More Money Podcast - 042 Turning Setbacks into Greenbacks - Dr. Williey Jolley, Motivational Speaker, Radio Host & Author
Episode Date: March 23, 2016Dr. Willie Jolley, an award-winning motivational speaker, Sirius XM radio host and author and I talk about how he turned his setbacks into major successes. If you're looking for an incredibly motivat...ing podcast episode with a lot of useful advice on how to be more positive and how to turn your failures into opportunities, this is the episode for you. Also listen for a free gift in today's episode to help you on your journey to a more positive, balanced and wealthy life. Long episode description: If you need some major motivation and inspiration, this is the episode for you. I interview the amazing Dr. Willie Jolley, an award-winning motivational speaker, Sirius XM radio host and author, about how he went from unemployed lounge singer to successful businessman. Willie’s story is a story I think we can all relate to. He thought he had it made as a singer, and was living a very comfortable life. But one day his boss said they needed to make some cuts — and one of the cuts was him. Not only that, but he was replaced by a karaoke machine. Instead of wallowing in despair or throwing his hands in the air and giving up, he did the opposite. He made it his mission in life to turn his setbacks into comebacks (and eventually greenbacks), and now Dr. Willie Jolley has a thriving career motivating others to do the same. I’m including a number of links below to things Willie and I talked about in this episode, but I also want to include the 7 keys to success that he talks about more in-depth in his latest book Turn Setbacks into Greenbacks. You will definitely want to check out his books and his speeches on YouTube, but here’s a little something to get you started on your journey to a better and more prosperous you! Don’t panic. Don’t willingly participate nor commiserate in the gloom and doom. Don’t let your pride poison your prosperity. Don’t stop thinking about the power and possibilities of tomorrow. Be proactive. Be creative. Be prayerful. The Book that Changed Willie Jolley’s Life Think and Grow Rich by Napolean Hill (1937) Willie Jolley’s Special Gift to You! Visti williejolley.com/gift to nab some free, amazing gifts Check Out Willie’s Motivational Books A Setback Is A Setup For A Comeback It Only Takes A Minute To Change Your Life An Attitude of Exellence Turn Setbacks into Greenbacks Listen to Willie’s Sirius XM Show Wealthy Ways Radio Show Follow Willie on Social Follow Willie on Twitter Follow Willie on Instagram Like Willie on Facebook Subscribe to Willie on YouTube Shownotes: jessicamoorhouse.com/42 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Mo Money Podcast with your host, Jessica Morehouse.
Hello and welcome to episode 42 of the Mo Money Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me today.
I'm very excited to share my next interview with an amazing and inspirational man, Dr. Willie Jolly.
He is the host of the number one motivational self-help radio show on SiriusXM,
Wealthy Ways. He's also an award-winning motivational speaker, and he's been inducted into the Speaker Hall of Fame. And he is also an author of several books, including It Only
Takes a Minute to Change Your Life, A Setback is a Setup for a Comeback, Turn Setbacks into
Greenbacks, and An Attitude of Excellence. And if that weren't impressive enough, he also holds a
doctorate in theology. And he is here to talk to me today about his journey. He's an inspiring
story of basically having his job replaced by a karaoke machine and trying to figure out what to
do next. And he is just an amazing person who has basically,
if you need a kick in the pants,
if you need some motivation to get to the next level,
to turn your setbacks into comebacks,
this is the episode for you.
Thank you, Billy, for joining me on the show today.
It's a pleasure talking to you.
It's a privilege and a pleasure, a treat and a treasure
and a joy beyond measure for me to be on with you.
Wow.
Well, that's awesome.
How do you like that?
How do you like that?
I like that a lot.
Good.
Now, let me tell you how I start every interview as I'm going to energize your audience with this one.
I have only just a minute, only 60 seconds in it.
Forced upon me can't refuse it.
I didn't seek it.
I didn't choose it.
But it's up to me to use it.
I must suffer if I lose it.
Give account if I abuse it.
Just a tiny little minute, but an eternity is in it.
Greetings to everybody who's listening and to everybody who will use this information to help them to grow and go
to the next level. Absolutely. And where is that from? You didn't make that up, did you?
No, I did not make that up. That is called God's Minute, and it was written by Dr. Benjamin
Mays. Dr. Mays was the president of Morehouse College and a great educator and theologian and
philosopher. He was instrumental in the life of one of his mentees, who you might know his name
maybe per chance. His mentee's name was Martin Luther King Jr. Oh yeah, I've heard of that guy. You've heard of that guy somewhere? Oh, yeah.
And Dr. Mays met young Martin, who they called ML.
He met him at 15 years old when Martin Luther King Jr.'s father brought young ML to Morehouse
College at the age of 15 and said, Dr. Mays, this is my son who will be going to college
here in the fall. He's 15, just graduated from high school and will be going to college. He's a
very smart boy going to college at 15. And I would like you to inspire, empower, and encourage him
to do great things. So Dr. Mays taught young ML that piece, as well as some other pieces that I've
written and used in my books. And those pieces, when I finally got hold of them, 20 or 30,
25 years ago, when I started reading them, have changed my life. So I want to continue that
legacy. And that's why I start every interview with that message. Oh, I love it. I love that.
So, Willie, you have an amazing story.
Let's kind of start from the beginning where you used to be a lounge singer and you kind of, you know, were having a good time doing that, making good money,
and then everything kind of changed when you kind of got the boot.
Yes, great story.
I had a setback.
So I was a nightclub singer, a jazz singer, an entertainer, a jingle singer.
I was singing jingles during the day in the nightclubs and lounges at night.
And I sang jingles for a lot of the commercials you've heard on the radio over the years.
Pizza Hut making it great.
We work well
together news for and you v-e-t like entertainment tv so i sang lots of jingles over the years and
made a living singing jingles and making a living doing that and then i was singing these lounges
and so forth at night and uh singing'd sing in these nightclubs.
Then I built one of those nightclubs into one of the top night spots in Washington, D.C.
It became the number one spot.
People were lining up at 7 o'clock for an 8 o'clock show, 9 o'clock for a 10 o'clock show.
I became the feature entertainment
on the weekends, Thursday, Friday,
Saturday, and we were doing well.
I won the award Best Jazz
Singer, Best Entertainer.
We have an award in Washington called
the Washington Area Music Association
Award. It's like the Grammys, and
we call it a whammy.
Washington Music Association Award.
I won it five times in a row. Best jazz singer, best entertainer, best performer.
Things were going great.
We were packing them in.
Well, one night I came to the nightclub.
The club owner said, I want to talk to you after the night show.
I told the guys in the band, we've been selling out for months.
We got standing room only audiences.
We're about to get our raise.
So I went in his office that night.
He said said you were
great i said thank you the people loved you i said thank you that's what's hard for me to tell you
what i gotta tell you now that we made a lot of money the owners of the club said they got to get
a better return on investment and the only way to do that with a full nightclub is the low of the
cost and the band's the biggest cost and there's something else going
around the country that's filling up nightclubs that's a lot cheaper than a band and we we're
going to try that for a while we bought a karaoke machine and I said but I can't believe that what
about my bills and I learned that night that nobody cares about your bills, but you and the people
you owe. And I went home and I told my wife, I said, I've got to do something else with my life.
This is not working. I did everything right. I worked hard. I built their business. I put out
my own dollars to send out mailing lists. I did radio interviews, television interviews to build their business, and I still got fired.
I still got sacked.
And you know what I learned?
A lot of people in America are similar places today.
They were good employees.
They worked hard.
They did their best.
They gave all they had, and they got downsized because of numbers.
It was a numbers game.
It had nothing to do with their performance.
It just had to do with numbers.
They might have got replaced by some new technology.
It was not performance-based.
And I got angry that night, and I said, you know what?
I'm going to change my life.
I'm not going to let someone else control my destiny anymore and I took a job while I was trying to figure out what I was
going to do I took a job with the Washington DC public school system as a drug prevention
coordinator talking to little kids about staying away from drugs. And it was during that year I discovered an ability I didn't know I had.
And for the little kids, the teachers would say,
could you come to my teacher's association?
And someone at the teacher's association would say,
can you come to my church?
And someone at the church would say, can you come to my company?
And then someone in the company would say, you know,
can you come to my association?
And it continued to grow and it just continued to bloom and blossom.
And one day, Les Brown, the great motivational speaker, was coming to the hotel where I was speaking in a little ballroom, and he was going to be speaking in the big ballroom.
And he happened to walk by the ballroom where I was speaking and heard me speak and sing.
And he said, you know what, you have something unique.
And I'm starting a tour called the Music and Motivation Tour.
You'd be the perfect opening act because you do both.
And so a few months later, we kicked off the Les Brown Dream Team Music
and Motivation Tour, which featured Les Brown, Billy Preston, Gladys Knight,
and a little guy from Washington DC who was the opening act me
and because of that that's amazing and then Les and Gladys took me around and introduced me to
media people and I got a little radio show called the motivational minute and the motivational minute
got popular and got syndicated and then led from that to radio to television with the Motivational Minute on television on CBS stations, which led to even longer programs on CBS and then PBS television.
And then that led to Sirius XM, where I'm honored to say today I have the number one motivational show in America on Sirius XM radio across America on channel 141 and have been
on the station for now 10 years. And then that led to one day a book publisher calling and saying,
I heard you on the radio, loved your ideas. I'd like to see if you're interested in writing a
book. You'd be interested in writing a book. And I said, well, I don't know. He said, let me make
you an offer. I said, I just thought about it.
I think I can do that.
And so I wrote my first book called It Only Takes a Minute to Change Your Life.
And it became a bestseller, national bestseller.
Then my second book, A Setback is a Setup for a Comeback, became an international bestseller,
took me around the world.
Then An Attitude of Excellence. then Chicken Soup for the Christian Soul,
and my newest book is called Turn Setbacks into Greenbacks.
So it's been amazing.
And then in 1999, I got a call from Toastmasters International.
They said, you've been named one of the top five speakers in the world for this year,
and former winners include Colin Powell, Norman Schwarzkopf, Nelson Mandela, Margaret Thatcher, Christopher Reeve.
And I said, what?
Are you sure you got the right person?
My name is Willie Jolly.
And they said, you're the one.
And I said, but you must be mistaken.
Those are big dogs.
And the lady said something I'll never forget.
She said, let me tell you something.
Little dogs keep yacking loud enough and strong enough, big dog start to hear about you.
So amazingly, now I've been named one of the top five speakers.
I've been inducted in the Speaker Hall of Fame.
But it's just the tip of what's yet to come.
And I've continued to work hard and continue to travel.
Now I'm honored to be on the Get Motivated Tour.
Tonight I'm in Mobile, Alabama.
Tomorrow I'll be in New Orleans.
And I replaced the legendary Zig Ziglar on the tour. Tonight I'm in Mobile, Alabama. Tomorrow I'll be in New Orleans. And I replaced the
legendary Zig Ziglar on the tour when he passed. For many years, Zig Ziglar and General Kohler-Powell
were the keynote speakers. And I'm grateful when he passed, they called me to replace him.
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So one question I have, because that is such an amazing story, but what I feel like, you know,
people listening will, you know, can definitely identify with how you were at the beginning, losing your job and not knowing what to do.
What kept you going?
That seems like a really tough, you know?
Here's what everybody can take from that, and I want to make sure people don't.
Because you're right.
Many people can identify with the losing the job, the setback, the challenges, the difficulty.
What was the difference?
It was my attitude.
It was my attitude that made the difference. And let me tell you what happened. When I lost my job, I was
depressed. I was discouraged. I was down in the dumps. But a friend of mine did something for me
that changed my life. He gave me a book and a motivational tape. He gave me a book called Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill,
and he gave me a motivational tape.
And in that tape was a quote that said,
in five years you'll be the same person you are except for two things,
the people you meet who inspire you and empower you,
and the books that you read that motivate and lift you up.
And that, quote, changed my life because I started listening to motivational
tapes.
The people, I might not be able to meet them personally,
but they helped to empower my attitude, to increase my possibility thinking, and the books I read.
So that's what I've been doing, and I'm grateful for that, and it has changed my life.
Those books, those audios, those people I met, even if I didn't meet them in person,
I met them by audio, I met them by video, I met them in a seminar.
I might not have gotten to shake their hand or take a picture with them, but I heard their
message, and it changed my attitude.
And that is how all those other things started happening because I refused to
give up and I kept expecting good things were going to come from my efforts.
It's called hope.
You know, hope is an interesting word because hope says that you don't know
what's going to happen from what you're doing or what's going to come tomorrow, but you are expecting it with open arms.
And that's what hope.
There were two little, the power of hope.
There were two sets of frogs, and they did this experiment.
They took one set of frogs, they put them in a bucket of water, and they kept them there until their air was almost extinguished.
And at the last minute, they pulled them out.
They caught their breath.
They took a new set of frogs and the old set of frogs and put them in two separate buckets
of water at the same time.
And they kept them in there until their air was almost extinguished, and they kept them
in one more minute.
The new frogs, who had not been through anything gave up and died.
But the old frogs who had been through this before expected something good
would come and they held on and they lived.
That's the secret to this.
You've got to have hope.
And these books and audios gave me hope for the future so that I could keep holding on in the tough moments.
And that's what I want to encourage everybody who's listening to your show right now to do.
You might have gone through a divorce.
I had a lady come up to me about a year ago.
And she said, my husband just left me.
We were married for 29 years. And he found a younger woman and he left me. We were married for 29 years,
and he found a younger woman,
and he left me.
I don't know what to do.
I'm devastated.
I was a housewife.
I was a homemaker,
and I raised the children,
and now he has no need for me.
What do I do?
I said, here's what you do.
You don't crawl up and die.
You don't crawl up and die.
You go forward with hope that the future will be better than the past and that
good things are waiting around the corner. And I talked to her. She said,
you really think so? I said, absolutely. She heard my story. She said, okay,
I'm gonna give it a, I saw that lady about two months ago.
She ran up to me, hugged my neck. She said,
you don't know what kind of year I have had.
It's been the absolute best year of my life.
I've gone to places I've never gone before.
I've traveled around the country.
I've gone to different kind of functions.
I've met wonderful new people I would have never met before.
My life is fabulous.
Because she had hope.
So whether you're going through a divorce,
whether you're going through a downsizing like I had,
whether you're going through a disease,
some sort of diagnosis that's not positive,
you got to have hope.
You got to have hope.
Whether you're going through a disaster, your house might have been destroyed in a storm
or you might have had a car accident
and you didn't have the money to fix it.
Whatever you're going through, when you have hope and a positive attitude, you will start to see that good things will start to come your way if you just don't give up.
Absolutely.
I completely agree.
And I feel like definitely as I grow older, I understand how important that really is.
And, yeah, it's funny because I've never really put a name to it.
Yeah.
But hope is a great word to use because, yeah, every year I just kind of hope that the next year will be better.
I always try to put on a positive attitude even if I don't feel it.
You know, kind of the old sayings like smile even if you don't want to smile.
It really does make all the difference.
And yeah, when you put positivity out there, I do feel like you do get positivity back.
You get nothing when you're negative.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
You know, there's an old saying that says, if you're positive, will everything always go perfect?
No.
But it will go better than when you were negative.
Yep.
That is very true.
So this new book turns setbacks into greenbacks.
Yes, I want to talk about it.
Well, what it does is it gives you hope with your finances.
So the setback is a setup for a company.
Oh, first of all, let me give everybody a little gift.
You know, that guy changed my life when he gave me that book and that audio.
And so Think and Grow Rich has been probably the singular next to the Bible, the most powerful book I've ever read in terms of changing my thinking.
The Bible is number one.
But I'm going to give everybody a copy of that book.
How do you like that?
I like it a lot. And I bet everyone listening is going to like it a lot.
I want to give everybody a copy of that book.
Go to willijolly.com slash gift.
willijolly.com slash gift, and you can download a copy of the book.
I was on the Napoleon Hill Foundation faculty last year
with 52 other people who talked about the impact of that book on his life, some of the greatest achievers.
And as a result of that, they said, you know, what is it that we can do for you?
I said, let me help others like I've been helped.
So they allowed me to give it to my friends.
So your folks and your listeners will be my friends.
And so anybody who wants to get a copy, just go to Willie Jolly, W-I-L-L-I-E-J-O-L-L-E-Y.
Put an E in Jolly, like Jolly Green Giant,
williejolly.com and at the end for this backslash slash gift,
you'll get the book.
You'll get another book called Leaps of Faith and you'll get some audio
interviews from my SiriusXM show
with people who changed my life.
So that's my gift to everybody.
Just like somebody helped me, I want to help somebody else.
That's amazing.
And by the way, I love your show.
I was listening to it the other day, and oh man, was I so pumped up just to take on the
world.
Amen.
Amen.
I know. But yeah, let's talk about your book. I think it's such a
great idea because it's not just a normal, you know, finance book that tells you about numbers
and how you can save and how you can invest. But it's more about, yeah, kind of, you know,
taking those setbacks, making them into comebacks in terms of your money.
Yeah, it's about the attitude. It really is about the attitude it takes to create success after you've gone through tough
times.
And what is it going to take?
What kind of mindset does it take?
Now, these are not just lessons that I propagate.
These are lessons I've learned from people who have had on my accent shit over the last
10 years.
Many of them went from broke to millionaires,
and some even to billionaires.
And they gave strategies that helped them to do it.
And they might be in different businesses, so none of them are in the same business,
but the mindset is what makes the difference.
And that's what I thought was consistent in everybody I interviewed.
Once I compiled all the information and the data, the research of all these
interviews, hundreds of interviews, I found there were seven principles that
they all would talk about in their messages.
They might use different words for them, but there were seven consistent principles.
Those principles were,
number one,
don't panic.
That's first.
Don't panic.
There's a natural
inclination
to panic when things go bad.
It just is, oh, my God, what am I going to do?
What am I going to do?
I lost my job.
What am I going to do?
I'm going through a divorce.
He just told me he doesn't want me married.
What am I going to do?
I just got diagnosed.
What am I going to do?
Oh, my God, are you panicked?
Don't panic.
That's first of all.
When you have a setback, don't panic.
Panic is taken from the Greek word to choke.
Oh,
okay.
And when you choke,
you,
you,
you cut off the air to your brain or you can,
or you cut off the air to your heart.
You can't breathe.
So that's why people hyperventilate.
And when you panic,
you cut off the air to your brain.
So you cannot think clearly.
And if you cannot think clearly, you cannot make wise decisions.
And if you want to make a decision when you're panicking, it's probably going to be a poor decision, a bad decision.
1929, there was a stock market crash.
People panicked, and many of them jumped off of bridges, blew out their brains, not realizing the market would come
back bigger and better than ever.
This too shall pass.
Okay, this too shall pass.
So whatever you do, do not panic.
There's no power in a panic.
So don't panic.
Number two, don't willingly participate nor commiserate in the gloom and doom.
So you're going through a tough time. People have been downsized and everybody say, oh,
woe is me. Don't participate in that. Don't sit around saying, oh, woe is me. Start saying,
whoa, this is a great time to be alive. Now, things are not perfect,
but I can turn this around. When you have that, don't buy into all that gloom and doom. In other
words, don't listen to all the naysayers, the negative people, the people who propagate all
the negative talk. Don't buy in. A lady came up to me one day and said, I hear you talking on the
radio. And I hear you all that positive stuff,
but didn't you know that Circuit City went out of business
and Lennon's and things went out of business and that unemployment is 10%?
I said, unemployment 10%?
She said, yeah.
I mean, that means to me that 90% of the people are still working.
All right, they can buy my book.
I better keep working.
I better get the word out.
So that is where you flip the negative and start to see positive.
Look, I want people to write this right.
In every blessing, there's a burden.
In every burden, there's a blessing.
Okay?
You just got to start to look at it from another perspective.
What you look for is what you'll find. In the desert, there are two
creatures
that are predominant.
A hummingbird
and a vulture.
The hummingbird
looks for life and finds it.
The vulture looks for death
and finds it. Whatever you look for,
you'll find.
If you look for the gloom and doom,
you'll find it.
But if you look for the positive in life,
the good in life, you'll find it as well.
So don't willingly participate
nor commiserate. Don't buy into
that gloom and doom.
Don't let your pride
poison
your prosperity.
Yep, yep. This is a big one. So people tend Pride poison your prosperity. Yep.
Yep.
Okay.
This is a big one.
So people tend to find times when they're in a tough moment.
They're upside down in their mortgage.
They're behind on their bills.
They just lost their job.
And they're not sure what they're going to do, and they stop themselves from doing anything because they're afraid of what people will think or what people will say.
I'm telling you, don't let your pride poison your prosperity.
You might have to get a second job driving an Uber or a Lyft
or walking at Walmart or even working at McDonald's or something.
I don't know what you might have to do,
but don't stop yourself from getting out of that mess.
As long as it's legal and moral, it's okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
And it's not permanent.
I think that's the important thing.
That's right.
It's not permanent.
It's just to get you past this little bump in the road.
So I have had friends who have done part-time work as security guards at night and have been able to get past that tough moment or help themselves out to help dig out a hole.
I've had friends who took jobs as driving an Uber because they just had to, you know, I got a little tough moment here.
But it wasn't forever.
They did it long enough to be able to get their
finances in order. And then they went back to doing what they did before.
So all of that, there are seven steps. I won't go through all seven, because I know you've got,
we've got limited time. But the first is don't panic. Don't willingly participate. No commiserate.
Don't let your pride poison your prosperity. Number four is don't stop thinking about the power and the possibilities of tomorrow which means when
you're going through a tough time keep one eye on the problem but also one eye on the possibility
keep your dreams and goals working all the time even if you're dealing with a foreclosure remember
what your goal is what your dream is what you're trying to do. Number five is be proactive. Proactive is taken from the book,
The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey. That's a very powerful word. I was
on tour with Dr. Covey in Australia. God bless him. He passed away two years ago, but we were
on tour about three, four years ago in Australia and Sydney.
And I asked him actually, I said, what are the most powerful of the seven habits?
He said that two of them are the most powerful.
Win-win, think win-win, and be proactive.
So be proactive means to take action before you need to.
In other words, here's how we really should say it.
Don't wait for your ship to come in.
Swim out to it.
Swim out to it.
Get on the ball and go on and swim out to that ship
and don't worry about the fact
that it's not coming as quickly.
Go get it.
Don't wait.
Jonathan Winters,
the great comedian,
said,
I kept waiting for success to come
and it didn't come to me
so I went to it.
Okay. So you got to go and it didn't come to me. So I went to it. Okay.
So you got to go and be proactive.
Go make stuff happen.
I like you.
You made this show a popular show online, all over.
My publicist said, he said, you've got to be on her show.
She's fantastic.
I said, well, he said there are thousands of shows who do podcast,
but she has worked hard.
She's got an audience.
You know,
it didn't come to you.
You went to it.
You made it happen.
All right.
So I want to applaud you.
I'm still surprised I did,
but it's happening right now.
And it's,
it is one of those things I tell everyone.
It's like,
I had no experience with,
you know,
talking to guests.
I'm not a radio host.
I have no training in this whatsoever,
but I really wanted to share people's stories,
stories like yours that are so inspirational
that I want people to hear,
especially millennial audiences,
people like me out there
that need some guidance when their finances.
And so I did some research,
and I figured it out, and I did it. And guess what? It's almost been a year. And so I did some research and I figured it out and I did it.
And guess what?
It's almost been a year.
So if I can do it, anyone can do it.
And you're doing great, too.
People are talking about it.
There's a buzz and an atmosphere.
You know, I get a lot of invitations and I can't do them all.
But this one, he said, you've got to do this one.
She is dynamite.
Her show is really getting good numbers.
So, you know, that's because
you did not sit back and wait for things to happen. You were proactive. So I'm encouraging
others to be proactive. Some of you've got goals and dreams that you've been talking about for
years. You want to go back to school. I encourage you to go back, even if you can take one course
at a time. Some of you said, I want to start a business. Well, I'm encouraging you to get started,
even if it's a small, on a small level, so you can get better. You know, some of you have been saying that I really
want to write a book. Well, start one page at a time. Whatever it is, start. Just get started.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step, and you'll be amazed how the second
comes, and the third, and the fourth, and things might happen. Number five, number six is be
creative. Be creative. be creative. Use your
creative juices, use them all, use every gift and every blessing and every ability you have within
your arsenal. Many, many of you have some gifts that you didn't even know you have, or just like
you said, you weren't sure you want to be a radio, uh, interviewer, but you just got a gift about
your personality and sharing your ideas and being
perky and upbeat.
So that is a gift.
And number seven, this is a big one.
Be prayerful.
Now, actually, that's number one.
How do you like that?
But I purposely left it or put it at number seven for a reason. Because I found over the
years, you know, I have a doctorate in theology and a master's in theology. And I found that far
too often people of faith will pray and do nothing else. They'll pray and do nothing else.
They'll pray and do nothing else. But scripture says faith without works is dead.
So you've got to act on your faith.
You've got to act on it. And so that's why I put it at the back.
A lady came up to me one day and she said, I want a job. I said, okay, what are you
doing to get a job? She said, I prayed about it. I said, great. She said, I said, what else? She
said, oh, that's all. I said, that's all? She said, that's all. I'm waiting for God to give it to me.
Well, you know, my friend Wally Amos, the great famous cookie man, famous Amos, he said something
to me when I interviewed him on my XM show. In fact, that's one of the interviews that I get away. I listened to that interview. Isn't that great?
Isn't it amazing? It's great. It's a great interview. Absolutely. So he said,
if you want, he said, most people are waiting for God to drop something in their lap.
He said, I found that if you want God to drop something in your lap,
it's best to put your lap where God is dropping stuff, okay?
So I'm encouraging people all over the country to take action.
Pray and then move your feet.
After you pray, move your feet.
So those are the seven steps. And then in the back of the book, we have ten case studies from people I've interviewed on my XM show, 10 folks who have gone from broke to millionaire or billionaire and how they did it.
I love that.
Life lessons.
So get the book.
In fact, I'm telling everybody who's listening to go get five copies.
Go on my website.
Go to willijolly.com slash greenbacks.
willijolly.com slash greenbacks.
Get five copies.
And if you request, I'll autograph them.
But get five copies.
Get one for you, one for your family member, one for a co-worker, one for a friend,
and then one for somebody you know who's going through a tough time and needs a blessing.
Get five copies and give them to people, and they'll reasonably be priced, and you'll be amazed how not just half you, but how helping others has an impact for your future.
So those are the things I would encourage everybody to do.
I'm excited about the response from people who are emailing saying they love the messaging
and they have been inspired by it.
So that's why I wanted to write it, and I'm glad it's doing well.
Absolutely.
Well, that's amazing, and I'm excited to hear what some of my listeners think about your book,
and I'm excited to go through it myself.
And, yeah, I'm just excited.
This was an amazing interview.
Thank you so much for joining me.
I'm, like, again, pumped and ready to take on the world after talking to you.
Well, you're awesome.
Congratulations on the great job you're doing.
I want to encourage everybody, if you first go to my website and get the free gift,
willijolly.com slash gift. Also get free gift, williejolly.com slash gift.
Also get the book, williejolly.com slash greenbacks.
But also find out where I'm going to be.
I have my schedule on my website.
And if you see the Get Motivated Tour, it's coming to a city near you,
then come and visit and sit in the audience and then come up to me at at the break and when i'm
out taking pictures with folks and let me know you heard the interview here and that you are
excited and i look forward to personally meeting and hugging your neck and talking about the
possibilities fabulous well i hope you come to a city near me i hope so i hope it'll be soon
fabulous well thank you again willie for joining me and I wish you all the best. And I look forward to listening to more of your radio show.
Amen. God bless you. Have a great day on purpose. And remember, as I share with my XM audience every day, your best is yet to come. Remember that. And wasn't that an amazing episode? That was episode 42 of the Mo Money Podcast.
Make sure to check out the show notes.
I'm going to include a lot of links
to do with what
Willie Jolly mentioned throughout the show
that you'll definitely want to check out.
JessicaMorehouse.com slash 42.
I want to thank Willie again for joining me
on the show. He was such a treat to talk to you
and I'm like a
uber fan now. I'm
going to listen to his show every new episode. So thank you so much for joining me. And I hope
you loved this episode. If you did, make sure to leave me an iTunes review. I will give you a shout
out on a future episode and love you forever. Until next Wednesday.