MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Barboza Rallies to Beat Yusuff | Tszyu Dominates | YT Boxing Disappoints | Morning Kombat Ep 502

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

On Episode 502 of Morning Kombat Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell recap an Interesting weekend in boxing. The guys start with UFC Vegas 81. Edson Barboza rallied to beat Sodiq Yusuff, Where does this win rank for him? Who else stood out on this card? Next up the guys discuss DAZN's Misfits card. What was the point of that Dillon Danis fight? What's next for Tommy Fury and KSI? The guys close out the main topics with some real boxing as Tim Tszyu defeated Brian Mendoza. How impressed were the guys by Tim's performance? As always we close out Monday's with Dm's from Donks and HYSTS. (00:12:00) - Barboza vs. Yusuff (00:41:00) - Rest of UFC Vegas 81 (00:58:00) - Paul vs. Danis (01:09:00) - KSI vs. Fury (01:19:00) - Tim Tszyu (01:31:00) - Dm's from Donks (01:43:00) - HYSTS Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. Hey, I'm feeling these Halloween vibes, Brian Campbell. And it's time for Morning Combat. Hello, everyone, on this 16th day of october 2023 it is time as i mentioned aforementioned for morning combat hello everyone my name is luke thomas i

join you from the capital of asados needles right here in washington dc joined by my i'd call him i mean he's my friend i don't know if i'm his friend but he's got many names the american alpha is one thing he calls himself for reasons that make no sense whatsoever but but he is one hell of a co-host right ryan campbell yeah thank you luke thomas like jada pinka smith luke i have just finished my memoir which finally tells the audience that you and i have divorced seven years ago but we have held it together for the children of morning combat and boy are they an aggressive one some guy dm'd me and showed him uh you know pictures of his wife's rack the other day luke i

mean it was a fully i'm not proud of him but you know that's what it gets a little too close sometimes for did you did he was it was it like a rate that tat but instead of rate that tat it was rate that rack right that titas yes luke indeed. Indeed. Well, hang on there. We got a lot of stuff going on. So BC and I did that very tortuous, but kind of funny. Watch along for the dumbass misfits fights. We'll react to some of that. But of course, we got to get to some of the UFC action. What's up, BC?

I'm just putting a thumbs down to influencer boxing in general as a recovering addict. And I'm here to tell you guys, I'm sorry. I was wrong it was it was fucking terrible it was really bad it was really really bad uh we'll get to that plus by the way there was some great boxing on showtime over the weekend also espn had some good boxing uh how about tim zoo tim zoo putting the old beat down on the very game brian mendoza how about the chin well the chin of uh what does Mendoza call himself Luke I forgot his nickname it's uh it's like ferocious or something like that something

along those lines it's like law something anyway the guys the guys oh la bala the bala yeah the bull dude he he had a beard and a half on him in that fight damn yeah he put in he put in a I mean Steve Farhood had it even through six I mean it I mean, it was kind of touch and go there for a while, but in the second half, Tim Zhu just moved downhill on him. So that was a great fight. We'll talk about that as well. Lots to get to, plus DMs, plus BCs, VCs. So many things to get to.

So thumbs up if you're watching on YouTube. Please hit subscribe if you haven't already done so. We would appreciate it. And of course, if you're listening on your favorite podcast platform, do be so kind as to leave us a nice review. bc very quickly i i didn't see you after saturday how was the rest of your weekend did you do anything of note uh no i i have a log in my eye right now luke you know you hate when that happens but no yesterday was a really nice chill day in the suburbs loop another pleasant valley sunday here in status symbol land so i enjoyed it

i'm refreshed i'm ready to bang tooey um and and i'm excited oh look i went to the liver specialist on friday okay okay and what was the overall picture here i am doing incredibly better than i thought i was i'm not in the clear. My numbers are still slightly over in my cholesterol is high, but the road I'm on, um, I'm going to turn this thing around completely. He's very, I got a new guy, a new guy. He's very proud of me, Luke. Shout out to Gabriel. He's very proud of me. So, um, I bombarded him with questions and made it uncomfortable in that tiny room, but I got the answers I needed Luke.ke okay now was he more or less like the washington dv dc servers where they found your shtick altogether not very charming where was

i don't think he thought i was funny or charming but at least he sold for me luke unlike unlike everyone in your city and speaking of buy sell or steal luke uh are you ready to reveal to the people your treacherous weekend all right yeah yeah so i mean i had an overall good weekend we did uh the the watch along which by the way mikey tells us much to you your chagrin and mine people loved so we're gonna have to figure out something there but uh sunday took the tukester to uh chucky cheese out in herndon virginia for a birth a kid's birthday party okay just so you know if you go go to Chuck E. Cheese as a classy American adult, you're an absolute dirt hole, Luke, okay? Yes, yes.

Oh, no denying that whatsoever. By the way, a lot of Commander's gear out there in Herndon, Virginia. Anyway, had a wonderful time. Came back, set up the front yard with all the Halloween decorations. It looks great. Tukey was so happy.

Went to bed, woke up, and my car was stolen. So that was nice. My car was taken, and I don't know what else to say about it. I filed a police report. I obviously, as a friend, feel really bad for you and shared my condolences. It's a piece of metal, Luke, but it sucks. But did you share with the cops when they asked if you had any enemies or any leads? Did you bring up the homeless guy who was just wanting to get a spot for one time? Luke just wants it in his life.

You know what I mean? No, they didn't ask. I mean, listen, D.C. cops have better things to do than figure out who took this douchebag's car. He did ask if my camera caught anyone, and it did not. I have a camera on my front doorbell. So you're saying in your moment of need you also had technical difficulties yes yes it just the camera only works uh it only records the moments when someone is visibly on camera so i guess it must have been

just out of sight or it didn't trigger it so it didn't work uh it sucked man that thing was fully paid off it only had 40 000 miles on it i was like fuck man like did you have to go did you have the club on the wheel that red handle no no no but you know what i was kind of due i have had you know cars tires slashed and all the years i'll say this for dc right now i'll say this people are like oh if crime is like it was when marion berry was mayor no it's not that's not true at all but it's definitely the worst it's been since i was a teenager i can say that very clearly so don't forget what chris rock said about mary and barry smoke crack got his job back yeah also the band mambo sauce we all kept it real and we voted him back um so that's a big thing around here anyway my car got fucking taken so what are you gonna do

cop by the way last thing on this cop was like hey there's a good chance we'll get this back and i want to be like sir i appreciate you wearing this uniform but i don't believe you i just want you to be like do you mean the whole car or certain pieces of it yes yes you mean after all the tires have been taken off of it thanks you can keep it there asshole i'm sure your your catalytic converter is now at a pawn shop so you're gonna be missing that piece look unfortunately uh yeah i look forward to seeing my bumper after being uh taken through a chop shop on the back of someone else's car so that'll be great remember that song look down here at the pawn shop boom no no no it's the only sublime all right off their self title that's right that's right that's right shouts to bradley

noel who is not alive who's also gone like my stolen car. All right. So there you have it. Okay. With that out of the way, BC, we have a lot to get to here today. So without further ado, why don't we get this party started if we can? Oh, by the way, we first have to do this. I want you to flex because I know you got ants in the pants about it. Why don't we give the folks an okay bet update and then we'll get to topic number one.

Yeah, let's see. Let's see the guns. Let's see those. Luke, I don't usually flex on this show much okay there's a good reason for that well luke these are at least 13 inch pythons right at least at least 13 at least uh luke for the first time in the history of okay bet brought to you by fan duel sports. That's right. Just in time for our new partnership, your boy BC is finally in the lead. Get out your jam.

No, no, no. I did not go one and three last week. I went two and two. I went two and two. I got the Emily Ducati fight, and I got the Mason Dixon fight, whatever her name is. Well, since you once again pronounced

a non-Hispanics name wrong, despite being told Luke, I think that should have changed too. Time out, time out, time out. Ducati Yoder went the distance. That's a win. I went two and two. First of all, it's Ducati. Ducati.

Ducati. And it's Yoder, not Toter as that. Okay. I didn't put Toter in there. I didn't make this graphic. All right. You're right. I didn't make this graphic.

You went two and two with a push. Mikey, can you put the graphic back up, please, so I can see? There is your correct. No, that's your same graphic. It's the same one, but. You go two and two with a push. You lost. Sadiq Youssef will break that down in a second.

You got Melissa Diggins. Hey, tough loss for unbeaten Cameron Simon, but it happens in this game. In fairness to me, hold on. In fairness to me, his opponent, Christian Rodriguez, missed weight by four fucking pounds on this one. Oh, yeah, baby. Not the cleanest win, but he got it done. You've got to do your research, Luke.

You can't keep picking them one minute before the show starts. You know what I mean? That's true. That's a fair point. Let's go to the BC board for all you Jam Band fans and look at the balls I had, Luke. That was a good run for you, I admit. I mean, I got lucky there with that danis dq but i did tell you put the money on the d freaking q thank you darren elkins for being gross and slippery there you go

so luke i'm in the lead i'm gonna get otil up in the bullpen hopefully we can get together a nice jam crew and really ruin your life it's gonna be great it's gonna be i want you to know i want you to have all this confidence i want you i want happiness to fill your lungs to fill your liver yes so i can tear your fucking heart out at the last minute and take you to dying fetus at ram's head in baltimore in the new year it's going to happen your fate is sealed just know luke i hopefully i'll put the penis in your happiness and really just just get you dick down to the bottom there so i can i can walk away on top finally thank you very much all right very good very good so bc is that even with the two and two

he's still in the lead so it doesn't matter in that sense the the larger picture is didn't i go three and two no no you went four and one i did not go 1-3. I went 2-2. That's the difference. But even with that, what I'm saying is even with that, your 4-1 was still good enough to put you in the lead. I mean, this has been a long time. This has been a hell of a career turnaround here. Luke, this is like when Anthony Smith lost like 13 times on the regionals

and then went all the way to become a UFC title contender. You know what I'm saying? A little bit. But I'm about to John Jones you. I'm about to John. I'm just going to tear your heart out at the last minute. Well, like Anthony Smith once said, you know, John's really not that good, Luke.

Really not. Really not that good. You know? All right. That's a good bit. That's a good bit. Well done. Well done.

All right. With that in mind, let's get this party started. We start as we customarily do. Topic number one with the Ultimate Fighting Championship. So how about this fucking guy? Edson Barboza, man. What can you say? He turned in one of, I think, one of his most gut-check performances maybe ever in rallying, basically, to beat Sadiq Youssef after a horrible first round where he barely made it out of the frame.

BC, what does this win say for Barboza, and where would you rank it all time among his other wins? Dude, he's 37 years old. He nearly got stopped by a jacked, dangerous, aggressive, young riser and leaned on one thing here. The thing I talked about. The thing I wouldn't stop playing up. the fact that his body is a wonderland that he's got abs for not days but years that he finally quit sugar and put himself literally in the sickest possible shape a 37 year old could be in yet luke i'm here to tell you if he was not in that shape on saturday night a he's probably not

getting out of that first round and b he's certainly not fighting 20 more minutes at an elite level getting the better of another riser in a dangerous division. Yes, all the metrics line up where you could make that hipster case here that for everything he endured and yet still shown out at the end, even though his face bloody and mangled compared to the guy across from him, this was what Edson Barbosa is all about. I thought last fight was right where Billy Q kind of squared up a bit after round found out you still can't mess around with somebody who can strike like this. This was an

entirely different type of victory. He had to lean on every ounce of his experience. He had to be able to put himself right back in track to carry out a game plan, to absorb big shots, and to start turning the thing around. What does this say about him? Look, I know a lot of people don't like that they're automatically on the broadcast just calling him future Hall of Famer and all this stuff. And he's in a gray area, although we've always loved his pedigree and his danger and his willingness to take on big names and go through hell like he did in that one-sided loss to Habib, but just to show us how tough he is. This was where he kind of put everything together. And the fact that it happened at 37 as an underdog in a five-round main event, dude, this guy is who we thought he was, an absolute badass. Only when you see somebody in that kind of shape and you kind of go, man, this might be the best shape of his career. We

all romanticize that thing. This is the best shape of his career we all you know romanticize that thing this is the best shape of his career and that's the reason why he's able to operate at this level this is now two straight wins against two absolute badasses no maybe not elite title level opponents but the kind of guys you have to beat to get back there which begs the spin around question back at you, Luke, are these two wins and the state of his body right now, given his name, pedigree, and the history of everybody he's fought, is he in title contention now in this division? Because that's about as unlikely at 37, moving down a division from where he was maybe arguably the best at over his career.

What he's doing right now is remarkable. It's beyond remarkable. It's just, I I mean I'm trying to think like if you're ranking his all-time wins it's hard to put this win up there because a he got beat up really bad in the first round and then the other four rounds he dropped Yusuf with the spinning heel kick or wheel kick I have to go back and look at it but he dropped him with that kick in the third round which was also pretty remarkable but for the most part Yusufsef and him were kind of trading, but Barboza was getting slightly better at it. The body work of Barboza was just the left hook to the liver,

the switch kick to the body. I mean, my God, dude, he was roasting and absolutely barbecuing the ribs of Sadiq Yousef. But I'm trying to think about his best wins. Man, that win over Benil Dariush is just a really great win. He just flew right up and finished him off with a knee. Even the Billy Quarantillo win is more authoritative. But here's what I do want to say.

You have seen guys put it on Edson Barboza, and it usually takes them a while to kind of finish him off. But once it gets going in a bad direction, especially at age 37, you might have thought, oh man, Sadiq Yusuf is going to pick right up where he left off at the end of round one, starting at the beginning of round two. And he had, of course, Barboza down on his back, and there was lots of ground and pound in the first round.

Here's what I want to say. This kind of win, even for someone in their 20s, would be remarkable, right? To come back like this against a very spirited 30-year-old, really. I mean, Sadiq Yusuf looked to be in fantastic physical condition, all things being what they are. And then to return at age 37 after a clear 10-8 first round. And then I would argue he won all four rounds after that some of them a little bit closer but nevertheless I would argue that he won them I mean this is the kind of performance

that like I don't think you've actually ever seen from Edson Barboza I don't think I've ever seen him rally quite to this extent now maybe I'm missing something in the Shane Burgos fight which he won via KO in the third round there might be some other ones that I'm missing. But BC, usually, an Edson Barboza fight looks one of two ways. Either guys are pressuring him hardcore, backing him up, taking him down, kind of smothering him, wearing on him, or he's the one dealing. I know the second Felder fight didn't quite look like that. There's been some differences.

But they usually go one direction or the other. This one was headed to disaster for him. And if he had lost at age 37 against Adi Gusev, you would have thought, oh yeah, well okay, I mean that makes sense. This is the fight game's natural order taking place. He put a stop to that. What a turnaround for him. What a gut check moment for him.

Poised under fire. This is what it means, folks, when someone says, oh they don't like getting hit guys nobody likes getting hit the question is do you lose your bearing under fire do you lose your ability to say hold on where am i what am i going to do bc even in that 10-8 first round and the first round was 10-8 even in that 10-8 first round he was going for leg locks all the time. He was trying to get up at times. He was absolutely trying to do whatever he could to keep the fight going.

That's what having composure looks like. That's what bearing looks like in the middle of a very difficult contest. And those are things he has learned and or had, I think a combination of both, through years of fighting the very toughest guys that he could. That's experience. I remember particularly the ill feelings I had watching him get the stuffing beat out of him by Habib and still stubbornly hanging on to a decision loss and taking, you know, an unmeasurable punishment and thinking, okay, A, that's probably the last of elite Edson Barbosa. And B, it's sort of like, damn, how much is that going to, you know, going to damage him

moving forward? Yet you wonder, Luke, when we talk about experience, this experience doesn't shine like it did during this fight, unless he's in just, I mean, just world-class, no-stone, unturned shape. But you wonder if the experience of going through beatings like that, the wild-ass fight with Kevin Lee, right? You can name so many win or loss that Barbosa's been in. They've been theatrical, dramatic, and violent. You wonder if that aided in the calmness he showed to flip that switch after how disastrous round one was

and then to open round two in a very technical posture and stance. And Luke, if you remember, the majority of round two was a slower sort of technical round. Sadiq Youssef likely used up a lot of his energy base to try to finish Edson. And I really think it was that right hand late in the round that wobbled Youssef that really turned the fight around for Barbosa and put him on a potential path to victory. But to keep that path going and to play it out, dude, those left hooks to the body just

took all of the life, all of the explosiveness out of Yousef, each and every one. They were big, big shots that you saw Yousef exhaling and really feeling the pain of. Luke, I cannot believe he had the combination of composure and conditioning to turn it around like he did because he didn't turn it around and then just stop the guy, right? It wasn't like, okay, I got to my limit of almost being stopped. Let me just pour it all in. It was poised. That's what experience is about.

And as much as I cr i cringe during the habib fight as well as many other wars he's been in that prepared him to be able to operate at the level he did on saturday so luke i will ask you a second time i know that he was outside the top 10 of the featherweight rankings i know that this division is very loaded i mean it's sneakily among the top three or four best divisions in UFC. Will his name alone and these two wins over big names, is he in the title picture right now? Like would it take maybe a dark horse phone call if somebody got injured?

But like, is he in the title picture to really try to capitalize on what he's been doing lately? I'll say this, given the nature of the win, everything we've said, all the praise we've heaped, the answer is still no, but, but, he is not far, right? Because you look at the top of the division, there's still Max Holloway sitting there.

Obviously, we'll see what happens with Volkanovski this weekend at UFC 294, whether he sticks around and fights Tepuria, blah, blah, blah. We don't really know about that. Brian Ortega, I don't really know what to say about him. Yair's kind of up there, but they've already had a couple of shots. Arnold Allen, still trying to get back his footing after the Max Holloway loss. Teporia sitting at five. Emmitt at six.

I don't think he's got much left in the division. Calvin Cater at seven is an interesting one. Giga Chikadze, who beat him, is at eight. And then you've got Movesar Evloev at nine. Bryce Mitchell at ten. So there's a few guys ahead of him who have won. But Sadiq was sitting at 11. Barboza was at 13 was at 13 this moves him BC here's what I'm going to argue it moves him to a position where he might be able to leapfrog even certain guys he's beaten because I saw some folks

saying what about a Calvin Cater Edson Barboza fight if he were to get the Calvin Cater fight and win that then I think he could be a still a very distant, but a credible potential title challenger. So he was still way too far back for this one win as just monumental as it was for that to count. But BC, I want to make a point. He only switched to featherweight in 2020. He fought Dan Ige and he lost that. Then he had back-to-back wins over Makwan Amirkhani, which doesn't mean much. Shane Burgos, that's a nice win, but Burgos no longer in UFC. He drops two to ranked guys at featherweight. Giga Chikaji finishes him off, and he goes the distance with Bryce Mitchell.

But if you don't remember that fight, Bryce Mitchell whooped him. I mean, Bryce Mitchell was all over him. But then he comes back in his last fight, as you indicated, beating Billy Quarantillo. And then this is the point I wanted to make. I didn't really believe in Barboza's weight class switch. A lot of times we want to see guys go up in weight. Here he was at 155 going back down to 145. And I was like, oh man, he's kind of old.

He's going to drop weight. We just know how this is going to go. Not great. This is his best win since dropping to this weight class by a mile. By a mile, this is his best win. This is the best opponent he's beaten, and he had to earn it the hard way to get it. I really, really,

really hope he gets another big fight from this against somebody who is tough. I'm not asking for him to get an easy one, but a big name on a decent card. Let's see what he can do with this man he earned the opportunity for people to believe in him a little bit more at 145 at age 37 than anything he had done previously to this point since dropping to 145 and i and i gotta say you know we don't

celebrate enough wholesome moments on this show because we not only cover such a bittersweet sport where there's very little of that luke we we also are just, you know, pretentious, bad joke-making pieces of shit. But when he called his wife in at the end of the post-fight interview, and I'm sure you didn't hear it because you tend to turn the volume off, but when he basically were like, when her and I are in lockstep, in tune, together, I can't be beat. I know it sounds a little bit like nobody beats this version of Canelo, but I'm not going to say nobody beats that version of Barbosa because again,

he's not even in the top 10 coming in. Like again, he's lost to guys that are in the top 10. I know, but this version of him, the happy, healthy, and in insane shape,

he's going to, you got to say, Luke, you get, you have to say he's a problem for anybody when he's in this level shape, because we used to always focus on with him, especially after. No,

listen, especially after he cut down in weight, we still always say, okay, man, this feels like a desperation, late career move. Who knows where it's going to go.

And by the way, he's four and three in this weight class. So it hasn't always gone perfect, but we always say, well, he's got the punchers chance, right? He's the kicker's chance he's got this the one strike chance now you add to that one strike chance the sick cardio and the still strong punch resistance at this age again you would never favor him over those guys at the top but i think he's in a

stronger position to to be competitive against any name in this division than he has ever been in, certainly in this division. But I think you have to go back a while even to his lightweight run, Luke. Maybe that three-fight stretch from 16 to 17 where he got three good names in a row, including Darius by knockout that you mentioned. That was probably the last time I felt like he was this overall dangerous. Am I reaching too far? You saw 20 consecutive minutes after he was beaten pillar to post in which for the majority of those 20 minutes, he's getting off first and he's the longstanding,

you know, aggressive fighter who had higher volume and better output. I mean, it's just, I don't know, Luke. Dude, he's a handful for anybody right now. He is because he doesn't go away easy and he's going to be there at the end. That wasn't always the case at certain points in his career. So I'm not so sure. I mean, on the one hand, I want to be very clear. Like all the things we're saying, I don't want to make it sound like I'm trying to take it aback.

Like the resilience he showed is, I mean, dude, there's like a handful of guys in UFC that have resilience like that, much less among the general population. That was amazing what he pulled off, truly amazing. And again, keeping himself alive in the first round, having settling into a rhythm largely in the second round, dropping Yusuf in the third, and then I think taking the last two pretty cleanly, just remarkable. But here's the thing that kind of gets me a little bit, BC. Talk about his punch resistance. Again, keeping himself alive was big, but I don't think his punch resistance is great. It never really was great, even at 155.

Now granted, a hammer like Justin Gaethje, one punching him as he moves into the punch, is not going to be the best evidence of punch resistance. That's going to be a hard punch to resist still i don't think he's got like he's got amazing mental composure i don't know how much his chin has been diminished for things he can't fix if that makes sense and there is a true i know you know that true but sometimes chin is it can be cardio yes it's tied into fatigue yeah it's definitely tied because it because it fatigues you so dramatically in addition to hurting you but and if you know you're in good shape you know you have the like you can rely on the gas tank to fight back you know it's going to be there for you in these difficult stretches like that's a real thing he never panicked and came out throwing

bombs and tired himself out it was almost like okay i need to reset right now let's forget about those those disastrous five minutes boy do you need to be a veteran to do that um you know i don't know luke i don't know how far he can go the window's small he just did recently lose to two big names meaning chikadze and bryce but he does seem to be a different guy the last two fights let's see if he can hold it together man it's not going to be easy it's not going to be easy at that age to stay in that shape injury free and to be able to to endure what he endured on Saturday. But he looks every all the boxes check right now. Sometimes you enter the sometimes you stumble into the peak of your career, right? Sometimes like out of nowhere, he may have stumbled into the peak of what he's got,

what he's got here, Luke. Well, like I said, I certainly hope he gets a big fight with a big name from this he really earned this one the hard way the only thing that i keep coming back to with this fight because i watched it again this morning we always talk about how champions always have a lot of tape on them right like there's there's just you know it's really hard to maintain that spot at the top of the division, especially when you're Anderson Silva, you're an Izzy, you're a GSP, you name it, when there's so much tape, guys have a lot of time to get ready for you and pick up the very small things you do. Barboza is not a champion. He hasn't worn a belt in that weight class or this other one. But the reality is there is a ton of tape on him. He has been in the UFC for a very long time.

And we have seen, like, there's a reason why some of the better guys beat him because they really put enormous pressure on him, right? And when Yusuf was doing that in the first round, which turned out was not sustainable, but nevertheless, what result did it have? He beat the shit out of Edson Barbosa for five minutes, basically. My point being was, I don't know if, and I also want to be clear, part of the reason why Yusuf couldn't go back to them as readily in the second round was because of the body work

that Barboza began to implement. However, for a fighter like this at 37 with as many known deficiencies, as good as he is, all fighters have known deficiencies. Barboza's are very well known. Yusuf didn't really go for any takedowns He didn't even go for I mean he was clinching at times certainly And he was getting some good work in there as well Less so as the fight wore on But certainly in the first and parts of the second round

That was really true My point being is this BC we go back to the Izzy versus Sean Strickland fight And one point I make is that like Yeah it was great that Sean Strickland was able to like Kind of Philly shell it and block all this stuff But when you're leaning heavily on one leg and you're going backwards, you're wide open for the takedown.

He just didn't have that other gear. Izzy didn't have that other gear to go to. Part of what concerned me, if you recall on Friday's episode, was the boxing of Sadiq Youssef is very good. I mean, I don't think anyone could really take anything from him. And his kickboxing is pretty good too, but I didn't see the kickboxing having great effect on that back leg he was targeting. There was really no takedown attempts as actually Edson Barboza, who scored a few takedowns through the course of this fight by mixing it up, especially

late, I think in the fourth and fifth rounds. You didn't see that from Yusuf. There's a certain lack of, he's got all the athleticism and brains that you would need to be a high level fighter, right? He's got all of that. And then some smart guy in shape works hard. Great. But the development of the other pieces of his game that kind of compliment the core part of it, it looks a little, excuse me. It looks a little lopsided to me.

Okay. It looks to me like that core part of his game is great. The other pieces need some work. I think it's a fair comeback argument to lower my knee jerk. Holy shit. This old guy still got it. And I can't stop talking about it mode. When you're basically saying,

look, just a few fights ago, we saw Bryce Mitchell use his never ending gas tank and wrestling to kind of control and tire out. Even though he, maybe he didn't have the same level of fitness that he has now are you basically saying that as good as Barbosa looked in this matchup put him in there with a guy with equal cardio and wrestling and you'll see a different outcome that's basically what you're

saying I think I would say this the difference in the Bryce Mitchell fight was that it was three rounds right this was a five round fight so that makes it different in all kinds of ways my point is is that for a guy like Sadiq Youssef who is as smart as he is as as athletic as he is and I think trains hard there's no there's no doubt in my mind he trains hard and for that core skill set he has that core skill set is excellent but for the guys who really transcend they've got to have a couple of other tools in the bat belt, right? The Batman belt to go to. And it looked to me over the course of time, he used the thing that was good right up front. He didn't compliment it with any, a whole lot of other things that really put him over the top.

But Barboza did. Barboza was able to use circular movement and not get pushed back nearly as often. Or he was the one pushing. He was the one initiating takedowns. He was the one going to the body, right? He was the one that was making adjustments because he does have other parts to complement that kicking slash striking game that he has, at least now, to get just over the hump when he needed to. That was, to me, the difference.

You talk about experience. Experience is part of it, too. How many times has Barboza lost and been like fuck man if this was it would have been a little bit better if that would have gone a little bit better i could have won this one how many times has he gone back to the locker room and like god that one did not should not have gotten away from me it felt to me like uh yusuf hadn't had that experience yet so i'm hoping that this makes him a lot better but some of those other pieces weren't quite there let me me ask you one more thing about Barbosa that I sort of teased on earlier. Here are his elite wins across two divisions, right? A stoppage win over Evan Dunham in 2014 when that

meant more. Bobby Green by decision, Paul Felder by decision, Anthony Pettis and Gilbert Melendez by decision, knockouts of Benil Darius, Dan Hooker, Shane Burgos, Billy Q, and then you add this Yousef decision win with others that were, you know, pretty decent across the board. Never won a championship, though. Is it unfair when the broadcast calls him, you know, surefire future Hall of Famer? I know there's always the caveat that they could just be using the UFC

qualifications and criteria, which are largely non-existent. And under that criteria is Barbosa have the longevity element. Does he have the excitement element? Does he arguably have, you know, one of the top two or three best knockouts in the history of the sport against Terry Adam?

All of those are yes, but Luke Thomas, is that enough under a normal Hall of Fame criteria to make those type of comments on the air? No, not even close. He's not even close to the Hall. I mean, could he get into the UFC Hall of Fame based on the way the UFC does things? He probably will. And of course, I want to be clear, even if you don't merit getting into the UFC Hall of Fame, this doesn't mean you're you could still be a phenomenal fighter with some phenomenal wins like for example like we'll see what happens

with Joaquin Buckley but let's imagine he never gets into the Hall of Fame that win he has that knockout he has over Impa Kasanganai I just don't know if I'll ever see another knockout as good as that one like that's you know you can still do incredible things and Barbosa's heart and everything here was was I just couldn't say enough nice things but like his record is 24 and 11 he's been stopped numerous times across two weight classes he's never even been in a ufc title belt or title bout no he doesn't qualify for the hall of fame under normal conditions whatsoever guys in normal conditions you can win multiple championships and like golden gloves or whatever first all pro, depending on the sport, and still not get in. Like, we're not even bordering on that territory.

I don't even think it's debatable that he doesn't get in. But, you know, we'll see what the UFC does. Shout out to abs and shout out to a strong marriage, Luke. Okay, two things I believe in, only one I employ. Dude, listen, people sleep on it. I'm over a decade into this marriage a strong marriage will carry you far in life let me tell you as the child of a divorced parents and i can tell you a bad marriage will send a lot of shit down the uh the drain pretty quickly bc one more note on

this if i may yeah two main events in a row granted just two we're not talking about 200 or 2000 two main events in a row where we had established're not talking about 200 or 2000 two main events in a row where we had established vets turn back kind of like the young guns coincidence or is there something else brewing here that we should be paying attention to are you trying to make extreme underground clandestine usada references here luke or what what are you trying no i'm asking is there something about the new crop of fighters that they don't quite have in terms of again they won't have the experience that the old guys have i mean bobby green has a lot of experience barboza has a lot of experience is it just that why they won is there something else just coincidence what is it

well i'm going to just make this comparison all as much as we hate comparing pro wrestling to w to uh ufc but wwe and u and UFC are now in the same marriage bed, so maybe we can. When WWE opened up their own performance center, which the UFC largely modeled in their PI, it became a factory for their NXT development system, which is now kind of on equal ground with Raw and SmackDown. But Luke, the only negative of that was they were getting, you know, athletes sometimes with no pro wrestling experience and then training them the WWE way. But it created at times this kind of universal feeling

across the board when new talent were plugged into the main shows where it's like, man, they all kind of wrestled the same way. They all kind of come out and present themselves the same exact way, the WWE way. They all kind of come out and present themselves the same exact way, the WWE way you in it. And we were having this argument, you know, back in 2016 and 17 of,

was it better before this where people were coming through the Indies or through the regional territories with, you know, different experiences, different unique skillsets and bringing them together. I do wonder to some degree if the Dana White Contender Series is creating a similar effect only from the standpoint that a lot of these fighters that normally would be toiling on very good regional territories across the globe, the cage warriors levels, LFAs and all of that, are they getting into the UFC much faster, meaning they are less complete, less battle tested. And it is in some degrees opening up doors for veterans who have been there, done that

and can still hold their game and body and in this case, stamina up to a very high level. Do you put, is there anything to that Luke, the Dana White contender series effect? Whenever we talk about that, we talk about the fighter pay effect, right? And how we have a lot of these watered-down cards just filled with guys that walked right off the Contender Series into the promotion. But they're getting them earlier and earlier in their walk as pros. There could be. I mean, obviously, Sadiq Youssef.

I don't know if Grant Dawson did. He might have come from Contender Series. But Sadiq Youssef against Mike Davis is one of the best fights in Contender Series history, so he came from there. I don't know. I mean, it's just two fights. I don't want to add Daw fights in Contender Series history, so he came from there. I don't know. I mean, it's just two fights. I don't want to add Dawson from Contender Series as well. So there you go, both guys coming from Contender Series.

In both cases, you kind of had guys who were, and this is true of a lot of fighters that work their way up to the ranks before they get to more established places. They were a little lopsided. Grant Dawson, obviously, just sort of that wrestler, you know, leg wrap, Dagestani handcuff style guy. And then Sadiq Yusuf, just sort of that wrestler, you know, leg wrap, Dagestani handcuff style guy, and then Sadiq Yusuf, much more of a boxer slash kickboxer than anything else. And there isn't a lot left to Dawson striking and or Sadiq Yusuf's ground game. I think it might just come down to that, that it's guys who were clearly talented in both cases.

Grant Dawson, very talented. Sadiq Yusuf, very talented. But they haven't been pushed to a point where they really have to get over that hump to build out some of the other parts. And guys like Bobby Green, does he have the wrestling? Like if it was really a wrestling match between Green and Dawson, I'm still going to pick Dawson, right? For those reasons. But, you know, kind of changing stances into Bobby Green very quickly without really setting it up, turning his hips and changing his position, kind of giving away it all. You know, that's a lesson that's going to have to, that's a hard lesson to learn.

That's going to, I think, going to inform his judgment. I'm just saying guys like Bobby Green and Edson Barboza have been through the ringer and they're not the best fighters in this division, but they've been through enough tough fights where they know a lot of the mistakes to avoid either in how to apportion offense, how to start a fight, how to finish, you name it. So they're not the best,

but they don't make the same common mistakes that less experienced opponents make. I wonder if that's really in the end, when I say mistakes, also mistakes through preparation, mistakes through understanding your own limits. They've kind of had all those illusions broken and then tried to rebuild after these two guys dawson and yusuf were still on the other end of having some of their illusions shattered i think true and but also look you know in the bobby green fight that's it's not a lucky punch it's a perfectly precise

punch but it is it is sort of a bad luck ending for dawson in that regard. And then I just don't know how many 37 year olds you're going to find in this shape that's still that are still this hungry. And maybe that helps Luke that, you know, recovery training, healing methods, PED use over time. It's keeping people fresher at these later ages when their experience and knowledge quotient is just at the highest it's ever been you know but i don't know i don't know how you explain that in general i mean experience does matter and if you can linger with incredible experience and still be able to compete physically with these young guns you're going to have an edge potentially all right let's go to topic number two we stay with this card but i'll open it up in a much more easy way.

BC, give me another standout performance from this UFC Vegas card. Main or prelim, who stood out to you and why? Yeah, it's got to be Michelle Pineda in his middleweight debut after winning five straight at welterweight and making himself, really, on the cusp of being a title contender, disastrously misses weight against Wonderboy Thompson, but takes that cue that it is time to move up. So he faces a last minute opponent and Andre Petroski, he was filling in for Mark Andre Berrio.

And Luke, I'm interested like everybody to see punch resistance, how he looks physically. Well, he looked great. And even though ultimately the sample size here was very small to go in there in a bigger division and knock out a game guy. Yeah, not a killer striker, more of a wrestler in Petroski, but he walked right through him and finished him. I think you saw that come out in his celebration, which was not only joyful. It was like a release of emotion. It was like when JJ Aldrich got that submission in Southeast Asia and let out that battle cry where you're like, damn, a few people died for that sound to come out that hard. You know what I mean? Like you've been through the shit. Potato in his own way or Pereira. I mean, look, I'll brutalize Poetan's last name and this guy's got the same last name. So if I'm going to potato one, I got to potato this guy, right? Right, Luke? Two potatoes? Potato one, potato two. Why not?

Yeah. No, seriously. This guy put it back together, proved that he can handle himself in the higher weight class, and knocked the guy the frick out. That's hugely impressive. Yeah. I was actually really impressed by this, too, because, you know,

here's the thing. It's like you look at potato and you're like, okay, well, he's obviously athletic as shit. I mean, there's no denying that. But I was like, how's he going to look at Pineda and you're like okay well he's obviously athletic as shit I mean there's no denying that but I was like how's he gonna look at 185 in particular here's the answer he looked great he looked strong he looked um I don't know comfortable like he didn't look like he had to worry about anything other than you know the guy in front of him but like nothing about his internal state was it was bothering him in that way and then you know just dropping him with that huge punch finishing him off inside the first round dude

what a win for him that was incredible let me jump in and tell you something luke he claimed michelle podeta leading up to this fight that his welterweight cut was so bad that he was often cutting 46 pounds from where he started out at the beginning of training camp to get down to that welterweight limit 100 believe that i'm wondering because look him along with johnny walker both both exciting you know dangerous brazilian strikers we were long wondering like is michelle padeira ever going to take it super serious i wonder if the move up to middleweight forces him to take it super serious because, you know, these are bigger dudes.

You 15 pounds more. You can't just screw around and get caught. There were no antics from him in this one. There was no look at me like he normally does. Like to his look, Luke, he's a fan favorite guy. He loves to get the fans happy and going. And I think that becomes a detriment at times, which I've long said about him and Johnny Walker,

that sometimes they're playing video games when they need to be playing, you know, life or death battle. Dude, he was dialed in for this one. If that's the future at middleweight, then not only is this a better move for his body, because I don't know how you don't die after cutting that much weight, but he seems to have the right attributes, especially if he can activate his wrestling game,

which at times, true or false, at times his wrestling shows you that there's a lot more there because the motor and the physicality, dude, I think he could be something on the ground if he put all his eggs in that basket. Well, see, that's just the other part of it too. It's like, okay, well, obviously the cut to 185

is going to be much healthier for him. That's great. Okay, that's just the other part of it, too. It's like, okay, well, obviously the cut to 185 is going to be much healthier for him. That's great. Okay, that's good. But it's not just about getting the weight class right. It's like, can he fight if he's not fighting like a donk? If he's not doing backflips, if he's not jumping off the cage, if he can actually just like, you know, this is the same thing with Johnny Walker. When Johnny Walker's out there doing the worm and then gyrating and cavorting his hips

through the hills of Scotland, it's like, I don't know how good this is going to be for beating the very best guys. It's just not going to work. And he had that horrible slide. But then he kind of slowly came back to the other end where he is still a little bit himself in terms of the openness of his offense. But he's got much more of the other pieces built in now. And now you're beginning to see, wow, he actually can be a more conventional fighter while still having some of his own flair and personality.

There has been a big question about whether this guy, Michel Pineda, can do it. And I don't know what the answer is, but if this is a leading indicator, the answer is hell yes. Dropped him basically with what, a one-two? He dropped him with a backhand and then sat him down and polished him off. Like that was very conventional but hugely effective that he was able to do it. He didn't do it, BC, doing atomic butt drops and, you know, one-legged whatever jump switch, blah, blah, blah. It was much more meat and potatoes, but it got the job done.

That's what you want to see, you know. For me, this one was easy, BC. My stand-up performer, and I hate to see it for Adrian Yanez, but it just is what it is. The fight game is brutal. How about the leg-kicking dynamism of Jonathan Martinez? Easily his best win to date. Dude, listen to the run this guy's been on.

One of the quietest but best win streaks in the UFC. So he'd been to the UFC back in 2020. Having a couple wins over, remember, Thomas Almeida and Frankie Saenz. Actually, even before that. He's been there for a long time. But more recently, he hasn't lost since the Davey Grant fight. So since 2021, he beat Zviad Lalashvili. The guy actually out of this area from Georgia.

Alejandro Perez. Vince Morales. Cub Swanson. He beat Saeed Nurmagomedov. So he's got some good names. Cub Swanson is certainly the biggest name of them. But Yanez, I think to me, especially coming off that Rob Font loss, he was looking to get back.

He was looking to get right. And Jonathan Martinez just chopped him down like a tree. I got to say, Luke, shout out to Factory X and Mark Montoya because Jonathan's teammate, Chris Gutierrez, in the second fight on the card, the Bantamweight till, a bounce back situation for Gutierrez where we were talking about could he still make a run here? Dude, he absolutely brutalized the legs in the same manner in getting that decision win over Alatang Hailey.

Is that how you pronounce that, Luke? Because I don't know. I really don't. I really don't. I'm not sure. I watched the fight. But look, it was the same thing. In this case, Gutierrez just controlled distance just incredibly.

And it was just a demon with those kicks. Luke, the calf kick phenomenon, I won't say it came and went. It came and it's still here. But there are people that are able to weaponize that more than others and once that first like there were a few kicks that softened yanez up but there was that one specific big kick that you're like oh the entire tenor of the fight now changes after that like yanez was forced into slugger desperation mode from that do you think we've yet to hit the full evolution on what attacking the legs with kicks can look like no not at all not at all I mean the calf kick is a popular choice because you can do

it from much further away so the defense that accompanies that in terms of not being hit is much more usable and friendly so if you're going to go above the knee like where you're reaching now the thigh it puts you in much closer distance but the very best striking coaches all have systems around when you should throw that high if you're going to throw that high and for example like one of the things you saw towards in many places in this fight but like for example think about the ending of this fight what was happening you had yanez circling on the outside and you had martinez taking center one of the big keys for example we had on last week kary and Fitzgibbons, who I spoke to,

he's a big believer that if an opponent is backing up or in a backed-up position or not moving forward, you should be leg-kicking the balls off of them. That's exactly what you saw from Martinez. Having an awareness of position and the relationship to your opponent about when it's a good time to throw a kick, when it's not. You can have a great leg kick, but if you are going to get taken down, if you're going to get off-balanced, if it's going to miss,

or some other kind of haphazard situation is going to develop, it'll be no good. He had none of those problems. He knew exactly when to throw, exactly where to throw it. Now, the question is, did Yanez have enough leg-kicking defense to ward him off? Could he have gone for a takedown and really stuck with that game plan? Could he have done something else? Didn't look like it. So we go back to the same thing about Sadiq Youssef,

where you have all of that core skill that they have is so tremendous. Some of the other pieces may not quite be there, but at the same time, I bet you every one of those leg kicks for martinez was absolute agony and that's going to change your once it lands and you might already be compromised now it's a little too late you know what i mean like now you're already in the quicksand what are you going to do about it so you got to give martinez all the credit tough spot for yanez now two losses in a row for a guy who had a lot of hype i still think he does but i'm just saying like a tough spot everybody targets the legs to some form even

if it's half-hearted calf kicks from distance to just let you know it's there but like the left hook to the body which works in either mma or boxing right where if you just land that perfect left hook to the liver the fight can be over like that, or like we're saying, the fight can be changed, altered dramatically like that. Luke, there are certain spots on the legs we're finding that if you do land just one strike perfectly and it's not being checked, it could have that same effect. There's just no question about it. I mean, I love me Adrian Yanez,

and he tried his best to rally with some big striking, but he was just not the same fighter after that big strike that compromised him. That's right. I mean, I have to give these guys my hats off to their toughness on a regular basis, but for what they have to deal with, like waking up the next morning and trying to get back to life after leg injuries like this. I mean, did you see the—I almost put it in have you seen this shit, but I didn't. In that Chris Gutierrez fight, did you see the close-up on his opponent's lead leg, Luke?

It looked like Fedor's face against Giant Silva, Luke. It was absolutely disgusting. I actually did not see that, no. It's terrible? It is terrible. It is terrible. Luke, I've got a breaking news text related to our OK Bet battle. Can I welcome this in?

This is from dead and company basis oteel burbridge he says um if i beat luke in okay bet luke should either one have to be subjected to oteel's new album which is a cover of grateful dead ballads called lovely view of heaven which is just fantastic or if you refuse to sit and listen to that entire album, the three of us go to a fish show. This is Oteel's request. Luke, if I go the distance with this, okay, bet lead your response. God, what's worse.

I mean, this is really the Sophie's choice of music. You know? Yeah. Okay. It's not really relevant because you're going to dying fetus but um we'll cross that bridge when we get there all right all right oh till you keep texting me you're gonna end up with me at dying fetus if i lose this all right all right that's right that's right oh till you might have to do a number on stage uh playing uh you know uh undulating

carnage or something all right uh bc let's get to the dumb shit that we did over the weekend so if you guys missed it we did a watch along people seem to like it i don't know why wait did we hold on hold on did you have anything else to say about ufc i want to give our p1 fans who live for this shit a real chance look did you like terrence mckinney dude got another ko so terrence so you mentioned chris gutierrez he had a nice win obviously uh both those guys as you mentioned coming from the same camp uh factory x with mark montoya they look great Terrence McKinney taking only 20 seconds you know I was one of these guys BC who was like I don't know if it makes a lot

of sense to take these fights but if he's going to be taking on guys making their UFC debut and he just is going to bum rush them with his like great hand speed and obviously he's been there a million times and they haven't that might be a workable policy it kind of worked out for him do you have anything nice to say about anyone else That might be a workable policy. It kind of worked out for him.

Do you have anything nice to say about anyone else? Because Christian Rodriguez got a big win there against your boy Cam Symes. Yeah, but he did, and he looked great doing it, but missing weight for like, was it the third time or something, however many we were at here? Yeah, you know, we try to overlook that. He didn't miss it by a little bit. He missed it by a lot. I mean, that's not a great look.

I think he probably should be at 145 at this point. But, you know, what did he show in that fight? He looked great. His grappling looked great. His whole game looked great. Like, he definitely had a strong performance. I'll give him that. But Darren Elkins, BC, beating TJ brown um pretty remarkable as well getting that rear

naked choke in the third round so dude he's a threat he's a threat you can't you can't like he's either going to be there at the end as a zombie or if you're you know you're a b-level fighter he could sub you at any point luke i can't believe this guy lingers like this i mean he's got 39 39 the dude i mean obviously he lives for this luke he's in great shape he's got... 39. 39. The dude, I mean, obviously he lives for this, Luke. He's in great shape. He's willing to go through anything to get a chance at getting his hand raised. But he's found whatever formula to be his own version of sort of Jim Miller right now that he'll play the gatekeeper role if he has to, but dude, he'll put you in your place

where you might belong with a big W. So maybe, you know, if he keeps compiling these Ws, he can get that chest tat covered, Luke, you know? Maybe. That certainly might be on the possibility. But you see, I also want to tell folks, first of all, I could not be more excited for UFC 294. Like, I just can't wait for a big fight to come around.

And finally, we have a huge card, so I'm really excited about that. Obviously, we're going to have a lot of coverage. One note on that. We did, in fact, record pre-game preview for that fight but after we recorded it literally all the fights that we talked about fell out uh they all got changed the uh Ikram Alaskerov fight got changed yeah Hamzat's fight got changed and Islam's fight got changed so all those so I did all those delta eights that day for nothing. And when you said you did all the Delta eights,

I mean, you did all the Delta eights that day, but in all seriousness, we are going to take some pieces of that interview. Cause there are some great pieces of wisdom. Like for example, Hamzat has spent a lot of time at extreme couture and Eric Nixick was a witness to all of it,

so we talk about some of that. So we're going to get that portion of the video out, but the original one that we shot is basically no good. And also, Luke, Room Service Diaries, with the aforementioned Eric Nixick, is going live this week on YouTube.com slash Morning Combat. That's right, and that one is good. That one's great.

Wait until he tells you the story about throwing a microwave at a guy. That's a real thing that happened. So we're looking forward to sharing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. KO via heat box. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. All right.

There you go. BC, let's move on to topic number three again. We did the watch along for it. I had fun doing it for the most part. But the fights,c um what do you want to say they were absolute i'm looking for the word dog shit yeah they were really really bad so bc we're going to start with what was actually the main event if you looked at our traffic we had the highest traffic during the dylan dennis logan paul fight so let's start with that one if

you can even call it a fight bc ultimately dennis was disqualified in a bout that could never be described as good. It was a bad fight. So help me understand. What the fuck was the point of that? I feel bad for the guy. I mean, the guy sucks, Luke. We said it beforehand. And how could you defend this performance in the ring?

You can't. He talked us into this experience. He talked you into that experience us doing he talked you into that us doing you were the one that pushed for the live thing so don't even start with me i wanted an opportunity to shit on that for traffic yeah but i did try to tell you guys that there was something here there wasn't anything there but after look as out of control as danis was in the build of this fight he was basically a 9 out of 10 in terms of his marketing

and promotional skills playing a heel role doing disgusting things purposely trying to almost look like he was trying to get the fight cancelled a bunch except for he showed up he stepped through the ring rogues if he had even given himself 35%

of what he's capable of and at least made an argument that it looked like he was trying to win, that even the way that he lost, right, creating this big highlight that aired everywhere, I'm sure SportsCenter, I did a hit on CBS Sports HQ afterwards where I really only talked about this incident, this moment. Even if he had tried 30%, we would go, my answer to your question of what we learned or what is this all about? I'd be like, look, this is a carnival. This is like the most carnival circus of the circus bubble type event you can make. But maybe it was more about the trash talk and the Chris Hansen and the glass and all that. But you know, Dennis did his job and we'll pay to see him again no i can't say

that now because he didn't do his job he didn't show up yeah he took punches behind the high guard and had swelling afterwards but he didn't try to win the fight one time and that's that's unforgivable on the pay-per-view level that's why jermell charlo is getting a assassin his character is getting assassinated right now by every corner of the globe. And I don't necessarily carry that same energy when talking about Jermell. I'm very disappointed in this performance, but people are like, no, this guy showed up to rob and steal. It felt like Dylan Danis showed up to rob and steal. It really did. And I was the guy who was telling you, I wasn't even sure if he was going to fight. I wondered if they had already signed

Mike Perry and everyone knew behind the scenes that Perry was going to fight and Dennis was just going to be the marketer. Here's your, let me collect my fee and here's your handoff. No, he stepped in there, but here's the deal. Logan Paul's not a great boxer. He hasn't fought in two years since that Floyd Mayweather one. He's not at the same level technically as Jake, despite being big and athletic. And I'm sure his power jab on this level is a weapon and can hurt Dennis could have stepped in and traded tried to win the fight brought some real excitement instead fucking mailed it in put a giant stain on not only the fight card but really this this what's left of this bubble that I'm all talking all week is the bubble back is this sustainable oh my god and he laid

such a big egg that it not only became contagious for the main event as well I think it really just if not fully popped the balloon it shot a needle full of bad disease into it Luke because you know he yeah he still gave you that DQ highlight in the end and we all got the craziness we signed up for but when you're not trying to win the fight then it really feels like pro wrestling and I think what we all really wanted was something to feel like pro wrestling but then at the end of the day actually be a fight we didn't get that so what are we going to say Luke this was a waste of our time Logan didn't look good what the hell Logan do is a six round fight he just jabbed from the outside he didn't look horrendous he didn't look i mean he didn't look bad he did what he had to do to win but yeah i don't mean to overly play into the storyline here lucas is going to make me

sound like a mark and i obviously am a mark because i talked everybody into this but if somebody did that to my wife or fiance or girlfriend, and that became the central theme of the card in the fight, wouldn't you want to go out and fight in a way? And I get that Logan's like, I've forgiven him because I don't want to fight emotional. No F that. This ain't Spencer versus Crawford, dude. Okay. This is carnival boxing.

Shouldn't he have gone in there and gone after him more than that one flurry attempt? Like that's all I'm talking about right there. some of this is on logan's shoulders not not that like you could say well he did what he had to do to win okay but him winning like that is also a loss and even though i know danis deserves 90 of the blame hey logan that dude did all that shit against your girl unless you guys really did you know sign up a pro wrestling script behind the scenes. You also got to go in there and make that guy pay and make us feel justified for paying you to watch this fight, even though I will be expensing that through CBS sports. Thank you very much. Um, I feel like I got a little bit scammed by the partners that be in the end, Luke. I mean, as bad as Jake Paul, Tyron Woodley too, was we got the boom at the end. And that may have kept that bubble alive at that point too.

This certainly did not help. This did not help. Not at all. Here's the thing for me because I was like, obviously at 44, you know, I'm not the target audience. So you really have to understand when you're looking at something like this and your job is to talk about it, the limits that you have to perceive what matters. So I decided to read people's reactions to what dennis ultimately did the performance the the the hyping of it the disqualification the whole nine yards and people were i don't know if evenly split but there was definitely

some people who were like oh my god what a waste the point you're making and maybe even most of them were like you see ryan garcia's tweet look did you see ryan garcia's tweet he just shot on his own network did you see that yes i didn't i did not ryan garcia after the fight was basically like to zone like enough of this shit get this off the screen this is this is not good this is a waste of our time you know yeah i mean he's right it is totally terrible although if they made money they'll probably keep going back to it but what i'm trying to point out is i just want to see what people were saying about danis because i don't get the appeal like people like oh he's really funny the guy has no personality like he's literally his voice doesn't change whether he's happy sad agitated

calm it's the same monotone shit every time I don't even understand how someone could say that but all right you're just reading the reaction there were two reactions one everyone was really kind of mad at him. But there was another reaction that I find absolutely baffling. Maybe you can help me understand it, BC. This reaction like, oh, he's a master troll. I loved it. I'm like, here's what I don't get. I do understand, and we said this on Saturday during the broadcast,

did he, whether you like his methods or not, did he add a significant amount of intrigue to the audience in the way in which he conducted himself pre-fight with all the agitation around Logan Paul's girlfriend and everything else yes there's no denying that that added a lot and even all the talking he was doing and the disqualification like that adds to some of that in the end and I'm sure he'll get paid a decent check for it so like I get the troll angle? Here's the part I don't get. When you pay for a service, you're paying for something so that somebody can do something that they're ostensibly good at, especially if you're paying for some kind of a performance act, right?

You're paying for a magician. You're paying for good magic. When you pay for a fight, you're not paying for ultimately a good fight, but you're paying for good magic. When you pay for a fight, you're not paying for ultimately a good fight, but you're paying for good fighters. That's sort of the idea, right? And they're going to work it out. These fights almost never deliver, right? You see highlights of Spence. You see highlights of Crawford. You see highlights of you name it, Tim Zhu, whoever. You don't ever see highlights from YouTube boxing, ever. Those never float around because you never get them. And so here's the part, if I can be specific, that I don't get. I get liking if you're 14 and you're emotionally underdeveloped and you're an incel.

I get liking Dylan Dennis' act. But how do you square the part that the thing you're actually paying for, you're getting fucked in the end. How do you explain I can like all of this, like in the end, the very thing you're paying for, he's scamming you. He's scamming you. How do you not see that and yet celebrate it? What am I not understanding about this?

What you're probably not understanding is that the younger audience that they're targeting and successfully bringing into the boxing space we already know they're not there for the boxing so what did they get in this card they didn't get good boxing but they got what they were there for the larger did that i'm not so sure the shit show so no but like look i get the point of what you're saying d. Dylan Dennis shouldn't be looking at as a hero. What Dylan Dennis succeeded in doing was everything that led up to the fight card. He was almost a 10 out of 10 in promoting that fight. He made a lot of people care about it.

But you also have to deliver on fight night. The reason why I wonder if you were seeing people that didn't care and were just giving him troll credit was because they weren't there for the level of the boxing to begin with. And they may not have even been there for the pro wrestling storyline part of it. Like, I think it's unfathomable after the performance Dylan put in that DAZN did not force him to do a post-fight interview to explain why you didn't engage, why you obviously forced a DQ looking for a way out. And why do you not interview Jake's fiance who's standing right there? I know Ariel

wanted to. Those, those are important. Why? Because they put a capstone on the storyline pro wrestling side of it that I think a lot of these new fans are there. Like I think the boxing crossover circus bubble has already passed by traditional combat there. Like, I think the boxing crossover circus bubble has already passed by traditional combat fans. We've already done the experience. We either got in because we actually kind of wanted to see if Jake's any good, or maybe we cared about some of the rivalries against some of the compatents from MMA.

But we've come and gone. The fan base that are going to consistently buy this and make a promotion like Misfits i have to wonder luke are they not there for like the boxing at all and as long as they get their moment which is the pro wrestling shenanigans after and danis badly whiffing swinging at the cops and you know all that jake fighting to get in the ring argument doesn't make sense bc it doesn't make sense here's why it doesn't make doesn't make sense that those people would come watch a boxing match, Luke? No, they're only watching because they like those trolls.

You can't say what your... It's a troll culture. Hold on. You can't say at the same time, I'm principally injured... Excuse me. I'm principally interested in the shenanigans and John Fury's big old ass and head-butting glass this and throwing microphone that, and then pay to sit and watch boxing. If you were principally interested in those things,

you actually wouldn't pay for the boxing at all because the boxing is inherently bad. And yet, long stretches of this hours and hours long presentation, you have to sit there and endure a bunch of fucking guys who cannot fight each other. That's what I don't get. You can't be like the guy, I'm here for the pro wrestling theatrics.

Well, then just wait for the fucking shit to come on YouTube. Let me counter you right away and say, one, I haven't seen anyone say that that card was worth it, their time in the end, and that they enjoyed it. So I don't know who these people are. I'm saying maybe they're there for the reasons I just explained, but I don't remember what my other point was. That's my main point right there.

It's just a weird dichotomy. I mean, I get the people. I get the part that the fans who go, and by the way, it's a bunch of young kids, to be honest with you. It's really young people. Oh, I know my other point. The undercard had decent moments.

We watched that Salt Poppy slim fight. Well, I mean, decent is a strong word. You get one guy getting dominated, and then he wakes up out of nowhere and punches and knocks the other guy out so maybe there it was maybe these people are talking in totality i got to see my favorite influencers box some of them were good some were bad oh and danis turned out to be the creepy troll we thought he would never deliver dude the big main events they never deliver that's why combat sports has left this scene luke and maybe the only people left are the influencers

who only want to see their favorite influencers do something. They don't care what. They just want to see them do shit. It's just weird. It's just weird. It's like, oh, Dennis is trolling Logan. Dennis is trolling Nina. Dennis is trolling whoever.

No, motherfuckers. He's scamming you. If you pay for it, you're the fucking, you're the guy who got got. You. And the problem was for all the bells and whistles and effort they put into this card, flying out Mike Perry, bringing on Chris Hansen, bringing on Gordon Ryan. Like they did all the pro wrestling bells and whistles. The totality of the two main fights were so bad that every single storyline they tried

to spin off of that, whether it be Jake Paul wanting to fight Tommy Fury again, or Logan Paul wanting to fight KSR, whatever the permutations are, nobody cared because nobody wants to see it again. Now, maybe again, those young fans that aren't in it for the boxing will do it anyway. And obviously you'll give them a chance to run another promotion and create some beef. But this was like the only time ever where it's like, I don't even care what shenanigans you have after the fights. The fights were so bad.

I never want to see any of these people box again. Luke, that main event, like I can't even believe KSI is doing this whole, I got robbed because the Furies are real boxing names. That was the worst boxing match ever, ever. All right. Let's talk about that for just a second. Point number four. ever, ever. All right. Let's talk about that for just a second. Point number four. So BC is 100% right. The KSI and Tommy Fury main event was like,

I honestly, I honestly would have rather have just watched, I don't know, like my dog gets stabbed to death or something. It really was the worst. Wow. Wow. BC, before we get to it, let me show you something. The boys in the back have this. We didn't have it for Have You Seen the Show? we get to it let me show you something the boys in the back have this we didn't have it for have you seen the show i want to show it to you luke nocita in the back can you put up the picture that tommy fury put up being like oh my god i

can't wait listen to what he wrote been dreaming of you and this motherfucker is eating corn onion like not just onions like chunks of onions and mushrooms on what can only be described as the least appetizing pizza dude those are french fries those are french fries no it's their onions their onions if you look you can't quite tell from the way you're looking at but it's onions they're on yeah that's that's disgusting all right i mean what what what did they run out of alpo for you to put on this? This to me is metaphorical of everyone talking about YouTube boxing. Oh, I've been dreaming of you.

And then you get it and it's corn pizza, excuse me. It's corn onions and mushrooms on the worst fucking pizza you've ever seen in your goddamn life. I wouldn't feed this. I wouldn't feed this to a starving person. Oh, they would,

they would, they would reject it i mean most people would just reject this if they have any kind of taste buds i mean this yeah what do you expect luke what do you expect okay i mean the english i mean the english i don't understand the english it england's a wonderful place with wonderful people y'all eat dog food i don't know what else to tell you y'all we have some nice skits and bits we filmed in london about that very topic hopefully they'll come out one day, Luke. All right, but let me ask this question.

The lost MK donkey man. I got more questions for you, Luke Thomas. I mean, it's just sort of like that was the worst main event ever. I wish we had grabbed that video that showed the two guys recreating that fight in their kitchen. It's basically just KSI doing dance moves and Tommy Fury throwing really exaggerated punches every once in a while. I mean, that fight was so bad so our core fan base even if they liked our banter during the live stream and they've

really said hey guys moving forward we'd love if you did Fury and Ghanu we'd love if you brought back the hair cuts that live stream you did for the UFC and Canelo fights that one time they're screaming right now now that you guys just got egg on your face can we be done with influencer boxing for good?

And here's what I'll tell them. I actually was already done, but then Jake Paul versus Nate Diaz was compelling enough that I opened my windows again and said, look, if there's something coming in the distance and it's worth, to me me this had

enough bullshit that it got me back in but is this the end for you and me our p1 day ones that are like i'm only here for luke and i'm only here for mma luke they they they can't go on another day if you link your name to this bullshit i get it okay i listen this is a real simple test, man. This is a real simple test. How many people who potentially watch this show and watch those one Friday cards that take place from Lumpini Stadium in Thailand, for most people, they couldn't name any of those guys on the card.

I mean, some of the real hardcores could, but in general, you know what I'm saying. Like, name five of the best guys who've competed on those cards. Most people even in combat sports fans probably couldn't do it But the action delivers right they get the four ounce Muay Thai And I know there's a whole debate about four ounce Muay Thai, but the action delivers is their action yes guys BC and I call a lot of these prelim cards and a lot of times

It's a guy with a big name versus a guy who has a good opportunity But doesn't have a big name or just just think about what happens. Just think about this. Forget even that. Think about what happens when you have a skilled boxer going up against a guy who's not a skilled boxer. The fight is over fast, right? They're going to carve right through you. I mean, imagine BC, I mean, I'm not even doing a joke. Like I'm being not serious, but just think about this. Imagine someone was like, how long could you last against Artur Beterbiev if he's going full strength? How long could you last?

Does anyone in their fucking mind think they're gonna go six rounds? You're not gonna go six fucking minutes. You might not even go six seconds. He's gonna burn right through you. You don't know what you're doing. He's gonna fucking crush you. These guys can't do that.

These guys can't do that. They don't have the skill to do anything to each other. And so you just wind up watching these fucking guys hug for whatever it was, six fucking rounds. Yeah, but hold on, hold on. They can't do shit. Hold on, though. You're basically, look, that was one of the worst,

influencer or not, that KSI versus Tommy Fury fight, which is a shame because Tommy Fury is at least halfway presenting himself as a real fighter, was some of the worst fight, influencer or not. You're now framing that fight as sort of the normal example, which it isn't, Luke. It's an aberration. No, I'm not here i'm not here to tell you yes it is i'm not here to tell you that the totality of this level of boxing brings out thrillers but i've seen a lot better fights than that whether they were actually

decently skilled like some of the jake ones or whether they were just competitive action sloppy so listen i just asked you a question of how much more of this bullshit are your i'm trying to show you're in our shows mk day one p one's gonna take and you respond by again shitting on the quality of boxing that's the point how much more of it do they have to take they're just they're just i'm just trying to play the answer the question is this bc you're like oh that was aberrational well it was uniquely bad i will grant that i mean that was one of the worst ones i've ever seen but the good ones aren't much better they're not you think about ksi's best knockout to happen with a fucking elbow in the illegal strike that's why the bubble was always

going to burst luke that's why the xfl or all these secondary football leagues it's still shitty secondary football at the end of the day. It is. What does it have going for it? It's got lots of star power. Tommy Fury has star power. KSI, among a certain audience, has star power. Logan Paul, Dylan Dennis.

These guys, they do have star power. And in the end, star power matters for a lot. But the thing that just I keep coming back to is not that it's bad boxing. It's that how many main events can you remember where you watched it or even saw it on youtube or whatever where you were like wow that delivered dude it never fucking happens it never fucking happens okay i'll say this the second logan paul ksi fight which was a their first pro fight it was a split decision it wasn't a masterpiece but what i took away was it was not only competitive but like they actually tried and didn't get crazy sloppy i remember thinking okay this wasn't bad some of the jake

experience wasn't bad that anderson fight wasn't amazing but it was competitive and jake's not fighting i mean jake fought tommy fury and that fight wasn't that great but in the jake fight with uh tyron woodley the second one most of it sucked but he's fighting an age and at that point kind of washed uh real fighter the anderson silva fight he was old but he was a real fighter there's still something a little bit i give jake a little bit more credit than i do for some of these other guys they're actually like at least in terms of what opportunities he's taking you know he's fighting like actual guys who have been through the ringer a little bit you know yeah he's fighting somewhat live bodies but back to the question at hand luke for your deepest

darkest most sincere fans who will be loyal to you through everything and have here's what i'll probably used a lot of their income on thursdays in your direction they're uh what do you say to them because they're basically going could you stop talking in circles about this topic so we can get to the next one what's your answer how much more of this bullshit are you going to make that as long as there's a market for us to do live uh watch alongs to shit on it then i probably will do it but short of that i just can't i i can't understand i get the cult of personality like if you're i'm this guy's famous i like him i'm just going to watch everything that they do. I sort of get that. But at some point, how much can you sit through month after month, year after year of watching guys not do anything when they're promising to do things on that particular day? At some point, it has to dawn on you like, guys, I don't think this bus is coming. I just don't.

I think we're going to. I think we're just stranded at the bus stop. You stranded at the fucking bus stop guys so just what it is you know your most ardent fans will still connor and say luke you did not have to accept those showtime checks you did not have to oh i didn't but uh tuki needs college and braces so there you yeah okay yeah so luke is like you know everything i said put it with a grain of salt tuki needs but again jake paul jake paul you know the tommy fury put it with a grain of salt. Tukey needs new shoes. But again, Jake Paul, you know, the Tommy Fury one, which was not even one we covered, Jake Paul, I give him a little bit more credit for fighting real athletes

with real combat experience. Not a whole lot more, but I do. He actually is risking something a little bit more than those. Dude, how much are you risking if you're Tommy Fury, you're fighting KSI? You're not risking much. No. You're not. But if you're Jake Fury, you're fighting KSI? You're not risking much. No. You're not. But if you're Jake Paul and you're fighting Nate Diaz or Anderson Silva,

you're risking a little bit there. So John Fury did say they were going to disown him if he lost. And I don't know if you saw the Fury family in the corner celebrated like they won the World Series after winning this disgustingly gross fight. So, look, what do we expect from these guys? If we're going to take our legitimate fight liking and analysis and extend it in their direction because the circuits are so big i expect you to try to win the fight whether you're an influencer or not i expect you to try to win the fight thank

you that's it all right with that let's fucking let me get some hand sanitizer and be done with it all right yeah topic number five, BC. Let's talk about some real fighters. Holy shit. This one, it got a little slow at first, but when it picked up, it picked up quick. Tim Zhu ultimately putting a beating on a very, very remarkably tough Brian Mendoza, who very much earned this opportunity traveling down to Australia to try and unseat the WBO champion,

I believe, right, BC? Tim Zhu. So BC, let me ask you this question. How much did this performance convince you of Tim Zhu's potential upside? I think it was a continuation of what this holiday waiting for Jermell Charlo has produced for Tim Zou. Because remember, Tim Zou was initially going to fight Jermell Charlo only coming off of that Terrell Gauthier U.S. debut.

Where he won but got dropped in round one and would later admit, I went into Terminator mode. I was walking into clean punches. I didn't fight my game. Because of Jermell Charlo's sustained hand injury mixed with him getting the phone call for Canelo, what does that produce for Tim Ziu? Three straight tough opponents of varying levels and three opportunities to be in Showtime main events

back at home where what did he do? He dispatched a very tough out in Tony Harrison and got him the hell out of there. He destroyed Carlos Ocampo, who's probably the worst of the three opponents, but Tim Zhu also handled business the quickest. And he went in here against a tough out. Don't forget, Brian Mendoza has a world-class trainer in Ismael Salas, a game planner of game planners.

He came in there with smart defense. He wasn't, look, Brian Mendoza, the negative at times was he doesn't move his head enough. He's too willing to get into a brawl. No, he fought technical here. And this is the third straight fight where Tim Zhu was allowed to continue to flex his reach, show you what he's capable of, add to his name, add to his pocketbook, and look at him now. He's kind of a power player.

He only has one of the four belts, but with Jermel Charlo's stock now going down a little bit coming or a lot, depending on your preference coming off of the Canelo fight, Zoo's the hot name in the division at the moment. He's got a full title, a title defense after winning and defending the interim strap. And he's showing you a varied attack that I think he's finally figured out who he was. And here's what I mean by that.

Tim Zoo on the way up when he's walking through Jeff Horn and the other domestic Australian names that you need to to get to this level, I thought he was more of a counterpuncher. I thought he was more of a middle distance, close enough to tag you, but read the menu and land big. He showed us against Gaucher that he can be a sort of mindless Terminator. Now that he's able to sort of put the full package together, look, he fought on even terms

in a tough technical boxing match with Mendoza for six rounds. And then in that seventh round, when he hurt Mendoza, really hurt him for the first time, he went into seek and destroy mode. And a lot of it was just with the lead right hand, sometimes even telegraphing, but he operates at a close distance. He's got a great chin. He's accurate. He hits hard. There's a lot to like offensively about

what he brings. Is he there to be hit to some degree because he comes at you now, he walks you down, he gets you out of there. But Luke, he has enough technique and certainly enough toughness that he's absolutely in play to potentially become the undisputed champion here. We have to see how it falls out. We have to see how soon Jermell's finally going to get back into the mix. Can they make another undisputed match? But however it goes, Tim Zun needed, in my opinion, these three fights because it wasn't just the uneven Gaucher win. There was a long layoff after that while he was waiting for Jermell. Ultimately, him and his team made the smartest decision they could. Forget Jermel. We're going on our own time schedule. Look at what these three

wins have done for his reputation. And you know what I love even more about Tim Zhu? What he said before this fight. He said, look, this is my last time fighting at home in Australia. This is not going to be as much as I love all hail unbeaten Joe Calzaghe. He didn't finally come to the States till the end of the line when he fought an old Behop and an old Roy. Both wins, very credible still, but older versions of those guys. This is Tim Zuse saying, I've done everything I could at home headlining these domestically. I've gotten the requisite experience I need. It's time for me to fight in Las Vegas every single time. He wants the smoke. He's ready for it. I think right now, if this fight had happened against Jermell before the Canelo fight, I would have really liked Jermell's

chances. And it's not that that fight changed him irreparably. We don't know yet. He didn't take a ton of damage, but he didn't put his best foot forward Jermel Charlo in that fight but this increases my confidence now that Tim Zoo can get it done because look at how much more valuable the last year and a half has been to him compared to what Jermel Charlo has been doing he is he took this kind of shit opportunity getting passed over having to wait and look what he's built a foundation to be great i i echo everything you're saying i would just add i would add the following tim zu what he's getting out of this australia experience with these last three fights as you've indicated the mendoza and harrison and then the gauche fight was in was in the united states right yes yeah that's his only

only u.s appearance and by the way he got knocked down and that one had to get better if you had told me he was going to fight charlo after the gauche fight like let's say they had put it together i'd be like oh yeah charlo's gonna mop the floor with him and then even after the harrison one i was like okay i want to see it but you know jermel's a different level and then after this one i do think that because charlo's stock has been affected by the canelo loss people might be somewhat overstating oh my my God, Tim Zoo's going to go beat his ass. I think that Charlo's left hook against another 154 pounder, especially a guy who marches into him, that's always going to be a get out of jail free card for Jermell Charlo.

However, there has never been a time that I have covered Jermell Charlo since he was undisputed that I thought there was anyone at 154 who had anything for him, and now I know for a fact there is. Tim Zhu is that guy. Tim Zhu is going to give Jermel Charlo a lot of problems. Now, I want to be clear one more time. I know everyone's down on Charlo because he didn't really go for the gusto against Canelo. He is still a very viable threat. Obviously, he has the other three titles at 154, as BC indicated. But BC quietly, again, stateside anyway,

quietly for stateside audiences, Tim Zhu has worked on his craft, worked on his craft. He's gone 12 rounds now, multiple times, right? So he's been the distance. He has perfected the parts of his game. He has much more, I i think sharpened up his defense he's a lot harder to hit and dude when he corners guys into ring posts or just along the ropes themselves he has a piston like right straight you saw what the uppercut did he is a

dynamic terminating force make no mistake about it jermell charlo has his hands full with this let me say this about the son of the hall of famer it's going to be hard for any son who's going to be constantly compared to his dad and asked about his dad and that has been a lot of tim's career but i think luke there's enough separation between them emotionally and what i mean is they're not at odds like a falling out but they're also not at this point so close that like costa is not his trainer costa does not go to his fights regularly he's been to a few of them it's in fact tim zoo's uncle uh that it that it who's by marriage his uncle that is his trainer and his younger brother fights his course as well but i think that's

helped him to some degree get out of the shadow as his dad and i love it when tim zoo looks in the microphone and says after a fight and says what's my motherfucking name which is his way of saying like stop calling me coast's son i'm my own guy and he is but even though luke for as hard as it is to live up to the expectations of his all-world father uh he's not the boxer his dad is and he's certainly not the one punch knockout threat that his dad is, but he's, uh, he's different. And in some ways he's more menacing offensively because once he starts going downhill on you, he is accurate enough. Like you're saying, when he builds himself into advantageous positions, particularly

when cutting off the ring and quartering his opponents that he's so accurate, man, that it is hard to, to not get lit up by his power punches inside. And he's got a chin. He's got a lot going for him. He's never going to be as skilled as his dad. His dad's special. Dad's super special.

But, Tim, I think you've got to give him credit. He's carved out his own identity, and I think he has enough of the old man's game across the board that everything you just said about what how we should consider his chances against charlo have to be true they have increased and they have increased greatly bc was it my imagination or was zoo's corner speaking in russian at times yes he is his his dad's from russia but i know but i thought he got mostly english language trainers or whatever i didn't yeah but that's his uncle his trainer who i think is his his dad's sister's husband so it's his aunt's sisters so that would mean that

yeah okay most likely from a russian background even though he was raised in australia yeah yeah fair enough anyway first six rounds uh the legend steve farhood had it even from 7 to 12 let me tell you it was all downhill Tim Zhu great performance by him by the way the crowd was so on it like anything he landed they went crazy for so he's a big star in Australia I know he wants to come stateside but those that's a real audience he's putting together there in Australia has one quirk they do in the crowd that I love when big moments are about to happen Luke those flames shoot up from the audience but they're not like deep they're like kind of near ringside and like you know like let's say right before they ring the bell to start the opening announcements everybody's hyped up

dude flames will just start shooting up left and right and you're like yeah yeah let's go yeah by the way um over on espn uh janabek unified the titles with six rounds oh dude dude he looked great now look he was he was fighting Guala Terry, who is just not a household name in his own household, as Bert Sugar used to say. But, dude, how good did Janabek look? He's a destroyer. I love this guy.

The shitty division? He's a destroyer. By the way, last thing on this before we turn the page, what did you make of Keyshawn Davis? Didn't look that strong. Not a great performance. Okay. He won, but.

I think he i think he he unfortunately is it is misbenefited a word what's the opposite of benefited um suffered i'm not sure i think he suffered look i love i love the people on the espn broadcast in this case it was bernardo osuna tim bradley mark creagle i think bradley and osuna when he especially when he fills in for Joe Tessitore, have built really good chemistry in the post-Andre Ward era. But if there's a criticism of the ESPN top-ranked broadcast in general, it's that they play up the accolades of the A-side sometimes to an ad nauseum level,

whether it's Loma or in the past it was Crawford or whatever. Like whoever's fighting that week is the pound for pound king, right? They would just switch like crazy. They were going Tim Bradley above and beyond. Speaking about Keyshawn's pedigree, which is obviously like through the fricking roof, but the reality was Nahir Albright, who is a showbox veteran and who is Philly tough,

was the right opponent at the right time. The top rank matchmakers never get it wrong, where it was the type of challenge that made him look not that same pedigree at certain times, which is what you would want at this level. So I had no issue with it. I didn't come out saying, oh, Keyshawn's not the guy we thought he was. If anything, I just sometimes say, hey, ESPN, like pump the brakes a little bit on constantly reminding us that Tyson Fury

is the millennial champ. We know how great Tyson Fury is the millennial champ we know how great Tyson Fury is okay like it's like stop stop saying it please stop all right let let the fight show us how great he is okay with that in mind those are our top five topics let's turn the page and head to the next segment which is where you guys get to ask us questions it's time for DMs from dogs you see I'm not actually vaping, but I am vaping today because my car got stolen

and so I'm a little bit stressed out by it. So I just want you to know. It's the first time I've vaped in like months, but I am vaping. All right. It's really bad for you, Luke, and it could kill you. I know.

I know. All right. Number one, walking on Arius, I guess. Could a Gordon Ryan versus Dylan Danis second fight be made? I mean, they've competed

more than once. Grappling match, jiu-jitsu, boxing. Well, let me just explain something to folks. Thumb wrestling, dude. Yeah, I don't have much interest in any of those. Literally, I have no interest in any of them. Guys, I cannot explain to you how much better Gordon Ryan is. There was a time

circa 2017 where they were a little bit closer together even then gordon ryan was better since then the gap has only widened he has nothing for gordon ryan he would get submitted very quickly i don't think that's closing point on danis here really closing point i don't think he could get another big celebrity boxing match unless he commits to just being the buffoon of all buffoons even more than a buffoon than he was, which he was successful in, but he was a buffoon. Does this mean he has to fight in MMA next?

Is that the only door that's left open for him? What if he fought a skilled influencer? Are there skilled influencers in grappling? No, there's not. No, no, no. So here's the weird part right i remember maybe like at this point maybe nine months ago certainly at some point in 2023 i texted some of the folks at bellator and i was like is dylan dennis still under contract they

were like yeah he's still under contract and then he did the interview with ariel he was like yeah i could go to ufc i don't know what his contractual state is I can just tell you if he went to UFC it would go real bad for him I don't think he's in any way ready for it I do think if he stayed with Bellator and again what the fuck's gonna happen with that I don't know but I'm assuming even with a PFL takeover if that's what happens they can still provide enough latitude on a prelim or like the very beginning of a main card yes get him an opponent let's say in mma i do think that could restore some confidence because it's like oh right this is what he can actually do well at again i don't think he's not gordon ryan good on jujitsu but

he is very good and so that would be helpful but i don't know what the contractual state of things are with him so it's a little weird i think if the best thing he could do would be to sign with pfl and try to use the the cloud of his name to get a pay-per-view fight against somebody who's known for something but that he has a great chance of beating and that could be a transitioning boxer and i don't know what it could be luke but i think he's got one shot to do it again if not get off my tv and and unless you're selling vagine cakes get off my tv and i don't want to see you again all right i mean the fact that his double leg and his guillotine people like oh he had

boxing gloves on you know of course he couldn't get it yeah then don't go for it yeah right like if you're gonna troll and go for it you got to be good at that yeah all right or at least entertain us like the spotlight was on abdu rozic that whole night and even when they turned the light off the dude's still dancing luke is still getting after it hey danish get after it bro he got so much shine on that card i mean he really is the biggest winner how did they let him walk away like i'm sure ariel would have delivered the kind of post-fight interview that that would have at the moment would have needed which is to challenge him larry merchant style what or jim gray style like what they yo by the way come on i didn't even see this a buddy of mine who I should

excommunicate because he keeps asking me about Dylan Dennis he goes did you see what Dennis posted on I guess maybe Twitter I'm not sure on Sunday and it was I guess a clip from Raging Bull and I was almost like just fucking stop I don't even want to hear it and it's the part of Raging Bull where he's like you never got me down and it's like

well you did go down one when you pulled guard and two when you went down on that paycheck that you stole and didn't come out swinging right like just come on I mean it's like dude lasting against Logan Paul I gotta tell you not an achievement no not an achievement although although Floyd Mayweather did it but not an achievement yeah once again Floyd not an achievement. Yeah, once again, Floyd, not an achievement. I mean, Floyd's got many real achievements. That ain't one of them. All right, from Jimmy underscore Reed,

with this win, Araujo cracks the top 10. She beat Jennifer Maia. That was the only pick you got wrong on OK Bet. Do you like perhaps a Macy Barber or Lauren Murphy fight next? BC, what do you think? I'd prefer Macy Barber. That'd be a good challenge. But I do feel like, do you think i'd prefer macy barbara that'd be a that'd be a good challenge but i i do feel like do you do you agree with me that it feels like the ufc has still has like

a path to a title shot for macy like planned out like they want her to get there like like this is a so i mean still that is a viable name opponent who's coming off a good win but araujo had a had a bunch of losses before no actually i don't love that fight screw that i think macy barbara deserves a bigger name, Luke. I want to find out right now if she's ready to fight for the title. That's what I want. If that's the case, the Chukagian or Lauren Murphy option, I like either of those.

Those are two tough fights. I'm ready for that old guard to leave, Luke. I'm not telling them that they have to go home, but they can't stay here because the new guard at 125 is fun and vibrant, Luke. It is. That is true. That is very true. All right, BC, from the uh ever present telvin

kipapa this is a better question for you i'm gonna call him janabek because i cannot pronounce his last name well do you guys think janabek can become a big star like triple g what do you think bc so i'm first i'm gonna attempt for the first time after hearing bernardo Asuna say it to pronounce this. Janabek Alamkunalai. Is that close? Kunalai. All right. Kanuli. Kanuli.

Yeah, take the Kanuli. No, I don't think he can become as big of a superstar as Triple G, who really had, in some cases, like a perfect storm, like, character. Like, here's where you got to give triple G a lot of credit outside of fighting Canelo. He never turned into the pay-per-view draw that they had hoped. In fact, his pay-per-view debut against David Lemieux bombed.

It did 175,000 back when you needed to do like 700,000 for it not to be a bust, but triple G became a crawl, almost a crossover household name, not, not general household, but like a sports crossover name. He became that character, that guy that knocks everybody out and then says the smiley Borat things in the mic afterwards. Because he had that perfect mix of devastating power, endearing, unique personality.

Like I almost think he'd like purposely butcher his English pronunciations of things to sort of you know make it all fun and part of the character um but also had like legitimacy in an amateur background and was a legit pound for pound killer he got to the level where he got what a jordan contract he got a you know he got super elite watches i mean he got like legit sponsorships janabek's not on that level i don't expect him to get there but in an a completely for for one like middleweight is still a royal division it's heavyweights the royalty division welterweights the sex money pay-per-view division but middleweight historically is like the you know the third or even that time second best division in the entire sport it's as bad as it can be right now. So even though he's benefiting from that window opening

and the fact that we had on Saturday a unification fight between unbeaten champions, neither of whom speak English and neither of whom's name I can confidently pronounce, even with that, Janabek looked like an absolute badass, did what he had to do with his quick explosive punching from the southpaw stance, said the right things afterwards, wants to fight anyone. I think he's a threat for Jamal Charlo. Should Charlo stay in this division, and should that be a fight that's even possible to make,

which I doubt it is. I think it's more likely that Charlo would move up to 168 and take on the big names there. So, okay, if Charlo leaves, he is the class of the division. Basically, what I'm saying is, can he be a star on Triple G's level? No. But he's the best, potentially the best and most exciting fighter in a division that time forgot. The best thing he could do is seek out more unifications,

collect all the hardware, and fight as often as possible, which was the Triple G game plan. When everybody was avoiding him he just said look every three and a half months i'm going to be there for you hbo on the dot that's how you that's the best thing you can do when you don't have some of those inherent advantages in terms of becoming a star the future is bright for this guy he can punch he's tough as shit but he ain't triple g come on this guy come on let's move through these a little quickly because we're running a little bit long here number four taekwonke1Dude memes, BC,

to borrow a BC game, call me crazy, but if Volk beats Islam in his next fight, will be, excuse me, if Volk beats Islam, his next fight will be Conor at UFC 300. 300 can't get much bigger than Conor McGregor for a belt. They can even spin it as a fight for featherweight even though it'd be 155. Goat versus Volk, who has beaten every other champ other than connor true or false what do you think

okay that's interesting now and i want to poo-poo it right away but let's not forget that even volkanovsky wanted connor not just for the clout and the money but basically because that's the only featherweight champion connor has in what fought and beat of uh right oh no except for that's right no that is true yeah okay yeah you could sell that if he becomes a two division champion and puts himself in a just a different level historically not just of critical value of course but takes his brand and and really puts it forth to the next level yeah luke with the height difference you actually could sell that fight him against volk at lightweight i mean Volk would destroy him but yeah yeah you

could you actually I think if Volk goes out there here's what I'm going to say if Volk goes out there and then demolishes Islam which is unlikely but let's just pause at a scenario where it happens and then gets on the mic and says it's Conor McGregor or it's nothing I wonder I wonder you know it takes it would take a lot but I think it's a power move but okay do you think the short camp might facilitate the need to come out and look to try to finish islam who he did knock down and wobble in the first we'll talk about that more on wednesday but i i think that he's going to get right to work early in this one i don't think he's going to build up to it which which is what he usually does against max not going to do that here all right last but not least

from jonathan toderian uh paul versus danis was the most embarrassing thing i've ever seen Max, not going to do that here. All right, last but not least, from Jonathan Todarian. Paul versus Dennis was the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen. Would you rather watch more old man fights, Chuck versus Tito 3? God. Or celebrity boxing? I mean, they're both real fucking bad. This took so much air out of any of those balloons. It did.

I want to say it again. Jake versus Nate Diaz, while not great, brought me up, brought me back off the ledge where I, where I welcomed, if done right, I welcomed a good fight in this area.

I don't want any more in this area. It's going to take the right fight with the right build to ever win me over again. And I don't think it's out there right now. None of these guys can box. I don't care about the Paul brothers beating a KSI or a fury. I mean, is there,

is there, is there heat behind Jake fighting Tommy Fury again to try to beat him? How could there be after that performance against KSI? No, stop. Unless it's Conor McGregor, which would demand you to care, right? Or unless it's like Floyd taking a kind of dangerous fight he probably shouldn't against someone younger. No, no. But I will say this.

You see Triller is back. i don't know how i don't know where they're getting money from and they're trying to do razor ruddick versus james lights out tony so that fight was already happening it's going to be in jamaica and i keep getting asked by some pr person if i want to interview either guy no i don't that fight should not be happening mike mike tyson versus versus Roy Jones produced a ridiculous 1.6 million pay-per-view buys in 2020 because of the name power but also because of the belief that those

two guys were like if they got in great shape which they did could it be something for a few rounds we were still cringing waiting hoping that nobody got hurt these guys are going to get hurt just by training like you see Mark Coleman like you see him coleman like you see him shadow boxing still like still getting in shape for this montel griffin boxing match don't

do it like stop dude james tony was slurring his words before he fought randy couture yes yes no yes anyway that's it time for bc species all right i scoured the globe yesterday the highs lows all that other bs uh i think this is a good batch you know only luke's reaction will ultimately define that this one's called have you seen this shit we have dude i can't we can't hear it did they play the the actual like music like have you seen this shit did they play that one yes it did according to long island luke whose father i don't know if you know this luke is from australia you only mention it every time i talk to you yeah yeah it's interesting all right misfits boxing from manchester england luke former bellator fighter anthony taylor ended up having by far the best

ring walk at this cursed event well let's get your thoughts luke thomas this is far the best ring walk at this cursed event. Well, let's get your thoughts, Luke Thomas. This is my kind of ring walk right now. Just women with big asses. I mean, this is really my wheelhouse right now. Luke, I mentioned KSI cried a foul after this majority decision loss. Let's hear his case and then never talk about it again. The Fury name, obviously he's a pro boxer. If I won, it's a mockery for the sport.

It's how they see it. I've won it, bro. I've won it. I got robbed. It's outrageous, bro. Minus point as well. Bro, I was landing the cleaner shots. He couldn't get any jabs off.

He couldn't get any jabs off. Bro, I was out of range every single time. He tried to jab me. I slipped, gave him an uppercut, gave him an overhand, bang on the money. How? Do you wish, obviously look, double jabs on, I don't, he didn't.

Fury landed 12 punches. The whole fight, and he won it. The punch stats, the punch stats, as your coach is screaming, the punch stats do indicate that you landed more, you threw more as well. I threw more and landed more. Did I lose that? He's the pro boxer, bro.

He's the pro boxer. All right, end that, end that. Yeah, he didn't win. He had a horrible shit performance. He barely landed anything. He landed two right hands. He danced a lot, and then he hugged the rest of the time. You know, nobody has an argument here for sure and i hear some people saying didn't tommy fury only

land nine total punches or 12 total punches yeah that's what it felt like so neither of you deserve to have one they should have cut your trunks up from the back as you exited the ring they should have burned up their professional licenses at the end of this that's what they thank you uh luke dylan dennis is claiming that j uh that claiming that Logan Paul should have been disqualified because a member of his team entered the ring during the melee before the melee fully broke off. Here's

the footage he's referencing. A security guard for Logan Paul right there jumped in and then got out and this was right before it turned into a brawl. Is there a case for this money stealing idiot luke i have to tell you i i um i don't really care if they go by the book on these dumb ass things you know what i mean like no danis deserves every bad thing that happens

as a result of that i don't have any sympathy technically that is a dq technically technically yeah technically right but but it's but it's but it's you know it's bumblefuck boxing it's the same thing why i always say oscar de la jolla while he did get robbed against felix trinidad he cannot historically complain about it in my opinion he coasted because him and his team decided to not box the final three rounds thinking they had it in the in the can luke yep and it was him who took it in the can in the end and that's you know it know, it's unfortunate unless, you know, unless it was fortunate. And that's another topic.

Here is Logan. Did you see that video? I guess you didn't see it. There's a video going around. Danny Segura sent it to me where, like, Oscar was signing autographs and someone says to him in Spanish, like, take out your balls. And he, like, loved it and was, like, grabbing and shit. You haven't seen this?

No, that makes me uncomfortable. But let's keep it going here. Here's Logan Paul's victory speech. Luke, somebody is about to get pregnant, baby. Listen, everybody. Wow, room full of people I love. People from the past, the present, and the future.

Chris Hansen? Thank you guys so much for coming. We did it. I really wanted to knock him out so badly, but I told myself I wasn't going to go in there and fight with emotion. The one thing we did do is beat that fucking bitch's ass. Yes, sir.

We did it. We beat that bitch's ass. No, you didn't. Not really. I mean, he teed off. There was that one round where he did, right? Where he was kind of punching him. You're stronger than ever tonight. Come on.

Yeah! Yeah! around where he did right where he was kind of punching him there's Nino Luke he's about to slip one past the goalie if you know what I mean I mean if it know what I mean. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if it was me, I probably wouldn't have made any sexual overtures,

given the nature of the pre-fight buildup. Yeah, and I probably wouldn't have gloated about beating that ass when you kind of didn't, and I get that he didn't fight well. But okay, hey, enough of that. We'll never speak of it again. UFC was at the apex over the weekend, and dude, Edson Barbosa in round three came very close to giving us terry adam 2.0 luke let's look back on this look at this he ended up grazing him across the forehead with it so he didn't get full extension but yusef did a dance and that that really turned the tide if you were he tried to gator roll him here

here he goes for the three-quarter stack and then he ticked the back this is what i mean wow man that is edson dude still got it still got it man best best wheel kicker in ufc history by far whenever you do that bow i'm always like bow with a bow to bang to bang big digger didn't they bury that guy in a shoebox what was his name i forget uh little joe yeah r.i.p baby r.i.p uh luke how about some vaccine humor we haven't done this ill-advised idea in a while but all right let's see what do you think about this car window offering gotta love the i'll come to you part really yeah seems like a good deal luke right seems like i have a feeling that his jizz is not in high demand bc i have a feeling yeah and what do you think of this meme from the vax community luke is it on point let's see i trust gas station sushi more

than i trust the cdc you know what um i've never have you ever had gas station sushi hell no but i know you have from like a cvs one time right yeah uh the cvs below rockefeller center i did have that i also got diarrhea yeah yeah obviously right i see i'll eat big y sushi and my wife draws the line she's like hell no she only eat it from the specialty grocery stores like whole foods or fresh market i'll eat big y but that's my limit that's my limit okay yeah i regret the sushi at the at the underground cvs i probably shouldn't have done that all right time for some spring break fun you got to be careful around the pools in these parts oh he's white bc i can't believe it i yeah yeah wow oh god damn i like how he ricocheted into Yeah. Wow. Wow. Oh, God. Damn. I like how he ricocheted into perfect temperature,

to perfect posture. Look. For just a moment. Doctor said he needed a backiotomy after that one for sure. He slept with my mama. Luke. Why don't you go take a dip in the pool, fuckface? This next guy is not Dylan Danis, but this spring breaker kind of looks like him.

Your thoughts, Luke? Let's see this. Yeah, I mean, this guy is going to get a Darwin Award anyway. Luke, a couple weeks ago on a bullet train. That's me vaping after my car has been stolen, really. Luke, on a bullet train in Japan, New Japan Pro Wrestling filmed a match, including former MMA legend Minoru Suzuki, who beat Ken Shamrock twice. That's him on the right. Luke, what would happen if you were on the train on the way back from the Jersey City Studios and this broke out?

You would see me on the news for having gone to jail for killing everybody. Luke, you got to give Suzuki respect for still being a badass at 55, right? Yeah, I mean, at 55, he's still out here putting his crotch on other men's faces and having a great time, and the audience loves it. Oh, yeah. Lots of women in that audience, I noticed, huh? Look at that gotch pile driver right in the aisle way right there. You got to love that.

All right. Hey, you ever listen in on a domestic fight, Luke? Sometimes gets weird that's why you should keep i grew up with divorced parents yeah sure all right you ever see this this break oh my god i just want you to listen to me dude i understand this, man. Yeah. I understand. Have you ever been at one of these points where you're trying to argue with something about it,

and they just won't listen, and it has driven you to the point of madness? That's what it looks like right there. That's what I do. I stand outside of Macy's. I run full blast into the window and headbutt it like I'm Gus Farratt. Luke, it's great. Yeah, all right. Weekend boxing recap.

Let's go to Showtime from Down Under. Watch this trio of right-hand uppercuts that Tim Zoolands in round seven to hurt Mendoza and really change the sequence of this fight, the tenor of it. Yeah, the fight was never the same after this. And you could see Mendoza's still kind of hittable, but there's a certain piercing nature to the punches that Zoo's putting on him here. It was a great work. And Zoo's not disguising a lot of these. He's just coming with right-handed thunder and bringing it.

Yeah, he's just timing it really well, placing it really well, just catching good opportunities when they exist. This was nice. Yeah, one more time. Oh, there you go. That's great to see. Okay, let's keep it going.

Top ring from Arizona. Here's Janabek in that middleweight title unification bout against guadaleri in round six hurting him he would go on to he would stop him one round later in round six but this is him doing damage with that quick powerful left hand he's a tough out luke he is give him credit no he looked tremendous these are ridiculous punches and then going to the body right there oh yeah, you've got to love it, man. Brian McIntyre-Bomack showed up on the broadcast and explained himself to Mark Kriegel after getting out of the can. Brian, to the best you can, what happened?

Man, I'm going to be honest with you. I got caught with a firearm at the airport in my luggage going underneath. And to tell everybody it was an honest mistake. I forgot it was in there. It had been in there a couple months since May, since we started camp with Terrence. And it turned up. It turned up at the airport, you know, so.

You usually carry a licensed firearm, is that correct? Yeah, it was a licensed firearm, you know, so. You usually carry a licensed firearm, is that correct? Yeah, it was a licensed firearm, you know. I know your lawyer didn't want you to talk about this, and I appreciate you. Oh, man, we home free now. Yes, you are. Look, it just turned up, right? I mean, what do you want me to do? I mean, I just, you know, i was making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich i opened the bread loaf and there

was you know a desert eagle in there it happens yeah i mean uh we have wondered if he would come out of jail like mayweather did in 2012 doing a record number of push-ups and and looking not only shredded but yeah remember mayweather's chest i mean he had to lose actually a lot of weight after that yeah no he was bomac was getting the extra slices of toast and beans out there. All right, all right. I mean, it is true. It is true. Here we go.

Luke, friend of the program, Giovanni Marquez, son of Showtime analyst and Showbox fame and former world champion Raul. Dude, look at this finish he put on this guy. The first of three knockdowns. You can watch the ending here. Young Gio in his top-ranked debut where the old man used to fight. Not bad, right? Nice uppercut.

Sits him down. Let's see what he does. High guard. Oh! Oh! The right hand can't miss, man. You know, Tim Bradley was on commentary, and after the stoppage, Bradley said, this Marquez kid can fight. He can fight kid can fight luke i think he can fight i called this pro debut he looks pretty good this other guy's trying to protest it it's like dude you gotta do

a lot more convincing than just telling the ref you can do it you gotta fight back and here's the finish ah the right hand just can't miss oh look at the machine gun flurry yeah nice work that's a good stoppage. He was a number one rated amateur at one point. Fights at 140 pounds and a fighter on the rise and a good kid too. Good to see that. I don't have footage, Luke, of Pat Miletic versus Mike Jackson, but Pat in his 50s kicked his ass and then gashed out after two rounds.

Do you have any reaction? I mean, it's amazing. He apparently beat him up and then life beat him up, and he just had enough and quit, so Mike Jackson wins. Is that a power move? Because if you're a militant, you're like, okay, I just beat his ass, like 10-8, 10-8, and now I'm just, I shot my load.

All I'm going to do is go out there and look bad and get beat up, but if I walk away now, it's kind of like taking your ball and going home, but walking away on top, well afterwards he said something kind of interesting he was that america's too divided which i think is he's right and that he was going to go on some kind of like spiritual journey in arizona something like that and i was like you know what probably can't hurt after getting multiple duis so do you think he will uh involve toads in this journey yeah yeah yeah you don't go to arizona just for the climate i mean you got to put a little uh yeah yeah there you go there you go all right let's

keep it going luke whose kid is this right is it yours i mean this is great work right here i don't have a son but if i did that's what they do yeah yeah indeed let's go to a cbs product the price is right is this celebration right for this type of show oh oh no he pulled his hand oh considering so i don't know if you know this a lot of like uh i think male but mostly female soccer players have been doing that they'll score and then like oh they'll grab their hamstring and then they twerk um you know i guess you can do it on the prices right on national television if you have no sense of shame i think shop did that against

chapelle and their 40-yard dash but then he didn't like twerk afterwards. There it is. It wouldn't be a Monday episode without the skits and bits. Kibbles and skits and bits and bits and yeah. Remember when Randy Johnson threw that pitch and killed that bird? That was pretty badass, right? Yeah, let's watch this guy down at the carnival.

Dad! Look at this fucking o what the fuck that's a stiff jab right there right from brian dennehy not bad that's you know that's some english dude who's just you know his he's got liver cirrhosis like it's going out of style all right do we have volume for this next one i want to make sure because i got to get luke's take on this move. Okay, we do. Here we go. Let's listen to this. Don't try this at home. I hope you like it. Whoop, whoop. Fuck this shit. Oh, what the fuck?

That guy's going to love our... I got to tell you, I'm a big fan of backyard wrestling because it's just a bunch of donks maiming each other. I'm really, I'm a big fan of that. That's that guy's shtick, and he always shouts out the juggalosos beforehand and then he does that f this shit and then he yeah but he's gonna love that room service diary i've seen him jump into like barbed wire and cactus and shit i'm like guy there's got to be a better way to make a buck there's gotta be a better way uh luke you're always talking about abusing the american flag is this move an abuse of the stars and stripes, in your opinion?

Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Well, look who's driving, Luke. Look at that. There is no way that the driver of this vehicle has either, A, served in the military or law enforcement, or B, is up to date on their taxes. It's a bald eagle.

That's the most America you can be. Do people think raping the U.S. flag is patriotic? Guys, treating it with reverence is how you respect the flag. I don't know why it's so hard to understand. Okay, all right. Luke, what's the opposite of elder abuse? Child abuse? Yeah, happy birthday to this kid. Yeah, all right. All of elder abuse? Child abuse? Yeah.

Happy birthday to this kid. Yeah. All right. All right. Ready? One, two, three. Happy birthday. Oh.

And Luke, remember that Atari. Hey, I thought Wakanda had better technology than this. This guy was all ready. You know what I'm saying? He was ready to have his big day as the Black Panther, and the table didn't last. Remember that Atari game Pitfall as a kid that was awesome? It was like Indiana Jones.

Was that the one where you had to grab the rope and then swing to the other side? And then we used to play Pitfall in our backyards, and it would look a lot like this. Okay, all right, that one worked. Very good. Successful landing, yes. Let's watch big.

Okay, all right, nice and easy. Nice and easy with the capri pants. Very good. Oh, look at that. There we go. There we go. Head first. Yeah. You know what grip strength gotta work on that grip luke they say you never know what's gonna happen at an intersection in tacoma let's let's let's get a live cam at that okay is he wearing a thong what the fuck am i looking at he's a one-legged man and a thong whose car has a truck has broken down he's pushing it across the intersection i guarantee you that

guy has taken parts from the engine to make like a leg part you know i'm saying he's made both his leg and his crack pipe from that same vehicle. Look, that's like, you know, hunters always justify it. They're like, no, I used the whole animal, right? You know, this guy's scary. He's like, yeah, I stole your truck, but I made 14 things in my life I can use. Listen, I tell you what, if the guy who stole my car can do that, he can have it. Sir, you can have it.

All right, let's keep it going. A couple more. How about some road rage gone wrong? Road rage always goes wrong. Always. Yeah, have a drink, asshole. Have a drink. Drink up that glass windshield, fuckface.

Tyson Fury was on hand this weekend. Don't be the guy who's trying to act tough on a fucking bicycle. Huh? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Don't be the guy who's trying to act tough on a fucking bicycle. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Luke, this influencer wanted advice on Tyson Fury on how to get laid. I'm a man who isn't phenomenal with the ladies, right?

So I'm just wondering, do you have any tips on how I could potentially lose the old V-card? Just get your cock out. That's it i mean it it works for matt lauer luke right it's just it's just he's like how do i get better with the ladies um commit crimes yeah he's like i've got this move called the hobby yes yes yes yes uh the uh, that was pretty gross. Two more for you, Luke. Speaking of sexual harassment training, did you ever see this video when you logged in to do it? In some instances, the harassment may be verbal. Word around the office is you've got a fat cock.

I mean, we talk recklessly at the office, but not quite that that folks is harassment thank you and i've got one more for you i don't know what kind of bike this is luke but i think it's the uh the bj line right the bj edition you know what i'm saying just boy when this gives new meaning to the word roadhead that is your uh your issue look at grandpa i'm gonna go down to the piggly wiggly and on the way just get my dick sucked yeah well sir you're not the only one going down right now all right that's it right there all right you know what i give that i give that a solid b plus that's a good b plus okay like it. Like very, very good. I enjoyed that. That was great. Let's remind everyone, remind everyone.

We do have a youtube.com slash morning combat. We're going to have some kind of a version of a pregame preview, but we're also going to have the Eric Nixick room service diaries, which we, which we shot and recorded at extreme couture in Las Vegas. That is going to be very good. That should be, I got an interview.

That'll be out today with the world's most dangerous man. That is going to be very good. I got an interview that'll be out today with the world's most dangerous man. Who is that? Ken Shamrock? That's Ken Shamrock. Yeah, yeah. Why are you talking to Ken Shamrock? I don't know if you remember that Ken started a new promotion called Valor Bare Knuckle back in 2019.

I don't know if you remember they had UFC vets. Ishe Smith was on that card. They're back. They're back later this month. So I talked to him not only about that, Luke, but about the WWE UFC connection with TKO. Obviously, he's somebody who's been on both sides of that and also the whole idea of why the Zufa and now the Endeavor era

doesn't necessarily recognize the SEG era historically for the UFC some interesting topics that we get into that enjoy that one that should be an interesting one I interviewed Ken Shamrock before he fought Kimbo yes uh and I thought everything was you know I thought he was kind of washed then I guess not not. Well, he says he feels like he could still fight, Luke, but I wanted to ask you, historically, he has been linked with some controversy, so now is your chance to give the truth. Did he gig himself or blade job himself

so that Kimbo could fight Seth Petruzzelli, true or false? I don't think so, no. Okay. Did you know that the announcers for Balor VK later this month will be, are you ready for this? The announce team,

Bobby Chez, former Showtime pay-per-view analyst from the 90s, and Seth Petruzzelli. Hmm. Seth is an experienced competitor. He might be pretty good. Okay.

Okay, there you go. Not sure what to say about that, but I wish them the best of luck. all right let's remind everyone else of course as we mentioned tons of uh content coming your way youtube.com slash morning combat uh let's give everyone the the rundown because i don't think we did at the top of the show so morning combat.store you can get stuff like this right oh oh we got an announcement about morning combat.store we talked to oh you're not going to get this rousey wins again shirt because i think i have the only edition of it outside of ramona shelbert but luke if you want great merch like this or if you want chapter two in the relationship between rj dunkel gangbang and average joe art

over there at morning combat.store i heard that scooby-doo edition just in time for halloween is going to go live this week i've heard that luke i've heard that shitoby-Doo edition just in time for Halloween is going to go live this week. I've heard that, Luke. I've heard that shit. I have heard the same, and I'm looking forward to getting a free sample, if you know what I'm saying. Please send me a free sample. Hey, guys, here's the deal. If you like the Average Joe art, I don't mean to constantly every day saying, vote for us or the show will get canceled.

I'm just saying if you like it, then buy it because there could be more where that came from. Okay? Thank you very much. There it is. Okay. so then there's that showtime.com get a 30-day free trial if you like it you can keep it if not you can bounce showtime.com is the label that pays morningcombat at gmail.com to reach the show any kind of feedback for the producers we won't read it but they will and um yeah we already mentioned the other stuff so that's it for us today bc any final thoughts before we call it a show? When is the Ngannou fight with Fury?

Not this coming Saturday, but the following. So what date is that? 28th. 28th. Okay. Is that in the afternoon? It is in the afternoon. Yeah, from Saudi Arabia.

Yep. What do you think about the idea of doing what the people want us to do? I think it's a good idea i think we should now that fight is also bad but you do still have two real athletes in it so and there's some heavyweight boxing fights on there on the undercard that aren't great but don't suck you know what i'm saying yeah yeah i mean i only really care about the main event and i only really care if francis can pull and I only really care if Francis can pull the near-impossible upset. But he might. We'll see.

He might. All right. So we'll have plenty of content for 294 coming your way this week. Be on the lookout for that. But that's it for today. So for Malka, CBS, Showtime, Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so much for watching. Stay tuned for BC's interviews and everything else we have coming to youtube.com slash morning combat.

And until then, may all of your gains be loyal.