Morning Joe - Bon Appétit's 2026 best new restaurants

Episode Date: August 24, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Why does it feel like today Mark Carney is going to war? Trade war. The tone. Because we're attacked. Like you're at war when you get attacked. We got attacked. The U.S. put 50%. We waited until the United States decided to actually implement the so-called 338 tariffs.
Starting point is 00:00:22 That's fine. We've got the reserves. We've got the resilience. We've got the plan. We've got the focus. We respond. We're going to focus on what we can control. We're going to build.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney taking a defiant tone over the weekend after pulling negotiators from trade talks in Washington. That is one of two areas where some Republicans are breaking with the president. The other? His plan to import tons of ground beef amid record high prices, a move that is also being criticized by American ranchers and beef producers. Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson is set to announce sanctions on Iran that he's calling Economic D-Day for the country. It comes as some of Iran's top politicians are pushing back against Tehran's hardliners,
Starting point is 00:01:18 calling for an end to the war. Good morning. And welcome to morning, Joe. It is Monday, August 24th. With us, we have the co-host of our 8 a.m. hour staff writer at the Atlantic. Jonathan Lemire. Co-host of the Rest is Politics podcast, the BBC's Caddy K. MS now, National Affairs analyst John Heilman, he is partner and chief political columnist at Puck, opinion columnist for the New York Times, David French, and columnist and member of the editorial board at the Financial Times, Jillian Tet.
Starting point is 00:01:54 So amid record low polling, and we're talking record low, a new projection shows press, President Trump's net approval rating is negative in 47 out of 50 states. That is, according to the economist and you gov, Trump's net approval is minus 26. Going state by state, the data shows widespread dissatisfaction with Trump, even in places that voted for him in 2024. Ahead of the midterms, Trump has a negative net approval rating in all of the states where there are competitive Senate. races this year. In Georgia, Trump's net approval is negative 31. In North Carolina, it's negative 25. In Maine, Trump's net approval is negative 31. In Texas, it is negative 22. And in Michigan, Trump's net approval is negative 27. So Jonathan Lemire, I'm curious. It almost feels like Trump and his
Starting point is 00:02:59 administration is going in one direction and the will of the American people, the needs of the American people, the needs of our alliances around the world, they're headed in a completely different directions. It seems like he doesn't care about these numbers. Am I wrong? Well, Mika, my expert analysis on that polling is it's real bad. None of this is working for the president right now. That's why we have Republicans, you know, really worried about this November. Many privately concede the House. House all but gone. The Senate feels like a true toss-up when a year ago at this time, we would have said Republicans were heavily favored to keep at least the upper chamber, despite, of course,
Starting point is 00:03:39 history telling us that the president, you know, his party tends to do poorly in midterms. But you're right, me taking through some of the issues here. The tariffs have been unpopular, and now we're at a trade war, renewed trade war with Canada. The Iran War, deeply unpopular, never sold by the president to the American people. All it has done is send prices soaring, particularly at the gas pump. And they've settled into a plan of economic pressure. Maybe that will work. And we are seeing some disagreement in Tehran as to how they want to approach the conflict. But even if this does work, it's probably going to be a long time too late to save Republicans, perhaps, for this midterms. And we're seeing, of course, as we'll get into it a little
Starting point is 00:04:21 bit later, even the president's efforts to try to lower beef prices, a lot of Republicans pushing back saying, you know, none of this is working right now. And just, John Heilman, it seems like, to meek his point, the president largely detached from a lot of this. To Heilman, you know, this is someone who has, you know, seems to be focused solely on legacy, whether that's presiding over a number of America 250 events, including the Formula One race over the weekend, John Howman. And, of course, we seem to have lost John Hyman.
Starting point is 00:04:53 We'll get him back in a moment. So we'll go to David French here instead. David French, if we have you, you know, we have, you have. The president is focused on America 250 events. He's focused on things where he's trying to reshape physically Washington, D.C. And we saw the celebrations out of the White House because of the Supreme Court ruling at the end of last week that they could keep building the ballroom. And I even thought to myself like, okay, that's the first quote good news headline that President Trump has received in a while. And yet even that good news headline for him is not good for the American people.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We see polling that this just reinforces the idea that the public is like, well, wait, he's out of touch. He only cares about what he cares about, not what actually impacts our lives. Yeah, the ballroom is not a political victory for Donald Trump. Every day the ballroom is in the news is a bad day for Trump. This is not something the American people really want at all. You know, when you're running through that, the thing that just strikes me, when you're running through all of the events that have occurred that are dragging down as approval writing, It strikes me how just intentionally self-inflicted all of this damage is. He comes into office.
Starting point is 00:06:03 He inherits a border that was the American people ready for him to close. He inherits an improving economy, and he inherits a declining inflation rate. He inherits declining crime rates. He was set for really smooth sailing for the next year, the next two years. And then he has provoked trade wars. He is initiated in actual war in the Middle East. You're beginning to get a sense that the world itself is spiraling out of control. You have expanding conflicts in Europe.
Starting point is 00:06:34 The conflicts in Europe and Iran are starting to merge in some ways. And then this trade, every new headline, it's a new self-inflicted wound. This trade war with Canada due to remarkable overreach in trade negotiations. It is sinking into the American people that this is self-inflicted. None of this is necessary. None of this is for them. Yeah. And you know, the thing is, look at the last two weeks of columns from Peggy Noon. And last week, she talked about how he was bored, that boredom is not a good trait for a president to have that trouble comes. Trouble finds you when you're president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Here Donald Trump goes out looking for trouble because he's bored. This week's column, she talks about, well, another thing that is going to, again, dragging these numbers down, the level of corruption is unprecedented. You heard Democrats being attacked nonstop. It really is such a joke. It's such a joke. What Trump Republicans have been saying over the past decade about Hunter Biden, what they've been saying about corruption, what they've been saying about Nancy Pelosi. Donald Trump executed more trades for more money in his first year back. Then Nancy Pelosi's husband, not Nancy Pelosi yourself, Nancy Pelosi's husband who's in the business traded throughout her entire congressional career.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And so that corruption is Peggy Noonan says corruption is another thing that is dragging down the approval ratings of a president who, last week, she said, was bored. So let's read from Peggy Noonan's latest column in the Wall Street Journal entitled The Art of the Self-Deal. She writes in part this. I'm thinking about the deeper effects of governmental
Starting point is 00:08:33 corruption in the Trump era and why it leaves many not only indignant, but uneasy. I suspect it's doing something to us as a people. The thoughts were prompted by a poll this week from Reuters-Zipsov, which Reuters headlined
Starting point is 00:08:49 And most Americans believe Trump has inappropriately profited since returning to power. It reported that 69% of respondents see his personal business interests as influencing presidential decisions. Two-thirds of independence, half of Republicans, and nine and ten Democrats shared that view. I love this line. Republicans, God bless them. They were split on whether grafted under Mr. Trump. has gotten worse or better our states. And really? Really? You really?
Starting point is 00:09:21 You're split on that? Yeah. Are you that confused? Peggy goes on to say, which makes that polling question, a case study and how bright people are capable of just not seeing what they don't want to see. That is an important line there as well. An odd thing about all of this is the absence of furor. There is no broad public outcry.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Why? Because corruption is a constant, and the other side is dirty, too, because the scandal threshold has skyrocketed. President Trump walked into history dragging a long tale of litigation, accusation, and lawsuits behind him. He never sold himself as a man of moral rectitude, and most supporters didn't think that's what they were buying. Jimmy Carter's shaking down the system to see what coins fall out would have been news. Donald Trump's doing the same is Tuesday. And there's the sheer scale. The extraordinary becomes ordinary through repetition. Scandals add up and become a blur, not a call to action.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But the country pays a cost for all of this. Institutionally, everything happening today sets a precedent. Every abuse we accept widens when the range of possible misbehavior for the next administration. So what I've been saying for years to Republicans, what you accept today is going to be visited upon you from Democrats or an independent tech billionaire who becomes president of the United States. And they're going to point at your silence, your acquiescence to this corruption and do all the other chaos. going on and saying, well, you're okay when Donald Trump did it. Right. So the president's been set, Gillian, but Peggy, it's Peggy writes, if Jimmy Carter had done
Starting point is 00:11:25 one thousandth of this, it would be a national scandal and Jimmy Carter would have been driven from office for Donald Trump. Well, voters expected him to be corrupt and he's not letting them down. Well, there's a fantastic phrase to describe this, which is the normalization of deviance. And that came from a sociologist Diane Vaughn when she was studying the Challenger shuttle disaster. And she pointed out that actually when you get really bad stuff happening by a government or an institution, it's not usually a case that people go from naught to 60, from white to black overnight. What happens is the institution starts to see little slippages and standards over and over and over again,
Starting point is 00:12:09 until slowly the boundary of what is normal begins to change. And that's in a sense what happened with the Challenger crisis disaster when basically engineers ignored little slippages in some of their safety standards. And it's what's happening in Washington today because bit by bit by bit, as Peggy writes, people are getting used to this. And what's striking is not just the fact they're getting used to it in terms of inside America, I'm American and British, but also on the world stage now, There's this kind of collective eye roll and shrug amongst other governments, and they're just starting to assume that Washington is a bit corrupt.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And that's a real tragedy in every sense. It really is. And, Katty, I want to get you to weigh in as well as Gillian on those numbers, Donald Trump's low numbers. As Peggy wrote last week, being president of the United States is tough enough as it is. Being leader of any Western country right now economically is tough enough. You look at the U.K., you look at France, you look at some historically low approval ratings, and it's been that way for the past five, six, seven years across Europe and across the United States. But then you had all of the other chaos, all of the other corruption, all of the other cruelty, all these other things that drives those numbers down.
Starting point is 00:13:32 But talk about the low approval ratings that Donald Trump's experiencing across America. and apply that to Europe and talk about how European politicians are facing the same economic challenges. Yeah, you're right, Joe. It's pretty much a worldwide phenomenon. It's very hard for democratically elected leaders at the moment to have high approval ratings, whether that's social media, whether it's tribalism, whatever it is. The one place, by the way, that's an exception, Canada. Mark Carney at the moment has an approval rating of 66%, which is kind of approval rating that most politicians in America or in Europe would die from. for at the moment. I think, you know, Gillian, when you look at that U-Gov economist polling, though, and showing just how bad it is for him, particularly in those swing states, Texas, Michigan, Maine, he's underwater in all of those. And given the experience of politicians in Europe, who have been facing those kind of bad approval ratings, it's hard, isn't it, to see how this
Starting point is 00:14:29 goes well for Republicans in the midterm elections? Absolutely. And the question I think many people are asking now is, firstly, given the extremely negative approval ratings, will the Republicans around Trump become increasingly desperate and try and either manipulate or block or pervert the elections? Because, you know, people inside Trump's entourage understand very clearly, and I've spoken to some of them, the legal risk for them, if they lose. So one of the questions people are asking is perversely, the worst ratings get for President Trump, the higher the risks that, or the greater the concern that we may not actually have normal elections. And of course, the other issue is that if indeed the Democrats do have a clean sweep or a dramatic victory in the midterms, are you going to just
Starting point is 00:15:17 get more gridlock? And is that going to essentially leave the voters even more negative about Democrats for the 28 elections because they'll actually see that even when Democrats win, nothing changes. And that would lead to a real sense of even deeper disenchantment among voters with the establishment and institutions in general. Coming up, Canada suspends trade talks with the United States just hours before a new round of tariffs were set to go into effect. We'll have the latest on that escalating trade war. You're watching morning Joe. We'll be right back. The United States and Canada have fallen deeper into a trade war after failed negotiations last week. Now the U.S. is implementing 50% tariffs on 20 billion.
Starting point is 00:16:29 million dollars worth of Canadian goods. The original deadline for a deal was last Wednesday, but that was extended three days after President Trump said negotiations were going well. But on Saturday, both sides blamed one another for a collapse in discussions. Trump's tariffs will now impact about 5% of everything. Canada ships to the U.S. each year, while Canada has promised to start retaliatory penalties on September 8th. In a 22-minute speech on Saturday morning, Prime Minister Mark Carney said the U.S. asked for too much and offered too little. It's a power play. It's a power play and becomes a question of sovereignty. There's a host of other things where absolutely we want to work together. But when it moves into restructural,
Starting point is 00:17:24 restrictions and using Canada effectively as more leverage for America. I mean, clearly, Canadians wouldn't accept that. We're proud independent country. We've got the right values. We'll make our decisions about who we want to trade with and how, and including on how we work with the United States and other partners. You know, I mean, you want to know why he has high approval ratings? That's why he has high approval ratings.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Donald Trump is giving him high approval ratings while Donald Trump's unapproval ratings and support among his, well, defenders, like the Wall Street Journal editorial page, going down. Put that back up again. John Heilman, the Wall Street Journal editorial page this morning has a blistering editorial saying, hey, you remember when we called his last trade war with Mexico and Canada, the dumbest trade war in American history? No, no, no. We were wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:32 We were wrong. This is the dumbest trade war in American history. And if you look, not just at how stupid this trade war is right now and how much more powerful it makes, Mark Carney and has a Canadians like rallying around the flag. But you look at America's political setup going into the fall. We all know that in Maine, Susan Collins is a survivor. She won last time by nine points the same day that Joe Biden beat Donald Trump by nine points in Maine. She's a survivor.
Starting point is 00:19:15 But what does she had to deal with? Trump has sent ice up to Maine. There's been a young man who was gunned down and killed in the streets of Maine for no legitimate reason, no body cameras on the thug that shot that young father and husband. And now you have Susan Collins begging Donald Trump. Please do not start another trade war. Because if you start another trade war with Canada, It's going to cause inflation to spike even more in Maine.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And yet, here we go with what the Wall Street Journal calls the dumbest trade war ever. Right. Well, as you guys know, there's been a lot of competition for the dumbest trade war ever. There's been a lot of competition for the dumbest trade war ever just in the last 18 months. And I'm with the Wall Street Journal. This is the dumbest one. And Susan Collins certainly got to agree. if you happen to live in a state, and there are a few in this election cycle that have a border with Canada, where there's no good done for Susan Collins in being in a war with Nova Scotia
Starting point is 00:20:34 or New Brunswick. It's just like, this is a bad situation for her. And Joe, I think that the Carney thing is important beyond even this election cycle. I think, you know, what you you've seen is Mark Carney since that speech in Davos now more than a year ago. He's become, in a lot of ways, the voice of the civilized Western world in kind of standing up to Donald Trump and in articulating a kind of dignified but tough response to Trump. And I think there are going to be a fair number of 28 Democratic challengers to Donald Trump who are going to be studying the Mark Carney example, because this has not, this has been obviously a huge political boon to him in his own country, a boon to him around the world.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And he's found a way to be resolute, but also kind of, as they say, dignified, civilized, and to push back without seeming hyperbolic. And I think there's a lot, again, I think there's going to be a lot of lessons to be learned from how Carney has handled this. and the way in which it has massively increased his standing politically in his own country and around the world. Like I say, there's something there for a lot of Democrats to learn from. Coming up, we'll take a bite out of this year's best new restaurants list from Bon Appetit. The magazine's editor-in-chief joins us straight ahead on Morning Joe.
Starting point is 00:22:02 We'll be right back. It's time now for a look at the morning papers. Nearly 90,000 people are being urged to evacuate outside Reno, Nevada, after a dangerous. fire broke out over the weekend. As of yesterday morning, the blaze was zero percent contained, and at least six people, including three first responders, had been injured. The flames have already burned more than 15,000 acres. The Arizona Republic notes the state has one of the lowest levels of kindergarten vaccination coverage in the entire country. Arizona ranks 44th among the 48 states submitting the data, just 87.4% of Arizona kindergartners are up to date on their
Starting point is 00:23:08 MMR vaccine. And from the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Georgia's public universities can now offer a college degree in just three years for certain majors instead of the traditional four. Supporters of the change say three-year bachelor's programs would be more cost-effective for students, and allow them to enter the workforce faster. And we'll be right back with much more Morning Joe. Welcome back to Morning Joe, Jillian Tet. Your latest piece for the Financial Times is titled, Who Counts in Trump's America?
Starting point is 00:23:57 And you write in part this. On the afternoon of August 2nd, the Trump team delivered a bombshell that is highly political ahead of this year's midterm elections and amid wider fights about gerrymandering and Trump's insistence that the 2020 election was rigged, they explained that when America holds its next census in 2030, technical reforms will make it hard to publish the data about race and gender.
Starting point is 00:24:27 These statisticians were shocked since they, not politicians, usually handle technical reforms. Worrying about the state of America's statistics might not seem that urgent, given all the other explosive political rows swirling in Washington. But voters should pay attention. For at the heart of this story, there are three key questions. Can anyone paint an accurate portrait of what America is today? If so, how should this shape voting processes?
Starting point is 00:24:59 And can this data be trusted in an era of manipulation, cyberhacks, and artificial intelligence? So, Gillian, tell us how the Trump administration right now is making it harder in 2030 to figure out exactly who is an American, what the racial makeup of America is, and tell us how this may impact future elections. Well, thank you. I mean, the census is a classic example of something linked to infrastructure, which seems incredibly boring. everyone ignores most of the time because it's basically geeky and a bit nerdy. But in reality, it's crucial because it doesn't just shape how we measure the economy, which businesses and investors rely on. It also has a huge impact on the political system because it shapes how seats are essentially allocated. And what's fascinating is that although 99.9% of voters just ignore it,
Starting point is 00:26:01 Republicans have noticed that it's potentially got a lot of importance and they are essentially mounting a very quiet campaign to reshape how the census is done in two ways. Firstly, to add a question about citizenship to the 2030 census, which many people would argue unconstitutional because the constitution says you have to count everybody irrespective status. And secondly, they're trying to change from the technical ways that privacy protections are put into the census that effectively mean it's going to be almost impossible to publish detailed data on race or gender or even much detailed data on minorities in small communities at all. Now, they're saying they're doing that to protect people's privacy, but many of the
Starting point is 00:26:54 community activist groups are really upset because they are, you essentially what's happening is you're blurring a picture of what America is. And that's got all kinds of implications for how we imagine politics going forward. Most notably, that it'll be harder to measure impacts of policies around things like race and gender. No doubt about it. It's an obvious real impact the congressional redistricting over the next decade. Columnist at the Financial Times, Jillian Ted, as always, thank you so much. You know, David Fran. years ago, Steve Bannon said he was a Leninist. And he and Trump were going to go in and they were going to tear down the state.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Take it to the ground. You look at what Gillian said they're doing with the census. One of the most basic should be non-controversial things ever. They're trying to rig that, it seems. What they're doing with the post office, using the post office to do unconstitutional things with the midterm elections, taking it from the state's power and giving it to the executive branch, which is not in the constitution. It's unconstitutional. You see what's happened at the DOD. You see what's happened at the Justice Department. You see what's happened at the national
Starting point is 00:28:17 institutes of all of these, all of these institutions that have been built up to protect Americans and to extend American power and safety across the globe. being torn down brick by brick piece by piece by this Trump administration. And the question people have is, are we going to survive? Are we going to be able to rebuild this two years from now? You know, I wouldn't call it tearing down the state so much as personalizing the state. All elements of the state are being put in the service of the person Donald Trump, being pulled from their primary purposes, being pulled from their primary areas of competence,
Starting point is 00:28:57 being remade from the inside out to serve Donald Trump. And this is core to his authoritarian project. I mean, look, we have to understand, and he looks at a Xi Jinping out there. He looks at a Vladimir Putin out there. And he sees peers with whom he envies in some ways. He envies their autonomy. He envies their authority. And as we've seen with the Canadian trade wars, he envies their spheres of influence.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And so he is directing everything in on himself. And this is inherently corrupt. People can see that it's inherently corrupt. And when they're struggling economically or they're dissatisfied economically or they see all of these self-inflicted wounds that are focused in on Trump and not for their benefit, they get angry. And you're beginning to see rumblings here in this country that remind me a bit of the popular revulsion ultimately at Victor Orban in Hungary. authoritarianism does not sell especially, especially when people feel insecure financially. Opinion calmness for the New York Times, David French. Thank you very much. And we'll be right back with much more morning Joe. Welcome back this morning. Bon Appetit is out with its annual list of best new restaurants created by its editors and culinary experts.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Earning a spot on the famed list does not just provide bragging rights. It also motivates some traction. to build entire trips around booking reservations at these now recognized dining hotspots. Joining us now, the editor-in-chief of Bon Appetit, Jamila Robinson. So great to see you, Jamila. We're so excited to dive into this, and I'd say hungry. I look hungry. Good morning. But I'm going to start with something you said off-air that was, frankly, downright controversial. You have said the most important food city in America now is...
Starting point is 00:31:15 Philadelphia. LeBron knew what he was doing. So tell us why. I think it's Philly. Philadelphia has proximity to ingredients, proximity to land, and they have some of the most innovative restaurants in the country. There are two on our list this year at Bon Appetit. One is Sao, which is a South Asian restaurant, and then honeysuckle, which I think I would call a modern American restaurant that is so innovative. I think both of these restaurants are transforming cuisine. That's something that you're going to see across the entire landscape on all of our restaurants. We have 19 restaurants and 16 cities all moving, dining into in a very exciting direction.
Starting point is 00:31:55 But I'm going to go with Philly on that one. That's extraordinary. So we have, in terms of cities, represent on the list, some you'd expect, right? New York's on here a couple of times, Los Angeles. But talk to us about some of the perhaps less likely culinary destinations because people don't know. Birmingham, Alabama is on the list. This is a restaurant called Bayonet is a Gulf Coast restaurant. and you're going to see not only the beautiful shrimp and in seafood,
Starting point is 00:32:21 but I think what the chef at this restaurant is doing is really taking a look at, what are the fish that we don't see often on menus and then transforming those? You're going to see that with a lot of different kinds of restaurants with not only at the Gulf Coast, you're going to see, we have Austin, we have Nashville is on the list with a restaurant called Junior. All of these restaurants are fun. They're innovative and they're really looking at places that you should be going to see. So when you go home to your family, you will have restaurants that you can go and visit. So let's use Honeycuckle as an example.
Starting point is 00:32:56 You said that it's transforming American cuisine. What's an example? What do you mean by that? So they have a dish called gumbo, not gumbo. And what it is is this beautiful dish of broth. But then there is shrimp and crab. But then they have, they've taken cut. colored greens and made a nory, and they've put the rice on the side. So they're all of the
Starting point is 00:33:20 components that you would have in gumbo. And when you put them together, it makes you question, well, wait, is that gumbo? And then you ask, well, what is gumbo? And I think if a restaurant is really good, it will force you to ask questions that you didn't know you had and it will answer them. So it will say, well, what is gumbo? And then we have another restaurant in New Orleans called, outside New Orleans called St. Clair, which also is doing gumbo, but it's more, it's with a deep, dark rue that's almost like a Brazilian fichuado. Well, what is gumbo? Well, we all get to answer these questions when we go to these restaurants. I truly love to eat in New Orleans. Let's talk about, you know, this is obviously a time where we've spent a lot of time with this show, talk about
Starting point is 00:34:05 rising costs. And that includes food. That certainly includes beef. How are you seeing that play out in some of these restaurants? Well, I think there's a rising cost across the entire landscape. It's not only with beef, it's in the supply chain. So you're going to, but what's more important is the rising cost of labor. It's very expensive for restaurants to operate. Food costs, I mean, we've even seen with a lot of news about the supply chain, it's going to play out in the cost of your meals, the cost of labor across the entire landscape. people should be expecting to pay more at more at restaurants. When we talk about the rise in cost of beef, there were a lot of
Starting point is 00:34:50 steakhouses that opened in the past year. And it's a very safe restaurant to open is a steakhouse. But what we're seeing in our best new restaurants list is a lean towards wine bars and a lean into less safe ideas about food. So even though like a safe restaurant is a steakhouse or a French bistro, even the ones that are going French are not going classically French, they're leaning more into their sense of place, their sense of community. So on that note, I know the creepies, which is an interesting name. Creepies in Chicago, as you say, it is a French bistro, but it's set, it really uses its Midwestern
Starting point is 00:35:34 setting. Yes, you're going to see at Creepies a real lean into Midwestern sensibilities. There are these references to Chicago, Chicago beef, for example, with the Jardinera. Lots of really exciting dishes. There's a gujar, and it's going to ooze all over your hand with cheese from the Midwest. Those kinds of restaurants, they add this soupsand of humor, this soupsand of place, and those make really fun places to eat. I mean, it's a tough time economically. Is it a good time to be opening a restaurant?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Is it harder than ever? Like, how is it? Well, you know, restaurateurs have moxie. You know, you have to be really interested in vision and interested in restaurants to open a restaurant. It's always a great time to open a restaurant. When the food is delicious, when the chefs have vision, when you have a team that is leaning into that sensibility and vision and the food is delicious, it's always going to be a great time to open a restaurant. So last one, just your dealer's choice, what would be one more restaurant you really feel like people should know about? From the outside of, oh gosh, Jules in San Francisco is this incredible pizza restaurant with everything starts with a sourdough.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Waylon Mills is an all-day cafe and that one's in Seattle, Washington. Every place you're going to go and then lay the wine bar here in New York City and Cabawa, the restaurant, the Caribbean restaurant, transformative on Caribbean cuisine. across this entire list of restaurants, you're going to find something that is going to be incredible to eat. You're going to learn about some new place, and you're going to have a delicious meal from start to finish. Kabawa. Sounds like it could be lunch later today. The new issue of Bon Appetit, featuring the best new restaurants of 2026 is out now. Editor-in-chief of Bonapete, Jimi La Robinson. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. And we want to end this morning back where we
Starting point is 00:37:35 began the latest on Iran. We've had a lengthy discussion earlier about how the administration is leaning into economic pressure. The military campaign has stalled out. They're leaning against negotiations. President Trump, for his part, well, he suggests it's working. He just went to Social claiming Iran is completely collapsing. He didn't provide any evidence of that, but we do expect to hear later today from Treasury Secretary Scott Besant with details on those economic sanctions. Let's see if they apply to places like China and Russia that have been doing business with Iran throughout this war. More on that tomorrow. That does it for us this morning. We will see again, Eastern tomorrow morning. Money, power, politics with Stephanie Rule is up next after a short
Starting point is 00:38:15 final break.

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