More Money Podcast - 244 How to Support BIPOC Right Now - Jessica Moorhouse, Host of the Mo' Money Podcast

Episode Date: June 4, 2020

Hello wonderful podcast listener! This is my final episode of Season 10 of the Mo’ Money Podcast, and I want to end this season by discussing something very important to me and quite honestly the human race right now. There are global protests both online and offline to fight against the systemic racism that exists in Canada, the U.S., and the rest of the world. It’s 2020, and despite all the progress and innovation we’ve made as a society, racism still exists. Inequality still exists. Injustice still exists. I have been so emotional all week. I’m heartbroken about the innocent lives that have been lost due to police brutality. I’m heartbroken that people of colour have suffered for so long while their white allies (like me) have done nothing to help. Enough is enough. I believe what’s happening right now is a tipping point leading to major change. And I for one want to take action. One of the things I’ve done is made a choice to no longer support FinCon, a financial conference I’ve attended since 2014. You can find more info on my Twitter page, but let’s just say I am an anti-racist and I refuse to support anyone or any institution that does not uphold those basic values. The thing with money is it has everything to do with race. Moreover, money can be used to make positive change and fight against racism. One way I’ve been trying to lend support to the black community and the protests is by donating money to various bail funds, victim funds and Black Lives Matter. I will also never be attending FinCon again and as I’ve just received my refund for that event, I will be redirecting those funds to another cause to help people of colour. Right now isn’t the time to see how things play out or be afraid of not being liked. Right now is the time to speak up and be vocal. It’s time to condemn racism, support people of colour, and not just say you’re an ally, but prove it! For myself, besides donating money, I’m going to continue to educate myself, I’m going to support more BIPOC businesses, and I will be making the next season of my podcast more diverse in terms of guests. It is something I’ve always tried to do, but just looking at the Season 10 line up, I know I can do way better. If you want to take action also, below are some ways you can vote with your dollars, as well as a long list of fantastic BIPOC personal finance influencers to support. Please follow them, consume their content, and amplify their platforms. Their voices need to be heard. Thanks for listening to this episode and supporting me in these 5 years of having the podcast! I’ll be taking a summer hiatus, and will be bringing back the podcast in late August or early September. To stay in the loop, you can follow me on social media or better yet sign up to my email list. I will most likely pop in and do a few special podcast episodes during the summer, but otherwise, I plan on taking this time to focus on a few projects I’ve had on the backburner and make more videos for my YouTube Channel. Thanks again for listening and I’ll catch you back on the podcast soon! For full episode show notes visit https://jessicamoorhouse.com/244 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to episode 244 of the Mo Money Podcast. I'm your host, Jessica Morehouse. Welcome back to my final episode of season 10 of the show. Also, as I mentioned yesterday, we have surpassed five years of the Mo Money Podcast. I know there's lots of you who have been listening since the beginning and oh my gosh, thank you so much. Thank you back to some of those OG episodes. Oh, I kind of shudder. I'm like, wow, I really, I was really green. I really did not know what I was doing. And I think I've improved. I've definitely honed my craft quite a bit since then. So thanks for sticking along for the ride. Or if you're new to the show, thanks for finding me. And I've been getting a lot of amazing messages lately,

people who've just discovered this podcast. And that makes me so happy because that's why I'm still around. And I'm not going to just like, oh, I think I've said everything. It's like, no, no, no, because new people will discover it. And hopefully this will, you know, all the interviews I do, all the shows that I do will help people listening in one way and, you know, with in terms of, you know, improving their financial literacy or answering some questions that they didn't understand and just overall help people because that is the whole point of this show. I just want to help people in my small little way in this world. And this has anything to do with anything, but today is my birthday. So that's something. What am I doing

today? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I'm going to go to Dairy Queen and get myself an ice cream cake because yes, I'm turning 34, but yes, I also want an ice cream cake. So that's what I'm going to be doing. And otherwise, we're still in a state of emergency here in Ontario, so I'm going to be just, you know, staying at home, maybe reading a book, had a birthday during this pandemic, you know how it is. It kind of sucks. It is what it is. But anyways, that's not what the episode is about. I just wanted to tell you because I mean, you know, I just want to tell somebody. Someone's got to know it's my birthday, right? I want to make this episode not about me whatsoever. I want to address what's going on in the world with all the protests with Black Lives Matter and kind of share where my stance is, which all the protests with Black Lives Matter and kind of share where

my stance is, which is obviously I support Black Lives Matter. Obviously, I support the protests. Obviously, I believe we need some change and we need to uplift and support people of color and we need to let their voices be heard. And so I want to not so much talk, again, about me, because this is not about me. This is so not about me. As a white woman, everything's kind of pointing to some amazing resources and also highlighting some amazing voices in the financial space, both in Canada and the US that I don't think get enough attention, quite honestly. So that's what I want to focus on. I also want to address in case you do follow me on Instagram or I don't think I really talked about it on Instagram, but on my Twitter. So I've had this show for five years. And I think throughout the five years, I have mentioned a particular conference that I've been going to, I think for six years on off. I don't go every year, but I think I've gone to a total of four of these conferences. It is called FinCon.

I'm not going to go in depth exactly about what the issue I have with, oh, maybe I will. I just don't want to get sued. Exactly. Essentially, and you can find this on it. You can do a deep dive, find out what's going on on my Twitter and then find some other Twitter threads to find out what's going on. But essentially, it was kind of come to light. Some of the values and actions and behaviors of the founder certainly do not match my own personal values and what I think is okay. And I've been talking to a lot of people in the community. A lot of people are very hurt, angry. A lot of people are conflicted because a lot of us have benefited from going to this conference. I've personally benefited in that.

I've spoken three times at this conference. I didn't get paid, but I still spoke and got that exposure. And I also developed some amazing personal relationships. These are relationships, these are friendships that I've had for so long, for many, many years. Even before I started going to that conference, these are friends that I hold dear and I know we're going to be friends for a long time. And so I've personally benefited from going to this conference. And so finding out some things about how other people's experience, especially most, especially the people of color who've gone to the conference and them not being treated fairly and they have their own personal stories. I just could not continue to support this conference and attend. I'm not going to be attending. I will never attend again. I don't quite honestly care if the founder does kind of fix the issues. That's on him. That is his personal journey

that he needs to go on. But at the end of the day, I need to make choices that are right for me and that I only want to spend money and show my public support for organizations and people and events that align with my own personal values. So that is kind of just a little thing on that. In case you stumbled upon my Twitter and you're like, what was that all about? That's kind of what it is about. So I'm probably never going to mention the conference again, even though I know a lot of people that I will probably have on the show in the future. I've probably met them through this kind of FinCon community. But I just wanted to kind of share that because if you also find

yourself in a situation where you find an organization, a company, an event, people that prior you did, you know, support by, you know, spending money with them or you had, you know, some sort of relationship with them and it's come to light that, you know, they don't support Black Lives Matter. They don't support just, you know, human rights, like basic human rights that we all need to be heard. And we really need to fix this systemic racism. And I'm a Canadian and I've been seeing a lot of crap online, quite honestly, saying, oh, we don't have a racism problem in Canada. Hi, open your eyes. Of course we do. Of course we do. Of course we do. So that's just, I think we'll probably all have some hard choices to make. But in my mind, this is not the time to just be like, well, I'll see how things go. I'll see how things play out. No, no. This is the time

to really show where you stand and where you support. And especially when it comes to money, you need to vote with your dollars. You need to show where your values lie in terms of how you spend your money. And so that's one way I'm going to be doing it. Another way is, of course, I'm donating some money to organizations that will help the Black community. I'm going to share some of those resources with you right now in case you are wondering. Okay. So first, and again, I'm going to talk about how you can support if you're Canadian, you want to support Canadian organizations and also American organizations. Because I know I follow a lot of people on social media, a lot of other people in the personal finance space.

They've been sharing some great resources, but they're all American. And again, we do have a racism issue in Canada. So I want to support Canadian organizations as much as I can. So I'm going to share some of those with you right now. So there are different chapters of Black Lives Matter in Canada. There's the Black Lives Matter Toronto. There's Black Lives Matter in Canada. There's the Black Lives Matter Toronto. There's Black Lives Matter Vancouver. Even though Black Lives Matter did start in the US, there are chapters here in Canada. But outside of the Black Lives Matter movement and different chapters there are, there are a lot of

other great Black organizations that you can lend your financial support or support in another way to. There's the Black Legal Action Center. This is based out of Ontario. It's a nonprofit community legal clinic that provides free legal services for low or no income Black residents of Ontario. There's Black in BC Community Support Fund for COVID-19 as a fundraiser for a low barrier emergency micro grant program for Black people in BC who are experiencing financial hardship due to the COVID-19 pandemic. FYI, because I know I'm going to be sharing a lot of information, you, of course, can find all of this. I'm going to include all these resources in the show notes for this episode, jessicamorehouse.com slash 244. Also, what I'm currently sharing right now, this is a list that I found on a great huffingtonpost.ca article, so I'm just kind of sharing a few of these. There is the NIA Center for the Arts.

It's Canada's first Black art center committed to fostering and promoting Black identity and community in Toronto through art, which is awesome. I'll just share a few more. There's Black Space Winnipeg. It's a grassroots organization that looks to spread perspectives of Afrocentrism and pro-Black conversation. Black Space Winnipeg creates safe spaces for people of color through hosting community events, artists, demonstrations, and workshops. There's Black Liberation Collective, which is throughout various universities. So the Black Liberation Collectives are an international movement of students challenging anti-Black racism in post-secondary institutions. And it began in Canada at Ryerson and the University of Toronto in 2015, which is pretty

cool. There's also the Black Health Alliance as a community-led charity looking to reduce the racial disparities in health, access, and care in Canada, focusing on the broad determinants of health, including racism. And I'll just mention one more, Black Women in Motion. This is an organization based out of Toronto. It supports the advancement of Black women in Toronto through educational tools, economic opportunities, and cultural content. Moreover, there are a few GoFundMe pages that you may want to look into to lend your financial support to. There is

one for the Toronto Protester Bail Fund. So this was a fundraiser set up basically in light of the recent protest in Toronto. soon. They want to make sure that if anyone does get arrested, that they are not left without legal counsel or bail funds or any kind of financial support. So you can look into that. Moreover, there's also a GoFundMe for justice for Regis. If you haven't already read this in the news, on May 27th, Regis Korchinski-Packett, she tragically lost her life. And she was a resident basically of my neighborhood. She lived just a few blocks away from me. So it really kind of hit home for me that this could happen to anybody. It could happen to anywhere.

It could happen right in your own neighborhood. And of course, there's still an ongoing investigation of what exactly happened, but part of the big reason why there were the Toronto protests was because they wanted justice for Regis and they wanted an actual real investigation into what happened. So things like this don't happen again. A young black woman does not lose her life because of police involvement, basically. So you can look on that. That is also on GoFundMe. There are also a few amazing, like, one of the Google Docs that people have shared that have a list of different resources they've shared in my Facebook group. So if you're not already in my Facebook group, please join. You can just go to facebook.com slash groups slash money life balance to get in there.

But there's a couple of things I posted. I started kind of the conversation by sharing this one link that my husband actually shared with me that he found from a friend. And it's blacklivesmatters.card, but that's C-A-R-R-D dot co. And it's basically a link to a bunch of different links to different resources. So it has resources for if you want to sign a petition, if you want to donate funds, if you want to support the protesters specifically. There's also sections for Canada or Australia specifically. There's a lot of great, great stuff on that link. So definitely check that out. Again, to reiterate,

blacklivesmatters.carrd.co. Again, it links to so many great resources. For instance, it has a full list of, you know, if you want to support directly to the victims' families, it has all the links to, you know, the George Floyd Memorial Fund, Breonna Taylor Fund, Jamie Johnson Fund. The list, sadly, goes on and on and on because there's quite a few victims. And on that, if you want to support the protesters specifically, it also has links to different bail funds and protesters in need funds. So definitely take a look at all of that. Now, beyond giving financial support, and I also realize we are,

we're still in a pandemic and a lot of us are still feeling the crunch, the financial crunch, and a lot of us don't have the money to donate to a cause right now, but we still want to help in some way. So one way you can do that is by, again, amplifying, promoting, highlighting people of color voices in any way. So one way you can do that is by, again, amplifying, promoting, highlighting people of color voices in any way you can. Now, I want to kind of hone in on the

financial space, personal finance, because, you know, it is very white. It's very white. Just doing a quick kind of Google search of like personal finance, content creators, you know, people of color in Canada. I know I did lots of variations of that Google. Honestly, I just had a bunch of different lists of bloggers, content creators that were all pretty much white. And so I reached out to my friend Sandile Chauhanza. I met her a number of years ago. I want to say maybe three years ago. She came to one of my library events where I didn't know if anyone would come because if you've ever spoken or been to one of those free library events, sometimes it's like packed and sometimes there's three people that show up. And she came because I think she listened

to my podcast or followed me on social media. And so she came and she was so lovely. And she said she wanted to start a side hustle and do was so lovely. And she said she wanted to start a side hustle and do something more in the personal finance space. And cut to now, she is a personal finance journalist and financial wellness mentor. She writes all the time for lowestrates.ca. And she has an amazing, amazing Twitter and Instagram feed. You can follow her at Zah Knows. So Z-A Knows, like K-N-O-W-S, Zah Knows. Anyways, I emailed her. I'm like, hey, do you have any recommendations or a list of people of color in the financial space specific to Canada that you can share with me? And luckily she came through with an amazing list, which just goes to show how there are people of color that are doing

amazing things in the personal finance space in Canada. They're just not getting any attention because I couldn't freaking find them when doing some Google searches and searching on Twitter. So trying to rectify that now by giving them some love and sharing them so you can follow them as well. So in no particular order, here are some people that you may want to start following and consuming their content or getting financial help from. There is Cassandra DeSant. I just started following her actually the other day on Twitter. She is amazing. She's a financial wellness engineer. You can follow her on Twitter and Instagram. Cassandra DeSant is how you, I don't know if that's how you pronounce her last

name. Sometimes if I don't know how to pronounce things, I just pronounce it like kind of French, like Desant, but I don't know. And it was, it's K-A-S-S-A-N-D-R-A. Last name is D-A-S-E-N-T, Desant. Anyways, you can also find her on our website, CassandraDesant.com. Again, I'm going to be listing all of these on the show notes, JessicaMoorhouse.com. So it's 244. There is Keisha Blair, who was recently on the podcast, and she came out with a book recently called Holistic Wealth. She also just started her own YouTube channel. So it's under her name, Keisha Blair. So make sure to subscribe and start watching her, you know, videos and also grab a copy of her book.

Another blogger you should definitely check out, though. If you read a lot of personal finance blogs, you've probably already stumbled on his blog. I do all the time. He's always in my search rankings when I'm Googling anything about personal finance. I'm talking about Enoch Omololu. He is the founder of Savvy New Canadians. You can find that at SavvyNewCanadians.com. He started his blog in November 2016, and he's just been killing it, creating so much helpful content.

So make sure to check him out, SavvyNewCanadians.com. We've also got Vanessa Bowen. She's the founder of Mintworthy. You can find that at Mintworthy.co. She is a money and mindset coach, And you can also follow her on Instagram at mint worthy co is where you can find her. We've also got Jackie Porter. She is a CFP, a financial advisor. You can find her at askjackie.ca. And she is on Twitter at askjackieporter. And on Instagram, she's I am Jackie Porter. And Jackie is J-A-C-K-I-E. I

think that's the normal spelling of Jackie. I don't know why I said that. You'd probably figure that out yourself. And Porter is like you'd say it's Porter, P-O-R-T-E-R. We've also got Nichelle Barley. She's the founder of Money Basics. You can find that at moneybasics.ca. And she's a financial strategist. And you can also follow her on Instagram at Money Basics. You can find that at moneybasics.ca and she's a financial strategist. And you can also follow her on Instagram at moneybasics. We've also got Nicole Simmons. She's a financial literacy advocate. She's a wealth management advisor, insurance broker, and part owner of CPN Financial Services. You can follow her on Instagram at advisoronthego. And last but not least, we have Octavia Ramirez. She's the founder and CEO of Paper and Coin, which is a paper magazine and also an online magazine.

There's a blog, there's money coaching service, they do webinars, they have digital resources, they have a bunch of financial content on there. You can follow her specifically on Twitter at Octavia Faith. You can also just go to paperandcoin.com to learn more. And you can follow at Paper and Coin on Twitter and Instagram as well. Now, in terms of the US, there are actually a ton of amazing people based in the US that are financial bloggers or speakers, YouTubers, content creators. I found one really great resource that I will link in the show notes. It's from mymoneychronicles.com. There's a list of, was it 90 plus African American personal finance bloggers and influencers. A lot. And I'm sure he's updating it all the time. Now I'm not going to list all 90 people on here because it would take me too long. So make sure to just check

out the show notes. I'll have a link to the resource that I mentioned that has the full list of them. But I just kind of want to give some shout outs to a few that are maybe my particular favorites or you may want to check them out. For instance, I've got my friend Michelle Jackson. She has been on the show before on this podcast. Her brand is Michelle Is Money Hungry. She recently did a really great blog post on her website. Michelle is money hungry.com. Michelle is money hungry.com. Uh, it's a candid conversation about race in America and a highly recommend that you, uh, read. She also, uh, did a podcast, uh, for that specifically. So you can also listen to her. Um, I'd say definitely check that out. There's also his and her money, Talat and Ty McNeely. I've had them on the podcast as her. I'd say definitely check that out. There's also His and Her Money, Talat and Ty

McNeely. I've had them on the podcast as well. I love, I just love them. I just love these two. They have an amazing YouTube channel and podcast. They're great speakers. I've seen them speak. They're just two of my favorite people. So make sure to check them out. Candice Latham, she was a friend that I made a few years ago when I went to this event called Statement that my friend Stephanie O'Connell started with Emma Patti, which is such a great event all about women, empowerment, and finance. We all kind of know each other through the financial scape. So she is a full-time entrepreneur and designer, and she's wonderful. I really enjoy it. She also has a YouTube channel. I follow her on Instagram, so you can find her. Candice and designer, and she's wonderful. I really enjoy it. She also has a YouTube channel.

I follow her on Instagram, so you can find her. Candice Latham. She's amazing. Of course, I also have to mention that My Money Chronicles, who created this amazing list, Jason Butler. He originally started his blog under the name The Butler Journal, then changed it to My Money Chronicles. And I now follow him on Twitter.

He's got some great stuff. So you can find him at mymoneychronicles.com or follow him on Twitter at money underscore chronicle. We've also got Patrice Washington. I remember seeing her speak before and she was incredible. Her talk was so emotional about how she really turned her life around and just how personal finances really impacted her and now how she wants to impact other people. She's a very well-known personal finance expert. She's been on a ton of major shows like The Steve Harvey Show and Dr. Oz, and she has a ton of books.

So make sure to check her out, Patrice Washington. There's also someone I've been a huge fan of for years. I've seen her speak. She's huge on social media. She is a huge, huge audience. I'm talking about Tiffany, the Budgetnista. She's an award-winning personal finance educator. You can find her at the Budgetnista. She's been on pretty much all the shows, like all the major TV shows. She's a powerhouse. She has books. She has a huge, amazing, thriving online community where she helps people empower themselves through personal finance. So definitely check her out. Follow her on Instagram and Twitter. And if you're looking for a few podcasts, these are two that I follow quite a bit. Journey to Launch. Jamila is the creator of this. It's a

blog and a podcast. Her podcast is huge. It has a ton of listens. Again, it's called Journey to Launch. Now, if you're looking for other podcasts, there's actually some really great podcasts I've been a fan of for a long time. One that I love, and it's huge now, it's gotten so popular, is called Journey to Launch. Jamila Soufrant created journeytolaunch.com. And it is a blog. It is also a very popular podcast, as I mentioned. So you can find that at journeytolaunch.com or just find the podcast wherever you're listening this podcast. It will be in that same directory. Another great and very popular podcast is called Popcorn Finance. It's by Chris Browning. And you can find more information about

it on popcornfinance.com. I also follow Popcorn Finance on Instagram and really like it. He is an analyst by day, podcaster by night. And not only does he have Popcorn Finance, he also has another podcast called This is Awkward, which is co-hosted by Allison Bakerly of Inspired Budget. So he's a busy podcaster. He's doing two podcasts. So, yeah, he's amazing. Make sure to follow Chris. All right.

So there's a ton of others. Of course, I'm going to tell you, just check the show notes. I will have all of them list all these really great handy resources. And then you can start following them on social media, listening to their podcasts, reading their blogs, checking out their YouTube channels. And then you can do the next step, which is not only consume their content, but share their content with your friends, family, your own audience. So more people can know about these amazing content creators, influencers, and experts out there who are doing some amazing, amazing work. And for me, because unfortunately, I didn't know about all these amazing people of color who were doing such amazing stuff in the personal finance space. That is my own ignorance.

I will completely put my hands up and say that. I'm going to do better as well with this podcast and do better in terms of making sure that I have a very diverse selection of guests. I do try my best because I am an ally. And so I am always very cognizant and always try to think like, I want to make sure it's not just too much men or too many women. I want to have a good balance. But I also need to do the same and make sure it's not just a bunch of white people because we need to hear various voices because everyone has such a different perspective, different background, and can add so much to the conversation when we're talking about money. So I am going to focus more on that for my next season. Of course, hit me up if I've mentioned some people. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew those people. Have you thought about this

person? If you know of any other people in this space that I should get to know that I should have on this show, you let me know, you let me know, you DM me, you email me, Jessica at Jessica Morehouse.com. Let me know. Because again, I want to do, um, what I can and to promote these voices and these stories and these amazing, uh, people on my own platform, which, uh, which I can do. So let me know.

Uh, but I'm of course going to be spending the summer doing a ton of research and, uh, uh, hitting up some, uh, of these people that I mentioned on the show that haven't been on it, like that I mentioned on this episode,

but haven't had on the show. I don't know why. Um, so, uh, I'm excited for that coming up in, uh, I guess I'm going to probably start season 11 of

this podcast. Oh, goodness. Maybe late August, maybe September. Really depends. We'll have to see. I have no idea what is going to happen the next few months. So it's very difficult. And I'm sure you understand, too, because you're living your life, too. It is so hard to plan for the future, even if it's just a few months away with everything going on, because it does kind of seem like the world is collapsing. Personally, because I am an optimistic person, I hope that what's going on right now is basically a tipping point and we will start to see some big changes. Personally, I know we still have a long way to go when it comes to the Me Too movement, but I feel like all that terrible stuff that happened, I have seen some positive change. We still have a lot more to do, but we

did see some positive change that came out of it, which is great. So I'm hoping this is the same thing. This is a tipping point and progress will happen. Big change will happen, but it's not going to happen overnight. It's going to take decades and generations, let's be honest. But I'm hoping this is the first real big thing that's going to make some big shifts in this world that I'm looking at as a positive, hopefully. But I know there's also a lot of people struggling and hurting, and this is a really difficult time. So I also want to be sensitive to that.

So yeah. So that is it for me, really. It's all I kind of wanted to share. I wanted to kind of share some resources and some amazing people that we can all start taking a look at what they're saying and their content and amplifying them because they deserve it and we need more diverse people in this space, especially when it comes to personal finance. Specifically, as someone who is a woman, I've really appreciated that there are more people from different backgrounds participating and

starting blogs and starting podcasts and YouTube channels because we want to be more inclusive. It's not fun just seeing the same type of people creating the same type of content. There's space for everybody and we need to support everybody. So anyways, I hope this episode has been helpful, informative. And although I'm going to be taking a little bit of a break from the podcast, as I mentioned in yesterday's episode, I'll probably pop back in and do a few other episodes, especially just as things change with what's going on with the whole Black Lives Matter movement and all the protests as the pandemic evolves. As things evolve in a world, I'll probably want to do an episode to kind of talk about it, address it, and share some information that might be helpful. So it's not goodbye for several months.

It's probably just like see you a little bit later. Just need a little bit of a break. But to stay in touch, make sure to first get onto my email list, jessicamorehouse.com slash subscribe. Follow me on Twitter. It's J-E-S-S-I underscore Morehouse. You can also follow the Mo Money Podcast specifically on Twitter, It's J-E-S-S-I underscore Morehouse. You can also follow the Mo Money Podcast specifically on Twitter at Mo Money Podcast. I think I've sent out one tweet because

I forgot I made the account. I'll be honest. Forgot I made it like several years ago. So I am going to be actually spending the summer to actually just tweet out past episodes and other information about the podcast. I am also on Instagram at jessicamorehouse. And I also created an Instagram for the Mo Money Podcast specifically at Mo Money Podcast. So make sure to follow that. And of course, I'm going to be creating more content on my website, jessicamorehouse.com and more videos on my YouTube channel just under my name, Jessica Morehouse. Also, if you just want to listen to my episodes on YouTube, because I know a lot of other people do, I have a specific

YouTube channel that has all of the episodes. I'm no longer going to be publishing Mo Money Podcast episodes on my person or my Jessica Morehouse YouTube channel. I'm just going to leave that just for straight up videos, not episodes. So I have a specific, if you just Google Mo Money Podcast in YouTube, you will find the specific YouTube channel where it has all those podcasts. Okay. I think we're good. Did we cover everything? I think we covered everything. So again, I want to say thanks so much for listening to this, I'd say, important episode. Thanks so much for supporting the Mo Money uh, especially all these five years.

I really, really appreciate it. I want you all to stay safe. I want you all to, um, really think about how can you make the world a better place? How can you support the people we need to support people of color, especially during this time with either your, your actions, with your time, uh, with your, you know, social media, uh, to, or your dollars. What can you do right now? Because if we all do something, it will have a major, major impact on the world. So I just want to kind of leave it there on hopefully a positive note. Thanks again

for listening. I will check you back here later when, I don't know. I'm sure I'll see you soon during the summer. But until then, have a good rest of your day, rest of the week, rest of the summer. This podcast is distributed by the Women in Media Podcast Network. Find out more at womeninmedia.network.