MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Bellator 285 | Anderson Silva On Dana White | Mayweather - McGregor 2? | Morning Kombat Ep 352

Episode Date: September 23, 2022

On Episode 352 of MK, Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell do one final preview of Bellator 285. Plus, they react to Anderson Silva's quotes about Dana White and discuss Connor McGregor shooting down Floyd ...Mayweather's call for a rematch.  If you support the show, please vote for Morning Kombat in the "Best MMA Programming" Category: https://www.worldmmaawards.com/nominees/   Get MORNING KOMBAT merchandise now: https://morningkombat.store/ #MorningKombat #andersonsilva #connormcgregor #floydmayweather #bellator #UFC #Boxing #UFCREsults #ufcreaction #Boxingreaction #DAZN #lukethomas #briancampbell  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh yeah, oh yeah oh and I said oh yeah wow we got going creed already here it's Friday guys it's September 23rd the year of our lord 2022 and you stumbled upon some might say
Starting point is 00:00:39 the best damn combat sports show period we got the awards to prove it The best damn combat sports show. Period. We got the awards to prove it. This here is Morning Combat. I'm Brian Campbell, that beige bastard, the BBC with the BDE, if you will. Some have. My partner in crime today
Starting point is 00:01:00 is the best damn non-fighting fight analyst of all the people who know a lot of things about tough stuff but haven't ever done it themselves he's the best at it it's luke thomas i've done a few tough things fuckhead i've done a few i've done a few but yes thank you happy to be sorry former marine sergeant luke thomas i didn't get that by accident, dickface. Had to earn that one. Yes, happy to be here. We got some fights. By the way, the fights will basically, we'll just tag Bellator in because as soon as the show is over, basically the Bellator prelims start
Starting point is 00:01:34 and those are always a bloodbath. So, fun little afternoon. Yeah, you ever drive by and reach your hand out the car and like high-five a friend driving by? Luke, that's going to be us and Josh Thompson at the end of the show, all right? I mean, maybe me and Josh Thompson. i don't know about you and josh i know i did use the word friend i mean yeah there's a thin line between friend and foe these days but we got a probably a pretty damn good show for you today we're going to set the
Starting point is 00:01:57 stage for the weekend ahead in combat sort out the latest news listen to your dead wrongs and maybe even have a little fun with a happy hour to close if we get that far but i want to remind you of our fantastic backbone that puts this together cbs sports showtime malca and speaking of those partners at showtime uh today would be a great time to start your 30 day free trial by going to Showtime.com. Why? Because how about Bellator 285 today? Main card, 4 p.m. Eastern on Showtime. And if you start your monthly trial now, it'll still be free by the time BC closes out the showbox season on October 21st in Atlantic City.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Just something to put on your calendar right there. Luke, I'm not here necessarily to sell things for people but i know people are looking at this badass factory town mma t-shirt that i'm wearing that kind of looks like it's like your local biker gang you know i kind of got that feel going on like i could be an extra and fast and the furious wearing this right only if you were like some kind of uh janitor or you know picked on ner of janitor or, you know, picked on nerdy school teacher who got, you know, beat up by his own students like Morgan Freeman and what's it called?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Some of my favorite action movies have started that way. I mean, Billy Blank says like a whole second chapter of his career being a janitor who ends up effing up, you know, nerdy 17-year-olds who think they're tough. So that's the story there teenagers are stupid and worthless and beating them up is always a good thing i'm in on that for the most part except for my two teenagers in my house luke uh factory town mma is just one of the many options you can get at morningcombat.store including luke's dead face
Starting point is 00:03:39 and uh you know the real talk like men do so go on over there. I wore a bomber jacket to drop off Tuki at school today. Did people give you that look like, yeah? People mostly don't look at me when I walk around, but my wife thought it was cool. So that's good enough for me. Oh, that Mr. Plow scenario. It's coming back in your marriage, Luke. Yes, Mr. Plow, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Who knew RJ Dunkelfucker could be the, you know, the Spanish fly to, to keep things fresh. Oh, I meant to tell you BC. I'm sorry. I got to interrupt you about that. I talked to RJ Dunkel gang bang yesterday.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So someone hit me up about this idea. I don't know if we're going to do it, but I put it in his, the way you describe it. I put it in his ear hole. Yeah. We are talking about maybe maybe doing some mk man bags that's right
Starting point is 00:04:31 mk man purses mochillas if you will i mean i feel like we should be at a point luke where gender pronouns are not a part of our vernacular so if you were looking at anything binary in the mk bag department i could be in on that but uh these are man bags i mean girls already have purses why the hell would they use one of these i mean i guess they could but speaking of which here's the other part so uh you know we're always like we've got male dot dot dot viewers i gotta tell you the female viewers had enough of our shit they hit me up all over social media being like hey dude why do you keep pretending we don't exist why are you ignoring us yeah i gotta say and i got some requests so over
Starting point is 00:05:11 back to uh rj uh dunkel gangbang um the women viewers have requested that we get some specific merch tailored towards them some shirts for example that they can wear that are more appropriate for their fit i gotta say i appreciate the women the women who are relatively normal who watch the show, and I think they're right. I think we kind of owe them a little bit. Well, knowing you and RJ's combined culture, I'm afraid we're going to come out with MK's chick stips, chains, whips, S&M line, but hopefully there's something for the ladies out there, Luke, that they can wear, you know? That's just you being awful.
Starting point is 00:05:48 No one was talking about that. They just wanted a form-fitting T-shirt, and you're over here talking about something that is utterly irrelevant. So glad you're here. Well, you guys kind of par for the course on the show. Luke, people can like this video. They can subscribe to what we do here on Morning Combat. It does go a long way, folks, okay, for this show to continue to take over the world, not just combat. We're coming for you, your lifestyle, your time.
Starting point is 00:06:16 We're basically looking to move in with you, MK, in your house on a daily basis. For us to get there, keep supporting us. Tell your friends. Vote on our awards. I don't even know if they're still live, but thank you, fans. Yes, they are. They are. on our awards i don't even know if they're still live but thank you fans they are they are so you can go to world mma awards.com slash nominees right now if you're so inclined to push mk over the top for the second straight year as best mma programming you're gonna have to hurl over ariel and rogan and dana like we did last year to help us get to that point but at this point it's out
Starting point is 00:06:40 of our hands luke you know it's like my therapist always tells me about my travel anxiety. You can't control the airlines, okay? Luke, it's up to the people right now, all right? I also have travel anxiety, but that's where Kush Bites come in handy. Like, sir, you've sat in the eighth seat on Delta for 25 consecutive flights. This is amazing. Like, sir, the commode is not your chair. You need to go get in your seat, please. Thankre the giant all right there you go luke i mean how embarrassing
Starting point is 00:07:10 must have been from they used to have to put a curtain around him and he would like crap in a chamber pot in the back yeah that had to suck um you know but he's dead so whatever yeah that guy must have tremendous bl i'll tell you that i'll tell you that much all right you want to start this damn show uh we don't have any ag1 reads but luke you want to ask me what's keeping me alive gang green right here okay you're having your uh ag1 i haven't had mine yet today i'll probably have it after the show but uh i am also excited about ag1 it is a good product that i enjoy hawking yeah there it is all right let's get into the matters at hand and tonight as i mentioned 4 p.m eastern main card start on showtime it is
Starting point is 00:07:53 bellator 285 those prelims gonna hit you up a few hours earlier on the showtime sports and bellator youtube channels on pluto tv as well 285 emanating from Dublin. They're back. We're back. And the Irish fans have been known to bring it when it comes here. And a lightweight tilt in the main event featuring former WEC and UFC champion Benson Henderson against recent title challenger Peter Quealy in his own backyard. We are going to expect the zombie, hey, hey, entrance here.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But Luke, reading the words of both this week, listening to Bellator Scott Coker, you do get the feel here now that given their ages, it's sort of in some ways a loser leaves town scenario. But the winner could catapult himself back into the title picture for one more run here. Who's most likely to do it as we enter tonight's main event? You know, I've not looked at the odds. So before I even pull those up, my answer is going to be, it's got to be Benson Henderson. Probably not by a huge amount. Let's see what our friends over at Caesars have to say.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah, that's right. They've got Benson Henderson currently, as I speak to you right now at about a minus 195 Peter Quilley at about a plus 165 to your point. Peter Quilley 37 years of age Benson Henderson 38 years of age. He'll be a 39 I believe in November. So that's for 155 that is definitely long in the tooth. Although both still have a little bit of life left in them. In fact, Benson Henderson coming off the I think his last fight was the Mamedov win so yes that was a
Starting point is 00:09:28 split decision that was a split decision but he did get the job done survived some tough moments I I definitely feel like this is Benson Henderson's fight to lose I'll say this Peter Quigley's definitely going to be lifted by that crowd he's definitely going to be lifted by the moment I think I think he also recognizes if he really wants to make a move for the title the way that you described. It's kind of this, especially since he beat Petriki Pitbull, but it was controversial because of the cut. Then he had the rematch and he got stopped. And then if you lose to Henderson, it's kind of like, where do you really go after that? You could still be valuable on the roster in other ways,
Starting point is 00:10:02 but in terms of that apex opportunity this is kind of it and again they brought the show to basically his hometown his backyard it's you know it's a bit of a shit or get off the pot kind of moment here for sure for Benson Henderson it's a little bit interesting remember the Mamadou fight was the last fight on his last Bellator deal he didn't know if he was going to be back with Bellator he didn't know if he was going to be back he was staying you and in't know if he was going to be back, stay in any of MMA at all. Like he thought maybe this could be the end,
Starting point is 00:10:31 but he's back here. I would tend to think that if he loses here, hard to say if he hangs it up, but that could certainly facilitate it pretty quickly. I think if he wins though, man, this is full steam ahead, make one last push at the title. That's really what this comes down to, as you indicated.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Two guys who are much longer in the tooth, who are still doing a little something-something out there, but they've really got to make an opportunity here out of this moment tonight in Dublin, Ireland. And I would lean towards Henderson. I just feel like Henderson's got a little bit more juice, a little bit more athleticism. Both guys are hittable, but Henderson, to me,
Starting point is 00:11:04 has been a little bit more battle- both guys are hittable but henderson to me has been a little bit more battle tested against guys with bigger power queely not as much this should should be a henderson win you set the stage perfectly and listening to coker's words i really do believe the winner is going to get a a catapult back into uh title contention here for queely luke i don't worry about the age as much, even though he's only one year younger than Henderson, because I feel like he did come into his own and really find his best run in his mid-30s there. He's one fight removed, as you mentioned, from fighting for the vacant title against Patrycki Pitbull and getting stopped
Starting point is 00:11:37 and coming up empty. I don't think he's as talented or as experienced against the same type of names as a Benson Henderson. But I do wonder, you thought Benson a little bit fresher. I think Quigley's fresher. I wonder if that ultimately, with his aggressive striking volume, can potentially be the difference here. Now, he is a underdog, as we mentioned, with the betting lines. The thing you have to look at a Benson Henderson, in my viewpoint, is he's old. He just snapped a three-fight losing streak by getting a very quality win.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But look, outside of maybe that Chandler knockout, he doesn't get handled at this age. For the natural decline he showed, he's still a huge lightweight, a tough out, durable, hard to body, hard to dominate. But if I look at this matchup, I'm going to need Queely to be active, and I'm going to need him to take some chances with the striking which obviously on the flip side could open up his exit in the same way although Benson not known certainly not in this era as a you know as a potent finisher with one or two strikes but I did like the interview I heard Benson
Starting point is 00:12:39 Anderson give Tommy Tran a CBS Sports HQ this week where he brought up the contract status that you mentioned. He said he re-signed a four-fight deal. He said it'll be his last. He's expecting to win this fight and make a run at the title. He's also expecting to finish out that four-fight deal. The motivation for him to end his decorated career with a Bellator title seems to be his fuel.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Luke, if he wins this, given in this moment that, what's our title situation? It's around the waist of Patrycki Pitbull. He's taking on Usman Nurmagomedov next. AJ McKee is going to move up very shortly in October. Is it a one-off? We don't know at lightweight in this
Starting point is 00:13:20 division. If Benson Henderson wins here, when you have a name at this advanced stage, and he's fought for two different Bellator titles in different weight divisions and come up short in competitive outings, but come up short just the same, could he catapult a win here directly into that in your eyes? Possible, especially if he goes in there and looks good doing it.
Starting point is 00:13:43 There is that. I mean, I think, dude, I really believe, honestly, like there's a, there's, yes, the answer to your question is yes. He absolutely could, given the name, given the, you know, if you're champion, so for example, if Usman Nurmagomedov ends up beating Petriki, you know, Benson Henderson fighting Usman Nurmagomedov, there is still some name value there that would be beneficial for Bellator to make that fight. I would expect widely Usman Nurmagomedov that there's some there is still some name value there that would be beneficial for Bellator to make that fight I would expect widely Usman Nurmagomedov to win but you get the idea right a little bit of a rub you could give the guy in that in that
Starting point is 00:14:13 particular sense but honestly I think it's really it's it's it's open-ended here you know Queely if he goes I mean imagine something like this right if Queely goes in there and knocks Benson Henderson out, dude, he's probably going to get the title shot too. So I really believe just Benson Henderson probably just has to win. I think Peter Quigley has to win impressively, but neither is really all that far apart. The problem is even if they get the win,
Starting point is 00:14:38 I fully expect Numerick Amadov to be the champion, and then I don't see either of these guys having much of a chance against him, and that's not a knock on them. It's just Nurmagomedov is special. He's very, very good, so it would just be not really all that doable. But to get him back to one of your points you made about Queely,
Starting point is 00:14:57 like, I don't think he can win this fight hanging back. That's not his style anyway, but the challenge of his style is that if he loves to switch stance and blitz, that's a big thing he likes to do. He likes to blitz. If he can get that going, that's a reasonable path to victory. The problem is that also sets up a lot of openings as well. The question is whether Benson Henderson is up to the task
Starting point is 00:15:21 of taking advantage of them. Henderson snapped that three-fight losing skate, which was a one-punch knockout to Michael Chandler and decision to feast to Jason Jackson and Brent Primus, but Luke had a four-fight win streak before that between 2018 and 2019, beating decent second-tier names. His two title fights were early in his transfer to Bellator, while still a somewhat prime free agent pickup from the UFC.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Split decision loss for the lightweight belt to Michael Chandler in their 2016 first meeting. And also the fight, two fights before that, he lost a unanimous decision to Andrei Koreshkov for the welterweight title. Yeah, he does have a win over Patricio Pitbull in there, but that was that weird sort of TKO
Starting point is 00:16:01 injury ending. Luke, would we... You're sleeping on his last win, which was over IslamKO injury ending. Luke, would we... You're sleeping on his last win, which was over Islam Mamadov. Dude, that's a good fighter he beat. Yeah, I don't think we're sleeping on it since we both mentioned it, and I said that's a high-quality win against an unbeaten fighter. It was a split decision.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Luke, if Benson adds this, we love the old guy rally story. We've always loved Benson Henderson, right? I mean, he's somewhat a forgotten man in the modern UFC title run era because he had a very good title reign and was as solid as it gets. If he makes a run at this and can do this, how much more will that add to what he's already accomplished in his career, ending it with a Bellator world title? I think that would be pretty special.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I think that would be very special. You could say, well, I don't necessarily a Bellator world title I think that would be pretty special I think that would be very special you know you could say well I don't necessarily see Bellator titles and at least in this division I get the 205 title to me is is very difficult to achieve in Bellator and you could say well it's not necessarily their lightweight division doesn't quite stack up with UFC and I think that's a very fine point to make but to be able to beat I mean some of these guys are very good again it would probably get meaning either beating Patrick Pitbull which I think Benson Henderson could do I wouldn't favor him to do but he could do it then to beat Usman Nurmagomedov if it comes to that that would be extremely impressive to do it barreling down the age of 40 my lord that would be really really impressive and you're right like remember he came over to Bellator with a ton of fanfare
Starting point is 00:17:21 decided to take on Andrei Koreshkov, which was a terrible idea, and he got manhandled in there. And then you pointed out against Patricio Pitbull was the weird fight where he was definitely losing up until the injury happened and all this nonsense. He's had a real up-and-down run. To be able to put an exclamation point, something quite memorable from his run.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's sort of the problem I think he's kind of had. The Mamadou fight was close. The Primus fight, you know, is a good fine fight, but somewhat forgettable. The things that have stood out to you about Benson Henderson's run in large part, I think, in Bellator is, yeah, he's had a respectable run. But the parts that really kind of stick in your memory, I think, are the losses, to be quite honest. The loss, obviously, to Andrei Koreshkov, the loss to Michael Chandler, that Michael Chandler loss granted Chandler has been dramatically improved and he earned it, but that was kind of a bad sort of one-sided thing that happened to him. So the second one, the first one, the first title fight,
Starting point is 00:18:18 I'm talking about the fight where Chandler beat him and then went to UFC the last one there, which I think was part of the COVID bubble. But either way, you get the idea. To be able to kind of overcome that, have one last push, and then claim another belt to do it against difficult opponents at age 40 or roughly age 40, boy, that would be extremely impressive. And I think, you know, where we're to put him all time in MMA lightweights, I'm not sure, but it would definitely be the kind of thing that's honestly been missing really from his Bellator experience that this kind of standout really glorious moment yeah he's still in tremendous
Starting point is 00:18:56 shape still seems to you know mentally be very strong and in the right place Luke it seems forever ago that he was the UFC uh champion probably because it was a decade ago, which in modern times feels like about 30 years ago. But don't forget those three title defenses came against Frankie Edgar, Nate Diaz, and Gilbert Melendez, even with the Gilbert fight being disputed. Nobody questioning the decorated ability. Let's see if Benson can continue this ride one more time. Luke, I'm going to pick Queely here, though. You know, like the crowd has an opportunity to lift him. He's going to have to take big chances.
Starting point is 00:19:28 He's not the same level of skill as somebody like Benson, but can he package everything else? The emotion, the activity. It's going to be an interesting fight.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I'm going to go with the Irishman here, which probably means he's going to lose by first round KO, so we'll see what happens right there. Yeah, I mean, well, Benson Henderson's not so much of a first round KO kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So that seems unlikely. And by the way, I think I don't think a pick for Quealy here is crazy at all. Look at the odds. They're not that far apart. Benson Henderson has a better resume for sure and has beaten better guys over the course of his career by a million miles. Like that's not at all in dispute but the state of where he's at while still good is not that same guy who beat Gilbert Melendez who beat you know Frankie Edgar or whatever it's a different kind
Starting point is 00:20:14 of guy and Peter Quealy yes he lost to Patrici but Patrici's got you know some pretty decent boxing and some heavy hands and so I think a guy who is going to again we mentioned it boosted by his hometown and understands this is a very important moment and has a style that is very offensively forward that carries risk but in this particular situation could make him very dangerous I'm going to ride with Henderson I just feel like he's got more ways to win and better durability than the kinds of guys that Quealy has put away before, but I recognize it's close. Absolutely. The odds not quite as close in this co-main event, although there is much reason to watch it.
Starting point is 00:20:53 The combined age is in fact 91, but Yoel Romero will be a minus 700 betting favorite, according to Caesars against the plus 500 46-old Melvin Manhoof. Melvin has said, Luke, this will be it. We have heard that from him before, but this is officially it. He's going to get the final close-up here. He's always going to bring in that one strike knockout ability. He's always going to bring in the potential that he gets got the same way.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Let's ask it like this. We expect Yoel Romero, who's a little bit fresher, not too far apart in age, by the way, to get the W here. He looked fantastic in breaking Alex Polizzi's jaw and getting his first Bellator win after that split decision loss to Phil Davis.
Starting point is 00:21:38 How do you think you all will look, though, in terms of his third appearance here at Light Heavyweight after officially making the move? In terms of, is he going to go after manhoof or is he going to be that that that coiled cobra waiting for that one perfect counter-strike see i'm not so sure because you could look at the cory anderson model where he was able to to like pressure manhoof backwards and take him down and beat him up on the ground is that really romero's style hasn't been with like obviously he's got amazing wrestling credentials but he's got freestyle wrestling not folk style it's a little bit
Starting point is 00:22:09 different and he you know and and he doesn't seem to use it in the way that you would imagine someone with that kind of a wrestling background would uh it's a threat his level changes seem to be you know uh ever present and still quick but those more often than not tend to set up strikes afterwards so I I actually feel like I would be very surprised if Romero loses I would not be surprised if it's a little bit close and honestly a little bit boring at times which I'm not trying to warn the audience not to watch that's not my point but rather like I feel like Romero's going to be there it it always has been, but especially in this contest, very selective about when he presses the gas versus the brakes.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Now, he's always kind of been that way, as I mentioned, but it would be particularly acute here. The funny part is, I think if he wanted to wrestle, especially at 205, where he should, you know, not so drained, he should be able to against a guy like Melvin, who, you know, is a well-trained MMA fighter, but is very old at this point, you know, not so drained. He should be able to against a guy like Melvin, who, you know, is a well-trained MMA fighter, but is very old at this point, relatively speaking, and has never had great wrestling takedown defense.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Romero should be able to overcome that without much issue, but he just doesn't seem to fight that way. So I think he's going to actually take some big bombs eventually from Manhoef. The problem is that Manhoef's chin has been degraded over time, which is just the inevitability of fighting a style like that. Romero's to me has noted over time which is just the inevitability of fighting a style like that romero's to me has not i think that will be the difference i would like to see you all sprinkle that in we you know we pondered that when he moved to bellator and announced the move up to 205 and you're right you know going back to his biggest ufc title fights there when he had that succession of them he just doesn't use that style he really never has in mma it's
Starting point is 00:23:43 been more of his amateur uh olymp amateur Olympic style that he broke out there. I don't know, Luke. Is it the reason why we don't see fighters carry the wrestling late into their career as aggressively because of how taxing it is? It can be, yes. That's obviously a big component of it. You need a lot of gas tank. You need a lot of horsepower for that kind of style to work.
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's part of it. And I think, you know, these guys at plus 40, in this case, well plus 40, kind of apportion their offense a little bit more thoughtfully given the realities of where they're at in their career. So that can be a part of it. But I also think that Romero believes in his hands too, right? I think he believes I can knock this guy out like and by the way he's probably right that he can whether he will we
Starting point is 00:24:30 shall see but I think that's a big part of it as well he just is absolutely convinced um that this is the way for him to win and by the way I mean obviously that's exactly how a guy like um Manho thinks he can win as well so wrestling would only be largely a defensive component here. I can't imagine it would be anything else other than a fake level low. Romero's got great boxing. And let's not forget his brother is former Cruiserweight World Champion. What is it? Juan Pablo Hernandez, I believe is the correct name.
Starting point is 00:24:56 But, Luke, the problem is that he's a little – I mean, even this has been the problem in the Adesanya fight or whatever. I mean, he's too selective. Maybe that's to protect the gas tank because when he does strike, it is so high powered and explosive, but man, you'd love to see him if he's going to commit solely to the boxing, which is really what he's doing to really work a jab and have a higher output. This would be the fight to do that even with the danger of manhook countering, but we'll see what happens. Anything can happen. I think the worst case scenario would be over
Starting point is 00:25:25 here if they went the distance like we're expecting a uh a beautiful disaster here around one so give it to us right yeah by the way i said i said it was boring but let's be clear i i'm sorry i warned that it could be depending on what romero comes out but if romero comes out the way he came out against paulo costa this is gonna be batshit it won't last that long but it'll be absolutely insane so this one will either be completely insane or could be a little bit more measured for the duration of the bout but um i i just it would be it would be weird for romero to lose a bout like this and also let me say i really i know he's kind of indicated it's almost certainly going to be i just want to say it one more time. This should be the end of Melvin Manhoef's combat sports career. The guy has done a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:09 He's had a lot of fights in both kickboxing and MMA. He's had some tremendous wins. He's had a lot of damage. It's time to do something else. All right. Luke, finally on Romero, he's made the media rounds this week, was on Ariel's show and all that. Was asked about Adesanya, and he ultimately said, go back to my fight with him.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Have you seen Adesanya look fun or exciting or entertaining since then? So, Luke, I look back on that weird fight that I was cage-side for, that I scored three rounds to two to Romero, and a lot of people still laugh at me, but come back in time. Get the jigawatt. Sit next next to me it's a weird ass fight i did see romero land that big head kick in round one that kind of you know put lowered the output of adesanya and made him tread carefully do you put any credence in what you always remember romero is saying about your city kick boner friend here about uh maybe he's the reason that adesanya has turned to the more safe practical side.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yeah, I think a lot of people think a lot of crazy things, including you, probably me to an extent. All of us really. I think that's a very silly thing to believe. All right, we'll file it ahead of Italian leather man bag as silly things. Doesn't have to be Italian or leather. I just need a man bag from rk full leather yeah mk pleather uh luke we mentioned the storylines coming in about other fights to watch i
Starting point is 00:27:31 do want to circle that mads brunel pedro carvalho fight at featherweight i don't know if you got a chance to see it but i did an instagram takeover on the mk account yesterday talk to mads brunel at length luke hell of a personality he doesn't't get the close-up or shine on a consistent basis in terms of the media, but a fun little chat there. Here's a guy who really appreciates box, trying to work a boxing style into his MMA game that's comparative to the Joe Frazier, James Toney, Philly Shell, and the defensive movements. We know he's coming off that tough loss in the No. 1 contender fight to Adam Borch, but had an 8-fight win streak before that. Gave a lot of credit to the move to Extreme Couture in recent years for really allowing him to well-round his game and come out there. And considering Pedro Carvalho has lost 3 of 4 and did get stopped by Patricio in their Grand Prix title bout, this does feel like an opportunity for Mads Brunel, as we said on Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:28:26 if he can pull it off to get a win and pretty much be right there looking for another shot. Luke, I'm getting the feeling at 28 that there's still a lot more for him to give in this division, but he's got to get by Pedro here. How does he do it with Brunel a minus 500 favorite, Carvalho plus 380? He can actually box a little bit, which we've seen now a numerous amount of times you saw in the Boric fight obviously he couldn't do it enough to win or at least not every round although he won a couple uh it was a very very difficult and close fight but you know
Starting point is 00:28:54 the guy on the ground is a wizard as well and always has been I really believe that you know Carvalho if he has a way to win it would be if Burnell makes some kind of mistake on the feet which is certainly possible. But I believe on the ground, there is a massive difference in capability. I would give the huge edge to Burnell there. So Burnell has shown a little bit more of an affinity and willingness, and frankly, eagerness, I would say, to fight on the feet more than he ever used to, understandably, because he is good there.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I want to point out, I'm not saying if it's on the feet, Burnell won't win. He might keep it on the feet and knock him out. He might be better on the feet than Carvalho, but he is for sure better on the ground. And I think he'll probably do a little bit of a mix, but I wonder if he might really make that a little bit more of a forward part of his game than he did against Boric. Now, Boric kind of shut a lot of that down too,
Starting point is 00:29:44 but I tend to think that there's going to be a little bit more of ground play in this one, and that will ultimately spell the demise of Carvalho. Introducing the new McSpicy from McDonald's. It looks like a regular chicken sandwich, but it's actually a spicy chicken sandwich. McSpicy, consider yourself warned. Limited time only at participating McDonald's in Canada.
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Starting point is 00:30:30 Terms and conditions apply. And finally, Luke, we don't talk about Leah McCourt a lot, but the women's featherweight will be back in her home of Ireland, coming off her first Bellator defeat to Sinead Kavanaugh, but taking on a rising Diana Silva. This is not a deep division, Luke. It's kind of like
Starting point is 00:30:45 you know chris cyborg arlene blanco and everybody else right how about leah mccourt making some noise here maybe potentially all right i don't know if you're moved by this are you you know all right there we go there's the picture thank you gaff okay don't don't forget brett johns on this card that's important and then there's the battle of the Carls. Carl Albrechtson versus Carl Moore. Carl Albrechtson is kind of a guy who's been around for a while, has had a different run in Bellator, and then was out, and then now he's back again, fought in Rizin as well.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Has a win over Vadim Nemkov, to be clear, all the way back in 2016. So another guy to kind of keep your eye on. He also beat Viktor Nemkov in 2021 and is riding a four-fight win streak, Carl Albrechtson. So watch that. Luke, our second top of the week takes us to Anderson Silva, of all people, who, of course, October 29th in Phoenix, Showtime pay-per-view at 47.
Starting point is 00:31:39 We'll box Jake Paul, but he was on the MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani. And the topic turned to Dana White, the UFC business practices, and really a summation of the deeper beef that Anderson seems to hold. Luke, we interviewed him on the set of the press conference in L.A. what, a week and a half ago? How would you describe when asked about UFC and Dana? It seems like Anderson gives a polite response, but do you feel tension
Starting point is 00:32:05 behind there yeah there's tension for sure I mean the way he explained it I think you have the quote um he sort of explains it as well no it's you know it's a small thing it's an important thing but it's a small thing but I don't know like don't you get the sense that there's I won't say he's seething with resentment that's not quite right but he definitely feels it almost it all i can't speak for him but it feels like he has more anger than he does yes happiness towards dana it's hard for him to talk about dana without saying something in the order of like well but, but this, you know. By the way, did you love, I loved, when he misappropriated the pronouns in English when he was talking to us,
Starting point is 00:32:52 and he's like, Jake and your brother. And he kept saying to us, your brother, talking about Logan, but he just, it was so cute, Luke. It was cute. I don't understand. What was he supposed to say? He kept saying, he wanted to say Jake and Logan, like Jake and his brother, but instead he kept saying, he would look at you and go jake and your brother you know and i'm like so he would instead of saying his brother yeah i'm like luke's brother he don't give a damn about us
Starting point is 00:33:12 you know let's be fair all right well here's the quote to ariel here luke he's probably a nice guy though your brother probably he's a nice guy yeah he's decent uh quote in this case i don't think ufc is wrong or dana is wrong dana tried to do your job and the ufc gives you a job the problem is the fighters when they go inside and sign the contract you already signed the contract you don't have a chance to change except when the contract is done my personal opinion of course the ufc can pay the fighters better especially a couple of fighters doing something very very incredible inside ufc and make the UFC name strong and powerful. Make more respect for the brand.
Starting point is 00:33:47 But everything is about talk to your manager, have a good thing behind you to protect you so you don't sign something you don't like in the future. A lot of very talented fighters sign something very crazy because the manager doesn't take care of the fighters. It's only about numbers and money. And that's the problem. Luke, I got more of his quotes on dana but i wanted to halt there because he brings up the manager do you think this is a bigger issue
Starting point is 00:34:09 than we necessarily talk about and maybe then the overall narrative is in the fighter pay battle we always look at it as the evil empire darth vader dana hunter campbell and you know keeping away because of the draconian contracts and the control they have. But Anderson's basically saying, look, like it's also up to the managers. And Luke, do we hear from time to time that certain managers get accused of getting too close to UFC brass and ultimately end up serving the promotion more than the fighters? Do you find that to be an accurate narrative? And do you believe Anderson's leaning in that direction?
Starting point is 00:34:48 I've definitely have found that in my judgment, the most reliable and successful managers are not the ones with a ton of clients with UFC. That's where the problem seems to happen. As far as I can tell now, not in every case and not necessarily in every similar kind of way, but you'll see some of the bigger fighters have managers that maybe have like a few people. These are the ones that don't seem to be nearly as beholden to the realities of being a manager in the space,
Starting point is 00:35:13 which is if you've got a lot of clients, and none of them are necessarily A-list, or you only have a couple of them that are A-list, but you've got a lot that are B, C, and D, you end up having the situation where they have to maintain a positive relationship with ufc like they feel like they do in order to for this dynamic to be beneficial for them like they have to kind of do the ufc a solid in order for those rewards to be returned eventually um i'm sure that's an oversimplification in a few ways but that that seems to be um
Starting point is 00:35:43 something of a of the challenge and like you know you can seems to be something of the challenge. And you can listen to the work of John Nash where he's like, you can look at the pay numbers and it just doesn't appear to be all that clear that the managers make any significant contribution to a rise in pay. It seems to happen formulaically. And so a lot of times the managers go back to their fighters and like, look at this raise I got you, but that was a raise that was going to happen anyway. And yeah, I definitely do think that there are managers who are in bed with UFC and, um, you know, I don't think they're trying to screw their clients
Starting point is 00:36:13 exactly, but they probably feel like what is most important is that I maintain this relationship with this behemoth in the industry and then try to get my clients to work inside of that space versus going white knuckle with them. But the reality is if you change the industry by virtue of having the ali act or a union a huge portion of this would be would be not fixed but alleviated let's say overnight right it's interesting it's interesting debate because we used to debate the opposite of that when we look at remember nick khan who's of course running WWE now, but he was such a super agent with CAA that they used to make jokes
Starting point is 00:36:48 that he's essentially running in ESPN from the inside out and able to leverage for some of his smaller clients, big opportunities by using the leverage that his bigger clients have already had with the company. It almost seems the opposite here where maybe some of these super managers are allowed to keep themselves afloat by keeping UFC happy. And to Anderson's point, is that doing enough individually? Anderson went on to say other quotes where he said,
Starting point is 00:37:14 the fighters shouldn't have to worry about this. You should have a manager who completely has your back and handles this for you. Is that always the case? I think it's worth further investigation, but here's the other specific bombshell quote, if you will, that Anderson gave about his specific problem with Dana White. Quote, my problem with Dana is when he talks about fights because Dana has never fought MMA in his life. That's my problem. When he talks about you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Don't do that. You don't fight correctly. No, no, no. That's my only problem with Dana. I think Dana is a good person. Everybody talks about Dana saying he's not good blah blah blah but he's a good person and he's a good businessman ufc doesn't get to this point now as a big big company in the world if the people think i did something i'm sorry fighters i did something incorrect no the company grew up because of hustlers doing something and that's the the game. You're inside or you're not.
Starting point is 00:38:06 You can sign or you can not sign. You can go anywhere. But when you sign, you make a deal with my company. You can't say nothing because why did you sign? You signed the contract. You have a contract. Oh, no, let me out of the contract. You signed the contract. Okay, I'm babbling here in Anderson speak.
Starting point is 00:38:19 But the crux of this, Luke, is he's basically saying, once they've got you, they've got you and there's not much you can do but he's getting pretty sick of dana talking shit about fighters when he thinks dana hasn't proven himself in the cage i don't think anderson's watched the training footage of dana for that aborted boxing match with tito ortiz luke where dana said he willingly took on potential cte to try to win that grudge match that never happened is there a point though to what andy's hey, bro, stop talking shit if you ain't done it.
Starting point is 00:38:48 That's what people say to me, Luke. They say, not really. What I would say is that if you're going to speak about fights, you have a responsibility to, you know, to have as informed a judgment as you can, which, of course, you know, every all of us will be fallible and we'll all say crazy things and make mistakes and whatnot. But fighters are not entitled to the comfort of the only analysis coming from their peers. Nobody is not, not fighters, not, I mean, I'm not entitled to that. Neither are you. No one is. They, they want to insulate themselves from criticism because they
Starting point is 00:39:24 are inherently extremely sensitive, which I understand is a occupational necessity or certainly a reality in many ways. I accept that. I understand that. I do think if you're going to have a role like you or like me, some deference has to be paid to that a little bit for sure. You gotta,
Starting point is 00:39:38 you gotta work with that, but they're not entitled to the kind of criticism or evaluation that they find acceptable. That's outrageous to me, and of all the things you could say about Dana White, that is about the least credible thing I could ever care about. Well, Anderson went on to essentially say what we would assume he would say, that when you sign the contract, you have no freedom to do what you want, but now he's not a UFC fighter. He has the freedom. He can box Jake. He can do other things.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I'm trying to wonder what Anderson is looking for. I mean, we just read a whole bunch of quotes. What's the crux, you think, at the end of the day of his issue? That he wasn't given, like, Muhammad Ali exit treatment, that you, sir, are truly one of the pillars of the UFC success today? And you could argue that's a hundred. I mean, he's in the GOAT conversation. He's been one of the most must-see fighters
Starting point is 00:40:26 in the totality of his reign. What is he actually looking for that he didn't get on the way out, you think? Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's any one thing. I mean, he kind of makes it sound that way a little bit, but I don't buy that. I'm with you. I think it's a suite of things.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I just feel like, yeah, the UFC got the exit wrong and I'm not saying intentionally I don't think they tried to screw him or something like that but they could have done a better job and I think they probably feel that way in hindsight anyway but the but the piece to me it just seems like is I just feel like they these guys and it goes back to the criticism thing like you're not entitled to comforting analysis and you're not entitled to the only analysis that is that your peers can give you. Like this, this is absurd. But I do feel like what is the like, what's the common denominator here? The common denominator feels is like, I think he feels like he wasn't just taken care of.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Right. Maybe the pay was good. Maybe it wasn't. Could have been a little bit more. Maybe the exit was not as good as it could have been. Maybe some more. Maybe the exit was not as good as it could have been. Maybe some of the things Dana said were not as nice as they could have been. And all these little things add up into this general sense that he wasn't as, not protected per se, but he wasn't as, there wasn't enough, there wasn't fine enough of a touch on the way things were handled with him in a series of either incidents or just sort of moments or whatever the case may be in this in this situation
Starting point is 00:41:53 it just feels like there could have been a few more t's crossed a few more eyes dotted a little bit more empathy or sympathy handed out right in a couple of ways along and those pieces were missed and they seem to have like really stuck out in the mind of anderson for good or for bad you can make the judgment call who's to say bc i don't know how you feel about it does that sound like a plausible theory to you yeah i mean look in in dana's favor don't forget anderson got popped for drugs and you know he had big injuries during that long losing streak. And when you lose that many in succession, it's hard to have job security, even though a lot of those losses are weird circumstances or, hey, Anderson looked very good,
Starting point is 00:42:34 could have got the win against Bisping, you get my point. But as we always talked about, they were feeding him to Kananir and Brunson in fights that didn't make a lot of sense. I wonder if Anderson feels he should have been given still high multi-million dollar purses just to appear in his 40s and you know fun fight gsp fun fights against other legends that would have allowed him like i wonder if he still looks at himself luke realizes at 47 that he's still got a decent amount left that most 47 year olds shouldn't and wonder is if he should be still in a main or co-main event situation, given legendary respect.
Starting point is 00:43:07 That's what I wonder if the crux of it is, but I, whatever at the end of the day, the final piece on Anderson is this Luke, you know, I've made a bunch of mythical matchup ideas on this show that have, you know, tasted to you either like a really gross gas station,
Starting point is 00:43:21 hot dog, or maybe a pig with a little bit of lipstick on those lips how about this from ariel helwani yesterday on twitter scott coker just told us that he called anderson silva's rep a couple months ago and he offered a fight against fedor emilianenko no real talks then but now that silva said he wants one more MMA fight in Japan Scott is going to reach back out Luke somebody on this show said that's the ultimate old guy fight that old Uncle Scott should be chasing from day one this has me fired up in the loins Luke you probably not well you don't have many W's but when you get one you don't let the world forget about it do you yo jake paul's girlfriend
Starting point is 00:44:07 follows me on twitter everybody bow down i mean she does you know check check the receipts i hope she still does she certainly does good for you um yeah you know what at this point i don't hate it so much um of all the fights you could possibly do or make or directions you could go at this stage remember they tried to force the old junior dos santos thing at eagle fc and that just kind of Of all the fights you could possibly do or make or directions you could go at this stage, remember they tried to force the old Junior Dos Santos thing at Eagle FC, and that just kind of blew up. Yeah, I suppose that that is on the table, and I suppose that with all the standard disclaimers that one could put in there, I'm not even going to read them off, just put them on there. Given those disclaimers and everything else, I don hate it i don't hate it at all that would
Starting point is 00:44:48 be a bad idea an ultimate bushido fight with like two of the purest og legends in terms of what's right about the sport it would be such an interesting different weight division matchup similar to dan hendo versus fedor and strikeforce a whole hell of a long time ago. I can't believe we're still here talking about Fedor, by the way, a decade later, but we are. And yeah, I'm here for that. So please, Scott Coker, do that. If it's in Japan, send me. All right, I'll call the fights.
Starting point is 00:45:16 All right? I'll sit next to Big John. Please. I want to see this shit. Luke, topic number three is sure to make people groan, but look, it happened in the media this week. Floyd Mayweather is going to be back in a boxing exhibition that we'll mention in a little bit, but part of the build-up media-wise was Floyd telling anyone who will listen
Starting point is 00:45:31 that talks are ongoing about a 2023 boxing rematch with Conor McGregor. Now, right away, you get a knee-jerk groan from most people knowing Conor's current UFC contract situation and the fact that dana white would have to be involved in this to make it work dana's shat on the idea
Starting point is 00:45:50 left and right uh floyd told the media that the only hiccup is that he wants an exhibition connor wants an actual fight well connor doesn't seem to want either because he posted on ig the hashtag not interested with a picture of the two of them. And then he put out a tweet that's now been deleted. That was a reply to Floyd saying. Bro, who deletes more tweets? John Jones or Conor McGregor? Honestly, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah, wow. So Floyd tweeted out that he's expected to make 15 to 20 million on Saturday. Conor said, quote, he also said he made 100 million to spar the logan guy yet never made the forbes list top 100 he hasn't cleared 20 million in one full year since 2017 when we fought the last time otherwise he'd have been on that list he hasn't made the list since 2017 so in other words he's full of shit end quote look i know you don't care about this luke but he's kind of right he i mean he might be right but here's the point about this fight like the first time they fought it was unfathomable that two guys could meet in this way from
Starting point is 00:46:59 different sports inside of one of the other guys sport what would it you know and obviously if you're combat sports literate you had a basic idea of what would happen like there'd be no way Floyd would really lose but you know you were wanting to see the weirdness you wanted to see the unusualness and for the casual fans like what would it look like what would it be how's it going to go it's crazy can Connor pull up the upset now everyone kind of knows Connor stock has declined Floyd is you know not nearly the boxing. I mean, he's obviously still very involved in boxing, but, you know, he's fighting Logan Paul and
Starting point is 00:47:30 donks in Japan. Like, he's just doing the old man bit at this point. He's not nearly as relevant as a figure, as a prize fighter, as he was certainly during that time, right? The Floyd, right? The messy Ronaldo era of soccer is basically over. The Floyd Manny's era of boxing is over as well. Although Manny's taking an exhibition fight coming up too. So what would be the value in seeing it a second time? The first one wasn't bad, but the whole thing was this notion of suspense and unpredictability. And what would it be? Well, you got to see what it was.
Starting point is 00:48:02 He got marched down and beaten up. What are you going to sell him on the second time around i just don't even understand what the appeal would be which isn't to say it wouldn't make money or whatever but it just seems bizarre to me a little bit yeah it seems like floyd might realize within himself that that's the last giant money fight he can make it would have to be you know as close to a real fight as possible meaning he's not going to be sparring a younger kickboxer three divisions lower i mean it's a connor who can still throw his hands although to your point the brand is damaged and you know he needs to win badly in the ufc to revive that but i wonder if floyd at 45 is saying himself if i've got to fight one more time, a real fight,
Starting point is 00:48:46 and that Logan fight was weird, and Floyd, I think, didn't expect to have to navigate it the way he did. I wonder if Floyd thinks this is it. But even that could be a trap fight for him, because of his age. You never know, okay? But to your point, it's hard to get amped up for it
Starting point is 00:49:01 unless one or both of them is sort of riding a certain level of momentum or you hate Floyd so much that you're like, now we'll finally see him lose. It's enough. Enough of that BS. Speaking of BS, Luke, topic four is our Boxing Weekend Preview. Floyd's back Saturday on pay-per-view, integrated sports independent pay-per-view from Saitama, Japan. Your main event, Floyd Mayweather versus Makuru Asakura. A three-round junior middleweight exhibition. If those are the last words I say about this match, Luke, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Do you have any words to add? Do you care? You're vaping, so apparently not. You just saw my level of care. I do care about Shakur shaker stevenson and conce zhao i don't care so much about joyce parker uh amanda serrano should okay well i didn't ask you about them luke i didn't ask you about them i'm just going over the slate i'm just going over the okay we're not there yet i i don't get what you're doing right now just trying to throw shade at my
Starting point is 00:50:01 sport what because triple g didn't entertain us fuck them all right hey i like boxing just fine it's a great sport i'm not like one of the haters on our audiences i like boxing but this weekend you know it's not it's not a showcase uh of its best let's put it that way all right well floyd's gonna box whether we like it or not i don't know enough about the other guy luke it seems like he's much smaller in weight but let's not forget that uh remember that last exhibition he did the guy took it really seriously what was that guy's name tension nasakawa oh tension nasakawa yeah who's a good fighter um yeah he was crying afterwards he was like going for it floyd sent him to hell floyd did something i didn't think he was gonna do which was you know i thought floyd was just gonna go in there and horse around with him and floyd just fucking took it to him so yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:50:43 i suppose that's possible but like what kind of state is floyd in like floyd's not out of shape or whatever but he's not like i don't know man the whole thing is i don't like you know we i don't know if you put on the rundown or not i wasn't on there yesterday but like trailer saying oh we're gonna come back and they're gonna have roberto duran on the card yo i saw roberto duran a few years ago in panama my man wasn't exactly in fight shape let's be quite honest about that i mean what he's like in his 60s or 70s i think they're probably thinking about him in like a you know exhibition where he comes out and riles up the fans but look they had jose luis castillo on there who shouldn't be anywhere near a damn ring at this point in the you know the sons of tommy nobody care trailer go
Starting point is 00:51:18 away please thank you luke interesting boxing fight tonight on espn that got more interesting by shaker stevenson one of my 10 for top 10 pound for pound fighters in the game and really the guy Luke, interesting boxing fight tonight on ESPN that got more interesting by Shakur Stevenson, one of my top 10 pound-for-pound fighters in the game, and really the guy who I believe has next in this entire sport. He's still going to face Ropeson. Yes, that's how they say it. Cancésal from Brazil, a three-time Olympian, a 2016 gold medalist. But only Cancésal can win the WBC and WBO junior lightweight titles.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Shakur Stevenson missed weight by a pound and a half, more or less, did not attempt to pull the boxers down or try to make it after the break. In fact, his quote over Twitter was, I gave it my all. I've been professional my whole career and made weight, but my body just can't make 130 anymore. My health has to come first. I'm moving up to 135 in my next fight.
Starting point is 00:52:06 End quote. Luke Stevenson was already, according to reports, going to move up to 135. But even with how bad this looks, although let's try to frame it. He's what, 24 years old? I mean, when boxers are young, sometimes your body forces you out of the weight class. It happens. All these young guys around lightweight are going to end up being welterweights in their prime. That's just what's going to happen. This is still an interesting fight. Can Seisal fought Oscar Valdez, who Shakur Stevenson unified titles against?
Starting point is 00:52:33 And you could argue in that fight, Luke really gave a great showing of himself in his only pro loss. I am still interested in seeing this fight because I know how great Shakur is and because I want to see him tomorrow against the top lightweights, whether that's Haney,aney Lomachenko you can keep going on and on Tank Davis Ryan Garcia whoever um does the missing of weight in your eyes stain Shakur at all or
Starting point is 00:52:56 stain the potential entertainment value in tonight's fight it's a good question I do think it's a little bit of a bad look. Now listen, if you've not seen Shakur Stevenson, let me tell you what is my best read on him. Get groceries delivered across the GTA from Real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Visit superstore.ca to get started my best read is that he is an extraordinary talent i mean an extraordinary talent he has just lightning precision his distance management is is unbelievable his accuracy let's be very clear about this he is a much better boxer than Konsei Sao much better boxer he's much better boxer than anyone else at 130 as far as I can tell but dude to just fucking punt your titles on the scale that's low budget shit that's like that's not a great look to begin with and just like the nonchalance about it that he had oh i tried listen i'm not saying he should have tried harder only to drain himself to give conseil a chance but i just don't buy that
Starting point is 00:54:11 like that was every effort i could have made to make the way i just don't believe that i don't believe that to me it's like i'm not gonna i don't think he's gonna lose this bout but i don't think the bout's gonna necessarily be all that entertaining there's nothing Conce Sal does supremely well there's a lot that Stevenson does supremely well but as we all know the knock on Stevenson is he doesn't have big power so I expect him to like just kind of dummy Conce Sal for basically 12 rounds and then to just you know kind of punt your titles like that on the scales dude a champion should never ever lose his in this case two belts should never lose his belt or belts on the scales in this kind of a way even if you are uh i'm glad i will say this i'm glad he's making the recognition that this is no longer an appropriate weight class for
Starting point is 00:54:58 him and he wants to go to 135 these things should still be done in a professional way like what is the excuse for unprofessional not making weight is unprofessional period it's not it's not professional so to to not make weight and to just be like ah fuck it you can have my titles it is what it is i don't get i don't get a great vibe if the if the youth are watching i don't get good vibes from that kind of a thing no it's not a great look but it does happen when fighters are young. I get your point, though. I didn't necessarily love the body language, the reaction. I didn't love that the announcer didn't even tell the crowd he missed weight. They sort of ho-hummed it and then still had them face off.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And it kind of spoiled the excitement I did have for this fight because, look, Cancés is so sneaky good. He has that amateur background, tough as nails. I think the only problem with him is he's not active enough in the rings and tends to look at his shots too often and admire them. But Stevenson got in his face in the post-press conference face-off. He's like, I'm going to fuck you up. He said it to him over and over
Starting point is 00:55:52 again. Now he's got a little bit of some of that villain heat on him that he's going to have to turn back. I mean, he was going anyway. I've got a lot of people in my DMs. MK superfan Jeff Call wants to tear this guy down and say he didn't even try. Look at his body fat percentage. He didn't even try to make weight. That may have been the case at the
Starting point is 00:56:07 end of the day, Luke, but he is going to have to forfeit part of his salary. Still going to get the opportunity tonight. I think it's 9pm Eastern is that main card start. But Luke, maybe I'm covering up, in a way, any potential disappointment because I want to see this guy now at lightweight.
Starting point is 00:56:24 And he's going to move there anyway, so dude, I want to see this guy now at lightweight. And he's, he was going to move there anyway. So dude, I want to find out how great he can be Luke. Cause this is a special one. This is why I talked to Devin Haney yesterday. He was got that rematch with the Cambosis coming up next month.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And you know, he was like, look, Shakur is one of the best talents in this entire sport. If he's coming up to lightweight next, like, you know, come on,
Starting point is 00:56:40 let's go. Although Haney would prefer Lomachenko next. I mean, the idea that Shakur can now take on this level of challenge at 135, dude, this is my Super Bowl, brother, okay? This is what I do. Listen, you can say that he was unprofessional yesterday, and he was. And by the way, Keith Eideck, I think, is he of Boxing Scene?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah, Boxing Scene, yeah. Yeah, Keith Eideck of Boxing Scene was writing that, like, you know, usually after someone misses weight, there's like a relatively quick negotiation in the back about finding and how much of the person will allow to you know take the fight based on like you do you have to cut a couple more pounds or not and how much money to give and this went on for hours after the fight which is unusual Kce sal wanting some more money i think he got some so good for him he deserved it but like listen he is shaker stevenson is one of boxing's preeminent talents to just make no mistake about it but it's unprofessional low rent shit to just punt your
Starting point is 00:57:39 titles on the scales like that if you want to move up to another weight class i applaud him i i recognize that it's important do it you got to do it the right way man this was this was not this was not awesome from him and we got to have same energy if we if we came after tramayev for for his own weight disappointments even with the now granted tramayev missed by a fucking million miles yeah but still maybe tramayev could have talked to people earlier in the week and said, might not make it this week, but we'll see. Take notice of that co-main event. Keyshawn Davis, 7-0, U.S. Olympian, is another guy that a lot of people are talking about that could be one of those next big things.
Starting point is 00:58:14 He's facing an eight-round lightweight bout against Omar Tienda. Not a household name, but a guy's got experience and a tough out. Be on the lookout for Keyshawn Davis on his rise. Luke, Saturday on ESPN Plus from Manchester, England. experience and a tough out be on the lookout for key sean davis on his rise luke saturday on espn plus from manchester england so i know you're not hyped for this but a lot of our mk uk fans are it's a big deal out there when joe joyce the juggernaut the unbeaten heavyweight who stopped daniel dubois and their big crossroad showdown he's going to face former world champion joseph parker now the secondary trinket of the WBO interim heavyweight title is at stake,
Starting point is 00:58:47 but really what that means here is the winner is going to be in the conversation for a title shot, even with the log jam atop the division with Usyk and Fury right now. Luke, Joseph Parker is much more talented and skilled than Joe Joyce, but Joyce can bang. He's slow and plodding. He's aggressive joyce can bang he's slow and plotting he's aggressive he's he's sturdy um you don't seem to care here at all luke i've been following the build-up
Starting point is 00:59:13 they've been talking that jay against one another i've never been a big believer in joe joyce's upper bound limits as we say he's also you know in his mid to late 30s at this point but this is put up or shut up this is his moment to find out if he's got the goods i almost want to flip it back and say how much you think joseph parker has left like he hasn't done anything massive since surrendering surrendering his titles to anthony joshua and their unification but he's also you know lingered in and won some fights together is really you don't believe in either guy is that your lack of interest in this fight um i think that there might be a i so what do you want to say here um i think i think parker could make joyce work i do think that's possible i think
Starting point is 01:00:01 you could actually get a decent fight out of this if that's what you're talking about. But, like, dude, the gap between guys like this and then the top of the division is fucking massive. Yeah. Massive. And so it's not that I don't think that there's any value to the fight on its own terms, especially if you're a UK fan, because this seems to be, like, a little bit more obvious.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Obviously, it's a lot more of a UK special in that way, you know? So that's fine. Like I'm not here, I'm not here to talk anybody out of it, but do these, let me ask you genuinely, do these guys excite you?
Starting point is 01:00:36 Like Shakur Stevenson's not a huge power puncher, for example, but his, the sharpness of the detail in what he can do is out of this world. I mean, it's really next level. These dudes are not that. They're not that at all. Joyce is 37, Luke.
Starting point is 01:00:55 He is 14-0 with 13 knockouts. I'll give him respect for stopping Carlos Tackham. He beat Brian Jennings. Yes. He won the aforementioned Dubois fight. But Parker, to me, at 30-2, the the record is on another level. He's still only 30 from New Zealand. Don't forget, Luke, when he was champion, he had a Burger King sponsorship in New Zealand. The ring had a massive Burger
Starting point is 01:01:12 King logo. That's so cheesy awesome that I can't not get behind it. He's won tough fights against Derek Chisora twice and put together a couple wins despite getting sent to hell by Dillian White. Do I think either guy is a threat to win back a title? Not against the guys we have at the top at the moment, no.
Starting point is 01:01:28 But I'm going to be taking notice of this fight. I'll tell you what happens on it. Luke, co-main event Amanda Serrano, who did not get the Jake Paul opportunity on the Rockman undercard, will be defending her trio of featherweight titles against Sarah Mahfoud. Or is this a unification? I'm sorry. She brings two world titles. Sarah brings
Starting point is 01:01:44 one. Three of the four belts at Featherweight on the line when Serrano gets back in there. First fight, I believe, since losing that all-time thriller there to Katie Taylor. Are we building toward a rematch there for next year, Luke? Is that your thought? Yeah, I mean, Sarah Mahfoud is, according to our friends at Caesars, a plus 1,000 underdog.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Amanda Serrano, minus 2 minus 2100 this is some stay busy shit uh i know it's i know it's technically on paper more than that but in terms of what it actually means for amanda serrano it's more or less that so yes like dude there's listen man there's no way they don't do a rematch with katie taylor and amanda serrano now when they do it and where they do it and at what weight they do it, all of that remains to be seen. Fair enough. And I know Katie Taylor had a fight announced.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I think you indicated that there was a big announcement this week for her next return to the ring. But this is not, this is just, you know, hey, let's stay busy and make some bread and get some more experience. And that's it. Okay. Katie Taylor is going to be fighting this fall against the opponent that I believe that Serrano was supposed to fight on the Rockman undercard.
Starting point is 01:02:56 But if we can build to that to next year, look, the first one exceeded expectations. And really, I mean, the, the, it was built up as the biggest fight in women's history and it lived up to that. I mean, it was awesome up as the biggest fight in women's history. And it lived up to that.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I mean, it was awesome. That was awesome. Let's do it a second time. Finally, in the Boxing Weekend, Luke Sunday from Curitiba, Brazil. You can pick this fight up on the Fight app. Chris Cyborg going to make that pro boxing debut. Ten rounds, junior middleweights against MMA fighter, also from Brazil, Simone Da Silva. Now, Da Silva has lost
Starting point is 01:03:26 her last three mixed martial arts fights. She's 8-4 in MMA, and of note, Luke, she got knocked out in 2017 in the first round by Zhang Weili under the Kun Lun Fight MMA banner. Kun Lun, I think. Kun Lun, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Risen, rising, I'm here either way. Your interest level in Chris Cyborg stretching out a little. Happy for her. I hope she gets some good money from it as a boxing event to watch. I won't. All right. In that co-main event, it's an exhibition. He's old.
Starting point is 01:04:03 He's pushing 50. But, Luke look do you remember osselino popo freitas from brazil great fighter about 15 20 years ago in the you know featherweight area um spectacular spectacular fighter knockout artist but look do you know why his nickname is popo uh i don't in brazil that's, apparently, of a boy nursing on his mother's nipple. And Asolino and his siblings did that until they were 13. Luke, this is not BC getting weird and making shit up. All right?
Starting point is 01:04:38 He was breastfed until he was 13? Well, that's weird, first of all. And his fight nickname is the sound it makes when a 13 year old is still getting breastfed shouldn't they all just be in jail just all of them just the whole thing thank you all right just put him in jail i mean what are we doing transitioning to topic by the way hold on you didn't say he's's taking on Jose Landy Johns, who is like a fucking Valle Tuto legend. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Dude, Jose Landy has fought like, I think he fought Chuck Liddell. He fought a bunch of fucking guys. He's one of the pioneers from Brazil in Valle Tuto. Yeah, dude, that's a boxer versus like, kind of like an MMA guy match. Absolutely. I'll be looking for it, Luke.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Sunday, be there. Finally, topic five is our quick hitters. Let's start here, Luke. So this is a little peculiar. There's a video out there of Bellator CEO Scott Coker talking to BBC Sport about Nate Diaz. He says, quote, well, we are definitely talking to him. We've reached out,
Starting point is 01:05:40 and I know he's probably talking to everybody. He's, I think, in a pretty good situation. I know he wants to fight Jake Paul. Jake's Paul is fighting, in a pretty good situation. I know he wants to fight Jake Paul. Jake's Paul is fighting, Jake Paul, excuse me, is fighting Anderson Silva on Showtime, pay-per-view, which is our home network. So there's some synergies there. Luke, then Ariel Hawani went on to tweet that like,
Starting point is 01:05:56 don't believe the rumors you're hearing about that because Nate is still under this three-month window clause where he's legally not allowed to negotiate with anybody so apparently that didn't happen or that shouldn't have happened dude scott coker is literally out there just saying things and here's the best part about it here's why he did it uh by the way did true or false did i not indicate that this was true to you 48 hours ago when we had a conversation yeah you're like you're like they're not talking to nate at all right so i had i i spoke to some folks in the industry and that's my understanding as well that for the first time i think of the moderate contracts the ufc decided to activate
Starting point is 01:06:34 the 90 day it's where they have so the way his contract works is there's a 90 day exclusive negotiating period where he can literally talk to nobody else, which is why if you look at Ariel Helwani's tweet, it says it's illegal. He's right. He's 100% right. And then there's the year-long portion where they could match anyone. The question you have to ask yourself first is, why would Nate be the first guy ever for the UFC to invoke this clause? And B, does it really mean they might try to match him for a year so that he can't go anywhere else? They might, they might. It's certainly kind of interesting. That's the first thing I'd say. Dude, that opens up a giant can of worms potentially. Right. Dude. And here's the thing. UFC hasn't activated this with anybody else,
Starting point is 01:07:21 but I remember, for example, a very different situation situation but it's a point I want to make I you haven't seen UFC go white knuckle with one of their guys they're beefing with but I lived through Couture saying he was retiring from his UFC contract and at the time trying to go to HD net so he could fight Fedor and dude when the UFC goes white knuckle they go fucking white knuckle They won that whole thing pretty cleanly, even though it took a little while for it to all get worked out. So we haven't seen that in a long time. Is that around the corner? And if so, what will that mean?
Starting point is 01:07:53 There's a huge can of worms. But as it relates to like with Scott Coker, here's why he said that. I mean, I haven't talked to Scott, so I don't know. But dude, MMA media will print anything. They will fucking print anything. All you have to do is be like, yo, X famous relevant person said the moon is made of green cheese.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Fucking the moon is made of green cheese. They'll just reprint the shit everywhere they go. So that's why he, why wouldn't you say it? Even if you're not even remotely involved in negotiations, I don't know what the actual state of things are. Again, Nate is under contract with you with UFC still in this 90-day period.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Even if that's 1,000% untrue, why would you not say it? They're just going to reprint, like fucking stenographers, everything you say, and sure enough, they did. Amazing. Amazing. If you're not benefiting from the Dana White privilege, Luke, you're going to get the Dana White knuckle. You know what I'm saying? The moose knuckle. You're going to get it, all right? You know what I'm saying, Luke? you're going to get the Dana White knuckle. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:08:45 The moose knuckle. You're going to get it, all right? You know what I'm saying, Luke? You're going to get the Dana. What's the Dana? Let's walk this little joke of yours through. What is the Dana White moose knuckle? Please tell me, BC.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I would love to know. You can do the math there, Luke. You and I had that talk. I'm trying to clean this show up, okay? All right. All right. Nate would go on to tweet Wednesday, I'm only going to fight The Rock.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Otherwise, I'm good. Is he talking about Dwayne Johnson or is he talking about recreational drugs, Luke? I was wondering where you were going to go because you knew the answer was Dwayne Johnson. I was like, what other rock could he go to? Oh, drugs. Oh, you know where I come from, Luke.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Either you're slinging crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot. Luke, let's go to the more quick hitters. Chuck Liddell's wife unfortunately claims he has CTE. This is according to court documents obtained by The Blast from their divorce, which was filed by Liddell three days after he was charged for misdemeanor domestic battery. Luke, anytime this stuff is coming out in the midst of a heated divorce, emotions are high and you have to take that with a grain of salt. But Chuck Liddell also has been through the wars.
Starting point is 01:09:56 I wouldn't be surprised. It's sad. It's a sad reality of this game. How do you how do you feel this news? Well, part of this is through, I think, divorce proceedings. And, you know, as the child of this is through i think divorce proceedings and um you know as the child of parents who had what can only be described as one of the most contentious divorces i've ever seen like literally i was thinking about this i know a bunch of people
Starting point is 01:10:13 whose parents also got divorced and their situation wasn't nearly as terrible as the one i went through so uh having seen that what i can tell you is either side will say a bunch of shit to damage the other side for any number of reasons, monetary reasons, custody, who the fuck knows, right? So let's just take with a grain of salt anything that's being said in either direction first. Second, I would also caution CTE is something that as it stands medically today is only diagnosed after death now you can obviously exhibit signs that give medical uh professionals strong reason to believe you could have it but it's only really diagnosable in that sense once the brain has been evaluated um after they've expired so we don't actually know if he's got it but let's also just be real for a second dude Chuck Liddell took a fucking mountain of damage and took a mountain of damage long past the point where he shouldn't like
Starting point is 01:11:11 honestly after the Rashad fight he probably should have called it a quits and by the time the Rashad fight happened it told you he was in really really really really bad shape so um to me it's like impossible to imagine a scenario where he hasn't suffered significant brain trauma, how far it actually has gone, and then what real-world consequences there are. Remember, this is the middle of a divorce proceeding or some kind of custody battle or two know two people who are not in alignment with their interests together about a life so you need to be careful about what people are saying but the idea that like chuck could just do what he did in his career and his brain would more or less be okay seems utterly absurd of like of course he's going to be dealing with very serious consequences the specific nature of them i guess we'll have to see over time yeah the rashad ko loss was the first and four
Starting point is 01:12:10 consecutive to end his career uh well it was shogun and rich franklin and they retired and then eight years later luke i mean do you remember the tito fight he just had though the get the golden boy thing i mean just epically awful awful in every way yeah and the rashad fight was three and four fights when you consider the uh rampage knockout loss and the uh the loss to keith jardine which was a sneaky good fight right keith jardine and chuck that was not bad yes and you know and also chuck hurt jardine a little bit i think and uh the rampage one that was like prime rampage or like pretty close to prime rampage so i didn't mind him losing that one that was like hey that is what it is but dude after rashad shut the lights off in atlanta it was time uh look
Starting point is 01:12:51 kevin holland is possibly cryptically shutting the lights off on his career here's a ig post he put out that said quote had a good run 30 in a little over a month, got paid, I'm out, next career move, dot, dot, dot. So he's saying he got paid for the Chermayev step up, which, you know, Dana said he didn't, but let's see who we believe. He's not talking about, he's not, he's not, he's just, what is he doing, Luke? Is this some Tyson Fury bullshit? What is he doing? I don't, I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I don't, I mean, did he, listen, I'm sure that, you know, all those guys who, the six fighters who switched their whole shit up prior to, after the weigh-ins of UFC 279, I'm sure they had UFC by the balls and they were able to make, you know, some money from that. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:13:39 But was it really like, I can retire money? I'm skeptical of that. I guess everyone's got different medical, or I should say different financial goals. And I'm sure, again, I'm sure he got paid quite handsomely. But I don't know. That seems a little weird to me. I mean, he's still got a lot of fight left in him,
Starting point is 01:13:57 from what I can tell. So I don't believe it. I'll just put that out. I don't actually think he's done fighting. Is this a leverage thing? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know I don't actually think he's done fighting. Is this a leverage thing? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Maybe, maybe, maybe he just, you know, who knows having a good day, feeling pretty good. Look at his bank account thinking, do I really want to keep doing this bullshit?
Starting point is 01:14:13 Like I understand that too. What was McGregor's favorite McGregor's famous tweet after the, thanks for the cheese. See you later. Yeah. I'm out. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:22 He made, he made like good money. Actor Tom Hardy is making the headlines here in the combat game. The Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Blue Belt just won his third straight BJJ tournament in a month. This most recent one, I think, was coming overseas. You care about this at all? This is pretty cool, right? I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I mean, the one thing i don't like is when everyone was like blowing mark zuckerberg for training like a goof with some actual other fighter and everyone's like oh i love this guy you fucking hypocrite losers go fuck yourself every one of you berates me about how much you can't stand tech oligarchs running over our life and then one of them shows moderate interest in the sport oh this is great you're a hypocrite loser with zero principles whatsoever so that guy tom hardy on the other hand seems like a great dude i welcome him i think it's cool the only thing i would just slow people's role a little bit is it's great that he's doing it he obviously seems to be pretty talented but you know if you go to a gym like people who compete they go every weekend to like places all
Starting point is 01:15:25 around the like the their area you know if you compete on those kinds of schedules like they come like find anyone who is like oh i train jujitsu all the time and then they compete they get gold medals all the time like it's not i don't mean to say it's a participation trophy because it's not he does show some ability but it's not participation trophy because it's not. He does show some ability, but it's not like he's out there winning ADCC. I just want to be clear about that a little bit. Okay. He's 45 years old, Luke. He's from London.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Do you have a favorite Tom Hardy acting role up to this point? Oh, you're a big Blackhawk down guy, right? That's a great question. Well, he was good as Bane. That's what bigger role. Yeah. There was a movie. He was in warrior, which, which, you know, got a lot of fighting attention.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Of course. See, he was good in warrior. Cause he's a good actor. He's good in everything. But warrior is hella overrated. Um, okay. I don't remember the name of it and I'm not even saying it's his best one. Two of them, two of them two of
Starting point is 01:16:25 them there's one where he plays like brothers with some other uh london gangster and he was like band of brothers the hbo war drama no no no no no no he was like he was like uh he was like a like a like a mafioso guy but like london style i think it's even based on a true story um and he plays the more unhinged of the two brothers. And he's fucking awesome in it. There's another movie where he is this dude driving this whole time. You only ever see him in the car. That's the entire movie.
Starting point is 01:16:55 But he makes all of these phone calls because he ends up being a dude who knocked up some other girl. And he has to explain to his family and his job why he can't be with them because he has to go take care of this other girl and dude it sounds like it's a it is a weird movie but his acting in that I mean imagine how hard that is to pull off you got to be a guy driving in a car for an hour and a half talking about this shit like it's not easy to do I forget the name of the movie he kills it in that movie he's really really good he was in inception dunkirk he's been a lot of big big movies here luke yeah dude tom hardy is an excellent i he i am happy to welcome to the combat sports family but the rest of these fucks can you know um is there any chance mark zuckerberg becomes the next john dupont
Starting point is 01:17:42 yeah he's just gonna go shoot some other wrestler. We'll call him Snatch Catcher. How about that, Luke? All right. Okay, hold on. I want to get the name of it. He was in Venom. Venom is kind of stupid.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Oh, he was in The Revenant. He was good in that. Oh, dude, he was in Mad Max Fury Road. How am I forgetting that? Holy shit. That's a great one. He was also in Tinker Tailor, Spy, which is another good movie. Kind of slow, but good movie.
Starting point is 01:18:10 What is the name? He's in Wuthering Heights, which, of course, is based off the novel. I'm trying to remember the name of that where he's just on the phone the whole time. Yeah, maybe one of our producers can find it because they're on their phone the whole time, too, Luke. So maybe they can just look it up. That'd be great. All right. Let's keep this going here, Luke.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Quick hitters. Joe Rogan went public and said the language in his UFC contract reads that as soon as Dana White is done, so is Joe. Your reaction, Luke? Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, Joe's had the best. Joe's had serious question. People might think like Dana's had the best jobe's had serious question people might think like dane has
Starting point is 01:18:45 had the best job in mma but i don't think that's true because he has to deal with a lot of bullshit he's got long hours and there's travel it's like who has this is my question to you who has the best job in mma it's joe rogan he's had the best seat in the house you and i 20 plus years yeah joe rogan probably the best one yeah and he gets like a bus i love our job but we don't have the best job in mma like we don't um also he probably makes a little bit more than we do so there's that yeah um but yeah at least we know when push comes to shove we can take him in the low post luke okay that's fair right just dunk on on joe rogan yeah uh luke speaking of day and i had sent you that link yesterday.
Starting point is 01:19:26 He gave an interview in which he talked about that there's a super doctor that can do all these blood tests on you and predict. I saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Predict like to the month at how much time you have left. on Dana and he was told that he's effed up in every single category and that he's 53 right now Dana and that his life expectation is less than 10 years no I thought it was 10.4 years oh sorry 10.4 years yeah that's that's about right yeah yeah I mean I don't know who this guy is and how reliable that is but honestly would that surprise you I mean again I don't know what you don't know but he got that Meniere's disease which I think was exacerbated by his lifestyle folks
Starting point is 01:20:05 don't understand this anymore back in the aughts like right after the ultimate fighter hit before that too but really after that like when the demand for UFC began to skyrocket Dana White went everywhere he could every radio station every newspaper editorial board meeting every chamber of commerce whatever it, to plead the case for his company and for the sport. And he was flying everywhere. He was still promoting the events. This guy was living like the most inadvisable, for your long-term health anyway, the most inadvisable lifestyle possible. But of course, he was on a mission to promote the causes that he cared about. And it worked. Like, look at the state of the UFC.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Look at the state of MMA. Like, there's no denying that that push played a big role. But, dude, you took years off your life doing that. So, you know, I don't wish certainly bitter things upon him. I don't know how good this doctor is, but I'm not surprised to hear that. I got to be honest. Yeah, he always claims that the training camp for the Tito Ortiz fight that never happened took years off of his life because he wanted to do it legit.
Starting point is 01:21:07 So he brought in legit fighters and he said he got effed up like crazy. And yeah, that's that's interesting, Luke. If he went to Dr. Kvorki and he would have had about a 10 minute lifespan until the. All right, Luke, there's an injury to Cody Garbrandt, who was already looking for a new opponent after Hani Yaya fell out. So now UFC has outright canceled Garbrandt's return for UFC Fight Night 61. Okay, right? Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:35 October 15th, though, Luke, is going to be UFC Fight Night Vegas 62. And according to MMA Island, how about this for a quick turnaround? Banger Daniel Rodriguez versus Neil Magny. You moved by this? Yeah, I got to tell you, Daniel Rodriguez, man, he's moving on up. Is he not? Like, I know the win over the Leach was, you know, had some controversy and it was all last minute and all that kind of crazy stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:00 But the guy is good. And listen, he's not all that young. What is he, 35, something like that? that kind of crazy stuff but the but the guy is good and listen he's not all that young what is he 35 something like that he's trying to make the most of the time he has left in the sport i applaud him neil magny is a tough customer he's a real kind of guy you can prove yourself against should be a fun one should be a very technical one i love that fight i love everything about this yeah sign me up yeah i'm in on that uh luke two ufc fighters have recently failed drug tests that launched them suspensions walter weight eliza zaleski gets a one-year ban for osterine his quote was the recan the result came as a surprise to
Starting point is 01:22:35 all of us um are you surprised i'm never surprised that people either a legitimately could have been affected by a tainted supplement that's very common and then or b just took fucking drugs like that's irrational i don't know how all these delta h got in my backpack i really don't you know luke also askar mozaroff who was accused of falsifying his pro record ahead of his recent ufc debut against alonzo Mennefield has received a six-month ban from the Nevada State Athletic Commission for failing a drug test for the WADA banned GW1516 cell phone. Cell phone.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Not cell phone, Luke. Cell phone. I don't know what that is, but I'm sure it gets you high, right? I hope. Yeah. All right. Isn't that like growth hormone i don't i don't really take that stuff luke you know what i mean so you know i don't know i need to take that stuff if i'm just if we're gonna go on on a real you know trial run here and just juice luke you think we should bring in chef kaz he could be both our nutritionist uh i don't know if he's got connections in those areas he can put our like our our skin in those weird balls
Starting point is 01:23:50 that he has you know what i'm saying have you ever seen chef kaz's weird balls that he puts on his uh on his muscles and his bones you know what i'm saying i do not wish to see chef kaz's balls well that was wrong of me to say that we love you you know what we should do is like we should just you and i should leave our families for six months get a shitty apartment in jersey city that way we could do like six months of in-studio shows yes and just and just do all the steroids imaginable that we possibly can like in the worst medically advisable ways utterly unintelligent use cases and then and then get jacked as fucking shit yeah that'd be wonderful i'm in on that uh luke every friday we give the uh the viewer a chance to uh sling back at us morningcombat
Starting point is 01:24:33 at gmail.com is where you send in your wednesday fan subs but more importantly every friday you put us on trial does the glove fit i don't know let's find out if we're gonna quit this one's called dead wrong and you better bring your seats bitch all right uh this is from uh oh this guy's about to dead wrong himself watch this this from edward freeman he says god damn y'all old as hell during the fill in the blank segment last episode, BC asked Luke how many points he would score against Sue Bird. And Luke said he would try to use the Irvin Magic Johnson sky hook,
Starting point is 01:25:13 which is dead wrong because that move belonged to Kareem and not Magic. Then BC followed up and said, Dr. J, which is both dead wrong. Keep up the great work. Come to Detroit sometime. uh washed ass dads it's edward freeman uh edward you're dead wrong in a few spots here okay luke did ascribe the move to magic johnson but i acceptably said oh you mean the the baby skyhook which magic used to call the junior junior skyhook which, beginning with the middle of his career, right around 1987, when Pat Riley asked Magic to ask Kareem if they could lower his output
Starting point is 01:25:53 because he was pushing 40, and Magic jumped his scoring up from 18 to about 23 points a game. And a big part of that was the 6'9 guard beginning to develop a postgame that really didn't come into full appearance until the 1991 season under new head coach, Mike Dunleavy, in which magic was basically working a point forward role from the post. But we all know the sky hook is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's move, but to act like magic Johnson didn't make the junior junior sky hook a big
Starting point is 01:26:19 part of his offense. I mean, Luke, do we remember that playoff game in uh the 87 finals against the celtics at boston when he hit that running sky hook over mikhail parish and bird i mean what are we doing i definitely don't remember what it was called but the idea that magic didn't use like that hooking shot in the center lane routinely is not true yeah so you know what edward freeman you're dead wrong and then then Luke had made a mention of Dr. J,
Starting point is 01:26:46 and I think I repeated Dr. J, but Dr. J had the cupping dunk. That was his move, right? I mean, what are we doing here, Edward? Yeah, by the way, I want to dead wrong myself very quickly. You're asking about Tom Hardy performances. Someone tweeted me here. Let me tell you, they're right.
Starting point is 01:27:01 So I had mentioned he plays, like there's these two brothers, and he plays the crazy one. I forgot, he actually plays both brothers. The reason, he's one guy playing both guys at the same time. The reason why I forgot about the other brother is because he's sort of just a relatively normal dude. It didn't really stand out.
Starting point is 01:27:17 The crazy guy of the two brothers that he plays, he does an unbelievable job. The name of that, they're called the Cray Twins. This is from the movie Legend. He also recommends the movie Bronson. I have tried to watch the movie Bronson with my wife. I did like it. Very violent and bloody. Also, he speaks with such an English accent.
Starting point is 01:27:36 I don't know if it's a Cockney accent or not. I can't remember. But I remember that the time we watched it, whatever service it was on at the time, didn't have subtitles. and my wife was like i don't understand a fucking word this guy is saying so we can't watch this movie so uh yes i've watched most of it but it's pretty good you're like don't worry we don't understand darren till either there you go uh luke our producers gaff and cory want to dead wrong this guy edward for saying come to detroit because under their words why would you ever want to i like detroit style pizza you like
Starting point is 01:28:10 detroit style pizza i've never had detroit stop it rafe bartholomew lives in detroit randomly enough because his significant other is in med school there we should go to detroit and visit one day luke will right maybe bring bottled water i mean that's saying that's saying a lot i'd rather just i'd rather just get detroit style pizza outside of detroit but i will say that detroit style pizza is pretty good it's actually it might be my favorite these days rafe said that not far from eight mile there is an italian joint that was renamed mom spaghetti that's sad all right uh this one's from colin avery he says during fan subs of episode
Starting point is 01:28:45 351 Brian said Mackinac Island and he's dead wrong the island and the city are both pronounced Mackinaw even though the island is spelled differently I'm willing to forgive a lot of BC's washedness but as a born and raised Michigander I had to call
Starting point is 01:29:00 this one out that being said I'm a P1 fan of the show and hope that all of your gains and hoes stay loyal. Thank you. You know, very respectful Colin Avery here, Luke. You know, a lot of people come down the lane looking to go hard in the paint on us and dunk. This guy's like, look, I'm just going to finger roll. Right?
Starting point is 01:29:21 What? Okay. You've never been fingered by Colin Averyvery that was that was polite of him okay yeah i said it wrong it's mackinaw island apparently i don't you think i care are you an uber is that what you are just put a fucking w there how hard is that i know i know seriously all right this is from hawaii's own luke you know this guy telvin key papa correct yes okay aloha guys it's your favorite hawaiian donk unfortunately i have the dead wrong bc on episode 351 when discussing francis at about 102 into the video bc said that francis coming off a ko win over stipe when he actually is coming off a win over cyril gone
Starting point is 01:30:00 which happened at you dude are you guys listening to me at all i mean i know i speak a lot of bullshit um i'll take this as you probably had arby's for breakfast instead of having your athletic greens all good bc love you at least you don't wear a purse like co-host hope you all have a great day aloha wow telvin redeemed it's a mochila motherfucker um i wasn't saying that was i mean i have to hear the tape there's a very possible that I'm just an asshole, but I thought I was saying a distinct reference to if Francis had been coming off directly that knockout of Stipe, then the UFC would be doing everything in their power to resign him and make him happy. But given the injuries, given the time off since the win over Cyril,
Starting point is 01:30:40 I feel like Ghana's lost some leverage. That was the point. If I misrepresented that, which I often do apparently, Luke. I mean, look, you've got a long history of accidentally pissing people off by saying things in the wrong frame. Maybe me too. Yeah, the other part too,
Starting point is 01:30:52 so folks don't understand when you have a job like this, sometimes in your mind you say something and then the way you articulate it isn't quite exactly what you had in your mind, but you don't remember it that way. And then you hear it back. You're like, okay, right.
Starting point is 01:31:04 But I didn't mean it necessarily like this. There's an asymmetry between the thoughts you cook up and the way you articulate it, especially if you just talk as much as we do. Yeah, there you go. All right, this one's from Victor Sanchez Castro on Luke's live chat. Well, Luke, we're really bringing your personal channel
Starting point is 01:31:21 into this dead wrong. Listen, I don't field these emails. So whoever this in there you know you don't blame me well hopefully victor sanchez castro entered the super chat luke and helped paid for two keys schooling right hopefully took he goes to public school fuck face all right all right look sorry sorry to disrespect your family there uh victor says on luke's live, he said that Karam Gabber, is that right? Karam? Karam? Karam Gabber?
Starting point is 01:31:48 I can't pronounce it either, yeah. Won an Olympic gold medal in 04 and a silver medal at Athens in 2012. This is dead wrong, my friend. The 2004 Olympics were held in Athens and 2012 was in London. Take the L. Oh, Jesus Christ. Take the L and sit on it. You washed pile of garbage. Wow. Love the L and sit on it. You washed pile of garbage.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Wow. Love the show. It's Victor. Wow. All right. The insult's good. I like the insult, but I mean, this is very pedantic, but okay. Wow, we got a lot of these dead wrongs.
Starting point is 01:32:17 This one's from William Kerr. You think he's related to the smashing machine, Luke? Could be. Could be. He says, on MK350 at two hours and three minutes during bc's feces a woman fell to the ground while riding her scooter however the so-called book read intelligent philosopher said she fell to the floor what kind of degenerate vaping hillbilly poser still doesn't know the difference between the ground and the floor just kidding don't get your standing up while you wipe underwear in a twist
Starting point is 01:32:46 luke that's um that's a good one that's a good one so he claims it's his name is thomas brady the third but then he says in case it's challenged the oxford english dictionary says the floor is the lower surface of a room on which one may walk but the ground is the solid surface of the earth and then it says from william kerr i don't know who sent this email luke but that's pedantic as shit right i know but here's why i'll accept this l because he made it funny as shit so i'll take that l all right our final one comes from adam parsons of toronto canada he says i bc although i appreciate you showing me love on the broadcast the idea that a gaffer is an unimportant job is dead wrong. They are in charge of all the lighting and work closely with the director and DP to craft all shots.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Well, where I come from, DP means something much different. What you're thinking of are PAs who are also very important but have different tasks like garbage duty, setup, tear down. By the way, I'm a sound mixer on the show, which your Malka friends will tell you is a key position once they put their phones down. Wow. What show is he a sound mixer on? Ours? No, he's not, right? Who the hell's Adam Parsons? He doesn't work on our show.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I mean, Luke wouldn't know either way, but... Dude, I can't... Honestly, I couldn't name three people on staff. All right. I know Filthy Phil just left, and I'm heartbroken. Also, what the fuck is a key grip? You ever seen those? They come up in the credits of movies like key grip.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Yeah, like Best Boy comes up in the credits in the movies, too. That seems a little, you know, that's a lot. All right. Maniche, can they hear you? They got to hear you, bro. They got to see this. This is this is the content that the fans need to hear, man. I mean, they used to see Jay Aaron's face.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Can we see yours, Maniche? All right. All right. Everyone's everyone. Maniche is bitter at us because we just call everyone producers when there's like different roles but you know i mean y'all are fucking producers like that's what some of you are food producers right you make sure we get our our meal and there you go all right thank you thank you to our great staff too luke we close on friday sometimes to kill a little bit of time and have some fun with a no holds barred segment that we call mk happy hour
Starting point is 01:35:06 so tip your waitresses yeah yeah there we go there it is all right luke what are you doing where are you going i'm grabbing my my drink for happy hour luke what is that fucking orc juice oh are you doing a bit a little bit a little bit of a bit there luke all right uh luke mk real quickly i watched the first episode of andor on disney plus my kids told me this morning that we need to start watching that this weekend so i will be watching that with them what are your early thoughts okay so here's what i'll say like um i didn't care for the obi-wan series because it was like as we talked about it was like half well produced and then half like they spent five dollars on the fucking scene and flea is running around on like you know a community college fucking av club set yeah he's got a sock
Starting point is 01:36:05 on his cock yeah i know that yeah it's just the worst so so i didn't love that mandalorian i like a lot book of boba fett is for simpletons uh let's be very clear about that and uh so this one okay i've only seen one episode i think there's three out now. It's definitely very well made. Very well made. And the lead actor, it's Diego Luna, right? That's his name? I think that's his name. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:36:34 I'll double check. I'm looking it up now, Luke. I figure I should do a little bit of background on this. The guy who plays Cassium. Yes. I think his name is Diego Luna. This is related to Rogue One, right? Correct.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Because that's the role that Diego... This is like a precursor to rogue one and that's arguably the second best star wars movie ever made look let's be fair about that it's got a lot of fan service but it's a good movie but what i would say is this it's a little slow it's very well made it's very well acted they definitely put in more effort than they did on the Obi-Wan series, for sure. And it's got a lot. I think it has more potential. So I want to see how the next two episodes go. But I got to tell you, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:14 I just, like, I'm a little bit out on Star Wars now. Like, oh, we're going to fight the Empire. I'm like, I don't really give a fuck that you're fighting the Empire anymore. It doesn't mean, like, let the Empire win. I just don't, I don't really give a fuck that you're fighting the Empire anymore. It doesn't mean, like, let the Empire win. I just don't really give a shit, to be quite candid with you. Wow, all right. They don't really invest me in the struggle so far in Andor. So it's got potential.
Starting point is 01:37:38 I guess we'll see. That's a timeless struggle. Good versus evil, right? Us versus them. But, like, Andor is... We'll see. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. All right. that's a timeless struggle good versus evil right us versus them but like and or is we'll see i don't know we'll see we'll see all right i'll watch it and get back to you i did like obi-wan despite some of those production issues we talked about um i have yet to see the boba fett one i'm i'm anxious yeah anxious for a new mandalorian season um you know is it overkill
Starting point is 01:38:04 in general oh hell yeah it is Luke. But it's a money making boon. But I will say this. The totality of the spin off projects. In this new era with George Lucas out. Dude it's so much better. Than like episodes 1 to 3. And even though people have a lot of love.
Starting point is 01:38:20 For those cartoon series. And look I watched half of that Rebel season. It was good. I think that the presentation of these. Is like some of the best shit star wars ever done right i mean it's gritty it's right i mean like rogue one opened up a new idea of what a war what a star wars war movie could look like yes yes it's also a lot of fan service for dorks um that's a big part of it too but but it was entertaining it was it felt a little bit different it didn't feel so jedi versus sith all the time although there's that one dude who was like i am with the fourth forces with me i'm like yo shut the fuck up bro no no samurai jedi that guy's one of the coolest characters there ever was luke nah
Starting point is 01:39:03 nah get the fuck out of here with that but uh but you know it definitely has it definitely has some charm i enjoyed it i've watched it several times since i really enjoyed it but is that guy in this series no that guy died in rogue one well since it's a precursor but no the only one again i'm only one episode in the only one i've seen thus far that is a carryover from rogue one would be cassian that's it okay okay uh luke big news that's seems to be fluid i'm a celtics fan so this matters to me first year coach i'm a udoka who led the celtics to the finals last year and in defeat but a big mid-season turnaround he's suspended for the whole damn year for a consensual, inappropriate relationship with a female staffer.
Starting point is 01:39:48 So, Luke, the immediate, and I was part of this immediate, like, a year suspension for something that I know is an HR violation. Believe me, I get it. But a year? But then people are saying, look, the coach didn't dispute it. He said he accepts it all. We find out that the team was actually willing to fire him. Now it seems like, does it feel like things are going a little deeper now?
Starting point is 01:40:09 There's a lot of truth that did not come out in the story, it seems. I mean, it's just weird to me that when the reporters initially started reporting this, that they said that this was a consensual relationship, but they had no other details about what had happened. It's like, why are you so confident in the detail that it was consensual, but you have nothing else to report about it? That seems a little odd to me personally.
Starting point is 01:40:34 And then sure enough, we find out that this morning, I think it was, uh, was it shams who reported it over from a stadium that, um he on athletic too yeah he's on both i think but he he ends up reporting that it may have been consensual at one point but then eventually turned out to not be and that he ended up sending messages where the person in question here whoever this woman is on staff that she was not threatened but like harassed in some kind of way are you talking like brett farve jen sturger type level here i don't know jen sturger follows me on twitter i think or whatever her she changed her last name she got married or something but um i don't know if it's on that level we don't have this is my point we don't have any of these details but like they
Starting point is 01:41:21 rushed out being like well it was consensual but if it's consensual why would you suspend a guy for a fucking year this is like the weirdest punishment on earth because it's like if someone is deserving to be suspended for a year you might as well just fire him but they didn't fire him so what did he do that where it's kind of like bad enough to not lose your job but be inactive basically for a year but not bad enough to get fired i guess this is it um this dude what's what's the coach's name i forget his name again uh i'm a udoka who people need to realize has been engaged for i believe a decade to to kneel long kneel long who's who's still got it luke you know i mean kneel long is a treasure like i'm like dude you got greedy you got real greedy like you i mean to punt on that is shocking yeah give to the needy right you've been eating long
Starting point is 01:42:11 enough now all right that was a deep cut very good xanax reference sorry about that yeah i just couldn't believe it but brett farve is the bigger story to me well before we transition to that and i think it's connected in the way that rightfully when the news first came out about udoka peopleoka, people are going like, so the African-American man's getting the one year suspension and everyone else is sort of getting nothing for, you know, worse offenses. But there does seem to be deeper details. I agree with you that if it's that severe, just fire already. But the fact that he just came out and accepted it does tend to tell you that there's deeper details there. But that's going to hurt the team in a big way. Although that's not the primary story obviously at this moment but the breath
Starting point is 01:42:48 farthing is weird luke so i don't know how he got here but he's being accused of defrauding welfare in the state of mississippi upwards of five million is like how does he how is he even in a spot to do that? Uh, through connections from with the former governor and then folks who are in charge of, um, well, it's a whole little network that he was working with.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Uh, but basically the idea is he was paid 1.1 million in speaking fees for talks. He never gave. My understanding is he had to return that money, but then the other part, the 5 million, he didn't pocket that, but it went to the university of southern mississippi where hello he went and his daughter now goes who plays volleyball there so they can have a new facility i mean dude you are talking about the fucking scummiest behavior um not imaginable but just i mean real absolute like dude brett farm's a dirt
Starting point is 01:43:47 bag right sending dick pics to jen sturger and then taking money that was supposed to go to welfare funds like the neediest people and again remember mississippi the poorest state in the union the poorest state in the union five million dollars so that your alma mater where your daughter plays who's probably had the most charmed life imaginable, can have a new recreational facility. And by the way, I don't know if you know this detail, the funds as they are constructed, they can't go to brick and mortar construction.
Starting point is 01:44:16 You have to find another way. So they cleverly worded the contract to be basically like a sublease so they could actually make that happen because you wouldn't be able to do it otherwise so like dude the levels of duplicity then you know to say nothing of who you're taking money from to do this is fucking mind-blowing well mind-blowing unfortunately i'm used to this having coming from areas both the town i'm from in the city next to it where it's a regular thing for the mayors to end up in jail at the end of their term for misappropriation of funds or taking handouts.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I mean, look, the history is there. It's like one after another. I mean, when I was a kid, R.I.P. The late mayor, Bill Rado, went to jail for a bribe, came out, got reelected at age 80. I mean, it's just ridiculous luke but in this case it was the uh the former director of the mississippi department of human services entered a guilty plea for misdirecting more than 70 million in total welfare that was yesterday yes and 8.1 million of those are directly related to far 5 million to the construction of a volleyball building at the alma mater southern mississippi and 2 million for a pharmaceutical startup that Favre has been an investor.
Starting point is 01:45:25 So Favre repaid $1.1 million for the uncompleted speaking engagements. Obviously, we don't know. I mean, we don't know to the full level, Luke, of his involvement on there, but it does. Dude, have you read the text messages? No. Are they awful? He is intimately involved,
Starting point is 01:45:44 including to a point where he's asking one of his intermediaries involved on the government side. Um, how are we sure the media won't find out about this? Like, dude, I mean, caught red. He, he, he might be in big trouble. He might be in big trouble. This is, this is not just, you know know a gross piece of shit thing where it's like you're like oh like an mma worse than than martha stewart and aunt becky from full house this is
Starting point is 01:46:11 worse than that oh yeah i mean here's the thing like on becky from full house they definitely fucked over people who were more deserving but that was like rich people just trying to like game their way in for you know to look nice in rich people's society. And again, that means it was at the expense of people who might have been middle class or even poor deserving. But that's not so widespread. I mean, it's not great, but it's not so widespread in terms of the overall effect it could have individually. But this is like, Jesus, man. I mean, you're taking from, observably, the neediest people in the neediest state in the country,
Starting point is 01:46:51 all so your daughter could have a nicer environment to go play her fucking meaningless volleyball career? Wow. Boy, you really have to think. You basically have to think everyone around you, other than the people who enable your lifestyle, are peasants. Absolute scum. You know?
Starting point is 01:47:09 You know, famous people with control love sending stick pics to women. They love it. Like, that was never a part of a culture I subscribed to. You ever send a dick pic? I don't know. No. I don't even, you know, no. No, Luke.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Oh, by the way, you totally offered that out as if you have and i don't want to know no no no i'm not stupid enough to leave digital footprints that uh like like old brett farve can like you got to be careful out there but um i definitely know dudes who've done it dude i know so many guys who have purchased like time with whores and stuff i mean i know okay okay okay i mean you're marine buddies right soldiers fill the hotels on the weekends we know what they do there. Oh, dude, we're supporting the troops. I'm like, well, most of them, yes.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Not all of them. Let me assure you. Luke, something I missed in the quick hitters was Gervonta Davis is going to have a December 12th trial after a judge rejected his plea deal in that 2020 hit and run in which he was caught on tape in Baltimore leaving the scene of an accident in which he was driving. We were under the idea that a December pay-per-view return is potentially in play.
Starting point is 01:48:10 I wonder how this affects that. Oh, right. That's the justice system right now. The story there was that he had had a plea agreement with the prosecutors to avoid jail time. And it did involve a couple of months of like home confinement right some you know community service and some other stuff they would have to pay a fine and shit like that but uh he was going to avoid jail time the judge rejected it the judge was like no so now hey guys before a jury yeah quick update um do an update youtube has been having major issues with their
Starting point is 01:48:42 live streaming across the board for the past five to ten minutes. I've been sorting it out in the background, trying to hope it would come back. So we just got a new link up. Just so you know, we're live on a new link. So the viewers are all transferring over. So if you guys just – there's going to be pieces that we'll have to reupload. All the live streaming on YouTube essentially crashed. So we're back up on a secondary link.
Starting point is 01:49:06 And this show is now being watched on a new live link? I got a feeling that it's not being watched by all that many people. Yeah. There was like 1,300 viewers, so they're transferring back over and I just wanted to give you guys the update. We're slowly getting people over to the new link.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Luke, do you know what I'm going to try to do this weekend? Luke, yeah. I don't know. Tell me. Have you heard about this David Bowie documentary that's being played in IMAX theaters across the country right now? Of course I have not. Okay, it's called Moon Age Daydream,
Starting point is 01:49:38 and apparently there's this real artsy director who was given the blessing of a still-alive Bowie before his death to to sort of undertake this project and i'm told you have to see it in imax and that it you know if you're a bowie fan at all or interested or curious that the combination of concert footage and and bowie you know narrating his own life before his death there is riveting artsy and transcendent luke that's not going to lead you to uh to purchase a ticket i gotta see it i gotta see it luke no no i did take my wife and daughter to that we have a frito frito calo exhibit here in dc um like a little
Starting point is 01:50:18 like a pop-up museum to her life and artwork okay i took my i took i took tukster and my wife too it's pretty cool did tukes enjoy it or she's just like where's the she did they had a lot of stuff for children she got her face painted and then we pulled up so it's funny funnily enough the day we went the ambassador from mexico to the united states was there right behind us and they had a whole like security detail and everything with just randomly that we we happen to go at the same time so when we pulled up and parked the car dude they, they had mariachis playing outside. Man, if you can't get busy with mariachis, fuck your life. Like, that's a good time.
Starting point is 01:50:49 So Tukey loved the mariachis. Dude, I get fired up at the Mexican restaurant when you don't know the mariachi band is there, and then suddenly they're there, Luke. Okay? And it's on. You know, I'm into that. Yeah, you know what's weird? Mariachis should be very explicit about this that is a
Starting point is 01:51:05 very it's a mexican thing to be clear it's like that's that's what it's their invention to the in among many other things into the musical world but in colombia when you are serenading a girl like if once you do it like in a very serious way you have to bring apparently mariachis to serenade her outside her window my wife has often told me that that's a thing i've not done sufficiently for her oh wow yeah yeah in the states we have that tradition where you have to ask the old crusty dad for permission in columbia they're like no just hire a band you're good and forget the boombox john cusack you know just hire the band i mean for our the day before we got married for my wife and i we went to a
Starting point is 01:51:45 like a party that our family threw for us and they had mariachis there it was fucking great could they play in your eyes by peter gabriel like uh yeah no but they would they would play all the hits that mariachis play so it was good okay uh luke i i cautioned into this conversation but um you listen to any good music lately am i listening to any good music lately um nothing new nothing new um no i can't i mean i'm listening to what i normally listen to but there's nothing that i've really found that really got my attention why did you find some gems well i'm always finding gems that's why we have a once in a while segment called vinyl intercourse i'm trying to bring back That really got my attention. Why did you find some gems? Well, I'm always finding gems. That's why we have a once in a while segment called Vinyl Intercourse.
Starting point is 01:52:29 I'm trying to bring back Luke because apparently there's T-shirts that you can buy on the website for that. I didn't okay that, but whatever. So you're like, no, just the same old hate. That's what I'm listening to. I mean, Luke, you listen to hate music. Not exclusively. Okay. music not exclusively okay if it's not death metal is it automatically um reggaeton no it's more so like hardcore rap that's the vast majority of what i listen to is metal all right all right i you
Starting point is 01:52:59 know i guess i'm much more easy listening than you luke not that i spend all my time in the yacht rock zone but you know okay well i mean you know one of us is a fan of the indigo girls and one of us isn't and one of us has a car that says that to the world despite the color of my car that is not me at the end my car fucking yesterday broke down i've had this car since 2015 never had a problem with it so it's 2015 so it's 2022 i've had this car seven years right have never taken it to the shop because it never needed it obviously i've kept the oil changed and everything else like that but never had an issue with it and uh so yesterday i was actually going
Starting point is 01:53:35 to retrieve stuff from my office across town and as i'm pulling into the garage it just shuts off and i'm like what the fuck and then it comes back on and then i hit the gas pedal a little bit more and then it shut off again and i was like dude i cannot have my car stall out inside the garage like the ceilings are really low and shit like how am i gonna get it out and so i just turned right around and i was able to make it home but now i don't know what i'm gonna do with my ride because it's all jacked up you should buy a new car luke that's what i told my wife dude but like with the supply chain issues and everything else the price of cars is like out of this world so i don't really know what we're gonna do so speaking of cars i i've i've been thinking about my old guy pivot let me let me
Starting point is 01:54:15 set the stage luke my dad's a motorcycle guy owns a crap ton of them rebuilds them from from the you know from the bones into whatever old school style he wants, has won awards, been featured in magazines. That's his life. Likes to get on the open road on the motorcycle. I get it, Luke. I'm a Sunday drive type of guy, right? Windows down, sunroof open, some rock jacked up.
Starting point is 01:54:37 I was thinking about the other day, you know, I'm probably never going to get on that motorcycle to the chagrin of my father. It's just not my thing. But I wonder, despite the image of a piece of shit ponytail wearing divorced dad buying a convertible to try to feel like he's still cool i might be a convertible pivot guy in my late 40s and 50s now a do you think i can pull it off and i'm not talking about high price because i'm cheap you know me luke i'm talking about like a you know an economical convertible.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Is this a good direction for me, given how much I love the open road, the scenic country drive, you know, driving too fast on the curvy roads with the music blasting? Could you see this being a, will this enhance my midlife crisis at all? You will die. In a convertible okay you may not die in the convertible but um i think it'd be sad i think it'd be sad i think buying a convertible in your mid 40s is some sad shit unless you've had convertibles before like i hope they come with hair dye luke because it all goes together right it's like it's looking at your lot in life at the moment and trying to do something aggressive to tell everybody that you're still got something left in the tank luke no it's just
Starting point is 01:55:53 you trying to be doing people buy shit like that it's them trying to cheer themselves up that's what it is you're trying to be like what would be a cool because look i'm not going like the bmw ben's level i can't afford i'm not that guy luke i don't want like a mazda miata either because that just says you're you know that says things what about like a mini cooper convertible lamb oh get fucked you ever driven a mini coupe no i haven't i haven't i drove one one time you know because they have like a shared car service here in the city so i was like let me just go try one of these things they got like a weird key entry and shit.
Starting point is 01:56:26 It's not that fun. It's really not that cool. Plus, you're a tall guy. It's not built for you and me. But I've always had an affinity for small cars for some reason. You know? Fast, small cars with a little bit of balls, but like, you know, great in the snow,
Starting point is 01:56:41 great gas mileage, still efficient. But, you know, a cool edge like my orange subaru cross check dude your car i mean i gotta tell you is the no fucking section oh get out of here get out of here that car is i mean whatever cool is your car is the opposite of that it's the worst car on earth i want to be very clear about that i mean it's fine as a way to like get from point a to point b but like as it like what it says about you and shit it says that you have absolutely packed it in and you really are just waiting for the sweet whisper of death in your ear okay that's extreme but that does sound like if that's my reality and i don't know it yet
Starting point is 01:57:18 a pivot to a convertible i could do worse than than that seriously what's a quiet like what's a car that you and I could buy, right? Where it would be considered, I'm going to be very clear about the way I word this, reasonably cool, reasonably cool, but we weren't trying too hard. Like, what's that lane that we could get in? Definitely not an American sports car.
Starting point is 01:57:40 That would be trying too hard, right? Like a muscle car, you mean? Yeah, like if we went out and bought like a souped up like a mustang cobra or whatever yeah that'd be that'd be like but like uh somebody who is cool can pull that off right like i assume mike piazza's driving around something like that i'm like that guy can do that right he ain't that cool but yeah he's cooler than us get out of here i i feel like, what about this? What about like a Range Rover? I mean, that'd be a little expensive. But like, if we got one, would we be try-hards if we got a Range Rover?
Starting point is 01:58:14 Yeah, I think that's a little bit try-hard. I mean, you seem like the type of guy, given your size and the size of stature you assume on yourself, that I could see you pulling up in just a gas guzzler. an absolute like no i want to get my i want to get an electric car i want to get an electric car oh okay okay do you know who mkbhd is uh at morning combat uh big no i don't i don't big huge dongs yeah big huge dogs yeah yeah no he's a guy marquis marquez marquez brownlee he uh he's one of the most famous uh tech youtubers out there like he's got you know 10 plus million followers whatever the fuck just a gazillion he's a little bit different than some of the other ones though because they all do like the new apple thing the new iphone review he does
Starting point is 01:58:59 those two but now he's got a separate channel on like cars but like the future of cars like the like a lot of like the what tesla is up to and like so one thing he's been reviewing is he reviewed one of the new ford trucks that's i think it's called like the f-150 lightning and so it's all electric f-150 dude these things are unbelievable there's like electrical sockets you could power your fucking house literally from your car and one of the cool things is they now have what's called frunks so because you don't have a uh a a a you no longer have a combustion engine basically you just have an electric car they don't need all that space in the front so you not only have the truck bed in the back you're at the front of the car where you
Starting point is 01:59:42 would ordinarily pull the hood it's just open right there and you can fill it up dude you could make a i mean you could you could have epic like you went to camping at all whatever you could fill that motherfucker with everything you want dead bodies hookers the whole nine yards you could fill that thing with and take it all across town and it looks amazing and it's got electrical plug-ins everywhere i want something i i can't an f-150 on the streets of washington dc is a no-go like there's gonna be no parking for you anywhere but like that idea that electric kind of idea like the next wave of cars that's what i want and what about a tesla but tesla's man i don't know they're kind of overrated yeah
Starting point is 02:00:20 jay aaron kind of ruined the idea of a tesla right yeah i know jay aaron's like i just go to bars get drunk and then just plug in my address and then just fucking sleep in the front seat like a degenerate piece of shit i mean i don't know if we should be sharing stuff like that publicly but look that's a rumor i heard that's a rumor i heard i don't you know i'm not a car guy and you can tell how lame i am just by looking at me but i've always believed my dream car is the uh is the catalog sts which they stopped making a decade ago that that four door luxury sedan with that big engine and you know do you have one luke that you're like you know if i get a little if this show starts taking off a little bit more i mean i get your idea of pivoting to electric and feeling like you're helping the environment while still looking cool
Starting point is 02:00:59 but do you still have that one like damn if i could get there here's the thing i don't even want to pivot to electric to like help the environment that's not damn if i could get there here's the thing i don't even want to pivot to electric to like help the environment that's not really my i mean maybe it does maybe it doesn't i don't really know i thought you want to leave the earth a better place for tuki that's what i thought you know i definitely do but like my main motivation in getting one of those cars would be so okay i mean we should i don't know if we've ever really talked about it maybe we have maybe it's been a while i've only ever had shit cars. Now, the one I have now is a perfectly fine car.
Starting point is 02:01:28 In fact, the car I have now, I bought. It was the first time I ever bought a new car. I'd only ever bought used cars previously. And I had some fucking beaters. The fact that I avoided virginity, given the cars that I had, frankly, is is a minor miracle to be quite honest with you dude i had i've told you this before the first car i ever had my brother and i had to share and the only reason i eventually inherited it because he went off to college he was two years ahead of me so like when he was a senior i was a sophomore it was a chevy corsica that my dad bought for like i want to say three and a half grand maybe four grand and this was a while ago
Starting point is 02:02:03 this was like 1996 or something but the only reason why we able to get is because my dad went to one of these auctions where they take the cars from like drug dealers or people who commit crimes or whatever by the way that's such a your dad move and I don't even know your dad I know that's a your dad yeah and my dad bid on this this motherfucker had power nothing every window had to be rolled down manually didn't even in 1996 didn't even have a cassette player like it was either am or fm radio or fuck your life you know that kind of shit and uh you know just no frills nothing absolutely zero pizzazz to this fucking car and then uh we got in a point where my brother barreled into a car in front of us and it wasn't
Starting point is 02:02:43 a wreck in the sense we damaged the other guy's car but he had like a tow hitch on the back of the truck and it it like took the front of the hood and like pushed it up so whenever we would go fast you know there's a lid on the hood you have to pull you have to pop the hood and then you have to pull the lid and then it goes up right so the popping part was already done the only thing that was holding it was just the clip on the lid so when we would go fast the hood it wouldn't obstruct the vision but it would it would it would rise and everyone would be like tommy boy dude that's great yeah and everyone would be like dude why is your car a pirate because it looked like a little of the car was going like
Starting point is 02:03:18 like this the whole time and shit like that and then i go to college i dude that car i told you this is the one i had to emergency break one day and just left that bitch then i go to college i dude that car i told you this is the one i had to emergency break one day and just left that bitch on the side of the road and had it towed never saw it again followed it up with a car after i left new york city and came back to dc with just an absolute piece of shit car that cost me maybe five grand to buy and every time i would turn left it would billow smoke into the air like a 19th century fucking oil baron you know uh company and uh old lady uh down the street hit me once and was i wasn't able to recover anything never had a car after that until i
Starting point is 02:03:58 bought this one i've never had like a like a ride like a fucking this ride is sweet you know i've never had one of those fucking things man i want i want one of those you know no every man deserves that at least once luke and if i get the convertible don't make fun of me i wanted to close with this story though because i got to interview a fighter shortly but i went to the skin doctor after friday's mk episode and i had they look at when they look at your skin bro they look at the back side of your ball bag oh they're i go once a year for that checkup we talk about that i feel bad it's like a young lady working and it's like you know they're like no we have to see it sir we have to see every dude i didn't tell you this so i want my wife
Starting point is 02:04:33 sent me in real quickly hold on my wife's like you need to go get your skin checked because it's just what you got no no no sorry i went to the dermatologist i got some skin tags i gotta get removed and she saw something on my ear she's like you should get that checked out so i went to go get it checked out and they were like sure enough um you know you're fine this is okay but like we need to do a full-on body scan so they're like okay get down to your underwear i'm like yeah cool no worries so like you know they're looking at my arms like you know raise your arms looking at your armpit and stuff dude my man doing the thing just takes my underwear and then pulls it off oh gosh and then starts he didn't announce
Starting point is 02:05:06 to me he's like okay now i'm gonna be pulling this up because i need to look he just started we just you know like the like the bin of vinyl cds he was just rifling through to see what he could find i'm like yo what the fuck are you doing vinyl cds first of all but okay sorry about vinyl cds but you don't say vinyl records vinyl records he's just in the crate digging you know yeah he's like i'm here you want a prostate check yeah so luke i had gone a year ago i think we talked about i was getting some you know piece of shit old guy skin tags all over my under eye here and i didn't want that to become a thing luke right i had him on my neck i got them all burnt or frozen and cut off and it hurt like shit and it cost like 500 bucks is ridiculous it doesn't hurt at all okay well let's talk about this so i had i ended up let's get really gross i ended up in each armpit
Starting point is 02:05:49 having a bunch okay so the lady works out a deal with me she's like i'll charge you for each armpit as a total totality it'll be like 250 total cosmetic in and out the door i'm like all right i don't want to be that gross guy in the summertime so look i'm sitting like this in the in the chair there's like four different females in there because there's like the assistant the college senior who's like doing you know student teaching that's there and all that stuff and dude they got to put a needle i had like 10 in each arm but they had to put a needle in every single one and then shave that thing off i felt everything i was in i remember telling the doc I'm like this is the second most vulnerable I've ever been besides my vasectomy which I also felt everything and Luke I could see the look on
Starting point is 02:06:31 their face in that moment as if like we don't usually have people squirm on this level sir and you're a 44 year old man and I tried to cut it off and tell them look I know what you're thinking I have the worst pain tolerance of anyone you've ever seen. Our viewers probably not surprised by that, but maybe it's the opposite. Maybe I have the most sensitive pain tolerance you've ever seen because I not only felt that burning needle into the skin tag, I'm feeling you cut it off. She's like,
Starting point is 02:06:58 you're feeling it. You're not supposed to feel it. I go, yeah, that's what the vasectomy butcher said too. So Luke, maybe I'm actually the toughest guy you know because I just feel things more.
Starting point is 02:07:09 It is possible. It is possible. Do people have different tolerances? And I don't think it's because everyone is a weakling. I think it's because some people just feel it a little bit differently. But I had one of my, I have more to get off, but I got one removed.
Starting point is 02:07:22 I got two removed and it only stings for like a second. After that's no big no by the way if you can't tolerate that a tattoo would absolutely blow your fucking mind i think it would blow my mind i don't know what's gonna happen here sean brady gonna beat balal we'll have to find out dude if he fucking let's end on this if what are we gonna do serious question what are we going to do if sean brady beats below muhammad because i don't know what the odds are. That is a, you know, I don't know if it's likely, but it's definitely in the realm of very possible, right? Maybe even likely.
Starting point is 02:07:52 And if he does, we made a commitment. Now, for me, not that hard. I can figure it out. But A, pay Showtime. Well, Showtime, you're going to have to pay for it, all right? You have to pay for the tattoo and everything else. But are you actually... For me, not hard to go through with it.
Starting point is 02:08:08 Are you actually going to go through with it? Caesars right now has Brady a minus 135 favorite. Bilal, a plus 115 underdog. Okay, but that's very, very close. Very close. I mean, I said I would, didn't I? Yeah, you can get a small tattoo. You don't have to get anything super crazy.
Starting point is 02:08:30 Okay. Okay. You can get a tattoo that takes like 30 minutes or less. Jay Aaron texting both of us now about Teslas, but we're not going there, are we? Dude, Jay, I don't care about your life. He's got analysis about your issues on electric cars or your interest in electric cars excuse me all right thank you jay thank you luke uh that's our show for today i gotta go off and interview a you know rising boxing star the bellator prelims have
Starting point is 02:08:55 started they have started all right we hand off to big john to uh josh thompson and whoever else is on the call this time around. Watch it now on Bellator Showtime's YouTube channels, Pluto TV, and don't forget, 4 p.m. Eastern later today, Bellator, 285, only on Showtime. Don't have Showtime? Well, how about you get your 30 days free starting right now. Go to Showtime.com.
Starting point is 02:09:20 That's how you do it. Like us, subscribe to us, buy our merch at MorningCcombat.store. Thank you for another great week of shows. Not a lot of big news this week, Luke, but we effed around and kind of got a triple-double this week. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Enjoy the fights this weekend, whichever ones you are focusing on. Luke Thomas, are you going to get out and do anything fun? Do I ever? Not really.
Starting point is 02:09:46 Not really. I mean, we're talking about skin tags here. This is where we're at in life, Luke. Okay. Yeah. Two 40-year-old plus pieces of trash. That's what we really are. There you go.
Starting point is 02:09:56 There you go. For Maniche, for Gaff, Long Island Luke here today? I don't know. Mikey Morms is in Europe right now. Hopefully we see him again in our lifetime. Enjoy your lives, people. Take care of yourselves for the great Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell.
Starting point is 02:10:12 May all your gains, even your side women, may they stay loyal. We out.

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