MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Brandon Royval Interview, Holiday Mailbag, Live Q&A | FULL EPISODE | MORNING KOMBAT

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Welcome Back, Donks! We hope all of you had an amazing holiday season! MK is back and ready to keep the good times rollin'. In this special holiday mailbag episode, Luke and Brian are joined by top UFC Flyweight contender Brandon Royval to dive deep into the world of MMA and discuss the current state of the Flyweight division.  But that's not all! The guys are also doing a LIVE Q&A to answer all your burning questions. Whether it’s MMA-related or anything else on your mind, no topic is off-limits! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Back with a bang. It's Morning Combat Friday, December 27th, 2024. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Happy Boxing Day to all you Canucks who celebrate. And also happy Chinooka out there to everybody. This is the M to the K, the B to the C, and the LT, Brian Campbell, and Luke Thomas and LT.

Merry Christmas to you, the Tukes, and your fine family. I hope all is well in D.C. All is well, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to everybody, hope you had a good one, I thought Boxing Day was yesterday, it was, yeah yesterday, that's what I said, oh okay, alright sorry, anyway, it's also isn't Boxing Day British, you said Canucks

you know, I'm not really sure all I know is it's Boxing Day in my house every day Luke, okay, because that's the path that I choose, of course. Thank you to all the donks for listening, for following, for subscribing, for liking. You can do all that, of course, on our great social handles. You can see that below

our respective YouTube channels. And of course, don't forget about our great producer, director, degenerate gambler and balling enthusiast, Aussie Rules Long Island, Luke Noseda. One half of the main card minute pod you'll be hearing from him today as well so Luke Thomas we've got a great show I would say for the donks during a time when there's nothing going on and most people are off gorging

on sweets hanging out with their family we'll be answering the fans Christmas mailbag questions. And how about a live interview today? Noon Eastern, the raw diggity dog, Brandon Royval, UFC flyweight contender. We asked for him. He answered. And it's going to go down at noon. So check that out right after Randy Couture. Luke, what do you have to say about the state of this world? Us, our show, the holidays. What do you got for me?

Finally, I got, you know what? When I don't have to get up balls early to take my daughter to school and i can sleep in a little bit i sleep great i've actually got a good night's sleep two nights in a row can you believe that i feel pretty great about it that's the best christmas gift you could have received luke okay truly truly i mean that so i'm feeling pretty good uh yeah my kids are 16 but my wife did such an amazing job buying them gifts that it was, you know, best Christmas ever. It was the joy of the, you know, parent-child holiday relationship on full display.

Did Tukes have a 10 out of a 10 Noel that all of us hoped for? Tukes had some criticisms about Santa's delivery this year. She definitely has some criticism criticism which we don't understand because we took every so we took her to the mall santa there's actually one in pentagon city mall which is um the santa there is pretty good and we looked at everything she wrote in the thing and we got everything on that so we were very surprised come christmas when she was like yeah i don't where's this where's that i'm like you didn't tell santa you wanted that so santa didn't bring that um but the rules baby you know but uh but you know i mean don't get me wrong like you know we hooked it up she

she had a she was taken care of whether or not she appreciates what santa did is irrelevant did she ask santa's uh opinion on vaccinations at all or did we not go too deep i don't think she did she just wanted a gabby doll house she wanted she wanted a lightsaber we got a lightsaber for her wow uh she wanted uh some gymnastics equipment we got her all that like everything she wanted on the letter that letter we got her so i don't quite understand what the issue is but yeah you know she'll learn she'll live she'll grow fantastic to hear the family was great i mentioned that third member of our team let's see his face now it's long island luke no cita luke uh we teed up you know the possibility of you beginning christmas morning by jumping on that thing how was your holidays

sir well it definitely started that way i was a good time man got to hang with the fams both fams you know had a good christmas no complaints did your dad bring anything aussie to the table for this great holiday i gotta think i don't know honestly he didn't we they didn't host you know my sister hosted so maybe that's why normally if my dad's hosting he's bringing out something you know even if it's just pet snakes yeah so you know the boomerang from under the bed you know just whip that in the yard quick you know yeah did your dad crack a foster's early on this day early no he was drinking wine actually wine guy i'm not into wine but yeah i actually got wine as my grab bag gift and i was pretty bummed about it i was like i'm never gonna know well was it red or white it was

red cab sauvignon mean, it's... You can mix that with a lot of different foods. I mean, that's, you know, reasonably palatable. The only problem with drinking wine is the fucking headaches, man. Good Lord. I feel like they're worse, you know? So, my wife has switched to French wine only after our trip to Paris, and she's claiming that

the lack of thick tannins are reducing the, you know... Tannins, yeah. you can kind of taste them on your tongue when you have them and they some i believe there's at least some evidence to suggest that they cause or they make the headaches worse well i just think anything you ingest in this country luke the u.s of a it'll kill you inevitably i mean there's some things you can get here that are pretty good you can get good honey here um you know if you if you if you want to die from dysentery you can drink that raw milk that's okay i'm cool with you know basic

vegetables in the grocery store have got a lot of chemicals on them too luke you know what i mean i'm trying to get sometimes yeah i need that rfk junior vibe going i need to get woke on on good food trying to get trying to get those brain worms yeah trying to eat he admitted he had a brain worm that parasite in his fucking brain i mean you gotta eat that road killer it'll do stuff to you perfect guy to a point in this country love it love it love it uh that's the end of the politics for the day but what we did of course was solicit your questions ahead of time using the great email i'm sure of morning combat at gmail.com which you can use to contact the show,

send us your fan subs and dead wrongs for Friday and possibly show Mikey or pipe, but we are not recommending that. That's just, you know, me editorially taking a stand for a friend, but we got some great questions to get into a raw dog at noon. I mean, what are the time to be alive?

Do you think our competitors are going live today? Luke? I don't think so. No, but they probably also played it smart and pre-recorded. You know what I'm saying? I don't think they have the balls that we do to bring it directly to our people and say,

here is our mailbag. Let's open it together, right? Let's open that bag of mail. First, you have to cough. You know what I mean? All right. There you go. Okay. old guy jokes are over. Hey, let's get into it, folks. This is your questions.

We're going to have some fun. Enjoy the holidays. Hey, get a spiked eggnog. Luke, did you drop in on the eggnog this year? Did I drop in on the eggnog this year? No, no. I did not have eggnog this year. Not once.

Can you believe that? I didn't have any eggnog. That better. You? Yeah, I did. I also had grandma brought over the 7-Up Shirley Temple can, so I got into the sugar a little too hard. I definitely had a few cocktails at that Italian dinner I went to on Christmas Eve.

That was good. That was really good. I had the Ossobucco, the lamb shank. Oh, boy. Now, are you in a very Joseph A. Bank reality like I am post-hol holidays where, man, I'm just spending half my days in that, in that room. I was yesterday. I was setting the world on fire out there. I was Joseph a bank was fresh of the top of mind, but today.

Yes. All right. There we go. Hey, let's get into your questions, folks. I'm sure they're going to be as ridiculous as the things we talk about right before Macy Barber joins the program. This first one is from Michael. He says, happy holidays, diggity donks.

He says, what are the top three, Michael does, the oh shit moments in combat sports history that you wish you could relive? I'm sure, you know, under the guise of watching it for the first time, he said, it doesn't matter the combat sport, boxing, MMA, BJJ, karate combat, whatever. Looking forward to 2025 with you guys. So, Luke, this is the ultimate question. It's the ultimate, you know, Max knocking out Justin Gaethje with no time left at UFC 300. These are the oh shit moments that make us fans, that keep us there.

And I have to say, I never felt something that I felt similar to Holly Holm head kicking Rhonda leading to that upset KO. Luke, is there anything else on that level in terms of the whole shit? Where was it? The function place just tilted. You know what I mean? Like it really did when you're that invested for your job and your passion. Do you have any others like that?

That McDonald's Wi-Fi is an oh shit moment happening right now on your end, buddy. Are you sure any others like that that mcdonald's wi-fi is an oh shit moment happening right now on your end buddy are you sure i mean i can yeah no he was it was happening pre-show a little bit too you got most of your i don't know most of your answer was in there though bc you're right all right so we're looking for combat so it could be any combat sport yes he. He said any discipline, these oh shit moments, which one would you want to relive over again for the first time? Man, that's a great question. I mean, obviously the one with Max this year.

I mean, I know it's recency bias, but at the same time, what Max pulled off is truly one of the greatest moments in UFC history. I don't think that's really, I don't think that's exaggeration. I mean, I'm not saying it's definitive number one, but it's absolutely in the conversation. So there's that. If we're going to go back a little bit further, your point about Rhonda and Holly is a billion percent true. That's a huge one. Can I offer, and the reason why I offer it is because even though it was my, I think

my junior year in high school, I did not watch Foreman versus Moore live. So I heard about that, you know, on like the local news, right? At that point and sort of had to retrace my steps and find the video and rewatch the broadcast. Imagine seeing that in real time, considering Foreman was not only 45, but he had been basically losing every second of that fight through 10 rounds. Dude, I remember I was working for SB Nation at the time, and we were in one of their studios, which was near MSG. They're not there anymore, but they were at the time. And that was when I covered Pacquiao and Marquez, the four.

Oh, good luck. So when Pacquiao went face down and didn't get up for like a long ass time like that was a because folks correct me if I'm wrong BC heading into that fight the narrative was kind of like why is this fight happening again exactly people were excited to make it fatigue yeah people were excited about the style contrast but it wasn't like the fight that had to get made and then Marquez just sent him face first to the canvas in the most insane of ways that was a big one dude I'll even say Lesnar coming back at UFC 116 I believe it was against Shane Carlin was another one how about a deep cut one here's one um when Eves Edwards slept

Josh Thompson we love Josh Thompson but that that kick from Eves was something else um i could even say who was it was it um god um oh and when eves did that to the the jumping knee to who's the brother of andre burto the mma fighter he had he had an mma fighting brother who fought in elite xc and eves edwards hit him with that knee and put him out getting i'm only thinking of his pops who fought at ufc 10 or 11 but uh yeah he had a brother who fought james burdo james edson burdo that's him he went by edson yep um he was really good i can even go a few more deep cuts i'll never forget when jen's pulver came back to ufc and then joe lozon fought him in his ufc debut and then knocked him out within like 30 or 60 seconds, whatever it was, very quickly. That was insane.

I'm going to throw in the Anderson Silva display he did to Forrest Griffin. That was one of those surreal, like is this real? Is this a video game? What is actually happening moment? And then speaking of Anderson submitting Chael at the basically the end of the fifth after getting his

ass whooped for four and a half rounds was insane. So's been a bunch of them man I mean you can go on and on from there there's there I mean and on the I'm trying to think of like other sports that just really kind of blew me away I don't know enough about again it's it's a it's a persistent lack of knowledge between you and I about like the better parts of kickboxing we just don't know enough um I'm sure that sport has an illustrious history of oh shit moments. Anything on the jujitsu side? Maybe a little bit. When Ryan Hall took bronze at ADCC, that was pretty amazing.

I think he did it off a back take. Yeah, I could be wrong about this, but I think he did it off a back take from Jeff Glover. Great moments in BJJ history were when you and I were at Highly High. What's that name of that high rollers high rollers and uh with Emily Whitmire and Cynthia Calvillo and Patchy Mix and Jake Shields I mean what a what a what a weird environment we were in in that nondescript warehouse somewhere in Vegas and had the time of our lives can I get that feeling back right now yeah absolutely that was

a crazy one um so that you could go on and on down. Again, today is the 16th anniversary of Rampage sleeping Vanderlei, which to me was not as big because both guys were post-prime when that happened. But I will say when Rampage beat Chuck in the UFC in his second fight, winning the title, that was a – I can assure you that the world, the casual sports fan who was like slowly turning into UFC was not expecting that. That was a, I can assure you that the world, the casual sports fan who was like slowly turning into UFC was not expecting that. That was a big one.

And my kid is screaming because why wouldn't she be? Oh, well, she's just enjoying life. Probably criticizing Santa's, you know, methods again. And, uh, um, you know, I don't remember where I was, but I remember the feeling I had in that Justine Kish fight. You know, the one I'm talking about. Dude, you, you're, you're obsessed with that one, and I'm like, there are many defecations that came before that.

Asuario Silva. This was female. It smeared all over the canvas. Like, this isn't like, what's that guy, the guy that played on the Colts line, the big fat guy? Saragusa. I'm sure that guy crapped his pants about, you know. The Ravens?

Every other game, yeah, both the Colts and the Ravens. I'm sure guy crapped his pants about you know the ravens every other game yeah both the colts and the ravens i'm sure he crapped his pants every other game luke and we just didn't fully know about it but this was a little bit different i mean front row you got a little on you so to speak yeah the old goose tony saragusa was a big old boy down there wasn't he oh my god they wouldn't even let him in joseph a banks they knew they knew well in advance okay do not come here yes all right thank you michael i don't know if there's anything else i will say uh oh here's another one from metamorris the first time buchesha and hadra gracie went at it like buchesha kind of gave him the business a little bit ended up being a draw because the way the rules work but buchesha was the one that controlled and then they had a rematch and hodger beat the fuck out of him like demolished him and i never ever ever

saw that coming i was so blown away by that so hodger getting revenge on buchesha was a big one too indeed indeed yeah those great i mean it's all about the feeling it gave you looks is sometimes some of those moments are just different than the typical oh shit that was crazy sometimes it messes with your understanding i mean paying your newness sometimes it just messes with your understanding of how the world is supposed to work through the lens of combat sports thank you very much hey how about this relic throwback luke i never wear it because it's a tight medium but look at us happy fat during the old holidays when we had that big budget we're just living life just living it you know what i mean i once bought my dad for christmas underwear with you and i on the ass patch luke i mean that's crazy right we had a good thing going yeah yeah it's not over it's

just in that like real weird period where we don't know if we're coming or going i'm hoping we're coming look i'm always hoping we are hey Hey, this is Telvin right here. He's Telvin Kipapa, baby. Aloha, guys. It's your second favorite Hawaiian right behind Rachel Ostevich. Hey, he's got zingers. That's true. It is true.

My question is with the Hawaii Tourism Department and UFC being in talks about bringing a UFC event to the island in 2025 or the islands. I was wondering who would be your fantasy booking from top to bottom for this event. All right, Luke, Telvin's asking a lot of us, but let's say, do you want to define the first UFC card on Hawaiian soil as a pay-per-view? Will there be a big enough arena to warrant that? Or are we talking fight night here? I think they could do Blaisdell, which I think holds more than 7,000.

So we're talking probably closer to a fight night. night again the timing makes a pay-per-view pretty difficult let's call it a fight night plus which means you get you know a good main a good co-main what would it be luke it would be max in the main event you're damn right it would yeah i mean it's max holloway and then you know everything else is almost a secondary consideration max pahuiway three that'd be sick that'd be super sick i don't know how many hawaiians are really left on the roster i know they had kai kamaka he's out they got brad tavarez i guess you'd put brad on there's a couple hawaiians um i'm sure there are other ones i'm not thinking of you daniega how can i forget daniega yes of course 50k himself you put him on there

i would also say you could probably get away with putting just Pacific Islanders on there, not necessarily Hawaiians, because there is something of a shared community in that. I would be interested. I don't know if UFC would, that they could offer one-fight deals to ex-UFC Hawaiianers who have been waiting for this moment. You know what I'm saying? Who are we thinking of here? Just not BJ Penn.

Not Governor Penn. He'd have to be ceremonial, out and you know address the crowd i'm talking more like um yancey maderos i'm talking about yancey i'm talking about let's bring back uh what was that dude he was a um the spider you could do travis brown holly is the guy's name the spider who's the white dude from hawaii that was that was around in the early 2010s and then he went to bellator you know who i'm talking about i don't i guess i don't all right i'm losing it i'm losing it so there you go but ostovich you can bring ostovich back you can have dana jump off that rock finally if dana could jump off the rock as like the co-main that'd be awesome i'd be in for that for sure. But,

uh, you know, it's elephants, right? It's time. And it's time to get max in there. It's time to get some of these people. I mean,

maybe throw a contract at the pineapple princess, Luke, let's get her in there for one fight. Who's that? Lima, lay McFarland. Oh, what am I saying?

Yes. Yes. I think she, is she retired? I think she, she's done, right? I don't know,

but I've been told by, uh, by people who can see the live chat that the name I was looking for was Kendall Grove. Luke, can we get one more out of him? Yes. It's not the spider. It's da spider. Da spider.

Yeah. Your boy da spider. All right. Uh, thank you for that question. Telvin. May God continue to bless your islands and yourself. I don't think he's white. I think he's, I mean, I know his last name is Grove,

but he's, I think he's of Pacific Islander ancestry. Yeah. I didn't mean to pin him to any specific area, Luke. Okay. I was just being generic and ignorant. That's the American way to be fair.

Right. We all do it. Yeah. Let's go over to Peter. Hey, Peter, Peter saying, Hey fellas,

I'm wondering who you think the least skilled ufc champions of all time are and why maybe post ufc 50 ish due to the limited single discipline skill sets in the early days happy holidays from new brunswick canada first luke before we answer peter's question have you ever been to new brunswick mercifully no yeah i don't i don't know is that where mocked it is i'd love to head over into brunswick georgia and it sucked i cannot imagine new brunswick is all that much newer yeah you're talking about the state of georgia or the land where smoking out of a um homemade you know thing is not Roman deletes. They approve Luke. Okay. You know what I'm saying? About the state where, um, where ludicrous comes from. How about that?

Okay. Okay. So Luke, let's say if we're talking about post you have so almost modern times in UFC, it's an interesting question. It doesn't necessarily mean who are the worst or the least skilled, because sometimes you can have one dominant skill and still get to the very top. Who would you say are the least skilled UFC champions of all time? I'll start.

Nico Montano. That's an obvious one. Definitely, I would. I mean, I feel bad saying stuff like this because some of these guys were good. But you're asking, like, among the very best, who was the least skilled? I'd probably throw Dave Manet in there. Yeah. Dave Manet was a bantamweight champion for a very brief moment um would you throw yuri prohatska in there giving your recent dark heel

turn against everyone at 205 whoever did anything yeah i'd probably throw him i mean he the thing is he's got a yeah i mean yes because he just doesn't have defense like he just doesn't i just never seen someone so disdainful of protecting their face. It's really quite remarkable. He just powers through it because he's a cyborg from the year 2050 sent back in time to murder us. I'm being told by Long Island Luke that New Brunswick is the home of Mocton. So my joke worked. It landed, Luke.

Nice. Via bush plane, I'm sure. Yeah. I'm trying to think. You know, guys who were good back in the day, Murillo Bustamante I actually do think was really talented, but by modern standards he wouldn't be that good. Obviously, Hoyce Gracie.

I mean, forget it. He's terrible. But important, important, you know, important, certainly. Well, he's pre-UFC 50 time. We're talking about relatively modern era so are we are we missing any obvious sluggers who made it to the top i mean what about forrest griffin luke would you call him overly skillful he became it over time i mean i think i i i do respect how much he got better i think he obviously hit a ceiling you know what i mean he definitely

hit one but he for a time he had know, was he the most skilled champion? No, obviously not. Rashad was much better than him, and others were as well. Tim Sylvia, Luke. Tim Sylvia. All right. He was big. That's an interesting one because Tim Sylvia did have some skills.

He just didn't have much athleticism. That, to me, was kind of the issue. He was just big and plotting and didn't really know athleticism that to me was kind of the issue he was just big and plotting and didn't really know what he was doing with himself but you know worked insanely hard on his skill development and I granted that even then that wasn't always enough who else was like somebody who just really was like you couldn't believe it um man that's tough I mean can I ask you who the least skilled ufc champion is right now or would that open up bad lane yeah i mean we're just gonna get i don't know when people do this

they ask me this kind of question at times and it's like it's just gonna launch a thousand angry videos at us and i just don't fucking feel like dealing with the the with that um you know why do we never talk about sean shirk anymore? Speaking of a... Because he what? He was skilled. He also did a lot of PEDs at a time when you could get caught for it. It's funny how guys like that have

disappeared from the memory to a lot of the narrative. He got beat by BJ Penn and I don't think... He was never a big media guy anyway um but he was a good character for that era the most he also had the one of the best nicknames ever the muscle shark yes just an unbelievable name yeah that guy always knew where the weight room was you got a shout out to that guy right addies baddies peds whatever was available that guy

there it is bits baby you don't baby. You don't miss an opportunity. Yeah, well, stay tuned to the show. We'll be giving away a truck later to one of our own employees. It'll be great. Let's carry on with the questioning here in this mail bag. This one's out to Mark from Mark with a C. How old were you guys when you found out, oh, oven mitts over the years of your young ones, when you found out about Santa Claus?

My guess for Luke is somewhere in the neighborhood of eight years old but judging by how shockingly naive bc is about exciting combat sports rumors my guess for him that i may be shattering his christmas dreams live on the air with this question that's hilarious 100 chance he runs upstairs and asks his wife uh yeah when this is over hey merry christmas fellas mark says luke that's a great question we've hit this topic before i was late dude i was like fifth grade late i was down to me and one other person in my fifth grade class who was holding on luke they were oh we were holding on right you were like what like 10 or 11 uh nine to be fair i've turned 10, I think, the summer after.

But I've held it against my parents for a long time. But Luke, I'm going to guess, given your demeanor, that four years old is probably the limit. You would have allowed something like that in your life. I mean, I can't say exactly when it was, but I can just tell you by the time i was in second and third grade i for sure knew that it wasn't real but were you that pedantic guy who was telling everyone matter-of-factly why they were wrong and then trying to give like scientific theories to back it up no because my brother was the one that told me he was the one who like i don't know how we came i can't remember exactly how it was but i remember i was with him and because i was a little

brother and a group of his friends and then they all told he told me then like they kind of confirmed it and it was like one of those like what the i can't remember then pull out an adult magazine and break your uh the whatever was left of your uh you know your natural um what's the word i'm looking for luke your, if you will. Will you? Have you? I don't think it was that same conversation, but probably soon thereafter, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Once that goes, Luke, it's kind of downhill from there. You know what I mean? It's, you know, yeah. Or up, depending on your perspective. That is true. Up for a little bit. Yeah, for sure, Luke. Wow, all right. Okay, enough of that. There's probably kids listening. or up depending on your perspective that is true you know up for a little bit you know yeah that's

for sure luke and uh wow all right okay enough of that there's probably kids listening i do feel bad luke every time the the opening is there the the lob has been thrown for me to dunk down just a no brain crowd-pleasing splash of an inappropriate joke and then i think about the families that are driving down the road because they're stubborn dead must get his mk with man fuck them kids just say the fucking joke oh wow there you go hey it's up to you as a parent to bring luke thomas into your kids lives right now it's up to you parents let's go to fernando he says what does a successful 2025 look like for morning combat as a show, any goals or objectives for next year? Luke, well,

this is a recurring topic you could say in this show, but we've said, or I've said that, you know, the big one for me is let's get our own studio. Let's own it, rent it, sneak into it,

whatever it is. Let's get our own studio. Let's bring the carnival hijinks back to where this show was built from and let's explore those segments that we used to be known for that we no longer do that to me is the way this is the way luke okay mandalorian yeah i mean i would say that is a big one but for me it's going to be just scaling up the content so like the stuff we used to do i don't know what resume review so much but um certainly you know pre-games and um i definitely like you know the uc's ufc and other promotions boxing too are going to go to new york city this year i kind of feel like we need to leverage that i mean i want to say this too like i don't know exactly how much is possible like some of this is

still like trying to be figured out but like one thing being BC and I discussed was like at a bare minimum, and obviously we hope for more than this, but like at a bare minimum, one thing we would really like to do this year is if nothing else, when they come to New York city, do some tweet ups, Hey, we're going to be here. Come hang. I've done them before in the past for situations like that. And everyone seemed to have a great time.

So, you know, we asked fighters like what percentage of your ambition and goals are fueled by money once in a while? Is it about the title or money? What percentage of you saying that is the hope that our fans slide you contraband during the greeting portion of the event? 100%. 100%. Because we've been to other events where they did that, and it was fucking awesome. I hope our fans just walk in and Scott Stapp us can you can we take you higher mk folks yeah yes you can okay

yes you can always do that in fact i've got another message for you home and now i'm six feet from the edge and i'm thinking Maybe Six feet Ain't so Far down If I had AIDS and a squirt gun I would shoot you in the face with that McDonald's Fucking wifi you have Okay we can call them Creed ups alright that's what we can do

Creed ups that's not bad i like that creed and weed look how about that i told you this bro like i you know i follow a bunch of fitness accounts on ig and stuff and fucking all of them are posting lifting videos to creed in the background now granted it's all the white guys but nevertheless it has made a real comeback in ways about it america's back right you know depending on where you stand politically america's back baby why can't creed come back it's that time now luke i mean kid rocks a an a-list celebrity cage side at the damn ufc it's time to let creed back in the building and in your life the reason they can't come back is because they're terrible that's why

no that's where it's wrong because even if you're on the fence about this idea listen to what bc says the first record my own prison still bangs still to this day dionte to this day all right to this day that's what i'm talking about thank you uh thank you for your question fernando luke any other specifics of what you would like to see on mk in this new year um i mean i could always get greedy but I think that's kind of really what I'm focused on. All right. I'd like to get out there, touch some fans again. I'm with you on that regard. I'd like to be your favorite podcaster's favorite podcast all over again.

All right. There was a time. There was a time. Do you remember time? Let's go to Greg. We know Greg. I'm sure this is the Greg who lifts weights with a long beard. Great guy. He says, hey, guys, thanks for another great year of coverage mk all day i have two questions for this mailbag episode number one who is your breakout pick for i'm sorry who's your

pick for ufc breakout star in 2025 and number two given the current stake of conor mcgregor's personal and professional life what would be a realistic storybook ending to Conor's career? Luke, number one, this is not our prediction show. That's to come next week. But is there an answer different than Peyton Talbot for who is your UFC breakout star pick for 2025? That's an interesting question. I mean, the answer could also be Umar Nurmagomedov,

by the way. Umar is a big one. I think Umar is about to have a good year. Um, Hmm. Peyton's a good one. You can't say Buckley anymore, right?

Cause he fought four times and he really like really, we kind of broke out this year. Didn't he? Well, if he won the championship in the new year, yes. That breakout star turn yes that is yeah yeah that's a big one um you can't say Tatiana Suarez even if she wins the title right because she's kind of been lingering there's been a lot of stop and start and so I guess you can I mean no you I guess you can't you're right be a comeback story the comeback story yes you're right you're right it would

be a comeback story that's right you guys gotta kind of have to i guess peyton is probably one of your answers but i'm sure that there's somebody we're sleeping on that is going to have a much better year than that um i don't know is there a dark horse young heavyweight that we're not talking about enough or do these guys inevitably find their way into a rose and struke fight and maybe they catch a loss and then they're all just another pile of meat in the meat pile. There's a lot of Tybura's out there, Luke. I haven't seen an exciting heavyweight beyond the ones that we already

like, you know, our Blades, our Aspinall, stuff like that at all. Well, there was a hot window, you could argue, that when Pavlovich and Gylton Almeida, along with Tom Aspinall, made it look like a new era was potentially upon us. That's true, and then there just wasn't.

I'm thinking on the women's side of the game. I mean, Dakota Ditch if I had a breakout year this year, so that's not really – but again, she could do something big next year. We'll have to see. Yeah, Peyton's an interesting one, but even that one seems very, very speculative. He's just stands out because he's very different than everybody else, you know, on a personal level.

This might not fit the criteria, but what if Kayla Harrison becomes UFC champion? Is there another leap she can make star wise? Or do you think celebrity wise, she's close to hitting her ceiling? The problem that she is going to face is I think she is going to win the title. I think she is going to be UFC champion again. What a combat sports career she'll have when it's all said and done she just needs foes and i don't know if they cyborgs gone amanda nunez i mean you know if amanda nunez comes back that's a little bit of a different story right but if she doesn't i mean it's you know i hate to i hate to give him too much credit but gary shaw one once said something

about kimbo being like you know kimbo's great but you need two people to make a fight and you need two people to make a story you need two people to really elevate something one person just cannot do it solo i think that's what she's up against is can the ufc find her some opponents to get there i'd be curious to ask long island luke He does most of these things under the influence of medical marijuana. But anyone out there on the come up that you got your eye on? You were talking young heavyweights. I was looking at Mick Parkin. He's not that exciting, but he's 4-0 in the UFC.

He's undefeated. He's only 29 years old. He looks moderately interesting. We just don't know enough yet. But I don't think that's the worst call. And everyone is spamming in the chat Carlos Prates, who I would argue is kind of like buckley he kind of had his he fought four times this year you know what i mean like i agree don't get me wrong i'm high on his future but he kind of had a big year this year you know i agree it's also just high uh luke would you agree a play on

your words of uh foes before hoes i'm gonna pick the hose over the foes i mean i don't know how you guys are feeling but luke definitely though does have foes in different area codes in this game okay one of them you wanna but we're gonna break that this year that's one of my mk goals fernando thank you for your question i wouldn't call that a foe i just don't care anymore these well i still care a lot the second half of greg's question is luke giving the current state of mcgregor's personal and professional life what would be a realistic storybook ending to connor's career i mean is he trying to say that would happen this year i mean i don't know i mean they're asking us to read like i don't i don't i i'm not he's the storybook is he asking us for like a good moment like a big win that can like what if he fought Nate in a trilogy

and the fight turned out to be a fun old guy scrap and Connor won it's just weird that they're asking us to like rehabilitate his image I don't I don't have any well this is MMA most people don't believe he did anything Luke you know what I'm saying that's true that's true yeah uh I'm not sure how to answer that one because I that's so far from my mind if you have a version i'd be happy to hear well i think the better question is what big names remaining could he still beat i think that's the real question could he beat nate maybe yeah i think i think they're both at a point where yes he could he could let me ask you this one okay he's gonna fight or at least there's a decent chance he'll fight i guess logan paul or something right no it's been changed to jake paul seriously the report so that's what i heard too or at least there's a decent chance he'll fight, I guess, Logan Paul or something, right? No, it's been changed to Jake Paul.

Seriously, the report is- Okay, so that's what I heard, too, or at least what I saw out there. I mean, who knows if it's true. But, like, dude, he can't beat Jake Paul in boxing, right? No, no, no. I think Jake beats him pretty cleanly. Dude, Jake might actually F him up. Or am I overvaluing the combination of Jake's size, power, and experience in actual boxing? Because it's a big size gap.

It's like Mike Perry versus Jake. Let's be careful. That's a big part of it. There's a huge gap. And again, I go back to it. Conor doesn't have great cardio. And you could say whatever else you want about Jake. He can punch.

Like, he can punch. And Conor's in full-blown life at the moment. He's in full-blown 365 mode. So, you know. Yeah. So, i don't know i mean i mean if you're asking like from the pro connor side such that that you want to i think getting a fight against nate in the trilogy would be kind of big i mean i don't know if it's a storybook but it would be good for him probably yes right um i'm hoping they're not going to try it.

It's do you think we're way past the idea of gratuitously slipping in him into a welterweight title shot without earning it? Like we're way past that. That's not even in the conversation. Correct. I don't think the UFC is interested in that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

It could be, it could be wrong. It could be wrong. Let's go to Roberto. Roberto has the next question. Hey guys, first time, long timer here coming to you from the ATL.

So I'm unfortunately going through the homelessness of at the moment, and I'm looking for a bit of inspiration slash hope from my two favorite guys in the MMA world. What helped you get through some of your darkest hours in life? And what are you most thankful for after having survived those times? Thanks for all of the content. I never miss a video and I never stopped believing in you guys, even after the post showtime drama. Wow.

This guy's stuck with us. Like, like fun guy, Luke hairs to a great 2025. So, you know, with respect, Roberto is,

is battling, battling some, some odds right now, Luke homeless at the moment, but this is a temporary situation, Roberto Luke, what would you say? Ultimately has allowed you to get through the hardest stretches of your life. What is the thing you clung to anger? Um, booze. No, I'm teasing. Uh, that actually got nowhere. Although I did cling to it. It just didn't do me any good. Dude, sometimes people are looking for some kind of profound wisdom, and I have found that through my own tragedy.

Of course, there's lots of different things that you have to do in certain ways, but if there's one underlying feature of it, it is that I just said it before, BC. I was joking before, but it actually is true you got to keep living right you you simply have to just wake up the next day work through it even though it doesn't feel good and you don't want to and you might be sad about the certain state of things and you have to do it the next day and the next day and it sort of sounds like i'm making it be like some kind of endless prison sentence it's actually not what i mean what i mean is that there is once you're in the fire there really is no way out of it at that point other than to go through it you have to walk through it and that's hard to tell somebody when they're in the middle of the fire they're like oh my god just pull me out it doesn't really work that way you just have to keep putting one foot

in front of the other and then you'll be surprised two months, six months, however long down the road, that some lucky event will happen, or something else will catch your eye, or some idea will occur to you, or somebody will do something nice for you. And again, there will be bad parts along that way, too. It's never even. But the point you have to make is you just have to keep putting one foot in front of the other it's not easy advice and it's not necessarily like the most calming advice but it is the truest one that i have found you must keep moving forward even if it's like bc like it feels like it's just mechanical you know i'm doing a literal interpretation walking but you get the idea it ties into the the idea of you're going through hell, keep going.

But I think the key part of the going through it is you have to process it. You have to grieve it. You have to work through it and come to terms with it because if you numb it away, it's going to be a, you know, a giant weight that's following you forever. And if you just ignore it and go on and throw all your efforts passionately into something else to block out the feelings, oh boy, it's going to find a way to come back around to get on you. So yeah, it's not get comfortable in hell. It's just get through it, man. All right. So it'll pass. We're going to do it. Roberto, you're going to have a big year, bro. Okay. Not only will MK be back, you're going to

have a big year. All right. Keep going. You got us. We got you. Let's get through this together, okay? Luke, let's hear another one here as we are about 15 minutes out from the great Brandon Royval. Raw dogging it back on our show. Let's go over to Vincent. He says, if you can make any fight between two people from the past who are not boxers or MMA fighters alive or dead, what matches would you make?

What is one? All right, that's the first question luke is there any historical figures that never fought in mma or boxing that you would like to i mean would you like to see burr versus hamilton to the old-fashioned way i'll say this it's not exactly what he's asking but it is something that i know a lot of fans have probably mma have probably thought about i know i've thought about it we We've talked about it before. I would have loved to have seen Terrence Crawford fight MMA. I think that would have been cool. Now, he's a boxer, so it doesn't really count in the way he's talking about, but someone who never fought MMA fighting MMA, I think that

would have been interesting. I think that would have been really interesting. Would you have liked to have seen Shaquille O'Neal, given his size, yet speed and athleticism? That's an interesting one. In either MMA or boxing, right? We got little snippets of it. He's been close to MMA. Remember he did that boxing show against both Mosley and De La Hoya, where they did like a kind of an exhibition, kind of fake, kind of real. I always wondered if he had taken a celebrity fight in the UFC octagon as some CM Punk-type moment, that would have been exciting as hell to see.

That would have been big. Joe Rogan almost fought Wesley Snipes. I forget which event it was. Yes. Where you can actually hear Joe call him out during the commentaries, like if my friend Wesley Snipes is watching, let's do it. That would have been kind of interesting. Always bet on black in that scenario look hey the man back in the day but obviously that would have been a tough fight for him um except for his battle with the

tax man pretty consistent you know what i mean someone someone taunted him on twitter about that years ago and then he quote tweeted him being like yeah you can catch these hands tax-free i thought that was a great response um who's like us you know our former president abraham lincoln was a wrestler that would have been kind of interesting to see him mix it up back in the car i'd like to see that guy run the pipe a little if you know what i'm saying luke right i bet you do you motherfucker i bet you do for historical purposes yeah oh yeah for historical purposes oh hey oh what do you make of this current um joe rogan stephen a smith bs that's going back and forth um is did it was this sincere did stephen a smith really say like seriously that if if joe rogan and i fought and i gave him my best punch like there'd be probably bc bc between this and the lebron response to colby i think you have a problem with fake news nowby, I think you have a problem with fake news.

Now, to be clear, we all have a problem with fake news. I've been duped before as well. Well, dude, I just didn't care enough to dig it up. What is it? Is it really fake? It's completely fake. It never happened. Sorry. See, I got confused because there's a real thing going on with Shannon Sharp and all of his ESPN colleagues.

Yeah, that is real. And I'm like, what might show up? Let me ask you that. You used to work at ESPN colleagues? Yeah, that is real. And I'm like, let me ask you that. You used to work at ESPN. How much of a difference is now relative to what it used to be in terms of like how ESPN talking heads talk about each other? Yeah, it used to be aggressively not allowed for any form of public criticism of your colleagues or your competitors, to be fair. Like that you knew about that almost day one, that that's something that will not be tolerated and isn't good for business, but it's changed. And some of the changing of that landscape has surrounded the situations involving like

Pat McAfee, who his show is basically licensed to ESPN. They don't have editorial control. So in this spot, he can be a little bit looser and freer. And I think he's just naturally that way anyway, but we're seeing maybe because these guys, you know, look at Shannon Sharpe, look how So in this spot, he can be a little bit looser and freer. And I think he's just naturally that way anyway. But we're seeing maybe because these guys, you know, look at Shannon Sharp, look how successful he is outside of that. He doesn't have to kiss up to keep a job. Like, you know what I mean? They came to him. They want him.

So, but it is, you know, the me who's going to sit in the back and be like, yeah, yeah. Like, it's entertaining, right? It is. It's just, it's just, it's just, it just shows just shows now that like the corporate media the and i'm not saying i like shannon sharp but i'm using the i'm using the the phrase the inmates run the asylum like the talent runs the show the show doesn't run the talent like it used to it's right do you think that'll lead inevitably to fake knockoff jerry springer-esque beefs between espn talents and it'll be like first take, took the bait,

and put it in a blender and kind of ruined it. I think that there will probably be some limits to it, but I think we're not at the end of that yet. I will say, to get him back to the question, we never talked about this, guys like Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, these lockdown defenders, how would they have done in boxing or MMA? Probably would have done fucking great. You know what I mean?

Okay. I'm just saying, I like some of the drama that comes out of this shit, Luke. And like, if you and I got to the point where we were so bitter that we were like, F the other guy, I'm not talking to him.

I will do the show, but it's like, you know, late area, late period, Mike and the mag dog. We are not driving in the same cab. I will not be sending him a Christmas card.

If we get to that point, I think it would only help the entertainment and the ratings for us to go public with it and then the fans can take sides and then you know we can the only person who thinks or fantasizes about this between you and i is you i never have thoughts like these you have thoughts like these relentlessly i want to be very clear about that. This is a very one-sided fantasy. It really is. It's taking something awful and making it a positive, maybe. Hey, Luke, the other half of Vincent's question is, what is one purchase you've made that has genuinely

changed your life and not enough people know about it? He also wanted to know what we are grateful of, which we've hit aggressively around Thanksgiving time, but I'm grateful for you, though. Vincent, I'm grateful for you. What do you got? I don't remember exactly when this was, but there was a point when I realized that, again, please don't make me just talk about the ins and outs. Just let me get through the sentence, which is that it was a previous place I worked at, which I realized was not going to do for me what I wanted done in my career. So I had to get done

myself. I had to do that stuff myself. I just could not wait around any longer. It was, you know, either I was going to do it or it wasn't going to happen at all, but I didn't really, I didn't have any equipment to start BC. And I looked at what I thought I needed and some of this was wrong, but I don't want to, I want to get through the story. I wasn't making much money at the time and I needed stuff, but I had a little bit of income and I actually took out a very, very small business loan. I took out a $20,000 small business loan. And the reason I did that was because I had a YouTube channel at the time making money, not what it makes now, but a little bit. And I used that money to buy the

computer I have here, a bunch of other things that I really needed to get started, my first good camera, some decent lighting, blah, blah, blah. And in doing that and then scaling up operations, I was able to pay that loan back super fast. Like I was actually worried like, hey, am I making an irresponsible financial decision in doing this, blah, blah, blah. No, it worked out magnificently. So I'm not telling everyone go take business loans. What I'm saying is I took a moment in time to carefully, and probably in some sense reservedly, but forthrightly to take a loan out, bet on myself, and move forward with it. And it has paid for itself many, many, many, many times over.

I feel that's one thing I really did for myself that changed the nature of my professional work. For sure. That's awesome to hear Luke. I love stories like that. Seriously, no jokes, no skits and bits where people basically hit a certain crossroads where they're like, you know, what I'm going to swing big, or I'm going to fail, but I'm going to do it on my own at my peak right now. It's time. This is the way, this is the way I'm in. Those are the turning point moments in our lives and careers, Luke. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes you got to mount up that sack and carry it with you. And you've done that and look at you today. I'm grateful for that, Luke. You know, you, I think you've showed a lot of people in this space that you can be successful

doing this and set a roadmap for that. I'm not successful in that area. It's just kind of for fun shits and giggles, but it puts shoes on Tukey, and I can appreciate that. Again, it's like there's any number of things that can go wrong and do go wrong and blah, blah, blah.

I see a lot of people bet on themselves, and it goes badly because sometimes that's too big of a bet. This was was a small one this was in the end it was a pretty small one but it it worked i i'm trying to think of like a small but clear thoughtful decision i've made that came out better than that one i don't think i have that one just worked it worked so fucking well and i'm grateful that i i did it you know indeed well done there let's keep that going as we get closer to brandon royvall's arrival here this is from devin with the recent rumors

about connor and logan paul boxing do you think this is the thing that just started to come together for 2025 that dana white said that will blow everyone's minds seems like very funny timing luke are you of the opinion that that tease from dana that a call appeared to him the couple days before about a fight that none of us would believe it ain't that it ain't a boxing match between either paul brother and connor it's not but come on that's not even close to what he was mma mania reported that it was um are you serious yeah is he believing that it might be Logan in an MMA or hybrid fight? Do you think? I can only say what he care about the boxing side as much, right?

Keeps Connor busy. They don't, they're going to make money from it. They don't have to, they're not on the hook for anything. Like you think this gets his bosses off of him to some degree, like this might be something they really want. So it's sort of like, all right, you know, let's keep them happy probably some of that you know i think i think there's probably a lot of ways that they like what that offers to be honest with you um maybe it offers dana's boxing hopes of a grand stage maybe dana watch seriously oh are you

thinking about like uh more like a zumba boxing kind of thing i'm thinking maybe dana was what could be thinking of what it could do for him and his hopes in terms of rounding out his legacy as a promoter. Boxing seems to be important to him. I'm sure he saw everyone talking about Tyson versus Paul, saw the success Netflix had, the challenges they had, and probably thinking, if I can take my fighters or the thing I'm trying to do and link it up to that, maybe everyone wins.

I'm trying to make it work under how we know Dana to be stubborn, of the things that we believe Dana cares about. I suspect your assessment is as good or better than mine. I don't even have one. I'm just telling you what MMAma mania ryan harkness reported um i i don't i don't you know what's interesting like 2024 was by no means by no means a bad year for ufc that is absolutely not what it was but it wasn't like it was a crazy amazing year and that's okay not every year has to be but i guess i'm only saying this because i don't quite have a feeling for what 2025

is going to be if that makes sense yeah because it was just it was like a good year not a great year not a bad year but it was a good year it was a good year for them with some great moments and then you know obviously some dreck along the way too it just leaves me in a place where I can't I can't quite see what lane it's settling into for the upcoming calendar I guess I guess we're gonna have to wait yeah it's almost like that to be fair in boxing too i think the the the picture is coming together clearer slowly but i think we had a great year for big events almost all of them fueled by saudi arabia and turkey al-ashik and i think with the recent you know success of the rematch with fury and usik linked with the ring purchase and all the things that that

that the turkey run boxing is gonna is gonna run i mean you can argue that the next six months could be some of the most important times in box in the boxing business space that we've ever seen maybe going back to al hayman launching pbc in 2015 so i'm really nervously excited for the business for everything to see how the chips fall i mean we actually could see like pretty much almost exclusive elite consolidation under one flag in boxing which is hard to imagine but but on the table yes yeah which is always the knee jerk how do you fix the sport well that but i think we're we're all sort of leery in our own ways in certain categories about what the price is for that right

but we'll see true but we'll see yeah you're right i mean again it's um i do think there will be big changes in combat sports coming up at 2025. it's just hard to know what that's all going to mean it's just too early to tell yeah indeed let's hear from joseph who says who would you favor in a matchup between heavyweight Cyril gone and Alex Pereira? He says, hold on. I got to,

there he goes. He says, I feel like even if Alex loses to uncle, I have, he could move up to heavyweight and get a title shot with a win over gone. And after what we saw against Volkov, I think Alex could possibly even finish this version of gone. What are your guys' thoughts?

Thanks. Have a hundred wonderful holidays. Luke, do you, what do you think? i've seen twitter talking about this idea the idea of alex perera trying heavyweight and cyril gone being the right guy he's not going to take him down per se what do you think this matchup that's sort of the central question is does he yes does he yes i don't know about that i i tend to think that he maybe wouldn't i don't think that gone excuse me i don't think that poetan does all that well in a world where tom aspinall is up there i think tom aspinall is just not even going to around and take him right down and that's going

to be that the gone one is interesting bro the gone one is super interesting now gone can play keep away he when he wants to he does have good I should say active footwork. Good is a little bit of a strong way to put that now. Cause dude, he's regressed so bad. It's ridiculous, but I think poets on can win that fight. I mean, at a bare minimum, that's winnable in more than a technical sense, right? Okay. Like any fight is winnable. I have a chance against Tom Aspinall. In reality, it's infinitesimal, but okay, anything can happen. That's a real one. That's a real one that I think Poiton can actually

win. But then you get up to a guy like Aspinall. I mean, the difference between these guys, you know, in terms of at least what we've seen is so vast. It's like could he beat Gon? Yeah, I think he could actually, but then you got to fight Tom Aspinall and then I don't know what's going to happen after that. Yeah, I mean, it is interesting in the same way

of when Anderson Silva was strategically used for light heavyweight one-offs when they needed a big main or co-main or they need to go up against a rival. I mean, it could be a great way to test the water without throwing him directly into Jon Jones versus Aspinall to become the first three division champion.

It might be a soft launch into that, but I don't really know what's, I don't know what's happening. If it ain't Ankalayev, who is it, Luke? Is it gone? Dude, if they don't give that shot to Ankalayev, what the fuck are they doing? What are they doing at that point? That's insane. I just don't know how people can in the membrane except that. No. All right. We have a question from TJ, who is probably a huge MMA and Dillashaw fan. TJ says, I'm a MMA donk who doesn't follow boxing except what I hear from you two. I understand why there are multiple belts per weight class, but I have two questions.

Does every weight class have the same number of belts? Do some belts have more prestige than others? That's a great question for you, BC. It's actually a good one how what do you say yeah so the basic foundational structure in boxing at the moment is 17 weight classes and four major sanctioning bodies that are accepted on the same level more or less and we're talking about the wba wbc wbo and ibf each one in theory would have one champion per division so you'd have 17 times four but we've talked a lot about the WBA in particular ruining the game in that regard by creating constant unnecessary interim or secondary ones that are like the WBA regular champion but yet

if I tune in when they're fighting on fight night they'll be announced as the WBA champion of the world which they're not they're the second best they'll be announced as the WBA champion of the world, which they're not. They're the second best in their own division in the WBA and one of four and now five recognized champions, which is a lot of bullshit. We've justified it just by looking at it as a championship as much as a you absolutely have the next chance in a celebrity way. Like you've just earned it. You're the guy you're next. But it gets worse when the WBC now has super champions where a big name fighter can just become the super champion, not have to do mandatories and kind of be allowed to do whatever they want, not follow rules. Why does the WBC do that? Because they want people like Canelo Alvarez to always defend their

belt, pay them that large sanctioning fee, which is what, like 10% or 3% or whatever it is of his total purse. So how many champions are there? It becomes bullshit. In theory though, in theory, all four of the major title holders are the same in importance but boxers and then the opinion of boxing in general seems to favor that the most glamorous is the green belt the wbc even though the wbc breaks a lot of rules and makes a lot of donk decisions that's considered the the the biggest one outside of the ring magazine title the ring magazine title really before oscar de la jolla purchased the ring magazine title, the ring magazine title really before Oscar De La Hoya purchased the ring and kept it alive was considered the lineal belt in each division.

They had sharp rules that said you can only become the ring champion. If the number one versus number two recognized fighters are fighting against one another. So it's like, you can only get it by doing it the hard way, the old fashioned way. And you are the champion of that division. But when Oscar bought it, he changed the ranking rules and the eligibility, and it kind of bastardized the process. That belt lost its luster. That belt, by the way, I think is going to get returned to huge luster under Turkey Al-Ashiq and the purchase of the ring. And I don't think that's bad. There's a lot of shitty belt in boxing, but as long as we have an idea of who's either the lineal champion or the ring champion in each division, it starts to cut through some of that bullshit at least.

It makes where we have one sort of real belt and then a bunch of regional titles. It's almost to me like my kids run cross country and track in Connecticut high school and you'll go to your class championship, which is in every state, you know, based on size. And then if you win that, you go to the state Open, and it's everyone against each other. I hate it that we have this many titles, Luke, but you really can never trust when you see, oh, this guy's the interim WBC champion, so that must be real, right? No, that's not real.

You know, 80% of the time, that's not real. That's just to sweeten up the TV offering on that night. That's a fair recitation, BC. Yeah, there there you go i hit that hard um is our get has our guest been raw and arrived he is so let's not waste any more time talking about flushing the toilet or boxing let's get raw let's bring on the dog i'm talking about ufc flyweight contender uh He hails, I believe, from the Denver area, Coloradian, and he's, you know, MK for life. It's Brandon Royval. Welcome to the show, Raw Dog.

A moving vehicle as well. This could be reality TV. I hope it ends well for you. It ends well. I pause it as soon as I start the interview. I don't play like that. Oh, there he is. There he is.

I appreciate that. Raw Dog, big news, play like that. Oh, there he is. There he is. I appreciate that. Raw Dog, big news, obviously, for you with Manel Copp and we'll get to that. But how's life? How are things? Did you have a great holiday over there in Colorado? What's the dish on the dog right now? Yeah, yeah, it's good, man. I mean, I don't know.

It's like super hot out here and there's like hasn't been snowing forever. So it's really buying into this global warming thing that these Democrats have been making up, you know? No, I'm just playing. It's fucking, it's so hot. Oh my God. So kind of getting worried about, you know, am I even going to be around by the time this fight comes about, you know?

I'm sure there's uh those things flying in the air following over you and recording your every move and it's probably bryce mitchell on the other end watching you that's probably what's happening right i know that's why i was like fuck where am i seeing about my girls on yeah yeah exactly exactly this guy's got the mcdonald's just me i don't know but he definitely got the McDonald's Wi-Fi alright there he is I think he's back at it we'll have to translate that afterwards but Raw Dog if you can hear me

I know we've always got the great you know joke of how you oh is that even let's take a moment let's pull him out Long Island Luke if you can just very quickly yeah very quickly and then let's see if we can get his signal righted and then we'll bring him right back here we're gonna get him here just a second we're gonna get that hey listen he's doing it from the

car which by the way is where a lot of interviews happen these days and sometimes that can work out well sometimes not so well yeah people solicit things in the car too he's very you know all right let's bring him back let's bring his life's work you know it's life's office there in a lot of ways. We've reconnected with the raw dog. Can we see him? We hear him. Sorry, I had to put on my spot. All right, we'll see how long this holds.

Is it still pausing? Yeah, it's a little janky. It's a little janky. A little janky-packy out there. I'm sorry. Do you guys want me to drive up the block or some shit like that? It's actually cooking right now. You can hear us at least, Raw Dog, right?

You're hearing what I'm saying. Oh, I can hear you guys fine. There's just a delay from me talking to you guys. Let's just stick with it. All right. Raw Dog, you play up a lot for kids with six baby mamas, but I think you're a very – Instagram's telling me you're a very happy man these days. Is that true?

I mean, yeah, for sure. I think I've been a little diabolical with this whole entire UFC stuff. So I'm trying to work on that for sure. I feel like I was like – you know, and it is what it is. But I don't know. Like I said, I just, I'm trying to make the best situation out of this. And, uh, you know, fighting man, all Cape is, it's a scary fight no matter what, but, um, you know, I just want something big, you know? And, uh, I keep fighting these numbers, these people ranked a little bit behind me. And

it's like, I get it. I get it. They don't want to give me the rematch, so it is what it is. But it's just like, if I don't get this title shot ever and I keep beating these guys that if they beat me, they're getting a title shot, then anybody who's going to fight Pantoja from here on out is going to have an L that says Raw Dog next to their name. I want to talk about the cop fight in just a second, but let's get back to that Pantoja fight.

What was your biggest takeaway once that fight was over about him? Why is he on top? And give me the biggest learning lesson you took from that. My biggest learning lesson this time was I just played it safe, bro. I was really worried about giving up my back, so my whole entire game plan was to not give up my back and i just took away what i think is the best part of me against pantoja is uh it's just going for broke you know and uh i feel like i played that fight way too safe and uh even in the first fight it's like i did get choked but it's like i gave up my back a million times he couldn't really do anything with it until he did

you know and uh i feel like playing that game plan of like, you know, giving up positions but scrambling and trusting my scrambability. I don't know if that's a word, but like trusting my scrambles to get out of those positions is really what's going to wear a guy like Pantoja out, and that's where I strive is just being in that deep and ready to drown motherfuckers, you know? What did you make of the Pantoja-Asakura fight? I thought Pantoja looked great, man. I think Pantoja keeps improving.

I think this is one of the, like, maybe it's like a Drakus-Duplessis thing. He looks so sloppy, and I believe it too. It's like, you know, to a certain degree, his style can't work out constantly because he runs into big punches, but it's like, as far as, like, what he does, man, that guy has this iron chin. He's going to go forward. He's going to bring a fight. And I feel like some of the stuff that he did was just so, like, wow. Like, the back take was so amazing.

He, like, single-legged him, like, scooped it. And then Asakura put his back to the cage. Then he went the other side and scooped it. And then took him down and then took the back. The way he fought the hands to get that back take was dope. I think they made a book about how he was, like, Oscar jumping, doing these things, but he just wasn't able to jump, and it was like, those are some quick adjustments on the fly against a dangerous opponent, and Pantoja looks sloppy doing what he does sometimes I think he looked less sloppy

in that fight than any of the other fights he's been in but uh he did some great things like you know if you watch him and like also I felt him too it's like that guy is one of the stronger uh guys I've ever grappled with let alone just flyweights you know and it's like I know he hits hard I know I know he's super strong and I know's super strong. And I know he's just like, he's just like super physical. He's a very physical person, you know? And I feel like he brings that a lot too. And it's just like, I see what people like,

you know, like the outside looking in, it's just like, some of it's like so ugly. And it's like, what he's doing is just some dope shit in there. And I have a lot of respect for Pantoja. I have a lot of like, youosia i have a lot of like uh you know he's my only al in the ufc right now that i consider like you can count the moreno as a loss but i don't i really don't um but i don't know i have a lot of respect for what that guy does so one thing that i always keep going back to is you know he's had wars over and over

and over again and i'm just like all right well he's 34 like the you know the shoes about the shoes about to drop on this one like how many times can a guy go through this kind of battles and and not have some kind of slowdown from it but he doesn't ever seem to have a like like the damage doesn't ever seem to affect them are you amazed by that it's like like we are yeah yeah bro i've watched i i watched a video of like i know this is just me like in my fight but i was also in it and he changed levels and i threw a knee right up the middle and i probably never timed a knee so perfectly in my life and that motherfucker didn't flinch he walked right through it and took me down i was like holy shit like i like it made a

impact sound like me might up and was like, a knee might be my best weapon. And I know I'm a scrawny little fucker, but I have good knees, I have good kicks. I hit as far as those two weapons go. And he walked right up and didn't flinch. So it's like, I don't know what they think Kaikara France can do to him,

but it's like, I think Pantoja is a nightmare matchup for a guy like kai kai france kai kai france isn't uh you know in all respect to kai kai france uh i feel like i fought some of the nicest people in division it's the only guy that i've ever fought that i'm like ah it's fucking douchebag but um but as far as kai kai france goes but as far kai kai kai france goes like him a lot it's like like, Kaikar Fransko is a good fighter backing up. He has two, maybe one or two good setups to get in, and it's like a cross hook,

a hook cross, jump in, it's leaping, and it's like... I think, like, God bless him because I think Erceg's, like, one of the more technical guys in the division, and he got clipped with it, but it's just like... If that fight played out ursic probably would have beat his ass you know so i think as far as a matchup goes is like car car france power last one round he i don't think he's ever hurt anybody after like

the second or third round um and it's like pantoja ain't going back up so it's like i think it's such a nightmare matchup i think pantoja beats him on the feet. I think if it goes to the ground, obviously there's a huge delay, and it's just like, I don't know. I feel like it's kind of a layup for Pantoja, in my opinion. All right, so let's talk about Manil Cop here for just a second. I mean, the fight is actually incredible, and we are pretty excited about it. Are you prepared for him to call you every slur known to man

oh that's what i was like talking to my friend before before during like my entire life you know you grow up you're just like people you don't like them you know so you're just talking the whole entire fight and it's like and you get to like you fight mma and then you're like i don't even know this guy i don't really have anything and so it's like there's a point like being something that you're not so it's like it's the first time i could just be like talking shit back and just like say something in someone's ear and just like i don't know i'm pretty excited for like a deal but i could just call someone a bitch and not any type of way about it you know i love that i love to hear that me too man i'm super excited um so when you get the call we didn't know if you could advance to the front of the line if you have to fight

moreno another time but you get the call from cop what was your thinking in that process you know angling business wise did it come with the guarantee that you beat him, you get the title shot? No. No, I don't know what the fuck goes on with me, bro. I want more money. If you guys are giving me a top shot, I want more money. If you guys keep me as the gatekeeper over here beating all your fucking top guys, everybody in the top five has to help me.

Pay me money. So that was my argument then. Whatever, dude, I'll fight Cap. I'll fight whoever this is. I've been preparing to fight Gabe since I got into the UFC. Or since I got into the UFC. That was a matchup that was bound to happen, you know? Pay me.

Pay me like what I deserve. And it's like, that was always my number one thing. It's just like, I want to get paid like I deserve to get paid and it's like i get it fly it's not that high i'm not the most uh you know i don't talk the most shit put some respect to my name i'm the one of the most exciting fighters in the fucking ufc and pay me like a number one contender i take a fraction of what any of these other fucking number one contenders in the ufc are so that's my issue with it as far as things go. I don't give a fuck. Give me who you're going to give me. I'll

fucking take anyone. I don't give a fuck. But pay me as such. Pay that 32-year-old man his money. We heard you in auto-tune there a little bit. We still have... Yeah, yeah. I felt like a good

phallus movie where I'm like, fuck you, pay me. You're building burnout, fuck you, pay me. I get paid for all that. You know what I'm saying? You guys got me still? Yeah, we got you, Roy Ball. We're holding this together. Obviously, Manel Cobb's coming

off a great win, though, against Bruno Silva where he looked like he was styling flowing he almost looked virtuoso like I mean I'm serious he looked like a motherfucker what do you think about this guy oh he's sick I think man I'll keep really good uh you know what I'm saying like I've always thought it was good I feel like he makes a lot of crucial stakes in fights, but, uh, so do I so it's like Whatever, you know, I just feel like it's gonna it's gonna lead but it's like also it's like i'm not bruno Silva, i'm not five foot two and a boxer like i'll fucking throw everything at him and i'm also fucking 6 11 and fucking jacks, you know, and i'm fine, but i'm i'm the tallest flyweight. I feel like uh speed wise I'm fucking a lot faster than all the rest of the guys he's ever fought

I feel like i'm top two or three in the flyweight division as far as speed goes I would say top two i would say it's me and him as far as speed goes so it's like he don't have like a crazy speed advantage over me like he does some of these guys as far as hands go and uh also, it's like i'm gonna fight him from a whole different distance than Bruno Silva than fucking any of the guys he's ever fought. So it's like I'm, really excited for this matchup. I actually really love preparing for this. Uh, it's only been a week, but, uh, like, you know,

I've already had my ideas on how I was going to fight him. And then I got like my fucking nerdy ass coach who is just detailing everything up. So it's been super cool. And it's cool to see like, uh, his approach on how we want to fight him compared to my approach and just kind of adding them together is going to be like, it's going to be such a fun fight.

And, uh, I feel like I have such good ideas to just kind of fucking beat the shit out of this guy who who watches tape you or your coach or both uh i mean both but i mean as far as like what i see compared to what he sees are as a rule the difference uh i have a coach named clay matza and uh pretty much drew my game plans up to me up for me for like the whole entire ufc career but um yeah yeah i i feel like he just does an amazing job and he's nerding out over this shit too so it's like i get like a clip sent to me every couple like a couple clips to me every day and he's like all right if he takes this we're gonna do this we're gonna do this we're gonna do this and then it was like it was cool too because like we've been training a lot with uh whitman and to see his take on it and he's like oh yeah yeah yeah

so like and to see his take on it and it was just cool to see all that you know and uh i don't know man i've been having a really fun camp uh and like this is just the beginning of it this is the first week of it so i have a real fun camp i'm gonna go out there and train with uh some of the guys from hammer so i get to go train with cory today and uh uh cory sandhagen and uh you know just other great guys from that gym and i'm just super excited for everything man so this guy who comes up with your game plans like how how did you start working with him how did you know that like oh he's good at this kind of thing Okay, this is a problem. arm so we had a whole time plan d for left arm and my side i think we lost roy ball there yeah look we got we got to see if we can get something better here why don't you pull them out the three box here just a second we got it we got to tighten this up because this is this is a little strange see if he can move a little bit further away or change

the signal a little bit because we still have more questions to ask, but it's a little bit hard to follow. I will say, Luke, to hear the enthusiasm, the confidence, and the whole celebration that this will be a fun conflict of striking styles at a high pace. This Royval cop fight has me rock solid trending Maymac, right? I mean, are we wrong here or am I just an emotionally passionate man? I mean, I definitely think the frozen steak is a little bit strong. Okay.

But I will say that I'm excited. Dude, I think he is – it's a tough matchup, obviously, because Cop's really, really skilled, but so is he. He's got a ton of experience now at this point against, like, really, really good guys. He's training with – like, dude, Colorado is like – it's always been a bit of experience now at this point against really, really good guys. He's training with... Dude, Colorado is like... It's always been a bit of a hotbed for MMA because it's

not true that it's brand new, but the fact that it endures in the way that it does is remarkable. You heard what he's saying. He's training with this guy, Corey Sanhagen and Trevor Whitman and blah, blah, blah. Dude, there's a lot going on down there, man. It's a fun class. His connection's a lot better now. I'm going to bring him back. All right, great. Let's try's try one more time i'll pick it up from here bc yep all right let's

see what we got here hey there we go a little bit better sorry about that no no that's my fault i drove off the block maybe there's better reception in this neighborhood oh it is better yes one thing that i will say about the cape fight too is just going back to that and not the training is, uh, I'm excited to operate at a faster pace than I've ever operated that and going against somewhere that works at a faster pace. And I think that you could see this fight. And like, uh, I was thinking like other flyweight fights that like go really fast. And like, as far as like hand speed goes, uh, how they move their feet and all that stuff. Um, and I was like,

I think this is going to be one of the faster flyweight fights as far as speed goes, uh, um, angles go and all that stuff um and i was like i think this is gonna be one of the faster flyweight fights as far as speed goes uh um angles go and all that other stuff um all the way up until like like dachshund and mighty mouse and stuff and it's like i'm so excited to operate on that frequency he takes a lot of cool angles too i'm a huge lomo fan and uh you know just stealing shit from like boxing and stuff so it's like uh like you know like seeing how Teofimo dealt with, like, a lot of angles against Lomo. It's just like the shoulder bump. So it's been cool, like, just checking people and just doing, like, weird shit, you know. And I don't know, man.

I've never been so excited for preparation because Mano Cape is just a great fighter. And he really is. He's just really, like, terrific. He does a lot of cool stuff. And it's like I love the idea of just a matchmaking of that. Well, one thing we talked to elite prize fighters, and they kind of tell us, everyone's got a slightly different perspective. And it also will depend on the length of camp

and where they are in their career. But from the Pantoja fight, I guess it was the loss of the last one. But then you had the Moreno fight, then the Tyra fight, and now this one. Have you been able to perceptively tell you have leveled up after each of these fights or camps? Like, can you really feel the difference fight over fight? Sometimes, man. I can feel it in the training gym more than anything.

It's just, like, I can feel, like, oh, okay, I'm operating here. My MAIQs rose dramatically since I've been in the UFC. I feel like I get no credit for this Moreno win. And it's like, I get it. I feel like Moreno looked like shit, but it's like, I get no credit on how I fought him. And I fought him from a distance that I've never, like nobody else I've ever fought Moreno.

When Moreno shines, he's fucking in the pocket. When you fight Pantoja, Pantoja is going to cover that distance for him. When you fight Figueiredo, Figueiredo covered that distance for him. And it's like, I made Moreno cover that distance. So he looks super sloppy trying to cover the void and come in, uh, come into me. So it's like, I feel like that's something that like we recognize. And that was like another thing that I'll give credit to my coach is just like, he's like, Moreno doesn't cover distance really well. So it's like, you pull them out. He's gonna, he's gonna throw some sloppy shit.

And then you're going to be able to pop them right afterwards. And it's like you pull him out he's gonna he's gonna throw some sloppy shit and then you're gonna be able to pop him right afterwards and it's like um you know i tore my mcl that that first round of that fight but it's like still like what we're able to kind of like make moreno look like i i feel like i don't get any credit on just because they're like moreno look like shit but it's like i also just fought him from two feet longer than anybody's ever fought moreno so it's like of course you don't look like shit he's a great boxer i'm not fighting him in boxing range i'm fighting kickboxing mma range you know and i'm fading him out from there so everything he's gonna do he's gonna have to cover two feet longer than he has to and then then he's gonna have to fight me from there you know so i i feel like that wasn't like the old me the old me would i would have just rushed in and did it you know and i still believe

i could beat anybody with that kind of style too but it's just like i feel like i've just leveled up in mma iq for sure look i'm allowed to have a phoner for this fight this is going to be a fast-paced thriller um brandon i don't know if you fully answered something i asked earlier because of our connection issues is this a guaranteed number one contender fight i mean if you go in there and stop cop's momentum and even if pantos's still the guy standing, are you going to get that third fight no matter what? And if not, we may have to create our own raw dog Antifa and cause some chaos down the streets protesting.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know, bro. And if I beat Cape and they don't give me it, then it's like, what do I do next? Because I fought pretty much one through seven, and it know, my only loss is to Pantoja. So then it's like, do I go up a weight class and just make things exciting for me there? And there's more money in that weight class. So it's like, uh, like what do I do in that case too?

So I'm, I'm pretty confused. I was definitely trying to like ruffle feathers at the 35 division and trying to get like Cejudo to down and you know uh trying to make matchups more interesting from there but it's like as far as like if i go and beat cape and they don't give me a title shot i don't know what i do next and i i really don't i don't like do i just move on with my life and just say fuck yeah i was a good number one contender you know uh i don't know bro i really don't know it's a weird situation but uh nobody guaranteed me that i get a title shot, but I guarantee if Cape goes out there and beats me, he gets a title shot. And I guarantee if Tyra went out there and beat me, he got a title shot.

And I know if Moreno went out there and beat me, he got a title shot. So it's just, I'm sitting in the position of just like not being as popular as some of these fighters. And, uh, they don't want to see me. They don't want to see me winning, bro want to see me winning bro no i'm just playing uh that's why i get like super cynical though it's like i've been super cynical because i'm like i just feel like you know like me and moreno were sitting in the same situation but if moreno would have beat me in mexico city he would have got the title shot and it's like that

was guaranteed there's a reason pantoja got flown there sat in front row all that stuff and it's like they would have pulled him into the cage if moreno won but that just wasn't the case so it's like I feel like my job is to fuck up the flyweight division make everybody's life hard around me and I've been doing a great job at that so it's like what's one more person and it's like man I'll cape I think's great but it's like his best win isn't even compared to anybody that I fought in my any of my wins so it's like you look good against bruno what his name uh uh whatever yeah but it's like he almost got knocked out by cody durden like i'm not impressed by that shit like cody durden's like uh you know uh you know respect

to him but it's like that guy's not a striker you know what i'm saying like so it's like we can do whatever but it's like i'm also not five foot four and over here getting fucking losing striking matches against cody durden like well because of your height and i don't want this to happen but if you had to would you make a run at 35 yeah yeah i know i can compete with the top top 15 top 10 you know i don't know if i'll ever be a champion at 35 but i'll definitely go over there and get paid get paid more money and drop down to 25 all right uh let me ask you at 32 being that you've fought for the title before that you're one of the most you know toughest outs in this division is the competitor in you starting to see the the end down the road and say i gotta get this belt before then i gotta you know prove something to yourself to know that you were

of this ilk yeah yeah for sure uh for sure and And like, all of that stuff. It's like, I still think I could, you know, I've lost to Pantoja, but I know I could beat Pantoja. I know I could win that fight. I know me and him are a shootout. And I think in a game of Russian roulette, I'm about due for a shot to Pantoja's head, you know? And I think I could be anybody in the flyweight division um but yeah yeah I feel it bro I feel the pressure but I also just feel the little bit of the like things are different now it's it's so much more exciting to like train for fights it's so much like uh the guys I'm going against are so much better so it's like it's a different piece of the puzzle that I can add to the game it's's like I hired a dope wrestling coach Yeah, I have Joe Warren as my main wrestling coach and

Yeah, yeah, so I helped Joe Warren went about when I was younger I was like like doodle I was like all those guys are Dante's and I was like all those guys for Joe Warren I was kicks out like a nerdy jujitsu kid that was lengthy in Southpaw and like, you know I was just like a striker, you know You need to unleash the the what was he the world's most dangerous man the most baddest man on the planet you need to unleash him on your opponents you know sometimes these boxers have their dads that are chirping you know angel in the corner joe warren could talk up a fight man that guy can get people in the building

but for sure that's a little bit why i wouldn't have him in my corner sometimes when i was young because i'm like bro like I'm already up here. I need someone to level me down, you know? Like, I'm all the way up here. Like, calm me the fuck down. Joe Orton will be right up, right here with me, amping me up. And it's like, sometimes, like, I need to be more calmed down than amped up at all. Like, I've never been one of those fighters that they're like, you need a slap.

Like, if anything, you're like, bro, calm the fuck down, because you're about to do too much. So that's like where me and him match levels and stuff but uh yeah uh it's been really cool working with him it was cool working with leaster bowling and i feel like it sucks because like i'm not gonna be able to use them as much as camp because i'm not planning on shooting and i'm sure man lk being planning on shooting so it's like uh you know and if i am it's just a little bit of like, all right, I'm aware. I'm aware on this guy, you know, but it's not anything serious. Like, I'm not looking to go fight on the ground.

I'm looking to go fight the way I've always fought. And just, you know, maybe I'll do some like, all right, let's go slow him down, take downs. But like, other than that, it's like, I don't really care to be a test man on the ground game. I want to fucking strike with him. I want to test him where he's the best at. I want to see what he's good at. And it's like i i want him you know i want i want him where he's best at you know well i think you should feel your anger anakin because this you know they're trying to hold down the man from getting that belt so uh you know keep that that chip on your

shoulder and if you haven't thought about a walkout song yet for manel cop how about you know body count and ice t's classic uh cop killer would be you know fantastic bro you know what's crazy is like this is how much i thought about the man lk fight is not only have i have a whole different set of like what i'm going to walk out to but like i had not only to have a game plan but i already knew like what i wanted to walk out to if i'm fighting man, I'll cave. And it's like, I don't know if I'm going to do it. Cause I shimmy, shimmy all like,

you know, I might mix it up. My mind is mine is a walk them down by NLE, a chopper. And it's like, I love the idea of just walking somebody down, you know? And I feel like a guy like man,

I'll cave is like walking him down. We fucking, I want to fight somebody. Let me ask you this i realize the name is raw dog but how do you not have a condom sponsorship and what i mean by that is bro i've been saying the same shit i i direct message trojan i'm like bro we we should be working on some shit it's like dude it's like raw dog approved condoms who would want anything more fucking awesome than that that's like that's the that's the holy grail of condom use that's

what i've been literally been saying this shit for you bro plan b bro i've been trying to hit up plan b i'm like bro plan b that's my plan a when you're raw dog you know what i'm saying bro i have all the commercials ready like wow this is great bro i can't believe i don't got nothing no contraceptive like even hit me with a Bluetooth sponsor or something. What the fuck? We could be making magic happen. Instead, I'm over here dropping bars on Morning Combat Show instead of fucking on a commercial. We can't get you paid, but we appreciate the bars.

I can tell you that. We can't get you laid either, just in case you're wondering. Saturday, March 1st, it goes down. Hopefully, we'll find out who is going to be contending next for that 1-2-5 title when this man, Brandon Royval, takes on Manel Cobb. Until then, Raw Dog, thanks for joining us. Happy holidays, bro.

Stay healthy. Stay mad. Hey, Raw Dog. Hey, Raw Dog. You know what, bro, dog. Stay raw, dog. You know what, bro? Thank you for being MK Solid. Yeah, for sure. It was dope because as soon as I seen you guys post that last show, I was like, I'm

going to DM him right now. Thank you guys for having me. Well, you have a seat here whenever you want it. Whenever you want it. I appreciate y'all. I appreciate y'all. Have a good day. Thank you. Thank you y'all. I appreciate y'all. Have a good day. Thank you.

Fucking awesome. He's great, dude. Love that guy. I don't know what kind of position he's going to be in because even beating Kopp, because he's had the title shots and everything, it is hard to say. But it would be cool if he went in there, gave him the business, and left the UFC with no other choice. I mean, sometimes we say, like say when a guy's in his spot,

should they be a little more reckless and go for the finish more to get over the top? Can he weaponize his cardio even more? It seems to be he's looking to do the latter and just set an insane pace and try to use the game plan to outstrike Cobb. I think you heard him talking about with Joe Warren, and I think he's got the right idea I mean these athletes know themselves less is probably going to be more for him

because he's already at 11, dialing it back to like a 9, it's still going to be potent and now he can think and do things in a more structured way he's going to get a lot breaking news, Michael Benson just tweeted that Tyson Fury announced he will switch to ufc and will not box in the near future as he wants to rematch francis ngannou in the cage and also

wants to fight john jones as well i thought michael benson sold his account to ring the ring are you did you get how did you get did you stop the show for fake news maniche just sent it to me is this benson's new account put it in the chat put it in the chat all right i got you let's see let me take myself because i might tell maniche maniche that's fake yeah i highly i highly doubt that okay because you know the anthony joshua now what i will say is fury does say things you know what i mean like he does say things all right let's see here i think he's been had worse than me on joe rogan versus uh versus stephen a smith look i believe this is fake i'm not sure i don't think benson resurfaced since selling that account, right? It's got two N's on the Benson.

Yeah, it's a parody account. It's a long... Well long Island. Thank Vinicius for that one. I just saw it. I was like, oh shit, Benson tweeted it. It's legit. Here's some other ones from that same account.

Ariel Helwani and Dana White ran into each other at a restaurant in New York City last week. It's totally legit. The two exchanged in a shouting match and both left the venue at Mike Coppinger. Yeah. Guys, we have a fake news problem on this show. We got had the two of you need a little bit more of a fake news filter in

your lives. Yeah, we need more filters for sure. But thank you for Roy ball for joining Luke. That's going to be a fun fight. I like when guys are in this, like I've been to the top before people don't really want me back, but I,

you know, you can tell he's got some fire behind him and is trying to, you know, refine his game and get the very best version out of him. Will it be enough? Luke he's got, you know, you got to get through cop to find out,

but if they, if he gets through cop and then doesn't get the next shot, that's rough. That is rough. It is going to be rough. I'm not sure what he's supposed to do at that point. You know? Yeah. that's rough. That is rough. That is going to be rough. I'm not sure what he's supposed to do at that point. Yeah. I guess fight Cejudo or something.

I don't know. Fight somebody. Fight Figueredo at 135. What do you think about that, Luke? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

For the BMF title. For the biggest bitch title. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Luke, are you all right?

Are you still with us? I'm with you. All right. I'm just not laughing at your terrible jokes. Thank you for that. I can throw to a couple more of these mailbaggers, or are we hitting the live chat Q&A? Where are we now?

Are we doing live chat today? I believe that was offered to the people to close the show. Okay, so this could be. Let's do like one or two. Yeah, more mailbag ones. All right, let me hit this this bag um this one is from ben what is your biggest professional wish for 2025 happy holidays to you and your families luke we already hit mk do you have any singular professional wish i do but

i'm not ready to announce anything um okay i'll say i'll say be on the lookout we wish you well and now in those in future endeavors hashtag only pipes that's what we're gonna do yes i i want to be calling fights let's let's see where it goes luke let's see if i end up in for sure find out uh of course thank you let's go to alan he says guys can each of you make a list of your five best slash favorite mma journalists or members of the MMA media? If there is no more journalism in MMA, not including the two of you, of course, we don't already know that you're the best. Luke, do you think they want us to say who we think are the best at their craft or who are like, those are our guys. We love those guys.

We respect the ones that are like, those are like the guys that we talk to. You know what I mean? Like on a regular basis. Chuck Mendenhall obviously on that list, right? I mean, Chuck Mendenhall would be on both lists to be fair, right? Yeah, that's fine. Get our commercial respect and our critical love. I mean, we...

I got love for Oscar Willis. Again, you know, he runs the map. Yeah, I do too. He's a hilarious dude. I got love for the, you know, Canada's finest father uh aaron bronstetter okay you can't take that away from me luke all right you cannot you cannot uh you also like the warlock though so you're i like the warlock a lot i mean i've had some wild times with the warlock where you're like what creature is this man but uh what do you think luke about

he's canadian he's the prince of persia do you have love for shaquille majori or sorry when he's Canadian he's the prince of Persia do you have love for Shaquille Majorey or sorry when he's not texting me only when I don't hear from him says Luke Thomas yes yeah only when I don't have to hear him at all no I'm kidding I actually like him a lot he's a hard working dude and he does good stuff um whose first team all Luke here uh Mike Bone Mike Bone uh Mike Bon I like Mike Bon um i used to recently engaged by the way recently i know i wish them congratulations how about dennis from submission radio love dennis from submission radio oh yeah okay dennis from submission radio is the soul of the earth love that guy but dude how could you forget liverpool's own mike owens media i mean

that guy's media is great that kid's fantastic fantastic. Mike Peck and Jed Mishu. Those are like brothers to me, those guys. And one of them's weirder than the other, to be fair. Yeah, I mean, Jed is, you know, he's one of my favorites. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind. You know who I like a lot, Luke? And him and his wife are obviously

legends of this game for their work, but as people, too. E. Casey Lydon? Yeah, of course. Oh, yeah, yeah, him and Esther Lin, yeah, of course. They're great. Anyone on the boxing side? I like Dan Canobio a lot. I'm a big Dan Canobio fan, of course.

Chris Algieri as well. Yep. Sean Porter, you already know. You already know I love that man who's more media these days, obviously, than X-Fighter. You like Mike Coppinger. You know, Coppinger, oneer. You like Mike Coppinger. You know, one-on-one, Cop's hilarious.

It's in large groups that Cop becomes Cop. Shut the fuck up, you little brat. Shut the fuck up. I love my guy Evan Korn at TopRank, the PR guy, great guy in this industry. You know what? Boxing PR people, I have found, are largely

pretty helpful. Oh, Bernie Barmazelel pr maven of the stars i love that man all right he's super helpful um look at us just loving we're just loving people yeah i mean i'm leaving a bunch of people on the cutting room floor that are actually also really oh alan dawson i love that guy too alan dawson's great i just uh who else i'm trying to think of alan dawson's great. Who else am I trying to think of? Alan Dawson's pretty great. I like Ben Fulks. Yeah. Yeah, there's a bunch. And Sean El Shadi.

There's a bunch of these people. You could have gone as far as saying you like Big Butts, and you can't lie also. That's absolutely a true statement. I like them hogs. You other brothers can't deny, indeed. Let's also hear from Andre, who says, BC, if you could wrap up anything for Luke, what would it be?

And Luke, the same question, other than my skits and bits, what would you wrap? I mean, what are they asking a gift or is this some weird condom reference? Luke, what do you, I don't know if it's a condom reference. I'm not giving you any, uh, Luke, I would, I would buy for you a, um, I i mean a lot of delta a's like a real like a whole like a whole closet full of them where you just open up and they spill out on top of you you know what i mean that would that would be nice actually one of those blowtorch gimmicks that we see i could see you for like if you have a weekend coming up where you have nothing going on, you just turn the weed blowtorch on yourself and like put your face in the flames and just turn off for 30,

you know, 48 hours. I saw this thing on social media. I forget where it was Twitter or IG. I don't remember, but it was two people getting into like this. So they were in a pool and then they were in this pod in the pool and then they put a lid on it and then just smoked him into,

into the pod. And the caption was, would you try this? And I'm like, would I try this? I am specifically requesting when it's time to be euthanized this way would i try it i take me to valhalla on the wings of this chariot please i mean are we gonna get to the point soon where it's colonoscopy time and we don't have to inhale the gas we can just get a different form of the gas luke

what the fuck does that even mean i'm talking about the full face mask the full vacuum you know that's the gas i want okay i will say though that that sleep i have in the colonoscopy was it's the best 30 minutes of your life and the thing is you know that's an invasive surgery or you know procedure yeah you don't feel a thing but man are you out there listening if they go the other way luke the old-fashioned way you feel it for like three days for the prostate no the colonoscopy under the under that the anesthesia they give you whatever it is fucking was incredible and you lose your dignity during the prostate check and it hurts really bad

and you feel it for a couple days it's not it's just we got to change the way we're living imagine going to med school and being like you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna look at people's buttholes i'm gonna just shove things in their buttholes all day long that's what i'm gonna do like it's like i think i'm gonna go to school for radiology i think that's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna look at people's x-rays instead yeah well i didn't know if you were setting up a long uh diddy joke there but it would have hit just the same look okay it really would have all right you want to do some live chatting oh well i got one more here from sean and you know sean comes to us by the way from donagill ireland and he says love the show my question is just me or why Herb Dean constantly voted best ref in MMA?

He makes so many errors constantly for me. Jason Herzog, clearly the best in the game at the minute. Those editorial comments were from Sean. Do you agree with them, Luke? I do like Jason Herzog a lot. I think he's a good referee. I mean, a lot of those awards, I think he's talking about the MMA awards. It's just fan voting.

It's not necessarily some kind of panel that's weighing all the evidence and trying to come to some sort of considered decision. It's who can mash the button enough times. And sometimes rightful people are going to win. Sometimes rightful people are going to lose. It's just kind of what happens. It's just going to be a function of popularity in a lot of cases. So, I mean,

they voted a biz ping best analyst of the year. All right. It's time for the live Q and a here. So if you can swim through the misogyny and other bad things going on in the live chat on YouTube right now at Morning Combat, hit us up. Long Island Luke, let's hear from the actual live people right now. This is Lazy Bed who says, Luke in BC, what do you miss most about the days? Oh, where do I start?

Is there a perk, Luke, that you're like, damn, that was we we need that you know it was a special flying first class which wasn't every time but it was a lot of the time yeah it wasn't every time but like when they when they when they flew us to vegas which is for us like a five-hour flight and you fly that first class it changes everything i mean i you know i've only flown economy almost all of my life except for like the few uh years where showtime paid for otherwise and again if you're flying from dc to new york it doesn't make any fucking difference at all i really do mean that you get to board a little earlier whatever it's an hour-long flight who cares but when it's five hours or something like that and you get to board early and you have all the changer,

it's gets a fucking game changer. Yes. Yes, indeed. I miss those days. I miss that. There's always, there's always a car waiting for you.

Even when it would be like, I'd be like, well, my hotel is like six miles from the airport. I could take it Uber. They're like, no, no,

no, no. You, the car with your name will be waiting for you. Those kinds of perks, Luke, the, those were nice. Oh, they want us in the studio tomorrow.

There's a car with tinted windows waiting outside my house randomly to bring me there. You know, that kind of stuff was, uh, was, was nice, but I would say what I missed most outside of the people who, the way they treated you was, uh, just that, that ability to be tied into the fight game through Showtime Sports, through what they were doing with Bellator Boxing, where we got a front row seat slash sometimes we're open in the broadcast, Luke. I mean, we were on the paper. We had a nice halftime gig that time on the Charlo pay-per-view, but I mean, hosting the weigh-ins and the press conferences

for those big pay-per-view fight weeks, having that access to be able to earn those jobs was something i never took for granted and you can feel it now you know what i mean just that feeling of being part of it right laying down part of the soundtrack for that week yeah i mean listen flying first class is nice but if they took it away you would still do the job in an instant right because it's the job that was the the linchpin of everything it was just nice when you're six foot four and you're pretty tall too bc and you know you're you just don't fit into some of these things that you just

like the cut i said it before between the car picking you up and if you fly for like to vegas first class all that stuff it was frictionless travel it just was smooth from beginning to end you know i love smooth uh let's hear another one long island luke from the people this one's from funny um hey bc and luke i've got a question which current fighter do you most believe will hold ufc gold next year so luke which fighter who is not currently champion is most likely to become champion in 25 sh Shavkat Rachmaninoff. That is a strong answer. Umar Nurmagomedov is also in this discussion. Oh, that's a very good one, yeah.

Kayla Harrison also in this discussion. Kayla Harrison, I think, is a borderline lock, but yes. Yeah, if she makes the weight and there's no issues, yes. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, would you, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah those are the locks luca there's a everyone else it's i don't know i don't maybe not locks but yeah maybe locks i feel i don't think i don't think on khali of his luck but i think his chances are better than poet on fans might be ready to admit i still think potent should win that one but that's you know yeah all right let's

hit up another person here let's get it this one is duran duran 509 back when aol owned mma fighting did luke ever use the message boards so i didn't work with them when aol owned mma fighting i didn't work with mma fighting in fact until aol sold it to vox media and then they brought over the message boards for a time but they quickly dissolved them i don't know if this is how they view it now but at the time the way they structured their comment section with the way for everyone could reply to everyone and it would turn green with enough likes and stuff like that or rex is what they called it this is more commonplace architecture on the internet now but

to their credit at the time vox media was one of the early adopters to have that and the whole premise because i know i talked to the developers who did it, the whole premise was to basically make the comment section look and feel like a message board. Why would you have a separate message board? And it was only the places that did it was because their comment section couldn't really

foster that kind of conversation. And once they had the technology to do it, they let go of the message boards. I never had any relationship to it whatsoever. Dude, message boards played such a key role in both boxing and MMA and fueling the hardwars at key parts of the early internet experience. No doubt about it. I mean, the underground is one of the central parts of developing MMA fandom for that era of fans, you know, pre and post tough.

Luke, have you ever entered the dark web? I don't even know how to enter the dark web much less have i entered it you'll know it when you see it luke okay what what what does that mean so i hear i don't know i don't know hey what other questions do you have here this one's from intangible 79 uh luke what is your edible dosage? That's a good question. Now, let me ask what that means when you say edible dosage, BC. How functional do we have to be? Yeah, it might depend on the activity. It would probably be a better question for this exercise.

If I have to be functional, which is like I got to go get groceries, I don't typically mix the two, but I'm just saying let's say that I did. Or you got to go to the youth soccer game you know and it's like well my kid doesn't know it's not quite just yet um but you know i don't know i have to kind of be you know i don't have to drive or anything but i've got to be present 30 milligrams wow well you are a large man i mean body for days many days on that week you know yeah if if it's i don't care and i can just like watch a movie i'm gonna hit 50 wow all right luke all right that's uh um not not not on that level but uh you know i think probably closer to 20. i know uh i know what what allows what what you know yeah i'm very

i'm very uh down to the science on that so whatever long out you just let it rip and whatever happens yeah i mean the most i ever did at once was a hundred but i fell asleep shortly after so yeah i was gonna say it was probably the best out of your life you just didn't remember it yeah exactly yeah yeah all right there you go uh what else you got here from the people this is dave sandeen a regular of these parts he says worst movie you saw in 24 and what movie are you most looking forward to in the new year oh i saw that trolls movie and it was what it felt like to be waterboarded by colors and sounds i I don't know which one it was. It was fucking horrendous. It was so bad.

I watched a lot of Hallmark Christmas movies this holiday season. I did my duty. I saw a bunch of bad kids movies this year. The Garfield movie? Terrible. I'll say this, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's true. Dude, moana 2

suck really yeah moana 1 is so good it's such a great movie moana 2 just felt completely flat to me i really didn't like it at all did you see the happy gilmore trailer for part two that's coming out about it i've not seen it yet i got really excited because they brought back basically everyone who's alive to to reap they shoot it in time for bob barker to play a role i do not know that i did not see him in it but uh it's it looks like it's going to be right up our alley luke you know which is perfectly cheesy like exactly what we're looking for give me that comfort food sequel all right yeah in terms of like 2025 i'm trying to think someone asked me this the other day i was looking at something i don't remember exactly what choices there were there was nothing that like it was a huge thing that i wanted to see yeah um yeah i don't know i mean there there is talk of a third dune movie that's 2026 is it not i think so i think it's

more pushed that one i want to see very much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Keep going on that. Please. I only think though that they could probably get through, get one more movie out because I heard from web screen that the quality of the Dune books goes down a hill. You know what I'm saying? After like the first three, I didn't know that. And then when the guy died, his son took over and kept the franchise

going, but not at the same level. I hear things. I don't know if this is true, Luke. I don't really read. So, you know, that's part right that's that's a challenge for you yeah yeah definitely a couple more here long island luke as we are trying to please the people here gray matter 88 bc how many entries did you put in on behalf of luke okay all right all right all right all right yeah drive fast next one next one way uh no skits skits well that's a little much Dave Sandeen says very important question for BC did you grow up watching Bozo the

Clown and play your own grand prize game with buckets no I did not watch Bozo I know who Bozo the Clown is I did not watch did you Luke someone asked me this yesterday and I don't think i did oh there are you look at that puss yeah reginald's here he's he had a great great christmas okay it was

he's he's very a very happy man right now what did he get for christmas fucking sandbox he got close contact on the couch at all times just slept on top of somebody at all times i mean that that's all he wants in this world luke is an intimacy you know how come the other cats don't ever visit you they're not at i mean they do zoe and emma but it's it's a little more rare because the the sun comes in more upstairs my wife's there that you know that he just he chose me you have to understand this luke we are we're life partners he didn't choose you you're his bitch it you know i'm reggie jackson's bitch yes yes that should be a t-shirt in fact i hope

average joe is already i'm reggie jackson's bitch yes definitely i mean you know you know what movie i re-watched the other day it's from like 2018 i think 2017 maybe um it's on netflix it's insanely bloody uh the night comes for us no have you seen this movie no i've heard of it yeah oh my god this movie is absolutely fucking bonkers um it's so goddamn good if you like the raid uh or you like indonesian or martial arts that's the fucking that's the joint right there boy all right look will you ever visit that area of southeast asia i'd love to it's not on the itinerary but i would certainly love to yeah i could see you in like vietnam or something taking in the beauty i would love to just win the lottery and leave life and never be seen from again yeah i mean can we ever see you in myanmar

or bangladesh myanmar i don't I don't know if I could travel there appropriately. Bangladesh, not high on the interest list. All right. You got any other brain teasers here, Long Island? Oh, Alan W. Luke, shout out to Alan W., right? The mysterious man of Western? Alan W. is the man.

He says, have you considered having new special segments for the show? We sure have. Yes. That's another thing we're working on for 2025. Yeah, that was supposed to happen this year, but this year became more about keeping the power on, and luckily the power stayed on.

People are always like, it wasn't one thing. It was a lot of things that almost happened that didn't, and that's okay. It's cool. One day we'll be able to tell the entire part of the story as we experienced it it but it was a challenging fucking year uh to put it mildly you know but hey the lights kept on reggie's still eating he's happy you know what i'm saying we got we got the second show up which was bigger than i

think folks realized that was actually quite big and for our pockets too you know it's not bad yeah not a bad life we got here wow reggie really that's aggressive okay i'll read this one in the late 90s early 2000s that chick-fil-a worked at i vividly remember a rude employee making my mom cry at the drive-thru on a scale of one to a hundred how likely was it to be luke a zero i never worked that's funny though i never worked but i didn't work at the big chicken bc i worked at the the I don't know if it's still there. I mean, it probably is. I'm sure. I worked at the Chick-fil-A near... Not in the Kennesaw... Was it the Kennesaw Mall?

What the fuck was the name of it? There was a Chick-fil-A near the Kennesaw Mall. It was near a media play, which I'm sure doesn't exist anymore either. But I never worked the drive-thru window. I worked either the register or I worked when I first started making the actual sandwiches. All right.

All right. 915 AM says, how many subs before we get a BC poop story? I have a really good poop story, by the way. It's a killer. It is. But I really don't want to tell that publicly. You know, it is. Yeah.

Dude, you got to let it all go. Maybe 250,000 subs. All right. All right. Can we get there? you know it's uh yeah uh dude you gotta you gotta let it all go maybe 250 000 subs all right all right can we get there can we get to 200 i mean what's holding us back luke we need to scale up the content that's the issue we need to scale up the content all right what else you got here long island from joshua macklin what country do you think will be next to have their first i'm gonna guess ufc champion that's a good one uh france because maybe fiora wins that's a good point it could have been doesn't count because it's only interim we're talking like full like undisputed title. Kazakhstan with Rachmaninoff.

Kazakhstan would be a big one. Great call. Yep. Great call. Yep. That's all I got. That's it. That's all I got.

I'm not sure who else would even be eligible to have that conversation around. I mean, is there anyone from, you know, Sao Tome and Principe or Timor-Leste or, you know, Vanuatu? Prince of pay or Timor Leste or, you know, Vanuatu. These are real countries. Luke. I don't think that they have any strong representatives contending for titles.

Look at that cat boy. He's great. He's, I mean, he's one of the better thing that's ever happened to me. Luke, I'm going to show up and just euthanize them right in front of you. It's just so aggressive and not necessary.

Look at the look he's given you. He doesn't like that kind of talk. All right. you get him when or where where uh there was a a uh shelter like someone's house that took in animals in shelton connecticut and we uh rescued him there he was around dogs aggressive dogs as a kitten so he's used to chaos luke you know he brings the chaos in our house he just brings it but you know he's got a he's got to turn off and he comes to me for that you know it's time to turn off and rest and you know think other diabolical plans for the future and you know i've become you know i'm a falconer luke this is my you know this is my wild animal you know i just try to keep him happy.

You're his eunuch. Yes, yes, yes. Or maybe he's mine, Luke, and I just don't know it. You're the one who had the three needles to the bag. You're the eunuch, motherfucker. There might be nothing pathetic than a middle-aged man's relationship with his cat,

but I think it's beautiful, Luke. A eunuch would say that. Yeah, yeah. We've got to do a couple more of these. Lazy Ben, who is the frontrunner? Oh, great question. Let's talk about the 2024 Donk of the Year race, something we have never even thought about.

What was that? Well, can you bring that back up? What was the second sentence? And when are we getting a second moderator for mk chat when long island luke is busy on mondays we have a lot of things we have to fix uh luke we haven't talked about it so to recap in 2023 was average joe donk of the year 2022 it was a shared crown between david appleton and jay paquette of mount unike nova scotia fame 2021 Damian the Donk, who I'm told by another Donk, is alive and well. And I couldn't get an answer on incarceration, Luke, but, you know, we all have our assumptions.

And then don't forget about, what, Web Scream before that? 2020, our first Donk of the year. If you notice, inevitably, we lose these people along the way a lot of times. Luke, who came to battle this year? I mean, it's been a big Allen W year, to be fair, right? of the year if you notice inevitably we lose these people along the way a lot of times luke who who came to battle this year i mean it's been a big alan w year to be fair right it has alan w has been good i i'm almost tempted to say that the real donk of the year are all the donks who stuck with us through a rebound year or a survival year really is probably a better way to put that. This will be

a rebound year, this upcoming one. Almost like a collective spirit award to all the folks who have remained part of the nucleus of the fan base. Yeah, and who have supported our other vehicles, whether it's YouTube channels or the broadcasting work we do. It's a community

that's stuck together. And hey, how about Long Island Luke getting added to this community, Luke? Now, he may have dropped the ball big time on that fake news earlier, but... Yeah, that was a big... That was a big... Breaking news. Michael Benson just tweeted it now.

I want to nominate Lazy Bed for Donk of the Year, the man who asked the question. He made that AI rap song with MK and stuff. That was pretty good. That's true. he contributed a lot yeah definitely like a first team all mk of the of the hardcores of the hardcores luke and i love those people you know they like will they steal our organ it's possible but if we needed ten thousand dollars and no you know questions answered they might come through for us like

you need to bury a body, call Dave Sandeen. That's what my word would be. Yeah, that's probably true. I would probably agree with that. Yeah. Thank you, Don. Let's do one more good one. Okay, from my dad.

Favorite job you had as a teenager? Because I had more than just Chick-fil-A. Mine was definitely the movie theater. Happy New Year, y'all. What do you think, BC? I was the janitor at Stop and Shop in my college years because I commuted and had a really lonely college existence, but it was a great job. I had my own cage in the back, but that was the only spot where the cameras didn't pick up. I would collect all the expired food that they

would throw away that I still deemed edible. And then all the magazines and books that they had to throw away where they ripped the cover off. So I just stockpiled a reading collection and spent a lot of time back there. A lot, to be fair. And as the janitor, even though, yes, I had to clean up unspeakable things. Like just unspeakable things. The payoff of being able to wander and talk to chicks that were working and stuff. You know, Luke, it was it was the best job I ever had at that time.

Chick-fil-A was a good one. They actually treated me well. They paid pretty well. I didn't mind it at all. I did a bunch of odd jobs in the neighborhood when I was 16. i mowed a bunch of lawns in the summers you know um even though i was partly of that time i was living with my dad but there were still stretches where i was able to be home for like six weeks eight weeks at a time and i was these single moms pay you in sex mrs robinson style no i always had to deal with the dads who

were too lazy to mow so So that was kind of the thing. So it was both of those were pretty, for what it was, they were pretty rewarding, I suppose. The Chick-fil-A one was interesting because you get to see a window into how the business was run. Did you consider seeking out military wives? So in Valdosta, Georgia, there was, I think there even still is a military installation there but

no that was never uh i wasn't i wasn't quite i would just want to be like will you pay me 20 bucks to mow this and i'm not saying it out of like a benevolent thing of you know this poor lady who husband is abroad like mow her lawn for free i'm saying you could develop a relationship there that could be a you know i just i just wanted some money that's all i wanted okay all right that's all you're gonna get okay that's the end of it wow why we just always have to end the show so awkwardly every time you know how do i how do i take back the last two hours luke you know maybe the last five six years right hey but we're in it we're still here that's it that's all i got for you uh long island lu Luke, what are we doing on Monday? We're doing

2025 predictions, correct? Yeah, or the awards. I can't remember which one we're doing which, but one is the award show, the other one's predictions. Okay, so we'll figure that out. So stay tuned for Monday live at 11 a.m. We'll be from home. We will not be in studio. When do we have to go back to the studio, BC?

The week after? There's a Jan 6 welcoming back for us. Okay, we have to go back to the studio? BC the week after there's a Jan six welcoming back for us. Okay. We have to figure this out because inauguration day is a Monday and I have a feeling it's going to be very difficult for me to make it to and from the train station.

So I might have to do this overnight at Newark. You'll never see me alive again. Yeah, no, no. you'll never see me alive again you'll never see me alive you'll get absolutely shanked in the fucking escalator that's gonna happen

right in the a-hole Luke alright let's call it a day hey follow and subscribe all the socials including all the YouTube channels the Brian Campbell experience mine as well just normal Luke Thomaske thomas uh and we'll be back monday thanks to everyone who sent in a question thanks to everyone who watched today uh brian any final thoughts before we close the show uh you know happy holidays merry christmas happy new year thank you to all you

great donks i hope you had a great time and are having a great time. If you're away from school or work, uh, savor the flavor of these times. The best of times are right now. They really are. All right. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

BC. What's the, what novel was at the beginning of, Oh, I think that was about us losing the showtime budget. It became the worst of times, but, uh,

it was, I like some Charles Dickens bullshit. Yeah. Very good. sometimes but uh was that like some charles dickens bullshit yeah very good i did read half of a tale of two cities and then took the test without reading the second half you can predict my d grade freshman year you know i didn't finish macbeth and then use the cliff notes to finish macbeth but i still did well in that class so i could see you doing well in all classes at that time as a mathlete and debate team captain. I could have done better.

I was a little lazy. But you got into a great school. Do you have any regrets? I should have developed better studying habits. I could have done a lot better than I did. Okay. I think your decision not to get on the train in the Marines was a potential turning point in your life and you chose I didn't end up in prison

yeah very good you chose the road less traveled than that poor woman Luke you know what I mean yeah alright okay we're done alright for Brian Campbell Long Island Luke and everyone here on the staff I'm LT that's BC this has been MK till next time

may all of your gains be loyal you