, he said, he said, he said, he, he was, like, challenging them. But he was scared. He didn't like it. To like a duel? Maybe. Maybe. To a sing-off. Oh. He said,
Starting point is 00:29:54 You guys know Creed? Yeah. You guys like that band? Because I am that band. I'll win this. Now, after publishing the two-page spread about what was, she was by then calling the Beast of Bray Road, which is a great name. It is. In the fall of 1992, Linda Godfrey had become a kind of like, you know, representative of this creature at this point.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I mean, yeah, she's done the work. She's doing a lot of PR for him. She's his agent now. She is. Yeah, she signs his manager. Salon agency. No, for a period of several weeks, she received countless new reports about the beast, some relatively recent from like, you know, the previous few years.
Starting point is 00:30:36 While others were much older, when she started out in her investigation, she assumed the beast sightings were a new phenomenon, because a lot of times these things will come up and you're like, yeah, it's only been in the last few years people just made this up. Right. But as the stories pour it in, she started to wonder whether Wisconsin had been home to some strange species that had somehow managed to avoid detection until now. I mean, I could see why she would think that. The article brought more accounts and countless sightseers and crypted hunters to the
Starting point is 00:31:04 area in search of this beast of Bray Road. Which that's not great. But by far, the most interesting among them was the editor of a paper from a nearby town who'd grown up in the area. And after reading Linda's article, remembered a story his father had told him when he was young. According to Linda, the man's father had worked as a night watchman for St. Coletta School for exceptional children. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:25 This was in nearby Jefferson. On the school grounds, there were several, quote, ancient burial grounds. What? Yeah. They were trying to preserve. And the watchmen had taken to include them in their rounds. So they were trying to keep them like at bay? No one to have to be.
Starting point is 00:31:44 They were trying to preserve them. So they were trying to keep them from like vandals, anything happening to them. like, and even the vandals at bay. They were keeping the vandals at bay and keeping the ancient burial grounds safe. And at bay. Apparently, and at bay, apparently. So the night watchmen are using their rounds to, like, go in there and make sure no one's fucking around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:06 One night in 1936, the editor's father, Mark Shackleman, was doing his rounds when he came to the burial grounds and saw a large animal frantically digging into the mound. Like it was trying to unearth something. No, thank you. Unsure of what he was looking at and not wanting to. danger himself. He quickly and quietly backed away. The next night, Mark was again on his rounds when he came upon the beast a second time at the same spot. And this time, though, he shined the beam of his flashlight at the animal. And to his horror, instead of running away, the creature rose onto its hind legs and stood up tall. And he estimated it to be more than six feet tall. Level with the corn stalk. Level with
Starting point is 00:32:50 the corn. The corn. The cower. With the cower. You love it with the corn. Honey, the corn. So years later. How am I going to follow this?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Years later, when he recounted the story to his son, Mark Shackleman described the animal as being covered with dark or black hair and having a terrible odor like long dead meat. A stankass? A stankass. And remember Tom, when he hits something in the road, he smelled like a skunk-like odor. Yeah. So like a bad smell, like an odor, you know? I like the smell of skunk.
Starting point is 00:33:24 That's so weird to me. I won't even get into that because I don't understand it. It's a thing. No. Other people like it. I'm sure it. We're going to have a whole, no, don't use the comment. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:33:35 No, the comments are for twilight. Let's tell us if we can do Twilight for November's bonus episode. Do not support Ashes. I know I'm going to hear a million people be like, Don't support Ash. Ash, I'm on your side. I know everyone's on Ash's side here. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I don't like the smell of scum. But you have to tell us in the comments section about the Twilight bonus episode. Do not. Guys, that was Elena saying it. Here's me. It's Ash. If you can trust me.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I'm not reading from a script. She didn't write this for me. The comments are indeed for Twilight. Yeah. We need to hear your thoughts. I know that I have supporters out there who also like the smell of skunk. I know that. So don't even feel the need to reassuring.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Because I know you're out there. You can PM me. Yeah, there you go. PM you? Oh, private message. I think I aged myself there. Thank you for pointing it out. I think that's like what old people on Facebook said.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I think you can evening you? I don't know your saying. I probably aged myself with that. You cannot evening me. I don't know what that means, but don't talk to me in the evening. Yeah, don't evening me. Anyway, Twilight, Twilight, Twilight, Twilite. Stanky.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So this thing stinks is what we know now. More surprising than its side was, side, nope, size. More surprising than how big it was, was that what the beast did next. Standing before him, it looked him right in the eyes. Confident. And made a sound the watchman later described as, quote, sounding like a proto-human language.
Starting point is 00:35:03 What? It was though the creature was speaking to him, but it wasn't speaking like English like we know it today. What? From where he stood, the only word Mark could make out was what sounded like Gadara. What does that mean? That's not a word.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So we will, so there is something to that. Godara? Yes. Maybe he really wants some Godiva. Godiva. No, they think it's something else. So as they stood facing each other, Mark began to pray, assuming that this thing was going to attack him.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Frankly, I might do the same. Honestly, he was like, I think I'm going to die right now. If there's ever a time to pray, it's when a werewolf yells Godiva. Literally. Now, when Creed in the farm of a beast in front of him. you yells Godiva, pray. By the corn stalks. Or actually, he's on an ancient burial ground at this point in time.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That's even more fucked up. So fortunately, after uttering those strange words at him, it just turned and walked off into the woods. Oh, I would feel cursed in that moment. But here's another thing. So remember how Tom said this thing, like kind of snickered at him, like made a fool with him? Shackleman said, and this was way before this, that account, he said it looked like
Starting point is 00:36:18 it sneered at me. I never saw that thing again or anything like it. What's the difference between a sneer and a snicker? Snickers kind of like a... And a sneer's kind of like a straight like a stank ass face. Like just gives you like a hmm like I'm like I'm like me mugs yeah like that little like oh. Like he did that like a sneer has that like uh feel about it. But not necessarily the motion. He doesn't do that like come at me bro. But it's like that she's kind of someone separating at me. I I think they're like, they want to fight some. Yeah. They're like, come get some.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah. Don't start none won't be none. Exactly. Wow. Yeah. What the fuck? Or like if we're bringing it into today's world, bitches ain't shit. And they ain't saying nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:05 That's what this guy was saying to him. What if they just did that trend? What if they just did that trend? And then he just turned around and walked into the woods and never read. And he kept saying, a hundred motherfuckers can't tell me nothing. He does be, he does be. in the trap. He does. So whatever the beast had said, if it had said anything at all,
Starting point is 00:37:25 it made no sense to Mark Shackleman, obviously. He was like, I don't know what he was saying to me. That would be the most horrifying part. It was only years later after he told the story to his son that it was pointed out to him that the word that the beast spoke sounded very similar to Gadara, the town in the Bible, where Jesus casts out a legion of demons from a possessed man. So I do think this is greed. I think it is. I think it's Creed. I mean, that's...
Starting point is 00:37:54 The only song I know of them is the Arms Wide Open song, but... Yeah, I mean, Creed, let us know. Creed? If you're... Are you the Beast of Ray Road? So the stories of the Beast of Ray Road that Linda had collected not only established a timeline dating back further than anyone had expected, but it also created a pretty unique legendary cryptid that brought a lot of legend
Starting point is 00:38:16 trippers and paranormal enthusiasts from all over the country. to this area. Much to the displeasure of some local residents. Yeah. But one thing Linda's collection of stories couldn't do was provide any indication as to where the animal had come from in the first place. Maybe it's just of the land. Honey the land.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Honey the land. So to some, like Linda, it had probably always been there. That's what I'm saying. On the land. Hiding among, you know, the Wisconsin forests are dense. But others predicted it was something evil. in nature. Throughout the 1980s, there were rumors of satanic cults active in the area, and many, like Lori and Drizzi, who we talked about earlier, couldn't help but think one of those cults may have
Starting point is 00:39:01 brought the Beast of Bray Road into being. Like conjured it? Like conjured this demon. If you have the ability to do that, you need to get to work on some other things as well. And also, I'm sorry, if you believe that that can happen, you cannot discount werewolves being a thing. Facts. You just can't. I will stand on business with that. Ten toes down. who, you know, was the town animal rescue officer for some time, is willing to entertain such theories. He'll entertain any theories, really, when it comes to this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:30 He said, I wouldn't discount some type of occult activity. Yeah. Which, I mean, he did, he was the one who said, like, the books came off the shelves when they were talking about it. But he said, if by chance somebody evoked some kind of occult entities, like, maybe that's a thing. So he believes that, like, maybe the occult is involved here. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And he was brought into being. Or maybe there's just ancient shit in the world that we can't explain. I think there's just ancient shit that we, that have realized that we all kind of suck and that it should stay away from us. Probably. And they do. And then every once in a while they don't because they're like, because I think he truly has the, the mentality of bitches ain't shit. And they ain't saying nothing. Well, and he also, like, he's not really.
Starting point is 00:40:12 You can't tell me nothing. Like that's why he's like, I'm not worried about you. Well, he's not really seeking anybody out. They're stumbling across him. Exactly. He's like, I'm just trying to eat roadkill. He's just out late night, you know? He is. He's just out late night eating roadkill. It's just like that sometimes.
Starting point is 00:40:26 You know? He's just having his version of a foe-f-fo. It's also nice that he's eating roadkill and he's not. Yeah, he's not. Nobody saw him actively kill anything. I have this one story thing about him, like this one set of research about him and nowhere in it do I see him tearing apart animals that are alive. So he's a pacifist. Is he trying to maybe kill him? humans. I think he's just trying to fuck with them. Or he's trying to be like, get the fuck back in your car. Maybe he's trying to teach us all some
Starting point is 00:40:56 survival skills. And he's like, listen, none of you have a survival instinct. You're all getting out of your car looking at me, a strange-ass motherfucker who's on par with the corn. Who's bamphing through the night. And it's like, you're all getting out of your bamping through the night. And it's like, I'm trying to chase your ass back in your car so you know never to get out of your car again. What's up? That if you are driving late night, do not get out of your car. And maybe that's why he actually talked to the one guy who was the night watchman.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Because he was like, I know you don't have a car, so Godiva, okay? And I think he also was like, last night you did the right thing and you just ignored me while I was on the mound. Now you're shining a light upon me. Now you're shining a light on me that doesn't feel very survival instinctish. So I'm going to teach you. Go on. Get! I'm going to teach you, Godava.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And then he just... And sneer. And then he walked back into the woods. say, they ain't say nothing. So that, I think that is the Beast of Bray Road is just out here trying to teach us all some survival instincts. I'm kind of obsessed with him. Yeah, I think he's pretty great. I think he's real.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I think there's... I kind of love his attitude. I do too. A sneer, the snicker. I also feel like there's not just one of him. I feel like he's got a squabre. Oh, yeah. I think they're all...
Starting point is 00:42:13 There was a couple different color descriptions. Yeah, there was some darker ones, some lighter ones. So I think we have a whole crew here, and I think they all have fucking attitudes. Also, maybe it is a twilight thing. And they're just like people in the day and then they shape shift. Like Oz even from. Oh, yeah. From Buffy.
Starting point is 00:42:32 You know, and then they have sick-ass tattoos like Jacob and his squad. Hell yeah. I hope that they don't imprint on children. Don't do that. That's why we need to talk about Twilight. Okay, because we will talk about the future ones. If you let us, if you let us. If you let us know, this could be a beautiful gift.
Starting point is 00:42:46 It could be a beautiful thing. We want to make you guys happy with these bonus episodes. I really... It's in your hands. Give us the opportunity to provide you Twilight happiness because I can provide. We can provide. We can provide. No, honestly, if you guys don't let us do Twilight, I might cry.
Starting point is 00:43:03 So... Sorry, I took a bite of a donut. This bitch just has a chipmug cheek full of a Boston green. I really do. That's so Boston of you? All right. I'm back. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I took a bite right. as we hit record. And I was like, whoa. Don't up break. Don't up break. Yeah, we got to do Twilight. Please. It's going to be great. Please. You want more of this, more of this commentary? Let's go. Let's go. Open it up. All right, honey, well, it's my turn. And we're still in the Midwest, have no fear. We haven't traveled out of there. Good. We're going to be talking about the Enfield Monster. Not to be confused with the Enfield Poultergeist. I was confusing them, so thank you for telling me. I'm glad that I could be of assistance in the Enfield place. So on the evening of April 25, 1973, 50-year-old Henry McDaniel and his wife, Lil, they were just coming home from like a school function.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Henry and Lil. They got home a little past nine and they found their two kids in a state of absolute panic. That's not where you want to find your kids. No, they were freaking out. And according to them, they obviously stayed home alone after their parents went out. Not long before their parents got back, they started hearing loud scratching noises at the door. Yeah, I don't want any of this when I come home. And when whatever was at the door wasn't able to get through, they said it moved on to the windows
Starting point is 00:44:27 and that they also heard claws scraping across the metal of the air conditioner outside or like the condenser. It's time to burn the house down. Get rid of the entire. Well, no. Where else are you going to seek refuge? I mean, I don't know. This doesn't feel like a refuge, though. I know.
Starting point is 00:44:43 but don't be burning down your house when the cryptids are outside. I mean, that's never really a good solution to anything burning down your house, but here we are. You heard it here first. Don't burn down your house. So neither of the kids managed to really get a good look at the animal. The best they could say was that it was just like a weird creature. So obviously the parents were like, okay, we won't leave you home again. The amount of times my kids have been like, did you see that weird creature in the woods?
Starting point is 00:45:06 And I'm just like, it's probably a deer. You know, it's actually wild. That literally happened this morning. I believe it. One of the kids. First of all, saw something crazy in the forest and then told me that there was a pelican on my head this morning. Yeah, we sure did.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Fun fact, no pelican on my head. Yeah, can confirm there was not a pelican on her head. She looked in the tree, though, and she was like, I saw something big and brown and furry in the tree. That's why it's moving so much. And I was like, that's a squirrel. That's just a squirrel, babe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah. It's a brown squirrel. So I'm sure these parents were like, that's just a squirrel, babe. And that's the thing. And Enfield is like, it's a rural place, but it's not so remote that they would have to contend with aggressive or confrontational wildlife. So they were like, okay, I don't know about that. Yeah, they're like, it's probably fine.
Starting point is 00:45:46 But then, not long after the kids like went through the whole story, the entire family started to hear the sounds again. So the parents were like, fuck, should have believed you. Damn. Henry later told a reporter, this thing was trying to get into the house. Oh, I hate that. So now concerned that whatever it was, you know, might succeed this time because obviously it's trying and trying again.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Henry ran to his bedroom and he grabbed a flashlight and a 22 caliber pistol. that he kept on his bedside table. By the time he came back, the beast moved from the front of the house, moved on. So he slowly opened the door, aimed the flashlight out there. And after a quick sweep of the yard, the flashlight's beam landed on the thing that had been clawing at the door.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And now it was standing between two flower bushes at the edge of the yard. Later, Henry said it had three legs on it, a short body, two little short arms, and two pink eyes as big as flashlights. That sounds horrifying and hilarious all at the same time. And kind of adorable. It has three legs and two little stubby arms.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Two little stubby arms, literally T-Rex arms. And it's just standing between two flower bushes. You know what it sounds like? It sounds like a child's drawing. It does. Because it also has pink eyes. Yeah. It sounds like a kid's drawing.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Mikey just asked me if I farted in its eye. And the answer is no. Because this was 50 years ago, Mikey, did you fart in its eye? Oh! Oh, fired. Boom, raced. Boom fired. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Don't kill me. You guys all love Mikey. I get it, Elena. So from where Henry was standing, the shape of the body, he said, like, similar to yours, almost looked human. He said it was around... I thought you were saying similar to my body.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Similar to your body, yoddy, yon. It almost looked human. I was like, wow. Your shots are just ringing. now in this podcast studio. I thought you were like, similar to yours, it looks almost human. I was like, whoa. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I realize I've had some kids, but. But damn. To you. What if I ever said something that diabolical to you? That's what I was like, whoa. Similar to y'all cryptid idea. Similar to the beast of Ray Road. Yes, similar, let's not to the beast of this podcast.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Arguably, I'm the beast of the podcast. Actually, arguably you are. I can't. I can't breathe. I can't read. I'll own it. No. Similar to your cryptid.
Starting point is 00:48:47 It looked human. It was a little shorter than yours. Your cryptid from you. Actually, it was around your height. It was about five and a half. feet tall. Maybe I am this group. Well, it was a grayish color. I mean, I've been there. After you get burned, actually, I've two-hans those kids, you were pretty gray. So far, I'm checking off all the bottom.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I don't think I'll ever recover from you thinking that I said you were almost human. We might need to pause so I could breathe. Hold on. It was after you were like, Mikey, you're a hundred. Then you were like, similar to you. I looked almost human. I was like, whoa. No. She's just like, pab, blah, blah. And you know what, Debbie? Cran, run. All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:49:42 All right. All right. Get it together. Get it together. So from where Henry was standing, the shape of the body almost looked human similar to your cryptid. Thank you for that. It was around five and a half feet tall, except it was a grayish color.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Okay. From the doorway, he aimed the pistol and he fired in the direction of the beast at least four times. He was not fucking around. No, he was like, die. He was like, die. He said, when I fired that first shot, I know I hit it. The creature gave out a hiss, much like a wildcats.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Then after it cried out, it just turned around and got the fuck out of there. And he said it covered 50 feet in just three or four bounds before disappearing into the woods completely. Holy shit. It's literally like Edward Cullen when he runs really fast. Yeah, hold on tight, Spider-Monkey. Look at me pointing back to Twilight to get it on your mind again. There's so many things I want to say even about that, just that one. And we will.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Seen alone, and you better let us. Yeah, you got to. So he was shocked by whatever the fuck he just saw in the backyard. So he ran inside and he said, 911, I'd like to report accrupted. And two state troopers arrived a short time later because they didn't have a lot to do, I guess. Yeah, they were like, let's see what this is about. So they arrived obviously way too late to see what this was. But with Henry's help, they were able to find the tracks that the animal had left behind or decrypted.
Starting point is 00:51:13 and they were nothing like anybody had really seen before. The tracks of the dirt looked somewhat similar to what a dog might leave behind, or an animal with like a similar foot pad, but it had six tow pads on each foot instead of five. It's a six-toed, three-legged, stumpy-armed, bitch. Great thing. Yeah. Or bitch.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Or bitch, if you're nasty. So the three men searched the perimeter around the house and a short distance into the woods too, but they didn't really find anything aside from the prince. Back at the house, they listened, as Henry described what this was. And at first they were, I was like, what? They said maybe it's just a large dog that you never have seen before. A large six-toed dog.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Maybe it's a large six-toed dog with three legs. That's five and a half feet tall. And has tiny arms as well. Makes sense. They were like, I don't know. Honestly valid. Why not? Just throw that out there.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Yeah, just in case. It might stick to the wall. Yeah. Henry was like, no, nope, not a dog. Pretty sure it wasn't. But after listening again to this, description trooper james masser said that while it seemed highly unlikely one could be roaming the woods of western illinois he said it kind of sounds like you're describing a kangaroo has he seen a kangaroo
Starting point is 00:52:25 before okay so obviously here's the thing kangaroos don't have three legs i was i was getting like as we know but what does he think a kangaroo is well i kind of i sort of see what he's getting at so they don't have three legs but in the dark a tail could have given the appearance of, you know, an animal standing on three legs, especially because they also use their tails for balance, so it might have looked like he was standing like that. But it could have accounted for some of the other features, too, especially because he was like in the dark. Yeah. Because they have those little arms. Yeah. They're grayish. Some of them. That's the thing. He was like, it sounds crazy because I don't think there would be a kangaroo in Illinois.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Just Roman. Like, I've never seen a rogue kangaroo. I haven't either. Personally. To my chagrin. Yeah, I mean, I would love to. I would really love to see a random kangaroo. Do kangaroos have six toes? That I don't know. Let's find out. Do they have toes at all?
Starting point is 00:53:22 At first it said 18 and I said, look. Five toes on each front paw and four toes on each hind foot. Oh, nay. So no. No. Damn. All right. Well, there goes that.
Starting point is 00:53:34 So there's that. Well, he said in the dark, it could appear to have a human shape. Gray is a color for kangaroos. And he said it could have easily. explained the growling hiss that it let out after it had been shot and how the animal managed to cover so much distance in a short time. But like you just said, they don't have six toes on each foot. That's your, that would have been my first question. Yeah. Well, Master suggested it could have been a kangaroo, but Henry flatly rejected that explanation. He said, he once had a pet kangaroo while serving in the army in Australia, so he would recognize one if he saw it. I'm literally obsessed with the fact that he was able to shut that down with that. He said, bitch, I had a kangaroo once. He said, oh, you think you know about kangaroo? He said, I'm going to want up you here.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I had one. This is my kangaroo. This is not. And honestly, that would make me be like, did you release your kangaroo? Like, wait a second. I don't really know what happened is kangaroo. You have a connection to a kangaroo? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Well, aside from taking down the information, there really wasn't a lot, but they could do the troopers at that point. So they conducted their brief search and then they left the house, assuming that that was probably the last they'd hear about it. like this guy's kind of crazy. He's kind of crazy. In a town like Enfield, the population's less than a thousand residents. So there's not a lot that goes on there, especially back then without somebody else in town knowing about it and then everybody else in town knowing about it. So not long after the state troopers had shown up at the McDaniels house, almost 50 to 75
Starting point is 00:55:01 onlookers had lingered in and around the family's yard while they conducted this search, just trying to figure out what was going on. Yeah. And as a result, of course, over the next few days, everybody in town. including a lot of reporters, had heard about the unusual encounter, and they just wanted to hear directly from Henry himself. I would want to hear. Now, Henry was like, hell yeah, I'll tell you everything.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And over the few days after the encounter, he gave a ton of interviews where he described the animal, and he just kept giving increasingly dramatic retellings of the story, which, honestly, if I saw what he saw in his backyard, I'd do the same thing. And when asked how he was able to recall the event so clearly and describe the beats, like all the details, he said, I have a photostatic memory. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah. He also told reporters that he was sure he wasn't mistaken in what he saw because the next day, some school children told him that they had seen a similar looking animal while they were playing on the school's baseball field. Oh. So now we got more. Look at that. He said he was sure it wasn't, quote, a prankster. And he said, because no man can run that fast and leap such distances.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I don't know. Ask Edward Cullen. I don't know. Just saying. Hold on tight, spider monkey. Now, when it came to exactly what the thing was, he didn't really know exactly, but he said he did have a theory. He said, if they do find it, they will find more than one, and they won't be from this planet. I can tell you that.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I like where he went there. I like that he went full stop. He said Martian. He said 10 toes down. This is an alien. It's an alien. They should study it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I'm into it. So when the articles were published in the papers about the sighting, and Henry's phone started ringing off the hook. He said he got around 250 phone calls, mostly from people telling him that they thought he was describing a kangaroo. So everybody was really ten toes down on that. Everyone's so willing to accept the fact that a kangaroo is just rogue in the Midwest right now. They really are. Like everyone was just like, yeah. Because honestly.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Like if somebody was like, I saw something strange last night. Like we're in Massachusetts. I saw something strange last night in my backyard. It looked like this. The furthest thing from my mind would be that's probably. Probably a kangaroo. And if somebody was like, I think it was a kangaroo, I'd be like, I can tell you 100 reasons why it wasn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I can tell you 150 reasons why that's accrupted and not a kangaroo. Pretty sure our climate is not super similar to Australia. No, definitely not. I don't really think they're hanging out here. That's the thing. I don't even know if they really could survive for a long time here. I don't see them roaming around. I don't happen either.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I've yet to see one. Well, according to Henry, one call that he got was from a government representative, who told him it was the fifth sighting of such a phenomenon. And the first being was in 1967 near Denver when UFOs were reported seen in the West. I like that a government representative was like, hello, Henry. Hello, Henry. I'd just like to call you and tell you that you are one of five people who have seen that.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Like, okay. All right, Henry. He's like, here, you know what, I'm going to validate you because everybody's calling you and saying this is not a kangaroo. Or this is a kangaroo. That a government representative loves to do more than to validate you. Yeah, it happens all the time. Yeah, it happens every single day. I see it so much. Me too. In the streets, they're always validation. Just getting on the horn and being like, I would love to validate you today.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Getting on the horn. I love it. So Henry maintained, he was like, yeah, that government official is right. I didn't see a kangaroo. And other people saw this shit too. I mean, I trust Henry here. So he maintained that what he saw wasn't a kangaroo. And he cited plaster molds that had been sent to the lab for evaluation at the tracks that they got. And they didn't look anything like a kangaroo print. Of course not. It's not a kangaroo. Yeah. I actually, we talked about it like quickly earlier, but they're unique and easily recognizable because of the shape of the foot and the fact that they have large claws. Yeah. According to Henry, an anthropologist who had seen the prince casually identified them as resembling
Starting point is 00:58:53 those of a bear. So he's like, that's like the furthest thing from a kangaroo. No, because you look at a kangaroo's claws. They're like, they're long. And like, I think when they're running, they go up a little on them. But still, those are long ass claws. and they're like very spindly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And remember, they said it looked like a dog print with another, an extra toe. So it's like, what? So who knows about the tracks? But while the mystery of the species remained unsolved, what was clear to most law enforcement and local fish and game agents was that Henry wasn't making this entire thing up. Not only had the state troopers actually seen the tracks outside of the McDaniel House, but they also followed them down the railroad tracks and into a cornfield a few miles away.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Oh, they're always up in the corn. Cryptids love corn. Cryptids plus corn equals love. Honey, it's the land. Honey, it's the corn. They're just always up in there. They are. This guy is not as tall as the corn like your guy was.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I forget them. But honestly, that probably made it easier because he could traips through the corn. He was he who walks behind the rows. Walks in the rows. In them. Also, I looked at a kangaroo track. No. Have you seen them?
Starting point is 01:00:02 I haven't even seen a kangaroo track. Oh, it looks like there's only two toes in a kangaroo track. Yeah. No, that doesn't look like a kangaroo track at all. Not a kangaroo. They need to look up their shit before they start citing that an Australian creature is in our midst. Probably. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:00:17 But, you know, the government agreed that it's not. The government. Government. So the mystery deepened a few days later when investigators pulled, quote, something resembling hair off of one of the tree limbs in that field. Gross. Where they were looking around. According to Henry McDaniel, they all agreed, quote, the material looked nothing like animal or human hair. Ew.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Yeah. I don't like it. Now, when he was asked whether there was any blood or other evidence found that would indicate that Henry had hit the animal when he fired that night. He told reporters, the anthropologists saw drippings of a clear substance that they collected for samples, but he wasn't sure what it was. Damn. So something came out of this cryptid or animal, and it was a clear liquid. Something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:00 He just went. It was in a way. Yeah. But they didn't know what it was. Like, they got samples. Well, and it's like, that's the thing because it got shot. Yeah. At least once.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And it's like, is that it's blood? Maybe. Does it bleed clear liquid? It's kind of like a buffy zombie or like a demon. Yeah. Or it's very alien-esque. It is. You know? That's why Henry thought that.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I'm on Henry said. Unfortunately, by the end of April, the story kind of petered out when most of the press and public moved on. But it was revived in early May when Henry called reporters to say he had seen the beast a second time on May 6th. Henry's always seen this beast He is One time, two times He's seeing him
Starting point is 01:01:41 He's seeing him He said he got He was awoken in the night By his dogs barking Around 3 a.m. The witching hour And when he went outside To see what had gotten them so agitated
Starting point is 01:01:50 He saw the same three-legged monsters Standing on the railroad tracks About 75 feet away He said I seen something moving down the railroad track And there it stood I didn't shoot at it or anything It wasn't in a hurry or nothing
Starting point is 01:02:02 And when asked whether he was unnerved By seeing something paranormal for a second time. He said, I wasn't scared. I'd like to have it as a pet and charge admission. It's something that's there and we got to accept it. I'm literally obsessed with Henry. Henry's the best. I like his vibe. Yeah. I like his whole thing here. He's like, this thing is there. Let's just accept it. He's also saying, like, I think we have a connection because he keeps coming back to me. Yeah, and I'm not scared about it. I think maybe we're kindred spirit. So, you know, I see him. He sees me. And I could have him. He said, with arms wide open.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I accept this creature. Full fucking circle. And he would have named him Creed. He would have. So there you have it. There we go. Well, the second signing obviously brought a new round of reporters to Enfield, including WWKI reporter Rick Rainbow.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Rick Rainbow. It's always so fun to say like newspaper names like that or like radio names like WWKI. Because you have to say it like that. Yeah. So Rick Rainbow was accompanied by Edward Phillips, a pet store owner and a big game hunter. Rainbow interviewed Henry and Phillips went out to the area where the animal had last been seen, and he started making plaster casts out of the tracks in the dirt again.
Starting point is 01:03:11 SMAT. Later in his reporting, Rainbow described the tracks as about four inches in diameter and having five distinct tow pads, possibly a six. Not a kangaroo. No, definitely not. According to Rainbow, there were at least three other people in the area who had, quote, seen something that, shall we say, is strange, including the McDaniel's next door neighbor, 10-year-old Greg Garrett, who said he saw the animal about half an hour before Henry had the first time. He said he was in the backyard when the thing confronted him and
Starting point is 01:03:41 quote, stepped on his feet and tore his tennis shoes to shreds. That's the most 10-year-old thing to say in the world. He said, that's what happened to my tennis shoes. Step on my goddamn shoes. And that's the reason they're all fucked up, Ma. Yeah. That's the reason. It's the cryptid. Do you feel stupid now, Ma? Ma, it was a cryptic, not kangaroo. That's why I need new shoes, ma'am. That was exactly what I thought when I read this too. and stepped on my... It confronted me. It stepped on my...
Starting point is 01:04:10 It stepped on my me. What was it? It sneered at me. It did. It sneered. It said come at me, bro. It did all the thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And now I need new shoes, ma. I believe it. So that's... I know, that's the thing. It's like, I believe Henry saw this thing. Yeah. I really wish another adult had. I also wish that.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And not 10-year-old Greg. But here's the thing. The second sighting of the monster didn't just bring reporters. It also brought a small group of hunters from as far away as Indiana. all looking to capture whatever this was and like capitalize on it. No, don't capture him. I know. Well, when in Rome?
Starting point is 01:04:43 The police felt that way too. On the afternoon of May 8th, local police arrested five teenagers from Elwood, Indiana, on charges of violating hunting regulations after they were discovered to be hunting without a license and had literally no proper safety precautions. They were just like wily shooting off into the distance. Literally. Just before they got arrested, they said that they saw a quote, gray hairy creature in some underbrush and that it ran faster than a man.
Starting point is 01:05:09 So let it be, man. It's better than us. Yeah, don't shoot it. If it's better than us, it deserves to be here. That's what I think. It ran faster than you. That's it. If it can outrun you.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Survival of the fittest, baby. It fit. It's the whole thing about, there's another twilight thing where it's like, outrun you. What does he say? As if you could outrun me. I love it. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:05:33 please please you guys I beg of you back to this so they all took aim at the what the beast they called it and they fired with rifles and shotguns and two thought they hit the animal but it still managed to get away so this man is out here
Starting point is 01:05:50 or this creature is out here like Swiss cheese still getting away he's just leaking fluid everywhere ew Elgarra so the arrest prompted White County which is a crazy name for a county
Starting point is 01:06:03 Sheriff Jim Clark Like side note Like side note Maybe come up with a different name That's rude But White County Deputy Sheriff Jim Clark made a public statement Warning everybody else
Starting point is 01:06:17 That they were about to be arrested If they kept shooting this thing He said nothing I know of is in season now Especially monsters Anybody we know of out hunting monsters Especially with guns will be put in jail We are afraid they will kill somebody He said y'all
Starting point is 01:06:31 Monsters are not in season right now That's literally what he said. He was like, I'll let you know. We'll come up with a new law here in Watt County. You think you got a monster hunt and license? I don't know why they're suddenly southern, but they are. It's literally Illinois. If you're talking about monster seasons.
Starting point is 01:06:47 There's like a Chicago accent, but it's really hard to do. It is. It's hard. I don't even try because I'll piss you all off. I don't want to do that. I have family from Chicago, okay? Yeah, we're not out here trying to piss off Chicago. We love Chicago.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Sometimes Drew has a weird Chicago accent. I love that for him. Yeah. But anyway, by Ben May, most people, in and around Enfield, we're pretty tired of the Enfield monster. How could you be? It's ridiculous in my opinion. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:07:10 They just wanted things to return to normal, which I've never wanted. I can't relate. I can't relate. The editor of the Carmi Times wrote, The case of Enfield's alleged monster has, for all intents and purposes, reached a climax, and apparently is going downhill. I mean, let's take a ledge out of there. It's a fucking monster.
Starting point is 01:07:26 It is. Even the sheriff thinks so. Yeah. At the sheriff's office, deputies were writing out citations left and right to would-be monster hunters for trespassing, violating local hunting laws, and other city officials were frantically trying to answer questions from reporters who were like, hey, what's up here in White County? What's up with this monster? Sheriff Roy Posherd told reporters, he had already, quote, declared an end is going to be put to the monster kick before somebody gets hurt, and he loses his mind answering
Starting point is 01:07:52 queries from news media. He was like, I'm going to go crazy on your butts. I don't want to talk to you all anymore. He's like, go on get. Go on get. So whether local law enforcement and residents wanted to be done with the monster was kind of irrelevant. As long as there was still some interest in the beast, and it turned out there was. Of course. So after speaking with Rick Rainbow about his reporting, I think it's Lauren Coleman,
Starting point is 01:08:13 a graduate student at the University of Illinois, he decided to come to Enfield and study the animal himself if he could. He had spent years collecting data on similar sightings of unidentified animals all around, and he thought that the Enfield monster could actually be a legitimate case of a previously unseen species. Yeah, because that's the other thing. It's like, it doesn't have to be a monster, everybody. We don't know everything that's on this planet. That's that we discover new shit all the time.
Starting point is 01:08:40 So like, called science. Look it up. Could just be a new strange looking animal. That's what Lauren said. He had a degree in shit. Yeah. So unfortunately, though, after just a few days of, you know, looking out for the beast, he gave up on his search when he came away, or when all he came away with was just a few nice pictures of the white county countryside. Pretty. Yeah. Name it something else. He insisted he wasn't giving up, but he told a reporter he wouldn't resume his search until there was more definite information. Which is like kind of a bummer. So the final word on the monster came in mid-May when a letter from a man in Ohio arrived at the office of the Karmie Times addressed to the publisher. The letter writer, Alan Yorkshire, had read all the stories about the Enfield Monster.
Starting point is 01:09:21 And like many, he believed the description matched that of a kangaroo. And he was wrong. Guys, it's not a fucking kangaroo. If this is a kangaroo, I'll eat my hat. It's not. But this is crazy. The difference between his suggestion and like the suggestion of countless other people was that he actually owned a kangaroo. Okay. Maybe you're an expert, but I don't know. It's not a kangaroo. I'm going to eat my hat. According to him, his pet kangaroo Macy had gone missing a year earlier. And he believed that she was stolen by somebody who was relatively local. Macy did kind of fit the description of the monster and was described by her owner as a well, as well trained. and gentle. And in his letter, Alan indicated that he would be traveling to Enfield soon and would offer a reward to anybody who could lead him to Macy. But as far as anybody knows, he just never
Starting point is 01:10:10 showed up in town. Are we sure he had a kangaroo named Macy? I don't know. Is this very valuable information? I mean, he wrote to the people. Or did he just say, like, so I had this kangaroo named Macy? I mean, I don't know. She turned up missing. I have no idea, but I think he had a kangaroo named Macy. That's just so specific. I know, almost too specific. I never know. Unfortunately, he didn't come out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Well, it turned out that the letter from Ohio was the last piece of, you know, significant information on the origins of the Enfield monster. A year later, a reporter from DeKalb traveled down to the town to see if anything had come of the story, but most people were pretty eager to put it behind them. A waitress at Echo Cafe said, I think it's about all over now. I heard the sheriff told him he better not be seeing any more monsters or he'd be off to the funny farm. She's talking about Henry.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Damn. Poor Henry. So whether or not law enforcement actually told Henry to keep his mouth shut is unknown. They might have. But what is clear is that once they put the story behind them, the sheriff's department fully intended to keep it there. In 1974, Sheriff Poschard said, no, there ain't no damn thing to it. I let all that stuff go on until he got people with guns out there. I mean, I can understand that he doesn't want people with guns trying to hunt this thing.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah, that's kind of the sheriff's worst nightmare, I'd say. That I totally get. That's very dangerous. Yeah, that's the thing. It could have all been fun. None of you needed to shoot this thing. You could have just been like, ooh, we have a fun local monster. Like, just let it be.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Things just got too risky once everybody was shooting willy-nilly. We have plenty of local monsters floating around the Bridgewater Triangle. Yeah. None of us are out here trying to kill them. No. Let them be. Let them live. They were probably here before on any of us.
Starting point is 01:11:48 They definitely were. So I don't give shit. Puckwajis, all right. You out there? I think they're out there. Thunder birds. Whenever I take Dolores out at night, I'm like, fuck, puckwogis. I think about it frequently.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Thunderbirds. Giant, giant snakes. It's, it is what it is. Puck woggi's are my biggest worry. Yeah, Puck woggis will fuck you up. I don't want to fuck with them. But that's the thing, I don't want to fuck with them. And I'm, they don't fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I'm not trying to kill you. Don't try to kill me. It's what I always say, Puck wogis, live and let live. Exactly. Puck woggi. I live. I let you live. Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Well, a few years later in 1978, a team of sociologists weighed in on the Enfield monster and they called the story. Boo, a classic case of social contagion. Whatever, man. Based on their analysis, the number of actual sightings were a lot smaller than most people thought they were. False. And one of the supposed sightings, you know, the one that Greg Garrett had seen, was a practical joke, unfortunately. I mean, I'm not shocked.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I think he just fucked up his tennis shoes. Yeah, he did. Absolutely. Yeah. In their final report, the team concluded, of the several monster reports discussed in Enfield on the McDaniels first-hand reports and the May 6th report of the WWKI party, were made by people who, or were made by people who, in all likelihood, thought they saw something. But Henry McDaniel maintained that he did indeed see an unidentifiable creature in his guard that night. And the state troopers did find evidence of a strange fucking animal having been there.
Starting point is 01:13:15 He saw something. So something happened in Enfield that night, even if we don't know for sure what it is. And that is why the Enfield monster has remained a local Illinois legend ever since. Illinois, you have a monster. You do. And it's okay. And it's not a kangaroo. No. It's not a kangaroo and it's okay. It's fine. It's all right. Also, if White County is still named that, you really have to change that. It's crazy. That goes crazy. It goes really crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I believe Henry. I believe Henry. And I'm prepared to defend him. Yeah. I think our cryptids should team up and just take over the Midwest. Yeah. I think so. I think they have. I think so. You know? Yeah. The Beast of Bray Road, I think, could really do some damage. I think he did. Seems like the Enfield. He was just hopping along.
Starting point is 01:14:02 He was just hanging out. Yeah. Did he want to get in the house? Maybe. Maybe he was cold. Exactly. It's a Midwest. It's like, are you for the dark?
Starting point is 01:14:10 I'm cold. Maybe that's what it is. Yeah. And maybe he was knocking, but it just sounded like he was scratching because he's got krillics. He's got acrylics. It's like Shina Shee. She can't make a fist.
Starting point is 01:14:19 She can. How are you going to knock if you can't make a fist? You just got to tap with your nails. She taps on that phone. There you go. Sheena Shee. I am watching old Vanderpumpurals episodes So that's very relevant
Starting point is 01:14:30 All right, well I love these cryptids Those cryptids Let us know if we can cover Twilight Because we're gonna On the bonus episode On the bonus episode The bonus episode
Starting point is 01:14:41 And not the actual episodes Bonus Bonus bonus We hope you keep listening And we hope you keep it weird But not so weird That you know Actually do keep it so weird
Starting point is 01:14:51 That you spot a cryptid in the wild And then please tell us all about it Yeah And let us do Twilight I mean yeah We're doing it. I've decided. Executive decision. Executive decision stamped.

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