Morning Joe - Morning Joe 10/30/24

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

Kamala Harris pairs anti-Trump attack with economic pitch at packed DC rally

We know who Donald Trump is. He is the person who stood at this very spot nearly four years ago and sent an armed mob to the United States Capitol to overturn the will of the people in a free and fair election. We won in a landslide. This was a landslide. An election that he knew he lost. We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved. Americans died as a result of that attack. 140 law enforcement officers were injured because of that attack. And we fight.

We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. It is a choice about whether we have a country rooted in freedom for every American or ruled by chaos and division. You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. This is someone who is unstable, obsessed with revenge, consumed with grievance, and out for unchecked power.

Our fight against the big donors, big media, big tech and others is just getting started. On day one, if elected, Donald Trump would walk into that office with an enemies list. When elected, I will walk in with a to-do list. The weak Republicans, and that's it. I really believe it. I think I'm going to use the term the weak Republicans, and that's it. I really believe it. I think I'm going to use the term, the weak Republicans.

Unlike Donald Trump, I don't believe people who disagree with me are the enemy. He wants to put them in jail. I'll give them a seat at the table. Our media is not free. It's not fair. It suppresses thought. It suppresses speech. And it's become the enemy of the people.

If you give me the chance to fight on your behalf, there is nothing in the world that will stand in my way. Today is not the end. It's just the beginning. Vice President Kamala Harris's address yesterday at the ellipse compared to Donald Trump's rally the very same spot on January 6th, 2021, before his supporters stormed the Capitol. Good morning and welcome to Morning Joe. It is Wednesday, October 30th. Along with Joe, Willie and me, we have the host of Way Too Early, White House bureau

chief at Politico, Jonathan Lemire, U.S. special correspondent at BBC News. Katty Kay is with us and MSNBC contributor Mike Barnacle. And Joe, quite a speech last night. The visuals were incredible. The speech itself was really trying to reach out to all Americans at the most, perhaps, divisive time in modern American history. Well, in what matters the most to Donald Trump, crowd size. The crowd size was absolutely massive.

I mean, I could not believe what I was looking at. It was just absolutely, I mean, the people just came flooding in, in support of Kamala Harris. And I will say, in contrast to what Donald Trump has said, I thought it was compelling. I loved the message last night and she kept going back to it, Willie. She kept going back to how people that disagree with her are not the enemy. She doesn't want to put them in jail.

She wants to put them around the table and listen to them. She kept talking about finding common ground. She kept talking about compromise. She kept talking about being the president of all Americans, even those Americans who vote against her. And what a marked contrast. There's so many distractions in this campaign. Other news channels will get distracted with people who are not running in this campaign.

What matters is what the two people who are running in this campaign are saying. And what they're saying right now is this, what the two people who are running in this campaign are saying and and what they're saying right now is this that for Donald Trump if you oppose him you're an enemy of America you're an enemy from within you're going to get arrested and what Kamala Harris is saying is I'm gonna bring America together I'm going to compromise I'm gonna forge consensus and together. I'm going to compromise. I'm going to forge consensus. And if you would disagree with me, you won't be on my enemies list. You'll be at my table and we'll be talking about how to bring America together.

And just so people don't think this is just some fake generality, she went right there with border crossings, illegal border crossings, securing the southern border. And what did she say? I will work with Republicans like James Lankford to pass his bill, a compromise bill, a tough bill that would have secured the southern border immediately. Donald Trump, he killed that bill because it didn't make sense earn politically let's turn the page let's move to a new chapter. Let's work with those

who may not agree with us all the time. Yeah, it was first of all as me because said that the visual was striking that was the U.S. message was that we're here at the place on one of the darkest days in American history began January 6, 2021. Here with a massive crowd. As you said, Joe, the original permit was for 8,000 people. Then they moved it to 20,000 people. They say there might've been up to 75,000 people, not just in the scanned area for security,

but outside that area, as well waving American flags talking about freedom and setting up the contrast and you know for as deeply as we've been covering this race for gosh almost two years now many Americans as you talk about all the time Joe tune in in this last week even in the last weekend and they say okay I've heard a lot of noise let me dial in let me lock in let me listen to what I'm dealing with here." And they saw it on display last night. And Vice President Harris kind of led the crowd there on a journey from the American

Revolution talking about the petty tyrant that was King George III, how American freedom, the thirst for freedom overcame that, invoking Normandy, invoking Seneca Falls, invoking Stonewall, all the moments where Americans pushed and fought for freedom and how we're at this point again. And she suggested that we will not, this country, go back to another petty tyrant talking about Donald Trump there. So the contrast could not have been clearer. Oh my gosh.

I want to get to Katty and Mike, but before let's hear a little bit more from Vice President Kamala Harris' major speech last night in Washington, D.C. She spoke to a crowd of the number that we're looking at here is about 60,000 people. That's according to an NBC News estimate. For perspective, the House committee that investigated the January 6th attack estimated that 53,000 people attended Trump's speech there that day. The vice president's speech laid out the threats the former president poses to our democracy

and the kind of president she would be. Look, we know who Donald Trump is, he is the person who stood at this very spot nearly four years ago and sent an armed mob to the United States Capitol to overturn the will of the people in a free and fair election. An election that he knew he lost. Americans died as a result of that attack. 140 law enforcement officers were injured because of that attack. And while Donald Trump sat in the White House watching as the violence unfolded on television, he was told by his

staff that the mob wanted to kill his own vice president. And Donald Trump responded with two words, so what? America, that's who Donald Trump is. And that's who is asking you to give him another four years in the Oval Office. For as long as I can remember, I have always had an instinct to protect. There's something about people being treated unfairly or overlooked that frankly just gets to me. I don't like it.

It's what my mother instilled in me. A drive to hold accountable those who use their wealth or power to take advantage of other people. The drive to protect hardworking Americans who aren't always seen or heard and deserve a voice. And I will tell you, that is the kind of president I will be. And look, I'll be honest with you, I'm not perfect, I make mistakes, but here's what I promise you. I will always listen to you, even if you don't vote for me.

I will always tell you the truth, even if it is difficult to here. I will work every day to build consensus and reach compromise to get things done. And if you give me the chance to fight on your behalf, there is nothing in the world that will stand in my way. On day one if elected, Donald Trump would walk into that office with an enemies list. When elected, I will walk in with a to-do list. Full of priorities of what I will get done for the American people. And I will work with everyone – Democrats, Republicans, and independents – to help Americans who are working hard and still struggling to get ahead. Nearly 250 years ago, America was born when we wrested freedom from a petty tyrant. Across the generations, Americans have preserved that freedom, expanded it, and in so doing,

proved to the world that a government of, by, and for the people is strong and can endure. And those who came before us, the patriots at Normandy and Selma, Seneca Falls and Stonewall, on farmlands and factory floors. They did not struggle, sacrifice and lay down their lives only to see us seed our fundamental freedoms. They didn't do that only to see us submit to the will of another petty tyrant. You know, I've been told through the years since doing this work that people come up and say, why can't politicians work together? Why can't they compromise?

Why are they always campaigning and always taking one extreme side or the other. Why can't they follow the dream that America works best when we work together, that it's a government of the people, for the people, by the people, for the people. John Meacham, some words said last night, I wrote some of them down here, that we haven't heard from Donald Trump ever, where she says, I'm not perfect. I make mistakes.

By the way, that's not weakness. That's a political strength to be able to say that. I will always listen to you. I will always tell you the truth, even when it's hard. I will build the consensus, and I will compromise to get things done. And when I go into the White House on my first day, unlike Donald Trump, I will have a to-do list, while he will have an enemies list.

By the way, he's already told us that. But I think what's so compelling is we've talked about these people, old line Republicans that have been desperately trying to make excuses to vote for a guy who says he's going to be an autocrat. And sometimes they say, oh, she hasn't come to the middle. Oh, she hasn't done it. Here was Kamala Harris last night saying, if you disagree with me, I'm not going to put you on an enemy's list. I'm not going to insult you. I'm going to bring you in. You're going to have a seat at the table and we're going to work

together for compromise, for consensus, for the betterment of the American people. That doesn't sound like Donald Trump. In fact, it doesn't sound like a lot of politicians we've heard over the past 30 years. Now, you know, President Kennedy referred to the office as the vital center of action. And one of the questions we always face is what's going to be the action of the person that we put at the center of that arena. And that's not an ideological term. It's the nature of power, even in a democracy. We're shaped by this transaction often between the leaders and the lead. And we're only as good as we are. But we can be made a little better if you have a president who

speaks the way and who's conducted herself in the way the vice president has. I thought the speech last night was fully part of an American vernacular where you can agree or disagree with this tax rate or that tax rate, but you know what you're getting. You're getting someone who will take the oath seriously. You're getting someone who actually sees, as she said, she's not perfect. No one's canonizing anybody here. But we know what we're getting. And the question is, do you want a president

you would recognize who's working in a tradition that at least goes back to Lincoln, maybe even Jackson? Is it Jackson, Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy-Reagan presidency. Or do you want to risk this on someone whose own appetites are self-evidently consuming? I know where I stand. Yeah. And, Cady Kay, I think also for a lot of people in that audience, people watching, they're looking for someone whose policies and decisions they can depend on.

Because I think it's well documented that Donald Trump will say one thing and do another, which is why it's so confusing that so many people, even these brilliant billionaires will bend to him thinking that's going to help them in some way. Because you really don't know where he's going to land with a Democrat or Republican. If he doesn't like something, he'll change his mind because he doesn't plan to rule like an American president in a democracy. But in terms of policies and decisions that they can depend on, I think what she stands for, for a lot of folks, especially the younger generation and for women and men who love

them, is what they see as a person who will pull back the health care bans That have killed women injured them sterilized them traumatized them and their families. She represents something tangible that is happening now That is injuring people now women now and she represents Something that she will pull back on those restrictions that Donald Trump put in place. So you've done an amazing job, Mika, this week of highlighting the stories of women who are being affected right now as we're having this conversation by those health care bands who are getting close to death in some awful cases have died. By the way, not even women who are pregnant, women who have emergencies with their reproductive organs and they need that health care.

They can't have it in certain states. They literally cannot have them. The law is against them and doctors are afraid to treat them. And it's so good, I think, in this moment that we're hearing those stories and that Kamala Harris is remaining focused on those stories. And I think what we are seeing in some of the early voting numbers with women voting at disproportionate numbers compared to 2020. Now Now I'm reluctant to take too much from early voting because we don't know if people are time shifting. But women are

turning out. Women are turning out in Nebraska, Georgia, they're turning out in very big numbers and for them this is an absolutely critical election. I think at the same time you have Nikki Haley going on Fox News just a few days before the election saying this bro culture is going to I think she described as too edgy but basically what she's saying is going to put women off yeah and that's what you're hearing from the other side a double down on alpha masculinity and then you have Kamala Harris saying we are big enough in America a pluribus unum we can take from many we can make one country and And that is, for me, having lived here so long, that is America's most powerful asset

to us. And this alpha masculinity that they're pushing out that you saw at Madison Square Garden, you see in the Trump campaign and all of his acolytes. I never met an alpha man who didn't want to take care of his wife when she was in need, when she was bleeding out. Hopefully. Those are not real men. Yeah, Nikki Haley went on Fox, I should have said, this campaign, Donald Trump's campaign,

is making women uncomfortable, warning Donald Trump that he's going to lose women voters and perhaps the election because of what we saw at Madison Square Garden as a distillation of that. So Mike, that's the contrast. The Madison Square Garden rally, Donald Trump saying, this is who we are, this is who I am, this is what I stand for, these are the kind of people I want in my tent, contrasted with what we saw from Vice President Harris last night standing at the ellipse with the White House behind her, American flags waving and saying, this is the America that I want

moving forward. And there was one other aspect to it that struck me. The signs, huge signs scattered around the collection of 75,000 people with just one bold word, freedom. And you know, I'm older than you guys. And I'm rooted in a neighborhood that I still see when I shut my eyes growing up. And I was thinking of Janis Joplin's song, freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

And I was thinking of all the people and the families and the street where I grew up who had a lot left to lose when they came here through Ellis Island and built families and built structural foundations for their families in the future. I was thinking of the street that I grew up on where so many men came back from the war having lost a lot in the war, having lost their innocence, having lost their friends, many

of them. Never losing their feeling for this country, for the United States of America. They came back from World War II. They built a new country. They built homes. And they worked in factories. And they raised families. And always the word freedom was precious to them because they fought for it. And the idea that we are now less than a week away, really, from an opponent of Kamala Harris's, who will guaranteed declare victory at 930 or 10 o'clock

next Tuesday night and put this whole concept of freedom. Whether he wins or loses. Of the roots of the United States of America in peril again. For sure. Yeah. 100%. You know, we, of course, a lot of news coming out of Pennsylvania, Puerto Rican communities being upset about what was said at the Trump rally.

Donald Trump still is not backed off of that. I know his campaign was fighting about whether to apologize or not. They did put out a statement. And so we'll see how that plays out. Yesterday, Joe Biden said something off the cuff while he was on phone call, and then later on corrected that in a statement. But that was driving the news on Fox News all day yesterday. But at the end of this campaign,

what it comes down to is what the candidates say. And what I've been saying here and been recommending, what Kamala Harris has been saying, is listen to what Donald Trump's saying. Listen to his words. When he promises you basically a 20% sales tax increase through his tariffs. Believe him, because he says tariffs are beautiful. He says that he's going to jack up the prices on America. And it will be like if he's talking about 20% tariffs, that's a 20% sales tax increase on the clothes you buy, on the groceries you buy, on everything

that you buy. And then you listen to Kamala Harris last night, and she's talking about bringing people together. She's not only talking about, hey, I'm going to move middle, she's in the middle. She says, I'm going to form consensus. I'm going to work with the people who don't agree with me. I'm going to work with the people who didn't vote for me, and I'm not going to consider them my enemies. I'm going to consider them my partners.

This is what I love to see in politicians. They'll work with everyone, and they understand the second they're elected. They are president of all the United States. I wish Donald Trump felt that way. I wish he'd felt that way in 2016. I wish he'd felt that way when he lost in 2020. I wish he felt that way in this campaign. He would actually find that it would make his job, it would make his life, it would make his administration easier, would have made it so much

easier. But Kamala Harris is getting it right. It can't be us against them that always ends up badly in the end. And Jonathan Lemire, speaking about ending up badly in the end, Freddie Freeman started it out right, but my gosh, the Yankees, they came back. It's starting. It is starting. It's time to duck, Lemire. Here come your New York Yankees. An 03 comeback has never been pulled off in the World Series. It's clearly going to happen this year. Yeah, it's time it's

time it's I mean brace yourself you brace yourself, yes, the Dodgers jumped out early last night, Freddie Freeman home runs 4 straight games 6 overall in the World Series they jump out to really lead Yankee state look dead but that they will be right there in a grand slam Yankees rally will talk more about the game later the show but Yankees win 11 for they do force a game 5 that will be tonight the Bronx to get their cold going he's the race they win that they're up 3 to they've got momentum and

the pressure shifts to the Dodgers when the series would go back to La so we'll be watching that. But Joe, a few other things here. You mentioned the controversy over the comedian's comments about Puerto Rico at the Trump Massacre Garden Rally on Sunday. Trump had an event yesterday in Allentown, PA, a heavily Latino community with a sizable Puerto Rican population. He had some Puerto Rican speakers go on before him, but Trump himself did not address the

controversy. Instead, claimed he's done more for Puerto Rico than any other president. We certainly know that not to be the case. And then, as you mentioned, President Biden last night kind of kicked off a firestorm himself. He was on a Zoom with Latino supporters, urging them to vote early.

He addressed the Puerto Rico comments. And what he said was, and I'll just read a little bit here from the transcript, he says that, you know, I know Puerto Ricans from my home state of Delaware. They're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable and un-American. Now, some on the right have seized that comment

to mean his supporters, meaning Donald Trump's supporters, meaning all Trump supporters, half the country, saying the president is calling them garbage. The White House is saying, no, no, there's an apostrophe there. He's talking about his supporter, meaning the comedian. His comments are unconscionable and un-American. That's the controversy last night. The president took to Twitter soon after the Zoom, tried to clean it up, clarifying that

he was not talking about all of the Americans, but it is certainly a half the American public. But it is certainly a controversy that the White House and the Harris campaign dealing with today. And as the right tries to make it, we're showing the tweet here from the president, his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable. The president writes, that's all I meant to say. So the president said something, immediately tried to clarify it, Joe, but it's certainly

a story on the right who are trying to paint this to be the next basket of deplorables. Well, of course, and Donald Trump says shocking things every day in Fox News and all of his apologists of the Republican Party immediately go to it and brush it off, explain it away or just completely ignore it. Here they're trying to make a firestorm out of something that, again, if you look at it, you look at what he said immediately afterward, which Donald Trump didn't say, he immediately afterwards said, no, that's not what I meant. I was talking about the comedian and people that supported that kind of talk.

You know, Willie, Joe Biden obviously doesn't believe that. We had that, I forget what state it was in, but it was during a hurricane, after a hurricane, I believe, and Joe Biden went in and he went and talked to the crowd, went over, talked to a guy who was a big Trump supporter, joked with him, put the hat on him. And again, trying to bring people together and even saying, hey, I'll wear your Trump cap. We're all on the same team. That's again, that's the type of leadership you want.

Yeah, it could be a case and people can watch and judge for themselves of President Biden not being articulate, not being able to put the thought together the way he wanted to, which is kind of what he suggested later. Again, he's not at the top of the ticket. He's not running. But the question is, John's head of an apostrophe, really. So people should watch the clip and really decide for themselves if they think that's something that Joe Biden would say say given his career and his life

that all Trump supporters are garbage. Of course, Donald Trump has described repeatedly recently the entire country, the United States, as a garbage can. So take that for what it's worth as well. Also, Mika, we had one of those interviews last night that we've seen in a genre on Fox News where Sean Hannity or another host interviews Donald Trump and tries to coach him to the right place, tries to get him to say the right thing. And he can't do it. He tried to get him to condemn the Puerto Rico joke, I guess we can call it a joke. It was from a comedian. And finally, at the end of a long answer, Donald Trump said, OK, probably the guy shouldn't

have been there, talking about the comedian, which is as far as he was willing to go to condemn that. So it's so interesting, because as Joe points out, you really have to listen to him and understand his threats and believe them. But when he's on defense, you need to also fact check what he says when he's on the defense. And when it comes to Springfield, Ohio, he doubles down on his lies. You need to fact check it. When you talk about insulting Detroit, I don't even know why he would do that, but he never

pushed back on that. And on this Puerto Rico issue, last night he was saying he's done everything. He was the best president for Puerto Rico. He's going to be everything for Puerto Rico. And I just remember him wanting, am I wrong? Didn't he want to sell Puerto Rico? Yeah. England.

A trade. A straightup trade, I think. So straight up trade and also didn't want to give them the financial support they needed after Hurricane because- At least he says he did. I think a mayor or somebody, maybe a governor, somebody had said something that he didn't like so he got angry so he wanted to punish the entire island because of it. I will say though, again, in contrast,

in contrast to Donald Trump, who just can't admit that he makes mistakes, listen to this. I am not perfect, I make mistakes. And John Meacham, before we got a break, I remember one time listening to Ronald Reagan on the campaign trail they asked him a question he goes I don't know I think was in the 76 campaign and Reagan goes I don't know

I'll have to get back to you and this is the thing I I always found while campaigning when you did something like that or if you did the whole Bill Clinton thing well what do you say about the Republicans who have come up with wall campaigning. When you did something like that, or if you did the whole Bill Clinton thing, well, what do you say about the Republicans who have come up with this idea? Bill Clinton would go, I think that's a great idea. We should do it. The very things that politicians are trained not to do are the very things that Americans love. When they go, as Kamala Harris said, I make mistakes. When Ronald Reagan Reagan admits I'm not an all-being, all-knowing being.

I don't know. Let me check on it and I'll get back to you. Those sort of things. It's something Donald Trump is, I think, temperamentally incapable of doing. I don't know. I don't have the... Because he's always saying, I'm the greatest neurosurgeon ever. I am the greatest ditch digger ever. I am the greatest ditch digger ever. I am

the greatest oil well rig operator. I mean, whatever you're talking about, he's going to say, yeah, I am the greatest in Australian rules football that you've ever seen. Whatever it is, he will say he's the greatest. Sometimes Americans just want to hear politicians say, I don't know. I'm human. And then what Kamala Harris said, I am not perfect, I make mistakes, but I'm going to listen to you, just the opposite of Donald Trump last night, who couldn't even say upfront to Sean Hannity, which Sean Hannity was trying to get him to say, you know what, the comedian shouldn't have been there. That was a big mistake.

And I'm sorry. I take it on my shoulders. We'll do better next time. Yeah, it's an article from the Gospel According to Roy Cohn, right? Deny, deny, deny. And if America were just simply a tabloid world, you know, that would be interesting, and Trump would be an interesting character, and we could follow it from day to day, hour to hour, with him as this unfolding character that he was in the New York Post and the Daily News in the 80s and has now become with NATO

and the nuclear codes. That's not progress, America. That's not progress. Churchill had a great insight. He said, basically, a populace will do what it takes if they're convinced of two things about a leader. One is that they're not lying to us. They're not lying to the people.

And the second is that they themselves are not kidding themselves or not, as Churchill put it, dwelling in a fool's paradise. And that's the key, right? If we can check those two boxes and part of not dwelling in a fool's paradise is understanding that we're all human and we all make mistakes and Lord knows I do and The thing that is absolutely essential is to keep learning from it Acknowledge it learn from it. You know, can you have repentance without confession?

Hard to do that. Yeah Very hard to do that. Also, Mickey, again, I talked about Ronald Reagan saying, I don't know, people like it. We could also take it from the management genius of Paul McCartney. He lands with the Beatles at JFK 1964. He's standing in front of a packed room of very skeptical, very hostile reporters who ask, who start by saying, people say you're no good. What do you say to that?

McCartney said, we're not. Why are you here? He looks around, everybody dies laughing. And from that point on, they own the room. It's okay to say, you're human. It's okay to say, you make mistakes. It's okay to say you're human. It's OK to say you make mistakes. It's OK to say I've learned from my mistakes or I'm still learning from my mistakes.

I'm going to get better. And again, I just go back to Kamala Harris saying, I'm not perfect. That's why I need to reach out, find consensus, find compromise, find a better way forward. Yeah, I think you reach more people. Now I understand the 47 signs at Trump's rallies. It's 47%.

It's the ceiling that they're celebrating because it just doesn't seem like you can add if you're not being human, like you were describing, Joe. John Meacham, thank you so much. Still ahead on Morning Joe will be joined by a senior advisor to the Harris Walls campaign following the vice president's speech at the ellipse last night. Plus, we'll play for you that comment from former Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley criticizing the Trump campaign following the president's MSG rally.

What she's saying about alienating female voters. Morning Joe is back in 90 seconds. I have no idea who he is. Somebody said there was a comedian that joked about Puerto Rico or something. I have no idea who he was. Never saw him, never heard of him, and don't want to hear of him. But I have no idea. They put a comedian in, which everybody does.

You throw comedians in, you don't vet them and go crazy. It's nobody's fault. But somebody said some bad things. Now, what they've done is taken somebody that has nothing to do with the party, has nothing to do with us, said something, and they try and make a big deal. You wish you wasn't there. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's a big deal or not, but I don't want anybody making nasty jokes or stupid jokes.

Probably he shouldn't have been there, yeah. This is not a time to have anyone criticize Puerto Rico or Latinos. This is not a time for them to get overly masculine with this bromance thing that they've got going. 53% of the electorate are women. Women will vote. They care about how they're being talked to and they care about the issues. They need to remember that. This is a time of discipline and this is a time of addition. I think it's harmful. I mean, look, there's no reason to have a comedian at an election campaign event that

had so much energy and so many good issues. Why have a comedian that separates people? This isn't about people being sensitive. I mean, Puerto Ricans, that's personal for them. They take that personally. So they were right to denounce the comedian. They need to go and tell Puerto Ricans how much they do value them. They need to tell Latinos that.

But they also need to look at how they're talking about women. I mean, this bromance and this masculinity stuff, I mean, it borders on edgy to the point that it's going to make women uncomfortable. Well, I can point to another point that Nikki Haley was talking about, where women feel uncomfortable sometimes when Trump talks about them to them, especially after the overturning of Roe, but at this women's town hall that was hosted by Fox. And it was the most luxurious and comfortable environment

for him. He was not going to get a hard question. He was not going to get someone who disagreed with him. He was not going to get a hard question. He was not going to get someone who disagreed with him. He was not going to be held accountable on anything. And he was asked about IVF. And in the course of 30 seconds, well, he starts out by saying, I'm the father of IVF, and as sort of a joke, but everyone was like... And then he starts talking about how a very attractive senator, a very

hot woman called him is what his insinuation was. Katie Britt. Yeah, to teach him about IVF. And now he knows so much about IVF. I mean, I don't know how disconnected you could be from the very voters who are scared to death, people who depend on IVF to be able to have a family and of course the health care they need. Yeah, I think everything that Nikki Haley said in that clip is something that would

be worth the Trump campaign listening to. I mean, the fact that she also said a little bit earlier in the interview that they have not, she has not spoken to Donald Trump since early June, and yet she described herself as being on standby. I mean, this is somebody who took 20% of Republican votes in many of the primary states, even when she was no longer in the race. So there are a chunk of Republican voters

who would do Donald Trump's campaign very well to try to pursue. They haven't even lifted up the phone. And as she says, she's waiting. She is waiting to try and work for the campaign. I thought what she pushed back on there, because you've already heard some Trump people saying, oh, well, can't we even make a joke anymore

about the Madison Square Garden comedian? And the way she pushed back and said, this isn't a joke. People feel very sensitive about this. This matters to them. Imagine if somebody called your state or your hometown or your country and denigrated it in the way it was. And I thought the point she made saying, look, this went too far.

All they needed to do was apologize and then saying women are not liking what they're hearing. They don't like this hyper masculinity. Donald Trump is reposting things on social saying, manhood is under attack. There's no manhood under attack. I mean, that's the kind of thing that's going to an alien. Again, Willie, I have not met one alpha male who

doesn't want to take care of his wife and daughters in every way possible and wants every bit of health care available to them to save their lives. I don't know one. And I would submit the leaders, Republican leaders, who scurry around behind Donald Trump calling themselves alphas. That's a definition of a bait at doing whatever you're told by another guy. Yeah, caddy is so right that Nikki Haley said Donald Trump has not called me since June sort of like throwing up a red flag and saying it's actually political malpractice it's actually insane that's in in races in some of these states that might be decided in 4 digits, you know thousands of votes not to

court. Nikki Haley's voters, but his ego is such that he can't bring himself to do that. And one last thing she said and others have said, well, it was about this one joke from this comedian. We need to condemn that. It wasn't one joke from one comedian. That entire night and the entire thesis of Donald Trump's campaign is divisiveness,

is ugliness, is that kind of rhetoric. So it's being pinned. That was a terrible joke by that one comedian. But come on, it was the entire night. And Joe, the race is close. It was the entire night. I love how they are trying to break it down to one. After you get past the Trump rally talking about Puerto Ricans being garbage, you then

have the comedian finding a black man in the crowd talking about watermelon and watermelons. You have one of Donald Trump's aides that are going to be helping run his administration, channeling Hitler, who said Germany for Germans. And now, of course, Stephen Miller saying America for Americans and now of course Stephen Miller saying America for Americans which of course it's fascinating again contrast that with Ronald Reagan's farewell address and it's just really stark. I did think that Mike that is you listen to what Kamala Harris said last night Meek has been

talking an awful lot about women's health care choices and women who are left to bleed out, women who are left without medical care, women who are in crisis, who are given post-it notes about going to other states and the addresses instead of doctors right there trying to save their lives. And I thought it was wonderful last night, Kamala Harris saying something that would really appeal to libertarians slash conservatives when she said, listen, we all have different faiths and we're all going to look at these issues differently because of our different faiths. Maybe we read the Bible and look at issues

from two different vantage points. But regardless of our faiths, regardless of our backgrounds, no American should want their healthcare choices, their wives' healthcare choices, governed by the government. It should be up to individual people and their beliefs, based on their faith, based on their life, based on their beliefs, based on their experiences. The doctor.

Well, I mean, that gets back to the all-encompassing word freedom that was posted on science throughout the rally last night as Kamala Harris spoke. And yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right, Joe. I mean, the freedom, you know, to make your own choices is under peril. And one of the interesting aspects of it certainly is going to be the weight of this issue in terms of women coming out to vote. I had a friend of mine, a very good friend of mine, who knows Nebraska intimately, telling me the other night that the Democratic district in

Nebraska, the famous just single district in Nebraska, Kamala Harris is 12 points up in the polls, due largely to the influx, the flood of women voters. And the whole aspect of what we've just been talking about here this morning, including Willie's referencing the interview with Sean Hannity last night, it occurred to me maybe more Americans should ask themselves a simple question about Donald Trump. Have you ever heard Donald Trump say the following words? I'm sorry. Never. Nope. All right. heard Donald Trump say the following words, I'm sorry, never. Nope.

All right, coming up, a New York Times Magazine investigation finds Republicans have taken control of election boards in some key battleground states, laying the groundwork to potentially deny the results of the presidential election. The reporter behind that piece, Jim Rutenberg, joins us straight ahead on Morning Joe. I don't think anybody has ever seen anything like what happened the other night at Madison Square Garden.

She's a fake, a fraud, she's a pretender. Her and her pimp handlers will destroy our country. In fact, she is the devil who ever screamed that out. She is the anti-Christ. The love, the love, the love in that room, it was breathtaking. The whole party, a bunch of degenerates,

low lives, Jew haters and low lives. Every one of them. It was like a love fest, an absolute love fest, and it was my honor to be involved. There's a lot going on. Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah. I think it's called Puerto Rico.

Nobody's ever had a crowd like that. And I tell you what, right now now nobody's ever had love like that That was love in the room New York kid this loaded to out. Cranks the ball deep left field. Grew up a Yankee fan hits a grand slam in the World Series dream come true for Anthony

Volpe helps to save the Yankee season that's a go ahead grand slam against the Dodgers last night they were down to one was looking a little bleak and then that to out shot. The seats in left center waking up the Yankees. Freddie Freeman started the game again. With a two run home run. 6 consecutive World Series games with the home run first

player ever to do that unbelievable. After Volpys Grand Slam in the third Austin Wells came out of his slumber sent a solo shot into the second deck in the six and no doubt are there one of five runners driven in by the Yankees in the eighth which included a three run home run from the Gleyber Torres and the first RBI the series. Yes, Aaron judge. it was a single. We'll take it.

Captive scoring with that single to left field. The Yankees complete the first step of what would be an unprecedented comeback and still very much a long shot. Avoiding a sweep with an 11 to four win at home. Get a rematch of Game one starters tonight back in the Bronx in Game five. Yankees eight, Garrett Cole on the hill against the Dodgers Jack Flurry. So had to get one at least. It's a very nice win.

It's a nice win. Listen Garrett Cole. Garrett Cole tonight. Give him a complete game if he wants it. Do not walk out to that mound and take the ball from him. And then it goes back to L.A. and maybe the Dodgers get just don't do it at our place. I guess celebrate. And I guess if you're going to celebrate do it out there. just don't do it at our place celebrate and I guess you're going to celebrate do it out there don't want them dancing on your lawn now.

But how about Volpe him he grew up in. Yeah that's that the Yankees parade as a kid in 2009 hits the Grand Slam come on you can get on board with that now I can actually thanks Mike for a while. To a point. Meanwhile to Yankee fans at the game last night, others Volpe at the parade in 2009. This was insane. Ejected in the first inning should be ejected for life.

After one of them actually pried open Mookie Betts's glove, you'll see it on the replay and removed the ball while the other guy held his arm down. Wait for the replay. Betts initially making a leaping grab at the wall. Great catch by the way. But one fan of the front row grabs this. Look at this. He's prying it open. He's prying it off his hand. Takes the ball. Are you kidding me? Bader immediately ruled out by the umpire. Fan interference of they were s cat or scored out of the stadium they told the SPN they allowed back in for game five tonight so that's their assessment I highly doubt that's true it cannot be true

actually and then look somebody somebody posted are these two SNL characters just doing cartoon versions of New York fans hey this is our area over here take a step back yelling at Mookie Betts as they cried. Open his glove. Not a great look. I'm wrapping sports early today. We're going to take a quick break.

I'm wrapping was good though. OK, that's it. Boy, even I enjoyed that. Cady was engaged. It's not helpful. OK, I have no idea what was going on, but I did.