Morbid - Ted Bundy Part 2

Episode Date: June 15, 2018

In Part 2 of our Bundy Bonanza, Ted crescendos with the Chi Omega Murders and finally gets the ending her deserves. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. I'm Elena. And this is morbid. Sorry it has been such a long hiatus. Someone was out of the country. I was. I went on a cruise. And before that, I got a killer migraine that made it so we couldn't record before I left for the cruise.

And I was sad and alone. Yeah. So now you've all just been on the edge of your seats for like a week and a half. So. How are you guys doing? Yeah. So you ready for part two? Ted Bundy

I feel like I don't know how to podcast anymore I know we forgot everything We forgot all of the etiquette That comes along with podcasting What are we? Who am I? I don't know Podcast morbid

Podcast morbid Podcast Mormon Crime True A Evil Onion I was trying to think of another band I was just like totally blanked It's been a long day

Bundy bites Oh Bundy bites I like that Jagging a little bitch Wow listen to you Yeah, look at me. You've got me. You've got it. One of us partied.

The other did not. So it's been a week. Yeah. A lot has happened in a week. Yeah. So I went on a cruise. She's Mortisha Adams. I'm, it was basically Mortisha went on a cruise, basically.

Literally every family picture is just like all these happy people in bright colors and bathing suits. And that Elena's just in black. I literally wore all black everything all the time. Because, and I went on the cruise, paler than pale, and I came back, paler than pale. The sun did not touch my skin. So there's that. I did it right, I think. Yeah?

And, yeah. But I think Ashley actually has a really interesting story that I think you all need to hear because now it's in my brain, so you all need to have it in your brain. I didn't sleep last night because of this story. So, yeah, I had to go pay. pay a bill in Fall River. And I was driving through the Freetown Forest. I was like passing signs for it. And if you're not for best of just Google Freetown Forest. A lot of things will come up and you'll, it's like a deep dark hole that you will dive into. So anyways, I was driving there and all of a sudden

I like hit this kind of like random traffic. And I'm looking ahead and my car is just like in a block of cars and I can see ahead that there's no traffic. So I'm confused and I'm just saying like, what's going on to myself. So the woman ahead of me switched lanes and then I'm driving behind this black car and all this metal from the black car is like like hitting my car and I'm like, that's so what the fuck? So I switch lanes because I didn't want it to like break my windshield or anything. I'm actually like my heart's starting to race faster. I know this is stressing me out. So I look next to me because I'm like, why was all the shit flying at my car? And I see that the front of this car is like completely smushed like clearly had just been in an accident and I made the

fucking mistake of looking at the driver who is a woman holding the wheel at like 10 and 2 with blood pouring down her face like she works at a horror or a haunted house that's like American horror story literally this here and she's like people she's still driving she was still driving and she just looked like so out of it like I called my girlfriend and I was probably the scaredess that I've, and I don't, like, I don't get scared easily. But, and it's, she was probably in shock. She's probably in total shock and just started driving that car after she, like, that's horrifying. But then what went through my head was like, why didn't you stop your vehicle? Like, why didn't you want, like, I like thought of like all the worst

things. Like, why wouldn't you want the cops to pull you over and like, know that you were in an accident? Like, what are you involved in? I guarantee you she was just in full shock. Yeah. Like, but I, I literally, like, I had trouble falling to sleep last night. Yeah. Because it's all I could see in my head. And like, right now, it's all. That's all I can see, and it's so scary. Because I'm picturing, like, that lady from the sixth sense when she gets hit by the bicycleist that gets hit. And she's, he's like, some lady got hit.

She's next to my window. And then they show her, and she's got, like, blood streaming down her face. No, and it was just, like, so weird. And that scared the crap out of me. And the scariest thing, too, it was, like, such a nice day yesterday. Like, yeah. I'm so glad I didn't have my window down. I feel like that would make you feel, like, even, like, 10 times fretier.

That's such, like, a, like, a contrast. There's such a contrast between, like, this beautiful, funny day. Yeah. And this woman with blood pouring down a face. So driving a beat up car. But anyways, I called 911 because I was like, someone. Good on you. And I felt good about it. But yes. The people that were like taking the call were so confused because it sounded like I had been in the accident. They were like, okay, well, did you get like her registration? And you're like, no. No, you see, I'm not involved and she's still driving and it happened so fast. I felt bad. I felt like a moron because I didn't get like a license plate and I didn't know what kind of car it was. No, but it's good. You didn't

fall into the bystander effect thing where you were like, well, someone else will call, and I don't need to call, because that's when nobody calls and that's when nothing gets done. Well, and I like sped way the fuck up, because I was like, get me away from it. Oh, I'd want to get the hell away from it, but I'm glad to you called because something needed to be. I'm wondering if that's like in the news. We got to look it up. I looked it up and I couldn't find anything. We got them, I don't know. We got a, we'll look up a police log or something because that's bananas. Like, I've never, like the hair on the back of my neck stood up. Like that statement gives you, that is spooky. Full on spooky. So it was the scariest. I honestly can say it's the scariest experience I've ever had.

That's so crazy. I can't believe you just rolled up on that. And I looked away and I just didn't look back again. I was like, nope. And it's like, of course, the one time you have to drive in that area. Like, it's not like you drive in that area all the time. I never drive there. The one time you drive in that area, that's what you roll up.

In like three minutes before I was like, oh, Freetown State Forest. Like, spooky. Like, I personally would never fucking step foot in there. No. And then I was like, oh, of course this happens. course. Okay. Oh my God, I love it. It was so scary. So spooky. But Elena has a personal story to tell too, which is not spooky. It's just like, oh yeah. Well, mine's, yeah, mine's not spooky. It's kind of spooky in a different way. But I don't know if we mentioned a couple

times on here like serial killers. I think we did this last week where we were talking about like even if you get bullied, like it's not an excuse to kill people obviously. And we're saying that I happened to have a bullying experience and I haven't killed anyone and I don't know if my bullies because we actually sat on here like they're they're probably too cool to listen to things like this and I was joking but maybe they're not because I come back from my cruise now I had gone like maybe like a week and a half off the grid completely and Ash just took a picture of me mid-sentence And I look kind of ridiculous. Oh, I'm trying to get a good story for our Instagram page, which everyone should go follow.

Go follow that at Morbid Podcast. So now, after a week and a half of being completely off the grid, it was wonderful. By the way, I recommend everybody to get off the grid for like a week at a time because it's amazing. And I turn on my internet and I have a friend. I have a message request in my Facebook. And the message requests, you know, are like when you're not friends with somebody and they want to message you. Right. So that's always weird.

So I opened it up. I always got really excited when I opened up. And I was not excited and I was definitely not excited when I saw the name, which happened to be the one girl who made my life miserable in high school, the one that we mentioned that sent me to an abandoned house when they were pretending that it was a cool party. So I see this and I'm like, what? Like, girl, what do you want that? Like, I have not heard from this girl since high school.

Like, since this all happened, we were not friends. where like we aren't those kind of, it was bad enough that like we're not those kind of adults that are like, let's just pretend we're friends now on Facebook. Like, no, we're not friends. We don't talk. If I see you at Shaw's, I will still hate you. No, I hate you. So I see this and I'm like, are you kidding me?

Like weird. So I opened it up and it's this big long thing about how it's always bothered her, how she treated me in junior high and high school. Yeah, I was heading on her conscience. Yeah, and I was weighing on her conscience. And she wanted to make sure that I knew that I knew that I. I didn't deserve that. And she played down everything that was done to, like,

she minimalized it to say, all she said was that they, she was really sorry that they put these brutal notes into my locker. You're like, what about this and that? Of what they did to me, okay? So, and I loved my favorite part about it was that it felt like she felt like she was bestowing upon me some kind of wonderful gift telling me. Like setting you free. Yeah, like, I'm telling you that you don't deserve.

this. And it's like, girl, I may not have known it then when I was super awkward and insecure and you were destroying my soul, but I surely know it now that I didn't deserve it. Can I get an amen? And one, she either listened to the podcast and decided to reach out because that was very weird. It was weird timing. Because we brought it up. Was it last week? It was last week. It was last week. So it's weird that within the week that we mentioned it, she suddenly says that. Or she's in some kind of 12 step program and I'm one of her steps. You know what? I'm not one of your steps. That step is

staying open, honey, because I'm not giving you that forgiveness and I don't care how that sounds. I mean, this is a girl who literally, her and her friends, there's two that I can think of, two other ones that I'm not going to mention their names because I'm not a petty motherfucker. But they know who they are. They know who they are.

But these girls made my life absolutely miserable. Yeah. And no. I would, they're not people I want to have in my life as adults and they're not people that I should have had in my life as a kid. So you know what? To the other two, I'm sure you weren't going to apologize because you're even worse than her, I think. But don't. And to her, you're not getting any kind of forgiveness or any kind of closure from me. Just leave me alone. We're 32. Go away. This is for you and you're not getting it. You feel like you can clear your conscience. Go ahead.

Girl, no, thank you. So that was my little PSA. Just want to let you know in case you were listening. I saw a bloody-faced woman and she saw the ghost of a shitty-past past. So I hope you're listening and if you are, subscribe. I hope the bloody-faced girl is listening so that she can tell me she's okay and that she think, actually I hope she's not. That's a little scary. Yeah.

That's a little scur. Well, in other news, my child stabbed me in the eye today. And actually, now that I'm looking at you, it looks a little bit better. Does it kind of look better? A little. I put ice on it. But when I first walked in, I was like, what happened? Who punched you in the face?

Yeah, literally. Like, it was like swollen. My nose was running. Yeah. It was really pleasant. It was a good experience. You're like a two-year-old. I'm super glad.

I'm super glad I have kids, guys. Yeah. Every time I come over, I just dock one more kid off the list I thought I wanted. Yeah, I think you started with five and now you're at like negative 27. I believe we're just about around there. Yeah. Yeah. That's what my kids are good at.

So, speaking of children and wonderful things. Ted Bundy, am I right? Ted Bundy, right? Yeah, let's talk about Ted Bundy. Well, I know it's been a while, and again, we apologize for that. We just like to leave you right on that. Yeah, we wanted to leave you hang in, so we give you a really good one. The last we spoke, Ted had, you know, abducted a few people in broad daylight.

Yeah, at the beach. Mamish. Right in front of like thousands of people. I mean, he was really bold. This is when things were starting to close in on him. And there was a tip line coming that his psychology professor, his girlfriend, and Anne Rule. Oh, right. We talked about his girlfriend. And they all were like, yeah, I know this guy named Ted Bundy and he's kind of a creep. He creeped. Because this was called like the Ted murders at this point because he was dumb enough to use his own name. around this time is when the Taylor Mountain skulls are become a thing basically on Taylor Mountain was like at the place where it was kind of like his

like garden dumping ground essentially yeah it was it was it was the place where he kept all the skulls yeah that he liked to paint and doll up and all that good stuff um there were four skulls found here with no other bones and uh detective Robert Keppel is like the big guy here He was the lead on this case, and he started way back on the disappearance of Linda Ann Healy, which was way back. Did he work on other cases? He did. He sounds wicked familiar.

He's definitely done other cases, and I wish I had them at my disposal right now. Next time I'll have the other cases that he was on, but he's a big name. So it was around this time that Ted had actually left for law school in Utah in August. This was only a month after the double murder event. Damn. Like this is like Sammamish. Right. So his name was a...

on this list of men, obviously, named Ted, who matched the description, but he skipped town. So when he skipped town, the abductions and murders stopped. That's so weird. I wonder why. I know. And you know what's weirder? What? They began happening in Utah. Why? Why? I don't get why. You know what? Poor Ted. It's just like bad luck. It's like following him. Yeah. You know, poor Teddy. You know what I'm saying. So the disappearances and murders that were happening in Utah began with in October, October 2nd, 1974, 16-year-old Nancy Wilcox. She disappeared from Holiday Salt Lake City, Utah. Is that his youngest thus far?

Thus far. Yes. She was last seen as a passenger in a car that matches the VW bug that Bundy owned. He actually admitted to her murder before his execution. He claimed her body was buried in a location about 200 miles south of Salt Lake City, but she's never been recovered. And this seems to happen a lot with him. He comes out with things like towards the end. Right. That's when he started like having a come to Jesus moment. But they don't actually like come to anything.

They weren't finding because I think he just has like kind of like, well he killed so many people. So yeah, he just has like roundabout like maybe 200-ish miles outside. side of you know. He doesn't actually know. I keep saying right. I'm like right. I'm going to start saying you're not wrong. Right. Another one that came around this time was a victim

named Melissa Smith and she was the 17-year-old daughter of the police chief Lewis Smith. Bundy, raped, raped, sodomized and strangled her and her body was found nine days later. Jesus. He's a fucking asshole. He really was. Next was Laura Aime, who was also 17, so I don't know, he suddenly got into this. She disappeared on Halloween, and her parents referred to her as a gentle free spirit.

Oh. It's just as sad. Is that what you would say about me if I wanted a gentle free spirit. That is you. She, her remains were found about like a month later on Thanksgiving Day on the banks of her. Oh, God. What horrible day. You know, not good holidays anywhere.

No. He used to visit the Utah victim's bodies and, you know, take pictures, change the clothes, put makeup on them, do their hair. And he would rape them until they were too putified to do it anymore. That's so fucking gross. Ew, ew, ew. Yeah, he's a super necrophile. So in case we haven't really like laid into that fact in that before. Oh, that's so yuck.

So this is a really interesting one. This is where the name Carol Derange comes. in she's kind of says she's somebody that might sound familiar okay near salt lake city on november 8th he stalked 18 year old carol de ranch who had amazing fucking hair by the way oh look her up i've seen her in that documentary her hair is the stuff of legend yeah every time we watch that documentary you're like look at that gross hair her hair it's just it like gives if i feel things about her hair i just love her hair um so he do you like her hair it's all right oh okay it's okay I just want to make sure.

Yeah, it's all right. I don't know if I mentioned it. But he stalked her. Now, she was only 18 years old. He stalked her at the fashion place mall in Murray, Utah. Oh, I know this. I know this. He wrote down her license plate number, and he waited for her to leave the store.

As she left, he approached her, and he pretended to be a cop named Officer Roseland. And he told her that someone had been trying to break into her car, and he said that she needed to fill out a police report. and he politely offered to take her to the police department. She smartly asked for some ID because she was like, yeah, okay. This motherfucker actually produced a police badge. He just like made one? Like what the fuck?

Her instincts were to not go with him, but she went with him anyways. Well, because he said he was a call. Yeah, I mean, he pulled out all the stops. Papa always told me even when I was like, like, before I could drive that if a cop, like, was pulling you over and, like, you were in an area that you did. didn't know to drive to the nearest police station. Yeah, he always said drive to the next police station. Like, don't pull over.

You can do that. So everybody do that. Yeah. If you feel sketchy, don't pull over. Can pull over in the next. How many people, like, you hear about them posing as cops? That's a thing. So you're perfectly within your rights to drive to the next police station.

So she was weirded out about him having like a VW bug as a car. And she was like, with a missing passenger seat. And he claimed that he was undercover. So. The missing passenger seat. So, well, at this point, he had the passengers. Oh, he did? He could put it back in when he wanted to.

Oh. So, he'd put it in. So once they start driving, she soon realizes they're not driving to the police station, and she begins to get visibly upset. He pulls over and attempts to handcuff her because her upset was not part of the plane. She fights him like a motherfucker, so much so that he ends up putting the cuffs on the same wrist. Uh-huh. So she jumps out of the car and.

runs away. I'd be like, peace the fuck out. And she got away. Yeah. He didn't go after. She got away. So, undeterred, he drove 19 miles away to Vuemont High School.

This is the same night, same, like, he drove immediately 19 miles away. He just, like, had to get somebody. A theater production was just letting out. And he was, he was seen by certain people pacing in the parking lot. He was obviously, like, super, like, hopped up and, like, nervous. Jesus. He kept approaching people with the police officer tail that he was spinning and the vehicle thing. And at some point, he was able to lure Deborah Jean Kent, who was only 17 years old.

He abducted her and she was never seen again. What they did find was the key to Carol's handcuffs that he had dropped in the parking lot. So they were able to connect him to this. Wow. So, yeah. So this connected him with the abduction and murder of Deborah. What a dumb move. Yeah, he was starting to lose it.

Get sloppy, yeah. So Carol worked with the police, and she told them everything she could about him. She, uh, during this time, it was 1975, he drove out to Colorado now. In Colorado, five more women were murdered. So he had dropped out of law school now, and this was about nine months after Carol Durantz got away. And she had worked with police, so they had this guy's description, they had everything going on. During this time on January 12, 1975, in Aspen, Colorado, Carolyn Eileen Campbell, who was 23, she was a nurse from Michigan.

She had been vacationing with her fiancé and his two children. Stop! When she disappeared from the hotel they were staying at. Oh. Her body was found in a snowbank on Owl Creek Road, Aspen on February 18th, and she was nude and likely had been raped. Oh, God. The next one was,

March 15th, 1975. You're just like, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew with all these people. I know. I know. It's so sad. I'm like, body, body, body. So this one was a couple months later. It was in Bill Colorado. Her name was Julie Cunningham.

She was 26. She was a part-time ski instructor. Like I said, he liked to ski. That was his thing. Oh, I forgot you said that. He's already gone after somebody that had, like, connections to skiing. Because Linda Ann Healy, one of his first victims, announced the weather reports like those

oh okay yeah so that's just kind of like a weird little well connection connection yeah like I think he's obviously staying within his his world here yeah so she cunningham Julie Cunningham had agreed to meet her roommate at a bar the night

of March 15th 1975 she never arrived there stop it her body was never found but this was another one that Bundy confessed to her murder right before his execution oh when he started claiming clearing his goddamn conscience. Because that's what assholes do.

They clear their own conscience. Not for anybody else's benefit. They just clear their own conscience. You're still dicks. You're still a douche head. The next one was a month later, April 6, 1975 in Grand Junction, Colorado. Her name was Denise Lynn Oliverson. It was a, she had had kind of an argument with her husband.

She took her push bike and made her way to her parents' house. What's a push bike? I don't know. I was waiting for you to be like, you don't know what a push bike is, the idiot. As soon as I said it, I was like, I don't know what this is. So how bad she doesn't ask me, buddy or she is asking me. But it's a method of transport. Okay.

In Tears on day. Her push bike, you know. I'm pushing the bike. She tried to make her way to her parents' house. Bundy got her before she got there. That's so sad that the last thing she did was argue with her husband. That is, I wouldn't have a husband. Never ever, ever, like, leave the house angry.

Like, not that I'm saying she did anything wrong. Oh, my God, no, she did that. But, guys, never leave the house angry. It's not worth it. You don't know if a Bundy's a look at. I never leave the house angry. I just can't do it. No.

So, her husband reported her missing after he contacted her parents, and they were like, yeah, she never came here. Bundy claimed that he had thrown her body into the Colorado River a few miles from where her bike and sandals were found, but she's never been. recovered. So this is another one that he's like, oh yeah, I did it. And it's kind of around here, but he doesn't have any real information. Because they don't mean anything to him, which is so shitty. He just throws them away like trash. It's awful. So a month later. So he's like really banging them out now. Like month, month, month. May 6th, 1975 in Pocatello, Idaho. Her name is

Lynette Don Culver. She was 12 years old. What? Yes. He abducted her from school. And according to his own confessions, he discarded her body into the snake river. Her body has never been found. A 12 year old? A 12 year old? Yeah. So he's really, I mean.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Because a lot of people, you know, I think a lot of people don't realize, like, the depth of his just despicable behavior. Like, they know that he's a bad guy and then he murdered women. Right. But they don't realize how many, first of all. And this guy's numbers are same. they were in that he was going for 12 year olds 15 year olds like like any girl that fit the better

but it's like 12 year olds like that's a child so yeah you're in like seventh grade like what despicable behavior i love when you said that i like that word ted bundy is he is despicable displays despicable behavior he really does like no dinner ted yeah no no dinner for you you test you've shown no despicable behavior today ted taking away your phone. So, one month later. Wait, one month, you said? Another month.

Another month. Oh, okay. So every month. He's really trying to hit a whole year. Making sure I follow. On June 28th, 1975. My grimace birthday. I was just going to say, let's connect this to our family again.

We love to do that. Grandma! Yay! In Provo, Utah. I know she would not be pleased with this. Love you, Mom. In Provo, Utah, Susan Curtis, 15 years old, again, disappeared from Brigham Young University. She disappeared.

She disappeared. She disappeared. She disappeared. What's the difference? Disappearing, I think. It's different. It's just different. Oh, okay. It's more complex.

You wouldn't understand. I'm tired, guys. I got poked in the eye today, okay? It's been a long week, and it's only Wednesday. I'm like, how poked in the eye? At least she didn't disappear. My kid's a bully, man. She's not.

She was really upset about it, actually. And she was holding the ice on your eye. She was, and I told her I did it. Mama poked herself in the eye. I was like, Mama did it. Mama did it. It's okay. Oh.

Because, you know, she's cute and innocent. Back to serial murders. So back to Bundy. She disappeared from Bring up a University. Oh, she disappeared. Got it. Again, Bundy claimed to have buried her body about 75 miles away.

But wait. Did they ever find her? But she's never been found. Shit. Yeah. This guy's a dick. This is what I kind of think. I think that fucker Bundy here.

Fucker Bundy. Right before his execution, he knew he had nothing to lose. And I think he just started like just lying. I think he did obviously abducting kill these people. But I think he started like sending people in. Oh, just for like the fun of it. I don't know, like 75 miles away. I think he was just picked a random spot.

He was like, yeah, go dig there. Like, ha-ha, idiots. Yeah, it's like, you're the worst. But, like, seriously. So now this is, a lot of people don't, there's been a lot of, like, misconception about how Ted Bundy got caught this time around. The first time. Yeah, like, because he made a couple of escapes from prison. Like, he's a slippery guy.

Which is wild. He's real slippery. This is what happened. On August 16th, 1975, so only two months later. after this last one. In a suburb of Salt Lake City, Officer Haywood will shout him out, man. Hi, hi, hi.

Was at the end of his shift. And now he, this is a small town. So he knows, he knows the going's on. He's at the end of his shift. He sees a VW bug pass him more than once. Oh. And he's kind of like, I don't recognize that car. Haven't seen it around town.

That's weird. And that's like coming back and forth. So he kind of just like took notice of it. Like that's good police work. So attention to detail. He realizes that this is a weird occurrence. And he also remembers that they're nearby in a house. He knows, because again, small town,

that there are two teenage girls at the moment in a house because their parents are on vacation. Like he just knows that because around town. Right. It's just, you know. So, by the looks of this whole thing to him, he was like, is this guy casing that house? You know, like it's just like, he was just thinking like a police officer. That's so spooky.

So he approached the vehicle and tried to stop it, but Ted wouldn't stop. There was a bit of a car chase and eventually he pulled over. When he pulled him over, Haywood noticed that there is no front seat in the bug and that the handle is missing on the passenger side. Totally normal. So he starts questioning about what the hell he's doing. And Ted gives his information and said he was in town to see the movie towering inferno. So again, Haywood knows his town really well. And he knows that that movie's not playing at the local theater.

Oh, shit. Like this guy's like a boss. He's like, fuck you. Try again, bud. Yeah, he's like, nah. What's your next excuse? Wrong already. Couldn't even pick the right movie?

Come on, man. Oh, damn. So, hey, so yeah. So he knows these. lying. He's like, you're a lying son of a bitch and you have a weird ass car with no fucking passenger seat. And you're not getting those girls, damn it. And no handle. Like, fuck you. So he's like, you know what? I think I can, I have probable cause to look in your car. Yeah. So, because shit's going to be with right now. Where's your fucking passenger seat? So when he looks in the car,

he has a legitimate murder kit in this car. Oh, tell us what he has. I'm going to post a photo of this murder kit on the Instagram because it's terrifying. Yikes. In this murder kit, there was a ski mask, a nylon panty hose mask, handcuff, handcuffs, gloves, a crowbar, an ice pick, rope, trash bags and tape. And so there was that. That's what was in the fucking blanket. He's immediately arrested.

Why? I think they were just going on like a hunch here. Wait, but for real. Can you imagine being? the police that like the policeman that like finds that or police woman and you're like yeah i just found a mother like i just like had a feeling like you must feel on top of the world exactly like and i guess ted was also dressed in like all black so he just looks like a fucking cat burglar and i mean i were all black all the time but like but when you're dressed like because i dressed all in black a lot too

do we look like cat burglars we don't have murder kits or at least i don't i'm not going to speak for i don't have a murder kit i have a mannequin head in the back of my seat right now, though. And I feel like if I got pulled over, I remember one time I brought my car to the mechanic, and he, like, asked me about it. And he's like, what's happening here? And then he was like, oh, I thought you might have been in hair school. And I was like, I thought, just collect mannequins.

I just like many friends. And he's like, this is freakyly stink your car away. That'd be great. I'll try that next time if it's free. It's real weird. Being a creep can get you some free stuff. People don't want to deal with you. Trust me.

Only you would know that. Trust me. I know this. So he gets arrested. He's arrested, obviously, because there's plenty of probable cause. Makes sense. And at this point, they decide to set up a lineup because they're like, wait a second. Oh, they have that Carol land.

We have Carol here. Carol. So we're like, we have Carol with the great hair. You know, Becky with the good hair. We have Carol with the good hair. Yeah. She can look at this lineup and she can tell us if he's got any funny business going on. Oh, and he has so much funny business.

She picked out Ted immediately. She was like, hey there, motherfucker. Remember when you tried to murder my ass? Seriously. Not this time. And there's also a photo of this lineup. And it's actually, I find it funny because Ted looks like a super dork. Like his pants are pulled up real high.

Yeah, it's just a weird picture. I'm like, yeah, that's not a flattering one of it. Yikes. But, um, so she picked him out. He's arrested. And this is the moment when police from all the other states start connecting the dog. Shit. They interview Liz and his girlfriend at the time.

Right. I don't know if they were like, they were, they were in that weird. Like, we're together, not together thing. Who the fuck is? I think you might be a murderer and I have a child. So they were like, Liz, let's talk about it. So she reveals, yeah, he has weird shit here. He has a hatchet under his car seat all the time.

He has a set of crutches that he's never needed. And he has plaster of Paris, which he makes fake casts with. why wasn't she like you got to go buddy she was probably afraid this this was one of those things I'm assuming where one she was probably afraid and she didn't want to put it together and also he was good looking sometimes you let shit go when people are looking it's just like unfortunately that's just the way of the world that's true we've all let something go with somebody who's like really good looking they're like I'm just going to forget that I know TVT you know and then we look boys and that happened I mean we've all done that yeah so

Yeah. So, you know, they were like, yeah, that's, that's really suspicious. Yeah. Especially because all of these women that they talk to, they know that he, he approached them with fake casts and fake. Right. Yeah. So that's a huge thing. So that's off an alarm somewhere. He's sent to Utah State Prison. Bye.

And police, mainly detective Jerry Thompson, start putting together a connection from the Aspen, Colorado incidents where in 1977 he's so he's sent to Utah State Prison for the time being this is when the police mainly detective Jerry Thompson shout out to Jerry Thompson Jerry

to start putting together connections from Aspen Colorado where in 1977 now he's extradited to face a murder charge for the death of a woman named Karen Campbell who they originally didn't connect him to

Oh, okay. That's what it was. Got it. So they search his apartment, because they can do that now. And they find some creepy shit. Of course. Like, they find a brochure from the high school play where Deborah Kent was taken from. He kept it as like a trophy?

After Carol Doranche. Yeah. Like, he clearly kept trophies. Do you think he watched the play? I wonder. That would be interesting to know. Yeah. I wonder if, and who knows?

Or like if she was in the play? Like, was he was like, I'm going to kill that one? theater? Was he a man of refined taste? A the theater? A Thespian. I don't know. But that would be weird. Yeah, right?

Like, who knows? Maybe he did. Or I think he might have, I mean... Just wait in the parking lot. But it's true, but it's true, though. How else would he have the brochure if he didn't, like, go in there? He must have gone in. So that's interesting.

Yeah. It's an interesting little to be. I would bet that he watched a little bit of the play. He watched the play. Ted, here it is. You watched the fucking play, Ted Bundy. You heard it here first. He watched.

watched that play. That happened. In case anyone was wondering. Just in case. It happened. It happened. All right. We're sure of it.

Done. So they found that, but they failed to find a stash of Polaroids that he has of all of his victims after death in a lockbox. They just didn't find it. I would not even want to find that. Imagine being the poor son of a bitch that stumbles across that. That stumbles upon that. shit.

Nope. Those Polaroids are probably like photos of him putting makeup on these things, like them all made up and shit. Like that's awful and horrific. Yeah, that's spooky. It's kind of making me think of the Tom Petty video for last dance with Mary Jane. That's exactly what I thought. Oh my God.

I love that you thought that. Yeah, I thought it. I immediately thought of that. Right? Like propping her up and taking her into the ocean. He did that. R. R. AP, Tom Petty.

Yeah, I'm not okay. Yeah, you're not okay. I fucking cry. I feel you, girl. But he's with us now. Don't worry about it. Tom Petty's here with us. Oh.

Yeah. Doesn't that make you feel? I'm overwhelmed with sadness. No, because then I start thinking about Anthony Bourdain. Aw. Which, too soon. Too soon. Like, I was a big fan of Anthony Bourdain, and I'm really sad about his stuff.

Yeah. A lot of people are. I will totally talk about it, probably in the next podcast, but I think it's too soon. And Kate Speed. Don't forget her. Yes. She made great things. She made great things.

She did. I think shoes, bright colors, like, everywhere. It goes to show you, though, that, like, you can have it all, and you can have all the money and all the... But it's not always enough. All the recognition, and sometimes it's demons are too hard to overcome. That makes me so sad. So, that's a real bummer.

So, anyways, let's lighten the mood with some murder of serial killing. So, So they didn't find the Polaroids in the lockbox. Oh, idiots. But, yeah, they so they found a map, and it had an X on the resort that this Karen Campbell had stayed. They also found credit card receipts that put him there while she was there. He's a dingus. They also found her hair in his car.

Oh, shizzot. So there was just, I mean. I don't know why I just said shizze. Oh, shiz it. Yeah. So they found. So they found more than enough to connect him to this. And he found all the things to connect him.

So after, he spent about a year in prison at this point. And Ted decided to act as his own attorney. Because again, he had gone to law school. He's a smart guy. He's a charismatic guy. He's good at this shit. So he decided to do it. Preach.

And he liked the attention because he's a dick. So during court, he demanded it. Whoa. Again, Ashley. Wow. I just got murdered by a recliner. Goodbye. Did you hear it?

I made a weird, I was like, oh, oh, whoa, that was like a fat kid scare. Wow, I'll leave. Oh,

oh. I had some like tuba play. Boreum, barum, barum, bottom. That was wonderful. Oh, God.

So Ted is a lawyer. So yeah, he's acting as his own lawyer. This is a little, this little D. demands to be treated differently because he's acting in his own defense. He demands, he says he doesn't want to be shackled because he needs, he needs to study. So he doesn't need to be shackled.

He's an attorney. Oh my God. Okay, guys, he's an attorney. So, you know, he's a law student. He doesn't need to be shackled like some common criminal. Nice. Let's stop. So this charming asshole convinces guards to let him study in the law.

library during a court recess. So the law library is like on the second floor of the court. Right. So during this, during a recess, he's like, I got to go up there and I got to study up because lawyers do that. Yeah. To the law library to like look shit up. And they were like, oh, man.

So he's alone for like 60 seconds and he manages to jump out of the open second story window and escapes into the Aspen wilderness. Damn. It was a big jump. somehow he didn't break his leg or foot, but he actually, like, hurt himself. Yeah. But he didn't break anything. Wow.

He ends up living in the fucking Aspen Wilderness. Wait, he lived in the woods? Literally. I didn't know that. Yeah. For six days. Oh, that's, like, kind of impressive. He stole clothes. He stole food.

He, like, ravaged cabins when people were out of it. Like, he actually, like, lived in the wilderness for six days. Jesus. This motherfucker. And six days later, he stole a car and was stopped for driving erratically. Like, Ted, calm down. Like, you need to chill. Like, you need to chill. Like, take a minute.

Yeah, like take a beat. Yeah, like, take a beat. Take a beat. Take a beat. Yeah. Like, he shouldn't re-enval. What was the behavior you said? It was despicable. Think about your despicable behavior, Ted. Drive a little slower, bud.

Like, relax. Calm down. Calm down, Ted. So he was stopped for driving erratically and he was arrested again. And he was put in another prison in Colorado. So how many days was it in his full escape? And this was six days later. Oh, so he only escaped for six days.

For six days, though, and again, maybe I'll post this photo too because it's hilarious. He looked like a damn mountain man after six days. Wow. He looked like he... The mountains got to him. He looked like he was the old men of the mountain. Like, he looked like he aged 40 years. Like, I was like, relaxed.

It was like a quick presidency. He was too preppy for the mountain life. Oh, of course. So, seven months later, he's 31 years old at this point. So he's like my age. You old. You know. I'm a spring chicken.

At this point, he manages to acquire a hacksaw blade from another inmate. You know, as one does. Wow. He also managed to acquire over $500 because it was sent to him from pen pals and groupies that he had already started to collect. Prison is wild. It's wild. This is wild. He took these things and he sawed a tiny hole in the corner of his cell ceiling.

He had, you know, this was the tiny asshole because he made it like, Oh, I've seen the picture of it. It had to be subtle, so no one saw it. He lost 30 fucking pounds to fit in this hole. Like he went on like, he lost 30 pounds for this. He actually waited for the holiday break for this escape because he knew there would be less guards on duty. And he did dry runs of this escape for weeks before. The fuck.

So he shimmied his ass into that little hole and went in through the pipes. many times. How did nobody notice that? Oh, people did. Inmates heard him crawling around and reported it and were like, yo, I think there's someone crawling around in the fucking ceiling. They were ignored. Meanwhile, they were being truthful.

They were like, no, this really Ted Bundy. What a bunch of snitches? So on New Year's Eve, Ted's like, bye. When he knew, no one was going to be there. At the street from midnight. At the street. He's like, happy New Year.

Bitches. He crawled through the hole and ended up coming out in the head. jailer's apartment. No. The head jailer was not there. It was unoccupied because he was out for the night. Oh, my God. He put on some of the jailer's street clothes and walked out the front door. What the fuck?

No joke. Just walked out of the front door. Because there were not a lot of guards on duty, his absence wasn't discovered until the next fucking day. Wow. Giving him ample time. Like hours and hours. So he went to Chicago first.

Did he get some Chinese. food first? Likely. Likely. Likely. That is a New Year's activity. He immediately went and got Chinese food. Okay. He takes a train to Michigan. Then he stole a car in Michigan to go to the Atlanta area where he took a bus to Florida. He's like, y'all, I'm not made for prison life. And he's not made for mountain life. No. He's like, y'all, I'm going to take buses and trains. For now on, I'm not going to live in the mountains. So when he got to Florida, he made his way to Tallahassee. Tallahassee. Tallahassee. Is this where that fraternity shit goes down? This is where he planned.

He actually planned to just fucking retire. Did he? Just be 31. Just be a normal guy now. He was planning on just like being an asshole. Do you think he would have been able to do that? Like to get away with it? And he clearly wasn't.

Well, yeah. But if he had stopped killing, do you think he would have gotten away with it somehow? I think the problem here, I think, I wonder, I, no, I don't think he would have been able to stop. Because the problem here was he wanted to get legitimate employment and just be a legit dude. Could he have to just like change his name? But he couldn't because he didn't have an ID because he was using an alias and he was a fucking

You know how pretty, it's like pretty easy to get a fake ID though. I know, but like. You don't know that. But when it comes to like, but when it comes to like for work documents and stuff, you can't get that shit. Like you can get it to go have a beer somewhere. Yeah. But like he needed legitimate employment and he wasn't able to get it. True.

So this is where he just went bonkers. Which I feel like Florida will do to you. Like, no offense, Florida. But I feel like there's just something in the water there. Yeah. So he moves into a boarding house because that's really all he can handle. And he moves into a boarding house on the Florida State University campus. What's a boarding house again?

It's kind of just like, it's kind of like what. Like a shitty one room apartment. It's just like, you're just like, you're. living with a bunch of roommates. Okay, okay. He poses as a grad student because he's 31. He can be up grads. And he's a young-looking guy.

Yeah. He could do that. He poses as a grad student on the Florida State University campus named Chris Hagen. Wow. Which is almost Chris Hayden, which is Rory Gilmore's father on Kilmore Girls. Bye now. Bye now. Just want to point that out.

He attends lectures because you can do that shit. You can just jump it on lectures. He's like, on board. Let's do it. And he just pretends to be. be this. So, this is where the Caya Omega murders happen. Oh my God. The Caya Omega murders are things of legend. Should we end it here? Or should we keep going? I think we should just

keep going. I think so too. I just wanted to scare the listeners. I think you guys have earned it. Oh, you guys were on good behavior. But you guys have totally earned it because we've made you wait long enough. I was just like I wanted them to be on the edge of their seats. I know and I didn't give you that. I'm sorry. You didn't give it to me and I'm going to. I'm sorry. murder somebody really i apologize it's okay i'm not murder anybody i'm just kidding okay so it's happening i am slap happy so that's what you say when you're really tired right yeah slap happy okay oh like punch drunk you know when you say like the wrong thing and it's not at all what that means and you're like that's not and you're like i hope i don't okay all right i'm punch drunk

you're slap happy you're punch drunk you're fancy free you're tired and my eye feels better. So I feel like things are looking up here. It does, right? Okay, I feel like it looks It looks like. It looks like wrinkled, but like you don't have wrinkles. It just is like from like, it's because it was swollen and because I finally got it to be unswollen. Yeah. This has been an experience, guys. It's been an experience. My kid really beat me up today. Oh, wow. That's hilarious. It was a lot. So, sorry. Here we are at January 15th, 1978. Ted decides, To go to like a club of something, like a discotheque. Shut the fuck up.

He goes to, he goes clubbing. He's like, umt, he's like, let's do this. Exactly. Like, he wants to be there. I feel that. I get you, 10. Mm-mms, ins, ins, ins. We're painting a real picture here for you. That's what we're about.

We're about painting pictures. Yes. We're getting you in the mood here. What's that guy's name? What guy? The paint, the happy trees guy? Oh, Bob Ross. Yeah.

Yeah. We're like his descendants. Happy trees and happy bass. Drops. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. So January 4th, he's clubbing.

So January 15th. 15th, he's clubbing. 1978. He is clubbing? He's clubbing. And he's trying to pick up on college girls, and he's being skeevy about it, likely. And he's too old. And he's too old.

And he's smart, and they're like, no. And they're like, you're kind of creepy. Because, again, he's 31. Right. Like, chill. Like, no 31-year-old needs to be walking in and trying to pick up 18 year olds. Probably not.

And he was probably creepy about it because he's creepy. Yeah. So these girls were like, nah, they weren't having it. That really pissed him off. He's angry. Because he obviously went into this night wanting to pick up a chick, wasn't happening. And he was not used to not being able to get whoever he wanted. Yeah.

Starting to get a little rough around the edges and women aren't falling over themselves. Starting to get a little rough around the edges? I mean physically probably. I know. I'm just kidding. So women are starting to be like, nah, it's okay. I'm good. He's like, yeah, this isn't okay.

So at this point, he's, you know, he's addicted to this stuff. Oh, absolutely. After like 400 murders. Fix when he went into this night wanting a fix is going to piss him off. He's having withdrawals. So next door to this place is the Kai Omega sorority house. He had gone there earlier and he had noticed that there was an unlocked door. So he knew it was there already.

Oh, so he's already piced it out. He did scope it out. but we don't know if he went to other places and tried to unlock doors and he just noticed that this was one of them. We don't know. I mean, it makes sense that he would go to a sorority house because there's a lot of, you know, usually attractive younger women. Right. That's his thing. So he knew that.

He knew there was an unlocked door. He was pissed off. He was raring to go. He waited until all of them were asleep. Stop it. He picked up a log on the ground. A fucking log. He used nature.

And he went into the house and went fucking insane. I mean, this is frenzied as fuck. That's so scary. This whole thing happened. I think it happened within like 15 minutes. So, 21-year-old Margaret Elizabeth Bowman was the first one to get it. Her skull was caved in while she slept. And he took a nylon stocking and wrapped it around her throat.

And he had pulled it with such force that it nearly. broke her neck. Oh my God. So he was obviously. A nine-line stocking almost broke her neck. He had pulled it so hard that it almost broke her neck. The next was 20-year-old Lisa Levy. When police arrived, they found Lisa in her room. Her roommate was away.

She was still alive but with no pulse. Unfortunately, she passed away before she made it to the hospital. That's awful. Her nipple had almost been torn off. Her collarbone was broken. and she had been strangled. Also, a hairspray bottle had been forced inside of her. No.

A bite mark that Bundy left on her buttock helped police convict him. What the fucking bit her butt? He bit her buttock and the, he left a very intense mark. He was so angry. And he had pretty, like, when you look at a picture of his teeth, he had like a chip in his tooth. Oh. Defineable teeth. Yeah.

And they took a dental. mold at the trial later and they were able to match it perfectly to him oh my god and there's a weird again there's so many pictures from don't let the bundy bite there's a picture of him looking at the dental molds and he's like fascinated by it it's just like a really spooky photo but yeah it's awful and like he broke her collarbone again like i'm an autopsy technician as we said and we use um basically hedge clippers to cut. Yeah, like it takes a lot. And cutting, you know, and when you get to the collarbone,

it takes brute force to break that collarbone with like full on long-handled hedge clippers. Oh, ripping somebody's nipple off. What? And he broke her collarbone just by brute force. She almost her nipple. That's like bananas to me. Yeah. Like, that's terrifying.

And, yeah, it's awful. So the next one, it was 21-year-old Karen Chandler. She's a survivor. She, so Bundy mercilessly beat her. After he fled the scene, she appeared in the hallway just delirious. Oh my God. Like they found her just delirious in the hallway. He had fractured her skull, broken her jaw, and she had multiple teeth were missing.

Jesus. He took her teeth out? Like he beat her so hard. Oh, they fell out. I'm such an idiot. I'm like, he extracted her teeth like a dentist? He took her teeth? I know.

Goodbye. I understand now. So the next one was 21-year-old Kathy Klineer. After Karen, who survived, had staggered into the hallway, Kathy was found, sat up in her bed,

with multiple lacerations to her face and head. Her jaw had been broken in several places. She survived, but she would never remember the attack, and she had been fast asleep. it happened but she survived and she survived with obviously i mean life changing things broken jaw like i mean she was she clearly and she's to this day she doesn't remember it that's good goodness yeah so after this whole thing he leaves with the log in his hand so he leaves with the log in his hand

covered in blood and during this time a woman returning to the sorority house saw him with the log in his hand saw him like as she was just walking in the door another guy saw him still holding the log down the street so he was clearly in like just he was like he was like totally like removed he then doesn't leave he's just like still at the scene instead he breaks into another woman's home right nearby after this what he wasn't still going 21 year old Cheryl Thomas was eight blocks away. He entered her basement apartment where he found her in her room. He woke up all of her neighbors with the violence he inflicted on her. Oh my god. Like the screaming is like banging. Yeah, it was just like insane. He, he, they said the thumps of him smashing her head was heard

throughout the house and a neighbor banged on the wall like what the fuck's going on. Yeah. She suffered serious head wounds including multiple skull fractures, a broken jaw and her shoulder was dislocated. Oh my God. He then masturbated on her bed. Ew. Amazingly she survived. What? Yeah. Though she had life-changing injuries, including permanent hearing loss in one ear and cranial nerve damage that forever affected and will affect her equilibrium. Oh my God, so. I mean, that'll give her like vertigo forever. I'm not like, my husband changes your whole life. And when he gets it every once in a while, it like, you're out. Totally just

disrupts your life. And she was a dancer. And this completely ended. He literally ruined her life. Yeah. And she's just sleeping in her room. Oh, my God. Yeah.

So that night, people who spoke to him when he arrived back at the boarding house, because then he just went back to the boarding house. They said he was literally, literally, well, I guess maybe he cleaned up. He must have changed or something. But they said he was literally insane. Like, they said it was like speaking to a beast. Like he was unhinged. That's so scary.

And they said he wasn't even on like planet Earth. Like he was a space cadet. So he was clearly in like a just murderous train. That's so scary. So now we come to, I mean, that's basically his crescendo and this is where he ends it. So that was on January 15th. On February 9th, the same year, 12-year-old Kimberly Leach was in her PE lesson at school. When she asked her teacher if she could get her purse from wherever she forgot it at the last class, I think she was at.

So she was retrieving her purse, and she was spotted being led away from the school grounds by an irate man. Nobody reported anything thinking that was probably her father. But once her actual father became aware that she hadn't attended the rest of her classes that day, and he said he had not removed him from school, that was not him. were called. A lengthy search concluded in two months later her body was discovered in a pig pen 40 miles outside of the city.

She had been sexually assaulted and strangled. It was Ted Bundy. That was his last victim. Now, the night of the Kai Omega murders, he had come in contact with a lot of people. Right. They all identified him. Right. So he was arrested. Well, and there were survivors.

Yeah. And he, so he was arrested again, and he decided to act as his own attorney again. And this is, I mean, the trial is bananas. And there's one, like, specific video that you can see online. And again, I'm going to post so much shit on our Instagram. He just looks fucking crazy. That you can see, like, a lot of these survivors talk about, because a lot of them had to be, you know, they had to testify.

Go to trial. They had to sit in front of him. Like, Carol DeRanche had to sit in front of him. I mean, like, and after everything they've gone through, he was still trying to manipulate the situation to be the one in power oh my god wait and he was cross interviewing or what is that called cross examining examining them and so he was talking to them exactly and some of these women i saw on one documentary that um some of the survivors of the kai omega house massacre said that they had to sit across from him at a at a table while he asked them

questions. Yeah. And so one woman, and I can't remember who it is, but I'm going to post who it is when I find out because she deserves to be named here because she was a badass. Right. She was one of the women, the sorority sisters. She said she refused to give him what he wanted because he was trying to relive that night. Oh, absolutely. He was trying to make her describe things. And she wouldn't. She would only give him what yes or no answers, just really. And he goes, she says in this documentary, he was being very calm and collected and I'm an attorney and I'm very, ahead of everything. And then all of a sudden when he got aggravated that she wasn't giving anything to him, he slammed his fist on the table and was like, you have to fucking answer me. He like flipped out.

And she looked at him and she was like, that's the monster. Like the monster is right there. He's got chills. Yeah. And she was like, and he can't control it. Like it comes out. Like he totally lost his shit. And she was like, and I loved watching him lose his shit. It's crazy that they like let him do that because he was so close to them. Exactly. And I don't, I feel like, I feel like, he's like they wouldn't allow that now. I know. It's, it's one of those things that it's like they can act as their own attorney. But I feel like he would have to at least be in shackles. Yeah. I mean, I think he could have attacked. I think he was in shackles at this time, but, but there's also a little video of him being led away while, it was while he was acting as his own attorney. So he's trying, he's in a suit.

He's not like in prison gear. Right. And I believe he's holding like folders or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they're leading him away and he's aggravated you can tell but he's composing himself and one of the guards grabs his arm like a prisoner basically and he whips his arm away and you can see this fucking fury on his face and like you can just see it switch like he's a monster like he's he's like you know charming good looking ted for a second like la la la and then all of a sudden when he doesn't like something that's going like he flips and for a second you just see like that's what those girls saw that's so Which is really scary. Like you just see what those girls saw.

And you're like, that is awful. It's like what nightmares are made of. Because everything he presents to everybody is this really put together guy. And his interviews, he's very put together. And had he not like flipped out and lost his cool like that, I bet a lot of people, like, not everybody. Well, it would be hard to envision. Right. Because it's hard to envision this guy losing him.

So good for that girl for like getting him aggravated. Oh, I'm glad she got him fucked out. And then Carol DeRanche said it too. She was like, fuck him. Like I need to get it. I was like, you bad bitch. You fucking ruined my life, bro. Yeah.

So there's a lot of, there's a lot of thing. And we'll post a couple things because it just really is interesting, like him looking at the dental impressions and stuff. Yeah. It's just like, it's really fucked up that he got. We'll make a quick pick collage for you. Just be an attorney in this whole thing. It's like, fuck him.

In the end, he like started fucking grasping for Strauss because he didn't want to die. Like, he did not want to die. I wish they didn't execute him because I think we could have learned a lot more from him, to be honest. I don't think he deserves to be walking among us, but I, he was he's, he's such a, a prototypical

serial killer and he's what we, like, you know, he's kind of like the, the holy grail of serial kill, so it's like, we got rid of it. And it's like, and it's, it was Florida, and Florida's like all about executed. Yeah. I mean, like these people

on the night, on the morning of his execution, people were camped out. like a fucking tailgate party. You have to think, though, like, to see, like, a monster die, though, like... You're going to tailgate at someone's execution. Like, that's crazy. Yeah. I don't know.

Like, that's... I mean, I wouldn't do it, but I could understand... I understand people... Celebrating the end of... And that's the thing. I can understand people wanting him to die. Right. I get that.

Like, I really do. I understand why... I wouldn't go to the link. I see what you're saying. Like, they were treating it like an event. Like a fucking football game. And they were, like, they were like, chanting, like, burn, Bundy burn. And so.

stuff. It's like they made it like this, like a football game. I think it was just like it made it into a weird event. And like everyone was so terrified for so long. But I think people also didn't think like what can we learn from this. Yeah, I don't think people think like this. This is a brain that we need to pick. Right. Like, and he was willing to talk. That's the thing. Well, and I think also like you look at it from like a scientific point of view and other people people look at it from like a this guy was so. Yeah, exactly emotional. And I'm, don't look at it from that. Yeah, you're not an empath. I'm not an empath.

No. So in the end, when he was grasping at straw, I was just trying to, like, get that stay of execution because he was trying to get another stay. Oh, yeah. He blamed porn for everything. He said he just watched a lot of angry, violent porn, and that was it.

And he was like, and he talked to some guy. I can't remember the guy's name, but he's like an evangelical, I think. And he was like, we got to tell the youth of America not to look at porn. Like, he just turned into an asshole. Like, he was just totally... He was just grasping. I think he was also just placating to, like, whatever the hell he wanted to. Oh, yeah, whatever, like, things said.

So he was found guilty, obviously, in the end, and he was sentenced to die by the electric chair. And he did on January 24, 1989. The end of 10. And I was, like, four years old. I wasn't. Or I was, like, five years old at that point. I wasn't. Yeah.

I wasn't even thought yet. I was five. That's five. I was five when Bundy was killed, just saying. Okay. Like, okay. Do you want to price? That is Ted Bundy.

And we just gave it to you. We just gave it to you. We were gonna separate it into three parts and we didn't. We didn't. We just gave it to you. We gave it all to you. And do you know what we're doing next week? Dino, Dino, Dino, Dino.

Do you guys know? Do you guys know? Dino. Do you know? Charlie. Chuck came me. It's a man. It's Charlie time.

Charlie's going to be a two part of two. Oh, for sure, because I'm going to go like into like his early. Yeah, we got to go deep into his shit. I'm taking the reins, motherfucker. Yeah, this is going to be an Ash-centric episode. Ash-centric, I love that. Get ready. Put that on a t-shirt.

Because this is Ash's fave. So my fave serial killer. So she gets to, she gets to jump in the driver's sitting here. And you know what? And don't tell me that he sucks because all serial killers sucks. They do. They do. They do.

They're my favorite. Exactly. Okay. It's just, it's favorite and, in a different. And we have been digging all the messages. Oh, my God, I know. That you guys are sending. Like, we really appreciate it.

Send us more. And it's like touching our souls. One of the things that I absolutely loved was somebody said that they felt like they were, like, just hanging out with friends. We are your friends. Like, that's what we wanted. We wanted to, we just want to, like, bestow. this weird ass knowledge that we have we want to you know just give people some

give the people what they want and we want you to feel like you're hanging out with friends yeah because you are our friends today I was at work and I was telling my work friends about my podcast and then we just like started talking about like all these creepy shows and stuff and I was like I'm at a table full of weirdos see it just like feels so good I love bringing people together yeah weirdos together and you realize that you're not the only weirdo that is interested by this stuff. And it's like it's, it's, I love it. It's like we're a little tribe of weirdos and I love it. Like you're our tribe and it's amazing. So thank you for the messages and keep them coming because we love them. Yeah and please subscribe and totally subscribe. Rate us. Let us

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So, you know, we're all this. I kind of want to do like a giveaway. I know. We're going to do something fun. We're going to do a giveaway. I was going to shout out to our 100th follower. I'm going to shout out to our 100th follower. No.

Thank you to our 100th Instagram follower, Miss Annie Sizek. AKA my stupid girlfriend who should have been following a long freaking time ago. Annie Sizek is the wonderful girlfriend of my co-host, Ashley. You should have been following a long time ago. But instead of following us a long time ago, she waited to be the hundred followers. Which is stupid. Which is next level. She also sent us a message today and said, do I get a show note?

She said, don't forget my shoutout. So, Annie, this is your showdown. You don't win anything except my love. You're welcome. My love and devotion. Yeah. Also, John had followed us a long time ago. Yeah, I said that.

I was like, John doesn't even use Instagram. John doesn't even use social media. Like what? And on that note. So on that note, thanks so much for listening. Keep on listening. Keep it weird. And tune in next week.

For Charlie Manson. And I don't know if I mentioned this. he's my favorite serial killer. She didn't mention it before, right? I never mentioned it. You didn't know that. Okay, bye. Bye!

That was a harmony.