MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Chimaev Dominates DDP, Lerone Murphy KOs Pico | Full UFC 319 Results + Recap

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

UFC 319 is in the books and BC and LT open the show by going over Khamzat Chimaev's commanding win over Dricus Du Plessis. How impressed were the fellas with Chimaev's performance? Where does this lea...ve DDP and where does this win rank in all-time dominating wins? Up next, Lerone Murphy viciously KO'd Aaron Pico in the first round to score the biggest win of his career. How much does a win like this do for Murphy's promotional development? Plus the fellas go over the rest of the card, including: Carlos Prates' stoppage of Geoff Neal in the first round, MVP's win over Jared Cannonier and Tim Elliott keeping it loose en route to a submission victory over the hard hitting Kai Asakura. Happy Morning Kombat Monday, Donks! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Revely, Revely. Look at us now, tip to tip. Oh, Jesus. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Do you want a margarita? My God. It's us doing what we love.
Starting point is 00:00:35 It's time to bang. Oh, yeah, the Chimaev era is upon us. Welcome on into morning combat here to break down all things. UFC 319 on this Monday, August 18th of the 25s, Brian Campbell from CT fame. And of course, from the nation's capital. who's ready to join the National Guard and turn on his own people. It's Luke Thomas. My own, I support my own people, but I'm ready to turn on everybody else.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Okay, okay. Shout out to that, just the same. We're going to have a great show for you today. Not only recapping, of course, what went down in the windy city on Saturday as the middleweight title changed hands. Aaron Pico got killed. Not exactly Hendo Huah. No, not exactly Hendo Huah.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I mean, Pico tried for that finish, but man, oh, my God. The cigarettes are back in style. also we'll look back at 20-year-old heavyweights Moses Atama's dismantling of Dillian White in one round, dude, holy shit. Dude. Did he, did he, did Dillion White? I'm serious question. Did he land a punch? Maybe a jab. I didn't, I mean, I didn't see really anything of significance.
Starting point is 00:01:43 And we'll get into that and more. Also, we'll take your DMs. We'll go through my shit to check for kernels. And yeah, we're going to have a good time today. So why don't you please like and subscribe to what's going on here at the M2. Those are our social handles. You can check out our extended personal YouTube channels as well, including that of our producer, director, and co-host of the main card minute.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Where would we be, LT, without that horned awesy? You know what I mean? Without that man who just lusted after them fine American women to produce this man, Luke Nocita. Okay, that was probably a little too far. Yeah, that was a little too much, guys. But great time. You guys joined me for prop quiz this week.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Got a lot of good feedback on it. if anyone hasn't seen. Yeah, you know, but don't forget who's the defending champion. Stop, stop the steel, is what I have to say. Stop the steel. Are you going to Jan 6th the next episode? We're going to Jan 6th. How's your girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:02:38 I know you don't know. She's great, you know. All right, that's aggressive. Long Island, look, thank you for joining us today. Just one word to describe what we saw in that main event, please. Domination. There you go. Yeah, that's one word.
Starting point is 00:02:51 The nation. I would have picked a different one. Yeah, I'm so fired up to talk about that. also we have a great line of merchandise that is available for you at morningcombat. Dot shop. The August exclusives, there are a few left. Not many though. We're down to two autographed posters
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Starting point is 00:03:21 adding more evergreen content. Don't forget you can customize the colors. to your exact wishes. So, Luke, I got a lot of orange t-shirts already to match my orange wallet, my orange car. That's right. You can take that to Lilith Fair. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, I mean, did you, like, if there's one Lilith Fair act that you had to publicly vouch for, like, which one is it?
Starting point is 00:03:42 I mean. I'm not sure who played at Lilith Fair. Jewel? Come on. I'll stand by Jewel. Yeah, sure. Jewel. I mean, but like.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Snagletooth McGee? Like McLaughlin and the. Sarah McLaughlin? I mean, the arms of an angel? Now, I'm good on that. I mean, so, I mean, look. I was ready to build a mystery with her. There was a point where I was in.
Starting point is 00:03:57 But I'm just saying in general... Who was the one who didn't shave her pits who had the mummers dance? What was her name? I don't know. Both Indigo girls? I don't know. I don't know if it was my scene overall,
Starting point is 00:04:07 but I watched a lot of MTV content surrounding it. Luke, did you have a nice weekend or was your weekend dominated by the fights? Dominated by the fights, but I had a nice weekend. We had some fun with a Tewkster. Went to the Arlington Fair. It was a good time. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I saw my friend bought it a house and moved in and I did a housewarming or went to his housewarming party yesterday. What do you bring for that? Do you bring wine? Yeah, some wine and some cheese. I don't know if anybody had any of it except me, but... Did you cut any silently as you walk through their kitchen? Did I cut any silently? The first thing I did after I walk in was took a dump
Starting point is 00:04:37 in his house. I had to christen that boat. Is that how a man marks his territory in the 25s? There we go. I'm not running the fan either. I'm letting that one. No courtesy flushes when you're on the road. Speaking of cranberries, I'm going to let it linger, you understand? God. God, Lord, that zombie ass. Wow. By the way, I've got my death liquid here today.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, I mean, do you lose? What do you think you lose from drinking that? A day at the end? At least a day off your life. This is the Barry Power Bomb, which I guess is a WBE-infused or co-promoted. It tastes like the backside of BC's Nutsack. It is.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Come drink my payload to juice. It is right there. It's called C-4. It'll kill you. Also, Luke, yesterday. That is so bad. I was in the city, so I went to the IMAX theater and saw The Grateful Dead movie, that 1974 going away concert?
Starting point is 00:05:28 I bet you were sober as shit, huh? Funny enough, my ticket was for seat number eight. You know what I mean? It was out of propos, but I will tell you that, wow, wow, wow, okay? Why were you in the city? Those that, no, I worked in Stanford Saturday. Oh, right, okay. Covering at the CBS Sports Studio, so I have to assume that UFC is going to be in my life moving.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Seems that way. Seems that there's the direction that it's headed, so we'll see where that takes us. Let's take us into the recap of this show, and let's get into the first topic right now. Hey, UFC 319 in Shikagi didn't give us the fight of the year like we might have thought in this fantastic on-paper matchup for the middleweight championship that on the way out, we talked about Chameh's dominance. There's also this growing minority of, man, how boring was that? We'll get into all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:16 But first and foremost, Tom Zat Chimayev controlled and physically dominated Drekas duplacy in route to unanimous decision, 50. to 44 on all three judges' scorecards, round three, a 10-8 round as he opened up a cut over the eye of DDP. I don't know if I've seen someone dominated exactly like this, this thoroughly in a title fight. You know, we've seen quick knockouts, but this was a different story. Luke, how impressive or how impressed should we be by this complete dismantling of a pound-for-pound
Starting point is 00:06:51 top fiver who was nine and no. in the UFC and just beating four straight current and former champions. I think if you lose this bad, I don't know if you should still be in the top 10 pound for pound. Can I be honest about that? The old Crawford Spence Bay, right?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Well, I mean, he lost 50-44 across the board. Should you really be pound for pound if you're losing 50-40? Like, no one should be able to beat you. I dropped him from 4 to 10. No, 5 to 10, number 5 to 10. Because I did the same thing with Pereira. I'm like, look at the run they had.
Starting point is 00:07:20 This was a bad performance. Maybe now for Pereer, we go, well, he was kind of more hurt. But you don't take that excuse. Well, I mean, I just say it's worth thinking about whether you can lose like this and maintain pound for pound status. It's a debate, but it's certainly open to question. I have mixed feelings about this performance. You didn't enjoy it?
Starting point is 00:07:37 I'm not saying the fight was traditionally entertaining. And I'm not standing up for it in that regard because I understand why people would hate this. But there was some Floyd Mayweather brilliant performances, too, where you could say it didn't light up the airwaves. But, man, that was fun to watch how he just systematically disheaval. destroyed that other guy. I don't really agree. I mean, everyone's going to be different and everyone's going to have a different feeling about what matter to them or what they cared about or what stood out. So like, I'm one of these guys where like, if you enjoyed it, cool, I don't really have an issue with that. I don't think that's crazy. But I've seen a lot of lecturing, including
Starting point is 00:08:11 from fighters who are just completely fucking wrong, saying that if you didn't like this performance and if you didn't like the grappling, you're a casual. I couldn't disagree more. I think that's completely insane and off base. Let's sort of unpack what happened here. First of all, there was, I mean, Zippy Hendo, who woulda to this one? So that one, you know, it's not quite as bad. Okay, but whose fault is that?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Is it more the guy doing the mauling? The majority of the fault goes to DDP. And his coach, and like, after four rounds, they have no answers. Open mouth kiss each other. Do something to try to spice up the bedroom, right? I mean, you just have to take risks, you know, at that point. That's risky.
Starting point is 00:08:46 But the point I would make is clearly him, the reason why I thought this fight was, it could go bananas is not that you did not think that Hamzot was better in the grappling department like you kind of took that as a given but the question was could DDP have enough defensive grappling and then just you know assertiveness to the course of about to have these bursts of offense and life and like what could that do to the course of the fight or stay alive long enough to see if this man has that championship round gasting right that's the key so of these things that we were looking for and he was so deficient in the grappling that we really
Starting point is 00:09:18 never got out of first gear. That was the issue. Offensively, this fight stayed in first gear the entire time. The majority of the blame has to go on DDP. His coach even said that they were not prepared for the Mounted Crucifix
Starting point is 00:09:34 to which I have to say, well, somebody didn't watch tape because at Brave 18 in November of 2018 against Marco Kisich, he went Hamza Chimayev went exactly into Mounted Crucifix. You had to have known that this was at least partly something that he would also that sounds so lame to be like well if it wasn't for this one move we would have won so
Starting point is 00:09:52 you were talking about dennis's interview on submission really i think people should check it out it almost completely exposes that guy without him realizing it yeah he doesn't he doesn't seem to realize how bad he comes off but he comes off bad blaming the fans blaming the referee i mean i thought it was almost gratuitous how they stood that fight up in round five and gave i disagree i thought the stand-ups were fantastic i guess i'd have to re-watch them at this is a pruder link you did but you wouldn't tell me in real time you weren't like wait no no no i was waiting for it. I thought he could have stood him up earlier, actually. Interesting. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But the point is this. Clearly, the majority of the blame goes to DDP for being unable to extricate himself from seemingly anything, being on his back, being on his base, standing, leaning up
Starting point is 00:10:37 against the fence, one knee, leaning up against the fence, he had no ability to, or very little anyway, to remove himself from the situations that he was in. His defensive grappling got audited. What I think is kind of interesting about that BC is if this was an interesting moment for all the other contenders
Starting point is 00:10:54 because now you see all the positions that DDP got stuck in, you also have to have an answer for all of them too. Otherwise, you're going to be back there as well. So it was an interesting revelation, but I just... What was finally, Chimae being forced to show us the full depth of his game? Maybe not the full, but a lot more than we knew. But I have a big problem with the way Chimaier fought this fight, and I'm sorry that I do.
Starting point is 00:11:16 he made a concerted strategic decision okay the the strategic decision that he made was he was going to keep chest to chest or chest to back content uh excuse me connection i should say at basically all times and there's a good reason for that it's actually a very smart play the play is if you can maintain these kinds of connections it makes it vastly more difficult for the man underneath to get out of that, right? It is literally it is a way to put pressure and lay weight on top so that they are stuck in whatever position, either hands to the mat or back to the mat, whatever is being exposed in that moment.
Starting point is 00:11:58 If you go back and you watch, there's almost no place when as long as they're touching one another, and if Tremaya is in a dominant position where there is distance between his chest and the back or chest of DDP. But the problem with that game plan is that that is. maximally designed to maintain positional control, which is why it worked so well. But would you say he looked for a submission when it was there, or are you saying this was more purposeful to basically be like, if you're not going to change this, we're going to go the distance just like this.
Starting point is 00:12:31 What I am saying is if you're going to fight a game plan where you are that aggressively pursuing chest-to-chest and chest-to-back connection, you are making a choice to severely limit any kind of meaningful ground and pound, and you are making a choice to severely limit what kinds of submission opportunities are available to you. He waved on a bunch of different things that were very accessible that he could have gone to because he was more prioritizing the pancaking control. So I have plenty of appreciation for the skill it took to do that kind of a thing. But dude, it's not difficult to imagine. Put your chest on the ground and try and punch around you. There's nothing you can really do.
Starting point is 00:13:14 You have to create posture. If you want to pass, for example, Shemayev got stood up in the fifth. When he got stood up in the fifth BC, he had chest-to-chest contact on DDP. DDP's guard is open, and Shemayev has both knees on the ground. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:13:30 you cannot pass an MMA with both knees on the ground, and you cannot ground and pound in MMA, making chest-to-chest contact. So what is your offense from there? You made a choice to have minimal offense in favor of maximum positional control and the audacity, the fucking audacity of people out there. Fighters and media alike, be like, if you don't like this, you're a casual. No, you're a fucking casual. I feel like this drives you nuts.
Starting point is 00:14:00 For getting me, asking me to jack off to 21 minutes of positional control. I understand it is skillful and I don't mind it. But make the argument where it is. That is a choice to minimize your offense in an offense-first sport. I don't have to think that's awesome. You're fucking wrong, period. Man, these people live inside of you. It drives me, I just can't stand the currency that we give terrible arguments
Starting point is 00:14:27 because certain people from authority are just declaring that this is how it is. No the fuck it isn't. Let me push back a little. You would say, or maybe you wouldn't. He went for it in round three, getting the 10-8, while there were times in the crucifix where it's just dabbing the side of the head for volume, that seemed to be a time where he prioritized
Starting point is 00:14:46 trying to get some elbows in. He didn't cut him. Okay, maybe you didn't see that consistently and that want to end it. But what if he didn't know the true answers to the gas tank issue? And I had some people DM me, even before the fight on Saturday,
Starting point is 00:14:59 and be like, you guys are missing that he fixed his nose and all that's going to be behind him. DDP or Chamao? Chimaev. I don't even know if that's the case. All I know is you truly don't know if you have that five-round stand on until you're in a crazy fight? What if this was more about that?
Starting point is 00:15:13 So, again, so if you're going to make the choice to maintain those kinds of forms of connection, it doesn't mean that there's no chance you could get something in the submission department or that there's some kind of errant shot might not cut him with an elbow from a short distance. For example, Matt Hughes used to get mounted crucifix and his elbows in that position were so devastating, they would call the fight from there. So he was able to maintain positional control. with dominant ground and pound.
Starting point is 00:15:40 But again, it's not an either-or question. B.C., it's a question of, you know, it's just a range of possibility of what you're limiting. To your point in that third round, was he opening up a little bit more? Sure, and look at the results. I think that they spoke for themselves. He could have done more offensively
Starting point is 00:15:56 and simply chose not to. Now, the point you raised about the cardio, to me is actually very interesting. Again, if you want to make the argument he was being diligent and patient about his offense, then make that argument. But don't make the argument that that is also simultaneously something that's not offensively muted.
Starting point is 00:16:13 No, it is. You have to make that argument. You're right. If he did this three or four more times in a row, then it would be a totally different conversation about, is there one dominant style that's making this sport boring? You know, I'm people already doing that, of course, in a MMA Twitter that, like, see, we've got too many, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:29 Chechen and Georgian guys. I'm of foundationally of the other belief of, like, try and stop it. I know that if he did this three, four, five more times, times in a row, he would kill his market ability. You can only be so popular like that. But I'm just talking about from the one time, even though we didn't get the fight of the year, Canada, this back and forth action fight,
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm still more of the, I appreciate the shit about what he just did and showed us. He's got 12 finishes and 15 wins. So we know what his intentions are in fights. I looked at this as a little bit like when he fought Gilbert Burns. And I actually thought he lost that fight. But I thought he unnecessarily was willing to try to show the world that I'm not just a wrestler
Starting point is 00:17:09 I got a backbone like I'll fight to the death too like I am that guy he showed that he passed that test I almost felt like this was the opposite like he wanted to show the world now that I'm fully healthy I'm not fighting once a year
Starting point is 00:17:20 for three out of four years I don't have gas tank issues I'm ready this is what I can do to everybody in this division so look if he fights this way every time we're going to have a problem where he's not maximizing his strengths
Starting point is 00:17:31 completely he's killing his potential crossover stardom I mean you hear the pops before the fight show you the momentum he's on and how badly people want this guy to be for real. I believe he'll go for the finish more in these next fights, but I think he was entering a five-round fight, knowing it could be a war against a guy whose gas tank has never failed him,
Starting point is 00:17:50 and he basically said, let me take that strength. That thing that he is over me, let me take it away completely by putting the onus on him. I'm going to gas him out. I'm going to constantly be on top of him anywhere he's going to go. I'm going to cut it off, and I'm going to make him force a type of rally that's going to leave him open to make a big mistake. you won on positional control.
Starting point is 00:18:09 We're just saying the same thing in a different way. But that is also, to me, was fascinating as shit to watch. Fascinating? I was fascinated by, I mean, remember when Justin Gates'y was on our show and said, if one guy can hold you down, then that means two can rape you? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't understand these arguments from people where it's like, hey, we're not going to count takedowns as offense in MMA.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Let me, unless you slam them. But we're not going to count takedown on MMA because the reward for the takedown is, well, now you've got the fight on the floor. because you wanted it there. What is the reward for achieving a control position from which you can do nothing else? It's just more of the control position. There's a value to that, and I acknowledge it,
Starting point is 00:18:50 and it's hard to eat, like, can everybody do what Hamzat did if they choose to maintain those same kinds of connection? No, Hamzad is very, very good. And to your point, I think it's also we should say this. This could be one of those scenarios, BC, where, hey, listen, if Hamzot loses this fight, he's one of the biggest what-ifs in MMA history at that point.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You know, there may have been a lot of pressure on him. And so he chose to fight in a way where this was a safer approach to get the dub on route to 25 minutes. Yep. But that doesn't make people being like, I didn't necessarily love a safe approach from the guy for being wrong, nor is it us saying necessarily to the point you raise, hey, listen, he might go out there against, let's make something up, RDR, and just really open up on him on the ground.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Sure. Absolutely. But what I'm saying is in this fight, he thought he made a concerted choice to be offensively conservative. That's just the reality. I think it was all things at once. I think it was both impressive. I think it was also to what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:19:48 put off the gas a little bit where maybe he could have taken a little bit more chances and got the finish. I think he was also part of him was that artistry of I want to show you now that I'm finally here exactly what is possible. I can completely shut down your game. Now, Luke...
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, but he has to shut down his in the process. I totally understand that. Not every fight is going to look like that. Because as much as this was super impressive from Chimayev, it was also disappointing to hear, to see DDP's performance, to hear from the coach afterwards on submission radio and see that they had lack of answers. Is there any potential, does this one performance that people were not entertained by?
Starting point is 00:20:25 I don't think it's going to be the future. But do you think there's anything to these casual Twitter arguments of like, we don't have any American champions and more and more we're seeing dominant for foreign wrestling dominance. I don't believe that. I think it's cyclical and it's going to come around. I think the reality is two things are happening. I honestly don't think it matters that Shamiya is not American.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I think people can really get, again, he might go back in his next fight to opening up. And I rewatch some of his other fights, like against the leech or even Robert Whitaker. He's much more open. So, like, we know he can do it. I'm saying he chose not to you. But to your point, I think he can still be a big star in this market, especially now that he can get here as a big part of it.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Um, I don't really believe that, but at the same time, what people are noticing, they're blaming this on other people, but two things are happening at once. There's this ascendancy of guys from, you know, the caucus, the caucuses mountains, the, in that region where they're all really being able to be great and deliver. And there's also independent of that, a decline in American in American American amateur wrestling stars because of NIL and all that. There's just a lot less of these elite guys coming over. And they're not going to make a ton of money. And I think it's just. And I think it's just. And I think it's just. I think it's just you're seeing both. It's people like, oh, it's their fault. It's not their fault. It's just a bunch of things are happening in once and it kind of looks bad for America in that way. Well, part of me is like, okay, I want to see now who can stop this,
Starting point is 00:21:46 and we'll get into that. First, let's show some reaction here. This first being UFC President Dana White reacting in the post-fight presser to homesteads dominantly. Did you see before this fight, that being the possible way it was going to play out? No.
Starting point is 00:22:01 The lead up to this fight, I said, I bet the main event is the fight of the night. Didn't see that coming, but not shocked either. I mean, you go in and dominate the way that he dominated. If you can do it the first round, one likely you can do it the second and throughout the rest of the fight. There was a time, and it was in the promos leading up to this fight. You said Hums Up was special, one of the most special guys you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Do you think he's lived up to that yet, or does he still have a little ways to go because he's been a bit more inactive since you said? The night when we were on Fight Island, he said, I want to fight next Saturday ever since then. the guy's been a rocket ship and obviously is very popular too. People love them. Fighting back here in the United States and obviously Chicago loved them too. And what did you think of DDP's performance, right?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Obviously, he was outmatched in the wrestling, never gave up though. Even in the last round, he started landing his own shots. What did you make of DDP and his toughness to survive five rounds? Yeah, I mean, first of all, I had every round at 10-8, maybe except for the last round. But, you know, to be in the position that he was in and the crew, crucifix and just getting dominated on the ground and punched in the face and elbowed and it's a very frustrating place to be
Starting point is 00:23:09 and I thought he handled it well and came out every round trying to get in the fight and try to win yeah impressive on the crucifix it's a weird one right they're landing strikes he's landing like 200 punches around but they're not quite hard enough that Dana would go on to speak a little bit more
Starting point is 00:23:28 on that fight yeah as long as it's sort of a one-off I don't think this kills the momentum he's built so aggressively and so fast if you take out a John Jones and a Connor McGregor who are sporadic and only have a one or none left each in them probably when you look at their star list right now
Starting point is 00:23:44 they're valuable assets. Topori I feel like is still the most powerful, the most valuable even if others have been more established longer like a Mahathev who got the Habibrab but Hamza catapults toward the top of that list suddenly. Is he like number two in your eyes? I would not put him ahead of Marab? No. I certainly wouldn't put him ahead of Ilya. Really? Because
Starting point is 00:24:07 he's far more charismatic and headline creating than Marab. Poetan too we got a I mean Poetan certainly you know with a bounce back no question. What is I'm not sure I guess I don't understand the criteria. Who's the most valuable brands as a promotional entity as a promotional entity not just driving pay-per-view buys but actually like building momentum okay he's up there yeah he's top three certainly among active fighters I don't really count John or Connor in that way. Yeah, he's top three, for sure. But I do think that, listen, people are going to buy his next pay-per-view more than
Starting point is 00:24:40 who bought this one or, you know, whatever the metric ends up being. More people will watch, let's say it's a better way to put it. And again, he could return to form. But I don't think this, this was just important in crossing the threshold. It was just important in crossing the championship threshold. This is not one I don't think that's necessarily going to stand the test of time. Yes. In part because I think some of the other middleweight contenders are going to be a little bit more forceful about resistance.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Well, him not gassing out, him doing this in such complete thorough detail, I think cancels the questions that I most had about him coming in. So that's very good that we got that question. But I don't know about him staying consistent and healthy. This guy needs to start fighting three times a year. Like he needs to. Agreed with that. He's going to have the rocket ship behind him.
Starting point is 00:25:23 He needs to be able to get in there. And that's my biggest hope for it. My question is this. And listen to what I am saying. I am asserting a question. I am not asserting an answer. Some things I feel like I have an answer for, this one I don't, which is, clearly apportioning his offense in the way that he did was smart for a 25-minute fight. And the fact that he was able to maintain discipline about that only speaks good of him.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah. However, is there a question that if he has to disperse his offense and manage his resources this way, he becomes a lot less dangerous? 100%. And that's something that he has to prove to us through evolution. that he can start chipping away at that gap. And I don't think that gap is monster. I mean, whether you thought him or Gilbert Burns won't, granted that was Welterweight,
Starting point is 00:26:09 but same thing with Camaro. They were very even competitive fights where you saw a lot to love and you saw some things that you questioned. You know, for the Usman fight, it was him sort of, you know, kind of give, not giving up the round, but like trying to stay up with that same level of stamina.
Starting point is 00:26:23 He was, he was gassing and stalling and not at that same force. He showed at least in this fight that the five-round thing probably won't be an issue. But again, in a brawl we're going to see a lot more of who he actually is but now it's up to somebody to get him into that brawl so before we talk exactly about who's next for him i just wanted to close the book on ddp this has the potential to be demoralizing or you can simply say all right
Starting point is 00:26:45 that's a hole in my game i've got to level it up can he level it up and get right back in and stay in contention and be one to two wins away from a title shot again to try to write that wrong no matter who's you know who's on the throne at that moment i don't know i don't know i don't know I mean, I don't think there's a lot of demand for a rematch. That's not what you're saying. You're saying one to two. Here's the question you have to ask yourself. How far behind is DDP in the wrestling?
Starting point is 00:27:14 And of course, the answer is not that you have to get him equal with Hamzot. I don't know if there's enough time in their lives for them to do that. The question you have to ask yourself is, does he have enough time and enough ability to, you know, shut down, let's say, half the takedowns. So he got 12 on Homs on DDP. he only gets six in a five-round fight and that that six difference is enough to change his competitive fortunes. I don't know the answer to that.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Yeah. I don't know the answer to that. I will say this, the gap between them in grappling skill is enormous. It is enormous. This is not a simple fix, which is another reason why as coach being getting out,
Starting point is 00:27:54 there's, oh, I know exactly what we have to work on. Well, yeah, because your guy got fucking audited. like everybody knows what he has to work on I forget can you look that up for us it's on submission radio's YouTube channel shouts to uh to Dennis yeah um I mean it's damaging but you you guys you got to bounce back in a big way you got to show us I mean it's not like I don't think he's gonna beat other good middleweight like for sure I do but it's a big fucking difference his name is mourn Visser they got weird names in South Africa don't they I mean that I don't think he has to change camps and that's going to be the fix but they all got to look in the mirror
Starting point is 00:28:29 yeah dude you got shown up in a big way you couldn't do anything i mean literally they could do nothing well that's why i hate when people do the boring thing because and i don't hate it from the standpoint of um you can't appreciate it if you think it's boring like i'm not i'm just doing it from the like don't take away from what for sure how brilliant that actually is he i mean that dude had this dude was a championship of leap pound for pound breakout star and he's laying there like a child like i said if you told rdard to do exactly what homza did if you told fluffy Fluffy could get closer, but even that I don't think they could pull off what Hamzot did. What he did was skillful.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I just feel like it's not unfair to say he made a choice to give up on the most important kinds of offense that are available. And I'm not a dickhead for noticing that. All right. Who's next for Hamzad opens up a big wad because we've got a lot of names. You certainly have Renier de Ritter, who's won four UFC fights in like six months since joining and is on fire and getting better somehow every time. Anthony Fluffy Hernandez, maybe more of a dark horse, but that shutdown performance of Roman DeLisei, catapulted him up. The bigger one may be the September number one contender
Starting point is 00:29:32 about headlining a fight night card between Nasserdeen Imov and Kyle Wohalyo. Let's hear from the new champ regarding how quickly come back, when and who and all that, because I can't wait to see who it is. I got opinions about all of them, but here's Hamza.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Do you still want to turn around and fight in Abu Dhabi? We'll see what they say. I'm ready always, so no injuries. Thanks, Cadd. Who do you think is the most deserving contender to challenge you for that belt first? I don't care about these things, but I just, where they give the money, I fight to anyone. He had said all Fight Week, he wants to turn around and fight in Abu Dhabi.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Is that something you would consider, or do you feel like with the heavyweight title already on that card, like he may be... I just had a kid fight Tuesday and wanted to turn around and come here. Abu Dhabi, I would definitely consider. Yeah, and I mean, so many great potential contenders right now, right? right now, right? We have the great fluffy win, Reneer de Ritter, we have a huge fight in Paris. Are you just kind of waiting for the Paris one and then maybe
Starting point is 00:30:36 see the lay of the land if he could be next? I'm waiting for Tuesday. But yeah, I agree with everything you just said. So, Luke, this is going to be interesting of who gets the nod. We talked at length about this heading into this card. We both felt Nasserdeen, even if it's kind of an impressive wind,
Starting point is 00:30:51 may not have the clout or the company protection or momentum, however you want to phrase it. I think I would want most RDR next. The streak he's on, the fact that naturally he could potentially could have that kryptonite on the ground where not only he could prevent that grappling takeover, he could provide a counter threat with the submission that makes that look a lot different. And then I think that striking battle would be very interesting in that fight
Starting point is 00:31:15 because RDR is dangerous and weird ways, but maybe that gives Chimae of an opportunity to really show us what he can do there. Who do you think it will be? And who do you want at this point after this fight? I think my most interesting question is probably going to be Fluffy. For me, I'm going to rank Fluffy, again, not as the number one contender exactly, but in answer to your question, who has the best chance of giving Chima? I would pick Chimai of over anybody, I think, right now, but who's got a best chance?
Starting point is 00:31:42 I'd say Fluffy one, maybe Kio 2. I'm less committed to that one, and maybe R.D.R. 3. And the reason why is on the feet, I certainly think, on the feet, by the way, Chamaeva is skillful, but not lights out. He's a little basic, right? He's powerful. He's powerful, and that counts, but that's not, like, his ability to meaningfully set up and execute without being defensively vulnerable is suspect. He's also got to develop that kick game. Yes, I totally agreed. I mean, he can punch. I mean, there's no question he can punch.
Starting point is 00:32:10 But what I would say is the RDR factor is he's going to get taken down and he's going to get put in bad positions. Which you have to bank on is can RDR do funky jujitsu stuff to counter it? I don't know. That's what I want to see. Yeah, I don't know the answer to that. I feel like Hernandez has the best chance of making that one real tough for Chimai of down the stretch. I do feel like, you know, with the Chimai of win, it resets things because, you know, DDP had been on top there for a while and for all the big names in a row.
Starting point is 00:32:40 But I wonder if this helps Fluffy's chances because he brings, you know, as much as RDR is an interesting counter because of the submission game, Fluffy's got the cardio to max, the wrestling to potentially match. I said, Max, not match. I wonder if this helps him potentially propel. Like let's say Imovov versus Bohalio as a dud. Imov gets a somewhat disputed but boring. Let's just say that happens.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Could you see Fluffy getting pushed in? Because he's hot. He represents an interesting, you know, of the Mexican-American fan base. I mean, there's a couple of things suddenly going in his way that I wonder if this title change made it more possible. I think they're going to go with what makes the biggest splash. Hernandez is a hardcore fan's delight
Starting point is 00:33:24 I'm not sure how much more on the wider but here's the problem dude like are any of these middleweight guys Kyo RDR or Fluffy yes some stand out more than the others but none is exactly like am I being wrong long on Luke
Starting point is 00:33:40 which of these contenders that we're talking about here do you feel like has really captured the imagination of the fan base RDR? It's got to be RDR but I'm in a green an honest I'm in agreeance with you Luke I think give the shot to Fluffy next against Shemayev
Starting point is 00:33:55 do DDP RDR and sorry Kayae Imov you guys are in no man's land until the time DDP RDR has the capacity for I mean I wouldn't call it Shogathoo and Hendo but I would say cats in a bag
Starting point is 00:34:07 Yeah it'd be wild cats in a bag stuff going on right there Damn this is interesting Obviously Sean Strickland is kind of quasi in this mix he's coming off a loss though Two in his last three both against DDP however And Strickland have a
Starting point is 00:34:21 fight lined up? He doesn't, but I think that like if he did and could get a quick win here. Yes, that would be interesting. About the Chmai of calendar, if he comes back October against whoever they put him in, well, if he gets a quick win there, I'm not saying he will, but if he does, you could even bring it back in January for the debut on Paramount if you wanted to, right?
Starting point is 00:34:37 Because you've got to think you got to put somebody in that main event who's got big time momentum and has a splash. But specifically related to Strickland, we do have Hamzot here responding to the back and forth that they had or really just, you know, Strickland pumping the Twitter waves with calling him weak, calling him a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Here's the new champ's reaction. Sean Strickland, your old friend, has been tweeting about you since the fight. He said that when you were in the gym together, he would actually out-wrestle you and be better than you in the wrestling over four rounds. He could take him down many times, but how can he take me down?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Come on. This guy, I beat him everywhere, and striking, but this guy just talked too much. He's a funny guy. He's working with what is his name? Burrattino or what is in Paolo, yeah, Paolo. I make them together.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I want them together? I'll make them together. He'll beat them both in the same night right there. That is, I kind of wish Strickland, I mean, it would have to be like a loser leaves title contention, which it probably would be anyway if you had a shot here, but I don't want it coming off of a loss. I'd love to see him have to prove it.
Starting point is 00:35:44 There are other guys that are more deserving. Let's hear Fluffy, who was there in Chicago and was interviewed backstage afterwards about if he could get the shot. Tell me your thoughts on what we saw. Hamzachimae is the new champion of the middleweight division. Congratulations to him. It's a fucking pretty boring fight, not a lie. But, man, call me for the fight.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I can wrestle. I can do jitsu. I could stop all the shit and I can shut him down. And like with my gas tank, man, I'll drown him, I promise. I'll make him fucking work. So call me, keep me in mind, guys. And I think you guys will have a new fucking Mexican-American champion. dude i wonder is he the real cane velasquez i wonder if they watched if the ufc brass watches that and is
Starting point is 00:36:25 like he's fucking right he might be right this is the two alpha fight that we thought the ddp versus chemaiah fight was because we thought it would be more just in the mix of everything and the recklessness but no this one has that potential to be more about just high pace both having the same skill sets in some ways that's a dog fight if it and also here's a very basic question No one is going to argue that Hernandez is a better wrestler than Shemayev. Certainly I would not make that argument. But if it ends up coming down to being because Chimov gets tired, a labor issue, Fluffy's going to win that one 10 times out of 10.
Starting point is 00:37:05 That's an interesting fight to me. Also, we have Kaya giving sound for a while. We're getting there. I did want to ask you before we show Kaya here, who is the best dance partner if they were going to save Chimai of for the debut Paramount card? who brings the most name value, who brings the most potential... Strickland? Yeah, I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Strickland. That is right. If that's going to be their first CBS live type of deal, I don't know. We'll see what happens. We can come back in October. Here is the aforementioned Kyle Bolliolio talking about him being the guy to beat Hamza. We see 529 total strikes landed 21 minutes of ground control, but you see a lot of fans out there calling it boring, not exciting. What did you think?
Starting point is 00:37:42 I think he did what he always does. But this time he didn't finish. So when a grappler comes, and just hook the guys and he doesn't finish, it becomes a ball and fight. Spent one month in his training camp when he was in All-Stars over there, and I know very well how he works,
Starting point is 00:37:57 his system and everything. And I think I have advantage between all the middleweight fighters. I think I'm the one that have advantage to beat him because I know what exactly is he's doing, what exactly is his system and all these steps that he needs to go through and how to deny these steps.
Starting point is 00:38:16 So I'm very respectful for Hamza, he's like a brother for me, but at this time, at this point, it is love of the competition. It's me and him, you know? This talk, maybe Hamzat will turn around for Abu Dhabi. Would you be open to fighting and then fighting again that soon, or would you maybe have him fight someone else, then you get the winner? To be honest, if somebody offered him evolve to fight Hamza, he would say no right now, because he was mopped in the floor by Hamza when they trained together. So, to be honest with you, if the UFC comes to me right now and say, fuck him above, he's a guy that gives us a lot of work. He didn't want to fight on International Fight Week.
Starting point is 00:38:56 He called it back up as a leftover. He's like, he don't respect the UFC. So fuck him evolve, fuck Paris, go prepared to fight Hamza in October. I'm ready. If the UFC offered me this, I'll say yes right away. Dude, this is going to make their fight in Paris in September, him and Imaville. It's going to be electric because they both know that like Lerone Murphy, who we're going to talk about in a second, you can turn your reputation in an instance with a badass finish or a breakthrough win right there. You're right there.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And I think, Kyo, to me, doesn't sound like he doesn't believe he can win this. No. They are convinced. Sounds badass right there. They can win this. Yeah, I love it. What's your guys opinion on Kyle weighing in as the backup two weeks before his headline? Yeah, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Probably a mistake. I don't like that. Probably a mistake. It may not be a fatal one, but a mistake. Yeah. All right. Hey, by the way, you want to talk about timing? Put the camera on me.
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Starting point is 00:40:34 But a next big MMA pay-view is not until October. So it's the last week of September? And then it turns October. So that's UFC 320 Abu Dhabi. That's right. Ancolae v. Pereira 2, yep. And then Marab versus Corey Sandhagen, let's go. Great fight. Great fight.
Starting point is 00:40:49 That's going to be a big pregame preview as well, fired up for that one. All right, topic number two takes us to the co-main event on Saturday, which could have been a debuting coronation for Aaron Pico into true featherweight title contention and a potential gift to the promotion as we talked about coming in. But, oh, by the way, last minute, an opponent, Lorone Murphy was 16-0 and 1. And that became 17. in such a shocking, violent, massive way. After a first round in which Pico very aggressively,
Starting point is 00:41:19 if not over aggressively, brought the offense to Murphy late in that round with his back to the cage. He unleashed a K-O-of-the-year like spinning back fist, K-O, spinning back elbow, excuse me, the 10th in promotional history and back-to-back fights after Carlos Proctor did it the one before. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It was one of those type of moments that Dana White deals. How much does a win like this? do for Lorone Murphy's promotional development considering I thought this was a chance for the UFC to get rid of the problems with where do we put this guy? This is a new guy, Luke.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Holy shit, that's got to be overnight changing your fortunes in a massive way. I don't know if there was anyone else short of the champ. I don't know if there was anyone else on the roster they could have matched him up with that would have yielded as promotionally valuable a result
Starting point is 00:42:11 as this one, right? Because Pico had a ton of hype coming in. Murphy, I think people begrudgingly, not us, but others begrudgingly respected him, but, you know, didn't think that he was necessarily in dangerous. And he was seconding behind Evloev in that, in that begrudging.
Starting point is 00:42:27 You know what I mean? Like, he was the fill-in for the guy that people didn't want that's right. And, you know, a bit of an unknown figure to most, to be perfectly honest. You could have matched him up with Movesar, but would he have gotten an electric win like this. You could have matched him up with Yair, and that would have been good, but I don't think he's going to fight Yair like this. So the point I'm trying to make is you got a promotional darling to make himself vulnerable in such a way
Starting point is 00:42:48 where Murphy got the most electric win of his career at the most important juncture. I think he's 36. Again, I think he's, I believe that's right. Well, no, look. Is Lorone Murphy 36? That sounds way too old. That thing is no way.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Look that up. Look that up. I'm offended by that. Maybe 34? What is he? 33, probably. I'm typing, guys. I mean, this should be quicker long.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You know, I'm on a phone. It's small. I get in trouble for the two-hour shows here. I clicked the Wikipedia. He's 34. 34. Okay. Getting up there.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's time. It's time. It's a point I'm trying to make. This was, I mean, it could not have gone better for him. This was like, what's his name? Head kicking Camaro in the rematch. Leon Edwards in terms of turning your fate. Only that was for the championship.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Yeah. I mean, although he was getting thrashed in that fight a little bit. Sure. It was competitive in spots. But whatever. This was so good for him. This was, I mean, it's worst case scenario for Aaron Pico. Honestly, it is.
Starting point is 00:43:42 It really is. And this is best case scenario for Lerone Murphy. It is that stark and that different. And honestly, B.C., good for him, man, because I just don't know what other combination they could have given him that would have just catapulted him in the way that he did. And one more time, he took this fight on three weeks notice. He traveled, made weight, and got a first round KO.
Starting point is 00:44:03 What more can you ask from a guy? And he weathered the storm of Pico's overaggressiveness, but it was at times effective overaggressiveness when he's landing those big-time. hooks to the body he took uh murphy down landed some some kind of heavy ground and pound looked like that that you know contracted you know hitman right there but if you noticed his advances increasingly got a little more reckless he got checked by a left hand when he went in for a double leg he caught a knee of the face and it started to be like okay murphy's picking this up still holy shit that was a violent finish i mean pico was down so long do you see the
Starting point is 00:44:41 Daniel Cormier video he put out where he was like from our vantage point, it took four people to come in and upwards of four minutes to get the mouthpiece out. He was, and he was out for, you know, over four minutes. I know he put out a statement that on Instagram that was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:57 I've been here before. I'm going to bounce back. This is just a loss. It's a setback. As much as this was the most insane greatest thing that could ever happen to Lorone Murphy, I can't imagine a worst case scenario. And at the same time it wasn't a lucky shot he was doing the things that got him in trouble back when he
Starting point is 00:45:16 was originally climbing and while that last nine fight stretch he had repaired it this is a higher level of competition i know it's something we debated during the pregame preview i was right he he brought it you know what can you say he brought it on himself he was overaggressive he was effective now he was knocked out cold and i i don't even know about his future luke i really don't i don't really know how you picked this up i mean this it's going to sound hyperbolic but we were right to note that on the pregame preview, like, dude, Larone, we said it about Movesar, but Movesar is not a big puncher or even, you know, a very capable striker in that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:48 So the argument was the same, which was you've never fought anyone remotely this good, but the threat of Movesar is different. Who can make you pay on that badly? Right, right, right. And it's just a different threat. Like, he's going to wrestle you and blah, blah, blah. But Murphy's threat, and I didn't think he was going to be a big chaos threat. I thought he'd be able to touch and go and be hard to find.
Starting point is 00:46:06 But then when you just roll up on a guy like, this so recklessly look what happens bc let's just say it out loud like pico is a very very nice young man and he's only 28 that part is true but his career's in trouble are you like saying get into modeling now no that's not what i'm saying i'm not even saying he won't come back and get some nice wins i think he will but the amount of damage he's taken has compromised his ability to absorb further damage he feels like a mere con and the thing that got me was like dude you got in trouble in m m m m for rushing your offense when it wasn't the rest
Starting point is 00:46:42 and partly the rest of his game wasn't ready but still rushing and in your UFC debut you're still doing this dude I mean I don't know what to say but like how can you be repeating these kinds of mistakes unnecessarily I mean I was wrong of course I just never thought
Starting point is 00:46:59 he would go back to that way of creating that mistake that opening take your time take your time and slowly wrestle him wear him out a little bit lean on that all that. It wasn't like Murphy marched over across the cage and then like forced him into a firefight. He was the one doing this. It just is the decision making is poor. The consequences are catastrophic. His career's in trouble. It's in trouble. It's not over, but it's in trouble.
Starting point is 00:47:27 You would almost need a complete defensive overhaul. It's not just, let's be smarter. Haven't we done this? We've been through this, yeah. And it's only, the returns are only diminishing from there. He tried to stagger step like his way in. and then by the time he gets hit, he's square. I mean, your heart broke for him, didn't it? Your heart broke for him. It's what happens in this game, but holy shit. It did break from, but at the same time, it's like, I don't know what to say to people.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Damn. Well, considering the trash talk between Pico and Volcanowski, leading up to this fight, we felt like we had the perfect transition into a red-hot matchup that we need to see. Luckily for Lerone Murphy, he's transitioned us pretty excitingly, and maybe not on the level of what we would expect out of Pico versus Volk, But now we need to recalibrate how difficult a matchup potentially 34-year-old Lorone Murphy will be for the two-time champion. First, let's hear from Murphy at the post-fight presser repeating what he did in the cage, which was calling out the champ. And again, nothing is concrete in this game, but you have the featherweight champion of the world calling you out for a fight in December.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Alex Wilkenoski wants to fight you. It seems like you've done enough at this stage. Is that the fight and is that the timeline you would like to do? December will be perfect for me. gives me time to recharge, spend some time with the family, and then work on some bits and get better and come back better. December will be great to share the octagon with Volcanowski, one of the featherweight goats,
Starting point is 00:48:50 adding another scalp to my already quality resume. I'm nine fights, nine fights under five years now, yeah? You're no better than me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've had ten fights in the UFC now, one draw, nine wins. It's time for a title part. Hard to debate that at all, in fact, and he's never been sexier in that regard.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Luke, before we throw to Dana White, I do, how much of a threat is he of the title after that performance? I would not favor him to beat Volcanovsky, but I think he's a worthy adversary that could surprise. I wouldn't bet on him, but I would not dismiss him
Starting point is 00:49:31 as some kind of overmatched nothing. I don't think that's right. And nobody's got a stronger case, it, by the way, right now. Unless you want to go back to Evlov, who just pulled out of the fight. So, no, you're not going to. Movesar, in a different circumstance,
Starting point is 00:49:41 would be the guy, but not now. No. So, uh... Do you guys think if Jan Silva beats Diego Lopez in a month? So that's the X factor for me. That opens up a sex factor. If he goes in there and fucks Diego Lopez up,
Starting point is 00:49:52 he's going to jump the queue, maybe? Yeah, but how could it be a sexier finish than he just did that to the potential new golden child? Dude, Jayon Silva, I, I, I, I, he fucks. Yeah, he fucks. So, I get, it's a, it's a, it's a tall order. but I let's see let's see let's hear from the boss here's Dana white reacting to the idea of Volk versus Murphy Alex Volcanovsky said he would like to fight him in December it's not often you see a champion calling out
Starting point is 00:50:17 the challenger could be interested I love it and here's the tweet okay there we go that's it's all we need to hear here's the tweet and mention a Volk came right out after that call out in the cage see in December Lorone Murphy congrats he's looking for it let's get back out there Volk also recorded a video sense then in his car talking about this magic. A lot of people are going to be like, oh, Mavzar should be there. It's like, okay, I try it. You know, I'm going to tell he's right now. I try to make that happen.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I thought he deserves it. He did deserve it. He had this fight, and then I'm like, all right, you know, he's going to have to do this fight, and then he definitely gets it. And then he pulled out, and you know what the UFC's like with things like that. You know, maybe they try to push it back because they push the date further, and he still didn't do it. Maybe it was a serious injury.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I'm not sure. I don't know what it is. Maybe that's why he can't fight as well. I don't know. But, you know, it doesn't look like it's going to be a mobs are. But I mean, I've tried with all of them, but now it looks like it's a L'Roe Murphy. It makes a lot of sense. So let's do Leroy Murphy December. Sounds good to me, Volk. Do you think if Al Joe beats Ortega on Saturday that he catapults back into this conversation
Starting point is 00:51:27 or does the loss to Ivoev, even though it was competitive, hold him back? Sterling could make a little noise, but I just feel like it's the kind of matchup where it's going to be really hard to do that. And it's in China, and it's at six in the morning. You know,
Starting point is 00:51:43 they're not exactly setting him up. They're not setting him up to fail, but they're not, this is a little bit of, of, you know, swimming upstream in order to get what you want. It can be done, that it would have to be extremely impressive.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I mean, again, to your point. I just lost a couple of really close ones. in this division, right? And he lost to Mosar in a very fun-ass fight. So that's the other part, too. But, like, you know, again, dude, Lerone Murphy doesn't have the name recognition that Aljo had, but he's got an arguable KO of the year contender.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And that's just going to be really tough to beat. To close the book on Pico, does this play into the argument that those coming from Bellator or PFL, you know, have a hard time? I mean, you can always argue back and say that Eddie Alvarez became champion. There's always going to be, but on this recent run, which includes Patricio Pitbull, you know, losing in his UFC debut in a spot where he could have gone over and maybe become a title contender. Does this play into that, that thread at all?
Starting point is 00:52:39 I mean, I think to a degree it does. People overstated because the problem with the argument is that they made it for strike force and it was totally untrue. They made it for WEC and it was totally untrue. And trust me, they were saying, if you weren't around back then, I was. And they were saying the exact same things. So partly you roll your eyes a little bit at it. However, and also, too, like Kaylee Harrison came from PFL. She's three and oh, and she's a champion, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:03 there's people you can point to that have done well. But for the Bellator guys, yeah, it hurts a little bit. Again, you got post-prime Pitbull, and he did rescue himself against Danny Gay, but it hasn't. MVP's doing something? MVP's doing things. MVP's out there, you know, making some noise and the kind of stuff. But in other words, I will say this.
Starting point is 00:53:22 By the time that Bellator was created, the difference between UFC and Strike Force was not nearly as pronounced as the difference between UFC and Bellator. And so you wouldn't want to say, oh, because he fought in Belator, he can't compete. They also match made him real tough. Let's be honest about that. But there is a, I think, you know, it's not a, it's not a, yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:42 there's a difference. I mean, I think the Michael Chandler experience overall is a success story as an ex Belator. Promotionally, it's a big success story. A lot of guys got nice wins off of him, you know. Multiple titles. And his two wins, the Hooker and Ferguson win are devastating chaos. Yes. And he's been in countless fight of the year contenders.
Starting point is 00:53:58 It's like a, it's like a holiday when he's fighting that you know you're going to get an absolute brawl against a fellow veteran. So that closes out the co-man. Let's go to topic number three, which was the rest of the UFC 319 main card, which produced some really big finishes and none more than the first of back-to-back spinning elbow chaos. Only this time, it was from a refurbished Carlos Pradesh fresh off that lost to Ian Machado Gary over in their sort of number one contenders bout, or at least it felt a quasi version of that where he looked bad. early good late he came in and you can tell he did the hard work in terms of the cardio squaring off against jeff neal overwhelming him a bit early with the striking but once he started to pick away hurt neil and then set him up for that devastating spinning back elbow that lord neal blood coming out of the side of his head look how redemptive was this does this erase any step back
Starting point is 00:54:53 against gary and now make him look better than ever and oh by the way still flaunting the like not even you know avoiding it like kids this is how you can get ahead just like me and like yo I'm going to be drinking for three to four days before I start fucking Bill Hicks the fucking Bill Hicks of UFC um yeah only it's cool it's it's fucking cool shit too this guy's on fire the aura man well Bill Hicks was pretty cool but to your point this is huge I I you know you don't want to overstate one thing I still think BC people are going to look at Carlos Pratchis and they're going to say well, there might be some other questions about exactly how good he can be, but what I loved in this fight is not just that he had that devastating win. BC, he was setting it up the whole
Starting point is 00:55:34 time how creatively and how massively he was spreading out his targets of attack, leg kick, front kick, a jab, cross, uppercut, hook. He's not just speed and power. Right. He's putting the game together. And he's going head, body, leg, leg, head, body. He's just mixing it up. And then finally, you know, like the fighting nerds do, they put a little bit of sauce on that
Starting point is 00:55:54 before they serve it to. you and it's tremendous. So what I'm saying is people will focus on the finish and be like, wasn't that great. Sure. But the stuff he was doing before that to really, huh? Wasn't that great? No, I'm saying. They will say wasn't that great. Oh, the stuff he was doing that way. Yeah, yes, of course it was. But I'm saying the stuff in the lead up to it with the targets diversity and the striking diversity. Yeah. That's what I wanted to see and that's what enabled to finish. And dude, no one has put out Jeff Neal like that. Tremendous. She shows you like he's even more dangerous than maybe we thought. You know what I mean? I think he's going to learn the lessons.
Starting point is 00:56:26 from not, not sticking to the game plan in that Ian Gary fight and freestyling maybe a little bit too much. But he's not going to stop smoking cigarettes. This, of protest at the presser afterwards was just, it was our team fighting nerds. I went three and no today. So I guess how's the team back there
Starting point is 00:56:41 after Carini's wins? He looks like a mechanic in, you know, I don't know, pick any part of, any, any, what you want to call? Like any junkyard filled with the scraps, you know? Dude, should they, in your eyes, given that the UFC really doesn't silence or police people. You can say what you want.
Starting point is 00:56:59 You can almost do what you want. Should they give him the Ricardo-Miorga treatment and allow him in the post-fight interviews in the cage to light up right there and sort of not worry about the message and all that? Just like... Yes, they should. I mean, he's living the life, dude. He said he's going to need to party for four days before he even talks about his next meeting.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Well, we got a little bit of footage of that too, but yes, they should. They should absolutely lean into this, yes. Oh, my God. here's uh carlos protest partying afterwards that's me after three margaritas except no one's cheering for me the whole showtime staff is at home dude long island luke from like the hardcore fans favorite fighters
Starting point is 00:57:43 like did he just make the bleep right there yeah and i was rooting not rooting i was on jeff neal though in this fight and i got to say all week i was like harlose practice might be one of my favorite fighters He's fucking great. He's great. That was, I mean, Jeff Neal's hard. It's hard to do that, too, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:57 He looked like, damn. I mean, he was. You know, and that was the other part, too. Did you guys not notice that Jeff Neal looked so much faster than him? Yes. It was competitive early and before Prattis started to find his mark. I mean, that's a. Did you guys see that clip after Neil gets finished of Ramez brahimage in the crowd?
Starting point is 00:58:14 No. No. Gilbert Burns was like obviously recording something and Gilbert was miced up. And Ramees starts yelling, safe fucking ruined his career. Here, safe Sayyud. And Ramiz is a Fordus guy, too. I don't know any details behind it, but it was.
Starting point is 00:58:29 That's some really inside baseball there in the MMA Jim Wars. Wow. Luke, let's continue on down the card to now middleweight, but he is open to going back to Welterway, and that's Michael Venom Page. Excuse me. I thought he might come into trouble against a 41-year-old Jared Canaaner who was figuring out how to really use his toughness
Starting point is 00:58:48 and his brawling ability to his advantage, like the last fight against Hobocop. this went much differently as not only MVP was able to do MVP things but with a noticeably bigger body which didn't slow him down at all he was even able to drop cannon near a couple times land clean combinations and almost just clown him ultimately uh afterwards MVP is talking about the idea of a return to welterweight the potential of a quick turnaround against uh who's he uh link to no it's falling out of my memory he wanted who did he call out afterwards who uh MVP well there was talking about of him fighting process that's what we were just talking about exactly i was like i was missing it in real time there um what do you make first of this victory and do you think the welterweight path or the 885 path could be more fruitful here for well i mean i don't really i don't i don't know the answer to that because i feel like any kind of true escalation in either direction is impossible you know you're not going to beat rochmanov you're not going to beat sean brady at 170 it's just
Starting point is 00:59:51 not going to happen. There's other ones you could probably, and you already fought Ian Gary. So you can give your name for money against protest, but you do have a shot of beating that guy. Yes, for sure him, for sure him. But then 85, look who's at the top there. Homsot's up there and Fluffy's up there. Like, those guys are fucking nightmare matchups for MVP. So like, the ultimate destination is not really achievable in either direction. So which direction do you go? I would say, whichever one gives you the most fun fights on a time agreeable to your calendar and, you know, to an extent of money changes depending on the matchup, do that.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I honestly don't think it really matters too much beyond that because how far can you actually go? By the way, he's not far from 40 himself. He's getting up there as well. He said in the cage before the protest conversation really got going that if I can get another fun offer at middleweight like this, I'd take it in a heartbeat. There are a lot of big names coming down.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Yes, there's that as well. So to me, it's like, listen, as long as you can stay in fun, relevant fights on big cards, if it's 170, do that. If it's 185, do that. But I don't think there has to be... It's not much more complicated than that. So the protest, quick turnaround would be in Brazil.
Starting point is 01:00:54 That would be crazy to fight that dude in Brazil. Wow. Here's MVP taking to the mic and talking about which veteran middleweight he might prefer to fight next if that falls through. You just beat the number nine guy at middleweight. I'm going to throw a couple names at you and you tell me what you think about it. We got Robert Whitaker and we got Sean Strickland. What do you think about those two? Either one.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Robert Whitaker, I'm a massive fan of. I love his style. I love his just how he fights up and down. what a great fight, you know, the similarities in our styles. What a great fight. Strickland is just a beast of walk forward. He's going to want to just take those shots. But again, a great fight.
Starting point is 01:01:31 I want big names. I want big fights and you just name two people. I'm 100% in. The Strickland fight could be wild. Strickland would take those shots and keep coming on. He would be the Forrest Griffin to the Anderson Silva. That would be a hell of a difference too with one guy marching them down and kind of deflecting the other guy just having to, you know, leap in.
Starting point is 01:01:50 all the time. Okay, what about the ultimate Spider-Man meme fight MVP versus Izzy? I don't know that they would. They said they would only fight if there was a shitload, quote unquote, shitload of money on the table. And also they would kind of circle and not
Starting point is 01:02:06 commit, right? It would be like the ultimate... I mean, Izzy is definitely not going to like bite down on the mouthpiece against a guy like that. You know, he's going to play it smart. So if they would make it, I wouldn't hate it. I just seems unlikely, especially compared to the other potential opportunities there.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Hey, good win for MVP, and we'll see. He'll have his offers right now. I will say, because his game is so predicated on speed and reflexes, I thought he would have fallen off by now. But he has found some interesting longevity. You've got to give him credit. He has a threat with that extra speed advantage of middleweight. He is much faster than these guys.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It's very, very interesting to see. I mean, do you think he was hitting hard or he was just landing so clean so quickly? I think his punches have almost like a pushing effect. Because when you watch the replay, they do make pretty good contact. but he's not like whipping people's chins past their shoulder. He's more like hitting them and then they lose their balance
Starting point is 01:02:54 in the process and then they get back up. So it's like the charging almost has like a pushing effect. That's a fair point. So he does kind of fight in like in the old Batman TV show when he'd punch it on the screen. It'd be like pow. Yeah, it's called Onomatopoeia. Yeah, he fights in a very onomatopoeia.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Hey, how about 38-year-old Tim Elliott kicking off the main card against a Kai Asakura who had lost his UFC debut, but in a title fight against Pantosia. Two years removed this veteran, Tim Elliott, who of course was caught up in that weird Divorce Love Triangle on Twitter, put all that away, came back,
Starting point is 01:03:28 and was in probably the best shape of his career, was dynamic at times, fought smart at times, and then he goes in there and gets a damn submission victory over Kai Asakura. Luke, this was a flowing Tim Elliott, who had longer hair during the press things this week, shaved it off, and then sat in the corner as the cameras came to him
Starting point is 01:03:48 after the victory and was like, like a G was like, I love this shit. If felt good to see the old guy get the win, but like the old guy looked maybe as good as he looked since the Demetri's Johnson fight. Very impressive. And at first, too, you know, I thought, okay, Asakura lost to Pantoja. All right, well, that's Pantoja. You know what I mean? Like, what you're going to do, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:09 But he shows up here and Elliot at first is doing, you know, and like fart noise. Real weird shit. Yeah. And I didn't love it. But if you watch the final sequence, well, if you watch the final sequence, you got Asakura, who is prone to charge at times, charging, and he's able to get underneath that for the takedown,
Starting point is 01:04:28 and then he just had basically superior grappling from there on out. Like, I'm not, I don't know to what extent he baited him, but it looked like he baited him a little bit, or it kind of encouraged him to go into a little bit more of a defensively vulnerable charge. Dude, he's crafty. Like Tim Elliott was one of the first guys, by the way, and I say this not pejoratively.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Tim Elliott was one of the first guys being like, I'm definitely going to foul people a couple times about because they don't, they don't take a point. So why wouldn't you? And I'm like, right. That's exactly right. Like, why the fuck wouldn't you? He plays the game, BC, in a way where you think, oh, well, he's not very good because he plays the game that way. But it turns out, like in certain dimensions, he does actually have some pretty considerable skill and he'll play it in a veteran way.
Starting point is 01:05:08 He didn't need to do that so much in this particular sense. But again, all of those like, you know, doing the robot shit, I think it threw off Asakura a little bit. He's going to get a high. Look at the result. He'll deserve a pretty high-ranked guy after this win. I mean, it was very redemptive. And also, for people being like, oh, well, Demetrius didn't beat, you know, he beat Tim Elliott. How good is it?
Starting point is 01:05:24 Tim Elliott? Tim Elliott's pretty fucking good, actually. He's definitely traded wins and losses in ways that made him, you know, journeyman or gatekeeper level in recent years. But this was a step up and a very step through, step forward victory. Although Asakura coming from Risen has been a huge disappointment now. Well, that's the flip side of it. So how big of a disappointment? I mean, it puts him into the middle of the pack or worse.
Starting point is 01:05:44 It's not something that, you know, two or three, consecutive wins can't fix, but I also wasn't impressed ultimately with his ability to find ways to exert dominance in the face of Elliott's awkwardness. I mean, he had significant trouble with that. Yes. No, there's simply no question. He didn't really know how to deal with it, to be honest with you. And he's a good puncher and he can be a good wrestler, but I don't know. He's been disappointing in his UFC run. Yeah, Long Island, look, can you can you give me confidence that Kai will bounce back? I think he's still a viable option.
Starting point is 01:06:18 How about, like, Ty versus Steve Erseg? That sounds fun to me. I think it's a winnable fight for both guys. Both guys kind of need... I mean, I know Steve just won, but he still needs, like, a little bump up, you know? I mean, the loser gets really set back, but that's why those fights happen.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Yeah, I mean, the loser would be in terrible position at that point, but you could do it. Where's Ascar Ascarov when we need him? He's with Zabit. Hanging out. Hanging out the winner's circle. Yeah, there you go. Conrad.
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Starting point is 01:07:38 of that? I mean, is he a household name in your household? No, I don't think anyone in my household knows who he is. and what's in any capacity whatsoever. Does he look as doofy as Uncle Eli or did I just cross-in? No, he doesn't look as doofy as Eli or Payton. Okay, but your Valdasta background tells you a vote SEC this year. I'm always one of these guys who, they overcomplicated.
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Starting point is 01:09:01 as non-withdrawable pick-6 bonus picks that expire in 14 days. Ends August 24th, 2025 at 11.59 p.m. Eastern Time. Picks at pick6.draftings.com. slash promos. Well, said, Luke, right there. Well done. I can read in the English language. Wow, let's keep it going, though. Topic number four takes us to what else happened at UFC 319 on the prelims and early prelims.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Hey, how about Chase Hooper bringing that five-fight win streak at lightweight and really becoming a prospect until he ran into Alexander Hernandez and he ran into him in a big way? I think it's fair to really call out the lack of striking in this one by Hooper because he was getting pieced up and then he got. lit up with one second to go in the first round. How improved is Alexander Hernandez, who we've seen at this level before. We've seen him fall apart before. This looked like the best of him all over again. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I don't know. Because Chase Hooper's, Chase Hooper is massively improved. And he looked huge, by the way, in this fight, too. He was massively improved. But now it's Hernandez on the three fight. By the way, he's been the UFC for, like, I don't know how many years now.
Starting point is 01:10:12 almost 10 not quite maybe and this is his first three-fight win streak keep that in mind that's actually kind of nuts that it took him this long to get it especially since his first two fights in the ufc were back-to-back knockout wins over aOM and uh bin old dariush but um wait wasn't the oam a decision or you know it was a big win but the dariush one was a big chaos did the callers just changing here yeah they did just change in here way to go all right it was ken's fault sorry some somebody's got gummies in their tummy and they came to work anyway um i think it's a prerequisite in that. Yeah, what I was going to say, I don't know if I learned a whole lot new.
Starting point is 01:10:46 I mean, he comes prepared, he fights more disciplined, and he fights smarter, and we saw evidence of that, but Chase Hooper, like, I have to go back and review the tape, but it felt to me like his mechanics, he did the Benson Henderson jab, where they lead with the elbow and then extend, like they're doing a tricep flex, which is inherently a much slower way to reach the target, and that's where he got countered, and it's like... So it's more about Chase Hooper falling apart so destructive, not, or disastrously. is probably the better word. I need to double check.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I haven't gone back and rewatch this fight enough to declare exactly what got him into trouble, but I feel like he was getting timed and therefore that's how he got countered. So it's a good job.
Starting point is 01:11:24 It's a good job by Hernandez, but if a guy's got big defensive flaws, you've got to be a little bit careful about overstating the upside. I think I have video that could prove the reason why he got caught. Long Island, Luke,
Starting point is 01:11:34 are you able to pull that Chase Hooper video from, have you seen the shit? Yeah, do you know what number it is? Oh. Number. I don't know. I mean, look at shit, you know. How about it's... You should have seen the outhouse.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Yeah, forget it. All right. You should have seen the porta potty I went to at the Arlington Fair. That's, I don't want to... It looked like the inside looked like the cover of a Cannibal Corpse album. I really don't like this conversation. Luke Lupi Godinez went in there in a pretty good all action back and forth with Jessica Andrage. I was entertained.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Houdinias would get the close nod on the scorecards. How ready is the Mexican for a title shot? at straw? You're not serious, are you? I don't know, but that was a pretty good performance. Don't you agree? I mean, dude, here's what I was going to say. Like, Lupy was teeing off on her using great footwork,
Starting point is 01:12:23 clearly landed the more impactful strikes, despite the one being on the back foot for the majority of that bout. And I thought in general just fought a really smart and, you know, offensively capable contest. What stood out to me, though, BC, was less, you know, okay, Definitely impressed with Godinez. There's only two wins in a row, though, so I'm not fitting out of the crown. But here's the thing for me.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Jessica Androge looks like she's given up a little bit. And what I mean by that is not that she doesn't go in there and try to win, she does, but it doesn't look like she is attempting to technically improve at all, right? You go in and you watch her, she's still throwing these like wild ass arm punches well into round three. And that doesn't mean she's not dangerous. We know she can punch. We know she's strong. But it does mean that if you take a more technical approach,
Starting point is 01:13:12 and you have a good game plan, and you're a great athlete slash wrestler slash, you know, play the levels like Godinez, this is a very winnable contest for you and she has no, she says, Androge, no ability to then make adjustments thereafter. Like she's just right. Like it looks to me like she's made a decision being like, okay, this is my skill set. This is my athletic ability. This is just what it's going to be. And if this wins me a fight, great. If it doesn't win me a fight, it'll win me the next one. I don't know how much I love that from her. I'm with you on that. It has been very back and forth. We did have video. I've missed it on the rundown. I see it now on Alexander Hernandez to close that book. Here is Hernandez explaining why he's been able to turn it back around and win three in a row. I've been a really good mental state too right now.
Starting point is 01:13:55 You know, I had like big balls and average size dick when I first came in here, just like super hubris, you know? And now I feel like I've leveled out and I've got like a good level head on my shoulders and I know how to like, I know how to be in the game, you know what I'm saying? And so now, now, now I know how to like, I know what I'm a vet now. And so I feel like I can execute on my, on my plans, my words better. Do you feel like a bit? That was tremendous.
Starting point is 01:14:16 And Al and Al, and I was just, you didn't prepare me for that, Luke. That's why I picked that one because I was like, BC's going to love this. Wow. What was that? I got, I had big balls. Big balls in an average sized hog, something like that. Wow, that was fantastic. So that is, that tells that story of him coming back.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I mean, he's always a fun fighter, so I want to see that. I want to see Lupi get an opportunity here to climb these rankings because beating just Condrage at this point still matters. Still matters. Even though she's becoming an over 40, Dan Henderson who just stands there with the right-hand cocked, you know, she doesn't move her head. I mean, at all, Luke, after all these years and winning a championship. I think she's giving up a little bit. Like, I'm just going to be who I am, and that's what, you know, is what it is.
Starting point is 01:14:53 And you're going to shut up and enjoy it. Yeah, and she's still ranked, by the way. Let's go over to 39-year-old Edson Barbosa, who went in there against Dracar close. And it's certainly the end of times in a lot of ways for Barbosa, but he's been coming in great shape. He's still been fighting good fighters. He had lost to Lorone Murphy by decision last time out. only this time, Luke, he took a lot of punishment against Dracar Close. Were you shocked?
Starting point is 01:15:16 Edson looked bad. He looked bad. I mean, he still looks, like, physically. You look at him and you're like, wow, he's jacked, you know? I mean, that two-fight win streak not too long ago when he killed Billy Q and then he beat Sadiq Yusuf. Yeah, but then, you know, he goes down to 45 and he goes three and three. It didn't really change his fortunes. So he comes back to 55, and Dracar Close is a good fighter.
Starting point is 01:15:37 But it felt like, you heard Daniel Cormier talking about it. Like, it just looked like Barbosa's reactions to getting hit were just, they're concerning. Did you look at the amount of abuse that this dude has taken in his career? And it's extraordinary. And now he's starting to move in a very lumbered way. It's getting there. It's getting to the end, I think, for me. So, Jacarclos did the right thing.
Starting point is 01:15:57 He had, like, this pressure boxing style, and it broke through. He did his job. Great win for him. But I'm a little concerned for Barbosa. Did you side anywhere on what I thought was a pretty good women's flyweight bout with Karini Silva and Deoni Barbosa, but a lot of it. of people had issues with the scoring yeah i thought the school how did you score that one long island luke barboza definitely won that fight that was pretty shocking when karine got her hand raised but i did
Starting point is 01:16:19 koreen by decision so i'll take oh on the bet yeah you did you did the you did the two-way hedge like you like one person to win but then you bet the other way so no matter what you just asked me how i scored it when i was watching it i thought damn karine lost i lost my bed and i was like oh yeah i thought that this was a um i thought barboza looked pretty good had some good judo some good top control good jab for long portions of this and pretty good pressure throughout but scoring was fucking weird oh let's talk about mihail olik shakak that middleweight two fights now with the fighting nerds two camps and he's got two wins but none more disarming than this big time ko of gm three gerald meershow who's looking a little old who's looking a little old then some guy at the post
Starting point is 01:16:58 fight press conference was like pepper and dana of like you're going to make this guy retire like you know like is this it for him should he be taking shots like that look he got folded how much of this is about Mihal going to a new camp. He'd been through wars. He'd won some. He'd lost some. He does look refocused, sharper and more dangerous. He just looks more confident.
Starting point is 01:17:15 It looks like he knows he can do more things. So it opens him up. He's not so focused on one way or the other. You know, is he beating guys that tell you like, oh, wow, he's completely revolutionized this game. We don't know that yet. This was a great win, a super solid name, certainly. But the ease with which he dispatched him both tells me that I feel like Oleg Sheshik has really
Starting point is 01:17:36 leaned into what the fighting nerds have given him. Yeah. But at the same time, I feel like Mearshaar, you know, again, I didn't love the body language. No, I didn't either. He's taken punishment. He's got like 18 losses, too. Like, he's been through it, dude.
Starting point is 01:17:49 I may be off by one or two. 37 years old, which is not a death sentence. Yeah, 37 and 20 he is. Oh, my God. He's been through it. We got to talk in that same division, though, what was the featured pre-lim middleweight, Bisingar Sousukaiyev,
Starting point is 01:18:02 who had won on Tuesday night's Dana White Contender Series, trains with Chimayev got the opportunity on four days notice against a very game, Eric Nolan, who was in a different way class too and stepped up. In the end, it would be at the end of the round two that Bisonger would score the submission. He did get hit cleanly a few times. What do you make overall? It wasn't perfect. It was throwing together last minute.
Starting point is 01:18:25 There was a lot against him, but also a lot going for him. I think overall, this felt like a win to show you that this guy feels like he's a savage and he's ready to arrive. Yeah, but he was getting tuned up a little bit. by a guy who's not even a natural middleweight. He's more of a welterweight. How much were you scared by that on his future? I wouldn't say that, oh, my God, now I'm panicking about him long term.
Starting point is 01:18:45 But what I would say is, hey, we're not going to do the Homsot thing where we just rush this guy to the front, are we? Because it looks to me like he does have considerable ability. But it also looks to me like there's some things that could be tightened up and we have no need to rush him. Let's not rush him. I agree with that. But I want to see more of him.
Starting point is 01:19:05 and I want to see more of him soon. He talked about making another quick turnaround as well. As long as it's appropriate, you know, a level of competition, I'm okay with that. I hear you on that one. Anything else you want to point to on this? Joseph Morales won the ultimate fighter are great. Does it matter anymore? No.
Starting point is 01:19:19 All right. There you go. Nice win. Nice win. Long now, Luke, you got anything to say? It was an upset for Joseph Morales. Also another UFC veteran to win tough. I think that's like the second season in a row.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Yeah, that tells you the show's doing great. I know. Yeah, all right. Coming to Paramount very soon, probably. No, actually, it's not. That in the Dana White Contender series do not have... And we don't know about Road to UFC. Do not have TV homes.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Did you hear that? Did I hear accurately that Paramount chose to pay more to not have to take some power slap? No, I think I actually heard that. I think I actually heard that. They're like, we hate that so fucking much. We're going to give you money to stop asking us about it. Like, hell yeah. Yeah, dude, nobody wants that shit.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Hell yeah. Nobody wants that shit. Wow. Loved it. All right, topic number five, hey, the heavyweight division has a new hope, certainly. and 20-year-old Moses I Tauma, who stepped up his level of competition aggressively in the form of 37-year-old Dillian White
Starting point is 01:20:11 in just his 13th pro fight. But now we will continue to have this discussion of, is he ready, should he go for it all now with undisputed champion Alexander Usik because it took less than one round and the ease in which Moses Atama hurt Dili and White, backed him into the ropes, and then was both patient and aggressive at the same time somehow
Starting point is 01:20:33 and just how he lit up White with combinations dropped him once. White stumbled upon beating the 10 count fell into the ropes and the fight was waved off. Luke Thomas, I know there's always going to be that cynical part of boxing Twitter and they were out there saying, well, yeah, white was old and stop fighting bombs like, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't know how that is your reaction. I know we don't know yet about the chin, about the 12-round stamina, about all that stuff. I'm not saying it has to be Usik next, but are you not entertained?
Starting point is 01:21:01 Are you not excited? This kid is a phenom offensively. He's the Tom Aspinall of heavyweight boxing, except he doesn't put his chin in the air. He's much craftier. He has much... Dude, I watched this fight. I turned it on because I was actually in my office
Starting point is 01:21:16 and then I saw on Twitter, they're like, oh, they're doing ring walks now. So I pulled the fight up, and I'm watching this. Dude, I cannot overstate to you the ease with which he dispatched Dillian White. Not just what you can see, like, oh, he landed two punches, compi box says, two punches that White landed.
Starting point is 01:21:30 And then, of course, that it only went a couple of minutes, basically. But I'm just saying when you watch him, he would effortlessly faint. Can I say this about Moses Itama? People are like, oh, you have to faint to set something up. But not everyone, like, fainting itself is a skill. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:45 You have to sell it. And there's a level of salesmanship and how good you can make it. Dude, the salesmanship, you had white looking at that, bringing his hands all the way down. Because the combos are so fast when they do you land. And he's able to take these, like, big hard steps
Starting point is 01:21:58 because he's athletically can shift his weight. back and forward. So you, of course, you think it's coming. And then, dude, here's the other part, too. He'll do that, get a reaction, go to the body, and then get a tiny reaction. And then build off that immediately. So he's able to make immediate reads and build, build, build, build, build. He's the best heavyweight prospect in all of combat sports by a million miles. He's fucking awesome. He is so dynamic. Offensively, it's ridiculous. It's effortless. It seems like at least 75% of his combos have a body shot in it. Sometimes he leads with it. Sometimes it ends with it. So he is constantly leaving you perplexed where he is going to have a chance to knock
Starting point is 01:22:40 out early a ton of elite heavyweight. So like that's the real question of like how much is too much too soon for all the talk coming in about Usik. After the win, Utama, it wasn't like he said he hasn't wanted. He kept saying the fans can decide. And then he said like, look, you know, he reiterated that Joseph Parker and Ajik Kabayel are. more deserving, but he's willing to enter the negotiation and put his name in the hat. But then you started to hear his team, particularly coach Ben Davison, who's still just 28 himself, by the way, and has already coached Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in big-time heavyweight championship fights.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Luke, now they're talking about, well, we would actually like him to get some rounds first. They mentioned Jermaine Franklin, a veteran in this division who lost to Dillon White a couple fights ago that potentially could give him rounds. Some people were thinking Derek Chesora, you know, a lot of names being thrown around. Deante Wilder, what do you do here? He wants it and is willing to fight Usik. Has he proved that he's ready? No, is Usik the, maybe the only one that could really, really exploit and expose him?
Starting point is 01:23:42 Hard to say, because we've never seen, um, we've never seen him past six rounds as a pro. And now 11 of his 13 fights in total have not gotten out of round two. So what do you do? Here's the plan. It's an attraction fight. Turkey wants it. came out afterwards. Turkey is saying a bunch of bullshit.
Starting point is 01:24:02 There is no good reason to make the Ussk fight, except you just want to rush a guy because he is brilliant and he is interesting, but the notion that you can just put him in front of Ucic and, listen, Itama is dangerous enough where I think he, on the right day in the right moment, he could potentially beat any heavy weight in the world. However, the risk you could run with him getting tuned up by Ucic over the course of, you know, six rounds or more is also real and it makes no sense to do that. He needs a class of heavyweight guys who are young enough just to give him rounds, BC.
Starting point is 01:24:34 So not even, like, let's not even go Dubois level. I would not even, I would not even go to the next step on the- Yeah, exactly. Like, I know that the pressure is all there to rush him because you've got, oh my God, you can tell what the future is going to be. Keep him busy, but give him the right names. Give him heavyweights that can push him past six and really make him have to lean on it and earn it. That's what he needs.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Mike Tyson's rise taught you that because there were actually guys that pushed him to 10 and 12 rounds where you're like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, he can't beat Mike Tyson's record for the youngest heavyweight. That's 20 years and four months. Tom will be 21 in December. So I get what you're saying. There's no need to rush it. What about somewhere in between? What about Big Bang Zhang?
Starting point is 01:25:21 You could do it. But you may not get rounds anyway. Yeah, I mean, he might do the speed difference between him and bang is going to be significant. Big a bang, yeah. You know, he's going to bang them. They're going to have sex. Damn, I cannot leave the ease. Let's go to some videos here.
Starting point is 01:25:36 First, we have Utama's father laughing. Is this weird? Yeah, you got to listen to this. Listen to this shit. The man responsible or is it, mom? Is there a giant venture? Can I ask you a question as well? Can you recreate that, please?
Starting point is 01:25:50 Oh, ho, ho, ho. Yo, how about the warlock, right? My guy. Yeah, he's, he's weird. Dude, come on. I love him, but he's weird. if he was like if he was like our sidekick
Starting point is 01:26:00 you know how like inside the NBA eventually brought on Shaq and we're like well work with the chemistry let me tell you something I've had to take car rides with Garrett yeah they're wild he is a close talker and he will share details
Starting point is 01:26:11 you absolutely did not ask for here is Moses Atama himself reacting to this win talking about the future because you know what like a lot of people think that I want to be a superstar a lot of people think that I like the bright lights
Starting point is 01:26:24 like I just like being a boxer something that I've always done I've been doing it since I was nine years old. So if I don't do it, I feel out of place. I don't feel comfortable in myself. So I'm not doing it to be a superstar or whatnot. Michael Buffett did, came up to me. It came up to me after the fight.
Starting point is 01:26:41 It said, Wembley next. I'm not bothered wherever I'm fighting. Wembley and you'll call whatnot. I just know that I need to box. I know that I need to do it. If not, then I don't feel comfortable with myself. All right. I don't need the Usyk fight next.
Starting point is 01:26:56 But I do wonder what Turkey's heart for it will mean can frank warren talk him out of it if that's not i don't even want germain franklin because i don't think franklin can win that fight i would want an in-between where you're like okay if this person does push him to round six seven eight then at least we're learning something there yeah yeah so it doesn't have to be franklin i don't want wilder wilder's going to get that's a terrible he'll fucking smoke wilder yeah somebody who can push him a little is what you need that's it auto valine i'd take that even though a j sent him to the deepest darkest I'd take that.
Starting point is 01:27:27 I'd take that. He also, he's a bit chinny, and this is a kind of a speed problem, so I don't know. Here's promoter Frank Warren of Queensberry talking about what could be next. That was a statement. You know, nobody's ever done that to a deal, and you look at what the fighters he's been with over the years. You look at the condition he'd come in at. He was very confident. And, you know, even when you look at his losses, they've been to, you know, real good quality fighters, world championship fights.
Starting point is 01:27:52 And look at the hard fights he's given people. The fights he's won. Look at his eyes. And then you look at the. this 20-year-old who got in there and just done something special. I'm going to say something now that, you know, at his age, and the amount of fights he's had, he's the best
Starting point is 01:28:04 time. Right? You're calling him reptilians? What's going on here? But he's got these bug eyes, like, it's like, dude, I think you need a good night's sleep, my man. Yeah, then you can figure out who's next. But hey, breakthrough in for Atama, let's keep him busy. Let's keep this coming. Let's transition now from our five topics to you, the
Starting point is 01:28:20 fan, because every Sunday night at morning combat on X and the IG we give you an opportunity to potentially be heard, especially if your name is Flannels and Jits, or Daz when you used to Mahalo our ass. Hey, this one's called DMs from the diggity donks.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Boy, that sounds like forced masturbation, doesn't it? That sounds like me when I get on ex-hamster.com. Don't get on anywhere, please. Let's hear the first question. Here do we got. Or see you. From Flannels and Jits. Yes, that guy's got great jizzu. It's Luke. Do you think someone like Craig Jones will be able to have
Starting point is 01:28:56 a good strategy to counteract Homzat's grappling. Yep. I'm telling you the fact that DDP spent all of these times stuck in control positions is going to give people like Craig Jones, and not just him, but others, a sense of just reverse engineer. What do you do to have to prevent this?
Starting point is 01:29:13 And what do you have to do once you're here to get to some kind of next place that you have to be? They're going to figure it out. I'm telling you. What if Ancolaev beats Pereira in the rematch, do you not see Chimaev looking to... I think Uncleayev mops up, Jamaya.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Mops up is an aggressive way to say it. I don't think Chimai has, I don't think Chimov can win three rounds against him, no. And do you think it's likely the UFC would allow him to go to Welterweight? No, they want to protect Ilya Islam like they should, right? Yeah, I mean, right now, Islam, dude, they're going to, I mean, Islam is their, you know, top guy in many respects, and I think they're going to give him some. Would you argue that Chameh's best potential blockbuster fight is Pereira, if he, if he wins back the 205? I think the biggest one he's got now
Starting point is 01:29:56 is honest Strickland probably but like in terms of like a real threat to him yeah but also a fight with real meaning him trying to become a two division champion not that I'm saying you have you should do it soon middleweight's very over I don't know I think Uncle I might win and well I guess we'll see
Starting point is 01:30:11 I don't know what's going to happen all right what else you got here are no Cedar let's hear from this person Amanda and his cat he says why does it seem that so many fighters in this generation have an issue coming from other promotions to the UFC We talked about it recently from the Bellator PFL guys,
Starting point is 01:30:27 but history has shown mixed results across the board in all of the mergers, as you said earlier. Yeah, but also like, you know, multiple champions came from the Strike Force merger, multiple champions came from the WEC merger. Would you say the UFC like New York City is just a melting pot of different cultures coming together in different backgrounds?
Starting point is 01:30:46 Yes, although New York less racist than MMA culture, which is amazing. think about it. That is true. But I would just say that again, I think that because UFC is in a different place than it was 11th. No, the Strike Force merger was what? Like, I mean, basically 13, 14 years ago. Yeah. A long time ago, MMA was in a different place at that time. And I just think now you're just getting much more of the championship caliber kind of pooling in and around UFC. So, yeah. Yeah, I was on a car ride to the Mohegan Sun to cover a Bellator card when that news broke. which one oh the ufc purchasing strike force i was uh i was uh i just got out of the shower
Starting point is 01:31:28 and i looked at my phone and i was like what the fuck that's funny because you've always said of all the things that happened in your life you always remember where you were in two spots when ufc bought strike forces in 9-11 unfortunately i was in my college dorm room yeah i mean i didn't bring down the mood unit e i really didn't on the row look yeah i think i have good shit to it for today it's only you can judge i mean i've found fire lately fire is a strong word all right You've won a couple rounds. Let's see the next DM from Pentameter 9. As someone in attendance, I thought that this card overall was great.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Crazy and plentiful matchups, a very hype crowd. I'll give them that. The main event was a letdown, but a major C change. What is your pick for card of the year so far? I'm assuming he means in the UFC pay-per-view. That's a question for Long Island, Luke. I don't know what the answer to that would be. What is the-I-F-W, 3-17?
Starting point is 01:32:18 That card was bangers. I didn't even, I was camping. I watched it the next day. oh you're right that was ilia and uh charles yeah what was the co-man on that what i can't process icar and pantosia yeah what was the other attraction on that yeah uh patent talbot diego lima that was good uh josh van brandon roeval that was really good yes okay that fight yes i was in the studio in stanford on hq for that fight like i was last night i remember just feeling that like if the fights can all be if the cards can be like that yeah that was it
Starting point is 01:32:49 and then ilia came and just fucking lowered the boom but saturday was good Yeah, I think the main event wasn't let down, but he's right. I think overall the car was pretty great, yeah. Yeah, well done there. We've got another one from the DMs. This is from Stephen Armitt, Armitt age 89, or Stephen Armatage or Stephen Armitt. I'm not really sure.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Who laid the bigger egg? Cyril Gahn versus Jones or Dillian White versus Etama. Wow, that's pretty close here. No, gone. Gone was more self-induced. Gone just looked helpless by making bad choices. white looked helpless at the you know uh in front of a pack of wolves you know what i mean like i love when when dana's retelling history and he's like john jones just beat the baddest heavyweight
Starting point is 01:33:34 active alive and serial ghan he'd always like throw that extra line in you know yeah no gone gone's decision making is for white was just yeah dude he had no chance just seeing what just seeing what italma did to him it's like you were never going to win this fucking fight man yeah i'm with you on that one uh our final dm question coming from a donk named Taekwondo No, Taekwond dude memes Tyquan dude meme I mean it's hard to figure these out Luke
Starting point is 01:33:59 You know, it is kind of hard Why do MMA fans get so defensive When people point out that some cards are absolute nubs Fans of the other sports I follow Are always quick to declare some games as bad And don't lose fan status Is that because fans of those sports Sometimes aren't concerned
Starting point is 01:34:17 With the trajectory of the sport as much Because sometimes in the fight game like you are even as a promotion only as good as your last few cards sometimes, right? Fight sports will always occupy a place where the degree to which they entertained you will hold more importance than they will in other sports. It's simply the reality. And more sport in other sports, particularly ones where there are points involved, you know, the amount that is paid to just did you get the dub, did you not get the dub?
Starting point is 01:34:44 These are the things that they really count. Combat sports is an entertainment business. It's real sport, but it's an entertainment business. and there's just always going to be more focus on to what degree was the audience entertained. Your answers will vary. It will matter more to some, less to others, but that general concern is always going to be higher here.
Starting point is 01:35:05 There you go. Still, we could use a few more American champions and a few more exciting champions. You know, I mean, I think you can say both things. You know what's one thing we didn't discuss about in the UFC Paramount thing I was thinking about? The UFC will hold pay-per-views, for example, on occasion in the UK.
Starting point is 01:35:23 And they will, obviously, in October, go to Abu Dhabi. But they've been holding them, for the majority of their existence, they've been holding nearly all of the pay-per-view in the United States or Canada because that was your number one pay-per-view-buying audience. The U.S. and in North America more broadly. But if you're getting rid of them, why can't you just take your numbered events
Starting point is 01:35:44 to anywhere that you want? I wonder if the starting time matters? Starting time is always going to be a limiting factor, But, you know, you are freed from one big limiting factor, which is you don't care if this sells paper views. Yeah, but when you're saying, when Mark Shapiro is saying publicly that they want to simulcast every event on CBS, that could... Every numbered event. Every numbered event. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:36:06 I meant that. And then that could really change. That could stunt the growth. Yeah. A little bit of a mixed messaging between he and Dana White. Dana White. Yeah, one a quarter. And I'm like...
Starting point is 01:36:17 I wonder if Dana just wasn't briefed up to the... I know people think that Dana's the one in charge and I'm like that's also a major part I'm not sure how true that is anymore indeed those are your DMs for the week hopefully we now you have talked a gang of shit I didn't talk a gang of shit I talked you texted me yesterday you're like yo bro
Starting point is 01:36:34 wait until you motherfucking see this batch that did not that is not what I did mention I had a good batch though I didn't have no breaches all weekend seriously sharing that with me right now it's so disgusting I scoured the globe on yesterday for the highs and low the good, the bad, the ugly, and the in between in the world of combat sports and beyond. This is a long one, but I hope it gets a good reaction from Luke. It's called, Have You Seen my shit, colonel?
Starting point is 01:37:01 Yeah, hoo-ah, somebody's drinking. Hey, big weekend for Daniel Cormier. Luke, he got carried like a baby, not once, but twice by Hamzat Chamaev in public. You know, it's so funny. I saw people being like, wow, it's really strong of Hamzot to do that. to a 350-pound man. I mean... And I'm like, guys, D.C. is a little fat, but he's not 350.
Starting point is 01:37:24 I don't know. We'll get into that in a second. Here's the second time with D.C. commenting over video of it when they were clowning him for it on the UFC weigh-in show. Can we talk about how Tami have swung you around like a little baby this week? What was that like? I was terrified. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Do you see that strong? He's one of the easily stronger than you. He's one of the strongest human beings I've ever felt my life. Did you jump up or did you sag your hip? He just, no, he just picked me up. I just picked me up. I'm trying to drop. I try to drop. You're sagging your hips and still.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Why'd you spread your legs like that in the air? I thought to myself, whee! You're like, hey, dog. That way and show is the best thing that they do other than the fights. It is very, very funny. Here's the hilarious tweet here from Super Kalo. In fact, Chimai of picking up Cormier is more impressive than Hogan slamming under the Giants statistically from Russellmania 3.
Starting point is 01:38:14 If Chimmy of is 1-8, or Chimney is 185. You know Super Cal is like a big tree? control account, right? Oh, yeah, he's great. Okay. And Cormier, 350, that's a 255 pound difference. But look, the numbers don't lie. Hogan, 302 pounds, Andre 500. Look at that. That is much more, much. Yeah. By the way, Hogan would change the story every time over the years and say he tore his bicep, then the next story would be he tore his back all the way. Do you know what that C4 sounded, that tasted like? What? It tasted like how much Joe, it tasted like. It tasted like how much Hulk Hogan loves the N-word. That's how much it tasted like. All right. D.C. also helped produce the soundbite of the week for this segment when he got Chimaev to say this. Well, look at me, but look at me. Look at my face. Look at your face. This beautiful, black skin, caramel. Your skin? Chechnine. Not beautiful like mine. That needs to be beautiful. What you need to be? World champion?
Starting point is 01:39:08 Girls like turrets. You're so crazy. You can't say that. Okay. I have a joke, you. I know you are. Okay, that was a good one. That was a decent line. That was a decent line. That was a pretty decent.
Starting point is 01:39:20 By the way, he shouted out, did you see? He didn't shout out Kederov by name, but he shouted out the Kederov Jim by name. Oh, I didn't hear that. Kederov's going to be caged like one of these times with Trump. It's just a matter of time. Pretty wild. Here's also D.C. getting a little suss with Jaron Kadynear on the scale. He looks great for 41.
Starting point is 01:39:38 What is going on here? If I had a body like Jared Kahnoneer, I would pull oil on me. If I go away it. I just have oil all over my body. Is that before after you leave Annix room? I would hit the way in stage and just slide on my stomach. All right, 315 at least. Right, all right.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Also, DC got sent to hell on social media by Jack Della Madelana. Did you see this? No. The only way K.O. The pay-per-view company in Australia can redeem themselves is with the DC mute button. You know what? J.D.M. People, people, he, he produces big reactions, and I have to say,
Starting point is 01:40:17 Out of all my problems with the various UFC commentators, I don't share a lot of the negative DC sentiment. He's hilarious to me. I like him as a whole usually, but he, the last two cards, he's one, he said, oh, that's not even under. That's not even type and they tapped a second later. I'm not, I'm not, listen, I'm not making an argument that there are not legitimate criticism. Him and Joe do that all the time. Him and Joe have, they have, they, they, they, they suck helium and have goofball hour on there. And also, he didn't know Capoeira was an actual martial art.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Yeah, that was, and I was like, holy fuck, that's kind of bad. you don't know that, but, but I think there's a lot of, like, you know, going after him that I don't support. That was like the ESPN lady with the Barry Sanders jersey. That was rough as well. Let's keep it going here. Speaking of fat fellas, listen to this. Did you ever play hide and seek?
Starting point is 01:41:01 Yeah, as a kid, yeah. I mean, how did that go? You're right. Well, done right there. That's that dude, Matan. Yeah, he's fucking hilarious. Look, here's a preview of you trying to navigate your new e-bike with your now that you're a member of thick boy's bike,
Starting point is 01:41:16 bros or whatever we're calling them. What's he doing? Okay, what do you doing? Oh! Your tire's that big, Luke? They're thicker than a normal tire, but they're not like that. Okay. Luke, you know how much I love soccer. Finally, someone telling the truth.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Like you have interesting taste. That is. Despite a 29-year effort by the MLS, soccer is never broken into the mainstream in the United States. Instead, being far outpaced by the NFL and their $18 billion yearly. profit. It's because soccer's... Dog, do you think you're cool for not liking soccer? I mean, I didn't. I didn't...
Starting point is 01:41:58 Serious question. Do you think that makes you cool? Finally, someone spoke up, Luke. You're not cool for that. I hope you know that. Luke, it's time for regional combat sports where, of course. Anything can happen. Anything can happen. Let's go to Tom Laughler's 360 promotions. Watch this little piece of business between Estin Palique-te and Aston. Abel Mejia, they both go down, but watch Mejia here after he rises. They're going to rally? Okay, putting it on him here.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Yeah. Well, these are nice. And he would get him out of there right after they both would go down. We also saw a banger with that Philip Urgevich fight on the DeZone undercar. I missed that one. No. They both went down in round eight, and Ergevich got up to stop him. What about Itama versus Urgevich?
Starting point is 01:42:42 That's a decent idea. That is a decent idea. Ergevich can box a little bit. A little bit. Not as... Yeah, okay. Let's go over to RXF MMA and... Let's make a referee here.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Yo! Okay, yeah. Like a drunk at a bar. That's bouncer style. Dude, when the ref says fucking stop, they mean it. Luke, now we mix together the unknown of regional MMA with some elder abuse. Watch this fight. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:43:13 I don't think we need senior MMA. Let me see that one more time. We'll play that shit. CTE Society, noise. Oh, good Lord. Wow. All right, now we can transition into some actual. He probably got paid nothing for that since they're wearing shin pads.
Starting point is 01:43:32 That means it's amateur. Here's some bonus all their abuse. It's on the card. Let's see. Says, I've taken four shits today. That's what I said you earlier. I know. It's the same level of harassment.
Starting point is 01:43:46 I mean, this lady's days going to be changed from knowing that now in a bad way. Oh, Luke, new game alert. Are you ready? I show you the way someone acts in a clip. You tell me if it's lame, game, or Hall of Fame. Okay. So there's levels to this. Here's their first guy in the elevator.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Are you guys going up? Yes. Something for you. Is it going to fart on this? Are you spooky? Are you okay? No, you're getting one more. You're not going to lock.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Lame. Lame? Come on. That's at least game right there, no. You do that to your friends, not fucking strangers. You do it to the first class section of every airplane. Okay, that is class politics, and I should be commended for it. All right, let's go to the concert, Luke.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Bring a pit stick. Make sure that these disgusting people. Okay, that's game. That's game. That's Hall of Fame. It's game. It's not Hall of Fame, but I'll play ball with that one. All right, Ray, this guy's lame gamer Hall of Fame rating.
Starting point is 01:44:46 going to get four meat rockets and a dipping plate filled with mustard. That's Hall of Fame. Yeah, and he's sweat in what order. Look at this man. He is ready to die for these glizzies. That's what I'm talking about. All right, we go to Washington, D.C. Excuse me, for this one, Luke.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Lamegamer Hall of Fame as the cops walk in on this guy. The fucker? Oh, the sandwich thrower? Oh, yeah. There's a $5 foot long, bitch. He's just protesting Jerry. He's just protesting. People protesting the cops now in the city.
Starting point is 01:45:15 and get it. Motherfucker. Just like he became a symbol of resistance. So is that, what do you think? You got to rate him here. Oh, that's a Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah. They charged him with a fucking felony for that, by the way.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I'm not surprised. One more. Here's the Yankee security guard. Oh, hell. Yeah. Hall of motherfucking fame. He's keeping us safe. Same as me, brother.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Same as me. All right, let's circle back to UFC 319. We got a nice ChamaFlex in the crowd. Rate that tat, his right bicep lute. That's a five out of four out of ten. Okay. You're all right with this? I mean, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Obviously, becoming a champ in getting the belt tattooed, it conceptually sounds good, but the execution of that is real ass. Okay. Here's the Chase Hooper video I was talking about from Embedded. Maybe we should have saw this as a warning sign. There's been a lot of memes this week about me being, you know, on the hood side, this one, you know.
Starting point is 01:46:12 They added me into the lineup on the hood guys the card. You want to help me fit the du rag on you on? I feel like I'm proposing. He's getting knighted. This is me co-signing him wearing a du rat. So anybody trying to throw some racist remarks around, he was co-signed by a hood official. Certified? I now knight Sir Jamal Chase for work. I think I'm certified now, so. Come on. Certified. Luke he went hood
Starting point is 01:46:46 He got Catoed afterwards Yeah, Malibu's Most Wanted It also reminds me of Tough Night Mr. McMahon during his run as ECW champion when he would drop the N-word, Luke. I mean, pro wrestling is just absurd, right? He did? Oh, you don't know that famous
Starting point is 01:47:01 clip to John Cena? No. Like, what's up my? My N-word? Yeah, yeah. It was part of the storyline apparently, Luke. Dude, WW.W.E's a gross-ass company, isn't it? Yeah, okay. Speaking of the way-in show, they had John Anna play F. Mary Kill. I think you'll like this. You have Brian Stan.
Starting point is 01:47:18 You have Daniel Cormier and you have Dominic Cruz. You know the game, F. Mary Kill. Let's go. John Kill me out of the second place. So I have to have sex with one of these gentlemen. Yeah, I mean, theoretically speaking. Let's say straight in on a desert island. So, I mean, I'm definitely marrying Brian Stan.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I think that goes without saying. He probably not going to cheat on you. That's a good husband. A platonic relationship, though, Stan, because I do not want to sleep with you. You know, D.C. be too hard. DC be too hard to kill, you know. So I think I try to kill Cruz and D.C. will have, you know, our one-night stand and move on with them. It'll be a nice little of passion.
Starting point is 01:47:55 You guys, man, of all the questions I expected here today, yes, this is the biggest fight of the year, our main event. I did not expect to have to sleep with D.C. This is a different way and show than what I did eight years ago. Yeah, it is. Oh, yeah. Hey, D.C. Room 1802. well played by anic right there dude and to get stand back is he going to be announcing fights i would love for him to be back i don't know he has another job still i don't know that was awesome to see right there all right i lost my spot in it uh let's keep the fun going here
Starting point is 01:48:25 to here we go uh you know if we put a punch in punch bag machine you know where you rate your power you'll let you'll usually end up in this segment yeah yeah yeah yeah no beat it beat it yes I feel this soy coming out there. I feel like to cheat something. I feel like a chicken show lady. What's the fuck? What? Is that a skin?
Starting point is 01:48:51 Is that AI? What happened right there? Dude, are you showing me fucking domestic violence? I don't know what that was. Oh, hey, it's time for your question of the week. Let's go to Rick Ross on the radio. It's a little uncomfortable. I have another question.
Starting point is 01:49:02 You won't mind me asking. Go ahead. You don't mind. No, I'm a lip service person, so. Okay, I like the way that sound. But, uh... Are you a squirder? Oh, you know, I tried to ask that in an HR meeting one time, and they didn't like that, you know.
Starting point is 01:49:20 You seen that shit? Let's go to some rugby or Aussie Rules football. I don't know, but apparently they do double oil changes in this game. It's Aussie Rules, baby. This is some Aussie rules. Watch. Okay. This is how you were conceived.
Starting point is 01:49:31 I mean, what is, is this playing a little ass grab in the park with the, the, I mean, touchbuttler? What is this? Oh, my God. In Australia, I don't know if you know this, they jack off each other to males will jack off each other as a greeting. That's a true story. Okay. That's a true story. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Let's go to this meme. Okay. All right. I just want to point out, I just want to point out that half of the humor on this segment is violence against women. I mean, it randomly became that today, but it's not a typical. It's a little. I got to tell you, it's a little much. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Hey, this week in facials, let's go to the soccer pitch. Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday. Oh, my God. But it didn't stop there, Luke. Let's go to the sidelines. That was insane. Let's go to NFL practice. Watch out Pam Oliver.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Oh, here it is. Backup quarterback. Chandler Harnished throws, and Pam Oliver, wham. Let me tell you, that ball was. right okay are you okay at home i'm trying to make are you and the wife having problems at home what is the what the fuck are you making me watch here today let's go to the golf course and see i think you have to yell four for this luke good solid contact
Starting point is 01:51:00 right to the pebbles look wow that is great that's why they call it pebble beach indeed indeed all right let's we got to cleanse the palate here it's been a little rough here let's go to cake lady what do you got for us this week. Oh, God! Yo, what the fuck are you doing? Oh, my. Yeah, why don't you just eat the chair,
Starting point is 01:51:21 you fucking goat? You billy goat. Are you going to eat the trash, too? You unbelievable skank. Okay, that's very aggressive. All right. The only thing that could save us from that are crowd fights, Luke.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Let's go over to the high level of the upper deck hair. It ain't worth it, bro. It ain't worth it. People fighting other people from elevated positions. Didn't we learn in episode three of Star Wars? It just seems like a bad idea. Oh, brother.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Dude, Obi-on had the high ground for a reason. Yeah, I mean, you know, again, it's like shooting fish in a barrel trying to attack someone from an elevated position. Let's go to the Los Angeles Angels crowd. I'm not sure what the... Here's how I finish. Oh, my God, soccer kicks, too. Dude, this is nuts today, right?
Starting point is 01:52:19 Dude, why did they let Raiders fans into the game? I don't know. Let's flash back to my favorite MMA interview of all time. Is it heavy? It is heavy. Can I touch it? Absolutely. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Let me get on my tip of toes. You got it? Yes, I think that's enough. I don't think that's how that interview actually went. One more for you. Here's Grandma. you know that phone smells gracious
Starting point is 01:52:45 you know that she whipped that phone out and immediately you were like wow I didn't know we were at the wharf this segment has just run its course today I think we found the limits well you're like here we're just going to look at murders of women on the side of the road I mean you know I'm trying to be non-gender specific you know everyone can get it
Starting point is 01:53:04 I think you need one more pass with the editor on that one so North Korea did approve that that's all the shit It's amazing what the North Korean censors will approve and what they won't approve. Well, they were against murdering for a while, but all right, you can buy our merch, by the way, morningcombat.combat.compt shop, there you go. Exclusives for the end of August here,
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Starting point is 01:53:44 and to make the show more kid friendly maybe we should clean up that thing do we have kids watching this show i hope i don't think we do we have wives i hope not i don't know if you're gonna have a wife after this show that's a fair point that's a fair point uh long island luke of the main card minute fame um prop quiz prop quiz fame check out that episode of luke and i on prop quiz the new main card minute vehicle uh what can the people expect from you for the rest of your life you can expect a new episode of prop quiz hopefully later in the week uh contender series watch along tomorrow bet breakdowns and saturday also how about this for dedication Saturday that's shanghai card 3 a.m start you know i'm doing the full card no no no those prelims are actually good look at
Starting point is 01:54:29 you're waking up you know what he's not doing getting married it's if it's 3 a.m you must be lonely all right you know what i mean she said baby yeah baby man that's he's cornering the market how long have you dated this girl seven years oh how long have you been living together uh three years four years and what is she saying about there's a lot of time committed the next step you know that's we're in we're in discussions with you know things are moving wow yeah wow seven year girlfriend it's a that's quite a niche uh what do you think about him cornering the market of lower end mMA nobody is going to beat this guy to the live stream in this stuff. Are you going to live stream tough, too?
Starting point is 01:55:10 No, I will say Gaff's also helping me corner the market. Gaff did PFL on Friday. Even I didn't. Liz Karmouche won. Yeah, shout out to Liz Karmouche for that win. So she wins the tournament at women's, uh, what was that? Flyweight. Flyweight, okay. And Alfie Davis got a big upset against Gadzi Robinov. Yeah, he beat him out of no, it was like a plus 2,000 underdog, something insane number. Interesting. And he got the job done. What is, what's next for PFL? Do they have more divisions that have yet to have the tournament final? I mean, the only one I'm, really counting on is, they must have
Starting point is 01:55:39 some more, but the one I'm counting on is the rematch. That's October 3rd. Yeah, the Nirmarga Madov and Paul Hughes rematch. What do you think about Corey O.T. Anderson, friend of the program in the co-main for the PFL light heavyweight title against DaVladzhan Yag Shimurdov. He should win that one and I, big shouts to Corey. He's a good dude who's waited his turn for some. What room was he
Starting point is 01:56:01 the beast in? It was a beast in 25-7. No, wait, no, 25-8. 25-8. I'm sorry. What am I saying? What college was that at it? I don't know. Whatever college, they don't do math. I don't know. Oh, you're going to be 24-7? I'm going to be 24-7. I'm going to beast 24-7. Wow, there you go. Get that through your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. Thank you for watching today. I hope that you'll watch us again this Friday, 11 a.m. Eastern time for a remote episode as we set the stage for UFC. Where's that card specifically this weekend? Shanghai. Shanghai. I like the Co-Main more than the main.
Starting point is 01:56:36 I'm here for Brian Ortega versus Elgin. Yeah, the main event I don't really give a shit about. Johnny Walker against, what's that guy's? Mingyang, what is he? The snow tiger, the snow leopard? What is it? Yeah, one of those. Mountain tigers.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Mountain tigers, something like that. You can follow our social handles there. Please like and subscribe this video. If you are a supporter of what we do, it does help us make advances. Please, we like to make advances on people. That's about all I can produce for today, Luke. I'm a little bit scarred by that last segment. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:57:05 I mean, the art on this show is meant to move you, but it is never a guarantee that it will move you in the direction you think coming in. Yeah. I hope you recover. Yeah. That was more violent than some of the pornography that you watch. So what was the point of no return? The soccer kick in the crowd or Pam Oliver?
Starting point is 01:57:23 I think the guy just turning around after the punch machine and being like, I'm just going to assault this random woman. That seems to be a skit. A skit, yes. I don't think that could a happen. Well, it could happen. I don't think it's getting out there. there as like soccer kick at the angels game was was not great i give that an a minus i mean
Starting point is 01:57:44 cake lady coming out this week with the toes was something i'm going to fly to wherever she's from and have a have a word with her i do you think she would accept an offer to be on the show as a guess or would that you would probably i've called her bad names yeah i don't know all right hey that's all we got for you today for long island luke and l t i'm the bc how many dildos are in that bag. Thank you for playing. I will now return home finally after this. I got to jump on to train Osborne style. We out. Yeah. This is an IHeart podcast.

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