More Life with Carl Radke - Selling the OC's Kaylee Ricciardi on Coachella Parties, Navigating Reality TV, and Manifesting Success

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Selling the OC star and real estate agent Kaylee Ricciardi talks about her first season on the Netflix series, managing luxury real estate clients, and curating massive Coachella party houses for celebrities and brands. She also shares how journaling, manifestation, and mindset help her stay grounded while navigating fame and business. This episode is about trusting your gut, chasing big goals, and creating more life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Nispresso, what else? Keep exploring at nespresso.com. Hey, guys, it's Carl Radke. And welcome to more. life. I'm so excited about today's special guest. We've got Kaylee Rishiardi. You might recognize her from the very popular selling OC on Netflix. She's in her first season. Such a fun episode, such a great conversation. We are coming live in Brooklyn at Soft Bar. Can't wait for you guys to check it out. Kaylee Ritchiardi, welcome to more life. Appreciate you being here. Thank you for having me. I'm so

happy to be. It's beautiful. Love your baggy suit. Why, thank you. You look great. Listen, I got to jump right into it when I was talking with my producer, Annie, and I was excited to get you on. You know, you have a ton of exciting things happening. We have a lot of similarities. You're on reality TV. You've really, I think, improved your wellness journey, similar. But you and I actually go way back in a funny way. I searched Kaylee in my text. So your name popped up, but even funnier. I had sent your Instagram into a producer at Summerhouse and recommended you as someone to be a cast member back in 2020. No way. I sent in a couple, like, very attractive britt women, and you were one of them.

Wait, that's so crazy. So I legit put you in. I don't know if I reached out. I'm not very good at reading. They might have DM'd you, which is kind of how they roll sometimes. I don't really look at my DMs. So opportunity lost, but I'm here now.

You could have a summer house casting in your DMs. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to look now and see if they're like, I'm going to search and just see. And if I find something on a sentence, you just said. But I was like, I got to tell her this. This is so funny. Sorry to creep you out. No, I love that.

Sorry, folks. I happen to know Kaylee already. But we're going to talk more. I want to get to know you more. My podcast is called More Life. It's a saying that I used to say drunkenly on reality TV. But it's really all about just living your best life and embodying kind of, I think, authentic lifestyle, being really honest about who you are, doing good things for yourself, but doing good things for other people. And I think that's what gives me more life. So I'm curious for you, what gives you more life? I mean, there's so many answers to that question, but. No wrong answer.

I do a lot of unique self-care. I journal in a really specific way every morning. I meditate. What makes me really happy is taking care of my loved ones and my friends. I am a gift giver in like every sense of the term, you know, whether it's just bringing someone their favorite coffee or meal or just going out of my way to take care of my friends emotionally. If someone's having a breakdown, I'll run there to help them.

I just do anything and everything that's going to feed my soul. And I think sometimes the little things make me feel the best. I love that. So your soul gets fed by helping others. Yeah. Would you say this is who I am? I'm a people pleaser. So some of it, yes, I like helping others, but sometimes it's that.

I have a little bit of the sickness where I'm a bit of a people pleaser for sure. But it's not to an extent where it's unhealthy. I think maybe when I was younger it was. But as I've gotten older, if you can't tell from the show, I don't really give a shit. But, you know, if taking sides is going to make me cool, like, I'm not going to do that. But I definitely like to make people happy. And sometimes it can be at the sacrifice of my own happiness. But I think as I've ever gotten older, I've gotten away from that.

Yeah. I think you learn. Yeah. You know, you sound very wise. I mean, I just turned 36. So I'm an old lady now. No. You know, as a guy, I don't know, you turn 40, it just becomes like this big number.

And I had a friend of mine say to me that, Carl, how old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? And I'm going to ask you that question. Internally, I'm 24. Not because of, like, my personality can be super immature, but just internally, I feel like I'm not a day over 24. I'm a strapping young gentleman. Well, I think that's, yeah, you answered it so well because it's like, no one can really know by looking at you exactly how old you are.

Yes, your mom and dad might be able to know, but it's really up to you. And it's more about a mindset and a mentality. And I think it sounds like you got. Age is a mentality. It is not a number you were stuck with. It is an internal feeling. And I genuinely think and feel if you don't feel your age, you feel younger, and you act younger and you do the things to take care of yourself, I think your actual anatomical age would be younger. Younger.

You know? I think you're on to something. Yeah. I think if I got tested and did like all the things, I would be younger. But I don't know about 24. Yeah. I mean, I might say I'm 25. I want to be able to rent a car without, you know, that extra fee.

So for our, you know, watchers and our listeners, you know, I'm familiar with who you are. But I'm just curious, for the people that may be meeting you for the first time, can you kind of describe who you are and what you do in the all of that? Yeah. My name is Kaylee Richiarty. I am a real estate agent with the O group. I just appeared on selling the O.C. Season four. Snaps, snap. Snap. Snap. And yeah, I just have a background in, you know, modeling, some acting. And I'm just. What did I read about the Coachella world of your real estate life? That is a whole other ballgame. I've got a story for you when you, when you. I'm very excited. Well, it deals with some of the world. our mutual friends. Oh, wow. I was evicted from a Coachella house back in 2016. By me?

Not you, but we were with a group of friends and the homeowner came home one afternoon while we were pre-gaming and partying and basically was like, you guys are using drugs here, there's this, the other thing going on and basically evicted us out. So on Sunday, when we came back from the festival at one in the morning, all of our shit was in the driveway and there was police waiting for us to return because we had been removed. So I stated at like a motel, that night. Did I have anything to do with this rental? I was like, oh my gosh. I thought the Coachella house had some similarity. So you would rent like really nice luxury properties to big groups for Coachella weekends. So I started working at this place called Laguna Seca. It's a dead end street

that is arguably the most famous party street in all of Coachella ever. I don't work there as much as I used to. I still rent those houses. But that got me my start. And now I work with a lot of artists and celebrities and CEOs and people in music. And my niche became not just getting rentals for people, I found a lot of really great event properties. I have huge lots of land, no neighbors. Sometimes they have hangers so you can make, it's like essentially a concert venue. Close the doors be as loud as you want. So I found a lot of those properties.

I feel like the parties that happen outside of Coachella, like the, obviously the music's amazing. But a lot of times the parties and the brand and the activations that are happening outside of the festival are where. I truly have my hand in like a large percentage of all of them. So like I help throw, you know, the. pre-games or the wellness events with, you know, clinic or big brands like that or the ratchet after parties, you know. That's a good segue. Because I'm like, you're doing like professional.

It seems like you've built a really nice career in your real estate world and branding and curating and events and throwing parties. But how do you stay professional in that kind of world where like, yeah, like I'm sure a lot of people are unprofessional at some of these parties? How do you maintain like that level of like professionalism but also like still being yourself? Is that that hard? I love to curate a vibe. That's kind of my thing, is curating.

What's the most important thing in a vibe? Honestly, this sounds crazy, but just energy. You know, the type of people that you have there, if there's homeowners or people management that are really uptight and don't see a vision, it's really hard to execute things. I try to be like a managerial role so I can make sure that everything goes smoothly, permitting's okay. But things I get in the way that can ruin a vibe are just really, you know,

loud, disrespectful party guests. A lot of things can go wrong, but it's just kind of navigating. My job is quite literally navigating things that go wrong. I'm a problem solver. And it's really high stress. So things go wrong all the time. It's kind of hard to pinpoint them, but bad vibes can be usually just from people being disrespectful. Whenever a problem arises, I mean, my producer would tell you this. We had a guest recently that I was worried we weren't going to have the beverage that they wanted to have. And I had a mini freak out. How do you manage some of these problems in like a big party or you have a big client. Is there any tools or tricks you have? Just face it head on, you know, and just go slow, take a deep breath. Sometimes just like a breathing technique for like 15 seconds

can help me like calm down my nervous system because, you know, you know, paris sympathetic nervous system just can go crazy. You just have to take deep breaths count and then get right back to it. And just avoid people. Avoid people chirping in your ear or asking for things and try to just like focus on one. Have you ever had like a flip like flipped out on like a client or guess because of something. Of course. But it has to be so warranted for me to get that upset. You know, I've had my moments where I've like totally flipped out and lost my cool. And then it turns into like me having to apologize. But I wasn't necessarily in the wrong from the beginning. I have never ever had to apologize. If I'm speaking like crazy to you, not crazy, but I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?

It's because you're doing something so absurd that you need to be called out. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I could probably work on my delivery, but it's just kind of how I am. Take it or leave it. Well, speaking of somewhat of delivery, I'm sure this was probably eye-opening for you. Your first season on reality TV. I know when I joined Summerhouse 10 years ago, I had this vision and idea of who I thought I was. And, you know, different kind of show. But, like, what were your expectations going in? How did, like, what you expected it to be compared to what it really was?

Like, was it everything you thought it would be? It was everything I thought it would be, but it was definitely a mindful. And how many seasons had it been in when you joined? This is season four. So there's three seasons. Did you watch one through the three? I watched them. Just to understand everything better and understand who's going to be on the cast.

Like I know Austin and Lisa very well. I've known them for years. So having them as a comfortable, like it was great going in. I think it was just everything I thought it would be. If you ask anyone on set, constantly dancing to my own music, just living my life, eating every second. I always have food to my mouth. I don't know what's going on. If you watch the show, I'm constantly eating.

And I was just trying. I must say, there is something with eating or drinking on camera. Like it kind of... Soothing. Yeah, I'm not nervous necessarily, but I just like to be doing something. So like if you watch somewhere I was very closely, I'm like eating food half of the time. So I actually suffer from anxiety and panic disorder. And at the height of, you know, my issues with it, I did a lot of research and I was told, you know, if you're eating especially like sour candy or certain things, it releases serotonin inside of you, which can actually calm you down.

So eating and drinking is a way to maybe make yourself a little bit unnerves. and maybe subconsciously that's what I was doing. I also just have a big appetite and I eat a lot, but I just snack throughout the whole day. So I'm constantly eating and drinking. As far as the psychological warfare aspect, when people are fighting crazy and it got really messy and dirty and mean-ass accusations,

I was very overwhelmed. And trying to balance one of my business partners who was very, very sick. They didn't highlight it that much, but he was like about to die. I was going back and forth between the hospital for surgeries. He was fucked up. He went septic.

Trying to balance that with all the drama, I kind of hit a breaking point. And I snapped off camera just hysterically crying. I couldn't balance everything. So that was the one time that I was like, this is more than I anticipated it ever being. But everything worked out fine. And the way that the show was like edited, I'm literally myself. I'm not acting, not being fed lines. I'm just being a weirdo.

The depiction of what has been portrayed. Completely accurate. Completely accurate. I got lucky just because, you know, sometimes. Not full conversations are depicted. So you don't see the full picture. But for the most part, I got a 90% higher thing. Yeah, so the show didn't tell you something about yourself that you didn't already know about yourself.

No. Because I will say for my own experience, it was like I thought I was this cocky, successful business guy. But in the reality, I was like an alcoholic asshole. Oh, shit. It was kind of like what was being displayed. That's a different type of introspection to look at yourself like, I need a reel it back. Well, I think like I hope over when people, are on reality TV.

And I think for yourself, as you continue to do this, it's an opportunity to grow and learn. Even, yeah, you were yourself. But I'm sure there's moments with conflict or conversation that you maybe could have done a better job or delivered your line better. Of course, of course. So I always look at it as a way to like to improve your life

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You know, I'm telling you, I don't care about the weird petty fight that you guys are in. I can't take a side because I'm trying to help someone make a will. And I'm physically taking care of someone who's very sick and, like, cleaning wounds. And, like, I can't is more what I was trying to portray. And maybe that came off really harsh. I do care. And I do care about conflict with my friends. But when someone is, like, about to die, I don't know if you've ever experienced serious loss,

that is a different type of mental battle. I was, like, really not okay. And trying to manage that was really hard. And I would imagine it's hard if your energy is shifting because of what you're dealing with there. But then the other side of it is like, well, why is she being such a brat or so annoying? But it's like if you really knew the full scoop. If someone close to you is like, you know, I mean, it was very almost inevitable that he was going to pass. It was that dark.

Yeah. That I was like, I cannot focus on anything else. I don't have anything to give, nothing to give. Totally. But yeah, I definitely know, now that like I've thought about this conversation, I can work on my deliver a little bit. Also, I'm just awkward as shit on camera. Thank you for saying this.

I'm so awkward and I'm constantly fidgeting and nervous. I need to like calm down, take a beat and just be a little bit more eloquent on camera. We're all a little awkward. I get a lot of heat. I am awkward and sometimes, but I think it's just natural. I think I'm getting better. But the first half of the season, I'm like fidgeting every second, like eating. Well, you'll get more comfortable.

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But he was telling me, I think it was last summer. He's like, I'm going out to Orange County. I was like, for what? He's like, I'm doing something. I was like, sweet. You know, have fun, enjoy it. He said it was a very different experience than what we do in New York here for Summer House.

Really? Just different in a good way. But it was more, that's like a more of a business show. Yeah. What we're doing is real work. I mean, like obviously him and Polly, a lot of what they're filming was them going on dates and stuff. But it is very much so real work. I was hustling the whole time. So it's like work, fun scenes, but we're working. Like I'm taking calls like on

camera, off camera, like hustle. And how hard was, because I can relate to like juggling, entrepreneurial and being on a reality show. How did you handle that? You know, when I told my family was going on it, my own family was like, can you even handle that? And I was just like, fuck you watch me. And I think with that energy going in, like I handled everything and juggled it really, really well. And then when Anthony got sick, I stopped struggling very well, and I was struggling to manage everything at the end. But by the way, Anthony is alive and he's well. He's doing so much better. Well, you're an amazing friend and colleague. There's a lot of people that don't like see the behind the scenes. Is there anything that surprised you? Every day.

Sometimes people would have to walk up like four times. So do that surprise you at all? We'd all like clown each other and be like, ooh, your walk-up sucked. You have to do it an eighth time. And then it just be like we would just troll each other. You know what I mean? It was like funny. Did that surprise you? Like that level of. Yeah.

I mean, having to walk. And then crowds kind of form when they see a bunch of cameras and people are kind of like whispering and talking. So it can be a little like embarrassing at times just like being like, oh my gosh, I'm making a scene. Pringy and embarrassing. Yeah. Making a scene right now in this poor restaurant. Okay.

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I mean, did you lose business? Did you gain business? Did people look at you? While we were filming, I lost a lot of business because my job when it comes to rentals and events and stuff during Coachella's season, it is, if you do not respond to an inquiry in an hour, someone else will get it. People go on Airbnb. People are impatient. It comes down to the wire. So I definitely lost out on a lot of business. And I only did a couple of productions. Normally I throw anywhere between. like, I want to conservatively say like four or five up to eight activations per during that month. Wow. I think I did four. It's like half of what I normally do.

So less money, but it's an investment. It's fine. You didn't have any client call you. I'd be like, I can't believe you're on this stupid show. Like, I'm not going to work with you. Actually, people are really excited that I was on the show because it highlights real estate. And all of my clients who worked with me, I act as an advisor as well to a lot of homeowners in the desert, whether it's to buy, to sell, or potential renters in the risk.

I mitigate risk. So a lot of the homeowners when I told them were like, fuck yeah. Bring my house on the show. Like, I'm here to win. You know what you mean? I'm super reliable.

If I'm bringing your house in the show, then people are going to come to me to buy it or rent it. Love that. Let's help each other out. So everyone is, it was very, very well received. Smart.

Yeah, because I would say my, you know, when I first joined reality TV, I had worked a corporate sales job and it was like, I got fired the day the show premiered. No way. But I guess the, like, ethos of your show

was a little more like, Like, let's party. A little bit different. And then also, it wasn't necessarily like about my professional life. It was more just like the weekend and getting drunk and hooking up. I mean, our show is a little bit about that too. A lot of alcohol is involved. But I'm also like very much so.

Well, how do you navigate the alcohol part? I mean, I'm not a huge alcohol drinker. You're not? No, I definitely drink here and there. Yeah. But it's definitely more infrequent than a lot of people would think. Do you find that you were talking about eating food or like, you know, there's certain things that make you feel more comfortable while filming.

Is any of the drinking been something? Drinking sometimes will make me like in the scene where everyone was screaming in each other in Palm Springs at the dinner. I'm like drinking wine. I had like a few drinks of glasses of wine. So I was like a little bit tipsy. But everyone was like very, very drunk. But we're filming all day in the sun is to be expected. But when I'm not really filming or I'm, you know, I can, I'm more of a, I'll sneak a little smoke of my weed pen.

That's just like kind of how I prefer. Everybody's got their thing. Yeah, everyone has their thing. I respect that. Yeah, because a lot of my relationship with reality TV early on was like, oh, you just get drunk. I hate that. Before we started recording, I would be drinking and then show up to the recordings with a couple drinks in me already. So you're lit.

Like a Christmas tree. Holy shit. But I thought that that was what almost was what was required in that environment. It's a party show. We're in the Hamptons. I feel like it kind of is. It kind of is. Like alcohol mixed verb.

It's not required, required. But it makes for better TV and people lose their inhibitions and act fucking crazy. And it's wonderful for TV. Definitely. More fights, too. I gave a lot of stuff to talk about early on. But I will say in the last four or five years, I'm sober now. And there's, thank you.

There's been like an element of like I'm boring and I'm not as like crazy. Oh, I'm still crazy. It's all right there. The mental illness is still right there. It's just more actually myself now. That's good though. You're true of yourself. Don't have the same highs and don't have the same low lows.

It's more of like a wave I ride now. And before it was this crazy roller coaster. But I will say like it's curious like you have a professional show where you know you're selling real estate and you're doing these things. Have you had any like drunken moments of yourself that made you look differently at like what happened? On camera? Yeah, on or off camera. I don't. I made it a point obviously I drank on the show.

You could see me drinking. I made it a point to really not drink that much on camera. I also like, I don't know if I'm just like not good at drinking anymore, but my hangovers from like two glasses of wine, I feel like I've been run over by a bus. I cannot hang. I just like can't do it. I'm sorry to laugh. I'm only laughing because I just, it makes me kind of smile and people tell me about my God. The next day. Yes. Drinking in the moment, fine. It's the next day. Like I'm talking to God. I'm like, please, please make this migraine go away. I can't see it in my right eye. You're not alone. But like, you know, off camera when I'm like at Burning Man or like Coach when everything is set and done and the vent is almost over. It's like three in the morning. Like, I'm ripping shots. I'm like, I'm done. You're like let moose. Give me two tequila shots. My friends, I'm going to just sit on the couch and people watch. Like, that is how I unwind. Unplug for that. Obviously, I get lit here and there. I deserve it. But it's not like anything. But you haven't had any like lit reality moments where you're like, don't remember what

had actually happened until later on when you're watching it. Not yet. Okay. Not yet. I don't, I'm not really like that, but you never know. You never know. I never know. It's happened to me. I had moments early on where I had done things that I didn't even remember it until it actually aired on TV. I think if I was in a situation or as uncomfortable enough, I would really lean into alcohol just to like make myself calm down if I didn't have a fucked down food or like a friend there to like, you know, ease my pain. Well, speaking of friends, like how does that, have you been able to build bonds with the cast? I'm literally friends with everyone. Yeah. But do you lean on one particular person over the other or?

You know. Like I've always had like Kyle Cook is my best friend and him and I've always leaned on each other and I've had some other friends on the show But there's like that one person you can go to and be like yo Like do you have that with your filming? I do While we were filming I'd say like the person I was closest to obviously was Austin and his wife Lisa And I would you know get insight from them here and there But a lot of everything we just try to keep all the conversations on camera because that's just like what you're supposed to do

But since filming is wrapped I've gotten a really really close to Fiona. I just think she's a really sweet girl and we have a really sweet friendship. A lot of transparency, a lot of trust. I literally just got off the phone with her. She might not, she's not having the best morning and like we're always there for each other to like lean on each other. Like I've been crying to her about fucking stupid shit and vice versa. You need that. Yeah. She's a real friend to me. And I'm actually friends with everyone on the cast. I love Polly. I love Alex. I love everyone. Geo. Like brandy, like we're actually friends. So what's the one thing you love the most about being on selling the O.C?

I have a new fucked up family. That's a great answer. You know? I love that. That's how it should be like a family and you're all kind of in this together. Trauma bonded, baby. I love that. It's fun, but like it's very traumatic.

It builds on itself until you do another season. Yeah, because we're going to have another season. And then shit's going to change and shift. And next thing you know, you're going to probably be beefing with Fiona. Scary. But I mean, I'll do my best to navigate. But I come from a family of lawyers. My stepdad is a lawyer mediator, arbitrator.

So, like, mediation and bringing people to an agreement is quite literally in my nature. I grew up with it. Me and my mom beefed really bad growing up. My stepdad would literally, like, mitigate the whole thing. So I think that I tend to be a mediator. So I'm hoping that for next season, I'll be more of a mediator like I have been. It's good to be like the voice of reason or kind of the person that can have a perspective that I think, maybe the audience. I mean, if you're my best friend, you're doing something crazy, I'll still be like, hey, like, I've been back.

But, like, maybe, I don't know if you saw this. perspective, maybe. Now, do you want that, do you want people doing that to you? Of course. No one wants to be wrong or called out. But like if people call you out. I'm doing something crazy or if I'm actually wrong, tell me I want to learn and be a better person, you know.

Not everyone has that perspective. Have you had a lot of calling out of you? No, not really. I mean, sometimes, of course, here and there, you know, if I get in a fight with a friend or something, they'll call me out. I'd be like, damn, I didn't see that perspective. But also, you might be a little wrong. Yeah.

It's always, I mean, I agree. Good criticism and feedback like that is always. I can take feedback and criticism. It hurts like a bitch. It's hard sometimes, though, but it's good. I think a lot of people I've worked with too, no, I can take criticism and stuff. It's like a very important skill to have in life. It sucks, but.

No, 100%. Did you reach out to anybody on the cast prior to, like, making your decision about being on it? Not a person. Not one person. My joining, everything was like a day. It was a interview, a lunch, you're on. Do you want to do it? We're filming like now.

And I was like, what? Wow. So you really have a lot of time to wrap your head to? No, not at all. But I was ready. How do you know you're making the right decision for something like that? My gut. It's like your body?

I have a crazy intuition. Just, I mean, I'm obviously not always right, but my intuition is nuts. Some of my friends call me a witch. That like literally my friend here was like, you are a witch. I will call things before that happen. And I just my gut was like, this is it. This is a great opportunity. What does your gut say about being here today?

I'm so happy to be here. I'm so comfortable too. I feel energy and like my body generally will tell me way. before my brain does. Totally. Body kind of knows what's a good fit or what's not. But it took me some time to honor that because I think my brain also be like, oh, it's, don't trust that. Well, you're so clear right now. I am, but it took me some time to get there. Yeah. And I think if you can really get to that place, it's like such a beautiful, beautiful feeling. So yeah, I'm curious, like, I get this, I actually get questions from this all the time.

I have people that are about to make a decision. Hey, Carl, I'm about to be on. Love is blind. They're casting me. What do you think? And I've taken these calls for the last 10 years. Really? Friends that are considered. So you're an advisor. Yes, in a way, but I don't know if I always give the right advice. So I'm curious, what would be one piece of advice you would give to someone entering the reality TV world based on what you know? Or, I don't know, how would you kind of help them make that decision? First, you know, if I don't know the person well, and I'm kind of just like having a random conversation with them to ask about their support system and, like, their family. and their friends just in the sense like, you know, do you have a good relationship with the people around you because you're really going to need to, I'm not going to say this, but you really

need to lean on your people. And your friends and family may even beyond the shows with you to really tell a more full circle story. Exactly. Also just, you know, like how are you doing mentally? Like it's a lot like do you, you know, do you feel like you can handle the high highs and the low lows? It's a tumultuous experience. For sure. No, that's good advice. I think one thing I've tried to advise, is I think some people have the expectation that you'd get on a reality show and overnight, you're gonna be rich and famous and all these things. And I try to caution people, at least for me on Bravo,

it's been a slow build and we're very lucky. It's been amazing, but early on, it wasn't, we weren't guaranteed another season. You weren't sure where, so I try to caution people like, hey, this could be one and done. 99% of most reality shows don't make it past a second season. So try to caution them on that front.

But I think a lot of people put a lot of eggs a reality basket and sometimes it's not quite what they're looking for. Yeah. So I don't know. Have you had anybody reach out to you and ask for advice? Maybe I don't recall, but not, I don't think so, but if anyone needs advice, I'm happy to talk. Kaylee's your girl.

Well, I'm curious too. Like what is, it seems like you got a good routine and good kind of practice for showing up to filming. For me, like I'll work out in the morning, meditate, and then I show up to filming. I'm clear headed. I feel like I look great. I'm ready to go. What's your pre-filming?

routine. I worked with the literal artist. His name is Chris Georges, who does my hair and makeup. And that process can take anywhere between like two to three and a half hours every morning. So a little self-care hair and makeup. Sometimes we're filming very, very early. But talking to him, he's like my therapist now. I think every hairdresser or hair and makeup person has like a part of their body that's like, he's really just like good to talk to and listen to. And he lets me like work freely on my phone or listen to things if I need to like calm down like a meditation or something. and having time, quiet time in the morning with him to, like, caffeinate and relax is good. And then, you know, sometimes the commute to and from work can be long.

And I listen to- The commute. We're talking about, we're talking California here. There's not a lot of commuting. Yes. Well, there's commuting in New York, but it's a little bit different. It's crazy in California. Sometimes set as far away. How long would you say your commute is?

At max? At very max two and a half hours. At minimum, you know, 20 minutes. It's just, it depends on traffic and location and everything. And I listen to a lot of manifestation podcasts and stuff in the car or just, music at certain like hurts to like calm me internally. Sure. And then I show up to set and try my best. Rock it out? Yeah. Would you say you're that other part of your brain psychology, the manifestation, has that helped your real estate world? Because you're like

understanding people. Yes. But also like that energy you're bringing, you're maybe passing it off to a client. A lot of people think like the manifestation stuff when I'm talking about it or like from far it's woo-woo. Some sounds a little woo-woo. I have a friend of mine. I love her. She's super cool, but I hear her talk and I'm just like, it doesn't fully land sometimes. It just seems so... There's different practices and elements to it, but I told you about this before, but I journal. So if there's like a client or a client I really want to work with or a deal I really want to go through, I journal in a very certain way and I write a very certain way and like, I'm so grateful this deal went through. I'm so grateful I sold this $20 million house. I'm so grateful I obtained this client

as if it's already happened. And I have changed my brain to know that this. This outcome has already happened. This has already happened. I feel this in my soul. It's already a done deal. And I swear to God, like the efficacy, like the amount of things that have actually gone through compared to when they have before is tenfold. And it's not just from the show.

This is before the filming. You believe in yourself. I believe in myself. And I write in a certain way. And I believe things in a certain way. And I listen to the podcast and the meditations and the breathwork all combined. Like I feel, I know this sounds in. saying, I feel powerful. Like, it's magic. It makes no fucking sense. I'm not into the woo-woo stuff.

This shit works. This shit works. No, I trust it works. I think it's just kind of getting, finding the right. You create your own destiny. Yeah, it's so true. You create your own future. And if you really believe in your soul, almost to a point of being to Lulu, shit works out. It's nuts. I mean, I love this stuff because I'm always looking, I'm always looking to improve myself and the manifestation thing, that thing. This is a topic that's like, for whatever reason, makes me a little uncomfortable, but I think it's because there's growth in it for me. Typically, when there's something really uncomfortable, it's like a good thing. Do you need to lean into it? You need to lean in. You need to like embrace it. And I've been challenged a lot to journal more.

I have a challenge of like not really feeling like I'm worthy or really believing. I do believe myself, but there's another part of my brain that opens up sometimes. It's like, oh, you're not good enough. waiting for the other shoe drop. Can I teach you certain things prompts to write? And even if you don't believe it. Now, when you're journaling, you're handwriting or do you type in your phone? No, no, no, no, I handwrite. I mean, you can type it for sure, but I think it's more effective when you're physically

writing. I'm a handwriter. Me too. So I'll give you prompts and things to say, and they might sound fucking delusional and like kind of weird. But if you get in the habit and you make five minutes every single morning for me for like three weeks and I tell you exactly what to write and you do your best to do it every single day, you're going to start to see a change and you're going to be like,

what is happening? Like, what's happening? I need this. It's weird. I was challenged by one of my producers four or five years ago. I'd just gotten sober. And again, I talk very negatively to myself. That's bad.

And this is stuff I've worked on. I'm still getting better. But there was a self-talk seminar. It's called the Huffman Institute. I know everything you're about to say. This is how bad I am. I'm being completely honest. I've never actually shared this publicly.

I paid for the $800 course. signed up for it. And then out of panic, I can't do this. I'm not worthy and it didn't even show up. No way. It's like hard to get into that too. It's like a wait list. Yeah, I like signed up many months in advance. Time came around to that day and I just was like, I'm fine. I don't want to go. And I psyched myself out of it. One little bit of advice that I've like had to like ingrain in myself the past like a year and a half. Self talk is really, really important. My humor, I think similar to yours, it's like self-deprecating. Always.

I joke around, being like, I'm a little boy. Like, you know, like, just, I talk shit to myself because I think it's funny and I think that's like received by my friends. Yeah, there's nothing that you can say to me that I haven't already said to myself. Yeah, if I say the negative thing first, then you can't say it. It means nothing. You know what I mean? I disarm it by.

Exactly. However, I'm telling you, if you really are cognizant about the things, especially you say out loud, don't say I'm not worthy. Do not say I'm a loser. Like, don't say anything negative. about yourself out loud. I know that sounds weird. You're creating that type of energy. I'm telling you if you really are cognizant and careful about the words that you think, but especially you say out loud about yourself, it's also going to change things. It's weird. My therapist tries me out of

this loop of, I recruit people to my misery. Okay. Well, misery loves company, you know. Exactly. And sometimes the negativity I feel and think, I very loud. And I'm like, asking, I'm like, oh, I'm a piece of shit. Like, those you agree with me? Stop saying that and stop looking for validation with that because you have no reason to feel that way. I think maybe you're carrying some like guilt or shame from some behaviors or just I'll call and stuff in the past.

Well, I'll say what part of it too is, and you probably have seen this, I'm curious, the audience reactions and social media comments, Reddit threads, I'm sure, and you probably get DMs from people all over the place. How do you handle the commentary on your shit? know and about you. Because that's where that just like I'll get a DM saying you've helped me. You're a piece of shit. These are like three separate messages all in the same like you've helped save my life. I think you're the biggest piece of shit on TV. You have huge ears and you're ugly. Those are like the three messages in a row. And that builds on itself. How do you like how do you like

make it through? What's your, do you just not pay attention? Do you read them? I read everything which is it's an illness. People say you're not supposed to. I'm like if someone sends a How could I not? If you get mail to your door, do you open up the mail? Fucking course. Of course. So I look at it. DMs are just like a letter that you receive.

I think I've gotten really, really lucky. Best case scenario, I think from journaling, meditating. And this was something that I wrote down that I would be well received because I'm going to be authentic. And I think luckily, like 99% of everything that has come to me has been positive. And I am so grateful because I'm sensitive. I'm a sensitive person. and I care what people think because I don't want to rub someone the wrong way.

But the negative comments that have been coming in in like, you know, handfuls because 99% is a lot. But keep in mind, there's thousands of people coming in. I've gotten some, a decent amount of negativity regarding my looks, which hurts. Makes me feel like maybe I should like fix some things about myself or look a little more feminine and stuff. People are saying I kind of like look manly or whatever, which doesn't feel good. I want to like lean into my femininity and like feel like a beautiful young woman. But, you know, just trying to laugh it off when people, you know, are negative about it. It's kind of hard.

It's hard. I think going through, like, your first season. But over time, I hope you can continue to build tools to, like. Yeah. My friends and family are a soundboard for it, but I've just gotten really, really lucky. And I love all of you guys for being nice to me because I'm sensitive. So it means a lot. And I read everything you say.

And I really care. And it means a lot to me because I just want to be a good person and make people around me better. I appreciate you being human and saying you're sensitive. I am also very sensitive. So I got one last thing for you. Please. So obviously we talked about the concept of more life. And it's one of my favorite sayings.

But is there a favorite phrase or saying that you like to embody or a mantra that you live by? I don't know. What was your back in the day? Do you ever have AOL instant messenger? Of course. Did you have like a quote in there or like a saying? I could not tell you. But one of the things like when I'm journaling that I write down, it's not necessarily that I ever say this.

I've never said this out loud. But what I write down that I try to like internalize is I'm grateful, I'm thankful, I'm powerful, I'm powerful, I'm love, I'm light. Love that. How many was that five? I am grateful. I'm thankful. I'm powerful. I'm powerful.

I'm love and I am light. Light. Just I write those over and over again and I try to like feel that inside. So I don't know if it's my motto, but that's what I feel inside. No, you answered that and nailed it perfectly. Thank God. No, so thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for having.

This is really fun. No, I appreciate it. This is not scary. I was going to be intimidating. No, you are natural. You have such an interesting story, and I really appreciate just how you've looked at, like, your professional life, but also like your personal and the manifestation. And you have such a confidence about you. Thank you.

It's really cool to see. I appreciate it. We're going to work on that with you. I would love to give you some tips and tricks because I want you to feel better and sad because I feel like you will ease your. It's, yeah, I think I've allowed a lot of. of the reality TV world. I take a lot of the negativity. You've been in it for so long, so I get it. I'm new here. I can only imagine. I've given a lot to talk about, and I'm not saying I was perfect by any stretch, but when you have a lot of voices and opinions and over years and years of that,

painful. It's hard. I mean, not only about your personal, like, my drinking and drug use was certainly a big topic, but then people can have a lot to say about that. I've had a lot of support on that, but then you mentioned physical. I've thought about getting my ears pinned back, because of the amount of things people say about how big my ears are. And this is something I was bullied since I was a kid. I was called Dumbo growing up. I love my ears. But they are big.

I get it. It's fine. I feel the same way about my physical. That feedback loop over time has really started to somewhat seep in a little bit. Even when I think I've got to figure it out, it comes back in a little way. You know, I think you're actually really, really strong for having to deal with all that backlash for that many years. It's hard for me to even fathom so I can understand how it can get in. internalized.

Yeah. So I get it. I'm barely here and I'm already like, do I need to like fix myself? I'm like, well, I think, you know, you, it's important for you to like, I think just open up about that because you're not the only one that's had a reality TV experience. And then a lot of what comes in, their DMs is like talking about their appearance. Get your nose done. Or your weights.

Or your mental health. Yeah. My body. Like, do you eat? I'm like, oh my goodness. People have so much to say. But I'm trying my best to stay strong. I'm all natural, but maybe I won't be, I don't know.

I don't know what I'm going to do. You got to do what's best for you. Yeah, whatever's going to make me feel best I'm going to do. I'm just trying my best to not make that decision based on people's opinion of me. Sure. Do you know what I mean? It's just hard. Well, thank you again for being here.

Ladies and gentlemen, Kaley Rishiardi, you're amazing. So nice to meet you guys. Appreciate you. Thank you to Kaley Rishiardi, and thank you guys for joining us on More Life. More Life is produced by Annie Siegel and executive produced by Adam Reynolds and denim pictures. This episode was directed by Annie Siegel, edited by Mike U.R.T. and recorded at Soft Bar Studios in Brooklyn, New York. More Life is a production of Sony Music Entertainment. From Sony, our executive producers are Chris Skinner and Joanna Clay. Original music by Function Adams. Set designed by Michael Ignacio.

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