Morbid - The Abduction and Murder of Polly Klaas

Episode Date: January 20, 2020

The abduction and murder of 12 year old Polly Klaas in 1993 was the beginning of a lot of changes in the way America views crimes against children. Her murderer, Richard Allen Davis, showed us all tha...t true evil does exist and it can walk right into your home. Sources: http://www.pollyklaas.org/ https://www.kron4.com/news/father-of-murder-victim-polly-klaas-speaks-after-death-row-executions-halted/ https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SAN-QUENTIN-Polly-Klaas-murderer-found-2492310.php https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-04-17-mn-3000-story.html https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-supreme-court/1286985.html Check out our sponsors! Best Fiends Engage your brain with fun puzzles and collect tons of cute characters. Trust me, with over 100 million downloads, this 5-star rated mobile puzzle game is a must play! Download Best Fiends FREE on the Apple App Store or Google Play. That’s FRIENDS without the R – Best Fiends! Care/Of For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to TakeCareOf.com and enter code morbid50 Gabi Take two minutes - right now - to start saving on your car and homeowners insurance. Go to Gabi.com/morbid. And for a limited time, if they can't find you savings on your insurance, you'll get a $10 Amazon gift card.  Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, weirdos, I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is so morbid. This one's morbid as poop. This one is one of those that's like high-level morbid. All of the morbid qualities. Exactly. And more.
Starting point is 00:00:34 That's right. It's going to be crazy. So hang on to your boot-a-s, everybody. Fasten your seatbelts. Let's go for a ride. And before we jump into this crazy-ass terrible case, we have a couple of business things to attend to. I was trying to come up with a better word than things,
Starting point is 00:00:51 but that's the only thing that came to my mind. Yeah. We have a few business things. So let's talk to you about it. It is hard and I'm fucking tired. So let's talk to you about our live shows. Let's do it. First, we are going to be at the grammar scene in like fucking four minutes, basically.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, basically after we record this, we're just going to be on stage. That's wrong. No, it is. We have a few weeks, but I'm pooping my pants every day until by. Don't worry, not my fancy pants. Nope. After that, we're going to be in Philly and D.C. in April. We sure are.
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Starting point is 00:02:43 So it's worth it. That's it for live shows, yeah? Yeah, that's it for live shows so far. Wink, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Maybe we have a big announcement tomorrow. And just, you know, stay tuned for that. Stay tuned. And also, if you want to go to CrimeCon, use our code morbid 2020.
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Starting point is 00:03:13 Fuck. It certainly is. This is going to be, we're going to be punchy up until the time where we start this awful case. Yeah. Yeah. Let us get it out now. I just ripped my jeans more than they were already ripped because I just put my hand
Starting point is 00:03:26 in the rip because you're uncomfortable because you know what case is coming out. Yeah. And I'm cold. So yeah, all those fun, all those fun live shows, go on morbidpodcast.com. And I have all of the live shows listed out. I'll be adding them as they come because. you know we're going to get more. I hope.
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Starting point is 00:04:55 So hang on tight. And yeah, I think without further ado, I think that was all the business we had to attend to, right? Yeah, let's talk about horrible things. Ready set go. So tonight's case is one that I'm sure a lot of people know about or have at least heard of the case of Polly Class. Um, this one's a real, real downer. It, after, I knew this case, but reading it again and like researching thoroughly through it, I felt like very few cases, I, in this, I don't know if this is going to make me sound like a terrible person. But after researching cases, like, I'll feel like sometimes like, wow, that was a bummer. But like very few, like actually make me feel sick and like.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah, no, I get that. Like I need to like step away and like, yeah, hug my kids and stuff. Like, this is one of the. it just like really makes you feel sick 100%. And I think because this is such an invasion of privacy and an invasion of safety and comfort this whole case that you'll know when we get to it. So let's start off. This is the first case that really utilized the internet in real time to like document the case.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I didn't know that. That's cool. This is the first time when it really became a thing. So this revolves around Polly Hannah Class. She was born January 3rd, 1981. in Fairfax, California. At the time of this case, she was living with her mother Eve Nickel. Her father is Mark Class.
Starting point is 00:06:21 They had divorced. And her mom was separated from her second husband at the time. By 1993, Mark was living in Salisito and running a Hertz car rental company in San Francisco. He was super close to his daughter, like really good father. They had an awesome relationship. They talked every single day. They spent every weekend together. Like this was just one of those.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I think it was one of those where the parents were like, we didn't work out, but like we're still good parents. You know what I mean? That's so important. So in 1993, she was only 12 years old. She lived with her mom and younger sister, Annie. They lived in Petaluma, California. Polly was described as loving, sweet, very outgoing, very funny,
Starting point is 00:07:08 like just had a really cool personality. Everyone who describes her is like she was just like a cool kid. Aw. Just a kid you wanted around. She was also like a drama club girl, which I was like, Girl After My Own Heart, hey. That's all you, man. She loved being in school plays, like really came alive on stage.
Starting point is 00:07:25 She had aspirations of becoming a famous actress when she grew up. Stop it. Yeah. So Eve and her two daughters lived across from a place called Wickersham Park. Mm-hmm. This was a park that was near at the Greyhound Bus Station. Petaluma, California. And it was not a great place.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Not a good place. It was frequented by, you know, people passing through from the Greyhound Bus Station, which people, you know, whenever there's like a big hub of transportation in a tiny town, it can be sketchy because you're getting all kinds of people from all kinds of places. You don't know what they're all up to. You don't know if they paid $50 for VIP on a Greyhound bus. Like Ash did. It happened.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It did. They offer VIP. And it's not different. It's not different. You still sit near the bathroom. Lesson learned. Lesson learned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Well, this one, the Wickersham Park was home to a lot of, like, you know, transience. A lot of nefarious characters were in there. Okay. People went in there to, you know, get super drunk, steal drugs. You know, you know, there was a lot of ODing happening in there. It just wasn't a place where you wanted to be walking through at night. No. Or ever.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Or really ever. And it was right across from East. Eve and Polly and Annie's home. Okay. Now, October 1st, 1993. So this was before you were even born. You sure was. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Sometimes I say that. I'm like, oh my God, I wasn't even born yet, but I don't feel joking about this case. And it just like blew my mind for a second. I was like, wow. Whenever I realized that you weren't born during these things. They're like, oh, I'm like, damn. That time period sucked because Ash wasn't here. Because she wasn't here on her.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Polly and her friends Jillian Pelham and Kate McLean had planned to have a little sleepover party at Polly's house. You know, as you did when you're 12. I used to fucking love sleepovers. I love sleepovers. That night, Polly and her friend, so Jillian came earlier. I think she came around like 7 o'clock, so they were hanging out first. Then they waited around and Kate was dropped off by her mom sometime between like 8 and 8.30.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So at around 9.45 p.m., the girls were like already like well into their sleep part, like sleepover mode, like giggling, doing all kinds of fun. like, what you do at fucking sleepovers. Yeah, hell yeah. But as it was 945, Polly's mom told them she was getting ready to go to bed with Annie. She was going to have Annie sleep in the bed with her. And she said, you know, could you guys just be a little bit quieter because she had a raging migraine? Oh, poor her.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah. I feel you, girl. In fact, I woke up this morning with a migraine. I knew that was going to happen. I said that to John. Yeah. But luckily, you know what? Accedrine migraine.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I got prescribed medication for my migraines. and excedrine migraine works better. That's insane. Yeah, I don't know what it is. Sponsor us. I think it just like different strokes for different folks, I guess, but my, like, I'm off topic, but I'm sorry. I know a lot of people have migraines that listen.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah, we're just trying to reach out and help you. I'm just trying to reach out to you. But I know, like, my prescription migraine stuff made me feel like really like loopy and drunk. Oh, I don't like that. And Accenture migraine doesn't do that. Yeah, Accenture migraine doesn't do that, but it always takes care if I, if I catch it in time.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And I did, because look, I'm talking to you. I'm not wanting to like drill a hole through my head. That makes me happy for you. Me too. So yeah, so her mother had a migraine. She wanted to go to sleep. So she was like, she wasn't like, you guys have to go to sleep. She was just like, you know, just calm down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Now her bedroom was directly across from Polly's. Oh, shit. She was, so she knew that, you know, she was like, this is a loud night. I have a migraine. I got to sleep. So she took her prescribed sleeping medication. Okay. It wasn't like over the counter or something.
Starting point is 00:11:18 She just took randomly. It was like she was prescribed this. So the girls were doing the typical sleepover shit. They're playing video games. And because Halloween was coming up, it was October 1st. They were trying out different makeup looks on each other. Oh my God, fun. So they all had makeup on, like, making up, like, different, like, monster faces and, like, you know, glam girl faces.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yep. So around, I don't remember exactly what time it was. I believe it was sometime around, like, 10.30-ish in that hour. Polly opens her bedroom door because she's like, oh, I'm going to go get the slumber bags, the sleeping bags for all of us. So she opens the door. And when she opens that door, a large man is standing in front of her bedroom door. Now this isn't outside. This is in her bedroom door.
Starting point is 00:12:04 She opens her bedroom door and a man is standing in the hallway right outside her bedroom door, which is directly across from her mother's door. It's the most terrifying thing I've ever heard in my fucking life. It gives me, like, heartburn. Because I'm picturing me opening my bedroom door. I just think I'm like, this man just walked into this house. Anybody that waltzes into your house? Like, you don't want to fuck with them. Not good.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And that's what all of, I'm sure I've mentioned this before. But like all of my criminal justice professors in college were all like, because most of them were like detectives or cops or some sort. Yeah. And they all said, if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, do not go downstairs and confront them. No. You stay in a room.
Starting point is 00:12:43 You call 911. one upstairs and you wait until they leave because you don't want to meet that person. Any motherfucker who breaks into a home that they have no idea what's what or who is in that house, that's a crazy motherfucker and you do not want to deal with them. And it's the best advice I ever got. It's true. Because my house, we have like a lock so nobody can get up to the second floor. And it is the greatest thing we ever did because it makes me feel so much better.
Starting point is 00:13:07 When I have a home someday, I want that. It's makes me feel so much better because I'm like, fuck that. Yeah. Fuck that so hard. So this man is standing in the hallway. He had a large butcher knife in his hand and a duffel bag. Oh, my God. He immediately told them all, if any of you scream, I will slit your throats.
Starting point is 00:13:24 So he said, everybody be quiet. So they all just were like, holy shit. Can you imagine? No. You're 12. You're out of sleepover. No. So immediately the other girls think this must be like a prank or something.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Because it's Halloween time. Maybe like this is somebody that Polly knows and they thought it would be funny. They said they did not think this was a funny prank. But they thought it was a prank nonetheless. So he started, they quickly were like, oh, this is not a prank. Because he quickly started tying all of their hands behind their backs with silk material that he had torn. And the cords, like wires that he cut from the Nintendo wires in the room. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah. Because he used the butcher knife and sliced off the wires. Jesus. And he keeps telling them. Right? Like, fuck you, man. Eat a dick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And so he keeps telling them all to be quiet. stay quiet. I'm not going to hurt anybody. I think then what are you here for, bro? And well, and that's so he's saying, he's saying, you know, whose house is this? Is anyone else in the house? So Polly is like, it's my house and my mom and my sister are in the house. And he seemed very like, I think, like, from what I've read, he was like, what? Someone else is in the house? And I'm like, yeah, bruh.
Starting point is 00:14:35 These are like three, like 12 year olds. You really think they're in the house all by themselves? Like you're that fucking dumb. Right. Which, spoiler alert, he is. So the girls are all like crying at this point because again they're 12 year old babies. These are 12 year old babies. And he's trying to tell them no one's going to get hurt here. I just want money. So he's saying I'm not going to hurt any of you.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I just want money. So then he duct taped all of their mouths. Oh my God. And like gagged them with like fabric like behind the duct tape. And he was like, I don't want anyone making sounds. He took their own pillowcases off their pillows and placed them over Jillian. and Kate's heads. Then he said he had them lay down and he said count to a thousand because I'm going to take Polly out of here to show me where the valuables and money are. And by the time you count
Starting point is 00:15:23 to a thousand, she'll be back in the room and I will be gone. And that's not true. And they were like, and so of course they're like, okay, like we're going to do it. So they started counting. They said like 20 minutes later they were still sitting there like in fear. Polly never came back in the room. So they managed to free themselves, which like badass. Amazing. They free them. themselves, they run around the house and Polly's nowhere. And they're like, fuck. So she, so they run into Eve's room and wake her up frantically, which first of all, being woken up that way anyways would be the, is like very jarring and awful. Right. Like having a migraine and then hearing your child was nowhere to be found in a man came in. Right. And took her. And you were literally just
Starting point is 00:16:05 across the hall and had like no idea. Like thinking about this. I can't imagine. I honestly every, any time I think about being in Eve's situation, I immediately feel like I have to like walk out of the room and just like get fresh air. Like it like physically affects me to think of us. Like I feel for her so much, like so much. Well, because you have kids too. I think things like this are so different. Like it's horrifying nonetheless, but when you have kids, it makes it so different. I bet. Yeah, it takes it to do a whole other level because I am, the first thing I think of is if an intruder was in my house, it's not how do I get us out of here. It's how do I get us out of here? It's how do I get the girls out of the house right it's i don't give a shit about me i want the girls safe that's all i would
Starting point is 00:16:46 put them on the roof if i had to like that's the first plan i come up with is how do i get to the girls yeah and i always have a fucking plan she really does i've heard many of i do so eve called the police at 11 o 3 p.m and they showed up immediately that's good uh they noticed that the video game cords are all cut um things are kind of like thrown everywhere also that's still like pretty early like it is it's You know what I mean? Like, you don't think things like that happen at like 10.30 at night, you know? Right. I'm pretty sure. Isn't it 1030 like right now? It pretty much is close to. And so the lead investigator on the case was Ed Fryer.
Starting point is 00:17:23 He said that right away he could tell this was a stranger abduction. Right. And he said those are much more rare and they are way harder to track. And probably fucking terrifying. Because at least if it's someone that knows the family or some kind of connection, you have that little thread to pull. But when it's a stranger abduction, it's like. What do you have to go on? Not only do you have nothing to go on.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It's like what the fuck's going to happen here? It's always so much worse when it's somebody they don't know. Because again, anybody walks into your house and steals someone out of your house, that's a fucking crazy person and you need to get that person back right now. So because he wasn't wearing a mask, the investigators brought Kate and Jillian in and were like, can you please give us a description? Of course, the girls are like hysterical. They've just been through fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:18:08 They're traumatized. But you know what? Those little badasses gave the best they could, and they got a really good sketch of them. Good. Because they paid attention. So an APB went out at all points to bulletin. There was extensive searches immediately of all the homes in the area. A helicopter was circling.
Starting point is 00:18:26 There were canine units. I mean, it was like mass search. Everybody dropped what they were doing to do this. Yeah, this was one of those cases where like the entire nation came together for this case. and it's like so when there's a stranger abduction at all but especially a stranger abduction
Starting point is 00:18:45 out of a home that's something that the FBI and local law enforcement are really going to put like their full like the FBI is going to come in they're going to put everything together they're going to work together and they're going to get I mean they had the Navy
Starting point is 00:18:57 the Coast Guard working on this it's like they did not fuck around so if the problem is time is always of the essence in these cases because unfortunately if someone isn't found within the first 24 hours in like a child stranger abduction, the expectation that they'll be found alive or at all diminishes greatly. That's so sad.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Yeah. And it's like imagine being the parents knowing that you have 24 hours of real time here. And you know that after 24 hours, it can happen, but it's like the possibilities are like, yeah. So unfortunately, what happened though is that the APB that went out was initially marked not for press release, which meant that it wouldn't go out over all the police scanners because reporters listened to police scanners. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And they marked it as not for press release. So that meant they wouldn't go out on all the police scanners. Oh, shit. So all the police in the area were not informed of this. Oh, no. So there were other deputies and other surrounding areas that had no idea that this was happening that night. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And unfortunately, when you hear what happened, that's how it happened. It really fucked this case up. Oh. I don't know if it would have stopped what happened, but it, I think he would have been caught. He would have been caught that night, I think. Now, immediately the entire world is looking for her. I mean, there were like, there were, you know, TV shows had her on there. The news, magazines, newspapers.
Starting point is 00:20:27 She was like everywhere. They ended up bringing in, like, some, like, crazy forensics company to go over the scene again. And this company was able to find. A palm print on her bed. Oh, wow. That was probably like when he was getting the pillowcases off the bed. Right. Not his whole hand, but his palm print.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Unfortunately, it was 1993 and a palm print database was not going to help you out. Meanwhile, volunteers were scanning every bit of everywhere in Petaluma and the outskirts. The Navy, like I said, the Coast Guard, they had cadets searching near waterways. There were literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people actively just jumping. into this. I love that. Over 100,000 flyers with her face on them were distributed like within a first day or two. Wow. Yeah, they had them everywhere. And it was like, it was the missing poster. It had her face on it. It had the, um, later on it had like the sketch of him on it. Now, Petaluma police spoke to Polly's teachers, students, everybody at the schools. Just asking like,
Starting point is 00:21:31 did you see anything? Have you ever seen someone lurking around? Have you, like, was anything weird at all? Because they have nothing. Right. At this point, they have nothing to go on. You're just fucking looking for anything. Literally, they're just grasping into the air. They talked to a lot of the neighbors, too, around their house. And a lot of the neighbors said immediately that night, they said they noticed a man in dark clothing with bushy hair and possibly carrying a bag.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And he was like skulking around the neighborhood that night. And when they looked at the sketch, it did match the sketch. Okay. So this kid, he was this little boy. I don't remember. I don't think they announced how old he was. he was with two other friends and he said that night that she was abducted at around 9 p.m., he and his friends were walking to the video store.
Starting point is 00:22:15 They walked by her house. He said at 9 p.m., he recalled seeing a strange man standing outside of Polly's home. And he was standing in like the shadows. Oh, I hate that. And he said he had bushy hair, dark clothing, and it looked like he was carrying a bag. Now, they were like, that's weird, but what the fuck are we going to do about it? Right. He was like, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So they were like, all right, we're just going to go to the video store. They went to the video store. They're walking back. He hasn't moved. Oh, oh, I hate that so much. So they were like, that's weird. So now they're like, okay, tell me exactly what he looked like. And they didn't show him the sketch that they got from the girls.
Starting point is 00:22:52 They were like, just tell me what he looked like. He described exactly the sketch. It was him. So they set up like the polyclass search center. There was like, her father ended up taking. time off of work, like a leave of absence to take care of this. They set up a hotline for tips, and a lot of people were calling the hotline that were parents of other missing children, trying to give their, like, tips and also trying to get help
Starting point is 00:23:19 for their thing, too. Right. So it was like kind of bringing everyone together, like, especially these, all these parents with missing children, because that's a, that's a club you do not want to be in. Nope. Not at all. No, thank you. But you probably need so badly other people to, like, because nobody understands that.
Starting point is 00:23:35 No. Nobody. I don't, nobody wants to understand that. Like, you can try to fathom it in your brain, right. I can't, you can't even get close to it. No. It's hard to even fathom. Like, you don't even want to fathom. Oh, God. I, I, it's honestly like bringing your brain there, bringing my brain there. It's so dark. It's, like, really dangerous doing my brain there because it feels like you have to, like, break you. Yeah, it would. Um, so People magazine actually put her on the cover in the case on the cover and dubbed her America's child. Because the nation was coming together. The internet was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:10 There were updates everywhere. They used some more forensic work, which was still in the early stages in 1993. Right, right. So this was the first case that brought a lot of things together. And they ended up finding in Polly's carpet, they found a little tiny fiber that didn't match any of the other fibers. Wow. And it seemed like it came from a car in the fan. And they looked at all the car carpets in the family and it didn't match any of them.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Okay. So they were thinking maybe it came from somewhere this guy stepped. Because fibers can be beneficial in like linking, you know. Yeah, sure. They also found a human hair that had been taken out of somebody's head. The hair had a tiny bit of scalp left on it. Yeah. Which happens when you pull hair out of your head.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Directly out of your head. Like not just like, ding. But like when somebody is yanked it out of somebody's head. Right. Unfortunately, because it was 1993, DNA was not. in its heyday at this point, so they really couldn't do a lot with it. But the facts that they found these things
Starting point is 00:25:09 and were like actively looking for these things is pretty impressive. And at least put them away because eventually if this hadn't gone or solved, whatever. Exactly. That's the thing. So meanwhile, Mark Klass, like I said, he had taken a leave of absence from his job to just work on this
Starting point is 00:25:25 search full time. Right. This guy named David Collins was also was another father of another missing child. Yeah. His son, Kevin, had gone missing in 1984, and he was actually one of the first kids missing kids to be put on a milk carton. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he reached out and tried to, like, aid in this whole thing because, like, this is what started happening.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Like, these other parents of missing children were, like, if I can't find my own child, I want to help someone else. You know, like, they just need to help. Which I think is so cool. It's like you're... That's, like, very beautiful. You're, like, grieving. and having to deal with your own trauma and you're seeing it in someone else and being like, I want to help them.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. Like, that's badass. And that takes a lot. It really does. Because, like, how do you even... You got to put your own shit aside? How do you even muster that, like, energy to do that? At the time, because, again, they have nothing to go on still. They're still just looking at this sketch and that's it.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Right. At the time, Winona Ryder actually came out and she was too in 1999. Yeah, she was. I love Monona Ryder. I do, too. I know she's got... like issues, but like I got them too. But she's like the comeback kid. She is. She's the comeback kid. She is. I love her. And she looks great. Phenomenal. Like get it, Winona. Sister. So Winona Ryder, our queen,
Starting point is 00:26:45 offered $200,000 as a reward for her return. Wow. Yeah. And when she came out and did that, it like really brought more focus to it. Because, you know, even these cases that are like everywhere in the whole nation is on top of it, they start to peter out. Yeah, of course they do. happening and the attention wanes. So she came out just in the nick of time to like really bring back. Put it back on the hot burner. And this is when it got put on like America's Most Wanted with John Walsh and like all that. I fucking love that show.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Oh, we're going to, and you know what? I say we don't like covering child things. We have to do that one right now. But the important ones, I mean, they're all important. The ones that I'm able to get through and that I really need feel like I need to tell will do. and Adam Walsh is definitely one way to cover. Mainly because it also ties into like Otis Tool and Henry Lee Lucas and all that. So we'll get to that one just so you know.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So Mark was given a polygraph test. Okay. Because of course the FBI, you know, he's the dad. He's the dad. Right. He passed with flying colors. But again, whatever. Polygraph tests are such bullshit.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Right. Not that I'm saying it's a bullshit that he passed it. It's just like, why do you even do it? Right. And the FBI was actually starting to. get kind of lost on leads at this point. Like, they were, like, just grasping at straws. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:06 So, Mark actually during this time, also got a call from a girl who sounded like Polly. Oh, God. Stop. The girl said she was in a hotel room and didn't know where she was, but her kidnapper had left the room. Oh, my God. So he lost his fucking mind because then the line went dead. Wait, I don't know if this is real or not. What?
Starting point is 00:28:27 Like, was it Polly? Well. So they couldn't. trace it because they weren't expecting this call. Right, obviously. So the FBI is like, fuck, she's going to call again. We got to get, hopefully she'll call again, we'll get a trace. Right, right, right. So they waited, waited, waited.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Another call came. Okay. Same girl. She was super anxious, said she couldn't talk, sounded scared, sounded just like Polly. Okay. And they traced it to a home about 30 miles away. They go there. Turned out to be some fucking piece of shit
Starting point is 00:28:57 teenage girl. Are you kidding me? dared by her fucking piece of shit teenage friends to do it. Oh. Yeah. I've never heard that part. Isn't that messed up? That's so disgusting. Can you imagine, one, being despicable enough?
Starting point is 00:29:12 No. To dare your friend to call a grieving father who doesn't know where his child is. Like what? And then two, can you imagine being despicable enough to go, sure, friends, I'll do that. And to do it twice? Like, how did this little group of turd fucks get together in the first place? Ew. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:29:29 That pissed me off so much. That is not just like, because people will be like, oh, teens are stupid. It's like, no. That's not teenage behavior. Like, I want to know where that girl is now and what she's doing because I bet it's nothing special. Because it's like, never once did I think that, would I ever think that was funny? We used to prank call people and be like, who's your refrigerator running?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Like, no. Yeah. Fuck off. You, you prank call people and be like, do you lack cheese? You know what I mean? Like, you don't. You'd be like what? Do you lack cheese?
Starting point is 00:29:58 It's like, do you do you do. You do stupid stuff. You don't call a grieving father. And pretend to be his daughter. Was kidnapped out of his house. That's disgusting. Horrific. I'd punch her in the face if I saw it.
Starting point is 00:30:11 So that's awesome. True pieces of human garbage everywhere in this story. So they brought back in Jillian and Kate, the two friends from the sleepover at this point. And they were like, okay, now that you've, like, we've had some time away from it happening. Can we try to go over again what he looked like? Right. They ended up getting an even better sketch of this dude. And they also, I think they also, like, the person who was drawing it was really, really good too, because this photo, I'll post it on the Instagram, is a really good photo.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And it really looks like saying what people can do. Sketch artists are stown to me? That you can say like, are you some kind of psychic? Like, do you have something? Because just, they have to go with like a frantic person. You know, emotional person normally telling them, like, and his eyes were. kind of big. Right. And they just have to like go by that. Right. I'd be like, I don't know how to draw that. I've no fucking idea. It's an eyeball. I don't know. Um, so the, this new photo went on the missing poster with the $200,000 reward. Okay. Um, so during all of this, the FBI is still just, you know, grasping at straws. So they were positing, you know, did she run off with a boyfriend? No. Did she do this? Did you do that? Meanwhile, she was 12 years old and she had never had a boyfriend. And she was out of sleepover with her two friends. It's like, and there's like, and there's like, and there's, it's like, and And then there's also the fact that her two friends were involved with the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Like, we're tied up as well and watched the whole thing happen. Right. But, and that pissed a lot of people off because they were like, what are you doing even thinking of these things? Yeah, like, you're wasting time. So November 28, 1993. This is a couple months after the abduction. Yeah. A woman named Dana Jaffe.
Starting point is 00:31:50 She was outside on her property about 20 miles away from Petaluma. Okay. She called police saying she found some, like, weird shit on her. her property. Okay. She didn't want to touch it. She just wanted them to come down and see it. So she brought them down.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Right. Never touch it. No, she was like, I'm not touching that shit. Good for you, Dana. So she had a really big, giant private property. It had a long, long, long driveway, lots of wooded area, lots of dirt paths, like a really fancy place. It was rich as fuck. She was.
Starting point is 00:32:19 So they brought her, they, she brought police down a dirt path that was off her driveway and, like, way in the woods. And she showed them that she had found a piece of. silk, a pillowcase with makeup smudges on the inside of it, packing tape, a condom, a man's sweatshirt, and a pair of girls' tights. These girls' tights were tied in a knot and a human hair was in the knot. Oh. So she's like, this is weird, right? She's like, I don't want this on my property, right? Shit looks strange. I don't really think I've just accumulated this over any time. So she said, so they were like, what the fuck? Like, has anyone been on your property?
Starting point is 00:32:57 property and she was like, oh yeah, I did have someone trespass on my property. And she was like, and I contacted the police. Why do you not have this on file? So they were like, wait a second, what? So they look, she did contact police. It was on file, but we'll see why they didn't connect this initially. God damn it. So it was about two months earlier on October 1st. No. That she had a man trespass on her property. So what happened was that night, um, her babysitter, because she was, She had a daughter. The babysitter was leaving her house. And she was going down the really long driveway.
Starting point is 00:33:35 It was really dark. And she saw a man and his car stuck on the side of the driveway. Again, I say it's a really long driveway. Right. He was stuck in like a little ditch. So he's like, what the fuck? So she rolled her window down just a little bit. Just like a tiny little thing just to be like, what the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:33:53 Like this is private property. You're not supposed to be on here. and she said he turned around and looked at her and she said he looked crazed. Oh. Like sweaty, dirty, panic. Oh, my God, I would be terrified. Yeah. And she was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:34:08 And so he's like, I need you to help me get this car out. And she was like, no. I am like super booked for the rest of the evening. She was like, I've got a nail appointment out of hair appointment. I have to wash my dog. I just got to get out of here because you are a sweaty, dirty mess and you look like a fucking wild man. I'm not helping you. Yeah, I'm out of here. I know I'm driving, but also my Uber's here. So, bye. Got to keep that five-star rating boom. Well, and he's, so he's like, I need your help.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And he actually walked over to her car and slammed his hands on like the roof of the car. Stop it. And then he was like, what's up that driveway? And she was like, what the fuck? So she's like, nope. And she was like, I'm calling the police. So she drives away. She goes to a pay phone. and she calls Dana at around 1124 p.m. So she's like, she tells Dana what the fuck just happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:01 So Dana grabs a baseball bat. Hell yeah. Drives down her driveway to see what's going on, which I don't recommend. No. But like, bad bitch alert. Like bad bitch Dana, but like real dangerous. Could have been.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Could have had a different outcome. Like, you know what? Dana just called. Did you just hear all the times? I started her time? I was like, girl, let's just what just happened? That's what just said?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Direct translation Direct translation is I'm broken I am broken So she drives down there with a With a huge baseball bat And she saw the car But she didn't see the guy
Starting point is 00:35:36 Okay So she was like All right well that's weird So she drives a little off the property Like out of the driveway Right And she calls the police around 1146 p.m. They came
Starting point is 00:35:46 They searched They find the dude with his car No He's sweaty He's dirty he's wild as fuck just like they said he was he's out here wild um he seemed drunk they could smell alcohol on him and he had leaves and shit in his hair like yeah that's just a fucking wreck not normal and he told them and when they pulled up he was just sitting there like smoking like leaning on his car
Starting point is 00:36:07 he's like i'm just out here chilling on this private property so they're like yeah what's you doing and he was like oh i was just sightseeing and didn't know this was private property they're like it's a midnight so what the fuck are you seeing and they're like yeah bro you look like You're just sightseeing like you're covered in dirt and sweat. But okay. You sightseeing the dirt up close? I'm confused. So he said he realized that it was private property suddenly.
Starting point is 00:36:31 He tried to leave, but his car got stuck in the ditch. So they were like, okay, well, that's weird. So they gave him a sobriety test. He passed it weirdly enough. Yeah. They looked in his car. It was covered in like empty beer cans, full beer cans, a bunch of clothes, just like weird shit. They noticed a duffel bag.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Uh-huh. Now remember. The APDB originally went out not to be released to press. Right. Meaning it didn't go out on the scanner to other officers. Meaning these officers. This means these two sheriff's deputies that showed up had no idea that they should be looking for an abducted little girl or a guy that looked exactly like this guy. So otherwise, they may have known that night.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And they may have, when we see what actually happened, they wouldn't have been able to save her. I don't think. That's so sad. But they would have found her. Right. Quick. And they would have been able to arrest him quick. Oh, that breaks my fucking heart, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:29 That they could have found her that night. Exactly. And the parents just could have at least known. Right. So the dude was starting to get belligerent. They asked if he had been drinking that evening. And he grabbed a beer, opened it, and just started drinking in front of them. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:43 So they took it and they were like, no, fucker. So they patted him down. He was, you know, they didn't find anything. They went back and they. ran his license and his registration. Uh-huh. No warrant came up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:56 His name was Richard Allen Davis, and he was 39 years old. Now, Richard Allen Davis had served time in prison recently. Oh, goody. At California men's colony in San Louis Abisbo. San Luis Obisbo. Fucking look it up. Look it up right now. I'm looking it up.
Starting point is 00:38:25 San Luis Obispo, California. There you have it. And that lady doesn't lie, okay? And it's San Luis Obisbo. So he was in the California men's colony in that place for kidnapping and robbery. He was originally sentenced to 16 years, but only served eight before he was paroled June 27, 1993. Oh, shit. Well, the reason this came up clean with no warrants was because the officer accidentally entered the numbers wrong.
Starting point is 00:38:55 goody. Yeah. The car had recently been purchased from a friend of Richard Allen Davis. So the name was not yet in the system of registration, all that good stuff. Now, if everyone, everything had gone the way it should have, and the technology was there at the time to like connect warrants and like all that good stuff, they would have seen that he had quite a record. Oh, good. And if he had been detained, they may have also been able to ascertain that he showed signs of this behavior his entire life. Oh shit. His whole life? This dude is one of those guys that slipped through the cracks a lot of times. Oh. And he never should have been able to get to this point. It was a lot of failures along the way that led him to this point. He grew up on a Native American reservation with his Native American mother,
Starting point is 00:39:42 Evelyn and his Caucasian father, Bob Davis. Both of them were raging alcoholics. Oh. And when I say not great parents, I mean abysmal parents. The worst. Yeah. He had four other siblings and his parents divorced when he was 11 years old. His father actually got full custody, which is always shocking when the, I'm not saying they don't deserve it, but usually courts hand over to the mother most of the time. Even now, I feel. Unless it's got to be real bad. Yeah. And especially back then for the mom to knock at custody, I feel like it had to have been real bad.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And it was something along the lines in the court papers because of the mother's alleged immoral conduct in front of the children. Oh. Yeah. She would allegedly hold his hand. Two people, two witnesses have said they saw her hold his hand over an open flame to punish him for minor things. Oh, God. And they said one of those times his hand could be seen blistering. Oh, stop. They also said one of those times, it was clear that he had become so accustomed to this that he just stood there. What the fuck? And like nothing registered on his face. And this hand was being burned. How do you sit there with your child and do that to them? How do you hold your child? First of all, to harm your child in any way, nothing ever makes sense to me about that. I think we've made that pretty clear that we do not even begin to live in that realm of reality. But first of all, like when you have a kid, the first time, I remember I accidentally sniffed Lenin's tip of her finger when I was cutting her nails when she was like a baby.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And you probably wanted to jump off a cliff. First of all, I immediately started sobbing. Like sobbing, like, full body heaving, sobbing. Because when you see your child bleed, it is, I can't even describe to you the feeling. And then knowing, she did not even care. I don't even think she noticed, but fingers bleed so much. Yeah, it was probably terrified. That it was a ton of blood.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I'm trying to stop it. And I'm calling John being like, I'm a horrible mother. I just did this. It was awful. I know. I'll say like no to them. And I'm like, fuck, I'm an asshole. I'm the worst aunt.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Shit. And just seeing blood on your child. So it's like watching your child's hand blister and burn because you're holding it over. You got to be fucked on the upper echelon of evil to do that. So, I mean, that's the kind of shit he was dealing with. He and when he became an adult, he referred to his mother as that gutter snipe. dog bitch. Him and I have that in common.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yes. I also. Unfortunately, my mother has that guttersn-snip dog bitch. Unfortunately, even him have that in common. That's so fucked up. I feel like even I wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:42:32 No, I feel that's real rough. That's rough. But still, that was funny. You got to have a little levity in some of these parts. And gutter-snipe dog bitch is where the levity lies. I believe. So basically, his parents were never around. And when they were around, they were shit bags.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Again, just don't have kids if you're going to, to be a shipbag. That's the thing. You're creating other shitbags. If you want to be a shipbag for yourself, that sucks in and of itself. Just go be a shipbag on your own. Don't raise other shipbags. So he started getting in trouble super early. He first had his first run in with a lot 12 years old. Oh, wow. What happened? I believe he was like stealing like mail out of people's mailboxes. Like he was stealing looking for checks and like stealing them. Oh shit. Intense. At 12. Yeah. He started getting in tons of trouble. his parole records all pointed at his seriously unstable home life as probably the thing that was causing his behavior.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Right. But nothing was being done about it, of course. He also enjoyed at this time torturing and killing animals. Yeah. Which, as we know, is... Nobody know. It's never a sign of anything bad, right? It's always fine.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Serial murders to come. So he dropped out of school in the ninth grade and just started binge drinking and just being an asshole. Goody. Because, you know, that's what you do. I said goody so many times. I can't stop being like, oh, goody. Oh, fun. He would get arrested constantly for burglarizing homes, robbing.
Starting point is 00:43:57 He liked to steal a lot. That was his thing. You know, that's real of it. Public drunkenness. Just being an asshole. Yeah, asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole. I just keep saying it. Asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole.
Starting point is 00:44:07 In 1974, he was 21 years old. He was sentenced to six months for six months to 15 years. That's a casual sentence. Quite a gap. For attempted burglary. He only served. one year of that sentence and then was paroled. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Seven weeks after getting out of prison, he literally kidnapped a woman at knife point. Jesus. And I'm sorry, how old was he? 21 years old. Jesus Christ. Yeah. He grabbed her from a random parking lot, forced her into the passenger seat of her own car, and then drove her to a secluded area.
Starting point is 00:44:38 He then whipped out his penis and basically told her, you know what I want you to do. What the fuck? While he's holding a knife to her face. Oh, my God. So you know what she did? Bid it. No, but that's intense. No, she did something similarly as intense, though.
Starting point is 00:44:55 She grabbed the knife blade with her own hand, held it while opening the door behind her and kicking it open, and then ran out of the car screaming. Oh, my God, bad bitch alert. Like, bitch grabbed the knife blade. That is so badass. That's wicked badass. That's in a movie. Preservation shit. Like to just, because every single one of your instincts says don't grab a knife blade.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. So for her to be able to override that in a fight or flight situation. A fucking cut versus... Good for her, man. Raped. Well, she got away because luckily a highway patrol officer was driving by at that exact moment. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And he arrested Davis. So the asshole tried to hang himself in prison this time. Unfortunately, he did not succeed. I was going to say bummer. It didn't work. Yeah, because if he had actually succeeded, he wouldn't have been able to do this. And we wouldn't, you know, Polly Classes family wouldn't have had to go through this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Exactly. So after the suicide. attempt he was sent to a psychiatric hospital. He escaped that place. Shit. It's always so scary when they're like able to escape. Yeah, because it's like, it adds like a whole different thing to their fucking personality. It really does. Immediately after escaping, he went on like a crime spree. Of course. He broke into a woman's home at one point. When she caught him, he slammed her over the head with a fireplace poker. Oh, fuck. Yeah. He's, he broke into an animal shelter. He stole money, guns and bullets from there, which I was like, why is
Starting point is 00:46:20 sat in an animal shelter, but I don't know. It's do you. Right after this, he tried to kidnap a woman in a parking lot again using a gun that he had stolen. Oh, that's scary. But she was screaming and she got away. Then he went back to his hometown of LaHonda, California, and he burglarized a home
Starting point is 00:46:36 again. Damn. When the police were called, they found him hiding in the backyard of the home. In the backyard? Yeah. Like, just keep running. Like, yo. Just keep going. Yeah. That's how dumb he is. You stupid. So he was originally he was immediately arrested and charged for attempting kidnapping, assault, just burglary.
Starting point is 00:46:57 All of the things. It's just a host of shit. The maximum time he could be set for these crimes that they could actually charge him with was six years. Wow. He served six years and then was paroled in March 1982 because at this time in California it was like you serve your sentence, you're paroled automatically. Right. So even the judge, though, didn't want to let him out. but he had to his hands were tied because what are you gonna do?
Starting point is 00:47:22 Because he said this dude shows no remorse for what he's done. Like he was worried. He was like, I don't want to send him back. And he even at one point was like, don't you feel bad for what you've done at all? And he was like, no. And then he even said he was like, if I felt bad about what I've done, I wouldn't have done them. Why would I keep doing it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Like he clearly was like, yeah, I don't give a fuck. So they let him out. That's so scary. He let out. He was let out. And one night he met a woman named Sue Edwards at a dive bar. And love was in the air. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:52 So he met her when she was dealing meth at the bar. You know, that really gets the boys going. Taylor's oldest time. It's like, my meth yard brings all the boys to the yard. My meth lab brings all the boys to the yard. Yeah, I was having a trouble with that one. I like you. I was having a trouble.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So together, you know, they robbed someone that they both knew because that's what you do in a new relationship. You find out who you both know and you rob that person. That's how you and John decided to get married. Yeah. We were like, who do we have as a connection between both of us? And then we robbed that person. Annie and I haven't done that yet. That's why we're not married.
Starting point is 00:48:25 But you know what? Next level shit. It's coming. Bonnie and Clyde shit. Let's get it. That's just next level shit. So let's see. So they robbed this woman they knew.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Davis, while they were robbing her, Davis pistol whipped her. Oh my God. And threatened to kill her whole family if she didn't listen to what they were saying. So he's really awesome. They then ran up to Washington State together. robbed a bank. A bank? Yeah, robbed some more banks in stores.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Like, they went on a literal like Bonnie and Clyde spree. Wow. And where eventually pulled over and arrested, he got the maximum 16 years in prison. This is when he was sent to California men's colony. So this is bringing us up to when he got out. And again, he was released due to prison overcrowding. He was released only eight years into his 16 years sentence. Like, built another prison then.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I don't know. That was like a real problem back then. I mean, it still is, but it became a real problem at one point. Let's build some more. We can't just, like, release people because we can't detain them. Just let all, like, the really bad guys out. It's fine. I mean, if we're going to be real about it, there's people that are in prisons that, like,
Starting point is 00:49:32 for, like, minor drug offenses that are, like, nonviolent. So let's let them go. I think that's the way to go. Because this dude belongs in prison. Yeah. But it's like, you know. You keep doing it. You won't go too far into that.
Starting point is 00:49:45 So because they entered the registration wrong and, you know, the criminal history didn't show up because at that time things all weren't as connected as they were now. Yeah. Like there were limitations in the commuter system. The officers were like, all right, well, nothing came up. So the office, and again, they didn't get the APB. So they don't know that, you know, maybe we should look into this guy a little more. And he passed the sobriety test.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah. So there's really nothing to do. It was just like, this is a weird dude. We should get them out. So they brought him back to the freeway and we're like, bye, sir. Wow. Well, now they're like, so now this is. bringing it back to like November 28th, two months later,
Starting point is 00:50:21 when Dana was like, what's all the shit on my property? Yeah. Remember that guy that was on my property two months ago? Right. Maybe he left it here. I don't know. So they're like, shit. Because they all of a sudden talk to those deputies and deputies are like, yeah, his name is
Starting point is 00:50:35 Richard Allen Davis. You know, this is what happened that night. And they're like, what night? And they were like October 1st and they're like, yeah. And then he's like, so they're like, fuck. Because now they're looking at all this shit and they're like, uh-oh. So now they're like, okay, we got to get a hold of him. So they got a hold of Richard Allen Davis.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And he was at his sister's place in, I think... Look it up. Yeah, I'm not even going to attempt this one. Hold on, I'll look it up. So that's where he was. They arrested him there, November 30th, for a parole violation stemming from a DUI warrant on him from October 19th. That's how they were able to grab him. Got it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 He was immediately questioned about Polly. He said he had no idea about anything. Yeah, totally. Didn't have anything to do with it. Never saw her, never saw our house. Of course not. On December 2nd, they were able to take that palm print that they got and compare it to his. Because now, because it was no good to them just by itself, but now they have someone that they can compare it to.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Well, it was a perfect match. Oh, good. So they brought this information to him. They're like, yo, your hand, how'd your handprint end up in there? That's like so weird. That never happens. It's real weird. to just like fly across the air and like materialize on her bed.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Shit. So he was like, okay, well, I'm not going to say anything unless I can speak to this sergeant who he had like apparently wanted to tell. Okay. So the sergeant talked to him and he said he immediately got on the phone and said, I fucked up big time. And he admitted that Polly was no longer alive. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:52:09 He agreed to lead investigators to where he had put her body and he did so later that evening. Okay. She was located off Dutcher Creek Road near Highway 101. and this was about 40 miles north from where they encountered him on Dana Jaffe's property. Oh, wow. So that's a little weird. She was found on her back under a large piece of plywood. And there was also other, like, random things placed on top of her.
Starting point is 00:52:33 She was wearing a nightgown that was pulled up under her arms. And her white skirt that she had been wearing was pulled up under her arms as well. That's so sad. She did have on underwear and, like, a little bra. Near her body, there was a piece of cloth and a rope. There was also hair and the knots of these things. They couldn't determine cause of death because she was very decomposed at the time. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:52:55 But they surmised the rope and cloth likely strangled her because of the hair and the correct size of the knot, basically. A doctor who did the autopsy on her remains said that they basically were like it was an awful way to find a 12-year-old girl. Yeah, I can't imagine. Because it had been a couple of months. They said that the skull had separated away from her body at that time. She wasn't decapitated when, you know, before this. It just happened to happen that way. And they said the hair had fallen from her head.
Starting point is 00:53:25 It was still there, but it like separates off of your skull. Does it eventually just disintegrate? Hair stays around for a long time. Yeah. But it had like separated from her skull, which is just a very spooky thing to see. Yeah, I don't like that. She was like partially mummified and like half of her was mummified. Half of her was skeletonized.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Oh. And again, they couldn't. They said there was like no organs left. There was nothing left. She was really decomposed. Wow. Which made it really hard. So let's see.
Starting point is 00:53:58 They found, they unfortunately did find semen on her clothing. They used UV light technology to check and they did find traces of semen. That's horrific. They interviewed Davis and he said he was in the park across from Polly's home that evening. that like really sketchy park he said he drank a ton he smoked a joint that he thinks was laced with PCP oh shit
Starting point is 00:54:21 he said he really doesn't remember much but he said he didn't know Polly he'd never seen her before but suddenly he was just in her house oh you know and he remembers some of the binding up of the girls and then poof he was just in the car and he didn't even know that Polly was in there until she said the rope
Starting point is 00:54:38 is too tight please elucin it around my arms so she said oh shit I didn't know you were here. Like he's acting like, yeah, it just happened. What the fuck. But maybe that is true if he like, no, I don't believe that at all. I just like that, can you imagine? He was very lucid according to the girls. He was very with it. Can you imagine though if like that was the case and then she's driving with this guy and then all of a sudden she's like, what the fuck? Yeah. No. And he realized that she's there. But you know what? That doesn't happen. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how that works.
Starting point is 00:55:06 No. That would never happen. You're not, I don't give a shit what drug you're on. You don't bust into someone's house and not remember it. If he was on, if he was really drugged up and had no idea what was going on, he was a very thorough person. Kidnapper. Because he literally like ripped up pieces of cloth. He cut up wires to tie them up. Do you put in pillowcases over their heads?
Starting point is 00:55:28 He asked them very lucid questions. When he, um, when he like cut the cloth, was it there that he cut the cloth? I'm not sure where he got the cloth. Because I wonder if he was like prepared to kidnap someone. Yeah. That's the thing. He's such a lying. sack of shit that you'll never get exactly what happened out of him.
Starting point is 00:55:47 So he's like, oh shit, don't know what to do. So he said, we drove around. They got lost a little. That's when his car got stuck on that driveway and Dana's house. Oh, she was in the car? Well, and he said he then took Polly out of the car, brought her into the woods to an embankment, told her, and he said he brought her there, just sat her on the embankment, and told her not to move or make a sound.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And he said she was there the whole time he was with those deputies. Oh, my God. He said he went and got her after this. They got back in the car. They drove. He stopped at a gas station for her to use the restroom. This is when he realized he was going to go back to prison for kidnapping, so he strangled her with a cloth and disposed of her.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Here's the thing, though. That's a giant load of bullshit. Yeah, she wasn't there when they did that, right? That's a giant load of bullshit. This guy is just a bullshitter. So there's no way that she was sitting there the entire time the deputies were there. No. And then he got her and drove her around with no one seeing her.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Because that's the other thing. No one saw her at any gas stations or him. And she's not in any surveillance footage. And then we're supposed to believe that he drove her somewhere else, murdered her and disposed her for there. Right. Like why? That doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:56:57 No. What likely happened and what they know happened. And I love that he was like, she had to go to the bathroom. So I love it. Well, that's him. Yeah. He constantly tries to make himself not the fucking humanize himself. Like, raging monster that he is.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah. So what likely happened is he went to that private road on Dana's property. He probably didn't know it was a private road. He brought Polly into the woods. He assaulted and murdered her in there. He then left her wherever he initially was going to dispose her of her in there. Because again, he didn't know this was private property. That's why all that shit was found in there.
Starting point is 00:57:30 So he left her there, went back to his car. It was stuck. So he started freaking the fuck out. This jives with the fact that he was sweaty, dirty, and covered. in leaves and sticks and acting like super frantic whenever someone approached him. Right. He knew that he had just assaulted and murdered a child and disposed of them in the woods and now people are approaching him.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Right. So what actually happened was that he spoke to the deputies with her in the woods wherever he had put her. Like she was dead. After he killed her. So while he's talking to these deputies, Polly's in the woods dead. Oh my God. Like nearby. When they let him go, I think he did.
Starting point is 00:58:08 like he claimed, wait for a little while before going back, retrieving her body, and he brought her somewhere else to dump her. Yeah. Of course, it's still, it's still absolutely sickening to think that those deputies were talking to him and letting him go while Polly was lying murdered nearby. That's so fucked up. Of course, it would, it seems worse if she was like alive in the wood, like just saying it. But that's just not true.
Starting point is 00:58:32 That's not what happened. No. And I feel like she would have tried to run. Exactly. None of it makes sense. It just none of it makes sense. None of it makes sense. All the murder stuff was in the woods right there.
Starting point is 00:58:42 He did it there. He had already assaulted her afterwards. Exactly. And that's why he was so, like, frantic and freaking out and sweaty and disgusting because he knew what he just did. So now he admits to kidnapping and murdering her. He's like, yep, did that. But he outright fuses to admit that he sexually assaulted her.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Even though they were like, where did your fucking semen come from then? There's semen on her. Like, you did it. We know this. But they can't prove it because she's so badly decompose. opposed, they cannot prove a sexual assault happened. Right. But all of them know it happened.
Starting point is 00:59:12 They all, it's like one of those things it's like, you know, but you can't prove without a reason, you know, it's just sucks. So the reasoning he won't admit, because you're like, why won't he just, he's already a monster. He kidnapped and killed her. Why wouldn't he just admit to what he did? Well, because he's a giant baby. He's just a giant pussy.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And he knows that if he went to prison and they knew that he raped. child that he would have i mean he would be targeted and dead right and so he's that big of just a little bitch that he can't bear the thought of going to prison with them knowing what he did to that child don't you think they do know well now they know right but the and it's like the it's so of course people who killed children are also not looked upon favorably by other prisoners um so he tried to claim that he didn't realize that she was a little girl. What? Because he knows if he goes to prison as a child murder or two.
Starting point is 01:00:12 He's like, either way, he's fucked. So now he's like, oh, yeah, no, I thought she was like. So he kept referring to her as quote, that broad when he would talk about it. Are you fucking kidding me? He was an 12 year old. You abducted her from a sleepover, dude. It's like you interrupted a slumber party. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:28 She was like 4 foot 10. Yeah. She weighed like 80 pounds. And she looks like a little girl. And if you see any pictures of her. her, she's just a beautiful little girl. Right. She looks her age. She's like this cute little 12 year old.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Right. He's a lying sack of human bowel excretion. That's what he is. He went to trial. He was convicted on June 18, 1996, convicted of first degree murder, burglary, robbery, kidnapping, and committing a lewd act upon a child. Oh, my God. Now, when he was sentenced, he did something so reprehensible that, I mean, It's fucked.
Starting point is 01:01:07 It's just beyond. There's no words for it. No, there really aren't. So I'm going to play this clip of what he said during his sentencing because it's just beyond. I would also like to state for the record that the main reason I know that I did not attempt any lewd act that night was because of a statement
Starting point is 01:01:25 the young girl made to me when walking her up the event. Just don't do me like my dad. I have to pay my views and so should you. That cry in the back is the saddest thing. Yeah, that was Mark Class' mother, so Polly Class' grandmother sobbing to what she just heard, which was not true at all. What happened was Mark Class said he initially took a beat after that, and then he looked over and saw his mother start sobbing, and he was like, I just could not stop myself. So this motherfucker tried to say that Mark Class had been raping his child. that like and then he puts out there as I walked your child to kill her she looked at me and said
Starting point is 01:02:25 please don't do me like my father like my dad so he the amount of just horror that he just placed on this family is like who comes up with that in their head like like who you're already a monster and then you do that like what and that is all just to get it off of him. He knows that there's evidence that she was assaulted and he knows that and he knows he's going to prison and he's a little bitch. So he's trying to put it and he doesn't give a shit that he's destroyed this family already. He's just going to keep destroying them even more. And it's like even just saying those things and hearing his stupid fucking face saying it makes me just I want a wretch when I hear him. When he says that statement, it literally makes me gag. Like, oh, it's just so
Starting point is 01:03:16 cruel. And a parent, so, so I, like you can hear in it, Mark Klas did like just jump up and try to like lunge at him. And I totally don't know the same exact thing. And he was held back and escorted out of the, out of the room. There has never been a time where it is more warranted for violence and for violence to be allowed than this, in my opinion. Like this poor man lost his daughter, this fucking monster who walked into her home and stole her out of her fucking bedroom during a sleepover. Literally. He raped her, he murdered her, and left her tiny little body in the elements alone. That is the most horrifying thing.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And then he has the fucking audacity to claim that her father is a pedophile. And that one of her last statements was about that. No, and it wasn't. And he wasn't. The depths of just evil that this guy is is beyond. You can, like, smell it. It is. Honestly, it...
Starting point is 01:04:15 I swear. That's why this case, like, hearing that stuff... You smell the evil. I had to, like, step away. I was like, I feel like it's like... It envelopes you. It, like, creeps into you. It's like, this really makes you...
Starting point is 01:04:27 It just stresses me out. So, Judge Thomas C. Hastings sentenced Richard Allen Davis to death for the murder, kidnapping, and assault of Polly Class. Good. I'm going to play just another really clip, another quick clip, because what the judge said was what we're all thinking.
Starting point is 01:04:53 This is always a traumatic and emotional decision for a judge. You've made it very easy today by your conduct. Because I know that the death penalty can be very black and white for a lot of people and I respect that. I myself, I've said it before.
Starting point is 01:05:12 This is not the first time I've said it. I sit in a very, gray area with it. I think there's a lot of gray in it. Yeah. This case really makes me firmly sit in my gray area because I know, in fact, in our class at one point was like, I know prison will for the rest of his life will not be like a picnic for him, but it's not enough. No, it's not. And he was like, I want him gone. And in his like statement to him, he even said he was like, the sooner you are taken off of this earth, the better we all will be for it. It's true. And I believe that. And I mean, not everybody's going to agree with me.
Starting point is 01:05:43 No one needs to yell at me about it. This is my opinion. You can have your opinion. If you're against the death penalty, I totally respect it. Not only do I respect it, I get it. Yeah, I get both sides. I can 100% see both sides of this argument. Because there's cases where I'm like, yeah, that doesn't know.
Starting point is 01:06:00 It doesn't fit. Because they can get it wrong. Because the thing is sometimes it fits and sometimes it doesn't. Exactly. And they can get it wrong. But in this case, it's like, cool. And it's like, but this case, it's like, get that fucker off the earth. Like this is an evil son of her dad murder him.
Starting point is 01:06:14 I know. Can that be allowed? Let him death by dad. Not lethal judgment. Just do it. And the last little clip I just want to play is Mark Class' father, Polly's grandfather, what he had to say about what this piece of shit said about his son. This is epic.
Starting point is 01:06:32 I love this man. This guy's awesome. He says it in such like a colorful way and you're just like, yeah. Here it is. As far as this man. is concerned, I wouldn't wipe him off my shoe. I'd burn the shoes and flush the ashes down the sewer, and I still wouldn't get down to where he is. What rang?
Starting point is 01:06:54 It became hysterical, because this man succeeded in what he was trying to do, which was pierced my son through the heart, and pierced the rest of the family. It was just plain despicable, and it shows the kind of people child molesters are. Like, fuck yeah, Grandpa. I know, literally. That is exactly how I feel. This is so weird of me to say, but I really love his voice. He does have a great voice. He does.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Like, he should narrate things. He should host something. Yeah, he has a wonderful voice. It's very soothing. And it's just, it's exactly like despicable. I was like, that is the perfect word for that. When he says, I wouldn't wipe him off my shoe. You can feel the emotion.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I'm going to start saying that to people. You can be like, I wouldn't wipe you off my shoe. The emotion in that statement, you're just like gives you chills because you're just like what he is feeling. I can't imagine. Beyond. Beyond. Because not only did he take his granddaughter away from him in the worst way imaginable, but then he says that about his son. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:08 It's like he is just getting like pounded on. This guy is just making sure. And he said he's like he pierces our family over and over. And he said he succeeded. Like he succeeded. doing what he wanted to do. And you can tell because in the court video, you can see this little fucking smirk on his face.
Starting point is 01:08:23 He's happy with what he did. And in the courtroom, Richard Allen Davis also would like flip the camera off and like kiss at the camera and so like he didn't give a shit. He had zero remorse. I hope he gets like fucking bludgeoned to a bloody pulp every day. Unfortunately
Starting point is 01:08:38 he's still fucking alive. That's fine. I hope he gets beaten up every day. He's in San Quentin State Prison. He's waiting his execution by lethal injection. He still has not met his fate yet. This case also brought into effect the three strikes law, and it was introduced under the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.
Starting point is 01:09:02 It basically is mandatory life imprisonment if a convicted felon has been convicted of a serious violent felony, and also has two or more previous convictions. One of those has to be a violation. violent felony. The other one could be something like a drug offense. Okay. But it's three strikes you're out. Right. So it's like if you have two violent felony on your record and you get caught for some drug offense, you go to prison for a mandatory life sentence. It's one of those things. A lot of people have a lot of feelings about it.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I could see. Yeah, I get it. But I think it was this case kind of like had something to do with it because it was like this guy has been in prison how many times for violent things. And And it's like he should have been in for like forever He was let out way too many times right and it's like he was let out way too quick Well and obviously rehabilitation just is impossible it wasn't happening for him so it's like come on Also APBs were changed to broadcast to all police channels after this The Polyclass Foundation was started by Mark Class the Polyclass foundation it's in Petaluma California it's a national nonprofit it's basically for the safety of all children
Starting point is 01:10:16 recovering missing children. They try to get public policies in place that will help keep children safe in their communities. They have actually, on their website, it says they've helped save more than 9,500 families of missing children. Wow. They counsel families of missing children, help people different ways to find their kids. They work with law enforcement. They help make and distribute posters for missing children. This is a great foundation.
Starting point is 01:10:48 They have an e-volunteer force that will distribute the posters. They'll help search. They have a hotline that has a 24-7 hotline for these things. Basically, he's just trying to help so that this doesn't happen to anybody else. And that he knows what these parents are going through and he wants to help. What a beautiful, beautiful gesture. He's also the founder and director of the Class Kids Foundation. It's a foundation to basically the mission is to stop crimes against children.
Starting point is 01:11:16 They have a nationally recognized search and rescue team. They help, I mean, they send out search managers. They help send out canine units. Wow. They, let's see, they work with the child abduction response teams in local state and federal agencies across the country. They will provide on-site and off-site online monitoring and lead submission to agencies conducting anti-child trafficking operation. They have a hotel information system database, which provides agencies with a database to match
Starting point is 01:11:55 online images with locations. And all of their services are free of charge. Oh, okay. That's amazing. Yeah. So my class is like really doing the damn thing. And I guess Eve, Polly's mother, like, is very quiet. She wants to stay away from most of this.
Starting point is 01:12:13 But she also is on the board of the Polly Club. Class Fendation. Good. And she, the father of Polly's younger sister, Annie, she was separated with at the time, they got back together. Oh, that's beautiful. So I hope they're living a wonderful life together. I do too.
Starting point is 01:12:30 So Mark Class was also very open recently about his opinions on Governor Newsom halting executions. Uh-huh. He was fucking pissed. Oh. And he came out and was like, he's working on the side of evil. Because in San Quentin is also Scott Peterson. I mean, a lot of horrible fucking monsters.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I mean, I'm sure a lot of people have different feelings about Scott Peterson because that last documentary came out and everybody all of a sudden doesn't think he did it. But, yeah, I mean, it's one of those situations that I understand why Mark Klass is pissed. Because he's been waiting a long time to see this fucker die. And I honestly, I would be in his shoes. Almost 25 years. So he was not happy that it hasn't happened yet. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 01:13:15 getting up there. It's like he wants to watch this happen. In fact, he said he would this is probably not funny to most people, but it's funny to me. He said he would bring champagne to the execution. Oh, yeah, same. I would do the exact same thing if you fucking murdered and raped my child. And especially if you are a parent, you get it. Listening, you get it. Come on. Like, don't tell me you don't get it. I would absolutely do that. I would 100% would toast watching them die. Like that's without a doubt. Yep. So again, this is a case. that really definitely brings up like the gray area with, you know, death penalty, you know, where you stand on that. But again, we respect if you stand on against, if you stand on four,
Starting point is 01:13:57 or if you're with us in the gray, we get it. I see all the sides for sure. I don't think we can ever just make a final. No. Nobody will all agree on what we should do with that. But so that is the horrific story of Polly class. That was a rough one. The only good thing about it is, that some good has come out of it. Yeah, that's true. And her father has for sure made sure that her name is attached to as many good things as possible. I love that. So yeah. All right. Well, if you need a break and you're on Instagram right now because you're like, ooh, I need to look at some makeup tutorials. Just pause for a second and follow us on Instagram at Morbid Podcast. Hit us up on Twitter. A morbid podcast. Send us a Gmail prefer.
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Starting point is 01:15:20 even though you did have a bad childhood, it doesn't give you any excuse to be a fucking mean, mean, mean, mean dude and fucking hurt people and don't flip off the camera and make kissy faces and accuse people's dads of bad things that they didn't do because they didn't do that, and you're a monster, and then you're going to really get fucked up in prison, and it's okay, I hope you do.
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