Morning Joe - Trump praises tariff, mocks affordability (again) in Michigan rally

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

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I've done more for you than your parents, okay? Your parents are good. I'm not going to knock your parents, but I have been better to you than your parents. That I can tell you. And they would agree with me. Wherever they may be, they would agree. Now eggs are much lower than they were when we first started. And that's true with everything else.

And you'll see how true it's going to be after we get rid of the nuclear threat of Iran, which will be very quickly. to do with it. You know, they have this term. So here I am. I'm one day in office and the fake news goes, affordability. Affordability. I said, what's affordability? What's that all about?

Prices are too high. I said, I'm here for less than 24 hours. But we've brought down prices. No, no, you haven't. You've been there for a year and a half, health care. To live in America. More expensive than it's ever been. And that's because of you. That's because of what you and the Republican Party did and your one big lousy bill.

Rent higher than ever, harder to get into homes than ever before. Groceries. Sorry, Mr. President. Groceries are more expensive today than they've been in 50 years. We could go down the list. There is a very large list. But all of that, all of that was just sort of crazy talk. I get to say the funniest part of it was you remember when Republicans and talk radio freaked out when Barack Obama said, you didn't do it all yourself. We were all kind of in this together and we all kind of helped you. People melted down because the president was saying the government was claiming that they had a role in the building of their business. Here, Donald Trump says, I have done more for you than your parents.

First of all, an abject lie, a total complete lie. But can you imagine if Barack Obama had said, I've done more for you than your parents. But he says it, it just rolls by. And these same hypocrites that melted down when Barack Obama said, you didn't build that business all by yourself. We'll sit back and go, yeah, okay, yeah, I guess he's right. He did do more for those people than their parents.

I mean, the stupidity of that, the arrogance of that, it's unprecedented in American politics. Congratulations, that's a new one. There were a lot of unprecedented things here. That was President Trump in Michigan yesterday, where he touted the impact of his tariffs on the auto industry. And once again, mocked the issue of affordability, something that is plaguing most Americans right now. The president is also now pushing the Supreme Court to a. allow him to restrict most mail-in ballots for the midterm elections. It comes amid his continuing pressure campaign on the Senate to pass the so-called Save Act. Which would stop people.

It doesn't save. It's not a voter ID law because 45 states would have driver's licenses that would not suffice. And the president will have separate meetings today at the White House with Ukrainian president Volodomir Zelensky and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who are both in Washington for Senator Lindsey Graham's funeral. Now, the Zelensky meeting is going to be fascinating because the president actually is starting to see the benefits of an alliance with Ukraine because they've created, as David Petraeus has said, and so many others have said, they've created the future of warfare. And I think the president wants in on that because right now,

We are actually paying for that with Iran. And of course, Russia is helping Iran. But the president wouldn't even admit that yesterday. With us, we have the co-host of our 8am hour staff writer at the Atlantic, Jonathan Lemire, political strategist Mark McKinnon, CEO and co-founder of Axis Jim Vandahai, and Politics Bureau Chief and Senior Political columnist at Politico. Jonathan Martin is with us this morning. Great group.

A lot to talk to. We had a ton to talk to. talk to them about. But I just got to start with something that was all over social media and the news yesterday. And before we got all the big events in Washington crossword, I wanted to show everybody a notable clip from one of the Sunday shows, a national co-chair for the Democratic Socialists of America. The DSA was on Fox News Sunday, and here was one of our exchanges with host Shannon Breen. Okay, so we're going to put up on the screen a few of the things that part of your platform. And I want to ask you, just give me sort of a true false on these. Abolish the

Senate. True. Okay. Replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them. Yep. Abolish ICE. Absolutely. Abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally. As a long-term plan, yep. Defund the Pentagon. Absolutely. Abolish prisons, at least in large part. Yeah, again, that is part of a long-term program, yeah. Okay, so no prisons. Government or public ownership of most large corporations. Yeah, absolutely. Democrats, Democrats, Democrats, Democrats. Let those with ears here. My angel said when somebody shows you who they are, believe them the first time, people know themselves much better than you do.

And, well, what's true of people is also true of political parties. And as you just saw, the national co-chair of the DSA went on television and showed us exactly who she is and what her party believes. Abolish the U.S. Senate, the presidency as we know it, the Supreme Court as we know it? True. Abolish ICE? Absolutely. open the borders, defund the Pentagon,

empty the prisons, have the government sees private companies, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. All questions answered with complete conviction. And all those responses, completely disqualifying for a party likes to tell people they're really just about health care and tax reform.

I had no problem with debate. Barack Obama might say that a party that stops debating the big issues with itself stops growing. But there's a difference between pushing your party to be better and asking it to abandon every single thing that makes it worth belonging to in 2026. Remember how the Democrats pushed back against a lawlessness of January 6th and the attempt to overthrow the election, how they rose up and fought back against American. and immigrants being gunned down in American streets, and they did it to defend the basic American values and the Constitution. And as far as defense goes, JFK promised America would pay any price, bear any burden to assure the survival and the success of liberty. LBJ passed the most sweeping civil rights legislation in history. That's a party worth fighting for.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget four years in a row. Nobody's done that in over 100 years. And Barack Obama, he created the Affordable Care Act and expanded health care coverage to record levels. You know, he added 20 million Americans to the insured roles. And Joe Biden fought back against the corrupt anti-democracy forces that still, in fact, Donald Trump's Republican Party. But being that party defends democracy also demands condemning a party that calls to abolish the U.S. Senate,

the House, the presidency, and the Supreme Court. Wants to release murderers and rapists from jail. I mean, one candidate was asked by the New York Times three times. Do you support letting murderers out of jail? She wouldn't even answer. A party that zero's out spending on defending America's borders, defending America overseas, defending America at home, takes police officers out of our children's schools and off our streets and erases America's borders.

Come on. Democrats have always believed you can love your country while pushing it toward being that more perfect union. And you can do that without wanting to burn it to the ground. If Democrats want to make America more affordable, more fair, and more free, and I think they do. They better speak truth to its most extreme base. So they're going to let a small faction of radicals drive more people toward Donald Trump. Because Chuck Schumer, Akeem Jeffries, every other Democrat in Washington, D.C., make no mistake of it. If you don't define your party today, Donald Trump will be sure to define it in November.

And Jim Badai, you've written about this. You talked about how Donald Trump took over the Republican Party in six steps. You're also looking at what the most radical elements of the DSA are doing to the Democratic Party. I talk about that. Yeah, anyone who thinks that Democrats couldn't eventually nominate a socialist candidate is not paying attention to what's happening inside the Democratic Party. You have a base that is really fed up. They feel like the establishment loses elections and doesn't have a spine. They're looking for something new. Then you see what happens with the mayor in New York. You see what happens in House races in New York. You look at what happens in Colorado. You look to my home state of Wisconsin where Francesca Hong, who is a DSA.

endorsed, a DSA believer is now the leading candidate to get the nomination for the Democratic Party in that state. Something is happening. These ideas, at least some of those ideas are starting to resonate with the base. More Democrats have a favorable impression of socialism than capitalism. Now, do I think most Democrats think the ideas that you just outlined and that the head of the DSA outlined are good ideas? I think most people think they're loony, abolishing the police, setting free prisoners, getting rid of the Senate. That's nonsense. Most people would say that's not good policy. But there's a lot of those policies that do resonate, especially when you can camouflage them as affordability or as kind of our rage against the

establishment machine. And this is very real. And you have to look at what happened to Republicans as an example. I thought I was thinking this morning, Joe, when you came into Congress, right, It used to be a very establishment-dominated party. Then you had this Republican rebellion followed by the Tea Party and then followed by Donald Trump. And you basically had an entire takeover of a party that went from establishment to unthinkable, to what you would have said was unthinkable in 94. Most would have said is unthinkable in 2004. The same thing could take place within the Democratic Party because they feel like they keep putting up losers.

They feel like, oh, I go with the establishment and I get Donald Trump twice. why should I keep doing that? I'd much rather go with what makes me feel good and what animates me. And I do think there's a lot of Democrats who feel like the government should have a bigger hand in things. They do rightly feel like affordability is a massive problem for a lot of people. And they feel like the system as it's created right now isn't serving them. So these candidates are speaking to something that is resonating. And if it wasn't resonating, they wouldn't be winning. And if they win, it becomes contagious.

If it becomes contagious, the established might hate these ideas, but they'll do what Republicans did, which is fall silent because they fear they'll get decapitated politically. And that's what we're trying to get at in this column today. I'm not saying we're there. I'm saying there are definitely signs. And anybody who's not paying attention to him is not paying attention to American politics. Coming up where things stand with the president's pick to become the next director of national intelligence.

As the Senate tease up a final vote on Jay Clayton's. confirmation. Plus, we'll go over what to expect today in Washington as President Trump, members of Congress and leaders from around the world gather to pay respect to late Senator Lindsey Graham before he's laid to rest. You're watching Morning Joe. We'll be right back. Coming up, actress Emmy Rossum joins us with a look at her starring role in the new thriller series, Furious. That's straight ahead on Morning Joe. We've had about a week now to reflect on the big takeaways from this year's World Cup. 39 days, 104 matches across 16 North American host cities, and Spain world champion for the second time.

Mbapé winning another golden boot and Messi solidifying his status as one of the greatest players of all time, even though Argentina failed to win back-to-back titles. They lost this one in a shameless manner. The first 48-team World Cup saw Cape Verdi's remarkable run to the round of 32, Holland's seven-gold tournament debut, and an unforgettable 6 to 4 victory for England in the third-place game against France. And while the U.S. Sings national team was eliminated in the round of 16, once again, the true success of the tournament in this country will become most apparent among the next generation of American soccer players. And with us now, the CEO of H.S. e-sports.

and entertainment, Gary Hopkins. He's the author of the new book, 94 to 26, building a soccer nation. So we talked to Roger Bennett and a lot of other people about where American soccer is. Roger and I recall the conversation we had from 2010 about how we need to do a better job organizing from the ground up. And we seem to be stuck here. I'm wondering, do you have confidence? And does your book suggest, that what happened in 2026 will have even more of an impact than what happened when we hosted the World Cup in 1994. The fans in the game always, first of all of the World Cup, the fans and the games always win,

despite all the politics that went on, the fans turned out in great numbers, and the games, some of the games were fantastic. So from that, as for where we are, you have to go, Joe, we're history boss. You have to go back to 94 to understand just how far behind in the world of soccer we were in 94. You know, I went to the first, the USA versus

Trinidad qualify in 1990. There were 50 of us in the crowd in Trinidad for a massive away game. There was no notice anywhere in America that the game was actually on, I think, six or seven hundred thousand people tuned in. We had 44 million tuned in to the, to the Belgium USA game.

So you need to know where we've come from. 94, the progression, since 94 has been immense. There's been trials and tribulations, but it's been immense. Our US team has had its moments. 94 itself was a great moment for it. 2002 in Korea,

great moment quarterfinals. We haven't qualified out of from the round of 16 since then. And that would be deemed to some failure. It's tough to get out of these groups and it's tough to get past the round of 16 when you're playing teams like Holland

and Alphabet Belgium in 14. So I think sort of as a country, the advancement is immeasurable from where we were in 1990, including leagues of major league soccer, women's soccer in terms of the leagues they have. TV viewers have gone from 700,000 in 1990 to 44 million last week. So there's massive progression. If the question is, is our team any better? It's often not linear. You know soccer.

are we progressing at the same rate as some of the smaller countries, other countries in the world? You would argue that probably not. And we haven't, you know, we did tremendously well in the early parts of the game. And then obviously collapsed against Belgium for lots and lots of reasons. But to say the next phase of American soccer, I think is going to be the greatest and the most exponential. Because you're building from a different base. You're building for a base of the MLS stadiums, U.S. stadiums, U.S. cell stadium. So we have got the next 10 years, I think, will be tremendous growth, but we've

come a massive long way from where we were in 94. Yep. This next question is not political. This next question is just analyzing what happened against Belgium. I'm wondering if Donald Trump's interference and going to FIFA to do something they've never done before, and making these young players who were really beloved, not only across this country, but I think a lot of people across the world were cheering for them made them a part of a corrupt FIFA system that football fans have hated for years. And I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons they came out flat in the first half of the game. I mean, a lot of people saying that that was the case and even some players saying it may have

distracted and what do you think? I don't think there's any other explanation. I think they were playing tremendous football. They were lively, they were aggressive, they were front foot. They looked like buoyant and alive and going for it and Pottie got them playing well. And everyone watching them could see a sort of vibrancy about the team and a vibrancy that as a team may have taken them further. The interference from politicians and from FIFA,

was shameful, really. It should not happen in soccer. It doesn't happen in soccer. And I think FIFA have got a real problem. I think what FIFA have done by these actions with Trump, etc., is they've undermined the credibility of the sport. At a level that goes beyond some of the issues they had with financial corruption, this is like a moral corruption. And I think everyone around the world is looking at it and saying this should not have happened. This has made people question the, not the validity of FIFA, but its actions. And the moral issues are much bigger than the financial issues in my mind. Once people lose trust in what you're doing, what you're saying, how you're acting, that is a dangerous path. And I think a lot of people around the world are

looking into FIFA and saying, you know, not do we need them, because, you know, because obviously they control the world's games. But I think people are looking and saying this is not how an international organization should operate. Yeah. Well, the new book, 94 to 26, Building a Soccer Nation, written by Gary Hopkins. Gary, thank you so much. And I certainly hope that people that run the U.S. Soccer Federation will read the book, cover to cover. Same with fans.

It's very important. Thank you so much for being with us. Thank you, Joe. All right. We'll be right back with more. Morning Joe. Who won the 2020 election? You know, I'm not going to do this with you. This is a job interview.

We've established that you have an obligation to be honest and forthright with the committee. Yes, you do have an obligation to be honest and forthright with the committee. Yes. Who won the 2020 election? Like I said, I'm not going to get into that with you. But you do have an obligation to be honest and forthright with the committee. is anything that I just said, not honest or forthright? Yes, you're not being honest or forthright.

Who won the 2020 election? We can keep doing this. Well, we're going to keep doing it because you're not being honest and forthright. I'm not going to engage in the theater. So that was Director of National Intelligence nominee, Jay Clayton, at his confirmation hearing earlier this month, refusing to answer straightforward questions from Democratic Senator John Ossoff about the 2020 election. Clayton's nomination to lead America's intel agencies will face its last test as early as today as the Senate does prepare to hold a final vote.

Clayton is expected to be confirmed along party lines. Also happening on Capitol Hill today, the funeral of the late Senator Lindsey Graham. The service will feature a speech by President Trump and will be attended by several world leaders, including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Ukrainian President Volodemir, Zolensky. Both Netanyahu and Zelensky will meet individually with Trump in the Oval Office this morning, several hours ahead of Graham's funeral service. Let's bring in Republican strategist Ashley Davis and former U.S. Senator, MS. Now political analyst, Claire McCaskill, contributing opinion writer for The New York Times, Molly Jung, Fast, back with us as well. My thanks

to all of you for being here. Ashley, starting with you, just a brief note on Jay Clayton first. the best case that's been made for him, I think, is that he's not Bill Pulte, the interim director who is purging the ranks at DNI and stoking election conspiracy fears. But that's not exactly encouraging here with the clip we just played of Clayton getting simple questions from Senator Ossoff and refusing to say what we all know is true that Joe Biden was the winner of the 2020 election. Yeah. And look, listen, I think that he was definitely trying to not engage in the theater, as he said. I'm going to give him credit for that. However, he is going to be confirmed, and it will be along party lines, which is unfortunate because before the hearing and before he did not answer those questions, it was probably going to be a big bipartisan vote. There were a lot of Democrats that

were supporting him. And so now you're going to have it probably a 51 vote at the most. I mean, yeah, it's not going to probably be more than that, just like last night's vote. And it's going to happen today around 630. So, I mean, I mean, listen, at the end of the day, it's a position that people really did believe that he was going to be the right person, and now it's not going to be, which is unfortunate. But I also think just one second here, Zelensky is also coming in right after him. And, you know, that's going to be a big discussion today on the Russian sanctions vote that they're supposed to vote on. I just want the theater of who won the 2020 election. Is that theatrical?

I mean, I think Joe Biden won the 2020 election. So, I mean, I understand that he didn't want to answer that because he knew it would make Trump mad. But is that theater or is that reality? I mean, I think for him, it's like this is not the position that I am going. It is the reality. Obviously, I mean, I believe that Joe Biden won the 2020 election. Yes, no, I'm not saying that. But I'm just saying it's like that wasn't the questions I think he was expecting.

And yes, it's going to isolate a lot of the Republicans and as well as the president. So he just was like, I'm not going there. have answered. And he did. You're right. He cost Democratic sports. Senator Warner and others had said, hey, we were going to vote for him. And now we won't. Claire, let's turn to the funeral. And Lindsey Graham, you know, first, if you've any thoughts you may have about your former colleague there, you know, who's, of course, going to be remembered today. But there are some who think it, you know, certainly fitting. It is fitting that so many world leaders will be there. Graham, worked tirelessly, agree or disagree with everything he believed, but worked tirelessly on certain issues.

He was a staunch supporter of Ukraine. We know one of Israel as well. It makes sense that Netanyahu and Zelensky would be there. And Zelensky, both men making a case to President Trump while they're in town. Yeah, let me first say how bitterly disappointed I was that Lindsay Graham became such a trumper. And that he was willing to engage in some hyperbole that deep down. I know he did not really believe in. But having said all that, there was one thing that Lindsay Graham was always consistent on,

and that was support of the military and having a very robust, muscular view of what America's foreign policy should be vis-a-vis our allies and vis-a-vis supporting countries around the world that believe in our values. And this is who he was. and the people that benefited from his passion are coming to this funeral today. And let's make no mistake about it. Lindsey Graham, everybody thinks BB Netanyahu

was the key person who pushed Trump to begin the bombing of Iran. I think he probably takes second base to Lindsay Graham, who had been in Trump's ear for a very long time about Iran. And about, now I think Lindsay would have preferred something other than let's see if we can just bomb him and everything will be okay. I think Lindsay would have preferred actually ground troops and actually taking out this regime and actually doing more for the people of Iran who want freedom and want some civil rights. But having said that, for Ukraine and for Israel, he was the best friend they had in Washington. So certainly it's appropriate that they would be at the funeral.

And also, Trump has not exactly had great relations with the GOP Senate. Lindsay Graham kind of acted as that go-between. That helped him along the way. That, of course, now gone as well. We'll have coverage of Senator Graham's funeral this afternoon here on MS. Now we now want to turn, though, to the Trump administration asking the Supreme Court to allow his executive order to take effect that restricts mail-in voting ahead of the midterms. The emergency appeal filed yesterday comes after a lower court's decision to uphold a ruling that blocks Trump's order, which seeks to create a federal list of eligible voters and direct the postal service to deliver ballots only to the voters on that list.

The Trump administration asked the court to move quickly, arguing the new policies are critical and must be in place by the middle of August. Now, earlier this year, Democratic-led states sued to block the executive order, arguing that the president lacks authority to, impose election restrictions because elections are administered by the states and not the federal government. Meanwhile, President Trump continues to put pressure on Senate Majority Leader John Thune over his legislative priorities. On true social yesterday, Trump told Thune to keep the Senate in session until it passes the Save America Act or terminates the filibuster to allow Republicans to, quote, quickly pass everything they ever dreamed of. Thune responded while speaking with reporters yesterday, saying lawmakers have debated the election reform bill for weeks without a winning

result. And if someone can show him a way to get a better outcome, he'd be all for it. Ashley, this seems two thoughts here. First of all, this is not President Trump helping Republicans' re-election campaigns, saddling them with potentially unpopular legislation and also potentially keep them off the campaign trail when they need to be home trying to keep their jobs. But secondly, the theme here for these two stories, this is once again, this administration, seemingly trying to prevent people from voting. Well, first of all, I think Claire would agree with me on this one. I feel like I've been around Washington too long because every August we get the,

we're not going to recess unless we vote on X, Y, and Z, and then we always recess. But no, it's not happening with, we're helping Republicans. The math is not there for Senator Thune. It's not going to be there, even if, you know, there was a bunch of talk this morning about doing it again on some sort of reconciliation, you know, that the House passed. But again, the parliamentarians most likely going to kick that out because it doesn't have to deal with the budget. So, and also personally, I'm not an expert on the Supreme Court, but obviously are they going to do an emergency docket? And I still think even with some of the conservatives that sided with the more left-leaning justices, they're going to agree that this is a state's rights issue.

So I think that this is just the president trying to hold on to this topic. But I don't think it's not going to make a difference. And I think John Thune knows this. Claire, you know all of these players, Sue and the leadership. What do you think he is going through right now? I mean, he's a pretty serious guy. He's not a Mike Johnson and has a lot of senators have a lot of respect for the institution. I'm just curious.

They're cruising into a midterm with Trump's cratering approval. I wonder what you think is going on in the Republicans in the Senate's heads right now. Well, it depends whether you're talking to the Republicans that know that Trump is a problem right now, or if you're talking to some of the newer Republicans that seem to be all in, you know, like Marshall from Kansas and Blackburn and Tuberville and, you know, all the people that are really, really MAGA. The other Republicans know, and have been around long enough to know, that if you do away with the filibuster, then you're going to be on the receiving end.

of a bare majority changing U.S. law. And because, you know, the Senate will go back into Democratic hands. I believe in November, but if not November, it will happen at some point. So once the filibuster is gone, then Republicans will have legislation jammed down their throats. And that's why you have so many Republicans holding the line on the filibuster. And here, here's the deal with Thune. Thune is taking the pulse of his caucus constantly.

He is trying to take care of people that are on the ballot in November, in purple places or blue places like Maine. But he is not doing things that his caucus does not support. There are outliers like Mike Lee, but the majority of their caucus, he is speaking for them. And that is why he has the job and that's why he's going to keep the job. Mm-hmm. Farah McCaskill and Ashley Davis, our thanks to you both.

We really appreciate it. Up next, we're going to take a look at the new Hulu crime thriller, Furious, star Emmy Rossum, standing by, and she'll join us next. You won't want to miss that. Morning Joe, we back in just a minute. Your first case is an FBI agent. And you think you have a serial killer. I do. Oh.

Female killers know their victims. They kill for power, control. Being a victim of violence makes you colder. Not calculating. Don't you think so? I believe there's a deeper motivation here. She wanted me to give you this? Why is she telling us who's next?

I really think the homicides are a payback. I feel like I've met you before. Yeah, that'll work. A look at the new crime thriller Furious. The Hulu series follows a determined FBI agent who uses the secrets from a female serial killer's past to try to track her down. Join us now. The star, an executive producer of this new series, Emmy Rossup. She plays the lead role of FBI agent Alice Black.

And so great to see you again. Congratulations on this. So let's start. Where did this come from? And what drew you to this project so much? Not only you want to start at your producing as well. Yeah. I had really been looking after shameless for a character that would be as deep and nuanced as the one that I'd gotten to play for nine seasons.

So I tasked myself with going to look at old films because I thought that would be a fertile ground. And I stumbled upon this movie Black Widow, starring Deborah Winger and Teresa Russell. And it's this great cat and mouse thriller about this FBI agent hunting this female serial killer that is so surprising and kind of evolves into something more. And I thought it was really an interesting way in and a skeleton for a show. So that's how it was born. So clearly, the depth of character here is a big part of this. So tell us a little bit more about her. Yeah, Alice Black is a new FBI agent.

She was formerly a detective at the NYPD, which is a very illustrious job to work your way up to. And she's had to leave that job because of a very violent and toxic personal relationship. So she's run away from that job and started over fresh at the FBI to stumble upon what she believes is a series of killings that are tied to a single mysterious woman. and we know who this woman is from the first scene. This isn't a who done it. It's a why done it.

And this is my character's quest to figure out who this woman is, why she's doing it, and to catch her. So let's take a look at a scene from this series. In this one, your character thinks she might have a crucial lead in that search for the serial killer. Let's look. I was wondering, whatever it is, put it in an email. Actually, I don't want to put it in an email

because this could be relevant to an ongoing homicide, investigation. Oh, hit the ex-cop. I heard you requested my squad. Why do you want to work down here? Why? Do you want to work in the basement on sex crimes and crimes against children? Do you hate yourself? Don't answer that. I got an idea. Why don't you go to white-collar crimes meet your future husband? I'm not here looking for a husband. I just need information about Adrian Marado. I found your 302 from 2010. You suspected him of trafficking girls. I think it's possible that one of the girls he trafficked might have killed him. Adrian Murado died of an overdose about a year ago, but the details of his death are similar to the recent homicide of Caleb Easton.

Both victims have a girlfriend who no one had met, and both times the girlfriend disappeared. So you think it's the girlfriend, and you think she's a serial killer. Emmy, I'm curious, so you actually, like, found it. the movie and then got Liz, Meriwether, to do that. So talk us through, like, that's real producing. I'd love you to talk us through how that happened because she's amazing, too. Yeah. Liz is an incredible writer.

She's behind shows like The Dropout, the New Girl, Dying for Sex. And she has a way of writing characters that are so specific and so nuanced and so surprising. And she's not afraid to make characters that are messy. And I think that's what gives really good drama. But, you know, having the idea is one thing and obviously finding the person who has the voice to tell the story is the most exciting part, I think, of producing.

And then also getting to cast all these incredible actors in New York, like Quincy Tyler Bernstein, who is so incredible as Nora. The city is such an amazing place to film, and there's such great talent here. That's why I want to ask. Not only is the city an amazing breeding ground for talent, but it's a character.

It's a character in the show. And you shot this here in all five boroughs in your hometown. Yes. And born and bred in New York, I, you know, and we got to have real FBI and real NYPD on set as advisors for us and really go deep in terms of researching the reality of the situation and adding that reality into the writing. So we're not just like, oh, what do detectives do? So it was really, it was really a joy on so many levels. So the first three episodes of Furious are available now to stream on Hulu.

And then each new episode will be out each and every Monday. Actress and executive producer, Emmy Rosson. Congratulations on this. Good to see you. Thank you. You too. Appreciate it. And that does it for us this morning, but fear not. We'll see you again tomorrow. 6 a.m. Eastern for another morning. Joe, money, power, politics with Stephanie Rule is up next on MS now after this short break.