Morbid - The Strange Death of Cindy James

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

On June 8, 1989, a municipal worker discovered the body of forty-four-year-old Cindy James in the backyard of an abandoned home in Richmond, British Columbia, hogtied and with a woman’s stocking wra...pped around her neck. Two weeks earlier, friends had reported Cindy missing when she failed to show up for a game of cards and when the authorities searched Cindy’s car, they discovered blood and other signs that indicated she may have met with foul play.After opening an investigation into Cindy’s death, investigators learned that, for nearly a decade leading up to her death, Cindy James had repeatedly reported to Richmond Police that she was a victim of harassment, stalking, and assault, and had even turned over threatening letters and answering machine messages as evidence of the harassment; yet local police were unable to verify her story or intervene to protect her.At first, Cindy’s death appeared to be the inevitable and tragic conclusion of a years’-long campaign of harassment and terror by an unknown stalker; however, when investigators began digging into Cindy’s personal history, they discovered evidence that contradicted their initial assumptions and pointed towards a far stranger explanation for her death.Thank you to the incredible Dave White of Bring Me The Axe Podcast for research and writing support!ReferencesGraham, Patracia. 1989. "We could have done better for Cindy." The Province, June 16: 37.Hall, Neal. 1989. "Body believed to be missing nurse's." Vancouver Sun, June 9: 1.—. 1990. "Ex-spouse angrily denied woman's lurid charge." Vancouver Sun, March 7: A12.—. 1990. "James' ex-husband tells of fear police would frame him." Vancouver Sun, March 8: 19.—. 1990. "James felt abandoned, ex-husband testifies ." Vancouver Sun, May 8: 16.—. 1990. "James inquest hears of 1984 kidnap claim." Vancouver Sun, March 2: 15.—. 1990. "James recalled bloody tale." Vancouver Sun, March 6: 19.—. 1990. "Under siege." Vancouver Sun, March 24: A9.Horwood, Holly. 1990. "James inquest a strain for jurors." The Province, May 31: 4.—. 1990. "Nurse changed her story." The Province, February 28: 6.—. 1990. "Threats, attacks preceded death." The Province, February 27: 2.Jiwa, Salim. 1989. "Body is nurse's." The Province , June 9: 5.—. 1989. "Somebody tailed Cindy." The Province, June 1: 4.Mulgrew, Ian. 1991. Who Killed Cindy James? Seal Press: New York, NY.Pemberton, Kim. 1989. "Strange ordeal of Cindy James." Vancouver Sun, July 13: 17.Vancouver Sun. 1989. "Abduction feared by nurse's dad." Vancouver Sun, June 2: 37.—. 1990. "Conflicting evidence fabricated tangled puzzle for inquest." Vancouver Sun, May 29: 9.—. 1990. "Coroner's jury to hear of mysterious incidents." Vancouver Sun, February 26: 21.—. 1989. "Police ask help in locating missing nurse." Vancouver Sun, May 30: 33. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is morbid. Guys, the West Memphis three case is still, like, awful. It's wild. It's always been mind-boggling, but somehow, like, and you would never think that it could somehow get more mind-boggling. Yeah. But with every passing step, it just blows my fucking mind with what Arkansas is doing to these people. It's wild. So Damien Eckles, tweeted yesterday, the prosecutor in our case, Keith Crestman, has now filed a motion asking the judge to refuse our request to test evidence in order to reveal the actual murderer. And he wrote, Arkansas continues to follow the path of corruption they set out on the very beginning of this case.
Starting point is 00:01:14 They don't want to test evidence to find the actual murderer of three eight-year-old boys. And it makes no sense because, like, in the Alford plea, like Damian, Jesse, and um, Jason. Jason. Sorry, I just totally lost. They're like, they can't sue Arkansas like because of the Alford plea. So Arkansas really has nothing to lose. You know what they have to lose?
Starting point is 00:01:42 All the egos of the fucking assholes who work this case and who were, that judge was such a dick on the original case. They, this is egos and this is covering something up. I don't know. It's something is so stinky here. And we all know it and we're all seeing it happening, but no one can stop it. And it's infuriating to me. That's why I was like, yesterday I was like, what can we do?
Starting point is 00:02:06 Like, what can, honestly? Well, that's the thing. Like we were just sitting here saying like, like, Elaine was like, I want to do something. Like, can we do something? Yeah, I was like, I would love to. But what do we do? I don't know what we can do because it's, it's for Jason. It's for Damien.
Starting point is 00:02:19 It's for Jesse. But it's also for Michael, Christopher and Stevie. It's like, guys, there needs to be like, we know they didn't do it. It's very clear. Arkansas would not have allowed these three men to walk out the door. If they were child murders. One, they knew they were child murders and two, they had the evidence to keep them. So it's like, come on. And the fact that they are not willing to test this.
Starting point is 00:02:43 If they thought that these men did it, then they would test the fuck out of this evidence to further prove that they were right. That's what they would do. They would confirm, look, we were right. another fucking like level up on their egos. But they know that this is going to point to someone else. They know that this is, if there is DNA on those ligatures, which they have the fucking technology,
Starting point is 00:03:04 it's like a vacuum kind of like thing that takes more DNA out of it. And that's what they want to use. Like that's what Damien is proposing they use. They won't do it. And it's like if they, they know that once they vacuum out that fucking DNA, that it's going to point to someone, I don't,
Starting point is 00:03:22 I'm not going to say anything. names, but I think we all know. We're all thinking the same thing. We're all reading the same book. We're all reading Calvin and Hobbs, you know? So like we all, we all know what we're talking about here. It's also just like, why would Damien be fighting so hard for this evidence to be tested? If he was going to get proven guilty. Right. It makes no sense. All of them are. Like Jason is, like, they're all, why would they all be trying to prove their own guilt? That doesn't make sense. No. They would not fight this hard. It just goes to show that this is Arkansas being like, nope, Sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:53 This is outrageous. Nope. Go fuck yourself. It's outrageous. And this is egos. This is that Gary Gitchell wanted to get this case closed the second that he was on it. And for a second, I was like, okay, I understand you want to get like child murderers off the streets and you want to make everybody safe again.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And like, that's a big deal. That's clearly not what you wanted. But you did it at the expense of three innocent people's lives. And at the expense of these three eight-year-olds who were brutally murdered in their entire families. Because he wanted it to look. that way. It was all a facade. It was not actually serving justice. Yeah, it just, oh, I can't, this case, I can't get over it. I can't let this go. Like, I'm officially at the point where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:04:35 all right, I'm contacting people. I'm going to figure out how we can get involved in this, because are we going to fly to Arkansas? I'll do what I have to do here because I'm, I can't just watch this anymore and like just talk about it on the podcast. I'm like, what I got to do something. Like, give me gloves, let me do something. I don't know. Like, I feel so helpless in this. And this case means like a lot in my brain and I just need. So I'm going to figure out what we can do. Well, because at the center of I'm going to let you guys know if you can do anything too if you feel like you want to. Yeah. And it's like, again, at the center of this case are three little boys, eight year old boys and like, were brutally murdered. They've been served no justice.
Starting point is 00:05:13 None. And their families have been, I mean, it's just, oh, it's. And presumably whoever did this is just fucking walking around. Yeah. They could still be alive and hurting other people, hurting other kids potentially. Like, we don't know. And just able to exist in life. These boys didn't even get to, I mean, Jesus, they were eight. There's so many things they didn't get to do. Like they just were, literal babies became frozen in time. Yeah. They're eight year olds. Eight year olds forever. And this person is just going to keep walking around free. And these three men are going to keep having the stigma of people being like, well, you're still gillard. on them. And they're trying so hard to prove that they're not and no one's allowing them the
Starting point is 00:05:55 chance. And it's because Arkansas doesn't want to have fucking egg on its face. Well, guess what? You have fucking an entire omelet on your fucking faces. And everyone can see it. We all know it's true. And you're proving again and again that you are fucking covering something up. Mm-hmm. Oh. It's, that frustrating isn't even the word for it. There needs to be a new word for it. Yeah. It truly does. Because it goes so. far beyond frustration. I'm going to, I got to like contact some people so I can like get my hands dirty in this because I feel very helpless and I feel like I'm not doing enough. I'm going to contact like Bob Ruff. I want to like do we call like do we call the Supreme Court? Talk to Maggie
Starting point is 00:06:33 Freeling again. Like we're going to we got to figure something out here. Yeah. We got to make it happen. We'll try. Honestly. We'll surely try. But that's my frustration station rant for today. That's it. That's a good one. And hopefully we'll have some better updates for you. Maybe we can make something happen here. Something's got to give. Like, I know it's like taking a lot of push, but I think eventually, like, the truth comes out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And justice hopefully prevails. Oh, God. You hope. Like, you just have to hope. So far. You don't hope. So far you got nothing. But, well, I think justice doesn't always prevail just by itself.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It needs to be. Yeah. Aggressively pushed. Yeah, exactly. For sure. And I think we need to do that. We need the combination. The combination.
Starting point is 00:07:19 All right. Well, with that being said, obviously that was like very important to get out there. With that being screamed. With that being yelled into your ear meat. Now I actually have a pretty long case for us today. I'm ready. And we are going to be talking about the murder of Abraham Shakespeare. I have heard of this one. I think if you're like a super true crime head, you've definitely heard of this one. I hope I can bring you something new. She had new light. I found a lot of court documents. I found like the search warrants.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I found like a bunch of stuff. So I was like in this fucking case. Yeah, because I know this one like generally. I don't know a lot of details or anything. So this will be a new experience for me. I'm excited to give you that experience. So this week we are going down to Florida. Florida.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And you've probably heard us cover like the fun somewhat lighthearted Florida man stories on crime countdown. But this case is like a far cry from any fun lighthearted Florida man. and instead we're going to hear about this sick, twisted, manipulative, cold-blooded Florida woman. Cool. Her name is Doris Donagin Moore, but over the years, people simply came to know her as D.D. Dedy. So she is Dedy Moore. And strangely enough, in her younger years, D.D.
Starting point is 00:08:35 had dreams of, like, helping people, which when we learned a lot more about her life, you're like, you wanted to help people at one point in time? Yeah. Question mark? Are you sure? When she was little, she was in the brownie. she did Girl Scouts. She even went to like different Bible studies with this group of younger girls that called themselves the missionettes. Oh, I was like that's fucking adorable. And growing up, Dee Dee knew that she always wanted to become a nurse. And when the time came to go to school for that,
Starting point is 00:09:01 she excelled in her classes and she got her license to practice as a CNA just like her mom Linda. Nice. And Dee Dee said that she wanted to do a job where she could help people, but also make a good living because throughout her childhood, especially I think when she hit like middle school and high school, she became very hyper aware of the fact that her family wasn't necessarily as well off as some of her friends' families. And it was like a very big source of contention in her life. Okay. Because she hated the idea of people thinking that she was poor. She would make her parents drop her off like a block away from whatever she was going to, whether it was like school or a slumber party. Oh, that's really sad. Yeah. And that just like sucks for your parents. It's kind of different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:41 That's really like you'd feel so embarrassed by that. Yeah, like I grew up pretty poor and like my mom's cars were always really embarrassing, but I was like, check out that ugly car. Like, it's a car. My mom has it. We got here. But unfortunately for Didi, it was going to take some time to work her way up to getting the salary that she felt was good enough.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And for a while, her and her husband, James, struggled to make ends meet. D.D. though, she was a crafty lady who came up with some very alarming schemes to make the family, the money that she was so desperate for. A scheme is never good. No, don't be scheming. Don't be calling things a scheme. And she wasn't, but she was scheming on the low. Yeah. On the high, really. On the high, really. So in the clouds, essentially. She was scheming on cloud now. Now, in the early 90s, she went to work for a medical staffing company. And the people who ran the company were like, wow, she's a natural at this. Like, she's actually very business savvy. She's got a good head on her shoulders. And at this point, she's in her early 20s. So they were
Starting point is 00:10:40 pretty impressed with her and her business skills. And one of her fellow employees was a woman named Karen DeSalvo. And she knew that Didi had a side hustle. D.D. was working for Next tell. Like way back when. Do you remember the little beep beep? And you could, yeah, like the walkie talkie thing? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I also remember like not the same thing, but Motorola's. And it was like, hello, motel. Like a triggering sound. A triggering sound. But so she, and this was like probably right around when like cell phones were really become a big thing. So her side hustle, she was selling these nextel phones and like different phone plans that went along with them. Okay. So over the years of working together, Karen and Dede became closer. And Karen realized that Dede like wasn't really doing so bad with the cell phone
Starting point is 00:11:29 hustle. She was bringing in a good amount of extra dough. And in 2004, the two of them actually came up with the idea to start their own business kind of doing something similar, selling phones and plans, but they did it under a company called All About Cellular. So just, I don't really understand how that works. It doesn't have as good a ring to it as next step. Yeah. And I don't really know how it worked because obviously it was in like the early 90s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Now if you want a new phone, like you call Verizon or AT&T. But I think that it was like before all of these like Verizon and AT&T and Sprint were really established. Oh yeah, for sure. So I think you could kind of have like a small business doing this. All right. I see. And they were doing like pretty well together.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Karen was listed as the president of the company and Dede was the vice president. And I think Karen's husband was kind of working for the business too. It's a family affair. It was. But things took a turn for the worst when D.D. got tasked with opening a new branch for the med staffing company. Now this new branch was actually her idea and she brought it to like the higher ups in the company and said, you know, I think opening a location in Plant City, Florida would be really genius. and she was like, it's in quote unquote untapped area. And she was like, I think you would really reap financial benefits if you would just consider letting me do this and helping out with this.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Okay. So they were like, oh, wow, look at her. Such a business savvy woman. Taking initiative. I know. Like, wow, Didi. So obviously she was given the clear to start the project. And just like most of Dede's projects, all was well and fine for a short while.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But then things started to take a turn and head downhill. Eek. So the company started to be. noticing that there was a lot of money going out of this branch and not a lot coming in. And so they launched an internal investigation because they were like, this isn't adding up. They were like, that's not how business is supposed to work. No, no, no. And they realized that D.D. had taken about $62,000 in an elaborate payroll scheme.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So she was like putting extra money in people's checks, but then like taking the difference. It was like very intense. Oh, wow. Yeah. But by the time, like right around the time they were getting ready to take things to court, the branch had a mysterious fire. And all of the files burned that like would have proved everything. But strangely enough, just a couple of days before this fire, a lot of expensive equipment and things that were important to D.D. moved. But all the files that were really important in this investigation mysteriously burned. seems legit yeah you know definitely i'm not worried about it no i think you know just like sporadic
Starting point is 00:14:12 combustion obviously no just like that's just what happens yeah so um dd was fired oh really very quickly wow and basically she was supposed to pay the company back about 25 000 but it's unclear if she ever paid that money or not all right yeah and unclear unclear and i don't think they were ever able to prove that she started the fire but everybody was like yeah started the fire. Yeah, exactly. So the time between 1999 and 2001 was really rough for Dedi and her family because not only had she been fired from the med staffing company, but she had basically been fired from Nextel and banned from selling any phones or plans that had anything to do with their company because she was being investigated for another
Starting point is 00:15:00 fraud scheme there. Sometimes you just got to like cut your losses here. Yeah, like and stop being fraudulent. No fraud. Yeah. Like fraud is not a good thing to begin with. And especially when you just you're getting caught over and over again. It's clearly not working out for you. This isn't your path in life. Like you're not good at fraud. And that's something, that's actually a feather in your cap. You can, you can say that. I'm not good at being fraudulent. I don't like, I don't enjoy being fraudulent. Don't, don't keep trucking with it. Just get it, get a regular, like, you're a CNA. Like, get on the straight and narrow. You don't get like a ton of money doing that, but you can work your way up. Yeah. It's hard work. Yeah. And usually, most, most, things in life you have to work your way to the top. Truth. A lot of people don't want to do that. D.D. Did not want to do that. So she can't saw these next cell phones anymore. The business with Karen is gone because Karen's like, I don't trust you anymore. Karen's like, no, thank. She can't sell the phones. So real, real bad. And then she was also arrested multiple times. One time she was arrested for shoplifting.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And then the next time she was arrested for writing a bad check to the county tax collector, which just like write this down. You don't want to do that. Again, that's when you're really bad at being fraudulent. Like, tax collectors will always like find the money. I mean, it's that the whole thing that like only certain things are very certain in life and taxes is one of them. Like, yeah. So don't fuck with it.
Starting point is 00:16:22 It always rains true. It's going to come back at you. It always is. Yeah, so she got arrested for that. Yeah, she sure did. Both of those arrests actually only led to probation time. But the bad times just kept. rolling in.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Because in 2001, this is sad. D.D. and her husband, and by this point, they had a young son together. They were all evicted from the house that they were leasing because they'd fallen too far behind on the payments. And D.D., excuse me. I was about to say my own name, T. D.D. tried to gain the landlord's sympathy by saying that there was someone after her family and she dove into like this wild story about someone leaving her a warning sign on the front
Starting point is 00:16:59 porch that they were going to get her. and like hoping that the would be like, well, I can't kick you out now. Do what you got to do to stay in your house, I guess. Exactly. But he was like, listen, I've heard plenty of your weird stories. I've heard all your weird excuses. We're not, no, get out.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Like, I don't believe you. Like, I do not believe you. He was not the only one that was tired of these excuses and stories. Because Dedy had also bought a $50,000 Lincoln Navigator a while back. But she was getting very far behind on those payments as well. And finally, the loan officer was like, listen, we're repossessing your car. Like, you're way too far behind on these payments. And she basically told him, over my dead body, you're taking my car.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And I will, quote, unquote, do anything I have to to keep that car. Uh-oh. And that was the truth. When somebody says that, it never ends well. I'll do anything I have to. When it's for something like material, you're like, ooh, nope, that's not a good sign. Like, I'll do anything for love. But even some people won't do that.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Meatloaf. Right. He said he wouldn't. He had limits. So you would do anything, but he wasn't going to do that. Should have limits. You should. Have limits like meatloaf.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah, D.D. didn't get that note. Because a few days after that phone call, D.D. Moore was found in a ditch alongside a road in Wamama, Florida. I hope I said that right. I did look it up and it said Wamama. Wama. Wama. Wama.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Now, a man had been driving by when he spotted her, and she looked like she had been through the ringer. Her wrists were tied together. Her clothes were super dirty and she was like in hysterics. Damn. She told the man, trigger warning, that she had been carjacked and also raped. So he immediately drove her to the hospital. They processed a rape kit and the police quickly came to the hospital to like get her story and everything. Jeez. So she told them that she'd been driving her Lincoln Navigator when all of a sudden, quote unquote, three tattooed Hispanic men held her at gunpoint and told her that they were going to take her car and kill her.
Starting point is 00:19:02 She said they raped her and they said they were going to kill her. But then whoever was sitting in the back seat with her decided not to kill her. He was like, let's not kill her. He told her she needed to dye her hair blonde and that he better never see her again if they let her go. And then they tossed her out of the car. This is like reminiscent of that Sherry Pippini case. case. Do you remember you probably would know it if I heard more detail? She's like, it was a recent one. Oh, okay. And it was
Starting point is 00:19:31 the mom, like the young blonde mom who was kidnapped and then returned and said it was two Hispanic women. This is just like very similar like. Yeah. And they still don't really know what happened there and like. Just a weird. Same kind of vibes of like what is going on. So they were like, okay, like we're going to take down this information. She described the three men. So they got the description of them and they kind of start trying to investigate the case. But something about the story just isn't adding up.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And then they start looking into D.D.'s background. And they see that there's a lot more to this woman than meets the eye because she obviously by this point had been involved in multiple fraud schemes. And they had to wonder, was this another scheme because she was about to lose this car? Yep. So they got their answer days later. when a very confused man called into the police station. And he said, that navigator is parked in my garage.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And an acquaintance of mine brought it by just days earlier. So this man who called, his name's Michael Anthony Davis, and he was told that he would get $500 simply to just have this car in his garage. And he was like, you have to go talk to Steve Radella. So the police tracked on this second man who drove the car there. he said he drove the car there for Didi because she told him she was going to frame one of her previous employees that worked for her next tell business because Didi said I had to fire her because she was like doing something messed up and now I need to like pin something on her because
Starting point is 00:21:10 she's threatened to kill me so she was like I need her to like go to prison so that she doesn't kill me so this guy thinks he's being a hero. Oh my God. So we have the Lincoln Navigator parked in Michael Anthony Davis's garage. And then we have Steve Radella who drove it there thinking that he's helping Didi because this woman has threatened to kill her, that she had to like fire from her next tell business, which she doesn't have anymore. My goodness. Now there's another man because these two men are not the only people who go forward to the police telling the story. Multiple other people had been told a similar tale.
Starting point is 00:21:47 So finally they tracked down another man who. who was the one to drive Dee Dee out to O'Mama. His name was Clemente Bonilla. He drove along this country road as she tied her own wrists together, gagged herself, and then she told him to slow down so she could throw herself from his Chevy blazer and into a ditch that she had spotted along the way. How? So all of these men come forward with little tiny puzzle pieces of this.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And then finally Clemente is like, oh yeah. drove her like I didn't you know I was just driving I was just driving I was just driving I was just driving I think she like they all got paid a little bit of money of course which is like you need money so you're paying all these people to do this elaborate thing that takes tons of hard work and planning and commitment thank you won't just like I don't know you have a CNA that doesn't she ever CNA license yes work correct like I don't what are you doing that's the thing so ultimately she's charged with insurance fraud like again. Yeah. And this time falsely reporting a crime. I also just need to know how this woman had the charm to convince three men to help her carry out this elaborate scheme. But like,
Starting point is 00:23:01 obviously like I wish that she would just work. But like also you didn't have the charm to just ask them if you could borrow some money from each of them just to make the payment on your fucking car and then you wouldn't lose it. If they were willing to literally commit fraud. Thank you. And like false police reporting with you. They'd probably give you a hundred bucks. I'm sure. And also, like, you know, maybe don't buy a $50,000 car when, like, you're in the middle of, like, multiple fraud schemes and you're probably going to get caught and lose your job. And you're paying these guys to do this for you instead of just paying your car. Right. Like, just pay.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Just use that money towards your car payment. So confusing. Instead of to these random guys to throw you out of a car. Correct. This is wild. Wild already. I don't even know what to say. Only, like, the beginning of D.D.'s life.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Wow, Dedy. She also only got one year. of probation for this. Okay. Like, 45 elaborate schemes later, and this lady is still just getting slapped on the wrist. Look at the perfect examples in this episode of the justice system at work. Oh, boy. We have the beginning where it's just completely shitting the bed in Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yep. And then we have this woman who's just committing fraud left and right. This woman is just wilding on the fraud schemes. We've seen that tale. It's a tale as old as time. Yep. You could write a Beauty and the Beast song about it. You certainly could.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Because every episode, we're always like, yeah, and then they slip through the cracks. 15,000 times. Crazy. Until they murdered 100 people and then all of a sudden they were like, oh man, we should have picked them up before. Oh man. Should have looked at that. Probably shouldn't have lost that paperwork. I was just going to say, maybe I should have lost paperwork. Made that clerical error. Always an admin error. Yeah. So then we're going to go to 2002. So that's all between
Starting point is 00:24:38 like the late 90s to the early 2000s. Now we're 2002 still around the earlys. And Didi and her husband file for bankruptcy, which helped her get out of multiple other civil suits that had been brought against her. She owed $3,600 in back rent to a landlord, $21,000 to a radio station for advertising. Oh my God. And she had stolen, like, other money from various people claiming she was going to put it into like startup businesses for them. At one point, a couple had given her like 600 grand and she just like never gave it back to them. They never like got a return on their investment. Oh my God. So flash forward to 2004, Dede's seems to have some of her shit together. Not really, but she's able to open an LLC for a company called American medical
Starting point is 00:25:25 professionals on her own. Now, this company was similar to the one that she had worked at previously. It's a med staffing company, like, you know, similar to the one that may have low-key burned down. Yeah, that one. So basically any of the hospitals in the area that were in need of nurses or other medical professionals, they would call this company that D-D now it was her company. So she would find somebody available for the job and send them out there. Okay. Now, the company was doing really well, and Didi was making some serious coin doing this. And it seems like a legit business. Like, you could run that legitimately. Yeah. That is a need. That is a need that you can fill legitimately. The one that she was working at before was like a very like actual reputable company.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Medical staffing companies are a real thing before she started like basically taking all their money. Why you, why? So she's making some serious coin, probably not legally at all, but you know, we've realized that by now. But she's taking in about 200 grand a year. Damn. That's a great salary. And especially in the early 2000s. Like, 200 grand is a bomb salary now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Whoa. So she and her family move into this beautiful home. But before long, she and her husband, James, decided to separate and eventually they got divorced. He was probably, like, tired of all the fraud, perhaps. Not into the fraud. Just a guess I had. Now, in 2006, Dede meets her new boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:26:44 His name is Sharr Krasniki. And he is 11 years younger. than her and the son of one of her employees. Okay. So Shar moves into her house about a year into their relationship. And this guy just pretty much lived like the life of Riley, especially after D.D. met and became close to a man named Abraham Shakespeare. So Abraham Shakespeare, let's get a little into who he is.
Starting point is 00:27:06 He was born on April 23rd, 1966 in Sebring, Florida. Just like D.D. Moore, he would spend his whole entire life in Florida. His mother, Elizabeth Walker, was a single mom just trying to make ends meet and raise like I think she had three children and if deedy thought that she had grown up poor she should have walked a mile in Abraham shoes because he dropped out of school right around seventh grade feeling like it was more important to help his family make ends meet than to finish school oh that hurts my heart because they were like really struggling so much that he was like you know I think he was kind of like the man of the house and felt like he needed he felt like a duty at that
Starting point is 00:27:44 young age needed to contribute I mean what are you like 12 or 13 oh In seventh grade, like, come on. That hurts my heart. So because he dropped out at such a young age, excuse me, he barely knew how to read or write, and he would have trouble getting a good, quote-unquote, good job later on in life because of that. Yeah, of course. Like, those are some skills that you really need for a lot of jobs. So for the time being, though, he went to work in the Orange Groves with his dad James to earn some extra cash,
Starting point is 00:28:10 and he would take whatever money he made back to his mom to help support the family. But unfortunately, the extra help did not last long. Because when Abraham was 13 years old, he actually ended up getting sent to juvie because he was convicted of theft. Okay. I couldn't find like a ton of information on that. In some sources, I saw that he was involved in like a ring or a string of burglaries. Okay. But overall just convicted of theft.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah. So he got sentenced to five years and he didn't get out of prison until he was 18 years old. Wow. So that's like your whole teenagehood just gone right there. Big developmental stage gone. And that's a really hefty sentence to give a 13. year old. I know. It's, those things are always so hard to determine what's right and what's wrong there. Yeah, I would have to know more about the case to like really have a full-fledged opinion, but it definitely sucks.
Starting point is 00:28:58 But it's so young. Yeah. 13 is young. It's very young. So once he was out of juvie, Abraham needed to get some kind of job to make Ed's meet. But like I said earlier, that was going to prove to be difficult for him because he dropped out at such a young age. and he had spent pretty much all of his teenage years behind bars instead of being able to learn like a trade or skill or something. Yeah. So he did odd jobs to make ends meet. He would literally just walk around town and stop into the different shops and ask these owners if they needed help with anything. Like, could he do anything for them? And a couple of the business owners did need help.
Starting point is 00:29:35 The owner of Superway Foods in Lakeland, Florida was one of these guys. His name was Jimmered Yusuf Zaid. But to Abraham and the local guys like around town, He was simply Poppy. But I love that. I love it so much. So Poppy had Abraham run different errands for him. He had like Abraham do deliveries of groceries to people.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And he gave Abraham a cell phone so that he could get a hold of him if need be. And look at this. This is like Abraham is like hustling. Thank you. He's like I can't read or write through because I had to stop school early to help my family. I made a mistake. I did time for it. I'm now out.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I don't. Again, I'm still. I'm behind on. all this and it's keeping me back. Yep. But I'm going to walk around and I'm going to try to legitimately earn some money. Some honest money. By trying to help, you know, businesses and see if I can get somewhere. Exactly. And Poppy wasn't the only business owner that he was helping. Like, he was hustling. Yeah. Because another business owner who needed some help around his shop was Gregory Smith. He was like the local barber in the town. And Abraham worked there a few days a week just sweeping up
Starting point is 00:30:41 hair and like doing other little odd jobs. Yeah. And Abraham was like a really like. guy. Everybody who was friends with him was like, he was just a kind person. Yeah, I mean, that's probably part of what made these business owners like to him and want to help him like that. Yeah. So over time. And that's cool that they did that. It is really cool. And it's just like such a sense of community. Yeah, it really is. So over time, he grew really close with both of these guys. And their friendships even lasted when Abraham moved on to other jobs or when he had to spend another stint behind bars because he wasn't able to make child support payments. Eek. Because he had a son named Moses. 1998 with his girlfriend Antoinette Andrews. The two of them had like a really on again,
Starting point is 00:31:20 off again relationship. But I guess by all accounts, Abraham was like a really, really good dad. Even if him and Antoinette were not together at the time, he spent a ton of time with his son. He always wanted to make sure that he could offer Antoinette what he had. But he didn't have a lot because it was really hard to get a job. So there were times when he did fall behind on child support and ended up in jail. And it sounds like it's not one of those cases where he just doesn't. pay it. It's just he literally doesn't have the money and like be an asshole. It's like he literally just didn't have it. Right. So he ended up spending a little bit of time in prison for that. And when he gets out, he's like, I have to get a better job. Like I need a steady income because I want
Starting point is 00:32:01 to be able to support Moses. Like I love my son. So that's when he started working for a food delivery company called MBM. Now, Abraham didn't have a driver's license. So he would be the passenger while his partner, Michael Ford drove the truck to various delivery locations, and then the two of them would unload the deliveries together. So they were getting ready to make their day of deliveries on the morning of November 15th, 2006. But they decided to just make a quick stop at a convenience store, because Michael just wanted to grab a couple of drinks and probably a snack or something for the road. Yeah. So they park. He's like, hey, Abraham, do you want anything? And Abraham was like, oh, yeah, like, grab me two lottery tickets. And he handed him a few bucks.
Starting point is 00:32:41 from his wallet. So Mike came back out to the truck, gave Abraham the tickets, and the two of them just headed out for another mundane day of the deliveries. Yeah. Now Abraham didn't know it yet, but obviously we all know. Later that night, he would learn that he had one of the winning tickets to a lottery jackpot valued at $31 million. Holy shit. Like imagine getting home from a regular old day, turning the TV on and just like, you know how, like, people play the lottery. Oh, yeah. the time and you just watch the numbers like yeah whatever yeah and then you're like you're like wait oh shit i i had uh-huh yep yep yep okay yeah and back then it's like you couldn't even rewind the tv to make sure you have heard it right you're just like what the fuck and like especially for abraham
Starting point is 00:33:26 after all those years of trying to get a steady income he must have felt like he was like the king of the world oh my god i can't even imagine i can't yeah that's and coming from where he came from to that is out i mean that's like a fairy tale Absolutely. But it's a fairy tale for sure. But if you've ever heard about the curse of the lottery, you will not be surprised to find out that these hits started coming and they started coming quickly. So when you win the lottery, you got two options. Obviously you know this, but for those who don't. You can do one lump sum payment where all the taxes get taken out and you end up with a smaller amount. Still like a crazy number, but definitely significantly less than what you won. Of course. Or you can do an annuity payment where you get smaller payouts over time. So for example, if you win the power ball or like mega millions, you can choose to get that lump sum with the taxes taken out or you can go with the annuity payment. And I think how it works is they pay you 30 annuity payments over a period of 29 years. Okay. And I think you end up getting more if you do like the lump sum.
Starting point is 00:34:32 But it's like it's very confusing how it works. Yeah, I have no idea how it works. And it's like honestly there's, I think it depends like when you hit the lottery. because there's different tax rates and stuff like that, and it's where you hit it because there's different rules associated. But Abraham decided he was going to go with the one lump sum option. Okay. So after taxes were taken out, and also they had to take out some backchild support payments,
Starting point is 00:34:56 makes sense. He ended up with $12.7 million. And the amount of money they'd taken taxes, man. It's crazy. It's wild. But wouldn't you know it? Michael Ford wanted some of that money because he technically was the one who bought the tickets. but Abraham gave it always happens it always happens I used to work never have someone buy you a lottery
Starting point is 00:35:17 ticket nope I used to work at a restaurant and we would buy lottery tickets together all the time and we would always like beforehand we would like write something down and we'd all sign it like if we win like this like it was like a contract you have to yeah so he Michael Ford asked Abraham for a million dollars and I guess Abraham didn't want to give it to him so Michael Ford came out and was like listen, those tickets were actually mine and Abraham stole them out of my wallet while we were making these deliveries. So he ended up suing Abraham for the winnings in November of 2007, but Abraham was found not guilty and did not have to give him a dime. Wow. Can you just like, like what, that's such a shitty thing. It's just like actually those are mine and he stole them. And it's like, it's money makes people
Starting point is 00:36:05 do crazy things, man. Yeah, it really does. Like, because even just that, It's like just, I don't know. It's just like going after that is just like such a pointless thing. It's just greed. Yeah, that's what it is. And it's so yucky. What you get out of it is like money can't, you know, like they say, money can't buy you happiness.
Starting point is 00:36:23 It's not going to fix everything. And like Countess Louan says. Sure, it's going to fix some stuff. Money can't buy a class. Thank you. Money can't buy class. It's like when you come out of this whole thing and you're fighting your friend and like your co.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It's like. Yeah, it's just shitty. Yeah, sure. You might have money at the end of it. But it's like. Was it worth it? Don't you feel gross? Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It's just like some things, it's just yucky. The lottery always makes me feel like, like, ooh. Exactly. I agree with you. Because it never turns out well. No, it doesn't. Not at all. So he, Abraham, was very, very generous to his actual friends and his family.
Starting point is 00:36:58 He loaned out money to pretty much all of his friends and most of his family whenever they asked for it. Poppy, the one who had given him a job. Oh, yeah. He took out a million dollar loan with Abraham. Greg Smith from the barbershop borrowed money, Abraham's cousin Cedric borrowed money so that he could get a house in a car. And Abraham got to spending too, which you know, he has the right to. For sure. But it was a lot all of us.
Starting point is 00:37:23 But you want to get it under control quick. And you definitely, I think, like, it would behoove you to get a financial advisor when you win that much money. And at that point, you can afford one. Exactly. Now you can afford one. So get somebody to, like, just help you out. Right. But I also don't think he was necessarily.
Starting point is 00:37:38 like very educated when it came to finance is. I was just going to say it's not like he's been taught this stuff. He didn't have the opportunity. If you don't know, you don't know. And a lot of shady people are now going to come forward and try to tell you what to do with that money. And you might end up trusting the wrong person. That's basically the moral of this entire story. So this is great. The first thing that he did actually was set up a million dollar trust for his son Moses. Oh, that's awesome. Which I was like, you clearly love your, like. Yeah, that's really cool. Any, I watched a couple of different shows. I read a bunch of different things about this. And the one main constant thing was like how much of a family man he was and how much he loved
Starting point is 00:38:15 his kids. Oh. And it like broke my heart. It breaks my heart. So he sets up this fund for Moses. He buys a BMW, which like go off. He buys a house. He goes on cruises.
Starting point is 00:38:25 He rents halls and has like parties with all of his friends. And he's handing out like $100 bills to people. Oh my God. I love it. He's just, he's feeling himself. He's living for a minute. He's geeking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:35 So he wanted to buy his mom a house too or have her. move in with the one that he ended up buying. She did not want any part of it. She did not like the new house that Abraham had bought. She was like, it's too big. I just don't like it. It's in a gated community. That is not what I'm used to. She liked her space. Yeah. And she didn't need more. And she said, I wouldn't, she said, quote, I wouldn't have been able to pay for insurance for a house like that or taxes on a house like that. Yeah, that's true. It seemed like she was pretty financially. Like she knew what she was doing. Yeah. It's like when people win like brand. new cars on like game shows and they can't pay for it.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Right. And it's like so it's not a gift. You're winning an expense. Exactly. You're winning a bill. Right. Exactly. So she had the right idea, Elizabeth, because slowly but surely all of Abraham's money
Starting point is 00:39:24 was being spent or loaned away. And by the time he made the acquaintance of D.D. Moore, he only had about $1.3 million left for cash. Ooh. He had assets that were around like three to four million, but, only 1.3 in cash. Just from that massive sum, it's like, ooh. Because that's the thing I'm saying only, but like, I'm saying only in comparison. To having about $12 million. Right. About actually, like 13, really. Yeah. So D.D. and Abraham were introduced by Abraham's real estate agent,
Starting point is 00:39:56 Barbara Jackson. Now, Barbara was really inspired by Abraham's quote unquote, like, rags to riches story. Yeah. And the fact that he was not only enjoying the good life, but he was making sure that all his friends and family were taken care of too. So she was talking to a group of people one day. I guess she was on this panel and she was telling Abraham's story. And one of the people listening to that story was Dee Dee Moore. D.D. introduced herself to Barbara and then explained that she would love to meet this inspirational man because, you know, she too had come from nothing and she was such an honest woman who worked her way to the top. And actually, she had written a book about her story and she would love, love, love, love to talk to Abraham and get a book written about his story.
Starting point is 00:40:41 How wonderful would that be? Okay. Now, she said, is there any way you could connect the two of us? And Barbara said, of course, like what a great idea. Have a book written about Abraham. He's this great guy. He deserves the recognition. Let's figure this out.
Starting point is 00:40:55 So they make plans to reconnect and Abraham's going to be there. And it's about two weeks after this panel. So they decided to meet at a red lobster restaurant in Lakeland, which, Hell yeah, Red Lobster. So this was in October of 2008. Now, the day that Barbara had spoken with this Didi woman, she was in a wheelchair, Didi, and said that she had been in a pretty bad car accident pretty recently, and she suffered various injuries. You know, some people just have bad luck.
Starting point is 00:41:23 It's the worst luck. The worst. It was weird, though, because like two weeks later, when she rolled up to Red Lobster and, like, her nice shiny SUV, she hopped out of that car, were in a nice dress, and, super high heels and she just strolled on over like she hadn't been wheelchair bound three minutes earlier. Maybe, you know, maybe she knows Julietta from Enkanto and she gave her an Arepa and it healed her. Maybe, maybe. Barbara asked her and she didn't say Julietta helped.
Starting point is 00:41:53 She did not, okay. She did, however, say that she had been doing scuba therapy and that's, it was just like speedy recovery. Same. Scuba therapy. Same. It couldn't explain how it worked at all, but it was like scuba. I don't need to know how it works. Diving.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah, I believe it checks out. Aquamarine. Yes. I am a mermaid. Yeah, like, I fully believe it. I'm cured. Yes, you did scuba therapy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Okay. All right. So, Barbara felt like we did. I think she was like, I, she was just like, I, I'm out of questions to ask. What do I even ask? That's the thing. Like, and I think D.D. knew that. I think in saying scuba therapy, what fucking question, how do you follow that up?
Starting point is 00:42:29 That's, you know, it's like in, there's a Gilmore Girls episode where they're trying to confuse Taylor. in the middle of a town meeting. And Lorelai says, like, baby diapers and dorsal fins. And he's like, what? And she's like, I just say words to get him and then eventually he'll move on. That was D.D.'s way of living. Scuba therapy.
Starting point is 00:42:47 She just said baby diapers and dorsal fins. She moved on. I mean, pretty much the same theme. Yeah. So Abraham and Dede meet and they hit it off. It seems like a very unlikely pair to most of the people who knew Abraham. To me as well. But, you know, they hit it off.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It worked out. She asked him questions about how his life had changed since winning the lottery. And he explained that there was a lot of people who had borrowed money from him and not paid him back. And he said there was a lot of people that were just coming out of the woodwork now wanting to like hang out with him like, oh man, haven't talked to you in so long. Like what's up? That just hadn't been around for years. Of course. He also mentioned, and I like hate this.
Starting point is 00:43:26 He mentioned that he had to change his phone number like multiple times because his phone would just ring at all hours. Like people were constantly calling pestering him for money. Oh, that's terrible. It's like, go to work, shut up. Why do we suck so much as a species? As a humanity? Why don't we really suck this much? So, Didi is like, you know, playing like she's so concerned for Abraham.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And she's like, oh my gosh, like I'm so sorry that you're going through all this. You know, how much money have you lent out to people? And she was shocked that he had gone through nearly all of his money. Like I said earlier, in cash only about 1.3 left. And in assets, Didi realized that there was still about three to four million dollars. Yeah. So she was like, all right. I can work with that.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Mm-hmm. The thing about Didi was that she was very manipulative. And the way that she approached this situation in the beginning was like very careful. Like, I'm your friend and I'm here to help you. Of course. She was ready to play the long game if she needed to. But I think she also knew that it was not going to be that hard to trick Abraham because he didn't have a very vast knowledge when it came to finance. again, he could only read and write up to a certain point, and she knew that.
Starting point is 00:44:35 So I think she was praying upon his weaknesses. Of course. Excuse me. I know she was. I was going to say. Now, all of his friends said that when they would text him, they would, that he would just call them back to talk about whatever they had, like, texted him about. And his most recent girlfriend, Centoria Butler, said that she usually had to read text
Starting point is 00:44:53 to him. So it was like, you know, he wasn't like going to text people all the time. Like, clearly that was, like, it was a well-known thing. So Didi got to work quickly acting as a hero in Abraham's life. She told him that they were going to wait on the book for now. And then in the meantime, she was going to help him get back control of his finances. So the first thing was first. She was going to track down all the people who had borrowed money from him
Starting point is 00:45:18 and start getting them on these payment plans so that Abraham could make his money back. Right here, you're like, okay. Yeah. Awesome. Of course. Like I need somebody to do that for me. For sure. So she totaled the amount that people owed him to be about $2 million, which is bananas.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Now people started talking about the quote-unquote white lady coming around because they were like not used to Abraham being involved with like a white woman. Yeah. And it was kind of like a big, like it was like that's strange. Like he's usually not comfortable with that. Yeah. And since this is out of the ordinary, they're like what's happening here? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:56 It was just, it felt strange because people felt like not only was the situation strange, but that there was something off about this woman. And they couldn't put their finger on it. But a lot of people were urging Abraham to maybe think twice about letting this, I mean, brand new woman run his finances. Yeah, somebody you don't know. Right. But Abraham seemed to be at a breaking point with handling the finances.
Starting point is 00:46:17 He didn't want to deal with it. Yeah, I mean, his phone is ringing at all hours of the night and he's just fucking tired of it. Yeah. And I think he was just like, you know what? Dedi's helping help. And I believe it. And I don't want to hear anything. about it. Yeah. He actually even had a couple of falling outs with friends who warned him about
Starting point is 00:46:34 D.D., because he was just like, I can't. Like, no, just stop. Like, I just want to do this. Let me do what I want to do. Now, running around and trying to collect debts was only one step in Diti's master plan. She next had Abraham liquidate an annuity account that had about $250,000 in it. And she told him that she needed that cash to pay his taxes. But strangely enough, that $250,000 ended up in her American medical professionals account and was used for a quote unquote payroll, like was written off as used, like used for payroll. Okay. So she didn't pay his taxes.
Starting point is 00:47:08 No. Mm-mm. I'm shocked. I'm crazy. Next, she was somehow able to convince Abraham to sign over all of his assets to her. Oh, I knew you were going to say that. Now, I'm assuming that she most likely lied to him about what he was signing. Oh, she had to.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And honestly, like, if somebody handed me a piece of paper like that, I'd be like, I need to have, like, somebody else look at this. Yeah. I don't even know what this says. But he doesn't. But he's over it. And he's not thinking that way because he just, he doesn't have any experience with that. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And when you don't have experience with that stuff, when you're being handed like, you know, pieces of paper and contracts and financial agreements and all that, it's like, that's scary. And you're like, oh, just get it out of my face. I just wanted to go away. And so I'm sure she lied to him about what he was signing. And in just a matter of days between January 9th to January 15th, Abraham had signed over multiple cards. multiple houses, multiple different accounts. The $3 million he had in assets was sold to D.D. For about $840,000.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Wow. So not an even trade. Wow. No. She had said that she bought his house from him, but there was no record of the actual like purchase. And she said the house was about like $1.1 million when he bought it. And there was actually this whole big thing where he had,
Starting point is 00:48:28 it was worth it was worth far less than what he had bought it for. Like it was a really big deal. And he ended up having to make up the difference because that will happen. Oh, what a shit show. And then she bought the house for like, she quote unquote bought the house for way less than it was worth, D.D. Great. But they were like, I don't even think she bought it.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. And she wasn't even done yet. She told Abraham that the two of them should set up an investment fund together. Yeah. And that she would put a good portion of his money in there to keep it safe and leave it untouched and it would grow over time. Yeah, she's just trying to keep things safe. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Together in February of 2009, they set up Abraham Shakespeare LLC, where Didi was listed as an owner and Abraham was listed as an authorized signer. Now, when you set up an LLC, if you're unfamiliar with what that is, it's a limited liability company and it's a quote unquote business structure in the U.S. that protects its owners from personal responsibility for its debts or liabilities. So they're hybrid entities that combine the characteristics of a corporation with those of a partnership or a sole proprietorship. And that is according to investipedia.com. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:49:36 But when you sign an LLC, there can be two owners on it. There was no reason for if this was their LLC together for them both not to be listed as owners. Yeah, they could just be co-owners. Like why was he listed as just an authorized signer? That's basically just an employee. That doesn't make sense. So Abraham signed off and the LLC was a fact. official. But just two weeks after the LLC became official, D.D. took Abraham off of it as an
Starting point is 00:50:02 authorized signer, which she had the power to do as the owner of the LLC. And she claimed that it was because of, quote, criminal activity on his part that may lead to charges. And then she started funneling the money that had been in Abraham's accounts to her own business, American medical professionals, and then just closed that LLC. Oh my gosh. So got rid of it in entirely. She's like beyond. I've never even. The cold callousness with what she is just fucking with people in their lives is really insane.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Like I've never. No. Never seen anything like this. Like I've seen like very different things, but I have never seen this specific kind of person. Wow. Such commitment to this too. Yeah, such commitment. She was living in his house before she even bought it with him.
Starting point is 00:50:54 She convinced him to let her live in his house. And then she never bought it from him. She just claimed that she did. No, of course. So when she had all of his money, she was living in his mansion, she was driving around a couple of new cars herself, including a Hummer, a Corvette, and a new truck. Around that time where she was doing all these things,
Starting point is 00:51:11 people stopped hearing so much from Abraham. His mom hadn't seen him in weeks. Oh, no. And she usually saw him pretty often. And the only semblance of correspondence that anybody would have with him, and especially the only semblance of correspondence that his mom had with him was when his cousin Cedric stopped by with a card that was signed by Abraham. Inside the card was $100 in cash and a cross.
Starting point is 00:51:35 But when Elizabeth asked Cedric who gave him this card to give her, he wouldn't tell her. He didn't say like Abraham gave this to me to give you. He said, this is a card from Abraham. Somebody told me to give it to you. But he wouldn't say who had told him to bring it. that should that should throw up some red flags and it did to me and it was going to say i hope that people are like ding ding ding and ding and the red flags build and build and build over time yeah because abraham also stopped coming by to see his children because by this point he didn't
Starting point is 00:52:05 only have a son moses but he also had had a child with his girlfriend centoria brown just like a months prior like this was a newborn and he was seeing his son all the time like him and centoria kind of had a similar relationship to the one that abraham had with his other's child's mother, they were pretty off again on again. But no matter what, he stopped by to see that baby constantly. Absolutely. Now, his cousin Cedric also hadn't heard a peep from him and neither had close friends like Poppy from the food store. Oh, I'm worried. Or Greg from the barbershop. But don't worry. I'm worried. I know how it ends and I'm worried. Don't worry because someone is hearing from him. Didi's hearing from him. Oh, good. We should trust that. He's not gone. Everything's fine
Starting point is 00:52:47 because Dedy will tell you. Yeah, Dedy's going to tell you all you need to know. She would tell anybody who asked for Abraham that, you know, he just needed to get away for a bit from everything because he was tired of people coming around asking for money. And then people were like, okay, like, where is he at? And she was like, oh, you know, I think he's in Jamaica. You know, I think he went to Bermuda. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I actually, I'm not sure, but he just, he needed to go on vacation. I don't know. He's just around. And for a while, that worked because people knew that, like, he had had to change his phone number, that he lugged. to go on vacation, so maybe he just needed to clear his head for a little bit. But then more months roll by. And she says, you know, Abraham actually skipped town because he owed a lot in child support and he was worried about going to prison again. So she starts painting him in this really shitty
Starting point is 00:53:33 light. Because now it's like, okay, but he wouldn't leave his kids. Exactly. It's very clear to anybody. Yeah. She also got to the point where she started telling people that he had AIDS and was away taking care of it and was so embarrassed to be around people that that's why he had run away. Oh, and it gets worse. She then said that he, you know what, actually had raped an underage girl and he was leaving town. So she's making up, in the beginning, she's like, he's on vacation. So we go from he's on vacation to, you know what, he actually raped somebody, an underage girl. Just tarnishing his reputation throughout this town. Now, the stories were not adding up to these people, but about eight months past, before anybody did anything about it.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Abraham's cousin, Cedric, after eight months of this bullshit, had had enough. So on November 9th, 2009, it's like really weird November is like a constant in this story. It really is. I actually just thought of that. But on November 9th, 2009, Cedric called the police to file a missing person's report. And at first, the police felt like Cedric was being pretty helpful. But the more and more questions they asked him and starting to dig a little deeper, he was clearly getting uncomfortable, he was getting agitated.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And finally he just got to the point where he was like, I can't help you anymore. Like Abraham's missing. That's all I know. Not telling you anything else. Wow. So they're like- That's not shady at all. So they found his behavior shady at first.
Starting point is 00:54:58 That's what I was going to say. But then, so they're doing this investigation obviously now because they're like, okay, clearly this man is missing. Something is going on here. And they're starting to talk to people in town and they start hearing this name. Didi, the white lady. Yeah. The white lady came around. He started the fire.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And she's still looking for Abraham's money. even though he's missing. Of course she is. So they're like, okay, and they find out that she's heavily involved in Abraham's finances. And they said, you know, she was like really involved in his life and like interpersonal relationships. Yeah. And they said right around the time he disappeared is when like things started really taking off. Now, then they were able to find out that the reason why Cedric was being so hot and cold with them was because D.D. had the title to his car and was named. on his home loan. He was making mortgage payments to her. Holy shit. And she had the title of his car. So if he pissed her off, he was homeless and carless. How is she doing this? This is outrageous.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I think it was because originally it was an Abraham's name and she must have had Abraham sign something. And then it became in her name. And then she's collecting all these debts. And Sedrick's mother lived in his house. Like he had a home for his mother. So he had like. So it wasn't Just him. Collateral damage that would have happened here. Right. So he was worried that if he went against her, he's just going to lose everything. Damn.
Starting point is 00:56:22 So now it was time for investigators to talk to this DD lady. Yeah. And tracking her down wouldn't be too hard because she was still living in Abraham's house. I was just going to say she's in his house. Yep, yep. That he sold to her, even though there's no transaction, no record of transaction. Awesome. So the police got there and they're like, hey, where's Abraham?
Starting point is 00:56:40 And she tells the police that what she told everybody in the beginning. She says he's tired of getting asked for money all the time. and I think he's just, you know, on vacation right now getting some time to his self. I think. I just live in his house. She said, actually, I've spoken with him a few times via text message. Remember I said earlier? He doesn't communicate through text message.
Starting point is 00:57:00 No. And she said, you know, I'm going to shoot him another text, but just so, you know, it does usually take him like a day or two to get back to me. I think maybe the time difference is. So I'll let you know when he gets back to me. Like I will come to you as soon as he answers. And then they were like, okay, but before we go, we'd like to talk to you about like all these different kind of like financial things. And she was like, well, listen, I was just helping him out.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And here, I have like this to show you that this is all official. And she shows them an asset purchase agreement that Abraham had signed off on. His signature was right there. And it showed that he had sold those three million dollars in assets to her. Damn. It looked legal. But it was strange. They were like, why would he do that?
Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah. And then just doesn't make sense. It makes no sense. So she's like, listen, you know what, don't even bother coming back here. I'm going to come to you to make it easier. Yeah, don't come back. I'm going to make this easier for you and I'm going to come right down to the station as soon as he answers me. Just give me a few days.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Give me a few days to come up with what I'm going to do. Yeah. And they're like, okay. They're like, cool. Sounds good. We'll give you a few days to come up with what you're going to do. Our people will call your people. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:58:07 So in a couple days, they check back. And D.D. still hasn't heard from Abraham. But she said, you know, I thought he was just being a stubing. shepherd brat. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, surely he'll get back to me soon. But then a few days after checking in, the police get a strange call from Abraham's most recent girlfriend. I believe when he, quote unquote, disappeared that he was, they were off again, like they weren't necessarily together. But again, they have this child together. Yeah. So they get a call from Centoria Brown. And she tells them that she just got a call from Didi and that Dedy told her, I need you to do
Starting point is 00:58:44 something for me. If you tell the police that you've seen Abraham recently, there's a $200,000 house in it for you and your baby. Good for Centoria Brown for calling the police. A stand-up gal. What a fucking rock star for just, like, not that I'm saying, like, good for her for not taking that money and just like saying that he was, but a lot of people would. Absolutely. And it's like, so I'm really glad that she was like, fuck you. Sometimes you have to get people collapse for things that That honestly shouldn't really be second nature. But it does. But good for her because she had a brand new baby.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Yeah. I'm sure it flashed her of mine that that's a lot of money that can help. So it's like good for her. I'm glad he had people who actually gave a shit about him. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that just goes to show what kind of person he was. Yeah. Like the women he had children with were ready to back him still.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah. So all Santoria would have to do, said, said Dedi, was call the police and say that Abraham him came by in the middle of the night recently and that you were talking to each other through the window but you got in this fight and then by the time you went outside to go talk to him he was gone vanished the fact that she called this woman yeah and said for her to do this is wild to me yeah centoria is like oh my gosh adi like for sure absolutely i'll do that of course girlfriend that is not strange and unusual at all and then she said hello 911 i'd like to report an emergency. Wow. So D.D. was very evidently up to no good. And then the police start to look at her
Starting point is 01:00:17 past rap sheet full of insurance fraud and like possible arson. Oh, they started to look at that now. That's nice. Yeah. And we're still in the beginning. So, you know, they're working. Yeah. You're doing it. Um, but yeah. So it made them feel worse, though, when they checked some cell phone records to see if they could locate a tower that Abraham's phone was heading off of when he was supposedly sending all of these text messages. Now, they were. Now, they were to be able to, they were able to check Dede's phone records as well. Now, up until April 6, 2009, there were hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of outgoing and incoming phone calls to Abraham's phone because he strictly communicates via phone call.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Yeah. Now, his last girlfriend, Centoria, said he wasn't a texter. Anytime he got a text, I had to read it to him. And then I would help him come up with the response or he would just call the person back. He's out a texter. So why on April 6th did he just go from hundreds and hundreds of phone calls to only communicating via text message on April 6th? That's how. Well, yeah, because in looking at the phone records, they were able to determine that every time Abraham's cell phone hit a tower when it set a text message, D.D.'s phone hit the same tower.
Starting point is 01:01:30 It hit the same tower traveling in the same directions at the same speed. and they were like the phones literally had to have been sitting right next to each other while these messages are being sent. Yeah. D.D. Moore was texting herself and texting other people posing as Abraham to make it seem like he was still alive and well. That's shocking. Why was she trying to make it seem like he was still alive if he was only just on vacation? Why? Why?
Starting point is 01:01:57 So around this time, the police put a tracking device on D.D. Moore's car. Hell yeah, they did. They're keeping tabs on her. So as all the investigators are piecing all of this strange. ass information together, the weird and suspicious behavior only continues. In the beginning of December, Abraham's mother Elizabeth got a letter that was supposed to have been written by Abraham, but it was lengthy and it was detailed and she was like, there's literally no way he wrote this. I was going to say, how are we failing to like just, like, does she really just trying to play this off like that? Oh yeah. And not only that, like, I've seen some of these letters and she's using words
Starting point is 01:02:32 that she thought Abraham would have used, but she's using the N word. Oh my God. Writing it. down and like just saying horrific things she's admitting to like you know these things that he supposedly is doing but like clearly would never have done wow she's an evil son of a bitch she's fucked so then christmas came and and went without hearing a word from abraham so he definitely would have seen his mom on Christmas of course so she's like heartbroken and she's like where is my son and his children and his children absolutely absolutely so Two days after Christmas, D.D. stops by Elizabeth's house. This is Abraham's mother. And she's like, let's go out for a bite to eat. Oh, my God. How dare her? How dare she? Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:03:16 She's like, let's go out for a bite to eat. I know that you're feeling down and like, I want you to feel better. So Elizabeth agrees. And while the two of them are eating together, someone calls Elizabeth. The caller claimed to be Abraham. But Elizabeth knew better because a mother knows her child's voice. Of course. And she was certain this was not her son on the other. line and actually said that to whoever this caller was. And how convenient that she's sitting with Dee Dee. And the D.D. suddenly decided to take her out for. How crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah, so convenient. Crazy. What a convenient alibi. Yeah. So the call is immediately reported to the police. Elizabeth is like, that's not my fucking son. I don't know who that was. Now, the police are able to track the location of the call to a local mall.
Starting point is 01:03:59 They start making their way to the mall and wouldn't you know it? As they're pulling into the mall, getting ready to figure out, like, exactly where this phone is and track down the caller, D.D. Moore's big-ass Hummer pulls into the same mall parking lot and up to another driver. So they're like, well, we're just kind of hanging back here and watch what the fuck goes down. Front row seats to this show. She gets out of her car and into this other car and seems to hand the driver a lot of what looks like cash. Now, the detectives watch this whole interaction go down. And they wait for Dede's hammer to pull back out of the mall.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And then they approached the driver of the car where she was just in. Oh, my God, this is amazing. It's like not even real, but it is. So they approach this man and they're like, hey, who the fuck are you? What's going on? And this guy says, my name's Greg Smith. Hi, Greg Smith. Do you know Greg Smith?
Starting point is 01:04:59 Greg Smith. The barber. Oh, Greg Smith. Abraham's friend. Yeah. Greg Smith says Stop Dedy had paid him to make the call to Elizabeth
Starting point is 01:05:10 Stop it And that she was going to pay him to make further calls The wad of cash that she had just handed him Was $5,000 to call Elizabeth And pretend to be Abraham And explain why he had missed Christmas To call Abraham's mother And pretend to be her missing son
Starting point is 01:05:27 Who you claim to be your friend Mm-hmm Holy shit yep the shitty the wow i just can't that's wow so it was then that the police had they're in the worst species they say to gregg well you're friends with abraham aren't you and he's like yeah like that's like my brother no and they say okay if that's your brother then you want to wear a wire and help us catch this lady and gregg agrees so that he's going to continue meeting with dv he's going to come he's going to completely turn on her and wear a wire now every
Starting point is 01:06:02 single time going forward. Holy shit. Because this was not the only time and we'll get a little further into it toward the end. This was not the only thing that he had done with her. Oh, damn. So the next time Greg meets up with Dede.D. He's wired up. He actually put the wire in an empty sports can drink and just held on to it while he talked to her, which would stress me out because like, what if it clanks. I know, right? What if it clanks? What if it clanks? He was able to ask a little bit more about Abraham. And Didi explained to him, these cops are trying to pin. this on me. They think that Abraham is dead and, you know, now I'm not hearing back from him anymore. And, you know, here's where he could be. He could be doing this and this and yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 01:06:43 But you know what? I have to come clean about something. Abraham Shakespeare is dead, but I didn't do it. That's what she says. The fact that she just fucking was like, you know what, let me just admit this while you have a wire on. Well, not that she knows, but it's just like the one time he has a wire on, she's like, you know what? He's dead. Full confession. Full-blown. Wow. But not full confession. Because according to her, it was a drug dealer named Ronald that had committed this murder. She said Abraham was working with this drug dealer, Ronald. There was this elaborate drug ring that he was involved in. They were moving about 40 kilos of
Starting point is 01:07:22 cocaine. And something had gone down between Abraham and this guy, Ronald, and Abraham had ended up dead. But according to Dede, she was trying to make it seem like Abraham, was still alive because this Ronald guy had been threatening her. He was going to hurt her. So many people threatened her. I know. Everybody's just always threatening Dee. She's always so threatened.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Now the whole story sounded weird as fuck to Greg because anybody who knew Abraham knew that not only was he not involved in drugs whatsoever, he barely touched alcohol. He was not even a drinker. So then D.D. said something that he was just not ready for. He was like, well, like taken aback. Does he know anybody who would confess to a murder? so that she wouldn't have to spend time in prison for a crime that she just simply didn't commit. Do you know anybody who would take the rap for this, Greg?
Starting point is 01:08:10 The boldness of this woman, of this snake, is outrageous. The fact that she is just calling people being like, hey, will you just say you talk to this guy who's been missing forever? And like, hey, will you just call his mother and pretend to be him? Like, she's just, she's so fucking bold. And then she's like, hey, do you know? anyone that would like say that they murdered someone so I don't have to well and so here's the thing what why do you think that Greg knows somebody who would take the rap for murder but you don't that's the thing I'm like if anybody knows someone you do you probably take someone but I'm like she was racist
Starting point is 01:08:46 as fuck like that's literally racist 100% you're being like oh do you know anybody Greg do you know take the rap for murder like go fuck yourself who people would believe murdered exactly that's what thank you it's it pissed me off a lot that's wow so Greg was like you know, I have to think about it because nobody's name comes to mind right now. I'm going to have to think about it. But I'm going to get back to you because I'm going to come up with somebody because, you know, I'm Greg, so I must know somebody that could fucking take for a murder they didn't commit. So after that meeting, he goes back to the detectives and they're like, wow, she sucks.
Starting point is 01:09:18 She clearly murdered him, but like let's fucking play the long game. If Dee Dee Dee's going to play the long game, so are we. Yeah. So they come up with a plan. They're going to send an undercover officer the next time that Greg and Dee Dee meet up. And the undercover officer is going to pretend like he's Greg's cousin. And he's going to tell Dee Dee, you know what, I'll take the rap for you. But I need a little more detail about this first.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Because if they're going to ask me questions about this murder and I did it, I need to know. This is amazing. It's fucking great. It's also absolutely horrible that this had to happen. But it's amazing how they were able to like set this up. So on January 21st, the three of these people have their meeting. Greg and Detective Mike Smith get into Dee Dee's car. And Greg says, oh, this is Mike.
Starting point is 01:10:04 This is my cousin. And Mike tells Dee, hey, like, yeah, I'm going to prison soon on drug charges. I got, like, a pretty lengthy sentence. So I'll take the wrap for this. Like, it'll give me, like, prison credit or something like that. Yeah. And, you know, like, I'm already going to be there for a while. So cool.
Starting point is 01:10:20 But I'm not doing this for free. I need $50,000. Yeah. And she's like, okay. Yeah. I'll give you $50,000 of Abraham's money to say that you killed him. Sounds good. Cool. And he says, okay, I also need to know where the body is. Do you know where the body is?
Starting point is 01:10:35 Because how am I going to say I killed somebody and then not tell them where the body is? And he said, and I need to know exactly how he was killed because they're going to ask me. And I need my story to match up with the manner of death. So that this can be like a cut and dry case. Because like, you know, we heard last week with Elena's story without a body can be pretty hard. It can be tough. Appeals and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It can be tough. So, unreal. If Dede knew where Abraham was buried, it was pretty obvious how involved in this murder she had been.
Starting point is 01:11:04 So this is why they're trying to say this. So she told them, I actually know exactly where Abraham is buried. Wow. He is buried under a concrete slab in the backyard of a house owned by my boyfriend, Sharr. Oh. If you didn't kill him, why is he buried in your backyard? Holy shit. So they say, okay, we're going to have.
Starting point is 01:11:28 have to come by in the coming days and move that body because if the police think that you're involved and then he's found in your backyard it's going to fuck this whole thing up we have to move him like he's in your backyard you fucking idiot girlfriend you fucking what idiot like I mean you're happy that you're a piece of shit so they're like listen we we got to come back up so that you're not linked to this at all and she said oh you know what guys thank you so much I think she also told the officer that he was going to be a legend and that he might end up on the Oprah show. Because, you know, Oprah just has murderers on her show all the time. She loves that.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Yeah, that's totally Oprah's fucking thing. Yeah, that's a Wednesday show. Probably not. For sure. So they make plans to me a day or a couple days later. A day or so later, Greg meets up with Dee Dee again. And this time she hands him a 38 Smith & Wesson and she says, this is the gun that they used to kill Abraham.
Starting point is 01:12:21 And he's like, why do you have the gun that they use to kill Abraham? And she said, well, it is my gun. But Ronald took it from the safe while he and Abraham were arguing inside of the home office. And that Ronald used it to shoot Abraham. And then she led Greg out to the backyard of her boyfriend's home to a concrete slab that had been like pretty freshly poured. And she pointed to some metal tool laying on the slab and said, Abraham, or excuse me, she said, your boy is under there about five feet down. She literally said that.
Starting point is 01:12:56 That sounds like someone who had nothing to do with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Very far removed. Totally. There was also a trailer parked in front of the slab to hide the area from the street.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And then Dedy said that she was going to hitch the trailer to a trucks that night so they could drive the body away. And then she was like, let me show you. I got like a bunch of stuff for you guys. Like party favors got to help you out. Yeah, definitely. She took Greg inside of the trailer and showed him all the supplies that she had gathered for them. There was plastic sheeting, duct tape, multiple bottles of chlorox bleach, a lysol kit, plastic gloves, and a metal tub where she said, you can put Abraham's body in there while you
Starting point is 01:13:37 drive to his body to the new location. You can put him in that metal tub over there. For someone who didn't murder this man, you know an awful lot about transporting a murdered body and you know an awful a lot about the murder and you seem very comfortable with a murdered body of a friend of yours. I'm nodding so hard right now that I think my head is going to just like flip off and like go out that skylight right there. Wow. So later on in the investigation, just to give you a piece of a piece of like information about how fucking horrible this woman is if I already hadn't made that point clear, the detectives were able to get surveillance of D.D. buying all of these items at Walmart. Of course. Because Walmart has surveillance, you fucking idiot. They sure do. Thank God.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And they also got the receipt and it showed that she bought all of these items. And this is what I found when I like found the court documents and I was really excited to find this but also horrified. She bought all of these items and also bought a fucking frappuccino drink from Starbucks. Wow. Like you know those little like ones that you can get like at the grocery store. She bought all of these like every item in the world you could possibly get to dispose of a body. And then while she was at it, she said, you know what? Let me have like a little afternoon tree.
Starting point is 01:14:52 and get a frappuccino along with all of this. This woman is repugnant. Repugnant is a perfect word for her. Are you kidding me? That's a fucking frappuccino. I can't, I can't even. I literally can't even. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:15:13 So just one day later, investigators were able to start digging at that site because hello wires. Because hi. Hi. And after about 48 hours spent excavating the area. they found 43-year-old Abraham Shakespeare lying on his side about five feet below the concrete slab. Oh, that's awful. He'd been shot twice in the chest, and later he was positively IDed through fingerprints.
Starting point is 01:15:35 All of the metal parts of the clothes that he was wearing, like the buttons on his jacket, the zipper on his jeans, any buttons on his pants and a belt buckle that he had been wearing, any metal had been cut off. So that anybody metal detecting in the area would not. have found him. Wow. Wonder why. Wonder why somebody would go to such great lengths to do something like that. That is a lot of lengths to go to. Now, you might be thinking, Elena, that I'm going to tell you that this is the point in time where Dee-D gets arrested. And don't worry, yes, we are getting to that point. But before I get there, I have to tell you that the day Abraham's body was found, buried in the backyard of her boyfriend's
Starting point is 01:16:15 house, D-D drove herself to the police station and told them, she was finally ready to come clean. Oh, I'm so glad that what, you have a heart. But it wasn't her fault, Elena. No, it wasn't. She did not do this. No, she didn't. She said, I've been scared this whole time. But now that you have his body, I have to tell you the truth.
Starting point is 01:16:36 He's not scared of shit. No, she's not scared of anything. She's also, if you watch like anything where she's interviewed, she's the most terrifying human being on the face of the planet. Because she comes off like a lady that you would meet at Sears that would help you find a dress for an upcoming occasion. and you'd be like, wow, that lady was so nice. Wow. But really, she murdered somebody and buried them in her boyfriend's backyard.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Wow. Like the way she comes off, you're like, what? Oh, that's how she manipulates people. Those people can just turn it on. She's incredibly manipulating. So she's ready to come clean. She tells them that the night Abraham died, he and three men had come into her office located inside of the house that Abraham once owned and still lived in.
Starting point is 01:17:17 But at this point, Dedy had already taken ownership. And they walk in and they walk in, and they're, say that they're going to rob her. Now, the man she knew as Ronald went into her safe. He must have just known the password. Yeah, he just went in there. And took out the 38 Smith & Wesson. But as they were going to rob Dedy, Abraham and Ronald got into a fight.
Starting point is 01:17:37 And Ronald just took the gun and shot Abraham twice in the chest. And she explained the story through tears, while the investigators just blankly stare at her and say, we know that you're lying. Like we know that's not the truth. And she starts sobbing at this point. And I can't believe you're not going to help me. I'm telling you the truth and you're not doing anything to help me and I'm scared for my life. And she gets so serious for one point in this interview. And she goes, I was so scared.
Starting point is 01:18:07 They put the gun in my mouth and I peed my pants. And then she repeated, I peed my pants. She's like, I have to be clear about this. She's going this far. I was scared. the detectives were not impressed and they were like, why would they keep you alive if you just witnessed murder, them murder somebody right in front of you? Like, what good are you to have around? And she was like, well, I could continue to pay them. And they're like, well, they're moving 40 kilos of cocaine, so why the fuck do they need your money? And she's like, clearly this story's not working. So she goes, no, none of this makes sense.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Okay, that's not the truth. No, it's not, Dedy. It was my son. Oh my God. It was my son RJ, my 14-year-old son, RJ. He shot Abraham. What? He walked into the office and he saw that Abraham was assaulting me. So he was, he's a good boy and he was doing the right thing and he was protecting me. And he shot Abraham because Abraham was assaulting me.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Again, the investigators were like, we know that your son did not do this, D.D., you did. And she's like, I cannot believe that you are treating me this way. and she just gets up and storms out of the police station, which at that point, that day at least, she could do that because literally as those doors closed behind her, they started writing up an arrest warrant. Of course they did. Now, before getting to the arrest, though, they had one more person that they wanted to talk to. Dee's ex-husband, James Moore. He came down to the station to talk and said that around the beginning of April, which, as you remember,
Starting point is 01:19:41 the last text message, or excuse me, the last phone calls of Abraham's phone end on April 6th. Yes. So sometime around the beginning of April 6th. April, Dedey had called her ex-husband and she said, I need you to dig a hole out on my boyfriend's property so that we can bury some trash and cement in it. Now, I don't know if that's like a thing that people do. She had recently purchased a backhoe for the job and James had said that he had done this before for her. Okay. So I don't know if that's like a thing that people do. I have no idea. But she had recently purchased a new backhoe for this specific job. So he said he did this for
Starting point is 01:20:14 Didi, he came over, he dug the hole for her, and then he left. And he was like, I guess I thought she was just going to put some trash in it and some cement. That's what she told me. But then she called him about two hours later and said, you know what? Fuck, I need you to come back and fill in this hole because we have an inspector coming the next day. And if they see this hole, like it's going to fuck things up. So he said when he got back to the house, it was dark by that point. And he said, Didi looked really tired. Like she had just gotten done doing something strenuous. And that she was also slightly dirty and like sweating. okay and he was like i don't know maybe she was like they had a lot of trash to put in this hole and she was like really going after it he's like wow you really have a lot of trash but he also was like you're my ex-wife and like i honestly don't even want to know what the fuck you're doing like i'm just fill in this hole for you because i think that it's just trash you're shady as fuck i don't know what's going on personally i wouldn't want to do anything for dd especially not dig a hole and fill it in two hours later but you know hindsight's 2020 it truly is so he just went out back and he said filled in this hole that he had just dug hours before.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And he said he didn't see anything inside the hole, except maybe like a little bit of cement, which there was cement over it. Like she covered his body with cement. Holy shit. But it was so dark outside that James said he really didn't know what he was looking at. Well, and I don't think you're immediately going to be like, she probably put a body in there that she just murdered. No, like you know that she's done like insurance schemes and stuff like that, but I don't
Starting point is 01:21:35 think you would think of her as a murderer. She's the mother of your child. I don't think a lot of people think that their person that they were once married to He was capable of murdering someone. Yeah, exactly. So he was like, oh, bye. And then so the police were like, that's very helpful information. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:21:50 You're free to go. Now, days later, on February 2nd, D.D. Moore was arrested and eventually charged with first-degree murder. Her arrest was like somewhat theatrical because literally right before she got arrested, like moments before she got arrested, she was doing an interview with reporters, like right outside of the gated community that she lived in because of Abraham. and she was sobbing and saying that she was a good person who would never kill someone and the truth was going to come out yada yada yada yada yada what and literally less than a mile away the police
Starting point is 01:22:21 were waiting to arrest her murderous ass wow so on november 28th 2012 the case goes to trial now the prosecution had a lot on their side specifically uh gregg who wore a wire yeah And also the undercover officer, Mike Young. But while he was on trial, Greg went into detail about all the things that he had been a part of while being paid by D.D. to make it seem like Abraham was still alive. He testified, this is bananas. Bananas. Bananas.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Bananas. He testified that at one point in time, he and Didi had gone to a comfort inn where she typed up a letter to give to Abraham's mother Elizabeth pretending to be Abraham, another letter. My God. And Greg said she had plastic type gloves on, like picture like cleaning gloves, and that she wrapped her hair up in some kind of scarf thing for extra protection, not wanting to like leave any evidence, I guess. Oh my God. And that she had even purchased a new laptop to write this letter on.
Starting point is 01:23:22 She really went all out. Yep. And the police were able to confirm this because at that point, they already had the tracker on Dee's car and they saw that she was headed to the house. And they were trailing behind her and they actually intercepted this letter before Elizabeth ever got it. Good. Which I'm thankful for because she already had to read way too many things that were not even
Starting point is 01:23:39 from her son. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Unreal. He also, Greg also testified that D-D-D had made him go into a store at one point and buy multiple cell phones and that she wanted him to put one in somebody in Roberts' name. Like put one of these phone in a Roberts name. In this fictional person's name.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Yes. So that she could call herself with the phone and the call would be tracked to somebody named Robert. Clearly she didn't know about how cell phone towers work. Holy shit. So she's just sitting around like fully scheming every last bit of this. Yes. Holy shit. I think she literally was like addicted to like she was having fun with this.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Oh, she liked this. She was getting so much enjoyment out of this. There's no reason to go through this much trouble. No. There's no reason. At all. This is insanity. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Yeah, this is somebody who enjoys this. The search warrant that they got for one of the houses. There was two houses that she got when she stole everything from Abraham. One of the search warrants for one of the houses was like crazy amount of pages long. Eight pages of the search warrant was just jewelry that they had taken. Eight pages of the search warrant was just jewelry and like coach bags. Oh my God. That she had just bought with this man's money who she had murdered.
Starting point is 01:24:54 She had murdered and buried in her boyfriend's backyard. Unreal. So Greg finishes up his testimony. And then the prosecution calls a financial advisor on the stand. like this really like well-known financial advisor, I guess. And he went through all of Abraham's accounts and was able to confirm that every last penny had been given to, quote unquote, given to D.D. Or deposited into her American medical professionals account.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Wow. Then they called a previous personal assistant to Abraham who testified that in the days leading up to Abraham's disappearance, he was starting to catch on to what D.D. had been doing. Oh, that's awful. he had plans to confront her. And this personal assistant told D.D. Like, he knows what's going on. Not thinking, obviously, that she's going to kill him.
Starting point is 01:25:43 But like, come on, man. Right. Like this, you were a personal assistant to him. You don't owe D.D. shit. Oh, that's shit. That is a shitty person. Yeah. I don't give a shit if you didn't think something like this would happen.
Starting point is 01:25:56 That's really fucked. Fucked. Because she's very clearly a dangerous person. If she's very clearly a shit. lady person. Right. And if that's between them. If she's capable of taking like total basically four to five million dollars away from somebody and like swindling them into signing shit and just like all the crazy links she went to and you are like you're going to tip her off. And he knows money makes people fucking crazy. And it's like this woman is clearly only run by that. She's unhinged.
Starting point is 01:26:24 She doesn't give a shit about anyone. That's fucked up. It is. So the prosecution, excuse me, put all of the testimony together and they came to the conclusion that Abraham probably was catching on to what Dedy had been doing and the day he was killed was the day he most likely went to confront her. And she felt like she had no other option but to get rid of him. And it must have gone down in that home office because they were able to find blood evidence in there. But they couldn't find like a full sample because sections of the carpet in the home office, excuse me, in the home office had been cut out. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:27:01 So she even went to that length. She was delusional enough to think that she would get away with murder, probably because her past had shown her that she'd gotten away with screaming people over. Yeah, she got away with everything. And lying and lying for years and years. Wow. But they were able to piece that whole story together based on. And honestly, like for me, I'm like, yeah, that's, I would be pretty confident
Starting point is 01:27:22 and saying that's most likely what happened. 100%. And the defense didn't really have a lot. Yeah, what do you have? To defend D.D. So they went with the story about the guy named Ronald. They said the reason she went to all these great lengths was to make it seem, the reason she went to all the great lengths to make it seem like Abraham was alive
Starting point is 01:27:40 was because she was scared for her own life. No. Yeah. That's no. The jury felt the same no that we felt. That's a no. And on December 10th, they came back with their verdict. Doris D. Donagan Moore was found guilty of first degree murder.
Starting point is 01:27:55 And the judge Emmett Battles looked at D.D. before sentencing and said, quote, Miss Moore, after listening to all. of this over two weeks. Words were said here, cold, calculated, cruel. They all apply. Probably the most manipulative person that this court has ever seen. Abraham Shakespeare was your prey and your victim. Money was the root of evil that you brought to Abraham and now I'm going to pronounce the sentence. And then he dropped his gavel. And he sentenced her to life in prison without the possibility of parole and added on 25 years for the use of a firearm and a violent. felony. Bye, Devi. She is still serving her sentence at the low correctional facility in Ocala, Florida.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Holy shit. And to this day, she is maintaining her innocence and says that she's the one who got murdered. I shit you not. This woman literally said, quote, I believe I was murdered by the hands of the justice. And my life, my life, you fucking narcissist, is what they have to live with. They have to with murdering me. Ma'am, you are still alive. What? No one fired two bullets into your chest in an attempt to live a life of luxury. After stealing all your money.
Starting point is 01:29:11 And you're the one who has blood on their hands. Wow. You were murdered? The things I would love to say. That's outrageous. And she said that it's all her lawyer's fault that she didn't win the case because she had a witness who was going to testify on her behalf, but that her attorney just never called that witness.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Yeah, totally. She also completely abandoned the Ronald story and all the other stories that came along the way and said, actually. Oh, okay. Actually. But wait, there's more. It was Greg who killed Abraham. Oh, okay. It was Greg.
Starting point is 01:29:44 She said, Abraham was having an affair with Greg's wife. So Greg lost his mind and killed Abraham when he found out. And she also said, I'm a people person. I'm a friendly person. I like good things and happy thoughts and good times. I don't plot to murder people for money. Are you kidding me? I like rainbows and butterflies and puppies.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Like at one point she literally said like I like Disney. I like good stuff. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Like a lot of shitty people like fun things. Absolutely they do. You're one of them.
Starting point is 01:30:17 And also I love how you sat in a car with Greg while he was wired up and literally talked about it like someone else did it. The delusion. But now I was sitting there and saying that Greg was just like play acting there. The delusions run. You were just play acting together? So deep in her. Like you can't explain that. You can't be like, yeah, I sat with him in a car and we talked about it.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Like, he didn't do it. Right. When I didn't know he was wearing a wire. But like, yeah. You also can't say that like your 14-year-old son did it when you told everybody that those, like some guy named Ronald did it. And it's like, okay, so you abandoned the Ronald's story. But like, what do you have to say about you just pinning it on your 14-year-old son?
Starting point is 01:30:57 Like, you don't have anything to say about that? She was so delusional. During one of her interviews, the man's name was Detective Clark that was like, he was one of the detectives on the case. She tried to say that, like, she was like, after all of this is over, you and I should rent a hotel room and have a good time together. Like, she thought that she was like going to prove somehow that she was innocent. And this detective who was investigating her for like murder was going to have a good time with her in a hotel room while investigating her for murder. What movie is she living in? It's shitty.
Starting point is 01:31:33 She also was like reprimanded countless times while in the courtroom. She would like nod and in like, she would nod and like shake her head and stuff with certain testimonies. And she would make faces at the jury. Like the judge fucking hated her. She also said that her tongue went into anaphylactic shock. Yeah. Because of a medicine that she had to take because there were so many cuts and like stuff on her. wrists and her ankles that she had to take this medicine, but then the medicine caused her
Starting point is 01:32:03 tongue to go into anaphylactic shock. And the judge was like, I literally don't give a shit. Stop. Oh. You're on trial for murder. Nobody gives a fook. What the fuck? Nobody gives a single flying fuk.
Starting point is 01:32:17 What the fuck? So now just to end this, because I usually like to end this on like the victim side of things, just, you know, there are representatives of Abraham's estate now, like, good representatives who are trying to track down all of the stolen money to see if they can get anything back for like his fucking children. Yeah. And this is crazy. Strangely enough, in 2017, the mother of Abraham's older son, Moses, Antoinette Andrews,
Starting point is 01:32:42 won a million dollars on a lottery jackpot. Stop it. The odds were apparently one in one million 140,000. Holy shit. And she won a million dollars. And she said when she won, she was scared. But that all she wants to do is, pay her bills, buy her son a new truck, and get herself and her daughter a home.
Starting point is 01:33:02 And that's all she wants. Good for her. I'm like, wow. I'm like, I feel like, like, I'm just like weirdly like spiritual and I think Abraham is out there somewhere still taking care of his family. I know. I hope that's the case. He made that happen for you.
Starting point is 01:33:16 There's a little thing there. I like that. So that is the banana story of the Abraham Shakespeare murder. D.D. Moore is the one of the most deplorable repulsive. pregnant human beings on this planet. There's not even words for her. It truly isn't. It's unreal.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Rought. In hell. Yeah. You're terrible. Or wherever. I hope she has hemorrhoids. Yeah. I hope she has a hangnail every day.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Yeah. I hope that her contract, I hope she wears contacts and I hope that they're so dry every single day and there's no eye lubricant available. I also hope that like she always has to sneeze and it gets right to that point and then she loses it over and over and over again. So her nose gets really stepped up. I hope she always has a headache like in her temple. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Yeah, those are the worst. Yeah, I hope that. And I hope that she like falls asleep and gets into a really great awesome sleep and is having a really great dream. And then she wakes up every single time. She has a falling thing where she just. Every time. Yeah, where your heart is racing. Yeah, I hope that.
Starting point is 01:34:17 And lots of other things. Yeah, for sure. Bye, D. Wow. D.D. Bye. So yeah, guys, that was wild. I'm actually very like happy to have my mind be rid of that.
Starting point is 01:34:28 because I was full of hatred for Deity Moore for the past couple of weeks. So with that, we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it. Weird. But not so weird that you befriend a lottery winner to just simply not be their friend, but to just steal all their money and then murder them and then make up lies about the craziest things and then continue to lie for the rest of your life. Definitely don't keep it that weird.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Diti's the worst. You suck.

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