Morning Joe - Four killed, 20 injured in Ukraine as Russia continues to fire drones and missiles into cities

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Four killed, 20 injured in Ukraine as Russia continues to fire drones and missiles into cities ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He's a different kind of a guy. He's got a lot of good ideas, but he's got a lot of ideas. You know, normally they don't have any ideas, and that's why we have problems with autism and so many other things, because we're coming up with the answers. That was President Trump yesterday, defending Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. after a tense hearing last week on Capitol Hill, we're going to look at whether Republican lawmakers will try to convince the president to move on from the embattled H.H. Secretary. Meanwhile, protesters took to the streets of Chicago this weekend as the president continues to threaten the city with National Guard troops, though we'll see what happens. We'll go through what the administration actually has planned for Chicago. We'll dig into new polling on how Americans are feeling about President Trump's handling of key issues, including immigration, also ahead.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And there it is, Arena Sabalekha, defends her title at the U.S. Open. There was some great tennis over the weekend. We'll have a recap of the U.S. Open for you all. And Joe, you enjoyed some of it. Some of it, right? It was great. Yeah, sure did. Enjoyed it along with you.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And also saw the women's finals on Saturday. Apparently, I picked the right day to go as a fan yesterday. My gosh, the lines that were backed up. A lot of people even missing the first set. It was a mess getting in there yesterday. But quite a tennis match actually broke out after. all of the logistics got taken care of it. Exactly. We'll have much more ahead.
Starting point is 00:02:02 With us, we have the co-host of our fourth hour staff writer at the Atlantic, Jonathan Lemire, columnist and associate editor for the Washington Post. David Ignatius is with us, and White House correspondent for Reuters. Jeff Mason is with us as well. Our top story this morning, Russia, carried out more attacks. Well, Mika, is the top story the bills, what the bills did last night? No. Is that the top story?
Starting point is 00:02:27 Because I think Jonathan O'Meer, is that not at the top of your list? I mean, just an extraordinary comeback for season one game. I think Josh Allen may have locked down the MVP early in September. Game of the year? Week one, maybe. It was so great to have the NFL back. It was sort of an uninspiring slate of games, as it turned out, until last night. And it's the best show in sports right now is Josh Allen versus Lamar Jackson. And both players making just extraordinary plays all day long.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And let's add Derek Henry, too, for the Ravens. Baltimore builds a big lead. You think this thing is over? It is not. Baltimore comes flying back. Allen, some tremendous plays. Gets the deflection for the touchdown. Henry puts the ball on the ground for a fumble.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And then the late field goal wins it for Buffalo. So we'll have a lot more, of course, on the NFL throughout the morning. But, Joe, last night, I mean, sign us up for Buffalo, Baltimore. see this again in January in the AFC title game. Okay. And, of course, here, two quarterbacks that have had trouble getting into the Super Bowl. But what a show last night, Mika. I know you stayed up to the very last field goal.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I couldn't believe it. I just was like, I'm going to stay up. I'm going to say, I've got to watch this. Pablo's coming up. We'll talk about all of this. All right. Now we'll get to our top story. Turn Joe's mic off.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Russia carried out more attacks in Ukraine through the weekend, launching over 800 drones and firing more than a dozen missiles at Kiev and other cities on Saturday and Sunday. At least four people were killed in the Capitol and more than 20 others were injured. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called the attacks a, quote, deliberate crime. Russia, meanwhile, denied that its attacks targeted civilians, claiming they were aimed at transport infrastructure and Ukraine's military industrial complex. Last night at Joint Base Andrews, President Trump said leaders from Europe will be in the states today and tomorrow to discuss the war in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Well, we're going to see. I mean, we have some very interesting discussions. You know, Europe, certain European leaders are coming over to our country on Monday or Tuesday and individually. And I think we're going to get that. settled. I think we're going to get it settled. David Ignatius, since Anchorage, since all the European leaders met in Washington,
Starting point is 00:05:06 Vladimir Putin's attacks against Kiev against Ukraine have been absolutely savage. They've been the worst attacks over that time period than any time during the war. The president sounded yesterday like he may be
Starting point is 00:05:23 moving towards sanctions. At this stage, I'm not really sure how they could do anything but really start to put the pressure on Vladimir Putin because the attacks are more savage and more targeted at civilians than ever before, aren't they? So, Joe, yesterday's attacks were the largest of the war, more than 800 drones, 13 plus missiles. And more notably, they were on this, many of them were on the center of Kiev. The council of ministers was hit. That's a building that many of us when we're in Ukraine go visit officials and has generally not been targeted in the war. What we're seeing is, I think, an absolutely decisive, brutal statement by Vladimir Putin that he doesn't want a settlement of the war. He wants to win the war.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And he's prepared to keep fighting until he gets what he wants, which is essentially a capitulation. by the Ukrainian government on key security issues. He wants effective dominance of Ukraine's military. He certainly wants Ukraine out of NATO. President Trump had hoped, I think, admirably, that he might be able to settle this war. But the Alaska summit was a bust. And although he talked yesterday about being
Starting point is 00:06:46 willing to impose economic sanctions against Russia, I think most people are guessing right now, that's simply not going to be enough to alter the course of this war, that people are going to think seriously about more weapons, a more decisive posture for Ukraine supporters, especially the European countries. But yesterday was a chilling day for anybody who hopes this terrible war can come to an end anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:07:14 My feeling is it's going to continue a long while. The death and destruction are only going to get worse. And of course the attacks, Jonathan O'Meer, have been decidedly on Russia's side. The intensification of the attack since Anchorage, the continued slaughter of civilians since Anchorage. Just the absolute brutal onslaught unprecedented in this war have happened since Anchorage. What are you hearing from the White House about any response? that the president, the Senate, where an overwhelming majority of senators want to get tough on Russia. What are you hearing from the White House over this weekend as Vladimir Putin's
Starting point is 00:08:03 slaughter of Ukrainian civilians continue by the day? Yeah, and Russia's only ratcheted up their attacks since Anchorage for two reasons. One, certainly Putin believes he has some momentum in this war, at least time is on his side. And then secondly, it's as those, you know, around Washington believe it's an open act of defiance against President Trump. Trump has said repeatedly, and we've chronicled on this show, Joe, we've seen Trump's evolution growing more and more frustrated with Putin. The language has gotten tougher. No doubt. Trump's been tougher on Putin the way he talks, but he hasn't really followed through with any actions outside of the one set of secondary sanctions against India.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And clearly, that hasn't been enough. The Senate's been ready to go. The Senate's been ready to go for months. And off the record, Republican senators deeply frustrated it. They've been waiting for the White House to give the OK. The White House simply hasn't done that yet. And even over the weekend, we did hear from President Trump a few times saying, well, it might be time for these sanctions. He's been saying that for weeks. And yet he hasn't followed through Jeff Mason.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So that's just it. Is there a sense right now that this is finally the moment where it could occur? Because there's real anxiety growing in Europe that Trump is not going to follow through with these sanctions, at least not in any meaningful way. That to David Ignatius's point, maybe they wouldn't be enough anyway. And also, the U.S. remains wishy-washy as to what sort of role it may or may not play in keeping security guarantees in Europe whenever a peace deal does come. Jonathan, I think that's the key question.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And we've been, there's just been so many moments that have seemed like the key moment over the last several months where, as you rightly said, the president has been showing increasing frustration, and he was showing increasing frustration before the Alaska summit. And then he invited President Putin to come to the United States to meet with him. I asked him this last night on the Tarmac at Joint Base Andrews. I asked him about the fact that he always talks about how good that relationship is, and yet he's not getting anything out of Putin that he wants. And he responded by, again, talking about their good relationship,
Starting point is 00:10:02 but also repeating that he's not happy or he's not thrilled with what's going on. The big sort of policy question is, does that not being thrilled or not being happy translate into more action? And for the last several months, it hasn't. Things are ready, and Secretary Besson talked about that on Meet the Press yesterday, but the question is, will they bring that over the finish line in terms of actually putting secondary sanctions into place? Well, we have an update for you now on the military strike, carried out by the Pentagon
Starting point is 00:10:35 on a boat, allegedly carrying drugs in the Caribbean. According to the White House, the attack targeted members of a powerful Venezuelan gang. On Saturday, Vice President J.D. Vance posted the following message on social media, quote, killing cartel members who poison our fellow citizens is the highest and best use of our military. He followed that by writing, quote, Democrats, let's send your kids to die in Russia, Republicans. Actually, let's protect our people from the scum of the earth. when another user suggested that assassinations without due process amount to war crimes, Vance wrote back, quote, I don't give a blank what you call it. That's when Republican Senator Randall jumped in, writing J.D., I don't give a blank Vance, says killing people, he accuses of a crime is the highest and best use of the military. Did he ever read to kill a mockingbird? Did he ever wonder,
Starting point is 00:11:39 What might happen if the accused were immediately executed without trial or representation? What a despicable and thoughtless sentiment it is to glorify killing someone without a trial. Joe, that's a little bit of interesting back and forth between J.D. Vance and Rand Ball. Yeah, it's two Republicans. One Republican celebrating, blowing things out of the water, people without a trial. And, of course, he's also part of the same administration that swore they would only send hardened criminals to a maximum security prison in El Salvador. And yet, Axis and multiple other outlets reported that the administration got that wrong time and time again. The people that they sent to El Salvador, up to 75, 80 percent were sent with no criminal
Starting point is 00:12:38 record. And the United States are across the globe. So, again, the shoot first, ask questions later, attack. Obviously, David Ignatius, with all the mistakes this administration has made with their approach to whether it's deporting migrants or other things, it is, a chilling point. And to a much larger level, to have a vice president of the United States trying to just provoke on X talking about, oh, they want to send your kids to Russia to die. Nobody wants to send their kids to Russia to die. That's just a lie. It's just an absolute total lie. And yet that's somehow his justification for the celebration of using the military to blow up people in a boat without any due process whatsoever. So good for Rand Paul for
Starting point is 00:13:51 calling this out directly and bluntly. What many national security lawyers are asking is whether the president has any foundation in law for this attack, it appears to have been a drone or helicopter attack on a boat carrying what appear to have been drug smugglers who were associated with the Venezuelan gang, Trend Dioragua. I'm sure they're, you know, terrible people doing despicable crimes, but that's not what our military is for. We have specific procedures for enforcing laws against smuggling drugs into the United States. We are not at war with these drug cartels, as Vice President Vance suggests. And you can't make up a legal rationale for that on the spot just because you think they're bad people.
Starting point is 00:14:52 The Coast Guard is charged with this responsibility. If the president wants to begin to use lethal force against drug smugglers, He should go to Congress. He should find a way to authorize it legally. But there's a question deeper here, Joe, I think, which is, what's the military's responsibility to push back? Our military is supposed to obey lawful orders. But that doesn't mean that they're exempt from thinking carefully.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Is this a lawful order that I've been given? Whoever was told of fire on this boat carrying the drug smugglers, needs to have asked, am I being given a lawful order by the commander-in-chief? And we're at the point where we really need to insist that as part of our country, the way our country works, the military will obey the president, obey the commander-in-chief, but we'll ask the appropriate questions,
Starting point is 00:15:49 as Rand Paul did, as a senator bravely did. And I think we're going to have a serious debate now about what are the limits of the president's authority to use for us? You can't just say, you know, I'm going after this. You need legal authority. And, of course, Jonathan O'Meer, the reason why Rand Paul started his tweet for the uninitiated, if you're just looking at that tweet, he called him, J.D., quote, I don't give a shit, quote, Vance, is, again, Vance's response, the vice president of the United States
Starting point is 00:16:23 response to somebody suggesting that it might be a war crime. and and the and and and and jadey vans's response was quote i don't give a shit yeah and the vice president seems to view his role as just trash talker uh he goes on you know social media all the time and like picks fights with some this case a fellow republican but journalists and others and maybe that speaks to the limits of the powers of the office but but jd vance you know it's certainly it's not just it's childish uh but also there are real concerns as david just said about the legality of this strike. And I did some reporting on this last week as well. And this is a changing role for the United States military, where it's fighting crime, if you will. Like, these are
Starting point is 00:17:07 drug smugglers, allegedly, although there's yet to be evidence produced as to exactly who these people were, what they had. Also, we're seeing the National Guard on the streets the United States in Washington for now, and we keep hearing threats about other cities, including the President of the United States, invoking a Vietnam Apocalypse Now reference about sending the U.S. military, now the Department of War to Chicago in the days ahead. And Mika, I don't think this is going to end anytime soon. As part of our reporting last week on this strike, U.S. officials that we spoke to said that, like, they thought this was a very effective tactic here. They wanted to try something new in times of combating gangs and drug smuggling. And those are noble causes, of course,
Starting point is 00:17:49 but maybe not like this. And they think there's going to be more of this. We're seeing this posture of more and more U.S. military assets in the Caribbean, you know, potentially targeting gangs, particularly those associated with Venezuela, I'd be, I wouldn't bet this would be a one-off right here. We'll be following that. Joe? Well, I mean, but here's the thing. Targeting gangs. Targeting gangs, blowing them out of the water because they have decided unilaterally that they were gangs. Just like they decided unilaterally, who were dangerous criminals, who were dangerous members of gangs that they shoved on to transport planes and took to a maximum security prison in El Salvador, because apparently
Starting point is 00:18:40 these people had committed heinous crimes on the streets of the United States and were gang members. And again, after they get down there, we find out 75, 80, some new sources say up to 90% of the people rounded up off the streets, shoved onto those transport planes, sent down to El Salvador, while judges are telling them to stop because they're not criminals, because they didn't get due process. We find out later that 75, 80, 90 percent of the those people sent down to El Salvador, according to the news reports, were not people and gangs who had committed these crimes that the administration claimed that they did. So now instead of transporting them, now these alleged gang members are just being killed.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Shoot first, and nobody's around to ask questions later, I guess. It's pretty chilling. We'll stay on top of this. And still ahead on Morning Joe, the White House is looking to ramp up its mass deportation efforts, launching new ice raids in Massachusetts. We'll bring you the latest on that. Plus, President Trump appears to suggest going to war with Chicago. We'll dig into that and the reaction it is receiving from Democratic leaders and a reminder of the Morning Joe podcast available each weekday featuring our full conversations and analysis. You can listen wherever you get your podcasts. You're watching Morning Joe.
Starting point is 00:20:19 We'll be right back. Welcome back. Welcome back. It's 22 past the hour. Time now for a look at some of the other stories making headlines this morning. The Catholic Church has a new saint, a millennial, known as God's influencer. Carlo Acutus died of leukemia in 2006 when he was just 15 years old. He was a computer whiz who taught himself how to program and build a website cataloging more than 100 miracles around the world. Pope Leo said his example serves as an invitation to all of us,
Starting point is 00:21:07 especially young people, to not squander life, but rather make it a masterpiece. Former President Joe Biden has landed on a location for his presidential library. The center will be constructed in Delaware, the state he represented in the U.S. Senate, for more than 30 years. As the AP reports, the library will include an immersive museum and serve as a hub for leadership, service, and civic engagement. Now comes the effort to raise tens of millions of dollars to fund the site's development. And an alumni group at West Point is scrubbing, a ceremony meant to recognize actor and veterans advocate Tom Hanks. The prestigious award is intended to highlight those who exemplify duty, honor, and country. In announcing the move, the group said the cancellation would allow the academy to focus on preparing its cadets for the future.
Starting point is 00:22:06 As the Washington Post reports, the email did not say whether Hank's award, has been revoked or if it will be presented in some other format. In 2020, Hanks participated in a campaign fundraiser with Joe Biden. Joe, what's going on here? I was just going to ask Jonathan Amir or Jeff Mason if they knew what was going on. I mean, here's a guy, of course, we could talk about saving Private Ryan, we could talk about Band of Brothers, we could talk about the Pacific, We could talk about crayons. We could talk about a man, a Hollywood star, one of the biggest Hollywood stars of our time, who has spent most of his movie career, Jonathan, celebrating the heroism of those in uniform, those fighting for the United States of America and fighting for democracy.
Starting point is 00:23:03 It certainly seemed strange that this West Point group decided to take away. this ceremony after putting it out there. What can you tell us? Yeah, you'd be hard pressed to find a Hollywood actor or a pop culture figure who's done more to celebrate what is good about the U.S. military in recent decades than Tom Hanks. And this appears to be, and I'll go to Jeff Mason, Jeff, it certainly appears to be another moment of, you know, low-scale sort of retribution or everything is politics now, whether it's the president or the secretary of war, Pete Hegseth, or the like, who are just, who don't, who cannot handle any sort of opposition, who like, if you like, if you supported
Starting point is 00:23:47 the Democrats, if you supported Joe Biden, then you're out. You're deemed woke or weak or whatever justification you want to have. And it's simply, this is not, you know, it just seems so remarkably petty. And it trickles down to everything from, you know, for major, major decisions to, you know, more minor, if you want to call this a minor decision, Jonathan. I mean, the history that the president has shown over the last several months since coming into office of retribution, as you rightly say, includes denigrating people who he just doesn't, who he doesn't like because they didn't support him. That's, I thought it was interesting yesterday at the U.S. Open that
Starting point is 00:24:26 Bruce Springsteen was there. Springsteen, of course, was a big supporter of President Biden and President Obama and, you know, President Trump has criticized him. He's criticized Hamilton when Hamilton pulled out of coming to the Kennedy Center and said he never really liked that musical. It's all in line with just that kind of an attitude towards people who don't support him. And speaking of the Open, President Donald Trump's visit to the U.S. Open in New York City caused significant delays and frustrations for attendees. Trump was met with a mix of booze and cheers as he entered Arthur Ash Stadium yesterday, just as 15 minutes before the highly contested match between Carlos Alcaraz and Yannick Sinner.
Starting point is 00:25:15 The final in the men's singles, this was his first time attending the U.S. Open since 2015. The stadium was only 10% full at the time of Trump's rival. I had friends in this crowd, and I was getting a lot of video coming in. Everyone looked miserable. Many spectators faced hours-long delays to clear security because of long lines. Officials delayed the match by a half hour to give fans more time to get their seats. But quite frankly, a lot of people missed the first set or many of the first games. President Trump, before he watched yesterday's match at the U.S. Open, the United States Tennis Association,
Starting point is 00:25:57 asked broadcasters not to air any, quote, disruptions or reactions in response to the president's attendance in any capacity. While critics said the move amounted to censorship, others pointed to a routine policy where broadcasters are asked to avoid showing interruptions like people running onto the field. I mean, I think they were trying to avoid the booze. Let's just, that's kind of, I've never heard of that happening before. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, I've never heard of that happening. Well, I don't know. Let's talk to somebody much wiser than us, David Ignatius.
Starting point is 00:26:39 We can ask him if he's ever heard of it before. You know, it's interesting, David. As I'm sitting there, I was watching the crowds outside. And, of course, everybody's, you know, not happy about that at all. At the same time, I'm sure the U.S. Tennis Association of the U.S. Open would be glad any time to have a president of the United States at their event. So I will say the U.S. Open, what Mika and I saw was run remarkably well, yes, throughout the entire time there, just extraordinary how they moved people in and out. But, you know, I was sitting there watching the crowds outside, understanding how angry
Starting point is 00:27:13 they were at the same time. You sit there going, well, if you could get a, if you get a present to an event, that's not a bad thing. So I'm just wondering exactly how you do that. So, Joe, the same problem arises when the president wants to go to the Super Bowl. Any of these huge events, the security required is enormous, no way around that. And so it does impose delays on people. The idea that the president can go to one of these public venues wanting to be seen, but somehow the reaction to his being there will be suppressed so you don't know whether people are cheering or booing. that that's not on uh if you if you want to go and impose the delays on people you're going to have
Starting point is 00:28:01 to let the public see how how how how people are reacting to you uh interesting to see steve whitkoff is is ambassador to everywhere sitting next to him at the u.s open um but if the president wants to go watch little tennis as opposed to golf uh as a tennis player i'm all for it and mika david's right that certainly any time of any president of any party goes to an event like this, there's going to be major security issues, are going to be delays. They even push back the start of the match. But an effort to suppress the reaction, we live in an age of cell phones. We live in an age of social media. And very quickly, these clips went viral. Yes, there was a few cheers mixed in, but it was largely booze. I'm sure some of it, frustration because of the long lines outside.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And also because simply, you know, this event is being held in New York City. We know President Trump not particularly popular in his full. Brown. All right, the Washington Post, David Ignatius, thank you very much. His latest piece is available to read online right now. White House correspondent for Reuters. Jeff Mason, thank you as well for your reporting. And coming up, Pablo Tori will help us break down all of the action from week one in the NFL. Morning Joe is coming right back. 35 past the hour. Look at that beautiful show. shot of New York City. And speaking of New York City mayoral candidate, Zoran Mamdani, and
Starting point is 00:29:29 independent senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont rallied in Brooklyn this weekend as part of Sanders' national fighting oligarchy tour. The duo slammed President Trump while sharing their shared progressive message as Mamdani works to energize his base in the final weeks of the race. The interconnectedness of an attack on working people all to enrich those same billionaire donors that gave us Donald Trump's second term. This is a city where we will choose our own mayor. It's not going to be Donald Trump. You have the president of the United States working to make it harder for him to get elected.
Starting point is 00:30:19 So what are these people? people, these oligarchs, of freedom. Seems to be a nice guy. Dresson's very nice. Beautiful smile. President Trump has said he wants to see the due candidates drop out of the race. This, as the New York Times reports, Trump allies are considering offering jobs to Republican candidate Curtis Slewa and incumbent mayor Eric Adams in an effort to boost former governor, Andrew Cuomo's chances of winning. Jonathan Lemire, what's going on here?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yeah, the president wants this to be a one-on-one race that he believes that Cuomo has the best chance to beat Mamdani and that would be hindered if Slewa and Mayor Adams. He polls the best. I think anyone, though, would be a significant underdog to Mamdani, even in a one-on-one race. But a one-on-one race would be closer. In a divided field like this, Mondani is going to skate to a victory. The rumors are swirling about Adams to the point that current mayor, that on Friday, the mayor had to hold our news conference to declare that he's staying in the race, at least for now, because there's been reporting.
Starting point is 00:31:27 There could be an ambassadorship to Saudi Arabia. There's been reporting about the potential of a job at HUD for the mayor. And he is, Joe, and I've talked to people close to the mayor, is toying with the idea. Though even though he said on Friday, he's staying in, he has not ruled out entirely jumping out of the race and into the administration. Curtis Sleevo, the Republican, doesn't seem to be entertaining this. He wants to keep running. It's also unclear, Joe, whether or not this would actually help Andrew Cuomo because if Andrew Cuomo is seen as benefiting from President Trump stepping into the race,
Starting point is 00:31:58 that's only going to drive more voters to Mondani. Well, what I don't understand is from the White House side of this politically, wouldn't they prefer to have a Democratic socialist as mayor of New York City that they could play off all the time like they play off against AOC? or Nancy Pelosi or Bernie Sanders, you would think they would love,
Starting point is 00:32:23 especially with, you know, these wars on cities, the ship apocalypse or whatever you call it, you would think they would love to have a political target, to just constantly hammer away at. Yeah, I mean, I was told in recent weeks about people around the president that that was their thinking, that they think they respect Mamdani's talent as a political athlete, but they thought that, okay, well, he'd be a good foil.
Starting point is 00:32:49 But Trump himself seems a little less sure of that. And he actually does seem to like Andrew Cuomo. The two men have spoken about how they've just known each other for a long time. Obviously, they've been in odds, you know, repeatedly, including when Cuomo was governor of New York during the pandemic. So let's not suggest these men are allies by any means. But Trump privately has said he respects Cuomo. He likes Cuomo. He likes the Cuomo family name.
Starting point is 00:33:13 He likes the connection to the Kennedys, all that. So that's playing a role here too, Mika. But I do think that at the end of the day, the White House probably would prefer Mamdani as a political foil. And certainly, Mamdani is the favorite to win. Even if this does eventually winnow down to a two-person race or a three-person race, it'd be difficult for him to lose as the Democratic nominee and now getting some national support as well. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:33:40 All right. Still ahead on Morning Joe, Health Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is reportedly set. to announce a link between autism and Tylenol use during pregnancy. We'll dig into that report from the Wall Street Journal and the impact this could have on public health. Plus, Democratic Governor Andy Beshear of Kentucky will be our guest this morning. Morning Joe will be right back. Candace, New England Defense Hold. Bowers in motion.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Goal. Gentile. So much power. He's going to beg it in. Extra jumbo package on third and goal. Play action. Burrow throws wide open touchdown. No offense. On second at goal, Murray.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Left side. Pass completes. Marvin Harrison, touchdown. Cardinals. Jones. With time. Touch pass. He's got a man. Pitman, touchdown!
Starting point is 00:34:51 Gonna give it to Samuel and around. Looking for blocks, he gets him. Samuel is in touchdown, commanders. Brian Thomas Jr. is in for a Jacksonville touchdown. 60-yard attempt. It would be a new career long for Boswell. For the lead, sweeps the leg, 60-yarder. He's got it.
Starting point is 00:35:23 They field on first down, throws. Oh! Touchdown! Four-man rush. Nix, pumps, throws, got a man. It's a sudden. It's a touchdown. Dobbs would be a guy they expect would come up big in this game, and he has so far.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Here he is throwing. to the end zone he's got a touchdown pass to jaden reed that's you saying that we got two we got two one wide receivers stafford end zone caught touchdown grabbed by the tight end he swinged out into the end zone wasn't open purdy keeping it alive brook purdy lopswan it is tangents touchdown san francisco Does it get some of the big place yesterday and their winning teams across the NFL. Let's go now, though, to Buffalo for last night's really incredible finish. I mean, the fourth quarter, just an unbelievable comeback against the Baltimore Ravens by Josh Allen's bills.
Starting point is 00:36:29 The clock runs down. Prater lines up for a game winning field goal. From 32 yards, Prater! And the Bills opened their final season in this stadium with a stunning combat win. Matt Prater with the game's winning field goal just days after the 41-year-old signed with the team because of an injury to the bill's starting kick. Now get this, Buffalo is down 15 points, 15 points in the final four minutes. But rallied in a frantic finish complete with tips.
Starting point is 00:37:11 to win in the fourth quarter. Let's bring right now the host of Pablo Tori finds out on metal art media. MSNBC contributor, Poblator. So, Pablo, for people that didn't watch any games yesterday, let me just quickly summarize. Just to save them hundreds and hundreds of hours of you. Please.
Starting point is 00:37:31 All the time I wasted yesterday. This is what we found out yesterday. My Falcons are still the Falcons. Lamere's Patriots are still the Patriots. The Giants are still the Giants. Yeah. The Jets. Oh, my Lord.
Starting point is 00:37:53 The Jets are still the Jets. Yeah, I mean, I mean. So now he can play is the back page of the post sports fellow, which is the right response. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, because he's not a jet uniform you were. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:38:13 It seems to me a lot of kind of middling game yesterday, which was unusual because it wasn't that way last year. But it seems to be Pablo, two big storylines here. One, obviously, Josh Allen and the Bills, but also the Packers dominating the Lions. Yeah. Pretty much for four quarters, that was one of the biggest surprises. And I think one of the big stories of week one. What did you see?
Starting point is 00:38:37 Oh, look, I, the Jordan and Love thing, I want to lead with that because Jordan Love is taking a leap, the Lambo leap, pun intended, I suppose. But this is the guy, by the way, who replaced Aaron Rogers for those who are just catching up on the lore of him. And the Lions, yeah, this is, it was, I believe, your Super Bowl pick last year. It might have been a reasonable Super Bowl pick this year. And that offense, it's a 13 points there. That is the disappointment. That is the eye opener. because look, Jared Goff is an MVP candidate.
Starting point is 00:39:10 That's how good he's been since going over there. And they basically enter with a whimper, right? So that's the story of the NFC right there in that picture. But last night, I mean, the Josh Allen thing, if we can go to that game, if you can return to that for a second, any time you have the star quarterback, the MVP candidate and Josh Allen against Lamar Jackson, there is the heavyweight fight poster.
Starting point is 00:39:33 That was the biggest game of the day. Yes. We waited for it. Underneath this very thin layer of powder are the bags under my eyes which validate that I stayed up for it. But I'll tell you who didn't a bunch of people in Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And Josh Allen post game was like I saw people in Buffalo. I saw us, our fans, leave the building. And look, any time Josh Allen, a player, points that how post game, it's an indication of you really gave up on us, huh? But the reason why I think is fairly understandable, Joe. As you put it, 15 in the, my voice is cracking 15 in the fourth.
Starting point is 00:40:12 You know, this is, this was Josh Allen, prime time, regular season. I don't know if there's a better player, given that particular set of circumstances. It seems like a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. I come in, bleary-eyed saying, look at the super soldier, Josh Allen, do it again in the regular season. This was an incredible way to start the season. It was an incredible game, an incredible way to start the season. And Jonathan Lemire, of course, we're all talking this morning about Josh Allen,
Starting point is 00:40:43 but Lamar Jackson, what a game, and my gosh, Derek Henry, just running up and down the field all night. That guy, an incredible running back. You know, he's a lot like Chapman with the Red Sox. He keeps getting better with age. I'm not exactly sure how he does it. Talk about that, but also, I want to just circle back and say, not only were the Lions, going to the earlier Lions Packers game,
Starting point is 00:41:06 not only was that my pick last year, that was my pick this year. And I think when we went around the table last week, most of the people picked the Lions. But, man, a slow start for Dan Campbell's team. Yeah, my Buffalo Green Bay pick looks pretty good after one day, one day. But you're right. First of all, last night, you're right. I mean, it was what a marvelous game.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Lamar Jackson, who many people think could have, should have won the MVP last year. Alan got it. But he and Alan, I mean, it was, they played to a draw. The two of them were spectacular. Alan got the ball last. Derek Henry defies age. He's well past the prime, usually for running backs. He continues to do it. I know his night was marred somewhat by that fumble at the end, but he was spectacular throughout that. But it also was a relief, Pablo. We were talking about it earlier that this was a, it was a pretty ragged week one. And I think that's becoming more, last year might have been the exception. That's becoming more and more of the trend because so few of
Starting point is 00:41:59 these guys play in the preseason, you know, for fear of injuries and the new CBA and all that, which makes sense. But it leads to week one being, being a little suspect. But the Packers looked really good yesterday, and we do have to spend a moment. I mean, Aaron Rogers. Yeah. We should. We should. Because of the way, you know, first year he gets hurt, four plays in, fine. Last year, he's terrible and a bad attitude throughout. And he comes into MetLife Stadium yesterday and throws four touchdowns and they win. Yeah, probably the pettiest athlete in sports. Yes. You know, just a guy who. was told by the head coach of the New York Jets, we don't want you. And post-game, Aaron Rogers says
Starting point is 00:42:36 that was, yes, if you were wondering, very motivational for me, Aaron Rogers. And look, the thing about Rogers also, man, it's a New York thing. Like, the comedy of me walking in with these tabloids is that it's not just Aaron Rogers, who looks like he is the best version of himself after leaving the Jets. It's also a gentleman by the name of Daniel Jones, by the way. former Giants quarterback, I wish Richard Haas was here just so I could. I do most of us.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I want an EKG reading of Richard Haas this morning because Daniel Jones was a laughing stock and rightfully so on the way out of the New York Giants and now here he is with the cult starting quarterback three touchdowns, two on the ground. It looks like he is the best version of himself.
Starting point is 00:43:19 So this is New York sports in a very, I would say, I don't know, appropriately cosmic taunting way. I think I enjoy conversely. Yeah. Yeah, I know you do. So speaking of New York sports,
Starting point is 00:43:34 we'll talk about New York sports at its best to find people who put on the U.S. Open every year. What an incredible open it was this year. Amazing. And I'm just curious, where do you place the Alcarez Center competition, the rivalry?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Is this going to be R. Bjorg-McR. Yeah. So I'm glad you went there because the tripod had been the story, right? So the previous mantle was held by three men. It was Djokovic to Dahl and Federer. Jokovic is still hanging around on the periphery, but it's a two-man head-to-head competition. Like these guys, if you made every major just, I don't know, like a seven-game series between these two guys, I think everybody would be okay with it. It's effectively what we're getting. And so Sinner being like, again, not to just devolve into caricature, but him being the stayed, focused, calm, almost emotionless, Italian. And then, on the other hand, this guy, the heir to the Vamo's throne, left by Nadal, sleeveless now hair-shorn,
Starting point is 00:44:42 young, handsome, wildly athletic, emotional. Like, that dude, I mean, the box office emotion is one thing. It's also the fact that I think these two guys are going to be doing this forever. They're so young. They're so unbelievably young. And Sinner afterwards said as much.
Starting point is 00:45:00 He was like, look, you know, I became, my game became a little too predictable. I might even have to, like, retool it. And even if that means losing some tournaments along the way, because I have to get to another level because of this guy. He talked about how his rivalry with Al Coraz probably will define the sport for years to come. We're all better for it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:17 So exciting. Pablo Tori, thank you. Always good to see you. And I'll make sure Richard is here for you next time. Give him. Give him. Coming up.

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