Morbid - The Torture & Murder of Cordell Richards

Episode Date: January 23, 2023

On March 4th, 1999 the body of Cordell Richards was found in Fort Walton Beach, Florida. The man had been absolutely brutalized. He was tied to a tree, beaten, burned, and had his throat cut. The medical examiner notices something strange though; he found maggots present at the scene but some of them had been charred. This meant that the man had likely been burned after his body had already begun decomposing. Why would the killer(s) come back after the fact? And better yet, who had done this to the 31 year old father of two?Thank you to the lovely David White for research assistance! References:Associated Press. 1999. "Teens charged with veteran's death." Lakeland Ledger, March 19.—. 2000. "Teen emotional as lawyer describes scene of slaying." Ocala Star-Banner, February 16.—. 2000. "Video shows suspects returning cleaver." Ocala Star-Banner, March 18.—. 2002. "Court reverses death sentence." Sarasota Herald Tribune, November 8: 7B.—. 2000. "Girl, 17, convicted in killing." Sarasota Herald-Tribune, February 18: W6.Gainsville Sun. 1999. "Accessory to murder charges are dropped." Gainsville Sun, September 23: 1.—. 2000. "Son of minister gets death sentence." Gainsville Sun, May 17.Hawkins, Erik. 2020. Florida Teen Trio Torture, Bludgeon And Immolate Man Chained To A Tree. February 27. Accessed December 6, 2022. https://www.oxygen.com/killer-couples/crime-news/kristel-maestas-ronald-bell-murder-cordell-richards-torture#:~:text=When%20Fort%20Walton%2C%20Florida%2C%20police,with%20his%20wrists%20also%20bound.Kristel Rose Maestas v. State of Florida. 2021. 1D19-1767 (First District Court of Appeal, State of Florida, April 20).2003. New Detectives: Case Studies in Forensic Science. Directed by Bertrand Morin. Produced by New Dominion Pictures. Performed by New Dominion Pictures.Ronald Lee Bell, Jr. v. State of Florida. 2002. SC00-1185 (Supreme Court of Florida, November 7). Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

promised you fancy pants and we deliver. You got the fancy pants. They're really fucking tight. Yeah, hold on to your butts. Hold on to your butts. So this is fucking insane. I can't believe we're at the Gramercy Theater right now. I'm not even going to do this because that's scary.

I can see all you doing that. This is really scary. But thank you so much for having us, New York. This is amazing. Seriously. Thank you guys so much. Our first show was in Providence and it was like Wicked Small. Was anybody there?

Hey, look at that. Look at that. So it's so weird to see a room filled like this. It really is. But we're from Boston, in case anybody didn't know. So I felt like we had to do a Yankee suck joke. I told her not to. Yeah.

So I'm not going to. But do you see that I just did a Yankee suck joke without doing a Yankee suck joke? We have no leg to stand on, but Yankee suck. But see, I love New York personally because this is where John and I got engaged. I think he's right over there. He's so cute. There he is. I've actually only been to New York once before this and it like really wasn't that fun. But trash is going out tonight, so we're going to turn that around.

She's taking the trash out. Yes, hell yeah. So Elena actually had a wicked good idea on how to start the show. I did. It came to me in like a fever dream. So I was like, okay, the Gramer Sea Theater, there's going to be some kind of like weird, haunted history here. It's like kind of old. I think it's from like the 30s. It's real old.

Someone must have like died near here or something. There's got to be like a haunt happening here. And I was like, the lights are low. It's going to be spooky as fuck. I'm ready. I researched. I was like, yes, nothing fucking happened here. There is, there either, I think it must be ghosts like handing out NDAs or something like that.

They're like, don't tell anyone. because nothing happened. Sorry about it. We don't care. We're happy to be here. It was the thought that counts. I tried. I really tried.

Yeah, like I said, we're happy to be here. This is fucking insane. This is amazing. So thank you so much for having us. We have one more thank you. We don't know where she is, but our listener, Mars did our makeup today. She was featured in Vogue, and she made us feel beautiful. So wherever you are, thank you, Mars.

She's amazing. We love her. So should we just dive right into this? Let's get it. So I don't know if you noticed from my subtle cue, but we are doing David Berkowitz, son of Sam. So that's not him. That's not him. That's him.

Ash is going to set a little scene of New York in the 1930s. Actually, it was in the 70s. Close. I mean, time is non-relevant. A couple decades off, it's fine. You guys were going insane in the 70s. There was like a blackout where 3,000 people were arrested. Somebody was, like a mountain climber was scaling the side of the World Trade Center.

You were wild. Gangs were like planting bombs in department stores. Not awesome. You guys, it was chill as fuck. It was fine. Yeah, everything was cool. Now, a quick note about this doucheback. He initially claimed to be driven by like hallucinations, demons, all that shit.

Dogs. Yeah, dogs. But then he just admitted that he just hated women and that's why he did all that. So fuck this guy. He's basically another Dennis Raider. He's like, yeah, he's the OG Dennis Raider and we're going to treat him as such. We're going to shit on him. So, yeah, we're not going to call him, you know, he's not, we're not going to call him son of Sam, that bullshit.

He named himself. That he made himself up. He's David, and we're going to call him that, just like Dennis. And I was just thinking, Studio 54, Ash could go there with those pants tonight. That's true. Yeah. Studio 54 was like hopping around this time. Yeah, there you go.

I'm pissed that I missed out on that. So the reason I was thinking of the 1930s was because in the 19th, In the 1930s, young Betty Broder was a struggling woman just trying to make shit happen in Brooklyn. Our wheel. Jinks, buy me a cook. Obviously, this is during like the Great Depression, and no name has ever fit an era more perfectly because shit was fucking depressing. She had worked since she came out of middle school. She had to help put food on the table.

She had eight siblings that she was basically taken care of. Her parents were Jewish immigrants. They came to America to form a new life. They were William and Gussie Broder, and they were from Poland and Austria. She was 19 years old when she met a fine-looking fellow named Anthony Tony Falco. She described him as rugged, tall, handsome, and very strong.

Ooh, honey. That's how I describe John. That's how I describe Annie. She's not here, but... But we love it. They met at a dance in Prospect Park in Brooklyn, like an outdoor dance. Apparently that happened back then, I don't know. I love that.

She said, she was quoted as saying, on Sundays, you would go with your friend to the park and just dance. Me too. It was a wonderful time. Everyone was happy, and there was no crime. Sounds pretty pure. So they hit it right off, and since shit sucked at the time, they were like, let's just get married and suffer through this bullshit together forever. So they got married in December 1935 And it wasn't until 1939

After they struggled their way through That they saved enough money together to open a business This business, business, Bishnish The Bishnish. This bishnish was a fish market Because of course it was What other business is there? Whatever.

And they were about to nail that whole American dream thing. They were like on their way. The white picket fence, the fines. The fish. The fish. That's all of it. Making dreams happen. And then a month after opening this beautiful fish market, Betty found herself pregnant.

Who do you think was in that womb? It was Rosalind. Rosalind was in that. Close. Rosalind Falco was born November 14th, 1939. This is son of Sam David's sister. She was born within the year, and Tony took off, after this. Awesome.

Because he was not ready to raise both a fish market and a human, apparently. That's a lot of pressure. He was like, I don't want either one now. I'm done. He's like, I'm good. Too much. So not only did he piece right out after Rosalind was born, but he went and like shacked up with another woman.

So like, fuck Tony. So now Betty's left to raise a child and a fish market. And unfortunately, the fish market was the thing that suffered. I guess fortunately, that's the thing that suffered. I was going to say not the child. Yeah. I'm glad she picked the child.

I didn't think that one through. But yeah, so apparently, you know, the fish market suffered. It closed this door to bankruptcy. Eight years later, Betty's still on hard times until she meets a dude named Joseph Kleinman. Joseph was a business dude. He was slinging real estate from Long Island. He had a shit together.

He was good-looking. He was suave as fuck. And he was also married. Nobody can have it all. you know. There's always a catch. And in his own words, he was, quote, saddled with a wife who wouldn't hear of a divorce. Oh. Like, I'm sorry. Was this wife mandatory?

Like, was someone like, nope, you need to have this wife. You weren't saddled with a wife. You chose a wife, you fucking twatwaffle. Twatwaffle. That's a good one. Yeah. I liked that. They come to me in a dream. So Betty Wend got pregnant again. with the married dude by Joseph and Joseph was like nope not happening so according to Betty he said you're pregnant not me I want to keep seeing you but I'll be damned if I pay a cent for that child

support great guy awesome dude yeah it's like fuck you dude and also I was thinking about this I used to do this both ways when I was pregnant when we were out in public I'd be like oh my god we're pregnant we are pregnant it's beautiful and then as soon as I wanted like uncompromised sympathy from John. I was like, I'm pregnant, not you. I'm going to put that in my back pocket for some day. You know, you can have it both ways, ladies. So she was like, all right, I'll do it.

So June 1st, 1953. That's your anniversary. Not 1953, but... To be clear. I'm old, but not that old. That's when John and I got married, June 1st, yay. But also it was a bummer of a day on 1953. It kind of was because

Richard David Falco came into the world with the most confusing name ever. So he was Joseph Kleinman's kid but his last name was Falco which is the name of the guy who left her when she got pregnant with another child and he's called David but his name is fucking Richard.

You lost me. Fucking David. I'm like is this son of Sam? He's David. This is David Berkowitz we're talking about. I don't know why he has like all these five like Richard David Falco Oh, who's that? So whatever, David. David was given to a couple from the Bronx

who couldn't have child of their own. Yeah, Bronx. There they are. That's the couple. That's Nathan and Pearl Berkowitz. So now we're going to call him son of Pearl. Because that's stupid, and so is he. So Nathan and David, Nathan and David,

they weren't really bros, like right from the ghetto. They did not bond. They were kind of tension-filled. Nathan liked to tell David that he was a mistake. Yeah, that's like, it's not great parenting. It's also like you made this choice, bro. Like, you adopted me. Yeah.

That's the other thing. I wasn't mistake. You literally went out and got me. Like, that's ridiculous. Like you stopped me out for this job here. So they were not close, but David, I'm sure you're all socked. Socked. It's our first big show.

It's the grammar C. Okay, I'm nervous. But David did have a very weirdly close relationship with Pearl, which is not shocking. But it's not his mom, mom. No, it's not his mom. I mean, it's still fucking weird. It's not his mom, mom. Well, I don't know why I just fucking ran to his defense.

Yeah. I'm like, it's not his mom. All right, David, it wasn't weird. It's fine, Elena. Not be mean to David, okay? So David was apparently big for his age all the time. just forever and always. He was a little chunk-a.

Yeah, he, like, stills big for his age. Spoiler-old. He's, like, 70 or something. Shubby behemus. Yeah, spoiler-led, he's still alive. Yeah, that's coming. Don't worry. He was also super hyperactive,

but people said he was good-looking, which, like, I wholeheartedly disagree. Yeah, that's a hard pass for me. Hard pass. Nope, no, thank you. Hard pass. I think, didn't something describe his lips as something really cute?

Somebody described his lips, and I'm not going to get the word, right? but I think it was like succulent maybe or like satisfying or like hot and I was like, what? Ew. I don't know what lips you're looking at. I feel some type of way about that. Those lips are from the fish market.

Yeah, no. That just came to me. That did. That was good. I didn't write that shit down. I like it. Yeah, those are some fish lips for sure. He was also, so that dude

you saw him with that big stupid face, he was also a bully, which I'm like, what? You weren't bullied? You are the bully? Whatever. He was jealous. He had a violent streak in him.

At four years old, a kid, this isn't funny, it's funny though. Because fuck that guy. At four years old, a kid dropped a rock on his head? Like a big rock? It must have been kind of a big rock. It's noted. It's notable.

I thought that was him for a second. That was like, gross. There he is. Yeah, see, there's this big stupid face. There's his succulent lips. This is, those are. they are not I don't know

I just don't know I just don't know I just don't know why'd you do that so yeah this after the rock got dropped on his head someone I'm around there

he started asking about his birth mother and Nathan and Pearl were like oh yeah about her she died when she was giving birth to you spoiler alert not true

that is untrue not true at all and a very awful thing to tell your child. So he immediately started thinking, I killed my mother, which is like, that's a bummer. Maybe they shouldn't have told him that. Maybe he could have, like, stopped the

following events. Yeah. I mean, either I don't think so. I think he just hated ladies. Yeah, you know, it happens. Because he also hated ladies because weirdly no one wanted to kiss that. So, yeah, and that's apparently our fault as a gender, I guess. I don't know. So when he turned seven,

things are not going awesome for him with the rock dropped on the head. and all that. So he turned seven and he got hit by a car. Yeah. Large bummer. This resulted in a head injury, as I'm sure you can tell. And now things I were researching kept saying, it's unknown if he suffered any long-term effects. I feel like it happened.

I'm here to say he suffered some long-term effects. Confirmed. Like a lot of long-term... I can diagnose, it's fine. this is when he started becoming really aggressive. He even killed his mother's pet bird. With poison. He did.

Where the fuck did he find poison? I got like bit all over everybody. I'm sorry. I don't think they would have noticed. First row, this is for you. So yeah, he killed his mother's bird. And the reason he killed Pearl's bird was because his mother was paying more attention to the bird than him.

It'd be like that sometimes. It'd be like that. Just kill your mom's pet. You'll pay attention to you. Yeah. Fine. Then he started burning bugs and committing casual arson. Is casual

arson a thing? For David, it was. I think it was fairly casual with him. He would just be like, he was just out and he was like, I'm going to light this on fire. There we go. I don't have planned to happen. So it's set something upon fire. He said a lot of fires. I have a number for it somewhere in here. It'll come up. It's like 1200, isn't it?

Yeah, it's like, yeah. It's up there. A lot of fires. So in 1965, Pearl was diagnosed with breast cancer. And by 1967, she had declined steadily and passed away. This devastated David, which like, that's fine. Right, Felicia. I get it.

But he thought it was like a personal attack. And he also thought it was like another woman abandoning him, which is like, that really wasn't her fault, bro. Yeah, you can't call her out on that one. Yeah, it's like, no. And then Nathan, his father, remarried in 1971, to a woman who thought David was a big weird asshole. And she was correct.

She was. She had a hunch. Yeah. So they moved to Florida and the woman was like, yeah, let's not take that big weird asshole with us. And so David stayed in New York. It just became a full-blown nightmare at this point. So in 1971, he joined the Army.

I think that's his Army picture. Sure is. That's his Army picture. I got a little happy hands there. Yeah, too soon. That's fine. We were just getting you ready. At the time, we were in the thick of the Vietnam War, but David was actually stationed in Korea.

In Korea, he lost his V-card. Ooh, sassy. You go, David. He lost, I'm pretty sure it's the only time he had sex, too, so. I feel like that would be horrifying in the middle of a war in Korea. That'll fuck you up. Well, and he came out of that experience with not a T-shirt, but a lousy STD. So, it's not a good experience.

So everyone who knew him said that he was changed by his military service. And not for the better, like he didn't become a more well-rounded individual. He became like a bigger asshole. One thing that everyone said that was he was a great shot. He was like a really good marksman. In fact, I think he ended up being able to shoot at like a sharpshooter ability, which unfortunately we'd wreak havoc later in life. He also did a ton of drugs in the military, like cocaine, acid.

I mean, he was experimenting. He was doing all kinds of things. And actually, last podcast on the left, I don't know if anybody listens to him. I love them. They said it best. And I had to quote Marcus Parks because he said he was so close to being groovy. But it's like you take drugs and you can go so far or you can take drugs and become like the Manson family. And that's where he took it, unfortunately.

It gets out of hand. Yeah, it got out of hand. Unfortunately, he was honorably discharged in 1974, which is rare for these guys. I feel like they're always dishonorably discharged. Yeah. But at 21 years old, he was going back to NYC. So what's interesting is that people who knew him said he went into the military being like, yeah, war, let's do it. War, war, war.

And then he came out of the military and he was like a pacifist. Like he was like, this is terrible. Everybody just loved and let's smoke weed together. Okay. Which is, that sounds great. You're like, all right, high five. Let's do it. Everybody just love each other and smoke weed.

This isn't particularly weird, but what's weird is the fact that he then went and brutally murdered several women in his leisure time. So, I don't know where those two things connect, but he came back being like, peace, love, and then he just started murdering people. It didn't work out. Yeah. So he got an apartment in Yonkers. That always reminds me of Tyler the Creator. I don't know if anybody listens to that, but... I don't know.

Do you want me to wrap it for you? Because he has a song called, Yeah. Yonkers. Yeah, I do. No, no, no, no. Oh, fuck. It's too dirty.

My grandpa's here. I'm not, I'm not wrapping that in front of my grandpa. Yeah, my dad's right over there, by the way. There he is. Ma let him out tonight. Yeah. Molled him out of the cage tonight. So, yeah, he got an apartment in Yonkers.

He was doing jobs as, like, a security guard. a cab driver, a mail sorter. When he worked at the Bronx Post Office, he worked the overnight shift, and people said he was super introverted to the point where they didn't even know he worked there. We all know someone like that. Yeah.

And like, oh, that guy quit? He got hired here at one point? Like, what? Who was that dude? Was his name Joe? What was that? Yeah, and when he got, when he left, they were like, yeah, we don't know who that is.

So like, bye. We'll miss you. Yeah. Bye, David. His neighbors at his apartment said he was a total dick, which I'm very surprising that he was not like a wonderful neighbor. He constantly called the police on them, or had the police called because he was fighting with his neighbors. He was just like a big tool. For example, Craig Glassman, who was a corporal for the Westchester County Sheriff's Emergency Force, so fancy. Big dude. Yeah, big dude. Like important. Yeah, not in size.

I don't know. In importance. He lived on the floor below Berkowitz, and he got a few threatening notes written by David. He really liked to write. He loved writing notes, this dude. Yeah. And not well, as we will see.

So he found out at one point during this time that his mother was in fact alive, and he ended up reconnecting with her and his half-sister, Rosalind. He visited them, like, on and off for a while. once he realized that she had given him up for adoption because she was bumping uglies with a married dude and that the married dude was like give that kid away he was like wow that sucks that's not a good story and you kind of suck so then he started thinking his mother was

impure because she had slept with a married man and that's the reason he was conceived and yada yada yada so it's just like another checkmark on the i hate women thing um so to him he's like he's like you're filthy and he stopped going to see her That's weird. So it's super rude. It is. So he kept going with his pyro ways as well. Oh, this is the number, guys.

This is the number. It was more than that. He set over 1,500 fires in New York City between 1974 and 1977. How do you do that without getting caught? I'm not asking for a friend. I'm not. How would one do that? How do you go about that?

Yeah, like, let me just get my pen on. How would you do that? I don't know. no math, but that's like a lot. Yeah. That's a busy schedule of committing arson, I feel. He like scheduled that out. Yeah, he did.

He set fire here. Hey, Siri. And he did. He wrote in all his journals about it. And at this time, he really, this is when he dentists, like, real hard. He referred to himself as the Phantom of the Bronx. That's stupid.

I don't like that one. Like, fucking stupid. I love the chubby bohemist. I love the chubby behemoth. That's the only thing. thing I know about. So he's the Dennis of the Bronx at this point. In 1975, he met with people who were, like, I don't know where he met with these people. He just like met people that were into the occult. And he's like, oh, hey, let's talk about it. And he was like, I'm into it. So he had a

thing for horror movies growing up anyways. So he was like, obviously these two things meshed together. So he was really starting to get into like the satanic Bible, demons, all that good stuff. On Christmas Eve, that same year, 1975, he struck for the first time. He took a huge, this is so weird and like random. He took a huge hunting knife. It had a four inch blade, went out into the streets that evening, and at around 6.45 p.m., he saw a random woman just leaving a grocery store.

He had already decided, I'm looking for a woman tonight, I'm looking for a woman who's alone, and I'm a murderer. That's just what I'm going to do. So he just walked up to her, she's carrying her groceries, and he just started stabbing her like a million times. He hit her in the mid-back. He was hitting her in like the like shoulders. She had a big puffy coat on.

So luckily it like helped to stop some of it because he's an idiot. And this woman was never identified, which is crazy. She just like ran off into the night. And David claimed she just ran like scream, looked at him and then just ran away. Which I'm like, I don't even know if everything happened,

but okay. Well, he later told his psychologist, he didn't understand why she screamed so much. Are you fucking kidding me? He said... Like, have you been stabbed, dude? Yeah, it's not awesome. He said, quote,

I wasn't going to rob her or touch her or rape her. I just wanted to kill her. I don't know why she was overreacting so much. Why did she fucking scream so much? And he said, like, it scared me. I didn't like it. Like, I'm so sorry, bro. Later that night, so after this whole thing, he stabbed another girl who was 15 years old.

Oh. Yeah, her name was Michelle Foreman and he stabbed her six times. Oh, my God. She fought him like crazy. Like tooth and nail. Good on her. She like fought. She screamed.

She yelled. And then she ended up running into a nearby apartment for help. She survived the stab wounds to her torso, her head, and she had a collapsed lung. He stabbed her in the head. head. He stabbed her in the goddamn head. I didn't know that. Yeah, it happened and she survived. So many people survived being shot in the head in this. It's like, kind of

mystifying. It's alarming. Yeah, I don't know what was going on. It was something in the water in New York. It was something. You were all like bionic. I don't know what's going on. I mean, it's great. I'm glad. But she later said that he, quote, ran with a sluggish gait. Well, because he was fat. Which, like,

of course he did, the chubby bohemist. So a month later, he moved out his current apartment and into a rental house in Yonkers again. His landlords were Jack and Nan Kasara. They owned a German Shepherd. And German Shepherds can be loud and they bark because they're a dog. But they're wicked cute. They're like he love German Shepherd.

Yeah, they're cute. He claimed this loud dog was possessed by a demon and it was ordering him to kill young women. But then he claimed another dog did that too so he was full of shit. He was just like any dog that was around him making noise, he was like, Damon. And then he was like, I need to kill people because that dog's telling me to. You would think it would be cats, because cats are, like, kind of shitty. Because cats are assholes.

Right, like they are demons. Sorry if you like cats. Yeah. I just lost half the room. I mean, cats are fine. Cats are fine. I'm allergic. We're not going to do, because at our first show, I made the horrible mistake.

Oh, God. I was saying that one of the murderers was, like, really into birds. And I was like, I don't know. Just don't be a bird person. kind of weird and people were like, fuck you! I love birds! And I was like, I'm just so it's okay. Birds are beautiful. We're sorry that the

birds are beautiful. Cats are beautiful. We're all beautiful. We love animals. Love what you love. But yeah, he was just, he was bullshit. Like no dog is telling you. Dogs are just like, I love you, be my friend. They're not like, go kill that woman for me. I need blood. That is a cat's job.

Yeah, they are. So he only lasted three months in this place. And he moved out and into 35 Pine Street in Yonkers. Yonkers. In this new place, he had a new neighbor named Sam Carr. There he is. That's that guy. Sam.

Yeah. This neighbor had a black lab. That's my favorite dog. And it's, yeah, I love labs. Me too. I had a chocolate lab, and he was fat and awesome. He was. Yeah, he was.

His name was Harvey, this one. Oh. Yeah, look at him. David hated him. Of course. Who hates a Labrador? Like, how do you hate a lab? Fucking David.

So first, he tried to kill Harvey with a Molotov cocktail. So I was, like, looking this up. What's Molotov? A Molotov cocktail. It's like an explosive. Oh, what? Yeah. To blow that motherfucker up.

I thought it was, like, green poison or some shit. Sure. It's an explosion? It's an explosion. Wow. I thought it was green poison. I don't know why I thought it was green. I like that it was green.

I don't know. Like, I just felt like it was green. You know what, like, a vision came to me? I feel you. Here's the shocking part. It didn't work. That did not kill Harvey. I'm glad.

Harvey lived. Yeah, right? Yay, Harvey. Yeah. He was also a bionic dog. He was drinking the same water. Yeah, fucking Harvey. Well, when that didn't work,

David shot him. Yeah, I told you. He sucks. He does. this is the infamous son of Sam shit that happens later David would say that the neighbor Sam Carr this is like real like convoluted I was going to say conflicted that's not the word it's complex too it's complex too it's all comes to say words um so this is so he was thinking that the neighbor Sam Carr was possessed by demons and possibly Satan he wasn't sure he looks pretty

chill to me he was like maybe some diamonds maybe same Satan will Man, I almost said semen. Maybe all of that. Maybe he was possessed by semen and I had to do it. I mean, I feel like he was possessed by semen. That's probably what happened. Stop saying semen. Seamon.

Seamon. So anyways. Bye. Yeah, so that's it. Seamen. He said that... John, is she okay? I'm broken.

I'm sorry. He said that son of semen. Sam was the son of the demon that possessed Sam Carr. And that demon was Harvey. Doesn't he look like a demon? He does. He's like, hey, guys, what's up? Most demons are like, oh, hey.

Can I have a treat? Yeah. Super psyched. Every demon that's ever come out is like, oh my God, hey, I'm so excited to meet you. So in May 1976, he drove to Florida to visit his. dad in Boynton Beach. On his way back, he veered off and went to Houston, Texas to visit an old friend from the army. His name was Billy Dan Parker. Three first names is never good. Yeah. Billy Dan Parker really doesn't matter that much. I'm allowed to say that because I have

three first names. She does. Yeah. He, so he spent a few weeks with Billy, and then he was getting ready to drive back to New York City. So he told Billy, I feel a little, I just like really, dude. He was like, I feel a little nervous. I feel kind of vulnerable driving back to New York. Like, Homeboy, you were in the fucking Korean War. Like, really? Come on. In Korea during the Vietnam War. And then he was like, best friend.

Will you buy me a gun? And Billy was like, of course I will. Of course I will buy you a gun. We are best friends. Yeah. Which, like, my best friend Debbie is here tonight. And Debbie, I love you so much. But I will never buy you a gun.

If you just show up out of nowhere and you're like, I love you. I feel vulnerable. Will you buy me a gun? I'm going to be like, no. No. I'll get you pretty mace. That's it. I have like five friends here and we're going to stick to like buying each other lava lamps and craft beer books wherever you are, Lindsay. So, so he did. He bought him a gun on June 12th. They purchased a charter arms bulldog 44 caliber revolver, which I don't know what that is, but I'm glad you said the gun first. Well, obviously you tell the fucking story. But whenever I say like gun names, I'm like a point 44. A point four.

At point 22. I'm like, I know nothing. It's fun. And then he also bought him three boxes of ammo. They purchased this at the Spring Branch Jewelry and Load Pond Shop. You know the place. You've all been there. Yeah, obviously.

Apparently, this particular gun is really heavy, and it's really hard to shoot accurately and handle. Like, it has a crazy kickback, I guess. I've never shot it myself, if anyone has, you know. Now, it wasn't like he didn't have guns. That's the weird thing about this. He's like, can you buy me a gun? Like he didn't have one?

He had guns. He made it seem like he was so vulnerable. Vulnerable as fuck. He had a Commando Mark rifle, a Glenfield rifle with a 4x14 telescopic site, a charter arms AR7 explorer shotgun, and a 12-gauge Ithaca, Deer Slayer shotgun, all at his apartment.

I feel like you were just speaking a foreign language. I was. So this was just like the cherry on the gun, cake for him. On July 28th, he ended up quitting the security guard. Just that security guard, he quit him. He quit on him. He's like, I quit you.

I just can't quit you. The security guard job. And he took one as a cab driver, which is real fucking creepy. Can you imagine finding out later that he drove the cab that you were in? No, I don't want to think about that at all. That's wild. Yeah. Nope, not into it.

And he didn't use the cab driver thing, which is weird. I would have thought he would use being a cab driver to like pick people up and do awful things. That's like very traceable though. It is, I guess. I suppose. Like en route. Have you seen the bone collector?

That shit isn't traceable. No. Yeah. Has anyone seen the bone collector? That's a good fucking movie. Call me out 2020. He like razored the little locks. He razored them down so when you went to take the lock up, it would slice your finger.

Never getting in a fucking Uber again. And it scared the shit out of me. Every cub that I got into, I was like, are there razor locks? I just want to make sure. So later he said that demons told him, as they do, to get a steady job. At least they were trying to help a brother out. They were like, get it together. Get it together, bro.

Let's make some money. So at first they're telling him like, go out, find women, and murder them. And now they're like, get a steady job, motherfucker. Like, get it together. So he got a job installing air conditioning ducts because that's what the demons told him to do, apparently. when he left in the evening in search of victims he would go down the fire escape instead of the elevator because he was trying to avoid being noticed

which I'm like that bumbling human jerk off just like scooting down a fire escape he's like real subtle like just take the elevator how many people you see in an elevator that you're like whatever what's up and this like this little piece of information is like not important at all but I just couldn't stop thinking of David Berkowitz being like, I'm so subtle, like bumbling down on a fucking fire escape. Like falling down the fire escape.

Like, imagine looking up at a building and you're like, what the fuck is that guy doing? Like, what is going on? Like, I would watch him for the rest of the night. I'd be like, where is he going? We need to watch this. Be high on your radar. Yeah, let's do this.

So on July 28th at around 1 p.m., Donna Loria was sitting in her friend's car in front of her apartment in the Bronx. She was only 18 years old. She had brown hair. She was an EMT. She had like everything going for. What we'll find out is that he was really into girls with brown hair, long brown hair. So I'm sorry.

I'm good. Long brown hair. I'm good. You're good. Yeah. I'm good. We're good. All right.

And he was basically doing that because he was going for women who looked like his adoptive mother and like his actual mother as well. That lady. Yeah, that lady. Just to remind you. See, all the slides. It's fine. Spoiler alert. So Donna Loria is in her car with her friend.

Her friend is 19-year-old Jody Valenti. They were just sitting, chatting, waiting to go inside. Donna's appearance arrived home. Her father, Mike, went to the car, told Donna, you know, you shouldn't be sitting on the car for that long. Let's come inside. And, you know, it's dark and dangerous, just being a good parent. And she was like, sure, dad, whatever.

And literally, he walked into the apartment, and he said he closed the door behind him and immediately heard gunshots. Which is like the most terrifying thing ever. I can't even imagine that. David had walked right up to the passenger side of the car out of nowhere. Like out of the fucking darkness comes this fat fuck coming at you. He's dressed in a denim jacket like an asshole.

Why is that like an asshole? He's just an asshole. Like I don't know. Those are trendy as fuck right now. Because do you wear a denim jacket to a murder? I don't go to murders. I don't go. I don't know.

I wouldn't be noticed. I was trying to think of what, I mean, I'm not going to try to think of what I wear to a murder because I'm not planning on murdering anyone. But it wouldn't be a denim jacket. I don't know. I don't hate that. I don't know. Sorry.

I hate it. Call you out 2020. Call you out 2020. And he gets in, like, they said he gets in this like lame-ass, like low firing position to do it. Like, he's like a fucking sharpshooter, even though he's right next to the passenger. Like, okay, dude. he pulled out the bulldog revolver from a paper bag

yeah he used to carry the shit around a paper bag that's weird it's not your lunch dude again like an asshole like an asshole and he fired the gun five times through the window yikes then he just drove away so he just fired the gun five times pieced out of there Donna was hit in the neck and her father ran to her side from upstairs which like hurts my soul in a way i can't even tell you that's so sad Jody was hit in the thigh. She's screaming, but she was alive and able to see David. So she gave police a description of David.

Donna ended up passing away that night. Jody lived. So this is his first murder. That's them. Yeah, that's them. That's Donna and that's Jordan. So on October 23rd, 1976, David headed to Queens and randomly saw two people hanging out in a four.

red Ford Galaxy, as one does. He noticed one of the women had long, dark hair, and he was like, yep, that's the next one. So it was 20-year-old with her. He didn't even give a shit who was with her. He just saw her and was like, well, both of you are out. You'll do. So it was 20-year-old Carl De Naro, and Carl was about to enter the Air Force, and was up on, he was out on a date with 18-year-old Rosemary Keenan.

Rosemary's who he saw with the long dark hair. obviously, her father was an NYPD police officer. You picked the wrong girl. Except it did not help. No. But David followed the car. So he sees them in the car. He follows the car to the corner of 33rd Avenue

in 159th Street. And when the car parked, Berkowitz pulled in his car behind them. So he's just creeping all over them, like a big fucking asshole. And David shoots through the car five times like he did through the window he struck Carl in the head and Keenan was able to run screaming out of the car so he didn't even hit the woman and she survived

when she saw David when she saw that David had bailed like ran from the scene she ended up getting back in the car and drove Carl to the hospital which like whoa like marry that girl like holy shit rose Mary that girl yeah wife that girl up because she He survived. Yeah. He's adorable too. I watched a documentary and he's the cutest thing. I think there's pictures in the next slide of Albee.

Only of the people that didn't survive. These are the people, the victims. But he survived and he got a metal plate put in his head, which is fun. So November 26, 1976, Donna Damasey, 16 years old. 16. That's so young. A baby. She was with Joanne Lomino.

She was 18 years old. They took a bus to Manhattan. They were going to see a flick. It was around midnight when they started to walk home. They saw a dark-haired, ugly-mugged man following them. In a denim jacket? In a fucking denim jacket. Yeah, and they were like, why would you wear that?

Asshole. Why would you do that? And they were like, you know what, let's just like try to lose him. That's weird. And they thought they had because they didn't see him anymore. So they hung out on Joanne's front step. while she looked for her keys in her purse, you know, all that fun stuff.

Suddenly David shows up out of nowhere and begins firing that revolver just right at them. Like he would go like close range, like right up to people and just start shooting. That's terrifying. Yeah, he was fucked. Joanne's parents come running out to see the two girls shot on the front steps

because they're like, what the hell? A bullet had gone through and exited Damazzi's body. Lomino was able to move and both Damazi and Lomino survived. So far, so far he sucks at this, like a lot. I know they said he was a good aim and I'm like, but are you? I'm glad you're not.

I think it was the stupid gun choice. I think it was his gun choice because it was heavy. It didn't have good aim. It had like a weird kickback. So I think he was just not choosing the gun. I don't want to give him like. Well, I'm glad that he did it. Let me tell you what you should have done, David.

But no. So they survived, but Lomino was paralyzed from. the waist down because a bullet severed her spine. Oh my God. Yeah, so he sucks, but like, whoa. So shortly after midnight on January 30th, 1977, yeah. Everybody was like, woo. Feel the spook.

26-year-old Christine Freund from Austria and 30-year-old John Dial left the wine gallery in Queens. They had just enjoyed a late dinner. They saw the movie Rocky. Yeah, at the Continental Theater. It was a fucking night. So they had been dating for seven years and had just gotten engaged. Oh.

Uh-huh. They had just got into their car and we're sitting in it just to let it heat up. You know, we all do that shit. Like, don't do that shit. And it was just like a minute. It was freezing outside. He's just warming the car up. Suddenly they said it was like glass around them just exploded.

Christine was shot in the head and chest. People immediately called 911 that saw this happen. She was rushed to St. John's Hospital and she died. That's so sad. There's Christine up there. In the middle. Yeah, March 8th, 1977. Virginia Voskirchen.

I'm sorry if I say that name long. It's tough. I'm sorry. You won't Naperville, me. I know it. I know you won't. Too soon. I'm going to start, like, twitch.

Hashtag too soon. So Virginia was a 20-year-old junior at Columbia University. She was from Bulgaria. She left the Forest Hills subway station. David, yeah. Yeah. Whoop, whoop. All right.

David was already following her, which I hate. Every time I hear like he's following them, I'm like, oh. Because I'm so paranoid when I walk. I'm like, who is that? What's going on? Like, I'm constantly knowing what around me. It's true. My head is on like a swivel.

wherever we are. I'm like, are you okay? Poor John, whenever we're out, I'm like, what do you think that guy's doing? What do you think he's planning? Is he going to murder us? I don't know. You're prepared as fuck.

I am. I'm very prepared. I have pretty mace. So he took out a gun. She instinctively put her books up in front of her face, but it went right through the books and she was shot in the head. Oh, my God.

That's like the purest thing ever. I know. You hold up your books. It's like, oh. That makes my heart hurt. I know. And she fell into the bushes. She ended up dying later at St. John's Hospital.

Now, this was the first time that the police were able to connect these guns used in this one to the guns used in the Donna Lauria murder. So finally they're like, this might be the same guy. And again, at this time, you know, the late 70s, they had not like totally coined the term serial killer yet. That was by Robert Ressler and I think 81. Mind Hunter. Look at you.

Look at me just pulling that out. Yeah, I think it was 81 when it was like officially coined, but I'm pretty sure they've used it before, but who the fuck cares? So March 10th, 1977, NYPD commissioner, Michael Dodd, held a big press conference, announced the whole thing to the city that like, there's all these shootings happening. They're connected. There's some madman.

He's probably fat. And it's a... He's coming and he's shooting up everybody. We're wearing denim. He's wearing all fucking things. He's wearing a denim jacket. It's just, so people went insane. Like people, it was like crazy panic, uncontrollable.

Businesses were losing tons of money because people weren't going to bars anymore. They weren't going to la discos or anything. Like, people were just not. Wait, but do you know who was making money? Hair stylists. Hair stylists were making money. Because everyone was like, let's be blonde. It's true.

Blonde wigs. were selling out everywhere, like ashes, scalp was selling everywhere. Hair salons were dying. Every woman was getting her hair dyed blonde. So that was booming, so good for them. Now, April 14, 1977, Operation Omega was officially formed to act as the task force to catch him,

which I'm going to be honest, that's the lamest fucking name I've ever heard. Hello, Operation Omega. We're here to get Son of Sam. And they didn't. They really didn't. Operation Bohemoth. They were not effective at all. So this included over 300 detectives,

and it cost nearly $90,000 a day to run. A day? Yeah. Shit. It cost the taxpayers, $90,000 a day to run. Only three days after the formation of Operation, Oh, my God. April 17, 1977.

20-year-old Alexander Esau was dropping Valentina Soriani off after a late movie. It was like 3 a.m. when nothing good happens. They're on the bottom there. The bottom. I don't know. My lefts from my rights. Yeah. So, spoiler alert. So it was 3 a.m. They were parked along the Hutchinson River Parkway.

I don't know what that is, but I'm sure you guys do. It's like a lover's lane, isn't it? Sounds good to me. I don't know if it is anymore. You said that was such authority. She's like, fuck you, that's a highway. I'm pretty sure that's a lover's lane. That's really romantic, I feel.

Sorry, I'll leave. I love it. Bye. I just love when you say things with authority. You're like, that's a lover's lane. I never know what I'm talking about. I know it. I just know it.

Well, suddenly four shots are fired into their car. Both of them were hit twice each. A neighbor called police and Suriani was already dead when they arrived. S. S.L was shot in the head but survived. he ended up passing away later. This was the first time a letter was found at the scene. And oh boy, it's a letter.

It was addressed to the head. That is shit. It's stupid. It was addressed to the head of Operation Omega, Captain Joseph Borrelli, and it said, Can you do it in a dumb voice? Oh, fuck. All right. We didn't plan that.

We didn't. Hold on, ready? Yes. I am deeply hurt by your call. That is perfect. That's fucking gold. I am deeply hurt by you calling me a weeman hater. I am not, but I am a monster.

I am the son of Sam. I am a little brat. When Father Sam gets drunk, he gets mean. He beats his family. Sometimes he ties me up to the best. of the house. Other times he locks me in the garage. Sam loves to drink blood.

Go out and kill, commands Father Sam. You can stop now. It's hard. But no, it's fun. Okay. I didn't want you to feel under pressure. I'm in his own. I'm in his own. Behind our house, some rest, mostly young, raped and slaughtered.

Their blood drained, just bones now. Papa Sam keeps me locked in the attic, too. I can't get out, but I look out the attic window and I watch the world go by. I feel like an outsider. I'm on a different wavelength than everyone else. Programmed to kill. This is evolving. Programmed to kill. However, to stop me, you must kill me. I am the monster. Beelzebub, the chubby bohemist. I love to hunt. Prouling the streets looking for fair game, tasty meat. The weemen of

queens are prettiest of all. Mr. Borrelli, sir, I don't want to kill anyone. No, sir, no more. I must honor thy father. Do you need a breath? Holy shit. You just did the damn thing.

That voice evolved over time. It was like, here, there, everywhere, but you get it. So that was kind of, that it did evolve into Margie a little bit. Oh, shit, that's what you said. I was like, no. Margie and Estelle.

We're here. Don't worry. I feel like Estelle led me these pants. Oh, Estelle did lend you those pants. So, hold on. Let me get out of Margie and. It is so hard. And the chubby bohemist.

So over 45 psychiatrists from Belleville Hospital. Belleville. Bellevue. Bellevue. they analyzed this letter because they were like, what the fuck is this? You need to look at this shit. They thought he was possibly a paranoid schizophrenic. They were like, maybe.

They profiled him as a loner who had trouble forming and keeping relationships, particularly with women. Spot on. Now I'm going to be real, real here. I feel like my four-year-old could have deduced as much from even littler than that. Like I don't think that took a whole, lot of like education and psychiatric ability to be like he's probably a fucking loner who hates

women i think he's a little crazy he might be off his rocker like that was not groundbreaking maybe buy buy a fancier frame for that degree of yours because you really used it of course shit i'm really angry at these belview hospital people you feel some type of way about all this yeah fuck that so of course the media was covering this like crazy as they do and now david started using this to his advantage, just like Dennis did later. An investigative reporter named Jimmy Breslin became the target of David's bullshit. People who, so people knew Jimmy Breslin.

He was a really talented, well-known investigative reporter in New York City at the time. He was writing for the New York Daily News. In fact, in 1970, he was attacked by a member of a crime family because he had written an article about this family, and they were like, well, we didn't like that. We're going to murder you now. And they ordered a hit on him at a family-owned restaurant.

He survived, but he was like bloodied and concussed. So Jimmy was like used to being in the thick of this shit. So he was like, I'm not scared of this motherfucker. Well, on May 30th, 1977, he got a letter. And it was handwritten. It was received at his home, which is real creepy. That's terrifying. The postmark indicated it was mailed that same day that it was received.

and it was from New Jersey. New Jersey. Yeah. Woo. So the back of the envelope had blood and family, darkness and death, absolute depravity,

44, written on it. It's like a spell. It really is. Double, double, toilet trouble, blah. And it's like, stop trying to make 44 caliber killer happen. It's never going to happen. Don't. He's trying so hard to.

name himself, he's like, just name me. The letter inside said, Oh, she's back at it. Back at it. Back at my bullshit. Hello from the gutters of New York City, which are filled with dog manure, vomit, still wine, urine, and blood. Hello from the sewers of New York City,

which wallow up these delicacies when they are washed away by the sweeper trucks. Hello from the cracks in the sidewalks of NYC. and from the ants that dwell in these cracks and feed in the fried blood of the dead that has settled in these cracks. Jimmy Breslin, I'm just dropping you a line to let you know that I appreciate your interest in those recent horrendous 44 killings. I also want to let you know that I read your column daily and I find it quite informative. Thanks for noticing me. Tell me, Jim, what will you have for July 29th?

Now this last line was because Donna Lauria was killed a year ago, at that day, July 29th. So he was referencing that, and he was referencing that he was going to do an anniversary attack. It never actually happened because he's dumb. Now, David wrote this letter, not because he was like, I'm going to be creative and I'm going to do this.

He did the dentist thing, and he said, you know, Jack the Ripper wrote letters. So I think I should wrote letters because he's such a Jack the Ripper type. That really is like a Dennis kind of thing to do. Yeah, like he was referencing the, 1980, 1988,

Jack the Ripper. Future. You remember from the 80s? You know. In Whitechapel, it was crazy. No, the 1888 letter, the from hell letter that Jack the Ripper wrote, and he sent a piece of kidney with it.

At least he spared them that. Yeah, I mean, that letter was ratcheted up quite a few notches. David was just like, hey, I like your stuff that you're right. About me. So it failed. So he brought, so Jimmy Breslin was like, okay, this is weird. So he brought it to the police.

They looked at the other letter that was left about being a chubby behemoth. That other one was sloppy and crazy, and this one was neat and crazy. So they were like, I don't know. He was having a good day that day. Yeah, he was feeling it that day. So this one also had like symbols and shit on it,

and it kind of looked professionally done. So the New York Police Department allowed the daily news to actually print part of this letter in an upcoming article. and they told the killer in this article, they were like, please surrender, just turn yourself in. I don't know what,

he thought that was going to worry. They're like, please just stop. Cut it out. He's going to be like, oh, shit, all right. I really like your work, so I'll do it. Now that you've asked so nicely. Yeah, you know what, that was nice. This just made everyone in New York City panic more

because they published this letter and then were like, please stop killing everyone. So everyone was like, ah! So they weren't exactly adept at that whole like keeping things close to the vest to avoid public panic thing that they're pretty good at now. Breslin was actually really worried at this point, so he sent his wife and daughter to live in Long Island until David was caught because he was worried at this point. With Teresa Caputo.

Exactly. She wasn't alive yet, but whatever. Yes. She could have been alive. It was 1977. I don't know how old she was. Oh, shit, yeah. She probably was alive. She was alive.

I digress. I digress. So June 10th, 1977, David's former landlord Jack Casara, he got a weird note from Yonkers, and it included a photo of a German shepherd and a note saying, Dear Jack, I'm sorry to hear about that fall you took from the roof of your house. Just want to say, I'm sorry, but I'm sure it won't be long until you feel much better, healthy, well, and strong. Please be careful next time. Since you're going to be confined to your house for a long time,

let us know if Nan needs anything. Sincerely, Sam and Francis Carr. So, like, this sounds like nice and normal and, like, caring, right? Jack didn't fall from a fracking roof. Like, that never happened. He was like, what are you talking about? And he was like, what? Like, what?

No, that didn't happen. And he also didn't know anyone named Sam or Francis. So he looked them up in the phone book, because that happened back then. Anybody remember phone books? The yellow pages. So he googled them and they came up. And he called them. He called Sam and Francis.

It was Sam and Francis Carr, the son of Sam, Sam Carr. So they were like, what the fuck? We don't know you. Why did you send this letter? And they were like, no, we don't know you and we didn't send a letter. So they were like, that's weird. So they all met up together with Jack's son Stephen to discuss this weird shit that was happening. When they got together, they looked at the photo, the German. Shepard photo, and the cars told Jack that their dog and their neighbors' German Shepherd had been shot.

And they said they thought that it was the chubby bohemist that had shot him. Yeah, they were like, there was this weird chubby behemoth living in our building, and I think he did it. Direct quote. Yeah, literally. So Sam and Francis were like, oh shit, we had a tenant that hated our dog, too. And they were like, oh, my God. They actually thought, they were like, all right, so this is the same guy, clearly.

So they all realize they're talking about David Berkowitz. So they call the New York Police Department and they're like, he is the one. They're like, they got your guy. Like they solved this case. Let's just give them credit because they were like, it's him. And the NYPD was like, nah, we're not sure. Probably not.

So two months later, it was actually Nan Kasara, who was Jack's wife, who said David was likely the son of Pearl. He called the NYPD and he was like, this is the guy I know it. And they just were like, no, I don't think that's it. The officer that she talked to informed, they informed her that there was another officer that lived next door to David. And he was like, that's weird. He had received like weird demon-filled letters from him.

And they mentioned the cars and the Casaras. But like, I don't think that's the same guy. It's unrelated. I feel like there's probably a lot of people. thinking dogs are demons and maybe mentioning the Casaras and the cars, I don't know. They're like, it's New York, it's in the water.

I think the cars and the cars and the cars and the cars are just fuck shit up and everybody's just thinking that they're demons. So they were like, yeah, no, don't worry about it's fine. So shit's starting to heat up at this point because no one's believing these people. And now they look in, so they're like, okay, enough people have told us this

that we'll at least look into this. So they looked into the address of where David was living. and they get the car registration for him. They find his Ford Galaxy registered and his license had been suspended. I have no idea why. It's probably just because he's dumb.

Too many parking tickets. Yeah, too many parking tickets. Honestly, same. Yeah? Not the license suspended, the parking tickets. And not the murder or anything. And not the murder. We have nothing in common.

Just parking tickets. That's it. And denim. And denim. I do like denim. I do like denim. Yep. So they find out this.

They get his registration. They get his address. They see his license. spend it. They have all this like letters and shit. They do nothing with this information. And then two weeks later, two more people get attacked. Drop the fucking ball.

So June 26th, 1977, 17-year-old Judy Placito was on a date with Sal Lupo and they were dancing at the Elephus in Queens. That sounds awesome. The Elephus? I don't know. It just does. I'm here for it. They had a blast. Like they were just dancing

the night away. It was three fucking a.m. when they were just sitting in their car afterwards being like, whoa, the other case, am I right? And Jody got worried, and she literally said, quote, that son of Sam is really scary, the way that guy

comes out of nowhere, you never know where he'll hit next. As soon as these words left her face, the glass in the car exploded, shots ring in, Placito didn't realize it, but she had been shot three times. times.

My God. Sal ran back to the nightclub to get help, and she survived. Yes. Because he's a shitty shot, even though he was a good shot in the army. July 31st, 1977, 20-year-old Bobby Villalante. This is a really sad one. This one's the saddest. Well, not the saddest.

They're all sad. Yeah, everything's sad. But this one's like just a super bummer. So Bobby Villante was taking 20-year-old Stacey. I said, stathy. Good job. I son of Sam did for a second. I was like, Stacy Moskowitz out for their very first date.

Bobby's mom, being the smart lady she was, was like, you be careful. Son of Sam is out there. I'm worried. And Bobby legit told her, Ma, don't worry, Stacey's blonde. And he said he was going to stay out of Queens that night, too. Yeah, and he was like, he hasn't struck in Queens yet. Like, we're good. She's blonde.

We're in Queens. Like, it's all good. It's not happening. So they went to a movie, then they drove along shore parkway in Brooklyn. Which I think was a fucking lover's lane. It's not a highway, I know that. Authority. And again, apparently because he had also not killed in Brooklyn,

so they felt comfortable enough that they were going to take a walk through the park together. I know. I'm like, don't do that. It is. Yes, exactly. It is. It is. Stop walking in parks.

Don't do it. Just stay in your house. Fresh air. for the dead. It is. So everything was fine while they were walking through the park, actually. Nothing really happened. They get back to their car however, and immediately

shots ring out through the passenger's side. Bobby was shot once and actually thought he was dead or paralyzed, but he was able to crawl out of the car. Stacey had been shot once in the head. David walked away casually, like just was like,

cool, I did it by. He's such an asshole. He was a fucking asshole. People who saw this all happen and heard this all happen ran over. Bobby survived, but he was blonde. Blind. He was blonde in his left eye. He was blind in his left eye and lost most use of his right eye too, which that sucks. Stacey died at the hospital two days later, and she was the final victim.

Later, Bobby said that when they were walking through the park, he looked over and saw this chubby behemoth standing in the park, but he obviously never for one second was like, that's probably the son of Sam over there. So he was just like, I didn't think anything of it, but I definitely saw him in the park. Now, a witness told police that they saw a man take a ticket off his car in the area that night and like huff and puff and rip it up and then just throw it away.

So when police look back, they saw that the ticket had been issued to one David Berkowitz. They're like, we know him. They were like, shit, that name's coming up a lot. We went out to lunch that day after. we talked about him. Well, yeah. You know. What, what kills me is that they tried calling him because they were like, we need to talk to him, but not because they were like, uh, it's weird that you're in these places and that you're writing these letters and killing dogs. They were like,

oh, he might be a witness. Wrong. So they were like, okay, but they couldn't get a hold of him because he was like, I'm not going to answer the NYPD's police. Like, his cell phone rang and he was like, decline. Strangely enough. He sent a quick, like, away message. Like, I'm busy right now. Try a later. So during their attempts to find him to ask about the shooting as a witness, they got in touch with Sam Carr's daughter. Now, everything I read said that Sam Carr's daughter's name was wheat. Me too. I thought it was wrong.

I kept being like, no, that's not. I was like, there's no way. So Wheat Carr. That's pretty cool. It's a cool name. I like it. Yeah. Bread.

I don't know. I love bread. Gluten, I don't know. So she said her father and Jack Casara were pissed. at the fact that they gave information about David that no one had followed up on. And, you know, everything weird is happening here. No one's doing anything. The detective that talked to her was Detective James Justice.

Yes, that's his real name. He had no other choice but to become a detective. Like, if your name is James Justice, you either have to be a superhero or a detective, and it's pretty much the same thing. He was typecasted. He really was. Like, you can't be any, like, can you can't be any, like, can you, just sell ice cream being like, hello, I'm James Justice.

They're like, wow, you're not doing much with that game. Yeah, fuck. So he was worried, so James Justice was like, okay, I'm listening to this, I'm taking this, I'm absorbing it, I'm being a detective. He was worried about going over Operation Omega's heads by investigating this too far.

But they weren't really doing much, so I think it's fine. And he was like, but they're not really doing anything. Like, no one's following up on anything. But he was like, you know what, I'm just going to look in the databases that we have and just see what's going on. So he saw that the description of David and the driver's license stuff, all of it matched with all the descriptions that were being given by like witnesses and all that good stuff. Then he started seeing the reports about the dogs, the letters,

all that shit. So he brings it to another officer and he's like, maybe we should look into this. And the other officer was like, no, no, I don't think so. He was like, I'm busy that day. And so he was like, he doesn't really look like that sketch. So let's just forget it. And they were like, cool. So suddenly there came reports that an arson had been committed on Pine Street, where he lives. Deputy Glassman, the one who David had written threatening letters to when he lived underneath him, he came forward during this, and he said that 22 caliber bullets were put outside of his door, and then the fire was lit there so that the bullets would eventually go off.

Oh, my God. It was put out luckily before that happened. But then he showed the officers the letters that he had received from David, and he was like, these really look like the letters that Jack Kasara got. So side note about this. Craig Glassman died in a car accident in 1991. Bummer. But he had told every family member and all of his friends that he knew that David was the son of Pearl.

I love that we're not saying so. Yeah, I almost said Sam, but I was like, fuck that guy. That he was the son of Pearl, son, damn it. And the police ignored it. So he died without ever knowing that, like, he made a difference in this thing, and that's a real bummer. Yeah, but don't worry. It comes back. So at this time, after the arson, Sam Carr went to police headquarters and was like,

listen, why the fuck aren't you doing anything with all of this information that everyone's giving you? And why is Operation Omega not only the stupidest named shit I've ever heard, but why are they not doing anything? Like, what are you doing? So they were like, yeah, I don't know, go away. So now it seems like somebody in the police department was like, maybe we should check into this. So now officers go to 35 Pine Street, where his apartment is.

They see his Ford Galaxy. And they're like, there it is. Those were, like popular, huh? They were, yeah. A couple people out of us. the cars. Sounds rad. So without a warrant, they look in the back seat and they see an army bag with clothing, underwear, gross, a toothbrush, and a rifle, so the basics. Officer Ed Zigo looks into the glove compartment and finds a letter. Of course. And the letter is written to the

Suffolk County Police Department. I don't have the exact words of this letter so it can't tell you what it said. but it basically was saying that he was going to be committing an attack in the Hamptons at some random disco, which is like, Let the people party. Let the people in the Hamptons party. So he was like, oh, no. So that's enough to get a search warrant when he's like, I'm going to kill people in Hamptons at a disco, period.

So they were like, we can get a search warrant now. So they got one, and a crowd is gathering because they're like, what are these people doing over here? So the officers actually asked somebody in the crowd to park in front of David's car to like block him in. And so that happened. A SWAT team surrounded the apartment and then somebody walks out of the apartment. And that person is Craig Glassman. And they all attacked him.

And he was like, ah! So then they were like, no, no, no, reset, reset. So they reset. Get back in formation. Super smooth operation. Because he was like, no, I'll just go over here. Hold on. And so at 10.30 p.m. on August 10th, 19... I feel like I'm spitting so much. I don't know if you can all see this. Can anyone see? Don't address it. It's not happening. I can't help it. I keeping like, blah, la la.

It's just the lights are making it spit. So it's fine. So at 10.30 p.m. on August 10th, 1777, they watched. And David just sauntered out of his apartment. He was wearing a button up. blue striped number. I think there's a picture of him. There he is. That dumb ass. Skipped the denim that day.

Yep, he did. He just went a blue number. Took a latest fashion advice. He did. He was like, oh, nope. So he was carrying a brown paper bag. Not lunch. No good.

So he gets in his car. He starts up his engine. And Detective John Follatico, excuse me, just walks up to the car, taps on the window, like, dirt, dirt, dirt. and he has his gun drawn. And he's like, hey.

Hey, what's up? And David looks up at him and just says, quote, you got me. How come it took you so long? That's like some Scooby-Doo type shit. And while I agree with that sentiment because, holy shit, it took them a long time to get him, he's still a raging twat.

Twat waffle. Twat waffle. So he was brought to the police headquarters on Center Street, and the mayor at the time, Mayor Abe Beam came, and he walked right up to David and thought he was a detective. So he was like, hey, brother, and just like, shook his hands. What were they doing back then? And they were like, no.

Wrong. So that was a big snafu. I just think that's funny. It has nothing to do with the story, but it was funny. So at 1 a.m., the mayor spoke to the media and said, we have caught the son of him the son of pearl yeah

David when they showed a photo of him on the news people were like yeah that's him that's him like what because he's just like mhr

they're like wow that sucks it really does look like he's making that noise it's always it's just groaning he probably breathes heavy from those fish lips. I know. That's gross.

Sorry. I'm taking you with me down here. You're painting a picture. I'm making this dark. So this is kind of funny. The first detective who spoke with him said that he was like, quote, talking to a head of cabbage. So accurate. Like, yeah, I get that.

I get it. Like 100% that is a head of cabbage. Cabbage. He's like, he's like, it gave me gas. It was awful. And so he initially said, I went in there to talk to him and I was like raging. I was pissed off.

I was like, this is an evil motherfucker. And he's like, I came out of here being like, wow, he's real pathetic and I kind of feel bad for him. He said, David sat down, told him the details of every single attack very calmly. He was just like, yep, let's talk about it. Which, if you'll remember, Dennis Raider did the same fucking thing. I feel like Dennis Raider was just like wanted to be son of sense.

I'm just saying. They're distant cousins. I'm just saying. They're distant cousins. Dennis and David. So on August 11th, he was charged with second-degree murder for Stacey Moskowitz. A psych aval was ordered because he was talking about dogs and demons and shit. Because of those letters. Yeah, they were like, okay, we should look at you.

Now, photos at this time were released of his apartment in, wow. And by the way, it still stands. Now it is 42 Pine Street. So if you want to go, be like, whoa, that's crazy. It was a studio apartment. He had a scrapbook that he kept of all his crimes because that's normal and okay. And it was like newspaper clippings,

all the articles written about him. He just, like, loved reading about himself. There was a dirty old mattress on the fucking floor. Why is there always a dirty old mattress on the fucking floor? There was like one bulb just hanging from it. I bet it was swinging and like making, yeah, yeah, see, I saw it was swinging. It was swinging. It was definitely swinging. And I feel like it was like doing that like, like, I feel that.

I don't have any fact of that, but I feel like it. And then there was dirty sheets covering all the windows. Ew, ew, ew. So he just like filled his house with just dirt and filth and nastiness. Yeah, and they said there was like empty cartons of fucking milk. Ew, okay. It probably smelled fucking rancid in there. 100%.

He is a head of cabbage. Like that is for sure. And then there were several holes in the wall. Hidey holes. Exactly. Wow, we are like connecting this to Dennis in so many ways. He had Heidi holes too. But he would write things next to these holes.

Things like Williams and I live in this hole. And I have several children that I'm turning into killers. Just wait till they grow up. Like, okay. Yeah. So I don't know. That's just what was going down there. And they were like, that's probably fine.

You know a band wrote a song? And those are like the part of the lyrics. Oh, yeah. And their name is morbid death. Hell yeah. Morbid. Hell yeah. Morbid.

So media coverage was crazy. And there was all this hoopla that people are like, you're transforming him into a celebrity. you know that happens every time. But it's like human nature. Like we don't want to know about these things. It's like a fine line here. But at that point they were like,

we're really turning him into a celebrity and he likes it. Like he clearly liked it. He would grin at cameras like he did in that fucking backseat. And but out of this, they did spur into existence the son of Sam laws.

These laws made it so that the state of New York could not take money from criminals that earned the, from like deals and shit for five years. So the money that was seized by the state had to go to the victims, which, yippee. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah.

So that's good. So no trial happened because he confessed. And he was like, I don't want to go through a trial. It's over. It happened, man. It was the demons. Which it's like, okay, I'm sure the victims would love for this to be over. Yeah. So he didn't go on trial.

June 10th, 1978, it was his sentencing. And Stacey Moskowitz's, Stacey Moskowitz's, there we go, Mother Niso was there. So she stood up and screamed at him in court, which like, yabish. I would do the same thing. I always think that, I'm like, I always want the guards to just, like,

hesitate when like a family member will, like, lunge at a murder. I'm like, just take a beat. Just get one in. That's all. Then you can do your job and like moral and all that. But like, just one. Just let him get one. So she was screamed and yelled at him in court. He loved it. He was like grinning.

He's a fucking asshole. Didn't he call Stacy a name too? Oh yeah. He kept saying as she's yelling, crying, sobbing behind him, the mother of the girl that he killed, he's sitting there saying, Stacy's a whole. Yeah, this guy sucks. And he would say, he wasn't yelling it, he was just going, Stacey's a whore, Stacey's a whore, and he kept saying it loud enough so people could hear him, but so he was like, me, ma'am, ma'am. What an asshole.

So, he's an asshole. So then he's doing this. He's like, zee, he's a little, or, zing his little, and then he just goes, and just runs towards the window. Like, out of no question, everybody was like, what? and he knocked over like 10 guards on the way. Oh my God. This fucker had like superhuman strength, which sucks. So they stopped him, but the sentencing was delayed because they were like,

well, this is a crazy day. So on June 12th, he was resentenced again for six consecutive life sentences. Hell yeah. Yes. Now, I bet you're wondering what he's like in prison. Well. He was a pain in the ass. He tormented

Sorry Oh my God, I'm really sorry It's okay, you go girl There he is There's that fucker So Isn't that so stupid He's like, I'm hopeful

And look at him He's like That's a dumbass mustache too That is a dumbass mustache Fuck that mustache And now he's like I'm the son of hope I've transformed myself

Like you can fuck right off sir So he was of pain in the ass. When he first went into prison, he tormented other inmates. And he was just a huge problem for the guards. And then he got attacked by another inmate.

I was going to say, he got his. Yeah. On July 10th, 1979, this inmate used us a homemade, a homemade, a handmade. A homemade. A homemade. A prison-made shank. A prison-made. A handmade shank to slice open

David's neck. I know. And he got 56 stitches, so he, like, did a good job. Yeah. He has, like, a gnarly scar, which is good. Which, like, yeah. His fuck off. So he had all kinds of reasons for his bullshit when people would talk to him, you know, like Satan, cults.

Dogs. He said at one point, at one point, he said that the song, Rich Girl by Hall and Oats, inspired him to kill. All I can think of is that Gwen Stefani song song. I do, me too. If I was a rich girl. No, no, no, no. no, no, no, no. But that's not the song.

That's not it. I was like, why would that make you want a murder? It's even worse. Like, Hall and Oates inspired me to kill? Like, what? Okay. Okay. Cool. So then after all that shit, he landed on the, no, it was the dog possessed by Satan that told me to kill it. So FBI agent Robert Resler, who, yeah. I think that's who Jonathan Groff is supposed to play in Mind Hunter. Jonathan Groff.

Woo-hoo. Doesn't it suck that that's, like, indefinitely on hold for a third reason? Right? It's not fair. It's indefinitely on hold for a third season. What the fuck, Netflix? I know. I volunteer as tribute to direct the next season of Mind Tunchin.

I'll just come and hang out with you. Someone give me funding, and I will do it. So, yeah, so he coined the serial color term. he believed that David was just faking all this insanity bullshit. He met with him three times as shown on Mine Hunter. And he told, so David told Resler, I invented the story of the demons in possession. It's like, yeah, we know. Yeah, like I needed an insanity defense.

He was just gearing up for it. So he told him he just hated women because he was rejected by his mother and girls didn't want to sleep with him. He's like, I hate women because I'm ugly. It's my fucking fault. Because I'm chubby. Because I'm a chubby behemoth. And I wear denim. I'm really harping on that.

Yeah. I see, I got you fired up. I am pissed about it. So he also told him that he was, he had been planning to go to the funerals of the victims. That's so fucked. Yeah. Which is like, you're not insane. You're planning this shit.

But he couldn't find where the funerals were. And he was also worried because he's fucking idiot. He's like, I couldn't find him. And MapQuest wasn't working yet. at a graveyard, dumbass. But he was also scared that people were going to see him and that it was going to like, he was like, I don't want to get caught yet. So he didn't go, but he said he tried to find their gravestones.

Ew. You have him to do that. It's very you. And he also hung around diners and places that police hung out because he liked to listen to police talk about him. Like, what a narcissist. Yeah, gross. Get a hobby.

He also would go back to the scenes of the murders and assault. and he would relive them again. He literally said that the blood-stained concrete and chalkout lines got him going. Ew. Like, sparky big time. Yes. Yes. Guys, we are one tonight.

We're on a wavelength right now. I feel it. So, yeah, so that's gross. And he literally said that the psychiatrist, he said when psychiatrists came to him, all he had to do was slip demons in Sam Carr into the conversation. and they would be like, oh my God, you're crazy. I'm sorry. Like he knew. He was like, if I just say diamonds and dogs and Sam Carr. I love when you say like that, a diamond. If he was like, if I just say all this shit, they're eating out of my hands. They think I'm crazy.

Like, it works. So he knew. So fuck that guy. Some people are like, I think he was mentally ill. And I'm like, no, I think he was just a dick. He admitted it. He's like, no, I'm good. I just hate women. So psychiatrist David. Dr. David Abramson, he didn't believe his bullshit either, and he's a pretty well-known psychiatrist. He said he invented it. So they each wrote each other to letters, because he was like, I want to get into his mind, I really want to see if he's crazy, I want to see if this is real. And after they talked, he stood by the fact that he was like, he's a bullshit. He said, sure, he's troubled, for sure. And he said, like, a crazy life, he had some head injuries that could have, like, fucked with him.

But he's not insane. He's just a bad person who can't handle rejection. that's all he is. He also told him that he was killing the image of, so this is what David told this psychiatrist, he said, I'm killing the image of my whore birth mother who

conceived me with a married man. Which it's like, okay, there it is. Like he's not crazy. He's just telling you exactly what he's doing. Also, like, maybe calm down, dude. Yeah, like, chill. Just like, find a therapist. Work it out there. Yeah. You don't know their life. Yeah. Yikes.

Fuck. Now, a ton of people thought he was actually part of a murderous satanic cult of people. Like, it was multiple people doing this. And it got so crazy. Like, this whole conspiracy theory actually, like, kind of, like, caught on fire a little bit. And they reopened the case in 1996 when this one was born. Oh, yeah. Me. Me. It's time. But they closed it again because there was just no evidence of this. But, like, they got him going. So he maintains that cult-killing thing. And in a 1993 interview with Inside Edition, because again, he's a fame ho. He's like all about it. He said, quote,

the killings were another sacrifice to our gods. A bunch of scumbags they were. We made a, oh wait, I'm not doing the name. We made a pact. Maybe with the devil, but also with each other. We were going to go all the way with this thing. We were soldiers of Satan. know.

Shut up. Shut up. I'm like, fuck off. Inside a distance, like, okay, bro. So, yeah, so he's like, we're soldiers of Satan, that's what's happening.

Weirdly, John Carr, who was Sam Carr's other son, was found dead at an Air Force base in South Dakota like three to six months after David was arrested. They initially thought it was a suicide, but then authorities looked into it,

and they were like, I'm pretty sure it was a homicide. Then Michael Carr, the other son, died in a car accident where he crashed into a pole, no other cars. And his blood alcohol level was like sky high. And everyone who knew him was like, he doesn't drink. So that's weird. So David was like, the cult did it. So he maintains, he's like, no, the cult's still out there and they're killing people.

Like, homie, there's no cult. Nobody wanted to hang out with you. And no one. No one did. You're a loner. Yeah. Deal with it. Jimmy Breslin, after David was arrested, so the investigative reporter that got like the creepy letter for him, he got a Christmas card from David in prison who said, quote, Merry Christmas from the devil.

Like, take a nap, take a walk, go home, bye. It's so heavy-handed. First you're like working for a demon, then you're working for the devil, now you are the devil. Like, holy shit. He's like the devil's secretary. Yeah. I mail out my Christmas cards. Mail out my Christmas cards, bro.

Now, as you can see, he found religion in prison because it's very convenient to find it in prison when you have nothing else to do and when you need sympathy. So now he's doing the whole, like, you know, that... Son of hope. Son of hope. Inspiring, truly. And that's the story of David Berkowitz, son of Pearl. But wait, there's more. We have gifts for you.

We do. Should we stand? We have gifts. Well, we have gifts for three of you. Yeah, not all of you. So we should stand because I'm not going to be like a group. Raise your hand if you would like a gift. Oh, okay.

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