Morbid - Rod Ferrell “The Vampire Cult Killer” AKA Turbo Douche

Episode Date: September 4, 2018

Rod Ferrell was a special kind of jerk. Convinced he was a 500 year old vampire named Vesago living in a 16 year old boy's body, he took his otherworldly fantasies to the brink by carrying out two senseless, brutal murders. He didn't just kill anyone, though. By his own admission, he murdered the parents of one of his cult followers for the rush of it. Does he care? Nope. Does he still think he is a 500 year old vampire? Yup. This one is a trip, guys. Sources: Death of Innocence: Children Who Kill by Bud Weiser https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/lake/os-convicted-vampire-cult-killer-howard-scott-anderson-20170322-story.html https://amurdermostfoul.com/2017/02/21/the-kentucky-vampire-clan/ https://listverse.com/2018/03/31/10-dark-facts-about-the-vampire-cult-killer-rod-ferrell/ https://www.wkms.org/post/slideshow-murray-vampire-clan-murders-happened-20-years-ago-week#stream/0 http://www.gothicsubculture.com/vamp-clan.php Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Ooh. I think this is a case that you're really only familiar with if you're like a super creep who like... I actually don't know this case. Yeah, it's one of the, it's a very deep dive one that like it's, it's, I remember seeing like documentaries like here and there about it, like not documentaries, but like little television things about it. And I got super interested in it and decided to do a deep dive. So hopefully this is new to you guys because it's always fun to hear a new case.

I'm excited. This is the vampire cult killer. Rod Farrell, also known as the Wendorf Murders. Wentorf murders? Yes, the Wendorf murders. Okay. It has a lot of names. So this story is basically going to center around a group of misfit Kentucky teenagers who formed a vampire clan.

Which would be fine. Yeah, it's totally fine. But then they took it way too far, and they allowed their fantasies to kind of turn into real mayhem and real murder. Uh-oh. Not all of them. Really, only one. The ringleader. It's always one fucking bad seed.

Yeah, and it's like, identifying as a vampire is totally fine. Like, we support you. Yeah, that's cool as fun. We are here for you. Like, by all means, from what I've seen about, like, most real vampire clans or families, whatever they, like, I think they all call themselves different, like, clans, whatever, covens. They have, like, you know, good rules.

Yeah. They're not supposed to hurt anyone. Yeah. And it's like, people are supposed to be consenting. They seem super like chill people. But these people, they took it into like a place. They took it into like a cliche place. Well, that's the thing. Like these kind of cases give other things like a bad name.

And that's why like vampire vampires have to be like, yo, I'm just a vampire. Yeah. Like, this is just who I am. please just let me live. And it's like, and then these people go and do like the, what the movies are telling you a vampire is. So yeah, don't murder people. I'd be so annoyed if I was a vampire and people were giving me a bad name.

Well, it just sucks that like you're already, you've already taken this kind of leap to like just be who you are. Right. Which is hard to do in any. And that takes a lot of. Yeah, I mean, like in a lot of, you know. And with anything, not just being a vampire. It takes a lot to come out and say who you are.

And it's like they just, and then they get these people who are murdering people and being like, I'm a vampire. And it just makes it that much harder. Yeah. So it just sucks. So fuck these guys. So like, don't be mean to people who identify as vampires because they're not this guy. We just want to make that very clear that like this is not. Don't be mean to anybody.

In fact, and I think I have it like way down in my notes, but the lead investigator on this case, I was watching a documentary about it. And he actually says in the documentary, this murder had nothing to do with the occult. It had nothing to do with vampirism. This is just a bad guy who decided to do bad things. And he had to put some kind of label on that. And so when the lead investigator in Florida, where this ended up happening, is saying that where, like, no offense to Florida, but like, there's a lot of places there that are not very progressive. Yeah, that's progressive of him. That's pretty for him to say this has nothing to do with vampirism.

Like, don't connect it with that. It doesn't have to do with the occult. This is just a shitty dude who did a really shitty thing. So, like, he's evil. that's it. So even the investigators don't connect this with it. So don't connect this with real people who identify as vampires. That's the end of my PSA. So Roderick Justin Rod Farrell. Roderick Justin Rod Ferrell. Yes. Justin or Dustin? Justin. Justin or Dustin? Justin. But he goes by Rod. Was born on March 28th, 1980. He grew up in Murray, Kentucky, which is known as the buckle of the Bible Belt of the United States.

with one church to every 300 people. Whoa. And it's also where Ted Bundy tried to kidnap and murder Carol, legendary Harold Durant. Oh shit. It was in Murray, Kentucky. Yes, with your hair, girl. At, like, the fashion spot or somewhere.

It was like a mall called, like, the fashion spot, I don't remember. I would chop there. But yeah, I just thought it was a fun little, you know. And this town is alcohol-free. It's a dry town. Fuck that, can I just say. And unfortunately, Rod kind of put it on the map. They're not psyched about it.

So they're, I mean, but they're all kind of, because again, there's a church for every group of 300 people. So it's a very religious town. It's a very conservative values town, you know. And actually, in one of the documentaries I was watching, a guy who owns a place called circus skate there. Sounds like a lot of fun. And he created circus skate. And it's like a roller skating rink. That's cool.

So we're taking it way back. I used to go to a roller skating rink when I was younger. Really? I've never been to one. I've never gone to a roller skating rink. I've gone to ice skating rings. Roller skating rinks are fun. I know. They probably would be. And he created this, he said, because he wanted to have a place where all like the, you know, upstanding, you know, pure kids can have good, clean fun. That's so sweet. Which is very nice, except he's also very judgy. Oh. I'm just going to put that out there. Does he not let certain people in? Is there a password to get in here? Well, no, I don't think that's the thing. But in the, and actually this is really funny, because in the,

the documentary, he was talking about this whole, you know, this whole murder that ends up happening. And he described it as these extreme, ready, this is how, no, I'm assuming he meant anomalies. And he said, anomalies. No. Yep. That involved the occult. I don't try to deal with them. I just want them away from me and we should try to prevent it from happening in Murray, Kentucky, or any place in the civilized world.

So keep your anomalies away from me. Keep your anomalies away from me. And he was, so he was literally saying anything that is not Christian and clean. Get it out of here. We shouldn't have it anywhere in the civilized world. It's like, oh, so anyone that's different from you. Right. Like anomalies, first of all, I was dying at.

Because I was like really damn. And he said it like several times. I was like, that's not a slip of the tongue. And it's like, these people identify as vampires. Let them identify as vampires. And what if they're Satanists? Let them be Satanists. Just let them be anomalies.

Freedom of religion. God. Let them be animal. If I want to be an animal, I'm a do it. I'm a proud animali. Fuck yeah. But. That's a little digression, but I just wanted to let you know what we're dealing with here.

Rod was raised by his mother, Sondra Gibson. He never knew who his father was. According to Sandra, she met his father Rick in high school. According to her, they had the same homeroom. So, like, I'd say that's like a pretty solid foundation for compatibility to create a human life together. Yeah, right. If you don't have the same home room, I mean, what are you doing? And the relationship now?

They dated for about a year and a half before she got pregnant with Rod when she was in high school. They married shortly after, but they divorced with it a year. Oh. So Rod was barely existing at the point that he pieced. So he split before. Yeah, he grew up without a father. People actually said in this documentary that I was watching that the father never even saw Rod until he was later testifying at his murder trial.

Oh, shit. Yeah. So that sucks. Whoa. Yeah. Now, his childhood, obviously, he doesn't have a father figure, which people can get by with that, but his childhood was pretty shitty. Oh, no.

His mother was an asshole. Oh, good. Who didn't take responsibility for her child. She divorced, she married and divorced several times, and was described as, quote, flighty and rootless. She was unable to hold a job for more than a few weeks at a time. and she just outright refused to take care of him. So she would just hand him off to her parents.

So his grandparents, anytime she wanted a party, she would just hand him off. No, they were fine, but like they also didn't want to raise her child. So they were like, and she was doing this so she could go out and party. That shit. Which you had a kid. Suck it up, Buttercup. Like, it's over now. Like, you don't get to party when you want to and you, whatever.

If you have sex, you will get pregnant and die. And just so you know, that's amazing. girls quote and grace anybody does it now we don't actually believe that we don't actually believe that um so and apparently she ran with like a pretty rough crowd and whenever her father harrel would like fight with her about being like i don't like we can't take care of your child all the time she would threaten to have someone in her quote drug group kill him jesus yeah so she was a piece of shit that's rude so this is what he was living. Oh, and also, she was on probation in Kentucky for trying to entice a 14-year-old boy into a sex act. I'm violent. Well, she was doing a ritual with him to become a vampire

herself. So they were, a 14-year-old in her were drinking each other's blood, and she was trying to entice him into a sex act. Like, goodbye. And she was on probation. So this is the mother figure he has. Ew, how old was she? So so far we're not doing great. I mean, I don't know how old she was when that happened. Too old for 14. Yeah, clearly too old for 14. Girl, you're an animal. Yeah, she's an animali.

And so obviously the fact that like Rod later retreated into a fantasy world is not super surprising. Because I think he was just trying to get away. Like a coping mechanism. Yeah, it's just a coping mechanism, exactly. Gone too far. So they moved back and forth between Murray, Kentucky and Eustace, Florida a lot. Okay. So he drove.

dropped out of school, high school, and Eustace, Florida, then re-enrolled back in Murray, Kentucky. And his mother obviously didn't give a shit about structure for him at all, because she was just flitting him back and forth. So we never really had time to make good friends either. It was like he just didn't have any root. Oh, shit. I mean, I say all this, he's a piece of shit. Yes, don't feel bad. But he did have a shitty childhood. I mean, I think he was created in some way.

So as for his high school life, Rod says, quote, everything I was listening to, it was dark. It was based upon hate, war, death, pain. That's all my music, all my movies that I watched. My bedroom was an array of the darker side of the occult, such as the necronomicon, the Satanic Bible. I had upside down crosses. I had broken shards of glass laying about in the corner. I had hooks and metal cables wrapped around looking like Hellraiser. Wow.

So that's what his bedroom looked like and his mom, if his mom was like a mom, she'd be like, hey, do you want to talk about anything? You want to see like maybe therapy? Like, again, if that's what you're into, cool, just talk to me about it. Yeah. Well, and it seems like he maybe like wanted some attention. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like, maybe just talk to me.

But like, let's talk about this. You want to paint your room black? Okay, let's talk about it. Why do you want to do that? Right. You know, like, that's all it is. Just fucking talk to your kids. Let them be them.

She's just neglecting. Figure out what's going on. And if your kid wants to only watch dark shit, something's going on. Yeah, like you got to kind of. It's not just that he was painting his room black. Yeah, exactly. And he was obviously, like, getting ideas from this stuff. That's like a cry for help.

And by the way, I found it, I just want to let you guys know what the necronomicon is. Because I remember reading about it somewhere, and I don't know if everybody knows what it is. But the necromicon, necronomicon, which is what he was just saying he had in his room along with the satanic Bible and all that. It's a fictional book, sometimes referred to as the book of the laws of the dead or the book of dead names. And it was created by horror author H.P. Lovecraft. And it's used a lot in his other works. He also, other authors like August, DeRythe and Clark Aston Smith have also used, with Lovecraft's permission, that book in their works. So it's kind of been embedded into the world of fiction.

Okay. Which is kind of cool. But actually, because of this, because it went into other works as well, people believed it was real. So publishers actually published versions of it actually after his death. Oh, wow. So it's kind of like a necromancer is like a sorcerer or a wizard who summons the dead, either through messages or like zombie straight up just summoning a dead person. That's cool.

So it's kind of a long mat, same line. Just so you know what he's talking about and what he's into. So Rod was into all this stuff, and he also had another thing he was interested in. He was pretty positive that he was a 500-year-old vampire named Vasago. Well, me too. Yeah. So he was, which, like, I can barely remember what year in my 30s I'm in. And, like, you make it to 500.

And you remember exactly how old you are? Like, that seems intense to me. If I made it to your 500, I would end up being like, yeah, I'm like several hundred years old. I'm like, I'm over a hundred. I'm older than you, whoever's asking. Yeah, like, whatever. I'm just a lot of hundreds of years old. Many centuries I have seen.

Like, I would not be able to be like, I am five. Because even now, I'm like, wait, how old am I? And I'm only in my 30s. So he, this came out of him being really into a role playing game called Vampire the Masquerade. Sounds a lot like your high school years. Pretty much, except it got a lot darker. Uh-oh. This game is kind of like a Dungeons and Dragons style, where it's like a tabletop role-paying

game, and the players assume very intricate creative identities, like Dungeons and Dragons. And it's set in this modern world, but like super Gothic punk style and very full of dramatic vampires, basically. Which is fine. You want to play that. That's cool. Yeah. I played role-paying games in high school.

I didn't murder anyone. I didn't murder anyone. Like, I just didn't murder anyone. Yeah. Whatever. Join me on my raft. No, thank you. Goodbye.

No, you were a cheerleader. We already went through this. It was literally a season of cheerleading. Like you didn't, you were a cheerleader through and through. I'm a valley girl. You were a cheerleader through and through. Even if you weren't leading cheers, you were a cheerleader in high school. It's fine.

But my role-playing games didn't really go out into murderous. Yeah, it didn't really go that far. Good, I'm glad. So now this is, when he gets into this role-playing game and when he moves back to Murray, Kentucky from Eustis, Florida, during somewhere around his junior senior year of high school. Okay. This is the time when he starts to become close with a local teen who's also considers himself a vampire named Jaden. That's his vampire name. his real name is like Stephen or something I don't remember cool is this in Kentucky or is this

in Florida okay he just moved from Florida to Kentucky okay the two met in September 1995 at Callaway County High School in Murray Kentucky Rod had recently transferred like I said they were both 15 years old and they gravitated towards each other because according to Jaden like everybody wanted them to fight when he came to the high school school because it was like the two super goth kids and they were like you guys should fight like like what the fuck is it yeah and so they were like no we're not gonna fight and like rod referred to it as the freak way of life where they were wearing like trench coats combat boots like goth attire makeup you know like and um so they just kind of instead of fighting each other

like everyone wanted they were like let's be friends so in 1996 jaden invited rob to become a vampire officially. Because Jaden's way of doing this was that you had to cross over. There had to be a ritual, a blood-drinking ritual, and that's how you become a vampire. Great. So, and he also invited him to join the vampire family that he was a leader of. And it was like a handful of other like Gothic teens who considered themselves vampires. They also were super into this role-playing game, but they did it like, they would act it out in real life. Like they didn't hurt each other or anything, but they were like to, like, they were larping, literally. So this ritual that they had to go through to make Rod a vampire and bring him into the coven.

I feel like up until this point, it sounds kind of fun. Right. I mean, this is kind of like what, like I had a great childhood, so that was different. But like, and I wasn't super Gothic in school. But role-playing was fun. Yeah. So this ritual was he took Rod to the old Salem Cemetery, apparently, is where somewhere in Kentucky. it's to an old tree where, quote, all chosen ones had been made by their sires.

Where, quote, all chosen ones had been made by their sires. He handed Rod a knife. Rod cut his arm three times and had Jaden drink from it. And then according to Rod, Jaden also, like they did it back and forth. So they became vampire bros. His arm, Jaden cut his. They drank from each other. And then according to Rod, they sat in, quote, quiet.

meditation for several hours after that. Beautiful. Right. Rod said in an interview that he looked to Jaden as a father figure, which is sad. Wow, I got a little sad there. Yeah. Now, the membership into this vampire coven stressed obedience and loyalty to the coven. Oh, okay.

And basically it was like put the family's needs before anything else. Uh-oh. Which can get a little tough. Yeah, it gets a little culty. That's very culty. Jaden says now that after what, and you're going to find out what Rod did, that he's not pissed at Rod for what he did, but he's sad about what Rod did. Because he's sad he didn't know better than to murder two people in Cold Blood. So he basically is like, I thought he knew what this was about and he didn't.

Like I thought he knew what this family was about. Maybe he just took it too far. Well, that's what he's saying. Well, yeah, clearly. Maybe. Maybe he took it too far. I don't know. We can't be positive.

He took it too far. But he's like, he's basically saying like this family is about something totally different and he kind of took it somewhere else. Now, the reason that this ended up happening was Rod saw himself more as like the true antichrist. Oh. Like he saw himself. He didn't want to conform to the rules of the group.

He didn't want to have to deal with all this bullshit of like, don't hurt people. He wanted to hurt people. He wanted to hurt people. Because from what I've gathered, murder is against. vampire law just like it is against mortal law. They consider human life sacred, and this particular coven of vampires from Murray, Kentucky did cut each other and drink each other's blood, but they did it under each other's consent.

I think it varies from place to place, coven to coven, family to family. Yeah, that's... Typical. Exactly what a vampire being a vampire means is different to a lot of people. Right. But these particular ones believed in sires, like he said, which is like from Buffy, which might be where they got it, to be quite honest. Yeah, I mean, Buffy was huge at that time. It was. I like Buffy. I love Buffy. I never loped it, but I do like it. We larped it, but that's

a different story. Spike, so Spike was like my first true love. I'm bringing you back. I know you had a fucking framed picture of him on your Baird. I did. I have a signed photo from James Marsters, and Juliet Landau. Is that? Drusilla. Hell yeah. Okay, continue. So yeah. So, because I don't know if you guys know, like, I'm sure a lot of our listeners have watched Buffy. Yeah, if not, watch it. It's a good show. I think it's on Amazon. But sires are basically the person who makes you a vampire, you know, turns you. So your sire is supposed to be like an important thing. So Jaden was Rod Sire. So it wasn't long after he joined this vampire family. It went okay for a little while. But then it started getting a little darker because Rod basically wanted to be.

evil. And they were like, that's not what we're doing here. We're not evil. So apparently things were not going well at home for him around this time still. You know, everything's going on there. So one night he was walking with a couple of other members of the vampire family, including Jaden. They were attempting to, according to them, all aid each other by talking about their issues because he said we would go on walks and talk each other through things. Wow. Other than like Rob stance, this sounds great. It seems pretty wonderful, right? Good for them. Well, for now. Rod says as he's walking, he picked up a kitten along the way. No. Yeah, like trigger alert, guys. Oh, fuck, dude. Trigger. Okay, there's an animal thing about to happen. So,

skip if you don't want to hear it. I'm not going to go into detail or anything, but like, just skip it if you don't want to hear it. He was petting it. Everything was fine. Jaden said the same thing. Like, he picked it up fine. He was petting it, everything. Then the kitten clawed him. And he said he was in such a state of mind of just being rage, just enraged at everything. He said as soon as he clawed me, I turned it on its back, held it by its neck, and slung it against a tree, breaking its spinal column. Jaden described the moment as basically Rod said, hey, see this tree, and then he did it. That's what Jaden says.

He's like, I remember him saying, hey, see this tree, boom. Jaden said that this was the moment that he started pulling back from their friendship, because he was like, what the fuck. You're going to a dark place for you. Like, yeah, he said he was losing touch. with the family and what they were supposed to be about. So at this time, Rod was heavily into drugs. Oh, no.

Like acid, crank, PCP, heroin, like all the heavy hitters. What's crank? I don't know. Oh. It's crank. Crank is whack, man. Crank is crank. It's bad.

And at this point, he was, by his own admission, very out of control. Like, he said he was very out of control. No one was going to be able to tell him what to do. Shit. Again, he really didn't have a good home line. and he was really leaning into that pretty hard. So not long after the cat incident, he ended up somehow getting into an actual fight with Jaden,

like a fist fight. And Jaden, both of them say, which at first when I was reading these things and seeing the documentaries, I thought Jaden was trying to like puff his chest up and be like, because he was like, I just, it wasn't even a fight. He said he said something to me.

I lifted him up by his neck and threw him against a wall, and that was the end of it. Oh, wow. And I was like, I think you're trying to be like a tough guy. Yeah. And then Rod from Prism was like, it wasn't a fight. He literally lifted me up and threw me against a wall and that was it. So like, whoa.

So after this, Rod was banished from the family. You can't go against your sign. It just became too much. Now, he was obviously pissed about this, but he decided to form his own vampire clan. Eventually, he became the leader of a group of like pseudo-goth wannabes called the vampire clan, which needs a lot of work when it comes to branding. Yeah. I feel like that's just like.

The Vampire Clan. Like, you could have done better. Like, you can, I don't know. Work with that. Yeah. You need to branch out of that. You need to workshop that a little bit. Just.

So, a kid named Michael Schaefer was 15 at the time, and he became the first member of Rod's new family. The other new family members were Charity Kesey, age 16, Dana Cooper aged 19, and Scott Anderson, age 16. Later, Heather Wendorf, age 15. became a member. Okay. Rod became the vampiric leader and like a father. How old was he at this point? Do you know?

I believe he was 16 at this point. Oh, wow. So Dana and Heather were actually living in Eustis, Florida. They had met Rod when he was, when he was, and his mother had moved there for a short period of time. So that's how he knew them and he stayed in touch with them. Heather, who used to have a Barbie doll with a noose around its neck hanging from her backpack. Wow.

was, said she was charmed by him and claimed that he seemed much older than other kids because of the way he spoke. Which admittedly, he is very articulate. Okay. He actually sounds like a 500-year-old vampire when he talks. Like, to be quite honest, like, he's very, I don't know, it's just something about how he talks that you believe it. If you're in that way, you're going to believe him. So Rod, Charity, and Scott all planned to escape Murray. They wanted to get the hell out of there.

To Florida. Rod claims the police were trying to blame a bunch of shit that was going around town on him. Like there was an awful story. Again, trigger warning. Where in Murray, Kentucky, around this time, there was an animal shelter broken into. And a lot of puppies were stolen and murdered in like a field. Jesus. And people were saying that it was vampires who did it because in that place, they're immediately going to start persecuting them.

But, I mean, honestly, I can't say I don't believe that Rod wasn't involved. in that. So he's saying that the police immediately blamed him for that, that they were trying to blame him for other shit going around. So he was like, I got to get out of here. And his, you know, his home life was shitty, yada, yada, yada. So they planned to go to Florida. Now this is Rod, Charity and Scott. Planned to go to Florida, pick up Heather and Dana, and all of them were going to go over to New Orleans because Rod knew that there's like a flourishing society of vampires there. And then it's very accepted. And they were like, let's start our new life. So that's a great plan. Which like, whatever. Go ahead. Bye. Do you have that? So, I mean, I want to go to New Orleans,

not for that. Nalins. Just because. So Heather Wendorf was actually an old girlfriend of Rods at the time. Is she from Florida? Yes. Okay. Heather and Dana are from Florida. Okay. Sorry. No, don't worry. Rod, Charity, and Scott are from Kentucky. And they're going to get them. Yes, they're going to get Heather and Dana. Okay. So Heather was an old girlfriend of Rod's. He currently at this time was dating charity. Heather lived with her parents in Eustace Florida. Okay. Phone records showed that Heather had been contacting Rod for like several months, that they had talked a lot. And Rod claims that Heather was confiding in him and told him that she had a really bad home life. Her parents were super fucking mean and that she actually

asked him to come to Florida to kill her parents. Oh shit. This is why kids are fucking scary. Yeah, don't have kids. No, I'm just kidding. Like, Like, now I'm going to have to be on the lookout to see if one of the girls dates a vampire who I tell her to stop dating and then she has him kill me. That's like honestly. Like, that's a thing that happens. It's like actually scary. It happens when your kid is not even dating a vampire.

Exactly. Date just a regular old sicko human being. It's like some dude that you don't want your kid dating. That happens on snapped all the time. Yeah, it's not cool. There's another case of that that I want to cover eventually. I can't remember the name, but we'll do it. Whatever.

So at this, around this time, her grades had been sluged. slipping and she's, she was basically having issues just being a dick to her parents. Like she was just, she was starting to become a bad kid. And they were like, maybe don't do that. And her grades were slipping and all that. So she started being like, my parents suck. So on November 25th, 1996, Rod dropped a 10 strip of golden dragonfly acid, which means absolutely fucking nothing to me.

Does it mean anything to anyone else? Ten strips of acid, I would think, is a lot of acid. Going by context clues, I'm assuming. 10 strip acid. Typically when you take acid, I think you take it from a strip. Is that what you do? I don't even know. I think.

I've never done acid. I've never been near someone who did acid. But you don't need a lot of acid to trip fucking acid. Yeah. And he said it was golden dragonfly acid, which I'm assuming is some kind of like potent acid. I don't know different names of acid. Well, whatever. He did that.

And then he arrived. So they all arrived in Florida 12 hours later. So he was on acid when they were driving to Florida. That's terrible. He called Heather and basically was like, listen, you need to decide if you're going to join our family or not. Are you going to come with us? We're getting Dana. And that's when they were getting near her home.

The car began to break down a bit. So they decided that they were going to steal one. Because if your car breaks down, you steal one. That's what you do. You don't call AAA. Now, he says this is when the plans for that night began to like really form because they decided they were going to steal Heather's parents. Ford Explorer. Uh-oh.

Which like... Poor Heather's parents. Maybe it's because I'm a parent, but like fucking kids, man. No, that sucks. No, I don't really like kids either. That's their car. They bought that car. They work for that car.

You can't just have it. You can't just fucking have it. No, that bothers me too. Go away. And it's like, oh. So they arrive at Heather's home. Heather meets them outside of her parents' home. She gets in the car with Dana and Charity.

And they're like a little ways away from the house. Rod and Scott go towards the house while the girls are all staying in the car. Now, you're going to hear Heather's defense later, and this part to me makes it a little unbelievable that she didn't have more involved in this. Because why didn't she just take the keys from her own house if that was the plan? Like, she didn't come out with the car keys. She was like, oh, Rod and Scott go in and get them. Yeah, that's dumb.

Why would you do that? Like, why would you send two boys you don't even know, really, into your parents' house? And it would just be like less. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. None of it makes sense. Yeah. Like if you just, you could easily just take your parents.

Just take it and walk out the door. Yeah. This was, because I think this is around 9 p.m. So they're like starting to turn in for the night. Right. So before they did this, they had,

he and Heather had to have quote an embrace, which is his term. A hug. No, very different. Oh. His term for crossing over, which is the drinking of the blood and becoming the vampire. So Heather had to drink his blood, he had to drink hers.

Before he went inside. This was in a local cemetery. Yeah, like before he would do this, he was like, yo, I got to make you a vampire first. So, because priorities. For sure, I mean. And you got to cross those teas and dot those eyes before you go in and murder her parents. If you guys are just walking around everywhere, why don't you just hop on a fucking bus? You don't need a car.

It doesn't make sense. So Rod claims that Heather was asked to leave the garage. door open from outside and into the home and that she did for them okay she said that didn't happen but I think she was lying okay this is just me so this is around 9 p.m. Rod and Scott circled the house and looked in all the windows to see where the Wendorf were Naomi Wendorf her mother was in the shower and Richard her father was laying on the couch in the family room asleep never lay on the couch sleeping always on the couch yeah don't do that Couches are for sitting.

When you're awake and alert, they're not for sleeping. No. Don't sleep. No. Don't sleep on that couch. It's going to hurt your back anyways. It is. It's going to hurt your bed.

Sleep on your Casper mattress. Sleep on your Casper mattress that are not getting paid for. Come on, Casper. Please. So Rod said, quote, we had sticks, just wooden sticks in our hands. I didn't know how big her father was and I was slightly worried about that. And I knew a grown man could smash me to the ground without a second thought. So obviously this is just a second thought.

steal a car, right? Yeah, why are you already thinking about that? Like, he's already, this, none of it makes, he's already bringing a weapon into the house. And you're just trying to steal a car. Again, why wouldn't Heather just take the keys herself and walk out of this house? It doesn't make sense. So Rod and Scott entered the garage area. With their sticks. With their sticks. And then according to him, he said, we realized we needed a bigger weapon. Because obviously, to steal our car. So in Rod's words, quote, I see an axe. I'm, oh, there's an axe. I'm, oh, there's an axe. It's been done before. Chainsaw, that's too loud. That's when I found a crowbar. It was something I knew I could swat somebody away with and run if I had to. So he grabs the crowbar. Okay. I love that he's like,

that's been done before. I want to be different. Yeah, when I murder these people, not when I steal their fucking car. Not when I steal their car. Like, that is stupid. No, it doesn't make any sense. So, I'm getting angry. I'm getting riled. So then they entered the home from an old washroom, because I was all open, because Heather left it open. They walked straight past the father lying asleep on the couch. According to Rod, the TV was cranked super high, so he didn't

stir or hear them. That'd be me. When he did start to wake up a bit, Rod hit him in the temple with the crowbar and knocked him out cold. Jesus. Instead of just going about his business, he then decided that he would be in trouble if he woke up, so he just, quote, beat him until he died.

What? Seems. justified right he then amended that story shortly after in the same conversation where he's talking about the same interview that i saw where he said well he wouldn't stop breathing so i took the bottom of the crowbar and stabbed him in the chest at the end oh my god so he literally took the crowbar and beat him in the head until he thought he was dead then he wouldn't stop breathing so he said he took the crowbar and stabbed him in the chest. Jesus.

According to Rob, he said he had no idea how many times he hit him. Police would later determine it was more than 20 times. Oh, my God. He was left soaking in his own blood. His face was completely unrecognizable, and there was a gaping hole in his head. Holy shit. There's autopsy photos of these poor people in the crime scene photos, and they're horrific. How do you do that?

These poor people. So the other member who came with him, Scott, The other dude that's with him was shocked, according to Rob. Rod, sorry. He said, quote, he stood frozen, stock still. He was scared to death. He'd never seen anything like that. Never seen a death.

Never seen even really any extreme violence. He was stunned. Now, yeah. I'm sure he was stunned by that, but for him to say he's never seen extreme violence is not true because Scott's father was an abusive alcoholic who beat his mother. Oh. So that's the home he came from.

That's awful. So I'm sure he did see extreme violence. Not like that, I guess, but still. Now, this is when Rod said they performed a death dance and gleefully danced around Richard's slaughtered body on the couch. What the fuck? It's a death dance. According to Rod, he said, quote,

in a childish manner, Scott and I ambitiously danced around his body before he was dead. What is ambitious dancing? Like, what? And also, if Scott is so shocked, why is he ambitiously dancing? Exactly. Now, Rod, now, as to how he felt about this, Rod said, just strangely enough, it was a rush, a teenager's rush,

just to know that he was asleep and did not know that we held his fate in our hands. Like, go fuck yourself, buddy. Right? Gross. Now, after he's done this, they went into the parents' bedroom and looked for the car keys. They couldn't find them initially, where Heather said they were. Now, this is when Heather's mother Naomi came into the kitchen area. holding a cup of coffee and wearing a robe from the shower. She was just coming out of the shower.

Rod says that she immediately started to lunch at him and threw her hot coffee at him. Which good for her. Well, and she probably thought he was an intruder because she doesn't know who the fuck he is an intruder. Well, exactly. That's exactly it. So she's like, get the fuck out of my house.

So she then clawed his face and grabbed his wrists. That's when he took the straight end of the crowbar and started in his words, quote, bashing the back of her head. Oh, my God. He said the entire time she was holding on to him and her nails were embedded in his face. And he said, quote, until she let go, I was going to beat the fuck out of her. Oh, my God.

Yeah. So he's a good guy. He then went back into the bedroom and he says, quote, so I grabbed a pearl necklace off the stand that belonged to her mother. I grabbed a hunting knife that was in the drawer from her father. I found the keys in the dish on the drawer. I grabbed Scott and we ran out the door. So this was just to get a car, right? Yeah, this was just a other car.

No, that was a thrill kill. Now, Heather's 17-year-old sister Jennifer came home from work soon after to find her parents that way. Oh, my God. She immediately called the police, obviously. Detective Al Gousier now retired, but he was then the lead investigator on the case. He was on the Lake County Sheriff's Office, and he was the first one on the scene. He said, quote, I've never seen anything worse. It was very gruesome situation.

That was probably the worst case I have or will ever have. Jeez. Now, they took off in the Ford Explorer that they stole, and there was a nationwide manhunt at this point, so they were trying to take long, like, out-of-the-way routes to New Orleans where they were headed. Rod says they dumped the murder weapon and all the evidence they could think of in the Mississippi River. Then he took his bloody clothes off at a gas station. In between Eustace and Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where they eventually were arrested.

Oh, wow. They were actually pulled over by police five times, according to Rod. For what? Now, how could they stop five times and not be arrested? Rod thinks they got away with it because, in his words, they were expecting a teenage cult-looking psychopath, and instead, I was speaking to them with every courtesy. I already had my story set up. I had already told the others were college students from Texas or Iowa.

Wow. So he was just being very like... Why couldn't he pick between Texas and Iowa? I don't really know. Maybe depending on where they were. Oh. I don't know. But yeah, it's like those are weird places.

Yeah, right. We are from Texas or Iowa. I'm not sure. I haven't quite decided. When they ended up reaching Baton Rouge, Rod's girlfriend, Charity, called her family, and they called the police.

They traced the numbers. Did Charity say what happened? I'm not sure if she told her family what happened. I think she just called them and was like, this is where we are, and her parents called the police to be like, my kid has run away. And so, because they're pretty far from home now. But so the police were able to trace the number to a motel where all five of them were arrested

just three days after the murders on Thanksgiving Day. Wow. Also, at that young, how do you fucking have money to, like, stay in a motel? I don't think they really did. They probably, well, they stole stuff from the house. Oh, they probably had that money. Yeah, and who knows if they stole money there, too. But after being arrested for double homicide in a police surveillance video, Rod and Charity can be seen passionately making out in their holding cell before being extradited back to Florida.

What? Yeah. That's gross. So they were super remorseful, just so you know. Now, Rod immediately confessed. He told, he said, I murdered them on my own. Wow. I did it.

And he said he actually wanted his followers to go free. Like, he's a special kind of phone. up. Yeah. Now, detectives did finally get charity to admit she knew of the plan to kill Heather's parents. Oh, so it was premeditated. So it was premeditated. I knew it. But she claimed she tried to persuade Rod and Scott not to do it. Well, yeah, of course. To keep your little ass out of jail. Dana Cooper told the police the same exact thing. Now, Scott admits his role in the killing and said, quote, I was going to go for the father and he was going to go for the mother. But when I saw him make the first blow, I just couldn't. Wow. So, Heather is still, I don't know. I want to hear what people

think about Heather. Maybe. Well, she's a little bitch. She's suspect to me. She said to police on camera and interrogation, I remember telling him flat out, don't even go near my parents, because he asked me not too long ago if I wanted my parents dead or alive, and I told him straight out, I want them alive. When we steal the car. And none of, it's exactly. And the story doesn't make sense, because you didn't know that your car was going to break down. Exactly. And it's like if you, if this whole thing was to steal a car or something like that, it's like, first of all, this kid has already asked you, do you want your parents dead?

Why are you letting him into your house without, with your parents? He's already proven that he has a fucked up mindset. Yeah. And it's like, so I don't know. I don't believe that you were just like, no, I think this whole thing was planned. No, I want them alive. Like, even if you've said it in passing, you've said it to the wrong person. Like, yeah.

Like, come on. So, Dana kind of backs Heather up. She says Heather didn't even know Rod had murdered her parents until they were on their way to New Orleans. And according to her, she said, quote, charity told her right as we were getting ready to leave Florida while we were basically leaving the county. She started freaking out really bad. Oh. So to me, that could indicate that no, she didn't know, or it could indicate that it suddenly was real. It hit her.

Yeah. Yeah. That all of a sudden. Or she was acting. Yeah, shit. I don't know. Because maybe she wanted to keep her own shit together so she could say later that she had no idea. Right.

And Rod isn't going to throw her under the bus because Rod is apparently not throwing any of them under the bus. He's just saying it was him. That's so bizarre. So I think it might have been she knew about it. Maybe she didn't believe he'd actually do it. Maybe this was more of that like fantasy world kind of thing. Yeah. Maybe when she was told that it happened, it hit her that it was real.

She knew it was going to happen, but she didn't fully understand the consequences and the fact that her parents were fucking dead. Exactly. So there's that. Wow. So how about sentencing? So Heather denies hating or being mistreated by her parents at all. Oh.

Which again seems suspect to me. Yeah, no, that definitely does. So it's like, at least say that you were like a bitchy little teenager who didn't like your parents at the time. Yeah. Like all of us. fucking, no one believes that you weren't mad at your parents at some point.

Exactly. So she was ultimately exonerated by a grand jury. Oh, wow. That's wild. They said she was not aware of the plan to murder her mom and dad, and she was never charged for anything. Wow. Let go immediately.

I'm surprised by that. Al Gousier, the one believed detective on the case, said he remembers interviewing Heather days after her parents were killed, and he said he asked her, just how many vampires are in Eustace, Florida. And he says that, he says, and she just sat back, folded her arms, and said, you'd be surprised. To me, that doesn't seem like somebody who just lost. It's mourning the death of their parents. And again, I'm not, I always say I never want to judge how people react to things because

we all react to things differently. But at that young, and your parents are brutally murdered. But if you're sitting there with your arms crossed and being like, you'd be surprised. Like, you don't seem like you're wrapped up in this awful tragedy that you got yourself involved in. Like, you seem like you're being pretty cocky. Well, that's the thing. It's like very cocky. Yeah.

And she later said she actually edited her own Wikipedia page because she said it was lying about her being involved. So she's like actively trying to get rid of any. Well, why are you looking at your own Wikipedia page? Now, Charity Kesey and Dana Cooper each pled guilty to being principals to third degree murder, armed burglary and principles to armed robbery. Charity was sentenced to 10 and a half years. Wow. Well, Dana got 17 and a half years. Why did Dana get more?

I'm not really sure. Was she older? She might have been. Maybe age has something to do with it? Well, age has a lot to do with it later. Dana was released from Florida's Panhandle prison in 2011, and Charity was released in 2006. So did they serve?

So they live in their lives. But did they serve full sentences? No, I don't think they served the full sentence. But they served, like, a good amount of time. Yeah, they served a good amount of time, I guess, but I don't know. They're out here now. Scott Anderson pled guilty to being a principal to first-degree murder and was sentenced to life without parole. Wow.

Rod Farrell was sentenced to death. Oh, shit. I think your family failed you. I think society failed you. But I also am here to tell you. And he considered judgment of this court, they troubled and disturbed you. cannot serve as an excuse for cold-blooded, premeditated murder. The sentence was later commuted a life without parole because Rod was just 16 at the time,

and still a juvenile, when he committed the murders. The U.S. Supreme Court declared life without parole unconstitutional for juveniles, and in 2015, the state Supreme Court ruled all juvenile killers with automatic life sentences must be resentenced. So did he, so he got resentenced that? Yeah, so, well, he's in the process of being resentenced, him and Scott. Is it still possible to get life, though, if your crime was bad enough? I think it, yeah, I'm pretty sure it is now. They just need you to take a second look at it.

But it also means, unfortunately, Rod also got now one of the top criminal defense attorneys in the state assigned to him. Oh, damn. How did that happen? His name is Terence Lenneman of Miami, and it basically means that after only a little more than 20, like over 20 years, in prison. Rod could be free. Like that day. Yeah. And he knows this. He knows he could do, he could end up serving like time served. And eventually, because I did hear that they were supposed to do these sentencings.

I believe last year or this year in March and they kept getting pushed back. And it was really hard. I've been looking up like trying to find updates on it. So so far nothing's been happening with it. So they're both still in prison. So they're still both still in prison. And neither one of them. have been resentenced as far as I can tell. That is coming up, though. They are going to get a resentence hearing. And if they come in there and they decide you can, time served, he can walk out of there

that day. Wow. So Rod Farrell, who beat two elderly people to death for literally no reason at all. So does he express any kind of remorse or anything like that now? Or is he just like, yeah, so that happened? No. He doesn't at all. And actually, he knows.

that he could get out soon. And according to him, quote, I have a woman, I have a job waiting on me, I even have a cat and dog waiting. What? Like go fuck yourself. Also, who would hire him? He also says that nothing could have stopped this, and if it wasn't the Wendorf's,

then it probably would have been someone else and probably more people. So if he gets out, he's probably going to kill more people. He said, quote, when I killed those people, I felt a rush. I felt I was a god. But I guess if I was a god, I wouldn't be here. today now, would I?

That's scary that he could get out. And it's funny. They need to look at those statements before they resentence him. Well, and you wonder if, like, his followers were just, like, really shocked to see that he got caught in sentence? Because he's supposed to be a 500-year-old vampire. Yeah. I'm sure they were probably, like, Rod.

Isn't he going to get some way out of that? Why didn't you just explode into a thousand bats and get out of here? Like, you know what I mean? Like, they were probably like, shit. Maybe this isn't for real, Zee. real, like, real life. Like, he's, and I'm sure he thought that. Maybe he thought he could just explode into a thousand bats and leave.

Yeah, I don't know. It's got to be a, it's a harsh reality when you realize you can't do that. I wish I could do that sometimes. Like, but then, like, in awkward social life. Its situations just burst into bats and then we'll just be like, bye. And then when people ask me, it would be like, what are you talking about? I think you're insane. I'd be like, listen to what you're saying.

You're like, come on. Come on. Really? But that's got to be a harsh reality when all of a sudden you're like, oh, I'm not a 500-year-old vampire who can get out of this. Well, maybe he still thinks he's a 500-year-old vampire, but there's no way that... He does to this day. He can get out. Well, he still must be older now. He no, he's not older. What? He's just, he's stopped. He stopped aging. Well, yeah, that happens. You know, I've heard. You're like, he must be older now. Like, 20 years late, he must be

older. Well, I mean, I guess I was wrong. No, he's still 16. Uh, his wonderful mother moved to Florida to be close with him. So now that he's behind bars, she's being a doating mother. She's like, I'm going to take care of you. She visits them every week and she says, Rod blows her a kiss every time she leaves so cute. What? Rod said, and as for the murders when you talk to Rod now, he says, ah, they don't really cross my mind much because it's like any other thing I've done in my life.

It's happened. It's over. Oh, okay. As for Heather, in case you wanted to know, Heather moved to North Carolina and tried going by the name Zoe for a bit, but people were like, nah, you're Heather Wendorf. Like, you're that girl. Yeah. And a lot of people think she had a lot to do with it. I think she does. Her family also didn't want anything to do with her after this, so... Imagine being her sister? She was placed in foster care, like a foster, with a foster family after the murders, because nobody in her family would take her. I wouldn't want to foster her. Oh, I would

not want her anywhere near. I'd be like, you're going to get us killed. And honestly, according to her, in an interview I read, her sister forgives and her. her sister and her talk and I'm like, fuck you. If that was me, I'd be like literally never. Like you took my parents. Yeah, it's her fault. Whether she did it by your own hand or not, it's your fault. You brought this dude into our lives.

Wow, that's so fucked out. But now she's married and she's an artist and you can Google her, Heather Wendorf. And you can find, I think it's Heather Wendorf Kelly now actually. It might be. I might be wrong, but I think that's it. And I think she does like art exhibitions and stuff.

Damn. Yeah. Don't want her art. Yeah. Rod is kind of like a angstier version of Edmund Kemper, where he likes to talk. Ugh. And he likes to talk about, you know, how he doesn't give a shit and how... That's nice.

It didn't bother him to do that and how he felt great about it and all that good stuff. So he has like zero remorse. Now I'm just Satan himself. If it wouldn't have been the Windorf's. At the rate I was going, it would have been somebody, if not more people. And apparently, now, I posted photos online, I'll post some more because of all the people involved on the Instagram. But when this happened, he had, like, long, like really long black hair. Of course.

That was, like, shaved on one side and all that good stuff. And now he's, like, straight up bald. And I'm like, huh. So being a 500-year-old vampire couldn't stop the balding. Yeah. Like, seems like you're, like, you're mortal. Does he think he's immortal? I don't know if he thinks he's immortal.

Does being 500 years old make you immortal? I feel like when you think you're 500 years old, you're like, I think I'm going to go the distance. Like, if you get to 500, you're close. I don't think I would want to get to 500. I'll get to 500 if it means, like, if I can, like, maintain my, you know, autonomy. That's like the age of Adeline. Sure. I don't want to do that.

I mean. If everybody else can be 500 with me. Yeah. Like everybody that loved. Because she was like really old. Yeah. Like I don't want like really young and like everybody else died. Yeah.

That's not cool. Yeah. And like the government was like, hmm. Like gone on her butt about it. Because like you know the government would capture you. You know the government when you're an immortal. Yeah. Like you know how that goes.

It's so hard. It's a tough life for immortals. It is. Fucking government. But yeah. So that's the, the Wendorf murders. The vampire cult murders and rod.

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