Morbid - Morbid Network presents: A chat with Tyler Hyde & Johnny Cann from That's Spooky (Special Episode Sneak Peek!)

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

Hey weirdos! We want to allow you to get to know our little family here on Morbid Network, so we decided to start a special interview series where we chat with the hosts of these handpicked shows and let you get to know why we love their guts! With these special episodes, you also get a sneak preview of their latest episode to really wet your whistle to dive into a new pod. Yes, that was a disgusting sentence but that's who we are. Today, we chat with beautiful, hilarious and spicy Tyler Hyde and Johnny Cann from That's Spooky. If Tyler and Johnny's personalities don't immediately make you fall for them, their ability to tell a story with compassion, spice and lighthearted humor in all the right places  will have you swooning in seconds. We chatted with these about their relationship, their favorite paranormal happenings and how That's Spooky came to be. Come on it, friends. The water is fabulous. LINK TO FULL EPISODE: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6W9kRxlN3cBLNnka5w114d?si=MFYAx0PBTXSt94K77NXeiQ Follow Tyler & Johnny and That's Spooky! Instagram: @Thatsspookypod Twitter: @Thatsspookypod Tyler Instagram: @tee_tys Tyler Twitter: @tee_tys Johnny Instagram: @pansytwist Johnny twitter:@JohnnyCann See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Johnny and I'm Tyler and this is morbid and that's spooky. Woohoo! Yay! We have Johnny and Tyler from that spooky on today. We're gonna do a little Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, immediately thought of that. I love that. Let me loosen my girdle. Break out that fan real quick. Yes. Just thwart it out. Put my stockings up to my garden. The only way to begin this episode. Yeah. How are you guys?

We're good for you. Thanks for having us today. We're so excited. Thank you for coming. This is so exciting because we were just saying the last time that we've done this together is when we did our invisible man episode, which was like last year in the middle of the panini. Yes.

The panorama. It was in the middle of Miss Rona. Oh, yeah. Back when Patricia just started. Yeah. Patricia, I love you. When we were just yelling about Lee Wan-L. Yes.

Lee Wan-L. Yes. Oh, we're still yelling about Lee Wan-L. Will forever yell about Lee Wan-L. Forever in always Lee Wan-L. Will forever yell about Lee Wan-L. Forever in always Lee Wan-L. Have you gotten his attention yet? That's the question. Has Lee Wan-L answered the call?

He has not answered the call. But here we are staying persistent. We will. And persistence is key. I'm going to keep it going. What do they say the squeaky wheel gets the grease? Yes. What do the squeaky wheel gets the Lee? Yes. Come yeah. So what did this squeaky wheel get the Lee? Yeah.

Come on wheels, I'll assemble. I assemble. So today we're just going to do in case you guys have been following these little episodes that we've been doing with our pod family, our morbid network family. We just want you guys to get to know Johnny and Tyler, get to know that spooky, so you can say, wow, why haven't I been listening to that? And then you can run right over to their feed and start listening to your heart's desire.

And fall in love. Straight up when I found you guys, I found you guys something like a hundred or so episodes in and I was like, how do I not? How did I not know this existed? We were just under the covers the whole time, you know what, the monster under the bed. Just hiding. Yeah, exactly. I guess just under the covers the whole time. You know what? The monster under the bed. Just hiding.

Yeah, exactly. I guess so. That's the thing. And I remember when you brought it up to me too. I was like, oh, I got to listen to it. It was the Blackburn Colt episode. Yep. Yeah, Johnny did that story.

That was so good. Yeah, it's funny because we were aware of each other and actually our listeners had started around the time that we got connected. They had started saying to us, like, oh, do you listen to morbid? Like, there must have been something in the universe. And then all of a sudden, one day we woke up

and I was like, what is happening with our listens? People are listening. And yeah, suddenly people started to roll in, and they were like, coming from morbid. And yeah, we, it became a whole new case that we just had to investigate. I love that. I love that. I love that.

I feel like what's happening. I love when that'll happen. When we'll suddenly look at our listens and we're like, what's going on? Who said something? Did someone say something? Oh, took the cookie from the cookie bar. Exactly. But let's talk about your early days.

Sure. So we got to start out. First of all, the name that spooky to me is the perfect podcast name, iconic. Thank you. It's just perfect. How did you, where did it come from? How did you come to name?

Because I know that naming a podcast is no easy task. Oh yeah, it's precious. For us, it really kind of came just from polling names out of the air one night. I originally had the idea to do the podcast, out of the air one night. I originally had the idea to do the podcast, you know, out of the two of us. And it was essentially just one night lying in bed, being like, what would you call a podcast that is equal parts scary and queer and kind of intersectional? And the idea that we've always had with the show is that we wanted to build our pink furry colosseum upon the pillars of humanity, horror, and humor.

So I want to live there. I do live there in my mind. We all want to live there. Angelina is the landlord. It's wonderful. I ran into her last week. Oh my god, I was actually, I really took that for a very,

I'm very impressed people. The moment you start talking about Angela. I'm very convincing. But the thing is, I was just kind of going, what embodies all of that? And the word spooky kept coming to mind. Because we wanted something that was a little bit scary, but also can't be.

Can be is kind of the thing because terrifying is a word that could describe the podcast or scary is a word that could describe the podcast. But spooky, it's just a fun word because it's got that double O in it. You know what I mean? It's spooky. Yes. Oh, you want to get into the letters. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, it's got that hard K comedy sound that just makes them scream. Let's get an etymology of that, mama. No. The cuck. Yeah. Yeah, it's got a good to it. It's so true though, because spooky, first of all, just encompasses so many things, so it doesn't like box you into one thing. Because that's what we were concerned with with

morbid. We were like, we want to like box ourselves into only one kind of thing. We want to be able to like cover a lot of different things. Right. We love true crime, but we want to get into paranormal. And then spooky does that same thing. And it also adds like spooky. Like you can say like, you know, things that are not super scary are like, that's spooky over there. It's so fun. Yeah, like it totally encompasses both sides.

The thing is, we always kind of frame it as like, we are your gay best friends who are skipping through a haunted forest with you. Like we'll take you to hell, we'll drop you off at the mall, everything will be okay. We'll talk about some of the scariest things that you'll encounter in life, because life throws that at you. You know, life gets real spooky.

We always say on the show, some of the spookiest things that happen in this world are the things that human beings do to each other in the daylight. Yeah. So true. But I think something that we try to prioritize in telling the stories on our show is bringing levity in the right places. So we try to insert humor. in telling the stories on our show is bringing levity in the right places.

So we try to insert humor, you know, sometimes it's not until the very end or the very beginning of a story, you know, like we can't really get into it in the middle, but we always try to find that little pocket to kind of have that experience because it rounds it out and it also makes it a little bit more palatable.

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Because it's true. GALO's humor is a thing. And especially like me work, like I work in the death industry. And it's like a necessary thing when you are constantly dealing with like really heavy, heavy,

heavy thing. Yes, of course. You're not, you never want to bring it to the victim or to the actual event itself. But when you can sprinkle it in around the edges, it just makes it something you can take with a glass of milk. That's a thing. I agree with what we do to like Scooby-Doo or the Adam's family. Scooby-Doo in the respect, that's like, we have our kitschy fun, it gets scary, but we pull the mask off at the end and we have that moment. Or like, we love the Adam's family in this household because we were talking last night, and it's like if you really looked at the given circumstances of like Adams family values,

like they're dropping a baby off our roof, like there's some horrible shit that they're doing to each other. But the packaging is this kind of creepy and kooky mysterious and spooky altogether ookie Adams family vibe. That's exactly. Just gives it a different feeling and a different vibe

and you know that there's a heart in it as well. That kind of acts as a through line. And I think that's kind of what we do with our show. Because Tyler and I do really like each other. Like we're a couple that spend together for 10 years. So it just kind of works. See, and that you just went right into the perfect next question. I was just going to say that.

That was perfect. I was going to say, because some people for anybody who doesn't know what how do you guys know each other. Oh we're so gay. It's so gay. It's so good. Wait. You are? Yeah. Spoiler alert. What? Yeah. I know that you always like to ask before the conversation starts, whether someone's, you know, or not. I just flipped my wrist at the camera. You can't see that. I do that all the time. I was just going to say I wish this was a visual. I just flipped my wrist at the camera. You can't see that. I do that all the time. I was just gonna say I wish this was a visual.

Me. I feel like the voice, you know, really explaining, you know. It does, you know. Yeah, my apologies for not bringing that up, but that's the thing. We are a couple that's been together for almost 10 years. Almost 10 years. Yeah.

I love love love. Oh my God, 10 years really? Yeah, do you believe in the gay world? That is a lifetime and awesome. Well, yeah, that's what I was just going to point out because we had drew a band together for three years and I thought that was wild for the games. Mm-hmm. But I bet you started picking at the wallpaper two weeks in because we sure did. I said I love you. Like I think on our love story, I said that we said it like a month in, but it was a little more like two and a half weeks.

Oh, here's the thing. We had like always joked early on. We're like, oh yeah, you know, people say that the gayes move fast. And basically what happened with us is we got together over a summer, came back into the new semester of school and the roommate that I started the new school year with. Essentially, the long and short of it is that they lost the apartment and I wasn't on the lease yet. So I just ended up having to move in with Tyler because I was like, well, I'm, you know,

going up to his place all the time. So it just makes sense. So we literally moved in together after three months, two months ish. Oh my God. I can't. Yeah, but then you were like, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It's just how it works. Like we were trying to buck the stereotype and Listen if the universe works you together, there's a reason you can't fight against the universe. The universe gathered me like a cheap ponytail John on our love story was like yeah, like months into a stating. I decided to say I love you. It Elena said whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down. And that's when we all saw how straight Elena really is. That's right. It was like whoa. The palm pilot comes out and just starts clicking

like the style, she's like no, no, no, no, no, we're not there yet. He really hung in there though. I know, he's truly the best. I love that three months and you were like too soon. I was like two weeks and like is it too soon. I was like two weeks and like, is it too soon if I tell you that I love you? Right, song of dance numbers.

Yeah, you've got the whole cafeteria dancing behind me. It's screened too essentially. Yeah, that's literally what I was thinking. We got it. And Alaina's just off on the outside, like Lori met Calf just writing stuff into a notebook with a little bit of a white suit and like what's up? What's up?

Oh hanging out with Mickey. She's got low remorse calf eyes. Yeah I'm gonna tell that all the time So see that makes sense why you have such good chemistry. Yeah, you guys work really well together. Because you can tell that you just like know each other. Like you know how each other reacts to things, you know what will get the reaction out of the other one, you know how to like play off of each other. Yeah, it's just like so easy to listen to when people are like that.

And I feel like it's rare. You have a banter. Yeah. Thank you. And we respect each other at the core of it. So we're able to kind of go there with our joking and understand where to leave it. You know, not to get all stereotypical relationshipy,

but like we're the kind of couple that don't go to bed angry. No, I love that. I think that's the most important thing. Wait, I'm the same way. I can't. Oh yeah, and we have listeners who are like, you two get along so well, it's like you never fight.

And it's like, oh no, no, no, no, no, we just turn the mic off. Yeah, we edit that part out. Yeah. But that's why it's healthy. But fight and it's like oh no, no, no, no, we just turn the mic soft That's why it's healthy. We resolve Yeah, yeah, right you you argue it out you discuss it. That's what it's all about right Exactly because we always say the same thing will never put our heads down on the pillow at night mad or like leave the house Yeah, anything ever. No, it's just not worth it. No, I can always be resolved You know, I love that love love love love love love love so much. I love love love and I love podcasting

and I just love mixing them together. I love podcasting. And I love spooky gay bullshit. Oh my god. Well, I mean, hey, that's our brand. We didn't even mean for that to happen. That was just one of the things that we ended up spouting out.

And then we were like, why don't we call the intro to every episode, spooky gay bullshit? It's perfect. It's so organic. I love it. And it gives us a chance to kind of get, like, youooky Gay Bullshit. It's perfect. It's so organic. I love it. Yeah, well, and it gives us a chance to kind of get like, you know, queer news out of the way. Let's just talk about spooky stuff or stuff that's just making us go like, oh, isn't like balloon boy,

you know, just some bullshit news. Yeah. Yeah. Just stuff that you're like, can I please just talk about this first again? You can all listen to this. Yeah, like in our newest episode, we just talked about a guy who made a guitar out of the ribcage and spine of his uncle. Yeah, and then he played black metal on it in honor of his uncle who introduced him to metal. Like, isn't that a great? It's so amazing.

I mean, wild. Great isn't even the wild. That's mind-boggling. Like, how do you, wow, that's awesome. There was like a heavy metal knitting competition that happened in the last few years. Like a lot of people get killed by chickens and you don't even know.

Like there's a lot of spooky gay bullshit that happens in the world. Yeah, chickens are awesome. Oh, well, I hate chickens. That's just a thing about that. I have one of my like very like deep rooted fears and I'm not joking at all. Like everybody get the smiles off your face

and this is so serious. I hate chickens. Really? I am so afraid. I hate chicken. Really? I am so afraid. And I would like to point out, I don't know if you know Juni B. Jones. No.

But she said that a chicken could pack your head to an up. When I read that book in like third grade and I've never been the same. It could have if it wanted to. Have you ever heard of the high gate chicken ghost? Should I or should I not hear about that? It's actually OK. It's very short, but it was a ghost that I think came from

Francis B. Bacon, Francis B. Bacon. Yeah, Francis B. Bacon. Anyway, it is now. Yeah, it's basically the person who invented refrigerators more or less because he took a chicken, murdered it, put the corpse of the chicken in a snow bank to see if it would preserve it. And then he died a few days later.

And yeah, he did later. And he did. Yeah, he did. And this headless plucked frozen chicken haunts high gate in England. Yeah, it terrorizes people. Yeah, and you know where I'll never go there. And the thing is too, it just comes in like pure chaotic evil. It just like drops from nowhere

and starts running around squawking. But it's a headless chicken, but it's headless Yeah, and it's frozen and it's plucked. It's basically like the chicken in the grocery store coming to lie I think that's wild most chickens are that chaotic. I would love that course never trust a chicken Oh my god I need to go there and just sit down with like some popcorn and be like let's do that I hope you have a lot of fun. It's been covered on the podcast. Before I will say, you think chickens are bad. We recently talked about some gay penguins

in the Netherlands. This, oh no, but listen to this. There was this couple of gay penguins who stole an egg from a lesbian penguin couple that was at their zoo. And then tried to raise it as their own, but it wouldn't work. So these shady penguins,

that should be in like page six for penguins. It essentially is. It's shady. And we've been boosting it. I love that so much. Yeah, the world means to you. That's amazing. That's so good. The world does need to know. Wow. Penguins are shady too. But I love that the little baby penguin was like, no, no, no, no, you're not my dad. Not my dad. Well, no, they had to retrieve the egg because it wouldn't have hatched with those shady penguins. They had to give it back to the couple that originally had it.

Oh my God. Yeah, do you have to intervene? I was just gonna say, I imagine intervening in like in that situation. Having to walk up to the gay penguins and being like, I'm sorry, sir. We gotta split you up. This is not your egg.

You have to fill out some paperwork. You need to go through the proper channel. Yeah, Penguin Family Services says, Nene. What, and this is the thing, there have been very successful adoptions of eggs by gay penguin couples, but this was just not it. This was thievery, pure thievery, upper echelon cat burglar.

That was thievery. That's right. Literally. This was the Lindbergh baby. Absolutely. The Lindbergh penguin. There we have it. Fill out the paper.

Please, come on. Just do it. Wow. That's something I mean, come on. Just do it. Wow. That's something I did not know, and I'm really glad I know. Well, that's the, and this is why we do a spooky gay bullshit at the beginning of every episode. Because it's like 10 minutes of that, then we address any mistakes from the previous episode.

We call it oopsie poopsees, housekeeping, anything like that. That's my favorite. That's my favorite. And then we get into two spooky stories every week that come from the world's a true crime, paranormal, cult, strange phenomenon, anything like that. Yes.

And if that doesn't convince you to listen, that you know, you're gonna get like that 10 minutes of like what we just heard. Right. The stories. I mean, those are just two little stories that have been like it. Hello, but that's what we can get into right now.

Well, and also, so I need to know, do you have a favorite ghost or like paranormal story? Both of you? Okay, so like not true crimes straight up like paranormal ghost. Yeah, we'll go paranormal. Yeah, I mean, that's very much a good sun situation because I feel like that answer changes on the regular. Oh, yeah, but currently right now I've been really intrigued with the story of Christopher Case. I don't know if you've ever heard of him before, but he was a music producer that lived in Seattle

in the 90s, like late 80s, early 90s. He went on a business trip to San Francisco, met a witch at a bar who cursed him. And then seven days later, he dies. Shot that nobody has ever been able to explain it. Like, he went back home to Seattle from San Francisco. Over the week, paranormal activity just started happening in his apartment, which had never happened before.

Shadow figures, music, all of this kind of stuff. And when the police came to his apartment, he was found dead in the bathtub, completely unexplainable. Can't be explained to this day. Oh my God, it's terrifying. I got, you know those chills terrifying. That go through your body and they go,

wow, in your body, you know what I mean? Yeah. I just got that. They like radiate. Wow. Wow. That's what they do. If they made a sound.

That's nuts. I wonder if he offended her in some way. Well, that's it. I feel so he must have according to him she wanted to you know do the business but he didn't want to do the business he rejected listen honey if a witch wants to do the business with you you heard it first I mean just go ahead and do it explore your options with a witch yeah absolutely either way you're fucked oh that's a good one yeah and we talked about that one on episode 118 of the book yeah that was really good I need to like go back and listen to that wow

oh yeah I love it and for me I would say that probably my favorite that I've covered recently and again it changes all the time it would have to be Tom Taylor's cabin. So I covered this on episode 95. Okay, so you remember this one. Yes, I do remember this He is a author of comic books and other things like graphic novels literature, whatever But he essentially went out on little writers vacation or retreat out in the Australian wilderness in this little cabin and a Whole bunch of weird stuff starts happening that he live tweets. And stuff includes like hearing noises outside the cabin and then suddenly there's somebody out there shining a light at him from the darkness. A mysterious package shows up that he doesn't want to open. Then somebody comes in to check the cable, but he's just rooting around in this room. There's stuff

happening from all angles. He documents it all on Twitter, like Dear David's style. Oh, yes. Yeah. It's a little bit more believable. This hasn't been an option for a movie yet, so I'm a little bit more excited to talk about Tom Taylor. I get that. But the thing is, he has never really commented on it since. He's never come out and said that it was a hoax or anything, but it's a really compelling story. Yeah, well, and the thing is, basically, the idea is that there was a couple that owned this Airbnb that he was staying at that had a child that died, and the ghost of the child is haunting the home, but then he's also getting some like scratching

on the rooftop and stuff like that when he's trying to sleep, but again, it's all on a Twitter thread. And this is what I love about a lot of these new stories that have been coming out, because like another one of my favorites was like Don Paramo. It was something that we covered in episode 100, Taco Spells, where essentially this guy was live tweeting, a haunting that he was experiencing in a new apartment. And at one point he goes on live on Periscope and he crosses by his bed. There's no one in his bed, but then he crosses by a second time after he shows something in his room.

And there is a black form of a human being lying in his bed And he had been hearing okay my body went wow and he had been hearing voices in the night like that Wake him up like you know that experience where you wake up thinking that somebody is like said something or you've heard breathing He was having that lying in the bed and then this stuff was popping up on live streams where there was nobody else in the home with him And the people that were watching the stream are just like dawn are you seeing this so and then this stuff was popping up on live streams where there was nobody else in the home with them. And the people that were watching the stream are just like, don, are you seeing this? So it's absolutely wild.

And again, it plays out all on social media. And this is kind of what I love because- I'm so glad people do. There are these new stories that are popping up. And Twitter is kind of like, in TikTok really, they're kind of like how we're transmitting folklore these days. And it's bad.

But it's like a real time. Yeah, and that's the thing how we're transmitting folklore these days. And yeah, but it's like a real time. Yeah. And that's the thing. Like we've covered a TikTok haunting as well. Like I won't go into like a third right now, but if you want to fall down the rabbit hole, like there's a ton of stuff that we've started to cover on the show recently that has to do with these kind of digital age hauntings that play out and are documented on social media. And that to me just brings it to this new level where it's so relatable,

and it really gets the hairs on the back of my neck standing up. Oh, yeah. I have goosebumps all over right now. Yeah, so scary. Because when you can start bringing like video and pictures into it and like live streams of things happening where you're like, oh, yeah, see, that's what makes me want to go off the grid. Well, and then there's this whole idea of like this Greek chorus of commenters that are seen stuff in the videos and then responding. So like what Tom Taylor this happens to where he'll tweet a photo and then after a day people are like, hey, did you see this in the corner

and they're zooming in and sleuthing the whole thing? And he's like, no. Yeah, it's just so interesting because it becomes this kind of dialectic ghost story in a way. And it's like a paranormal investigation in real time. Absolutely. Exactly. And it gets everyday people involved. Yeah. Well, that's a thing.

I remember teaching a theater design workshop in 2018 or 17 or something like that, but it was when dear David was happening. And I remember hearing these like 16 year olds whispering on break, being like, have you heard about Dear David? Did you see the recent tweet all this? Like just going into the story and like, it's just brilliant how everybody knew exactly what they were talking about. Oh, 100%.

And that one went on for a long time. It did. Yeah, there was like YouTube challenges. Yeah. Oh, it's like damn. It got a little wild. It got a little wild. Yeah, we covered it on an early episode. I think episode 13, a lot of people say it's like damn, it got a little wild. It got a little wild. Yeah, we covered it on an early episode,

I think episode 13. A lot of people say it's our scariest episode. I think it has more to do with the audio quality. The audio quality is good. It's, like, it's, yeah, like it's fine, but you know, like everyone goes on that arc as podcasters. Everyone goes on that journey. We all face the world of stuff, yeah.

But dear David hits hard. But yeah, it just goes on a little bit too long and then people start to think that he was possessed by dear David at the end and that he was like tweeting as him. And like, I just, I can get on with that. Yeah, that's when I backed up. Yeah. Because it's true.

The story itself was so scary, so well crafted at first. And so well, I was like, oh, even if this is fake, I'm like, this is spooky. I'm like, getting the chills just reading it. Like in the thought of like the story behind it. It's like a little kid who like died in this horrific way and like it's now haunting. And then as soon as it just it's something you just you step a little too far. Yeah. See that's like there's so many great things about social media like we just had like a tower

passing on like the folklore now. But then it's like we're also ruining it at the same time. The moment that I see a little girl in a white dress with long black hair, or I hear that in a ghost story, I'm out, you know? I eat right out of it. Oh yeah. Oh, like that doesn't exist. You gotta eat that Samaritan organ imagery

right at the window. Eat it to the next TikTok. Yeah, I'm out. I'm out. I'm a head out. I'm a head out. So what, so now we're coming to the end here. So what is an upcoming episode that you have coming up that you are very excited about that you can't wait for

people to listen to? Okay, well, I would say that it's the episode that we have just dropped. I personally covered the story of Teresita Bazaar on it, which is known as the Voice From the Grave case. I won't fully give it away. Yeah, there was a bad TV movie called Voice from the Grave made about it. And it's because there was actually a quote from the trial where the judge was being questioned on whether or not he would accept a voice from the grave

as part of the testimony. Because essentially what happened was Teresita Baza was found murdered in her apartment and a few weeks after her murder, she had a coworker at the hospital that she worked out in Chicago who started going into trances speaking as Teresita Baza in her sleep to her husband

who didn't know anything about the case. And basically said, I'm Teresita Baza. I know who killed me. It was a man named Blank and basically gives him all of the details that he needs to be able to find her killer over multiple chances and ultimately it's what solves the case. Oh my god. Oh my god. The fuck. Holy shit. Oh my goodness. I can't. I'm literally as soon as this is over. Play. Oh yeah. Well and that's the second story. That's my story. Tyler

starts it off. Yeah. So the story that I covered on that episode was actually the murder of a woman named Ruthie Mae McCoy, and this was a murder that happened in Chicago in one of the Chicago projects, and it was a under-reported murder, but it ended up influencing a lot of the narrative in the 1992 Candyman movie. Oh, yes. This sounded familiar. Yeah. I found out about this murder through my interest in wanting to find out more about the Candyman lore that urban legend, because I grew up as a kid, knowing about Candyman before I knew about the movie, before I knew about the source of material.

And that research led me to this moment in True Crime, which is a really heartbreaking story to be completely honest, but I think a really important story to share, and then again to see how that ties into the story, and the movie of the Candyman, because Candyman is very racially charged, it deals with a lot of systemic racism, not necessarily in the best way. The new movie should be able to do that very well,

the original didn't, but this story, it's just really heart breaking. But again, sometimes I'm sure you get it to when you're researching something, you go into a research project, going in one direction, and then it takes you in a completely different direction to a place you didn't expect to go. Absolutely. That's my favorite thing when that happens. It's like a whirlwind. I love that.

And the murder of Ruthie, I have to say, is pretty terrifying because it really reflects some of the stuff that happens in Candy Man. Like, I don't know. Am I giving it away? No, you're not giving it away. Basically, her murderers were able to get into her apartment by crawling through her bathroom mirror. And that is where the crew of Candy Man

attacking you in the mirror comes from. Like seeing some of this. Oh, all right. I'm so uncomfortable. Alaina, it's the middle of the afternoon. I hope you don't have plans because you're not leaving until you're at home. That's beyond terrifying.

Holy crawling through a mirror. Well, and it kind of speaks to the stuff that we do on the show. It's like, you know, there's a lot of true crime out there that we could cover, but honestly, there's a lot that we do on the show. It's like, you know, there's a lot of true crime out there that we could cover, but honestly, there's a lot that we decide not to touch. Just because, you know, there are some people that, yeah, specifically cover true crime

in a very, you know, conscious, focused way. But for us, we really focus on stuff that makes you go, ooh, that's spooky. Yeah, right. Exactly. And it's spooky because that could happen and it did. And it's like, oh, my biggest fear is somebody like being in the vents. Like last night, I told you guys I was sleeping in the bathroom because my kittens were needed to be in the bathroom.

And I kept hearing this like tapping and it was definitely just the heat, but I was like, someone's in that vent. I'm gonna die. This is how I die. There's someone in that vent. You're like, either somebody's in the vent or it's panty-wise. Right. In either way, I'm not here. Either way, I'm gonna die. It's not a good situation.

One way or the other. And I can't say no to a red balloon, so I'm fucked. I'm so excited to listen. I'm so excited to listen to this, man. I know. That's spooky. That's so spooky. All right.

Well, one last question to wrap this whole thing up. So not this episode, but who have you covered in the past that you feel kept it the most weird? Oh my god. Okay. On episode 99, I covered the story of the Halifax Sleep Watcher. Yes. And that was truly terrifying because this happened in Halifax Nova Scotia. We're originally from Nova Scotia. We're up here in Canada. And the sleep watcher attacks were happening while we were university students living in Halifax. Were they real? Yeah. watch her attacks were happening while we were university students living in Halifax.

Where they were. Yeah, they were, yeah. And they weren't solved until many years later, but this guy is a total fucking creep. It's terrifying. Did you hear about this story? Yeah, I think I heard about it on my favorite murder, actually. Oh, I was so scared. Damn. I think so. I've definitely heard it.

Yeah, well, that's the thing. We were living in Halifax at the time and it was very uncomfortable because that's the thing. Like, we lived with some women and, you know, would hang out with like over the years. And when you'd be at their house, like, there was always that thing in the back of your head where you were like, am I gonna wake up in the middle of the night and so there's going to be some asshole like creeping out of a door. And he really started to escalate over time. Like people started off waking up to this person outside their window.

And then it started to turn into waking up to a scarf being dangled over your face. And you think it's your boyfriend, but it's not. It was very like golden state killer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any killing the escalation was scary. Yeah. It didn't escalate that far. Thank God, but it definitely could have. Yeah. Yeah. Any killing. The escalation was scary. Yeah. It didn't escalate that far. Thank God, but it definitely could have. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That yeah, he definitely

kept it the most weird. Oh, yeah. Well, I can take it in a slightly more kitschy direction. This is a little bit weird, but on episode 89, I actually covered the story of Cynthia the mannequin, who was a mannequin created by Lester Gabba, an American designer, who essentially became part of New York's high society in the 1930s, like the mannequin. Like she was getting sent couture, she was being invited to openings, she was being invited to parties, just a mannequin,

and people were like schmoozing with her and holding up the engine. Yeah, like she was being treated better than I have ever been in my life. And she was Sonia Morgan before Sonia Morgan. So America. Yeah, and then the thing is like after the war and stuff like that,

he tried to turn her into an animatronic and stuff like that. And it got really kind of uncanny and just too far. Coalition away, but I would say that or a Carl Tansler. And, you know, oh my God, say no more. Episode 25, we'll just say that. X-ray-diva. X-ray-diva. A whole different man again story.

I'm not the other thing, the names. Yeah, you can say a little different. Yeah, yeah. Well, guys, I mean, now you can see like a little snippet of this episode right after this. So you can get your taste buds wet a little bit. And then you have like, I think we've talked about eight different episodes probably. Now you have a lot of vinging to do, guys.

We gave you a lot of homework. Yeah, yeah. We can all work as we like to call it. Yes, exactly. All right, so where can we find you guys plug anything you'd like to plug? Okay, well, you can find the podcast on Twitter and Instagram at that spooky pod.

And more importantly, you can find us on all podcast platforms as that's spooky. Don't forget the apostrophe in there. And we release new episodes every Wednesday. Yeah, you can find me on Instagram at T-Ties. That's T-E-E-E underscore T-Y-S. Yeah, and you can find me on Instagram at pansy twist. That's pansy like the flower and twists like the dance. And I want to point out before we end

this whole thing, not only are you two like super talented podcasters, Tyler is an amazing artist. And Johnny is an amazing like the photography work that you do in the way you design like every photograph that's on your Instagram. You guys are so talented. Thank you. It's like every episode has its own little design that like I get excited to see every time. Yes. It's I'm telling you and even Johnny's like personal Instagram is a work of fucking art. Yes. Well, yeah, Tyler's an illustrator and I do like projection and like and shadow installation stuff I used to design a lot of theater.

So the Refears background was like, how can I bring this into Instagram? That just opens me up to a whole roll of thirst traps. Am I right? Yeah. Exactly. So you have homework not only to listen, but to go check out their art and everything that they put

into this universe. Stop looking, listen. I love that. That's what you need to do. Well, thank you so much, guys. This has been amazing. We've been using you so much. And we're so excited to share this with the world now.

So go listen. Yeah. Thank you guys so much. We love having a Kiki with you always. We have to do it more often. Yes, thank you. Forever and always. Yes, Kiki for us.

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Ruthie said that whoever it was, they had thrown down the cabinet in the apartment next to hers and were trying to get into her home through the mirror. Damn. The 911 operator was still confused by her explanation, but instead of asking for further clarification, the operator collected Ruthie's name and address and informed her that they'd be sending police to her address. Yeah, one would hope with haste. Right. Now, the 911 operator did dispatch the police after ending the call with Ruthie. The problem was that Ruthie's call was logged as a less severe disturbance with a neighbor

instead of what it really was, a time sensitive break and enter. So they weren't able to underline the fact that somebody was literally coming through her bathroom mirror like a portal from hell. Yeah, they didn't understand that. So they just, the operator just interpreted it as there was some disturbance with the neighbor and it was like affecting her bathroom mirror.

I don't really know where the logic is. Well, yeah, no, it's not Ruth, he's fault, I'll tell you that. No, it is not. But at the end of the day, I mean, I probably just would have been like, it's real life bloody Mary, that's all that I can say. Right, click. Now, at 902, 911 received another call from a Grace Abbott resident reporting the sounds of Gunfire from apartment, 1109 Ruthie's apartment.

Two minutes later, another call came in at 9.04 and it was another neighbor claiming to have heard screaming and gunfire coming from Ruthie's apartment. After these reports came in, more police were dispatched to the scene. Now police eventually arrived to Ruthie's apartment at around 9.10 pm, 25 minutes after Ruthie's initial call for help. Two officers remained downstairs while another two officers took the elevators up to the 11th floor. Now, remembering that the elevators in the Grace Abbot

Highrise usually didn't work, Ruthie had actually made a point to let the 911 operator know that the elevators were in working order in hopes that that would help the police arrive to her apartment faster. Absolutely. And that's a testament to these living conditions. Yeah, the point that it's a known fact

that the elevators usually aren't working. Exactly. And that it's noteworthy that they were. Yeah, when your elevators' reputations precede them, it says something. That's right. Now, when the police arrived at Ruthie's apartment on the 11th floor, they knocked on the door.

It was about 9.15 pm at this point. The officers stood outside the door and waited for an answer, but no one ever came to the door. It was about 9.15 pm at this point. The officers stood outside the door and waited for an answer, but no one ever came to the door. They knocked a few more times, and there was nothing. The officers then attempted to open the door, but the door itself was locked. Now, assuming that perhaps Ruthie was in the apartment but unable to answer the door, police asked the dispatch to call the Ruthie's phone. Really, given the given the cause and the fact of everything that has just gone down, do they think that she's just watching an episode of Bananza or something? Listen, if you're trying to ascribe logic to the police's behavior in this case, your brain

is going to hurt by the end. Yeah, they're like, well, we don't want to fuck up the paint job on the door. Right. One day, a little while after Tera's seat is death, Remi was working at the hospital late into the night. When she decided to take a nap on a couch in the hospital's staff lounge. Now, moments after closing her eyes, though,

Remi said that she felt as if there was a ghostly presence in the room. She was basically like, I felt like I was being watched. So she opens her eyes and sees Teresita in the room with her. Who? Yeah, or at least the walking apparition of Teresita, standing at the opposite side of the room just staring blankly at her.

Now, Remi is completely terrified on the couch, frozen where she is, not knowing what to do, not being able to call out or anything like that, essentially in a state of paralysis. Sure. But then just like that, Teri see the disappeared. Remi didn't really know what to do with the experience or where to place it. She was just terrified.

So ultimately, she didn't bring it up with anyone. She was like, maybe it was a dream. Maybe it's just in my head. I don't really know. Uh-huh. But Remi just goes on with her life trying to shake this off. Now that would be easier said than done, because two weeks after that first encounter in the lounge in the hospital, Remi was at home one night with Jose and everything seemed

to be normal. However, all of a sudden, Remi starts to complain that she was feeling overly tired, so she ends up going to bed a little bit earlier than usual. And a little while after she went to bed, Jose was puttering around the home and then decided to pop into the bedroom to check in on her. Maybe, you know, wanted to see if she was like reading if he could get her a cup of water, any of that kind of couple shit. Just being a nice human being. Yeah, maybe he could do it for me every now then. I don't know. No, I'm just kidding. Don't wake me up from a nap.

You know better. Yes. Anyway, so he goes into the room, asks Remy if she is all right. But when Remy responds to Jose, he notices that her voice sounds different, almost like she's in a trans-like state. Ultimately, she starts speaking to him in Tagalog, which is her native tongue.

So she says, help me in a rather breathy voice that is not her own very distinctively. And Jose, seeing that she seemed to be in some sort of pain starts to question her about what was going on. Sure. So it doesn't really go anywhere, but at some point, he asks this altered voice, like, okay, well, who are you right now?

To which Remi responded, Teresita Baza. Which he shes. Yes. So this confuses the fuck out of Jose because he has no idea who Teresita Baza is. Right. The two of them weren't really that close, so it makes sense that Remi hadn't necessarily mentioned it to Jose just yet. So he's just kind of

letting this roll over him. Yeah, he's like, who is the stranger? Yeah. So he's like, who is the strange lady in my bed? Let's have this play out. So then Jose, not really knowing what was up, just let's her continue talking. And it was at that point that Remi tells Jose to tell the police that the name of her killer was a man named Alan Shawery. A-S. Yes. And she says that he was an orderly at the hospital that she worked at. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah. And basically she's like they're trying to find my killer. I know who it is. It is a man named Alan Shawery. Please help me. And the whole time Jose is just kind of like, okay, this is cool.

This is very Lindsey Lohan, I know who killed me. Oh, you're fucking right. Absolutely. Oh, I mean, like not to ruin the moment to bring Lilo into it, but, ooh, this is how you party in Mika Nose. Bitches. Yeah, for real.

So she's saying all of this to him in a trans-like state in their bed in Tegallic and Jose is basically just kind of taking note of all of this and then after about half an hour of this trans conversation Remi just wakes up. Oh, she's lucid and Jose doesn't really know what to do So he's just kind of like hey, Remi. Do you remember what just went down and Remi's kind of like, oh, I don't really know Is he, what are you talking about and he just goes nothing? Oh? He doesn't explain to her what happened absolutely. She's like what and he's like what you know, it's that kind of thing He just responds to her question with the louder question with more upward inflection and just hopes that the moment goes away. So he just moves on not bringing it up hoping that it just never happens again. Much like she did after she saw the Operation Weeks prior.

Sure, but like honestly, if I was in that situation with you and you were napping and you were talking as somebody else, I feel like I would tell you about it. I don't know, it just feel like that would be something we'd have a conversation about. Well, yeah, that's something that we would have a conversation about because we're spooky bitches, but, you know, we can't speak for every couple. Hey, Prime Members. You can listen to Morvid, Early, and Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen Add Free with Wondery Plus and

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