Morbid - Stephen Griffiths AKA The Crossbow Cannibal

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

Stephen Griffiths dubbed himself the Crossbow Killer after murdering and dismembering three women. Susan Rushworth, Shelley Armitage and Suzanne Blamires were all connected by the work they did. They were so much more than what they did for a living though, they were mothers, sisters, daughters and friends. Stephen Griffith’s took all three of their lives away in a horrific, coldblooded manner because he simply wanted to be a serial killer.  As always thank you to our sponsors: HelloFresh: Get twelve free meals—including free shipping!—when you use code morbid12 at HelloFresh.com/morbid12 Norton Lifelock: Join now and save 25% or more off your first year at Norton.com/MORBID BetterHelp: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Morbid: A True Crime Podcast listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/Morbid Purple: Right now, you’ll get 10% off any order of $200 or more! Go to Purple.com/morbid10 and use promo code morbid10 Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, weirdos. I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is morbid in the morning. That was off. It's actually morbid in the morning. This is my morbid in the morning. And that is yours. Okay. There's only one. There could only be one. All right. The show's over. Bye. We're out of here. We're done. I just slammed my computer shut. Did you hear that a little too aggressively? I probably shouldn't have done that. Everything's gone now. I think mine wins because it's to the tune of rolling with the homies. Yeah, that is a good one. All right. I'll give you that. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to, you know. Do you have credit where credit is dear. Yeah, I'll give that. But hi everybody. Hello. It's the morning. This was a fake fight. It was. It was fake. We're not ending. Don't worry. We don't have like a ton of bidness to talk about today, but we are doing a show

this Sunday. It's the summer solstice show. So you know it's going to be good. We've got costumes as usual. Of course. We are going to talk about, should we tell them what we're going to talk about, get them interested? Yeah, let's kind of like, yeah, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, peak the interest. It's going to be culty. We're going to talk about some cults. And, you know, we're going to, we're going to live that cult life. We really are. So, and when we say that, we really mean it. We're going to, absolutely. It's going to be a lot. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, if you would like to join our cult, you can go to on locationlive.com slash category slash morbid. I believe tickets are still available for this event. And just so everybody

knows that even if you haven't bought tickets yet, or if you have, this is going to be available for up to seven days after Sunday. Yeah. So you still, you got time. Yeah. You got time. If you haven't got your dad a Father's Day gift yet, give him the gift of us. Give him the gift of a cult experience. I was going to say, give your dad a cult for his day. As Karen and Georgia would say, you're in a cult, call your dad. Yeah, except maybe your dad might call you because you got him in a cult. So there you go. I don't know.

I don't have advice for that. Maybe you call Karen and Georgia at that point. I don't know. Maybe. I'm not real sure. They said, though, to call your dad. I know. Don't call them.

I'm trying to make a word. Don't call them. Yeah, I mean, don't call. How? How would anybody cold call Karen in Georgia? I don't know. I don't know your life. I love that you're like, God, don't call them.

I don't use the phone number you have for Karen and Georgia collectively in cold call. I feel like they have a collective driver. It's just the Karen and Georgia line. It's the hotline. Hello, welcome to my favorite murder. Shout out to my favorite murder. I was just going to say, not that they need it, but like promo for my favorite murder. Yeah, right.

Well, this is going to be a doozy of a case. Yeah, this is a lot. One might say the most. Yeah, I'm both excited and really terrified. Yeah, we're going to be talking about the Bradford murders today, otherwise known as the cannibal crossbow killings or the crossbow cannibal killings. Which everyone feels right to you. Yeah, alliteration, you can do it either way. I hope neither of them feel right to you.

None of this should feel right. None of this should feel right. This should all feel very icky, very dirty, and very scary. You should be very unsettled right now and only get worse throughout this episode. Correct. All right. So now that we set you up with that lovely intro, I guess we should just get into it. Let's jump right in.

So we're going to be talking about Stephen Sean Griffiths. And he was born actually on Christmas Eve. Oh, look at him. Celebrate. Just don't, though. And it was 1969 when he was born in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire. Dewsbury. Doosbury.

I hope I said that right. His parents were Stephen Sr. and Moira Griffiths. Not Moira. I was going to say. Very different people. Different Moira. Now, he was the oldest of three children. But unfortunately, when he was 13, Stephen Sr. and Moira decided they were going to

to end their marriage. Moira was the one to win primary custody of all three kids, which is very strange because Moira was a literal criminal. Oh, yeah. She had been charged with fraud and apparently like was known in town as like a con artist. It was a very well-known fact that she really liked to con people. Wow. It was also rumored that she was a sex worker and people around town said that they would see her out in her garden, not exactly like planting or pulling weeds, but completely naked and entertaining some male company. In her secret garden. Yeah, it was a secret garden.

It's like, do whatever you want in your garden as long as you're not murdering people and your kids aren't around. Exactly. But Stephen seemed to always be around when Moira was in the garden, not gardening. And unbeknownst to her, he would watch her and her male company. Oh. Yeah, exactly. That always ends up poorly.

Always, always, always. It reminded me of like the BTK thing. Actually, he reminds me a BTK in like a couple of ways that we'll get into. Yeah, there's a lot of those that had, you know, mothers that day would watch or its view or know about what was going on. It's like, yeah. I mean, that's like a perfect recipe for a serial killer here. For disaster. Maybe think about that.

Yeah, maybe definitely think about that. Think about what you're unleashing onto the world when you do that. Don't get it in the garden if your kids are around. Do your thing. Just don't have kids. if that's what you want to do, like, that's cool. Yeah, if you want to get freaky in the garden, then you don't have to worry about it. Do it while they're away.

You want to get freaky in the garden? Get freaky in the garden. But don't do it when your kids are around. Get freaky in the garden. Just do it when no one's around. Exactly. There you go. Do it like no one's watching.

Get freaky in the garden like no one's watching. There you go. Get freaky in your secret garden while no one's watching. All right, I think we've killed it now. We've killed that joke. Now, a lot of people think that Stephen's hatred, like, not only for women, but especially for sex workers started with his mother. Oh, really?

A lot of people think that? A lot of people do think that. That's a really good theory. It's a good start to everything. Yeah. Now, the neighbors weren't only aware of Moira's garden activity, but Stephen was having some activity time in the garden as well. What the fuck was going on with this garden?

I got to know a lot. There's certain plants that are like aphrodisiacs or something? Like, what's happening? I don't know about that. I'm just saying. Our plant, kin? Like, if you eat a certain plant, I wonder if there are ones that are apodisiacs. I'm sure.

Everything's a fucking affidavitia if you try hard enough. Some aromatics. I don't know why, but that just made me think of febrize. Hey, there you go. It's like when you say a word and then you're like, what does that remind you of? Fabrice. I say a word, you say a word. Aramatics, febrize.

Am I right? No. No. How many times an episode do I say that also? But anyways, people were noticing Stevens, Stephen's nighttime garden activity. People only saw him in the garden at night. And really, that's the only time anyone ever saw Stephen, like, was at night. People literally referred to him as nocturnal.

You know, that makes me sad because there's a really beautiful children's book called The Night Gardner that I love to meet to my children. And this is giving me scary vibes. And I don't love it. Because what was he doing? Thank you for that segue. You're welcome. Because I was going to say, he wasn't doing like what the Night Gardner was doing.

He wasn't making, like, beautiful, you know, topiaries. Tree artwork. No. They would see him in the garden at night, like shooting birds. Oh. And then dissecting those birds. At night? At night.

That's weird. Oh, you didn't get that, but it was a SpongeBob reference. No, I did not. It's like all the signs were there. Like, he hated his mom. He only stayed, he only was seen at night, and now he's dissecting birds. Yeah. And at night, that's like weird to me.

It's very. You're dissecting them with no light. Very strange. It's very creepy. Jack the Rippery. It's very creepy. Jack the Ripper actually was one of his idols. Oh, hey, there you. go because he would do his dissections like with no street lights and everybody was like how the hell did

do that yeah well that's what that's what stephen wanted to do as well look at this guy stephen now by all account stephen's father sadly was like really trying his best for all of his kids he was actually the one who saved up all the money that it would cost to send stephen to a better school the queen elizabeth grammar school but it didn't end up being worth it because stephen was not interested in school or people his own age at all okay while he was in school his teacher said that he would just like sit the back and not contribute to any discussion or engage with any of the other students. And the other students said that he was like really in his own little world. Like he was not not entertaining any other conversations at all.

You see them a lot with these kind of people. Only just chilling in the back. They totally seal them off themselves off from everything else. Yeah. And he really loved like those like fantasy worlds. Like I was literally just going to say I guarantee he was super into fantasy. He was super. That was literally my next sentence.

He was really into like dragons. He would read books about dragons and like dragons slayers and shit like that. Which by itself is not weird at all. And it's like, but when it's when it's coming out of that like trauma. Yeah. That's when it's. That's when they don't know how to, they don't know how to shut it off. Well, because that's like a coping mechanism.

Exactly. Like you go to another place in your world. It's like a, it's like a disassociative thing. And normally children like who don't have trauma know when to shut that off and when to join the real world and wanted to play with friends and want to talk to family and aunts are teachers right the kids that went through what he's going through that's where they live and sometimes that can become their actual real world now this is scary too because well this part isn't scary he also really loved martial arts

but this next part is scary because on one on more than one occasion he got into trouble for bringing weapons to school the weapons scarily enough for things like throwing stars. Oh, yeah, those scary-ass, like really sharp things. Yeah, I had to Google it, and then it brought me to Amazon, and I was like, no, I don't want to purchase one. Do you want to buy one? I'm like, don't mess up my Amazon suggested.

Yeah, don't want that. And he also would bring like a kind of dagger to school. Oh, that's not okay. And knowing what we know now about this guy, that was like enough to send a shiver down my spine. Yeah. You're bringing that shit to school when you're like 13 and then we know what you're going to do later.

That's terrifying. Now, he ended up dropping out of school. which is why I said it wasn't worth it to spend the money. He turned 16 and then he was like, I'm all set. And he started getting into trouble very quickly. It started out with shoplifting as it always does. But things quickly escalated and he moved on to things like pulling a knife on a store manager and slashing the guy's face open. That's a big leap.

The usual. That's a big leap. You know, the manager had actually caught Stephen in the middle of shoplifting and he like tried to stop him and that's when Stephen pulled out the knife. and slashed his face open. Jesus. That's like going to like try to actually kill someone. Oh, absolutely. You're putting a knife into their face.

You don't know what you're going to hit. All Stephen wanted to do was kill someone from a very young age. Very clear. No, he spent three years in prison for that attack. And while he was in prison, he was telling anyone who would listen to him that his main goal in life was to become a serial killer. Like that's what he wanted to do. He wanted the notoriety.

He wanted to copy other people. like he loved Jack the Ripper. He had a really specific fascination with the Yorkshire Ripper, Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Suck Cliff. And it also reminds me of like Charles Manson being in jail at a super young age and telling everybody like I should stay here. Yeah, like just letting everybody know. Don't let me out.

This is the plan. And because they're telling everybody what they're going to do when they're released. But obviously, I think like we said in the Charlie Manson episode, that's not a crime. You can't keep somebody in prison longer for that. So I don't really know what you're supposed to do. So after the three years, he was released. But again, quickly landed himself in the slammer for pulling a knife on a young girl and holding it to her throat. Jesus.

And just a year before that, actually, he had been sentenced to 100 hours of community service for having a gun in his possession. That was actually the gun that he was still using to shoot birds and dissect them. Oh. So, yeah, we've got a lot going on. We have a lot going on. We do. And it was at 22 years old that Stephen was officially diagnosed as a schizoid psychopath. Now, that's a different disorder than schizophrenia.

But according to the Mayo Clinic, it can have some similar symptoms to schizotipial, yeah, schizotipal personality disorder and schizophrenia. So like the things that they share in common are a severely limited ability to make social connections and a lack of emotional expression. Okay. So in this case, it really makes a lot of sense because, he actually received that diagnosis after pulling a knife again on some girls that he thought were making fun of him. But they were like, we weren't making fun of him like we thought he wasn't

on the joke. But it's like he couldn't make that. But he couldn't understand that that was the case. Right. Again, reality is not something he's able to really grasp. Right. But then looking more and more into this, like, yes, that's absolutely a mental illness, but people with this mental illness still know the difference between right and wrong. Yeah. So it's not okay that he went on to murder a lot of people. Yeah. So now while all that was going on, Stephen met a woman named Zeta Pinder. I guess they met after putting out an ad in the lonely hearts column, which usually would be adorable. Right? Because there's a few killers that use the lonely hearts. So now it just has this ominous, like, spooky feeling to it. Every time I hear it. I couldn't figure out if, like, he had put the ad out

or if she had or like they both did and somehow met. I don't know which one of them did it. I don't know. But that's how they met. And they met at a pub for some dinner for their first date. And things actually went really well. But looking back on their relationship as an entire hole, there was a lot of red flags. I'm shocked. For one thing, Stephen gave Zeta a picture of himself that he had professionally taken on their first date.

I was just like, screaming. Here I had this picture taken of me. I'd like you to keep it. I am screaming. It's like in senior year when you like give your friends your senior picture and you're like, put this in your wallet. Put this in your wallet. But different and a little bit weird.

Wow. She, like, laughed it off at the time. I think she said she called him a poser. She was like, oh, look at you, you little poser. She thought it was funny. But knowing what she knows now, she's like, oh, okay. Cool. Awesome. She remembered that he really liked horror films, not exactly like in the way that me, you and Caleb, like them, though. She said, like, whenever someone was murdered, he would just start laughing hysterically. Yeah, that's not liking horror films. That's not that. That's not that. That's like a murder. That's like watching thinking. And again, he doesn't know how to separate it from reality. So to him, that seems like reality. Exactly. That's funny to him. That's his reality. That's his reality. He also was like a super, super paranoid sleeper. And if you don't like bugs, you should probably skip this part.

Oh no. But Zeta said that he was absolutely terrified of insects crawling in his ears in his sleep. So he always had to plug his ears with cotton wool. Oh, which just made my, I hate ear shit. Now there was one night he spent with Zeta. And she told him that she didn't have any cotton. She was like, you probably like, hey, you used it all. I don't have any. You stuck it all in your ears. And he was like, okay, like, I'm not getting into bed with you then. Like, I can't go to sleep.

And he stayed up all night. Wow. Yes. Yeah, that's a problem. Definitely like some paranoia mixed in there as well. Which is, honestly, that's sad. But that is. You can feel bad for like that part of it, but don't feel bad overall like we

exactly. Now, for the first part of their relationship, which lasted a total of two years, Zeta just assumed that Stephen lived with his parents because she didn't ever see his apartment. Yeah. But somehow she found out that he had his own place. What? And she was like, um, we've been together for two years and like this entire time I kind of just thought you lived with your parents. Like, um, can I see your house? Like weird. Am I allowed to go there? And he was like, oh yeah, like I'll take you tomorrow. Let's go. Like two years ago. Like two years ago. Well, shit. Like, of course you can come over. Should have just asked. You want to come to my place?

I just, I didn't want to, I didn't want to assume that you wanted to come. So I just never brought it up. Like, what? It's so bizarre. Well, there was a reason he didn't take her there. Oh, there was? Yes. I'm shocked.

And Stephen picked her up and the two of them just drove over to his place. He lived in a third floor apartment in Bradford, not far from the Red Light District. And as they walked in the door, Stephen just started showing her around, like showing her different knickknacks that he had, his names for certain things. Zina was horrified. Uh-oh. absolutely horrified because there was a lot of stuff playing around that was like super creepy. He had horror films lined up on the shelves in the living room, but there weren't just like

30 horror films. There was hundreds of them. There was also like hundreds and hundreds of books about serial killers. And when I first read that, I was like, I literally, when I first read that, I was like, okay, so he and Elena share a decor style. I was literally like, uh-huh. Did they share a Pinterest board? Like, but then I got to the part of the research where we... I'm feeling attacked here, okay? Okay, well, this is where you're not going to feel so attacked. Because I got into the part where they talk about his crossbows and samurai swords that were just like laying around.

Okay. Which you don't have. No, I don't have that. You do have like autopsy shit, though, which is a little bit weird. I do. But, you know, but I love you. And I know for a fact you haven't killed anybody and never once. No, I have not.

So it's okay. So, again, that might not sound like super alarming to a community like all of us. But in some sources, I also read that a lot of his surfaces in the apartment were just covered in plastic, like Dexter style. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, that'll get a little bit weird. For sure.

I mean, I just want to know, like, was there, was there, like, did he give a reason? Did anyone ask? I don't know if she asked. I think she was just like, I'm really not feeling well. I'd like to leave. Because I feel like I would at least be like, hey, like nice plass. Like, what's the plan? Like, are you renovating or something happened? Like, I would need at least something. I think there was a lot of context clues for her. And she was like, you know, I don't think I'm going to ask what the plan is. Because I think after this, I'm never coming back here. So I don't really need a lot of like context

clues. Yeah. I mean, that's probably the safest way to go about it. Yeah. To be honest. She said that she had immediately like a super bad feeling about this place. And she was like, I just thought this guy was like a cool goth dude. Like I did not think that this is what I was going to walk into. Yeah. So she was like, well, she, so she did ask. She was like, what's the deal with all this dark stuff? Like, you know, and he goes, I just like stuff like this.

But it's fair. It's absolutely fair. But other than like the plastic. Like you just like plastic on your surface. Because that one, everything else I'm like, okay, like whatever. Like, do you like what you like? That's fine. But then the plastic, and that's why I was like, but again, I don't know how to say that. I don't know how to like that. I don't know how to like justify that. I don't really know how to be like you like what you like. But I mean,

then again, think about it. Like people put those plastic things on their couch. I was just going to say, like, especially like, I'm not saying everybody who has this is old, but older people tend to have like the plastic on the couch that you would sit on. It's like br-w-war-r-r-r- I never understand the point. And it's, you know, it's so you don't hurt the furniture. Maybe he was just really, maybe he just really loved his furniture, but, or maybe he was trying to set up a kill room, like Dexter. Probably that. I think that's what brought, that's, I was trying.

I can't get there. Yeah. Now again, just to like really, like, drive this point home, I only saw that in like a few sources, but I felt like it was worth mentioning because. Yeah. You know, we can't totally rule it out. I wasn't there. Zeta was, though.

And she was like, I'd like to leave now. And she made something up on the fly. And she was like, can you drive me home? And then the next day, she called Stephen and broke up. And broke up with him. Brooked up with him. She just broke it right. She just broke up with him.

And now it would be 10 years before she saw him again, except it wasn't in person. She saw his face flash across the TV screen one day. And all of her feelings about this man were confirmed. But before we get to that, we have one more thing to talk about. I was like, how? You have to talk about the second woman that Stephen dated. Okay. Her name was Kathy.

And their relationship was absolutely terrifying. Kathy worked as a prison officer actually. And when she met Stephen, she thought, again, he was just like a cool goth dude. Like she liked his style. She was into it. He had the look down. He had like super long black hair. He would dress in like dark clothes and trench coats and stuff like that.

And she was like, oh, hell yeah. Like that's my vibe. Yeah. It would have been a whole ass vibe if he wasn't such a monster. Exactly. But it was only two weeks into their relationship that Kathy started to get to know a completely different person. this was not the guy that she thought he was. He was controlling. He was violent and he was willing to go to

great lengths to get her to do whatever he wanted. She wasn't allowed to go anywhere if he wasn't with her. And really early on in the relationship, he started talking about like, you need to move in with me. I want you to live with me. Yeah. I don't want you to live on your own. But she couldn't move in with him because she had two dogs of her own and he, I don't think he could have them in his apartment. So instead of accepting that, he decided that the dogs were getting more attention. than him and he didn't like that. Oh, no. No, don't worry. Nothing happens to the dogs.

That's detrimental to their life. But still. Yeah. So he went over to Kathy's house because he was like, I'm going to do something about this. And he offered her like some kind of antidepressant. And she was already on a different kind of medication for depression. And Stephen knew that these two particular medicines couldn't be mixed.

Like it could be deadly if they mixed. So she took what he gave her because she didn't really know exactly what it was. or she trusted him what he said it was. And she immediately started to feel really weird. She was getting delirious. And she said that as she like started to tell him like, I'm feeling really off. And like she was just like really panicking. He stood over her laughing hysterically and just went, you're dying.

Oh. What the fuck? Laughing like maniacally and just went, you're dying. And think about like you're in, because think about like a panicking. moment. Yeah. And all you're searching for is comfort. And then you just add like 50 pounds of panic onto your chest. And somebody's standing over you laughing saying you're dying. Oh my God. And it's like gave me. It's not just someone. It's your fucking boyfriend. Like what? Holy shit. She luckily was he refused to call an ambulance for her. So she luckily was able to drive herself to

the hospital. Like she could have died on the way there. And she had to spend the night to be treated. And luckily she was able to get treated and everything was okay. But when she got home the next day, her dogs were gone. And Stephen told her that her house had been robbed, which was super duper weird because nothing else in the house was touched. It was just the dogs that were gone. And a neighbor confirmed that he, so he left when she went to the hospital, but a neighbor said that he came back later around like 3.45 in the morning and he took the dogs with him. And later, Kathy found out that he just like gave the dogs away to someone. So he gave her dogs away.

Honestly, that is horrific. Right. But then she was like, I have nowhere to go. Like, I don't know what to do. Like, so she moved in with him. She had no choice. He literally forced her to move in with her, with him, excuse me. Now, their relationship, by the way, only lasted a year.

All of this happened within the span of a year. Oh, my God. And throughout the rest of their dating, Stephen would regularly beat Kathy. He split her lip. he broke her nose. He stabbed her in the legs on multiple occasions. What? He told her one of the reasons that he liked her was that she fought back and it gave him, quote,

a thrill. No. Now, in 2001, Kathy found out that she was pregnant. Oh, Kathy. So now there's really no way out of this. Oh, man. But Stephen's behavior completely changed. He was so excited to be a dad.

He was like, we're going to do this. Like, I'm so excited. But he was definitely still an asshole and he didn't go to most of Kathy's appointments with her, including one where she found out that unfortunately her pregnancy was ectopic. So she was going to have to lose the baby. Yeah, that's really sad. So sad. And she said she was like, I was sad about it, but it was very early on in the pregnancy.

So in her mind, she was like, for me, it hadn't become a baby yet. Like a total baby. And, you know, for some people, it's, you know, everybody feels different. Yeah. And I'm sure that was also like she probably. kind of talk, told herself that to get through it off. And at least I'm glad she was able to like kind of cope that way. Deal in it some way. Right. Because that's like really, that's like fucked up. Etopic pregnancies are really, really dangerous and really scary. 100% you can die. Yeah,

it's scary. And it's very traumatic. I looked into it because I was like, do you always have to lose the baby? And there's been like some super rare cases where people have had ectopic pregnancies and like delivered. Wow. It was like, I think I literally found like two. I was. I was like, I was like, going to say that must have been extraordinarily rare because usually the baby can't usually live outside of the womb no of course and you can't usually have a baby outside of the womb that can that kills you easily right it's really scary thing that happens yeah and it's sad because there's no way of preventing it it just happens no it's literally just luck of the draw right that's one of those things or not luck yeah but so stephen's reaction she came home and she told him and she said that his reaction was

very strange. She said he took the positive pregnancy test stick, which we had kept, and he made a coffin for it. Which, sure, like, some of the things that people are, like, thinking are strange for him are just, like, he's not like your average every day Joe Schmo. Like, he's into, like, some darker stuff. And, you know, if he wants to make a coffin for the baby that he lost and put the pregnancy stick in there, okay. That's the thing. It's like, you know, you can't judge everything. Like, some of these things are like they of course now right it's all it rings very very scary and strange because looking back those things all line up of each other and at the time you might be like okay like this is a lot yeah but like you when you're judging it off of like you know separate events

you're just kind of like yeah sure that's a little weird but like people are weird people want to react however they want to react we're weird but right now when we know what happens it's like like, that's weird. That's a real weird. Now, though, this was when Kathy finally had the chance to get out of the relationship. So they were going on vacation. And she actually enlisted the help of one of Stephen's ex-girlfriends, Amanda. And while they were on vacation, Amanda went to Stevens Flat, they call it, and packed up all of Kathy's things that were at Stevens Flat and set them aside for her. Wow. Yeah. I love that. And when they got back, Kathy was able to escape Stephen. because of that. Amazing. She got her dog who was staying with his dad and like quite literally just

went into hiding for the next few years. Wow. But somehow Stephen would find her, find out where she was, or trick her into speaking with him again. There was one occasion where he actually came to her parents' house. He like knew that she was there somehow, came to her house, slashed all the tires on her car, and then crashed his car on the way home on purpose and told the responding officers to please call her. Now, when she tried to get to him, because she's an amazing person, apparently, who just, like, wanted to help him, she, like, tried to get to him, but I guess he called her and was like, yeah, I actually slashed all your tires, so you're going to have to figure out a different way to get here. She was like, you're going to need a new method of transportation. Are you fucking

kidding me? What? No. I love that he's just like, yeah, I slashed all your tires. But, like, please come rescue me. But, like, you literally halted the production of me coming to see you. Yeah, it's like, you stopped that, sir. You're annoyed. You're. annoying. So you're annoying. This next part is a trigger warning for animal cruelty. So, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. If you just want to schedule a 15 second, skip ahead. Gotta go pee, go pee. Okay. So there was another time that he called her, knowing how much she loved animals, and he would do this from time to time. He, it's so hard to even say this. He had cut the tail off of a little puppy that he had just got. Fuck. He got the puppy, like, hopped up on like, volume, I think it was,

and just decided that he was going to like cut the tail off himself. Fuck this guy. It's so. Fuck this guy. It makes me so angry. Oh, that like makes my stomach hurt. He called her and told her this was happening, knowing that it would get her to come to him to rescue this puppy.

And luckily, she was able to get to him and take the puppy. And she saved the puppy's life. Oh, good. Okay. But oh, yeah. Trauma. But he would continue to stalk her for years to come. That's horrifying.

He stalked her for a total of 10 years. years. They dated for one year. And that makes me crazy because like the laws with stocking and shit are so fucked up and just don't help the victims. And it makes me crazy because you see these cases and you're like, who's helping her? Well, because it wasn't until the late 90s in our country in America where the stocking laws got put in a place. I'm not so sure about like England, but this was like the late 90s. Yeah. And it's like, come on. And even still to this day, like, they're still not as tightened up as they should be. Right. There's not a lot that they can do. They just don't treat it as dangerous enough as what it is.

And it is. It's a lead-up. Like, a serial killer stalk their victims. Exactly. And they treat it like, oh, well, you know, they're not doing anything to hurt. And it's like, no, they are. They're violating people's privacy and right to live their life. And they're escalating. That's an escalation. Well, that's going to happen. This one was absolutely an escalation. They need to treat it like that. They do, for sure. There's certain things that people do that are not murder that they need to treat like it's ready to be escalated to murder because they are always a lead up to it. Well, because exactly, how many cases do we have where we show like the stalking period or even just an attempted murder, an attempted rape or a rape or murder when it gets to that point. You know, like you have to stop that. Exactly. The entire point of law enforcement. Exactly.

So this is one of those cases where something should have happened because he would show up at places that he knew that he knew. knew she was going to be at. He would text her scary things all the time. She'd change her number. He'd find it. And he would usually do these things because she took out multiple protective orders, but he would usually do them right when the protective order ended. And it was going to take some time for the next one. Now, she lived with her parents for like a long time or she would live in like little like hidden places that she thought that he wouldn't find, but he would always find. But then I guess she went through a period where like he didn't find her for a little bit. So she felt like it was finally safe to get her own place. Yeah. And she did, but he found out where she lived. Of course.

And she had two cats and then she had two outdoor cats that like weren't hers. They were strays, but they came to her house all the time. Yeah. She thought they considered them hers. And he knew that. And he found out where she lived. And while she was away on vacation, he killed the outdoor cats, graffitied her house and painted all of the windows yellow. Spray painted all of the windows yellow. What the fuck? Right. Like, what the fuck? So law enforcement was very, very well aware of him. I was just going to say. And at that point, what do you expect someone to do? To spray paint somebody's house yellow? And I think he spray painted like slag on the side of her house. What the fuck? It's fucked, dude. And he would consistently find her. And it's like, what do you expect her to do at this point?

Because she can't go anywhere. Like, this has been 10 years of her life. At some point. she's going to have to defend herself and she's going to have to make this stop. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, what do you think is going to happen here? Nothing is going to end up good. Like, this is not going to have a good ending if somebody doesn't fucking help her. And it doesn't, unfortunately. Luckily, Kathy was able to get away from him eventually and Zeta was able to get away from him. But these were not the only women that he tried to intimidate. There were a lot of other women who had similar run-ins with him that they just happened to get away from him before anything got too serious. there was actually a sex worker who literally like considered him like a brother. He would let her come shower at his house and like he would make her food.

And she was like he was a really nice guy. And like I literally stayed at his house on multiple occasions. And I never had any inkling that he was like this. Fuck? So it was like a very, it was like a choice for certain women. It absolutely was. And there were multiple women that he contacted through MySpace that felt super uncomfortable with the things he would say to them.

He loved MySpace by the way. one woman said that he knew her location and was able to tell her where she was at a certain time that he should not have known and she ignored that message because she was like I'm not going to feed into this like that's terrifying but like what am I going to say so he sent her another message that was like really irritated and was like I know where you are like fucking answer me like what crazy so yeah and like I said he was a big MySpace guy and he used the name Venperia for his profile, which later on becomes like his alter ego. Now, Venn, I guess, was short for Stephen.

And then pariah, obviously is somebody like a pariah of society. So that was like what he went by like after a little while. Now, around 2007, the police were like, hey, maybe we should like check in on that guy who told everyone that he wanted to become a serial killer and then stalked his ex to the point where she had to get multiple protective orders. Maybe we should like see what he's up to. Yeah, let's see if everything's okay over there. Yeah, like, let's check that out.

Maybe he's chilled out and everything's fine. Yeah, they were also catching wind that he was reading books about dismemberment out in the open, as well as taking his gigantic pet lizards on walks around the halls of his apartment on a dog leash. So like shit's really escalating here. He had pet lizards. This is a lot. That he would take on walks around his apartment in a dog leash. If I ever saw a man walking around my apartment with a three-foot lizard on a dog leash,

I don't know who I would call, but I would call someone. Oh my God, like yeah, I don't, I don't even think they could handle it. I don't think so easy. That's a case for lizard busters. He would also like take them into clubs. Like he would, he like to go to like clubs at night and stuff. And he would bring his lizards. He would bring his lizards in like a backpack. Oh, that would probably stress them out so much. That makes me so sad. Well, in lizards like especially like, they had like very specific like temperature conditions that they need to be in. And he would also feed them live. mice. He also had snakes and he would feed the snakes live mice, which makes me so sad. But I think that's like a thing if you have. Oh yeah. Absolutely. That's why I don't want to have a snake or a lizard.

But this next part is not a thing. A man once saw him eat a baby mice himself. A live baby mice. He ate a live baby mice. A mouse. Mouse. I'm stressed. I'm stressed. So the English is hard. Past tense is not a thing right now. He ate a baby mouse. Why did he do that? That was alive for Scare Factor. I don't know. That was like a live, like a live baby mouse. He just ate it. He ate a baby mouse that was once living. I don't have anything to say about that. That just feels very Ozzy Osbourne. It does. So, yeah, the police were getting, getting wind of this. So they were like, oh, they're just getting wind of this. Yeah, you know. So they decided to call the housing association that was in charge of Stevens building. And they were like, hey, can you like keep tabs on him? That dude that walks those giant lizards.

Yeah, exactly. books about dismemberment and eats mice in the hallway. Can you just like, can you just watch him a little bit? Can you watch him? Would you mind? So they actually, the building was like, hell yeah. And you know what? Let's get a fucking baller CCTV like fucking security footage maker. I'm so glad that the building is doing more than the police. That's good. So they were like, yeah, like we'll even get like a better system for it. So they did. Hell yeah, building. This was also around the time in 2009 when he decided to go back to school and get a master's degree. So, you know, bettering himself. Yeah. I mean, I mean.

he had a thirst for knowledge. Yeah, he went to Bradford University and he decided that he really needed to study the difference between homicides that happened in the 19th century versus today. That's what he was working on in school. Was that a class? I don't understand. Because I'm going to be real. I would have taken that class, but like. Knowing what we know now. I was going to say, but I don't do any of the things he does. But that's, that's, that's a choice. Yeah. So he was just going to class learning about homicides. I was hoping he was going back to like maybe like a philosophy major and he was going to like chill himself out and have some some deep thoughts. No, that was for like lizard walking. That's when he had his deep thoughts. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Um, so they, they had no idea

what they were going to find on that footage eventually, but yeah, they found a lot. They sure did. So let's get into that. Let's get into that. Unfortunately, Susan Rushworth was the first woman to turn up missing when Stephen began strolling the streets, just hunting for women to take back to his apartment. Remember, I said he lived really close to the Red Light District. So he was on the hunt for sex workers especially. Susan herself was born on New Year's Eve, 1965, a holiday baby just like Stephen. Oh, wow. And she too had dropped out of school at 16. So they had a couple of things in common. A year later, she was actually involved in an accident that left her with a brain hemorrhage. So she was 17. And after that, she ended up developing epilepsy.

Oh, geez. So she really had a tough go at things. She was trying to push through the hard times. Soon enough, she met a man who she married and had two kids with. Unfortunately, though, the marriage only lasted 10 years, and they decided to call it quits. And at that point, Susan was struggling with not only epilepsy, but going through a divorce. She's a young woman with two kids. She became depressed.

And eventually, unfortunately, she turned to using drugs to cope. Yeah. So four years after her divorce, she actually met another man and had one more child, but things didn't work out with him either. And she was still struggling with her mental health and drug addiction. So she turned to sex work in the height of her addiction. And she worked as a sex worker for almost 10 years. And this is actually just so sad. At one point, she actually ran into her oldest daughter, who was also doing sex work at the time.

So they kind of like teamed up so that she could take care of her daughter on the streets. Oh, that's really sad. It's so sad, but she wanted to make sure that she was safe and protected. And I think her daughter got out of it and is like living a great life now. But the life that Susan was living was really taking a toll on her physical and mental health. So she decided she wanted to stop using drugs and stop sex work and everything altogether. Like she was ready to start fresh. And around the time she disappeared, she had actually been off of drugs for six weeks.

She was living with her parents and she was helping her mom take care of her dad who was suffering from dementia. Oh my God. So she had really made it a point to like turn things around when this happened. And it seemed like she was on like the right path. A great path. So the last time anybody saw Susan alive, it was June 22nd, 2009. She left home in the morning. She was going to be taking a bus into Bradford to get her methadone prescription to make

sure she could stay off everything that she was on. Yeah. She made some stops along the way. She met some friends for a bit. She made plans with another friend for later in the day. She was supposed to meet this friend. but she never ended up meeting that friend and her prescription was actually never picked up and she was never seen alive again.

So when she didn't turn up that night, her mom was really worried. She was like, I know that Susan was trying to change things and like she was really doing a good job. Like I think that's so tragic. I think something's happened really bad here. So she called the police and she reported Susan missing. But it would be a lot of time before Susan's family would find out what actually happened to her. It's believed that somehow that day she met Stephen Griffiths and was coerced into going back to his place. Like I said, she wasn't believed to be doing sex work at the time of her death.

So it's unclear why she went back to his place, like how he was able to do that. Yeah, but authorities did see that the last outgoing call on Susan's cell phone was to a friend that was also her drug dealer. So they did assume that maybe like she slipped. She was having a slip. And they thought maybe she had relapsed that day and spent a lot of time just like they spent a lot of time looking for Susan in the wrong places. Yeah. And maybe she was looking for more money. Exactly.

Because she had gotten herself like, you know, she had done something that day. Right. Right. And she did more. Yep. And this is a quick way to make money. Exactly. It's so unfortunate.

It is. And this is just so tragic and sad. Her body is still never been recovered. Oh. And Stephen Griffith waltz or Stephen Griffiths won't. say where it is. Of course not. So they do know that Stephen was responsible for her murder, though, because blood was later found inside the bathroom. That was a match for her blood. And when he later confessed to the other murders that we'll talk about, he told authorities

that he attacked Susan with a hammer in his bedroom and then disposed of her body. And he just refuses to say where? Won't say where she is. What a piece of shit. Susan was only 43 years old. Like I said, she was just getting her life back together, and she had just started getting to know her grandchildren. Wow. So this guy is a piece of fucking shit for doing this to a woman like, for doing this to anybody, but a woman like this, it's like so sad.

Yeah. And it's also, you can see how weak these kind of assholes are truly, like deep within their soul because they hang on to that last fucking power grab. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to tell you where she is. And it's like, fuck you. Because I need that. Like, fuck you.

You need that to keep going. or else you know that you'll just fall apart. He's also just a fucking liar too. You're made of bullshit. So if you give up this one last piece of fucking fake power you feel like you have, then you're going to crumble. He is. So it just makes them look even weaker as human being.

And he's a fucking liar and he's an asshole. It's just so annoying. So Stephen would go back out on the streets of Bradford just 10 months later looking for his next victim. And his next victim would be Shelley Armitage. She was 31 years old. She was born September 22nd in 1978. She was beautiful. She was smart.

She was getting all A's in all her classes. And she had a dream of becoming a model someday. She fell in with a rough crowd at school. She started dating the wrong guy when she was 16. She dropped out of school. And she started using party drugs. And then she eventually started doing stronger drugs and just really lost control of everything. One of Shelley's friends remembered her potential to be a model.

she really could have gone far with this. Like she was absolutely gorgeous. And she said there was a potential there that Shelley could have been a beautiful model. That's really sad. It's so sad. But she couldn't model anymore because she was getting sick from addiction and she needed a way to buy the drugs or else she was going to continue to get sicker and sicker. So she turned to sex work.

I really wanted to make a point of getting as many details as I could about these women that lost their lives. Because so many of the sources that I was reading just like barely mentioned. mentioned anything personal about them. Yeah, that happens a lot. And they just glossed over who they were and only called them sex workers and actually didn't even use that term. Yeah. She was a lot more than a sex worker. She was a mother. She was a girlfriend and she was a dog lover. Like there were so many things about her and these women that... Yeah, it doesn't define them. You need to make, you need to humanize them a little more. Yeah, exactly. A lot more. Now, the last time that Shelley was seen was the night of April 26, 2010. She was working in the

red light district right near Stevens apartment. And when she didn't come home that night, her boyfriend reported her missing and the search was on. Now, they knew that this had to be serious because she had recently gotten a new puppy that she was just like head over heels in love with. And they were like, she would not have left that puppy. No. Like she loved him so much.

So tons of people in the area were questioned. Authorities were putting two and two together and realizing that Shelley and Susan's death were definitely connected. And later, authorities would learn that. that Stephen had brought Shelley back to his apartment under the guise of paying her for her services. When she got into the apartment, though, he shot her with a crossbow and then used his cell phone to record the rest of the night's events. What?

Yeah. So he took public transportation to get rid of Shelley's remains, and at some point or another, he ended up leaving his cell phone behind. Oh, no. It was stolen and it was sold to a pawn shop. While the owner of the shop was like clearing the phone, I guess, of the pictures and video so he could resell it, they came across a terrifying video. This is a big trigger warning. The video showed a woman lying hogtied on a bed with the words spray painted on her back that said,

My Sex Slave. What? Spray painted on her back. Then the video jumped to a bathroom where the woman was very clearly deceased at that point and was being actively dismembered. And they could hear a band's voice narrating what was going on in the background, excuse me. And the voice said, I am Venperiah. I am the bloodbath artist. Here is a model that is assisting me. What the fuck? A model that is assisting me. Nope. That is a woman that you killed. And most likely tortured. Oh, did torture. That, wow. And that pawns shop owner just like got changed for the rest of his life. literally got changed for the route. Like the far-reaching ripples of this situation.

Therapy. Therapy would be needed. I can't imagine living with that. You just go to work one day. No. Just clearing dad off a phone. No. And that's what you come across.

I mean, like we have said before, like, we've accidentally seen pictures that we didn't want to see, like, during research and everything. I've never seen a video. It fuck with you. It does fuck with you. Like you wake up in the middle of the night and you, that image will pop into your head. Yes. I can't imagine.

That Leslie and Downy one will forever haunt me. Always. I hate that I saw that. I literally, I will wake up in the middle of the night sometimes, and that's, I'll find, like, that will pop in my head. Like, we both just shuddered in our closing our eyes, trying to clear it from our head. I hate it so much. So I can't even fathom seeing a video of that woman hog-tied and spray-painted with my sex slave, and then it jumps to a video where you're probably not even ready for it. You're not ready for anything.

When are you ever ready for this? No. But jumping to a video of him actively dismembering her on a bathroom floor while narrating it. Literally. I mean, what the fuck? And you're like, I'm the bloodbath artist and this is a model that's assisting me. Like, what the fuck? He's so sick.

Gross. In every way. It's so twisted. Wow. And unfortunately, I feel like I say unfortunately so much, but this is all unfortunate. It's all fitting. That video wasn't seen in time to save Stephen's last victim's life. Suzanne Blameymy.

Myers, I believe is how you say it. She was actually a friend of Shelley's. She was 36 years old when she was last seen. She was born on February 26th, 1974. She was the oldest of three children. And her family was a super, super close family. They were pretty well off. Suzanne's mom was able to stay home with the kids while her father worked. And when he wasn't working, they would go on nice vacations. They actually went on an African safari. Damn. And I read one article where like there was a classmate of Suzanne's and she was like, yeah, I was always wicked jealous of her family. Like, they were awesome. Growing up, Suzanne had dreamed of being a nurse and she actually started going to school to become a nurse, but she got too involved in the party scene during her

time off. She got involved with a guy who was into drugs. He got her into drugs. Slowly, but surely, she fell out of her routine of going to school and studying and she would go out with her boyfriend. She would go to raves and parties. And again, she would quickly become addicted to the drugs that she had just started experimenting with. Like it was just supposed to be, it never starts off with like a full-blown addiction. Of course not. Yeah. But that's never how someone goes into it.

No. But this led to a heroin addiction. And when Susan's marriage broke up, she moved in with a known drug dealer in the area. This guy, I think his, his name is If Lee Hussein, I think is how you say it. He got Suzanne addicted to crack cocaine and basically forced her out onto the streets as a sex worker. so that she could pay for the drugs and he wouldn't have to. Wow. And he would beat her mercilessly if she came home with less than $200. Wow. This is tragic in every way imaginable. It's sad. Like I just can't imagine this, this life. I can't imagine. Like it's heartbreaking.

Yeah, I truly can't imagine. Now, Stephen Griffiths, excuse me, met Suzanne. She went by Amber while she was working. So he met Amber. He took her back to his apartment like he did with the previous woman, but this time he did something different. He kept her alive for two days. Now, at one point, she somehow was able to escape and she ran out of the flat. And as she ran out of the apartment, Stephen shot her with a crossbow in the hallway, in the middle of the hallway. And now obviously quickly realized that he was caught on camera because remember that updated CCTV system? Yeah, when the building did more than the police. Yeah. He didn't care, though. The video footage showed Stephen shoot Suzanne one more time, this time in the head with a crossbow again. He then dragged

her body into his apartment. 20 minutes later, he emerged from the apartment. He was caught on camera leaving his apartment holding a crossbow, and he walked right up to the camera and gave it the middle finger. And you showed me this photo. And we'll post the photo. It is haunting. So haunting. Haunting. And that's not it. Because I was in the middle of researching this case when I showed that picture to Elena. This is another thing that happened that I hadn't even found out about yet. Oh my God. Ten minutes later, he was caught on tape again, and this time he was holding a drink and he made a cheers motion at the camera. Like, cheers. Cheers. Cheers, guys. You just caught me on camera murdering a woman with a crossbow. Cheers. What's up?

He doesn't give a shit. No. He, this is everything he's ever wanted. Oh, yeah. He wants to be a serial killer. He wants to. He thinks this is like his badass look. Oh, yeah. Like at me shooting a woman running away with a crossbow? So fucked. Wow. Now, the poor man that found this footage was just working for like a management company going through some footage. I think is, I keep saying I think, I think, like I didn't write it down.

I think. His name was Peter Gee. I think that's how you pronounce it is what I was going to say. Now, he was going over all the cameras on Monday, May 24th, 2010. He immediately called police when he saw this and they were able to review the footage as well. It was as clear as day that that was Stephen Griffiths and it was clear as day that he was at least responsible for this missing woman's death, but they had a pretty good feeling that they could now link him to the other two women as well. Yeah. So 60 police officers surrounded the building

that afternoon and they were able to force entry into his apartment. And as they broke down the door, he literally just called from one of the rooms, I'm in here. I can't. Over here, guys. I literally. really can't. Thanks for coming. I'm in here. Yeah, good of you to show up. Right here. The fuck. It was like he had waited for this moment his entire life because he had. He had. I was going to say. Now, when they arrested him and read him his rights, his response was, I am Osama bin Laden. You're not though. That's not the truth. That's not true. Thank you, though. Now, later, he was being interviewed by police and he told them that he had not only killed six women total. They were like, he was like, I've killed more and they were like how many and he held up his hands and did six. But he also said, Six total, I believe. Actually, that's a good question, but I think he meant six total. But he also told them that he ate parts of these three women that he was being questioned about. He said he didn't have much time for the human race.

Okay. Now, while he was being held, they were able to search the river air because a black bag had floated to the surface that had been reported. The bag contained the head of Suzanne Blaymire's with a crossbow still lodged into her head. lodged into her skull. That must have been the most macabre thing to see. I can't even imagine. A head in a bag with a crossbow arrow. Obviously, all the cases that we cover are so dark, but this one has such a level of just

like, what the fuck? Wow. Now, they were able to find some of her other remains, and they were chopped into what they said was nearly 80 pieces. What? Now, she actually had to be buried in like a smaller coffin, like a baby-sized coffin, because they just didn't have all of her remains. Oh my gosh. They never found everything. They also found other bags in that river containing weapons like hacksaws and razors. And they were like, oh, like these are probably his. Wonder what these are for. So they let them, they like sent them to be forensically tested after letting them dry out. And when they were tested, a small piece of spine was found and determined to belong to Shelley.

Holy shit. Yeah. So they were. were able to at least. I can't believe they were able to find that. Seriously. Like, what? It's so crazy. Science. Science. Now, Stephen told the investigators almost everything they wanted to know besides where they could find Susan Rushworth's body. He told them, quote, the murders, they were horrific, butcher dismemberments, eating parts of all three of them. In the first case with Susan Rushworth, in the aftermath, I got the cooker, was taken apart and gotten rid of. So it was six months without a cooker before someone moving out of the flats gave me the present one, which you will find traces of Shelley Amitajan.

But the third one, I actually just went for it, tried eating bits of her raw. So now he's saying that he's eaten these women. Now, an insane amount of evidence was taken from Stephen's apartment, which was how they linked him to Susan's death in the first place. But there was no evidence to prove that he had actually eaten them. So he might just be saying that's just for shock value. They think he was saying it for shock value. And they think the same thing with the number of victims. like I said, he hinted at six.

But the investigators were like, they think it was just the three women that we do know of. Yeah, it sounds like he's just a big, he likes the shock about it. I mean, obviously he flipped off the camera and shit and like cheers to it. Theater. It's theater. And they think that he gained, he tried to do this to gain more notoriety because, again, he wanted to become a prolific serial killer. That makes sense.

A professor of criminology, though, named David Wilson once said, quote, The key to understanding Griffiths is to realize that he was fixated by the idea of fame. He was like a nightmarish version of a wannabe X-Factor contestant. Wow. I was like, wow. Wow, that's a great way to describe that. Honestly, like, perfect sense. So Stephen Griffiths did what BTK did, and he dubbed himself the crossbow cannibal.

Oh, get out of here. And he did this the first time he appeared in court. He was asked to state his full name for the court, and that was his answer. I am the crossbow cannibal. No. No one was impressed. You're Stephen. You're Stephen.

Fuckface McGee. Yeah. You're just Stephen. You're an ass hat. Now, on December 21st, 2010, he did plead guilty to all three murders, and he received a life sentence. The judge on the case told the court, the circumstances of these murders are so wicked and monstrous. They leave me in no doubt that the defendant should be kept in prison the rest of his life. Jesus.

So Stephen has gone on hunger strikes while he's incarcerated. He attempted to end his life, I think, like six different times at this point. But he's still kicking and having an absolutely terrible time in prison. Well, that's good. And actually, Kathy said she was like, that's the worst place he could be because he's like very antisocial and like he's forced to be around other people. So. And he's not getting to like be powerful in there. Oh, and he definitely hates it. Now, one of Stephen's last MySpace updates quoted Thomas Harris's novel, the Red Dragon. He wrote, he is going to become something that other people find astounding and awe-inspiring. And then went on to say, what will this pseudo-human do one wonders? Poor Stephen pretended to be me. but he was only the rapping. He knew towards the end that I supplied the inner core of iron. Hatred bound tightly in flesh. At very long last, the time has come to act out.

That was posted the night before Susan, excuse me, that was posted the night before Suzanne Blaymires was murdered. That's fucked up. And also don't fuck up Red Dragon. Yeah, like, don't do that. Don't do that. But how haunting is that that the night before he murdered someone, he wrote that?

At very long last, the time has come to act. out. That's not acting out. No. Like, fuck you, Stephen. You're a murdering piece of shit. Fuck you. But I don't want to end this with him because that's what he would want. Of course. I want to remember the women who lost their lives and I like to finish this by just sharing what their families had to say about them. So Suzanne Blaymeyer's mother wrote on a wreath that was carried on top of her hearse. You will always be my shining star. Oh, which made me want to cry. Yeah. Susan Rushworth's family has begged Stephen Griffiths to tell them where her is, but he refuses.

Of course. Her mother said, people talk about the death penalty for Griffiths, but I don't believe in it because Griffiths still has secrets. He knows where my Susan is. And if he was dead, then there would be no chance of him giving up that information. Yeah, it's true. It is. And Shelley's family read a poem at her funeral by Joanna Fuch's, I believe.

It's called A Better Place, and it read, she's in a better place right now than she's ever been before. All the pain is gone, and now she's at rest. Nothing troubles her anymore. They also said that she was loving and kind even when her life changed and she cared and helped for everyone, especially the girls on the streets. And you know what? Here he was totally thinking that he was killing women who wouldn't have friends, wouldn't have family, wouldn't have anyone that missed them. Meanwhile, two of his victims were friends. Exactly. And did have all of these women had families and children.

These are how stupid these dudes are. That they just assume that you're a sex worker. You must not. have any connection to the outside world at all. Doesn't matter. And it's like, nope, fucker. They have friends, family, people who love them. They have connections to the outside world. Like, fuck off. Well, and actually, I wanted you to say what you had said to me the other day, because we were talking about this case and I was saying how frustrating it was that because these women were sex workers, they were labeled like, they were labeled prostitutes and many of the things that I read. Yeah. And we were saying, like, because people would be like, well, it's a high risk lifestyle. Like, what do you say? And it's like, okay, yeah, sure, it is. So.

is being a race car driver. Yeah, you make that choice. And it's like, so when they die in a car crash, should we just be like, well, it's a high risk lifestyle. I don't know what to tell you while he was a race car driver. So no, everybody gets upset and mourns the person because they're a fucking human being. And then we write articles like highlighting what a great person they were. Exactly. Hi, everyone is a person. Exactly. Like we even say like feel bad for the child that became a murderer. Yeah, just don't feel bad for the adult. But it's like, I hate that like high risk thing because it's like, there's a lot of high risk jobs. And when someone dies doing it, you don't just go, well, it was a high risk. Well, the death doesn't matter because they put themselves at risk.

And then you don't go on to just like, it's still shitty. Not shed any light into who they were as a human because they chose a high risk job. That's not all they were. It just frustrates me. It makes me so fucking angry. But wow. That is the case of the Bradford murders. Stephen Griffiths is a fucking asshole. He's a liar and he's disgusting. That is the murderer, Stephen. Yeah. Just Stephen. That's Stephen over there. Dumb ass Stephen. Stephen over there in the fucking garden. Yeah, and there's, I happen to look up like some of the photos of the like CCTV footage. And there's a couple of like that there's one of that they caught of her literally like that they published of her literally like running down the hallway looking back at him. And he is snarling. Like snarling. Like a wild fucking animal, snarling.

I'm not going to post that one. You can look for that yourself. You want to see that yourself. You go look for it. But I'll definitely post the one where he flips off the camera. Just seeing how like just wild. Like animalistic. He was in that moment.

That poor, poor woman. I can't imagine. Because she's looking behind her shoulder seeing a fucking something worse than a wild, terrible animal. Yielding a fucking crossbow. How do you get away from that? Snarling at her. yielding a crossbow.

That's stuff you can't make up. It really is. And can you imagine being Kathy or Zeta? No. Like, oh, I got away from that man or the woman who just like stayed in his flat and would shower there and he was like, he would cook for her and was nice to her. No. She was probably like, why was he nice to me?

I literally can't fathom that. Could that have happened to me? There were so many, there was multiple women who were like, that could have been me. Yeah. That's outrageous. So sad. And it's so sad for these three women's family. nice. That's, it's so crazy to me. It's nuts. Wow. But yes, that is Stephen. Wow. Thank you for that. You're

welcome. I've never heard of that one. I hadn't either. I think I had seen that photo before, like on, like circulating. Yeah, I think it had like popped through somewhere. Yeah, but I've never knew about this case as a whole. That's for sure. Wild. So yeah. Damn. After that, we definitely hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird. But it's the way that you walk around with your lizards on a shun the hallway and then you go on to murder people with the crossbow because that's really just not okay and if you are going to do that like don't do that because i don't want you to thanks bye yeah don't do any of that uh-uh-uh bye