More Life with Carl Radke - ‘Dancing Weatherman’ Nick Kosir on viral fame, social anxiety, and sobriety

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

Carl is joined by Nick Kosir, the Fox Weather meteorologist known to millions as the “Dancing Weatherman”. Nick opens up about living with social anxiety, getting sober, and the unexpected path that led him from local news to viral internet fame. He shares how therapy helped him understand his anxiety, why quitting alcohol changed his life, and how dancing online gave him the confidence to show up more fully. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Carl Radkeith, thanks for giving me more life. You certainly embody the More Life mentality, which... Appreciate it. Which you may recall, because you've seen Summerhouse before. Yes. I used to say More Life all the time. Yeah, yeah. And I still live and embody this kind of mentality and this mantra.

And it's one of my favorite sayings. Yeah. So I'm curious, though, do you, Nick Koser, have a favorite saying or mantra that you repeat daily like I do? More Life. Mine would probably be whenever my coworkers say, how you doing? I say, just put one foot in front of the other. I wish I had something more flashy and cool, but that's what I've got for you here. Honestly, that's good stuff.

Okay. That's how I try to live my life is just one foot. Thanks for humoring me on that one. Yeah, you're very present. Yes, yes. It's truly a pleasure having you here. It's an honor to be here, man. I want to bring our audience and our watchers up to date on how we got to meet each other.

And it was at a very special Mission Impossible movie premiere here in York. I got an email and it said, Tom Cruise is going to be there. Yeah. And that's all I needed to hear. Same. I've been fortunate to get invited to different movie premieres here in the city. But this one was different. Everybody know Tom does his own stunts. Yeah. And I was like, this seems to be probably his last one potentially. So I got to go. I saw Tom, but I got to meet one of my favorite people. I've been seeing you pop up on my Instagram and TikTok over the last few years. I love rap music. I love dancing. Yeah. And watching you. you dance in Times Square, watching you dance in the studio.

It's entertaining. It's fun. It's awesome. But what I didn't, I didn't know you until I think you came up to me at the premiere. Yeah. And you were excited to meet me. And I'm like, I'm excited to meet you. Yeah.

And we bonded very briefly and not to give away your story, but you were like, I don't drink either. And I'm like, what? The Dancing Weatherman doesn't drink. Uh-huh. So instantly I knew we were going to be friends. Same. Same. And by the way, I do got to say, you were one of, at those events, a lot of influence, a lot of

influencers, I don't know, it's very, there's an energy. A lot of people don't want to be the first person to go up to anybody to say hi and say, oh my gosh, I'm your fan, but I just knew that my publicist actually. Yes, Dee, D. Marie. She immediately, because you're a tall guy. And I was like, that's Carl. You just stood out because you look like a freaking star. You know, you're dressed all cool.

You're dressed pretty well. Thanks. And Dee goes, yeah, you want me to introduce you to him? I was like, yeah. And immediately I could just, you know, you're not, you're not the typical creator, influencer, celebrity guy. So it was nice to meet another cool, relatable gentleman on the red carpet, you know. I appreciate you saying.

Yeah, of course. Did you end up liking the movie? You know what? I never stay for the movies. Okay. Thank you for admitting this because guess what? I had beef because a lot of the influencers left. Yes.

I'm one of them. By the end of the movie, well, actually Tom came in to one of the theaters. Uh-huh. I heard about this. So I was sitting in the seat and I had this moment where I'm like, am I going to stay? Uh-huh. Because I saw other people leave. Yeah.

I get up to go to the bathroom. And it was going to be like a fake Irish exit potentially. Ah, yeah. So I'm walking out and I could see this security guard coming towards me very quickly. And sometimes you know like the energy of a room. Like someone, you can just feel it. It shifts. And I hear a guy go, Tom's coming.

Tom's coming. So I'm like, Tom's coming. And I just turned and went back towards the theater. And as I'm walking back towards the theater, like a rush of just wave of security. And then Tom comes in right. behind. Yeah. And he spoke to the theater. I'm like, all right, Tom just told me I got to watch the movie. Now, I'm going to watch the movie. How was it, by the way? Phenomenal. Yeah, I still haven't seen it. I got to, I should really. It's really good.

Now, before we get into your story, which I'm excited to talk about, you know, I know a fair amount about you, but obviously I'm looking forward to talking to you more. Before you became the dancing weather man, like, who is Nick Kosher? Who's this person underneath this persona? I mean, like, how would you describe yourself to someone without mentioning your dancing? I'm just a pretty average chill dude, honestly. I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I'm pretty authentic. I haven't really changed a whole lot. My whole adult career, my whole adult life, I've been a meteorologist. So a lot of my- Did you always know you wanted to be it? Actually, no. I sort of stumbled. The universe nudged me into this career. I always wanted to be around cameras and

microphones and stuff, even at a young age. Back when we were coming up, coming of age, everybody didn't have a cell phone with editing capabilities and 4K video. So I remember when my dad first rented a camp quarter. Remember those? They were like, sin blocks. The one over the shoulder. And then we got better with like the one that opened out. Yeah, the LCD screen. Yeah. So when my dad first brought one of those home, I thought it was awesome and I couldn't stop playing with it. And so that's kind of when I realized, oh, I like communications, media. So I ended up majoring in business and organizational communications in college. You got into the news right out of college. Yeah, yeah. Did you immediately work a news job or did you go right into like meteorology stuff? Immediately I did,

general news reporting, which I was bad at. My boss, after about a year, sat me down and was like, dude, you suck. How do you quantify someone sucking at, like? I just clearly didn't have a passion for it. And that was... Did you, like, fumble your lines and stuff? I mean, no, but I just wasn't going the extra mile to dig and get the story. I would just sort of check the boxes.

I just had this vision of you being like Ron Burgundy or something. Yeah, I was... Reading the teleprompter wrong or something. That certainly happened, but not on purpose. but once our weather girl took a vacation, they had me fill in for her, and that's when it clicked. I go, oh, I didn't realize I could major in meteorology

and make money off of doing it. It's a little lighter. News is pretty hard. For sure. Weather's a little lighter, and so I went back and I got my degree in meteorology from Mississippi State University. That was in 2008, and I've been doing it ever since.

Wow. Yeah. So the person underneath all the weatherman and meteorology, who is Nick? Like family man. Family guy, yeah. I hang out with my... Honestly, I'm the most like extroverted introvert, you know, that probably...

This is something we're going to get into. Yeah. Because you and I actually were invited to the same event. Which one? Other than the Tom Cruise thing? Other than the Tom Cruise thing, millennial entertainment. Oh, yeah. I was there.

This is embarrassing. No, it's not. This is actually really important because this is something I was highlighting at the beginning of this where... I'm going to give you an example. I've... Since I got sober in January of 2021, there'll be times where... I don't feel confident going out.

I'm sober. That's great. That's the best thing for me. However, when I'm at an event or party or birthday or whatever's going on, I sometimes feel out of place. And early on in my sobriety, when I would go to a party, right before I leave or about to leave, I'm like, I don't want to go. No one's even going to know in there.

I'm going to be awkward. I start siking myself out. There was periods of time in my early sobriety and even two, three years in, I would just not go. Yeah. Last minute. For whatever reason, just that feeling of fear and I don't know, just didn't want to do it. But over time, I've started just like, that's when you go is when you really are feeling like you don't.

Because usually on the other side of it will be someone I meet or a conversation will have, which will be inspiring or be helpful. I'll take it a step further. You know what I used to do? At work. I did this at Lover Boy. I don't even think Kyle Cook knows this. I would be working in Long Island or driving my car around and pitching. lover boy uh-huh i would sometimes get to a store that wasn't aware i was coming i had to go in

and like pitch them the brand and talk to them i didn't go in i sat in the car so you'd go and you wouldn't you'd be there i was sitting in the car hey that sounds familiar in the parking lot of the store and would psych myself out or just get into a place where i'm like i don't want to do it interesting and i would go not does okay so why though why fear of rejection fear of just feeling comfortable. Yeah. I had been told no in other situations. So I was like, you know, this guy's probably going to say no.

I'm just going to say. You were just in your head with it. In my head. Yeah, yeah. Now, not to steal your thunder. Could you talk to me through, I thought you were going to that event. But I later learned that you were there but never went inside. I did exactly what you just said.

I was. And that's okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Can you talk to me about that? Yeah, no, I drove there. I saw all the people in the place. You had worked a full day though, right?

Yeah, I did. Okay, give yourself some grace here. Okay, I'll take it. That's a good excuse. That's a good out. What time did you get up in the morning that day? Oh, man, it was probably like 4 a.m. So you're up early, you're in a suit, you're working all day, you're broadcasting,

you're doing weather. Yeah. You then are heading downtown to Tribeca to this event. For this party. I got there, parked and everything, saw all the people crowded around the bar. And I go, man, I don't want to go to this. So I stood out and I actually I was looking for you. I knew you would stand out.

I got a little late. I was coming from. If I had to see you out of walk in. Yeah, I was going to say, if you saw me and turn around, I didn't like. I didn't recognize anybody that I knew. And I don't know. I just, even though I'm eight years sober, I still, if I'm near a bar and there's drinks, you know, it's just one of those things where I don't love to put myself in a position to fail.

Not that I miss drinking at all, but I just, was like, you know, I don't know if this event's for me. So I turned around and went home. And I caught you the next day. I was like, do you go to that thing? You were like, yeah, it was great. And I said, oh, man, I wish I would have went now. And then I later saw it.

Listen, man, I have so much respect for you opening up like that. Yeah, I think it's important that people are really honest. Appreciate it. And even in the little clip I saw it, like that made me feel so much better about how I've felt. Okay, good. Before. Because even with that party that night, I also had apprehensions. Yeah.

It was a Tuesday night, I think. Yes. It was like week nights. school night, as people say. Yeah. Of course, I'm not drinking. I have no desire to drink anymore. But when I'm at a bar in Tribeca, a cool bar, and a bunch of people.

We don't know a lot of people. Exactly. They knew me. And they're all drinking, so they're all socially lubricated. And they know who you and I are. Absolutely. But it's still intimidating to walk into a room like that. And I totally have been there.

I always hate when people know me or know of me and I don't know them because I feel like such a jerk. I feel like that's a big part of your life, though. Huge. I've been doing it for a while, and I'm not great at it. And I figured there would be a lot of that going on there. And then I would become extra awkward, you know, because then I'd try to play it off like I knew them. And that never usually goes well for me.

And so I didn't make it. I didn't make it. And that's okay. Yeah. But like you have millions of people that know who you are. I did a double check at your TikTok. I mean, you got around seven million followers or something? Yeah.

Right around there. And your Instagram is pretty damn popping. Yeah. It's not. it. It's not bad. It's not the biggest, but it's not the smallest. But you have tons of people who know you are. Your energy, your spirit, your positivity. You stand for good stuff.

Yeah, yeah. And a lot of people really, I think, connect with what you put out there. You've been doing this for how long now? I mean, putting videos on the internet and, like... I popped in 2019, but I've been doing it for... Before then, I'd started in probably 2015. So a good 10 years at least. And even the OG OGs know me. I used to be the rapping weatherman back in 2008.

eight on original YouTube stuff. So it's been a long time coming. Yeah. And what was the impetus for wanting to wrap or put dances or just? Well, like I said, I've always been attracted to media and making it. I've always kind of just been a content creator even before that. So you were more comfortable putting a video out there to strangers. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. A thousand percent. Then actually getting in front of some strangers, for sure. I don't know what it is. That's just how I'm wired. I think a lot of creators are kind of like that. A lot of the creators that I meet, especially in the dance community, they're kind of introverts and they're sort of maybe a little more soft-spoken. I think they just express themselves through dance.

Through dance or through their videos. In an environment, they can control. And so that's kind of more how I am. But I've always enjoyed the creative process. I'm kind of a content creator masquerading as a meteorologist. That's kind of how I describe myself. So this is just a trick employed just to get us to watch your dances. Maybe in a roundabout way. Yeah. I think that's what it is. By the way, by the way, I Congrats on your eight years. Thanks, brother. So inspiring. Congrats to you too.

Thank you, man. It'll be coming up on five. Hell yeah. January 7th. Hey, I'll drink to that. Drink to that. Cheers, cheers,

of course. Non-alcoholic drinks. Yes, non-alcoholic lover boy. Get him at your nearest grocery store. You talk about not drinking. A couple of things come to mind just in your professional life. Mm-hmm. Has the sobriety helped your professional?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. It's much easier. You probably can speak to this, too. It's much easier to stack productive days. You know, when I was drinking, I would have, I'd start strong on a Monday, start strong on a Tuesday, start strong on a Wednesday, you know, so I'd put three good days together. Then I'd be real proud of myself and go, you know, I deserve a drink Wednesday night, have one too many, wake up groggy Thursday, and then that momentum would start to slip.

And then maybe I'd get back on it on Friday, and then the weekend comes and it's gone. And so now I'm able to, it's just being sober is kind of you're boringly consistent, but it's just like that Michael Jordan poster that was probably up in your elementary school room. You know, greatness is just consistency. Is that with the arms? Yeah. Hell yeah. You know, the ability to be great is just doing the same thing over and over and over again consistently.

And so that's what sobriety has been for me, just the ability to show up in the same mind frame day after day and not waver from that. Even if it's a bad day, it's still better than a good day drinking, really. You know how that goes. So well said. So well said. Soccer fans, your chance to witness history is here. You can win tickets to the FIFA World Cup 2026 final thanks to Visa. All it takes is a BMO Visa credit card to winner.

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Like, you know, I only do it on the weekends. I still have a job. I'm not an alcoholic. I had a tough day at work, so I'm going to have a couple. Or I did something good, so I'm going to drink to that. Or, you know, alcoholics are the homeless guys you see on the side of the road. Yep. The last time I'd tell everybody I quit drinking like 30 times.

But the habit kicked me back 29 times. I was just successful at quitting, drinking once, which is all you need. Yeah. But the last time I realized it was a little bit much, and I should probably put the brakes on. I was watching an NFL game. I was 35.

When you're 35 in your party and you're a college kid? That's pretty pathetic. Yeah. 100%. So I thought I was being super cool and funny, and I was giving my friend piggyback rides through the bar. And mind you, I was in Charlotte. People knew who I was at that point.

I was locally known. And it was kind of a scene. And then I guess my wife and I sort of got into it about something. I don't really remember this all that well. But I guess other people that weren't in our friend group started to notice. And then the next day, even my friends who are, they're part of years and they like to have a good time, they're like, yeah, Nick, that probably wasn't a good look. And it was at that point when I go, I should probably quit. Wow.

Yeah. So I got on the phone with the therapist that day. And that was it. I tried Alcoholics Anonymous, didn't work for me. But going to the therapist really worked for me. I got some social anxiety medication and it's been good ever since. So, I mean, would you say, had you been in any major trouble from any of the drinking at all? Yeah.

I haven't really. If you don't mind, would you, are you comfortable sharing your. Absolutely. You know what? trouble. You know what? I got a DUI. I got one too. And it was actually before I was 17. Fuck. Yeah. So it wasn't a good look. And at that point, I should have stopped at that point, but I kept known. DUIs are not cool at all. And for my DUI really fucked my life up. I was 22 years old. So you were young too. And I went to jail for the night. Yeah. I was arrested outside of a nightclub in

LA on Hollywood Boulevard with three of my friends in the vehicle. Yeah. It was really Actually, I had three friends in my vehicle, too, which I'm not proud of one bit. You and I have lived very similar parallel lives. How old were you? You said 17? I was 17. I lost my license for a year. I didn't have to – my dad came to pick me up, so I didn't have to do any time in the holdings.

I think when you're under 18, you actually are, like, not thrown in jail, jail. But you're still probably got fined. Oh, man, out the wazoo. Do you have your license today? I do. Yeah. I haven't lost it since. I've never drank and drive since then.

So that was the good that came from that bad. Yeah. But in this day and age, you know, Uber is huge, right? So that I think that there's really no excuses anymore. That's right. I have friends obviously still partake and have fun, but I try to be the DD if I can. There you go. But even then, I'm like there's no real excuse anymore. Yeah. It really is just not. It's not worth it. Absolutely. As far as like growing up, like was alcohol a big part of your family growing up or? Yeah. You know, my parents drank a little bit. Actually, I think really what it boils down to for me is because yes, of course, my parents had. They're European. I'm first generation. They're both from Europe. And so where about in Europe? Italy and Slovenia. I think the thing that put me behind the black ball in terms of drinking was both of my, not one, but both of my grandfathers were raging alcoholics. And that certainly trickles down through your jeans. Did you clock it at a younger age? Like, okay, my grandparents or my grandfathers aren't drinking like everybody else? Or were you just like, that's just who they are?

I knew. I never saw my one grandfather. quit before I realized. You know, I'd heard stories, but he... You never actually saw him. Never saw it. And then the other one, I think I was too young to clock it, but I do remember a Christmas or two. He was a boisterous gentleman,

and now I understand exactly the mind frame that he was in. He was just partying. I mean, that's how I've had to make look back on my youth and childhood a lot, because when I was young, I didn't understand it. Yes. My grandfather drank, my, you know, aunts and uncles drank. But behaviorally, there was some changes. But I just, it's my grandpa.

He's a little crazy after three martinis. He didn't know what was going on. No, but now looking back to your point, like I can see what, I mean. Yeah. My grandfather, you know, he was having three or four martinis and disassociating from the family. Like, you know. Yeah, man. Your personality changes, even after one drink.

When you were drinking, what did it do for you? Like, did it give you confidence? Yeah, yeah, definitely. I realized I have social anxiety. That's what I came to find out after therapy. And so there's nothing wrong with that, by the way. Yeah, no, it's very common, actually. So common that I don't think a lot of people really are honest about it.

For sure. Because the solution is drink. I'll have a drink. Listen up. Or you got to do that inner work, which isn't a ton of fun either. But in the long run, it definitely is the best way to go. But I would, I was self-medicating with alcohol. And I just, I'm not, I do struggle with.

self-doubt a lot and it's annoying. And so, man, as soon as I take that first sip, I swear to God, all the self-doubt goes away. And I'm just, just pure, pure confidence. And probably a little too much so, especially after the drinks start racking up. But I like that feeling. You know, I like that feeling. And once that first sip gets in there, it feels so good that I don't want to stop. But at a certain point, it just, I don't know, I'm kind of like a jekyll and a hide when I drink. Either I'm really, really fun and happy or... Do you become like a crazy... I get weirdly crazy or even aggressive,

which isn't in my nature one bit. So that's how you know you're truly losing control. No, for sure. I mean, I can relate to the Jekyll and Hyde as well. I mean, I always had convinced myself for a while. I was the life of the party, the fun guy, the hilarious, funny dude. Yes. But what was really happening was I was the aggressive kind of manic, chaotic.

Yes. Like all over the place and about to like start a fight. So when you drank, did you, so you said you kind of feel the same way that I think I felt where you felt like you were a better version of yourself. 100%. I think a lot of people that drink feel that way. I thought I could dial in like it was two old fashions. Yes. Maybe a bump of cocaine.

And I was the fucking man. That's how I felt. I know, right? At that time, I convinced myself that's like what I needed to perform or be likable or interesting. Of course I wanted like attract a woman. But like what I thought I was doing was like giving myself this like amazing. ego, and it was the opposite. I know. There's something, I think 90% probably plus feel the same exact way.

And there's got to be, I haven't done any research on that aspect of drinking, but there's something in there that I feel like human nature needs to figure out, you know? I would like to tap into that without the negative side effect. Well, the society around it, just the culture of drinking and you grew up with it. It's normalized. True. And for folks like us who now aren't drinking, it's becoming more normalized, which is, I think, good. I know, I know.

I'm jealous. You were talking about just like getting, stop drinking, getting sober, took you 29 different times. Yeah. Took me several. I mean, it's not a linear path at all. Yeah. Can you give us any kind of insight into those moments that didn't work or? You know, one time I made it, I white-knuckled it for about seven months with no therapy, just quitting cold turkey.

and at that point And by the way, I love that you use the term white knuckling because that's a big term that I use That's truly the way it is You're just every day like holding on for dear life Can I make it through another hour? Which is honestly not a way to live really

No man I'm sure you were probably That I think is even harder It's just like you're white knuckling You're being pretty private about it Or just like trying to go through it on your own Yep That's hard

Very hard So you were just like no meetings No like therapy Nope, just a hundred, just hack and do this. Did you go out still? Yeah, I would go out. What was your, what did you say to people when they go, Nick? You want to, you want a cold one?

I think I made up some excuses like I'm trying to put on, it was like a gym thing or I was training for a marathon, you know, or I don't know. I don't know what it was. It was some nonsense that wasn't exactly truthful. But I remember going after seven months, I go, oh, I've got a handle on this thing. I can probably do it in moderation. So at that point, it became, I'll just have two or three on a Saturday night. And then I would do that successfully one week and then the next week I would do it again.

And then after a month, I would go, I could probably sneak some drinks in on a Friday too. And then here we go again. We're off to the races. So you've been doing, how many years would you say you were kind of in that? Spinning the wheels, probably like five, ten years, if I'm being honest. I appreciate the honesty. Because I think a lot of people think you just got a problem, get the help you need. And I would also go through these phases where it would be, I'm only going to drink beer.

Okay, that doesn't work. Okay, I'm only going to do a few shots. And then that doesn't work. And then you're like, okay, I'll only do it on the weekends. I'm not going to do. At one point, I thought the way to go was to just do high alcohol IPAs and just limit those to three or four, which equals a 12-pack, really. Way more beer. But in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, I don't.

only had three beers, no big deal. And it sounds good on paper, but it's a horrible strategy. I relate to all that because I, when I first originally was telling friends, you know, I got to, I'm getting sober, I'm getting help. I went to a therapist that told them the therapist was like, what did you thought about moderation? And I'm like, yeah, sure, I'd love to moderate. Like, duh. And let's try just drinking lover boy, the alcohol one. So I tried just drinking lover boy. That lasted about three days. And I'm drinking other, you know, I'm just going to drink gin. I went through like almost every alcohol variety and was like, I'm just going to have this.

Yep. And it lasted no longer than three days. It was always right back to the same behavioral like overdoing it, binging, staying up all night. Does alcoholism run in your family? It does. Which was something I don't, like growing up in that environment,

we come from an era maybe that things were a little bit different back then where it was just kind of normalized. Men and women come home from a long day of work. They have a drink. If you weren't getting wasted in college, you weren't doing right. weren't going to college. In our age, in our demographic. Yeah, and I just, my family was big drinkers.

But for the most part, it seemed like love and just connection was in the air. But then there was also chaotic behavior, intense things. But then what really shined a light was my brother who really did not only drugs, but alcohol as well. But I would say drugs were more of his challenge. So growing up, I always idolized the men in my life, my dad, my grandfather, and my brother. But then I started to realize as I got into high school, like these men, and consumed alcohol a lot or other things and their behavior changed.

So I almost developed like this, I'm not going to be like them. I'm not like them. Wow, so you recognized it at a pretty young age. A little bit, yeah. But I never thought in a million years that I was also having a challenge. I'm like, I'm good. I can get this right. Yeah, I'm not like them.

But what's interesting is that over the years I would even make fun of people that originally would tell me they were getting sober. You'd be like, oh, come on, man. And what I've learned a lot is if you spot it, you got it. Uh-huh. Anybody who's uncomfortable with that, it's really, it's calling something out inside of them. And they're projecting that negativity back towards you. And that was something I didn't realize in the moment.

But yeah, I grew up around a lot of drinking. And basically, like, your personality was kind of developed from alcohol. Yeah. You mentioned something I want to get into, which is the social anxiety, which is something I, believe it or not, have ballots of feeling a little out of place. You'd be surprised me. I think most people look at me in like, oh, he's extroverted. he's very confident. I am to a degree,

but then there's elements of at a big party at an event. I'm like, how do I, what do I do I do I? When you got diagnosed with your, did you get, have a relief? You know,

you get clarity or are you like embarrassed? I remember, I remember. Because I'm in a way, like, I'm almost like not afraid, but like I feel, I feel anxious in social situations sometimes,

but I've never like really like, I don't know, gotten diagnosed or anything. I looked at it like, that, even though I probably would have a similar thing. Yeah, okay. All right. I remember I took this test and I took it, submitted it one week and I came back and the therapist goes, yeah, Nick, you have classic social anxiety. And I go, what are you talking about? Classic. Yeah. I go, she's like textbook and I thought, what are you talking about? I do TV and I talk to people all the time.

And then she starts explaining it and I was, and I identified with it pretty clearly. And I just thought that's how kind of everybody was. I didn't realize that it was a thing that you could actually treat. I just for so many years thought, oh, I'm just not as good at overcoming whatever's going on as the next guy. And then she recommended that I try Lexapro. Have you heard of this? It's like an antidepressant.

Yeah, it's like a, yeah, antidepressant. So she gave me a low dosage of that. And she goes, this might take a couple weeks to work. So don't expect it to be. working like that. So I got the prescription, went and filled it, took it. And then the next day, immediately I go, oh my gosh, why does life seem so much easier? And it just chilled me out. I could actually live for the first time. And

that's when I realized, oh, wow, I do have social anxiety. And there's something that can cure this. And so you got a lot of relief. Yes. And I'm off Lexapro now. It actually is a curative pilled drugs. So if you take it for long enough, it just, the effects last. So I don't need it anymore. Your body builds and kind of almost has storage of what you've been taking. Yeah. Yeah, kind of rewires the way your brain works and the way your body responds to certain things. And I just remember going, wow, I had no idea. I wish I would have started therapy sooner and figure this out sooner. And it was eye-opening. And so, and so I really wish and hope that other people

that might relate to anything that you or I are saying can maybe go to therapy and get on the proper medication to feel that feeling because truly it was like peace. It was the first time I really actually experienced peace and there's nothing better than peace. And how old were you when you discovered? I was 35.

35. Maybe 36. So. And you'd been going through all sorts of trying to figure it out. Yeah. Almost like white knuckling my entire life is what I felt like. I would imagine that made you feel like, Okay, like I now have myself figured out. And then immediately I was able to stack good days and one year later,

my videos started to hit and I was off to the races. So it helped out a lot. Interesting. So the timing of that adjacent to your pop off on the internet. It totally lines up. I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today. I wouldn't be seen any review. Like, how do you manage your anxiety now?

Like I know therapy. Yeah, yeah. You know what, to be honest with you, it's funny because the level of anxiety that I had back then is nothing compared to the situations that I'm in now. So I don't know. I'm starting to need, I'm starting to look at different ways to deal with it. Sure. Well, you probably have more responsibility than ever now. Yeah, the ante has been up to a little bit. Yeah. I'm working towards, you know, you never are at the finish line. You're always a work in progress. Yeah. Which is annoying and I hate that. I hate that. But there's always another challenge to figure out. But yeah, yeah,

at the time, it was great. And so now I just, now, you know, you build up tools in your tool belt. Then you realize, oh, this is happening. So I should back off here. I should do this in response to that. So there's a lot of wisdom and kind of strategy that you understand about yourself. And the older that you get, the more you realize what actually is real and what isn't and what you're building up in your head. I love that you said that. Yeah, I rely on that. My intuition. more than ever. Yeah, listening to your body, listening to your body will tell you. Well, like, how do you, I mean,

I know you were very honest about that event that you didn't walk in. That's fine. Yeah. But how, I mean, is there tools you have in your toolbox or toolkit? Let's say you have an event this week for Fox weather. Yeah.

You're going to go. What do you do with those events? Like to make you sell, even though you might be feeling it a little bit, how do you get through it in those? Is there a drink you have? Is there sometimes, you call a friend out in the hallway?

Yeah, well, yeah, sometimes I do disallow. superior, you know, I mean. I have too. I'll tell friends, I just need a 20 minute. That's it. And they're like, what? I'm like, I'm going to go outside away from the alcohol and all the other loud noises

and just do something for 20 minutes and breathe and take a second and then I'll come back in and be fine. Yeah, yeah. But I need that 20 minute. Bingo. A lot of times I'll just go to the bathroom for a minute and just chill out. Yep. Hopefully nobody is in there.

So you're the guy sitting on the toilet but not using it that way. Exactly. Taking it up. Or just find a quiet space and take a quick time out. Or I'll just honestly sometimes just stop talking. Take a few conversations off and let everybody else do their thing. Or I'll go and get food or whatever. I'm an eater.

Yeah, just take a time out, really. I love that. I've read somewhere that you said your entire Fox Weather career, it never would have come to fruition had you not gotten sober. Definitely not. What do you mean by that? Or can you talk us through that? For sure. So I worked in, when I was in local news in Charlotte,

So you'd been in Mansfield, Ohio, doing the local. Mansfield to Texas to Boise, Idaho. I mean, I also think that that would add to some of the drinking and anxiety and not knowing people in certain cities and trying to fit in and just meet people. You know, I'd been doing stuff out in local news for a long time, just trying this and that. And then the dancing thing happened. And so...

What year was the dancing thing? 2019. That was your first dance took off. Yeah, it took off. I did the slide like this challenge. and people seem to like it. So I go, oh, crap, I guess I'm an internet dancer now. And I started putting videos out and things happened fairly quickly.

The internet world is wild. So you put the first video on TikTok. No, actually, my come up was on Instagram. I didn't even know about TikTok back in 2019 when I was doing this stuff. So Instagram was your first video. Yeah. Were you at Fox Weather yet? No, not in New York.

That was in Charlotte. So you're at Fox Charlotte, post your video on Instagram. When you were having your Fox, it could be Charlotte, it could be back here in New York, did you talk openly about your sobriety at this point? It took me a little bit. I wanted to make sure. And that's okay. Like I was, well, I wanted to make sure that I was actually going to be successful. I wanted to get myself at least a few years. I think the first time I talked about it was at my church. I was actually one year in. I didn't make it super duper public. I kind of soft launched my sobriety. Shout out to soft bar. All about the soft launch. Yeah, exactly.

But the pastor had me up on stage after a year, and that's when I... That's beautiful. That's when I said, hey, I just wanted to see what it would be like to talk about it in front of people. And it was well received. How did you feel in that moment? I felt great. I felt great. And you know, I'll be honest with you, that was the first time I realized how you can truly help people by talking about this.

Because after that service, I did two services, same Sunday, early service. late service did the same song and dance. And a few people hit me up in the DMs and they go, hey, what you said, I think is kind of my deal too. And I was shocked by that. Yep. And even some of the people that sent me this stuff, I would have never thought. Never thought. Yeah.

And so at that point, it clicked and I go, I got to keep doing this. I love that. Yeah, because I think it the surprise of some individuals that either reach out or come up to you in person don't look and. Yes. They don't fit the bill, man. Not what you thought. Yeah. I'm thinking it's going to be some haggard person off the street.

And it never is. It never is. A brown paper bag and all of these. And I'm sure there's folks out there that look and feel like that. But the people that I encountered initially, even the ones that were asking for help were like, looks just like me and we're very normal. Well, because you're around real deal celebrities. Has any huge high profile person ever hit you up and totally knocked your socks off?

Well, one has hit me up, but I'm still convinced that they're never really going to get sober. Yeah. Because it takes another level of just. real digging deep and being really honest. Yeah. And it's a hard step to make to go, I'm an alcoholic. You're right. You're right.

So I've had to reach that point. There's one individual I don't want to give their name, but they, the combos I've had with them, the monologue in my head while I'm talking to them is they need to get sober. But that's not coming out of their mouth. They're like, well, I'm not an alcoholic, but I'm just going to drink wine. I know. It's tough to be, it's tough to keep your mouth shut, isn't it? And not say exactly what you think.

Really hard. They need to hear. Totally. I try to operate from a place of I'm not a doctor. I'm not a therapist. I just know what I've been through and I can offer. But you said something about just at the church that I connect with big time is just when you opened up about what you were going through, then realizing all you're doing

is trying to help yourself and you're trying to be honest and authentic. But then the people that came towards you, you got DMs. You have people in the neighborhood and the community coming up to you. Is there a moment where you were like, wow, like me just being honest about my shit, is helping someone else. Yeah, yeah. Is that a pretty cool realization for you? It was very cool.

And to be honest with you, I love making videos. I like being creative. I like when people enjoy the videos that I put out there. Because if you don't know who I am, people know me as the Dancing Weatherman. So most of my videos are of me dancing in a suit. Instacart knows that some people go bananas about getting the perfect, well, banana. Some want them green, some want them ripe,

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Download the app and get groceries just how you like with Instacart. When you hear someone say like sobriety's weakness or therapy's weakness, What would you say to them? Therapy, sobriety is the exact opposite. I mean, it takes a truly strong individual to admit that they have a weakness and confront that weakness and then consistently figure out a way to combat that weakness. It's the opposite.

I think, you know, honestly, being sober in this world is the hardest thing that you can do. And it honestly will make you the strongest version of yourself. It's hard. It's hard out here. Life is hard. And when you're always numbing your emotions and your feelings with alcohol, to a degree you're making it easier because you're able to deal with the hard part of life by muting it. When you're sober, you feel the highs and the lows and you have to figure out a way to deal with it in a healthy way. And so, yeah, if you're able to figure, and they say that people that have been addicts and then work to not become addicts are better, or I guess more in tune with themselves than the average bear, because they've done that inner shadow work.

And I 100% agree with that. It's really hard to look under the hood at your own shit and look in the mirror. Yeah. I would say, like, for me, like having reality TV, you know, I put a lot out there in the early seasons where I was drinking and was using, you know, Adderall and cocaine. But having that mirror back into me, I don't think. I think I would have gotten sober had it not been for the camera pointing at me. You know, that's interesting.

Because I wouldn't have seen myself act like that. Once I realized I was behaving like that, I hate myself just as much as the audience hates me. Yeah, you could almost see yourself objectively. Yes. And so that's a good point. I bet you- But you didn't have that same luxury. Was there anybody in your life personally or?

Obviously my wife for a while. She goes, I think she's back off 16 years. Congratulations. Thank you. Well, let's shout out to her because being in a relationship with someone who struggles is not easy. Yeah. I used to like a four loco or two. And she used to, yeah.

So she lived through my four loco days, which was. Four locoes were, I actually had a four loco back in the day. That shit is crazy. It will make you, it turns you into a demon for sure. She calls it divorce juice. Luckily, that never happened. But I'm sure she was close to pulling the trigger. But she's been a ride or die for you and someone.

Yeah. And you know what? She actually gave up drinking too. So it happened years after, but she actually gave it up. And to be honest with you, maybe she's got a little tinge of what I have, not to the degree, but once I got sober, then she became the wild one. And it's not like she was doing the stuff that I was doing. It just became a little more apparent.

Yeah, it's more polarizing. We kind of healthily grew together, and now her and I don't do any of that. Love it. It's been great. And our marriage and our relationship has never been stronger. So I have heard that if one person in the relationship stops drinking, a lot of times that relationship will end. And that's kind of sad. Luckily, ours didn't end up that way.

But at a certain point, yeah, the scales did tip. At one point, I was the problem and she wasn't. And then it started going like this. Yeah, you're the good person. And she's the problematic one. Yeah. And so it was interesting. Yeah, it was interesting how that dynamic shifted a little bit.

But we've figured it out. So yeah, shout out to her. No, shout out to her. It's great to hear. We're coming up to an end here, but I have one last thing that I figure out you've said this already. But I'm curious just like, how do you stay grounded?

And how do you protect your mental health today? Well, first of all, I'm too like Midwest to not be grounded. I don't know. I grew up in Ohio. So that's just how I am. And what was the second question? How do you protect your mental health? I guess at this point now I just kind of attack life with the mentality that

everybody loves me. If that's being naive, I don't care. I just assume people like me no matter what. And if they don't, it's their problem. People do like you, I can say. I've seen you on the streets of Greenpoint. Appreciate it. People come out of their woods saying, are you the guy?

They loved you. Yeah. Not to stump you, but we started at the beginning of the interview with this. But we talked about the concept of more life. Obviously, one of my favorite sayings. Right now in your life, is there something giving you more life? Honestly, it's another cliche answer. It would be my son who is 16.

That's not cliche. That's amazing. It's amazing. I think a lot of people would say the best thing in their life is their family, you know, their kids. But now that my kid is 16, it's cool to see him coming of age, you know. Does he exemplify or show you little bits of you when you were maybe 16? Well, that's just what I was going to say. No.

He's totally different. And it is so cool to see him growing up. up and making all the right choices and not falling into some of the traps that I was falling into because at his at his age I was already doing some dirt, you know, and at least from what I can tell, he's not doing any of that. And I don't know if it's a combo, I don't know if it's him just being a good kid naturally or the parenting that my wife and I have raised him with or maybe a combination of the two. But it's just nice to see him grow up with a level head. And he's the coolest dude and I just want to keep being as good as I can be for him.

And so that would be how I'd answer that. Yeah. But if we have a couple minutes, can I ask you a few questions? Sure. I'm sure the viewers would love this. Is that all right? All right. I love what a news guy takes over the interview.

No. I've got it. Okay. So when you found out you're going to be on reality TV, were you nervous? Or like, did that send you into like a celebration drinking spiral? And then also, when did you go from alcohol to cocaine? Because I've never tried cocaine. Thank God.

And I know if I did it once. You would have. Right? It would have been easy. So how did that happen? When the show came about, it was very left field dumb luck. I was friends with Kyle Cook, who's one of my best friends now. But he was someone that they found and really loved him.

And they wanted to kind of follow his friends around. I was one of the friends, but I wasn't immediately in that first group. I found out about it from my dentist, who's a mutual friend of ours. I'm in the chair getting my teeth cleaned about a month before the first season is going to film. This is 2016. I'm at the dentist's office who's a friend of mine who knows Kyle or tells me, your boys are going to be on some reality show. A couple days later, I talked to Kyle and the guys about it.

I did an interview with the producers. I was like, I didn't tell anybody really in my immediate friend group. I told my parents, but I wasn't sure. I was like nervous. I was scared of what people were going to say about me. I was worried about my professional job. I worked at a corporate company at the time in sales. I was kind of over it at that point,

but I didn't call my boss and go, hey, man, I'm going to be on some reality show. Like I kind of was like, yeah, I'm doing a documentary in the Hamptons this summer. So to answer your question, there was a level of fear and anxiousness because I wasn't being honest with everybody in my friend group.

Got it. True story. A friend of mine. And I went to lunch with him in Soho and he tells this story. He's a very funny guy. He tells the story the way I did it. But he's like, yeah, you invited me to lunch. Sit me down at Mother's Ruin.

It's a bar in Soho, which is one of my favorites. And you're like picking my brain asking me if I should, if you should do the show. And I tell you no, don't do the show. And then you're like, well, I'm already doing it. He was upset with me that I basically asked him to lunch to get his advice. So you kind of didn't, you kind of didn't tell anybody. Because of the fear and the shame about what could have happened from this. It's probably a good thing that you didn't tell anybody.

But then I will say there was a period where I was drinking, I'd be out and socializing, and the show had been out for a year. Yeah. And people would recognize me. People were like, oh, that's cool, your umbrella. It fed the ego big time. And that was something I was like, I craved. I felt like a level of fame a little bit.

It wasn't like this crazy fame, but just like you'd go out to the bar and girls would be like, oh, my God, that's the guy. Yeah. And that was like, oh, wow. Yeah, social currency. But in those invites. environments drinking and using cocaine made me feel more confident and just made me. But the cocaine was a part of my story since college.

So it started in college. Started in college, but really were... What about the first time you did it? Were you, like, concerned? No, I was embarrassed, like, nervous that my parents would find out, even though they weren't nearby. But the first thing I thought I was like, oh, fuck, like my brother and my dad and my mom are going to hate me.

If they find out? If they find out. But then the other part was like, I was in Mexico on a guy's group trip for spring break. And it was like, this is awesome, even though it really wasn't. I don't mean to laugh. I just, I understand how that would be the perfect place to do it. It became a thing socially in college. Were you always drinking when you first started?

Cocaine? Yeah. Yes. Alcohol was always going on when the cocaine was going on. Got it. I never once did cocaine without drinking. Oh, really? I mean, probably not.

Most of the time. Most of the time, it was fueled by, I'd been drinking for a few hours. and I was, you feel tired. You're getting sleepy. I need to keep the party going. So I would take, you know, Adderall or do you? That first hit that you did of cocaine, do you remember it? Because everybody talks about it.

I was in a hotel room in Acapulco, Mexico. And it was like a rush of feeling. Went to a nightclub that night. I had a great tan from the beach. I had a button down on, you know, unbuttoned way too low. You were killing the club. We wearing the jeans and the loafers. We had table service in bottles.

We didn't coke. We were cool guys. That was fun then. But then as my career took it, to New York City, I moved here when I was 29 to New York. Yeah. And very quickly living here, I could order drugs fast and I can get a pizza. Right, right.

Bars close at four. I ran and found a group of friends that just were more in my life and were out all the time. And I developed like this persona of like just a party boy in New York. Yeah, got it. But that was my day-to-day life was I was a sales guy, corporate sales. And I wasn't that happy. Yeah. But I would party and create this kind of party monster.

persona. So you had to quit both. Well, starting with alcohol was the most important work. Because without drinking, you wouldn't pray. I would never, and I've seen cocaine since I got sober. I've, you know, I have friends that have partaken here and there and I'm good. It's not for me. Interesting. It's kind of like how I look at someone that eats. I love like red pasta sauce or marinera, but like sausage and peppers and red pasta sauce. If I eat that, I'm going to be like indigestion all night. Yeah. So you just noticed that. I just like, that's not for me. But like, You're like, I don't want that pasta sauce. But I used to say, like, say, like, sayings for all my Coke.

I mean, when you know you have a problem is when you have all these sayings, I would be like, oh, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like the way it smells. That's how crazy I guess. Why did it take me a little too long down to get that joke? My next question, or I guess my last question here is like, do you miss it? Do you ever miss the way that feels? It's a good question. I get this a lot, actually, from friends of mine that still drink. Yeah.

Even friends of mine in the summer house where, like, we'll be out at a party or in the Hamptons having a good time and everybody else is carrying on. And every so often there's a small part of my brain that's like, man, I just wish I could have a couple and just be good. There was another part of me that the silliness and a little bit of like, I don't know, the edge that I had, I felt like alcohol gave me that. I will say, though, I've been able to since I've really gotten my shit together, I really feel like I've tapped into now my real personality, which is silly, which is a little edgy. I've just learned to embrace those kind of waves that I have. Yeah, I think Charlie Sheen, I heard Charlie Sheen talk about it. He said it best. He goes, I miss the first hour of drinking.

After that, it turns into a complete. Same. I miss that first, like, fun, it's exciting. It feels good. That rise. Yep. And then it's right up a fucking cliff. Yeah, that cliff always happens.

So, now the soft bar, by the way, soft bar is amazing, first of all. This is my first time here. It looks awesome. I can't wait to hang out. What a good concept for people that, because now the Cerber Curious movement's huge. This generation is much, much smarter than us millennials and the boomers. I like to say this, and this is my only way I can make sense of the shift in drinking and in our society. Cars, when they were invented in the 1900s, didn't originally have a seatbelt.

Henry Ford didn't think of seatbelts. He just thought of the wheels and everything else. Yeah. We didn't have a seatbelt in a car legally until the 70s. Which is wild. There was like 50 years of a vehicle being on the road without a seatbelt. We realize over time, I mean, that it's unsafe. And cars, cars and alcohol and then combined are literally the most dangerous thing in the United States.

Right. But why it took so long? I mean, I just think we're learning more about our bodies. People's wearing smart watches. You got a smart watch on. Anxiety levels are higher. We're connected more than ever. Sure, yeah.

So I think it's becoming like now we're finally going, okay, like, let's take a look at this. So I'm just, that's where I'm just, that's where I'm just, I think the curiosity of sobriety is coming from is like, we're finally realizing it's not serving us. Which is great. I think it's awesome. I wish the sober curious movement would have happened like 20 years ago, but anyways. Well, you're paving the way in a low-key way, but in a, I mean, I think it's cool about what your story is that you show a lot of confidence. You're still having fun. Yeah, yeah. You dress well. You have a beautiful wife and family. It shows the fruits of putting in the work. And I think it's awesome to watch someone who's overcome

something like you have, but showcasing living your life to the fullest potential. Appreciate it. Which I think is so cool and fun to watch because I think a lot of times the perception is when you get sober, stop drinking, you're boring, you're lame, you're not cool. Yeah. And honestly, you're one of the coolest guys I've met in the last couple years. Hell yeah. And even you being honest about the story in Tribeca, like, that's so amazing that you're

that real. Because I think a lot of people that are going to watch this and tune in are going to feel this the exact same way you did. Appreciate it. Yeah. I think that that's where the real work comes in. Yeah, appreciate it. And next time you go to that party, if I'm inside, you better come in.

Deal. But, Nick, thank you, man. Yes, sir. I know we got to wrap things up. My team's looking at me. They're like, Carl, we could go for hours. But thank you for being here, Nick. I really appreciate you.

My honor. I mean, I just love these conversations and having a guy like him in who's very public. He's got a huge public profile. You've seen him on Fox Weather. He's the dancing weather man. But there's so much more to him that I just didn't realize. And he talks so much about social anxiety that I relate to big time and talking about his relationship with alcohol and his family and what it's done for his professional career.

You've seen this guy on Fox and crushing dances, but the real human being behind that is just an incredible guy. And I hope you guys love this conversation just as much as I did. Thank you guys for tuning into More Life with Carl Radke. Cheers. More Life is produced by Annie Siegel and executive produced by Adam Reynolds and Denham Pictures. This episode was directed by Annie Siegel, edited by Mike Yorathe. and recorded at soft bar studios in Brooklyn, New York.

More Life is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. From Sony, our executive producers are Chris Skinner and Joanna Clay. Original music by Function Adams. Set designed by Michael Ignacio. Publicity by Caitlin Healy. Additional support from Abby Sharp. Special thanks to Allison Shano and Joanna Orland. New episodes drop every Tuesday.

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