MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Bueno Silva subs Holm | Rest of UFC Vegas 77 | Tom Aspinall | Frank Martin | Ep 465

Episode Date: July 17, 2023

On episode 465 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian react to the weekend of fights. The boys start by breaking down UFC Vegas 77. Did Bueno Silva legitimately impress you? Does this finally mean the end o...f Holly Holm main events? What do the boys think of Jack Della Maddalena's win? The guys also break down Frank Martin's win over Artem Harutyanyan. Was the Armenian more skilled than we gave him credit or did Martin look off? The guys close out the show with Dm's from Donks and HYSTS. (9:30) - Bueno Silva vs. Holm (34:00) - Jack Della Maddalena (47:30) - Rest of UFC Vegas 77 (55:50) - Tom Aspinall (64:40) - Frank Martin (81:00) - Dm's from Donks (96:30) - HYSTS Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 That's the spirit we bring to this show I'm Luke Thomas I'm Brian Campbell This is Morning Combat Hey, it's a Monday You ain't got no job, you ain't got anything to do Except watch this show, or listen to it maybe, I don't know But here we are, ready to get things going for you you ain't got anything to do except watch this show or listen to it maybe i don't know but here
Starting point is 00:00:45 we are ready to get things going for you it's morning combat on this 17th of july 2023 my name is luke thomas i am merely one half of your hosting duo i joined you from the capital of estados venidos we're here in washington dc joined by a man who was i would say mostly radio silent since friday it's brian campbell what's up brian campbell um yeah yeah i've i've you know what i had luke the best weekend ever because i don't know if you check the weather but it's raining like uh feral cats and dogs in new england over the weekend luke so i had a everybody stay home nobody shower nobody do anything weekend you know what i mean luke that's how i get down yeah no i didn't do that uh my wife is out of town on work assignment and so i've got the kid uh but abuela is with me
Starting point is 00:01:32 so yesterday we went to the dr seuss experience in tyson's corner in fairfax county and my daughter had the time of her life at the time of her life she really did what percentage of the time of her life, she really... What percentage of the time you speak tabuela is it en espanol? Probably 50-50. Okay. Something like that. Yeah, yeah. Tukey is at a stage where she is now resisting Spanish, which is annoying for my wife. Let me assure you.
Starting point is 00:01:59 She doesn't love that at all. I will say, BC, at the mall, not once but twice got spotted by some dogs. Oh, yeah. Okay. Young males. Is Tukes getting to the level where she understands what that means, Luke, when all of these ravenous single males seek you out in person? No.
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Starting point is 00:07:47 yeah all right let's get this process started if we can topic number one let's get right into it of course your main event for the ufc over the weekend holly holm fought myra bueno silva but not for very long because she got what i used to call power guillotine. They now call ninja choked in the second round. Not a whole lot of difficulty, frankly, for Bueno Silva, BC. So my question to you would be, okay, should her next fight be for the title no matter who it is against? Well, you got to ask yourself this. You know, we were arguing we don't have a roadmap to where the 135 and 145 divisions are going. We thought Holly Holm would have appeared in a vacant title bout. we don't have a roadmap to where the 135 and 145 divisions are going.
Starting point is 00:08:28 We thought Holly Holm would have appeared in a vacant title bout. But given the opportunity that Buena Silva had, I didn't have on my bingo card second round wipeout submission win, Luke. So when you splash the pot like that and, you know, emotionally after the fight, yell into the microphone why you deserve this opportunity. I mean, she just finished a former champion champion the perennial contender of this division yeah i'm not against it luke whether it's juliana pena rocky pennington i'm not exactly sure uh i don't think anybody i don't think they are what the future of this division is but who could argue against what bueno silva did she was confident. She was aggressive. She used a lot of, look, she really came out there with, I mean, it seemed like a plan.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I mean, that was a shocking finish is what I'm talking about. They were on fairly even terms in the first round. Holm did a lot of this modern Holm leaning against the fence like she's Kenny Florian challenging BJ Penn. It's like throw some strikes a little bit. But for Silva to break open that action in the second round and get that finish, yeah, it's a monster statement. Give her the shot, Luke. Give her the damn shot.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I don't know what else the UFC is supposed to do at this point. I mean, this fight was okay in the first round. To your point, Holm doing basically Holm things, kind of doing those blitzes that she does and then gets off at an angle, side kicks, front kicks, and then leaning up against the fence and kind of grinding Bueno Silva out. And then she tried to go right back to it and then basically gets power guillotine again. They now call it a ninja choke.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I didn't really get a great read from it in either direction, but it doesn't really matter i guess finally people are starting to come up with answers for the game of holly holm and the division is catching up where she's moving on or kind of a combination of both okay fair enough there's something to take from that but it's like you know we we kind of didn't get a lot of there was no way that this main event was going to be able to cause a great degree of movement bc and we don't have a a champion in the weight class above, if the weight class even exists, or even this one. The UFC appeared to be somewhat noncommittal about what to do with it,
Starting point is 00:10:32 but there was at least some airing about the position here or there. It was pretty straightforward. I'm not saying that the title fight has to go through Bueno Silva next. I'm saying her next contest. Should be for the title. Now there was a little bit of back and forth. Both on social media and what they said. At the post fight press conference BC. So I wonder what you make of this.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I don't know. Kind of weird rivalry. It was even taking place a little bit before the fight. Between Bueno Silva and Juliana Pena. Do you have any feeling about. Whether that's an appropriate match to make next. Maybe outright. For the UFC women's bantamweight title? It is the appropriate matchup.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So let's be honest about this. And I was complicit in this laziness. There was this laziness here of, well, if there's going to be a vacant title at stake, let's just put Holly Holm in it. She's consistent. She is a huge name. We all love her, right? But I'm actually glad the way this played out. Buono Silva, I think, did this division a favor. Because whether Holly Holm was going to be in a vacant title fight or whether she was going to, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:30 pull an upset and start a second reign when she's been so close before after initially holding that for one fight, that's still Holly Holm represents the past, okay? Buono Silva here, 10 years younger, biggest win of her career and doing it in, in, in, you know, clear and dominant fashion right here. It's better for the division. If it is to have a future and it looks like it will 145, uh, you know, you gotta believe it's done. You have to believe it's done moving forward. Uh, let's put in youth. Let's put in people with a potential longer, brighter ceiling. And if you can get a little bit of heat in there, and it seems like Juliana Pena wants heat with anybody she has the chance to go across from.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, this is starting to look like that right matchup. Pena can bring people in to make them care. No, you don't have a former champion in here. You know, Bichette's not going to come through that door and deserve a title shot. We made our bits about what if Rousey came back? Well, she's not. So this is your future. Go the direction here of the hot hand, somebody who you can show the highlight of just finishing Holly Holm.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, Luke, let's do it. It's time for new life in this division because this had been the Ronda Rousey division to start it and the Amanda Nunes division to cement her path to, you know, Hall of Fame, all time great immortality. Now it's time to find out what we have. And I don't care if this title does bounce around like a hot potato. It's time for new contenders to emerge in a division that unfortunately has been getting shallower the more Amanda has, you know, cleaned it up and cleaned it out two or three times over. Let's start for the new Luke. I mean, you know, Holly could have brought people in the building for a vacant title fight,
Starting point is 00:13:08 but they didn't go in that direction. So it only serves them right that the younger fighter with a brighter ceiling who came out aggressive and handled her business should be in it. And if we can get a little heat between her and Juliana, man, that's what it's all about, Luke. That's what it's all about. I mean, if they make that matchup, Luke, I'm not really sure who should be the betting favorite. And is this me showing
Starting point is 00:13:27 more disrespect to the game of Juliana Pena? Outside of that Amanda win, she just doesn't have elite wins in this division, in this era. I wonder if Bueno Silva could be the, you know, the hot hand coming into that one too, and could pull this off off i think it's the matchup to make which port-a-john did you dip that mug in to get that to get that drink mix you have there i don't have to tell you what's in the what's in the what's in the jar luke okay yeah you know you know you're right you don't have to tell me here's what you are telling me though is that your blender sucks ass that's what you're telling me no i hand blended this one it was like a so it was a last minute my wife was was working in her office, Luke. She's like, hey, I got this, I got this new powdered protein coffee mix.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Just put it in a glass of ice and mix it up, Luke. But, you know, I was running out of time, so I did it by hand. And yeah. Yeah, it shows. Is this cup ready for primetime? No. Am I with MMA hot takes, Luke? It doesn't matter what color my belt is.
Starting point is 00:14:24 You're damn right I am, right? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, dude, this fight, here's the thing about this takes, Luke? It doesn't matter what color my belt is. You're damn right I am, right? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, dude, this fight, here's the thing about this division, right? It's like, Bueno Silva did exactly what the division needed. They needed, I mean, here's the crazy part, right?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Ronda's been gone since the last time she got pasted, which was against the Man of Nunes. What was that, BC? 2017, 2016, whatever it was, 2017? I believe it was December of 16, Luke. Yeah, so she gets pasted. Hasn't been seen since.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And then there was these rumors last week that she was potentially ready to come back. Now, of course, Errol Hawane, I think, has thrown some cold water on that. But nevertheless, there were these rumors, and people were like, well, what would she do there? And I'm like, dude, she could pick up right where she left off. You had a fight with Holly Holm,
Starting point is 00:15:04 depending on how things went with Saturday. I guess now that might not be nearly as interesting. But you could definitely do the Misha Tate fight again. You know, you could run that back a million times if you needed to. And so, like, it was amazing to me that, you know, some of the same players were still all there doing the exact same things that they were before. There just wasn't a lot of important, meaningful turnover in the way that there should have been. It seems like now we're finally getting that. On the other hand, I actually like, I almost never one of these people who like roots for people to trash talk one
Starting point is 00:15:36 another. Not that it bothers me. I just don't like, I don't really need it. I don't, it doesn't meaningfully enhance my experience all that much. all that usually. In this particular case, though, I actually think anything that they can do to drum up rivalry, to put connectivity between them is important because it's like one of the situations now where we have a women's bantamweight division. Let me just be honest with you, BC. Other than just handing over a class of women to potentially Bellator or PFL or something, do they really need the women's bantamweight division at this stage? Again, the answer is probably yes.
Starting point is 00:16:08 But what I'm pointing out is its value is marginal relative to what it once was. The members, the new generation of this division, only they can be the ones to foster a different future. Getting ugly with one another, honestly honestly is not the worst idea in the world all things being what they are no it's not and it's the worst division right now if we don't consider that women's featherweight is an active division which i don't think it is so this is the worst but you do have some names not only could you put pena as the a side in a potential title fight against bueno silva which after this performance on saturday not a bad idea misha
Starting point is 00:16:44 tate could be one win away from a title you you know, a title, one more title shot if you're looking for a name to continue to build whoever is the champion right there. But Luke, they do need to turn this division into something fast. And sometimes a division can be dormant when there's a dominant champion on top and feel dormant. This one is. But look at what 125 did over the past year and a half and that infusion. Maybe if they officially closed the 145 division, there'll be no more tweeners or blown up
Starting point is 00:17:11 35ers at 45. Maybe that can bolster it. I'm not really sure, but this development on Saturday, look, this could have easily been a boring main event that went nowhere over five rounds. And we're just like, should we keep the division going no we had a finish against a legend and i really again echoing it i like what bondo silva did in the interview afterwards saying this is amanda's title this is brazil's title give me the chance to fight for it and carry on in that lineage yeah put a little bit of storyline on there put a little bit of connective tissue i can get down with it luke um but you know where are you going to put this fight you better put where whenever this vacant title fight takes
Starting point is 00:17:49 place as like the third offering on a loaded pay-per-view look right or you're at most at most do you think they go fight night main with this because they are surprising us by doing grasso shevchenko too in september although that seems obvious to attract the Mexican crossover population, where would you put Bueno Silva versus Peña if they go that way? I think they could put that at the top of a fight night. Again, not a fight night at the apex, although they might do that as well. But, you know, something like that. I think that'd be fine.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But, you know, if we're going to put a pay-per-view and this is the co-main, you know, that main better be something just out of the ordinary in the best possible way because that would not really be cutting it as a co-main that's what i mean i'm gonna ask you the toughest questions got some work to do i'm gonna ask you the toughest question you're gonna field all day luke you don't know let's say let's say you checked your dms right now holly hole i'm sliding in not to talk about your you know the reasons why you're not dying your hair right now while you're still young enough to pull it off luke she wants to know luke thomas i hear fighters reach out to you i hear you understand things what should i do moving
Starting point is 00:18:55 forward i just got stopped this isn't getting stopped by amanda this is getting stopped by a contender this just feels like a some level of a turning point for Holly at 41. What do you type back, Luke? She's waiting. Three dots popping up. What are you typing back to the former champion, the Hall of Famer, Holly Holm? Write an exit plan. Write an exit plan. I mean, 41 years of age, not so far out of it that you could, in every possible scenario,
Starting point is 00:19:21 eliminate title potential, right? Because the division, I mean, I don't think the UFC wants to go in that direction, and she did lose here, which I think, again, to your point, Elena Silva did the division and UFC a favor with that. So I don't want to say that, like, Holly Holm's done, her next fight she's definitely going to lose, and blah, blah, blah. She's up and she's down. She's 50-50, but she's 41,
Starting point is 00:19:40 and if you cannot reliably beat contenders fight over fight at age 41, you have to really be asking yourself what you can do how much longer could she actually go this is one of the first time that her movement looked fine to me but not it looked a little just a little bit clunky a little bit clunky which again at 41
Starting point is 00:19:58 years of age it kind of should this is only the inevitability and again I want to say something about Holly Holman like you know we're all kind of be like at the end of's career, they're never going to look their great. They're never going to look their best. And it's easy to kind of just dismiss them. Dude, Holly Holm is one of the best boxers for the female side ever. Certainly, she has been an accomplished MMA fighter.
Starting point is 00:20:16 She did great in kickboxing as well. This is a combat athlete through and through. But at age 41 and she's getting ninja choked standing in the second round of an apex main event it is pretty clear to me that the division has not entirely but the most important parts of it right now have either passed her by or are about to she doesn't she has probably not that many fights left she has to decide what she wants out of those one more hardcore push for the title and if that fails call it a day because bc we know how these stories really go they go from you winning to you losing to you losing decisively to you losing decisively and
Starting point is 00:20:50 getting ravaged in the process like what you've seen happen to tony ferguson since basically the justin gaethje fight and on right you want to avoid that so if you're 41 you have to have an honest look in the mirror about where you are i don't think she's completely out of the title picture i'd make one more go of it and then have an exit plan well you got to do the the misha tay rematch if the if you're the ufc it's a fun second chance great first fight but i mean well here's what's interesting we're we're writing holly off right now i don't know if she wants to continue she hasn't fallen off completely she kind of got caught here luke in this submission if we're being honest right she got submitted on her feet she wasn't knocked out it wasn't like she was
Starting point is 00:21:27 beaten into exhaustion and then she tapped out real question here luke real question let's say home had won not excitingly but had won how much of a chance would you have given her against whoever would be the best in this division if she was fighting painier for the title on saturday instead of buonailva you still would have given her a decent shot of winning right so that's probably the that's the tough spot that she's in like Luke I'm going to ask you straight up again
Starting point is 00:21:53 from the information that you know who's the best fighter in this division right now Yeesh right yeesh brother because you're gonna say pena luke but i'm gonna say show me the elite wins show me that it's not paying you it might be buena silva it might be it might be if you know what if ketlyn viera could tighten up some things she's not far from it honestly this is gonna sound stupid but if we just go back to what she's shown not what she did against Amanda Nunes I would not say Aldana I'm not gonna say she's listen
Starting point is 00:22:32 listen to me I'm not saying she's the best but I think that like using that as a gauge for what she's gonna show in her next fight is probably a bad idea um so yeah it's somewhere in there but like this is what I mean dude we're gonna be right back to flyweight where flyweight is exciting and the guys are highly technical, but you know, there is not a huge separation in one regard or the other. It feels like that's the case with fly, excuse me, with women's bantamweight. There's not a dramatic difference. Yeah. So to answer your question, the real answer is the best bantamweight in the world right
Starting point is 00:23:01 now, Luke Valentina Shevchenko. Cool. So I think if she loses to? Valentina Shevchenko. Cool. Do you think if she loses to Grasso, she goes up? Yep, and she regains it pretty darn quick, Luke. I do. I really do. I don't think that's crazy. Yep. There you go. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:18 By the way, do you think we're done with Holly Holm main events? Do you think that's the end? If they made this a main event, you're damn right they're gonna make her against Misha in the rematch a Apex main event. There's a difference, though, between Apex main events and real Fight Night main events. Um,
Starting point is 00:23:36 I'm gonna get off my soapbox of I've been saying for five years that Holly will fight for another title. We came pretty close. Probably should have been this time. She didn't. I'm off of that bet. Will she main event again? You're damn right she will, Luke. But I'll say this against her. I mean, the record of, you know, after that stretch of losing to all those elites in big fights, usually title fights, when she fights second level, I mean, her record's, you know, huge and strong. I still think she gets massive pops when i see her at open workouts
Starting point is 00:24:05 press conferences luke i mean you know you could always make the case that she's you know lived off of one fight and made a whole you know massive second career out of it and that would be incorrect that would be rude she's won fights after that but she she when you're when you're a fan favorite like that you get the pops the pops are still there luke her m that, you get the pops. The pops are still there, Luke. Her and Misha, that would get the pop. It would get the pop. Yeah, here's who she has lost to. Here's who she's lost to in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Misha Tate, but that was a fight that Tate was losing right up until she just basically wasn't. The Shevchenko fight on Fox. Jermaine Duran to me. Then she lost to Cyborg. Then she lost to Amanda Nunes. Then she lost to Kitland Vieira. Then she lost to Mayra Bueno Silva. Boy, the Braunes. Then she lost to Kit Lanvier. And then she lost to Myra Bueno Silva. Boy, the Brazilians, they have their way with her, it appears, in general.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Not always. So you're asking who's the best in the division. Whoever's left of that still in the organization is really what I would say. Then some of them have moved on or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, not a great main event. By the way, it wasn't until 1 a.m. I fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I didn't watch this shit live at all. At all. By the way, I wasn't until 1 a.m. I fell asleep. I didn't watch this shit live at all, at all. By the way, I cannot tell you. Hold on, let me just tell the audience something. I cannot tell you how many of your favorite media members, not anyone here because we don't have to, but how many of your favorite media members write to me on fight night being like, do you have to cover this shit live? And I'm like, like nope sure don't and
Starting point is 00:25:26 they're like oh my god i just cannot believe they have to speak imagine spending your saturday from like 7 until 1 a.m watching that like that is no no i mean a 10 p.m start of a six fight main card with no crowd that sucks thank you ufc but luke i did pull a lu Luke Thomas. I watched a good portion of the main card live, but with the volume down, in the eighth row, headphones on, vinyl blasting. So I was unable to critique Daniel Cormier. But, dude, I got a S-load of DMs of people who are, like, ready to remove DC from the announce booth. Is that fair, unfair, justified? Where do you sit on that, Luke? I've said that when you mix him with Rogan, you now get problems. booth is that why fair unfair justified where do you where do you sit on that luke i've i've i've
Starting point is 00:26:06 said that when you mix them with rogan you now get problems what about dc alone on a fight night yin yeah which where are you so hilariously people found the clip of me and you talking about this for the post fight show we did for ufc 290 being like we didn't like it when rogan and dc get together for two reasons one they kind of just they're just too podcasty, too chummy. And then two, they, they're, they're, they're mutual lack of understanding of stats, which is self-imposed. I like both gentlemen, but there's really no argument for otherwise. And then it'd be like, oh, look at you two failures in a hotel room. And it's like, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Like this is, this is why we're slinging arrows is because we're decidedly beneath them. But, but the point still stands like in those circumstances, I think there are fair criticisms to make of them. Now, I didn't watch the entire UFC Vegas, whatever number this was, 77 event. I watched a good chunk of it, and I watched it live. I watched two or three fights live ending up on the co-main. I stopped at the co-main and went to bed. I couldn't take it anymore. I didn't hear anything outside of what you normally hear from DC in any kind of Dom Cruise pairing that set off my alarm bells.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I don't know what people are complaining about. I understood a UFC 290. I will candidly tell you I'm not exactly sure what they're mad about this time. Nothing immediately occurred to me. How about that? All right. All right. Well, we'll let, let them work.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Let them live. Luke. You know what I mean? I mean, listen, I think DC is actually a good commentator in the right circumstances. Great personality. Great guy.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Great interview. Great fighter. Should they have wrestling knowledge? Really, really strong. Yeah. When he was reffing the WWE, they did him picture,
Starting point is 00:27:44 picture them doing him dirty look they did right you know what i mean vertical stripes on that man come on tell me what are the fans complaining about because actually now i'm curious to hear what it what it is what do they mad at him about they feel like uh well look the last card before this luke he had a bad night i don't know if you remember this was that 290 290 card yeah right yeah he he had a lot of like where he was in the middle of a point the point went nowhere he never finished it almost sounded that as if someone in his ear was like you know end it and and he kind of just ended it instead of wrapping it up that happened like four or five times you know i mean look yeah we do that
Starting point is 00:28:20 for this job for boxing it's it's not easy right sometimes you're watching the action in front of you in person sometimes you're looking at a monitor sometimes you're looking at your stats sometimes there's people in your ear i don't think he had a good card two cards ago this time around it may have been people just kind of now having a more keen eye of whether they like or don't like him and are picking in but yeah critiques with the analysis saying that he's not going deep enough other times saying that which you hear a lot that the broadcast is favoring one guy, not mentioning what Jack Della Maddalena's opponent was doing. Maybe this is a perfect transition to get into that fight, Luke.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Let me say one thing defending DC, if I may, and it actually bugs me when I see it. I see a lot of other fighters being like, man, DC is always getting after me on the commentary. I'm like, dude, no, he's not. He isn't nearly as mean or as vicious with his criticism as he could be, especially for certain fighters who merit it. I actually feel like he is, I'm not going to say kid-gloved. I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 00:29:17 He doesn't tiptoe around and try to be always nice about it. But he's, for the most part, I think when he's got a good criticism of someone, he sits it right in a fair tone and in a lane where what they're doing is really bad it's not the end of the world there's some things they could be doing better but this is not great i see a lot of fighters take issue with that when they have no grounds to do that at all at all to me dc is very fair with that kind of well what did you think of we'll see and have you seen this shit later when Chelsea Chandler was running away from Norma Dumont. But did you see where DC was like, I've never seen that before? And then Chelsea Chandler on Instagram put up the video of DC getting head kicked from John and running in the other direction. Was that a fair comeback?
Starting point is 00:29:57 This is what I mean, dude. Like, no, it's not a fair comeback. What he didn't mean, of course, you've seen guys or ladies sprint in certain directions at times or you know kind of stumble and kind of catch this looked like someone getting hit turning and like running almost as if like the place they were trying to get to was a mile away you know what i mean and actually i actually thought what chelsea chandler did we'll talk about here in just a minute was pretty smart so i actually think it worked out for her but yeah what you have to understand is if you're dc and you're watching
Starting point is 00:30:26 this it looks absurd in person it looks absurd to see someone turn and like full sprint in a way that's unusual even by fight standards where people kind of shuffle or then lean as they move their feet even by that standards it was unusual but of course this is what i mean about the fighters being like incapable incapable of listening to daniel cormier's uh in this particular case less so criticism more his bafflement at it without taking it personally like do you think he really meant that shit personally of course he didn't and she posted that they can't they cannot take criticism at all they can't yeah i mean they probably can't luke i mean what what yeah i don't know i mean what if people started making youtube videos about you what if they did a luke thomas reddit page luke
Starting point is 00:31:12 would you take that shit personally i mean i'm sure it would be awful but uh what you can't fight the internet you cannot fight i mean this i'm not also can't fight the seether, Luke, right? The what? The seether. The seether? Can't fight the seether. Is this some kind of like Dr. Seuss-Wunzler reference that I don't know? Sorry, Luke, I've been waiting for the 90s reference thing to pop up. Yeah. Dude, I mean, listen, they're just smoking a bong in the hitting a bong rather in the uh
Starting point is 00:31:46 in the break room there come on you understand how this works all right uh all kidding aside let's go to point number two here if we can that was veruca salt luke sorry veruca salt veruca salt yes yes oh yes now i remember dude that is a that's like that's like mid 90s that's a little bit different that's the 90s that was still good that was still the 90s luke it's just the 90s to me right no but 98 and 92 i mean it's just six years but the ethos of what was going on was radically different between 92 and 98 okay question number two bc we go right back to you on this one so you you had kind of referenced it now jack de la metalina got it done in the end it was a split decision i didn't think it necessarily needed to be, but here's what we can say. It was a very, very tough fight against late replacement Basel Hafez.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Basel Hafez, boy, he showed up big time. Did he not, BC? So here's my question to you. De La Maddalena didn't fumble it. He got it done. But there were some questionable decisions. All the guillotine pulling was really weird. And Basel Hafez gave him everything he could handle.
Starting point is 00:32:50 How do we read this? How do we read this for Jack Dylan Madalena? I think you have to read it for exactly what it was, which is not an easy assignment. JDM thought he was going to get, I don't want to even say showcase because it wasn't. He thought he was going to go out to 290, biggest pay-per-view of the year, and take on Sean Brady in like a massive fight to show exactly where he's at. You know, that could have been a, you know, life or death type of fight. Then he goes through replacement opponent. Replacement opponent gets sick. He almost fights Chris Curtis. Then he decides to stay in the States to make the trip worth it. And then on five days
Starting point is 00:33:22 notice, they get a dude who has nothing to lose so this is one of those weird fights that is very reminiscent it's weird to make this boxing crossover to the last fight of the great hall of famer lennox lewis's career lennox lewis i should say when vitally when vitally klitschko came in as a late replacement and that is a different circumstance because he had a chip on his shoulder literally when he had hurt his shoulder against chris bird he had pulled out of that fight in mid-fight people thought he was a wuss he's not strong you remember what happened he they the x-ray showed he would have lost his shoulder if that fight went on he went in there against lennox lewis that night and turned it into a pierce six brawl right off the stop. That's exactly what JDM's opponent
Starting point is 00:34:06 did here. That's why I don't really hold this against him. He had a tough wild card opponent that he had no time to prepare for. You have to understand the circumstances of waiting another week. And this guy came out guns blazing, used up half of his energy in the first round, trying to take JDM down. You did get to see some deficiencies exposed in Jack Della Maddalena's ground game, of course, because of how aggressive his opponent was. But Luke, when your opponent is going to stand with his back to the cage, as Hafez did multiple times, and just swing for the fences, you've got a chance of getting caught if you're Jack.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You've got a chance of not looking great because it's so wild. Basically what I'm saying is Hafez took his swing. He went all in. He damn nearly put himself into positions to pull this off. But at the end of the day, the better fighters stayed the course, got it done. Can you pick apart Jack's ground game? Yes. But what he was able to do, especially in that third round, it wasn't a 10-8 round on anybody's card, but you could have argued that it could
Starting point is 00:35:11 have been. When given the opportunity to put the fight away, I felt Jack did that. I gave him rounds two and three. I thought round one had to go to Hafez. But Luke, when you're facing somebody who's there to fight, not going to be easily put away and is willing to max out their gas tank in the first half of the fight to try to take advantage of that upset. It's hard not to get lured into that, especially when you had no time to prepare. So I think this will go down as a net gain for Jack in the long run. It's an experience he endured and survived.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And I think the negatives you can pull out of there in my opinion luke are not critical uh you know to slow down his future development i think in general we all said look he's got to get better on the ground to equal what he can do on the feet i thought ultimately what he did on the feet here was fine times he was a little bit too wild because he was pulled into it but he survived he advanced next opponent next opponent, next in line. So I'm generally going to be complimentary about both guys. So on the Hafez side, man, I wrote this on Twitter, and I'll repeat it here, which is you see these guys who come into these short-nosed circumstances, and after the fight, Hafez, seemingly from the hospital,
Starting point is 00:36:24 was admitting that this was an intensely difficult weight cut. And, of course, didn't have even remotely anything approximating a full camp. He barely even had a week to get ready for that one. And still went in there and fought a very tough guy in very tough circumstances. And absolutely gave it to him. Those circumstances don't tell you exactly how far Hafez will go. It's not a reliable indicator in that way. However, what it is reliable as an indicator for is when shit goes bad for a guy, what can he show you? And it just goes to show that when Hafez has a tough weight cut,
Starting point is 00:36:59 poor preparation, probably had very little game plan that was even available to him, you name it, he still went in there and turned in one hell of an effort. So I am curious to see what he actually can do when the wind is at his back, rather than what he is doing marching uphill. But at least we know when he's marching uphill, he's going to be first at the top of it. Pretty interesting to watch that. That's what I'll say in his defense. And I agree with you. You know, people think that because you're the person, you know, who's like the higher ranked one or the more established one,
Starting point is 00:37:29 that even if you take on someone on short notice, you already had a camp. You should have been ready. It's not much of a change when, in fact, it can really trip guys up. I know that there's a PED calendar that people like to ascribe to it. But I was there when Jon Jones fought Ovin St. Preux on short notice. And he just looked really weird. He looked off. It wasn't a great night for him.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And I think it was in part related to the fact that he had this short notice opponent, even though he got the job done, like Jack De La Matalana. But BC, I want to throw two things back at you, okay? Here's what I did notice. And it's not to say that this is something he couldn't get around with game planning, especially in the first case. But in the second case, I'm a little bit more skeptical. One, why the fuck did he keep going for the guillotine?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Even his own corner was yelling at him to stop that shit. Even they were clearly like, dude, what in the fuck are you doing? And he kept going for it, inadvisably, over and over. That, to me, is not a great sign, although it's hard to say exactly what that means. But the other one I think might get him in trouble a little bit too is he loves to throw combinations, which I think are great, but he doesn't really move a lot in the pocket, does he?
Starting point is 00:38:33 How many times did you see him get tuned up in the pocket by Hafez just kind of throwing back whatever he could? De La Maddalena doing the better work. I don't think there was a scoring controversy, certainly for the third round, and to me, not even really for the second round. So he wins fairly. What I'm saying is BC, how many times did he open himself up to big shots by not moving in the pocket? These are things that I do worry about him taking into his next fight. Am I, am I being too harsh?
Starting point is 00:39:02 No, because look, Hafez created chaos. He created abject chaos. Like, I don't hold against Jack in the same way you do some of his striking reactions there, because it's not going to be often, Luke, against an elite foe that they're going to come out that level of guns blazing, right? Like, so I think that he endured that unexpected chaos the best he could. And again, he was the fresher fighter late and damn near got a 10-8 down the stretch. Did he stand in front of this guy too much? Yeah, but I also think, look, I mean, Hafez is just throwing home run punches with his hands down and his chin out.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I don't begrudge Jack trying to— All the more reason not to stand in front of him. Sure, but I also, if you're Jack and you're a striker and you're strong in that area, I don't begrudge him a chance to stand in and try to clock him good. But Hafez showed a chin, showed him crazy recuperative skills to keep coming back i think he just had an animal on his hand somebody who has a chance to be good like you said with a full camp there i don't know you can poke and prod this is the first time we've seen him in this type of chaos this side but look look when you have a run that he's had, now, didn't he lose his first two fights of his pro career,
Starting point is 00:40:06 which is really rare, right? Hafez, let me verify that right now. No, I'm talking about JDM, Luke. Oh, JDM. JDM's, yes, first two fights. So he's put together a 15-fight. He got punched out in the third and punched out in the first. He's obviously a completely different fighter from those days.
Starting point is 00:40:23 He's put together now a 15 fight win streak but on the majority of this win streak luke he's had massive striking advantages against these guys where he probably hasn't had to fight back or dial back or make huge adjustments in a wounded animal against him who who made him show you know made him show his cards earlier than he wanted to but jack wasn't floored yes there's gonna have to be some ground conversations but when the corner really dug in and we're like like you said stop going to the ground i don't think jack was aware of how quickly hafez like anthony smith who they who they brought on the broadcast having experienced training with hafez you know how quickly hafez was
Starting point is 00:41:00 yeah he was getting guillotined but he'd quickly move into side position and improve himself and i don't think jack was on to that. Once they told him, Luke, he did exactly what they told him. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Dude. Yeah. When the first time he learned a guillotine, he learned guillotine defense. I, I, I, I guarantee it.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I guarantee it is well known. That was the hole. Then that was the hole. They're going to jump to the, they're going to jump cross body, dude cross body dude there's no way he did like i understand the first two times like oh wow that guy he was quick with it right he was really like on top of it but the fact that like after the third time and then you're still doing in the second and third rounds it's like dude what are not their robots in the second round dude what are we doing what are we doing well it's like look i make the klitschko lewis reference which isn't an easy one because we're talking about a hall of famer in vitally klitschko and at this point
Starting point is 00:41:48 you know former and then future world champion at the time he fought lennox but my point was luke he came in there on short notice and decided to just jump the gun and give everything he had and after that fight you know if you remember that interview on hbl larry merchant was kind of getting on for you know lennox almost being like this fight say you know this stoppage saved you and lennox is like do you see his face i took his face apart and i and i think the spirit of that argument i'd like to apply it to jack not because i'm overlooking the deficiencies he showed but again it's not often you're going to see this it's not often your opponent's going to come out and risk it all in the first five minutes ultimately luke he listened to his corner he
Starting point is 00:42:31 made the adjustments it's going to be up to him now to go back to the camp and improve on this let's let's see the next fight on even terms and see what type of uh you know setbacks he's still showing i guarantee this will end up being a blessing in disguise is really what I'm saying. I mean, he showed great determination, great metal, great grit to get hit and to lose some of the bottom position and still come out and win on top. I want to be clear, I still am very high.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Like, this didn't change my opinion on how high I would get with him, but it was surprising. It was surprising that he had some of these missteps that I thought were very easy to counter. Now, BC, let me ask a question this way. You're Sean Brady, and you're watching this fight. What conclusion do you draw from it?
Starting point is 00:43:15 That I can shoot, shoot, and shoot some more, Luke. I mean, obviously, Sean Brady coming off of the stoppage loss to Bilal Muhammad at the time and the way that it happened. He's got a lot of questions to answer regarding his striking to bring it up to that level but if they have plans to run this back and it really would be a nice pivotal sort of who's coming who's going type of moment there in this division as much as you're going to have to show improved striking what Hafez was able to do I'll echo it again was he forced jack to show cards early that he's either never had to before or never expected that he had to that's got to give brady confidence to know that that jack's not a finished product on the ground by any means in that scenario where sean brady thrives i think it's got to give him a ton more confidence coming back to this if they do
Starting point is 00:44:00 this i really agree i mean here's the interesting part right like sean brady on the ground to me is better than hafez. Hafez is good. Like, Hafez is actually very good. But I do think it's fair to say that Brady's a little bit better. Okay, however, dude, Hafez was like, bop, bop, and then on you, right? Like, one, two, level change. Not fucking around at all.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Whereas Brady is obviously more scientific with it. But that's going to give De La Maddalena more opportunities to move on his own, to fake, to strike, and turn the angle or whatever. So on the one hand, it's like if you're Brady, you must have been licking your chops once the fight got to the ground and been like, dude, I could do that, I could do that, I could do that. On the other hand, just speaking
Starting point is 00:44:37 realistically, Hafez was just bulldozing his way through in ways that we just haven't seen Brady do. But it's an interesting thing. I love your idea, BC. I really hope they run that one back. I hope they do, De La Maddalena versus Sean Brady. I like what each guy brings to the other one as a way of being like,
Starting point is 00:44:58 we know you've got weaknesses in these directions. What can you say about it when we give you a specialist in that regard? Fun fight still. Fun fight if they make it. Indeed. I mean, look, there's going to be people that are going to be like the the hype's been exposed all that luke i mean look you could be near perfect but someone's always on the internet is going to focus on the one thing you screwed up i'm not here to tell you that that you should do anything but continue to to buy stock in jack de la man atlanta it's not without key instructions and areas he knows he needs to work, but it's still early Luke. He was about to fight the, you know, a ranked guy, the toughest guy he
Starting point is 00:45:29 could face. I'm still in that direction that he can be that dude. Okay. Very good. Let's go to point number three here. If we can be seen on the rest of this UFC Vegas card, there were some standouts. There were some interesting fights along the way, and there was some good results and some bad ones too. So BC for any reason, good or bad, who else stood out to you from this card on Saturday? Well, I've got to mention that Norma Dumont-Chelsea Chandler fight, Luke, and not that Chelsea Chandler of the 209 is a world beater in this division, or not that there's even a division anymore. This very well could have been the last fight in a 145-pound history.
Starting point is 00:46:02 We have no idea what's going on moving forward but norma dumont through a uh what turned into a juicy little bit of a last minute rivalry between these two i don't know if you saw some of the shoving and middle fingers uh backstage at the weigh-in between these two there was extra sort of energy into this fight and dumont just looked like the more professional more pinpoint fighter but luke she had whether it you know, created by the trash talk or not, she had some backbone, some spite to her offense. And she dominated this fight against someone who was there to survive and try to create a big moment. So I give a credit to Chandler for taking the clean beating and continuing to coming. But Dumont was clinical and she looked like a title contender.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And to her credit, Luke, she tried her best afterwards to say UFC, like, I'm still here. I'm still winning fights. Obviously, Luke, there's no division. Who is she going to fight? I don't even know if she fights in the UFC again. I don't know if she can make 35. I don't know anything about the future.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But what I do know, dealt a bad hand here, more or less. Dumont came out and was one of the biggest winners of the night, without question. Yeah, I agree. That was... And by the way, credit to Chelsea Chandler, she got rocked, then she ran to the fence, which again, I'm just going to say, hey, it bought her time. Everyone's like, everyone was clowning her
Starting point is 00:47:20 for it because it looked goofy, and it looked goofy. She's tough as shit. Be honest, she's tough as shit. Tough as fucking shoe leather. To back and then like stay in that fight for as long as she did i mean they went to a decision so like you know that was the first round right where she got drilled that way if i recall maybe it was the second and most i think it was the first anyway i agree with you i thought that she showed great uh toughness but they're the skills issue ultimately i think is what hurt her and i don't know what the hell they're gonna do with 145 bc how about this name we should remember how about june young park june young park defeated albert deria which is not necessarily some grand surprise but derive
Starting point is 00:47:56 came out and looked good really early he took the fight to june young park rocked the shit out of him and just like in the chandler fight uh j Young Park had to come back, get his wits about him, and then he ends up winning in the end in round two via rear naked choke. Dude, listen to his win streak at this point. Jun Young Park, of course, obviously out of South Korea with a last name like Park, 32 years of age, so not exactly a youngster, not exactly a youngster. In his last four fights, he's beaten your boy, Eric Anders, Joseph Holmes, I don't know who that is, Dennis Chulian, I don't know how to pronounce his last name. So, you beaten your boy, Eric Anders, Joseph Holmes. I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Dennis Chulian. I don't know how to pronounce his last name. So, you know, a couple of wins there. The Eric Anders one is good. A couple of names there that aren't necessarily huge. But Duraev, while flawed, is still very, very talented. And again, I'm going to point it out one more time. Started out with an early lead, really hurting this guy.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And he came back and put it on him. Dude, you can start giving Park some real tough fighters. Now, he proved a lot with this win. I love what I saw from him, both here and here. Good fighter, great win, tough test. And he answered it. Love it. Yeah, and then he, like, I mean, dude, he looked like he was about to be knocked out on two hardcore occasions there.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So to be able to show that type of resiliency and poise and pull it off. In fact, Luke, I went up to use the restroom thinking that, you know, this guy was on his way, Duraev, to, you know, me making maybe a hammer in my cupboard behind me. And I come back and Park's got his hand raised. And it's like, what? Did a hole fall? Did Zuck come in and tap somebody out, Luke? Did a hole open up in the cage? Did the Sarlacc pit come back, Luke?
Starting point is 00:49:30 I don't know. But no, he got the job done there. I mean, how much should we be raving about some of these wins, Luke? It was hard to find a ranked fighter on here. Like, dude, Francisco Prado took it to Azatar. But like, I don't know. Stoppage was a little bit weird. Also, BC, we should probably mention something about the stoppage
Starting point is 00:49:48 in the case of the Terrence McKinney fight because he took to Twitter. So he loses to Nazeem Sadikov, and he eventually gets choked out. So the choke itself was fine. There was no issue there. The issue was in the first and second rounds, and I actually take Terrence McKinney's side on this one. He notes that he actually showed the video where Sadikov has his hand on the fence. was in the first and second rounds and actually take Terrence McKinney's side on this one he notes that he actually showed the video where Sadikov has his hand on the fence now one more time for
Starting point is 00:50:10 folks who don't know you can touch the fence with your hand what you cannot do is grip the webbing of it you cannot actually put your hand through that way so I always tell people if you want make a closed fist and use that to push against the fence rather than your hand to avoid any issue with the referee. And Keith Peterson, you see him try to swat the hand away, which is common, and I think allowed in almost every jurisdiction, whether or not that is an enumerated rule on the bylaws that the referees have. Here's my point. You watch him do it.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I don't mind the referee swatting the hand away if it works pretty quickly, right? But this goes on for, like, a little while where he's still, like, banging on it a little bit, like he's playing whack-a-mole and then the whole time terence mckinney's underneath this guy solidifies his position my point being is the whole point about smacking someone's hand is it has to work quickly because if it doesn't and then they're able to hold on to that while something changes underneath them it now just turns into the referee facilitating the grabbers advantages. I don't like that at all.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I think Terrence McKinney is right, actually. So this goes for all combat sports. You do realize like the amount of time put in by these referees to state their case. They go into the locker room before each fight, tell each fighters, here's the things I'm looking for. Here's the things don't do. Like they get full instructions in the locker room, in in the back in front of the fighter and their team and then obviously they you know sometimes run through them when they're touching gloves before the start of the fight luke i i don't it's the same debate i think we had on the last episode about uh or on monday's show i don't know when we did it luke
Starting point is 00:51:37 about herb dean and those 12-6 elbows sort of like constantly giving counsel to the fighter no not like that well not like that i mean these fighters know the rules, Luke. Their team knows the rules. Give a warning. Happens again. You're in your right to, you know what I'm saying? Depending on the egregiousness of the offense or give multiple warnings.
Starting point is 00:51:58 But the whole point is you playing this cat and mouse game, it's almost like I'm going to keep getting away with this every time he sees me and he slaps it. The best way to get rid of that is a real slap luke which is the threat and the eventual takeaway of a point that would clean that shit up quickly would it not uh i that's exactly what they should have done you can let you can even leave him in position if you want but you're taking a point right then and there like you ever see these parents of young kids luke they're like my child won't eat they just won't eat anything they're so picky did you ever see these parents of young kids, Luke? They're like, my child won't eat. They just won't eat anything. They're so picky. Did you ever try intimidating them and forcing it into their mouth, Luke?
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah, I mean, I don't know about you. I try not to feed Tukey like she is a political prisoner at Guantanamo Bay. Like she's in prison. No, no. And we have to do forced rectal feedings. No, I don't intend on doing that. Okay, no, I didn't. Yeah, I didn't go there, Larry, but thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:43 That's a real thing. That's a real thing that happened to Guantanamo prisoners. They went on a hunger strike and they got forced rectal feeding. Don't want to know. Yeah. Okay. Two more notes very quickly on this one, BC. Aileen Perez beat the fucking bags off of Ashley Evans-Smith.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Holy shit. That was bad. 30-25 on some of those scorecards, I believe. Also, did you see the elbow dislocate on Estella Nunez against Victoria Dudakova? Pretty gross. All these moments that you're referencing directly and indirectly, Luke, you'll see on Have You Seen This Shit, including twerking that thang, Luke,
Starting point is 00:53:14 right? That's a new thing in the cage now. That's what we do when we win, Luke. Listen, I wasn't even looking at pornography on Saturday, and I still had a lot of TNA on my timeline. I wasn't fighting it. I wasn't fighting it. You know what I'm saying? All right. All right. Luke seems self-defeating to be like enough of these titties. Like I was just going to let it rock, you know? All right. Let's go to point number four. If we can, here we go.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Luke, that should be a t-shirt. Enough of these titties with the MK logo below. Enough of these titties. I'm logo below. Enough of these titties. I'm sick of them. I mean, who's that guy? Like, do you remember when women started wearing yoga pants and there was guys complaining? I'm like, dude, shut the fuck up. Like, who the fuck would complain about this? This is a win for everybody.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. All right. Point number four, if I can, BC. Tom Aspinall is fighting this weekend. The UFC is returning to London. Now, BC, it's interesting. The ticket sales up to this point have been somewhat lackluster.
Starting point is 00:54:10 There's a few reasons for that. There's no Patti Pimblitt on the card, who, of course, is one of the biggest stars. That's noteworthy. It's a fight in that card. It's not a pay-per-view, so you don't have a lot of the other stars that would ordinarily be there. I'm also told that the prices are high and that inflation is still kind of bad in the UK relative to the United States. And so the ticket sales have been somewhat lacking, but that's really not what I wanted to focus on, BC. Instead, it is the return of Tom Aspinall. Yes, he is back. He's fighting Marcin Tybura. Now, BC, here's why I bring this up. He has not fought in a year,
Starting point is 00:54:41 which was the very short little thing he had against curtis blades that went you know uh dead before it ever got alive really and he hasn't won a fight in 16 months going back to volkov so tell me with a win on saturday is tom aspinall really on the cusp of a title shot i think he is i think he is luke but but here's the deal though it comes down to timing if stipe is next if we're under the assumption which you are not that john stays then that would probably mean that sergey pavlovich stays idle until he gets a chance at the winner maybe i'm wrong it would be the shot after that but luke you also if tom Tom Aspinall wins on Saturday and does so, you know, in triumphant homecoming fashion, let's say even with a finish, let's not forget by the way, though, that his opponent Tabura, despite being 37, which isn't ancient at heavyweight, has won seven of his
Starting point is 00:55:36 last eight. This is a big step up moment for him, just the same. But yeah, dude, if Aspinall goes out there and finishes him, do you, do you, I don't know, you spin this on me. Yes, I say he's in the title picture because of this. That's a huge market there in the UK that they've gone back to many times. They want to star. They want to star there in Europe that they can build upon in this division. Aspinall is that dude as long as he can come back in and the knee's not an issue. Would you put him in against Pavlovich, Luke? Or would you kind of keep both either busy in ways they should win?
Starting point is 00:56:09 Or, I mean, what do you do? Because, Luke, you know it. This division is kind of shallow. He's got a big name and big following. If he wins, he's in it. But does he have to go through Sergei Pavlovich to get there? I kind of feel like he does. I will tell you what.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I mean, here's my, here's my only issue, BC. The win over Volkov was so clean. It was so nice. It just did so many things, right? You're like, holy shit, man. Like had he beaten Curtis blades, there would be no question in my mind, but you know, I don't fault him for losing in that sense. I mean, it ended on injury before it ever got started. Just a terrible set set of circumstances but we didn't get an answer and beating marching taibora if that were to happen on saturday does not answer that question either quite frankly like you're really going to tell me we're going to give a title shot i know he has more wins than this but the last two being volkov and marching taibora that gets you a fight
Starting point is 00:57:02 against potentially john jones i just don't believe that. Sorry, I don't buy that. Not even with the U.K. factor? You don't think so? If they put that in the U.K., John Jones against Tom Aspinall at Wembley? Come on, Luke. Soccer stadium.
Starting point is 00:57:17 That wouldn't do Wembley because that would require them to try, which I guess they don't really want to do these days. So it wouldn't be there. But it would be at the O2, which would be big. Yeah, you could do it. You could do it. You could certainly do it. There's no denying that.
Starting point is 00:57:29 If he goes in there and reasserts himself against Marcin Dabur and just blows the doors off of him, which, by the way, is on the table, I think you could go back to London and put a fight there. So yes, but that's really not my point. My point being is that would not be a great test to see actually how well he would do. There's a couple guys at that very top. Blades is one of them i think pavlovich is another one gone is another one you need to beat one of those three in my mind to really be that guy who's at the top so what i'm saying to you is when i look at tape do i think tom aspinall is crazy talented yes of
Starting point is 00:57:59 course i do i think he's very talented and i am so happy that he's back i think the division needs it i think he's going to be great for the UK. There's nothing bad about this. Rather, if he goes in there and like, let's say he submits Tybura like he did Volkov relatively quickly into the, what was it, the first round, I believe, the second at worst, you know, are you really going to be like, wow, he's, we know for a fact what he's got to offer Jon Jones. Like, no, you clearly don't.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Pavlovich, there's obviously some that's still unknown, but I would feel much more at ease knowing he, A, had proved it with the wins, and B, had shown a much fuller sense of his game, including with the initial loss to Overeem. It just seems like you're just risking Tom Aspinall up there. Maybe he performs. Maybe he shows you he wasn't quite ready for the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Let's not do Aspinall against, what's-name, Luke the Killer, if he wins here. You do mention interesting things about who's still left in this division, who still needs to prove themselves. So let's talk about it, Luke. Jon Jones, the champion, is going to face No. 3, Stipe Miocic. Sergei Pavlovich is the guy, the other one, deserving. What do you think about No. 4 Curtis Blades coming off a loss, going up against No. 7 Alexander Volkov coming off a win
Starting point is 00:59:09 in a rematch of a fight that Blades dominated early and then really had to hold on late through exhaustion to hang on? Do you like that 4 versus 7 Blades-Volkov? Sure. I think Blades haskov? Sure. I think Blades has to get wins like that by virtue of the losses that he accrues at times. Yes. Then we have No. 6, Tai Tuivasa. By the way, Volkov is fighting Tuivasa in Sydney.
Starting point is 00:59:35 It should be noted. Okay, that's it. I thought Tuivasa was fighting Spivak. So you've got Spivak at 8, Luke. You've got Jelton Almeida at 9, which is a name we obviously have to keep close. Ty Burra here at number 10. Aspinall at five. So Cyril Gahn, Luke, what are we doing with him in this scenario?
Starting point is 00:59:51 Tom Aspinall's got this fight. We'll talk about it this week on how he can win it or what the matchup states. But we're talking about the larger heavyweight picture. How about Gahn Pavlovich then? Gahn Pavlovich. You could dolovich you could do that you could do that sure uh you still have to figure out what to do with Aspinall if he wins here um okay well this is what I'm doing I'm making dance partners here okay look right right in front of your eyes so Almeida yeah wow then again you're doing that thing where you have two red hot potential title challengers.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Right. All right. I'm just saying, I'm just saying if Aspinall goes in there and just blows the doors off of Chabura, right? Let's just say he does that. I'm not saying I'm calling for this fight or I even think it's a good idea for the division's sake. But like just as a fight on fight terms, Aspinall versus Almeida sounds fun as shit. I mean, it just sounds really great, you know. Interesting. I don't know if Sergey Spivak. I thought he has a fight coming up, Luke, doesn't he? I do not know about Spivak. Maybe one of our intrepid producers can let us know.
Starting point is 01:00:52 But he has also obviously been on the rise of late as well. He has turned things around for his career in a dramatic way too. But Blades versus Almeida is targeted for November. Blades, Almeida, November. That's a tough one. I love that fight. Let's do Curtis Blades versus Almeida is targeted for November. Blades, Almeida, November. Oof. I love that fight. That's a tough one. I love that fight.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Let's do Curtis Blades. Only fights fucking tough-ass, unenviable tasks over and over and over again. It really is amazing what he's willing to do. Okay, for not being a deep division at the moment, after John Stipe, we still have unproven, yet we need to see them guys ready for huge either title fights or No. 1 contender fights in Pavlovich, Aspinolfi wins on Saturday, and Gialton Almeida. They have three rising wild cards and old guard representatives now in Cyril Ghosn, Curtis Blades, who still, you know, you can't say they're done making a run at the title. It's not awful right now. It's not a deep division.
Starting point is 01:01:46 It's not one of the best divisions in the sport. But not bad. Not bad. If we can get a couple of those elite pairings we haven't gotten yet, I think we'll have some really, really fun heavyweight fights and some strong contenders emerge. Okay, do we see LoJack Kane? By the way, Gon versus Spivak main eventing in Paris in September.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Okay, so it shows what an idiot I am trying to put Ghosn in there against Pavlovich when it was the Spivak fight that was already announced. That's obviously a bit... So, Luke, that's interesting because Spivak is in the top 10, and his stock is high at the moment. If Ghosn wins that, you're not guaranteed a title shot considering the depth at the top here, right? Well, I mean mean do you deserve one like the the the egg that he laid against john jones was so bad dude so bad okay then what about
Starting point is 01:02:33 grapple too then am i seeing the future right am i gonna end up seeing cyril gone against tom aspinall and uh in a main event in the uk coming up is that what i'm gonna france france versus england that's a that's a fun that's a fun rivalry yeah i like that one okay okay that's all right we figured it out thank you it took us a while to figure it out could be fun could be fun all right bc last but not least let's talk a little bit on the on the box sale side boy i tell you what i tell you what the ghost got it done but it was not easy frank martin wins over artem haritunian but BC, the Armenian-German, now, we'll talk about the end of the fight where he voluntarily took a knee. He kind of, he ended this fight
Starting point is 01:03:13 the opposite way he started, in my mind, BC. So let me ask you, it still was very tough for Frank Martin, who got it done, but was the issue that the Armenian was more skilled than we gave him credit for? Did Martin look off? What was the issue? Why did Martin struggle in a fight that we thought he was going to cruise?
Starting point is 01:03:31 I thought, first of all, without question, Hartunian was better than we thought coming in. But there's a reason why we had these questions, right? Not a household name, never fought in the U.S. before. Armenian born, but raised in Germany, fought all of his pro fights in Germany, just had 17 of them coming in. But what did he show us? That along with being quicker and more accurate than I'm sure Frank Martin thought, he had a chin on him. That there were key moments, including the end of the sixth round, where it looked like Frank Martin was about to put it
Starting point is 01:03:59 together and turn back into the ghost, right, And just absolutely float through there. But what Hartunian did by not going anywhere in those hard moments was he stood right in front of Frank, but look, sneaky head movement, sneaky footwork, like he looked like a veteran technician in there and what that accomplished. I don't think anyone's ever done this
Starting point is 01:04:21 on the pro level to Frank Martin before. It lowered Frank Martin's output. It got him overthinking. It got him to the point where he's moving but not throwing. And I'll give Derek James credit. You want to see, you know, you want to hear why Derek James is considered the best trainer in the game today? He got in Frank Martin's ass, Luke, like he should have.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Go after him, throw punches. But look at the way Martin responded in those final three rounds especially right after james came at him steve farhood just so you know had hartunian up two round two points after the seventh round so this is a fight luke that ended up did martin need the knockdown to win no he needed the knockdown around 12 to get the unanimous decision though yes so did martin show that he's potentially human that he's not a you know an alien a superhero here it was a little bit humbling in that regard for him there's a little bit of a let's bring his stock down to earth he didn't run through him like we thought
Starting point is 01:05:15 but let's give hartunian a ton of credit he was tough he was game and he succeeded at taking away from frank martin in the first half and in part of the middle of the fight what Martin does great. That smart volume, that footwork. He's never there to fully be hit, but he's right in front of you darting in and out. His offense was suddenly down. And, Luke, I don't know if you noticed, as sublime as Frank Martin can be offensively, when he started just following Hartunian around without throwing, there were times he was squaring up. There were times where his mechanics were off.
Starting point is 01:05:46 You can almost tell like he really was in a chess match for the first time and was having difficulty in the moment. Again, does that give you pause that he's going to go out there and be considered, you know, as good as Haney and Tank and the other guys in around this division? Yes. But let's also see how he responded. Same analysis that I gave jack de la madeleina he was he he was pushed to a level where he showed his cards and you're like whoa maybe he's not
Starting point is 01:06:10 exactly who we think he can become yet but what did they both do down the stretch dude frank martin kicked this guy's ass down the stretch forced him to take the koto knee i know saying the koto knee is one of the most offensive things you can say in boxing twitter because koto voluntarily took the knee against Margarito in the first fight where the handrails were there. Loaded gloves. Yeah, I mean, it is. But look, boxing Twitter is ruthless. He took the damn Cotto knee against him. That's because Frank Martin woke up and brought it.
Starting point is 01:06:36 So, Luke, again, this is going to be one of those things that will make Frank Martin better down the line. But I do believe you'd have to guess there were people watching. Potential opponents who were going. Ah, maybe he's not that guy. Still could become it, Luke. But damn, he needed this. Because there was a guy who made him get off script. And he needed his coach getting up in him.
Starting point is 01:06:57 To wake him up and bring him back. You know what the issue was with that Michelle Rivera fight? Michelle Rivera tried to be the slickster between them. And Frank Martin, that's a terrible thing to do against Frank Martin but Haratunian didn't give fuck about any of that Haratunian was just marching on in I mean it was a little more slick than that I don't want to say he had no skill certainly that's not quite the way I mean at all I just mean the amount of pressure that he was providing you know you give time to Frank Martin to settle you give him time to pick his shots judiciously and
Starting point is 01:07:26 he will do exactly that if you don't and you play hurry up offense with him it's a lot harder for him to get going but basically we gotta talk about that last round where he takes the knee this is the thing for me like how many times have you seen that we're like for example we talked about the it's not quite exactly the same but a little bit of the de la joya trinidad fight where de la joya basically like punted on the last round thinking like hey i've got this in the bag say again last four rounds de la joya basically gave but i mean even by the 12th he was just dancing in a circle he was barely engaging at all now this is not quite that situation but what i mean to say is i have seen guys do well through 10 maybe even 11 rounds and then shit the bed in the 12th really, really badly.
Starting point is 01:08:05 And they want to say, well, who was winning the majority of the time they fought? I'm like, who gives a fuck, right? If you get dominated to the point where you are asking the ref to intervene so you can take a breather, you are punting on your chances in a close fight. You are punting. You are quitting. You're not quitting in the sense of I'm going to let you win to the point where you overwhelm me and I get stopped. But I'm not trying to win this at all anymore.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I'm merely trying to survive. And I give Frank Martin credit for finally turning him on and putting him in a position where he is. Again, if you're taking a knee like that, you are begging the ref to intervene on your behalf. Well, look, you know, there's nothing I hate more than Armenian on Armenian crimes here, Luke. So I think what Hartunian did, he was exhausted. He was hurt. And he strategically thought to himself, if I stay fire and I could get stopped. So I don't know if it was necessarily like I'm going to give up my chance of winning.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I think he was trying to be as strategic as possible within an absolute storm. I don't hold that against him. He fought over his head. He fought better than we thought he actually was fought over his head he fought better than we thought he actually was he may have actually fought better than he actually was it worked for some time it's got to work for the whole time though he wasn't able to get frank he wasn't able to hurt or get martin out of there and he certainly wasn't able to finish the finish the job fair enough let me clarify exactly what i mean by this i don't in any way i'm not one of these guys who's like, you took a knee, you're a quitter. I don't mean like I care about it like that. This is, this is fight sports. These are tough guys. They don't have to prove anything to me. knee if it means survival or no survival. But once you begin to take, once you take that knee, you have to know that whatever
Starting point is 01:09:48 chance that you slam that you might have had of winning is gone. You have to know. You have to know. You have to know that once you take that, you are punting, not merely on that round, but the round before it, since you're going to get a 10-8 in all likelihood. And now you are playing with a margin of error you no longer have. And that's what I mean to say. I don't think he's not a tough guy dude go look at what frank martin was doing to him frank martin was on him like white on rice he was getting rained on and had no umbrella fair
Starting point is 01:10:14 enough but you can't i mean not that he was protesting the the judge's scorecards but that's exactly my point once he took that knee he had to know it was over you were not going to get that fight back at that point especially as the B-side in Vegas. Forget about it. No, but I got to give him a lot of credit, Luke. I mean, you know, we can make the Edmund. He's tough as shit. We can make the Coach Edmund head movement joke,
Starting point is 01:10:33 but the head movement was a monster part of it. He also needed to be ballsy. He had good technique, good combination punching. I mean, if this was a tryout to show himself on this level, I got to see more Haratuni and he won that. But how about this, Luke? You and I both pitched after Frank Martin's breakthrough win over Rivera last year. You know what? Be a great opponent for Gervonta Tank Davis. Things have changed since then. Frank Martin arguably looked human at times in this fight
Starting point is 01:11:00 before he put it away. Gervonta Davis, according to social media, Luke, just got out of the can. What about doing this now? Do you think the somewhat humanizing performance would make him a more attractive, come-backing Gervonta post-prison opponent because of suddenly the questions right there? How much do you think that changes things? Well, dude, I don't see...
Starting point is 01:11:21 No, you know what? I know he's got a fight coming up, so we can't pull him. I'll tell you what will be a much more interesting fight for me. Now, you're asking a separate question, which is Tank is out of prison, and he needs an opponent to get right. Is Frank Martin that guy? To me, the answer is no, because I think a more interesting opponent
Starting point is 01:11:37 and a much more interesting fight would be something like Frank Martin versus Isak Cruz, Because Tank is not a... I mean, Tank does have slickness. He has head movement encounters. But he doesn't throw hardly any offense. In fact, Frank Martin is kind of similar in that way to Tank. And Haratounian was a little bit more obviously in his face. By the way, the reason that he took a knee
Starting point is 01:11:59 is because he thinks he has a very serious eye injury. I get it. I completely get it. I just mean to say, once you took that knee, the fight was over for you in terms of the judging. But BC, what do you think about that idea? Let's see what old Frank Martin can do against Isak Cruz. Can he solve a riddle like that, who is a brawler in every sense of the word?
Starting point is 01:12:18 But number one, you know as well as I do, tough as fucking balls. And number two, heavy-handed as well. that's a great fight to make i question if we'd see it next only because i'm sure both guys would want tank next and you know how badly isaac cruz has been campaigning for it and team tank at times they're like that's our probably our next opponent other times they're talking about haney and shakur which are much much harder fights to make the good news is if you like the idea of Pitbull or Frank Martin against Tank, it's easy to make. They're all on the same side of the street. But yeah, no, in terms of
Starting point is 01:12:50 finding out who's who in this division and the style contrast, I think Cruz versus Martin would be a heck of a fight. It will be interesting to see how aggressively, how quickly Tank is trying to, you know, match himself coming out of this and putting that chapter of his life behind him, Luke. I'm sure he got, you know, rightfully drunk on being in a fight that big against Ryan and then going out there against Garcia and winning it the way Tank did. I think it might come down to weight. I mean, Luke, it's like, you know, Tank did put in the rehydration clause, which kept Ryan honest from coming in too big and too rehydrated there.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Are you under the impression that tank stays at 35 for a while or do you think he follows the larger max exodus exodus of super young breakout talent who are all growing by the day and seem to all be going up to 40 when we're talking about teo and haney and shakur still at 135 but you get my point i think he could do 135 one more time by the way tank davis we all know from Mayweather McGregor and certainly other fights, has had his own. Not recently, but has had issues making weight in the past. So certainly, here's what I'll say, BC.
Starting point is 01:13:52 If he doesn't go to 140 next, he's got like one more maybe at 135. Something like that. Because you're right, there's so much. Before all the pull was at 135. Now all the pull has shifted to 140. He really doesn't have much of a choice in that sense. I mean, it does feel inevitable, inevitable that down the line, Tank will become a welterweight and get huge fights there, Luke.
Starting point is 01:14:13 But do we have any questions about his game as he would rise in weight? Now, he's already risen, like, you know, two or three divisions since he turned pro and carried the power up there with him. At 140, we've really only seen him against Mario Barrios, who he did stop late in a fun action fight do you think at 40 and even down the road at 47 that the power will still be a a counter punching threat that could get out that could get you out of there with one shot yes just not as quickly i mean he stopped barrios in what the 11th if memory serves yeah right took him that long and he was drilling him, too. And Barrios was coming forward on him.
Starting point is 01:14:47 So, like, the answer is yes. Yes. His power is formidable. I mean, truly, pound for pound, like, he's honestly one of the top punching threats in all of boxing in terms of pure raw power for their size. So, yes, I think he could. I just don't think it's going to come as easily uh like he's you know is he going to have leo santa cruz style ko's at 140 like probably not more like the barrios i think he's gonna have to be busier which was a problem for frank martin here in
Starting point is 01:15:19 different ways because i think he was out thought you know out moved and out thought at times but tank's gonna have to throw more punches in those divisions but back to our original point yeah I wonder if Team Tank watched that and said you know what we got this we got this that'd be a hell of a fight two southpaws Luke pay-per-view let's do it ghost Martin against Tank let's do it all right I want to remind everyone BC that's it for our top five but we're in the thick of summer and you might be looking for a wholesome convenient meals to support sunny, active days. Factor, America's number one ready-to-eat meal kit, can help you fuel up fast, BC, with flavorful and nutritious ready-to-eat meals
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Starting point is 01:18:42 there. I mean, did you try that cauliflower rice with the queso on it, Luke? No. Oh, man. I had one of the chickens with green beans. I think it was like a rosemary chicken. It was pretty good. Oh, dude, did you get those shakes that they send in, too?
Starting point is 01:18:56 I haven't used the shakes yet. Did you? Oh, hell yeah, dude. That's my thing. Oh, shit, okay. Okay. Wait, was that that monstrosity of outhouse juice you were drinking this morning? No, that's a different supplier, Luke. That's's a different customer because I was about to be deterred
Starting point is 01:19:09 okay BC it's time for the donks to ask us questions it's time for DMs from the old diggities you know we've had this animation since I think Trump was president I think it's time to cycle it through. All right, BC. Well, eventually Don Jr. is going to run.
Starting point is 01:19:29 We can just keep it around for that, Luke. Might as well. All right, from Cole underscore Brown 858. Any thoughts on former glory kickboxer Yusri Belgarui being set to compete on the Contender Series? I'm sorry. I cannot pronounce these names. I firmly apologize. He competed against Adesanya and Pareda in kickboxing
Starting point is 01:19:49 and now trains with Pareda. BC, do you have any thoughts on Yusri Belgarui? While I do not have history of watching him, and I'll be honest, I never heard of that name before, Luke, the idea of bringing someone in with kickboxing experience against those two and give, I don't know the age of this kickboxer, Luke. The idea of bringing someone in with kickboxing experience against those two and give, I don't know the age of this kickboxer, Luke, but if they could run him through the Dana White Contender
Starting point is 01:20:09 series, if he could do what Dana expects you to do to get the contract, which has come in, thrill. I like storylines. I like injecting this into the mix, Luke. I'd be interested in getting involved and doing the research and watching the tape.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Look, I'm going to tell you this. It's not that I didn't like the Dana White Contender series. If you actually watch it, it's entertainment. It's a very well done show. Like production-wise and all that across the board. That sizzle reel they played at the 290 pay-per-view, dude, it really woke me up
Starting point is 01:20:41 to like, yeah. I mean, when you're seeing how quickly this factory became the go i mean tough is just a glorified thing we're keeping around this is the factory that produces the next fighters and they just had the first champion in jamal hill and i say for better or worse if you've watched mai's management video in the past there could be some worse in the way this is set up but it's quicker than ever to go from spectacular win on Dana White Contender Series to a very, you know, to like a good name across from you, you know, in your first two or three UFC fights.
Starting point is 01:21:12 So, yeah, Luke, they're going to want to fast forward this. It worked out the first time bringing in a, but who did he, what was his record against these two? Do you know that? I do not know. I'll also say like, dude, Contender series can be as bad or as good as the ufc wants to make it so if they want to put like really interesting prospects on there and then be very selective about who they take i actually really like contender series but when
Starting point is 01:21:34 they have a bunch of fights of like meaningless quality and then just let everyone in it's like i don't know i don't know what i'm supposed to do with that so it's not like am i a four against contender series neither i'm a for it when it's used in a real selective way. When it's not, it's just an LFA card. It's just an LFA card. Okay, what about this? You don't tend to get into the poppin' circumstance, and any time we get closer to reality TV,
Starting point is 01:21:56 we get closer to skits and bits and planned bullshit. Would you like to see the process of Dana awarding them a contract or not rewarding them be more Simonon cowell be more reality tv tense music wait for i don't care about any of that stuff if they still let everyone in doesn't matter doesn't matter only if they marry that with being selective if they do it again and i want people to be cruel on camera just for fun but what i'm saying is if they're going to be genuinely selective about it,
Starting point is 01:22:26 sure, more of that I'm okay with. But just being like, well, you won, and you obviously suck ass, but fuck it, we need people on the roster because who are we going to fill that Apex card with on July 15th? You know, that kind of a thing. All right. From AOPW underscore figures. These are the gentlemen that made figurines of you and me
Starting point is 01:22:45 believe it or not yeah man uh he asks or they ask rather what in your opinion is the fight to make in the ufc that is currently not announced or scheduled both title and non-title this is easy it's francis and ganu versus john jones uh you could do that fight tomorrow there's nothing in any way stopping them when they made made Volk versus Yair, I remember me saying and you echoing it, this is one of the three or four best fights you can make in the entire sport right now. I think the name that we don't mention here
Starting point is 01:23:13 because of the fellatio accusations, Jed Meshew II, said that was his number one fight he wanted in the whole organization. Right now, what is the fight you want the most in the organization that is currently not being talked about or booked? Jon Jones versus Francis Ng ingano it could still be a ufc pay-per-view i get it you're right and i get it but he ain't coming back so not including that yeah not including that because he's not in the ufc right now luke so i'm talking about who i'm pretty pumped
Starting point is 01:23:39 i'm pretty pumped for izzy drichus but the answer's got to be volk islam too right exactly that's the answer right there i think that actually hits on a you know hardcore critical level but also in expectations for entertainment and the fallout of the stakes and all of that for sure that's got to be up there luke um uh what are we missing here i mean john jones pavlovich is very interesting if we can get to that point what i'm i'm thinkingat, but dude, Hamzat hasn't fought this year. He fought once last year, once the year before. Hamzat versus somebody really big, whether it's Bo Nickel or Adesanya, would get me jacked up. Dude, what the fuck are they doing with Hamzat?
Starting point is 01:24:16 Why is it? For example, let me ask you this way. I remember when McGregor was hot. I can go back and I can pull it up. Dude, he was active a lot. And remember, he fought Chet Mendez when he was all screwed up too, which we didn't know at the time and found out later, all that stuff. Dude, Hamzat was riding about as hot a streak as you could up until
Starting point is 01:24:36 and then certainly after the Gilbert Burns fight, and they just have not kept him active. Is he unable to fight in the States? What the fuck is the deal? I saw a picture he posted on Instagram where it looked like he had like a cast or something on his leg and some people are saying he can't travel the u.s luke is that true uh there is but there we don't we haven't had it confirmed right we don't know if he can't travel to the u.s but because he's got such ties with kadirov again whether you think those are forced or not and
Starting point is 01:25:02 again there's no way to know but whatever he is close with kadirov by virtue of being chechen that he might be entangled with him from a business perspective and unable to now enter the united states we don't know that but that has certainly been believed long island luke says they're saving him for october abu dhabi who's the okay announce an announce an opponent well i think they're waiting for the next francis the next time francis makes news luke they're waiting to just dunk on top of that with this announcement probably but um who's it going to be against luke thomas who is it middleweight against two costa who do you got what's going on here uh so you've got well i mean here's what you could do you've got coming up at 291 don't you have alice skarov taking on costa you could get the winner of that right it's true but but
Starting point is 01:25:42 he yeah yeah i guess alice skaroff would be a rematch and then costa would just be bananas so how about usman at a catchweight it is big it would feel big i don't love it i don't hate it it's not my favorite choice but i don't hate it i don't hate it but it's really fucking weird what's going on with him it's like dude you this is a guy who should be active as shit right now yeah and i And I'm going to, you know, you're going to throw tomatoes at me, but can we get Rose versus Whaley three to satisfy me, Luke, in my strawweight dreams? I mean, look, that's the fight to crown the greatest straw involved.
Starting point is 01:26:13 I know Rose moved up in weight, and they don't want that right now, but that's what I want. I don't know how to answer this one because I'm not sure what the issue is, but question number three, he writes, Big Daddy Roundtree, what is y'all's best advice for dealing with a four-month-old daughter? Thanks for the weekly content, you sickening shitbags. Luke, you are a hashtag girl dad like the late Kobe RIP, Luke, so do you have advice? I mean, what is his instance at four months not sleeping through the night, like all that?
Starting point is 01:26:44 You're guessing? Yeah, I'm trying to remember at four months what violetta was doing um you know uh at the uh her cutest at a baby was six months that was peak cuteness yeah i'm not sure what to tell you dude like you're not gonna sleep and um here's the one thing i think he probably has fucked up he probably didn't sleep train the kid effectively so usually what you see is my parents, if they're past the three month mark and they're still like, oh my God, this kid is kicking my ass. It's like you didn't sleep train them, right? Because you're supposed to be by 12 weeks. So three months, you're supposed to be having them in a rhythm. I realize that there
Starting point is 01:27:17 are subsequent sleep regressions that undo a lot of the progress, but you should be at a state where they're sleeping 12 hours a night or 11 and whatever the breakup is if they have a nap by the time you get there. It sounds like he didn't do that, in which case it's never too late to start, but you need to sleep train them. I don't know what he's complaining about to tell him about a four-month-old daughter because that four-month-old daughter and four-month-old son, there's not a dramatic difference between them at that point, right? You used the word rhythm, Luke.
Starting point is 01:27:46 If Big Daddy Rountree would have used the rhythm method, he would, you know. He would probably have another kid because the rhythm method is utterly unreliable as a form of contraception. First of all, Big Daddy Rountree, congratulations. Bite down. You know, I had twins, Luke. So they always say that's two years of hell. It's really three.
Starting point is 01:28:03 But it's great. But it's also great you'll get through it you'll sleep again you're probably drinking more energy drinks and vaping right now so yeah hey you're luke thomas this season of your life congratulations again i'm happy to help but i have no idea on what level he's complaining about like about food uh about teething about you know games to play with them i don't know what you want me to say you know okay uh all right from mt booble well it sounds sounds like my fucking timeline muay thai and boobs on the weekend all right top three non-athletes you'd like to have on rsd top three non-athletes i think we see
Starting point is 01:28:39 god do they have to be mma i'm so sick of of MMA people could they be someone not in MMA I know he also had it like Hulk Hogan had his own n-word debacle which really makes me pause in saying this but I've always been intrigued by dog the bounty hunter Luke if we can get him on the RSD couch that'd be fantastic no interest less than zero interest whatsoever all right give me a name a non-athlete celebrity known person that you would just think would be perfect for this i mean many musicians right many musicians i'd be into but um i'll tell you like what about getting a very high level successful creator from youtube so like an mkbhd or a mr beast something like that keith lee how about that luke keith lee wouldn't be a bad one but about also like where would you put schwarzenegger at this point because i know he was yeah so i guess the
Starting point is 01:29:30 answer would be arnold he'd be up there he'd definitely be up there no question about it what you okay you can pick one musician who's alive what would you pick we can't say brock lesnar is he considered an athlete still yeah he still is yeah all right i mean brock lesnar would be a would be a dream that would be a dream um musician uh god i mean i could go a million ways luke anyone's still alive i mean i can go yeah i don't ah i don't know what would what the go-to in this case would be most of my favorite musicians are dead luke unfortunately so it's not you know what i'm saying uh yeah what did cat stevens change his name to? Yusuf Islam, something like that? Yeah, Yusuf something like that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:11 I'm trying to think. So Schwarzenegger would be one. If Carl Sagan were still alive, he'd be one. I read almost all of his books when I was a kid. Rocco? Carl Sagan, he was an astrophysicist yeah yeah i know what he is i'm talking about rocco is he on your list so freddy yeah yeah dude i can't stand these fucking guys who just breathe through their teeth yeah that guy's gross fucking so gross like fucking stop breathing
Starting point is 01:30:39 through your teeth you sick fuck um come on think of somebody awesome luke who are we not saying there's a go-to out there gotta be a woman right we don't talk to enough of them does she have to be latina luke no no certainly not certainly not all right i don't know i don't know i mean is that still a show luke is our room service diary still a thing i don't know i don't know yeah that's a great question i don't know how to answer that one i I'm glad you asked. I don't know. I hope to have answers soon. I've been hoping for a while. I don't know. Alright, last but not least here,
Starting point is 01:31:12 BC, from Volley Jerry. Congrats on opening Factory Town MMA. Who does MK hire for striking BJJ wrestling and strength and conditioning? Oh, yeah. Luckily, everyone is suddenly a free agent, so pick any coaches from any camps around the world. Factory Townhart is the new got that dog in him.
Starting point is 01:31:30 He got that Factory Townhart. I mean, Lionheart Anthony Smith will be a player coach. He'll be our first hire, right, Luke? Yeah, Luke Nesita says Ray Longo. I mean, I don't know how you pick anyone but Ray Longo. Ray Longo, Phil DeRue. By the way, Ray Longo sent me a really, really sweet text after our – speaking of RSD, that might have been our best room service diaries
Starting point is 01:31:50 we ever did with Coach Longo. And he looked – seemed genuinely, you know, touched by the outcry of the MK fan base to embrace him after that. Well, they – he's hard to dislike. Unlike you and me, and especially me, he's's hard to dislike unlike you and me and especially me he's actually hard to dislike um do we get craig jones luke or do we have oh that's a great choice yes yes craig jones what a great choice great so phil ray craig jones i might throw in a kieran fitzgibbons in there as well he's great dean thomas is pretty great uh coach no no no not him uh dean thomas will be part of factory town mma what about well dude i mean can we just poach mike thomas
Starting point is 01:32:30 brown too i mean he might be the best coach in the game can we make him the head coach him and ray longo the two lead coaches look oh how about just for interviews we get eric alberacine agreed mike he's asking about daru yeah i already said daru already said daru for sure him he's an easy one to go to you know he loves that sled thing that that he has that thing that makes people throw up luke the prowler sled yeah yeah yeah oh and then luke nocita's like what about joshua fabia as like a spiritual advisor and i'm like yes he could be our weapons advisor yeah remember he was you see bj penn said cte wasn't real and also that in 2050 we're going to be teleported back to the year 1850 and that dinosaurs were fake?
Starting point is 01:33:11 Dude, you know what fixes CTE... Good thing he ran for governor, you know? Do you know what fixes CTE? Look, nicotine patches. Does it? I don't know. Some comedians are always putting them in there thinking that... Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were being genuine. You were just doing you were just doing no that's where i heard it isn't that why it isn't that's why i heard it on on uh i have no clue i have no clue what the fuck that shit does i've i've been tempted you ever tried a nicotine patch i've never tried one i've never tried one but i see them at the 7-eleven and i'm always talking about bandits look i used to put bandits in there but well bandits are just for children i mean that's not i don't like you know who wants to swallow that shit you can't you can't you can't do that you dude if you swallow once you never come back from that
Starting point is 01:33:56 that that one dude i had drone instructors who swallowed it who swallowed tobacco juice every time they used it all day long while running all day long yes you hung around gross americans i remember that but look you know that the worst what is the most violent puke you can have the oh shit the first time i swallowed tobacco juice i'm 18 years old and now i'm laying down on the middle of the road trying to like pull up energy to stand up again i mean yeah that's uh yeah that'll do it to you that'll do it to you. That'll do it to you. But I had... Dude, those fuckers were... Those dudes at boot camp,
Starting point is 01:34:27 they were hard, dude. They were tough. They were. They're tough as shit, Luke. Speaking of shit, Luke, you know what I did yesterday? Let's see your feces. Yeah, I scoured the globe
Starting point is 01:34:36 for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, the in-between, and the worlds of combat sports and beyond. And by beyond, Luke, I mean both elder and young abuse coming at you. This one's called Have You Seen This Shit?
Starting point is 01:34:59 Did we play the new intro? I couldn't hear it. I couldn't hear it. It was broken in my ear. I couldn't hear it. Did we? Probably not. Oh, we did. We did right nicely done we got to figure out that guy's name who made that all right yeah we just stole it from him we didn't even sign any paperwork yeah eventually he'll turn on us like all of our biggest fans do uh luke ufc fight night
Starting point is 01:35:17 at the damn apex kicks it off here's how it started for norma dumont and Chelsea Chandler. Let's go to the weigh-in. Stay in the face of loose effing pussy. Okay. All right. This is my kind of content. And Luke, how it started. Here's how it's going for Chandler. We met, we mentioned it.
Starting point is 01:35:42 It worked out for her, so I can't clown it. But once she tasted that power, she was out of there. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing about getting upset with that. I get why she is defensive in that, hey, it worked for me. I was getting drilled, and I found a place to go and recover, but you also just got to have some self-awareness. I've been watching MMA fights for, you know, first time I saw MMA was back when it was nhb in 1994 yeah like i don't think i've seen that particularly that kind of like a linear just getting the fuck out of here like thing ever in an mma fight back then people be like luke what's your weekend plans
Starting point is 01:36:15 in 94 you're like nhb and ghb i mean that's a real american 14 brian campbell all right uh luke i will say that uh over him ran like that against Miocic, and then he tapped him out, like, right after that. Remember? I don't think he ran quite like that. Alistair felt it, Luke. Let's go over to Eileen Perez. She was in the curtain jerker winning for my OK Bet streak this week, Luke.
Starting point is 01:36:40 But then she did the victory booty dance heard round the world. Right at your boy, DC and Fabio Busce, Luke. You know, that's definitely not the first time she's done that. Well, Luke, there was video that I didn't grab in time of her doing that in the casino a couple hours after the fight, but she also did it in the locker room with her opponent afterwards. Here's her and Ashley Evans Smith getting after it. Okay, that's a lot.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Well, look, we go from ass shaking good times to catastrophic injury. Here's women's strawweight Estella Nunes. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Yeah, that's pretty fucking gross. That's the wow. Oh, gosh. Yeah, that's pretty fucking gross. That's the, wow. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll tumble for you.
Starting point is 01:37:30 That's, you know, she did catch her own fall, Luke, but wow. You got to work on those break falls, kids. Don't post your hands. Indeed. Hey, you want to see the counter punch of the week, Luke? Sure. All right, let's go to the practice session. We'll slow it down for you so you can see it coming.
Starting point is 01:37:48 So you got a duck under the right hand, right? Mm-hmm. Gonna get drilled to the body. Oh, this shot's perfect. Watch this. Super slow motion what are we at the Mayweather McGregor way in I'm not even laughing at how fucking stupid this video is. I'm laughing at your reaction that we're at the. Did he?
Starting point is 01:38:35 My man had a frozen steak in his dungarees. That's a hell of a counter shot, Luke. It's called the crotch counter. Let's go over to my favorite thing, Luke. Combat sports stars in the wild. All right. This is Oleksandr Usyk in his face-off to announce his mandatory title defense against Daniel Dubois. Listen in.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yep. What do you think of his freestyle there, Luke? Never give him a microphone again. Okay, all right. We got more stars caught in the wild. Here bow nickel still wearing his venom fight kit a couple hours after his ufc 290 win hooping it up now was this pre or post taking photos with trump i don't know that was a big scandal in the timeline that was a big scandal it certainly was uh He's a little rickety with the movements, but it worked. The shot went in. I mean, he fought for, what, 38 seconds?
Starting point is 01:39:48 He had more time to kill. You know what I mean? Let's go to the ESPYs after party at ESPN. Here's Jon Jones, Volkanovski, and Leon Edwards getting down and dirty. How do you feel about John's drink? Serious question. So many goats there um you know it is what it is i don't love it luke but he doesn't seem like he wants to change so he's gonna like i'm not one of these guys who like oh i know what's best for him and he shouldn't be drinking there i don't know what's best for him i have no clue but i do sort
Starting point is 01:40:41 of see this stuff and i'm like i hope he he can stay out of trouble because he doesn't always. Yeah. Unfortunately, I'm not surprised by where he's still at because I remember after like the second major scandal he had involving drugs, I interviewed him at ESPN and was like, okay, so now that you've got,
Starting point is 01:40:58 you know, gone through a couple of things that could have completely derailed you. Like what type of changes are you making? I remember him telling me like, you know, I'm still going to the club with all my boys i'm just i'm just you know i'm just not doing drugs anymore i'm like you're still going to clubs like that's and again i want to say one more time remember he got arrested in the middle of the pandemic for just shooting off guns and abandoned downtown albuquerque yeah like he had a requerto bottle in his fucking car it's like i'm not it sounds like i'm like oh here's this great moment between like they're making fun of volkanovski for like
Starting point is 01:41:28 basically shadow boxing yeah you didn't let us have the spirit of the moment was him yeah i did not i did not i completely interrupted the spirit of the moment how can you look at a guy who's had multiple issues with drinking alcohol getting into like pretty significant trouble and then just be like oh here he is again drinking i guess like don't know. It's a little weird if you ask me. He was very happy, Luke. Jamal Murray also shouted him out during his comeback player of the year acceptance speech saying it very well could have been John. Let's go over to Brandon Moreno, Luke.
Starting point is 01:41:56 He made his pro wrestling debut in Mexico at Triple Mania. That's Moreno on the left. Tell me what you think of this. I think it's dumb as shit. He's not going to take that lightly. Oh, God. Already better than Tyson Fury and Cain Velasquez.
Starting point is 01:42:20 That's not saying much. I thought Cain was pretty good. Actually, Cain physically could do the moves very well. Yes, yes. He couldn't talk at all. But he's got the personality of a turnip, right? That was the issue. Absolutely, right.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Right, absolutely. Tyson Fury was just awful. He was awful. See, that's surprising because Tyson Fury has a big personality. I'm surprised he sucks so much. I mean, he could talk, yeah, but he was so comically bad in the movements. Speaking of Vol volk did you know he joined adesanya for a little bit of matt rowland no not with john dupont luke with adzok
Starting point is 01:42:51 here's the pictures to prove it yeah it's pretty disappointing to see this but what are you gonna do so your boy bo nickel took the trump picture and now these two are hanging out with your one of your other uh disliked billionaires luke i mean what do you think about abs at zuck's abs though he's getting after it right he must have a good chemist all right well luke they didn't just roll around your ckb boys also went out on the high seas with zuck this is adesanya showing us off here there, there are no consequences at all for rich people in this world. Nothing. Doesn't matter what you've done. Okay, well, hold on.
Starting point is 01:43:31 You're lumping Zuck into Kadyrov territory when we showed... No, no, no. I'm not saying he should be like... Well, dude, Kadyrov is like, you know... I mean, we're talking about a warlord of the worst variety. I don't think that. But the record is clear. Just Google Rohingya muslims
Starting point is 01:43:47 and facebook in 2016 2017 uh the only way to get internet for a huge portion of people in myanmar was to use a zuckerberg either basically it was facebook was firstly through a company called internet.org but then facebook was the only way to get it they were expressly warned they only had two native speakers speakers of the language that people were using at the time, and they were expressly warned that there were a ton of people fostering serious
Starting point is 01:44:12 anti-Rohingya Muslim rhetoric throughout the course of the country on their services. They didn't do fuck all about it. They refused to do anything about it. And then, of course, there were atrocities left and right massive displacement of people and this was one of the primary tools of communication during that time in that country was facebook now later on mark zuckerberg went and i think tried to make
Starting point is 01:44:34 amends for it but they were expressly warned about it did nothing about it and it caused a lot of problems so my only point being is like does he belong in jail no that's not what i'm saying but like just inviting him into the circle of friendship it's like dude this guy should be like you shouldn't even like in any way have any social relationship with him but you know people don't give a fuck what i think these are your heroes luke i'm just bringing enjoy yeah i guess yes enjoy the enjoy the boat but don't ever meet your heroes luke because we're on a boat baby and we are living it up look what if what if elon suddenly started liking this show and he's like hey you guys want to come out on the boat so i've never said this so i've never said this no one elon famous has ever messaged me
Starting point is 01:45:15 but i've had including in the last year i've had very famous people message me who i thought were fucking dirt bags and never replied. Okay, name one. I cannot. To you off the show, I will do that. I will happily do it. I'll even show it to you. I don't mind. But this idea that because they're famous and they're rich.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Was it a comedian? One of them was. One of them wasn't. Well, actually, no, that's not true. That's not true. Was that comedian featured in Rolling Stone by any chance, Luke? No. No, no, no no no no no no no i know you're talking about i wish i wish i could have fucking blocked but no no what i'm trying to make is like this idea that like oh well they're now in your orbit and they want to get to know you it's like i don't want to get to know them like you can keep them
Starting point is 01:46:02 over there like social ostracism is the least they deserve this is fun for me to watch luke these guys are just like i can't wait to see who is he befriends next luke and see you have to deal with it all right yeah that's basically my life is uh not a thing i say matters to a single soul so there you go it does luke to me it does uh let's go back to craig coach craig jones. Luke, he was in Vegas for 13 straight days. Let's hear how it went. Fresh off of, man, I don't know how long. Honestly, I think it was 13 days in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:46:35 13 days of nothing but nose beers, debauchery, a little bit of training. But yeah, mostly some debauchery that we can never speak about publicly now there's a man i could get to know i mean he's just like outwardly living on the edge luke you know he doesn't he don't care it's great he's just wow okay uh let's cool off a little bit it is it is summertime out there luke let's cool off with some ice cream so good you have to hear it to believe it. Actually, I want a chocolate. Oh.
Starting point is 01:47:16 What the fuck? Right in the ear hole, Luke. Right in the old ear hole. Play that again. I don't know why. She's just like, yeah, I don't want chocolate. Yo, fuck my co-worker. Also, I can hear myself, guys. Thank you. Yeah, the echo echo.
Starting point is 01:47:41 It's time for your haircut of the week. Let's keep the shit moving. You know what? That's doing a lot of work that I don't think the hair needs to do. But I think it's versatile. You know what I mean? It is versatile. It is versatile.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Yes, it is versatile. It's a built-in visor. It seems military friendly. I'm down for that. You know what? Maybe i was too harsh up front now that you have positioned it in that way i you might be right bc hey we got utility you know let's have a wholesome moment here we don't need zuck and izzy on a on a ski do luke let's see alexandre pantoja bringing the belt back to ATT, Coconut Creek, Florida.
Starting point is 01:48:30 That was great. I don't know if the fans can hear the explosion. There's Brazilian track, Luke. There's the Dan Lambert. I'm awesome. Champ, so happy for you. The best. The best. The best. The best.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Hey, first round closed, bro. First round closed. big baby face turn for Pantoja Luke one of the more likable fighters out of nowhere right what a story yeah what a crazy story happy for him that he got this opportunity man how many fighters go through their career and they never get to do this and they're and like again what's the difference between Pantoja and Moreno not much right not much not a huge gap between them i know moreno got to go back to his gym and all that kind of stuff i'm just saying imagine a different scenario where a guy comes up this short and doesn't have this moment like you get robbed it's like this these these situations are either feast or famine almost quite literally you know and so
Starting point is 01:49:41 uh i'm really happy for aless Pantoja. Hardworking guy. Hard to say anything but great things about him. Good for him, man. Really glad he got that. New segment alert inside the shit this week, Luke. This is called White People of the Week. Let's go out to your July 4th fireworks. Well, I mean, they did take...
Starting point is 01:50:02 Oh, fuck! Oh, fuck! Dude dude what the fuck is that dude that thing came in like a fucking laser in the face luke directly in the face right there i don't know if he ever recovered or saw again you know what my man in the 46 jersey he knew what was up he knew what time it was oh yeah uh if you want white people being this dangerous let's go over to the wasp nest that we all have in the corner of our is this some dumb ass who did the glass of gasoline thing uh you'll have to watch luke guy's white though i'll tell you that yep sure did oh you dumb fuck oh no he didn't you dumb fuck you stupid man you stupid stupid man
Starting point is 01:50:46 look at the first of all look at the sausages on this man's hands can he give me a prostate check look you think wow dude yo your butthole would never be the same after that my man is just sitting here holding wasps dude look at this oh what the fuck what the fuck what what the fuck dude i don't want to hear one more complaint about insulting white people on the show ever again ever again not one i just turned into bururt Chrysler. Yeah, that's great. Save your fucking complaints for another show. Show me that again. Show me this honky one more time, please.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Come on, that's somebody's dad. How to get rid of yellow jet. Dude, dude, look at the fingers on this man. You think he's turned a wrench before? I mean, he's got fingers that could crush you. Great grip strength this guy's got. But wow. I mean, there's probably some protein in that though right luke so first i'm like these hands are just gonna get you know stung to shit yeah he can't feel it don't worry he can't and then he just looks at you with a
Starting point is 01:51:57 dead-eyed look and goes yup i'm gonna eat that look at me look at me son i was there january 6 suck a dick well if you thought that white person was great luke let's go to the gas station was he trapped was he trapped at guantanamo bay getting forced rectal feeding why was he unable to cut his dude i'll tell you what let me tell you something here's a little white people hack. There's nothing wrong with wearing sandals, but any white person who's got the strap over the toes and then the strap around the ankles, 100% hasn't showered that day.
Starting point is 01:52:37 100% hasn't showered that day. Oh, my God. That was not taken from our documentary number six, Luke, when they showed a flash of my feet. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. If you wear, like, Teva sandals and shit, it's a guarantee that when you get up in the morning,
Starting point is 01:52:52 you brush your teeth too late. Too late in the day. You know what I'm saying? Luke, our final white person. The only worse than an influencer these days is a wannabe influencer. Luke, let's check in on this white guy. Actually, this is kind of me circa 20 years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Yep. Yep. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Well, Luke, you know this shit is normally inappropriate, but sometimes this inappropriateness comes from the UFC itself. Luke, here's Drikus Duplassie getting up from the corner against Robert Whitaker after round one and yeah the old ball tap there that's how this is how bc greets me coach getting a little uh
Starting point is 01:53:32 a little let me grab the horn on the way out was that the difference in the fight you think can't say no okay can't say no all right well luke uh Luke, you know, RIP Kobe, but this brings new meaning to- Dude, I just can't get over the dude eating the fucking wasps. I really am having a hard time processing that. How about the dude eating ass in the octagon, Luke? This brings new meaning to Kobe. Tell me how my ass tastes. What sport do we cover, Luke?
Starting point is 01:54:03 And also, the dude whose ass is getting um eaten i think he won i think the uh ulan bakov guy got screwed on this one twice twice i was gonna say yeah he already got screwed once uh our ko of the week comes from russia in a ufc tough spinoff type show, but watch this. What is this, Russian? Yeah, it's like the Ultimate Fighter, I'm led to believe, but not UFC. Someone's about to get punched, right? Yeah. Yay! Look at that!
Starting point is 01:54:40 Dude, Russians in MMA don't do anything other than punch each other when they're not supposed to. Yeah. Like, I've just, dude, honestly, if you were in charge of, like, a Russian promotion and you were on the PR side and your job was like, okay, we have to stage, like, we have to get the step and repeats for all the pictures. We have to have the media here. We have to have face-offs. Like, you have to plan around, okay, this guy's going to punch this guy in the face. This guy's going to come out of nowhere and, like, run, jump across okay this guy's gonna punch this guy in the face this guy's gonna come out of nowhere and like run jump across he's gonna punch that guy you have to plan around it right that's just what they do yeah that's what they do luke uh you
Starting point is 01:55:14 ever watch a ufc pay-per-view at a bar long time ago people go from zero to cage fighter real quick luke check out this skirmish where is this bw3s oh got the chair didn't pick up the chair to start swinging i don't know what i don't even understand what's happening oh there we go oh yeah oh wow chairs yeah boston yeah i bet that guy has never said the n word with anything other than a hard r which you can do in the ufc which apparently you can do yes uh luke elder abuse is never complete without a little bit of kid carnage to balance it out so let's first go the old route call this fast furious and elder this will be uh vin diesel by the time they get to chapter 15 in the series wow yeah help i'm falling
Starting point is 01:56:13 yeah i can't get up so that's the old way of do it let's prepare the juniors for the future luke here's a little little backyard manslaughter for you. Dude, what the fuck? Sibling rivalry indeed. Yes, wow, wow. Dude, she was like, you're going to have tea time with daddy? No, bitch. No.
Starting point is 01:56:39 You're going to fucking. Dude, Tukes would not think twice about doing that to your second child. Not even. You know what? You're probably right. You're probably right. Hey, Luke, you remember MK superfan Christian Deguero from California? Amateur MMA fighter.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Where's MK on the crotch? He's coming back to the cage, by the way. August 5th in a title fight. My birthday. That's my birthday. Oh, shit. Here's his call out of his next opponent after his last fight. Let's go back and listen. Your word for your next opponent.
Starting point is 01:57:08 We're the belt. God, you won your fight tonight. Congratulations. But you really won yourself an ass whooping, August. So I'll see you August 10th. That's right, fight fans. Take some noise. Luke, he said what you really want is an ass whooping.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Okay? Dude, Christian DeGiro is my hero, okay? That's what I'm talking about right there. I can't believe we haven't sponsored him. Did you see our logo on his dong right there? That guy's the best. Damn. All right.
Starting point is 01:57:39 God bless him. God bless him. Hey, it's time to play Rate That Tag. Get fired up. Hey, what about this Mario-inspired tattoo sleeve, Luke? Give it to me for real here. So this is what you would call... What do you think?
Starting point is 01:58:00 Eight out of ten? It's hard to tell exactly because this is not a newer tattoo. I'd say in general it's good. It's hard to tell whether it's great because some of the shading looks off. Okay. And some of the coloring doesn't look properly saturated. Some of it looks fantastic. Some of it does look very saturated. Some of it looks fantastic. The red.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Some of it does look very good. Some of it does look very good. So, yeah, I would say maybe 7.5. Okay, well, rate this next one. Joe Rogan put this on his IG. It's from the artist Jim LeClerc. This thing is whoa. Whoa, Luke.
Starting point is 01:58:38 That's a 10. That's a 10. That's not a kind of tattoo I want, but in terms of tattoo quality, they're not going to come much better than this. This is extremely high level. 10 out of 10. UFC superfan and Vegas Raiders defensive end Max Crosby, double X. Max Luke got a new tat.
Starting point is 01:58:58 Your thoughts? um there's a little there's a kobe on the on the midriff there there's yeah i don't i don't like it at all from a theme standpoint it's not poorly done in that way but it's kind of a mess it's two on top of each other um yeah i don't love it i don't know i'm not gonna sit here and say it's like improperly done as a tattoo that's not quite what i mean but i don't really like it well luke our mk fans told us they want more chuck mindenhall so i went down to the local carnival in the bumper cars luke to pick up this video at chuck watch this dude chuck getting busy out here oh he got fucking lifted out of the bitch what dude this that thing blew him out of his shoes and socks look at that damn that's a head-on collision right there
Starting point is 02:00:00 oh take that chuck eat a dick old man, that's what I'm talking about. All right, it's time for this week in Conor McGregor. Luke McGregor improved to 0-7 as a coach on Tuff, which led to this exchange between him and UFC Brass. Let's look back. What happens if it's a clean sweep? We see if anybody wants to go over to the other team. He came over to me and asked me, you know, what happens if it's a clean sweep we see if anybody wants to go over to the other team he came over to me and asked me you know what happens if his team loses every quarter final
Starting point is 02:00:31 fight and i said honestly i don't know it's crazy because it's never happened in 30 seasons of the ultimate fight well luke as always connor making history i mean does he even care i mean i realize he cares a little bit but does he even really care also that hasbulla shirt that dana is wearing is the first hasbulla siding i've seen in probably three months not counting ray flores's timeline i was just gonna say that luke well done well done right there well look you think connor cares about going 0-7 and tough or fighting Chandler? Let's go to his Instagram from over the weekend. It was time to head to the beach with the family, Luke, and Conor was feeling Mayweather way in vibes all over again here.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Yeah. Doing the old banana hammock, huh? Yeah. I mean, the wife and kids were there luke which was nice to see but connor's just out here my modeling that hog for the uh yeah wow uh i believe there's a picture we can cut to to end this uh i'll tell you what if i was as rich as connor i mean what are we doing so i'm so uninterested in mcgregor's hog i mean get the shit the fuck out of my face but um i will say that i will say this i mean this is a great show i had to watch holly
Starting point is 02:01:52 homemade events and now mcgregor's hog i mean yeah what are you doing here cbs but um yeah what i was gonna say was if you're as rich as him why are you going to a beach with no waves like i was the columb, like, don't tell any Colombian people I ever said this, but their beaches fucking suck. They're not good, right? You have to go to the private ones bare minimum. You can't even go to the public ones. And even then, there's no fucking waves hardly at any of these things.
Starting point is 02:02:17 And the beach is all rocky. Do you think he packed the no spears, Luke? Huh? Do you think he packed the no spears for this trip, Luke? Does he really need to? I'm sure he's got hookups wherever he goes. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:29 I just didn't know if he did that with a family like that, Luke. I don't know. I'm not trying to get that deep into his personal life beyond his hog. Just taking a look at his dick. Well, it brings the light in. Who are you? Are you SADA tester? I need to see your dick, sir.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Luke, hashtag sweatpants sausage alert, okay? You hear that, Luke? Let's go to this guy. Okay, my friend, who are you trying to fool? Please be serious. Is that a Moneyline Hammer of the Month trophy in your pants, or are you just happy to see us, sir? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:03:11 Throw it one more time. This guy either has the saggiest biggest balls yeah it's not real sir and we know it's not like please like this dude this dude literally went out and then just stuffed a dick in his pants and was like well hashtag sweatpants sausage took us out to the bar luke you know they still have people that smoke outside some of them are well endowed luke dude my man is just out here with an erection and like look at the weather it's like he's got a sweater on like it's kind of chilly outside and he's just like nope dick hard cigarette lit living, bro. They may have had Mayweather and McGregor on the big screen weigh-ins, dude. You never know. But finally, Luke, we got one more for you.
Starting point is 02:03:52 I just want to point out something. I just want to point out something. I text you on occasion. I didn't yesterday. But sometimes on Sundays, I'll text you for conversational purposes. And I usually don't get a response until like way later or something you're usually too busy I just want to point out you spent your day yesterday
Starting point is 02:04:10 looking at absurd amounts of dicks just like rifling through pictures and videos of other men's cocks for the job for the segment yeah not texting with me but being like I just I can't I don't have time for look I gotta I really gotta look at this man's hog.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Unfortunately, Luke, it's what the people want. You know what I mean? So let's close with this, Luke. You know what my favorite line in Forrest Gump was? She tastes like cigarettes. Okay. I hate that taste it's disgusting like seriously right it's the worst but he's he's the one doing that right yeah because it's because you know she had palm walls on her breath oh that's all that actually happened to me that this happened to me in college but the roles were
Starting point is 02:05:02 reversed yeah yeah i've i've seen that before naked too luke i've been a part of those transactions too it's always messy yeah yeah those are never fun because once the cleanup is done you're like yeah i think i'm gonna go yeah yeah it's probably a good idea or i think i'll just go now and we'll never speak again to each other so thank you for your service yeah that's all i got luke i don't know if we're still employed but this has been the best two hours of the week i gotta say to say, the shit was good this week. It was really good. I really appreciate that.
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Starting point is 02:06:20 I just want to say, look, this week's a little light in the britches in terms of big combat events, but let me remind you what's coming around the corner. Two Saturdays from now is Spence Crawford, UFC 291, and the BMF rematch, or BMF 2.0, and maybe, Luke, maybe even a light heavyweight title on the line when Jan and Poiton meet more on that this week. Also, Bellator Rizin supercard and four days before that Tuesday morning how about Stephen Fulton Jr. taking on Niowa Inoue for two of four world titles at 122 pounds and maybe the number one
Starting point is 02:07:00 pound for pound spot in the sport at stake until spence and crawford fight dude seriously like the next couple weeks leading into you know what should be a fun august it's going to get hot and heavy again i mean look that's my birthday by the way tuesday next tuesday 45 uh what a birthday gift for me to unwrap a new way versus fulton that morning live mk reaction on my birthday right after because that's what that, that's my life. This is my passion, Luke. This is, you know, this is the, this is the things I care about. Thank you. Yeah. August 5th.
Starting point is 02:07:30 I'm not going to work that day. So I'm going to take that off. Yeah. I'm talking about July 25th, Luke. Okay. I'll show you how, but there's, but remember San Hagen, I think fights a number of good made off on August 5th. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Well, would it be MK unless you took the whole summer off Luke, right? I mean, I take less days than you. I take less days than Mikey and you. I just want to point that out. So you can suck a dick. How about that? There's plenty of you to choose from.
Starting point is 02:07:54 We could show receipts. Yeah, Mikey chimes in. He says lies. Mikey's like lies. Mikey's on. I mean, God bless Mikey. He works his fingers to the bone. But Mikey, it's like every Friday, it's like, yeah, I'm in Orlando this Friday.
Starting point is 02:08:04 And the next Friday, yeah, I'm in Connecticut this Friday. Like, he doesn't take as long, like, in terms of, like, one to five days. But, like, every other Friday, my man is just jet-setting like a player. Don't hate the player, Luke. Hate the game. Okay? That's true. That's fair.
Starting point is 02:08:19 That's fair. We like Mikey. Okay, thanks to Mikey in particular from CBS Sports. Thanks, of course, to Malka and Showtime and all of you for joining us on this Monday where we talk about fights and look at male genitalia. That's really what MK is at its core principally about. That is Brian Campbell. I'm with Thomas. I think we're done here, maybe permanently. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:08:38 If not, we'll see you Wednesday. And until then, may all of your gains be loyal.

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