Morbid - Morbid Network presents: A chat with Rachael O'Brien from Seven Deadly Sinners (Special Episode Sneak Peek!)

Episode Date: January 16, 2021

Hey weirdos! We want to allow you to get to know our little family here on Morbid Network, so we decided to start a special interview series where we chat with the hosts of these handpicked shows and let you get to know why we love their guts! With these special episodes, you also get a sneak preview of their latest episode to really wet your whistle to dive into a new pod. Yes, that was a disgusting sentence but that's who we are.  Today, we chat with the hilarious and delightful Rachael O'Brien of Seven Deadly Sinners. Get to know this wonderful creature and then take a listen as she guides you through some of the most horrific examples of deception, committed under the guise of faith.  LINK TO FULL EPISODE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/seven-deadly-sinners/id1515042150 Follow Rachael! Instagram: Rachelnobrien  Twitter: Rachelnobrien See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hey weirdos, I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And we are here with Rachel O'Brien. Ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh-ruh- Oh, I love that. I want people to always do that when they say my name. Everybody take note. I feel like I'm in a club right now. You are. You're in the morbid club right now. Yeah, we keep it real weird up in here. If you hear a little like,

in the background, just go with it. That's my cat's having a race. That's really the only club I want to be in. Yeah, of course. Same. Well, Rachel O'Brien is in case you don't know what you should know, and if you don't know, now you know. Rachel O'Brien is the host of the Seven Deadly Centers podcast. It is phenomenal.

We are obsessed with it. We are obsessed with it. In the best way. Thank you. And if you're listening right now, you're definitely a morbid listener, and you will, this is right up your alley. It's so right up your, like weirdos will fall all over this.

Yeah, 100%. Just to give you guys a little taste, we wanted you to meet Rachel, we wanted you to kind of hear what the podcast is about just so you get a feel and we're gonna give you a few episodes that you can jump to to get your feet wet. So, hi, Rachel.

Hello. Thank you so much for chatting with us. Thank you for having me and talking about the insane people I like to talk about on my podcast. And you have truly covered some insane, isn't even the word. Yes, some of the strangest cases I've ever heard of were on 7 Deadly Centers. Yeah. I think it's like the biggest group of narcissists.

Like, and they don't have to, they don't even, like, the crimes they commit are also varied and different, but though number one thing about the crimes they commit are also varied and different, but though number one thing about them is they're just like overconfident psychos. Yes. I feel like that's what you need to be like a cult leader or like a religious leader. Yeah.

Any kind. Totally, totally. You have to believe, like if you can look at people with a straight face and be like, yeah, I talked to God. Yeah, what's up? Yeah, and it's like, yeah, confidence is key for that. Like his message is coming through me right now. Yeah, I'm the only one that he talks to. So you should

listen to me. Oh, okay. Billions of people on the surf just me. Yeah, he just chose this average ask. Sometimes totally below average. the most below average. Post the time actually. It's totally subpar human, he chose to speak to. So first I just wanted to point out, cause Rachel hosts this solo. And I just wanted to say, you are one of the best solo podcasters, hands down.

Well, like, thank you so much. Truly, because we were just listening to one of the episodes that actually the episode that we're gonna be telling you guys to go listen to. It's one of the newest ones. And it's about Tony and Susan Alamo. And your voice and the way that you podcast, because it's you, like solo podcasting is a skill.

We've done it like once or twice when one of us was on vacation. And I was just sitting there like, shitting myself the whole time. Like, not good. Oh no. Like, no, no. Like, neither one of us. It is hard. Yeah, I feel like because if your guys isn't, isn't like, it's conversational more so than like scripted.

I have a very hard time doing what you guys do solo. I've written it completely out. So it's like a little easier. Yeah. I mean, I'm not really improvising anything at that point. But even that is hard because you don't come off like you're reading.

No, you really don't. No, you really don't. Like a script, it comes off very like conversational. But you never trip up or anything. Like and it's just not having someone to bounce off of. I feel is so hard, but you've like mastered it. Well, thank you. I wonder if you guys feel this way.

Like when you, like the people you're covering are scumbags, obviously. For sure. But like, where do you, because I always feel like, because I make so much fun of these people. Oh, yeah. I make fun of their appearance. I make fun of their, like, you know, their personality.

I make fun of everything about it. Oh, yeah. And I feel like you guys do the same thing and like, yep. I always am like nervous that someone's gonna get like offended and I'm like, but why are they getting offended by me making fun of someone that literally like,

destroy, destroy people? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh yeah. Do you guys ever get nervous about that? Oh, for sure. Because every once in a, I mean, it's the smallest of small minority,

but you get the people that are like, you know, it really annoys me that you were mean about Ted Bundy. And you're like, you should self-evaluate a little. So we've definitely, like, you want to be me, but he's like a really bad person. We can say that his unibrow is bad. Even like BTK. And like his name alone, we should be like roasting him on. And like all of his crimes, like his name alone, we should be like roasting him on. Yeah. And like all of his crimes, but okay, so okay, Susan.

We, but sometimes you just want to like step back and not go as hard, but like we always just go hard. I also think it makes it easier to get through it because you have to laugh at them because so you can laugh at something. Exactly. Totally.

Like galos humor. Yeah. You need it to get through it. Yeah. Is that what I can real term galos humor? It really is. It's like Gallows humor. Yeah. You need it to get through it. Yeah. Is that like a real term, Gallows humor? It really is. It's Gallows. It's like a term. You hear it a lot with like, you know,

like with morticians or anything like that. Like, I know we talk about it. It's like autopsy technicians that you have to have Gallows humor. And it's like, you know, way back in the day when they were doing public executions. It was like, the executioners would be like, oh, let's make fun of this. I'm just exactly what they sound like. They just look like, you know,

under the black hood. Yeah, right? It's scary executioners, like, look at that. Well, well. But you got to make like a joke out of it just to get through it. So it's not eating you alive later, you know, totally. But so the first thing I just want to ask you

is because your podcast focuses mainly on these like culty, religious, I think we were talking about it earlier and we said that the requirement is kind of like to be sweaty. I feel like he's a sweaty, gross human who thinks everybody needs to listen to them. Yeah, these people that can really gather an enormous amount of people to believe what they're saying,

mostly religious-based. Like, what made you wanna do an entire podcast about this? I think because it bothers me, like, it's such a specific type of person that you're taking people that are in their most vulnerable state. Like they need a religious, and they need a soft place to land

when they're going through a hard time. And you're that much of a scumbag that you're gonna take advantage of that time. It's like, it's almost like, you know, kind of like the episode you just did with the Girl Scout, even though the counselors weren't like abusing them. But let's say, for example, the counts that like that they set

up a camp. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Children, which has happened before. It's like, you're just the worst type of person. And I and the hypocrisy of it, I think I just wanted to narrow. And also, I needed to narrow it down. Otherwise, I'd be like, to the end doing serial killers tomorrow. I'm gonna go for it.

It's like, I'm doing crazy. Yes, so I needed also for my brain to focus. Yeah. It really is such a good idea to do it about this because like you said, the kind of people that pray on people who are at their worst and are the most desperate and the most vulnerable are the scariest and also the most fascinating

psychopsychologically, you're like, wow, I just need to. And they often prey on the fact that they're at the lowest. Like, for example, like in the first season, I mostly did televangelist, they literally say, God really knows you love him when it's your last thousand dollars and you give him really me, your last thousand dollars. That's how you really proved your yeah, it's so messed up. It's so scary. And you just wonder how these people like put their head on the pillow at night. Seriously? This is okay on their silk pillow. It's a huge. Huge mansions, these people are literally like living on the street. Like, it's so sad.

Like, they're followers. Seriously. It truly is terrifying that these people exist and that they can so, like, quickly and easily manipulate people because some of the people they manipulate are very smart people, right? Yeah. People you'd never see it coming.

So it's kind of scary to listen to because they're like, ugh. And one of the guys, he, spoiler alert, but I mean, whatever. He got out of prison for already murdering someone, went to this small town in Michigan, became a pastor there, got engaged to one of the women who was a congregant, but had a crush on her 22-year-old daughter.

Oh, I think I know that one. I think I'd listen to this one. Yeah, and murdered her 22-year-old daughter in order to... Yeah. Well, I'm not gonna give it all the way. Yeah, that's it. But like, not really.

How vulnerable is that poor woman? Like, she thinks she's engaged to this man. It's just kind of basically trying to get close to her daughter. It's like, so messed up. Yeah, and he's the town pastor. Like, ugh. Oh, so it's like not only just this one woman, it's like an entire town for his bullshit.

Yeah, it's insane. It's so crazy. It's that stupid confidence. It really is blind confidence. He had a face like an elbow like he was a lot of traction. I don't know how other could love a face like an elbow. It's awesome. It's so much. So one of the cool things about Seven Deadly Centers and one that I think like takes it apart from other podcasts is that

you have categorized them into the Seven Deadly Sins. So your different cases go into a different sin like wrath, lust, greed. And I love that because I've always been fascinated by the Seven Deadly Sins. Like seven, that movie's phenomenal. I love that. That's what you thought of. Because I thought of the America's next top model photo shoot where they had to be the seven deadly sins. That is so classic. That was so perfect. Wow. That's exactly what I thought. And you're like, no, like real life, not really horror movie. But what would

be your what is your favorite sin so far? Like what are the cases that have fit into your favorite sin so far? I would say either gluttony or greed. And those ones are usually kind of, they're very similar because it's like both of them are like they can't, because gluttony doesn't necessarily just apply to like people think it's just consumption like food.

Yeah, it can apply to like, over consumption of anything. So it can also be over consumption of wealth at the expense of someone else, or your, you know, normal thrills aren't good enough, meaning like, so that guy was just mentioning the murderous preacher, fine, he's a necrophilia, I just gave it away. But like, I put, I mean, it's gluttony

even though that's like, obviously not, you know, consumption related, but it's like, your desires are like unquenchable. Like you can't, you have to just take it too far. Right, that makes sense. There you go, yeah. So that one and Greek, because they usually can cover like,

yeah, so many different things. Yeah, it's like all encompassing. Yeah, for sure. And Greek, I feel like is so dark. Like Greek takes you into a real dark place. I feel like Greek would be the best. Yeah. And actually,

that Susan and Tony Alamo are, because they were living in a like a 13,000 square foot mansion. And their followers were like 200 people to one bedroom room, like just a room. What's the biggest? Unbelievable. That is unbelievable. It truly is. It's insane.

And speaking of Tony and Susan Alamo, that's the episode that you have just put out. It's one in a four-part series. Is it? Yeah, it's gonna be four, because there's Tony and Susan Alamo when they're together. And then there's what Tony Alamo mutates into after she's gone. That is weird.

Yeah, he like literally has a full psychotic breakdown that I can't even. Yeah, I I don't think I'll ever get his buddy Holly of of little Yankee girl out of my psyche, which is so creepy because he ends up taking eight year olds as child bright. Oh my god, I hate it. Okay. And if this song is going little Yankee.

Yeah. He makes the word girl so, like feel, it feels slimy. It feels disgusting. It stinks like mold. It makes, he makes the word girl like a curse word. It makes, like a dirty word, like stop that. Every time he said, like it was playing on the speakers

and every time it happened, I was like, whoa, I know I put it on my TV so that we could listen to it louder. And I was like, oh my god, oh my god, ew, ew, like, no thank you. It's so upsetting. It was real rough. And you could tell he's trying to do the buddy holly thing, and I'm like, no, no sir. Uh-oh.

Nobody has. You're not talented. You're just not talented, sir. No. I also loved when you were like, you're from Missouri. Like, why are you talking about little Yankee girl? You're not like European. Like, what is wrong with you?

I can't handle this. So why should people go listen to that series in particular? What is it about Tony and Susan Alamo? Honestly, because it really encompasses so many crimes without these people get away with. It encompasses the taking of money from people. It's a cult. It's mind control. It's I mean, not that we really want to hear about this. It's abusive children. It's Tuesday. Yeah, it's got that. There's there's a Clinton in it calling him Roy Orbison on speed. There that's enough to go listen like a meeting. Yeah, guys, that's all you need to know.

So Rachel, thanks for coming on. That's it. No, I agree that this it truly is like it's like a gumbo of like that stuff. It's just a moldy slimy gumbo. Like a casserole of shit. Can we play that? Can we play that clip really quick so you guys can react to it?

Yes. Oh my god, yes. Do you want to pull it up on your phone? So it's so horrifying. But the way, okay, now I want it, I want it because I know you've heard it before. I want to pinpoint his last, yeah, it's the end. Oh. Ready? It was this very Yankee girl. Oh no. I want to pinpoint his last yeah

It was a very Yankee girl. Oh, no, it was a guy so hyped under my promotion Because I don't my ideas into their heads to the point to where they wanted it But I eat food people want to eat the same kind of food. I eat because I make it look delicious. No, you do not. Is there a fat? Yes. Yes. Sir! Sir?

Yes, a fat? Yes. Yes. He's like down with the sickness. Yes. Like, why, Tony? I know I want to watch you eat food. Like, can you not eat food?

I make it look delicious. He could be eating like my favorite food and I would never eat it again. He could be like going down on some sushi and I'd be like, well, I have to leave. Yep, I have to leave. I'm not sure you've ever sent me from a some too long. It was and as soon as it came out of my mouth,

I was like, that is not what I meant, but that is my favorite food. I was like, well, damn. It was a poor choice of words. No, that is not what I meant, but that is my favorite food. I was like, well, damn, it was a poor choice of words. No, that left, yeah. It was so like threatening, that was real threatening. I would have been, it would be like, spell broken, I think. I'm like, exactly like, I can't even imagine being in that audience

and being like, yeah? Then you just, yeah. Because you can hear that they were all like, yeah. And he's just like, yeah, I'll can hear that they were all like, yeah. And he's just like, you're all like Sam would feel it. And they're like, okay. Like, do you realize what we're talking about, buddy? It's not anything to get that excited about.

We're just gonna get out of here. She's like, everything is exciting. It's just peanut butter sandwich. I don't, I'm really chill. Oh man. I hate that so much. So nasty. I hate it.

So I feel like just to wrap this whole thing up, we got to keep it weird at the end. So out of all the episodes that you've done excluding the Tony and Susan Alamo. Or Alamo. Alamo one. It's annoying because everyone wants to say Alamo. Yes, I do.

It's spelled like we're number the Alamo. It is. And I'm like the queen of mispronunciation. So, you know, but out of all the cases, excluding that one, which one do you think keeps it the most weird? That you can't say. I would say probably Hosanna Church, because it involves like,

I know there's a whole like Satanic panic thing that wasn't real. I'm pretty sure this was kind of a real example of Satanic ritual abuse. I even interviewed a guy that was a kid in the town at that time, and he told me real stories of like, no, this was really happening. Oh, my God.

That's nuts. That's awesome. I think that one, or in terms of like, like, more of a funny televangelist, Robert Tilton keeps it so weird. Oh, yeah. When he speaks in tongues, it's like watching the lion kick.

It's like say no more. It taps you to another galaxy. It just lifts you up. I love it. It actually makes me happy. If I wasn't a bad mood, I could just want to rob myself and go, and just be like, this guy.

He'll be the guy. It's not as bad as I thought. He'll be like, you know what, this guy exists. My day would be so much worse. Everything's fine. I love it. Well, tell us where we can find you. Yeah.

Well, okay, so Seven Deadly Sinners podcast is the name on Instagram, or you can follow me personally, Rachel, R-A-C-H-A-E-L-N, O'Brien, and then you can listen to Seven Deadly Sinners on all the podcast apps. I'm gonna have to be way on high. Yeah.

And go do it because Rachel is part of the Morbin Network family. And we love her. So happy to be a part of it. We're so happy. I love like everyone on our group text. Right? So freaking funny.

And it really is just a weird little family. I love it. It's so annoying. I know we have a group text with all the people, all the network shows, all of us. And we all just randomly will send each other like weird shit, like TikTok sometimes, or like all that stuff.

A video I'm drunk, Kathy Hilton. Okay, I wanted to say it, but I was like, is that a lie? That was fine. That made my 2020, like I love you for that. We were all dying over that. So funny. Oh my goodness.

So guys, I was going to win. I was going to win. It was so good. It was better than I imagined it would be, too. I was like, what am I going to listen to? And then when I listened to it, I was like, yeah, caffeine. That just exceeded what I wanted.

So guys, make sure you go listen to Rachel O'Brien's Seven Deadly Sinners. You can find it anywhere. And we are going to have, there's And so guys, make sure you go listen to Rachel O'Brien's seven deadly sinners. You can find it anywhere. And we are going to have, there's going to be a little teaser of the Tony and Susan Olimo episode after this. So you can get a little taste. And then it's because you're going to love it.

And you know, Tony makes you want to eat whatever he's eating. Delicious. Once you got that little taste, you can head on over to Rachel's food. And you can go eat the whole thing with him and hear him say, yeah! I was gonna say, can we literally just end this episode with a clip of him going, yeah!

Yeah! Yeah! So go check it out, guys, and thank you so much, Rachel. He was a preacher who couldn't resist temptation. The priest is accused of killing sister Margaret Ann, Paul, and the chapel. The strongest of cases against a powerful preacher in a town of true believers. The legal age for marriage is at puberty.

I'm not married to any teenage girls. You don't want to be I'm 74 years old. I don't remember reading that in the Bible, sir. You don't know anything about the Bible. And he kept stabbing and smiling. 410 wounds scars upon scars. You're listening to seven deadly Susan Alamo died on April 8, 1982, at the age of 56. Her followers were so guilt-ridden, felt so accountable that one young girl, later as an adult in the Ministry of Evil Documentary, would remember the moment she found out Susan

had passed like this. I remember the night we got the message prayed for Susie. And so I tried to stay up all night praying. But I had already been up to night before praying. We were about three o'clock in the morning, I fell asleep. I woke up and they told us Susie died. And I remember the guilt I felt. I was crying. Oh my God, when Susie needed me the most, I sleep being."

The brains behind the cult was gone. And what Tony would become was even worse than anyone could have imagined. The hell brought upon the foundation in Tony's next move was a Christian cult level up we haven't seen in any season of Seventh Deadly Sinners yet. He tries to resurrect the dead. Oh, you thought this false prophecy would end when their leader passed to the Great Beyond? Oh no, folks. This was Susan's curtain call, and Tony wasn't going to lead the faithful

solo while her body was still fresh. Opportunity knocks my friends. Susan had a hold on their Christian cattle. She knew how to leave their followers in a fear of God paralysis. But with her message possessed its grasp even from the grave? Tony wasn't willing to find out. He was worried the congregation might not follow him. He needed a solution. He needed a con.

I'm praying that God will heal her, raise her from the dead, so that it will show the power of the Almighty God. The plan was underway. He's not burying Susie. He and his followers will resurrect her from the dead. He decided to place Susen's body in an open casket in the spec house of his Arkansas mansion. A large room the followers could access.

Then he behaved like he was Susie's housebroken pet, who was now heartbroken, scared, and power-hungry. That spotlight had been shining a bit too bright on Suzie all this time, and he would have you know he was born for the spotlight, just not with the name for it. So he ordered prayer trains to Suzie's casket, two hour shifts, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Followers would surround Susan Alamos decaying body, praying. They worshipped her as she wrought away, hoping their savior would sit up and release them from Tony's pledge. I would have to imagine this was the edge for some of the Alamo followers.

This woman is dead. We can smell her rotting flesh, and this bozo Tony says, we will be condemned to hell if we don't figure out some witchcraft to bring this woman back from the dead. Because all this praying ain't taken that smell away. But in many cases, I was wrong. After Susan died, many followers were desperately begging God to please not take Tony from them, too. They needed him.

Then someone, Sassuzi Breathe. The rumor spread like wildfire. Was it just a follower hallucinating from sleep deprivation or sheer emotional exhaustion? Or did Rigamortis finally set in and someone saw a muscle sees up? Whatever the cause, the rumor turned into a living, breathing prophecy and ignited this shred of hope Tony needed to keep his con going. He claimed he was receiving messages from Susie in the afterlife, and the washed up music promoter was help bent on addressing the media

for a new type of eternal gig. And he kept that gig up much longer than I realized you could keep a dead body from burial. And I know the very specific stench of death. Tragically, I had a neighbor die in a former apartment I lived in in Los Angeles, but no one knew they had passed away. And I remember within the week of their death, I smelled a smell so distinct in the hallway that I'll never forget it. It wasn't until I watched the coroners bring this person out that I realized what that smell was. And guys, that was just a week. Imagine a year.

and members of the calls are still praying for her resurrection. Yes, you heard that correctly. Brainwashed members sat with Susan's body for over a year. And when she didn't resurrect, Tony screamed. It was their fault. But one brave soul finally pleaded to Tony that her flesh was rotting. This was not okay. Something had to be done. So Tony's response was to place her in a crypt

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