MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Conor McGregor + BKFC, Crawford vs Madrimov, Canelo vs Mungia, UFC 301 | Full Ep | Morning Kombat

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

New era of MK continues on as Luke and BC are back in studio to discuss the biggest news in the combat sports world. First, Conor McGergor became part owner of BKFC. What would he get out of an arrangement like that? Terence Crawford has his next fight against Israil Madrimov, but it's the bigger fight card that's turning heads. How deep is this card all-time and is it safe to say the Saudi sportswashing effort is working? Plus, they preview Canelo vs. Mungia and recap an underwhelming UFC Fight Night Card.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is our life. This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. Hey, probably not showered and certainly underslept. Morning Combat is back in your life. It's LT, Luke Thomas, BC, Brian Campbell. Hey, thanks for joining us. What a show we have for you today, BC, right? First of all, Patchy Mix will be here in about an hour, but we've got so much to get to. Conor McGregor, part owner of BKFC, UFC 301 is this weekend. Canelo is back.

Oh, by the way, we have a little bit of, I think, a mini MK announcement of what's going to happen on Friday. It's a lot going on. Hi, everyone. Welcome on in. I'm excited. I'm both blessed and highly favored, right? Shoes Dior, suits tailored, right?

I got to tell you, I'm looking at you. You don't look like the highly favored type to me. No, but this Ryan Garcia victory lap has been interesting. More to come on Have You Seen This Shit? But yeah, we have a fantastic show today, man. We are going to set the stage for 301 Canelo versus Munguia. Talk about Mike Perry's, once again, his breakthrough combat sports pay-per-view star victory at the old BKFC. I'm fired up.

I'm ready. I got pit stains to show you the passion I'm bringing to this operation. Luke, also, they have a rule in that really nice bathroom next to our studio. It's a no pooping rule. You have violated that rule before. Did you violate that rule today? I did not violate the rule today, but I have definitely violated that rule before. You always wonder, like, what had to happen for a rule like that to be created. I mean, I just got to tell you, if you tell me there's a no pooping bathroom, it's going to require my utmost restraint to not defecate in the sink.

Okay. All right. That's shop style almost right yeah just pissing where i mean how long is the show two minutes two minutes and we're doing skits and bits yeah there it is there it is but hey shout out to metal lark studios how about our guy ken on audio and the behind the glass yeah that's what i'm talking about long island luke is here jake von amsterdam is here jake von amsterdam is, BC, but if you could tell me what he's doing because I, for the life of me, can't figure it out.

You know what he's not doing? Being helpful. He's just making art. Collecting unemployment is what he's doing. Did you want to talk about this this week? Because we'll be on the road. So let's talk about this. We're here today. We're going to get to the whole show here in just a minute. By the way, if you're watching on YouTube, thank you so much everywhere you're watching this from. Thumbs up

and hit subscribe. But yes, I mentioned we have a mini MK announcement. Everyone's asking, hey, when are you guys going to be doing Friday shows again, Friday shows again? Well, on a permanent basis, I don't quite know the answer to that. But on a this week basis, the answer is of course, this week. We are going to be going to

Las Vegas on Wednesday for Canelo versus Munguia. We're not going to Brazil for 301. Don't kill us. Although big Steve Erseg fan over here. Huge. I actually like the main event for 301. I'm not one of these haters, but okay.

So we're going to have obviously some Radio Row coverage. Thursday, we're going to be doing a live show on the MK YouTube channel from Radio Row. Big time guests coming your way. And talk about Friday, man. Friday, we'll be in the Blue wire studios down there in vegas as well we're doing a friday mk edition with a very special guest getting getting set up very i'm not saying that the guest won't be there but it's big enough where like i'll promote it when when this guest walks in the room you know what i'm saying okay big guest friday in our live show yeah we're gonna have two we're gonna have basically three shows

this week uh we used to have three shows well is it three or is it four because there's some original 1.0 rsd magic being talked about there is also some of that as well brought to you by med men whether they sponsor us or not right they close at 7 p.m who the fuck does that wait we saw bob arum there at like 1 a.m that time no no no it must have been well that or they've changed their hours because we walked there and they were closed. And I was like, well, I guess I have to go to the sketchy Arby's next door and get a beef and cheddar and then get stabbed.

What's 24-7? Okay, when I want your opinion, I will solicit it. Yes, thank you. Long Island Luke, by the way, hosts a UFC betting show on YouTube. Never told us. Never told us. 100% he owes money to a bookie. And if he ever comes in here with crutches or some kind of neck brace it's because he's got sideways what's it called again

main card minute you can find that on YouTube with Long Island Luke his father by the way from Australia not sure if I've ever mentioned that time or two oh by the way we like responsible gambling all that fun stuff having good time with it doing it the right way also reminder DraftKings, we're going to be on at 5 p.m., 5 p.m. in the east. So for all the folks who catch us on DraftKings Network, thank you. BC, very quickly, did you have a good weekend? You know, I did. I had a great weekend. My wife made me dig about nine holes in the ground to put some plants in.

So it was a nice spring cleaning weekend. Went to the kids' track meet. Yeah, life is good, you know? Okay. It was Tookie's birthday this past weekend. What's the age? She's five. life is good, you know? Okay. It was Tukey's birthday this past weekend. What's the age now? She's five. Can you believe it?

She is five. What a gift from above. It is a gift. It is a gift. What did you guys do? Did you do? So she went on vacation recently with her mom. They went to Columbia to go see all their family.

It's also your wife, just for legal purposes. Fair enough. But what I meant to say was her family, unbeknownst to me, threw her a gigantic party in Columbia with a unicorn cake. I mean, the whole bit. A mini quinceanera? You mean quinceanera? Or chichanita either. Or chichanita, yes.

No, but it was still a fun kids party. There was a whole thing, tons of gifts. It was great. So I was like, we're not going to do two of these. I'm not going to do another one. You get one so we took her to six flags we took her to six all right i thought you were saying chucky cheese we took her to chucky cheese then we just left her we just lost her in the balls no we took her to we took her to six flags and we went on a day where it was a little bit chilly there was no lines first of all she she loved it oh my god she

had the time of her life i sent you the picture yeah she was yeah mouth mouth breathing like a thomas so we had it was a great time all right quickly as well your merch options if you want to wear that beautiful bomber jacket morning combat dot store the one i've got on here we've got a lot more coming live 10 you get 10 off i don't even know if that works anymore i don't even know if rj dunkel gangbanger is employed but we talked to him and there's some designs on the way. I think he's employed on RedTube. That's where I think he's employed. You know what I'm saying. Okay.

With that in mind, by the way, we are going to talk about this weekend's UFC fights that happened that were fine. Unless we run out of time. I'm hoping for the latter. They were fine. They were nothing great. They were nothing terrible. They were just there. They weren't as good as the BKFC card or the Golden Boy card, to be honest with you. To be honest with you.

That is actually true. That is actually true. All right. With that in mind, BC, let's get going with what I am very surprised to say is the biggest news of the weekend, or certainly the one, if it's not the biggest, it is the most interesting to me. Let's start with Conor McGregor and BKFC. It turns out now that Conor McGregor is a part owner of the Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship. That's a real thing. I've got a question for you, but first things first, we've got a video with the promoter of BKFC, Dave Feldman,

announcing or at a bare minimum talking more about this. Let's see it. We've got the biggest announcement in the BKFC history we're about to make, so let's make that announcement what's up nookamania the notorious Conor McGregor here ladies and gentlemen the huge announcement that I have for you today Conor McGregor myself and McGregor sports and entertainment is now an owner of bare knuckle fighting championship welcome to the big leagues David Feldman baby we did it.

David, what does this mean, man? Cyrus warned us about dropping some news. Didn't see that one coming. What does this mean for BKFC? I mean, look, you got the biggest guy in all of combat sports right now as a part owner of our company. I think it's just going to move the needle tremendously. We're going to do a lot of big things. We're going to open up a lot of new markets. Okay, we can stop it there. You get the idea. BC, very basic question. What does Conor McGregor and BKFC get out of this?

I think they both actually get a lot. Now, it's surprising, right? On its surface, Conor's still an active UFC activist, but he'll be back, right? International Fight Week, June 29th. The long-awaited return. But we did see him in person at but he'll be back, right? International Fight Week, June 29th. The long awaited return. But we did see him in person at their previous Biggest

Card Ever, which also had Mike Perry in the main event. And they even got it to the level, as we talked about, of getting Conor in the circle against Mike Perry and facing off. Obviously a dream matchup that's not going to happen anytime soon. But for Conor, look, this is a nice leverage play, is it not? Right? He's getting toward the end of his career.

We don't know his true contract status here. We know he's got at least a few more UFC ones left in him, but we know he wants leverage, as always, as a smart businessman. I wonder if this is the beginning of that, a nice opportunity for him to take his brand, which has been doing well from the standpoint of whiskey and beer and salt. No, and some of the other things that he's really into. Court cases.

Yeah, in that regard. But look, when we talk about the ideas and we will talk about it of like what is the biggest opponents that BKFC could put in there against Perry or who are the biggest signings

they could do, I wonder if this is the beginning of bridging that gap. We did see David Feldman in a meeting with Dana White recently and you hear the talk afterwards and nothing according to Feldman was, was signed or anything, but it was just a,

you know, we're starting to get to this level. Let's meet. He did talk about the idea of wanting to be on UFC fight pass. Potentially one day we were, there were rumors of what UFC ever purchase it. I'm not saying it's going in that direction, but I wonder if this starts that road to the idea of not just Connor,

but the future of UFC saying, we know when our fighters still have brand value, but they're aging, they want to go somewhere else. They want to make a lot of money. That's why we always said instead of power slap, Dana, how about you put Zufa boxing back together and actually give your fighters a

chance to go somewhere and make money. I wonder if this is sort of a long play beginning on that, but short-term, obviously Connor's brand, his mouthpiece ability showing up at events is going to be a big thing for BKFC. And on the flip side, I wonder if it continues to give Conor an opportunity to flex a little bit

back at the UFC when it comes to negotiations. and when it comes to the idea of he hasn't hidden, he loves the bare knuckle game. He wants to compete in it. It's rare to see a fighter in their prime sort of do something this big in this crossover level, but I am interested to see where it goes. The only thing I want to bring up is Feldman said after the event that he used to say to his wife that he dreamed of getting a phone call from Conor McGregor one day.

Now he can't get Conor to stop calling him. So it's going to be interesting if Conor is going to be able to put his stamp anywhere on this brand and whether you like it or not, they are going up. They are going up at the moment. They are building towards something. They have a unique product relative to other competitors or other promotions in the space. We're asking like,

what do they get out of it? I'll never forget. It was here in New York city, UFC two Oh five. When Conor McGregor laid waste to Eddie Alvarez, and he had both belts, and he did a scrum backstage with the media. I was there in the hallway. Right.

And he made it very explicit. He now, at that time, what he said he wanted was shares of the company. He wanted to become a part owner. That was what he wanted. And the UFC never, ever, I don't think, got close to being in a position to give him some. But owning part of the combat sports space, not just his own career, but some of the infrastructure, some of the other places out there, getting an ownership stake in that has clearly been on his mind for some time.

The interesting part for me about this one is you look at that, you've got Conor McGregor and BKFC, don't forget it's a much smaller deal, but you've actually got Francis Ngannou and PFL Middle East, North Africa, PFL MENA, Central PFL Africa, whatever. No, he would be Africa because the MENA is a separate one. So he would have part of that one as well. And so you see these very, very elite fighters who have been able to change the system a little bit for their own benefit or take advantage of certain opportunities, get this ownership stake kind of thing going forward. I don't know how much that will be repeated over time because it does feel like a very case-by-case basis.

It's interesting that neither of those guys changed the way that fighters got paid. They just changed the way they got paid rather than making a big dent in the industry at large. Well, Francis has hopes of doing that. They changed it for themselves, which is not nothing. I mean, that's a big thing, but they didn't go to Capitol Hill and lobby for the Ali Act. They didn't go and really help out with the antitrust trial.

They said, I'm going to get mine in a different way. Okay, but let's put some respect on Francis. I don't know if the PFL thing is going to work out, but he's now giving fighters a seat at the table in a sense. So it's a little more than what you said. I don't know how much of that is symbolic. I mean, we're saying it means a lot.

We don't really know. I mean, he's never fought for them yet. So, so what does it really mean? But the thing I wanted to say was BKFC. BKFC is still trying to figure out what it wants because they did a show not too long ago.

There was a story in front office sports about this, but they had like an avowed white supremacist competing on their card who was, you know, dapping up the Aryan brotherhood. It's like, guys, if you want to be mainstream, this is absolutely not how to do it. However, however, getting into business with Conor McGregor, I'm not saying he doesn't have a bit of a bad boy image in certain parts of the sporting community, but inside the combat sports space, he's one of the biggest names you could possibly have. And so inside the combat sports space, it's somewhat mainstream eyes is such as a,

it's a word that particular brand. A hundred percent. It does. So I wanted to ask you specifically about that point. Like you get Conor McGregor involved as part owner. People suddenly think, Oh, UFC is involved.

Are we getting closer to the idea of what I tease off the top that ufc one day could get involved i mean look they got big powerslap plans and we clown or whatever at times but they seem to have a goal that they're going after but the majority of ex-ufc fighters thankfully are not going to powerslap at least not yet but i would say you know with they're going to crossover boxing or they're going to BKFC. So do you think this gets them closer? If you're BKFC to the idea of maybe partnering on a full-time basis or even on, okay, you have guys under contract. Think Jorge Masvidal who UFC just allowed to, to get three boxing fights under his belt. He's going to do Nate Diaz one.

He's got other plans after that. What if you said instead come to BKFC where we as UFC are part owners or what have you. It could give Conor extended life when his MMA value is over. It could give a lot of these guys extended life. What value does the UFC get out of partnering with BKFC? I'm not challenging you. I'm actually just wondering. I would only say it would avoid, in theory, in some ways, the fact that fighters tried to do what, what Nate Diaz did, which is really hard to,

to legitimately fight out your contract to become a free agent, where you still have a certain amount of value that you can go elsewhere and bring pay-per-views that people need to see. Not saying this Masvidal one is going to blow up, but like the Jake Paul fight was a big fight, right? It was a big event. It kind of,

it mattered. It was a rival to the UFC. In some ways they could close down on that, especially if they wanted to bring it into UFC fight pass especially if they wanted to do that I'm just asking you if you think that this is the beginning of that and if you think that that the UFC would have any interest in that from the standpoint of if we're going to lose our fighters anyway when they still have name value maybe they're no longer fit to compete for UFC titles or even really still be in MMA which is very it's a grinding it's a a very hard thing to keep the training up.

We always hear fighters talk about that, but there is new life in, in bare knuckle fighting in your later years, you can extend your brand power. What I would say on this is there, we have seen a picture that Dave Feldman posted on social media where he was meeting with Dana white. And so there is certainly a possible,

I mean, I've lived through the, the dude, I lived through the UFC acquiring WEC, WEF. I lived through them acquiring Strikeforce. I lived through them acquiring all the contracts essentially from Pride. I lived through them making these big acquisitions. There is certainly a potential if, remember like BKFC is, it's getting a lot of some boxers, but it's getting mostly MMA fighters or a lot of former MMA fighters. So it still seems more MMA adjacent.

And so if you group it in that, it's very different from one. It's very different than BFL. It's a true and genuine alternative in that way. And we know, obviously, Jorge Masvidal has his own brand, but that still doesn't seem as far along as BKFC is, certainly for better or for worse. And so for those reasons, I think that there might be a case for them to want to acquire them if they want to get into that business. But like, here's the thing. I'm happy to not really bring up fighter pay anymore to the extent it's not really relevant day-to-day, week-to-week. Is that because fighters don't care about it? They don't. And only us media do, apparently. They absolutely, they do not care about being paid what they get paid. However,

what I will not tolerate is the idea that there is no downside to monopoly. This idea you're talking about, like, oh, here's why they might want to align with BKFC. They don't need them for that at all. With the tolling provisions that they've added, with the ability to not join a class action lawsuit, with how long it takes to get out of a contract if they want to keep you in with any number of different things, we'll see what this non-compete ban by the FTC does. Probably nothing, but I guess we'll have to see. But for the time being, they don't need BKFC for that.

They've got the whole thing controlled. And so I'm happy to figure out what the real course of action is, potentially for BKFC long-term, and it could include the UFC, but it's not going to include the UFC because they need them as a backstop for aging fighters. That's fair. 100% they don't need them. Obviously, the biggest winner seems to be David Feldman and the BKFC brand,

which still has certain connotations surrounding him. They got guys named Bobo O'Bannon fighting. It certainly still has this Wyoming backyard farm kind of feel or Florida swamp feel to it in a lot of ways. So this gives them credibility of McGregor. What do you think it does for mcgregor though okay so again he definitely wanted a piece of something why he wanted this one more than the other one i think he feels like it's the most genuine alternative like for example if you're mcgregor getting into the boxing space it's going to be

tough especially now with the saudis doing everything they're doing. So who are you going to partner with there? And who's going to sell you a stake anyway, right? So, I mean, he's, MMA fans don't want to hear this, but Conor McGregor is not held in high esteem in boxing circles from what I can tell. Fair or unfair? Fair. Yeah, okay. So that avenue is closed. And if you're Connor, do you really want to put in a bunch of money into

one championship or PFL, which by the way is technically kind of a competitor sort of to the UFC? It seems like you don't want to do that, but here you've got something that is kind of UFC approved. That is not really in the MMA lane. We know it's MMA adjacent, but it's not the MMA lane. It is a genuine alternative in the marketplace, whether you like that alternative or not. I sort of see what he's kind of eyeing there. It's what's a safe place for me to invest that won't cause ire in other places that also has a chance at being a real potential product long-term. It sounds weird to say, oh, BKFC is the best choice. But when you look around a little bit, it does make some sense as an acquisition. If you really believe this alternative,

that's a safe investment has a promising future. I don't know. What do we guess is Connor's actual involvement here? Will he become, think of the role Oscar de la Hoya plays with golden boy and in the boxing promoting space, he's a fast talking, gets your attention.

Former fighter can sell fights, certainly love him or hate him, and same thing about Conor in that regard. Do you think Conor wants that role? Do you think there's room for him in that role? I think it's largely ceremonial. I'm going to guess this deal would probably be close to be $10 million or so, give or take, maybe as high as $20, I doubt it, probably closer

to $10 or so. And so he does have some kind of ownership stake, and they will use him in some kind of way to promote the brand, but I don't know if it's like, there's anything even approximating executive control. It seems to me somewhat, listen to the words I'm saying somewhat symbolic. Okay. And then I guess the final question on this is, will he take a BKFC fight in the next five years? Where do you think his contract is at? So in the next five years, he'll be 40. Sure. But I don't think that there's's necessarily an age limit on BKFC.

I don't. I'm going to say no. I don't think so. I'm going to say no. I don't think he does. I don't think he does. I just think, dude, they're so fucking brutal. I just don't.

You think he does? I feel like he wants that. He's not going to get kicked in the legs. He's not going to get taken down. He's not going to be out slicked per se by a, if he went to pro boxing again and did another type of crossover fight. He's not going to be out slicked per se by a, if he went to pro boxing again and did another type of crossover fight. He's generally had a decent chin. He is a guy who came up in

the streets of Crumlin and has fast hands and knows how to get off bare knuckle shots. He's had bare knuckle fights in real life. Luke, we've seen it, right? And you know what? I didn't mention this, but we should mention this as well. He has kind of thrown his name in the hat a little bit, a little bit, for some of these Jake Paul fights and some of these kind of

crossover fights. So this we're talking about areas of exploration for him. It's a possibility. It's certainly a possibility. I'm just saying he's such a moneymaker, obviously, and will be until he loses eight fights in a row, right?

Like it will be, he's always going to be a moneymaker. So maybe, maybe, maybe it helps the idea rather than have him at the end of his ufc run when he does get out of his contract if that's going to happen he says he's ufc for life he always says that right and i believe him on that regard but maybe this allows ufc to come in and partner with down the line right if he's still under contract but there is let's say it's mike perry versus conor mcgregor

in two years is like the biggest or bare knuckle fight you could ever make, right? Maybe that, that allows UFC to get in. Maybe they don't want that. I don't know, but it's interesting. So we'll have to see how it rolls off. Quickly here, BC. I don't want to forget about this. Mike Perry wins first round TKO, Tiago Alves, a decorated combat athlete. He fought a UFC 100. He gave George St. Pierre a very tough fight. If you've never seen his fight against Carlos Condit, which I believe was in Brazil, it's fucking fantastic. Go take a look at it. The point I did want to make was they can't find anyone

who can stand with this guy. And they're finding good fighters. Yes, Tiago Alves was 40, a little bit older, but Eddie Alvarez, also a little bit older, but was still a dog in that fight. But they just cannot stand up to his firepower, to his durability, to his mental makeup. We talked to him last Monday. BC, are they going to be able to find anybody?

But remember, this fight was at 185. Yeah, yeah. To stand with him. Well, they've got some work to do. So Mike now, since leaving the UFC, is 5-0. He won that boxing match against Michael Seals with the Triller triangle ring, and he's won four. Wait, wait.

One more time, say that again. We've got breaking news here. Okay, so we'll come back to this news. We're just finding out Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson is an officially sanctioned professional contest. It will not be an exhibition. We'll react to that in just a minute. Finish your point. What were we talking about again?

The KFC. No, Mike Perry. Look, Mike Perry's 4-0 in bare knuckle. Three straight knockouts. I don't lie when I say he's a pay-per-view star. He's on the rise. We had this debate when I was on the Jed Meshew-Mike Heck MMA fighting below

the belt, below the lines, beneath the lines, between the lines. Believe these loins. Believe these loins. Between the links, thank you. And what Jed ultimately said, and he was right, and it's what Mike brought up afterwards, I think there are two fights that KFC potentially could make in the near future that would make a lot of sense.

One is Darren Till, and Mike Perry is now sharing on social media the voice message DMs he got from Darren Till talking about his family, talking crazy stuff. That's a viable fight. There's a grudge there, UFC history, all that. And then he called out the winner of Nate Diaz versus Jorge Masvidal. And if you want to do a pay-per-view that people have to see,

I'm going to ask you true or false. Is Mike Perry versus the winner or loser of a Diaz-Masvidal boxing match potentially the biggest fight card in BKFC history? Because this was Knucklemania 4. This was a big tentpole one. Once again, Feldman said this is the biggest night in BKFC history.

They say that every time Mike fights. That might be the biggest night in BKFC history if Mike fights either Jorge or Nate. Do you think either guy would accept the money to do that? Jorge, yes. I don't know about Nate. I don't know about Nate. Nate was there on Saturday. They interviewed him ringside.

He didn't commit to wanting to fight. He's like, I don't know if I ever want to do this. I think honestly he would go to, I'm not necessarily saying explicitly the highest bidder, but if they were, let's say the highest bidder, it's possible. I just don't think it's the likeliest scenario with Nate because he does cut easy and that's a big problem. Jorge, I think would be all about it. By the way, I was trying to think about this.

Wouldn't that be big though? Jorge versus Mike, those two personalities? It could be big. And also if you think about why why mma fans like it i'm not saying mma fans don't like boxing although many of them just don't like boxing a lot of our fans though uh that's true but the reality is if you look at it you know that we had uh we had max and gaethje slugging it out the last 10 seconds even on this card we had pierce and onama slugging it out i'm not sure if you saw that and by the way none of them got a bonus for it so like

you know this idea that like bonuses compel you to do it is total nonsense. But the point I'm trying to make is they were slugging it out. And it's like, BKFC is a lot closer to that than boxing is this kind of wild exchange, you know, just biting down and throwing. It still has a UFC one raw field. It does.

That's exactly right. And it's not just raw in the violent side or the unpredictability side. It's raw in the unpredictability of who's going to win. We still don't really know. We're seeing some boxers have success. Austin Trout, who's boxing from distance now for BKFC, the former champion. But look, we still haven't... There's no real formula

yet on how you cross over from either boxing or MMA to be great at this, except for what Mike Perry's doing. And he's coming right at people, putting hands right in their face. And he's got a great chin, but it's interesting that Tiago Alves, who had been off for a couple of years and then announced his retirement again after this,

I mean, he succumbed quickly to Mike. So they are running out. But one thing I hope for David Feldman's sake and the, in his plans of making BKFC bigger is they need to make sure they're getting Mike better potential options in the BKFC circle than he could get either in crossover boxing. We know he's been wanting to fight the Paul brothers forever in traditional boxing. If that even comes his way or even Luke, do you ever see a scenario where he gets so big

again? If he, if he can escalate names, okay. MVP, Luke Rockhold, Eddie Alvarez, Tiago Alves, good name. What if it is Jorge Masvidal in the next fight or the fight after? Does he ever get to a point, Mike Perry, that the UFC comes calling again and says, you know what? Big KFC, you against, or not Big KFC, BMF, you against Gaethje, or whatever, would that ever happen?

I just hope for Feldman's sake and what he's building along with Mike that they can bring the opponents in so Mike doesn't have to look around and go elsewhere. Mike got 600K for that fight. That's awesome. Right. I'm happy for for him I'm proud of him right now he he has he every dollar of that he's earned I think if UFC would offer something similar he would take it but I don't know that they would at this point they don't need to they have all the leverage so I think he's going to go not again not necessarily with the highest bidder but if there's a big gap where hey to bkfc you're a 600k talent to mf2 ufc you're a 300k talent i don't know i don't know what he'll do with that i don't know how he would navigate that he's got time time is not he doesn't have

to run to make a decision but that's the way i would look at it why would you if you can make 2x for shorter fights where you have less training load and less injury load in training. Wouldn't you, and you, by the way, you're fucking awesome at one of these. Wouldn't you do that? I mean,

again, some of these glory questions come into play, which complicates it, but it's something to consider. One more thing to stick in your glory hole, Luke is, um, you know,

I felt weird delivering that. You're a weird, you're a weird fucking guy. Like timing wise, it was the right joke at the right time. It did feel weird though. Um, he's like,

speaking of banging you, uh, all right. The real right time. It did feel weird though. He's like, speaking of banging you. All right. The real theory of your question was in Mike with his rant afterwards. If you saw that in the ring afterwards is, can you find somebody that can fight with me? That can be my equal. Do they have to again go up? Does he have to again go up and wait?

Mike Perry in MMA fought what? Between 55 and 70 for most of his career? Mostly 70, but yes. Now he's fighting at 185. We saw him walk down and destroy Rockhold and make him essentially quit. Does Mike now have to continue to match upward in weight to even the gap in here? He might.

Lorenzo Hunt, by the way, lost. He did not become triple champ. Well, his elbow fell out. Did you see that? It was an injury, yes. But nevertheless, I think you're probably right. I think he probably does have to level up and just go to insane weight classes. So I'm like, do they have to bring in a name old boxer for him to fight? I'm not sure. Till would be the best one they could bring.

Yeah, because you want real heat. And Mike's willing to sell it. Did you see the trash talk he was doing? He's willing to sell it. He's ready to go. Alright, that's topic number one. That's BKFC in the weekend. I've got Todd Duffy news coming in BKFC so we can have that. I'm sorry, B-H-Y-S-T-S. B-C's Feces. B-C's Feces. I'm all over the place.

Topic number two, though, as we slide off of BKFC back into boxing quickly before we set the stage for what's coming this weekend. I don't know if you saw this in the past week, but pretty damn big news in boxing.

We're getting huge fights. A lot of it is Saudi Arabia infused, and that will only continue August 3rd, Los Angeles, outdoor football stadium. Or is it covered? I'm not really sure. The whole point is this Turkey.

Al-Shik is bringing Riyadh season from Saudi Arabia to the States in an absolutely loaded card. That brings the return of some, most people, a lot of people's pound for pound King, Terrence Crawford, his first appearance against since beating Errol Spence, he'll move up in weight,

take on Israel, Madhuri Dov, an absolute legitimate champion and opponent for a 154-pound title. But Luke, the news goes beyond Terrence Crawford. You're bringing together PBC, who we said, will they ever work with Saudi? You're bringing together Golden Boy.

Eddie Hearns appears to be the lead promoter with Matrim Sport. You've got Salida promotions. You've got Manny Pacquiao promotions with Sean Gibbons. Look at this card. Your co-feature is rising star Isak Cruz against El Rayo Jose Valenzuela, the PBC slugger who just...

Rayo. El Rayo, who knocked out Chris Colbert in consecutive fights. Brutally. The fight after that might be the best fight on the card. No, he got robbed in the first one. That's why they had the second one. Remember that? That's true.

He got robbed. He knocked down Colbert in that first one. This fight, though, might be the best fight in the card. Tim Zhu, fresh off that war with Sebastian Fundora, is going to fight unbeaten Virgil Ortiz. Who won in a round over the weekend. A round. We'll see the highlights on Have You Seen This Shit.

He's 21-0 with 20 KOs, and even though he's had the illness and injury of late and he's been out of the ring a lot, he's a stud. This is arguably a pay-per-view main event in the third fight from the top. I know you gotta ask a question, but just go down the list.

Jarrell Miller being back is interesting, because didn't he just hold up a car dealership? I don't know what happened with that. Either way, he's... He took all the drugs. Okay, but Andy Ruiz was holding out for a big payday. Looks like he played that one correctly, actually. You got David Murrell moving up to 175,

following David Benavidez up there. And Andy Cruz, what is he, a multiple-time Olympic gold medalist? Yes, from Cuba. Who is a fucking phenom. Dude, this card is dumb. So Luke, there's a lot of angles to go on here, but let's start right off the top. You've been around boxing a long time.

How freaking deep is this pay-per-view card, August 3rd? So I'm not a boxing historian by any stretch of the imagination, but I did try and look at it and say, hey, what are some of the deepest cards that have ever taken place in the United States? What do those look like? And the answer ends up being, you have to go back

to the somewhat in the 80s or in certain cases early 90s. Don King, right? Don King cards. Bernard Hopkins fighting on the same card as Roberto Duran. Or Chavez Sr. on the same card as... This is... Sorry, maybe it was... It might have actually been all three of them on one of those cards. Sometimes you would get Tyson or Chavez senior on the same card. This is maybe it was, it might actually been all three of them. Sometimes you would get Tyson Chavez senior.

You'd get a Christie Martin underneath. You know, that is what you have to go back to. I mean, folks ask what was the heyday of boxing? And most will say probably Ali's peak somewhere around the sixties or seventies, depending on how you want to look at that.

But a lot of people like us remember boxing in the eights mike tyson carrying that sugar ray leonard carrying that morvin hackler to an extent carrying that other figures as well and it was still extremely big at that time corrupt but still capable of producing a worldwide global superstar in the case of mike tyson and potentially some other ones as well this This is a throwback to that. It's not a throwback to the very, very, very, very top days of boxing, but to a very close approximation to the point I'm trying to make. BC, Ab, it's a dream. We'll talk about the sports washing angle in just a second. Sure.

But just in terms of what the involvement means, it is not in any way an exaggeration to say that the saudi investment through turkey al-ashik is transforming the sport of boxing i made a list here listen to this very quickly if i may day of reckoning that was uh one of the first cards that had and gano versus fury yes on that card no that was a different one it was a joshua Joshua and Wilder in separate fights. Yes, same cards. Fury and Ganu. That was another card. By the way, Jake Paul, Tommy Fury.

Folks, forget about that one. Still an influencer one, but big. Joshua Usyk, too, was in Saudi Arabia. Joshua and Ganu, Saudi Arabia. By the way, they got Joshua Reese for a $41 million site fee just to host. Just to host. Fury Usyk coming up here is going to be in Saudi Arabia. Better be Bivol coming up in Saudi Arabia is going to be big here.

And now Crawford Madrimov. And you look at those cards. Not all of them are equally stacked. In fact, some of them are not at all. But the point I'm trying to make is look at the effort they are putting in right away. Look at the angle. The first heavyweight boxing. Now they're transitioning to everything else and literally putting on cards that fucking remind us of the 1980s.

No other promoter has even come close to doing something like this. Off with their heads is a thing. Journalists got beheaded in that country. Tukey loves Alice in Wonderland. Yeah, I'm sure she does. So does Turkey Al-Ashiq. But here's the deal. Turkey Al-Ashiq is boxing's new Santa Claus.

It is what it is. I know that there's elements that people think it might be short-lived with him spending all this money. Unfortunately, there's some rumors, or not rumors, he said it himself, that he might not have long due to an illness he's battling, and he's putting off some of the treatment to make these dream fights for boxing fans. For as long as this lasts, yes, there's other issues, sports washing, other

things to deal with, but as just a pure boxing fan, the value you're getting, the fact that, like, the MMA equivalent of this would be to get Dana White, Scott Coker when he was running Bellator. No, no, no. Scott Coker when he was running Strikeforce.

Yes. Or, you know, Don Davis of the PFL. And Sakaki Bara at Pride. That's what this is. And you sat them all down right now of who are the promoters now. And you basically said,

let's get a fighter from you, fighter from you, fighter from you, fighter from you. We basically said, this Saudi thing is interesting. and we're getting a lot of our dream fights happening now. Like Fury versus Usyk could be the only fight that happens this year and I'd be fired up. B-Ball versus Better V could be the only fight that happens this year and I'd be fired up.

But now we're getting them all month to month. And Turkey Al-Ashiq is like, I want to go into the lower weight classes now and I want to come to America and bring Oscar, Eddie, Al Heyman, and everybody together. Guys. Was this more than what you anticipated when they first started getting involved? Because remember, they did Ruiz-Joshua 2, right? Ruiz won in New York in that major upset. They do the rematch in Saudi Arabia.

Stupidest name ever. Clash of the Dunes. Worst title ever. But when they started getting involved there, did you think it would end up here? No. One thing we had said consistently, and it's true,

it's great what they're doing over there, but Al Heyman and PBC, in theory, has half of the fighters that matter in the globe or used to or whatever. We'd have to see. There's some fighters that have jumped recently. Maybe this is only happening because PBC has the smaller deal with Amazon Prime, a video, and doesn't have the second series that we thought they would need with the amount of fighters they have.

Maybe that's why their pay-per-views have been a little bit more loaded lately. Either way, now that Al Heyman is on board and we saw Luis Tequibas Jr. meeting with Turkey Al-Ashiq and was able to get El-Reo on the card, able to get Pitbull Cruz, which is no small thing to get Pitbull Cruz on after knocking out Roley Mero on this current star rise. He's on good timing. Even if you know nothing about Israel, Madredov and not a lot of us even do Madramov. Apparently I don't know anything about him.

This is a great fight because the, you know, arguably the best fire in the world, Crawford finally coming back, moving up in weight. And maybe, maybe the setup here is that Crawford fights the winner of Zoo versus Virgil Ortiz, which would be mind-blowing.

I've heard Turkey say in the media he still has two goals for the end of this year. He still wants Crawford against Canelo. And I forgot what the other big one he wanted. The whole point here is that I guess once in a while in boxing, we can have our cake and eat it too. Somebody may lose their neck for this, Luke. I don't know. Bonesaw style. I'm being a little crazy there, but is this enough?

Because where we were November, December, as these fights were starting to pop up and the whispers of more coming around the calendar of 2024 were there, we still had our foot in the puddle of sports washing. We still had our foot in the puddle, rightfully so, of Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist from Washington Post.

Are we past that now? Should we be past that now? Because, Luke, we're getting everything we want. This card rules! I don't think you should ever be past a journalist being bone-sawed to death. But now we don't have to go to Saudi. They're coming to us. That's right. There is that. But what I would say is, when you think about this,

it's not just that they're putting on big names. Are there big names on all these cards? Yes. And is Jake Paul versus Tommy Fury any kind of fight of consequence? No, i mean it's not just that they're putting on big names are the other big names on all these cards yes and is jake paul versus tommy fury any kind of fight of consequence no of course it is not but bc fury versus zeusic is for the heavyweight unification first time in the four belt era uh obviously crawford versus madrimov doesn't get us anywhere close to that sure but they're trying to do fights of consequence when they can and every seemingly noteworthy obstacle they're're in different networks, they're far apart on demands. This guy comes in and waves the magic wand of, okay, what is your price to fix this? And then just fixes it.

Boxing fans, from what I can tell, are over the moon about Saudi investment. As they should. So it gets back to the question about sports washing. And we've been through this one a number of times, but I do think it is worth asking is it working? In other words, is this kind of effort, boxing fans are mostly

just focused on what are you giving me as a boxing fan? No doubt about it. But is this wider conversation of are people's attitudes softening towards Saudi Arabia? Again, maybe they should, because there's a whole conversation about what the U.S. has done and other Western powers.

I don't want to get too far off the conversation in a different direction. But what I will say is, from the best of my approximation, whether you think this is shameful or inevitable, or maybe you think it is good, are people's attitudes softening towards the kingdom of Saudi Arabia? I don't think there can be any doubt. There's no doubt. I don't think there can be any doubt at all at this point.

So does sports washing work? Matter of fact, it works. Right, and I mean, to some degree, Saudi Arabia is also doing it with good intentions as well, right? Like they're trying to make it a vacation destination. They're trying to give, taking from Kareem Zidane, who you interviewed on Morning Combat late last year, they're trying to give the youth more options of the entertainment things they always wanted. It's not just two sports. Right, and I'm not saying it doesn't mean it covers up all of those sins,

but boxing has always had their hand in things that are a little sketchy. Do you remember when the mafia ran the sport when our grandparents were young? I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's always sort of been like that. It doesn't justify it, but if this is what we're getting, and here's the, if you ask yourself, okay, how could it escalate? How can we get even more? Luke, I tell you this.

We all know the hottest division in this sport is 140 pounds in the fighters that are in and around it. And whether you call them the Four Princes as Karen Mulvaney called it, or the Chris Algieri has another name for them, the Four Horsemen, Luke. And really, it's five, in my opinion. It always has been. It's Teofimo, Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney,

Tank Davis, and Shakur Stevenson, who's coming up in weight behind them. If they start getting into that business, if Turkey Al-Ashiq starts saying, we not only don't need to go to Saudi for these big events, but I'm going to find a way to get Haney, Tank, Ryan, Teofimo, and Shakur to all fight each other so that we actually could have our own version in this era of the four kings where Leonardonard hearns duran and and uh haggler fought each other nine times those four gentlemen fought each other nine times in 10 years and it bridged the gap of muhammad ali's retirement it took boxing to another level if somehow turkey al-ashq can get these great stars to continue this round robin that Ryan Garcia, gotta give him credit, started by forcing his way into the tank fight, by taking the Haney fight when people said he shouldn't.

Is this our future? Because if our future is Haney versus tank and Shakur getting involved, dude, I'm not going to wear, I'm not going to deface the American flag and wear my NWO wrestling shirt, but I might put on a Saudi flag after this. Okay, that's a little much. Okay, that was a little much. But you know, the boxing fan in me has, in any of us, the boxing fan has been waiting for something like this forever. That's the part. Like, the boxing fan today feels like somebody who's been trapped in the desert. Yes.

And here comes somebody with a jug full of water and is quenching your thirst in all of the most important kind of ways. That is a real thing. We want to see the fight. We want to see the best fight the best. We thought it might be Dana White who would come in and save us by spending a lot of money. We thought it was Al Heyman

when they launched the PBC back in 2015 on every network. It never quite happened. Is Turkey that glue? Is it long-term? I don't know. We still don't know. That's another part, too.

It's like there have been whispers about Saudi Arabia kind of dialing back some of these international reach efforts, not because they haven't worked, but because there might be better ways to. People think that their money is infinite, and it is about as close to infinite as it gets. But there are limits to what they want to spend. When they are going to get world events like the World Cup and Formula One, boxing currently is doing a great deal of work in rehabilitating their image. I do think at some point that will stop or at a bare minimum, just not really keep going up in

the way that it has. And so if you get to that point, I don't know if continued investment really matters, or I should say, I don't know if continued investment really continues. If they're like, well, we've done every, boxing was useful. It is no longer useful in maintaining international image or whatever they're using it for. They might walk away at that point. So everyone being like, Oh, this is the future.

I would argue this is the now. And if you want some of that Saudi money, and again, there's a whole complicated debate about that, but if you want it, this is the time to get it. I don't know how much longer it's going to be around. One thing I want to point out too,

is PBC has this card coming up in June with the've got Tank and they've got David Benavidez. It's not a doubleheader, but they're kind of both being featured as headliner and then big co-main event. I don't think they double up Tank unless they were trying to not compete so much with the Saudis, but compete for the dollar, given what the Saudis are doing, making much bigger calculations about, hey, how am I going to spend my money here if I have to pay for this?

And then now you're just giving me Tank. Tank is great. Oh, but you're going to give me Tank and David Benavidez. Okay, that's a much better value proposition for the consumer. So it's kind of raising the bar seemingly in a lot of different directions. What I have ever thought in my combat sports journalism and fan years that a fight like a can't miss stadium fight,

like John Jones versus Francis and gone, who could not be made, but yet all my boxing dreams are one coming true. I mean, imagine if we now have Crawford Spence zoo, Fundora and Jermell Charlo operating in the 54 title window, like boxing is happening. It's coming together.

Beavol versus better beef. Frank Warren versus Eddie Hearn are going to do a five and five that day. There's talk about Oscar wanting to go head to head withhead with Top Rank in a five-on-five. And Big Bang Jang said, we're going to bang each other. Man, I need a boxing cigarette, Luke. All right, we do have MMA to get to. So for MMA fans who are like, what the fuck? Just wait a bit.

This is not a big, strong weekend for MMA, by the way. It's a fine weekend for MMA, but it's not a big, strong one. It's a pretty decent one for boxing. So BC, question number three three i pose to you it is now the return of cinnamon aka canelo alvarez saul alvarez is back and he's taking on jaime munguia this will be in las vegas again as we mentioned we'll be there for thursday show friday show the whole nine yards bc i don't want to just look at something and be like oh that happened so this will happen but we both had to eat a lot of crow yes about ryan garcia don't want to make that

mistake again if i don't have to should we be let me ask this way should we expect munguia to have more of a chance than the current betting odds might indicate in part because Munguia had a decent show against Dervianchenko and some other ones are John Ryder. Yes. And then Canelo had a good showing against Charlo, but he didn't really show up himself. It was kind of just one way traffic because one guy didn't really do a whole lot. And when there's been questions about him, Ryder went the distance, for example, with Canelo.

Are we, are we all doing the same Garcia madness again? Not because he's a crazy person, but we're just underestimating Jaime Munguia. Yeah. for example, with Canelo. Are we all doing the same Garcia madness again? Not because he's a crazy person, but we're just underestimating Jaime Munguia. Yeah, I think we have to stop and make sure we don't do it right now. We do have to look at all the facts in ways that we necessarily didn't ahead of Garcia Haney, but a lot of that was the distraction purposefully

of what Ryan was trying to do. And then the other half of it was, we weren't sure Ryan was ever going to put it together on the level that he did against Haney. And there was the weight miss. There were a lot of things that made that a perfect storm. Could this be a perfect storm in the same regard for Jaime Munguia? I think there's some things to think about.

The Jaime Munguia of the opinion that we had has changed over the years. He was this huge 54-pound, 154-pound champion who was like, oh, my God, down the road, he could fight Canelo. This would be great. But when he went to middleweight and his beginning run at 68, we've talked about it on the show for the last two years, ad nauseum. It's like, who is he fighting?

Nobody of consequence. And it's not that, you know, it's exciting, but who cares? He has come alive of late to, to his, to his credit.

He is in his absolute mental and physical prime in this all Mexico showdown, which really raises the emotional stakes as it always does. But Luke, he's a big boy. Who's always had an ability to just stand in front and take big punches and deliver big ones back. But since he's transitioned from Eric Morales, who was his trainer for a while,

but now that Eric Morales is going into politics in Tijuana and they brought in Freddie Roach, I feel like he's unleashing even more another level of his offensive ability. I never would have thought that he would turn into that fighter that we saw in the last couple of fights, the close to Aravchenko win and the destruction of John Ryder. But here we are. So Luke,

if you're going to talk yourselves into this fight, being close and being a legit potential action fight in, in a threat to Canelo, which I do think it is, I do think it is. I think there are clues and facts around. If we are now going to stop ourselves from making the knee jerk reactions, Canelo is going to tune Munguia up like a guitar, right?

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, no, he could, but here's the deal. I don't think we should overlook this. Canelo is ducking David Benavidez. Wow. We, you know what we need? We need the hip hop horn. And the good news for boxing fans is that if there's any,

if there's a fight that you would accept in place of the Benavidez fight, I do think it's Munguia right now, right? It just makes sense commercially style wise action potential, but I really don't like what Canelo has been doing. Maybe still Canelo plans on fighting Benavidez this fall. And this is just all about keeping his value, you know, keeping the negotiation on his side and maybe just not allowing David Benavidez to dictate to Benavidez's credit. He's moving up to 175.

He's also like, he's basically like F you Canelo. I got my own career to go after, but Canelo's most recent comments just a week and a half ago, where if I was going to fight David Benavidez, I would have to do it at a catch weight or a rehydration clause weight. And if I do that, no one's going to fight David Benavidez, I would have to do it at a catch weight or a rehydration clause weight. And if I do that, no one's going to give me credit. So I'm just not going to fight him, which doesn't make any sense, any sense at all. You moved up to 75 and knocked out Kovalev. You moved up to 75 and lost to Bivol in a big fight.

So Luke, I'm just wondering if there's signs there to us, if there's signs there that not that Canelo's old and washed and, and see, he's ducking him. That's that's, that's proof, but maybe he doesn't want the smoke on that level. So maybe in his mind, Munguia,

certainly not as skilled as Benavidez. Maybe Luke, there's an idea that this man who we thought put the train back on the tracks against Charlo because of how one-sided it was after those sort of whole-hum decision wins against Ryder where we were just sort of like, we knew he had the injury, we knew he wasn't training at full speed like he was when he ran his way to the super middleweight title undisputed and run through all those unbeaten champions.

I'm wondering, Luke, if that's a sign to us that he doesn't necessarily want to be in there and get the smoke of Benavidez. Could that lift? I mean, Munguia, could that mean that Canelo doesn't is overlooking what's coming his way and he's going to be in a real action.

I look, I'll tell you right now, like I'm probably going to pick Canelo and you should odds wise, right? The experience and all that. Yeah. If you want, by the way,

very quickly, the odds on this bout, according to our friends at draft Kings, I mean, Munguia plus four 25 Canelo Alvarez minus 600. And that makes sense. But Canelo is going to have to fight to win this. He's going to have to fight through Munguia, fight him off to win this.

I'm just wondering if that gap is going to close in ways that right now we can't imagine. One thing, now Oscar De La Hoya is a promoter. We tried to get him on the show today. I wish we had him right here to talk about this. Golden boy a little mad at me over my Ryan Garcia takes. Understandable, but you know, it is what it is. Oscar said, maybe this fight is just like when he

fought Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. the first time. When Chavez Sr. was like 34, thought that he still had it, but he was close to like, you know, getting old, so to speak. And what did De La Hoya go in there as the young kid? All of Mexico backed the old guy Chavez. They weren't really ready yet to fully embrace this Mexican And what did De La Hoya go in there as the young kid, all of Mexico backed the old guy, Chavez. They weren't really ready yet to fully embrace this Mexican-American in De La Hoya.

And De La Hoya, the younger fighter, although he was much more skilled than Munguia, come in there and beat up Chavez, caught him, stopped him. They ended up doing the rematch two years later. Chavez a little bit older. He did a little bit better. He still got stopped again. It's an interesting proposition from Oscar that we all have this mindset, this idea. Okay, we know who Canelo is.

We know he's going to go in there and chop him up. But what if Charlo fight was fool's gold? What if Canelo is aging naturally after turning pro at 15, after being in nothing but title fights and being on top of the sport for a full decade as a pound for pound guy and as a commercial pay-per-view star, the biggest in the sport. Maybe it does have soft connotations of what De La Hoya versus Chavez Sr. was, where eventually, Luke, the young is going to take out the old. Is this the potential day of wrecking that Canelo doesn't see coming,

that this fight is going to be more physical and closer than we expect? That is what is driving me, and that does sort of play into the idea of we were so dismissive of Ryan Garcia's chances, but then he put it together. What if Jaime Munguia is in the midst of putting it together, just as Canelo might be looking at the business side of it a won't say duress, but under a little bit of pressure. Because we are, certain reports were like, oh, he wanted Jamal Charlo. And that was a, you know, he really didn't want another one. Because there was a set list of three opponents that PBC gave him at the beginning of his original contract. That's right.

Allegedly, anyway. There's a way to look at this and say the reason Canelo took Munguia aside from some business considerations is because he was trying to put off the day of reckoning later in other words he did not think that we thought Munguia was a safe bet to avoid the reckoning that could come with age or inevitability or David Benavidez or however you would like to put that Munguia was a way around that yet it's an all-Mexican affair. It's an action fight. That's why he would do it.

I'll say this, BC. Try not to make the bonehead error, if I can avoid it. The tape on Munguia is not necessarily super inspiring. Sure. He throws a lot of the same combos. He does not have nearly the same defensive awareness. I think he's,

he would need against Canelo better angles though. The last two fights to set up his power shot. Yes. And he's gone the distance two times in this weight class. He went the distance of bonds with, with like, I think Hogan or, or Liam Smith or so,

or Takeshi in a way he went at a different weight class. This way class, it was Ryder and Derevyanchenko. And so that was good but I'll just say this like I went into the Garcia fight thinking he had no chance and he showed some new wrinkles and what we what have we always said about guys who are hitting that 27 28 year mark which is right exactly where Mungi is that's when you really still begin to see some major innovation in their game as they really fully become man strength. Everything they're entering their prime, everything begins to gel.

Canelo probably should win this fight BC. And I don't think he made an arrogant call picking Munguia. I think he made a calculated call, but it does seem to me that he is trying to avoid the tougher fights out there. And it, this would, I mean, let me just ask you BC, if Canelo ends up losing, first of all, like he never gets a bad call on a decision, right? I mean, we just know in Vegas, Canelo is like absolutely, I mean, ironclad when it comes to getting the judges nod.

So let's imagine something. Let's imagine Munguia does get the win and does it via decision in Las Vegas. What kind of a boxing earthquake would that be? It'd be large. It'd be very large. You'd just set up a big money rematch. Boy, would you, right? Huge, right? Huge rematch. It would allow Canelo to do, you know, the older guy

trick that a lot of legends do. Let me just add this. I think it actually relieves the pressure of the David Benavidez fight. Temporarily. The pressure would increase if he came back and won the rematch, which is like, you know, Ali lost to Leon Spinks, came back, won the rematch. And if he won, it'd be a KO or something. Sure, sure.

But for the time being, if he loses to Munguia, they're like, dude, if you're losing to Munguia, you have no hope against Benavidez. In theory, yeah. In theory. I mean, look, I don't take pleasure in trying to say Canelo's ducking him. I love Canelo. Canelo's been one of the best guys to cover forever because he's always been about giving the fans what they want,

about saying, I don't care, give me all the best fighters. I mean, he moved up to 75 twice. He dares to be great on the regular. But now he's in the Floyd Mayweather welterweight period of his career, and he's learned from Mayweather these business choices and the leverage you have as the A-side. He never used to abuse his leverage, Luke, outside of, as we always say,

making Gulliv can wait two additional years until he was a little bit into his mid-30s and a little bit older still very close controversial fights but eventually you can't get every close decision right you know you really can't what if munguia fights over his head it'll be interesting in this matchup to see but you can't argue with me him not fighting benavides right now there's no excuse in fact that he's being he is being uh being the sanctioning bodies are going way out of their way to help him. You realize that David Morrell Jr., the unbeaten super middleweight, who's on that big card we just previewed, has been the mandatory at WBA forever for Canelo.

David Benavidez is the interim champion and the mandatory in WBC forever for Canelo. But yet the WBA and WBC did not make them the mandate. I'm sorry, they were right there as number one contenders, but they didn't basically say Canelo. But yet the WBA and WBC did not make them the mandate. Like did not, I'm sorry. They, they were, they were like right there as number one contenders, but they didn't basically say Canelo,

this is your mandatory. You must, because they have that super champion rule that they allow people, you know, to do what they want. The second that Morel moves up, guess who they made the number one contender. It was a,

what's his name? Who came over from top rank and signed with Eddie Hearn, a Berlanga, Edgar Berlanga instantly made him the number one mandatory contender for Canelo. And it's like, which is again, one of the fights that Canelo wanted.

Cause I, he wasn't looking for the tougher fights. Exactly. So it's like, they're helping him not do what he's supposed to do. They should tell him, look, you're fighting David Benavides for the belt.

And if you don't, you're stripped of the belt. That's how boxing works. That's why we have in theory, why these sanctioned bodies are supposed to help. So he's getting helped. I just don't like what Canelo is doing to his own reputation in this season. I'm just wondering if this is such a bad miss.

Let me ask one more question about this. Why isn't Canelo allowed to— Okay, so I fully agree with you that he's not taking the tougher fights. I don't really know how you could argue with that. What I will ask is, and again, I'm asking in good faith, which is, why isn't he allowed to do this right now? Is the simple answer, you actually could, but because you're holding the belts hostage, that's the problem. It's a combination of holding the belts hostage.

He became the undisputed champion after beating, after beating Caleb plant. We were there that time. Was that November of 2021? Maybe. And it's like, then he moved up to light heavyweight to do the B vol one. And there was talk about an eventual rematch. It didn't happen. And then he did the mandatory against John Ryder at home.

And then it's like, oh, you're starting your PBC deal, and here's Jermel Charlo, and he's the unbeaten, undisputed champion of 54. I was all for that fight. But at each step of the way, there are just excuses about why Benavidez wouldn't be next that make no sense for a guy that's a two-time former champion, interim champion, number one contender, all this stuff. It just makes no sense. But Luke, the other half of that equation is when you have built your reputation on not abusing the power you have and the leverage you have.

It's very disappointing for longtime fans and journalists like us who have protected Canelo for years because of that fact. We say, well, OK, we'll give him the benefit of the doubt because at the end of the day, he always makes the fights we want. If this is just to push it off a little bit more, that would make sense. But it doesn't is just to push it off a little bit more that would make sense but it doesn't make sense to push it off a little bit more Canelo is getting older every single day Benavidez is getting better every single day so what is he hoping that Benavidez is like uh you know goes up to 75 and can't make 68 anymore we don't have to talk about this anymore okay but like it's it's not a good look it's not

a good move I can't defend it at. I want to be able to defend that. Canelo was the anti-Floyd in some ways, right? When we were always getting on Floyd, fight Manny when we want you to fight Manny. Now, in the end, Floyd controlled this business. He fought everybody on his terms a lot of ways. We don't want to see Canelo abusing that power. We want to see him go in there and give what the fans want because that's what he's been about. That's why he's still doing this, Luke.

He can walk away. Do you know how rich Canelo is? I mean, you know how freaking rich he is? But, like like canelo's the one who's trying to be as great as he can be who's trying to put that resume out there so the mexican fans go man we love chavez senior but how are we gonna deny this guy look at who he's fought you have to go in there and fight benefits it's not like he's protecting an unbeaten record right he's got two defeats you know like you got to do it you got to do like you got to do it. You got to do it. You got to do it, Luke.

Or give up the belts. Or give up the belts and announce that I'm in the twilight period. I'm just going to take fun, big fights, crossover fights. I mean, the fact that he didn't fight Crawford, should have fought Crawford. Should have fought Benavidez. You're the champion of that fucking weight class. But if he fought Crawford, we wouldn't have said anything.

You're right. The Munguia fight is good enough where we're not saying a lot we still got to say it still got to say it at the end of the day yeah you're right if he fought Crawford I would be quiet about it but he didn't he fought he's fighting fucking Munguia who still might win that's the best part about it he still might win yeah all right how do you want to do this because we're supposed to have patchy mix here soon you want to start the next topic yeah let's start the next topic here we can just pause it in the middle number four it's not just canelo munguia this weekend ufc 301 in brazil was back with a flyweight main event between champion alexandre pantosia

and ufc newcomer steve urseg who is three and oh since making his octagon debut last june luke where does this main event rank in terms of all-time pay-per-view let down when we're talking about pay-per-view main events okay so let me just say this personally speaking i actually like this fight i like it a lot i think uh yeah you can put that on me anytime you want there fella there you go there you go it's like cooking a sandwich back there making things you listen i i told them not to bring the bong to work and they brought the dildo bong to work just the same what can you do um you see i'll say this i i like this fight i'm not asking anyone else to like it i'm not telling anybody they have to agree it's a great fight but man pay-per-view main event after 300 okay Come on. After 300, it is certainly a downgrade.

And you wondered, why couldn't you find some rando heavyweight to fight Alex Pineda? They just didn't do it. Whatever. Here we are. So I looked up the main events or events in general, certainly, that got a lot of pushback from fans. I was at some of these. So one of them would be Holly Holm versus GDR, Jermaine Durand and me. Not a fight that expired.

No, it was supposed to be Cyborg. This is UFC 208. UFC 149 was kind of thrown, not thrown together, Jermaine Durand and me. Not a fight that expired. No, it was supposed to be Cyborg. This is UFC 208. UFC 149 was kind of thrown, not thrown together, but there's a ton of injuries, so it ended up being Faber versus Burrell, but it wasn't the blockbuster that it sounds like. Krokop versus Mir is big names, but the fight was dreadful until the last second. Evans versus Henderson was just two old guys not doing anything. They weren't that old, though. I was excited for that fight on paper.

It was a letdown as a fight. Sure. On paper, it was certainly much better. We're talking about on paper. On paper, I think the worst is probably UFC 12. It was a letdown as a fight. But you're right, on paper, it was certainly much better. On paper, I think the worst is probably UFC 122, Marquardt versus Okami. But that fight took place in Germany,

which was not a big priority for them. Brazil kind of still is. So let's table this conversation. I'll give an answer after the interview because there's a bit of a notation, a historical notation I'd like to make to this. Well, we will pause this discussion. We'll be back for more UFC 301. And of course, to quickly recap, the UFC that went down this weekend,

but we have a special guest sliding in. He's the Bellator Bantamweight Champion of the World. And on May 17th at Bellator 303 in Paris, he will defend his title in a rematch with Magomed Magomedov, who he put to sleep on this reign of terror. Let's welcome in Patchy Mix. As Luke said, maybe, maybe the best Bantamweight we have in this world today. Patchy, this run you are on of late, this six-fight win streak,

but really the last five in particular, you're a different man. You're super elite. I have no idea where your ceiling actually is, which has got to be a great place to be when you hear us keyboard warriors always try to break down your game. How'd you do it? How are you feeling right now on top of the world? I feel great, man. You know, I'm on top of the world. Like you said, I feel like I'm breaking in. I'm tapping into the diehard, you know, the people that really know the sport. They're kind of seeing, you know, just how special I am. It's not just this last six fights, you know.

I've had, like, I think 31 between amateur and professional fights, and I've won 30 of them. I'm one round removed from winning, you know, every fight I've ever been a part of. So, you know, I think it's, you know, a testament of, like testament of like just the years of you know i've been putting in work so long and you know right now it's i feel like you know it's my time you know two weeks i'm gonna put this guy to sleep again and uh i'm gonna punch that record to 20 and one oh hell yeah let's talk about the shirt right there patch look at this look this. Look at this. The go on there. That's a message to us, isn't it? Yeah, man. You know, you got to support.

Tatiana actually got me this shirt. So, you know, I wanted to wrap up the interview. You know, I like it. All right. I want to ask you one more here about your startup here. PFL absorbing the Bellator roster. You're in the Bellator International Championship Series. We'll see you in Paris, as I mentioned.

How has that transition process been for you as a champion fighter? And were you kind of given the opportunity to pick your lane in terms of PFL having, I guess, three, four, five different sort of divisions underneath their banner? Yeah, I didn't really get to pick my lane because for Bantamweight, they don't have a 135-pound division. So I didn't get to get a super fight similar to the other divisions. And obviously, they went to Saudi Arabia, and they did an event there. So I didn't get a chance to go there. And obviously, I'm not going in the tournament because they don't have Bantamweight. So I stuck with Bellator in my own lane over here and just decided to defend my belt.

And it just so happened it was going to be a rematch against the number four ranked guy in MAGA. I guess he's coming off a win himself. Pachi, to what extent are you excited for this bout? I've noticed that one thing that's happened with a lot of the Bellator guys, especially like you, the elite ones that came over, a lot of rematches happening. How do you feel about it? A lot of rem Bellator guys, especially like you, the elite ones that came over. A lot of rematches happening. How do you feel about it? A lot of rematches, man. I've seen it.

I think Liz Karmouche rematched that other girl for the third time. Yeah, there's like four or five rematches I've seen. So, you know, I wasn't sure what to make of it. But, you know, I make champ money. So, you know, I'm just excited to fight. And I'm looking at it as a complete different fight. I think Maga was one of my hardest fights that I've ever prepared for. You know, I was very nervous going into that fight.

And now I just look at it as a whole new fight. And I have a chance to show off a lot more skills that I've been working on. And I think when I fought him 18 months ago, I feel like, you know, I'm a lot better now. So I'm very excited to show my arsenal. I think we only fought for seven minutes, you know. We got a fresh 25 minutes here, and, you know, I'm coming out guns blazing, everything. Just because I'm curious, is 145 a possibility for you? Yeah, 145 is a possibility.

You know, whatever kind of excites, you know, whatever excites the fans, you know, whatever excites me, you know. Obviously, I'm going in this division and I'm on my way around it. You know, I'm going to lap it. I fought everyone in the top five already. So, you know, after this rematch, I don't know what's going to be next for me. And, um, you know, I could see one 45 in the future. Um, you know, I know Patricio Pitbull has the belt up there. Um, I could see, you know, obviously the last guy I just finished has a win over him five rounds to nothing. Um, I could see myself going, maybe, you know,

there's other PFL fighters at 45 over there you know Braga just got a nice win Panetta won the tournament last year let's see how Brendan Lockney does this year you know there's some big you know there's exciting fights for me everywhere you know so definitely at 135 or

145 you know so here's one of my questions like when I watch you compete especially after that run you had to win the tournament. I was like, dude, this guy, I mean, if he's not the best bantamweight, I don't, I mean, this is just, just absolutely obliterating people. And like, when you do something like that, your mind as a fight fan begins to think like what's possible. Let me ask this question.

Has PFL or anyone who works in the Bellator situation currently, have they laid out a vision for you, how they see your year or next two years going? No, more so my manager does that, Ali. I guess with everything being so new, I don't really have my, you know, I've had my vision for the last previous two years. You know, it was to win the Grand Prix. It was to, you know, viciously win the grand prix it was to you know

viciously knock out rufi on stats it was to um win the undisputed belt because i knew sergio had it so now um i don't really know my vision right now i guess it's just um i already have the most finishes in bantamweight history i have the most submissions in bantamweight history i'm just going to add to my list you know i want defend this belt as many times as I can and finish anybody that they put me across from. So I guess Ali is the one to really create my landscape over the next year, who I'm going to fight or where I'm going to go with it. It's a beautiful backdrop behind you.

What state are we catching you in? It's Las Vegas, right? You're in Vegas. I'm in Vegas, man, yeah. Yeah, I live in Vegas right now, man, yeah. So I'm just in my backyard hanging out. I got a couple sessions in a little bit, and I leave for Paris in 11 days.

So, you know, it's the end of my camp now. Well, I mentioned we always knew of your dangerous ability or submission game but man this streak when you go through gallagher horiguchi you put magomed off to sleep you're flying knee stats i mean you took out sergio pettis it's like damn yeah bro you know sometimes you look back on that though patchy and there's like something changed along the way did you change training was there a mindset change? Was there anything that really helped fuel this? Yeah, you know, so like, I guess just money and being able to, once I got in the Grand Prix, you know, I was fighting in Bellator for not much, not crazy money.

You know, I fought for the title. My first fight, I came up short. I actually took that fight on like three and a half weeks notice after he had pulled out the first fight because of COVID. They rebooked us. I kind of wasn't ready. I took the fight. That's how I ended up getting my first loss, and I had to go back to making just like contender money, you know.

And it wasn't a lot, you know. It wasn't crazy money. So when they put me in the Grand Prix, and I actually had met Tatiana prior to that, and I just took like fighting more serious, you know, because the opportunity, you know, to make millions of dollars was, you know, huge. And I took it and I just went all in, kind of trained like a part time fighter for a lot of fights, you know, not part time, but just not all the way all in. I was probably like 80% in. So I just kind of changed my life, and I took off from Buffalo. I moved to Las Vegas. I stopped doing camps at places. I just came strictly here and changed my life to training every single day.

I don't do training camp anymore. I just train like this for the last three years, and I think that's what changed it. But these special victories and all this this for the last three years. And, um, I think that's what changed it, but you know, these special victories and all this stuff over the last, you know, my couple of four or five fights, I really don't even think that's like, you know, the people that really, truly know me, they see me in the gym and I compete with the world's best from 135 to all the way up to 170. And, um, every single person that's ever seen me compete or train they know i'm the i'm the best in the world at 135 it's not even a question um you know i you know i i feel

like the only two people that are up there it could be is me and marab you know we did a fight simulation of five rounds last week five fives in a row. I think that me and him are at the top. Wow, how'd you deal with that cardio? I mean, that guy's got gas tanks. A lot of cardio. Yeah, we both got a lot of cardio too, you know? I'm looking to show that. I'm looking to show that in two and a half weeks myself.

I finish a lot of guys, but when I'm prepped and I'm ready, I could go for 10 rounds. So I'm excited to show, you know, the evolution in my own game. And, you know, just prove, you know, I feel like my statistics, you know, my stats, you know, they speak for themselves. But, you know, I'm just looking to add to that. And, you know, 20-1 with 16 finishes. I've barely ever lost rounds. So I'm just looking to, you know, I'm going to be a three-time world champion in two and a half weeks in Paris. And I'm bringing my, you know, my girl, my entire family, all my friends there.

So I'm excited for the show. You know, it's going to be my show, Bellator 303. You know, going to be surrounded by me, you know, around me and, you know, being the main event now, rightfully so, you know, I feel like, you know, it just has to be a special performance, you know? Sure. Yeah. Usman Nurmagomedov pulling out of that. So now you're the featured bout for sure. You mentioned Tatiana Suarez, your significant other, and you mentioned that as sort of meeting her, developing that relationship, being a big part of your career. When you get two alphas, when iron sharpens iron,

not just in preparation, but in the day-to-day mental, what advantage is that? It's a huge advantage. You know, she's an Olympic athlete, you know, one of the best, the best wrestler ever to grace, you know, I think women's MMA.

So, you know, being with her is, you know, the training regimen, the discipline and, you know, I think women's MMA. So, you know, being with her is, you know, the training regimen, the discipline, and, you know, more so like the mindset is, you know, I try to take those qualities from her. And, you know, she supports me through, you know, my good days and my training, my bad days of training, you know, you know, even outside of training, you know, she supports me through my life. So it's important, I feel, you know, uh, you know, even outside of training, you know, she supports me through my life. So it's important. Um, I feel, you know, to have someone like that, um, being a champion myself, um, you know, I feel like she's already, you know, if it weren't for her injury, she'd be a multi-time multi-time world champion already. And, uh, without a doubt, she's going to be the UFC world champion. So, you know, just having her support and, you know, being able to work together with someone like that, it's a huge advantage for me when I feel like my preparation, getting ready for these bouts, getting ready for these fights, you know.

I feel like, you know, my last three fights, I probably could have done those all in a night. I think there were like three rounds, you know, total or something, 15 minutes total. So, you know, I think like, you know, the team that I surrounded myself around and not just that, but my significant others, obviously, you know, the huge support system that I have helps me, you know, helps me perform. Yeah.

Luke, she's going to be a problem for Whaley. I want you to know that. I have no doubt. Not a single doubt. Patchy. Yeah, Luke, she's going to be a problem for Whaley. I want you to know that. I have no doubt. Not a single doubt. Patchy, what would you say in the last three years has been, when you assess your own game,

what has been the biggest area of development? I'm not saying the best part of your game, but the one that's made the biggest change. The biggest change was leaving Jackson Wink and then kind of coming out to vegas and um at the end of my 10th try at jackson wink i think i was like seven and oh and i fought for the bellator world title out of jackson i was seven and oh with seven finishes or something

in a row and i fought for the title and i was just like a grappler that could only kind of grapple. I never really developed my striking. So then I moved here. Right before I had moved here, though, for my world championship fight, I worked with Six Gun Gibson. And I was developing right then and there. Like for that camp solely, it was a short one. It was just a couple months I was able to work with them.

But when I moved here, I stuck with my development and my striking striking my overall game and um i just trained like a madman so now like you know i just don't you know i'm world class on the ground but i'm world class on the feet too you know i light up lightweights you know that are fucking world class i light up a lot of um you know a lot of a lot of people so i think the development of my overall game, blending the striking with my grappling, and then also taking my grappling to the next level, training with Mikey Musumichi, Nicky Ryan,

J-Rod, all these, Anato Kanuto, Andy Varala. I train with the world's best in jiu-jitsu, and I scrap with all these guys. I'm one with the world's best in jiu-jitsu, and I scrap with all these guys. I'm one of the world's best in jiu-jitsu too. It's like having these outlets to train with all these top-level grapplers and fighters.

Las Vegas has changed my life over the last three years, and I've really been able to take advantage of all the sessions, man. You know, I could get, you know, three or four sessions every single day, Monday through Sunday, except Saturday probably. You know, and I can go to, I can pick and choose where I want to go. And, you know, it just helps me develop. By the way, do you, you mentioned a couple B-team guys. Do you go to B-team or does the B-team come to you? No, they were in Vegas just recently for, you know, the ADCC trials.

Oh, yes, yes, yes. But I speak with, I'm real tight with Damian Anderson. He's one of my boys. And, you know, big shout out to Damian. And then I got in with Nicky Ryan. He spent a week out here. And I roll with him every single fucking day. This kid's nasty, man.

I love chopping it up with him, rolling with him. And, you know, he's, like, great mind, great coach for jiu-jitsu. So those guys were out here. And I plan to actually go do some training out with them guys now, now that they spent some time here. And I got to pick their brains because I learned so much shit from them and then also mikey misamichi was out here um uh he was training in ali's class and uh that guy he blew my brain um you know my mind was boggled just how much stuff he knows i mean he's like very light i think he's the number one uh rank grappler

at 135 pounds in the world right now but But, you know, he's a monster. He's like the Gordon Ryan of Bantamweight, you know? All right, so one more from me here, if I may. I have a very high opinion of your game. I think you might already be the world's best Bantamweight. But just do me a solid here. If I told you today we're going to make a fight between you and current UFC Bantamweight Champion Sean O'Malley.

How do you beat Sean O'Malley? What would you do? I mean, do you see how Peter Yan, I think he was like four for six on takedowns, kind of broke him down, pressured him. I feel like truly, I don't think he'd last probably 10 minutes with me. You know what I mean? I pressure him. I put him on his back foot, and I take him down and i'd smash him and i'd break him and if i didn't do that i mean we're talking about the knee he landed on chito vera look at the knee i landed on 19 and one

rufy on stats you know i took his lights out in one minute i found the timing i could understand the range i could understand the distance. I just truly feel I think I'm in a different league than that guy and I think I'd finish him. Look at our stats. Look at who he's fought. Look at who I've fought. Look how many rounds I've lost.

Look how many rounds he's lost. I'm one round removed from 31-0. That guy's not the guy to beat without a doubt. I love the confidence right there. Okay. A couple more and then we'll let you out of here. Should we put respect on like the greater Buffalo, Niagara Falls area,

the producing you, John Jones, Rashad Evans, among many others. And also I've been to Rochester a few times. You would take down a garbage plate. You move over there and maybe take one down, you know,

a little. Yeah. Yeah. I know the know the garbage place I just I don't fuck with those but uh that's why he looks that way and I look this way right yeah yeah right not me but um yeah uh Rashad Evans went to the same college as I did um you know I wrestled at the same school as he did for a year actually and then I pursued MMA. I think Jones was from, you know, a couple hours away from where from. But yeah, man, it's cool to see Billy Quarantillo is actually from an hour from. Hell yeah. He's from right there too. You know, he's one of my boys.

I trained with him probably six, seven years ago growing up, coming up. So it's like, you know, definitely respect on the name. We got Josh Allen, you know, definitely respect on the name. We got Josh Allen, you know, the quarterback, uh, the Buffalo bills, you know,

he's the pride and joy of our, um, probably of our city right now, but they definitely got to put respect on, um, you know, I think my name shit, Bellator champion,

you know, coming out of Buffalo, New York. Um, you know, I feel like there could be more, uh, you know, more love from the city

Patchy you just need to jump through a fiery table in the Bills mafia parking lot and then you'll get it alright let me close I do that with the Bellator belt on I don't know man you know let me close with this Patchy I've never interviewed before and always wanted to

but we have talked one time before I doubt you remember do you remember the high rollers when you took on yeah we were there we met you and you won in like 40 seconds i remember meeting you guys i just i don't remember it though i remember let me tell you there though patchy they're passing around those gimmicks those joints no no they were they were passing around pre-rolls i know and they're like luke's got 18 of them in his pocket and the whole building is filled with smoke, and it's the greatest night of our lives, and you walk by, and I'm like, Patchy, tap that motherfucking ass. And you looked at me as if I had eight heads, and I deserved it, Patchy, so sorry to break your concentration. I love it.

No, it was awesome, man. You know, I didn't like that little weasel Tim Elliott either, so I was glad to choke him out. You know what I mean? I was super glad to choke him out for some reason. I don't know why. He keeps commenting about the Archuleta rematch. Should bring him to Vegas and choke him out again.

Did you have a contact high? I had a fucking contact high when I walked in that place. I think I smoked a couple joints before I choked that little kid out. We could have been hanging with this guy a long time ago. What the fuck are we doing? Could have, man.

We could have. 100%. All right, next time we're in Vegas, we're going to make something happen for you. You guys hit me up. You guys hit me up. All right. Your career might end with a Bellator title, PFL title and a million dollars, and a UFC title, maybe?

Possible. Man, I want all the titles. I could be the first male, I think, to get the three, I guess. seat title maybe possible man i want all the titles you know i could get you know i could be the first male i think to get the three i guess but you know just right now i got i got the grand prix belt the interim belt the undisputed belt so i got three bellator belts in there i want to get my fourth belt i think they like kind of reconfigured it now with pfl and the Bellator. I've seen it on their last

event in Ireland. So I want a new belt. That's four belts in about 13 months or something. So I'm happy. There it is. We'll see you May 17th, Bellator 303 in Paris. The rematch with Magomed Magomedov. Patchy Mix, thank you for the time, man. Thank you, Patchy. Go kick some ass.

Thank you, guys, bro. I love your support always, guys. We have a high opinion of you. We expect big things. It's not just because we're high. That's Patchy Mix right there. Thank you, brother. By the way, love him shouting out Billy Q, friend of the program.

Billy Q is a friend of the program. We need to get back to UFC 301. Talk very quickly, BC. Let me do this here, if I may. By the way, the UFC is returning to Brazil. UFC 301 for another weekend for a UFC pay-per-view. They have what I would consider

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I'm going to take a dump in your sink next time I'm at your place. BC, I want to talk about this fight again with Steve Erseg and Alexandre Pantoja. Here is the issue. I listed to talk about this fight again with Steve Erseg and Alexandre Pantoja. Here is the issue. I listed some of the other fights that have gotten some of the fans ire, I should say. So, for example, UFC 208, Holly Holm versus Jermaine Durand to me. I looked this up.

Steve Erseg has three fights in the UFC. Two of them were on prelims. One of them very early prelims. One was on a main card. The only main card fight he was on was at an apex event so now he's going to be headlining a pay-per-view in a foreign country where they don't even speak english um it's a huge task so i understand why the fans might be somewhat upset or at a bare minimum asking themselves, does this card have the requisite depth?

Here's another part to it. Jose Aldo is in the co-main event returning out of retirement against Jonathan Martinez. Yes. But if you actually look at who's ranked, there are no fighters inside the main card who are ranked in single digits. You have Erceg at 10, you have Anthony Smith at 10,

and the champion in Alexandre Pantoja is actually above the rankings. They're not listed. So it's not like you don't have quality fighters, but the amount of quality relative to obviously coming off of 301, it would just be disingenuous to say there's not a big difference. There's a substantial difference. And look, I'm not going to do some big, you know, this thing sucks, let's show up in another day in a video.

We just want consistency, right? Like I get that this is the hangover from 300. So like it is what it is, right? We do get Jose Aldo back. It was supposed to be Dominic Cruz. That would have been interesting, but this fight is also. I like the Aldo fight better. This fight is also kind of interesting against Jonathan Martinez, but we just want consistency.

299 was great, right? 298 was great. 300 was great. I'm fired up for the Saudi main event coming up. But I get upset not just at these Apex Fight Night cards. We're going to talk about this one that was on Saturday getting less and less where you need to see it. I mean, like, you don't need to see it at all. I don't want to see the pay-per-views get there.

I know this is just the 300 hangover pay-per-view card. They loaded up 300. I get it. But we want to see consistency because Luke, I want to say that this is the end of it and we'll be back to normal business. But dude, the Conor McGregor undercard for UFC three Oh two or three Oh three,

right? Three Oh three, three Oh three, uh, June 29th in Vegas with, is it round tree versus Jamal Hill in the coal main? I actually liked that fight. Okay.

I liked that fight. Just like I like Irseg versus Pantoja, but Irseg versus Pantoja. But Erceg versus Pantoja shouldn't be a pay-per-view main event with a card that week below it, and that fight shouldn't be the co-main event of International Fight Week, just like I didn't think Hill versus Pereira should have been the 300 main event. That card worked out.

Sometimes cards overachieve, whatever. It's not my point to be a hater. You just want to see consistency across the board, don't you? Fair enough. Pantoja versus Erceg in the main event. I think Erceg is a bit of a live dog. Oh, hell yeah. I don't know if I'm picking him to win, but... He's the storyline of the whole card, in my opinion.

If you are feeling a little bit froggy with your betting, I don't think it's a bad one. Co-main event, Jonathan Martinez ranked 13 against the returning Jose Aldo. This could be the swan song for Anthony Smith at 10, taking on Vitor Petrino, who sits at 15. Obviously, they've got a gringo versus a Brazilian, which they do the entire card, essentially. Petrino, who sits at 15. Obviously, they've got a gringo versus a Brazilian, which they do the entire card, essentially.

Petrino, by the way, a hammer. This is going to be a big breakout fight for him, I think. Michel Pareda, who seems reformed at middleweight, taking on Ihor Potieria, who, by the way, is a weirdo, but has good tattoos. And then our man, Paul Craig, out of Scotland, ranked 13,

taking on Caio Bojalio. That's a good-ass fight. That's a great fight. You actually look at the quality ofjalio. That's a good-ass fight. That's a great fight. That's a good-ass fight. So this is what I mean. Like, you actually look at the quality of the card. It's a very good fight night card. I don't...

That's right. It's a very... This is the kind of card that Demetrius Johnson used to headline on Fox. Or a quarterly UFC on Fox card. It's... 100%. You look at this card.

If I had to ask you the question, if you're a real MMA fan and you watch this, are you going to have a good time? There's a decent chance the answer is going to be yes. You'll have a better time than you will fight Nightmare. But does it have a lot of bouts of consequence, significance, or star power? No, it does not. I am looking to see specifically if Erseg in his fourth UFC fight can have the type of quick turnaround that Poitana's had of late,

that Prochazka had of late winning a title in his third UFC fight, that who else? Look, we've seen, you know, Topori has had more fights, but he's sort of come out of nowhere and taken over. Iverson could be the new champion on Saturday. It's going to be a very interesting fight. I think O'Teal's kids, by the way,

play with Pantoja's kids in South Florida. Isn't that a wild MK? That is a wild MK. All right, we are short on time, so we got to get this moving if we can. Last question on our top five, BC. We don't have to spend a ton of time here, really, at all. There's really not necessarily a lot to say.

The UFC was back at the apex, and there was a couple of interesting notes about it. Alex Perez scores a quick win, obviously, over Mateus Nikolaou, but I think it was a big right hook. It was a beautiful knockout punch. It was a beautiful knockout. I don't know if this does a substantial change to the rankings, but I did want to bring this up if i may in the case of um perez perez he hadn't won since 2020 was that the fight that got him the title shot

he had had uh i believe so it was the one uh yes that's right before he got choked out against figgy but he had had nine canceled bouts and then three losses. And so you get to this point, you're like, dude, good for him. Currently, he sits at eight in the rankings. He'll probably go up a little bit inside to maybe the top five. It depends because Nikolai was sitting at five. So it does change the rankings a little bit, BC. It's a good win, I suppose, for him. He seemed so ecstatic, not just because he got the finish,

but it seemed like he had exercised some demons along the way. For me, BC, the only other one of standout of note, Earl O. Schmidich got a first round stoppage over Dirty Bird, Tim Means. Tim Means has been one of these guys where if you looked at guys who had beaten Tim Means, almost all of them are very high quality guys. Out of Albuquerque, he was with Fit NHB, which was Carlos Condit's original team. Gave Mike Perry hell. Gave Mike Perry, gave a lot of guys tough fights. But he went down in the first round. He's nearly 40 years old.

Good win, though, for Erdos Minic. Anything else to you stand out? Yeah, Joe Martinez, our favorite announcer, losing his voice. I did see that. And Charlie Arnold, a.k.a. FKA Charlie Caruso from WWE, had to step in admirably. I don't know who she is. You don't know who she is?

She's filled in on first take for ESPN. She was a WWE announcer. She does the sideline roles for some of the fight night cards. She, you don't know her. She is. She's, she's filled in on first take for ESPN. She was a WWE announcer. She's, but does the sideline roles for some of the fight night cards. You don't. Oh, I've seen her. Yes.

Sorry. Yeah. I have seen her in some of those roles for five nights. I just don't, I don't know her bio. We'll see a couple of KOs. And have you seen this shit from this card coming up? But if a fight night card happens and no one talks about it,

did it actually make a noise? It's amazing to me. Like if you're a hardcore fan, again, you'll find some value to watch. Like if you're a hardcore fan, again, you'll find some value to watch. Or if you're a gambling addict, you'll find long Island. Luke,

like long Island. Luke is, I mean, he's showing up here with like casts on his arm and shit. But I mean, if you, if you, if you're like,

if you're a hardcore fight fan, if I'm being serious, there is something to like about it. But do you need to watch apex fightights in order to keep up with the sport? No. Well, not these. Not these, Luke.

Sorry. Not these ones, yes. Not the Derek Lewis one coming up either. Sorry. That one's in St. Louis. That's the difference. I'll be tuning in for New Manza. You better believe that.

I will as well. All right. That's our top five. Do we want to set this up? Go for it. All right. So the NFL draft, I believe, is now either finished or they're going to do round seven or whatever it is. But we've been in the midst of that.

And we have been Mr. Irrelevant times two for a long time. That's been really the name of the game. The reality is there has been some talk about introducing a 165-pound division. And in fact, there's been talk about this for a long time. I've done this exercise before many, many years ago, but I've not updated it. Today, through the MK draft, we're going to build together. It's an experiment. An experiment to build a 165-pound division in the UFC.

BC and I are going to draft from 55 and now what will eventually be 75, but 70 pound weight class to see what does it look like with a top 15 at one 65? And what is your remainder at one 55 and one? So we are not, we are not drafting our own teams are competing. What we're looking to see is if it, if it matters. Now you've always been on record saying you think it needs a 165 pound

division. I've always been on records from the boxing standpoint. I'm saying no, no more titles. I like the way it works now. No diggity. I'd like to bag it up. Do you like that?

Everybody's saying no diddy. I mean, everybody's saying no diddy. Now it's kind of funny. I have to admit it. It's kind of funny. The bag it up part. I don't like,

you know what I'm saying? I just know zippy bags for me. Okay. Okay. So Luke, how are we going to execute this? All right. So here's one rule.

You cannot draft a champion. So Leon has to stay at 175 and Islam has to stay at 155, which is interesting because to me, both of those guys could move around a little bit. Yes. Especially Islam going up to 65. I think he'd be a great candidate, but I believe if you're a champion, you have to hold onto your weight class and then we go from there. All right.

So here's how it's going to go. You're going to get no more than 60 seconds to make a pick, and we're going to try and build a top 15 and see what it looks like. Are you going to go first, sir? I will go first in the pick, and I will just tell you, the pick is in. By the way, when they picked Jaden Daniels for the commanders, my pants were around my ankles. Oh, wow.

Does that sound copyright? All right, with the first pick in the MK 165-pound draft, I pick Ian Gary. Ian Gary. I want him to go to 165 pounds. I think he works well there. Why is he the number one pick in our draft? I had other names, but they're all old. I wanted to introduce at the top some youth to see how it

goes bc you're on the clock yeah that's ian machado gary by the way all right i watched the video from leila where she gave three facts that people got wrong about her husband okay the guy does not live in their house okay yeah i know it's a surprise it's a bunch of bullshit okay here we go number two you guys say the pick is in i was about to the pick is in. I was about to. The pick is in. I love that chime. With the second selection in the 165-pound UFC draft, your boy BC selects... Benoit Saint-Denis. B-S friggin' D, Luke. Okay.

Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. So we've got... Tell me why you picked him. Because I do actually believe his excuses of how that fight against Poirier fell apart

and the ridiculous staff infection that he fought through like another great 165 or Kevin Lee did in his Tony Ferguson title fight and almost won it too. But I think, Luke, this is actually that perfect in-between for a guy with his skill set. And I think that he could win a title as it is in his own division in the

moment as he gets back in the ladder, but he's young. I don't think he's shown us anywhere close to how good he's going to be. This is my guy for this. Well, based on that, I'm going to go ahead and say it. Long Island,

Luke, the pick is in third pick of the MK one 65 pound draft. Very simply BC, Dustin Poirier, Dustin Poirier. And I'll tell you why, very simply, BC. Dustin Poirier. Whoa. Dustin Poirier. And I'll tell you why I'm going to go with Dustin Poirier here.

I'm surprised. So high. So high. Well, I mean, there's other names you can go to, but I'm going to pick him here. And the reason why is, one, you're adding a little bit of seniority to the division. I think no matter what, listen, he could beat Islam, and we'll see how that goes. I don't think that's the likeliest outcome. I think the likeliest outcome is Islam's like me and Khabib are bad style matchups for him.

I think that's probably true. And so I don't think he's done, but he might be done at 155. You put a 165-pound division. He cuts less weight. He's already a big puncher. I think that carries up. I think he's a great addition to 165. BC, you are on the clock.

Okay, wow. I didn't know you could pick him that high, Luke, because I don't think he's got, I think he's a great addition to 165. BC, you are on the clock. Okay, wow. I didn't know you could pick him that high, Luke, because I don't think he's got a lot left, and I don't know if he can handle the wrestling at 165. The question, though, is... You're going to bring some welterweights down that are going to take him the frick down. That's fine, but here's the problem. Remember, you've got to drain 155 a little bit to make 165. I can

pick bigger names, but what does that leave at 155? Again, if you're the UFC and you're managing this matriculation to the center, you've got to leave some meat on the bone at 175. You've got to leave some meat on the bone. Dustin Poirier, again, if he loses to Islam, what is left for him at 55?

Nothing. But at 65, it's literally a brand new opportunity. Would you say that's why neither of us have taken Shavkat Rachmaninoff? I'm also not sure he can make the weight. That's the other issue. Interesting stuff. All right. With the next pick,

I believe, let me say the pick is in the pick is it. Okay. We're got it. The pick is in guys. The pick is in with the next pick in the 165 pound draft. Your boy BC is going to go into the wallet and take out Luke.

How much money do you think I have in my wallet right now? Five bucks. I've got $1. $1. Money Moicano. Oh, Hanato Moicano. Okay, let's get an explanation for why you're taking him. I think he'll fit that middle of that weight class perfectly where he won't have to cut down as far as the jujits, the jujuts to handle himself in any area.

And I think he might be somebody with the added weight that has even more in the tank for five round fights. I still wonder if 55 is the best for him. I don't know because of the wrestling. I don't know how 65 is going to go for him. But he is ambitious. He wants the smoke. People like him. He could be a big name for that division.

There's some ways in which that could go well. He's rebrand. People like him. He could be a big name for that division. For some reason, it could go well. He's rebranded himself as a brawler, but yet that ground game is net. Who was just telling us that he – somebody I heard recently say – oh, no, it was Jorge Masvidal that told me that Moikano taps everybody at ATT. I mean everybody on the regular like that. He's a force in the gym in that regard. I can believe it. I think he's just kind of figuring out how good he can potentially be. My time is almost up here, so the pick is in.

With the fifth pick in the draft, I'm going to go Colby Chaos Covington. Oh, how dare you? Adding him to, I think he'd be a great addition to 65. I don't think. I think he's done, Luke. He's done. Colby Covington. How dare you adding him to, I think he'd be a great addition to 65. I think he's done. Luke.

No, Kobe Covington shit the bed at one 70 or now we're going to be one 75. If everyone's going to move to one 75, I actually think that's too big for him. I actually feel like he could have always made 65. I think he could actually make even lower than that. And you bring in veteran name. You bring in a guy who's going to talk a lot.

Him versus Poirier at 65 is a huge fight. You can make to build that division, dude, him versus Ian Gary. You can make that for's going to talk a lot. Him versus Poirier at 65 is a huge fight you can make to build that division. Dude, him versus Ian Gary, you can make that for the title to start it off. There's a lot you can do with Colby Covington being added to this division. Go ahead. Do you want to recap how many picks we're at? We're at five picks. You're going to be pick number six.

Okay, here we go. With the sixth pick. You got to tell them the pick is in. The pick is in. With the sixth pick in the 165 pound mock draft experiment your boy bc selects gilbert burns oh you stole mine you piece of trash uh luke you know we used to say how the hell did that guy ever make lightweight and even though he's put a couple losses together he's one of those 37 year olds who's i, still a threat in this game. Putting him in a new division, I think, could reset that in a lot of ways, Luke.

And I also expect him to continue in certain matchups to lean on the ground game more and more, a la the way Glover Teixeira was able to extend his game deeper into those 30s. I think Gilbert's instantly a top-five threat in that division. Very good. Okay, I already know who my next pick is going to be and this one is going to shock the system wow are you ready wow pick is in with the seventh pick in the mock draft here at morning combat i'm going to go with conor mcgregor can't go wrong with this one. If he wins, becomes the third champion, or I should say the person to win third weight class title.

Obviously, the weight is a perfect one for him. I actually think it brings him down just enough to make him disciplined to meet that weight. Dude, what can I tell you? Him versus Benoit Saint-Denis, that's not an action fight, that's an action fight. Him versus Poirier, you could do a fourth one of those fucking guys.

Moikano, you probably wouldn't do. Covington, you could. But you have so many good options. By the way, if they want to move Chandler up here as well, they could do that on top of it. Again, I think his time at 155 is probably over. 165, new lease on life. Give me Conor McGregor. Can you recap

the picks so far? Yes, let me write this down. So so far, here's who we have. We have Ian Gary, Benoit Saint-Denis, Dustin Poirier, Renato Moicano, Colby Covington, Gilbert Burns, and now Conor McGregor's your seventh pick. You, sir, have pick number eight. Okay, it's in. The pick is in, guys.

With the eighth pick in the draft, Mike Malat from Canada. Oh, okay, okay. That was a bit of a curveball, but I'll take it. Tell me why you're doing that. I mean, I know that he kind of fell apart and lost that Neil Magny fight in what was supposed to be a big setup and operation for him.

But I think that the run there, look, some of this is giving guys new life, right? In a new division with a new set of guys in there. I think he's big. We're moving up from lightweight is not going to be that issue. I'm sorry, he's already at welterweight. I'm just saying, look, we're asking these welterweights to cut five more pounds down. Or go to 175.

Sure, sure, in that regard. I want to see what this kid could look like at that weight. So excuse me, I'm thinking he was a lightweight there for a second. No, he is definitely not. Definitely a full-fledged welterweight. Definitely a full-fledged welterweight. Okay, in that case, and I'm, oh man, it's a good pick because you're also not killing the top. Right, we're not picking Armand Saroukian.

He's basically going to be fighting for the title soon. Yeah, so I'm not taking him. So, trying to think about who else now that I want to take because of who you picked. All right, I've got a pick. Pick us in. With the ninth pick in the MK Mock Draft, I'm going to take Hands of Steel, Jeff Neal, baby. Oh, wow.

Jeff Neal. See, the reason I didn't take him is because he's missed Welterweight three times. Oh, shitballs. Well, I can't take it back now. Fuck it. All right, there you go. I fucked that one up then.

Well, not necessarily. You can switch it out if you need to, Luke. You know what? We'll see how the draft looks at the end. So that would give you pick number 10, I believe, obviously, if you're ready to go or whenever you are ready to go. The pick is in, guys. Curveball effect from Brazil, Luke.

Okay. Gabriel Bonfim. Ooh, Gabriel Bonfim. Okay. You're going outside some of the traditional rankings here. Tell me why you took it. Well, I'm trying to fill out rankings in a new division without completely

looting it. And I know that his original rise was sort of muted of a late. So why don't we put them in a new division? Luke going to be an absolute submission threat as we know, but a new lease on life. Let's see if he can reinvent himself here. Okay. So with that being said,

I like the way you're picking these and I'm going to pick this one very strategically. It sounds like I'm not, but I trust me. I am. My pick is in 11th pick in the draft. Michael Chandler. I was just going to take Michael Chandler because he obviously doesn't have

a ton of time left. And this was made for him. This division was made for him. The guy walks around 190 plus. Yes, yes. He can easily make this weight. I think he would have some life left. He'd have some big bombs.

There's stuff you can do with him. Obviously, if you wanted to do the one against either Eaton Gary, you could do that one as well because they're kind of teammates, sort of. But also you could do it against Conor McGregor. You could do it against Colby Covey. I mean, there's a million different ways you can make that work. Also against dude, Michael Chandler versus a not so much Conor 165. Hell yeah.

I'll take that one. So there you go. Michael Chandler, you have the 12th pick in the draft, sir. With the 12th pick. The pick is now in Long Island style steam roller. I love that pick for a vola who could be a outside banger in this

division yes he could tell me why you picked him uh again sometimes it's just that same idea luke of getting a new set of potential opponents he came pretty far up the rankings in lightweight before leveling out he's in his 30s so we got to get after it now so let's get up there and let's not worry as much about that weight cut and let's come out throwing big luke all right okay all right now that makes it kind of tough for me because i'm not exactly sure where to go with this one how many we have left just three okay just three um i'm gonna this is a tough one this is a tough one. This is a tough one. I will go... Man.

Now we're getting to the meat and potatoes of this whole thing. I can take your pick from you, Luke. I can just take it. I've got so many names here. Do you think Rachmaninoff can make 65? He's soon for make 65? He's He's soon for the title He's soon for the

Welterweight title You can't pull him out I know you're right You're right Same thing with Sarukian Although I'm surprised You didn't go Sean Brady Or

Sean Brady's fucking huge He is huge He is huge He is huge You know what He probably can make it Or what about the Tarantula dude? Jalen Turner

I'm not trying to drain 55 too much I want to go back to 70 So we don't pull it out too much so i'll tell you what all right pick is in pick is in i actually think he can make it i don't know how great it's gonna go but i think he can do it future champion i'm gonna go mvp oh that was interesting i questioned if he could if he would want to I'm going to go MVP. Ooh, that was interesting. I questioned if he would want to cut down at this age,

but he's always on weight, though, right? I mean, he's always... I don't recall him ever meeting weight. He's skinny. It's just another five pounds. You have to feel like it's doable. It's a good pick. And he doesn't have to...

Look at what we built. There's some wrestlers in here, but there's kind of ways to avoid it as well and still have great action fights. Yes, yes. All right, so two left. Here we go. All right, the pick is already in.

This was going to be my number one pick. This was going to be my number one pick, but I thought you'd laugh at me, so I'll do it at the end. Who is this division made for? One man. One man that came that close to winning the UFC interim middleweight title at UFC 238

when I was wearing the orange shirt in the front row in Atlanta, right? Kelvin Gastelum. Yeah, baby. Yeah, baby. Dude, this fucking guy can barely make welterweight. Okay. Okay, Luke. Okay.

I think that we've always said to him when he goes up there, Luke, we've always said the idea. Oh, wait, no, you're right. I'm thinking the division gap is the wrong way. I got to pull that back. I got to pull that back. I'm sorry. Okay, I'll give you one do-over. Give me one. You're right. I had my weight. Do you want me

to take your pick and bolt so you want to trade back in the draft? No, I know who I'm ready. Here we go. Don't do the music again. Sorry, I screwed that one up. Patty Pimblitt. Oh! I actually did not see that coming. Tell me about about it i want to inject some flavor into here i mean is he going to climb the lightweight rankings luke is he going to be an attraction

fighter let's never worry about weight for him again he just had those babies congratulations probably going to put a little dad pouch on let's get back after we need we need some we need people to sell in this division too okay man that's a big one that's a big one all a big one. Man, I wanted Gastelum in this, but you're right. We're talking about middleweights as well. If it was 70-85, yeah, you could do it. I was confused. Yeah, because if it was 70, I mean, dude, also just think about it. If there's a 65 or a 75-pound division, he's going to go 75 every time.

Sure, sure, sure. All right, last pick in the draft. BC, as my consigliere, what would you recommend I take? I would probably need to take someone from 70. Not a wartime consigliere, though. To balance it out. What do you think? Do you think Brady can make 65?

I was thinking you should go Grant Dawson or Demiris Magulov. He's retired. He is retired? Okay. But Grant Dawson's not. We didn't take Fazeev or Gamrod. Are we leaving them in the lightweight rankings more or less? I think I'm leaving them in lightweight.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Gamrod, I more or less? I think I'm leaving them in lightweight. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Gamrod, I thought about, but I think I'm leaving him. Well, you can insert Justin Gaethje if you wanted to. Unless he's in the BMF. But this is the BMF sweet spot, right? Yeah, it is.

I mean, 165 is the BMF sweet spot in so many ways. Fuck it. You know what I like? Your pick is in. For the 15th pick in the MK 165-pound mock draft, I'm going to go the highlight, Justin Gaethje. Okay, BC, would you like a reading of how this would go? Here is our 165-pound division.

We can play with this order. This is just how they were drafted, all right? But your top 15 would look something like Ian Gary, Benoit St. Denis, Dustin Poirier, Renato Moicano, Colby Covington, Gilbert Burns, Conor McGregor, Mike Malott, which I actually like, by the way, Jeff Neal. That's a sketchy one. Gabriel Bonfim, Michael Chandler, Matt Frivola, MVP, Patty Pimblitt, and Justin Gaethje. Gotta tell you.

Gotta tell you. I love this division. First of all, it's a banger division in terms of the potential for action, but I did purposely put in some submission guys to try to round this out. Yes, and I got some older guys and some younger guys. We've got older, we've got young. I think the greatest thing is I don't think we depleted the top 10 in either one, right? Purposely. So here's how 55 would read absent those guys.

55 would still be Islam, Armin, Charles Oliveira, Gaethje would move over, Poirier would move over. This is in a post-Islam world. Mateusz would stay, Benil would stay, Chandler moves, Fazeev stays, Holloway stays, Renato Meccano moves, Hooker stays, Turner stays, Benoit moves, Dos Anjos stays, Bobbyv stays. Holloway stays. Hanato Makano moves. Hooker stays. Turner stays. Benoit moves. Dos Anjos stays.

Bobby Green stays. You do lose some big names, but these are guys I don't know how much they have left in the game because Gaethje, Chandler, Poirier, these are all 35 and up. Yeah. I just don't know how much. And at 170, you would have Leon still at the top, obviously. Kamaru would stay there. Bilal would stay there. Shavkat would stay there. Colby moves. By the way, I don't think still at the top, obviously. Kamaru would stay there. Bilal would stay there.

Shavkat would stay there. Colby moves. By the way, I don't think that's a problem at all. No. Jack de la Maddalena stays. So, Walter Wade's still super hot up top. And you know Dana's got bus fulls of new Dana White Contender Series people ready to plug in for 12-12 with Jason House managing them. Now, you do lose Gilbert and Ian Gary back-to-back.

But then you have Sean Brady, Stephen Thompson. You lose Jeff Neal, but that's a stupid pick. But you keep Joaquin Buckley, Neal Magny. You lose MVP, but you keep Luque, and you keep Kevin Holland. I got to tell you, I don't think these are terrible hits to any of those divisions, and 165 ends up being a gilet jang, let's bang each other kind of moment. We will bang each other. What is your vacant title fight in this division based on those names?

I would go Conor Chandler. I would go Conor Chandler. That's interesting. But neither guy would really deserve top three or four ranking, right? Probably not, no. Okay, actually, let me back up. So I would say winner of connor chandler the real one winner of that versus probably the winner of ian gary versus colby covington

imagine they did a final four which is exactly what they did when they launched the the flyweight men's division correct that's exactly that it was ian mccall benav, Demetrius Johnson. Who was the fourth? Urushitani. Wow, good poll right there. Yasuhiro Urushitani. Good poll right there. Let me just say this. The point of this exercise is people always ask, is there room for a 65-pound division?

Here is my answer, and this exercise kind of shows it. The answer is yes, BC, with a big asterisk, which is, I think you can do it if the UFC they can't come and say hey you 55 hey you 65 hey you 75 but what they can do is if they do have a guiding hand and being like okay how are you feeling let's see who can make weight let's see who can't you obviously have to sub out the Jeff Neal one but the point i'm trying to make is if it was a coordinated effort from the ufc could they do it without depleting their other divisions in a substantive way i actually think the answer is yes they could do it yes it would it would water down the depth a little bit but they had to give them credit on the dana white contender series as much

as we can joke about things they are plugging in new names on the regular these guys are quickly climbing the ladder and becoming, I mean, look at Steve Versailles right now. I mean, it's happening, even though I don't think he came through the contender series, but the whole point is like, they have been plugging in people of late that are making strides

instantly overnight. So, yeah, I mean, they're, they're an operation. They're a machine. Luke,

this could happen if you, if they wanted it, but they wanted it and they guided the process. It is absolutely doable. 100%. Interesting. Interesting. You want to throw around some shit now?

Did we have a Commander's level draft or did we have a Panther's level draft? What do you think, guys? What do you think? I think they're... Did we have a good draft or a bad draft? A good draft. Okay. Yeah, I mean, they're asleep, Luke.

Again, the dildo bong, I just don't know how this is appropriate. I'm going to tell Dan Levitard on you guys. This is the best use of Jake Von Amsterdam's art right now to have him just sitting there. I mean, just, just playing. He should be like, like drawing or doing something.

Yeah. All right. Uh, Hey, you know what I did yesterday, but please put the vigorously masturbated on me. Let him cook. Um,

I scoured the globe for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly and combat sports and beyond got most of the videos through the sensors here the sensors in that room over there nor had the north koreans in there uh this one's called have you seen that this have you seen why don't you fuck up the title of this hey have you seen this shit jesus christ could you fuck this up more have you seen this shit?

Jesus Christ, could you fuck this up more? Have you seen the shit in that bathroom that you left, Luke? I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, here we go. That was eons ago. KO of the week did not come from BKFC, UFC, Golden Boy Boxing, and all of that. It came from LFA 182. Get some of that, dude.

The best part was she threw this before, and it it landed and the other one didn't do anything. And then she's just like, you know what? You're not going to stop it. I'm just going to do it again. That is a tremendous KO. Hit her with a bop. You know what? In women's MMA, you don't see a lot of head kick knockouts.

You don't see a lot of knockouts, period. Much less like one hitter quitters like this. Luke, I'm not much of a car guy, as you know, and neither are you, by the way. But this one has the balls I'm looking for and actually the shaft as well. This is actually the bong they're smoking in the other room.

Wow. Dude, I'm going to just drive this thing to go do errands in D.C. Oh, the underside lights? Yeah, the grundle lights here to be let me ask a question let me ask a question what's the most offensive place you could drive this in your town like think about places like you could do this church parking lot no no actually to take that back elementary school parking lot would be a little bit worse right yeah wow okay there you go

hey let's go to knucklemania 4 from los angeles is that the pornography you watch we already saw conor mcgregor get announced but how about this throwback to the pre-fight presser which was wild by the way i did not see that here is mick terrell and lorenzo hunt who are fighting for the heavyweight title having a debate about who's bigger lorenzo says i remember watching a fight lorenzo put on he was six foot three he's not six foot three and then he now says he's six foot but like i don't even think he's six foot i mean if we want to measure this i've actually brought the tape measure lorenzo wants to take off his cuban heels if you want to measure something you want to take off your shoes and take them lifts out your shoes i paid about five ten five we can uh if you really want to take off your shoes and take them lifts off your shoes? I paid about five, ten, five. We can, if you really want to measure something, since you brought a ruler,

we can figure out who the heavyweight champ is. What the fuck are you talking about? I threw my name in the hat for the measure. This is much better than Kimbo and Dada accusing each other of having baby nuts. Yes. And then one of them having cardiac arrest. People say that this sport is homoerotic and then the fans get mad and I'm like, it's the most homoerotic sport. Okay.

But I think Francis Ngata wins this debate. There we go. All right. Let's keep based on things we've heard. Based on wild accusations. there we go all right let's keep based on the based on things we've heard based on based on wild accusations speaking of bear of uh knucklemania 4 the fight of the night without question former boxing brawler alfredo angulo dude what the fuck against jeremiah riggs and angulo made his debut he's in the black hair and he got taken to the woodshed for about 60 seconds

luke did you see this you are allowed i to collar tie. You're not allowed to grab his fucking hair. Oh, this was like a fight you'd see at the back of Applebee's, Luke. No, you've never seen a fight this good at the Applebee's. Oh my god, look at this. So Angulo getting his face caved in over here. By the way, Angulo has previously fought Canelo Alvarez. On a pay-per-view,

by the way, yes. He knocked down Erislandy Lara twice back when he was untouchable. Look, this dude is tough as shit balls look at this look at this dude the geico caveman i mean this was just not you think he's out keep watching keep watching angulo is tough in a way that you just are not look at this dude come come back. Look at him storming back. Oh, wow. I mean, this might be the greatest fight in BKFC history, seriously. It's like, this is the BK equivalent of...

Oh! Yeah, dude. This is the BKFC equivalent of Diaz versus Paul Daly. Yes, great, great fight. This is their equivalent. Because it's only, what, two-minute rounds in BKFC? Yeah. Like, they're short rounds, you know?

All right, we mentioned Todd Duffy had a heavyweight fight against Ben Rothwell. Didn't go great. It only lasted 43 seconds. Duffy got knocked down a second time on more of a push, claimed he had a shoulder stinger. And Luke, there was about 4,000 tweets comparing him to Bob Sapp. Did he take a dive? What happened here? So I've known Todd Duffy.

I don't think he's the kind of guy to take a dive. But I guess what I would say is somebody who likes and cares about him, if you're getting injured this easily in a fight. 40 seconds in? You know, and without what I would call significant contact, then I don't know if this is the thing to keep doing. Dan Marigliato was the referee. You think he's taken down like an ice cream stand out?

Dude, you think I'm blowing up the shitter. I mean, the shitters that he has does absolutely annihilate the big John in Tokyo. He ain't gulo. Yeah. All right. Let's go to Mike Perry.

He knocks out Tiago Alves in the main event in a very Alves. Well, you know, I grew up around Portuguese people. I can call them Alves. Brazilians close enough,

right? It was pretty close. Yeah. There you go. Portuguese. Mike had a great post fight. Ran very emotionally fueled.. Brazilians close enough, right? It was pretty close. Yeah, there you go. Mike had a great post-fight rant. Very emotionally fueled. Let's listen in.

That is 5-0 in the BKFC. You got that done very, very quickly, proving why you are the king of violence. There's a lot of folks out here tonight watching you. What do you got to say to them? My easiest fight yet, just like I said it would be,

I'm the undisputed king of bare knuckle. I'm number one pound for pound. Fuck anybody who thinks differently. I'm the king in this, bitch. Come and see me, bro. If you want the smoke, if you want the money, I want all the smoke and all the money. You can't beat me.

It's my money. Give me the bag. Let's go, David Feldman. Let's go, Marcus Seifert, Young L.A. Shout out to everybody that came through. All the fans. We in this, bitch. I've been screaming all night.

I've been waiting for this. It's life long. Come and see me, bro. I'll fuck you up in here. Mike. David Feldman's face after that. You don't mean me. Dude, I hope they get somebody to come.

I'm so proud of Mike. I'm so happy for him. He has found has found a lane, and he has owned it, and it has worked so well for him. Good for him. Well, did you ever get a song stuck in your head, and you just can't get it out, no matter if you like the song or not? Tukey loved Baby Shark for like a year. Yeah, so did Callum Walsh, but that was for different reasons.

It's fucking lame, though. Okay, sorry about that. Mike Perry talking with Helen Yee Sports after the win. He had a song stuck in his head. Ayo, yo, real talk. Ryan Garcia's I'm blessed, highly favored. I'm blessed, highly favored. That shit hard, bro.

And he went out there and beat an undefeated fighter. I'd like to see the Ryan Garcia versus Tank without the hydration clause. That'd be valid. Or I'll fight both of them at the same time what first walk-off interview thank you helen what a polite gentleman right there shots to mike perry so he's referencing the song that won't go away ryan garcia's victory lap song it goes away pretty easily i just don't listen to it it's catchy it is a little catchy okay i don't i don't think i'm blessed highly favored ryan had a victory lap tour that was all over the country.

Let's check in. He earned it. Here's King Rye showing off his hand speed. No, he's going to show it off to Donald Trump. But a lot of people in the messages are saying that's not Trump. That's the body double. What the hell are they talking about? I don't know.

Watch this. I don't know. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Let's see what you got, Bass Hands. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. Zoom. uh-oh let's see what you got bass hands yeah that's not trump no it's supposed to be there's a picture of them and it looks like

trump if he was 30 years younger did he have plastic plastic surgery or something? I don't think so. All right, a lot of people were like, that's definitely not him. Oh, hey, Long Island Luke, is that Captain Orange Man? Yeah, I don't... Also, he wears red ties, not blue ties. He always wore red.

Maybe it's like an impersonator. So is he in fucking New York because he has all of his court case shit going on? Dude, Ryan's all over the country right now. In fact, he caught up, Luke, with Donald Trump's favorite fighter. Then it's here. So then I can go.

Okay. You would not expect it. So it's either head or, which one do you want? I don't know. Shoot. Or it's, shoot. And then if I see you leaning back,

lean back. It's, shoot. So you're jumping into it. Are you rotating the lever so now your head is covered dude they went and just had drinks after this and got obliterated he remembers none of this yeah but next time jorge pulls up on him like at the buffet line or or whatever

colby the new 165 it wasn't that jorge uh hit on him like at the buffet line or or whatever colby the new 165 it wasn't that jorge uh hit him he allegedly hit him who's not was the buffet line and and the other point is is like dude he stole on him like he wasn't looking like he was a sucker punch yeah you know also like i will i will laugh though if colby wins his next fight via left hook i'll have to eat some more crow well king rye went from new york miami to boulder thank you for letting me join the team i appreciate you oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no I'm a lefty now. I'm a lefty. You're lefty? You're lefty. Oh, no, I don't do it. That's what you said. So that's it. That's it.

I like it. Do you want to keep the angle on? Tell him off! Tell him off! Dude, this is like, say what you will about Ryan Garcia. He's cashing in on this. He's doing what Bud Crawford did after he won. And just kind of rubbing elbows with people he normally doesn't rub elbows with.

Which is what boxing in the 90s. Remember when Riddick Bowe won? He's suddenly going around to all the heads of state all around the world and everything uh then ryan took his girlfriend of the more i say girlfriend of the moment because there's a tmz article a couple days ago that ryan has two major girlfriends at the moment one of them he took to the jewelry store that's crazy this is the the best ring you could possibly get get it in the uh in the world in the whole world how much is the room uh the total cost is a 1.5 million and a little change is this 63 500 there you go okay i'm gonna call on that there's other videos where she's wearing it and he's like no

no not that he didn't pay a million five or that he bought it for her i'm not saying that Okay, I'm going to call bullshit on that. There's other videos where she's wearing it and he's like. No, no, no. Not that he didn't pay a million five or that he bought it for her. I'm not saying that. But dude, my first job out of college, I worked security at Cartier. I've transported a pen that was a million dollars. I am certain you can buy a ring for more than one five anywhere. I don't think so. But he just bought that for a girl that he might not even be exclusively dating.

I know. But the lady is like, oh, this is the most expensive ring in the world. No, it's not. Oh, I got you. No, it's not. Yeah, yeah. So that's interesting, Luke. Friends with benefits, right? That's a big benefit. Here's what I don't get about Ryan Garcia. It's like, dude, he could probably pull women like that without having to spend the one five. Well, let's hear his philosophy on this. Hey, baby, I'm going to be real with you. I'm not going to be that perfect boyfriend. That is impossible for me at this point in my life. You know, I want to be honest with you.

Like, I'm probably going to talk to girls. I don't know if I'm going to fuck them. I might. I might not. I will tell you. We can negotiate on how that looks. You know what I mean? Stuff like that.

She'd be like, okay, but just use a condom. I said, oh, of course. And if I don't, I'll tell you. And, like, we'll be communic use a condom. I said, oh, of course. And if I don't, I'll tell you and we'll be communicative and I'll always make sure that I'm clean and I won't have no diseases and we'll be straight. And look it, maybe down the line. Can I just? Wait, wait, wait. Maybe down the line, maybe I am that guy.

Maybe I'm that guy. Maybe I am. Maybe I will be. But until then, I'll let you know. And when I know, I'll know. I love you, baby. Maybe I'm that guy. Maybe I am. Maybe I will be, but until then I'll let you know. And when I know, I'll know. I love you, baby.

If you don't want this, do you know how much leverage you have to have to have that kind of conversation with another woman? Oh my God. Well, she has 1.5 million reasons not to care apparently with that beautiful ring, but wow. He's never, I've never had that.

Listen, I'm going to be clean. I won't have diseases. I'm going to go fuck the girls. I'm going to, I'm going to go fuck the world. I'm going to go fuck the world. Okay. And then if you don't like it, that's too bad.

And if you do, be along for the ride. King Rye is living the life. Let's go to the UFC Apex card that no one watched, Luke. Let's fresh off completing the tour of Taffa. Austin Lane got sent to hell by Johanada Denise. Is that how you say that? Yeah, Johanada. Yeah, I'm not sure.

I mean, Austin Lane, he's a good athlete, got some big power. Former NFL player. Very hittable, yeah. Yeah, Greg Hardy took him. Look at this. Just bleed, baby. Look at this. Just clothe yourself.

All right, you mentioned David Onama and Jonathan Pierce did their best Holloway-Gaethje impersonation. This is the final 10 seconds. I tried to explain to people. It's like, guys, if they're going to fight like this when, by the way, Onama missed weight, so not even eligible fight like this, when, by the way, uh, Oh, not a Nama missed weight. So not even eligible for a bonus and still fighting this way.

It's like, guys, they're going to fight this way. Whether there's 300 K bonus on the line or not. This is my point. No, you were wrong on that. It brought up the energy and the people going after it.

You were wrong. You just got to take the L. Let me just ask. People want me to take the Ryan Garcia L. I'll take the, I picked against him. I won't take the other L. You should take this L.

There is no L. Dude, what is the evidence for it? What is the evidence for it? I keep asking, what is the evidence for it? And no one can tell me what it is. That incredible card that overachieved, even though it was so deep, it was incredible. Yes, the card was great. It was mostly Max and Justin. Max has fought that way previously anyway. Yeah, but it was

Prochazka. It was Money Moicano. These are action fighters who do this no matter what. Okay, okay. These are action fighters who do this no matter what. These are action fighters who do this. There is no evidence that it actually changed the way people fought. People want to imagine that there is because they've told themselves there is, but there isn't any. The evidence was the fight card.

There is no evidence. Well, Luke, you don't believe in a lot of things that you can't find evidence for. That's right. That's true. 100% that is true. The co-main event brought Bogdan Guskov sending Ryan Spann to hell for his third straight defeat. Someone said after this that Anthony Smith was 3-0 now against Spann. Oh, God. So that's that.

Hey, want to see a good Scorpion? Sorry for Ryan Spann. Tough loss. Three in a row right there. Here's your Scorpion of the week, Luke. We haven't seen these in a while. This guy probably deserves it. What the fuck are these called? Your Scorpion of the week? These device seen these in a while. What the fuck are these called?

Your scorpion of the week? The device this guy's on? What the fuck was that? The way that he just concussed himself and probably will never walk again. But look at this. I gotta tell you, dude. People signing up for Darwin Awards. I'm all about it. Oh, yeah. Alright. Hockey jersey of the week. You know this guy

from Eastern Europe? Suck me off. Number 69? Yes, exactly there. That great Kings defenseman. Wow. That's fantastic. My MVP for the season. We mentioned Golden Boy boxing had a hell of a card on Saturday from Fresno. This is Virgil Ortiz

Jr. in the main event against veteran Thomas Delorme. The guy who's going to be fighting Tim Zoo. So look, Delorme is in the second half of his career up in weight, but for Virgil Ortiz to only have 33 seconds of ring time in the last three years, to come out and blow this guy away and prove to 21-0 with 21 KOs,

and afterwards say, I don't care if the time is right for the Tim Zhu fight, I want to fight the best in the world. I can't wait for that fight. Hell yeah, Virgil Ortiz Jr. Cannot wait to see. And you want to see tim zoo's reaction to him getting the win let's listen let's get it on that's me after taco bell dude that is going to

be a war of two elite fighters but they are going to go after it i can't wait that is going to be a hell of a fight all right couple more to round out here luke let's go to i don't know is this mardi gras what do we got going on oh my god wait what am i missing that's a red bull can thrown from the rooftops and it hit a chick right in the face luke man i've seen some on bourbon street just like this. Shout out to at Scumbag Academy for this video. Is this the Dana White School for the media? I don't know what city that is.

Yeah, seriously. That's wild, though. Damn. Your haircut of the week. Have you ever asked for the volcano head treatment? Man, if you got a fucking science experiment as a haircut. There's the Mentos in the volcano there we go and that's me luke after uh checking out the strawweight rankings i'm kidding men's

strawweight obviously i'm wait who's number one yeah there you go uh luke anthony joshua was in the gym working on his kickboxing skills? What do you make of this? First of all, lionizing, or I should say rather not lionizing, but celebrating the history of Sparta is historically weird. But that aside, I can see why he boxed Ngannou

and didn't fight him in MMA. Oh, you don't think he's setting up for a PFL rematch against Ngannou in the smart cage? No? Okay, okay. Enter the smart cage. Yes. Luke, finally, the sequel to Tiger Thick Whiskey is here. If you're listening at home, there is a bottle of something here from uh i don't know if it's

some some asian country and it's called magical penis wine yeah that is uh wow that's what they were having at that uh bkfc press it'll give you a ozempic face i hear that's something right there all right one more some kind of o-face uh this wasn't your fight of the week but it did break out in the midst of this interview check this out so what is the craziest thing that's happened to you ever oh well if you want to get me ever college whatever just hit me with it so i went to tulane for halloween weekend um dude i want to hear what happened at Tulane that weekend. What do you think? Dude, they get busy.

Two chicks at one time? They get busy at Tulane. Wow, they just did right there, that guy. They get busy at Tulane. My dad went to Tulane for a semester. Oh, yeah. Hated it. Okay.

Where did he attend college? He ultimately went to St. John's in Annapolis, which is where this is, this is true. The textbooks at St. John's are literally the original texts of the things you're studying. So for example, if you were to study geometry, you would read Euclid.

If you were studying Aristotle, you would read all of his direct texts. You would not read anyone else's interpretation of it. That explains how formal you are and rigid. It does a little bit. Yeah, there it is. That's your shit of the week. I hope you saw my feces. Hey, what an episode, right? We did a lot.

They make us hurry in here because we have to switch out for old Pablo Torres. He's going to find out in this chair right here. I crossed paths with him. You're going to find out I've been crop dusted for two and a half hours. That's what he's going to find out. Oh, that's so good. He's like, why does this room smell like bologna and sadness? Well, thank you to Bellark. Thank you to Giraffe Kings. Thank you. He's like, why does this room smell like bologna and sadness? Well, LT was in here.

Thank you to DraftKings. Thank you to our folks behind the glass, Long Island Luke, Ken. Who else back there? Jake von Amsterdam. There's another dude back there. What's that guy's name? I forgot. You know, for a show where we didn't have the budget we had before,

we already have people lounging. Well, can I say Molkastop? Yeah. Reminder folks. And by the way, their kitchen, that's like from the future. That machine, that water machine. You're just not used to working in a modern office. No, I'm not.

I can put caffeine in my water. It's great. That's why I've been drinking this whole time, Luke. Coach Craig Jones would love this. No ditty. Luke, I want to remind the folks out there that this week we will be on the ground. Canelo versus Munguia in Las Vegas. We fly out Wednesday and then we'll be there for

he'll be there the remainder of the week. I'll be back a little bit early, but we'll have coverage nonstop. PBC on Prime Video pay-per-view. It's going to be a big one. We will be there Thursday for a live, we'll shoot the times on social media, but on the Morning Combat YouTube channel on Thursday, a live Radio Row interview special. Maniche, our old

producer, will be with us on the road. Yes, we're having one of our stalwarts of our bomb shelter series of the shows. He'll be joining us in Vegas to help us do that. Thursday night we'll be recording a Room Service Diaries 1.0. When will that go live? Later? Probably on Sunday. Okay. And then

Friday, you know what time our live show begins from? The Blue Wire Studios. I think it's the same. I think it's going to be 11 a.m. So this Friday, folks, 11 a.m. in the East, 8 a.m. Pacific time. We will be live on the Morning Combat channel with a live episode. Canelo versus Munguia. Special guests. Guests.

By the way, we'll preview UFC 301 as well. We'll have some fun with it. Sure, sure. It will be a great show, but this is the beginning. It's not going to be every Friday for now, but we told you, we are building toward it. We thought it was going to be built in a day. It wasn't built in a day. Rome is not built in a day.

It's going to take time, but we're getting there. Thank you for following us. We will get fan subs going because people are sharing what they want to send in fan subs to me, and I'm like, that's just brilliant stuff. Maybe we can bring it back on Friday. We'll see. It's possible. So if we put the word out now for people to email

the show at morningcombat at gmail.com, and if you begin to send in your fan subs this Friday, you want to commit to it? I would love to do it. If we get enough of them, tell you what, if we get enough fan subs, we'll do fan subs on Friday. Okay, there's the bird call out to you. Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

Remember that from above the rim? When Tupac, they called him bird birdie i dislike you all right i gotta pee really bad like i bet you've been like a house like a racehorse that hasn't been put down here's the reminder morning combat that story you can use the promo code live 10 you can follow us on all the social graphics i think they already put that up yeah why don't you get 10 off tell rj we said tell rj dunkel gang fuck that we sent you and uh we are done for the day so that's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas.

Thanks to everyone. Again, one more reminder. We have two more MKs coming just this week. Tons of stuff. Be on the lookout. We love you. BC, LT, this has been MK. And until next time, may all of your gains be loyal.