Morning Joe - Morning Joe 6/11/25

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

Curfew takes effect in downtown Los Angeles amid protests against ICE raids ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This brazen abuse of power by a sitting president inflamed a combustible situation, putting our people, our officers, and even our National Guard at risk. Many of you have seen the video clips of cars burning on cable news. If you incite violence, I want to be clear about this, if you incite violence or destroy our communities, you're going to be held to account. But we do not want our streets militarized by our own armed forces. Not in LA, not in California, not anywhere. Trump is pulling a military dragnet all across Los Angeles, well beyond his stated intent
Starting point is 00:00:37 to just go after violent and serious criminals. His agents are arresting dishwashers, gardeners, day laborers, and seamstresses. That's just weakness, weakness masquerading as strength. Donald Trump's government isn't protecting our communities. They're traumatizing our communities. And that seems to be the entire point. If some of us could be snatched off the streets without a warrant, based only on suspicion or skin color,
Starting point is 00:01:06 then none of us are safe. All right, California Governor Gavin Newsom delivering an address last night responding to President Trump sending military forces into Los Angeles. The governor took a defiant tone calling on Americans to stand up to the president. It came hours after Trump defended his decision to deploy service members while giving a rally-style speech at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. We'll go through all of that and what it means in just a moment. Also ahead, we'll have an update on trade talks between the Trump administration and Chinese officials in London. Plus, we'll bring you the latest from Eastern Europe as Russia continues to escalate its attacks on Ukraine, launching yet another deadly strike
Starting point is 00:01:54 overnight and will be joined by Democratic Congresswoman Mikey Sherrill of New Jersey, who will be the state's Democratic candidate for governor this fall. Good morning and welcome to Morning Joe. It's Wednesday, June 11th, along with Willie and me. We have co-host of our fourth hour, contributing writer at The Atlantic, Jonathan Lemire, U.S. special correspondent for BBC News and the host of The Rest Is Politics podcast, Cady Kay. MSNBC contributor Mike Barnicle is with us and former Republican Congressman Carlos Curbelo of Florida.
Starting point is 00:02:29 He's an MSNBC analyst. And Willie, we begin once again out west where tensions are running high and a couple of narratives are playing out here at the same time. Yeah, and a curfew is now in place in downtown Los Angeles after those clashes between protesters and law enforcement. Mayor Karen Bass ordered the curfew last night saying it will quote stop bad actors who are taking advantage of the president's chaotic escalation. Mayor Bass says she expects the curfew to be in place for several days. There have been hundreds of arrests since Friday. It all comes as the Trump administration has activated 700 Marines and 4,000 members
Starting point is 00:03:08 of the National Guard there in LA. The troops have been helping federal immigration agents carry out raids across the country, a move that is expected to cost about $134 million for 60 days of operations. California has filed a lawsuit seeking to block the Trump administration from activating those troops.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Federal judge is set to hear that case tomorrow. Meanwhile, Governor Newsom slammed President Trump in a formal address last night, as we heard a minute ago, criticizing the president for federalizing the National Guard and deploying Marines to L.A. and accusing him of fanning the flames of the protests. Newsom also described Trump's actions as an assault on democracy while issuing a warning to other states. Donald Trump, without consulting California law enforcement leaders, commandeered 2,000 of our state's National Guard members to deploy on our streets illegally and for no reason.
Starting point is 00:04:06 This brazen abuse of power by a sitting president inflamed a combustible situation, putting our people, our officers, and even our National Guard at risk. That's when the downward spiral began. He doubled down on his dangerous National Guard deployment by fanning the flames even harder. And the president, he did it on purpose. This isn't just about protests here in Los Angeles. When Donald Trump sought blanket authority to commandeer the National Guard, he made that order apply to every state in this nation. This is about all of us. This is about you. California may be first, but it clearly will not end here. Other states are next. Democracy is next. Democracy is
Starting point is 00:04:53 under assault before our eyes. This moment we have feared has arrived. Joining us now from Los Angeles is NBC News correspondent, Camila Bernal. Camila, good morning. We spoke at this time yesterday. Things have calmed a bit. What was the situation overnight, particularly with this curfew of a certain area, relatively small area of Los Angeles put into effect? Hey, Willie, yeah, things calmed
Starting point is 00:05:17 because that curfew is still in effect for another three hours or so here in Los Angeles. But we did see a number of arrests after that curfew went into effect at 8 p.m. local time last night. A huge law enforcement presence, essentially getting everyone off the streets last night. And like you mentioned, Karen Bass really pointing out that LA is about 500 square miles and you're only getting that curfew in about one square mile of this city.
Starting point is 00:05:46 So that should give you some perspective as to how large these protests are in comparison to all of Los Angeles. There's been a large law enforcement presence not just last night during the curfew, but really throughout the entire day in the last couple of days, largely made up of state officials and the local police department here. And they have been pushing protesters out of the way, essentially, when they go into the 101 freeway, for example. And we are getting an updated number of those arrests. They started out Saturday with just 27 arrests, then on Sunday, 40 arrests,
Starting point is 00:06:21 then on Monday, 114. And then yesterday, before that curfew went into effect, they had arrested 197 people. So you're seeing those numbers increasing. We're expecting more because of that curfew, but officials saying you're not going to be able to go on the 101 highway. You're not going to be able to vandalize
Starting point is 00:06:39 and create problem within the city of Los Angeles. Officials saying they're going to continue to look at tape and prosecute people, hold people accountable if they are putting that graffiti all over the streets of LA. That's one of the biggest problems that authorities wanna get a handle of, and it's why in part, why they put this curfew in place.
Starting point is 00:07:01 They're also telling protesters that if you're vandalizing and looting, you're not standing up for migrants. Those were the words of Karen Bass. And then, of course, there's this political fallout and this political fight between Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom against the president and the two leaders here in California saying that the president has escalated this, has put fuel to this fire. And they say there are two simple reasons as to why this has escalated, one being the raids and the immigration agents going into local businesses, going into schools. For example, the governor is saying there were unmarked vehicles at a school and saying
Starting point is 00:07:38 that children are afraid to go to their own graduation. And then the other aspect is, of course, the National Guard, the Marines, people on the ground here, not wanting to see that, and that creating escalations and tensions here in Los Angeles. But I do want to point out that the day yesterday ended very peacefully. There was a vigil taking place with interfaith leaders, and a lot of people just wanting this
Starting point is 00:08:02 to be about the migrants, this to be about the central issue and not about the violence and what you're seeing when things escalate between protesters and police officers, Willie. Camila, depending on where you get your information, you're getting two very different stories of what's happening in the streets of Los Angeles right now. Mayor Bass, Governor Newsom saying they're mostly peaceful. There are some bad actors who, yes, are committing violence and damage, and they should be arrested and prosecuted.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Everyone agrees on that, I think. But then if you watch other channels, it's chaos in the streets. And if you listen to the President of the United States, it's chaos in the streets, him seizing on a couple of clips played on a loop that he's been talking about. So you're there, you're covering these protests, you've got sources on the ground. What is the truth? What do these protests actually look like? Yeah, there is some aspect of chaos, but it's relatively small in comparison to Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:08:56 and in comparison to the protesters. You're seeing so many members of law enforcement almost in comparison to these protesters. So once these ones that want to escalate things and want to create trouble start doing so, that's when you of course have the cameras ready and present and capture a lot of these images that essentially get blown up and get there's this narrative of LA is on fire and it's not that is not the case. It's a very small area. Things were getting a lot more calm and a lot more peaceful yesterday. But what Mayor Bass and Governor Gavin Newsom are saying is
Starting point is 00:09:34 yes things are getting more peaceful but then you start talking again about the National Guard and the Marines and then people get angry and upset. But again usually it is a smaller group of people in comparison to the people that are protesting peacefully and that want to get their message across. Willie. NBC's Camila Bernal reporting for us from Los Angeles again this morning. Camila, thanks so much. Mika?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah. So, Jonathan Lemire, you have a new piece reporting in The Atlantic, and it's a piece you co-wrote. It's entitled, The White House is Delighted with Events in Los Angeles. You write in part this, Indeed, officials at the White House told us they are satisfied with the way the L.A. confrontation has unfolded. They believe that it highlights their focus on immigration and law and order and places Democrats on the wrong side of both.
Starting point is 00:10:25 One widely circulated photo showing a masked protester standing in front of a burning car waving a Mexican flag has been embraced by Trump supporters as a distillation of the conflict, a president unafraid to use force to defend an American city from those he deems foreign invaders. We couldn't have scripted this better, said a senior White House aide, granted anonymity to discuss internal conversations. It's like the 2024 elections never ended. Trump is strong, while Democrats are weak and defending the indefensible.
Starting point is 00:11:02 A lot of concern that Democrats are being played here in a big way, even the media to an extent. What more can you tell us about your reporting, Jonathan? So, Meek, and certainly the White House, as you just read, very pleased with how this is going so far. They think these are some of the president's strongest issues and that he looks like a commander in chief in charge situation. Democrats in 2024 certainly recognized and throughout much of the Biden years that immigration was a vulnerability for them. I will say, though, that Democrats in the last day or two
Starting point is 00:11:34 have been happy to stop talking about immigration as much and more about the president's use of the National Guard. They feel like that's much safer political terrain for them, that a lot of Americans are upset with the idea of the idea of the military, the Marines, even on the streets of an American city. And certainly there are some Republicans, the piece also notes, that we've spoken to who worry the president might be
Starting point is 00:11:56 on the verge of overreaching here, playing too much with the military. You know, he is certainly in 2020 was talked out of deploying the National Guard as much as he would have wanted. They did some, but not as much as he would have liked. He of course, as we have talked about yesterday, even in 2020 wanted asked his military leaders if it would be okay to shoot protesters in the legs. He was told, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:12:20 You can't do that. This time around, I mean, he certainly hasn't invoked the insurrection act yet, but we heard from him again yesterday saying he's thinking about it He seems more willing to take that extra step and certainly he's surrounded by much more about yesmen This time around so yeah, Mika You know what a few white house aides I talked to look that they'd like this show of force They don't want there to be violence They said they recognize if there is a full-fledged clash between the military and protesters, that's not good for
Starting point is 00:12:49 anyone. Obviously, it also would create more scenes of chaos, and they think that would turn off Americans across the country. But, Willie, but right now, they like this idea that the president looks like he's a man of action. They, of course, are very critical of how the California governor and the Los Angeles mayor have handled this. This pushback of course from the other side, but they feel like this plays right into the strengths. Strong leader and gets to talk about immigration. And they have to create this scene of chaos with the help of some images from their friends
Starting point is 00:13:16 in the media to justify what they're doing. So Carlos Cribelo, let's talk about the way that the governor, the mayor of Los Angeles have handled this. They have said again and again over the last several days, if you commit violence, you will be arrested, you will be punished, we will track you down and find you. Yes. That said, they believe the Los Angeles Police Department is more than equipped to handle demonstrations of this size and to make the arrests they've been making without the help
Starting point is 00:13:43 of 4,000 National Guard troops and 700 United States Marines. Yeah Willie I think this is really Gavin Newsom's moment right and I think he has handled it with sobriety I think he's trying to control the narrative it's very difficult when you're competing with some of the images that keep getting replayed on the news and and and a lot of this is newsworthy. When people are assaulting federal government agents, that is a big deal, and that should be covered, and every network has covered it. Now, of course, there are some exaggerations in terms of how widespread this is, how violent
Starting point is 00:14:20 it is, and that's what Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass are having to contend with. But I really do think what Newsom is trying to do here is to win the middle of the country. And I think it makes a lot of sense to de-emphasize the immigration issue. Immigration is still not a good issue for Democrats. The majority of American people don't trust the Democratic Party on the immigration issue. So to shift to the excessive use of force does make a lot of sense to me. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth testified yesterday before the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense. Lawmakers wasted no time pressing the secretary
Starting point is 00:14:59 about the deployment of troops to LA. Secretary Hegseth defended the move and suggested the use of the National Guard for homeland defense would expand under President Trump. The governor of California is unable to execute the laws of the United States. The governor of the California has failed to protect his people along with the mayor of Los Angeles and so President Trump has said he will protect our agents and our Guard and Marines are proud to do it. The law also says, Mr. Secretary, that the orders for these purposes shall be issued through governors of the states.
Starting point is 00:15:34 You and I both know that President Trump has all the authorities necessary, and thankfully he's willing to do it on behalf of the citizens of Los Angeles, on behalf of our ICE agents, and behalf of our country. Secretary Hegseth also responded to reports the National Guard members were not prepared for the activation following a San Francisco Chronicle feature detailing how some members have been left without adequate
Starting point is 00:15:58 sleeping arrangements. There have been photographs that have shown these troops sleeping on the floor and have not been provided fuel, food or water by DOD. How long will this deployment last and why were we unprepared to provide them basic necessities such as food and water? The commanders and troops on the field are very well prepared, sir. They responded incredibly rapidly to a deteriorating situation with equipment and capabilities.
Starting point is 00:16:27 So, you have these comments, Mike Barnicle. President Trump also had an address at Fort Bragg yesterday. What do you make of, so far, these deployments and what they might prognosticate for the future? You know, Mika, this is literally a tale of two cities. There's the tale of one city being told by the administration by sending the National Guard and the United States Marine Corps, combat-ready Marine Corps, onto the streets of an American city.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Then there's the other tale of another city, Los Angeles itself, and when told by the mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, and the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, you realize the facts of the tale of the two cities. And the facts are that Los Angeles is calming down, that there are no riots in the streets, that the activities of the protestors is confined to about four or five square blocks in a city, a tumultuous, large, sprawling city in America. Four or five blocks, that's it. And Catechay, the tale of two cities is being told by the media.
Starting point is 00:17:39 We know this. We're in this business. But the impact of pictures that people see on their TV tell a story that's not really accurate. I mean, the flames, the cars being burned, the police being thrown concrete blocks at the police, that's been taken care of by the Los Angeles Police Department. They have restored order on their streets, and yet it's hard to understand the other tale being told by the administration.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah, I mean, you're right. streets, and yet it's hard to understand the other tale being told by the administration. Yeah, I mean, you're right. I spoke yesterday to a couple of political strategists, one Democrat, one Republican, both from California, and both of them agreed that in the context of California history, these protests have frankly been pretty minor. They're contained to downtown. They haven't really spread. One of them said that in Sacramento, by the end of the day, it was just like a picnic.
Starting point is 00:18:25 So I think there is the reality that the protests aren't particularly big, but there is also the White House's message, as you're suggesting, and as Jonathan was saying earlier, that works very well for the administration. And all of that leaves Democrats in this tricky position. You know, how do they get the message out? Do they just try and hope that if this calms down, it looks like having the military out on the streets is overkill by the administration. But if the protests continue, either in Los Angeles or in other Democratic-run cities
Starting point is 00:18:57 around the country, does the White House be—is the White House able to claim credit for having calmed down a situation, even if that situation was not particularly aggressive in the first place. And I think that's why it's hard for somebody like Gavin Newsom, who has his own political future in the Democratic primaries to think of for the presidential run, to figure out exactly how to handle this and exactly where to stress where they're going to do their messaging. All right. Straight ahead, we're going to get to some must-read opinion pages on this.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Also in our nine o'clock hour of Morning Joe, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass will be our guest. Also ahead, Elon Musk says he now regrets the comments he made about President Trump. We'll dig into that and how the relationship between the two has definitely changed. Plus, we'll get the latest on the war in Ukraine as both sides carry out a prisoner swap and the European Union looks to impose more sanctions on Russia. And a reminder, the Morning Joe podcast available each weekday featuring our full conversations and analysis. You can listen wherever you get your podcasts. You're watching Morning Joe.
Starting point is 00:20:06 We're back in 90 seconds. 22 past the hour time now for a look at some of the stories making headlines this morning. Elon Musk says he now regrets some of the social media messages that he posted during last week's public feud with President Trump. Musk did not specify which ones that he regretted writing, but did acknowledge they, quote, went too far. President Trump has said he has no interest in repairing the relationship with his former adviser, Carlos Cabello.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Some of them were about the big, the president's words, big, beautiful bill. He was extremely critical. Does it have any impact? I don't think so. I think a lot of congressional Republicans have kind of dismissed this as Elon Musk getting emotional, getting a little too heated about his breakup with the White House. And frankly, I don't think anyone at the White House wants him back. Elon Musk, while a very good political ally for this president, did create a lot of chaos in the White House, did overstep
Starting point is 00:21:26 his authority, get into other people's turf. Everyone remembers that cabinet meeting where Marco Rubio and Sean Duffy pushed back in front of everyone and president took their side. So I just think you know even though Elon may want to make peace, everyone's kind of happy to see these two go their separate ways. Yeah. All right. Moving on with the headline, South Korea has stopped broadcasting anti-North Korean propaganda along the border between the two countries. It comes as the new government in Seoul takes concrete steps to ease tensions with its rival. The loudspeakers had been playing South Korean music in an attempt to undercut efforts by North Korea to stamp out the influence of pop culture
Starting point is 00:22:12 and language among the population there. And Michael Bloomberg is endorsing former Governor Andrew Cuomo for mayor of New York City. Bloomberg held the mayor's job for three terms. In a statement, Bloomberg writes, in part, the question before New Yorkers is not who is the perfect choice. No mayor is perfect.
Starting point is 00:22:35 The question is, who is the best choice? To me, that choice is clear, Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo is currently leading the primary field. Election day is Tuesday, June 24th. Willie, that's quite an endorsement. It is. It's an important endorsement. A three-term mayor of New York City, Jonathan Romer. Michael Bloomberg putting an interesting to see his statement in the endorsement. He goes, look, he's not perfect. Sort of acknowledging some of the flaws that a lot of New Yorkers see in the frontrunner in this race.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, it's in some ways captured the mood of the city about this race, where it feels like every candidate, there are some real misgivings about it. And Governor Cuomo, he is running on, as he says, a strong managerial run. But we know his time in office ended with scandal. And of course, he received a lot of criticism for how he handled some of the parts of the COVID pandemic.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And it is a tightening race. We have seen Zoram Mondani really make some inroads here. He seems to be the leader, Mike, of the non-COMO division, although we certainly could hear from we had the city council speaker, Adams, Adrienne Adams here yesterday. She was impressive. It was, Brad Lander and other candidates still very much in the mix. Also because it's rank choice voting. It's hard to know what to make of this.
Starting point is 00:23:47 And we also truthfully haven't had a public poll in a while to really give us a snapshot of the race. Yeah, the rank choice voting is interesting. I haven't seen the ballot. Has anybody seen the ballot? I don't know what the ballot looks like. I don't know how you do rank choice voting. But the Bloomberg endorsement is huge.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Because I think a lot of people in New York, New York City residents, no matter what borough you live in, you realize that the city, it's made a difference when Bloomberg was mayor, just administratively. Things went better in the city when he was mayor, because he's an administrator. He knows how to run things. And if you look around the playgrounds in this city, over in Brooklyn, your neighborhood, the playgrounds that were built, the things that were made accessible to more citizens of this city during the Bloomberg administration, I think that's going to have an impact, a big impact on the race. He's the endorsement
Starting point is 00:24:38 of Andrew Cuomo. Next door in New Jersey, the race for governor is now set. Democratic Congresswoman Mikey Sherrill and Republican Jack Cicciorelli have won their party's primaries in the Garden State. That's according to NBC News projections. Their victories set the stage for what will be one of the most closely watched races of the year. We are in an American crisis, but not in a war for independence, in a fight for our future. The fight for justice, for liberty, for opportunity and for prosperity.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And once again, it is New Jersey's responsibility to lead this great nation. Tonight we took the next step in achieving our mission with a clear and convincing primary victory. Tonight, because of you, we won all 21 New Jersey counties. Tittarelli, who has the support of President Trump, defeated four other Republicans very comfortably in the race. Sheryl beat five Democrats. She also won by double digits.
Starting point is 00:25:40 New Jersey won two states with governor's races this year, with the contest likely to be an early sign of how voters are responding to President Trump's second turn. And we will speak to Congresswoman Sherrill about her primary win when she joins us in our next hour. Carlos, this is a fascinating race because there are, as I said, so few governor's races this year, but also because of what it sets up, which is a Trump-backed Republican in a blue state that got a little less blue in the last presidential election and a moderate Democrat, a very impressive Democrat in Mikey Sherrill with military experience,
Starting point is 00:26:13 experience as a prosecutor and now hoping to be the governor. Yeah that's right Willie I think Democrats in nominating Mikey Sherrill really have set themselves up to avoid the type of surprise loss that almost happened there in the last election after President Biden had won the presidency, right? That was a close call for Democrats. And then President Trump came a lot closer to winning the state than they would have liked last time. So Mikey Sherrill, a centrist candidate, not just in her policies, but also in the way she carries herself and her demeanor, it seems to me that that's the
Starting point is 00:26:51 best type of candidate for Democrats going into this fall. All right. Former Republican Congressman Carlos Curbelo, thank you very much for your analysis and insight this morning. And coming up on Morning Joe, we'll take a closer look at the framework trade deal the US and China have agreed to and the impact it could have on American businesses and consumers. Morning Joe, we'll be right back. 33 past the hour, Ukraine and Russia have carried out a prisoner swap. It involved an unspecified number of sick and wounded troops and happened just hours after Russia targeted Ukrainian cities with missile and drone strikes. Joining us now from Kyiv is NBC News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Richard what more are we learning at this point? Good morning there were more Russian attacks overnight against Ukrainian cities, more civilian casualties according to local officials. There is still no ceasefire here. But after this latest exchange of prisoners, there is renewed hope that there'll be more prisoner swaps. Dozens of Ukrainian prisoners of war were freed in an exchange with Russia. They were greeted to a hero's welcome at a hospital north of Kiev. But they looked like the living dead, gaunt, heads shaven, their bodies broken and some said beaten.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Oleksandr Kulkov told me he was a prisoner for over three years and that the Russians broke his ribs. If nothing was already broken, they would break it, he said. Hundreds of families of missing Ukrainians tried to show the POWs photographs, hoping one of them might have seen their lost father, son or brother. Olga Serhich took had no luck jeez i'm happy for those who have been returned but i'm so sorry my husband is not among them she said but just a few feet away on your chest
Starting point is 00:29:14 couldn't contain her joy a prisoner saw her father days ago said he's doing well this is the first information yes first time you learn that your father is still alive. How are you doing? Oh, very, very, very. Very exciting. I can feel you squeezing my arm. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:35 A Russian official this morning said that Russia has handed over the bodies of fallen Ukrainian soldiers, and Ukraine has confirmed that it received the remains of more than 1,000 of its troops. Richard, meanwhile, President Zelensky, of course, has said that this is just the beginning of what could be a very complicated and sensitive process beyond the prisoner exchange. What are people in Kiev, officials in Kiev telling you about the American position at the moment? Because the understanding in Washington seems to be that President Trump is just really distancing himself from this process.
Starting point is 00:30:13 So Ukrainians haven't washed their hands completely of the American negotiations, the American mediating role. There's frustration here. There's no longer confidence among most Ukrainians among Ukrainian officials, although they don't like to say it publicly in the the American role. Most people here don't believe that President Trump is a fair and balanced player here, that he has Ukraine's interests in mind. But the Ukrainians are still dependent on American support.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And so they are still engaged in this process. And a Russian official just this morning said that a new round of negotiations is expected to take place quite soon in Moscow. So in the background, these negotiations are still ongoing. But, Katya, I must say that the average Ukrainian has very little confidence that President Trump is on this countryside. NBC News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel live this morning from Kyiv.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Richard, thanks so much. United States and Chinese negotiators have agreed on a framework, at least, to get trade negotiations back on track. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick says the deal should result in restrictions on rare earth minerals and magnets being resolved. Both sides will now take their plan to President Trump and President Xi for approval. Meanwhile, a federal appeals court has allowed President Trump's tariffs to remain in effect while it reviews a lower court decision that said the president exceeded his authority in imposing
Starting point is 00:31:42 those tariffs. Let's bring in the anchor of CNBC's worldwide exchange, Frank Holland. Frank, good morning. So let's go back to China and the United States, that framework of a deal. Is there some hope, at least, on Wall Street that this may result in an actual deal more than a framework? You know what? I mean, hope springs eternal, of course, really, as you know, and good morning to you and everybody back there.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But we are seeing a bit of a muted start to lower start on Wall Street. As many investors, they may have already priced in some type of improvement in U.S.-China relations. Of course, we did see what most people would consider progress with the quote unquote handshake related to export controls on U.S. tech to China and rare earth exports to the U.S. from China. We also got some level setting from China. And this is important. Their vice premier and lead negotiator in these talks saying in part, China's not looking to fight, but willing to fight if needed. Also saying that China is sincere in these negotiations, but it also has principles. So I think a lot of people are going to spend some time kind
Starting point is 00:32:36 of reading between the lines of those comments. Of course, as you mentioned, a final deal depends on President Trump and President Xi. So technically there still is some ways to go here. And also, as you mentioned, there's some other developments that can impact the U.S. markets. Reportedly, the U.S. and Mexico, they're getting closer to a deal on tariffs. Europe also telling the U.S. the July 9th deadline to reach some type of trade and tariff deal. In their mind, that's just a best case scenario.
Starting point is 00:33:00 It's just a best case scenario, not necessarily a deadline or a hard date that it has to happen. And then as you also mentioned, the so-called retaliatory tariffs or Liberation Day tariffs, those are still in place. So yesterday I spoke with a former U.S. diplomat, and even they admitted they're having a hard time keeping track of all these different trade and tariff developments. They also said, and this is important, when it comes to China, they expect China to remain strategic with the U.S. when it comes to rare earth exports to really set the tone when it comes to negotiations and conversations going forward either pulling back those exports or allowing them as needed to send a message or
Starting point is 00:33:32 To show that they're you know in favor of some of the moves that the U.S. Is making and just for edification I know you guys have probably talked about it rare earths are used in almost everything from cars to laptops to mobile phones They also help create magnets for cars, which are very much needed. And while they're relatively plentiful around the world, China at this moment manufactures about 90% of them because many other countries, including the U.S., they block production or make the process very difficult due to environmental concerns. Also today, and this seems like a secondhand kind of thing, we have the CPI inflation report. Inflation is forecasted to tick up very slightly.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I spoke with the chief investment officer of a Wall Street firm who says they're watching this to see if this is possibly the start of inflation re-accelerating due to tariffs or if it's just an outlier. So a lot of questions today. You anticipated my next question. Very good, Frank. You know, the general concern about these tariffs for a lot of people, among many, it was that they were going to jack up prices down the road in here in the United States
Starting point is 00:34:28 they were going to cost consumers there were tax on consumers we'll learn more when that report comes out today the consumer price index report a little bit later this morning but so far have we seen the kind of inflation that people were worried about and is that concern still out there that yes eventually downstream that these tariffs could lead to high prices for people of inflation that people were worried about and is that concern still out there that yes, eventually downstream that these tariffs could lead to high prices for people out buying groceries? Well, we've seen it, but not necessarily in the hard data, CPI and PCE, those are really the hard data that we look at, but we've seen it in different surveys where we hear in the
Starting point is 00:34:59 manufacturing sector that prices are going up, input costs are going up, which generally is passed on to consumers. In fact, we had one of the biggest aluminum producers in the world on my show earlier today, and they said the price of aluminum is going up due to these aluminum and steel tariffs, and they're gonna pass it along to customers. They're not looking to absorb any of it
Starting point is 00:35:16 or very little of it. And then we heard from other companies, like a company that a lot of people know, but you don't know by name, Train. They build the American standard air conditioningits and other things like that. They're kind of strategic. They're passing on some of the costs when they can. They're absorbing it when they can.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So if you're going to go buy an air conditioner, maybe it'll be a higher price due to those tariffs. So it just depends on the industry and the company how they're just trying to tackle the situation when it comes to tariffs. But certainly today's CPI report is going to be closely watched to see what areas we're seeing inflation will it be in areas like shelter where you're not necessarily seeing the impact of tariffs will be other areas like hard goods. All right CNBC's Frank Collins. I'm gonna anticipate your other question really quick. Pacers and six.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Pacers and six. Pacers and six? Yeah. Wow. I wouldn't count them out as a Knicks fan I see what they are capable of, especially after they steal a game one where they were trailing by 15 points in the first quarter. A familiar story. So not counting them out. That next game is tonight in Indiana. All right, Frank, thanks so much. Still ahead. We'll go through president Trump's rally style speech yesterday at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. He had those active duty troops booing the media,
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Starting point is 00:38:06 Get started today at custom ink.com Six straight pitches that have missed here for Cameron Judge hits it high and deep and forget about it Aaron judge pounding the gavel For a two-run blast to the top of the first. You know it's a big one when the cameraman cannot locate the ball. That's the 24th home run of the year for Yankee captain Aaron Judge. His longest of the season, 469 feet in the left field of the opening frame in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Setting the tone for the Yankees win on the road against Kansas City. Austin Wells drove in five runs including three on this home run had New York's lead in the fourth. Yankees beat the Royals 10 to 2 in Boston after a rough debut on Monday. Prize Red Sox prospect Roman Anthony feel a little more at home at Fenway last night. The 21 year old outfielder lining a two run double to left in the first inning. That is his first big league hit. First of many, which helped propel the Red Sox to a three one win over the Rays. Anthony, now the youngest player in franchise history to record three or more
Starting point is 00:39:14 RBI's in his first two major league games. We like what we see. Yes. This is the future. For his age, just 21, amazing patience at the plate and amazing knowledge of the strike zone. I mean, some of the pitches he lets go, you say, oh, no, you've got to hit that, but no, he gangs in there. Really, really a mature player. And this team, look, has underachieved to this point in the season.
Starting point is 00:39:42 They're not out of it. There's a long way to go, all that. That said, no matter what happens this year in the season. They're not out of it. There's a long way to go. All that. That said, no matter what happens this year, the fact that there's the building blocks here, three young stud prospects have all made the leap to the majors this year. Anthony Meyer and Campbell. There's a lot of excitement for Red Sox. Even if this year doesn't go the way we want and we can't catch the juggernaut Yankees,
Starting point is 00:40:02 there's hope for the future. Yeah. I mean, he could also sometimes, we've seen it before, the way that guy carries himself. Oh, yes. Where he walks out onto the field. He's a major leaguer. There's a confidence, not arrogance, just a confidence. Exactly right.
Starting point is 00:40:13 A big league ballplayer. A mandatory mini-camps in the NFL are underway. In Pittsburgh yesterday, 41-year-old quarterback Aaron Rodgers kicked off his 21st season at the Steelers practice facility, spoke to reporters about his decision to sign a one year contract with the team. I think it starts with Mike Tomlin and I've been a fan of his for a long time. There's a few iconic franchises in the NFL. I played for one of them for 18 years. This is another one of those. I don't need it. This is another one of those. I don't need it. For my ego, I don't need it to keep playing. A lot of decisions that I've made over my career and life from strictly the ego,
Starting point is 00:40:53 even if they turn out well, are always unfulfilling. But the decisions made from the soul are usually pretty fulfilling. So this was a decision that was best for my soul. And I felt like being here with Coach T and the guys they got here and the opportunity here was the best for me. And I'm excited to be here. And John, huge intrigue as we were just saying, the Steelers begin their season on the road against the Jets. And as Aaron Rodgers was talking about the legendary franchise he played before, he was not referring to the Jets. He was clearly talking about the Packers there.
Starting point is 00:41:24 This is a move that's been met with mixed feelings, shall we say. played before. He was not referring to the Jets. He was clearly talking about the Packers there. This is a move that's been met with mixed feelings, shall we say. Rodgers, a lot of off the field baggage that he's developed in recent years. He's also, his plays really slipped. So we'll see if he's still what he has next year. But if you are the Steelers, you're in win-now mode.
Starting point is 00:41:41 You play in a very tough division. They didn't have any alternatives. It's worth rolling the dice on Aaron Rodgers and his ayahuasca kids. He's 41 years of age but he's not Tom Brady. He's not and I do think that Brady sort of redefine expectations for what older quarterbacks can do but most quarterbacks cannot do. Brady's been the exception usually at 41 these guys are about done.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Brady's the one guy who kept going. As you say, the Steelers didn't really have a quarterback, so take a chance on Aaron Rodgers. Why not? We'll see. The NBA Finals resume tonight in Indianapolis. The Pacers set to host the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game 3. The championship series is tied at one game apiece. Ratings not great for this, but two really good teams. Fun to watch. Halliburton fun to watch. Obviously, SGA is fun to watch too. Stealing that first game in Oklahoma City for the Pacers.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Massive. Now they get a chance to get the upper hand at home. Yeah. The Nation not exactly a buzz over this series, but these are two really good teams. And we should get used to seeing Oklahoma City Thunder on the stage. They have the makings of what could have a real run here. Even dynasty-esque. But these are two really good teams. And we should get used to seeing Oklahoma City Thunder on this stage. They have the makings of what could, of a real run here, even dynasty-esque, only going to get better
Starting point is 00:42:50 in the years ahead. And I think the scene in Indiana tonight is going to be amazing. Basketball, sort of the heartbeat of basketball there in that state. And yeah, I think if we heard Frank say Pacers and 6, I'm going to go the other way. I think the Thunder win it.
Starting point is 00:43:04 But this is going to be a long series, which I didn't expect initially. I thought it was going to be Thunder quick. I now think we're going to get a long one. You know, there are some tremendous athletes on both of these teams. Really extraordinary athletes. If they were playing in my driveway,
Starting point is 00:43:18 I would not be out there watching. Oh, come on. I'd be watching a baseball game. No, no, no. They're great. It's the third week in June. They've got to end these playoffs series He's really hockey is just going to game for I know in their NHL in the NHL have got to end
Starting point is 00:43:31 these seasons earlier they'll some of these long stretches between the game. Yes, I have to know between which I guess about it, which I guess is for TV purposes, but it really kills momentum of the series is hard to get people into it we are like Wednesday. It's a week from Friday. Mike Barnacle will not watch you if you're in his driveway, even if you're the best player in the NBA. Come on down.

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