Morbid - Ronald Dominique: The Bayou Strangler (Part 2)

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

(Part 2) In the spring of 2005, law enforcement officials in southern Louisiana had a growing number of murder victims they had begun to suspect were connected to an unidentified serial killer operating in the area. The victims were all men, mostly in their twenties and thirties, many had histories of drug and alcohol abuse or were known to police as sex-workers, and all had been strangled and dumped in secondary locations.Over the course of a decade, Ronald Dominique developed into one of the worst and most prolific serial killers in American history; yet his story and those of his victims remains largely unknown and ignored by the mainstream media. Thank you to the Incredible Dave White of Bring Me the Axe & 99 Cent Renal Podcasts for research!ReferencesAlford, Jeremy. 2005. New information coming soon in local murders. August 24. Accessed March 29, 2023. https://www.houmatoday.com/story/news/2005/08/24/new-information-coming-soon-in-local-murders/27020266007/.Armstrong, Shell. 2007. Dominique pleads not guilty to 9 murders. January 17. Accessed March 29, 2023. https://www.houmatimes.com/news/dominique-pleads-not-guilty-to-9-murders/.Associated Press. 2005. "Man found in Lafource Parish was from Houma area." Abberville Meridional, May 3: 2.—. 2005. "Deaths od five south Lousiana men may be linked, police say." Shreveport Times, April 25: 12.—. 1999. "La. deaths may be work of serial killer." Shreveport Times, June 23: 5B.—. 2006. "Police look for links between serial suspect, priest's death." Shreveport Times, December 9: 22.—. 2006. "Arrest made in serial-killer investigation." Town Talk, December 2: 17.—. 2006. "Serial murder suspect was average Joe, says shelter residents." Town Talk, December 3: 8.DeSantis, John. 2006. Accused lived on the fringe of two worlds. December 4. Accessed March 26, 2023. https://web.archive.org/web/20210128012212/https://www.houmatoday.com/article/DA/20061204/News/608089983/HC.Hunter, Michelle. 2006. "Serial-killer suspect confesses; Trysts led to rapes, strangling, cops told." Times-Picatune, December 6.L'observateur. 1999. Beaten teen’s body discovered in Kenner. October 26. Accessed March 27, 2023. https://www.lobservateur.com/1998/10/26/beaten-teens-body-discovered-in-kenner/.—. 1999. Two deaths reclassified as murders in St. Charles Parish. Fdebruary 6. Accessed March 27, 2023. https://www.lobservateur.com/1999/02/06/two-deaths-reclassified-as-murders-in-st-charles-parish/.Morris, Robert. 2006. Mother protests dead son’s link to serial killer. June 19. Accessed March 26, 2023. https://web.archive.org/web/20210131004921/https://www.houmatoday.com/article/DA/20060619/News/608089995/HC.Ramage, James. 2005. "Serial killer theory floats around cases." Shreveport Times, May 15: 1.Rosen, Fred. 2017. The Bayou Strangler. New York, NY: Open Road Media.—. 2018. Uncovering the Truth Behind One of the Bayou Strangler’s Victims. April 10. Accessed March 27, 2023. https://the-line-up.com/uncovering-the-truth-behind-one-of-the-bayou-stranglers-victims.St. Charles Heral-Guide. 2006. Mother’s tears for son killed by serial madman Dominique. 12 06. Accessed March 27, 2023. https://www.heraldguide.com/tragedy/mothers-tears-for-son-killed-by-serial-madman-dominique/.The Daily Review. 2002. "Houma man's body found." Daily Review, October 17: 6. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello there, weirdos. I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is Morbid. We're going to do like an ASMR version of Morbid. Are we? No, we're not. I'm also going to put my headphones on. I was trying to do this. I was trying to do this like really weird and not have my headphones on, but it's not working. It's fine. Yeah, I tried last night actually when we recorded to not have my headphones on and I did it for the whole episode. But then today I was like, I don't want that. Yeah, it's too weird. We can't switch it up.

No, I'm in the habit of it. We're trying to be crazy. We're trying to throw caution to the wind, and it just doesn't work that way. No, I don't like it. So, yeah, nothing happened between now and the last time we recorded. No, because it's literally been less than 24 hours. So you know what? Here we are.

Hello. And this is one that I found, like, kind of accidentally this case. I was looking for, like, a spooky play. or I was looking, because I was just like in the mood to do something weird. Yeah. So I was like, you know, I'm going to do some weird phenomenon. I'm going to do a cryptid. I'm going to do something like that.

So I was looking, looking, looking. I found a couple that I can't wait to do. Okay. Exciting. But then I happened to just like, this was just, I can't even remember exactly where I found it. But when I saw it, I was like, it called you. Hello. It was like, come to me, Ginger.

I was like, hello darkness, my old friend. Oh, I wanted to sing a wild friend part to hang loose. with you again. So today we're, that is what they say. Come to chill with you. I've come to hang to the extreme with you again. So today we are going to be talking about Michael Malloy. Oh, I know Michael Malloy. I know this story. You don't know Michael Maloy. Okay. I can tell you. All right. Who is he? Is he the guy that like he died in a bar or something or like got like gotten some like crazy bar fight and he just like wouldn't die? Yes. Yeah. You do know him. I do know him. Wow. I'm I'm so impressed.

Oh, my God. And that's why we drank did an episode on him. Did they really? Yeah, like way back in the day. Oh, I didn't even know that. That's crazy. Well, he's also called Mike the Durable or Iron Mike. I love that.

And I did find a really good book about this case, and it is called Hold Please. Oh, why is it called? It's called Hold Please. So it's called On the House. On the House. And it's by Simon Reed. and it's really good, really in depth, because this case, at first I was like, oh, I'm not finding like a whole lot about him, a whole lot about the guys who did it. And I was like, oh, maybe this isn't

like a full episode. A TBT to a mini episode. And then I found Simon Reed's book. And I was like, whoa. You were like jackpot. There is only a fraction of the information that I got from it. So I will, of course, link it like we always do. But I highly suggest that you guys go get this book because it is fascinating. And he writes it really well too because he'll put in like his own little narrations of things. It's just really good. I like when people do that. So it's not just like, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it's not just like, and then this happened and then this happened. And the things he found out, I'm like, how the hell did you find that out? Because this was like crazy long ago. It was from the 30s. So it's like, that's a long time. It's a long time ago.

I got more time. You know, a great discussion and all that stuff. So, yeah. So Michael Malloy, Mike was an Irishman. He was living in New York City during the 20s and 30s. He was formerly a firefighter, which is interesting because of how he ended up. No one knows fully what his birthday is. Love that.

I love how mysterious that is of him. Yeah, like it's just like people know that he was like around a certain age. A lot of sources claimed he, was 60 years old. That's what a lot of people thought. But on insurance papers, he was marked as 47 years old. And when you find out what his life is, he probably looked 60. But he probably definitely was in his 40s, I would think. Damn. Yeah, he lived like not goals. He lived hard. He definitely did. He was originally from Donegal, Ireland. Donagall. I don't think I said it right. I'm sorry, my ancestors. But he drank.

a lot. All time. Like the club was going up on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and maybe even an extra day. He created another day for the club is what he did. As soon as you said that, I was like, I don't know what that means, but I think it means you drank a lot. And if that's the case, then yes, that is what Michael Malloy did. He drank a lot in the club, all that good stuff. And, you know, he was just kind of drifting. When I, I know we just joked about him drinking, but like he was a full-blown alcoholic to the point where he was in there literally 12 hours at a time, just drinking from sunup to sundown. That's very sad. And then he would kind of just, like I said, before, he was a firefighter at one point, but when he lost that job, he just kind of drifted. And he would do odd jobs here and there.

he would like sweep the streets and you know just kind of do anything that he could make a couple dollars here and there but every single scent he made just went to drinking I wonder if it was like he lost the job the firefighting job because of drinking or if it was like he saw some shit while on the job and like left and like turn to drinking to get through it it seems to me like he is a lifelong alcoholic really because the way he goes hard at it you this is one of those like you've been doing it for a long time yeah long long time like in in a net respect, if he was 60 years old, I don't even think I would be that shocked by it, to be honest, because I just don't, I've never heard of anybody drinking like this. It's truly outrageous.

So the other players in this that we're going to talk about are Anthony Tony Marino, Francis Pasquois, and Daniel Kreisberg. Let's just say Pasquois forever. Pasquale. I don't even know if that's how you say it, but he's a giant dick, so it really doesn't matter. And also I just like saying Pasquale. And those are the three like main players, but there's going to be a lot of other names. So I'll try to keep everybody with it.

And I'll bear with you. Exactly. So first let's talk about Tony Marino because he's the main guy here. Let's talk about him. He was 27 years old and he owned up speakeasy because again this is like prohibition times and all that. I love speakeasy. His speakeasy was at 3775 3rd Avenue in the Bronx. It was in rough shape.

Okay. This was definitely like a thrown together kind of speak-easy situation. This was not one of those like Great Gatsby speakeasy's where like, you know, everything's fancy. Yeah, knock three times and turn this fancy key. And then you come in and like, hey, come on in. It was like body slam the door open and like maybe we might have some alcohol left. Like come in peeing all over the place and you're welcome here.

Let's get it. I think they actually had a bathroom in the place that was only separated by. by like a curtain. Iconic. From the rest of the room. And then like the room itself was this tiny little dirty, nasty place. It was just really gross. I feel like I want to go there.

Just to see it. I don't want to go there. Just to see it. After reading so much about this, I'm like, I don't want anything to do with this place. Like that place has seen some shit. Some shit. He also, Tony Marino, he was not an appealing character at all. No.

He's kind of the worst. He's terrible. every way. Like I really have nothing good to say about him. And on top of everything, he also, he was like riddled with venereal diseases. He had like syphilis, which is not in and of itself a bad thing. But what he does next with them is a bad thing. Because when you have a venereal disease, you should tell your partners. Correct. Your future partners. And if you don't, you're a dick. Absolutely. That's just that. That's not okay. And so he had syphilis. He had a ton of other ones. and he described himself as always having a case of a clap or blue balls.

Oh my God. Yeah. And there was no in between either he was blue ball in it or the clap, which it's like, whoa. What? You, that's a whole vibe. He's really going to him right there. He's really going for it. He was married, but he wasn't happily married.

I guess not. Because, again, he was a giant asshole, and that's hard to be married to. He never told his wife, Eleanor, about his whole self. situation. And he, you know, he can pass it to her, which he likely did. I'm not sure if he did. I'm not going to call her out like that. But like he likely, something happened because she did find out only when she was pregnant in going to the doctors. The doctor was, so I'm assuming something happened there that she found out that way. Yeah, that's terrible. He was also abusive and miserable to her. So Tony's like a real gem. Fuck you, Tony. She said, fuck you Tony. And she said, quote,

he once put the stove into the hall and proceeded to smash the furniture with an axe and then ran into the street with the axe in his hand. On numerous occasions, he became so violent that it was with difficulty that we were able to restrain him. On several occasions, he threatened to turn the gas on in our room and kill the baby and myself. Jesus. So Marino is a real gem of a guy. Yeah, fucked up, dude. Yeah, such a peach.

But hey, there is childhood head trauma. Okay, so that explains. So there's that. I was looking for it. While I was reading this, I was like, you might tell me this kid hit his head sometime. I need some form of explanation. Because you're truly the worst. He claims, he says, that when he was 12 years old, he fell down floor, four flights of stairs at his home, which I have a couple of questions about. One, how. Two, you had four flights of stairs. in your home. Maybe an apartment building. But like you fell down the mall. All of them at once. There's

no landing between the flights of, like you just straight down four flights. That's a lot. I don't know. I mean, maybe. It makes sense, I guess. Maybe he was exaggerating a little bit. I think he was exaggerating a little bit. Something did happen because he ended up with a concussion and he had a little scar to show for it. Okay. His family and people who knew him at the time did say that his manner and personality did change after this accident. Oh, that's like a little bit sad. A little bit, yeah. they said he stopped caring about things like school. He didn't want to listen to rules. He didn't, he was acting out terribly. He actually made his younger siblings steal things for him from stores. And if they didn't do it, he would just beat the shit out of them. All right. Yeah. He got in a ton of fights

was super violent, just a giant asshole. He got tossed from school in sixth grade. Wow. Commitment to the cause. Halfway there. Living on a prayer and he didn't get out. Living on something. He was partying a time. He was partying a time. and drinking a lot. He would play a game also where he would offer someone less fortunate than he, some money. And then when they would go to take it, he would either push them down or step on their hands. Why? Which is bold for a guy who we find out later has to murder someone for some pocket change.

So that's a real bold move of you. For you to be being that asshole-ish to people who are- My empathetic self can't handle that. Yeah, it's a real dick move. So he had initially not been able to hold a job down like through his teens and early 20s. Why? Yeah, I don't know. Like, because he sounds so like with it and so responsible and like a really nice guy.

Like he'd have a really good resume. You would think his coworkers would, he would just be a dream to work with. Yeah. Weirdly enough he wasn't. He was just floating around from job to job. And then somehow, and I'm not really sure how he managed to open up a like crappy little speakeasy in Harlem with like a partner. Oh.

Don't know how it happened. Don't know how he got someone to hang around him that long or how any of this happened. Misery loves company. Well, and also his partner apparently didn't really know him that well before opening it. So I think this was one of those like maybe they were sitting in a bar and they were like, let's open a speakeasy to get him. You like to drink? Me too. This will be fun because he ended up, his partner ended up leaving the partnership and just quit.

Yikes. And he said that he was, quote, disgusted with him. Oh, I wonder what happened. So something happened. Yeah. So then that place. immediately went under because, of course, Marino is not capable of handling shit himself. No.

And again, not really sure. But then he opened another speakeasy, the one that we are going to be talking about. This speakeasy that we're talking about was unnamed and it was in the Bronx. All right. And it becomes the scene for all of this. Uh-oh. His wife, actually, Eleanor did leave him at one point in 1931. And she was urging him to, one, get treatment for his temper.

Yeah. She was like, you, I'm not dealing with this shit anymore. And she was also like, you should probably get treated for syphilis because it can affect your mental health. Can it kill you? It can. And it can make you like violent and stuff. So she was like, you should probably get it checked out.

Yeah. Because he like wouldn't go to a doctor to get it fixed. It's like that with like a TBI like together. Yeah. It's like there's just a lot. So the doctor, he did go to a doctor. And the doctor said he had tons of stuff going on down there. He was like, this guy hasn't been to a doctor in a long time.

And he was like, he's also in need of like psychological treatment because he's got severe anger issues and he needs to get them checked out. Yeah. But Marino was like, no. I'm fine. Yeah. He was like, I'm fine, Eleanor. I'm living. Get out of here.

So his wife moved out. She was like, I'm not going to deal with this. And they were still married. And she was like, I do want to work things out with you if you get things under control. Sounds like a very understanding. Yeah. She was just trying to keep the, you know, she was trying to keep the family together. But in the meantime, he met a patron who came into his bar all the time named Maybel Carlson.

What a bomb name. Right. She was blonde. She was pretty. She was a hairdresser. Bitch. Was it, Ash, who walked into this bar? No.

No. No, it was not. No. The answer is no. No. I was going to let that one. I was going to let that be a joke for a second, but the answer is no. The answer is not.

Absolutely not. No, no, especially not. She had also fallen on some, like, kind of hard financial times. She was a heavy drinker herself. Not me. So she was in that speakeasy quite. You're like, no, not me. I don't know her.

So she was in this speakeasy quite a bit. She was actually from a very wealthy New York City family. She had married like a really wealthy guy. She had moved to D.C., but then she ended up divorcing that guy and she had come back to New York. And obviously New York, especially at this time, was not very inviting if you were falling on financial. hard times. No? So yeah. So he sees her. He takes a liking to her and he decides to invite her to stay in his home. No, thank you. Now again, he's married and his wife has moved out because she wants to work things out with him but wants to give him space to. Right. And he has now brought another woman to live into the house. Not good. Yeah. So his wife at the time was like,

um, excuse me? Like that's not okay. You can't. live with another woman while we're trying to work on our marriage. Correct. That's not okay. But she said he would just explode at her and basically try to attack her. Yeah. It sounds like she just wasn't going to get anywhere with him. Yeah.

So she basically was like, fuck off. And she just moved out for good with her, with their one year old son. Oh. So March 17th, 1932, police were called to Marino's home where Maybell was still staying. Mm-hmm. They found Maybel dead in bed. Oh, no. Marino said he got home the night of.

before and he just thought she was sleeping. Yeah, they usually are. Just sleeping very soundly. And the medical examiner said she had bronchial pneumonia. It was terminal. It was acute and she, it was also acute and chronic. So they said that she had like a really bad case of pneumonia that she had probably had for a few days. Okay.

That was what she died of. But he also noted that there were several bruises that were covered with quote, and this is what it said in the report, flesh powder. Oh, my goodness. That's a really funny way to say that. I know flesh powder. I'm never going to not think of that when I do my makeup. I feel like every time I'm going to be like, hold on John one second. I just have to put on my flesh powder.

I don't have any flesh powder on today. I don't know if you noticed. And it's weird. Yeah. It's weird not to help flesh powder on. I don't need it. She was clearly though, unfortunately, she was clearly being abused. Yeah, obviously.

She had a black eye. She had several like bruises on her body in like several different stages of healing. Oh, maybe. And weirdly, Marino was the beneficiary on her $2,000 life insurance payout. And they didn't stay together at a very long time. No, no. And technically it's like they were just kind of like having a thing. And he was just kind of like trying to give her a place to stay while also like clearly having intentions.

But yeah, turns out later, the truth did come out about this later. She did have pneumonia and was very ill for a couple of days. But that wasn't it. But it was discovered that Marino had literally force-fed alcohol down her throat because she was too weak to even hold a cup. Oh my goodness. And until she was completely incapacitated, then he put her in bed, moved to the bed under an open window. That's not good for pneumonia. Oh, you know what else is not good for pneumonia?

Pouring ice water over the entire bed in the mattress. How does your brain even think to be that able? And then wrapping her in a freezing wet, cold sheet. Oh, my God. This poor woman. Until she died. And that's how she died. What the fuck?

So this is who Marino is. There was also at this same. So that's Tony Marino. That's a little overview of him. Oki dokey. At his bar, he had a lot of patrons that came in all the time. And a lot of them were like severe alcoholics and were there like all day and night. one of these guys was Joseph Red Murphy.

He ended up becoming kind of a bartender at the speakeasy, but he was just kind of like there to like drink and also like help out. Would also pour a cup every now and then. And I think he was getting paid like a dollar a day. A dollar a day. Literally. And again, he just spent his days drinking whiskey while he was doing his bartending job. He was also apparently, you know, like he was filthy, never took a shower.

Not the bartender I want. He slept on a manger sofa in the speakeasy a lot of times. It would just wake up and, like, stumble over and pour a drink and down it. That's very sad. He also had a kind of tough life as a child. Like, he had gone from foster home to foster home. He was very violent in his youth. He had just stumbled into Marino's bar to get a drink, and he gave him, like, a quote-unquote job.

Yeah. Now, the next person we'll talk about is Frank Pasqua. Frank Pasqua. Frank Pasquois. Frank Pasquois was 24 years old. He was happy. married with a four-year-old son, and he owned Pasquois burial service. He was like an undertaker. He had actually hired Michael Malloy, who we're going to talk about soon. I thought

you were going to say he was actually high when he went into the bar or like something like that. And I was like, he was actually high. And this is going to, this next thing will kind of show you how everything's like how they all come together. Yeah. Because we know now that Joseph Murphy and Tony Marino work together. Sure. Frank Pasquois actually had hired Michael Malloy every now and then to just do some odd jobs and like polished coffins and shit when he was like hard up for drinking money. And he would also let him sleep in the mortuary sometimes.

Oh, he sounds very nice until the end. He's the worst. So don't worry. He actually uses this like for bad. Oh, no. I know. Because I thought that too. I was like, well, that was nice of him.

And then later I was like, oh, you fucker. Using it to his advantage. So they became acquaintances, obviously, Mike Malloy and Frank Pasquale. And together, they would go down to Marino's speakeasy and they would drink. So all of them began to know each other. Now, Malloy was said to drink literally everything. He would drink whatever was in front of him and he would literally down it in five seconds and he would just go all day. Wow.

And he also loved the sardy. sandwiches that Marino's bar served. Gross. Which sounds terrible. Actually, like total side note, we got a new cat food for the cats and there's like a whole ass sardines in it and we had to stop getting that kind because I couldn't handle it. And actually the cats wouldn't eat them. They would eat around them.

I could not do it. I don't blame them. They have taste. They have taste. They have refinement. Oh, Lux and Frankie. My be it. So Pesquois was a shady fuck.

And he was working with insurance companies a lot through the burial service. And he was doing a lot of shady dealings with payouts because he was getting people to be insured for certain things. He was charging for certain things. That he didn't need to. There was a lot of shady shit going on. So Marino and him would talk about this a lot, but they would both talk about it in Italian. According to On the House by Simon Raid. He's the one who said that they would talk about it in Italian a lot so people couldn't hear.

They were like being really shady. Yeah. So who knows what other dealings they were trying to get got? Is it fucked up that? Like I kind of love that. That they, no, it's cool. Yeah, like, I love that. Cool.

But then when you hear, like, this all sounds at first, you're like, oh, my God, this is like so slick. It is terrible. And then when you get into it, also, the most bubbling shit you have, it, it gets to a point where you're like, this can't be real. Well, and like you said, for pocket change. For nothing. And it's like, obviously nothing is worth doing.

murdering someone. But it's like it came to a point where they were splitting it among like eight of them. And it's like, it's just not. And also one cent for you. There's so many people involved in this that you're like, how did all of you just be so okay with just trying to murder someone for money? Yeah, that's a lot. It was a time in New York. It was a different time. So yeah, him and Marino would talk a lot about these insurance scams and all that. And he was actually the one who helped Marino get the policy out on May. Bell. Okay. He was the one who was able to scam that and get him to borrow a probably like forged a signature, I bet. Yeah, there was all these things where they used different names. They, they, they, he just knew what he was doing. Yeah. But all of this wasn't helping Marino's business because every, even the money he was getting from these insurance schemes and all that, he wasn't putting them back into the business. Which is stupid. And it was failing. And the

depression is closing in all around them. He's about to lose this. Yeah. So now Marino is hard. up. He needs cash. He's like, what am I going to do? And he's discussing this with Frank Pesquois and another regular, 29-year-old Daniel Kreisberg. Okay. Now, Kreisberg had three kids and a wife. He worked as a grocer, and by all accounts, he was like a good husband and father. Wow. He genuinely loved his family. In fact, up until the very end, he said, I only did this for my family. I was just desperate to give them a good life. And I did stupid shit, and I went down badpatch. Yeah. Which is like, okay, but like murder.

Yeah, it's like, I want to give you that noble patch, but I can't. But like nobility and like morality go hand in hand and like you're lacking the moral part of this all. That's really sweet that you love your children and your wife and you want to like provide for them. But like you can't do that with murder. Like murder takes away the cuteness of that. Murder. that thought. Yeah, it's no good. But yeah, he, but by all accounts, he was not abusive. He was not like a violent person. At least there's that. At least there's that. A little, a little refresh for us.

But that's what got him talking to these creep asses and like getting into this whole thing. All right. So the three of them sat there and they're like, hey, who can we, you know, we can do this with insurance. Insurance pays out a lot of money. What can we do? So they're looking around the bar and they're like, why don't we just kill Malloy and take out an insurance policy on him? That's really mean. Right? And then they were like, we'll just split it evenly among ourselves. No one will notice because we'll just get him super drunk and he'll drink himself to death,

which no one will be shocked about. And he was like, no. And then they picked him because, one, he was a drunk and two, he was homeless most of the time and he had no real connections. He had, he was from Ireland. He had no friends and family here to speak of. no, they thought this is a piece of fucking cake. Right, like, quote unquote, perfect crime.

Yeah, and they were like, this dude has been drinking every second of every day for his entire life as far as they knew. They were like, he's probably going to be weak. Like, he's probably falling apart as it is. Honey, he's Irish. Oh, how wrong they were. He is a biological phenomenon of this man. Wait until you hear what his body endured.

Yeah. It's outrageous. I remember I was crazy. Like driving to work one day when I listened to the original episode and I was like, everybody at work, hello. Like, let me tell you a story. Can I tell you about Michael Malloy? Y'all ever heard of this guy? No.

Everyone was like, you're a hairdresser. You know what's wrong with you. So July 29th, 1932, Pesquois went to the speakeasy and literally just walked up to Maloy because they were like, we're going to do this. We're going to take out the insurance on him. We're going to kill him. So he just walks up to Malloy and he's like, hey, let's get you some insurance. You work for me. For what, though?

And he's like, you work for me. Like, you know, shit can happen. Let's do this. Let's make this official. I'm such a great guy. And while I was like, cool, let's do that. Let's get some money. Because he's like, all right, it's cool.

Like, these are his only friends. He's just like, okay. He doesn't give a shit. He's like, sure, get me insurance. Who gives shit? Can I sit here and drink more? Can we please put that on a shirt? Sure, get me insurance.

Sure, get me insurance. Everybody's like, yeah, get me some motherfucking insurance. Get me insurance. Who gives a shit? So he took him and literally told the insurance guy. He was like, okay, he works for me. He needs some insurance. Like, what if shit happens?

Right. And the insurance guy was like, uh, okay, like, how do you know him? And he was like, and the bar. And Maloy was like, Maloy said, well, he's like one of my only friends. I know, I know. And then he's like, he did me really like solid by letting me sleep in the mortuary and he's given me some odd jobs. And he was like, you know,

like he's, he's a really good guy. So he was like, who do you want to be the beneficiary of your life insurance? And he was like, well, this guy. I'm not men for this. Frank Pasquois. I'm not meant for this. That's who I want to be the beneficiary. And they were like, even the insurance guy was like, you sure?

No, no, no, no. Because to me it seems like you don't really know him. Like, are you very positive? And he's like, I literally don't care. He's like, do you have any like whiskey back then? He's literally like, can I go back to the speakeasy, please. Oh, my lawyer. Yeah.

So he, he said, he. he's the beneficiary he put him down for it and again pasquois is using the like he works for me so i need the insurance and but the insurance guys are like i don't know it's weird seems creepy and in fact this one guy like one of like the underwriter guys was named charles minervini and he said he was immediately dubious about what was happening he was like oh bitch i love that word okay yeah dubious always feels really good you did buy a vowel i did uh but he was was like, I didn't trust Pasquois. He was like, he gave me a vibe, I thought he was too slick.

Yeah. I just didn't trust him. Well, the whole situation is just shady as fuck. And he even wrote on the back of the policy, he wrote, uh, the applicant is to be employed by the beneficiary, an undertaker who is to pay premiums. This beneficiary desires this policy he claims for his protection. Uh-huh. So he's already writing on there like, mm-hmm.

Yeah. He's side-eyeing through his writing. He should have written at the end. Mm-hmm. M-H-M-M-M-M-M-M. Exactly. Now, August 24th rolls around, he's rejected. The insurance is rejected. Oh, no. Do you know why? So, because it was shady as fuck. Oh, so they were like, yeah, they were like, no, this doesn't make sense. You don't need insurance on him.

He doesn't really even work for you. Let's be real. So he goes, let's be real, Pasquois. So Pasquois goes back to the speakeasy and he's like, well, shit. And he's telling Marino and Criesbury, like, they rejected it. I don't know what to do. He's like, I thought this was going to be easy. Like, I've done this a million times. I don't know why it didn't work.

Yikes. Now, another patron overhears this. And his name was Joseph Fremento. He was friends with an insurance agent. So he's listening to this. And he's like, he doesn't hear the whole thing. He just hears like, oh, he got rejected. And he's like, oh, I think I can help them out.

Trying to be helpful. So he's friends with a guy. There's so many Josephs. He's friends with a guy named Joseph Parake. And Poreka was an insurance agent with another company. And he was always looking for clients. So he was like, hey, maybe I can help you. Right.

Now he goes, so they try this whole thing over again with this new insurance agent. It goes to the next guy and it's rejected again. Come on. For the same thing. Because even this new other insurance agency is like, uh-uh. It's like, why do you continue to try? Because they want this. They've decided.

They are killing Michael Malloy and they are getting an insurance payout. Michael, run to Ireland. Run. So now they bought bartender Joseph Murphy into the fold because Pasquois was like, I can't keep trying to get insurance under our names because red flags are going to start flying up. So he's like, we also can't keep using Michael Malloy's name. We're going to have to give him another identity. Oh.

This is how stupid they are because first rejection should have been like, you know what, this is too much. Real bad idea. This is too much trouble that it's worth like sign from the universe. We should just move on. second rejection, come on. Move on. Yeah.

And then if you're sitting there saying we got to change his name and bring someone else into it, guys. No. Get out of that. Just try a different job. It's not worth it. Right. Let it go. Like, what are you doing here?

But no, he was like, let's bring the bartender into it. So he brings Joseph Murphy into it. And he's like, you have to try to get insurance for him. We'll give him a different name. And he's like, so we're going to say that, you know, Pasquois is going to call. insurance agent that he just got rejected by. That guy, Joseph, what is it named? Joseph. Just Joseph. And he's going to call him and say, like, I know you guys rejected my insurance, but my friend is trying to get insurance for his friend. So he's going to be calling you,

and I just wanted to, like, recommend you. I'm just thinking, like, such a good experience. I'm literally thinking of, like, calling Blue Cross Blue Shield and being like, hi. So my name is Ash, but, like, my friend, Elena, her friend, like, Deborah needs some insurance. So, like, can you guys help me out like the other person on the line would be like can your fucking friend just call and get their insurance like who are you like what but pasquois was kind of like a worker he was a charmer yeah yeah so he was like you know what i think this guy likes me i mean his name's fucking pasquo i think he feels bad that i got rejected so i'm gonna kind of like put this out this so he was like you know what i'm sending him to you he's going to try to get insurance through you

okay i want you to get the business yeah like i'm such a great person i'm such a nice guy so this joseph guy had like weird blind face faith in pasquois oh like i don't know why he felt like this very genuine connection with him but he was like i will follow you into the dark i guess i guess it was just pasquois being pasquo it was pascow's way pasquois just pasquas i will die if that is not how you say his name and we have said it so many times like how else would you say it there's no what squaw it Paisquo? There's honestly no other way I see to say it. Pesqui.

And it's just so good. Yeah, I love it. Pasquo. So he actually, this guy, Joseph, went against the insurance business's rules and policies by agreeing to drop off the paperwork to be picked up later signed. No. Now, you're supposed to see the person sign it. Correct.

So you can make sure that this is all like up on the up and up. This is the person signing it. And he's like, no. So it's like, and this is supposed to. to like, you know, avoid, like, insurance fraud, that whole thing. Nope. He was like, I'll just drop it off in school. Yikes.

Yeah. So they put the policy under the name Nicholas Mellery. So that was who Michael Malloy was now going to become. Nicholas Mellery. And they were using Joseph as, like, the guy trying to get it. This is so involved. They even went as far to get Nicholas Mellery, this fake guy. They got him an employment at a flower shop without.

him being a real person. How? By using, because he used, Pasquois used his contacts, because again, he's the undertaker. Everyone knows him. The insurance people know him because he works with them regularly. The flower shop is right across the street. And they use, he uses them all the time. He gives them tons of business. So he's like, can you hire my friend Nick who's never coming to work? And they're like, absolutely. That's how that went down. They just, these are his contacts. They're going to, They're going to vouch for him. So they did. And they had to, so as this is going through, they ended up having to bring in two other guys to this whole scheme.

And these guys were named Anthony Tough Guy Bastogne. Shut the fuck up. I'm going to start calling you Alina Tough Guy, Earth Car. Elena, Tough guy. Tough guy. Yeah, he was a scary guy. He actually provided liquor to a lot of these speakeasies, which was very illegal. So he was in some gangster mob shit.

Bitch, I love that. I know you will. Oh, shit. I literally. I fucking love that shit. He was a scary dude. And according to actually, Pesquois called him, quote, a very bad character, a gunman. Pasquois.

Pesquois. Don't call the kettle black. And the other guy they brought into the fold was Joseph Manglione. Oh, the only Joseph in the entire thing. Another Joseph. So Maglione was a tough guy, a criminal type. So like we're really getting into the deep here. Yeah.

For not a lot of money. It's like everybody needs to calm down. Right. The policy they were going to get was going to be $1,600. It's obviously inflated now. Sure. But they were going to have to split it all around. I'm going to look at what it was like worth back then.

Yeah. It was going to be less than $300 each back then. Oh, you already did it, bitch. But I mean, I mean from back then. It's like, no, that's not. I was half listening because I was Googling. You already did it, bitch. But they were able to get through all, you know, through all the shadiness, they were also able to get something called double indemnity.

And what this is is it's a provision for payment of double the face amount of an insurance policy under certain conditions. That's a motherfucking loophole. And one of these conditions is death as a result of an accident. So they were able to get the policy from 1600 to 3,500. 76. So now we're getting up there now. Big money. I don't know what it is now. I'm working on that you'll be able to go- I hope you'll be able to goog it out of the atmosphere and tell me. So I said $1,600 in 1930 now and it said $1,000 in 1930 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $25,586 today. Damn. All right. So good money. So what about $3,576? Hold on one second. Because that's got a,

that's a significant amount. What was the number? Not enough to murder someone. 576? $3,576, yeah. 3,576. Sorry. That would be worth, it didn't pop up. It started getting a math.

It's a lot. It's a lot, guys. It's a good amount. It's a good amount now. I mean, it's more than $25,000 today. So it's a solid amount of money. But again, we say, not enough to murder someone. No money is enough to murder somebody.

Now, these guys, I want to. to tell you right now so that when all of this shenanigans occur, you can remember what they were referred to in the press later. Okay. Collectively, they were referred to as the murder trust. Yeah. Doesn't that sound slick and like, oh, the murder trust? It almost sounds like the brain trust, which is the farthest from what they were. Do you know what it just reminds me of, and this is exactly who we are as people? So you thought the brain trust. And then immediately my head just went to the bling ring. My God.

Honestly, that's about as... Makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. The bling ring. Watch that movie if you haven't. Dare it. It's horrible, but so great. Well, they all agreed because of this indemnity clause.

Sure. They were like, you know what? It has to be accidental. Obviously, we want that insurance payout. So they were like, you know what? Like we said, drinking himself to death is really the only way. They were like, this is going to be easy. it's going to nobody's going to question it.

Is that technically classified an accident then? Yeah, an accidental death. So they would get that double payout. I feel like for Michael Malloy, that would just be natural causes. Well, that's the, it's like, it wouldn't be looked at as like intentional or anything because like he does it so often. Yeah. So they were like, let's do this. So Bastone, who is the tough guy, Anthony Bastone, you know, Anthony Bastone.

Mob guy. He was actually like, why don't we do? just straight up murder him by slicing his stuff. He's like, that's usually how I do it. He literally was like, this is a lot of shit for murdering someone for money. Can we just kill him? But then you're like, no, because we won't get the extra money from the accident, tough guy. Well, that's the thing. It's like the rest of the brain trust or I mean murder trust. You mean bling ring. Was literally like, hey, when we slip people's throats, it doesn't like scream accident to a lot of people. So no. You like we got a, I picture. I picture tough.

guy like slamming down a whiskey and just being like, what if he was shaving? He was yelling. Yeah, screaming. He yells everything. Anthony Tough Guy Bastone. Hey! You can hear him down the street. I know it. Yeah. Even when he's just telling you something like I got to go to the grocery store, he's screaming it at your face. Yeah. He's so, and he's red, he's angry. It's like a wonder that he never got caught prohibitioning. It's true. It's a wonder. But he did it. But he did. Well, I guess he must have. You know, tough guy? Yeah, that's fine. But yeah, tough guy was pissed about it. He's like, I don't want to do this subtly. And they were like, well, we have to. So there was these other two tough guys that were hanging out at the bar. Okay. Edward Smith and John McNally. And they were like, hey, we can help out with whatever you're trying to do.

And they were like, okay, but we, and they were like, that would be great. We think we know what we want to do. But if we need like extra help, we'll grab you. And they were like, cool. We want a piece of the pie, though. Yeah, and now we know what you're doing. Sure. You can have like a small piece of pie. And they were like, nope, we want. half the policy. And they were like, we'll talk to you guys later. T-T-Y-L. I don't know about that. They actually just left them on red. Yeah, exactly. That's precisely what they did. They were like so fun to talk to you. Red Thursday at 9 p.m. So they set out, they're like, all right, let's get them to drink himself to death. Like, they huddled,

they did a chant. Ho-rah. All right, let's do this. They would, though. They're, they're 100% did. They're so bros. And I bet they did it on a Saturday because they're for the boys. It was. I bet it was. Oh, I love it. I love making you laugh so hard. That was funny. That was a good one. But Marino decided he was like, okay, here's how we're going to do it. He's like, Malloy's going to come in. And, you know, usually he gets a tab, but lately he's been not giving him his tab because he's been running so low on funds himself for the bar that he was, he's been And basically what Maloy was doing was he'd like run out, do some sweet sweep, street sweeping, and he'd run back in with like a little bit of money, drink whatever he could, and that's what he would do.

So he was like, I know, if I say to him, you know, you've been such a loyal customer to me and a good friend, I'm going to give you unlimited tab. He was like, Maloy's going to fucking die. He's going to be so excited. Literally. The goal is that he will die. Hopefully he literally will. And so he comes in.

he's like, hey, hey, Malloy. Mikey boy. So I've decided that you are just going to be able to drink for free whenever you want. Malloy did not question this. Why would you? He did not raise an eyebrow. I'm not going to lie to you, I wouldn't question that. He was fucking psyched.

Yeah. So he was like, let's get it. Let's begin. Infinite my ties. And it was infinite because he just started knocking them back all day, nothing. But the thing was, nothing was happening. He was getting drunk a little bit. But like, this dude, that was his natural state.

They were like, they literally were like, we were shocked. Like, we thought something was wrong. Because they were like, why is he not getting like very inebriated? It was. And then they were like, was he just so happy that his like adrenaline was like overriding any effects because he was so psych. Maybe. He was just happily getting toasty at the bar.

Like he was just like, yep, get it. great, I don't have to stop. So he ended up drinking a bottle of gin the first night to the face. And then he just like went to chill at the end, came back in the morning, started again in the morning, and drank all day until closing. Did not leave the bar. Isn't that what he usually mostly did anyway? But he would kind of have to like stop to like maybe get some money or whatever.

He doesn't have to stop. Right. He's just sitting on. And he can have any liquor he wants. Right. Now it's not like, oh, I. I can afford this one. Top shelf, bitch.

I can have whatever I want. So he drank all day the second day until closing. I love, though, that this is backfiring on the meaning guy. Oh, it backfires. Tony. Forever and always. It just like backfiring forever. I love it.

That's what it is. So the third day he comes back in, he starts all over again. Now he's drinking whiskey, he's drinking gin, he's drinking vodka, he's just mixing everything. Party. Party. He left, that just makes me think of that Katia clip where she's like, party. I think she was making fun of a door Delano in that clip. I'm not sure, though. I just love that

clip. So he left and was totally fine, like barely stumbling out the door after just just piling liquor into his body. Oh my God. And they're all trying to figure out this shit because they're like, this is going to take forever. He's not dying. Well, we're going to lose all our fucking alcohol. He's not drinking himself to death. Like what is happening? So they kept thinking he would die overnight because they were like, maybe, which I'm like, you guys are just sitting around being like, maybe he's like puking all over himself and aspirating right now. Like you're just sitting there being like horrible. I sure hope he's dying of a terrible overdose alone in a gutter. Like that's really horrific. What kind of shitty people are you? So every time they would think he's just, you know,

he must be dying in his sleep. Nope. He was just coming right back again the next day. Michael Malloy had a liver made of steel bitch. Three more days he did the exact same thing. Wow. A binge. I mean, he was just hard going out of it. So then they up the ante. They start giving him different things, not just alcohol that you drink. They gave him turpentine. What is that again? That's like paint thinner.

Oh, shit. They gave him some rat poison in it. Oh, my God. They just kept mixing them all together and down the hatch they happily went. Maybe that's the actual cure to COVID-19 is just drink. Apparently. All the time. Because then Marino was like, this isn't working either because they were just kind of mixing

them into the alcohol. Yeah. And he was like, no, we have to literally just change out his shots with like straight up something else. A pour, like pour him a whole glass of that. They started giving him just straight up wood alcohol, which is like in paint thinner, in anti-freeze. Wow.

Yeah. So they started taking his shots and they give him a regular shot of like whiskey. Then the next shot would be a straight shot of like turpentine. I wonder if he had like. burned off all of his taste buds or something with the alcohol. 10 milliliters of this stuff should blind you. Wow. Two to eight ounces should kill an adult.

They gave him a few regular shots of alcohol. Then they just straight up switched to wood alcohol, just every single shot. He didn't even flinch. He asked for more. He kept asking for them. They kept giving, they gave him several shots of this shit. He was drunk, but just left, came back the next day, totally fine. So they did the same thing. Shots of whiskey and then shots of wood alcohol. They did this for several

fucking days. He drank straight wood alcohol for days. And I can't even eat a fucking piece of cheese without dying. Like I'm pissed actually right now. One night they said they watched him drink a quart and a half of wood alcohol in one sitting. In one sitting. And they were like at the very least he should be blind. What is happening right now? At the very least he should be fucking like all. on the floor seizing. He didn't even have alcohol poisoning. Like, no symptoms of it. Wow.

He was drunk, but he was like, he would just get up and come back in. He just was alcohol. So finally, one night, he did pass out on the floor, like, just crumpled into a ball and that's the other thing. I'm like, he didn't even pass out any of the other nights there. So he was appearing to, like, die. And they were like, like, the breathing was getting labored. And they were, they all just stood over him and washed.

Like, they were literally like. Because at this point, it had been days and days. And they were like, what the fuck? So they were like, they were just waiting. They watched. And then all of a sudden he began to snore. Oh my God. I love that.

He was fucking sleeping. He's dozen, bitch. He's just toze on the bar. In Dreamland, what the fuck is up? He's in. Like, Sandman has come. Rem. Enter Sandman.

I love it. It's, now they decide. They're like, we got to do something else. But again, because, you know, Anthony tough guy over there is being like, what should is throw? And they're like, no, we have to maintain the subtlety. dude, we want that insurance payout. So like, I don't even care.

So now Pasqua was like, let's get him like a bad stomachache. That'll be fun. Which I'm like, whoa, you took this into let's just like kill him until let's give him a stomach egg too. That sucks. So they're trying to like fuck him in the gut now. So they were like, let's do. Don't ever say that again.

Let's do raw oysters soaked in wood alcohol. You had me until the wood alcohol. And Pasquois said he saw a man who died after eating oysters in whiskey. So the brainpower we're dealing with is like, who? After eating oysters and whiskey, he said that he died. And he, what he thought, what he theorized, Pasquo, he said he believed that the alcohol would act kind of like, kind of like formaldehyde does. And it would preserve the raw oysters in his stomach.

And they would just sit there and give him lots of issues. Wow. But what I wonder, and what I wonder, I'm like, fellas, did any of you stop and maybe say, hey, Pascua, why do you just want to give him food poisoning? Like, what are we getting out of that except having to clean up vomit? I don't understand what the end game there is. Well, and then he's vomiting up all the stuff that you're giving him. Exactly.

So that's very counterproductive. He's vomiting out the alcohol. So Pascu to me, I'm like, I think you're just like a little bit of like a sadist here. Like, you just want to see some bad shit happen. But they were like, apparently no one asked that. Damn, Pasquale. So Pasquale was like really into this. And they did it.

Okay. He was totally fine. Didn't even have a stomach game. And he got some fucking oysters out of it. Let's get it. Down to tray of oysters soaked in wood alcohol. And he was like, who. And he kept walking out every night being like, I feel the best I've ever felt.

Like he was like, I'm living. I mean, yeah. Like Michael Lloid. It's a Bredisiac up in there. He's living his best life right now. So they were like, all right, what's the next thing? What? So Murphy was like, well, you know, he loves those sardine sandwiches that we sell.

And they're like, all right, how can we fuck with those? So gross. So they were like, let's just give him a rotten one, like a rotting sardine sandwich. And they were like, well, that won't do it alone. So they were like, no, no, of course. Let's like put poison in it. And let's also put carpet tacks in it. That'll just tear up his stomach in his, like everything.

So they also added bits of broken glass and pieces of tin can to the sandwich. That's horrible. handed it to him. Motherfucker ate it and said, this is great. I would love another. Did you guys had pickles to this? I'm getting a crunch.

You are killing it. Wow. Walked out totally fine. He's like, what did I do? Not even his stomach ache. Nothing. Wow. Dude to eat shards of glass, tin can,

carpet tax and rat poison. He was in. Michael Malloy is infinite. He is. Like, what is? Is that the fault in our stars where it's like, what do they say? They say like, together we are infinite or something. I never saw that.

The stars are infinite. I don't know. Michael Malloy is infinite. That's all I know. He's like the childlike empress. Michael Malloy is pie. He is. He just goes on.

It's truly outrageous. Reading this, I was like, this can't be real. And it's real. It's real. This is real. Some real shit. So on the next, they were like, all right, what next? We can't kill.

him with drinking straight up turpentine. We can't give him antifreeze. I hate that I just thought of this, but why didn't one of them just run him over with the car by accident or like find somebody to run him over with a car? You should have been in the murder trust. I know, right? That's fucked up. Keep that in mind.

Okay. Because you might be a little on to something here. It's been a long time since I heard this case. I think you're in the murder trust. Oh, no. So they were like, what's next? Not the car. They haven't got there yet.

Don't worry, they do. Okay, maybe I like, maybe my mind knew that I knew that. I don't know. I think you're in the murder trust with them. I'm going to go with that. It's me. I like that better. So then again, it's starting to get cold out.

So on the next really cold night, they were like, let's let him drink till he passes out. So they did that. Then they dragged him in the snow to a park and then poured five gallons of ice cold water onto him. Oh, chilly. That made me cold just thinking about it. And then they just left. And we're like, well, he'll definitely die out there. Which I would think that too.

Yes. They arrive at the speakeasy the next morning. Who's laying on the fucking floor of the speakeasy asleep? This bitch. Fucking this bitch. Like that dude, I hate that this shit happened to him because he should be alive today. He would be. He would have lived to be 500 years old.

Yes. He would have been a phenomenon. Michael Malloy. He is. He is. He's laying on the floor of the speakeasy when they come in and he's like, you guys. He's like, guess what happened? You would never guess. I woke up. It was so cold, but it's warm in here, so I'm good.

I don't even know how I got there. And they're like, my, my dude, what? So now they're like, all right, we got to figure out something. So then one of them was like, a car. Yeah. What if a car hits him? What if he stumbles out there? A car hits him. That's believable. That seems like the easiest one before the sardines and the wood paint and the oysters and the stomach aches. I think there's some sadists among us here. And I think they just wanted to see some shit happen. Yeah. I think there was some like wannabe scientists who went the evil route and we're like, let's just experiment. I want to see what's going on. So they got another guy, Harry Green, and he drove a cab for a cab company. So they offered him like, 150 bucks. And he was like,

sure, I'll run a guy over with my taxi. Wow. Why not? Which I'm like, wow, what a ring of friends. So I want that on a shake. A taxi driver. Sure, I'll run a guy over with my taxi. For 150 bucks. That's fine. That's worth it. So January 30th, 1933, they said they were going to do it. They're like, let's do this. We have a plan. They had a real plan. Yeah. They crammed all seven of these idiots into a taxi with Michael Maloy after they had already gotten him super drunk.

And they basically brought him to a place, all of them together. Then Maglione and I think Bastone at that point pulled him out of the car, stood in the middle of the road holding him up. Oh, my God. And then just had Green drive the taxi at them. And they jumped out of the way. Also, did, like, did we think no one was going to see us do that? That's, well, what happened the first time was they actually had to move because one of them, I think it was Maglione, like, yelled stop and made him stop because he was like, someone just

turned on their light out of residence. Oh, my gosh. So they had to bring him somewhere else. They tried again. Green missed him with the car. How do you miss a pedestrian with a car? Twice. Usually intentionally he misses him.

Twice. And then the third one, he finally did hit Michael Malloy at 45 miles an hour. I need to know about his taxi driving skills. So they said he hit the windshield hard. He rolled into a gutter nearby. So they were like, that's it. He rolled into the gutter and they were like, he's gone. Let's leave him there.

Everything will be cool. So the next morning, they're like waiting for the headlines. You know, body discovered. No. No. Nothing's going up. Michael Malloy. No.

So they were like, what the fuck? So they went back to the spot. He's nowhere to be found. And they were like, what the fuck? So they were like, okay, you know what? Maybe he crawled away somewhere to try to like get help or he crawled away to like be alone or something. Like, yeah, we're just going to leave it. Somebody will find him.

He's definitely dead. But they're starting to panic because now a day or two is going by and nothing's happening. So now they're like, well, we need to find someone that resuscally. him and we need to put his identification card into their pocket and commit even further fraud and an additional murder. Wow. Yep. So it's now, this whole thing of like, let's get a few, like, $1,000 for murdering someone

easily is now turning into, like, multiple murders. Like a full-blown, like second job. Like, like, faking. It's a lot. It's like H.H. Holmes, but like the generic version, like, Mr. Pibb. Be like off-brand version. very, very off-brand version that you're like, I don't even know if that's edible. Yeah, no.

That's what this is. Ew, Mr. Pibb. So February 6th, they go out looking for a fake Mike Malloy because they haven't heard anything still. Right. They finally find a guy. And they agree they're going to take this guy out. Because they were shocked at how much this guy resembled to him, apparently. Just this random guy?

This random guy, 31-year-old Joseph Patrick Murray. And he had moved from Ireland as well. I was going to say, when you said Murray, I was like, what do we have against the Irishman out there? What do we have? Yeah. What is this about? Tell me a little bit about that. Well, he said on this day that, so Murray said that he was looking for work and he had stopped into the speakeasy to grab a drink.

They approached him and they were like, hey, are you looking for work? Like, I heard you talking to someone. And he was like, yeah. So they were like, oh, we can offer you some work doing like these odd jobs around here. And they were like, cool, that's awesome. They were like, first, let's celebrate this new employment of yours. Let's drink. So they had him drink until he was passed out.

Then they put the card, the identification part in his pocket, and loaded him into Green's taxi. Oh, my God. Then they tried to do the whole thing, like the whole fucking hitting him with the car thing that they did with Malloy. But it was light out and there was too many people out. So when they started to do it, they were like, we should probably put him back in and wait for a little while. Yeah. The most bumbling idiots I've ever seen in my entire, this is the most unsolicest crime I have ever seen committed. So they just bring him back to Marino's speakeasy and like dump him on the floor for a little while, wait for it to get dark and for people to go inside and then they're

like, okay, let's do this again. Oh man. I need to know like what their wives were thinking about like where they were. So they did end up hit they did the same thing with Murray and they hit him at 30 miles an hour. Hoosh. Yeah. And the thing that really got them, though, was they didn't look around well enough because a shop owner named Valen Jenkins witnessed the entire thing. And must have just been like, what the fuck am I witnessing?

What the fuck is going on? Like, they're holding him up in the middle of the street. And then just running out of the way and then jumping in the car. I've never seen a game. Squealing off. So he called 911, who showed up right away. He also got their license plate number. Iconic.

So he was brought to the hospital. as, and again, in his pocket is an ID card for Nicholas Mallory. Right. He was there for 55 days with internal injuries, five broken ribs and a concussion. He survived. I'm so glad. Yeah. So Pasquois is still not letting this go.

Pasquois is not letting all this. He's like, nope. He contacts a doctor who he usually has sign off on his death certificates for his business, the doctor that lives across the street from him. his name is Dr. Frank A. Menzala, and he was like, listen, Doc. He offers him some money, and he says, when we call you to a death scene soon, can you just pronounce the guy dead? And can you pronounce him dead of pneumonia and sign the certificate? Like, no questions asked.

And this guy's like, sure. Which is all right. Like, where do you find a doctor like that? So the plan was this. Marino was going to find a room that they could rent. like some kind of like tenement house or something. The only thing that this had to have was a gas line in the room, which I guess they used for like lamps and stuff.

Yeah. Because at first I was like, why would you have a gas line just had a room to? The 30s were a different time. I was like, oh. Isn't that terrifying to think of it? It really is. So they were thinking what they were going to do was get this guy, bring him up to the room. They were going to gas him to death because that's harder to detect.

I just can't. Yeah. So then they were. we're going to get the doctor up there. The doctor was going to look at him and go, oh, no, pneumonia. Sign it off, and then boom, they get the life insurance policy. They're still for that. They're like, we're getting this one way or another.

So five days later, Michael Malloy walks into Marino's speakeasy. He had been at Fordham Hospital with broken bones. The motherfucker fucker survived. Yeah, he did. He was found by a police officer and brought to the hospital. they said, quote, he was covered with blood, his head was all cut, his clothes, face, shirt, and everything he had on was all covered in blood. I asked him for his name and he told me his name was Michael Malloy. That's what the police officer said.

He also didn't remember anything that happened. He didn't. So wild. So he was not suspicious of his friends at all. I really hate that. I hate it because he didn't even connect them to it. He remembered nothing of that night. So he was like, guys, you'll never be.

believe it. Someone hit me with a car. I mean, while they had tried three separate times. Like, what? They're like, yeah, we did. So now they're back on their bullshit to kill Malloy, because now he's back. So they're like, cool, we don't have to worry about it look like anymore. Let's just go with the original plan, but let's

gas Maloy now. Oh, I hate that. This dude who has survived. How many attempts on his life by these bubbling assholes and this brain trust? Right. And now they're just going to gas him to get that fucking payout? He deserved to He did.

I mean, everybody does. So February 22nd, he's in the speakeasy, and they challenge him to a drink off, a couple of the guys. If I was Michael Malloy, I'd be like, boys. Oh, he would. I'd be like, yeah. That's when my suspicion would raise. I'd be like, do you know me? Have you been?

Hello? I ate a sardine sandwich with tax in it. So let's be real. But Malloy was just psyched to be like hanging out and drinking. they were bonding. Yeah. He thought these were his bros. Exactly.

And so one of them is just drinking whiskey, and they're giving him the wood alcohol again. Yeah. Because they're trying to get him fucked. So he finally does start getting, like, really drunk. And he ended up drinking two quarts of wood alcohol. Wow. And then he did pass out. And they said he was actually frothing at the mouth.

Oh, that's terrible. So they dragged him to the room that they had rented. And it was Joseph Murphy who was like bringing him in. And when the landlady was like, uh, what's this about? He was like, oh, this is my brother. And he's like really drunk. But he's also really sick. So I just need to get him up there so he can rest.

And she's like, cool. So they got him in there. They had a rubber hose. They secured the rubber hose to the gas line, stuck the other end into his mouth while he was passed out, wrapped a towel around his face to block all his airways. and then just turned on the gas. That's so horrific.

Yeah. And at one point, they actually stopped because Kreisberg was like, I don't know if I can do this. It was Kreisberg and Murphy who were in the room. And Kreisberg was the one turning the knob. He's the one with three kids and the one that's like... It's a little late for that, though. Supposedly a good father and husband. He's not.

And he's, you can tell that this guy is just a giant wimp. Oh, yeah. And he's just a wimp. And he's clearly, I mean, how do you get? there. How do you get there? I don't even want to know. You can't get there and then go, oh, no, I don't want to do this. Like, honey, your hands on the knob. You've stuck a fucking hose in his mouth and you've covered his face of the towel. You're here. Right. It's like, you don't get to pretend that you have a conscience suddenly. All of a sudden. But Murphy was like, dude, if you don't turn

that back on, we're all going to get it. Right. These guys were like getting pissed at this. This was obviously frustrating all of them. They all have like mob ties and like criminal world tie. Underworld ties, especially Tony. And they've all made it pretty clear. If this doesn't go off like a hitch and one of you fucks up, it's going to be you. Right. So Murphy was like, I don't want to get got. Like, just turn it on.

We're already here. And so he turned it back on and Michael Malloy finally died. Oh, so sad. So they pretended he was still drunk and sick and they called doctor. You know, Dr. Manzella. You know, doctor. You know, doctor. So he comes in.

They tell the landlord he, Oh, landlord. The landlord. The landlord. The landlord. That's what I would want to be if I was a... Hell yeah. A land person.

I just said. Did you say? I just really want to be a land person. I want to be a land person. But yeah, so they tell the landlady, like, you know, my brother's sick, so I'm having a doctor come check him out. So the doctor comes. He's pronounced dead. And he gives Pasquodian, so info for the insurance.

And he wrote the cause of death as pneumonia. What a deuce. So he did everything they had to. Fuck that. guy. So now everything is going smoothly finally. For now. It's happening. He was promptly buried because they got to get him in the ground. Right. They got him in the ground. Because also who's the undertaker. Who are you going to call? Frank Pascua. That's where you should never call. So Pascua, now that he's got that all taken care of, he goes to the insurance company to collect.

Oh, of course. The insurance agent said, cool, cool, when can I see the body? Oh, no. And he was like, Huh? And then he's like, well, it's already buried. And they said immediately, ding, ding, ding, red flags went up. They were like, nope, we're supposed to see the body, bro. Like, you're an undertaker. You know that. Right. So an investigation immediately started. The insurance people were like, no, police, hello. Like something's weird. They eventually, it is, I really recommend you read this book because they go into great detail of how this all happened. They eventually connected them all through the insurance fraud and just the sloppiness of this whole thing. And they all started turning on each other.

Right. And they were all like, some of them were confessing. Some of them were saying they didn't have anything to do with it, but they listened to somebody else do this. Murphy cracked first. Of course Murphy did. He gave it all. He just gave it all.

He was like, I got kids. And then Criesbury or excuse me, Chrysbury. That is not his name. That sounds like a cereal. That's the newest wild flingberry. Ah, Kreisberg cracked. He immediately, and he was like, I have kids, and I didn't want to get killed. And they kept telling me I would get killed if I didn't do it.

Like, he's played that whole thing. Marino stayed silent. And he was like, no, I didn't do it. I don't know anything about this. I don't know him. I don't know them. I don't know anything. But then he was faced with everybody else confessing.

And they were like, yeah. Like, we know you're like the head one of this. So he did start, like, letting things out. But it was mainly making him look like he didn't have a lot to do with it. but he was just kind of like, he just fell into it. Pasquois was stonewalling. He was like, nope, I don't know anything about this, but then he fucked up. Oh, what did he do? I forget.

Because remember, he was supposed to not, you know, this whole Michael Malloy and Nicholas Mallory thing. They're not supposed to know that this is Mike Malloy. Right. It's supposed to be Nicholas Mallory. Nicholas Mallory. So they started talking about the doctor and how he, He knew the doctor and how the doctor knew Nicholas Mallory.

And he says, you know, he was like, how did you know that this doctor was on this case? Like, I know you know the doctor, but like, you're not supposed to know that he was on this case. And he was like, Pasquois says, I know it for a fact. And he said, how did you know it? And he said, because Maloy told me. And he was like, you mean Mike? Like, what do you? And he did that like, he was like, you mean Mike?

Like to try to get him to be like, yeah. And he said, yes. And then he goes, you called him Mike. And he was like, oh no, you know what? Melary, like we used to call him Malloy sometimes because like I heard it wrong the first time. Like, no, I'm talking about Nick, not Mike. And he's like, nope, you're talking about Mike Malloy because you just fucked up.

Right. Now I know that it's you. Right. Like he totally fucked himself over. I love that. That's like Scott Peterson when he was like, oh yeah, like my wife was. And everybody was like, a few. Excuse me?

We don't know. We don't know. Why's that past tense? So immediately, shit went down. Everybody started confessing. They all got caught. I love it. One of the newspaper articles at the time said the headline was insurance murder, trust seen in arrest of five for man's death.

And it says, barring the most unbelievable details of an alleged murder trust's cold-blooded killing of at least one man in a gruesome plot to defraud insurance companies. District Attorney Samuel Foley today announced the arrest of a Bronx undertaker and four others for homicide and a former Republican alderman from Harlem as an accessory. That's the doctor. Oh, what an idiot. Yeah. The success of that investigation was attested by the appearance of the accused men in the lineup at police headquarters this morning

and the fact that two others are now being detained as material witnesses. because now they're getting all the other people that they involved in this. Of course. They were all found guilty, all five of them, and they were all sentenced to the electric chair. Wow. And on June 7, 1934, they were all put to death. Gemini season bit. Now, one other headline, I'll just leave you on because, like, this was huge.

Oh, of course. It was for the New York Times, May 13, 1933, and it was entitled, Insurance Murder, charged to five, tale of horror is told. And it says five men were charged with murder and two others were detained as material witnesses yesterday after an inquiry to charges that a derelict man had been murdered to collect, and it says $1,788 for which the defendant had insured him. A story of horror was unfolded by the police and the DA Samuel J. Foley of the Bronx. It concerned a man who proved so hearty of life that another man with a false identification card almost was done to death as a substitute. The authorities were admittedly skeptical two weeks ago when they were informed of the

plot, but their first search for proof not only uncovered the murder of Michael Malloy, a former stationary fireman, but led them on to clues that indicated a woman may have also been a victim. And not about Maybeau. Right. Talking about me. So that is the story of Michael Malloy. The motherfucking indestructible. A.k.a. Mike the durable, which I love. I love that. Or Iron Mike. I love Mike the durable. What was it? What did they say? So, so what of life? So Hardy. He's so Hardy. I love that. He's the hardiest. He truly is.

Ed Hardy thought that he was Hardy. No way. Mike Molloy was the Hardy. Mike Maloy is the hardiest. The OG Hardy. That story just blew and that's like an overview. Oh, yeah. Read this book. Go look it out because it is who. Like, all the intricacies of these insurance scams are like crazy. I love it. It's so crazy. I wish that Mike didn't die though. I wish that the ending was like and they tried again and somehow the gas didn't even do it. I know. I would have loved that. Man, he earned it. He must be vibing wherever he is. I bet he got reincarnated as like something diesel. I bet he did. I don't know like an oak tree. Like an oak tree. But I want better for him. I do too. Not that I have anything against oak trees. No. If any oak trees are listening, I was like, we're not, we love you. That was really funny. We would never talk shit about oak trees. I'd scream ever.

I couldn't catch myself for a second. I love it. Oak trees. All right, but we hope you guys keep listening. We really do. After that whole oak tree bit. The oak trees specifically, I hope you keep listening. We hope you, oak trees.

Keep it. Weird. And Okie. But not so weird that you do this. Yeah, no. Not so weird that you do any of that. Don't kill Mike Malloy. Keep it.

Mike Malloy weird, though. I mean, maybe don't for your personal house. I was going to say.