Morbid - The Tragic Case of Florence Maybrick

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

Today Alaina brings us the case of Florence Maybrick and asks that we decide whether or not this woman was guilty of murder. Florence’s husband James was known to have a tummy trouble or two, but in May of 1889 those troubles progressed much further and James ended up dead. Immediately, suspicion was placed on Florence and many wondered whether James had actually succumbed to some kind of illness, or if it was Florence that was behind the sudden death. Had she poisoned her husband? Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is morbid. The minisode. The mini, mini, mini morbid. Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini morbid. Mini morbid, mini morbid, mini morbid, mini morbid. Hey guys, we're back.

What's popping? Don't worry, minisodes aren't going anywhere. We just missed one week because it was a rough week. It's always a rough week in this neck of the woods. It is. We just had a tough week, so it was hard to get one out. But don't worry. From here and out, you're getting two a week again.

Mm-hmm. Here we are. We back. I know people were concerned. They were like, whoa, whoa, wait a second. What the fuck. Where are the mini morbids going? Get them back.

Don't worry. We're here. So because this is a mini morbid, we don't really do a lot of bidness. We just like to jump right into it. But there is one little, like little bit of crying. news that I would just like to put out there because we will be following this story. It's interesting because there seems to be like a rash of these happening lately. I know.

This is kind of actually becoming like an epidemic. Yeah, it's kind of scary actually. This mother of five children in Connecticut has gone missing. She's been five kids. Oh shit. Been missing for like over a week. They just found out that she was going through a pretty like, rough custody and divorce battle with her ex.

There's a lot of money involved. There's just a lot of like messy shit involved. And they just found evidence. They're not saying all the evidence they found in the home, but they did find evidence to suggest that it is a homicide. They have not found her. They said they did find blood in the home that had been wiped up, but they're not releasing if it was hers or not.

But it went from a missing person's case to a homicide. So you know this something. obviously to suggest that that is her blood. Right. Her name is Jennifer Doulos. I believe she's 50 years old. And we will follow this as we get more stuff. Didn't you say it looks like he owed her family a million dollars? Yeah.

The report just came out that he had owed her in-laws $1 million. And now the children are with her parents in New York, I believe. And they're underarmed guard. Jesus. Yeah. So it's just a very, it's a very messy story, a very interesting one. I would say I'm hoping for the best, but it doesn't look good. No.

But we'll definitely update you guys because this is one of those interesting cases, and it's kind of local to us, so. Imagine if you could loan someone a million dollars and, like, not worry too much about it. I imagine if you just saw a million dollars. I don't even think I've seen like $500 live. It's like, live. It's the dream. It's the dream, just to look at $1 million.

Can I just look at it? Yeah, can I sniff it? So let's just jump into the episode, shall we? Yeah, because I, I don't know what you're doing. That's my favorite part. I love that part. And it's an Elaine, a minisode.

I think it might be a minisode. I don't know. It's probably not. It's probably not. It's fine. Hang in. There. So April 15th, 1995.

1995. A year before you were born. C. Jennifer Mori, a young 25-year-old lawyer, went out for drinks after work. And she stayed out for a bit, you know, just had some drinks. She didn't like go partying or anything like that. And she was a super successful, like very smart woman.

She had just moved into this brand new apartment complex. Like she was really doing well for herself. You said she was 25? 25 years old. Okay. So she went out for a bit. She had some drinks. A friend of hers brought her back home and dropped her off at the Bayou Park apartment complex in Houston, Texas.

Doubted. No, she did. I'm kidding. I was like, no, that part's real. She really did. Now, she had chosen this complex specifically because it was huge on security. Oh. Like she liked, because she was living alone.

She was a young woman living alone. So she said one of the main things she was looking for was good security. This place had 24-7 security coverage, like armed guards, all that good stuff. And the company that was the security company for this place was Pinkerton Security, which is a very well-known name. A lot of people know it. It's been around for a long time. So just to give you, you know, an idea of how well-known Pinkerton security is, because it's important. Okay.

It basically dates back all the way to 1850. Oh, shit. Yeah. When Alan Pinkerton, who was a Scottish immigrant, opened a private investigation company, and he called that Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1856, he actually hired the first female detective. Yeah, he did. Go Pinkerton. So, yeah, kind of ahead of his time.

she was a widow named Kate Warren. And she apparently was amazing. And he actually respected her so much that when she died in 1868, he buried her in his family's plot. Oh my God. And of course, these are just like fun little sides that Elena can never not give you. Also, she's speaking in the third person. That's Elena. Elena.

Because sometimes people say that they got us confused and they're like, who's talking? Hi, I'm Elena. Hi, I'm Ash. So one of the most interesting facts about Pinkerton security is they were believed to have foiled an earlier plot to assassinate Abraham Lincoln. Oh, shit. In 1861, the company was in Baltimore. They were investigating, I think, some crazy, you know, rumors about people who were sympathizing with the South and the Civil War. And you know how that all went crazy.

Yeah, I was there. You know, the Civil War be crazy. Yeah. And so during this whole thing, they suddenly became aware of a plot to assassinate Lincoln while he was on the whistlestop tour. Whistlestop tour. They actually warned the president and they called on Detective Kate Warren and a bunch of other detectives to get him the president on an overnight train to get out of Baltimore to foil the plan. This story sounds familiar. It's really interesting.

I had no idea. This company in Alan Pinkerton is sometimes credited with coming up with the term private eye. And that's actually the company's logo. It was an I in the slogan, We Never Sleep. I love that. Yeah. Were they the Illuminati? No.

Actually, you know what? Who am I to say? Maybe they are. I'm not the Illuminati, so I don't know. Are you? Let's move on. They were also one of the first people to create mugshots and come up with the idea of databases for criminals. So they're very important to like modern day law enforcement.

They've been around for a long time. People trust them. People trust them rightfully. Right. So Jennifer Mori, she gets home. She's pretty much just immediately goes to sleep. It's pretty late. She does whatever you do before you go to sleep.

Face masks. Me, I have some soy milk, you know. So she also locked her windows, locked her doors, did everything you're supposed to do to ensure you are safe when you were alone. She listened to our podcast. She did. Oh my God. Was somebody? Okay. Never mind.

So this is the, that's the part, the fact that she did everything, you know, that she was supposed to do to ensure that she was locked in her home that night is the part that kind of like chills me to my bones. So somewhere around 3 to 4 a.m. She woke up and she felt pressure on top of her. No. She quickly realized this pressure was someone on top of her. Oh my God. Fuck that. She then immediately feels pressure on her neck and realizes there is a man on top of her,

straddling her and that he's holding a knife to her neck. Oh, my God, no. Again, she locked herself into that place. She searched her home. She locked all the shit. She did everything she was supposed to do. Jennifer's a bad bitch and she immediately starts fighting. She's like, fuck.

no like I think not because she's like he's trying to rate me I need to stop this so she starts fighting fighting fighting and this guy keeps telling her to be quiet and is yelling just stop moving Jennifer and Jennifer shut the hell out he knows her name yes what the fuck using her name I've heard this story before I know I have yeah you you have and I won't say where until the end but you'll know but so and she's listening and she's like what the fuck he's using my name but She's trying to place a name to a voice. Like she's like, I can't, I can't recognize his voice. I don't know who this person is.

Oh, my God. Even, she said even when she was getting her brain together, like, because she was woken up out of like a fog. Right. Like, then this is happening. She said, I still couldn't place a voice. It never became recognizable to me. So she, so she says, again, he was obviously trying to rape her.

So she starts screaming so loud that she woke up all 15. of her neighbors. Yes. Not one of them called the police. Go fuck themselves. It's like Kitty Genovese. Yeah. Where she was literally murdered in the middle of the street.

With dozens of people hearing it, watching it, and no one did. It's the bystander effect. That's so fucked. And the bystander effect is one of those things we need, we will do a podcast on it. We have to do. It's fascinating. It is fascinating. Because you just assume that someone else will take care of it.

The other person's going to call. I don't need to call. It's like when I saw that lady with the blood dripping down her face. I thought that at first. I was like, someone else will call and then I was like, but what if they don't? Exactly. See? And that's what everybody needs to do.

Just assume. But what if they don't? Assume no one else is going to call. Because they're probably not going to. So this person suddenly slices her from her right cheek down to her neck. Oh my God. She immediately starts pouring blood all over the bed, all over the man. I mean, she's going, because she's still fighting.

Yeah. She told us like, I'm not just going to lay here. So after assaulting her, he took her by the hair and threw her in her bathroom and shut the door. No. And he, like, knows his way around her house. Yeah. Okay, fuck that. And he tells her to stay in there and don't move or I'll kill you on the spot.

So Jennifer took a washcloth and immediately put pressure onto her neck wound because it was a huge wound on her neck. And then she uses her legs and back to, like, jam herself against the door and puts her legs up against the bathtub. So she can keep it closed. And then she's just, because she's like, I don't know if he's going, he's coming in. I don't know if he's, I don't know what's happening. Like what was his plan? Right. So she waited and waited and waited.

And she finally hears him zip up his pants. And then she hears silence. Oh my God. So she just waits and waits for what seems like a billion years. Finally she gets the courage to try to open the door because she's like, I got to get a phone. I have to call 911. Yeah. So she puts her hand on the knob and attempts to.

to turn it. Well, she can't because her hands are so bloody that she can't get a grip on the, on the knob. And also, she had pressed herself so hard against the door in an attempt to stop him. So stuck. That she jammed it. It wasn't even locked. It was like she just jammed it.

At least she did. So she even says that she started laughing because she was like, I have fought so hard. That I literally jibed this fucking. Like, I'm going to die because I can't open the door. Like she said she just was like, what the fuck? Like, are you kidding? So she finally is able to wash her hands off and she uses a towel to get a grip on the knob

and pull it open. She gets out, she tries the lights, lights are dead. No. She tries the landlide, phones are dead. And no. So she quickly finds her cell phone, not knowing where the intruder is or if and when he's coming back for her.

I need a deep breath. Right? She grabs her cell, brings it into the bathroom, and it's working. It's charged. So she calls 911. Because it's probably like a Zach Morris phone. Exactly.

Because you forget it's 1995. These were the huge ones. I mean, I don't remember. You could kill someone with that phone, I'm sure. Blunt forced trauma to the head with the phone. Literally. So dispatcher Richard Everett

just started his first shift at 4 a.m. And he answered this call. She explained everything. And he told her, keep pressure on it. keep a clean washcloth on it, and he was just comforting her. And she said he was amazing. Like, he brought her right to a place where she could think straight. Okay, good.

He kept saying, you're doing fine. Are you cut anywhere else? And she said, all I know is my neck. So he helped her find out if she was cut anywhere else, which she wasn't. And he kept talking to her. She said he literally kept her sane and calm with his just like demeanor and warmth. I can't even like put myself in her head space. Yeah, like and this guy is literally an angel on earth.

So 10 minutes of him talking to her and telling her the police are on their way, the ambulance is on their way, they're coming to you, stay with me, like, just talk to me. And he's telling her like, don't talk too much. Just give me small answers because I don't want you using a lot of air and a lot of voice. But suddenly she hears a knock at the door. No, no, no, no, no, no. So she tells Richard, somebody's knocking. The bathroom door or her house apartment door?

Okay. So she goes, there's somebody at the house. actual front door. And she said, what do I do? And he was like, ask who it is. So she says, who is it? The guy at the door yells that his name is Brian Gibson and he's the night security guard from Pinkerton on duty. Okay. And he says he just got attacked by a guy who jumped off her balcony and he just wants to know if she's okay. And he's like, please let me in. There's blood out here. Are you okay? I saw him jump off your balcony. Right. He attacked me. What's going on? Are you hurt?

So she tells Richard, she's like, oh, it's the security guard. He's checking on me. And Richard said, don't open that door. And she's like, well, why? He's the security guard. Like, I need to, what the hell? So he goes, you know what? We haven't notified your building about this attack yet.

And I know he's saying he saw someone jump off there. But I just don't feel like you should open that door. I don't know this. It's literally gut instinct. He's saying, just don't open the door. I don't feel good about it. Don't do it. So she tells, so she's like, okay, I also don't feel good about it.

So she tells Brian, no, I'm not letting you in. He's starting to get more like, he's frantic. Yeah. And he's saying, I just want to help you. Like, let me in. I'm the security guard. Like, I know somebody came out there. Did they hurt you?

Also, like, I have the help I need. Thanks. Exactly. And he's like, are you hurt? Can I help you? Can I call 911? and can I do anything? No, I'm good.

Thanks. Bye. So she's telling him, I'm fine. The cops are on their way. And he says, I know I can hear the sirens. But let me in. No. And she's starting to wonder, like, should I let?

Maybe he is really. And so she, but Richard says, I'm sorry. Please don't let him in that door. Yes, Richard. And Richard's like, I know this seems like counterintuitive to what we want, but I just don't think it's right. So she said she trusted Richard, but she was so worried. She kept saying to him, I'm really worried about the amount of blood I'm losing.

Like she was like, it's spring everywhere. I'm worried. I need someone. Fucking things in your neck. Yeah, and she kept telling him that. Like, I'm really scared about this amount of blood, but he kept soothing her and told her, just listen to me there right on your street. Okay.

So knocking gets harder and harder. He's still wanting to be letting in. She's worried now because it seems like he might actually be trying to help her. She hears the sirens now. And Richard starts saying, they're in your complex. They're coming. Okay. They're right there.

So now it's silent. at the door. He stopped trying to knock on the door and get in. Right. So the cops and ambulance arrive and they meet with Brian Gibson. He goes out to meet them. Okay. Like he doesn't run away. And he went right up to them. He's bleeding from a wound on his right hand. He's kind of disheveled. There's blood on his face and on his uniform. Okay. And he tells police he was patrolling because he's the night guard on duty. And he just witnessed a man jumped down from Jennifer's balcony, which was on the second floor. And he said the man immediately attacked him when he attempted to engage the guy.

And he said he managed to wrestle him to the ground, but then the guy ran off into the woods after slicing him with the knife. Okay. So he says he immediately ran up to check on Jennifer because that's where the guy was coming from, but she wouldn't let him in and he was worried that she was really hurt. Okay. So they're like, okay. Like, thank you for telling us what's going on.

So they're like, you stay here. We're going to go try to get in there. You know, thanks for your help. You're right. And they look and they've, and I think it was around 6 a.m. at this point or like, like, nearing 6 a.m. So it is starting to get a little light out. And they kind of shine the light over to where he says the guy ran and there's just no evidence that anyone ran over there. No footprints.

No disturbed grass. No blood. Nothing. And there's really no evidence that anyone jumped from a balcony. Because that would, like, you would definitely find evidence of that. And now they're suspecting like something's weird here. So they kind of detain, Brian. They're like, why don't you sit with us?

And they go in to get Jennifer out of the apartment into an ambulance. Now, just as a little side, when Jennifer got to the hospital, because they did get in there, they did get her. It was determined that he, that cut had missed her right jugular vein by only a couple of millimeters. Oh my God, and that would have totally killed her. 100%. It was so deep that doctors said they literally have no explanation why the nerves that control her facial muscles weren't severed. They were like, we don't know how that happened.

And the knife also caught the corner of her right eye, but somehow missed her eyeball. Wow. And it also caught a gold chain that her mother had given her for high school graduation. and if it hadn't hit that chain, the blade might have pierced her larynx. Oh, my God. Yeah. This girl is like, she really is.

Wow. So she said, quote, there was a series of little miracles that prevented me from dying. A hundred percent. So that's the happy part, as we know she gets out of this. Wow. Yes, Jennifer. I feel like I don't know why, but I'm just picturing Sydney Prescott. Right?

She does have, I don't know why. She has Sydney final girl vibes. Yeah, final girl vibes, exactly. So when the cops enter her apartment, they see blood. everywhere. It's just all over the place. And they start searching around after they get her out into the ambulance. And they find a pair of men's underwear. Okay.

A bloody knife and a Pinkerton security hat. He straight up Hansel and Greteled that scene. Like he left bloody breadcrumbs all the way. He was like, here. He left his security hat? Here's my underwear. Here's the weapon of attempted murder. And here's my security cap.

It literally just leads right over to him. Like, why did you leave in such a hurry? So they go back to Brian and they ask him to take his shirt off. They're like, hey, take your shirt off, please. And he's like, I just wanted to help her. I'm just here to help. And they're like, yeah, you can take your shirt off real quick. So he does.

And there are scratch marks and defensive marks all over his torso. They also check and see he's missing his underwear. Like, bro. He had also shaved down there to prove. prevent leaving any hair. Oh. So he planned this and was prepared to rape her and probably kill her. Jesus Christ.

And he was missing his security hat. Duh. So. What a moron? Unbelievable. Like, why did you leave in such a hurry? You threw her in the bathroom. Why didn't she just gather all your stuff?

Right. It's very bizarre. I mean, I'm glad you didn't. But, like, really? But it's just very bizarre. So he, so the cops say he was one coming. back to get all his shit that he left there. And two, he was coming back to probably finish her off.

Uh-huh. Which is horrifying. The security guard, obviously, was the attacker. Right. Wait. This is how he was saying, I know. This is how he was also able to say Jennifer during the attack. He knew who lived in that apartment.

He knew everything how to get in there. He knew everything about it. Oh. It was also discovered that he had a lot of complaints lodged against him in the three years. that he worked for Pinkerton. And probably shouldn't have worked for the company to begin with. Oh, no. His name was Brian Wayne Gibson.

He was 26 years old. Jeez. He had started working for the security company in 1992, and he was there for three years. He was removed from two separate assignments for getting arguments with people. And his final reassignment was after a client complaint at a construction site.

Apparently he had used the client. vehicle without their permission. There were no charges filed against him, but they just trans, instead of doing anything about this, they just kept transferring him. Pinkerton just transferred him to the night shift at Bayou Park, where tons of young women lived alone. Yeah, like, that's cool. So they were like, you're very unreliable and kind of skeevy in doing, like, bad things.

Let's put you on a super important shift. Let's put you on the night shift where you can just prowl around where young women live. Like, are you kidding me? Stupidest idea ever. So Jennifer says, quote, I think he was a sexual criminal who was put into a situation like a kid in a candy shop and that he used that opportunity to pick his favorite flavor of candy. Wow. That's a metaphor. Yeah, Jennifer.

You're right. Jennifer ended up filing a lawsuit against the security company. Yeah, she did. And while they were, while her and her lawyer were going through the whole suit and researching everything, they found out that there was a lot of us. other Pinkerton guards that have gone bad. Oh, shit. Texas state records show that between 1991 and 1995, about 130 Pinkerton guards were convicted of felonies.

130? Yeah. Felonies. Between 1991 and 1995. Wow. So that's kind of terrifying. That's a four-year span. Now, again, I'm not trying to like smear Pinkerton here because they have gotten their shit

together, I think, with like updated databases and stuff. stuff like that and better background checks and stuff. But there was a moment where it didn't look like that. Like were they just hiring like any Tom, Dick, and Harry that walked down the street? Well, just to give a little bit of an insight into it, in August 1992, a 15-year-old El Paso girl was walking home from a movie one night. And she was on the sidewalk. She ended up getting cut off by a car by a man wearing a Pinkerton Security uniform.

there was witnesses that say that this guy flashed a badge at her, handcuffed her and threw her in his car. What the fuck? He then drove her to the desert where he raped her before shooting her in the back of the head. Oh my God. Like at point blank range. Somehow she lived. What?

And she was able to crawl back to a highway and somebody picked her up. The guy was arrested and convicted of attempted capital murder and he's currently serving life in prison, he was a Pinkerton security guard. And they said, just a routine check would have let Pinkerton know that at the time, what was it is,

El Paso County prosecutor Robin Brambleet said, quote, at the time Scott, I think his name was Kenneth Wayne Scott. Scott was a parolee on federal firearms charges. He had a number of prior convictions out of Florida and another state that were easily accessible had anyone bothered to look. Like, why wouldn't you bother to look? At a security guard.

Like, that should be your number one priority is they're not a felon. Like, you're literally, you give them handcuffs. Literally. You give them complete power. They're like a police officer. Yeah. And, I mean, there's such high standards for police officers. Like, why wouldn't security guards be the same?

Right. Another one on January 3rd, 1993, this guy and a few of his friends were out drinking. Then they randomly decided to rob a nearby convenience store. You know. During the whole thing, a 59-year-old clerk named Lenora Tetzman and a customer, 20-year-old Todd Thompson, were shot to death. They ended up following this whole thing to a 20-year-old guy named Christopher L. Jones's place. who was a young Pinkerton security guard.

He was one of the shooters. He was sentenced to life in prison. Wow. Yeah. So did all these like shipbags get together and say like, you know who we should go work for? Pinkerton security. Let's go work for Pinkerton.

Yeah. I hear they'll hire anybody. And it's like, and I think there's something around like 4,000 or something close to that, Pinkerton guards in Texas that are licensed and are not felons. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, this is not like they're all felons and they're all bad.

Right. No, of course not. There just seemed to be a little bit of a like lack in the background check. And it's also just a lesson of like, who can you trust really? Like nobody. And just to put it out there, apparently it can be tough to keep track of security guards as a whole because they tend not to last too long at the job. The turnover rate can be around 50% in a year.

Wow. That's a lot of turnover and a lot of people to keep track of. But this was also back in like 1999 that this was a real problem. Now they've integrated a computer system that better keeps track of the people they're putting in charge of security. So they have up to their shit. Like cool thanks. Appreciate it. Like, thank you. Mori's attorney, B.J. Walter Jr., who was helping her with the lawsuit against Pinkerton, said that basically it was poor background checks and inadequate psychological screening for their employees that was to blame here. He says, Brian Gibson just lied on his employment application and nobody looked. I mean, obviously. He said, quote, the guy was supposed to have stability in his employment. The guy was supposed to have a minimum of a high school diploma,

or GED. He didn't. And they didn't check up on him to find out that he didn't. Oh, wow. So even something is like innocuous as that. He didn't even have a GED. Right. And that's the minimum requirement. Typically, you look into that.

Yeah. Their psychological testing at the time, when he was hired, they used the Minnesota multi-phasic inventory, which is a psychological exam that's geared towards pointing out character flaws. Okay. But the test is supposed to be 500 plus. questions. They were using an abbreviated one with only 168 questions. I'm sorry, how many questions that it's supposed to be? 500 plus. Oh, okay. So in a 1997 deposition, the psychologist that

actually works for Pinkerton actually said his name is Arthur C. LeBlanc. He actually said, quote, the short version doesn't measure everything. It doesn't give you enough data to make an informed decision about a potential employee. And it gives potential clients. finds a false sense of security. So their own psychologist that works for the company was like, yeah, this doesn't tell us anything. So then what the fuck is the point of even doing it?

Well, luckily now, they use a test called the Stanton survey. And apparently that's a little better, I guess, of a screening tool. So that's been taken care of. Uh-huh. So after this whole shebang happened, Brian was arrested,

but he ended up only getting 20 years for attempted murder. That's it? He's on parole now in Texas. What about the attempted rape, too? Well, I don't know. Well, I don't even know if it was attempted rape. I couldn't find it anywhere whether that was actually.

But either way, attempted murder, he got 20 years. And he's on parole now in Texas. What the fuck? Yes. Now, because of this and because of the entire experience to begin with, Jennifer obviously had a tough time moving on at first. Duh. Two weeks after the attack, she was completely moved out of her apartment.

She just up and left. Yeah, see you. Thank you. Bye. She ended up moving in with her mother for a bit. She said she had trouble even leaving her mother's side for a while. I don't blame her. Was like crippling. She said she would call 911 at the slightest thing. Like if her cat made a noise, she would call 911.

She also just trolled the house all night and said she just didn't sleep. I would never sleep again. Yeah. How could you? she eventually did move forward though because I think it was like her brother something like pulled her aside was like you got to you got to go crazy you got to get it together and um she became the director of trauma support services in north Texas and she's also done a ton of speaking engagements where she tells her story and how she survived it good for her she got married and when she got married she her husband was actually one that encouraged her to open her own law firm. And also when she got married, Richard, the 9-1-1 dispatcher, was at her wedding.

Shut the fuck up. I know. I love that. Because they're still good friends. Because he saved her life. He literally did. I mean, his gut instinct to say, do not open that door.

You can't, I would never be able to say whether I would have that instinct. No. Like, they think, everything that he had that instinct. I love him. Love Jennifer. And so her husband, like I said, encouraged her to open her own law firm. She did.

And it focuses on family law in Fort Worth, Texas. It's still up and running today. Has stellar reviews. She's like killing it. I love that. And her quote, her last quote that I just want to say is, quote, I have a theory that the Jennifer Mori that existed on April 15, 1995, died. And that a new one had to come out of that.

Yes, girl. Isn't that amazing? Wow. I'm really glad that that. had a happy ending. I know, right? I felt, I felt good about it. I loved that. I wanted to give a little more history into Pinkerton and all that. Yeah, you did. So I thought that was a pretty feel-good mini. I liked that a lot. Thanks. I'm so glad that Richard was at her wedding. I know, I love that. I'm not going to sleep tonight, though, so thanks a lot. I know. Doesn't even matter

if I lock my fucking windows or my shit. Well, you, you know, not disparaging security guards or anything like that. This just happened to be a very bad apple. Yeah. You know. There's also, There's also crazy autopsy texts, I'm sure, that have done. Actually, there is. There's stories of people like taking home bodies and shit. Wow. I wonder if there's crazy hairstyle. I mean, there are.

100%. I wonder if it's crazy. But like, I wonder if there's like murderous hairstylists. Like, oh, maybe I'll find that for my next mini episode. Try to find one for a mini. And I will. So yeah. Well, thanks guys for listening.

Thanks for listening to the story of Jennifer Mori. That was a good one. That badass surviving boss. I really liked that one. Yeah. It's a nice. Well, guys, if you want to enjoy more of our stories, keep listening to us. And if you want to see the fun things we post, you can go ahead and do that on Instagram at Morbid Podcasts.

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All right. You could also send us a Gmail, morbid podcast at gmail.com. If you really, really feel so inclined, you could donate to our Patreon at patreon. Patreon.com slash morbid podcast. And you could also go check out our website that my lovely co-host so greatly designed at Morbidpodcast.com. And funny little aside, last. episode, you said, go visit the co-host that Elena designed.

Did I really? Yes. And somebody was like, I had no idea that Ash was designed by you. I mean, I essentially was. Oh, funny. So, yeah, do that. And we hope you keep listening. And we hope you.

Keep it. Weird. But not so weird that you become a security guard just to go ahead and, like, break into some lady's house and be like, quiet, Jennifer. And then she fucking locks herself in the bathroom and guess what? She fucking jams the door. And guess what? Richard is the best, but don't keep it that weird as the guy. Bye.

Don't do it. Also, go Jennifer. Go Jennifer. Bye. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.