Morbid - The Lipstick Killer (Part 2)

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

The brutal murders of Ross, Brown, and Degnan shocked the city of Chicago and terrified and outraged the city’s residents, who wanted only to feel safe once again. Under intense pressure from the press, the public, and city officials, investigators were desperate to catch the killer and solve the case by any means necessary, even if they had to break more than a few rules and ignore some inconvenient facts in order to do it.Thank you to the incredible Dave white of Bring Me the Axe & 99 Cent Rental Podcast for research!ReferencesAmended Petition for Executive Clemency. 2002. C-06103 (Illinois Prisoner Review Board, April).Arizona Republic . 1946. "Defendant fails in plea to jury." Arizona Republic, June 20: 18.Banks, Joe. 1946. "Prisoner says he killed girl." Tucson Daily Citizen, June 26: 1.Chicago Tribune. 1946. "Police resift all clues in Degnan case." Chcago Tribune, January 12: 1.—. 1946. "2 rewards offered for 'execution' of girl's kidnap-slayer." Chicago Tribune, January 8: 2.—. 1946. "Call Heirens sane; today's plea in doubt." Chicago Tribune, September 4: 1.—. 1946. "Child stolen from her bed during the night." Chicago Tribune, January 8: 1.—. 1945. "Ex-WAVE slain, plea written in red on wall." Chicago Tribune, December 11: 1.—. 1946. "Handwriting similarity to killer's shown." Chicago Tribune, June 27: 1.—. 1946. "Heirens gets new grilling following 'futile' lie test." Chicago Tribune, July 1: 1.—. 1946. "Heirens made choice of plea, attorneys say." Chicago Tribune, August 7: 12.—. 1946. "Murders, assaults, thefts, shooting; Heirens' story." Chicago Tribune, August 7: 1.—. 1945. "Mystery grows in WAVE slaying." Chicago Tribune, December 12: 1.—. 1943. "Organize posse of tenants and catch prowler." Chicago Tribune, August 9: 18.—. 1946. "Repudiates his 'confession' in Degnan slaying." Chicago Tribune, June 29: 6.—. 1946. "Student held in Degnan case puzzles police." Chicago Tribune, June 29: 1.—. 1946. "Tubs in basement, saw and ax held best clews." Chicago Tribune, January 9: 1.—. 1946. "U.C. Sophomore, facing police quiz, fakes coma." Chicago Tribune, June 29: 1.—. 1946. "Use of serum in Heirens quiz still mystery." Chicago Tribune, July 1: 5.—. 1945. "Widow is found in home; suitor quizzed." Chicago Tribune, June 6: 10.Decatur Daily Review. 1946. "Chicago girl kidnapped; note demands $20,000." Decatur Daily Review, January 7: 1.—. 1946. "Janitors grilled in kidnap-death." Decatur Daily Review, January 9: 1.Decatur Herald. 1945. "Brutal WAVE slayer sought." Decatur Herald, December 12: 1.Higgins, Michael. 2007. "1940s killer denied parole." Chicago Tribune, August 3: 1.—. 2007. "Is 61 years in prison enough retribution." Chicago Tribune, July 29: 1.Kennedy, Dolores. 1991. William Heirens: His Day in Court. New York, NY: Bonus Books.New York Times. 1946. "Heirens confesses in no-chair deal." New York Times, August 7: 36.Pantagraph. 1945. "Former Wave found brutally slain in Chicago bathtub." Pantagraph, December 10: 1.People of the State of Illinois v William Heirens. 1954. 33165 (Supreme Court of Illinois, September 23).People of the State of Illinois v William Heirens. 1995. 1-90-2240 (Appellate Court of the State of Illinois, March 15).Priddy, Gladys. 1945. "Slain ex-WAVE a friend to all, roomate says." Chicago Tribune, December 14: 3. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, weirdos. I'm Elena. I am Ash. And this is morbid. Yep, it is. It is indeed. It's morbid. And this is going to be a two-parter that is going to be released. Bang, bam. Just all at once. Big boom, bang. So you don't have to wait for it. But I wanted to split it because sitting for like two full hours on the same two of a case is sometimes not everybody's cup of tea and not a lot of people have that time. So I like to split it so you can eat it in little bits. But also, this is late because my house has turned into an infirmary. Yep.

And I turned into one of the patients in case you can't tell. Yeah. None of us have cove cold. Yeah, no COVID. We're all vaccinated here. But we, yeah, all the kiddos got sick. They all have like just yucky colds. Yeah.

We're not really sure where they came from because we don't go anywhere. but such is life. And I think at this point, any germ that is floating around, we're all just going to get demol, like, steamrolled by because our bodies per year and a half have not even had a common cold. This is so foul. The amount of tissues that I woke up to on my fucking sat, my bedside table, I was up all night last night, all night. The amount of tissues that I have cleaned up around my house is yeah see that's why i need i need a mom for that shit you do but you know what ash and i think if you follow me on twitter you saw that i was like ash is a goddess that has been placed here on earth ash took one for the team yesterday i caught barf ash caught vomit like in my hands

with a paper towel on them but still caught it i was really i was really proud of that yeah you should be proud of that you have every right to be proud of that you should have a medal Yeah, because, you know, kids don't blow their nose, and that ends up irritating tummies. And that's what happened in my house yesterday. So it's been a tough few days. It's been a tough week, really, because one of my kids, like my middle child was the one who was getting it first, and that was like towards the beginning of the week. And then it kind of trickled slowly until it culminated in a bar fest.

And now John has it. Everybody has it. I don't understand how you don't have it. I think it's like a mom or a parent thing. Like someone in the house should have a force field around them, and I think I just happen to have it. Well, I wish that I could have it, please. You can't. Only one of us can.

Okay. So, and especially now that John has it, I have to. Yeah. That's just like a whole other kid having it. Yeah. Your husband gets it. The husband gets it now. So now it's like, at one point, John was laughing because.

because like my youngest was like, Mama and just wanted to be snuggled. And then my middle was like, can you come down in the playroom and, you know, do crafts with me? And then my oldest was like, can you come in my room and look at my iPad with me or my like Kindle, whatever those little things are that we got them. They're Kindles. But they call it. It's because they call them iPads. But yeah, they're like, can you play on my iPad with me? And I was like, well, okay, like there's three of you.

and I don't, I'm not really sure what to do here. So I was like, okay, first let me just snuggle this one. And then I'm going to go real quick. And John was like, should we cut mama in three pieces and just each of you take her? I love it. Because then he was like, but I need mama too. So it's been, it's been quite a trip. I laid on my couch today and watched Mad Money.

I'm very jealous. But I, you know, just sterilized the entire house. She did. It smells great in here. It does. It's, it's, it's, it's, but what? bleach. There's all kinds of good. I need to sterilize my house. It was honestly a good excuse to at this point. Yeah. A good, a good summer cleaning. Yeah. So honestly, I've heard of a lot of people having all

of a sudden colds and like nasty colds happening all of a sudden. So my thoughts are with all of you with colds because I feel like they're way worse this year. Yeah. They just like they hit different. They hit different. So, you know, everybody stay healthy. Stay blessed, fam. Think of us because we're going to. going to get through this. I already am feeling better. Yeah, and everybody's starting to get on the mend anyways, but this is why everything was kind of pushed this week. There was just a lot happening. And we didn't want to totally cancel the whole week, so we figured we just push it to the end. And now you're getting both parts, which is actually better for you. So you know what? It all

worked out for everybody, I feel like. You know what? I suffered at their hands. At your expense. Yeah, not at my hands. I don't know. Not at your hands. I don't know. This cough medicine happening. There's very little sleep happening. So, you know, we're here. We're here. We're going to do this. And this part two episode, see? You're getting there.

Here we are. There's very little sleep to be had. So this two part episode is about somebody who I had only heard the name I had never really looked into the case. Okay. Wow. His name is Daryl Rich. Daryl. And this takes place in California.

So you know it's about to be whack. Wowy. Wowy, she says. Wowie Kazawi. I knew it was coming. I love wowie Kazawi. This is one of those. Okay. There's a lot happening here. This is going to be very long. So everybody sit tight. Okay. I'd like to say that one of these sources that I used for this, so there's tons of like articles, information. I use the court transcripts because we love when we can find court transcripts. I love that. So those had a ton. But I also found a book called A Season of Madness. And it's by Robert Scott. It's really good about this case. It is so detailed.

And let me tell you, after you hear this case the way that I'm going to tell you it, I definitely recommend getting that book and reading it. Just be warned that there is a lot of graphic detail. I was going to say, is it grafic? It's grayfic. Because this is going to include, like, rape. There's kidnapping. There's brutal murders.

I mean, it's got it all. So just know that going in, but it's a great book. He did a great job. Good job, Robert. Go Robert. Good job. High five. So let's get on with Daryl Rich.

Oh, guy. Daryl Rich was born on February 14th, 1955, Valentine's Day Babe. I think that's a Scorpio, but I'm not positive. There you go. I mean, I don't know if that means anything in regards to what he does, but... Always. It's not good. So he was actually adopted at two days old by Dean and Lily Rich.

Oh. He grew up on Gas Point Road in Cottonwood, California. He had one younger sister, Sharon, who was also adopted. Okay. He also, he's an Aquarius. I'm always wrong. He's an Aquarius. There you go.

I know. I love that. It's my favorite. I think that makes him, and you're always like, nope. No, it doesn't. But you know what? You give it a shot. She's dipping her toe in the astrology pond.

She doesn't know everything. Exactly. And you don't claim to. Never. Well, Lily, mom was, I don't know if anybody can guess. Terrible. She was stern and she was domineering. Oh, you know, that tends to be, domineering tends to be the word of the day.

That's like the, yeah, that's the key word with all of these dudes. She ran a daycare out of the home. So that was how she brought in income to the house. And by doing that, obviously all day, her attention is going to be focused on the kids that she is being paid to look after. So she's going to be paying a lot more attention to these kids. unfortunately, Darrell was kind of ignored a lot. He definitely took notice. He was not happy with it.

He started resenting her pretty quick and pretty early on. But as a kid, he was kind and helpful with children. Huh. He was good with children. Interesting. He would especially take care of the young kids. Like, he really liked the young kids. He even saved a kid's life once.

Bitch what? Who fell into like some canal, like some like, crazy, dangerous canal. He jumped into the canal and saved him when he was younger. He gave a serial killer. Yeah. So he saved a kid's life and then as we find out later, he will take a kid's life. That is insane. It's unreal. So Dean, the father, was kind of absent, definitely not huggy, not involved with his kids really that much. His wife would actually later testify at Daryl's murder trial later that whenever Daryl wanted to go into his room and be alone, which was a lot. He liked to sequester himself in his room, which whatever, he was a teenager or like a

younger kid. He just wanted to be alone. And he was a loner. He just didn't have a lot of friends. He never really made a lot of friends growing up. But he would go into his room to try to escape and just kind of like be by himself. And Dean would beat him with a belt for like for wanting to go into his room. Okay. So I'm like, that's great. Together, Dean and Lily as a couple were very volatile. And they would fight all the time. They fought in front of the kids at the dinner table, especially all the time. And he later said, like, once they were interviewing him way later, that he hated eating together as a family because that's when they would fight. It's also like, why would you want to eat together as a family at that point? Which is just so sad. This sets up. Yeah, and it's really

sad. And his sister later said that too, and that, like, Darrell would just try to help, like, would try to make his parents happy. But she said that was impossible. Like, so she was like, He would always try to make him happy, but he never could. So do you feel like this is a nature and nurture, or do you think it's a bit of both? This is a bit of both, I think, for sure. Because he, throughout his life, we'll see that, like, people would give reports, like his teachers or psychiatrists or anybody that he fails at whatever he's trying to do, but they all say, but he tries really hard.

So it's like never one of those things where it's like, well, he just doesn't really give a shit and he's not trying and he's just whatever they're all saying like yeah he's not good at this and like he can't do this but like he tried really hard oh that's really sad which when he's a kid that's sad yeah let's feel bad for the kid the adult is a fucking monster and I want you to know that right up front he's a fucking monster all of this is like oh oh okay sad darrell and then later you're like go fuck yourself darrell yeah yeah so so there's that And again, like I said, school was tough, especially at first. He had trouble concentrating. He was definitely like a moody kid. He was just always grumpy and angry and just not fun to be around. I wonder why. He was held back in first grade and which a lot of kids are held back that early on. Yeah. I think that happens a lot. I shouldn't say a lot. But like it's it's a pretty like whatever thing, especially at that age kindergarten in first grade. But his guidance counselor actually said that he was becoming a bit scary and was like recorded this and said that his mood swings were becoming way harder to predict.

And that quote, without treatment, they felt that he could become violent. Oh. No one did anything about this. That's what they should have done. So that's a failure on everybody else as well. In third grade, he fell off a horse and was really hurt. Uh-huh. And at 15 years old, his parents finally divorced.

Okay. After tons of fighting. He was super angry at this point, and this really only pushed it further because obviously that's hard for any kid. And, I mean, it was likely for the best because they were fighting all the time, but, you know, kids don't see it that way, of course. No, of course not. So he moved in with his mother to Southern California at first, and his grades got worse.

His behavior continued to get worse. he was a full-blown problem at this point. A terror. Yeah, literally. After only a bit, he moved back with his father and his new stepmom at this point. Shit got worse at school. He ended up being suspended for fighting at one point, and he just wouldn't show up at others. So things are just really falling apart all over the place. Now, this is like sad and scary. He was at 17. He had a girlfriend named Mary. And Mary and Daryl had a very volatile relationship because that's what he was shown as a child. And, you know, when that's demonstrated to you daily growing up, that's really all you're going to know anything else. So eventually they did break up. She said later that he did,

I think like he, she said he didn't get violent all the time or anything like that, but I think there was one scenario where he like slapped her in the face. Oh. And I think that was kind of the the straw that broke the camel's back, they broke up. He was devastated, like fell into a dark depression. Everyone around him said, like, he was despondent. He went out into the woods one day with a gun, and he shot himself in the chest with it and an attempted suicide. Obviously, it didn't kill him, but it seriously injured him, and it caused a lot of psychological

issues, obviously. Like emotional issues, all that's not something. To survive that is like a big, and I think you're either going to take it one of two ways. But yeah, so as he recovered, he was still depressed and probably more depressed because now he's dealing with all these emotional issues that have come up. He's drinking really heavily. In 1973, again, he's 17 years old. After he had recovered from his attempted suicide, he shot his gun one day at a sheriff's vehicle

with the sheriff inside. The bullet went like right over the top of the car. He was immediately arrested. And when they arrested him, he said that he was hoping that the sheriff would have shot and killed him. That was like his second attempted suicide by cop. Yeah, that's why he did it. So he ended up seeing a psychologist, obviously. He's 17.

Her name was Mary DeCosta and she wrote in her notes, quote, he was very depressed and had a hunger for affection and reassurance. He was very sensitive. to rejection. This is so poignant for his later, what he does later. Rejection is what sets his anger off almost every time. Because it's like he's been rejected his whole life by like his mom and dad. Exactly. Now he got rejected by his girlfriend. And he doesn't, yeah, for good reason. So it turns him into an absolute monster. He ended up stopping going to meetings once he had served what he needed to serve and a month later is when he started his bullshit, like his big crime spree.

Okay. So this happened and then it was like, boom. He stopped his meetings and he was like, I'm out. Oh, shit. So August 16th, 1973 at 1.30 a.m. A woman named Kathleen Webb was 19 years old. She was with this guy named Mark Steele who was 20 years old. They were driving in like a Volkswagen Beetle, I think it was, because the 70s, of course.

they were going through Lake Redding Park. Mark was driving. Kathleen was in the passenger seat and suddenly a car pulls up next to them. And there's a bunch of guys in the car. They're just like whatever. But then the driver who later Kathleen said had dark hair with a dark mustache. He asked them if they knew Chris. Like just leaned out the window.

It was like, do you guys know Chris? I'd be like, we're driving and I don't know who that is. Also like Chris. I know like everybody has that name. Well, so Mark was like, Chris who? Chris who? Like literally said

Chris who and then the guy answered with like some last name so Mark was like no I've never heard of him so they're about to leave

and one of the dudes in the back seat says how about letting us borrow your trick your chick and Mark is like fuck off so Mark I guess

yelled something like fuck you or screw you or something which honestly is nicer than most people probably would have done and this car follows them

as they drive away and is now speeding behind them and then rams their car from the passenger side. It's like a horror movie. Yeah, it literally is. So they tried to keep going. They're like just trying to get the fuck away from them. And eventually they kept like dinging their car in the back. They eventually made it so the car spun around. And the four guys get out of the car, walk towards them. Oh my God. But they were able to speed away in the car with literally like parts of the car falling off as they're driving away. God, can you imagine like the terror that?

No, four grown men, like, after doing that, I feel like there's no limits to what they'll do. That reminds me of the movie, oh, I keep talking, I'll think of it. Keep talking. Nocturnal animals. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen that? It does.

Yeah, it's terrifying. Yeah, really scary. So I guess later, Kathleen said, Mark drove as fast as he could, hoping to avoid meeting them again. We went straight to the police station and they did not follow us. I'd seen the license plate number of that car and remembered it, which like badass. It was a sedan and sort of purple looking in the dark under the lights. The car was apparently brown, but she thought it looked purple. I could see that, though.

Now, when all of the information was relayed and the license plate number was looked up, it was determined that the car was registered to Lily Rich. Okay. They were able to look up Daryl's criminal record from his assault on the sheriff, of course, so he's in the system already. They placed the mugshot in the lineup for Kathleen and Mark. Kathleen couldn't pick any of the men out as the guy. She was like, I don't know. They all look like him.

But Mark was like, that's the guy and chose Darrell. Okay. So they go to Gerald's house and Lily's there. So they talk to Lily, his mom. And they see that the car in the driveway matches the car in their assault and that it has severe damage to it. Oh, no way. So they tell her everything and she tells them, well, the previous night. when this all happened, she said, Daryl was going to a friend's house with her car. She said,

it didn't have any damage when it left. So she was like, that's new damage. She called Daryl at work, which was at like a welding company in the area. And she was like, you should come home. Like right now. Yeah. So he came home. And he basically was like, yep, hi. Yeah, I had the car yesterday, but like that store you have is wrong. And he said, here's the thing. He said, last night, I went to my friend Russ's house with the car. He said he and Russ only hung out for like five to ten minutes. And then he said he was going to meet a girl, like visit a girl he knew in the area. And he said he was trying to find where she lived because he had never been to her house before. So he drove the car to a parking lot with like a Bank of America. And he said it was on California Street. So he's giving like really

specific shit. Right. Which is always. I was going to say that someone is lying. And he said he's sitting there. He has no reason to be sitting there, but he wants you to suspend reality for this story of his, that he's just sitting in his car on this Bank of America parking lot for literally no reason. And he says, while he's there, this guy just walks up to him. And he says, this is a guy he doesn't know. And he says, quote, some guy I didn't know asked if he could borrow the car and go get some cigarettes. I let him do it. And he was gone for about an hour and a half. I think this was about 10.30 or 11 p.m. The car wasn't damaged when I had it, but I didn't notice if it was damaged when the kid brought it back. I then came back to Cottonwood and goofed around the Cottonwood in for a while.

Okay. So he let's just lay, I just want to be sure that we all understand this. So he takes, he's like, Mom, can I use the car? I'm going to go visit my friend Russ. And she's like, yeah, sure, totally. He goes and visits rush for five to ten minutes. Right. Then he goes to find a girl who he's never been to her house.

I don't know where she lives. He stops in a bank parking lot and just sits there for literally no reason. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? And then a person who he has never before in his life met walks up to his car and says, Hey man, can I borrow your car to go get cigarettes? Absolutely. And he says, sure.

Yeah, for sure, buddy. And then that guy returns the car and doesn't steal it. Like that would have happened. And then he says, I didn't notice if there was damage when it came back. I didn't notice that. There was, like, pieces falling off. Yeah, I didn't notice that. I didn't, I didn't realize that there was severe damage to the car.

I just, I didn't know. Who knew? Weird. He's like, so I just went, you know, I went back and I just hung out. What the, like, are you stupid? Yeah, no. So they were like, yeah, that's an awesome story. Totally.

So they probed him a little further, and he said, this happened around 9 p.m. And the kid was near 19 or 20, and he had black hair with big sideburns, and he had never met him before this. Uh-huh. When the police asked him what time he got home, his mom broke in and answered for him by saying 2.30 a.m. Oh. So his mom was like, bitch, please. You're a fucking dirty liar.

You're a criminal. So they tell him how people had seen that car with that license plate around 2 a.m. And he said, well, if it was there, I must have been there too. What the fuck, Darrell? Yeah, you were there. What the fuck? This is who he is as a person. too. He's very just like, well, you know, you know, he's very 70s, like, throughout his entire

existence. He's just like, yeah, you know what? If it was there, I must have been there too, man. Peace, man. Like, my spirit must have been in that car as well, man. And it's like, what the fuck? He also said he knew one person in that area, and it was a guy named Chris. The police were like, oh, weird, these two people who were assaulted said the driver asked them. Sorry. So the driver asked them if he knew a guy named Chris. And his response to that was,

oh, why would you say the name? He offered that information. Why would you say that? They didn't even ask him. He literally was like, yeah, I don't know. I guess if it was there, I must have been there too. And by the way, in case you were wondering, I only know one person in that area.

And like, I know you didn't ask this, but like, his name is Christopher. Why would you say that? Because we're friends, me and Chris. And then he's like, that's weird. It was almost like it was like a nervous, like, tick or something. And he just unleashes it. Yeah.

It's the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. He's trying to be like so helpful, like while lying. Yeah. And then they're like, what that's so crazy because they said that the person who did this asked if they knew a Chris. And his response is, oh. What a quinky day. Oh, just oh.

So Daryl, I know this is shocking. He was arrested. No way. He later pled guilty to assault, and he was sent to live at Crystal Creek Conservation Camp in Redding. This is a maximum security facility, but it was to give inmates a chance to, like, really grow. It was mainly for young men. It was like kind of, it was a rehabilitation facility for sure. He did great there, apparently.

He got along with everybody, was like a model inmate. He started dating a girl named Linda when he got out. I was like, I buried the lead there. when he got like right when he got out he was dating a girl named linda and everyone was hoping like you know what he seems like he's going to chill out maybe this is just he had a moment he had a journey and maybe that journey is done and we're going to start a new one here we go i was going to say here we go chris here we go chris where's chris and all i would love to know if they were like like talk to chris everybody has last name everybody hates chris are you there chris what

do you think of all this were you the only person that darrell knew in that area i'll actually I only know one Chris? Yeah. Wait, no, that's true. I know a lot more than one Chris. I feel like everybody knows more than one Chris. You do. So he's dating Linda.

He was on probation after all of this, obviously, when he got out. Linda loves a bad boy. Yeah. In all reports that came back, like, pointed to the fact that without alcohol, they said he seemed to be way better. He thrived way more when he wasn't on alcohol. Wow. Guys, it's happening.

It's happening. When he was not partaking in too much alcohol. When he was not on that booze, when he was not partaking heavily in the alcohol, he was not aggressive at all without it. He was very chill. They were hopeful that he was on the right path if he just stayed sober. Yeah. He doesn't. I just want to put that out there.

So July 30th, 1974, shit went to rye. You don't say. Daryl was out drinking with friends. booze. And he got in a fight with one of his friends. So, wait, he was on alcohol? He was on alcohol. He was on the alcohol at that point.

He was. He was on the alcohol. And he got in a fight with one of his friends. And, you know, like, when you get into fights with friends, like, this stuff happens. He just tried to, like, beat him to death with a tire and friend things. What? Yeah, it's just, I mean, you haven't done that. I can't say enough.

I cannot say in this lifetime that I have done that. No, there's never, no, okay. No. I guess it's just me, but I guess it's just me and Daryl. But yeah, Darrell literally tried to beat his friend to death with a fucking tire eye. Just for those like gullible gussies out there, she's kidding. I am kidding. I'm kidding.

I know sometimes my dark sense of humor slash sarcasm doesn't register all the time. So just to be very clear, I have not tried to do that. But Darrell has. Not to my knowledge. Daryl has. That I know. That I am sure of. The fuck. He was arrested again and brought to a hospital because he was also like, you know, injured in that fight. Yeah. And there was a doctor that was trying to attend to his wounds and he literally attacked the doctor. Was he like on anything other than elk? Not that I read, but he was just like really, really drunk. He also assaulted the arresting officer.

He had to be legitimately subdued. Yeah, I mean, after a while, they're only going to do so much. Now, obviously, this little mishap violated his probation. Oh, it did. Because he's now being charged with assault with a deadly weapon. So he was sent directly to the California Youth Authority. While there, his father passed away, and he got news that his girlfriend, Linda, was pregnant.

So lots of things to work out while in prison. He has some time to think about these things. That's good. There's always a silver lining. There is. When he was released from his sentence, he moved in with Linda and the new baby. Okay. The baby was born without him? Yeah, the baby was born without him. They moved actually next door to his mother's home. He got a job at a lumber mill as a rip-saw operator. I feel like that's confusing.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's a great idea, but like a home with a deadly weapon is what you just served time for. Who am I? But let's put you in charge of Ripsaw's. The manager of the Ripsaw operation there? I'm not. I don't know who is. Like, I wouldn't even give this guy a razor scooter. Dear Lumberyard.

What the fuck? What made this seem like? I just, if he's the application that you accepted, what were the other ones? Maybe we're taking it back, though, to, like, John Robinson. And he, like, they just didn't. Maybe. There's no way they saw that he was just, like, in prison. I can't imagine that stack of applications.

If he was the one, they were like, you know who we should. should make the ripsaw operator. Let's go for that guy. That guy. Like, not, not these ones. Like, what did the other ones do? Maybe they didn't have an, okay, it was experience. It was experience. There you know, experience with a deadly weapon. On the job, you know, outside of the job experience. Yeah, like an apprenticeship, I guess. Yeah, he brings a lot to the table. There's that. I mean, somebody thought he was great. So, and again, people were like, all right, he's got a lady. He's got a baby. He's off the sauce. He's got a baby. He's off the sauce. He's a job as a rip saw operator. We don't know. Question mark, question mark. That one's a little hairy,

but like he's got all of this. Maybe he's really getting his shit together. That seems to be a pattern through Daryl Rich's life. Yeah. Is that we are always saying maybe he's getting his shit together. And spoiler alert, he never is. You know how many people are like that though? He never is. I can think of five. Till the very end, he never is. So he was, but you know what's crazy? he was even taking time out of his day and volunteering at a local high school to help with like wood shop. Wow. Because he had skills.

Do you think that he like wanted to be good? I feel like part of him, part of him it seems to me like he didn't want to do what he does. Yeah. That's just who he is. I think he was trying to fight against who he really is, but it took over. He's a dichotomy. I do think he's in control. And I think he gives in to his.

darker impulses and that's the problem. But I think there was a little part of him that wanted to just live a normal life, but he just didn't. Okay. And it's like, I feel like that's the problem with all of these dudes. A lot of them are just straight up evil. But there are some that you're like, I feel like part of you wanted to not be in the shit storm, but like you chose to. Like my good girl, Tatiana says, choices. Choices. Choices. I'm saying. So at some point, he and Linda did get married. I couldn't find anything about when that happened. It just happened. You know, they got married.

It's not that pretty. That's really all that matters. Nothing really hinges on that, so I think we're okay. It's okay. Nobody's going to yell at you. Well, I don't know that for sure. Yeah, I didn't want to take up too much time looking for it. It's really the problem here. That's okay.

So sometime in October, 1975, he did get violent with Linda and slapped her during an argument. No, we don't slap. Yeah. They did get through it, but he did it again in December. Oh, that makes me so sad. So she left. after the second one. She left with the baby for a week, but came back. Yeah. But apparently that changed things for him because he never got violent with her again.

Okay. Well, it's like he saw like what he was going to lose. Yeah, it scared him into on the straight and arrow. So April, I wrote April 1276. That's not the date. April, April 1976. Is everything okay? He got in a bad car accident. Oh, no. And he fucked up his face, especially. He had a huge scar on the bridge of his nose. He had, like, a ton of surgeries to fix all these things. But he ended up with a giant scar on the bridge of his nose. Dang.

He became very insecure about this scar. He would say no one would love him and, like, he'd be depressed about it. Like Linda already did. Linda was like, I mean, like, we're married and have a baby. Like, I feel like I've proven that. I feel like I'm holding it down a little bit here. It just, he got numerous plastic. surgery's done on it, but it's still sucked at the end. So now the drinking begins again because

he's trying to cope with this depression and insecurity. And now that he's drinking, he turns back into the asshole. He really is. And he starts having affairs now. Oh, Kalinda. Because now he's insecure. So now he's got to prove that he's like this like macho dude and I'm still nice to look at. So I'm just going to have affairs on you. So they started having more arguments where although he didn't her, she said he was very aggressive. Okay. And it was scary for her. Yeah. So in 1977, he literally kicked her and the child out of their home. I hate him.

And so she left him for good and was like, fuck you. And never came back. She was like, nope, bye. So the following year, he met a girl named Darlene. And I guess they met at a park. And according to Season of Madness, the book that I mentioned, he said during one of their first conversations, he just randomly said this, the cops have been accused. me of a murder at Whiskeytown Lake. On like their first date, he said that? Like one of their first conversations. Okay.

Why would he think that would like be smooth? I don't like what is, no. What's the purpose of that? Because also, what's weird is there wasn't a murder at Whiskeytown Lake. Not that anybody knew of. Like, there was no reports of any murders there. He was not being questioned for any murder because there wasn't one. So now people are like, was he?

Like now, like, hindsight, investigators are like, is there a murder there that we don't know about? Or do you think that he was, like, trying to see what her reaction would be? I don't know. Because at this point, it's like he hadn't murdered anyone yet that we know of. Like, do you think he was, like, planning on it? I don't know. Or, like, he knew, like, eventually, like, because of who you was that it would lead to that. I almost think he really likes painting himself as a victim.

Uh-huh. And I think he likes getting sympathy from people. and I think he gets weird, like, affection out of being like, yeah, I'm getting accused of this. Like, people think I'm a shithead. You would think that you would go with something like a little smaller, though, like not murder. Yeah, you would think you'd go a different angle, but not Darrell. He's really, he's really into this. Doing the damn thing.

This method, as we'll see. So they dated, but then they broke up a few times. Like, it was one of those, weirdly. So strange. But then in 78, they got back together and she already had a baby. With somebody else. Somebody else. Okay.

She said he was jealous of the baby. Oh, yeah. Like, jealous of the attention. That'll happen. Like, when he was younger and was jealous of the attention, his mother would give the other kids, it was the exact same thing. He didn't heal his childhood trauma. That's why. And then he was really nice to little kids when he was little, but when he got older, he hated little kids.

Uh-huh. And he, so, and what's weird is Darlene started to babysit kids in their home like his mom. That's weird. that weird and he hated them. He like wouldn't be in the house when they were there. Wow. Yeah. Because he was probably like afraid like history was repeating itself. Yeah, it's so strange. I mean, it was. But it's like he picked someone that was like his mother, but like not. I don't, it's very strange. They say that you do. This is just like so far. So their relationship was volatile. He was, he had many series of depressions. He was, he was depressed a lot of his life. She said she began to be

afraid of him and his temper. She didn't want him around the kids that she was babysitting and her child. He would also leave for like entire nights at a time and like wouldn't tell her where she was he was going. So she was ignoring a lot of signs that were coming in. A lot of shit happening was weird. He would come home early in the morning and lie about where he was. She would find jeans in the wash in the garbage or like in the wash or in the garbage or like stashed away in the garage she would see sneakers that he was wearing the previous night that were like covered in dirt and mud out in the garage and she was like why where are you doing like what the fuck but she didn't know what was happening she was like I don't know if I should accuse him of cheating on me but like that's weird

why is he like covered in mud yeah like is he cheating on me with like a swampster cheating on me with like a swamstress I mean valid questions it's a completely valid question you took the words out of my mouth but you made them better I want you to know that I literally I just I don't even know what to say yeah that's what she was concerned about

she was like what's happening people have all kinds of concerns what am I supposed to think here So what she didn't know, that these nights that he wasn't coming home, he was out raping and assaulting multiple women. Okay. That escalated quickly. Yeah, it sure did. He was also being foul in other ways. He was dating a 15-year-old. Um, what? Yep. He was dating a 15-year-old named Lori. And how old was he at this point? He was 21 at this point.

Oh, not all right. No, that's not all. And although Darlene had been kind of ignoring some of these, you know, flags that were shoot up, she was starting to get a little suspicious. So she was starting to take action on it. So she decided that she was going to look in his car and just see what was going on in there. And she found an earring, like a woman's earring. And she found a clump of hair that had been pulled out of a scalp.

Oh, my God. Yep. So she asked him about these items. She didn't. She was like, what's this about? And he said that he didn't know where the hair was from. He didn't even have an explanation. I don't know.

Don't ask me about that. And he said the earring was probably his ex's earring. What about the hair pulled directly from a skeleton? So she threw the earring out, which later we kind of can tell where that earring came from. But yeah, he offered no explanation about the hair. He had no idea where that came from, and she just dropped it. Oh, okay. Things We Don't Drop is people's hair.

Number 407,000 on things we don't drop. That's what we're learning in this podcast. So June 13, 1978, this was one of those nights that Daryl didn't come home. That night, 25-year-old, now these names that I'm going to use for the surviving victims, they are from court transcripts, they are not the real names of these victims because I don't want to to use them if they don't want their names out there. So I'm just using the court transcript names. In the book, Season of Madness, they use the real names.

Okay. So I don't want to do that. But just in case you read that book and you're confused. Just in case you are confused, that's why I'm using these names. So that night, 25-year-old Donna W. Was walking a bit late at night to cash in some bottles at a circle K store. She was walking from her parents' home and it was around 10 p.m. She crossed over a bridge and suddenly, this is terrifying.

She just heard someone running full speed behind her. Oh, no, no, no. Yep, it was Daryl Rich. He grabbed her from behind and then threw her down an embankment. Oh, my God. Yeah. The momentum made her roll really hard down the hill and he ran down after her. What the fuck?

He grabbed her by the hair and she kept saying, you know, if you let me go, I'm not going to tell anyone, just let me go. But he told her if she spoke again that he would kill her. Then he asked her if she wanted to give him a blowjob. Ew, no. Like, get the fuck out of here. Like, asked her, would you like to give me a blowjob? Like, no, dude.

And she was like, no. Right. So he flipped and was furious because rejection. Uh-huh. So now he starts to punch her in the head and then picked up a rock and beat her over the head with it. My gosh. He left her dead at the bottom of the hill. and she was passing out and coming to and passing out over and over again,

trying for hours and hours to climb up this hill to the street. Oh, my gosh. And she said she just kept falling back down. And after 12 hours, finally, a woman walking saw her and called 911. Oh, my goodness. Okay, so she survived. She survived. So she was brought to the hospital and they noted she was black and blue, like completely black and blue, her entire face and head.

She also, her clothing was like torn. to shreds. Like he'd violently torn it open. They did a CT scan and it showed a linear occipital skull fracture. Holy. She was so badly beaten and suffered so much neurological damage as a result of this that she could only say her attacker had a beard and dark hair. That's all she could say about her.

I can't believe she could even say that. She was super affected by this afterwards. Like physically, she was constantly dizzy, had migraines, double vision. She has PTSD. Six days after this, he did it again. What the fuck? Six days after this. It was on June 19th, Robin H., who was a teenager, we're not sure of her exact age.

She went to the Anderson County Fair with her friend. Now, they left at 11 p.m. Actually, her friend stayed behind and she was leaving by herself. While she was leaving, she walked by Rich's car that was parked on the side of the road. he was watching her out of the car. She was freaked out when she saw it because she spotted him and was like, that's weird. And she listened to her instincts. So she moved over.

So she would be like in the street more and wouldn't be walking right past his car. Right. Because she was like, I don't want him to like reach out and grab me. Right. So he gets out of his car and yells, hey, come here. No. And he's walking towards her. So she screamed, no, like, and just started like running.

and he said, forget it and got back in his car and drove away. Okay. So she takes off her shoes because she's like, I'm ready to run. I'm going to run. And she runs towards the bus stop because she's officially freaked out at this point. He suddenly comes up on foot behind her and grabs her and threw her into his car. He threw her in the passenger seat, then grabbed her by the hair, forced her head between his legs,

and then drove away with her like that. A couple of minutes into the drive, he yells at her to take her clothes off. Oh, my gosh. And immediately, she was like, fuck you, but he was scary, so she complied. He then drove to a secluded dirt road and parked. He then made her lie down with his shirt over her eyes so she couldn't see him. Oh, my God. He raped her in the backseat for hours.

She was terrified. He was going to kill her, she said, the entire time. He released her after this and told her he knew where she lived and he knew her family. family and he would come back and kill them all if she fucked up and said anything. He told her he had killed four women before her, which is very interesting when we find out in the end. He kicked her out of his car and peeled away. So she just found a phone and called her sister-in-law who came where she was together.

They called police together and she was taken in for like a full examination. That poor girl. She described him as dark hair with a dark beard. But so far they did not connect these two yet. Oh, shit. June 25th. He did it again. Thank goodness.

That's only like, what, barely a week later? This is a 14-year-old named Lisa S. She had gone skating at Viking Skate Country in Redding with her boyfriend, John. Around 11 p.m., they were walking home together and a car pulled up. And this guy in it asked if they needed a ride. They said, no, thank you. And then he turned around. But then he pulled up again.

And he asked them again. Weirdly, they said yes. So John opens the passenger door to let her in like a gentleman. And Darrell Rich grabs her hair, yanks her closer to him, punches her in the head, and then peels away so the door closes and John is left in the street. Oh, my God. He ordered her to strip, and she did out of fear. Right. They parked on a secluded dark dirt road, and he raped her.

After he was done, he told her if she said anything to anyone, he would track her down and kill. her. Then he got back in his car and left her there. But then he suddenly slammed on the brakes and begins to back the car up towards her. So she ran into woods because she was like, fuck, he's going to kill me now. Like he's literally getting out of the car to kill me. And she hid while he got out of the car and searched for her. So he was probably going to kill her. So he was probably coming back to be like, I should finish this. And she hid. Luckily he gave up and left. Oh my God. Can you imagine hiding in the woods while that's A 14 year old. A 14 year old. She ended up walking into town to the police station and reported the whole thing. She was walking into town like half naked. Right. Like just raped and assaulted. Yeah. In the very early morning hours of July 4th, another one happened. Now remember, this was, this last one was June 25th. Yeah. July 4th. He's like going crazy.

Marla Y got into a fight with her boyfriend, just like an argument. And she decided to take a, a walk to like clear her head. Once she felt cooled off, she was going to walk back to his parents' home where they were. It was late and it was getting dark, so she was kind of like regretting this decision to take a walk, but she was walking along, you know, at like a jogging pace at this point. And she was jogging along the Anderson Cottonwood Canal and suddenly she saw a man walking in the opposite direction. When they passed each other and she was freaked out, she said she like didn't want to run by him, but she was like, I'm just going to run by him really fast. Well, when they pass each other, he reached out and grabbed her.

Oh, my God. I hate how he does. Like, I don't like that. He's terrifying. He hit her on the head hard and then told her if she struggled or screamed, he would kill her. So she smartly decided to say that her boyfriend was following behind her and he would be sorry. She was like, my boyfriend's behind me, like walking. He's coming up.

But he terrifyingly said, quote, you're lying because I've watched you all the way from Hilltop Drive. Oh, my God. chills. To know that you've been watched, I can't even imagine that feeling. And for him to just be like, no, no, no, I've literally been watching this whole time. So she fought hard, but he knocked her unconscious. She woke up sometime later with her shirt unbuttoned and she was being pushed by this man towards the canal. Oh my gosh. Rolled towards the canal. So she went nuts like struggling again and he ripped her shirt right off of her, pinned her down, forced her to take her pants off, telling her he was going to kill her if she didn't listen to him. Oh my God. He then put her his pants

over her face and he raped her. She asked, what are you going to do with me afterwards? And he told her to shut the fuck up and stay put. And he said, put your head down. So she did. And he just left. Wow. And she saw what car he was driving because she's a badass who looked at the last second. And she said, quote, it was a small sedan, kind of dark in color, and possibly a Datson. She ran to the apartments nearby and she called police and told them. What a badass. Imagine having like an argument right before that. Oh my God. It just like drives the point home like never leave. Yeah. Even if you think like a lot of people are like, I'm going to take a walk to cool off. Like you don't know what can happen. Right. Anything can be a Daryl Rich on that walk. You don't want that. Right. So the same day.

July 4th. The same day. The same day. Like what? 19-year-old, and this is when things get really, really, really, really bad. They've already been really, really, really bad. Now they're really, really, really, really bad. Oh, no. 19-year-old Annette Edwards was with her boyfriend, Mickey, and some friends. Now, Annette was known to be sweet and was described as having a charming and happy personality, a beautiful smile. Two days before this, she had just gotten a great job working at the Martin Luther King Jr. Center in Reading. That night, she went. went to a park to see fireworks because it was July 4th. After the fireworks, she walked to Market Street and was on her way home. I think she had actually left them to get a better look at the fireworks. Oh, okay. So she had left and was walking back. So she's on her way home.

A man pulls up. Oh, no. He has a dark beard and dark hair. And he asks if she needs a ride. So she says no. And she keeps walking. Suddenly down the way, he just jumps out in front of her. again and was like, need a ride? And she was like, no. Like I told you no. So he grabs her and

throws her and himself down an embankment together. This was two miles from her apartment. Oh, my God. Now, once down at the bottom of this embankment, he tried to rape her, but he could not because she was fighting so hard because he's the worst. And he beat her to death with a rock at the bottom of the embankment. Oh. He got so angry because he couldn't rape her that he beat her to death with a rock. That is so fucked up. The next morning, her boyfriend filed a missing person's report because when he was like,

I had no idea. Three days later, July 7th, a logging truck driver named Sheldon Heath, he called police and told them he had lost a tire. and he said he went looking for it down near the embankment, and he smelled a very foul odor. So police showed up and they found Annette Edwards dead in the grass at the bottom. She was on her back with her legs spread intentionally to shock. Oh, what a fucking asshole. Her pants were around her ankles and her shirt was up around her shoulders.

Her head was battered and bloody, and there was bloody trash can lid near the body. So they think he also beat her with a trash can lid. God. There was also bloody rocks. Her autopsy revealed that she had likely been dead for about two days. She had bruises and abrasions on her buttocks and legs. According to court records, quote, her upper jaw had suffered two fractures.

Thank God. One began at the left midline and went through her left eye socket and into the lower portion of her skull to the base of her brain. Wow. The other followed a similar pattern, but began on the right side of her face. The body had other injuries and bruises. The autopsy surgeon testified that a substantial amount of force was required to inflict the injuries on the jaw. I mean, yeah.

Yeah. The cause of death was described as basal skull fractures inflicted by blunt force. Wow. What an escalation. Her bottom jaw was literally nearly broken into. Right. All the way to the base of her brain and like and behind her eye. Through her eye socket.

That's insane. So what's crazy to me is a. Apparently at first glance, the police were like reluctant to call it foul play. Um, what? Like, they thought she just fell down there. And it's like, I don't think that caused that. I don't really think so. Um, but okay.

Why would like her pants be around her ankles? She was clearly sexually assaulted, like, get out of here. So a few days later, Daryl actually told a friend of his named Gail Croswell that he was nervous that were police, that police were starting to question him about the rapes and the murder. Uh-huh. They had not. What the fuck? Why? So again, he's like, he did it again. And he said to Gail, he needed an alibi for the nights in question because he couldn't remember all the nights where he was. And he was careful to say that he was innocent, but he said he just couldn't remember because I can't remember where I am every night and I'm scared they're going to ask me and I won't have something. And so he said, could you, Gail, could you say that I was watching fireworks with you on July 4th and say that, you know, like, that's where I was that night. And Gail was like, uh,

Yeah, no, like you weren't. So like, I'm not going to say that, but okay. He was like, if they come for me, like, I'll talk to them, but like, I'm not going to cover for you. I don't know. And at this point, they had not connected any of these rapes to him or this murder. No, they hadn't connected them together. Oh, all. At all.

Even though they were all a man with dark hair and a dark beard. That's like very strange. Which is nuts. There's also, during this time, remember, he's still with Darlene. He is not broken up with Darlene. I was literally just going to ask you that. And at this time, he and Darlene had gotten in a fight, and he had thrown her on the couch and screamed in her face out of nowhere.

I killed that girl. She told him, like, cut the shit. She was like, what are you talking about? Why would you say that? And he was like, oh, I don't know. I just said it, but I didn't do it. No, I wouldn't. And she was like, what the fuck?

And then you have to think back to when you found like an earring and like, like, hair with like scalp attached to it in his car. Yeah. So at another time, he told Darlene that the police stopped him at a marketplace around town and they questioned him about Annette's murder. He told her they were going to ask her about it too and that she needed to lie and tell them that he was with her on July 4th because Gail wasn't going to give him the alibi. And they never did this. They never stopped him and talked to him about it. He was literally not on their radar at all. I was literally just going to say he was like under their radar. Literally not on their radar.

When he finally gets caught, they were like, we literally, when they even bring him in, it's not even to accuse him of it. Wow. It's for something else. So this entire time he's been saying that the police are on his ass and questioning him, they're like, we literally didn't even realize it was him. I'm glad that he manifested it. I'm glad he did.

So it's insane. So by now he had tapped out of the Reading area because he's doing all these things in the area of Reading. And now in his own mind, they're starting to close in on them or something. So he was like, you know what? Instead of just stopping what I'm doing, not raping and murdering people, he was like, you know what, I'm just going to go somewhere else.

So he decides to hunt women about 20 miles away in Red Bluff, because that's what you do. So remember, that was July 4th, July 9th. My gosh. 178. Kelly M., who was 15 years old. She's on her bike on her way home from her cousin's home around 10 p.m. A car pulls up next to her and it's Daryl Rich. And he asks her what time it is.

When she went closer to tell him the time, he punched her in the face, grabbed her by the hair and pulled her off his bike and towards him into the car. Once in the car, he did what he always did. He made her crouch down under the passenger seat, told her if she raised her head, that he would beat her to death with a flashlight. He also told her he had a gun under his seat and a dead body in the trunk. Neither of these things were true. Fuck.

Now he then ordered her to take her clothing off. She fought back, but eventually conceded like the other ones because they all said, they all said like, fuck you dude. But they were like, what am I going to do? What are you doing that situation? Right. While driving, he forced her to perform sexual acts on him. She said he offered her a beer at one point.

And she said no. But then he said if a cop came and stopped them, he was just going to blow that cop away. So she was like, okay, this is chaotic. This is a lot of chaos. And he stopped at a few parks but kept getting scared off by people coming up. So he just dragged this poor girl naked and assaulted. And she had no idea what was going to happen. So he's just dragging her all around the place, like to different parks where she's like,

are you killing me at these places? What's going to happen? And he did this for hours, like hours. And after it was pitch black, he finally drove her up like hills and into a countryside. like into this pitch black place where he pushed her out of the car. He put a piece of fabric over her face. She didn't know what the fabric was. And he raped her.

He sodomized her and he did this for hours. Oh my gosh. She said she thought it would never end. Why do you think that he did that when he raped them, like put something over their faces? Because they had already seen him by that point. I don't know. That's the thing. So I don't know if it's like in his own mind because he doesn't do it with the ones that he

kills. Oh. So it's like, I don't know if this is just his own weird justification. Huh. Because it is weird. It's like they've already seen him. But maybe he assumes that the trauma he's going to inflict on them will make them not remember what he looked like beforehand. Okay. So if he can stop it, stop the line of sight now. But I think he's just a fucking idiot, to be quite honest. Like, I think I'm giving him a lot more credit, like intellectually than he actually should be getting. I think he's just fucking stupid. And I think he's like, and I think he also, I think he also is trying to do some kind of sensory deprivation. I think it's, it makes it fun for him because it scares them more. It's scarier. So I think he's just like, oh, cool,

I can torture them more by doing this. Like, I don't give a shit what he says. He's such a fucking piece of shit. So after he was done with this, again, for hours. And she's like a child. He was 15. A child. He then did something he hadn't done before. He wiped the semen off of everything, including her. Uh-huh. And then he threw the towel in the woods.

And then he drove her down the road, threw her out of the car, and told her that the car that he was in was stolen. Uh-huh. And then he was going to be ditching it. Okay. I'll trust that. And she was like, good story. Noted. And then that, and he was like,

don't say anything to anyone. And then he just drove off. You got it too. And again, it's like he covers her eyes during the whole thing and then she sees him again. So then it's to me, I'm like, is it an embarrassing? Is it a shame thing? That's what I was like. He doesn't want them looking at him during this whole thing.

Right. But when he's trying to be like a functioning human, he's fine with them seeing him. Or I don't know if this is like weird to say, but like, do you think that he was like trying to think of somebody else, like that he was like angry with or something? No, I think this was, I think it's, I feel like it's more of a shame thing. I feel like in the moment, because he does say later many times that he wanted to stop what he was doing, but he couldn't stop. Okay. So I wonder if somewhere in his weird, sick mind, he felt some kind of shame and he knows what he's doing is wrong. Of course. As we'll find out later, he's very sane. He knows the right, the difference between right and wrong. He knows while he's doing it that it's wrong. So I think something in his brain, is telling him like this is wrong and he feels shame but he knows he's not going to stop so he just covers their face so he can make it more of like an experience for him. That's what I feel like. So she ended up running to a nearby trailer home that she found. A woman allowed her in and let her

call the police. She said over and over to this woman, I was sure he was going to kill me. Like she just kept saying like I was sure he was going to kill me and like he was going to do it. Around 1.30 a.m. the police showed up and they. brought her to the hospital for examination. When she was examined, she was battered and bruised. She had a huge lump on her forehead and she was missing a patch of hair, which had been forcibly pulled out of her scalp. Oh my gosh.

She had lost an earring in the struggle, which is the one that Darlene later found in the car. Okay. In that clump of hair. In that hair. So she described him as possibly late 20s with dark hair and a dark beard. on July 25th, so only, let's see, a couple weeks later, Darlene left him. And he said, when she left him, he said to her, and she reported this later, he said, quote, I'm glad you won't be around when all this stuff comes up.

Well, and okay, so I'm glad because that means that she left him like pretty soon after she found the earring in the hair. Yeah, she did. She did. And I guess when she was leaving, so he said that, I'm glad you won't be around when all this Stuffs comes up. And then he said, if I had met you earlier, all of this probably wouldn't have happened. That's like such a shitty thing to say because like, that's not true. And it's like, oh, I'm sorry, is this Darlene's fault? Right. Like what? No. No. I mean, luckily she left him,

but once again, he gets angry with rejection. Uh-huh. So on August 4th, so only about a week later, Right. 1978, Patricia Ann, who was known more as Pam, more, who was only 17 years old, she would be his next victim. Pam had a tough, like, kind of crazy life growing up. She was going to Casa Grande High School in Petaluma, and at 15, she was living, like, part-time in a foster home, sometimes at home. Okay. With, like, a large kind of chaotic family. It was just a lot going on.

But, you know, her brother later said, quote, she was not a model child, but my parents weren't model parents. Right, you're right. She was beautiful. She took pride in her appearance. She won second place at the Miss Sonoma County Beauty Contest, and she was also really smart. She was hitchhiking on Cypress Avenue

when a man with dark hair and a dark beard picked her up. No. And there were witnesses later that saw that. Daryl said he would bring her where she wanted to go, but soon she realized that. that they were going in a completely different direction. She tried to say this, and he would ignore her. So she asked him what the fuck was going on,

and he told her to keep your mouth shut, and I won't kill you. Oh, my God. So he drove her to a remote place, possibly near Gaspoint Road, and he brutally raped and assaulted her. He then put her back in the car. She's alive at this point. Went further up Gaspoint Road, where there's, like, no houses, no buildings. it's just like nothingness.

And that's the other thing. He loved doing it in these scary, like, remote places. And they were literally like off-roading at this point, like going into the woods. And they ended up in a town called IGO. And in the book, Season of Madness,

they explained what, because I was like, I go. Because at first time, when I saw it, it's I-G-O. And I was like, is it I-Go? Or I-Go?

And I guess the town was named when like the founder of the town would like go off to work and his son would say, I go, I go, and they named it I go. Oh, that's cute. Isn't that weird? That's like a weird story. That was a nice palette cleanser.

Yeah, I just thought that was like, oh, this is cute. It's going to get bad now. So he brought Pam more to the I go dump, and he made her get out of the car. He made her walk across trash into the dump, and then he picked up a rock and ruthlessly beat her in the head with a large rock. Oh, my God. Even after she stopped struggling, he. He continued to beat her until he literally caved to the side of her skull in.

What the fuck, dude? He then covered her up with a little trash and left her there in the dump. That is heartbreaking. I can't even imagine. Her family knowing that. Oh, it's outrageous. And Pam had been staying at a motel for the night at the time. And her friend Daniel had got, he, like, got concerned because he hadn't heard from her in a couple of days.

So he went to the motel and he was led to her room where he found all. her stuff there. Right. But he was like, I don't know, like, sometimes she pieces out for a little while and, like, goes on a journey and then she'll come back. So, like, maybe she's just out traveling somewhere and like doing something. She's just one of those people. But that would not be the case. And August 8th, 1978, only four days later, he would kill again. Oh, my God. Yep. So that was his second murder. That was his second murder. Okay. And we are going to stop there. Oh, my goodness. For part two. Luckily, I know that we're recording part of right now. Wow, guys. Well, we'll see you for part two then, and we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird, but not this weird at all.

Don't even try. Don't even pretend to keep it this weird. Never. Never. Don't you dare. Don't. Don't. It is going to get you.