MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Canelo Alvarez | UFC 268 Recap: Usman, Namajunas, Gaethje | Bellator 270 | EP 226

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

On episode 226 of Morning Kombat the boys are back to recap a packed weekend of combat sports. The guys start off by discussing Canelo Alvarez's win over Caleb Plant. Where does Canelo's resume sit among all-time greats? Next up the guys break down UFC 268. Did Colby Covington have a case for a win? What's next for Rose Namajunas? Did Justin Gaethje become the number one contender? The guys close out the main topics with a Bellator 270 recap. (10:25) - Canelo Alvarez (27:45) - Kamaru Usman vs. Colby Covington 2 (48:20) - Rose Namajunas vs. Weili Zhang 2 (57:05) - Justin Gaethje vs. Michael Chandler (66:30) - Bellator 270 Recap Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Reveley, reveley, dogs. Look at us now, tip to tip. We're just two old goats, but we're here to keep eating trash in your yard. I don't even know what that means, really. But here we are on this Monday, the 8th of November, 2021. My name is Luke Thomas. I join you live right now in the capital of Los Estados Unidos here in Washington, D.C. I am joined by my hetero life mate, partner in crime, fellow washed dad, fellow Washington, D.C. traveler, although his situation was much worse than mine. It is my friend and yours, fresh off the morning bird when he had no bags, no toiletries, no nothing. It's Brian Campbell. Brian, how did it feel to brush your teeth this morning at 11 a.m.?

Because I know you didn't do it at 6. Oh, my God. You don't want to know you don't want to know about my uber eats experience at 12 15 last night when the only place within distance was mcdonald's i mean what a time to get back from a 10 now make it 11 day las vegas road trip happy to be back in ct where i am the crown clown prince, excuse me, of Connecticut, after yielding my title. But, Luke, what a freaking week we had for the brand, for our friendship, for fight fans.

We're back, baby. I may have slept last night in Arlington, Virginia, due to some extreme travel issues. You and I may have been on the same flight with a screaming baby, both of us in middle seats. Thank you, Showtime. While Dan Rayfield, Jesse Vargas, and Jared Swift heard, enjoyed much more comfortable conditions. But we're back with a bang.

You don't want to know what I smell like, but I made it. I showed up. When the red light's on, BC's here, and he does turn back into that goat that you mentioned. Only I'm talking about the greatest of all time. All right, well, it's not getting carried away, but poor BC and I, we had a far... BC, because he lives in the middle of nowhere, doesn't get directs anywhere,

so he has to connect to either Chicago or Philly or sometimes D.C., so we both have the same flight. I'm a big Charlotte connection guy, okay? Charlotte's another one. So we both took the flight from Vegas to D.C. yesterday, and it was not an awesome flight. We both had middle seats. It was five hours.

Then we got stuck in the tarmac for another another what seemed like a few more hours after that it was it was truly awful and then BC couldn't get his luggage because he missed it hold on hold on BC couldn't get his connection because hello our flight was late so he couldn't get his bags so he had to go to some random hotel near national airport last night and then come right back five hours later i did not envy you good sir although for the record bc i offered you a place to stay i do i offer that i do want to put that out there i offered to do mk right here together in my office i want to put that out there you said bc you stayed with me at baggage claim to see if my bags came when it was literally you me swift heard jesse vargas and some weird guy and uh you offered uh i countered trying to be maybe the the the lithuanian meat in an all-columbian sandwich you turned me down i in the end chose hotel over your

spare room but i appreciate the gesture luke all right well as long as you got home and you're okay they had your bags when you landed at hartford yeah yeah yeah they were the first ones out um did you at least entertain my offer to uh you know blend marriages i don't recall you ever saying that mostly i had to recall you mouth breathing and then sort of looking forlorn at the airport wondering where your neon purple bags were. The only bags I see are the ones under your eyes. Yeah, you're damn right about that. I got two other saggy bags too. Look, here's what I'm trying to say

right now is I hope everybody enjoyed our entertainment that we've given them. Our analysis, our laughs, all that shit i know and i do respect luke i respect the core audience of mk and that are people that don't understand comedy that don't understand good times they want pure hardcore government issued mma luke thomas inspired analysis and they did not get that in the instant reaction on saturday night because you and me were all calabashing at it like marionettes like like

delirious uncles so i have just recently re-watched the ufc to something main card and i'm ready to talk some real mma like men do yeah i have to say the fight companion thing that we did which folks were folks like why did you guys do that we literally it was that or do nothing so like i mean i don't know what you want us to do but what i would say is about that it's a fun thing to do and i would definitely do it again folks did ask us to like consider that i'll say this bc it's a terrible way to watch fights we missed half the shit just cracking jokes like it's not a good way if you really want to understand what's happening, don't do that shit.

But, okay. First things first. My scoring is a lot different, it turns out, when I'm actually paying attention. Yeah. Who knew? Same. Same. All right.

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I just want to thank our great fans. I really mean it. We pumped it more than once this week for you guys. We put a lot of shit out there. You guys consumed it. You watched it. You critiqued it okay you lived in it thank you this is this is why you lift them weights in the offseason for the weeks that we

just had okay where it all comes together all right and luke you know what we met that challenge yeah i also got to say thanks to our crew in vegas the mulca crew cory i mean technically jay uh i also give her credit she was on point ashley was there she did a great job everyone really did a great job even the cameramen who were vaping while they were filming us and then doing god knows what else on uh with their drugs but i don't want to say any more to get anybody in trouble but those vaping camera guys were the best yes yes you always knew who to talk to about where the party was afterwards. And by the way, fresh off the, this just came in my email like three minutes ago,

Amanda Serrano is going to face off against Miriam Gutierrez in the co-main event for Paul vs. Fury on Showtime Pay-Per-View Saturday, December 18th. So there you go. We'll talk about that a little bit later. Okay, BC, let's get this party started. Shelby, you ready to go? Yeah, let's do this shit.

Let's do it. All all right here we go topic number one let's get to the rundown uh okay here we go if you're an mma fan we're gonna put canelo number one and then it's nothing but mma after that i know everyone is very uptight about this just Just let us get through it and you'll be okay. But okay, we started with Canelo for a couple of reasons. Oh, he works, or this was on Showtime. That's one. But really, the other reason is this, BC. That was the most significant combat sports achievement of the weekend, right? Unifying at 168, becoming the first Mexican to unify a weight class, becoming just one of, I think, six or seven folks in the history of boxing in the four-belt era around 2004 or so to ever unify a weight class.

He gets a stoppage over Caleb Plant in the 11th round. We had a whole thing about it. Here's what I want you to do. I want you to grade his performance. What kind of grade and why would you give Canelo Alvarez for that on Saturday night? That's a good question. How about an A-minus, Luke? And why I do that is this.

Canelo did everything he had to do to figure out a skilled and difficult opponent and follow through with a finish. 11th round stoppage, two knockdowns, fight waved off. But the reason why Caleb Plant was able to linger and on some people's cards win more rounds than others is the elite skills that he brought to the table, he hunkered down on those. He flexed those.

He was hard to hit. He was hard to hit clean more than once. He was elusive. He was tough as nails. That did not allow Canelo Alvarez a full showcase of his skill set like we've seen in some of these other fights when he made earlier and quicker adjustments and then the fight was over. Canelo Alvarez in this one, I thought he made the adjustment in the first round that was going to spell the end of the fight, but to Caleb Plant's

credit, he kept moving, kept covering up, kept figuring out how to do just enough offensively to stay in there. It wasn't an A-plus performance by any means from Caleb Plant, but it was something different for Canelo Alvarez to have to deal with. And, you know, A-minus in flying colors, he dealt with it. You're not going to have a perfect night, even though he's No. 1, best in the world, you know, with a bullet. And he found a way to finish that fight off. He was ahead on the scorecards. And when Canelo finds the opening, he gets you. He finishes it. And the whole point of when you

look at the betting odds coming into this fight, it was easy to say, oh, Caleb Plant's just a name. He's just a title holder. He's just whatever. And we were making the case, no, styles make fights. And this is an interesting style for Canelo to have to deal with. Turned out it was a pretty interesting style for him to have to deal with. It took time. It took adjustments, but he dealt with it because that's what the best in the world does. That's what Floyd Mayweather would do when he was on top. This is yet again, another thrilling performance from a fighter in Canelo Alvarez who has evolved to a level where there are no holes in his game he's as poised and calm and ready to take on all comers this was his fourth fight in 12 months the three previous fights he fought in a five-month period what we're watching right now at age 31 is is greatness and this one was a little bit more difficult he didn't get to

showcase everything like I said but he got the job done. Let's give him an A- here, Luke. I agree with your score completely. A- I think is exactly right. Hard to give an A+, because there were some challenging rounds for him. I thought Caleb Plant obviously outright won three, maybe four rounds, and even some of the rounds that Canelo Alvarez won that were a little bit close. This was a close fight in a lot of different respects,

and I think for that reason, you have to give Caleb Plant credit. He put out a statement yesterday on social media saying he proved that he belongs at this level. I think he's right. He proved that he is a championship-level fighter. I think he's right. I think he absolutely showed up. In fact, what's so interesting about this fight, BC, is that everyone was kind of right. The folks who said that Caleb Plant was just the kind of guy to

give Canelo some trouble, they were right there. He definitely gave Canelo some trouble along the way. Not enough to win, obviously, but he was a tough nut to crack. On the other hand, the folks who treat Canelo like Thanos and that he is inevitable, they were right as well. He obviously, for Caleb Nutt being a tough nut to crack, he obviously did eventually get cracked in the 11th. By the way, Sergey Kovalev going down in the 11th. Here you have Canelo Alvarez at 168 and 175 in the 11th round scoring stoppage wins. You know, not only does his power carry late, his power carries late up in weight. I mean, his power is extraordinary that he can do that to these kinds of guys who are just routinely and in every way bigger than him. It's pretty impressive.

But I think the thing you highlighted was the one big takeaway for me that I think really needs to get out there. It's not that Canelo can deal with every style equally. Like, he's equally as good at disarming come-forward brawlers as he is slick stick-and-move type boxers like Caleb Plant. But here's the common denominator. None of those guys can beat him, right? Yes, it might take him a little bit longer to diffuse a Caleb Plant situation than one against, you know, pick somebody who's going to come in his face and brawl with him. But he still gets it done just the same. He can handle virtually, it seems like, any style with any boxer. And I won't say in any weight class, but any nearby

weight class to any nearby weight class to the point where now what we're talking about is for future fights ones where the opponents are big names but overmatched or old retreads because why not you just can't point to someone from 175 to 154 except in BC's case the retired Andre Ward where you're like oh that guy definitely has you know uh I mean I guess you could do like, oh, that guy definitely has, you know, I mean, I guess you could do a bit better of him, but you would just, you know, naturally say, oh, that Canelo has no shot against him. Canelo has no shot against some of these guys.

He has a shot against anyone within 20 pounds of almost either direction at this point. He is a phenomenal talent, clearly far and away your number one pound for pound boxer. And I have to tell you, I found what he did in terms of slowly systemically taking away caleb plant and investing in the body work and doing all the things he did to win that fight with caleb plant being very very crafty the entire time extremely impressive extremely impressive yeah and for everyone that that grilled me for giving all six of the first rounds to canelo and and i did give Caleb Plant seven, eight, and nine. I thought he made a nice comeback. Two of the three judges had it five to one Canelo at the break.

And I think we saw three very competent, good reputational judges here. And they had a close but clear win, as did I, 97-93 on my scorecard, heading into that 11th round for Canelo. Obviously, the two knockdowns, the knockout made it not happen. But if you're not a regular boxing fan or you've seen Canelo a few times and you're like, why this much overall praise for just this one fight? Caleb played good, but, you know, very good, but is this a super great performance and all that?

It's more just, hey, we've got to wake up and realize something. Like, if you didn't watch the resume review, if you weren't following Canelo's journey from when he first arrived on the scene as a main eventer, he wasn't this guy. There wasn't the same sort of, you know, when Canelo was first fighting Shane Mosley on Floyd's pay-per-view co-main events,

you know, like those type of fights, there was promise that we have a potential ticket seller here, a young, hungry, good fighter. There was no promise at that point, I'm sorry, that we were going to see not only Canelo ascend to the top of the pound-for-pound rankings and be able to just go after any style and bring all these belts together, but that he would, you know, have this much of an argument to really climb into the all-time great category here. This is a completely evolved fighter. And Luke, I mean, you've watched some of those early fights. He's learned and grown on the

job. There was not an indication during that initial run, even when he's headlining pay-per-views, that he could get to this point where he can move up in weight this rapidly and carry the speed, power, accuracy, and basically, you know, have the world as his oyster. He can fight these fights on any terms he wants. There wasn't an indication he would become that. This is why he gets so much praise, whether it's a mandatory fight against a no-hoper in Yildirim or it's against an unbeaten Saunders, an unbeaten Plant. This is why he gets so much praise because he's kind of, he's on a run of perfection right now I know there's been close decisions I know he hasn't always made the perfect decisions

but but when he ascended when he got in that king's chair and it became the Canelo era he's on a run right now that you you rarely you rarely ever see in the sport this is something special that we're watching even if you go back to the resume review bc and you look at some of the fights that we picked out when he was previously on showtime don't take me and bc's word for it go listen to at the time paulie malinaggi one of the commentators al bernstein obviously still working for showtime and anyone else who's calling those fights they were calling at the time quite correctly at the time canelo was something of a counter puncher they would call him and they would they would not mock his defense but they noted his defense was not very good in certain fights and

again he was still very young in his career these are things that of course he wasn't perfect he needed to to work on we're just pointing out to BC's point at this time in his career the idea he would ascend to what we have now was in no way obvious We knew he would be a big Mexican star that much Seemed pretty clear as long as he could keep winning on some level or the other and hello He has gotten that he we should say BC the UFC crowd that Bellator crowd and even that Mexican crowd in Las Vegas Dude, they it was a smaller one But they had they blew the fucking roof off of that MGM Grand Garden Arena.

And all three of those crowds, the American crowd, whoever it was in New York, the Irish crowd, and this predominantly Mexican or Mexican-American crowd, amazing combat sports crowds this weekend. But Canelo truly has become something special. And I think, I was telling you this at the airport, man, all that you know it's kind of retired now but remember there was a big sort of like talking points about how Canelo hadn't really fully captured the hearts of the Mexican fight fans that shit is over dude they they there was a call and response between he and the audience after he won and he had the crown on that was a moment I saw it with my own eyes I could not believe they adore Canelo. True or false? Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, he ticks all the boxes. And it used to be those hardcore Mexican fans that you mentioned because he's not Chavez. He's not this, you know, come forward warrior. Oh, but then he proved in the second Triple G fight that he can be if he wants to be. And he can still carry a high percentage of efficiency. I mean, he does it all.

So it's about now, Luke, what's next? And really, it's all on him. and he can still carry a high percentage of efficiency. I mean, he does it all. So it's about now, Luke, what's next? And really, it's all on him. He did in the post-fight press conference say, look, I've been treated greatly on this run by PBC, by Showtime, and I want to come back in May. I want to rest my body. So that crazy fast schedule of trying to accomplish all the belts, he got there.

He's going to take a little bit of a break. But who he comes back against in May, there's no way to even, you know, lean on who's the favorite here. He could go back to DAZN and cash in on that trilogy against Gennady Golovkin if Golovkin defends his middleweight title against Ryota Murata this December. But even if Golovkin doesn't, that's still a fight they can make. Or, you know, Canelo can look around and say, I'm having a good run right now with the PBC.

Let's bring on David Benavidez. Let's bring on a Jamal Charlo. Or let's go to 175 and keep this thing going. Luke, whichever direction he goes, you get the feeling it's going to stay on brand here, which is

big fight, big attention you know certainly some danger there but right now unless he's going to fight but turbiev there's not a ton of guys who can give him that danger and that that's that's just the tip of the cap to his greatness let's have a quick discussion and we'll move into the mma side of things here last part of canelo can we talk about how his resume stacks up against Julio Cesar Chavez? Because I have been, I was asked by CBS Sports, and truly this is a much more complicated debate than any of us can really do, even in the course of this podcast and whatnot. But if you just look at the resume, what stands out to you about Julio Cesar Chavez versus Canelo? Because they're asking me, where does Canelo rank among all-time Mexican boxers? And the default

answer for a long time has been Julio Cesar Chavez. And what happens is if you don't pick Chavez, people think you're being insufficiently reverential towards him. And they use that insufficient reverence as code for, well, you just don't really understand how good he was or the greater implications of this. So let's actually compare and see if we're being insufficiently reverent. You see, if you look at Chavez's resume, the thing that stands out more than anything is just the length of it. By the time it was over, he was 107-6-2. I mean, the guy was a road warrior and was busy in ways that modern boxers simply aren't. So partly, it's just a different business model. And he does have some nice wins along the way. He beat Roger Mayweather.

He beat Meldrick Taylor twice. He beat Hector Camacho. But he had the loss, or the draw, excuse me, against Pernell Whitaker. He lost to De La Hoya twice. He had the loss against Miguel Angel Gonzalez. He had the loss to Costa Zoo and some other ones. How do you stack up the resume of Canelo versus Julio Cesar Chavez? It's very close right now.

And some of those losses you mentioned on Chavez was the tail end. Chavez lingered for a very long time, and he was still fighting. When his son was an active fighter, they would share the same card. The thing for Chavez that Canelo doesn't have is that incredible stretch of when Chavez was 89-0-1 at his peak, when he finally lost cleanly to Frankie Randall in 1994. So in that 89-0-1 run, were there a lot of cab drivers as they would say? Yeah, absolutely. There was also that draw to Purnell Whitaker, which should have been a loss.

Really that draw to Purnell Whitaker, who was number one pound for pound at the time, was the equivalent of Canelo losing to Mayweather. You know, it's sort of like, okay, you're great, but there is one other guy. In between, you mentioned some of those great wins by Chavez. Really what's keeping him atop this is he represented something more than Canelo does for such a long time. I mean, Canelo has had to overcome the idea of like this movie star looks, the red hair and freckles for a Mexican kid which is you know not not normal uh in that way where he had approved to people that he could fight whereas Chavez was the everyman Chavez was the you know the the had the same feel as the guy

who gets up at 5 a.m to go to work to feel to feed his family there was a connection there to the people that I don't think Canelo can, he can't get that pure of a connection. He's getting there. He's getting there. But I think when you want to compare the two, it's going to come down to accomplishments. Chavez got some real names that he beat along the way. He did do it in a more closed set of weight classes there, you know, 135, 140, eventually

147. What Canelo's got in his favor, along with being the number one biggest star and number one pound for pound, which are things Chavez never fully acclaimed on a global status, although he was right, you know, in that conversation, is Canelo's now doing it over multiple weight classes, unifying titles, now the first undisputed Mexican champion. And he's taken on the best in the game. I mean, he's got wins over Miguel Cotto for the middleweight championship, Gennady Golovkin. He's starting to really put together when you throw in wins over Danny Jacobs.

You throw in unbeaten Saunders, unbeaten Plant. Luke, it's close. I don't know right now if I can firmly say he's 100%, but it's really going to come down to what's your, what's your pleasure to some? He may have already eclipsed Chavez to others, give him a couple more big wins or, or, you know, but this whole idea of going across four divisions and already claiming a title at light heavyweight, should he decide to go back up? He's going to, he's going to pass Chavez. It may have already happened to some. It feels inevitable right now.

He's already done things Chavez never got to. And, you know, nobody fights as often as Chavez did back then in this modern day. We're praising Canelo just for fighting four times in one year, right? All of these factors together. If it's not now, Luke, it will be soon. I'm with you. I think if it's not now, it is, frankly, i'm with you i think if it's not now it is frankly inevitable because canelo is what 30 31 in his prime he has years left of as i said on

saturday night terrorizing divisions that are nearby to his weight um but i also just want to put this in people's mind like doing what cesar chavez did was you know incredible uh obviously but you have to ask yourself, these are different questions, and they ultimately don't mean who is better, who is the number one. But I think Canelo, if it was forced to, could do what Chavez did. I don't know if Chavez could do what Canelo has done. I don't know who could do what Canelo has done. Very, very, very, very few.

That's just my opinion. There's no way to prove that. But that's why I sort of side with what Canelo has done. It's a different era. It's a different kind of achievement. They don't have the same achievements. Let me settle it like this. I think our real argument is,

has Canelo's achievements equaled the overall grandeur of what Chavez accomplished and what he meant to people? That's exactly right. That, I think he's close but not over. But I think the other side of it, Canelo's a more complete fighter. Canelo's a better fighter. If you put these two together in a mythical meeting look Chavez is great he's in that fight

he's going to get inside believe it I think Canelo is a better fighter at this point in his career all right well with that let's transition to MMA which I know some of our audience has been patiently waiting for so let's get to it here UFC 268 took place at Madison Square Garden in New York City and what a card it was frankly what a stretch for UFC it is 267 and 268 on back-to-back weeks is just this is what I mean when I say I told this to Brian like you have Tyson Fury doing things historically one month then a few weeks later here's Canelo doing historic things. And in between, you just have incredible amounts of high-level, totally memorable MMA action. There's just never been a time like this ever in our lifetime,

ever in the history of humanity for combat sports like this. But let's start with Kamaru Usman. So he defeats Colby Covington in the main event to retain his welterweight title. I want to talk about Dana White crowning him the GOAT, which I think is not justified. But in the meantime, BC, here's the thing that we both kind of came up with after the fact. We noticed that a lot of folks had called the fight,

or I should say scored it, rather, for Colby Covington. Upon rewatch, BC, which I know you did this morning, do you agree? Does Colby Covington have a case for winning on Saturday night? A case? Yes. They were right. And I do understand the plight of some of our fans who were like, hey, I wanted a legitimate Luke Thomas UFC reaction show, and I got BC doing a 60-minute set at a local comedy club. What we missed in that, Luke, were some of the nuances of the rounds.

So here's the deal. The fight looked a lot like the first one but not completely obviously right the first one was a a go-for-all boxing match in which they both were willing to take on big punishment to land their own shots and really just willing to test each other's chin will and gas tank and see who could be the last man standing turns out it was Kamaru by that much, that gap in terms of ability for Kamaru did widen in the nearly two years since that fight. But when you go back and really watch those rounds closely, three and four, for example, I think Colby Covington outworked Kamaru Usman in those. While one and two, what Usman did very, very well was control the center of the cage land the heavier shots and really just be patient look he was patient enough that he basically said look you know I

got more ways to beat you come at me with your best and I'm going to counter it and I'm going to just you know the difference for the first two rounds between that and the first fight was Usman not willing to take on all that damage for no reason. He was basically saying, you come to me and I'm still going to land the harder shots. But what you and I missed in real time in trying to watch that and put on an entertaining show was that Colby made some nice adjustments. And in three and four, I had him winning both in close rounds. And I think it came down to that fifth round, who you liked better. In the end, Luke, I likedzman by a hair in that final

round to hang on and win three rounds to two I think what that ending missed I don't think Colby sold his performance enough I don't know if Colby knew it was this close heading to the scorecards he was a humbled Colby I know since since their post-fight hug where, you know, Dan Marigulata said, why don't you guys go kiss? And you know, they're Colby's kind of explaining that all that shit talk was just to sell the fight, blah, blah, blah. We're friends now. I know Colby's come back since then and made some disparaging comments, but I think what was lost in that Luke was Colby didn't really sell. Not that it matters. The judge's scores are already in, but he didn't really sell. Hey, I might. The judges' scores are already in. But he didn't really sell.

Hey, I might have just won this fight. Luke, he might have just won that fight depending upon where you come from. Again, I thought Usman edged it, but I saw plenty of people scoring much of the second half for Colby. I want to know what you scored it on second rewatch, and I also want to know from you

what Usman didn't do in your eyes to leave that door open to allow Colby to rally and that wasn't it it wasn't a rally where it's like man he may he may overtake the champ but he's got an argument in those final three rounds Luke he does have an argument I scored it first and second round obviously second round you have to score it for Usman right I mean that one's easiest call to make on earth okay so there's that one I scored rounds one and two for Usman rounds three and four for Colby so to me it came down 2-2 to round five which by the way I think that's how I scored the first fight I may have had a 3-1 Usman but either way it was either 3-1 Usman or 2-2 and this one I had it 2-2 hitting into the fifth I gave it to Usman by a hair by a hair I thought he did just a little bit more of the popping

damaging work even though Colby had a slight numerical lead there but that's a tough call I think that Colby saying he has a case for this is true but like the problem with making the argument that you have a case to win is that argument is almost always going to be equally true for your opponent. So what you're basically arguing is that the fight is close enough that it comes down to preference. And that preference can go either way. But preference is just going to be essentially subjective. So when you argue, when you say, oh, I have a case, right, that argument extends to your opponent as well, which means neither of you are allowed to get mad about it,

even though the stakes are pretty high in this one. I'll tell you what really was kind of interesting to me about this fight. This was not, to me, Usman is impressive in what he... Let's also back up a step. Not every time St. Pierre won or defended his title was it pretty. You know, I thought his fight over Dan Hardy was not that great. There was a couple times where he got very close with submissions but but that was a very risk averse performance from George St-Pierre he went for the takedown he stayed in guard he did some passing but

there was hardly any ground and pound and you just couldn't quite square the threat at that time of Dan Hardy's guard with the lack of ground and pound it didn't make a lot of sense so this is not me saying that like every time champion wins, it's glorious. It's not. Sometimes it's very much workmanlike. This is one such case. Still, he took the right thing from the first fight. Which was the first two rounds of the first fight.

He was switching stances and getting eaten up when he went to southpaw. So he stayed ultimately in orthodox. This fight he did very little switching. And was almost entirely in orthodox. This fight he did very little switching and it was almost entirely in orthodox the entire time. And to the extent BC, he was using his jab, his push kick, right? Where now you have the distance between them. So Colby has to navigate that with his strikes. He has to shoot from way outside. I thought Kamaru won that portion of the fight handily. That was very easy for him. What got him in trouble was when he

would get close and then just exchange more or less in the pocket. Colby is actually better there. Colby is good about finding these whipping shots that come from unique angles. He puts combinations together better there. He's actually pretty accurate when you do that. If you stand in front of Colby and you want to have a volume battle, Dude, he will win that one. I think he's shown that now over the course of nearly 10 rounds between them that he's very good at that. And Kamaru let him just basically get away with this for the third and fourth round. And the fifth round is where it got a little bit different, BC. But that's more or less how I saw it.

Yeah, it's one of those fights where if you watched it without trying to score it and then at the end of it in pride style almost was like, you know, who do you think won it? You're going to say Usman, and I'm sure Usman went to that finish line thinking, look, man, I did enough. I dropped him twice in round two. I landed the bigger shots.

He did. But we score this just like in boxing, round by round. And in round by round, Colby had those pockets of two-way striking, as you mentioned, where he was sneaky. He was clever. He was faster at times. And I don't think Kamaru did enough to really put that stamp on it.

Look, in real time, I think I saw what I was supposed to see from Kamaru, which is he never let Colby overtake him. And that was key. And there were times in the first fight specifically round two where colby won that round clean and no doubt about it and you know he he had those stretches where he's backing kamaru up and maybe hurting him and putting on flurries there was really none of that it was much more slower chess but uh kamaru does have to be a little bit careful luke in real time i thought this was a commanding like next step next level step forward for kamaru where on second watch i think it was a commanding like next step next level step forward for Kamaru where on second watch I think it was a little bit more of you know do what you have to do but leave it in those judges hands and

I think he was lucky that it wasn't the you know a wrong night at the office for him where I mean he could have lost the belt by accident in this one Luke yeah also Colby saying he got those takedowns he didn't get those takedowns. Not by the way which fight metric measures them, no. I don't know, man. I mean, I know DC, when I got to hear the broadcast, went heavy on that, that he did. I kind of think he did, Luke. I kind of think he got, I mean, he got them down to his hands and knees from behind. It's not a takedown, unless you get on top.

It's not a takedown. If I bring you to your hands and knees, it's not a takedown. I've got to get you to your hip. All right, let me ask this not out of a place of understanding because I don't claim to know a ton about this but the first takedown from Colby which was in the first or second round in which Kamaru rolled through it with him so that he could use the momentum against Colby how is that not a takedown when Colby shot in you have to you have to establish control on the ground he never established it he got his back to the ground or whatever his hip to the ground never under control it was never

under control so it doesn't count yeah i mean this argument doesn't do anything for the scoring of the fight at the end of the day but right you know colby did fight his ass off and i give him that respect i think it was an uphill i mean dude i actually the second time i watched this i don't know how you felt i was like dude, dude, Colby got way better. Like, he knows his strengths. He leans into them. He couldn't get shit going with the wrestling, but I'm glad he at least tried.

I thought it made a difference in some ways. I would have liked more leg strikes. I would have liked more calf kicks, more body kicks, something to try to mix it up. There was the threat of a head kick once in a while, but he didn't really commit to it. But, you know, through that, though, he's pretty damn elite, Luke. It's going to turn out in history that he's going to fall just short twice

of a guy who, as we pivot now, you know, is knocking on that door of trying to become the best welterweight of all time and one of the truly elite fighters in UFC history. But Colby's not that far off. You know, it's interesting. Colby would beat, do you think Colby would beat St. Pierre in his prime? No.

Because he'd get jabbed to death, right? I just think GSP has too many ways to control a fight. He's a better chess player than Colby. He's a better chess player, and he's got phenomenal takedown defense. He has good submissions. And power, dude. I mean, he's completely well-rounded across the board.

And his – yeah. I was just thinking about this because it could come to the case, BC, where Colby never wins a title. Now, maybe he does in the future. I don't know. We'll see. But it could happen where he doesn't win a title and yet could still go down as – I don't know where he would rank,

but in terms of, like, overall ability, where would it put Colby Covington at the end of his career? Again, we'll have to see what he does. But he might have one of these cases where he belongs among consideration as some of the best that welterweight has ever had to offer, even never having had the hardware wrapped around his waist. I know he had the interim title, but I mean the official one. I guess we'll have to see where he goes from here.

So speaking of that, BC, where do you think Colby does go from here? What's the next right move? He called out, he seemed like Jorge Masvidal. He wanted Jorge to drop out of the fight he has against Leon Edwards. What do you think? Yeah, I think that's the right pivot. I wonder, and I said this to you after the fight, and just again, folks, okay, Luke and I did that live watch show like, you know,

it's the most inopportune time for us to get it right, right? We just watched the entire Canelo fight, did all the post-fight coverage, did a post-show. We were watching UFC through our fingers on a second TV. So it wasn't our best way to really zoom in. We did the best we could for you there. Now we're giving you the good stuff. I wonder how much more Colby has in him. Meaning when you got to the mountaintop and you fall just short twice and that guy that you just fell just short to he's not going anywhere for a while so your chances of a title shot in your prime it's not looking good right now so what do you do I think you pivot to try to make the

most money you can and he's done a great job by the way even through cringe methods of having these little beefs with all these guys, whether it be lightweights, whether it be welterweights, that he can sort of focus in on and cash in on him. I think that's the point of his career where he's going to. I just wonder how many more times he's actually going to fight because when you get to that level and you put so much into trying to be the best and you can't be the best, sometimes those guys don't linger for a long time. So him deciding on Masvidlow right now is very smart Maslow's um stock at the moment is is still relevant from a name value but

he's pushing into his late 30s and that magical year of 2019 in my eyes is getting further and further away I think that's a fight Colby Covington can win will win knows he's gonna win and it seems like a smart move. There's plenty of backstory there. He could almost, Luke, with a little nuance, I wonder if he could kind of turn a little bit baby face against Masvidal and get some of the people cheering for him. Because George, from a brand statement, isn't as beloved as he was in 2019 by any means.

No, definitely not. His brand has declined to a degree. And also, I didn't know exactly how the fans were going to receive Colby. Colby Covington has fans. He does. I mean, again, you can say, oh, it's not as big as a lot of other bigger names in the UFC. That's not. We don't know if it's on that level. But, you ufc was saying that they were crushing pay-per-view expectations

again a big part of that of course is kamaru and rose and and everybody else who was involved in that card but it's colby as well colby got the biggest pop at the presser you know it's time to sort of acknowledge colby has built himself into a little bit of something i think they had a chant did you hear the first round chant for colby? I know eventually we got a fuck you Colby chant, but first round chant was all for Colby. Both of those are because of Colby, though. You know what I mean? They're reacting to him in one way or the other.

That's all he ever cares about. But I will say one thing, BC. I will say one thing. We don't know what's going to happen with Hamzat and who he's going to fight next. I don't think he's going to get fast-tracked to a title. Just reading the words and the body language of UFC President Dana White, that does not seem

at a bare minimum, eminent or even likely. So Colby has a little bit of time to play with here. I will say one thing. As good as he has gotten, BC, even if Kamaru goes away, I still maintain there's a little bit of another level he needs to get to to really claim a title.

I do believe that. I don't think he has maximized his potential, and I don't think he has reached quite a level of overall supremacy that allows him to comfortably say, I've sort of peaked in terms of my technical growth. What more can there be? I do think there's another level that he can probably fine-tune things. Not to the same degree that, like, Corey Sanhagen's working on stuff, but he's only 29.

But I do think that, like, if Colby's like, oh, I'm here, I just got to wait for this guy to leave, I don't think it's going to be so simple as that. I think a little bit of work extra in the gym is probably warranted. Look, let me ask you a question in hindsight, because I don't want to put some negativity on Usman, because in the end, this goes down as another great win. But to what we were

saying upon rewatch of Colby being more in this fight and having an argument to have won it Usman's everything I mean he has evolved so rapidly under Trevor Whitman his cardio is insane his wrestling is amazing he's now a knockout puncher if you come at him um do you think in hindsight you would have liked to have seen him close stronger and go for the finish in this fight? Or is that asking too much? Because he got a little GSP-like down the stretch. Yeah, I mean, I'm one of these guys

who obviously what you would have wanted to have seen in the fifth round was what you saw in the fifth round the first time around when he dropped him. You would want to have seen what happened in the second happen in the fifth. That's time around when he dropped him. You would want to have to have seen what happened in the second happen in the fifth. That's always going to be your preference.

But, dude, it's not always that easy. This is what I mean about being a champion. Sometimes champions go in there like Canelo, and they're just so much better, even up a weight class. You're like, wow, man, this dude is just inevitable. And sometimes they get by on the skin of their teeth. I mean, this was a unanimous one, so it was not like so skin of their teeth. Or, you know, I mean, this was a unanimous one. So it's not like so skin of the teeth.

But you know what I mean? Like the fifth round was a little bit close. That's just how it goes sometimes. So I always agree with you. Like you really want to see that championship stamp put on there. It's just when you're fighting a guy like Colby Covington, dude, he's going to be stingy with it. It's not going to be so easy. Let me ask you one more question.

I want to move to the co-main. Dana White has already declared Kamaru Usman to be the best ever at welterweight, even including over George St-Pierre. I've got to tell you, I don't agree with that really at all. Do you? Yeah, we're not there yet. But obviously to avoid what Kamaru has done and is doing would be naive. I mean, I'm looking at his record right now, 20-1 overall. We know he lost his second fight way back in 2013.

Has never lost in the UFC and has been dominant and has evolved into a finisher against Burns and Masvidal and Colby the first time. Luke, I just, like, GSP's consistency at the top, his complete, I mean, we're in a gentleman and a true, I mean, there are so many categories. We were talking about Canelo before. GSP, like that, has just clicked off so many categories of what it's like to not only be a champion

and a long reigning champion but somebody who has an argument at that goat chair whether it's welterweight or the entire sport and oh by the way gsp still does have an argument for that overall goat chair in the entire sport and if anyone says gsp is the best of all time look you're not no one's going to give him a dirty look i mean seriously i'm a john jones guy but nobody's going to give him a dirty look. I mean, seriously. I'm a Jon Jones guy, but nobody's going to give him a dirty look. I don't think Kamaru's there yet, but he's really close. To outright declare it now, I think it's a little bit more in the moment from Dana to try to bump up and sell Kamaru a little bit more. It's also him just respecting an active fighter

who's doing everything the promotion would want. And also, Luke, Kamaru didn't stand up at a podium in front of a camera with Bjorn Rebny and try to start a fighters' union, and Kamaru also didn't win the middleweight title and promise to defend it and then drop it. So, I mean, like, you know, you get it. You get it, right? I get it.

I see what you're saying there. I think that the case for Kamaru is interesting, and certainly he's the closest I've ever seen to someone. By the way, he's almost going to match Anderson Silva's record streak at 16, although Anderson Silva was fighting in title fights by his second or third UFC fight, so they're not identical streaks, but at the same time, you win 16 fights in a row in UFC, you're just a complete badass. So he's on the doorstep, but to me, there's just a few more things that aren't there.

Plus, never forget, St. Pierre went up a weight class after four years off and then took the title. I want to ask you that right there because if you're a Kamaru fan you'll go hey okay GSP is great but I saw him lose a couple times early on right? You know Kamaru has been unbeaten fighting elite

competition in the UFC so is there something Kamaru can do beyond defending his title another three four times then this is probably not going to be an argument anymore because he's going to acquire those records you talked about for consecutive wins, title wins, all that stuff. Do you need him to do what he said he would only do if the UFC offered $150 million,

which is move up and fight his good friend Israel Adesanya? Do you want and or need him to do that? To have a... I don't really know how to word this question. I just mean he can become – No, he doesn't need to do the exact same thing so then we can just measure the two goats together like that. No, no, not like that.

I think he can become the goat welterweight without doing that. Can he become the actual goat without doing something like that, Luke? No, probably not. That might be a little bit harder to come by because that achievement I think is going to be so ubiquitous where even if you wanted to grant let's say when usman is done whenever that may be you're like wow dude he's the goat welterweight and goat all time i i again let's just assume you wanted to do that i think by the time you know 10 years 15 years passes some guys and some ladies by the way might come along and then just make that argument

impossible by virtue of capturing titles which by the way way, I do think in the next 15 years we're going to see our first triple champ at a high level. I think that will happen. It will be unusual and rare and not that common, certainly, but I do think it will happen. It seems inevitable at this point. We'll see how that goes. So I do think he probably almost, I think it's almost inevitable he will become welterweight GOAT. We'll see. But I agree, without weight class change, the broader argument is almost impossible. All right, BC, let's go to the co-main event.

Let's start with Rose Namajunas, who defeated, I would call, a very game, Zhang Huili, to retain her strawweight title. Now, like Covington, let's start the conversation here. Does Zhang Wai-Li, does she have a case that she won that fight? Luke, she not only has a case, I think she won the fight upon second watch. Remember when you and I were watching it live and we saw a bunch of those reporters who had their tweets put on the screen at the end of round three and it's like three nothing Wai-Li.

And in the moment, I'm like, are they watching the same fight i'm watching turns out luke you know i wasn't taking notes i was i was uh living it up with you here's the deal this is one of those where if you just watched it without scoring the way that rose finished this fight so strong fifth round complete dominance top position she owned wayley now you're not not a ton of ground and pounds but but she owned wayley you would go okay great fight close Rose won it but we score it round by round and scoring it round by round for real this time Luke I had Whaley up three nothing at that point I thought Rose was in the fight obviously as they were some very close rounds John Anik indicated on the air he thought number two was the swing around i think number three was the real

swing round where it really wasn't until the end of that third round where i edged it to way lee either way these are two all-time greats right here this was a very good rematch it went to five rounds like the second rose you want to fight only unlike that one as much as i love what rose did i love her poise i I love her adjustments. I love getting to hear the broadcast and hearing how her corner knows her so well. They know how to calm her down and try to make her laugh. Because, look, when she's walking out to, I'm the best. I'm the best.

I mean, that shit gets me fired up because Rose wears her life, her emotions, her journey on her sleeve. The fact that she's this badass and a champion still has to kind of talk herself into being that. It's relatable. All that aside though, I think what I saw the first time I watched it was Rose more efficient in terms of the striking on the inside where Whaley was loading up throwing more looping ones. I didn't think Rose did enough upon second watch though in those first three rounds. Whaley landed the bigger shots. She had the key takedowns. I liked Rose's adjustment

in round four and certainly in round five Rose was dominated. Not a 10-8 but Rose dominated that one to leave no doubt. Three rounds to two. Zhang Weili let's do a trilogy. Luke that's what I ended with. Wow that's interesting., I'll say this. I was looking up MMA Decisions. For folks who don't know, you can go to MMADecisions.com and they look at media scores, how the judges scored everything round by round so you can get a look and sort of see what the

overall folks were thinking. In the case of Usman and Covington, you had virtually every single media score for Usman, different ways, some 49-46, some 48-47, whatever. And then just one for Covington, two had it a draw. So pretty overwhelming in that case that they thought Kamaru Usman won. You go to Rose Namajunas and Zhong Wai Li, the game changes completely.

First of all, I think you had, what, a split decision, right? So there's number one, It made it more close. Now, you had more people picking Rose Namajunas, I'd say, two to one. But John Pollock, MMA Junkie, Ryan Frederick, Sherdog, Cage Side Press, Sean Sheehan, who I think is, by the way, a great judge, sort of unofficially, right? He had it 49-46 for Zhong Wiley. He had it not even close for her. Yeah, I think she actually has a pretty good case, BC. I actually wouldn't mind if they ran this one back again. I don't know what the appetite is. It'd be weird to make Rose

fight two pairs of fights where it was the same fighter for two, you know, back-to-back, then back-to-back, and then back-to-back- to back to back that would be really weird almost without precedent so I don't know that they can do that but BC I will tell you that Zhong Wai Li is very much the worthy adversary of Rose Nama Yunus I don't think it's hard to make a case for her I thought that her top control didn't have enough firm control in terms of keeping Rose flat or maintaining the position from the back there wasn wasn't enough ground and pound. She was kind of wild and frenetic, which we did talk about on Saturday night. But dude, that was... If you

picked Rose to win, like if that's the way you normally scored it, I wouldn't argue too much with it. But I would very much caution, not so much like the main event. This one was a coin flip at worst. It really was. I mean, you've got to give Whaley so much credit to make the adjustments she did

from a head kick first-round KO in that fight and to your point, coming off the sustained damage and the long layoff from the Ioana win to be able to round out elements of her game. I mean, look, she is a great, Zhang Whaley, a great fighter. And I know she's not getting any younger. She's, what, 32, 33. I think we will see this fight again, Luke. Zhang Weili a great fighter and I know she's not getting any younger she's what 32 33 I think we will see this fight again Luke I think this is one of those losses but a win for Weili

where yeah she's gonna have to circle back she's gonna have to beat some some top contenders bring on Carla Esparza next for Rose and I do agree with something I've said consistently that you know when Rose is at her best and she she was pretty damn near close to it in this one, you know, she may be the best women's strawweight fighter we've ever seen. I mean, she's got two wins over Ioana, two wins now over Weili, and one over Jessica Andrade. So she's, you know, all she has to do now is she goes and beats Carla Esparza, who is the inaugural champion and who beat her for the belt.

The resume is sick, and I love to see Rose get to this point because the fun in the Rose journey was she's had dramatic lows along with the dramatic highs. But I think, you know, Weili's going to be back here, Luke, and I think it's going to be... I don't know where Ioana fits in this. I don't think UFC's going to just give her, you know, the title fight.

I wonder if they're going to offer her... Weili. I wonder if they're going to offer her Wei Li. I wonder if they're going to say, okay, you want to make big money? We got one more for you. You're not going to get a free title shot here, despite your name. Do the Wei Li fight a second time. And Luke, this version of Wei Li is going to beat Ioana the second time a lot easier. You mean the

third time? What do you mean? The second time. Wei Li beat Ioana the second time. Oh, sorry, sorry. Yes, yes, yes? What do you mean? The second time. Wei Li beat Ioana the second time. Oh, sorry, sorry. Yes, yes, yes. What am I saying? Yes, absolutely. Yeah, that time it might be quite different.

She seemed to be quite fresh. I will say, though, that one thing you were asking from Kamaru that you didn't get, that you did get from Rose, was a bit of a fifth-round push. You just look at their numbers, BC. They tell the story. You had Rose getting a takedown with nearly four minutes of control time and then limiting Zhong Wai Li to her least amount of output in any of the rounds,

just eight total significant strikes there that landed. That was a great job to, you know, seal it, right? Leave no doubt by the time the fifth round happened. Obviously, you know, judging doesn't quite work that way, but you know what I mean. Like, really put a stamp on the fight as it ends. So I thought she did a great job with that. But, dude, they are neck and neck, 1A and 1B.

And honestly, if they fought another night, that could have easily had a situation where Rose loses. So I would like to see, like you, Zhong Wai Li get one more maybe and then get right back in it. Because Rose does need a fresh opponent. But they can't look past what they saw here. The contenders came to fight on Saturday night in New York City. And Zhong Wai Li, chief among them.

Luke, Carla Spars has been on such a nice run. Do you see a close and competitive fight here with Rose? Because that feels like that's got to be next. Probably. I think so. I think she's earned it. It's a different Carla, you know. Rose is probably much better than Carla in certain ways.

But, dude, Carla's wrestling is good. Her top control, it's good. Like, Kalan Oyama, her longtime trainer, is a fucking major talent that just no one talks about, which just blows my mind. Yeah, man. Like, she's a live dog. I would favor Rose to win. Yes, I would. But do I think that's like a foregone conclusion?

People think because Carla versus Rose isn't as exciting to some as some other ones that Carla has no chance. No, dude. She's not number one contender again by accident. Actually, she's a live dog as far as I'm concerned. I like that fight. Yeah, it's going to be. I like the story in that fight, though. I do.

It's a great fight to make. Tells you about how fortunes change in MMA, how divisions develop, and it was really the right call for the UFC to bring that one up. Basically, they strip-mined Invicta to get it up, and it was the right call for them. And that division has thrived. but some of the same power players, they find themselves in unique positions even years later. All right, let's go to number four on the list here, BC.

Justin Gaethje and Michael Chandler opened the pay-per-view main card in New York City, and what a fight it was. But the question I have for you, BC, is first, did Justin Gaethje do enough for you either in this fight or however you measure it to be the next one to contend for a title for the winner versus Poirier versus Oliveira yeah yeah 100% Luke I mean good god he went in there against as elite and dangerous a foe as you can face in this stacked division and Michael Chandler, who, I mean, he was all freaking in every second of this fight, Chandler, trying to win it. You know, to his own detriment at times, yet the fact

that this went the distance is insane. Luke, this first round is, what did Jim Croce say? If I could put time in a bottle, if, I mean, I want to feel like I felt during this first round all the time, Luke. I mean, I would be a walking orgasm, Luke. I envy those. I think I saw Laura Stanko on some interview, maybe with Submission Radio, trying to describe what it was like in that building and people were just going sick.

I envy those who got to sit ringside in MSG for this theater, as they say. Our friend Brandon Wise of CBS Sports was able to sit up close and just drink it. What a fucking performance, Luke, of just manliness and danger and testosterone and, you know, BDE from both of them. But the lean that I had in trying to handicap this proved true. It's that Justin Gaethje's durability won out against a guy who was all in on his own danger and brought it, but those short left hooks from Gaethje, those impossibly painful leg strikes that he lands with such power from close range. They were the key.

He's there, Luke. You may have seen the Justin of old come out because he had to in this fight. But that reformed Justin still there under Coach Trevor Whitman. And he damn right deserves the next title shot. In fact, I dare you to tell me somebody who could deserve it over him, and I dare you to find somebody who could re-watch his title shot against Habib and not understand how freaking close he was to putting the champ in peril, Luke. Closer than Poirier.

Not very. Not very is the answer. Also, it just goes to show Chandler couldn't get Gaethje down at all, and Habib did it with ease. Kind of tells you the levels of ability there, because Chandler is a phenomenal wrestler, so is Justin Gaethje, and Gaethje got thrashed on the mat by Habib. I will say this.

Let me ask you this way. Why doesn't Islam Makhachev deserve the next shot? What has he not done? I mean, Islam's the right answer to my question of tell me who deserves. Okay, yeah, obviously, Islam Makhachev's on that run. Gaethje's beat better quality competition, and his only loss in this stretch is to the greatest lightweight of all time, and he was in that to a certain degree,

and then he went in against the most dangerous guy they could give him. And he beat him. I kind of think Islam Makhachev needs one more, Luke. You know what? I don't think it's a bad. You know, after Islam won at UFC 267, I was kind of like, well, this is the guy because he just, I mean, he just walked past Hooker. But then you think about it.

It's like, dude, beating Hooker is legit. Especially in the way that he beat Hooker, right? Like barely breaking a sweat, you know? But at the same time, it's like, is beating Hooker, as good as Hooker is, as much as we respect him, is that sufficient for a lightweight title shot? Probably not, right? And that's maybe his highest profile win that Makhachev has. I think I agree with you.

I think I might be flip-flopping here. To me, I'll say this. The case for Gaethje being like, oh, obviously he's the guy. I've got to tell you, I'm not amazed by that. But given that his only loss up to this point, well, more recent loss anyway, is against Habib. And then he rebounded against another guy in Chandler. That's just a tougher road than what Islam has done. But I agree, if Islam gets one more, you can't deny him at that point.

And I'm really banking on the three most recent. I'm not counting the Cowboys throwing. I'm talking about the three most recent big wins for Gaethje. The knockout of Edson Barbosa. The vacant title or interim title, whatever. Title win over Tony Ferguson, who at that point you know still held still held a large level of credibility and in danger and now this against Chandler that trumps the winning streak of Islam Mahachev at this point Luke it does it does it does all right

let me ask about Michael Chandler for just a second if I can so he came to the UFC at age 34 he was very clear he's coming to test himself. He's not coming here to pad a resume. He doesn't care about protecting his record. He obviously is trying to win, but he's going to take on tough challenges. And you got to give him exactly that. He fought Dan Hooker. He fought Charles Oliveira. And now Justin Gaethje, dude, he ain't fighting chumps. He's out there fighting good guys, but he has gone one and two. Of course, BC, the mitigating circumstances is he came within a hair's breadth of beating Charles Oliveira. And even in this fight, he was pretty competitive and had Justin Gaethje rocked several times. He was in these fights, but the numbers say one win, two losses in three fights.

How do you evaluate to this point the first three fight stretch of Michael Chandler's UFC run well he he lived he didn't do anything differently than he told us he would to your point you know the the great line of of here for a good time not a long time I I asked you this question during our reaction show and I think it's a poignant one in hindsight now in hindsight it's tough to say because Chandler going all in basically every second of his UFC career so far, including accepting that last minute, you know, weighing in as a replacement in Abu Dhabi, accepting like, you know, everything he's done since coming to the UFC. It's been about being all in in the moment.

And while by being in the moment, he literally came that close to winning the UFC lightweight championship against Oliveira. I mean, he had two moments in that fight where you're just like, holy shit, he's going to win the championship. He didn't do it. He had big moments in this Gaethje fight. He lost. He was consistent to what he said, so I give him that credit. And by doing that, you better believe he's

got to be beloved by Dana White right now. This is the exact type of attitude, swagger, performance, company man, always in shape, always ready to break. I mean, that's exactly what the UFC wants, that. But was that his best opportunity to maximize the time that he has here and the opportunities that he has here? I don't know, Luke, because he's been all in every single second on just rolling the dice in danger. Could he have won this fight? Which, you

gotta argue, if he had won this fight, would he have slipped past Islam Mahachev for the title opportunity? Would he have had to face Islam? You don't know what's gonna happen next. Could he have done it? Would he have done it if he was a little bit more controlled and set up i don't see him taking down gaethje at will and having big moments in top position

i don't know i what i can't figure out right now luke is if by by by gambling like he has did that elevate what he has left to the highest point it could be or did it take away a little bit from it the more i said a little bit i think it took a little way a bit but it's okay actually i mean here's what i would say he came here to test himself and he's been tested and what i have seen is someone who is thoroughly deserving of being in the top five of the of the best in the entire weight class in the world, independent of organization, no doubt about it. And I would also say, BC, on Michael Chandler's

best day, he's the best. When he is at his very best, he has an opportunity to beat anyone else in that weight class. And I really, truly believe that. That dude is a fucking hammer who always comes in shape. But more often than not, what he has shown is he is not the best lightweight on earth. He can be that on the right day. On just the right night, he does have that in him. But time over time, he's not going to be that guy. And so you have this creeping realization that he can't claim to be the best lightweight on earth. Yet at the same time, he is entirely worthy of the respect of his very elite peers he beats some of them he puts the other one through their paces to me he's a top five

lightweight who's all action who is capable of beating better guys than him on the right night and um that's it that's how i evaluate michael chandler what's wrong with that nothing wrong with that there What's wrong with that? Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean, it's somebody taking their opportunity and giving everything they had to it and going for it. I can respect that. I don't know, Luke. The more I really think about it, I wonder if he

would have come up short. If he would have fought a little bit more strategically. If he would have found out that he's very good but he's not on the same level as those guys by being that dangerous and gambling and going for it it may have elevated his game luke i'm starting to believe that and it is what it is at that point maybe maybe nevertheless um it will be tremendous to see what happens next with them all right bc last but certainly not least in the rundown, let's get to it.

Number five, Patrycki Pitbull. By the way, you're asking, what about Frankie? What about all these guys? Check them out on MK Extra Credit. We're going to talk about Alex Pereira, Frankie Edgar, Edmund Shabazzian, a lot of stuff on there. The new Conor McGregor, Luke? The new Conor McGregor? Who?

What are you talking about? Ian Gary? Oh, Ian Gary. We might get to him as well. Nice Conor McGregor, you mean? I'm trying to sell your show, Luke. I'm trying to sell it to the masses, you know? Thank you. Thank you, BC. Thank you.

All right. Patrycki Pitbull is your new Bellator lightweight champion. BC, he looked great against Peter Quilley. Again, that Irish crowd, absolutely phenomenal. I mean, that was one of the best walkouts I've seen for Bellator ever, period. And one of the better ones in MMA you'll find. All right. But the question is not about how great the evening was or the Irish crowd itself. The question is about Patrycki.

He looked phenomenal in this win. No doubt about it. He earned it cleanly. Stopped the guy with strikes. No doubt about it. But is he a transitional figure? Or is he going to dominate this weight class for some time sadly for him he's he's most likely going to be a transitional champion but it's not it's not about that or that being a negative because what patricky pitbull has done

is he's had a great career and it's been largely under the bellator banner he's been part of the fabric like his brother like michael chandler before them in terms of you know who's the face of this promotion not only all time but but you know, you know, the past 10 years, it's Petriki Pitbull. He's 35 now. He's come up just, he's the bridesmaid so many times in the waters parted perfectly to open up for this opportunity. His brother gave up the title.

He had a guy in front of him in a rematch who he's better than. I thought he was better than the first fight, but Queely to his credit was able to force that stoppage. But we saw what we needed to see here. I think Quealy just stayed in the pocket a little bit too long. I don't know if he was trying to, you know, gas Pitbull over time, but when Patrycki found that opening, that's what the Pitbull brothers do. They land powerful shots. That right cross that hurt Quealy was beautiful. The left hand to get him again and finish him off quickly on the ground. It was a great moment for him. And you've got to, again, tip your cap to Patricio Pitbull

for opening this up to his brother there. But you've mentioned the name Usman Nurmagomedov as a guy who's coming. The cousin of Habib. Unbeaten. Looked great so far in Bellator. I'm saying, hey, AJ McKee just beat Patricio Pitbull at, what, 45? He'll be at 55 when he wants to, fighting for that belt. Yes, this feels transitional, but what a moment for Patricio,

who didn't really, I know he climbed the cage, but he didn't go ape shit and be like, yeah, I worked for this my whole life. He sort of just took it in like, yeah. And what a night in that arena he he was effusive in the post fight interview he he was he was bigging everybody up then what what i mean you i don't think we can undersell that walkout what that crowd is like i think it was you who tweeted or told me like you know if bellator can only get an irish star and you know they tried with james gallagher who lost in this co-main event in a big step up opportunity but

that crowd is oh man that crowd's great that zombie walk out with the crowd singing it i mean it looks like chris jericho at an aew match with the crowd singing his theme song i mean it was just special and then patricky on the road just shuts them all the hell up. It's a big win, a big performance. But no, Luke, I don't expect him to defend the title even once, Luke. Yeah, I'll say this. I mean, Patrycki, between he and his brother, has been something of the forgotten one because he had some bad losses.

Like Michael Chandler shut his lights out in the worst way possible, right? I mean, a vicious KO. And he's had some other losses along the way too. And so it took his brother essentially abandoning this post for him to move into it. But, you know, listen, I'll tell you this much. He has been a Bellator staple for a long time. He is consistently one of the better lightweights in their division.

He waited his turn and he got it. And he is the deserving champion. And about that, there can simply be no debate. Peter Quigley had two chances to take it from him. Not the belt, but, you know, the win. And he couldn't do it. He couldn't do it. He couldn't do it even in his hometown.

So he's the deserving champion. But, dude, I mean, listen, you just got to call it like it is. All of these promotions, including Bellator, are signing all these guys from the Smash Factory. If you've not been watching Bellator, and you've not been seeing what Usman Nurmagomedov is doing, oof, you are about to have a rude awakening. Usman Nurmagomedov, and your point is AJ McKee might go up there and take it too. I take that absolutely seriously. We'll see if he changes the weight class to go do it, but I agree. If he goes up there, he is as ready for that title as

just about anybody you can name. But to me, Usman Nurmagomedov is better than Petriki everywhere, and not by a little bit, but by a lot. I think it is inevitable that Usman Nurmagomedov wears that title, and probably sooner rather than later. So as good of a win as this was for Petriki, as improved as he is, as nice as it is to see someone who gave their career to Bellator get opportunities from Bellator to be in the spotlight and to shine, as improved as he is as nice as it is to see someone who gave their career to bellator get

opportunities from bellator to be in the spotlight and to shine i'm happy with all of it but you know you're putting a gun to my head and asking me who's going to be the champion in one year's time if we did this show in one year from today it's usman number gamidov with a bullet and it's not even it's not very hard to call that but sometimes we see i'll go on like you know sports radio shows and they'll be like oh who's the next big guy coming up that we should pay attention to? And I'll name someone, and they'll be like, well, that's such an esoteric name.

Only you could have picked that out. And I'm like, dude, no. When you see these guys coming, it's not hard to identify who sticks out from the pack. Usman Nurmagomedov can strike. He can wrestle. He's got submissions. He's smart.

He doesn't get hit. He can wrestle. He's got submissions. He's smart. He doesn't get hit. He's young. He's athletic. That dude is about to beat some people up on way to, I think, capturing and retaining that belt. And when I say a perfect storm, this is a reshuffling of the deck in this division for Bellator. It's not particularly deep at the moment.

There's some retreading old names getting cycled out. So, it was the perfect moment for Patrycki. But, Luke, what do you make of the captain? And I'm trying to start shit. He had a decision to make. Eric Al-Burasin, who was brought into Zhang Weili's camp for the Rose fight, he chose being in Weili's corner at MSG instead of

being in Patrycki's for his title fight. That's a tough decision to make, Luke. That is a tough decision to make. But candidly, I think Zhong Wai Li had a bigger responsibility and difficult challenge relative to what Patrici had. I don't mean to say Peter Creeley is some chump. I don't think that he is. But Patrici, relative to what he...

Patrici had done well enough the first time. Obviously, he got hit a little bit too much with those elbows and got cut open, so that was the issue. But in general, you could have a strong degree of confidence that Patrycki could win that without everyone necessarily being there. I don't think that's crazy to say. Comparatively,

I think Zhong Wai Li would have needed every bit of help against someone as decorated and accomplished as Rose. And sure enough, they made the right call, even if they didn't necessarily get their hand raised. But yeah, great weekend of fights. And if you missed something and we didn't get to it, check us out on MK Extra Credit. We'll get to it there. Okay, BC.

We have now asked each other questions, but it's time for the audience to ask us questions. It's time for DMs from the Diggity Dogs. Hee haw! Hee haw. We've, we've, we've, hee-haw! Hee-haw. Alright, BC, from underscore, excuse me, at Kieran underscore Edwards 2,

with an absolutely outstanding weekend of fights, Brian Campbell, what was your, well, each of us, your moments of the weekend? What do you say? Yeah, let me answer that professionally and in terms of you know fight fandom um you asked me because we had a great what a week for mk and you asked me at the airport late last night you know what was the most fun thing we did what was the best thing we did i

gotta say luke you and i the post canelo weigh-in show and this doesn't really answer this question but you get my point here yeah sitting down with nba great paul pierce and doing a 26 minute reaction to the weigh-in interview on paul's life and career look that was some fun shit in a week in which we did tons of fun shit including thanks to our good friend andreas hale for joining us in the mgm lobby for the res for the uh pre-game preview it was fun welcome to the showtime extended family paul pierce we hope to get to mix it up with him. He legitimately knows boxing. He's been to so many fights at ringside.

So for us, professionally, that was it. As a fight fan, the best moment of the weekend, Luke, was round one of Gaethje and Chandler. I mean, that's one of the – I mean, you had Teddy Atlas on with what? Was it Jose Young's afterwards in MMA fighting at MSG saying, I feel like I was in Manila. I feel like it was all Ian Frazier. Okay. Slow your roll here, Teddy. Yet with that hyperbole said that was some special shit, Luke. That's why we do this. That's

why we, that's why we, that's why we do this shit, Luke. Okay? That's why we put up with all those UFC fight night cards on FS1 that don't start until 10 p.m. Eastern, and there's six fights on them for moments like this, Luke, okay? I'm going to say... You old bitch. Yes. I'm going to say favorite moment, honestly, was the first time Caleb Plant touched the canvas

because I was waiting for it, I was waiting for it, I was the first time Caleb Plant touched the canvas because I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. I know anytime we answer like in the affirmative of something related to Showtime over MMA, our fans think that we're like doing that, you know, inorganically, like we're doing it, you know, Stockholm syndrome wise. But honestly, no, dude, Canelo is such a special fighter. Canelo, even though I took a big boxing break, he was one of the fighters I covered years and years ago. BC and I met, as a matter of fact, at Canelo vs. Mayweather. So that's one of the few guys I could say that's been a consistent threat,

even as I was an MMA fan and MMA editor, unable to really sink my teeth into boxing. And just to finally watch him get Plant to put his gloves on the mat the mat was yeah i i was i was blown away right at first so quite quite quite cool to see that um hey hey luke on our credential that you and i got for covering this fight they had a picture they put a picture they used the picture that i took in 2013 at mayweather canelo as my... Yes, same for me. Can we zoom in here, team? Look at this. Look at this.

Back it up a little bit. Back it up a little bit. Back it up a little bit. Look at this. I was 35 then, Luke. I look like I was about 15, right? You look like someone who's into choking people for erotic pleasures you're you're you had no gray back then luke i know i mean can you believe how i've gone i've gone gray like it's a contest

you know they sell things that you can put in your hair like black shoe polish that you can yeah i can't wait to copy the uh wonderful precedent you've set by taking permanent marker and just... All right, let's see. From Nalaka. Since Dana said he thinks Usman is on track to becoming the GOAT, what are his next career moves to actually enter the GOAT conversation? Also, BC, what if Izzy loses the title? I don't know that he will, but let's say that he does.

That could change Usman's equation about going up to 185. From what you've seen from Usman, do you think, regardless of who holds the title, that he's a threat to win the middleweight title should he decide to move up? Yes. Okay, okay, okay. A threat.

Not by no means a foregone conclusion, but a threat. Who would you like to see him defend the UFC welterweight title against in the next 18 months? Kamaru? I would say I'm not that high on Leon's chances, frankly. I know some folks, your mileage may vary, but that's probably the right thing to do. So I'd say Leon. Let me pull up the rankings here. I mean, obviously Hamzat

We're all going to say that I was surprised In the next 18 months? Yeah maybe I was genuinely surprised that Dana is shooting this down In fact he was kind of making fun of media members Who had said that Luke Yeah so I'd probably go

Edwards, Luque, Hamzat Something like that You don't see somebody in that top 15 Like a Sean Brady muslim solikov making some kind of run here i do like sean brady a lot he's a fucking amazing fighter but he's sitting at 14 he's got work to do right it's not saying he couldn't be that but he's got some work to do before we can declare that you know he's going to be fighting for a title but yeah once wonder boy burns might get a rematch that

could be interesting right what about wonder boy or michael kiesa they haven't fought him they could slide in i don't i'm kiesa to me dark horse candidate but possible wonder boy no chance he just lost his last one i think they're just gonna wait him out he's not gonna he's not gonna get back there are you trying to call him an old bitch, Luke? No, that's you being disrespectful. That's me being reasonable. All right, from at Philly underscore Dent. Do you think we're about to see Colby drop his shtick either completely or to a lesser degree after showing Usman some respect after the fight?

Fuck no. What are people talking about? I don't understand. Like, oh, is he going to have to change his shtick? Okay, he took the fucking made in America or whatever the fuck it is, MAGA hat off, but he's still doing the same nerds and virgins shit he always did. And by the way, BC, as we indicated, it appears to be at least on some level working. Yeah, it is.

And, you know, he's also leaning heavy into the first responders, military, which he has in the past. But if he, like, again, with some subtle nuances in this, he can still be effusive, as you say, in the right situation, but against the right opponents, bring in more cheers. It's going to have to be a subtle, you know, heel-to-face turn, and you can be an aggressive face under pro wrestling terms. You can be a Stone Cold Steve Austin. terms you could be a stone cold steve

austin you can act like a badass but still get the cheers i wonder if cole do you lucas would you be surprised if a year from now colby is getting more more cheers than booze in every situation no i would not be surprised at all okay Okay. Who would you like to see? Even though what he does is completely odious and awful and that people who cheer lead that are fucking deranged. But aside from that, do I think it will work with the existing fan base? Or at least I should say portions of it? Yeah, I think it will.

Let's say Usman hangs on to the belt. Who do you want Colby to fight? Do you think he goes out of his weight class to try to set up some grudge match pay-per-views? I would like to see two tough fights for him. Two tough ones, right? Two times he gets pushed a little bit. Jorge Masvidal seems like that's a grudge match

you could make some money on, and Jorge probably knows his game to a degree, and so that one. And then after that, I think the Gilbert Burns fight, dude. Gilbert Burns, he might have something to say about Colby being number two in that division. You know, maybe Kamaru's just a guy and none of his contemporaries can do anything about that. But Gilbert Burns versus Colby, that one is interesting because Burns' submission threat, his wrestling ability, his striking ability, overall his great gas tank. Dude, he's a fucking tough customer, man.

So I like that fight. I like that fight a lot. What about Colby versus Nate? Who wants to see Nate get beat up that bad? No, I don't want that. I don't want that shit. This is not that interesting. All right.

From at Abu underscore Sasha underscore Camila. That's our guy, Sasha. That's our guy. That's our guy, Luke. That's our guy, Leo. Yeah, Lee. That's our guy, Lee. Chandler was a beast in that loss. Where does this rank in the list of all-time losses that might have increased a fighter's stock? Now, that's the Diaz special right there.

What do you think, BC? Yeah, that's a fair point right there. No one's saying anything bad about Chandler. That's what you get when you fight like that and you come so close to beating elites. Luke, what are some of the best moral victories in elite-level UFC recent history? I mean, you want against Whaley?

That's a big one. Nate against Leon Edwards is a big one. You could do... I'm trying to think of some other ones along the way. They were just commendable losses. Romero against Costa. That's a great one. That's a good one for sure.

Yeah, something like that. It would take me a while to go through it all. But yes, those are some great choices. And then last but not least, BC. Yeah, something like that. I mean, it would take me a while to sort of go through it all, but yes, those are some great choices. And then last but not least, BC, this one's just for you. From Mishbind, what happens to the five wheel of death options that we never get to hear each week? Wow. You want to see what happens behind the curtain?

You want to see that little man turning the wheels here? You know, Luke, there's 10 options each week. Luke gets five spins and you get what you get. Sometimes they get repurposed again, Luke. Sometimes they disappear forever if they were timely in that moment. People don't really want to know how this shit works, do they, Luke? Do you actually have questions for every topic? is it are you trying to to imply that the wheel is rigged this one's iron this like i i don't play if this don't get you this one wheel

yeah i don't play video poker i don't trust those computers luke you know what i'm saying you don't trust the dominion voting machines? No, no. I only vote on paper with a pencil, like a Scantron. Remember those Scantron tests we used to have to take in the 80s? We have phoned in the DMs. Scantron. Remember that shit, Luke? Scantron. Dude, we had a friend who was so good at those tests, we used to call him Scantron. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Did he pay for sex like most of your friends, Luke? No, he actually was one of the few that didn't, believe it or not. But, dude, I have so many friends who have hired prostitutes. It's unbelievable. Wow, that's great, Luke. Please share that more often. That's great. Hey, most of them were active-duty military when they did.

So everyone's like, support the troops. I'm like, even the ones that pay for hookers? Even those ones? All right, anyway. Okay, BC, that's it for us on DMs from Donks. It's now time for your bullshit. We got a good one here, okay? You know what we do in these parts.

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Yes, you are. Shout out to Gaffney Pierre, our fine producer, for compiling all this shit and putting it in order for me. UFC 268 and NYC. Luke, you're going to get to it on extra credit, but let's have a look at it quick. Two-division glory champ Alex Padeta did not get Gokhan Saki'd, Luke. He delivered the boom to this. Is that a Polish fella?

Mikulitis? Greek, I believe. Greek, yes. Luke, that's a hell of a finish. No one's talking about it because that card was so. Luke, that's a hell of a finish. No one's talking about it because that card was so amazing, but that's a hell of a finish. And this was the main event of the prelim, so Pineda doing everything the UFC could have wanted

and then some great debut. That's what happens when you train with Glover, baby. Okay, another Connecticut guy, Pineda, right? I'm compiling a Factory Town MMA team right now in Connecticut, Luke. Yeah, yeah, you are. I i have to admit that's pretty fun all right a backstage luke real recognizing real you know this hog is going to get me fired up valentina congratulating rose on her victory oh that's great they're training partners and friends and uh just two badasses that's great yeah there's something what their occasional training partners is what you're saying right yeah yeah not all the time not all the time but they definitely have trained together valentina Just two badasses. That's great. They're occasional training partners is what you're saying, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not all the time. Not all the time. But they definitely have trained together. Valentina was there with Halle Berry to promote that new movie. What's it called, Luke? I don't know. This Movie Sucks Ass is what they should just call it. Wow, wow.

Kevin Holland joined the chorus on Twitter backing up the idea that that takedown from Colby that DC went on the record with, he would know he's an Olympian, was a takedown. Luke, I side with them. I side with Kevin Holland. Yeah, I mean, take it up with Fightmetric, who has a very particular measurement of it. Perhaps if you wanted to have a different measurement, you could do that.

But according to the way that records are compiled, no, it's not. Has the nerds at Fightmetric, the nerds and virgins, ever wrestled in the Olympics, Luke? There actually are some guys who wrestle competitively who do work at Fightmetric, yes. Believe it or not. Have they ever rolled with the Foxcatcher guy, Luke? John DuPont. Yes, okay, unless you've done that shit.

Before or after his murder. Before he... Ben Wadd, the U.S. Amateur Association. Oh, God. That's a tough ending. You really are like, hey, man, remember the time that a bunch of people died in that... What was it called? The Holocaust? Yeah, remember that?

Spoiler alert. That movie ends badly. All right, Luke. This was a great moment. Chandler's List is not a romantic comedy. People fucking oversold that. I'm like, yeah, that's not a romantic comedy at all. One of the better moments in Chandler Gaethje was this piece of business luke i well this is when i popped this

is when i got fired up same reason that's not a takedown he just comes up on now that would be something of a i don't know if they would call that a takedown depending how you want to word it but chandler picks him up and drops him but never establishes control and it came at a moment round three where you're waiting for Chandler to get knocked out, and out of nowhere he's got this surge of energy to slam him, and Gaethje rolling through it. Good shit, Luke. I love this type of stuff. Great fight. Great fight.

All right, let's see Bobby Green's entrance into the cage. Colby came in and did a somersault, but about an hour before, did you see Bobby Green's entrance? He always does this. I love it, Luke. I love that shit. Dude, Bobby Green looked fucking awesome against Al Iacquinto. Really, really.

I know Al was off for a long time or whatever, but Bobby Green looked good. Yeah, tough night for those Long Islanders, Luke. More to come on that. Let's go over to Ireland's Ian Gary, who talked a big game after this, Luke, in the interview, kind of called himself the next Conor, but he's much more polite about it. How do you think about the finish here? Yeah, I mean, the guy was just lunging forward, swinging wide hooks.

Gary took a step back and then just budged over the top. It's great. Great recognition, great accuracy, great distance management. There he is, fainting. Watch him take a step back at an angle. Another one. Pops it. Takes a step half back.

Right there. Boom. If you want to know if this guy's for real watch mk extra credit later today i'm sure it's going to be entertaining probably maybe it will be possibly all right all the things it will be all the things that you hate about people who watch mk for analysis it will be all very true very true you you guys put the anal and analysis very well. All right, it's time for a Chris Barnett appreciation post here from UFC 268. Let's start with his walk to the cage, Luke. Dude, this fat man is my fucking hero. Look at this guy.

He shows up to weddings. He shows up to weddings and outdances every group. Oh, he will eat all the cake. He'll take all the women. Look at this guy. He knows how to partay. People will say that. Know me.

Hey, BCc you're always criticizing um michelle pedeta and johnny walker for using all their gas tank dancing to the cage how come you're not uh criticizing this guy because because this guy's too fun luke this guy's intoxicatingly fun all right he's just got a great attitude and also he knows how to finish in john volante's final ufc fight in which it didn't look like he trained for Good lord Luke spinning wheel kick from a fat guy I'm not sure if it was spinning wheel or spinning heel, but either way They look at this windmill and watch this celebration. I've never seen that before

Dude he's the best he's the fuck he's so athletic for being a big old fat guy. That's incredible. Dude, he's the best. He's the fun. He's so athletic for being a big old fat guy. He's the best. Dude, when he landed on his ass, he did like the double devil horns and did a split. I mean, what a finish. Look at that guy going nuts in the crowd. All right.

We're not done here with one Chris Barnett. Let's check out his celebration dance after the win now luke i don't have another video but he would go on to celebrate walking by the media tables he just basically danced the whole way back to the uh locker room dude you know what ryan um ryan jimmo used to have the best robot remember his robots after he would win rest in peace ryan jimmo. Hey, shout out Fat Guys. I love Fat MMA. I love it. All right, let's go to Bellator. Fat heavyweights who are jovial and can dance are the all-time apex predators.

Guys that drink out of shoes love those guys. All right, let's go to Bellator in Dublin. Lightweight Daniel Scatisi with the head kick on Brian Hoy. Hoy, he would go on to take the decision win here. Yeah, that's a great-looking kick right there. Take that shit. All right. Luke, do you know about Turkish heavyweight Gokhan Serikam?

He needed just 15 seconds to send Charlie Milner to hell. Here's all 15 of them. Look at that leg kick. Looking like Lesnar against the damn, what's that guy's name the heath herring look no that went on for three rounds yeah but that first round where he threw the punch and then went with the running tackle on heath herring you know i'm talking about that's what it looked like right here yeah yeah and almost like over tackled him and missed yeah check out this leg strike though that that set him down can we see that one more time, Gaff?

Please? Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say about this. I don't... Oh, we missed it. We missed it. We missed it. All right. Hey, there was a...

Go, Gaff. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Oh, shit. He put that fat dude in peril, Luke. Yeah, he was walking into it, too, which probably fucking hurt. Like, Gaethje Habib right there. All right, Luke, let's go to the Jake Paul press conference in Vegas.

And let's first see Jake's attire to this. Luke, he looked like a Back to the Future space villain from 50 years from now. He looks like the final boss in a straight-to-DVD movie. Or something like he's like the evil boss in like the the next zoolander movie put that back up put that back up look at him i mean he's got some he's got a nice side side piece there luke but well done but that's that's a human being that you can refer to as such you don't have to have a label like that that's very dismissive and uh otherizing but um are you saying she could be his one and only?

Luke, is that what you're saying? I'm just saying the suit was made by the character that Will Ferrell plays in Zoolander. All right, let's hear from Jake. He had an interesting roast of Dana White during this press conference. Doesn't he always? Dana, again, thank you, wherever you are. Thank you for promoting my fights.

You literally tee up every single fight for me perfectly you place bets against me I prove you wrong you try to bring in coaches for my opponents so that they can beat me you're letting Tommy Fury train at the UFC performance institute give it up guy like

give it give it up fight a real boxer when is he going to fight a guy his own age whatever dana white is constantly fucking saying you know i'm doing it i'm doing it and he's mad that i'm doing it because he's a control freak and when he doesn't have his fingers dipped into someone's business he doesn't want to see them succeed and he tries to bring them down but he's not smart enough to realize that every single time he talks about me it just makes my shit grow up look i think he's he's right and i didn't even know about dana offering the pi to tommy fury that's interesting right there yeah yeah he's very right

i mean tommy fury actually i feel like has a decent chance of beating jake uh we'll talk about that in probably the coming weeks to the much to the dismay of our hardcore MMA fan audience but um in all seriousness like I do think Dana White desperately wants Jake to lose and Jake is right to highlight that as a way to sort of stick it to him I mean just like Dana desperately wanted Kimbo and the Elite XC in Strikeforce years to lose, right? Desperately wanted Fedor to lose. Yeah, I think he's right. Luke, but the real MVP, Tommy Fury was unable to attend this due to a family emergency. The real MVP of this press conference turned out to be the comedian Drewski who played the role of Coach D.

Luke, I don't even know if people in this press conference were in on this joke. This was some Andy Kaufman shit with Coach D calling him white boy. And look at the little workout they did. Oh, this is going to be interesting. Excellent drill. look you kind of have to watch the whole press conference to get the full context but i have to say that wasn't funny jake is cringy at times this was hilarious i'm not kidding they were dead panning the entire time this was this was very well done i'll uh i watched it i did not find it nearly as humorous as you, but also I've not been hit in the head repeatedly with a tire iron,

so there is that. Luke, I know comedy, all right? You might be surprised about that. Yes, you have that BDE, that brain damage energy. You might be surprised about that. I know comedy, okay, Luke? All right, let's go back to UFC 2. You are such.

You are just trying to appeal to the minor. I love you, but you are just trying to appeal to the minor you are you you i love you but you are a handful luke i serve all fans okay there's very we have very different variety of fans you're always going after those boring ones who are like you know yeah right hey let's go back to ufc 268 because so much happened luke uh dana did dana pay for a cameo for the Island Boys? Let's hear this bullshit. Hey, you see, oh, Dana, why you better put that boy up in the Adigan? He better get fed, MMA, out of style, yeah. We like out of boxing when you throw up out of hands, yeah.

Throw up a cut, knock him out, knock him down, yeah. Talk about like Dan, why you talking when he down, wow. You don't make a Dana, why you really act so proud, yeah. Get the game winning money, take it really home, yeah Talk about like, damn, why you talking when he down, wow You don't make a damn, why you really act so proud, yeah Get that game winning money, take it really hard, yeah You can do it all, now they truly keep you thrown, yeah Best auto fighter, other century better fight, yeah Talk about okay, make that jiggy really tight, yeah Knock him out, knock him out, left and get right, yeah

Talk about, talk about, knock him every night, yeah And Vinny just a thought just some strikes yeah you better throw a kind of punch and knock him out man then a white kill just one chance one shot one shot he just wanna be in the ufc man so you put it up in his chin and man be shot too man okay that's enough, that's enough, Gaff. That's enough. End this shit already, all right? Luke, do you think our MMA fans of the show hate more when we talk about Jake Paul or when we play the Island Boys, Luke? Where's a drive-by shooting when you need one? Jesus.

Luke, will any chance these guys become the next STEM? Where, like, UFC brass doesn't realize how lame they are and makes them the Fight Island boys and their theme song plays before. I don't even know what language they were speaking. What was that? It wasn't English. Hey, speaking of Dana, Luke, even Canelo laughed about this. Dana White watching Canelo plant from cage side at MSG later claiming he bet 100K on a knockout.

Well, he got that knockout, Luke. Listen, everyone wants to grill Dana for watching Canelo at the UFC event, but Dana, you gotta remember something. There's plenty of things you can criticize Dana over. It's not very hard. But honestly, this one, you're stupid rich.

You had paid, you had bet a pretty fucking significant bet on Canelo. He's a, dude, at the end of the day, Dana White can say whatever he wants. He is a boxing hardcore. He is. He is. You have to give it to him. He's a boxing hardcore.

There was no fucking way he was going to miss that fight. Not a chance. So, like, everyone was kind of groaning for it because you've got UFC right in front of you. But, like, that's just who Dana is, man. I kind of get it actually he respects Canelo and I like that he said like enough of this Usman versus Canelo he was asked about it afterwards he obviously took a shot at

Steven Espinosa the head of Showtime Sports whatever because those two obviously are battled he went out of his way to not say one bad thing about Canelo and even said I like Canelo a lot like dude it's the number one pound for pound boxer in the sport. Dana White's a hardcore boxing fan.

I expected that. Luke, backstage at MSG, check out this piece of business caught on camera. Francis Ngannou snubs Cyril Ghosn as he walks by. I mean, what do you want him to say? Yo, dap him up and be like, what's up? Yeah, I do. I do. How's my old coach doing?

Yeah. Nah. He's got to fight these guys in two months' time. No, that's fine. That's fine. I'm down with that. That's cool. One more.

We talk about the jamokes who make up the MMA media these days, Luke. Here's one that got a press pass to the press conference on Thursday. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I mean, this is the house that the UFC's media policies have built, basically. Shout out to Mike Bone, who took time away from... I don't know if they like this or not, but this is exactly what they have earned themselves by virtue of how they have handled media.

Mike Bone took time away from getting a third base on an airplane to put that picture out for people to see. So thank you very much, Mike. All right, Canelo. I mean, Canelo, good God. Conor McGregor began his training yesterday, Luke, for his upcoming celebrity wheelchair boxing match with impersonator Al Foran. Real excited to get in and have some fun. Bust the eyeball of the celebrity impersonator.

Al, you can be Pacino, Joe Pesci, even Big Ty Fury, but you're still just Fat Al from Talagat to me. Luke, there's something cringe about this picture. Like, okay, cool, I like supporting charity, but is he really going through with this? This is kind of lame. I'm still upset we had to watch the Island Boys.

I don't really have much of a comment about this. Let's keep it going. Top-ranked boxing was in Las Vegas on Friday night. Luke, the opening bout, super middleweight. His name is Rowdy Legend Montgomery. Oh, my God. He sent this guy to hell, Luke. It was weird because the guy must have fallen right near one of the corner microphones.

So you can hear him through his mouthpiece go, it's actually a little bit disarming. It was bad. Speaking of McGregor, you can see that's the guy who went down. Lots of McGregors getting KO'd these days. Yeah, the guy's name is Rowdy Legend Montgomery, who delivered that blow in the opening bout. Shout out.

Luke, I am being told by many in the boxing game that we need to look out for 17-year-old lightweight Abdullah Mason who made his pro debut on the undercard on Friday getting a second round TKO. I believe he's from Cleveland. Luke, they're saying this guy's the real. Cleveland is the city

where we come from, so run, run, run, boom, over the top. I mean, he's not fighting the world's best here, but. No, but keep that name close to your heart there, Abdullah Mason, just 17 years old. And Luke, Sean Porter was on the top-ranked broadcast on Friday because, of course, he'll be fighting Terrence Crawford on an ESPN pay-per-view.

And they caught him napping. Let's hear this audio. Oh! they caught him napping. Let's hear this audio. I know you fucking lied. He had to wipe the drool. Bro, that's me when... BC, this is me when the lady comes through the plane with the cart to give you water water or you know

soda or whatever that's me waking up being like yes i'll have i'll have a glass of water uh in my boy i know i'm doing my boy sean porter dirty here but uh he's working hard so he's exhausted luke ahead of this uh to build to this i believe november 20th him and terrence crawford very good title fight in the welterweight division also this main event luke mckayla mayor went in there against maiva mama douche and they put on a 10 round war this sequence you're watching here was basically every round this was a hell of a fight it was a wide decision win for mckayla mayor but luke um i talked to actually two of the judges who scored that, and they said, look, it was a great fight, but one fighter was getting

the better of the action, and I think Michaela Mayer made a leap here, Luke. She's not known as a brawler or a big puncher. She had to dig into the phone booth and win this shit. This was fun. She earned it, but her opponent had next to, I mean, what's the number lower than zero? Whatever that is, I get

negative one and below, but I'm just saying zero head movement. Oh yeah. She was there to brawl. There's no question. And, uh, you know, I, I do regret, you know, I was like, Hey, look, there's a top rank card on Friday. You're like, should we go to it? I was like, see at the Waterbury open.

And, uh, you know, I kind of wish I was ringside for this now, Luke, you know? Yeah. Well, eat shit guy. It was your call. All right, last Tuesday, the Dana White Contender Series gave us the rare double low blow. You see this shit, Luke? I did not. I missed this.

Look it. The screen on the right shows the aftermath. The screen on the left shows the carnage happening in front of you. Yikes. Just when you think you've seen it all, testicle mangling really is, it's in its infancy in stages of MMA.

Well, Luke, just when you think you've seen it all in MMA, there's a promotion called Fight Circus, which does some weird shit. They had their third pay-per-view this weekend, debuting Siamese kickboxing. Your thoughts? Are these the Island Boys? This island boys this is this is um yeah this is uh something here luke there was also a polish promotion that did a intergender match did you see that got a lot

of criticism for it i did yeah they other parts of the world they just don't give a fuck about human life no no no you'll you'll shoot your eye out. And speaking of that, Luke, Michael Bisping did something really gross on this UFC preview show. He's done it before. You want to see a man take his eye out, Luke? Is this his party trick where he takes his eyeball out? Oh, yikes. I'm an eyeball boy. You know, I certainly respect everything about Bisping,

the toughness, the ability to fight with one eye and not tell anybody, but my grandfather used to take his false teeth out, Luke, and scare us. It reminds me of that. You know, at some point I'd be like, Grandpa, this is going to ruin our relationship if you keep doing this to me, you know? That and, you know, other things he was doing to you. You know what I'm saying? Oh, wow. Wow, Luke.

What do you have against Lithuanians? Taking you to the park. Jesus, get your mind out of the gutter, you disgusting person. To the splash pad with the Thomases. All right, Luke. Jan Blachowicz may have lost the UFC light heavyweight title, but he's the star of an upcoming Polish action movie. Check out this trailer, Luke.

I have to bring legendary Polish power to other parts of Poland. Pit bull. See it. Theatres. I have to tell you, I've been to Poland. Maybe the nicest people in Europe.

Maybe. It's debatable, but they're up there. I did talk to a prominent member of the Polish media this weekend, Luke, who said Jan told him for the loss to Glover, but they're up there. I did talk to a prominent member of the Polish media this weekend, Luke, who said Jan told him for the loss to Glover, he just woke up and he knew he was going to lose. It was just one of those off days. He said if it was training camp, he would have not sparred that day.

Like it was one of those days where he just woke up and he just didn't have it. Well, it happens. I believe that, actually. Luke, we made a few jokes before about justin gaethje's leg striking ability oh bc you keeping this uh conspiracy theory moving you know you're you're a big you're a big weirdo hey i respect brendan fitzgerald a lot luke i think he actually watches this show what do you think about this tweet luke can we blow this up yeah i like fitzy but uh you

both are on drugs. We talk a lot about how close Chandler was to winning the lightweight title. In my opinion, Gaethje was another leg kick or two from severely damaging Habib in winning it last year. Luke, the only word he didn't use was peril, because that's how close Habib came to losing the title. Hey, Brendan Fitzgerald, sir. Okay.

I do like Fitz. He's a phenomenal commentator and a great addition to the MMA family. He gets it. You both have done bong hits together. He sees through the bullshit. He gets it. Thank you. All right.

Let's go over to the Canelo undercard. PBC in Vegas here. Anthony Durrell on the co-main event. Luke against Journeyman. Oh, this was. This was. I mean, what a fucking shot this was. card pbc in vegas here anthony durell on the co-main event luke against journeyman was this was i mean what a fucking shot this was uh durell even had the opponent clapping on the mat i mean this uppercut was was just perfect just i had an mma fan write me and be like justin's was better on michael chandler i'm like are you out of your fucking mind? They're not even nearly as good. Bob,

look at that shit. How about the dog doing the backflip at age 37? Luke, he said he wants Canelo. He's probably not going to get Canelo, but I think there's still some big fights for him. I'd like to see him against Caleb Plant, to be honest. He said, well, what he said was Darrell says Canelo or retirement.

I'm like, well, you might want to get the retirement speech ready. All right. Hey, Luke, check out this person who won Halloween by dressing up as their favorite UFC fighter, Kay Hanson. I don't know. Who is the person on the left? The person on the left is the gentleman who dressed up as his favorite UFC fighter. As Mike Goldberg would say, Luke, virtually identical.

Yeah, yeah. That's a big tattoo she has. Yes, yes. Is it the Statue of Liberty with the American flag behind? I think she just launched an OnlyFans, Luke. I'm not into that stuff, so I don't know, but I think I read that on Twitter. Yeah, you're totally not into that at all. You definitely don't think that's fun.

Oscar De La Ha went out to see the fights on saturday he may no longer be representing canelo alvarez but luke look at what he's representing can we zoom in here is that a dress luke no what no wonder that man is so happy yeah i'd be that if if that was your date you'd have the exact same expression only your pants would be around your ankles uh luke last night at like 11 o'clock you and i saw jared swift heard at the baggage pickup at the washington reagan national airport but he's starting a little bit of a potential feud here with one jermell charlo let's watch this video to see how it started on social media. What's up, y'all out here?

Houston, Texas, about to go to Kroger's. Anybody out here in Houston can help me look for the meat market that the Chalos go to. Let me know also help me out with the rules they take it up lost a mother fucking what he said was a champion he in my city heard he was trying to train I gotta be like the Sharlows I gotta figure out what the fuck kind of steak

they eat from a GB then we got a GB and in the Kroger's nigga ain't no Walmart Walmart meeting what we eat, nigga. Fuck wrong with you, nigga. We eat shit from the meat market. Apologies for the N-word, Luke, but what Swift had said was, I'm going to Kroger's.

Can someone help me find the meat that the Charlos eat and maybe the drugs that they take, too, in saying PED use. So Jermell just fired back. Luke, they saw each other at Canelo plant, and we almost had a little bit of business here. Let's go to the videotape.

All right. Kev? Yeah, all right. That's Swift in the green hat, and that's Jermell. Oh, he got right in his face. Jermell's in the red. Jermall is in the white hat. Can we blow this up and watch it again?

So for folks who don't know, Jermall would be the bigger of the two, the one that would be in Hurd's weight category. So Swift tried to slap Jermell, and Jermall got in the way, and we almost went to fisticuffs, Luke. This was interesting. That crowd was rowdy, bro. They were rowdy. So the same night, Jermall was asked by a reporter

what he thought about Canelo's performance. Here's his response. Here's Jermall, Charlie. Here's Jermall. Look at that glare right there. Golly, dude. Dude, the Charlos are always like... Here's the thing. I actually like both Charlo brothers.

I think they're very good boxers. I loved covering that doubleheader. I thought that was a great event for both main events. I mean that sincerely. But, dude, they're always acting like someone has done them wrong. Always, always got a chip on their shoulder. Monster chips, and that's what I love about them because they're always intense, always ready.

Always, dude. It's always game seven. It's always game seven. It's always game seven with them. By the way, I'd love to see Swift Hurd, who's coming off a rough loss against Jermell Charlo, who that'd be interesting. I don't know if Swift needs to win one first, but I'd love to see that

two elites go at it there. I think Swift needs to get right after that terrible performance he had at the Logan Mayweather. You're not wrong there, Luke. One more piece of shit for you, Luke. You know, anytime the punch machine's involved, you know you're going to end up on this show. Oh, no, don't stand next to the punch machine.

Oh, can we zoom in on that? That's a, wow. Who are these people that like to stand next to, look at her, look at the hook. Bop. Hooked it all the way back to the chesticle. Put a little tattoo on Titi right there, Luke. Look at that.

Ouch. Yeah, wow. Okay. Yeah. I think they call it the silicone smash, Luke. The silicone smash. All right, BC, is that it for your shit? Yeah, that's it.

I had a lot of shit this week. I hope you enjoyed it. Time for odds and ends. What do you got for odds and or ends? I don't really All right, BC. Is that it for your shit? Yeah, that's it. I had a lot of shit this week. I hope you enjoyed it. Time for odds and ends. What do you got for odds and or ends? I don't really have one, Luke. I kind of broke it all. I kind of got to it all already. So what do you got, Luke?

All right. Okay. So I will have mine. Let me pull up my notes here. Sorry about that. For my odds and ends, Cedric Dumbay. Do you know that name, BC? Do not know that name.

Cedric Dumbay you know that name bc do not know that name cedric dumbe is uh french by the way but he is one of the best kickboxers on earth uh and he actually made his mma that i think mma debut yes uh the first of november so it was kind of earlier in the week and it got lost but i want to make sure we brought it up. He fought some dude named Arby Amiev, who was like two and two or whatever, at Super Combat Universe in Dubai, and he smoked him at four minutes and 40 seconds of the first round. A guy who you might ask, like, what has Doombay done in glory? A lot.

He's got wins over Kareem Ghaji, Myrtle Grunhardt. The Nicky Holtz skin twice. He has wins over him. Brad Riddell, who's in the UFC. He's got a win over Brad Riddell as well. Split decision one, but he got it just the same. He is an absolutely phenomenal talent. And he has finally, by the way, he's only 29 and he's making his way into MMA. The thing with Alex Pereira, BC, is he's, I mean, is he good?

He's obviously fucking awesome, but he's 34. So Chandler was 34, but Chandler was just changing organizations not really sports and I know that before this UFC debut Alex Pereira had a handful of other fights and had done quite well for the most part but in the case of Dumbay he's starting sort of fresh but he's 29 he's got some real time to get good his takedown defense look pretty good by the way all things considered like i don't know how good he's going to be in mma bc but when you get a a kickboxer the caliber of this guy heading over to mma um you take note so keep keep in mind cedric dumbe tough tough guy i will be on the lookout for that name just like 17 year old abdullah mason i hear he's, Luke, so we'll find out.

Yeah, I don't have any odds or ends, but we had a great time, Luke, you and I. What a week. What a week it was for you. You were there for two different weekends. I was there just for the half or two-thirds of the week. I was there for a special project. Hopefully, I'll get to announce. Dude, that was a great weekend, man.

That was a great week for us. I thought we did a lot trying to serve a couple different masters, you know, the Canelo fight plus the UFC fight. I thought we did the best we could. a couple different masters. The Canelo fight plus the UFC fight, I thought we did the best we could. It seems like the people who got it, got it. We were on the scene, crispy and clean for the big moments. Showtime trusted us, Luke. We didn't say that

Q word that you often get in trouble for at all during any of those shows. That's great. We did not. We managed to keep it, for the most part, pretty clean. I just want to say thanks to everyone who watched. For our new subscribers, we appreciate you joining us. We'll do this three times a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 11 a.m. in the East. Again, for all the fights that we didn't get to, Pereira, Edgar, Gary, the whole nine yards,

MK Extra Credit will be up around 5 p.m. or so, and we'll have all of that analysis there. So we're not done yet. Can you address this situation? There were a lot of people who really enjoyed our fight companion, so to speak, Saturday night. We'll have all of that analysis there. We're not done yet. Can you address this situation? There were a lot of people who really enjoyed our fight companion, so to speak, Saturday night, of watching the co-main event and main event of the UFC card in real time for us after the fact. And they're going, this is what we always wanted.

I get the other half didn't like it. The problem is we really can't ever do that in real time because both of us are covering it for, you know, CBS Sports dot com or CBS. And also, dude, like I just wasn't making sound judgments. I need like a little bit of space and time to watch it and absorb it and think about it. Then I need to take notes to remember, you know, what happened in the round, you know, before. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. All right.

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Gift cards, gift cards is a thing you can start buying. So, if you want to get it, if you're a woman who watches this probably the handful of you and you don't want to get something for your significant other uh get them a gift card get them a gift card you can do that morning combat dot store it is possible uh let's see showtime showtime.com go to get go to showtime.com get a 30-day free trial if you like it you can keep it if, you can pound sand. And morningcombatatgmail.com is the place to email us for Wednesdays, fan subs, and Fridays, dead wrong. BC, what am I missing? Anything else? I want to shout out to the Contenders Clothing brand. We got to go to their pop-up store in Vegas this weekend.

Luke, you may not be into the boxers, so to speak, but they got all of it. They got Rocky. They got Kar got karate kid i got this nice hat here they we got some nice shit from them big fan of their their stuff as always shout out to our boy chris jay over there um buy our merch buy their merch all right that's it that's it um okay so that's it i think wait for extra credit that will be out a little bit later today and um i'm waiting for extra sleep luke that's what i'm waiting yeah you've earned it you've earned it you've earned it so leave us a five-star review on apple podcast help us scam the algorithm and yeah i do i just want to say

one more time i want to thank everyone from mulca i want to thank our producer mikey from cbs all the fans who watched everybody else it was a really strong week in las vegas we did a lot of planning a lot of execution we needed a little bit of luck, and we got it, too, and everything else just kind of played out. So very happy with what we were able to do. Maniche was clutch this past week, okay? Gaff is here now. He's always clutch.

Those vaping cameramen, very clutch. Love our team here, Luke, okay? Love our team. I kind of think we should do like a MK Survivor reality show where we, you know, every week we end up voting one staff member off and they lose their job and stuff but they get like a nice close up and we'll, you know,

they have to try to compete for it and shit, you know? Yeah, I'm not really listening. Okay, for Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. I had to just shit on you at the end. I'm so sorry. I'm so washed. Luke, I'm so gross right now.

Smell this, Luke. Just try to smell this. I know what state you're in, you absolute fucking sow. Just smell this shit, Luke. It's so gross. For Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks to everyone who made the last week possible, but the new week begins.

We'll see you on Wednesday. I'll see you later on Extra Credit. Until then, may all of your gains be loyal.