Morbid - Robert Hansen Part 2

Episode Date: February 13, 2019

It's the conclusion to our dive into Robert Hansen, the Alaskan serial murderer who hunted women like animals and got away with it for a while thanks to his bakery being a town favorite. Yes, you read that right. This guy is a real turd. Sources: https://allthatsinteresting.com/robert-hansen   Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer by Walter Gilmore Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is morbid. Full-length morbid. Fool-length. Full-length. Ful-length morbid. Welcome back, everybody.

Welcome back, bitches. Welcome back to another installment of Robert Hanson. Yay. That guy from Alaska. You can see... Wait, what can he see from his house? What you say? He was going to say Nebraska.

He can see Russia from his back porch. Yeah, exactly. We had a few people who were super psyched about an Alaskan case. We have some Alaskans who are super psyched. Well, happy to please you. So hey, Alaskans that were super psyched, we're glad that we could give you this. Hey, Alaska. Hey, Alaska.

We got to thank some patronesses. Let's do it. Let's do this. You're going to hear my paper, but it's to thank you. so just do it. In the weirdos category this week, we have a Madonna named Olivia. Olivia, so hot right now. Yes, I live for that.

Thank you, Olivia. Thank you, Madonna, Olivia. Thank you so much. And she's the lone weirdo this time. Oh, I love when it's just a lone weirdo. I do too. We're all a bunch of lone weirdos. It's true.

In the window latching coven, we have Grace Huber. Grace Huber. Thank you so much. Grace Huber. Thank you. Your last name was fun to write. It was like squirly twirly. Then we have Janie.

I'm really sorry, girl. Kernishan, I must say. Janie or Jeannie? It was J-A-N-I-E. Oh, Janie Kurnisham? Yes. Janie Kurnishan. You are just everything that's right in the universe right now.

Sure are. hold us all together. Thanks, Janie. So I appreciate it. And then we have... Janie, sorry. Then we have Rebecca Darling. Rebecca Darling. You're damn darling. Oh my God. How did you come up with that? I know. That was really creative. Rebecca Darling. Thanks, darling. Thanks, darling. Thanks, darling. You're the best. Then we have Alia McLaughlin.

Aalya McLaughlin. Tell the story. Tell the story. Not only do you have a great first name because it's one of the best singers, like R&B singers ever, RIP. But second, your last name is my husband's favorite last name on planet Earth. Like, he loves the last name McLaugh. Which is the funniest thing in the entire world. So you have a special place in my heart right now. You do. Thanks, Alia. Thank you so much, Alia.

Then we have Katie McKeon. Katie McKeon. Maybe. McKeon. You're the Bees Neon. Yeah. Yeah, if I said your last name right, that works perfectly. And then...

Thanks so much. Yes, thank you, Katie. In the evil onion category, we have Delaney Hall. Delaney Hall. I know Ash has a special place in her art for you. Listen, Delaney, you have my favorite name ever. It's the best name in the world. I want to name one of my kids, Delaney.

But Annie says no, because there was this one girl that she didn't like named Delaney. So it ruins it for all the other Delaney's in the world. But I bet you're fucking rad. Yeah, I bet she's not that Delaney. She's not. No. So thank you so much, Delaney. Thanks, Delaney.

And then we have Dina. I'm sorry if I mess your last name up. Guys, you have hard last name this week. Dina Murccio, I'm going to say. Dina Murccio. Yeah. You're the... I thought I had something there, but I don't.

You're not good at this this week. But you know what? Dina Murccio. Gio, you're the best. Yeah. Totally. And then we have the jagged little bitch this week. I'm really tired.

It's late. Yeah, it is. We have a jagged little bitch named Brittany with an eye, which is so cute. Huddlet. Huddlet. Brittany Huddlet. Or hoodlet. Or hoodlet. Sorry.

I just think you're wonderful. I think you're great. Thank you. You're everything you need to be to us and more. You've exceeded our expectations, Brittany, Huddlet, so we appreciate you. You absolutely did, Brittany. I couldn't ask for more. Thank you, Brittany.

Thank you. And the final. Patreon and my best friend in the whole wide world who is actually in a category all on her own is in life as well in life in the Patreon in my heart marissa cremen i love you msacremon you're the most relevant you are of all the relevant people so relevant emcrem the most relevant relevant woman we say this because quick little little jokey time When she didn't see my kids for a little while, she was worried that they would not think she was relevant anymore. And this was when they were like 18 months old.

She was so worried. So we constantly have to tell Marissa that she's relevant. Thanks all the Patrions. We could not be able to do this without you. Thank you so much, Patronus's. You're the best. And just as a little note, if you have donated to the Patreon and you have yet to hear your name shouted out tonight, or any other night on any other episode,

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and we'll see if we hear. And we'll fix it. We'll make it right for you. We'll make it right. guys. So I think we don't have any other business to attend to. So why don't we just jump into the Alaskan wilderness with Robert Hanson? Oh, I just jumped. I jumped into the wilderness. That's the noise you make when you jump. I'm there. Let's do this. It kind of feels like the Alaskan wilderness tonight actually, because we're getting a snowstorm. I really,

really hope and pray that my boss doesn't make us go to work tomorrow. But I really, really doubt it. I do too, but I'm going to think good thoughts for you. So without further ado, Robert Hansen, when we talked about him last week, I think we left off with his first couple of victims that he actually ended up murdering. We talked about Roxanne Eastland. We talked about a clutna Annie, or a cloutna Annie. I'm not exactly sure to say that. We talked about Joanna Messina, and then we talked about Lisa Futrell. And then we said there was a whole year between Lisa and the next victim. So the next victim was found on September 12th, 1982. From here and out, we're going to kind of talk about when they were found because we don't have a whole lot of

information about all the 17 that we have. So we're just going to kind of hit the ones that we know about. We're going to talk about when they were found and do it that way. So we're kind of in the timeline we need to be in because I don't want to jump all over. So the next victim was found on September 12th, 1982. Hunters found her in a shallow grave on the banks of the Canick River. I don't know if it's Kinnick or Nick. Someone from Alaska tell me. It borders Anchorage. Her remains were identified as 23-year-old topless dancer Sherry Morrow. She had been reported missing a whole year earlier. Oh, wow. They found that she had been shot in the back three times. And cartridges were found near her body that were from a 223 rugger or rugger i don't know guns guys don't yell at me i don't know

them roger i think it is mini 14 hunting rifle now that's what she ended up being shot with a hunting rifle now weirdly her body was found fully clothed but there were no bullet holes in her clothing so obviously she was nude when she was shot and was dressed before she was buried interesting which is really creepy and weird. I'm surprised you even dressed her. Right? It's just so weird. It is.

So later, it was determined that the night before she had disappeared, she had told a friend that some dude offered her $300 for a nude photo shoot. Now, $300 is a lot of money. Sure is. She ended up being driven, and obviously it was Robert Hanson, she ended up being driven to an abandoned lean-to in the wilderness by Robert Hansen with an ace bandage wrapped around her eyes. Oh.

So she, how creepy does that sound? Hate that. Like, not even a regular band, like, just bandana around her or something. An ace bandage. Like, I don't know why that just gives me the willies. He did this, he said, because he didn't want her to, that, okay, so his whole thing is that he's always saying that he never intended to kill these girls. Like, he was always going into this with the intention of he was going to do whatever he wanted

to do. And then they were the ones that went bat shit. stopped listening to him panicked and he ended up he was like I had to kill them but you like totally put it on them like he totally put it on them so he said he did this because he didn't want her to see where they were he said because he was planning on letting her go and he didn't want her to be able to find this location again because he wanted to use this location again Jesus yeah he's a sick so I know so he ended up getting his SUV stuck in the snow which he does a lot I'm like, dude.

You're like, maybe you get some snow tires if you're really going to make murder your fucking hunting game. Smooth this situation out. Maybe, like, throw some chains around the tires. Do what you got to do. But, like, you really... Go to Michelin. Call it a day. Like, he really is a dork.

Like, you can't even... Drive a car. Do that right. Yeah, like, oh, I got to snuck. So he gets out, he's trying to get the cargo, and he's messing around with it. Sherry is smart, so she runs out of the car. But she's blind, holded, and has... her hands tied up. Oh, fuck.

And it's pitch black in the Alaskan wilderness. Well, obviously, she did not get super far. So he got her, and he said that he watched her run around and scream for a little while, and then just shot her in the back. How fucking sick is that? Also, what a pussy to shoot her in the back? Right? Always a dick move.

And I'm just picturing that. Like, him just sitting there, like, enjoying watching her run around and scream blindfolded in the Alaskan wilderness, and he's just standing there with a rifle. Yeah, that just... Trusts me out. Like, that scene alone, I'm like, ugh. Like, you need serious, serious psychiatric treatment, sir. Yeah.

It just seems like the scariest scene you could ever conjure up. He then ended up stealing a very distinctive gold arrowhead necklace of hers, which ended up being one of the things that nailed him to the wall later. Dund, done, done. Because he was, again, think about... he's a hunter by by trade he loves trophies and by all accounts he was a really good hunter he was in like several of those books with records and all that so he's going to take trophies that's what hunters do you're not hunting just to leave the animal there

be like well it was fun see you later his whole his whole house was covered in animal trophies i mean there was antlers everywhere heads everywhere just animal parts yikes and so of course he's going to take trophies from his human victim You know, but I think he's just, this is all he can do is just steal the IDs and all that, so. Which is like the worst thing you could do. Yeah, it's just like, in order to get caught, I mean. Yeah, it's just like, that's the thing. I'm like, you must know other killers, like, red other true crime things.

If you're a serial killer, you have to at least know one other case of this. You know what I mean? You're not totally in a vacuum here. So it's like, you must know that any time that would they do that. it nails them to the wall later. Like, it connects you to the case in a second. Right. So it's just dumb.

And it's, like, narcissistic and it's egotistical. It's arrogant because they think that they're going to be the ones to be able to do it and get away with it. Well, that's the whole thing about, like, being a serial killer is you're just, like, narcissistic as fuck. And you just, like, think that you're going to be the one that doesn't get caught. Exactly. But guess what? You are. You're always going to be the one to get caught.

You poop head, McBoopeed. So, in the year between Sherry being 10. taken and her being found that whole year, he had already killed three more women. Shit. So he had four in that year? Just in that year. Just in that year. And he already had about three before that.

So it wasn't until 1983 that he really started getting looked at as a dangerous asshole. So this is the thing I was talking to everybody about about basically how he gets caught. And they do it. It's like the main story in that movie, Frozen. ground, the frozen ground or whatever it is. I think Vanessa Hudson, uh, yeah, Vanessa Hutchins. Vanessa Hutchins plays this girl.

On June 13th, 1983, 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ended up escaping from Hanson. Oh, shit, motherfucker. Exactly. And she escaped while he was trying to load her into his Piper Super Cub plane to drive her out into the woods. A plane? Yes. Because this dude has...

a plane. An airplane or like a small plane? No, like an actual small piper club is like a small single engine plane. Holy shit. Yeah, no joke. So she told police that he had offered her $200 to perform fallacio, but that when she got into the car, he pulled a gun on her and drove her to his home in Muldoon. Where was his wife?

I don't know. That's the thing. His wife is like, I don't really know. They don't really like mention where she is during all this or anything. I don't know if he did this when she was visiting family. I don't know if she, like, it's very odd. But she really didn't know. Weird.

So, so yeah, so he drives her back to the home in Maldun. Once there, he basically holds her captive and he ends up torturing, raping her, beating her. and then he chains her to by the neck to a post in the basement. Oh my God, of his home? Yeah. Yes. And if you, there's pictures, I believe I posted photos of his basement. It's just all these antlers and like dead animal heads.

Oh, that was his basement? It's just creepy as hell. Yeah. Fuck that. And then he just took a nap on the couch nearby after he chained her up by the neck. Well, you know, it's really tiring work. It is. It's really tough to torture someone.

Totally. So. So she said she tried to get out of the restraints. She couldn't get out. He woke up. He gets her out of the restraints. He puts her in his car and took her to Merrill Field Airport, where he told her that he was going to, quote,

take her out to his cabin. Now, this cabin was a shack in the, again, Kinnick or Nick River area of the Matanuska Valley, and it was only accessible by boat or bushplane. So you couldn't drive there. you had to take a boat or you had to take a little plane. Yeah. Now, he told her he was going to take her there, but he said, don't worry, I'm going to have

you back home by 11 a.m. the next day. So, like, you're going to live. I'm going to let you go. I'm just not done with you yet. So Cindy obviously is like, yeah, this is, he's not bringing back. Like, I'm not an idiot. So she's crouched in the backseat of the car with her wrists cuffed in front of her. and she said that Hansen was loading the airplane's cockpit with all their stuff and he was trying to get the like because it's like I think it's like a two-seater or something or like maybe a four-seater it's one of those really tiny ones and he was trying to get one of

the plane seats like up in the upright position and he couldn't do it goes he's a big digress while he was doing that he left that he had his back to her so he said while his back was turned she crawled out of the back seat opened the driver's side door and ran towards 6th Avenue Yo. So she later told police also that she had left her blue sneakers on the passenger side floor of the backseat of his car because she said that she left them there so she could say, see, I was in that car. Holy shit. How smart.

Which I'm like, wow, that's smart. Wicked smart. And it almost didn't help her because wait until how you see how dumb these police are. So Hansen saw that she was running and he panicked and started chasing her. But she made it to 6th Avenue first and was flagging down a truck. Oh, my God. Now, while he's chasing her, someone in the airports, like, I think it was a security guard, saw him running, didn't see her, but saw him running, like, frantically,

and, like, caught eyes with him, and Hansen said he stopped as soon as he saw that and just kind of, like, slowed down and then turned around and walked back to the plane, like, because he was like, this guy's going to think I'm up to something. Well, he probably already does now that since he saw you, like, chilled right out. Exactly. And now he sees you just chilling out really quick and just walking calmly back to him. He's like, casual. What was this dude doing?

So the truck that stopped for Cindy was a driver named Robert Yount. And he was obviously like, what the hell? But he stopped and picked her up. He drove her to the mush in, and she said she jumped out of the truck and just ran inside. Oh, my God. Now, she said she pleaded with the clerk to phone her boyfriend slash pimp, who was at the big timber motel. And the truck driver drove away because he was like, I don't know what to do, but he called police to report this. Because she was like so frantic that she just got out of the car and ran into the motel.

Right. And he was like, uh, like, do you want me to do anything? So he was like, he called the police and was like, hey, so I just picked up this, you know, barefooted handcuffed woman. who said that this dude, like, was trying to kill her and assaulted her and tortured her. So the Anchorage Police Department officers arrived at the mushen where she was dropped off. They were told that she had taken a cab to the Big Timber Motel where her pimp was staying. Officers arrived at Room 110 of the Big Timber Motel and found her still handcuffed and just alone in the room. She was taken out of the headquarters and she...

Why was she alone? I don't know. Oh, I know why he was alone. At first, I said the same thing. I was like, why was she alone? I thought that, like, the boyfriend slash pimp was supposed to be in the room. But what happened was she got there, told him the whole story, and he went looking for Robert Hanson. He went looking for him with, like, a gun.

Like, was going to go kill him. Literally went to go kill him at the airport. Like, was like, bye. That's a good pimp boyfriend, bay. So. Pimp, boyfriend, bay. Steady Pimp. So when she was.

she got brought back to the APD headquarters. She described who took her, and it was Robert Hansen. And she said, it's Robert Hansen. Of course, Hansen was taken in and questioned, and he denied the whole thing. And he said that Cindy was just trying to get, just trying to cause some trouble for him because he wouldn't pay her extortion demands. So he was like, she's just trying to get money. She's a sex worker.

Why are you listening to her? Because that was his MO. That's great. Because if you remember in part one, it was always his word against the sex worker and the police department was always like, we're going to take this fine baker's word. Well, even that woman who he followed home, didn't she report him to police? And they were like, sorry.

And they did some, I mean, they did more with that one than they did with the other ones, but they really were not taking the word of these, of sex workers here. He even let them into his home without a warrant. Like he was like, go ahead, search. Wow. Because he was, he didn't think he's arrogant. He didn't think they were going to find anything. Because he had apparently, so he used like a, I think like a hook in a, or like an eyelid hook to chain her to the pole in the basement.

And when she let, when she pieced out and ran, he went home and pulled that hook out and puttyed up the hole. So it wasn't there anymore. So he thought like they can't even pin on that. Like even if she said that, I'll be like, there's nothing. Whoa. Yeah, he's insane. Mastermind. So when they went down there, though, they saw that everything.

else was exactly how Cindy described it. Like, she described all the walls. She said exactly what was down there. And what's even crazier is obviously Hansen had had a few run-ins with the law. I mean, he had stolen shit and all that stuff. So he had been brought in many times. So it was on his record. Well, the department, the APD was in the process of transferring their computer system to a new one. So none of his priors showed up. So basically when they looked up his record, it looked like, He was squeak clean. So this is when the police were like, huh, I think we should question the sex workers. That story instead of his.

So they asked her to take a polygraph. Yeah, you know. Not him. They asked her to take a polygraph. Dude, what is wrong with this world? She was obviously and rightfully really pissed off and was like, no, I'm not taking one. Like, I told you everything. This is ridiculous.

If you're not going to believe me, then why would I do this? Now, remember, she had, I mean, she had injuries that proved that something had happened. And she described every bit of his car, his plane, his home, and his face to them. And he had a distinctive face. He had acne scars. He had a stutter. He had the glasses. I mean, so the investigation was closed.

Are you kidding me? That is, until Detective Glenn Floth, I think it is, of the Alaska State Troopers decided to become involved. Because he was like, wait a second, something is awry here. Now, Floth. You said his name was Glenn? Yes, Detective Glenn Floth. So, Glenn's always know what's going on. Glens are always on the forefront of everything.

Glens are like ahead of the game. Glens be known. Glens do be known. They really do. And this Glenn was already part of the team that was investigating the discovery of the bodies that we talked about before. And they were finding all these women in and around Anchorage. And he was

part of the team that was investigating this. Now in September 1983, troopers ended up finding the body of Paula Golding. It was in a wooded area near the Knick-O-Nick River. And it was only accessible

bipolar plane. So this is, that's a big thing because it's like bodies don't just end up in places that you can't drive to. So... Right, exactly. At the scene, they found the same shell casings that were at the other body dumps. And suddenly they were all becoming connected. So Glenn was the one who started to connect all the missing sex workers from the previous

couple of years as well. Because he started going down a list of missing sex workers that were just not being investigated. And he started connecting that, wait a second, these might be these girls. He ended up with a victim list of 10 names that were missing. All of them were in their 20s, between 5-4 and 5-7. They all had jobs as topless dancers at one point. And they all had conveniently had very high-paying dates arranged with complete strangers before going missing. So can you guess who that stranger might have been?

No, I have no idea. You have no idea? I know, I'm not laying the breadcrums well. Can I phone a friend? So luckily, I know it sounds like the Alaska Police Department are completely hopeless, but they're not totally. They're kind of sound like the LAPD. Right? They're like the LAPD of the wilderness.

But they're not. They're not completely helpless. Of the wilderness. An investigator on the APD named Craig Baker, apparently was horrified by how the whole thing was handled in his department. And he joined the investigation with Glenn. So Greg and Glenn are on the case. Now, because he needed a search warrant, he decided to go outside the box for this. And he contacted the FBI and he talked to Special Agent Roy Hazelwood.

And he requested that he helped him form a criminal psychological profile based on these three bodies that they were covered. This was like a not normal or like this was not a common thing to do back then. Like this was pretty outside the box to ask the FBI to do a. psychological profile because it was fairly new. I mean, even doing profiling was fairly new. I think profiling is so interesting. Wait until you hear how much they, I don't know how they did this because it's literally Hansen. Like they, I don't know how they did it. It's like, it's psychicness. It's magic. So Roy Hazelwood, the special agent that was coming up with the criminal profile, thought that the killer would be an experienced hunter with low self-esteem, have a

history of being rejected by women and would feel compelled to keep souvenirs of his murders, such as jewelry and all that. He also said that he might stutter, literally said he might stutter, which blows my mind. Why did he think that? I don't know how it works, man. It's like an art. I have no idea how we pulled that out. But, and obviously this is...

I would love to be able to profile. It's crazy to me. It's like unbelievable. That probably makes your dating game so much easier. Oh yeah, you can profile everybody. I'd be profiling everybody. She's a nope. He's a nope. He's going to buy me steak, hell, yeah. That's what you would use of. The common good. Fuck, yeah. The greater good.

So they used this profile and they started investigating possible subjects until they got to Hanson. Who weirdly. And they were like not the first person he thought of. Well, they were like, he fits this perfectly, and he owns a plane, and had been investigated before. And we have like 452 million people being like, hey, he did this. Now, in the meantime, troopers were also comparing tire treadmarks at crime scenes and, like, in and out of crime scenes. And they were matching tires that were on Hansen's plane because the tires on Hansen's plane were like very, very, specific tires that like only he had.

So they were already starting to connect all this. So they had Cindy Paulson's testimony. They had Hazelwood's criminal profile. And so Glenn and the APD were able to get a search warrant to search Hanson's plane, cars, and home. So on October 27, 1983, they went to his house. They started looking. They uncovered jewelry belonging to some.

of the missing women and an array of firearms in a corner hideaway of Hansen's attic. So in his attic, in like insulation, he had hidden this jewelry. And they found it. Like one of the investigators happened to go up there and start looking through it and boom, he found it. Now, they also found an aviation map with little X marks on it in various areas. And it was hidden behind Hansen's headboard on his bed where he slept with his wife. He was literally sleeping in front of that. Now, when they compared it with the four murders that they were ready to tie to him,

they matched where the bodies were found exactly. Oh, no. But didn't you say how many were there? There were 20 more Xs on the map. Oh, good. So among the items that they found in his home, he had kept a fish necklace that had been custom made for the victim, Andrea Altieri.

So this was like a custom-made necklace. They could not, like, you know, mistake it for anybody else. Right. And at the end of this, I'm going to name the victims, because I haven't named them all yet, so I just want to make sure I get their names out there, but I'll do it at the end. Now, this case actually, this is just a little aside, it also set a legal precedent in 1983 where psychological profiling was used as the main basis for issuing search warrants. So this was like a precedent. So that's kind of cool. Now, there were a couple of people who still gave him an alibi. And what is wrong with those people? But when the cops talked to them and said what they had found in his home, all of a sudden they were both like, well, fuck, we lied. Like, they literally were like, whoops, we don't want to go to jail forever, so we lied, sorry.

And it's like, how, you were ready to lie for this dude. Like, that's, that's bonkers to me. And like, what did he even do for you? Exactly. I think he baked them delicious baked goods. I mean, I like baked goods. I don't know if I'm ready to lie for him. though. Betty Crocker, Isle 6.

Make your own brownies. I mean, I loved baked goods, but I don't know if I can formulate or materialize an alibi for them. I cannot. I just don't think it's worth it. Now, Hansen was arrested and he was charged with assault,

kidnapping, multiple weapons offenses, and theft and insurance fraud. Now, that last charge was related to a claim filed with the insurance company where he said, somebody had stolen a ton of his like animal heads and he said like someone came in stole all his animal heads from his cabin or his house

and the insurance company gave him like an absurd amount of money they gave him something like $10,000 for it or something and he used it to buy that plane so he bought that plane with it stolen insurance money now when confronted with the evidence found in his home he denied denied denied but then eventually when it became they were like dude we literally have everything he was like okay i did it but it's the women's fault totally which it's like okay in cell okay yeah like classic in cell hanson and then he tried to just say that it was their fault because if they had just stayed calm and didn't panic he wouldn't have had to kill them you know Like, just stay calm while I let you loose in the middle of the woods and hunt you like an animal.

And that's the thing. Just, like, calm down. Just stay calm, like, chill. Some people play Twister and Scrabble. I play hunt people like animals. I play the most dangerous game. I don't understand what the problem is here. You are really high-strung.

Like, it's all good, Sharon. Yeah, it's all good, Sharon, it's fine. So, uh, during a 12-hour sit-down with a prosecutor, he grew, gradually let out what his life was that he concealed from his entire family. He started confessing to each item of evidence as it was presented to him. So they would be like, here's a necklace. And he was like, yep, like that. I took that.

And then he topped it off by admitting to a spree of attacks against women, not just the ones that they were presenting to him, but he said it started in 1971. Now this was in 1983. So he was like, oh, I've been doing this for a while. He's like, you idiots. He said his earliest victims were young women usually between 16 and 19 and not sex workers. These were women that he somehow just picked up and got into his car.

And it was their fault too. It was their fault too. Cool. He also said he raped some 30 women and murdered as many as 21. Wow. Some reports say 30. seven. That's disgusting. But obviously they've not all been found, it confirmed.

He would kidnap them, the same MO, bring him back to his home, where he shackled him in his basement room, known as his den. The women were shackled by their arms, legs, and necks. He would sexually assault them for as long as he wanted to. And then often he would make it so that they were too weak to fight back. Like, that was his plan. He would do it until he was like, you're sufficiently weak.

When he was over it, he was over it, he would then put them into his small bush plane and bring them out to the wilderness. So he was literally flying victims into the Alaskan wilderness after he tortured and raped them and then let them go into the middle of the woods of Alaska. And like we said, hunt them down like animals. Sometimes, reports said sometimes for days at a time. What? Yeah.

Before fatally shooting them in all cases he shot. I think he only stabbed one. Now, Yeah. He was extremely detached from these women, obviously as humans. Like, you have to be to do that. But, like, he was, he made it very clear. He actually referred to his murders as, quote, a summertime project in an interview.

Like, buddy, you're not cleaning out the garage. Like, a summertime project. What? You're not, like, Marie condoing your house for the summer. That's not what that is. Like, you're not tidying up. You're not tidying up. So he reminds me so much of, like, BTK.

Like, he had the wife, he had kids, they had no freaking clue. And he's just doing this as a summertime project. Or like Ted Bundy. Yeah, it's true. Like tons of friends, a girlfriend. Yeah. But with BTK, it's like he was married for decades and had kids. Yeah, the marriage thing is different than me.

Yeah, it's like you're living in a house with someone. That would be. like John suddenly being revealed to be a serial killer, I'd be like, what? Oh, I meant to tell you. No, I'm just kidding. I found some shit out. Like, that would blow my brain apart. Like, I always think about that with like, BTK's wife and stuff. I'm like, man, that must just, I don't even know where to go with that. Yeah, I can't even put myself there. It's crazy. So, Hansen did enter a plea bargain after ballistics tests, did match the bullets found at the crime scenes to his rifle specifically. So once that piece of evidence was in there, well, he was like, all right, cool.

The plea bargain. So in 18, 1984, he pleaded guilty to the four homicides the police had evidence for, which is Morrow, Messina, Golding, and a clitney. He provided details about the victims, and he said he would provide all the details in return for serving his sentence in a federal prison, along with no, like he wanted the publicity surrounding his case to be minimal. so that his family wasn't affected, which is like, oh, what a god. What a gentleman. Like, how about the family that you affected?

Like, yo, and you weren't thinking about that when you were murdering women? Like, damn. Or like, what about all the people that have to explain, like, where their daughter was? And another, now a condition on the police part of the plea bargain was that he had to tell them what the markings on the aviation map meant. and he had to locate all of his victim's bodies. Like he had to bring them to the bodies so they could get them. He ended up leading police to 17 of the gravesites. And they said that he was almost, now they had him like heavily shackled and like covered with people.

Like he wasn't just walking around the wilderness by himself. But the police said that he was like running to the sites, like hurriedly going. Like he was hard to keep up with. And they said he hadn't been to some of these places. and years and years. And he knew it right off the top of his head exactly where they were. They said they never had to dig more than one hole to find them. Because he could tell you, which is such a hunter thing too, I feel like.

Like he's, yeah. But damn. That's fuck. Which is just crazy. So 12 of these bodies that they found were completely unknown to investigators, like totally new information. Oh, my God. And then there were some marks on the map that he refused to give up the location,

that he refused to tell anything about, which... So then, did his end of the plea bargain get held up? Well, I guess it did, but I think they were just happy to get what they could get from him, basically. That's not fair, though. Because I think he agreed to it, and then this happened, so they were like, we have to just go with it. Why do you think he refused? Who knows? Like just to be a dick, probably just to be a dick.

These were in Resurrection Bay near Seward. and authorities suspect that two of these marks belong to the graves of Mary Phil and Megan Emrick, who he denies killing. But they think that they're tied to him. Because you know these dicks. They'll be like, oh, yeah, I'll tell you everything. They seem all fine with telling all the details and all that good stuff. And then all of a sudden they'll be like, oh, I didn't do that.

And then you find out later they did. And you're like, well, why don't, why are you denying that one? You know, like, they do this shit. It's so weird. It's a monkey. Yeah. So the remains of 12 victims, which they say of a probable 21 victims, were exhumed by police in return to their families. Wow.

Now, he confirmed to police exactly how they thought these women were being abducted that he was doing that. And then he said, sometimes he would let potential victims go if she convinced him that she wouldn't report to the police. So every once in a while, he was like, I just felt like it and I would let her go. So it's like you never knew. She's just playing God that day. Yeah. He basically said it was. easy because in the vastness of

Alaskan wilderness, there's never any witnesses to worry about. No one's going to hear them scream in the middle of the woods. And he said in 1980, he shot the dog of a woman he had murdered so that the dog wouldn't lead anyone to her grave. Wow, I already thought he was a piece of shit. Doesn't that make you hate

him like so much more? I could strangle him with my bare hand. Like, he's the worst. Like, he's awful, awful beyond. And then he's like, and then he shoots a dog of a murdered woman so that the dog can't find his owner and lead police to them? I hope somebody makes him their bitch.

I'm saying. Like 20 people, though. Now, Alaska has no death penalty. So after his guilty plea, he was sentenced to 461 years in prison without the possibility of parole. So, don't worry, he's not going anywhere. He was first imprisoned at the United States Penitentiary, Lewisburg and Lewisburg, Pennsylvania.

In 1988, he was returned to Alaska and was incarcerated at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau. And then that was only for a short period of time, though. And he was also imprisoned at Spring Creek Correctional Center in Seward until May 2014. And then for health reasons, he was transferred to Anchorage Correctional Complex, and that's where he was when he died on August. August 21st, 2014, after 30 years behind bars at the age of 75 from natural causes. Wow. And what a doucheer. As a little aside, the Pope and Young Club that had entered his records into their hunting records book, Pope and Young, whatever.

They initially said that his crimes didn't invalidate his bow hunting records. Like they were like, you still got those records. But they have since removed his name from the record books. Yeah. Oh, race. Yeah, it's like good, good call. Cut, cut, cut. His wife and two children tried to stay in Alaska.

But after two years of the children being, like, harassed at school, Mrs. Hansen filed for divorce and they moved to the lower 48. That's really sad, like that kids would make fun of them. Yeah, they had to be running. out of Alaska. Yeah, that's fuck. And like, don't make fun of somebody because their dad's a murderer. Like, they didn't try. They didn't choose that. That always blows my mind. I'd be like, why would you ever pin that on a kid? It's like, they obviously had no idea. And it's like, do you really think their home life was that great? Their dad's a serial killer? Like, Jesus.

Like, fuck off. Like, maybe give them a break. Kids are the worst. The 17 women that I just want to name really quick, just so we can make sure their names are in there. Definitely. are Lisa Futrell, Malay Larson, Sue Luna, Tammy Pedersen, Angela Federn, Teresa Watson, DeLynn, DeLynn, Sugar Frey, Paula Goulding. Those were all people who their bodies were found with Hanson's help. Andrea Fish Altieri, which he admitted to killing, but her body was not found. Sherry Morrow was he admitted to killing and they found her body without his help. Aklitna Annie, he admitted to killing. They found her body, but her true identity has never been discovered.

Joanna Messina, he admitted killing her. Her body was found without his help. Another one they nicknamed Horseshoe Harriet, who he acknowledged. Her body was found with his help, but her true identity has never been discovered. Roxanne Eastland, who he acknowledged but the, they couldn't find her body. Celia Beth Van Zenton. He denied this one.

She was only 17. Oh, my God. He denied this one, but it's tied to him because of the X on the aviation map, and her body was found on that X. Oh, yeah. So he did it. The next one is Megan Emrick. She was also 17.

He denied this one, but there's an X on the aviation map where her body was found. So again, he did it. Mary Phil another one he denies but the ex matches her body and again it's like so three exes match three shallow graves in the

Alaskan wilderness and you're telling me that's a fucking coincidence you dumbass it's not like come on now of the 17 women he was again he was only formally charged for the murder of four sherry Morrow

Joanna Messina Eclitna Annie and Paula Goulding but he was also charged with the kidnapping and rape of Cindy Poulson that is the end of Robert Hansen. So he did. Wow, what a whirlwind.

He did. Don't worry about him anymore. But he was pretty brutal and awful. R.I.D. Rest in distress. Yeah. I like that. Thank you.

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