Morbid - The Murder of Nancy Evans Titterton

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

On the morning of April 10, 1936, Nancy Evans Titterton, novelist and wife of NBC Radio executive Lewis Titterton, was found sexually assaulted and strangled to death in the bathtub of her apartment i...n Beekman Place, a prominent New York City apartment building. Upon first inspection, the crime scene yielded few clues—a fingerprint in the bathroom, a length of rope used to bind her hands, and little else.Within a week, detectives were no closer to solving the case than they were on day one, until a break finally came when the rope and a single horsehair was traced to a local upholstery shop, and ultimately to an apprentice upholsterer named John Fiorenza, who, along with his boss, Theodore Kruger, discovered Nancy’s body while delivering a piece of furniture.Eventually, Fiorenza confessed to assaulting and murdering Nancy Titterton, but claimed temporary insanity. At the trial, the jury rejected Fiorenza’s defense and he was found guilty and he was executed in January 1938. Although the case of Nancy Evans Titterton may seem rather straightforward, it stands as an early example of science and law enforcement coming together to solve a case that had previously seemed destined to remain unsolved.Thank you to the Incredible Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for research and Writing support!ReferencesNew York Times. 1937. "Clemency is asked for John Fiorenza." New York Times, January 12: 3.—. 1936. "Fiorenza counsel accuses a 'fiend'." New York Times, May 21: 7.—. 1936. "Fiorenza doomed to electric chair." New York Times, June 6: 34.—. 1936. "Fiorenza insane, alienst swears." New York Times, May 26: 48.—. 1936. "Fiorenza's mother sets up an alibi." New York Times, May 23: 34.—. 1936. "Plea of insanity by Fiorenza likely." New York Times, April 23: 5.—. 1936. "Scientists study clues to slayer of Mrs. Titterton." New York Times, April 12: 1.—. 1937. "Titterton slayer is put to death." New York Times, January 22: 42.—. 1936. "Upholdwerter's aide confesses murder of Mrs. Titterton." New York Times, April 22: 1.—. 1936. "Woman writer, 34, found strangled in bathtub in home." New York Times, April 11: 1.Schechter, Harold. 2014. The Mad Sculptor: The Maniac, the Model, and the Murder that Shook the Nation. New York, NY: Little A Publishing .Times Union. 1936. "Countess tells of prowler knocking on door 8 hours before writer was strangled." Brooklyn Times Union, April 11: 1.—. 1936. "Arraigned and denied bail, he then retraces flght." Times Union (Brooklyn, New York), April 22: 1.—. 1936. "Fiorenza guilty in first degree." Times Union (Brooklyn, New York), May 28: 1.—. 1936. "Johnnie was a good boy, sobs mother of slayer." Times Union (Brooklyn, New York), April 21: 1.—. 1936. "Hunt mysterious prowler." Times Union (Brooklyn, NY), April 12: 1. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is morbid. That makes me want to go, spooky, spooky, spooky, spooky. You know what I'm saying? I do. You get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I totally get it. Spooky, spooky, spooky. There you go. Ash is a juggolette. I don't know if you know this. You can get away from me. I'm just kidding. am not, but I did see, no, I did see that true life, I'm marrying a juggalo. Remember that one? Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:00:57 like my jugglet, or it was like a, it was like strange or like my parents don't approve of my wedding. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it was. It was weddings. And one of them was a juggalo and a jugglet. It was a beautiful wedding, if you ask me. And you know what? They loved each other. I hope they're still happy. I think the dad did end up coming. I think he did. Spoiler alert, if you haven't seen that episode from 25 years ago. But they also had like, did they have the, that wasn't the vampires one, was it? No, that was Respect My Sect. Oh, that's a great one, guys. That's one of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I know. And remember the vampires? How cool they were. They were. Their names. Did they listen? Yes, their names were, no, they didn't listen, but they, I think we were going to try to get them on an episode. Oh, is that what it was?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Maybe we should still try to get them on an episode. Yeah. Daily and Logan. Yes. That was their name. Yep. I wonder how they're doing. I follow Daly on Instagram, and she seems like she's killing it.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I think I follow both of them on Instagram, but I'm just never on Instagram, so I don't know how they're doing. I think they're still beautiful, so. You know what, there you go. I bet they're still beautiful. I hope they're still, I think Daly was like into Fay stuff now. Oh, yeah, I think you're right, actually. I get it, girl. I hope they're living your best life.
Starting point is 00:02:08 That'd be cool. Yeah, that would make my day. Maybe we can try to get them on. That would be fun. But I don't know how we got to, uh, I, rest, my sect true life. Because you called me a juggolette. Okay, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Thank you. All right. Well, back to Spooky Roads. Okay. We are here for another edition of Spooky Roads. It has been a while. Yeah. I actually don't remember the last episode that we did on there.
Starting point is 00:02:30 It's because we've like ventured into a few other spooky realms. You know, the spooky lighthouses. We have the spooky castles. Spooky butts. We're going all over Spookies. And what's fun is spooky stuff always involves ghosts and ghosts always always involves some kind of crazy story of how they became ghosts. Accurate.
Starting point is 00:02:49 So it kind of involves everything. It does, in my opinion. So we were looking through some of the suggestions because please still give us spooky roads that you would like us to cover, just like we want you to give us like the lighthouses you want us to cover. The castles.
Starting point is 00:03:04 The castles. Give us lakes. The lakes. Give us forests. Whatever spooky thing you want us to hit will add it into the little arsenal here. Yeah, I want to do mothman soon. Oh, yeah. We'll hit some cryptids for sure because those are fun.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Suggest those. Suggest some cryptids. Whatever you guys want. That's what we want to do. So we got a few suggestions. We kind of like picked through them. And one that really intrigued me was Rogue's Hollow in Ohio. Anything that ends in Hollow is usually spooky. It is. And this was suggested by Michael. So I want to say thanks to Michael. Michael, that's a great name. I think he was the only one that suggested.
Starting point is 00:03:44 too, which I'm shocked by, because when I looked through it, I was like, whoa. Wow. Solo Michael is in the know. He does. Only Michael knows about this road. That's what I think. Now, Rogue's Hollow is in Ohio, and it's found a mile south of Doyle's town. It's actually right off of an old abandoned coal mining town and is actually a hauler.
Starting point is 00:04:07 A hauler? Do you remember Buckwild? Do I remember Buckwild? They lived in a hauler? Yes. Dandy candy. RIP. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Ash used to love that show. I still do. Like I would watch that if it was available somewhere. And this is what I love about you. So it's literally a geographical depression in the earth. Now it's known as Rokes Hollow Historic Park and Chippewa Nature Preserve. Okay. Now that's what it's known as.
Starting point is 00:04:37 It has been called the Sleepy Hollow of Ohio. In its heyday, it was a hopping place. to be. This road was right through an old coal mining town or like a village of some sort, you know, and a hauler. Who doesn't love a hauler? Well, hauler. So in the 1860s, 1870s, it turned into kind of a place, like a dark place, I would say. It was like this hop and coal mining town and then it turned into this scary kind of outlaw town where outlaws, gangsters, scary people lived and hung out. And she always laughs when I say gangsters, but that's how you say like, gangsters. I know. It's just funny. Like I'm not going to call like, you know, gangsters from the,
Starting point is 00:05:26 you know, 1800s like gangsters. That's not, but I want you to. I'm not going to though. It's gangsters. I'm going to laugh every time. Every time. But either way, outlaws, gangsters, Gary, Gary people, Gary's hung out there. You know how scary Gary's are. You're scary, Gary. It's fate, Kate. Let's go on a date, Kate. Name that movie, everybody. But yeah, so lots of Gary's were there.
Starting point is 00:05:52 They lived, they hung out there. People shot each other on the regular there. Like, there were shootouts all up in there. You just walked into that. Like, it was nothing. You were like, yeah, and then people shot each other all the time. I'm like, why? They had shootouts constantly.
Starting point is 00:06:05 You explained. You did. Yeah. You weren't safe to walk down the streets alone. There were robberies, burglaries. It was like crazy there. It was a wild time in a wild hauler. The wild wildest hauler.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Not west. The wild wild holler. Yeah. No, authorities literally wouldn't enter this place. Oh shit. Like police were like, no thank you. Godspeed everybody. We're going to stay out of here.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It got its name because of the kinds of people who chilled around there, rogues. It's a lawless place. So in fact, it was, it's funny that you say that. It was determined to be the most lawless place in America. Whoa. At one point. That was weird. That's really funny. And I actually watched this really fun and spooky video about this on a YouTuber named Rick's Nerd Life. And it was really good. I feel like I've watched Rick's videos before. He was good. I was really about it. I was like, get it, Rick.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah. He told me some stuff that I was like, wow, I didn't read that. So thank you, Rick. I love you, Rick. So go check out Rick's nerd life. Hopefully he's still doing videos. He did great with this one. So here's a couple of the ghosts. Here's a couple of the legends that are. associated with this. Again, this was a coal mining town. There were mills in here and all that good stuff. There was one that was called the Chidester Mill. And there's the Chidester Mill, ghost or ghosts, I should say. The old Chidester Mill actually burned down a while ago, but no one knows how. It was like very mysterious. Because lawless. Because lawlessness. And either way, there was a tale of a mill worker who fell into the giant churning mill wheel. That's
Starting point is 00:07:42 in the water there. Ooh. You know those big wheels you see outside of a mill? I do. He was crushed under the wheel. Oh gosh. And people claimed his ghosts guarded the mill and tried to like, was like still doing his work like over and over again.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I'm probably trying to make sure nobody else fell in them. Probably. And a lot of people believe it was him. It was possibly him who started the fire that burned down the mill because they didn't want anyone else like falling to the similar fate. There was also another legend that says one. of the former owners of the mill hanged himself from the rafters in the mill. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:08:17 They also believe he might have been the one to start the fire like in the afterlife because he didn't want the mill going to an outsider who was going to attempt to purchase it. Okay. Kind of makes sense if he's the original owner. I could see. He's like, hell no. Those things happening. Apparently some younger boys broke into the mill in the middle of the night in the
Starting point is 00:08:36 1800s. And it was after the water wheel accident killed a worker. and they came running out screaming to their parents, even admitting that they had broken in at night. They were not even trying to hide it at that point. And they claimed that when they broke in, they saw the face of a tortured man up in the second floor of the mill. It scared the shit out of them.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I bet they never went back there and broke the rules. No. Well, after it burned down, they did, the Chippewa Rokes Hollow Historical Society made a replica of the mill. So it's there. It's almost like a museum kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:09:09 It has all these like things. about it. It is spooky. I was like, should we go? I want to go because it kind of looks, it reminds me of like the witch house in Salem. Like it's black and very spooky. Yeah. Of course, they also have a crybaby bridge here. Oh, I don't love that.
Starting point is 00:09:28 There's a lot of cry baby bridges, like everywhere. There are. And especially Ohio apparently has a lot of them. Oh, really? Which is weird. I'm like, what makes you guys so special that you get tons of crybaby bridges? You feel like that makes them special? That's a little scary.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So this crybaby bridge, the legend is, now the crybaby bridge is right in Rogues Hollow. Like is this little thing over a creek. Okay. I'm also giving you a lot of credit because crybaby bridge is really hard to say. Cry baby bridge. Say that five times fast. Ready? Cry baby bridge.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Cry baby bridge. Cry baby bridge. Cry baby bridge. Cry baby bridge. It's hard. I don't know if we did it perfectly. It's a little tough. So the legend says that a woman threw her newborn over the bridge near what is today the
Starting point is 00:10:08 visitor's center. Oh, come on and visit us, where this woman yeated her child over yonder. But apparently you can still hear a newborn crying. Usually people say it's like in the middle of the night at like midnight or something. You can also still hear the mother weeping and she can be seen leaning over the side of the railing, crying and reaching for her baby. That's so sad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And most of those legends are pretty similar that like they just toss a baby into the water. And then they like weep about it. And then they cry about it. But there's another tale for this bridge that says, woman crashed in her car off this bridge and her child drowned in the river below. That's heinous. Now it says she supposedly took her life nearby as a result of the guilt. Now you can find her wandering the bridge, weeping for her child.
Starting point is 00:10:54 That's sad. I know it's really sad. They also have, in this sleepy hollow, they have a headless horse. They have to. Not a headless horseman. A headless horse. You know I was waiting for you to get to the men part, but. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:09 A headless horse. A headless horse. I don't want any part of that. So at the corner of, I think it's frays and Clinton Rhodes, there was a big oak tree at one point. It's not there anymore. This tree had a low-hanging branch that riders used to have to duck under because it wasn't a thin branch. It was a doozy of a branch. If you hit this thing, you were going to be taken out.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Now, one night, a horse was running through there wildly. He had apparently escaped from his owner. He was like on the move. but the horse ran full speed into that thick branch and was decapitated by the branch. Baby. Now, Cal Holden, who was a part of the Rokes Hollow Historical Society, said people will still see a horse running around the area, but it's missing its head. That's like, I don't, I hate that. I just love that this, like, Ohio's Sleepy Hollow, it's such like a, it almost feels like it's like the off-brand Sleepy Hollow.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It does. It's like it's rogues hollow and also like we don't have a headless horsemen, but we have a headless horse. It's like good value. It is like I kind of love it. Like I kind of love that for you. I know. You've got something at least.
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Starting point is 00:14:26 when you go to everlane.com slash morbid and sign up. Everlane, ethically made, sustainably sourced. Now, the oak tree was also the site for a story about a farmer heading down the road in his cart. He passed by the tree and immediately he was struck. He wasn't struck by anything, but he was struck like emotionally. Oh.
Starting point is 00:14:52 He was struck emotionally when he saw two glowing red eyes up in the branches of the tree staring down at him. That is something that would strike you emotionally. It would strike you, right? Yes. Ooh, I'm struck. I wouldn't feel emotional about it, though. I would feel stressed out about it.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I mean, that's an emotion, isn't it? stressed. Yeah, emotional to me though is like, oh, she got emotional like she cried. Oh, okay. I see that. I'd be struck with fear. I'd be struck with like curiosity. I'd be like, what's that? Yeah. Very fitting for the both of us. This thing was staring at him very menacingly. Yeah, bye. And he found himself unable, even. Unable and unable and unable. I can't talk, guys. It's the end of the week. I don't know what's happening. You can't talk, but this is a podcast. Are you kidding me? I should quit. never. I was like, oh my God, I can't do this alone. Never, even when I can't talk. But no, it was very menacing, but he found himself unable to tear his eyes from it. He was like, what is this thing? It was drawing him in. And he soon saw that this was either a demon, what they referred to as an imp. A diamond. Or some kind of devil. Just sitting on the branch looking down at him crouching. Wouldn't some kind of devil also just be a demon? Some kind of devil? Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Damon. I made it up.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Now, later... Real song, fake song? What about it? Totally fake. You made that up. It's real little. Later, more residents around the area said that they saw this little diamond devil creature sitting up on the branches of the old oak tree, or they would get a two-for-one special, and they would see that headless horse, and they would see this little imp sitting on top of the
Starting point is 00:16:29 headless horse just staring at them. Again, a good value. That is a great value. Yeah. Two-for-one. If you're going to see one, you better see both. Bring your coupon. Why not? Now this oak tree actually either fell down or it was cut down. There's reports of both. Not sure if you were there, let me know. Did you cut it down or did it fall down? Call me. But there were documented reports of vehicles stalling under this tree when it was still up, specifically under this tree. Several of them. Like enough to make it weird. Give me urgent, ergent. I almost never. I almost just said urgent lebaned. Yeah. Gives me urban legend. It definitely does.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And like the Bridgewater Triangle, which we are currently sitting in the middle of right now, there are also reports of weirdly, like weirdly gigantic animals in this area. I hate it. In the hollow and on the roads surrounding the hollow. People have reported seeing legit pythons in the area. Like big, huge, huge snakes that couldn't possibly live there in Ohio otherwise. They're not Ohio native to Ohio. I'm shaking my head and wagging my finger.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Now, according to Weird Ohio, a reader rode in and said that they spent a lot of time on that road outside the hollow. And one night, they saw what they referred to as the gray lady ghost. Always, of course. Any good haunt has one. I'm telling you. She was in an old-timey frontier dress and ran down the road at an unnatural speed with all her dress flowing behind her and it was gray. Pretty. Like the America's Next Top Model episode.
Starting point is 00:18:02 We're always going, all roads lead back to that runway. Really? They do. They do. That runway where Carried, who was it? Carrie Dee. Carrie D. And Melrose.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And Miss J. Alexander. There you go. We're all in wedding dresses and they had to run down there. Like they were ghostly brides and shriek and act all. Yeah. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Well, that great lady is working her own runway, apparently, because people see her a lot. And she's always running.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And she's always stressed. She's got somewhere to be. The world is your runway. There you go. And they'll also hear... You got it. Nailed it. They also will hear a ghostly train.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Choo-choo. Yep, they hear it and it's like, whoop, whoop. And they're like, ah. Yeah, it's ghostly. It's a ghostly train. And apparently there's no train working in the area, so that's weird. Spooky. Now lastly, I did see a ton of mentions, just mentions, in several different reports and websites.
Starting point is 00:19:02 and videos even, that say there's a graveyard near the road where apparently the ground shakes near midnight sometimes, fault line. Especially around Halloween. And I would love to hear more about this, but I could not hear one specific detail about it. It was literally like, and then there's a graveyard where the ground shakes. And you're like, do you want to tell me more about it though? Like, do you want to, were you there? Like, no one's told me they were there.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Have you been there? That's like my least favorite part of researching haunted things is that like you will always find just one thing. just one thing that you cannot find any further information about. But it's so interesting. It's interesting. So I have to say it. But I do have to tell you that there's no basis. Well, and it's like it's a thing that you will find in like a hundred different sources,
Starting point is 00:19:47 but only just that it exists. Not any further details about it. That's that. Drives me vanay-nays. So that, my friends, is rogues hollow and the road that surrounds it in Ohio. Fun. You can go take a peek. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:02 But you can't go down the road in your car. It's closed. You can walk, though. Do that then. You can go walk and you can go look at the chidester mill replica. Wear your sneakers in case you have to run out though. Yeah. And don't go near the wheel.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Oh, yeah. No, no. I was like, which wheel? And then I was like that wheel. It's a spooky hooky place. Sounds like it. You know? Well, for my first spooky road, I decided to start it with a listener tail to really get you in the mid.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Let's go. All right. So we're going to be talking about. Gold Camp Road, which is in Colorado. Oh, we're not in California. No. I thought we were going there with our accents. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Brah. I mean, stonery. There you go. Yeah, that works. Whatever. You know that. This one, like I said, starts off with a listener tale, and it's from Monica. It says, hey Elena and Ash.
Starting point is 00:20:51 My name is Monica. All the names I used are made up, so you can use all of them, mine included. Okay, Monica. I love when people do that. You're the best. The best. Let me start by saying, I know we all start. these stories this way, but who am I to break tradition? You two are badass bitches and we wouldn't
Starting point is 00:21:06 have you any other way. Any negative reviews are shrouded and I'm jealous. Wait, no, no, no, are shrouded? I'm jealous. Anyways, I'm shrouded. Oh, I get it. Yeah, yep, that was good. Thank you for that. I love you, Monica. Anyways, I guess we should cut to the chase. Am I right? Of course. You're always right. That's like the fourth time that you and I have done that today and I'd like you to get the fuck out of my brain, okay? leave me alone. You also don't want to spend too much time in my brain. Get out of there, seriously. It's fun. No, I don't know. So let me preface this by saying, and I can't stress this enough, I was 16. Oh. Oh. Don't judge my lack of judgment, because I promise I still do have,
Starting point is 00:21:50 I still do that enough after all these years. It was a Friday night. My mom was an assbag and non-existent in my life. And my father had me when he was old. So he was probably hiding in a closet for my raging hormones, hoping that I'd be anywhere other than fucking with him. As long as I didn't get pregnant, I was good. Standards were really high, y'all. I don't know why I said y'all. I'm from Colorado Springs. But anyway, I lied to my dad.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I don't know why I said that. Your emails are so funny. I love them. I feel like I can also always, like, read them how they wrote them. Yes, always. Because it's how my brain works, too. So they said, I lied to my dad and told him I was staying the night at my best friend's house.
Starting point is 00:22:27 My best friend, let's call her, uh, Parker. Anyway, Parker said she was staying the night at my house. That's what we did in the early 2000s and it was so, so, so dumb because there was a lack of technology. But why did we do this? Because we wanted to drink and go hang out with this random fucking people in the mountains. There's this road in our city called Gold Camp Road. I know that, Monica. I know it. When I was growing up, all the edgy teens and skeeves would go there to drink and whatever other fuckery they could imagine. So, what was that? With our water bottle of a little of every alcohol my father had, we were off.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Oh, man. This is the most relatable story. Yeah, she's like right there with you. Yeah, that was like my life. That shit was divine, don't judge. It was, I won't. We drive to said location, park, and start drinking. It's about 11 and dark as fuck outside.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Feeling pretty badass while flirting with some random ass dudes. Imagine Janko jeans, chains, and baggy shirts. that could fit a 300-pound linebacker, but on a skinny 110-pound string bean type of early 90s guy. Wow. You painted a picture. Wow, you painted a picture that I am familiar with. Yeah, so feeling badass flirting with Janko jeans, all of the above. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Then we hear it. A scream that can only be described as some sort of banshee getting strangled. Oh. I don't know, but all I said was, I'm out. Fuck that. The fuck is my 100-pound ass going to do. Nothing. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:23:57 All the while, hoping that Janko wearing gym. will man the fuck up and go see what's up. Janko wearing Jimmy. Janko Jimmy everybody. Janko Jippy enters the chat. I just said Jippy. It's fine. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:24:10 No, he sure didn't. So my friend and I, we decide to use our big dick energy because obviously they weren't. So we go see what's up. We walk around to bend because it was really just a road with pull-offs. And about a minute up we see it. You guys, when I say, I don't know what the fuck we saw, I really don't know what the fuck we saw. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Up ahead was a red corolla looking car with white sheets around the whole front and back seat. Seriously, imagine sheets covering everything but the driver's seat inside the car. What kind of dexter bullshit was this? Yeah. What's outside the car that made us stop? Oh, excuse me. What outside the car made us stop, you might ask? Some angry looking fucking crazy dude staring at us.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Oh. When he saw us, he started yelling at us to fuck off. Oh, sure. you got it. I will fuck right off, sir. But by that time, Janko Jimmy was behind us, and he decided he was tired of us having the only big dick energy, and he asked what was going on. Yeah, cool, cool, cool. I see him answering calmly. Crazy Carl, though, pulls out a knife and yells at Janko Jimmy and the rest of us to fuck off again, except now he's running at us. Oh. So yeah, we read the room. We fuck off. Good for you again. Now as we get back to our cars deciding what to do,
Starting point is 00:25:29 because none of us had our phones, that red corolla drives by with crazy Carl in the driver's seat. He drives super slowly. And bitch, when I say my ass fell off, I mean it. It's no longer with you. A woman moves the sheet, screams help, bangs on the window, and gets pulled back. And we all see as crazy Carl drives away that her hand is still on the window. What the actual fuck. I did not see that coming. No. Whoa. Yeah. My big dick energy turned into micro penis guilt and I just
Starting point is 00:26:10 stood there. Parker and I just cried. Janko Jimmy and his string bean ass and his posse, they just stood there. But then my senses kicked in after the cloud lifted and I looked at the license plate. I ran to my car and wrote down the license plate number. Wow. Janko Jimmy promised us that they were going to head to the police station since they were 18. I gave him my private room number. Yeah, I was one cool trash bag. Wow. And said that if we have to, we can out ourselves to the police if they want to talk to us. Parker and I spent the rest of our night in a Burger King parking lot because we couldn't go home. That happened to me before. I once got stranded in a Burger King parking lot with my friend Marissa. Shout out Marissa. One of the Marissa's, if it's the one that you're not thinking of, it's not you.
Starting point is 00:26:55 but yeah literally stranded in a Burger King parking lot wow i feel like weirdly relatable to monica here that's wild crazy so i lost my place because i was talking about myself that's okay we're in a Burger King parking lot burger king parking lot couldn't go home we can't say shit i never got a call i checked the news stations for years you guys and i never saw anything that synced up the kicker that road is notoriously haunted and a known dumping body or excuse me dumping ground for bodies Stop. Oh, and just for shits and giggles, I'll add, my father was a prison guard who had been a cop before that for a very long time. Now get this shit. Two weeks later, Janko Jimmy calls me and tells me a cop followed up with him and told me that he visited the person with the license plate that I gave him, and the guy told him that it was some kind of kink that him and this girl do. She has sex with a random guy while doing a specific fantasy every once in a while. No, no, no, no, no. A, this bitch consented to none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Don't involve minors in your reindeer games. No. And B, no, I did not believe that. I don't know if I believe that. I still don't know. I feel oddly guilty and I always wonder if my instinct was correct. Anyway, sorry this was so long. Cut what you like.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Wow. Or keep it. Keep it weird. But not so weird that you and your friend decided to drink in the mountains with some random-ass dudes and get involved in somebody's king shenetigans. Fucking crazy Carl. Holy shit. That would also just be like such a clean excuse for that. Well, a dirty excuse, but. Dirty. But no, I, it's like, okay, then can I talk to the girl so that she can also tell me that? Exactly. Because, like, I'm not just taking your word for that crazy Carl. And him telling them to, like, fuck off and had a knife and was, like, chasing them with it. I'm like, that doesn't seem like kinky behavior. That seems like somebody trying to hide a crime. That seems aggressive. Personally. So with that. So give me that road, because that was a great listener.
Starting point is 00:28:53 It was a great listener tale. So I couldn't find anything about being a dumping ground for bodies. I'll tell you that right off the bat. But I did find some wild shit. So old gold camp road is right by Colorado Springs. And it was constructed way back during the 18th century while the gold rush was going down. Makes sense. Now originally the road was covered with train tracks so that, you know, all the gold rushers could get up there and strike for their gold and shit. And rush for gold. And rush to find the gold. Yeah. Thinking about the gold rush is like, Remember learning about that in school and just being like, what? And literally just being like, what?
Starting point is 00:29:29 Like the whole time I was just like, okay. Just did a constant state of, huh, what? I'm like, can you teach me how to do my taxes or like write a check? Balance a checkbook place. But instead I just learned about the gold rush. Anyway, it's believed that some of the workers who were put in charge of digging out the tunnels actually died while doing so. And were basically just buried alive in the process. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah. So obviously immediately, that sets us up for a haunt. Yeah, it does make sense. But around 1920s, the railway was transformed into just a regular road where traffic could make its way through. And that pretty much marks the beginning of people claiming this place to be haunted. Now, there's a bunch of tunnels up there. And over the years, a ton of them have collapsed.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But one of them, tunnel number three, has been sealed off. Oh, what's up with tunnel number three? Nobody's completely sure, but a lot of people claim the reason that it's sealed off is because of a tragic accident. I don't know what accent just overtook my body. You know, it's one of those old souls. Accident. Accident. I said like e-accident.
Starting point is 00:30:36 E-accident. So apparently in 1988, this tunnel collapsed because a school bus crashed into the side of it. Now, all kinds of claims have been made about the reason for the crash, but the two most popular theories are one, the driver was suicidal and intentionally caused the bus to crash. Oh my goodness. Or number two, the crash truly was an accident and just a result of the windy, unpaved roads. Because this is a dirt road, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Now, either one of those stories could be true. And either way, the story would still go on the same way. As the bus crashed into one of the side walls of the tunnel, the tunnel collapsed onto the bus, like all these rocks were falling down and, like, crushing the bus. And all the kids inside. And the driver. This is terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Now the only problem is there's literally not a single record of this accident that supposedly happened in 1988 where like records did exist. They did. But people still love to talk about it. I like it. And people who are brave enough to visit the area, so like they literally will peer into the tunnel and like see what they can make out. And a lot of people see the apparition of men in cloaks walking around.
Starting point is 00:31:48 What? And nobody knows why. And no one has just been like, hey, what's you guys doing in there? Why are you wearing cloaks? You got some unit ritual going on? Is it just kind of cold in there? Sick cloak, bro. Bye.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah, I don't know. Like, just see. Find out. See. Maybe they're willing to let you in on the whole thing. Maybe they're just like, hey, this is the meeting of our annual, like, of the World Club or like something fun like that.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Something innocuous. I don't know. I think it's knockuous. It's very nocuous. I don't think it's e. Nacuous. I think it's knockuous. I agree.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Now, other people who are, you know, brave enough to visit, they also say that they'll hear either screaming children in the area or giggling children. Both of which pretty terrible. I don't want either of those things when kids aren't supposed to be around. No, no, no. people also claim that if they're around tunnel number three that they feel tiny hands like putting their hands on their hands if that made sense and then hands on hands in tiny hands tiny hands always creepy or belonging to children and they'll also fear their clothes being tugged at oh my god I know
Starting point is 00:33:09 that's such a little kid thing whenever I hear you're like clothes being tugged at by like ghost kids I'm like that's such a little kid thing I know Oh, just tugging on your clothes. That makes me so sad. And also, people who have driven up there will say that as they drive through the tunnels that aren't sealed off, if there's like any dust or like shit on their car, they'll see the imprint of handprint. Little baby hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Oh. Now, the haunting does not end with tunnel number three. No. Because over the years, people think actually that tunnel number two is the most haunted. I knew it. How did you know? I just knew it. I knew about it.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I knew about it. I am. I told you to vacate. I was like, you're telling me about. number three, but I feel like number two is a real star here. You're not wrong. It's the most haunted. And local legend says that if you park inside of the tunnel and then kick your car into neutral, don't like kick it, but like shift it into neutral. Just like roundhouse kick your car into neutral. Hay ya! There you go. No, don't do that. Miss Piggy style. Miss Piggy style.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I love Miss Piggy. No, she's not here. No. She's not here. She's not here. In case you were one trick. She's like, oh, uh, no. No, but if you get your car in a neutral while you're parked in tunnel number two, your car will start feeling like it's being pushed up the hill. That's nice. And people think that the guy responsible for pushing your car up the hill is somebody who died a long time ago in a car accident.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And that's why he's so quick to help any cars passing through. He thinks that they're having some kind of car trouble and he just wants to help you out of it. Just a good Samaritan. So don't waste his time if you're not actually having car trouble. No, he's like AAA. He doesn't have time for that. No, AAA always has time for that. They're always so late.
Starting point is 00:34:56 They don't have time for anything. Oh, really? You call AAA, you're going to wait forever. I mean, like, good for, I love AAA. I'm a AAA. I was going to say, I'm a AAA member. I am too. I have lost gas on the highway two times.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I've lost gas. Yeah, it's a better way to say that I'm stupid and I didn't fill my tank before driving to work. I have lost gas on the highway. An old co-worker of mine pointed out to me that I did not lose it. It simply wasn't there. It just wasn't there to begin with. Correct.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Can't lose what you didn't have. But AAA showed up within like 20 minutes. There you go. I mean, they're busy though. Yeah, they do. He's AAA. He's busy. Yeah, he is busy.
Starting point is 00:35:29 He's got a lot of calls. Ring ring. But here's the thing, though. I believe this one because Gold Camp Road has been the site of like a ton of accidents over the years because it's super twisty, windy, and unpaved. But there's rumors that 11 calls. cars that have like gotten into accidents there are abandoned below the road now. Oh. Yeah. And like actual authorities have come out and said that. That's so creepy. I want to go see them. Because I feel like that
Starting point is 00:35:58 would be like in wrong turn or like yeah or like the hitcher or something where you just see a bunch of like that's so scary to me. That is one of the scariest. Just like a big, that big field of abandoned cars. I hate it. Woof. At that point in the movie I'm like, I'm like, I'm done. done. I'm done. Bye. Bye. Wow. Spooky. That's really spooky. I know, right? No thank you. I want to go there, but like, no thank you. You want to, but no thank you. Yeah. Just like, no thank you. That's spooky, but I definitely want to go. Yes, please. There's two parts of me that are really conflicting right now. What are you, a Gemini? No, I'm not. I'm Capricorn. Oh, you are? Case nobody knew that. Capricorn and the other girl. Well, you know, Capricorn and the other girl. One of my favorites.
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Starting point is 00:38:46 Okay. We have another crybaby bridge. Oh. They're everywhere. Now, the haunted part of this road is between Shea and Holland roads, apparently. And this road was dirt, like unpaved until recently. And also was a cowpath in the 1800s. No. Thank you. You're welcome. There were very few houses of any sort or any kind of civilization around here. until very recently. There are also two small waterways or like little creeks beneath it.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So the legend says that a woman haunts the road looking for her lost child. Apparently she was killed one blistery winter's night looking for her son. Legend has it that she was one of the only residents near this road. And one night her young child went missing from his bed. So he had been abducted. Yeah. He was taken from his bed. She was lying, wasn't she?
Starting point is 00:39:41 She panicked. And she ran out into the night, into the winter night, into like the blistery winter air of Michigan. Cold. Looking for her child. Because again, he had been abducted. And she was only wearing her nightgown. So she's frantically searching for her child. And she was either struck on the road or she was killed possibly by the person who had abducted her child.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Oh, man. Either way, who's to say? She was found days later frozen in the snow. And now she's still searching for her child. Because she never found him. She never found him. So she's always wearing a light blue nightgown that's like very tattered. And apparently has the initials.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I've seen this in a few places. I see possibly named Isabella I've seen in some sources. Okay. And that's also I found this information on Michigan's other side.com. And also on like a few other places. saying. And she's wailing or screaming, where's my baby? Oh. Now, another legend says that a woman had a baby with a man who left her and she abandoned that baby by the bridge. But then she felt guilty almost immediately afterwards. She went back to get him and he was gone. And that's why you don't
Starting point is 00:40:59 leave your baby by a bridge. That's why you don't do it. So after she died later, she haunts the bridge searching for her baby because of the guilt. You shouldn't have left him in the first place. So aside from seeing the woman or women, people also hear. your babies crying and look to find them but can never find a source. They also say if you honk your horn three times while on the bridge, that's when a baby will start crying. Like you make it happen. So don't make that happen. Which I would never want to do. I don't like hearing a baby cry. No, you're a mom. Of course not. And if you don't hear a baby cry after you honk three times, you might get the other choice that happened. It's three honk, honk, honk, you either get a crying
Starting point is 00:41:36 crying baby off in the distance. What's the hot door number two? Well, behind door number two is the mother will appear and she will slam her bloody hands on your car and chase your car. Whoa. Like bloody Mary kind of style. I'm a little tempted to do that. Yeah. Also, car trouble is reported a lot on this bridge. People will stall and won't be able to start their car and then this mom comes out of nowhere and slams their hands on your car and we'll like try to get in. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. You're saying try to get in sent a wave of fucking chills tingling down my damn spine. And people have reported that like they stall, they hear things and they feel things and then they finally start again and they find
Starting point is 00:42:13 like fingerprints and shit on their car like really scary shit yeah really I thought you were going to say really scary fingerprints really fucking terrifying fingerprints like over there gnarly orbs are also a huge part of this road pretty people see mainly
Starting point is 00:42:29 green orbs that follow them or will hover in the woods off the side of the road I have orbs in my next one too we love some orbs I don't know how I feel about it like they're fine they're there they're green they're fun. You're not going to love my words. But if you go to morrowroad.com or morrowrow it is, it's M-O-R-R-O-W. So, Murrow. M-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-O-com, you can explore a film. You can explore a film
Starting point is 00:42:56 film project in the works. Oh, shit. About the road and the legends, and it looks super creepy and super fun. It's going to be like a documentary. I think it's going to be like an actual film. Like, I think they're going to do like a scary movie about it. But it's like independent, like very like grassroots kind of campaigning kind of thing. And they're trying to like get some financial backing and all that. So like they've been updating like as early as like May 2022. Oh shit. I'll donate to that.
Starting point is 00:43:24 So it's like I'm like I want to see this. Let's go. But it's moreau road.com. I'll link it in the show notes so you guys can go see it. And maybe if you, I think they're also looking for like actors and stuff and people to work on the film. You said it's in Michigan? It is in Michigan.
Starting point is 00:43:38 A little too far. Now also for my hon. for my haunted heads out there, there is a haunted trail attraction that is called the Moreau Road Haunted Trail. Let's go. It's a 75-minute walk through the area and they tell you the legends, people scare you. And it's like during Halloween time, it's like a haunted attraction. It's apparently awesome.
Starting point is 00:44:00 The reviews are like out of this planet. And one actually said that the trail scared the contacts out of their eyes. Oh, see, that would not be good for me because then I would be walking down. that shit blind as a bad baby. I just pictured somebody just be like pop and they just come out of the it's funny. They might have been crying. Maybe. I've cried my contacts out before. They said I, this trail literally scared the contacts out of my eyes and I was like, that's, that sells me on a haunted house right there. I need to know more about it. Now, I'm going to give you guys a couple of listener tales about this place. Oh, you just had to one up me like that.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Just had to one up. All right. I see you. You were in my brain and you said I'll one up her. You're always one-upping me. Always and forever. That's fine. Just kidding. This one's from Caitlin. Hi. She says,
Starting point is 00:44:47 Queen Weirdos, I just want to start out like everyone else and gush over how much I love the podcast. I listen every day at work. I work outside on the maintenance crew at a golf course, so I always spook myself out while listening to an extra creepy story. Oh, that sounds fun. Fresh air is for dead people, right? Anywho, I want to suggest a spooky, spooky road in my hometown of Algonac, Michigan. Morrow Road, also known as a.
Starting point is 00:45:09 is Cry Baby Bridge. Give it a goog and you'll find tons of articles on it. As dumb teenagers normally do, my group of friends always went out to the bridge to see if we could hear the cries of the baby or see the woman searching for her son. As legend has it, a woman died on the bridge searching for her son. If you drove your car onto the bridge, honk the horn three times, you'd see the woman or hear the cries. I never saw or heard anything, but I did have car problems driving over the bridge. My car would start sputtering almost like it wanted to stall. Then be completely fine as I reached the end of the road. Like, what the hell? No, thank you. The bridge has since been removed, and it's very residential now. But back in my father's youth, it was full of sand dunes.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Great spot for teens to go party, right? Nope. To this day, my father will not speak about things he is seen or heard on that road. He avoids even driving past the road now if we go visit family. It's crazy. I apologize for my ramblings and misspelled words in my email. You did great. Don't worry about it. No. I currently have my loin fruit sleeping in my arms. Oh my God, it took me a minute. That's fucking great. So I'm rushing to get this sent to you before the little monster wakes up. I love you, ladies, and hope to hear you cover the Crybaby Bridge.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yes, you can use my name, and I'm looking forward to hearing you pronounce the name of my hometown. Algonac. Like Algonac. Like Algonac. I did it. So that was Caitlin's. That was crazy. And then this one is from...
Starting point is 00:46:37 I was like, who is it from? I figured it out. It's from Joy. Yay. All right, it says, hello. First off, I want to say, I love the podcast. I'm not one for listening to podcasts, but yours just has a special place in this weird old heart. So thanks.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Oh, wow. Love you. Thank you, Joy. Anywho, onto the creepy haunted road. This road is called Merow Road, located in Columbus, Michigan, right outside of St. Clair. One night, around like two or three in the morning, a group of friends and I went out to try and see if any of the legends of the road are true. So a group of friends and I went out to this road. My friend Kate and I are very in tune, I guess you could say, with the spirit realm. We've been able to sense spirits and just get vibes
Starting point is 00:47:17 off of certain things. It's hard to explain, but we just know when something's there and when to also get the hell out of dodge what need be. As we're driving down the road, Kate and I both get a piercing pain right above our right eyebrow. And both of us kind of complained about it at the same time, which sent Katie's boyfriend and brother, the other two people with us, into a fit of you guys are just fucking with us. That didn't happen. But it did. And it hurt. L.O.L. When I heard she got hit in the head too, I reached around her and pressed onto the same spot I was hit, and she agreed it was the same spot. That was the first of many things to happen that night. After that, we continue driving down the road to try and find the bridge, but we quickly become overwhelmed with the smell of rotten
Starting point is 00:48:01 eggs. And if you don't know, that's exactly what sulfur smells like. And boom, sulfur equal demons. We weren't okay. Eventually, we get to the end of the road and nothing really happened except these two occurrences. But it wasn't enough for me. So I made, I made them turn around so I couldn't get out. I could get out and walk the road. You're brave. Yeah, for real. Kate and her boyfriend didn't think it was a good idea, but I didn't care, L.O.L. And her brother, agreed to get out and walk with me. That's when shit hit the fan. I love that. You guys were like, demons? Yeah, let me go right here. And then I love it. She's like, that's when shit hit the fan. And then she did like crying, laughing emoji. I love it. The second I get out of the car, I had a sinking
Starting point is 00:48:45 in my gut and felt like I wasn't supposed to be there. You'd think that would have been my first sign, but no, I'm dumb. So I kept going. Kate had the windows rolled down and the music turned off. And her and Josh, her boyfriend, stayed in the car. R.C., her brother, was on the right side of the road. and I was on the left. Within a minute of me walking, I suddenly felt like there was someone walking behind me. I turned around and no one was there. Thinking it was R.C., I turned to him,
Starting point is 00:49:11 but he was still on the other side of the road, on the other side of the car. So there was no way it was him. Not even 30 seconds after I heard a baby crying. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Which sent pure fear through me. Only due to the fact that we were surrounded by woods and each house in the road sat far back into the woods.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I asked Kate if she had me, music on and she said no. I then asked if anyone heard the baby and again everyone said no. Oh, that's even crazier. Yeah. So at this point, I'm hella creeped out and I feel like someone is behind me. So I just keep walking and occasionally turning around and checking over my shoulder. The more I walk, the closer this thing feels to me. At one point, I heard RC start to freak out and he ran and jumped in the car, begging me to get in too. And me thinking I'm a big bully badass said no. Kate and Josh also began telling me to and again I say no. So I keep walking alone next to the car and at this point whatever I feel following me is like right behind me. It feels like it's breathing down my neck.
Starting point is 00:50:13 It's so close that when I was like, maybe I should get in the car and right as I think that, all three my friends start screaming and telling me to get in the car. I quickly run and jump in and Kate starts driving. When I got in, R.C. tells me that the reason he got in was because he and the other two, heard an animalistic growl. And not only that, he saw what he described as a woman crouched down on all floors, following behind me in the woods, wearing a white stained dress. He said she wouldn't take her eyes off of me and she looked very threatening and he didn't have a good feeling. Of course you didn't, sir. I never heard the growl and I never saw the woman. Josh, who was sitting in the front was crying and couldn't get control of himself. He said that he had a flash
Starting point is 00:51:02 image of a woman with the same description standing right behind me also, and all he felt was fear and couldn't control his emotions. I felt a pure sense of dread and sadness, and I couldn't get rid of the feeling. I also felt that whatever that woman was that followed me down the road continued to follow me for a couple blocks as we drove home, and I had to continue praying for almost 20 minutes before that feeling subsided. I also along with Kate had a feeling of wanting to turn around and stay. We didn't want to leave, which is weird, because my body was screaming run, but my head was like, this is fine, it's okay, let's just stay and hang out. That was single-handedly the most terrifying moment of my life. However, I did go back, and this was only a couple days ago. This time I was too
Starting point is 00:51:47 scared to get out of the car, but I did roll my windows down and tried listening to see if I heard anything, which I didn't, but I did see a weird string of glowing lights floating in midair. And then they just disappeared like nothing was ever there. I'm not sure if I'd ever go back again, because this place has absolutely terrified me. But who knows, I love a good ghost story. Anyways, I hope you guys loved my terrifying story and get to experience true fear like that someday. Or maybe not. It's not fun.
Starting point is 00:52:14 L.O.L. Stay weird. Joy, honey. I don't know about that. Joy. Joy. You made me freaked the fuck out. I. Oh, just picturing that woman like on all fours.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah, get out of here. Stand up. I cannot. On all fours, I am. Nope. Like her upper body strength that must be unmatched. Oh, and she was just following behind you. No, I hate that with most of my hatred in my body.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Oy. Yeah. Thanks, Joy. Let's get away from that, please. And let's go away from that. To a better place. Shades of Death Road. Oh, there we go.
Starting point is 00:52:55 In New Jersey. Bring it to a lighter place. By the way, apparently, this is not the only shades of death road. So just to clarify, this one is in New Jersey. I never would have known that there were several. Yeah, neither would I have. So that's a sentence. Now, nobody is, like, really sure how Shades of Death Road in New Jersey, which is, by the way, one of the most haunted roads in the world.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Okay. Nobody's sure how it got its name. But there's a lot of. of stories that have been told throughout history that could point to a possible namesake. One of those stories is that like in the area there was a bunch of wild cats like panthers and shit. Oh, panthers. That would chase you down and eat you. Okay. Yeah, that's just one. Okay. That's just one. Just to start you off with. But if you've never heard of this road, I'm going to set up like a little visual for you. It's about seven miles long and it runs along
Starting point is 00:53:49 Jenny Jump State Forest. Now, along said road, there's supposed to be this old haunted lake. And if you drive by this specific part of the road at night, you might experience a phenomena called the Great Meadows Fog. Now, legend has it that when settlers first arrived on this land, they of course started battling with Native Americans because they were fucking terrible, the people battling them. Exactly. Now, they already considered this land home.
Starting point is 00:54:17 and many of the Native Americans, though, ended up getting killed. They were either drowned in the lake itself or they were tossed in the lake after they were already murdered. Oh, my God. So now people driving through the road at night will see this, like, thick fog surrounding the area. But for some reason, like above, like where the sky is, looks like it's super bright. So you can make things out in the fog. And people will see apparitions of humans just hovering above the lake or walking alongside it. And it's just like, it feels like it's like an embodiment of tragedy. It totally does.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Like, you know, it's just like that's it. That's the personification of just death and trauma. It is. It's just like horrific. Yeah. Now, other people think that Shades of Death Road got its name because a ton of people have been murdered there over the years. Yeah, that makes sense. It does. So back in the day, it actually was just simply noted as Shades Road. And people think the reason for that is that there's this area of really low hanging trees toward the end. of the road. But the trees didn't just provide shade for people driving by to like knock at the sun in their eyes. But it also provided a hiding place for the highway robbers of the time. Yeah. They would lurk but behind, or not behind, they would lurk underneath those trees and wait for people traveling to make their way down. Now once those people made it to the shady part, the crooks would come tearing from their hiding spots. They'd slit your throat if you were
Starting point is 00:55:44 traveling by and steal everything that you were traveling with. Now, that could be one explanation as to why of death was added to shades. Right. Yeah. Makes sense. But there's actually a little more to that story that could be another explanation. So the people who live nearby or had to travel down the road often, they were fucking fed up with this highway robbery bullshit. Yeah, it's highway robbery. Legit. Actually. And they wanted to do something about it. So they banned together and they got a whole of the robbers. And when they did, they hung them from all those low-hanging trees. Oh, damn. It's also said that they would leave the bodies of these men up in the trees as a way to warn other people that this would happen to them if they started highway robbing people. What a time to be alive. Yeah. So people would
Starting point is 00:56:33 like walk by and see that and they'd be like, oh my God, I'm not going to highway rob anybody, but also we should add of death to the end of the Shades Road. 100%. I mean, that's a very good deterrent, I would say. I would say so. But wait, there's more. Now, another possible reason for the name of the road is actually a rather deadly malaria outbreak back in 1850. Cute. This area was filled with like, or was filled with swamp land, I guess. And for that reason, there was a ton of mosquitoes looming in the area and a lot of them were infected. Those damn musquitos. Mosquitoes. Mosquitoes. And this doctor, Dr. William I. Rowe commented back then on just how badly these people were affected by the malaria outbreak. And he said, the intermittents were very severe and many of the
Starting point is 00:57:20 residents expected the usual attacks of chills in the spring, while a family moving into the neighborhood from a non-malarial district seldom escaped the ravages of myasma in one form or another. Ooh. So like all these people were just getting malaria. So it's not great. No. Now, luckily, in 1884, New Jersey spent over $100,000. back then. And they drained the swampy area, which luckily led to the death stopping for a while. But unfortunately, there would be plenty more. We just couldn't blame mosquitoes. Oh. Three confirmed murders have taken place in the area. Damn. Like confirmed but like unconfirmed all at the same time.
Starting point is 00:58:03 All right. I feel like. Yeah. Most of them happened around the 1920s and 30s. One man was robbed alongside the road and he was actually killed with his own carjack. Oh, damn. For some, golds that he had on him at the time. Another woman lived in the area and she killed her husband. She decapitated him and buried his head on one side of the road and then apparently buried his torso on the other side of the road. Damn. And then finally, another man was shot to death and then buried in the area.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Wow. His name was Bill Cummins and from the sound of it, his case is actually still cold. They never found out why he was killed or for what reason. or who did it. Whoa. So with so much death surrounding the area, obviously legends have been conjured over the years about different things that will happen to you as you're traveling through. Now, some people say that you're going to see the ghost of a woman, or like a teenager, and she apparently died after prom as her and her friends were speeding along the road in a rainstorm. They crashed and they passed away. But people will see her spirit, her spirit,
Starting point is 00:59:10 still walking up and down the road wearing her tattered prom dress, which I feel like that would just be so creepy. That is so creepy. And other people play this game where they drive along Lenape Lake Road and they stop at this abandoned farmhouse at the end of the road. It's like a long, it's like near shades of death road. Now, if you stop in front of the stable next to the farmhouse and you wait a second, a lot of people say that you'll see this white orb coming from the end of the road and that's when
Starting point is 00:59:42 you're supposed to start driving and the white orb is going to chase your car all the way to shades of death road and then at some point while you're on this like high speed chase together with an orb with this white orb it might turn red oh now if this happens you're going to wish that you had not played this game because when the light turns red that's a sure sign that you're about to get killed oh no yeah that's a spooky game But one beautiful thing that happens on this road is that there's actually a Native American spirit guide said to actually morph into a deer and appear to you as like a way of urging you to slow down. Oh. Like you're because, and he does this because he knows that like there's a deer later on like along the road that is going to run out and that you'll crash and probably hurt the deer.
Starting point is 01:00:31 So he appears to you trying to tell you to slow down. I love that. And to end this. I know. I love that so much. And to end this, apparently so many people have actually tried to steal the road sign that locals have been forced to grease the pole up with oil or like some kind of slippery substance so that people can't steal the sign.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Oh my God. So if you want to go see the road and like maybe go see the spirit guide, that's beautiful. But don't try to steal the sign. Yeah, don't try to steal the sign. Because you're just going to get slippery hands out of it. You're just going to get oiled up. Gross. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yeah. That's gnarly. Narnly. Of death road is so metal. I know. I think if the other one is like of substance, I'll cover it for the next spooky roads. Yeah, we're going to have to look at the other one for sure. Guys, thank you for these road suggestions.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And please send us more to a morbid podcast at gmail.com and just make sure that you put spooky roads in the title. In the title, everybody. I started to feel like I was a disc jockey. Guys, you need some. But no, you've done amazing job. guys, we have hundreds and hundreds of roads to choose from. I love it. So we can keep this going.
Starting point is 01:01:42 It's been so fun because I have not heard of any of these roads. No, me either. So this is opening us up to a whole new, like, fun thing here. I feel like the next edition that we should do should just be a Massachusetts edition. Yeah, it should. And like we should travel to them. We should. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Do the legends. Do them. All right, that's the next spooky roads. Okay. So when that's coming out, we'll let you know. We hope you enjoyed this one. And we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Weird. Keep it somewhere there if you want to go to these roads. You do go to these roads. But definitely don't steal the signs. I definitely don't leave your baby crying by a bridge because you're going to have instant regret and then you're going to want to go back and get it. And it's not going to be there anymore. And then it's going to be the sight of everybody driving down that road and finding you and your baby.
Starting point is 01:02:21 And it's just like, do you really want that to be your life for the rest of the afterlife? I feel like you don't. You don't want to be a legend like that. And you don't want to be trespassing. So don't do that. Don't keep it so weird. Don't you're a trespassing.

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