MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Crawford Makes History vs. Canelo | Netflix Boxing Grades + Noche UFC Recap

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

The boys are back from Las Vegas and ready to discuss all things from Crawford's win over Canelo. Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell examine all angles from the Fight of the Year and give their perspective on what went down. Also the fellas discuss the second-ever Noche UFC event took place in San Antonio. The guys break down the main event between Diego Lopes and Jean Silva, plus the rest of the Noche UFC card.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are both relatively fresh off the bird from Las Vegas, and you better believe today's episode of Morning Combat will be heavy on all things. Crawford, Canello, notice you've got to switch those names now. Nalche UFC, and we'll take your... DMs will pick through my she at. But Luke, we're back. I haven't been home yet in a week, but that's part of, you know, that's part of the grind.

That's the deal. Dude, I have to say this, first and foremost. They didn't get everything right this past week in this giant Netflix super fight. Terence Crawford got it all right, but all the parties got it right for that main event on Saturday night. Being in that dome with 70,000 plus, I know it was kind of random to have half of tool come out for a drum solo, but like... Yeah, I didn't quite get that.

But like, that was... The adrenaline was pumping. That was pretty damn awesome. I have to give them that moment. It all built up to that. It took a while to get there. But that main event moment, because we were in the media,

not on the floor. We were way back, but we were in the stadium. And it was magical to be in there for that. I got to say, I mean, this is why I don't understand the UFC's reluctance

to do stadium shows because they're a challenge. No one denies that they're not a challenge and that they're different and that you wouldn't want to do them very often. But to the point you raised, B.C., sometimes the big fights need the right atmosphere.

Especially, I'll say this, because Canello's last fight was in Saudi Arabia full of 5,000 people, and it was such a letdown. This did not feel like that at all, at least by the time the main event started. So I got to say, we'll talk about the broadcast, but I am very glad they put it in Allegiant, and for the most part, it looked beautiful on Netflix. It didn't feel like a super huge fight week for most of the fight week. It did not. Until Friday.

I think a lot of that is that late arriving Mexican crowd comes in. You know, you got to give Canello that credit. I mean, he's the superstar for a real. That dome was full It wasn't all Canello fans It was about 85%. It was you know You could hear the minority

Of Crawford fans But like people were jazzed up To be part of this sort of Cultural event However big this fight will turn out To be ratings wise and all that And obviously legacy wise For Crawford we'll get into that

It was monumental But I do tip the cap to those involved Even if some of those are Our boy H.E. And some of the other Hey did you see Rick Reno Dressed like a pimp? Yeah you'll see him

And have you seen this shit Yeah, I mean, you say nice things about him and he seems to be a decent person. Does he think he's cool? I don't know, I ran into him. We had a weird half-hour conversation. I get along with Rick, I've known him for, you know, if you're in the boxing media, you know Rick forever.

He seems like a nice guy. We don't have anything bad to say, but he seems to think he's a pimp. No, I think he's just leaning heavily into the gimmick. I think, I've heard from people that Turkey loves the whole, gave him the Versace nickname, loves that he's just leaning into it? So he's just leaning aggressively into it? He looks like a nine-year-old whose dad dressed him for Halloween as a pimp. Yeah, I told him.

him he's turned into like evil Bobby the Brain Heiden and he kind of laughed and was like yeah that's the wrestling manager yeah yeah yeah who was evil to begin with but whatever enough of that BS LT you're um did you streamed over the weekend I did I did a two hour stream for Noche which was that main of that card was

fine it was good even but the main event was a hit of the crack pipe I gotta be honest the main event was balls out in sand it was amazing so I really enjoyed that and we did a long broadcast obviously for the Canella fight because that we'll talk about it later that Netflix card they had booked for what 42 rounds and you got 42 fucking rounds man and then there's

all these other pieces that went into the production that just made it here here is my basic rule tell me if you disagree okay too much mark walberg no a lot of mark a lot of watching board mark walberg which i did not enjoy no your main event needs to start before the four even i would argue three hour mark of your start of your broadcast one a m eastern time's not ideal for the main event i didn't like that yeah well you know we'll get into all of that uh let's talk about our the third member of our team here or maybe we'll even talk to him he's a uh long enthusiast of course and a streamer himself live and direct from the uh undercarriage of an australian it's uh luke no seat of the main card

minute hey luke what up boys how was your weekend are we having stream issues yeah something's buffering back here we got the engineers working on it buffering more like michael or uh bruce it's definitely more of a bruce vibe back here you know by the way long outlook did you see bruce and G.N. Lord Silva go like Yes. They were almost effing without touching each other, right? He did the same thing with his girlfriend before he had like a Yeah, that was creepy, yeah. Tensea Staredown. Did you

they're matching out outfits too? Yeah, did You can tell he's a close talker at parties and I don't like people like that You know. For sure. That's how we warm up for every show though. People don't know that about us, all right? They're like why did you guys just bang? We almost did, all right? Are people watching this show live right now? Are we talking to ourselves? Yeah, you know,

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dot shop there are evergreen products that'll be here forever you can mix and match the colors outfit yours okay i mean it's going to be holiday season coming up right did you pound one out in the hotel yesterday this is what what are we what like luckily we're having streaming issues but uh wow okay thank you johnny sin uh there you go uh i think it's sins by the many Plurral. N.W. Jiz, when he met as a kid, indeed. Along on Luke, are we live yet, or are we still? I see the brain trust out there.

They're great. You know, we got people on the phone. We're working on it. Where's Ken and Adir when we need them, all right? High is balls. Yes, yes, they are. All right, all right. So I guess we're going to just sit here and circle around the bowl for a minute.

Luke, did you have any travel issues or were you okay? I had to switch flights on Friday. to some programming stuff so then my flight home was I didn't have a direct I had to have it layover in Dallas and there was a dude behind me like right behind me on the flight to from Las Vegas

and you never do layovers right I hate layovers but I mean I'll do them when I have to which I had to in this case so the flight from Las Vegas to Dallas there was a guy behind me and he was like are you Luke Thomas and I was like yes but he he like bumped me like like tapped me right when you know the stewardesses are doing the

like the dropping of the bag and she actually goes excuse me sir and I'm like yeah she goes and she didn't even say what she goes a hum like this and I go and I look at it and I go and I go and you're like bitch she's like we're talking and I was like lady do you think I didn't say this but in my head I was like lady do you think I give a fuck if you live or die much less if you're talking I've been on 8000 flights I know what the fuck to do in the event of an emergency shut your mouth. Wow. I didn't say that.

I was very respectful. And then on the next flight home, I'm waiting. We're the only flight at in National Airport. Yeah. And we're waiting for the bags to come through. And I finally pick up my bags and I'm leaving. And some guy taps me on the shoulder. He's got big ass cauliflower ears.

And he goes, love your work, bro. And I was like, shit, what the fuck is happening here? Okay. So we waited, I had to wait for my Uber. This was easily two in the morning. And your Uber driver knew you? No. My Uber driver also did not care if I lived.

based on the way he was driving but uh we talked for a good long while he was a black belt out of like stafford virginia and he was uh he was a good dude does he know ryan uh what's his name ryan hall yeah he might i mean i don't know i mean oh no he knew another guy that we know shouts to a high noon bjj in virgin alexandria virginia virginia i believe um tim dawson is the coach out there he knew tim dawson so all right yeah cool stuff how come they're not called senseis in uh in j j j j j juzuzud's um probably because it's brazilian and they didn't import the tradition? I don't know. Yeah, but didn't they? They call them professor, whatever the Portuguese term is for professor. Oh, right, because our boy, Chef Cass from Las Vegas is

a professor, uh, vigilante. That's right. And they call the schools academies. And his capoeira. Yeah, they call them academies. Would you ever do capoeira? You have to be athletic to do capoeira. And I, I have trouble getting out of bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Um, I'm really lamenting the fact that I have to bring this giant suitcase on the subway with me. Why did you just burn it? Just leave it here and throw it away or burn it. There's nothing in there of value. You know that, right? A lot of used clothing in there. That's about it.

Gently used clothing. Very gently used. Long Island, Luke, we're just, you know, we're just hanging right now. We're literally just floating in the ether. We're building a mystery, McLaughlin style. In the event that you did pound one out of the hotel, what would it be, too? Wow.

Disclosure starring Demi Moore and Michael Douglas. No, um... Do we want to just get started? I don't know what we want to do here. I think we're good, guys. All right, we're going to have a show after all. There we go. We're back at it. Let's do it.

Give them a second to get ready to do the... To recalibrate here. Let's get our professional faces back on and put the camera on me. Topic number one, here we go. It happened in Las Vegas. It was the super fight. The undisputed super middleweight championship on the line as Terrence Crawford moving up. Officially two-weight divisions, three, if you want to go back just two years ago,

when a unified welterweight titles against Errol Spence in a breakthrough performance. Well, put that one in the rear. view because we've got another one that's even bigger. Terrence Crawford did the thing, a unanimous decision win over Canelo Alvarez. It was on Netflix, the first combat sports event inside Allegiance Stadium. He had UFC working with Turkey, a lot to get into on this, and we will systematically. But, Luke, we know Terrence Crawford scored the big victory, becoming the first mailboxer to be undisputed now in three-weight divisions, just two weeks out from his 38th birthday.

beyond the context of Crawford's victory, what can we say about why or how he was able to get the job done and what can we say about really what it means to be able to get this win to reach this significant milestone because he was so late getting the flowers that we knew his greatness could produce because he was so late in his career to get these matchups. But to now line up, Spence, Modramov, and Canelo,

five division champion. Dude, he is he. Sorry, He, He, sorry, He, sorry, Turk. H.E., now, HIMS.com. Terrence Crawford, bro. I don't know what the question was there. Do you start that one over again? Wow.

How did we get here? You know, how did he do it when, you know, to get all serious, the real narrative was the size difference. There was no size difference. So it came down to skill. How in your eyes was Terence Crawford able to pull off something that I just didn't see it happening this easily. Well, I do think there still was something of a size difference in the sense that it looked to me like Crawford's punches landed and had effect, but were not especially pronounced at this weight class relative to the durability of Cannella.

It looked like he lost a little something moving up in that sense. However, BC, he took whatever punches that were scored pretty well. But the answer to the question, BC, is I watched it in real time and I like doing those watchalong. but if I can be honest, I miss something along the way. I can't quite absorb the fight in its true sense as a consequence. So I've gone back and rewatched it in preparation for some additional content. And, dude, this was, this was magisterial from Terrence. Brilliant.

I think the first thing I want to say is, number one, the defensive effort from Bud was extraordinary. In close range for shots. that Canello normally lands just shutting down every door of opportunity. Dude, he got hit less in this fight than he did in the Madramal fight, considerably so. And including in ways where even if it was like a numerically the same amount, it was demonstrably in terms of how they moved him much less. But let's talk about the effort, BC. First of all, he comes out in South Paul.

Why was this so relevant? Because it would shut down the jab hand of Canelo. Canello, not a huge jabber, but he is a pretty consistent one. I went back and I looked at the numbers, BC, for his fight. with Berlanga versus this one, what is the most amount of jabs Canello landed in any round in this fight? The most. He never got

more than this, and in fact, he only got it once. What's the most? Nine. Three. Three jabs is the most he ever got. That's what a Southpaw stance if you can control the terms does. That's right. He had to go to the right to the body as essentially his jab just to stay punch

numbers-wise in that fight. That's right. So he was able to shut down, or to bear minimum, very much minimize the jab hand. And so, as a consequence, you know that most of the attacks are going to come, either on that left hook that he was ready for or that right hand. And he had just the right defense every time. BC, the lateral movement and the turning of Camelo. He never got stuck in the corner. He never got stuck on the ropes. He was constantly, how many times did you see Canello leave his feet to try and find Crawford with a punch? Because the guy is constantly circling out, which of course is a

function of many things, including but not limited to lead outside foot position, which he was very, very good at maintaining. And then also BC, his ability to adapt on the fly, you'll notice a lot of times what he tries to do is find an answer for that hook to the body. And at first he would catch it and then shoot. But then later he realized, I'm just going to catch and then go with the left, the left hand, which Condella is not ready for, and then follow up with the swivel jab on the other side. So he's making, they knew he was going to go to it. They made him reach for it. His positioning was perfect. His choice of stance was exactly ideal. So his offense to me was not overwhelming. I don't think you can look at this fight and say, wow, he really beat the

shit out of Canelo. He outboxed Canello, but his offense was potent enough, particularly with those flurries, boxing and combination. Again, Canello can really never get out of first or second gear for the most part. Dude, we use this word a lot and I feel like it's lost some of the values. you as a consequence of its ubiquity but this was a masterclass dude this was one guy with outrageous skill offensively and defensively simply making another very good fighter look lesser than and what i love about it even more i do agree it was a master class i do agree it was absolutely brilliant but he met real opposition here like i'm actually a little offended to how much people are sort of dumping on canello and we'll get a little bit deeper into canella after

this, but, like, Canello, like, bought the best he could against a guy who came out in Southpile never was forced out of it and, you know, had success in the middle rounds. You know what the most impressive thing here for Crawford is that the middle round surge came from Canello, where he started to figure out how to hit him with the lead right hand, and he started to actually figure out how to set up combinations that would end with the right cross, and he connected on a few of those, and Bud went nowhere, and Bud adjusted out of that. And so it wasn't just butt outboxed him. And by the way, it was crazy that he looked the same side.

or bigger at times in the ring with him. But it was that when it was time to fight, Bud dug in and was out fighting him. And a lot of that was this incredible inside defense. A lot of that was the speed advantage so he could pick up on the right cross-coming encounter with that left hand. But I didn't necessarily know he was going to stand in there,

even though we know he put on the added weight, even though he did it systematically over two years, even though they've been, they set a lot coming into this fight. When we knew at some point this fight would turn into a fight, I could not believe how much Bud was able to control the terms of that infighting. You know what I mean? Took the shots that he had to and were able to turn it around.

And I know sometimes when one guy is just blowing you away at what he's doing, it can be easy to feel like, you know, oh, he must be winning 10 rounds to 2 or something. He wasn't. This was a close fight. Canello outlanded him in six of the rounds. Like there was a lot that made this close. I think entering the championship rounds,

a lot of us, including the three judges, had it relatively close. But it was the way that Bud closed the show in the championship rounds that left no doubt, did not open up the door for a backdoor robbery, even though two of the judges had it seven rounds to five and not everybody loved it. I had at 8-4, which is I predicted Canello would win 8-4.

Turns out Bud did it on the flip. But to meet Canello's rally head-on and then to close as the stronger fighter to the point where Conello almost looked, not resigned with losing, but at the end it was sort of like, what else could I have done? I'm not sure what else he could have done.

The most incredible part of this on top of all the history, Bud made on top of how much he just blew us away, was that he's two weeks out from his 38th birthday and he made this look easy. Luke, is this actually the prime of Bud Crawford right now? I mean, it's hard to say because when he was in his quote-unquote physical prime, he wasn't getting the type of opponents that could really show us.

But you hear the great ones say that you need a great one across from you to bring out your greatness. That's why I don't want people to dunk on Canello here. He gave the best of what 35-year-old Canello could 20 years into his career. But that best brought an even deeper level of greatness. out of Bud. Basically a 38-year-old Bud might be doing the best work of his Hall of Fame career right now. That's not crazy to say.

It's not crazy to say. I think that I don't know where he is physically in terms of his prime. Although, as we mentioned, he was certainly ready for the physical challenges at 68. But I think what I would say, BC, is maybe in terms of the technical challenge, he's clearly a step ahead of his contemporaries. Like, dude, you know what really blows my mind about Bud? he got hit a few times, as you mentioned, particularly in that round five. That was the first, like, I thought pretty decent round for Canello, you know?

Although I thought some of the early rounds were close to the point where I thought Vegas could whore bud, and in fact, that did happen a little bit along the way. I did see that, like, Skipper Kelp, who was the on-screen scorer and Dan Rayfield, both had Canello up four-nothing, which I had- No, no, no, Skipper had, uh, Oh, he had bought up for, okay, I saw it, like, some people had, it was a little while, but I guess, doesn't that speak to, it was close early on? It was, it was tactical, yes, it was certainly, it was certainly, it was certainly, close and tactical upon review it's pretty clear to me that bud won them i had but up three one at

that point but in real time dude canello just has this way of snake charming the judges and i think there was something to be said for that although by the time the 12th round finished it was like there's no question i did you score just so we know i think i also had it eight four as well for bud and maybe you know i could even i'm i could even go nine three and there could be eight fours and nine threes that look more dominant yes this was a competitive fight until it kind of wasn't i think bivall beat canello nine three seven five on all three and my five on all three and Is that right? Even though visually we saw it.

I think I had that one, nine three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in part because Bivol did beat Canello up a little bit. On the ropes, too, just beat him up. Which is, which is something that you never really saw Bud do. One of the questions Sean Porter asked was, could Bud really back him up? There were times he could do it, but it, Bud didn't win this fight by force. Bud, Bud basically meant Canello, he made him go wide.

Did you notice that? Yeah. He had to go wide on the hooks and then wide with the overhand. And he kind of kept the inside. had space and then use that to flurry, back them up, score a hook and turn, right, all the things you would need to do. And it, Canello, to your point, I think it, right after round nine, it looked to me like, I think Conno had a decent round 10 or 11. But basically after round nine, he just looked at that and was like, I don't have any other answers. I think 10 was the only

one I gave him out of the final four. I definitely gave Bud the last two as it all three judges. I think it was really, so I think the fifth round was Conello's big comeback. Yes. But there was a moment in the sixth where the, the, the, the back of the, and forth exchanging in the middle of ring started to happen. And if you notice, Crawford landed a big punch, his biggest of the fight. And he followed it up with like an eight punch combination. It was as if the window was there to go for it. And even though it didn't lead to a knockdown, didn't lead to a knockout, I wonder

if the psychological edge changed right there, where Conella was like, I cannot back this guy up. I cannot keep this guy off. But do there are, you know what I love about watching Bud Crawford fights, man, is when you go through him a second time or third time or whatever is how many little details. So one of the things that really caught my attention was where he puts his gloves. There are times he'll cover half of his face, then there's times it's a quarter face, then there's times where his hand fully covers his ear, and he seems to know exactly where he needs to put it,

not just because he's anticipating what Canello's going to throw, but because he's also on the move and he has to sort of be reactive. He had precise details like that. He would wait for Canello's overhand and step past it and then pop him on the counter, which is like so hard to do. that one video that keeps going around of that duck and left-hand cross. Yes, he gets, exactly. Where Canello's chin just like, holy shit. I think Canelo was, because, dude, this was the other part.

I've never, I've seen Canello reach a lot, but I've never seen Canello reach this much ineffectively, where he has to bring his back foot with him in order to find the guy with his back arm and still missing as a consequence. So Bud was able to kind of, with that lead hand fighting, he's establishing distance he's shutting down the jab he's helping himself turn and he's occupying the rhythm and changing the rhythm so that he can't get started and it made canello desperate which then bud feasted on after that this is what to me i know they're mama fans listen if you like only boxing cool if you like both mhm and boxing like we do cool and if you like both and disgusting pornography like you then that's even better that's the top that's the top tier but if you also just like boxing and ms not for you i also get it like it's no big deal But the people who watch MMA and then try to watch boxing through an MMA lens,

I don't know what to tell you. You sound a little dumb, and irrespective of that, you're actually missing the point. There is very little in MMA. It happens. It can happen. But the kind of specific details and the depth of the technical ability in general, and especially in this fight, far surpasses even what you can get at the high. highest level of MMA because they don't have that level of skill. They've got a wider skill set,

but they don't have a specific skill set to that degree. And the little tiny details, what I'm going to try to explain to you, donks, is it calls upon something else within your fandom. Do we love a hit of the crack pipe, B.C.? Lord knows we get Hunter Biden when Jayon Silva and Diego Lopez are killing each other. Freaking love it. But it calls upon something different when you watch somebody who is a fucking master craftsman, there is no equivalent in MMA to Bud Crawford because there cannot be. Sometimes there's technical thrillers, but then, you know, people like to think it didn't happen and it was boring as shit.

This was the highest level of skill. I mean, to be fair, that left cross tank hit, I'm sorry, not tank. That bud hit on Canello, that probably drops or knocks out every other fighter. Canello's chin being that absurd to move with that. We'll talk about Kellerman's broadcasting performance, but one thing he definitely did get right was he was saying that punch. punch was destroying Errol Spence, where he was catching him with his own left coming in off the jab. And it's true. And on the flip side, when we talk about the little things, I felt like

in the first half of the fight, Crawford was willing to give up the body to a murderous body puncher. Now, to be fair, Crawford's movement didn't allow Canelo to like really sit down and set up the left hook. So when he really gets people hurt and gets them out of there, like he did to Rocky Fielding, where he just brutalized the body. But I almost felt like Crawford had to no-sell any body attack in order to be able to stay close enough to get off his offense. And it was brilliant. He had the high guard so locked up working from Southpaw, so it took away Canello's jab, as you mentioned.

Canello really had to rely on either a lead right that he would slip in up high or just tapping to the body and almost using it as a jab. But anytime Canello did get off with a body shot, but just no sold it and kept flowing, not every fighter is going to be able to do that either against somebody of Canello's power and ability right there across the board in every category. Bud was like a 10 out of 10 on Saturday. But it was better everywhere. Let's listen to Bud talk about the victory.

Here's Bud after the fight. To be honest, when I set my sights on doing something and I know what I'm capable of, it's not like a surprise to me. It's a surprise to y'all because y'all didn't believe me. But for me, I knew I could do it, and I believed that I could do it. I just needed the opportunity.

Terrence, when did you know that you were going to beat him? him over here on your left. When he signed a contract. You want your opinion on which means the most to you. You became a five division world champion. You became the third four division lineal champion with Mayweather and Pachiao. You became a three-time undisputed champion, the first ever in the two, three, or four belt era. And you became the second undisputed champion.

an undisputed champion in three-way classes when there was only one champion back in 1938 with Henry Armstrong. That's a lot of stuff. You hear that? You hear that? Which do you think means the most? All of it. It all goes hand in hand.

Can you describe what it all means to you to have, you just made like a whole resume of stuff tonight? It means a lot to me because, you know, anybody can be a nobody. Like I said, you know. that's all they say i've been fighting there's nobody's so what can they say now somebody tell me what can you say now and say congratulations that's it what can you say any words thanks i bet you did

i just want to say he beat spence at age 35 and basically three quarters and he beat canello three divisions higher two week shy of 38. That's insane. Like, are you fucking kidding me? This is what we're talking about. So, Luke, I almost feel like I have to apologize to bud. Look, in the last two years, trying to come with to terms with how one-sided the Spence victory was, I have to say, as somebody who followed Spencer's career, the entire

way was a part of some of the, you know, Showtime paper views that led up to his biggest fights or the work I did on Fox before that, I knew how good Spence was, even with the accident, even with him being at an advanced age and cutting down to 47. I just convinced myself that a lot of that victory was Terrence's greatness, but a certain percentage of it

was Spence could no longer make that way, the accident, the this, the that. I feel like this Canello performance erases that and just says Bud was that much better than all the great welterweights of his era because he fought an unbeaten Spence who had gone through everyone.

Do you feel that same way that it almost successfully rewrites that history two years ago and shows you that if he could do this against this Canello right now, three divisions higher, he could have done that against anyone when he was on the wrong side of the street in his prime, not getting the fights I deserve. I will tell you, I don't feel that way, but because I, because what Bud did against Spence was so,

remember the story, right? So we have the guy here who did it when we were working for Showtime at the time. And I was used to doing previews for, them like the breakdowns and whatnot and they asked me to do one for spencer crawford but at the time crawford had the majority of his fight library with top rank who didn't give us a lot of footage to use so on bob so i know well i mean there wasn't i don't think they were being dicks they just they just didn't what happened they just didn't give us a lot so i went back to showtime and i was like hey don't i can't really make this work they're like all right well you know they didn't

just do a spence one people were killing me at the time were like why don't you do a bud preview we tried we didn't we couldn't get any footage but anyway so i went into that fight having broken down the brook fight and the algeri fight and the porter fight and then ugas and everything and i was like man i know bud is good but like man the tape on spence is absurd and then bud just played with him and took his best shots we forget about that spence landed in that fight early and bud walked through it there was that one time he got dropped where spence came in with a huge overhand left and bud had to roll with it in order to land the counter so my point being is i was my eyes were so wide open after that that didn't feel that way The only question was, now we're two years later, now we're three-weight classes up.

I mean, this is a different kettle of fish until it just wasn't. Dude, Bud is, you know, Bud is the most talented boxer I've seen since Mayweather. And, you know, you can make an argument and maybe we'll talk about it about whether he is better than Mayweather. But at a bare minimum, that's the most technically gifted boxer I've seen since then. And I know it in my bones that that is true. As we get a little closer to talking about this in historical context, let's listen to Canello, who obviously, fought Floyd Mayweather, when Floyd was 36, Canello was 23, and now at 35 fought a nearly 38-year-old Bud Crawford. Here's Canello comparing the two. In the world of comparisons that we

live in right now, if you can, compare and contrast the fight between yourself and Floyd Mayweather Jr. and tonight's bout with Terrence Bud Crawford, if you can. No, I think Crawford is way better than Floyd Mayweather. Wow. Wow. Way better. way better. Now, to be fair to Floyd, he obviously had hand problems in his whole Walter rate run and it's why he took that long stretch off

in 2007, 2008, 2009 area and Floyd's brilliance to be able to be just as great in some ways at that age. Like we're not here trying to dunk on Floyd. But this does from the idea of, is Bud the go to the era? Max Kellerman said it afterwards,

you know, a lot of us, I've been saying it in print or on CBS Sports HQ, like when you get a victory like this, when you close, although his career doesn't look to be, Fully done, we'll talk about that, but when you close your career with these type of wins, like right now, straight up, Luke, you could say that there's not a welterweight, junior middleweight, middleweight, or maybe even super middleweight.

And I say maybe even just because could Benevita's come back down and make 60, I don't know. But when you could say over like a four division stretch and say, Bud, cut down to any of these weights that there's not another guy in the world that can beat you right now, that's Mayweather level. Okay, that's Mayweather level right now. But in your eyes, is it fair to make him the fighter of this era? So what does that define? To me, this is the post-Mayweather Pacquiao era, meaning 2015, they fought each other. That sort of ended the era, even though both fought a couple times more in some forms, right?

We all thought it was the Canelo era after that. But if we're really looking at what this fight represented in terms of what's at stake, separate from the three undisputed championship opportunity, it was kind of like two guys fighting for the era, okay? This era, though, to be fair, also has Nayawa Inouye who won on Sunday in another big win. It has Alexander Usik, who has one of the most unique historic runs of all time. Is it fair to say first, just in the post-Mayweather Pacquiao era, that Bud secured on Saturday night that he's the best of the last 10 years of this run right now? I think so. Now...

That's tough on Usik. For Inouye, to me, the strength of schedule of Bud is better to the point where, yes, he's clearly out of Inouye. the Usik one is harder because he is Usik is I mean someone was asking me so what really is the difference between Usik and Bud

part of the issue but tell me if you disagree now he when he went through cruiserweight Usik he went through a very good crop He went through like a historically deep section they were all unbeaten and he beat them all in succession But the problem is going from cruiserweight

to heavyweight is that while he's having to give up these enormous weight advantages and he's beating these big figures it loses something because, you know, for example, if he unified at bridge or weight, which would be in between, would anyone care, would it mean anything? Whereas with Bud,

you've got these story divisions in between. So there's just much more material for him to be able to use usefully in that case. It's a very close debate either way. Him and Usik, to me, that's the real debate. Yeah, that is. That is the real debate. But the sexier thing now is to say,

because to me, before the Mayweather Pacquiao era, it was the Roy Jones era. And he was undoubtedly the best. best fighter through the, through the totality of the end of the 90s into those first couple years of the 2000s. So is it fair, even though Bud became a global star, even though Bud got the matchups, like, look, seriously, if you asked what are Bud's best wins, you're going to mostly focus on the last third of his career, the Sean Porter win when he finally got an elite welterweight

against him, you know, obviously the Spence, Madrimov and now Canello run right here. Obviously, it's not like he didn't beat anybody. He's a five division champion from Ricky Burns to Gamboa, like Jeff Horn was unbeat. and when he took the title from him. But because it took him so late to get the type of names on his resume that would even put him in this category, and we're comparing him to Floyd and Manny,

who have such a firm hold of history of this century and beyond from Floyd's 50 and O to being the biggest star financially that we've ever seen, to Pachial winning titles in eight divisions. And, oh, by the way, he's still going. He just fought Barrios, have 46

and almost won another world title. So is it, is there any way we can, possibly say that Bud has eclipsed both of those in historical relevance, or is this too much of a gray area? Because it might be one thing to say head to head at their welterweight primes, Bud versus Floyd. I don't know. I feel like a lot of us might actually be picking Bud right now. He's longer. He switches stances. He does, you know, there's certain things. But what he achieved? I cannot put him above Mayweather or Pacquiao because he got these opportunities so

late, even though it's insanely impressive. Well, wasn't Pacquiao like an eight division or nine division champion? It was an eight division champion. And the run, like Mayweather, the run of Hall of Famers that he beat along the way is like insanity. Yeah, I mean, that's the problem with Bud's career, right? It bloomed kind of late. And so where they stack up all time relative to one another complicates the debate. What I will say is, I find Bud to be as defensively sound as I've ever seen a fighter and has offense like body for days.

It's just you can't believe the different ways in which he can find you. He can find you. That's the problem, dude. There's nowhere to hide with him. he can find you it's really he can find you back and up he can find you going forward he can find you side to side like that's a tough guy to be like floyd he has such control over the terms in there it's just insane uh let's hear bud talk about by the way the power because it's not like he took nothing from canello yeah and he took it very well here's bud talking about that power by anybody that

strong before i've been hit harder no in a real fight not as far in a real fight avonisian i mean not avonisian but a Mean Machine hit harder than Canello, to me, to be honest. Now, to be fair, he just- Tell the folks about Mean Machine. He just Cavaliyoskis, Mean Machine, the Lithuanian Welterweight. He, I mean, so if you say, Bud's technically never been knocked down. But he got knocked down by Mean Machine. The referee missed the call.

He called it a slip. It wasn't. That's crazy. Now, Meen Machine's a big, hulking, muscular guy and was a hard puncher. Does that mean that Canello doesn't hit his heart or that Bud's swiveling and all that? What weight class did he fight mean machine? I'm at Walterweight, 147. 147.

And after getting knocked down, like a lot of bud fights, turned it into kick your ass mode, you know? Yeah, and then the thing to me about that is, like, how you felt at 47 and the relative power advantage that Mean Machine had there, doesn't mean that, like, at 68, Canello doesn't hit harder. It just means your body settled into it better. Also, Bud style to me in that fight, because I didn't watch the whole thing, but I went back on some highlights.

He was a little bit more open in that fight. little bit more. I don't think he thought Mean Machine was going to be anything and then maybe got a little surprise. Yes, yes, that's right. Was not surprised here. I mean, look, you got to give Beaumack, Brian McIntyre's trainer, so much credit give Bud so much credit. This wasn't a fight they stumbled into. It's almost a fight they've built

two years to get to. I have had such a hard time with Bo Mac's genius because I bought one of his, I told you about this, I bought his tutorial on the jab. I want to be very clear. It's the worst tutorial I've ever seen. Did he have the family-sized Cheetos bag or is that insensitive of me to bring that up? He does it with

With Jamel Herring, and they talk about the jab, the explanations for what he's trying to show are uniquely terrible. You would learn nothing watching it. For the record, Beaumack was a pro heavyweight. He was a journeyman. He has a losing record. But, like, I don't know how much of this genius is, bud compared to that. You know, we've seen that before. We've seen certain great elite fighters that have a trainer, and suddenly the trainer gets a lot of respect.

And then the trainer coaches others and doesn't go on to the same level. Bullmac does coach a lot of big-name fighters, right? And is he Keishon Davis's trainer as well? I'm not sure I believe he is So I think he's You know That video or not

You got to give him the flowers And that respect Here's a final thing on bud here It's this whole Floyd comparison This was a very I thought Classy response from Bud You know having his moment At the post fight press conference

When people are going to bring up These obvious comparisons To the guys that came before you Everyone is going to start making comparisons With your legacy to Floyd Mayweather How do you feel you compare with Floyd with the resume you have now.

Listen, Florida was the greatest in his air. I'm the greatest in my era. It ain't no need to compare me to Florida or Florida to me. You talk to talk and you sure walk the walk. Your confidence in aura is on another level. Could we see a run as a light heavyweight? Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

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Nah, we ain't going out that much. No. So first of all, it should be a lot. us, you know, people like us debating this, this legacy stuff. I like that. He's like, I'm not getting into this. I respect Floyd. I agree. Separate that. To close on him is, is what is next, what could be next? You heard him like laugh and say, no, not light, heavy weight. They would also ask at the presser, would you fight Benavides? And Beaumac was like, no. And then they're like, well, Turkey just tweeted what, what happens

if, if Benavitas could make 68 and they were like noncommittal. Later when Bud went on the sports center set with Stephen A. Smith, he was asked about coming back. And at first, remember, in the ring, Bud told Max Kellerman, like, I don't know, I got to pray, I got to talk to my family, I don't know if I'm going to continue. But did seem like he was willing to go to middleweight. Now, there's no names at middleweight. That's the issue. But he never did win a title at 160. He has one title at 54. He has one title at 54. I mean, look, there's, this is a very weak time for it. Adamas has a belt. Janibek has a couple belts, but this is obviously a very weak time in that division's history. Do you think it would make sense,

whether it was cutting down to 54, which he said he won't do again. He said he won't cut to 54 but there are good names there there's there's Virgil Ortiz there's uh boot tennis what if somebody becomes an undisputed champion there he and he gets that or what if he just says let's try to unify all these belts at 60 is it worth it for him to come back at this point do you think we'll see bud crawford who doesn't seem to be motivated by money and ike and brock and brock told me that he made 50 million for this fight i don't know i don't buy he made 10 million even a little bit so let's say he made 50 which is life generational life changing money will we see terence crawford again

Um, before the fight, I thought the answer was certainly yes, because about a year ago, maybe not even, I interviewed Beaumac, his trainer, and I asked Beaumac, like, what happens if you beat Canello? He's like, yeah, we're done after that. That's, that's all we care about. That's all we want. Once that's done, what's, and he even asked, like, what's left after that? Who cares?

And then they were not exactly saying that on Saturday, BC, and I think, you know, one thing that Bud said was, now I'm the face of boxing. Now I'm the guy, which I do believe to be true. He took it by force. He did take it by force. No one gave it to him. He took it by force. So once that happens, a new world of possibilities opens.

So I'm going to say yes, I think you do. Now, how far past this? It's got to be what, two or less fights? He's not going to be fighting until he's 40. I just don't believe that. But if he can add a six division title, which only Oscar De La Jolla and Manny Pacquiao have done. Yeah.

Pachio is eight. Oscar has six. And potentially go undisputed if there's that opportunity. At 60? I mean, that would be absolutely fucking insane. But I wonder. Okay, to close, I keep saying to close, but to really close, a lot of people online blaming Bob Aram and Top Ring for not maximizing the opportunity.

Now, to be fair to Bob Aram and Top Ring, what they said negatively about Bud when their, when their contract, when their union came to an end a couple years ago, they said, look, we can't sell this guy. We paid them this money. We put them in pay-per-views. It didn't sell. Now, these pay-per-views were against after-market Kellbrook and after-market Amir Khan, like there just wasn't the names. They got Sean Porter only because Al-Haman and PBC seemed to be okay and allow that.

Do you look back and say that top rank missed it? Or, like, to be fair, Bud was not a star back then. He didn't carry himself like a star. He wasn't a good interview. He wasn't a great self-promoter. He was just a great fighter. Did they miss out on the boat of still being a part of this ride and getting him into those fights?

Because to be fair, even though Floyd and Oscar came up and won titles under Bob, both didn't really become commercially what they became until they left to be fair. I mean, to your point, Dale O'Hoya had to leave Bob. I mean, Dale La Jolla was a star first. The trade of that fight was under Bob.

Okay, fine, fine, but he eventually left him to do other big things. Floyd definitely left Bob to become big things, and sure enough, so did Terrence. I mean, there seems to be some kind of a common denominator here. The thing that I come back to, though, is, like, at the time Bob was making those calls, they did not seem,

they did not seem particularly irrational to me. Bud wasn't Bud back then and not the person you understand now it just didn't really happen so could Bob have done a better job I'm sure that you can make the argument but it wasn't exactly clear who to do I mean listen I make this point all the time

dude think about how much money the NFL and in particular NFL team spend on talent scouting and the combine and who they're going to draft and what place they're going to draft him and some guys don't get drafted until dude Tom Brady did anyone think Tom Brady was going to be Tom Brady when he got

drafted, whatever the fuck. I mean, borderline Mr. Irrelevant when he got drafted, nobody knew. Some people don't work well within the scouting, talent, star identification process. Yeah, you and I are two of them. Yeah. We don't fit the mold very easily. And I mean, forget us, but neither did. But we don't have cop's agent because that guy is on TV every minute. I need an agent who can overlook the things I'm bad at like his agent does. But okay, the point I'm trying to make is he didn't fit that he didn't fit that so like it's going to be hard to break out but but clearly what we can all agree on now is a lot was missed and what whoever's fault that is you can decide we can all debate whether this union between ufc and turkey is going to work whether

they can actually take over boxing whether we want them to ali act blah blah blah blah blah i don't want to be in a situation moving forward with someone as great as bud is on the wrong side of the street and misses the big matchups in his prime because somebody this great should have the complete resume to prove that even though his resume is very good but it's just it is what it is quickly let me tell you something here i'm going to tell you about the the story of where tequila began because now was a good time to remember tequila's truly origin story you're ready for this in 1795 quervo invented tequila and since then quervo has stayed true to its roots same family same land even bigger the same passion yes 230 years later quaver was still here and every poor

in every margarita in every celebration so enjoy the tequila that started it all quervo the tequila that invented tequila proximo quervo.com please drink responsibly and luke pregame preview 320 coming up for ufc and us here at morning combat that's right i'm looking forward who do you want in that chair who do you who do you want in that chair angela white there we go there it is again there it is again all right let's transition to topic number two but where you're going to stay in the boxing ring oh let's talk about Canello. Let's talk about the biggest star of this era, taking the baton from Floyd Mayweather without question. Some boxing fans online, observers, they want to argue that Canello took this loss to Terrence Crawford professionally, but possibly too willingly.

Luke, do you agree with this? And if so, what does that mean for Canello's future? Did the years of lesser opponents, and you'd been a big advocate for pointing that out, I've been saying he's been coasting, we've all been saying it. Mungia, Berlanga, you know, these type of matchmaking, even Jermel Charlo, who didn't come to play in their big moment. Did that lead up to this catching up with Canello? Do you feel Canello was too willing to accept defeat, even though he put his hand up after the bell in the 12th round, people criticized him? It was a closer fight than maybe your eyes tell you. It was a competitive fight until it wasn't. But what do you make of how we should be looking at Canello coming off of this

defeat? To me, this was proof of what we've kind of known. People are, like oh the reason why he performed lesser than in this fight is because he's been taking lesser than fights and that dulled the sharpness of his blade yet he has been consistent in fighting i don't buy that argument is only fought twice in a couple years and looks tremendous which is rare yeah i don't buy that theory my theory is he took those lesser than fights because he had a keen self-awareness of his own decline because the reality the reality is he not only took these bullshit-ass fights. Remember, he expressly dodged and ducked David Benavides. You're like, I have no sympathy for him. Well, it's not about having sympathy. It's like,

it's like he didn't get lesser than because he didn't take, like, in other words, in a different world where he fights Benavides and he fights these other tougher guys, he would still be sharper as a consequence. And I just don't believe that. I think he knew he was on the down. Dude, like the very, it's the same with John Jones. The very best fighters, the very best athletes, the really, really good ones, they know their body and they know their level and they know what they're capable of. And to me, they were both trying, in John's case,

as well as Canello's case, they were trying to manage decline, which, as you understand, is fine except when they hold the belts. In both cases, that was the problem. And in fact, we're going to talk about this because people are asking like, what's next for Canello?

It might be Jake Paul. It really might. It might be Jake Paul. But he doesn't have a belt. So it's like, who's he holding us? up he's not holding up anything at this point but getting back to canelo this was to me when he could no longer hide that he has been in decline it's not a huge decline but i want to say fallen off a cliff right i don't think he lost because he was old like i don't think he was struggling

a little bit in the championship round stamina wise i just think he couldn't figure him out and right so the stamina to me he looked to be in better shape in this one than i saw him in the mungia fight for example i thought he was in much and even the burlonga one i thought he was in better shape um But the reality is, B.C., this was an opponent. He could not, you know, he could not, I don't expect, there was, there, he could camouflage his decline against a Berlanga, who he could knock down early and then, you know, kind of just do better than the rest of the way. But is not that guy.

You can't do that to him. It simply doesn't work. And so to me, what got revealed is something that's been there for a while, that he has been trying to hide from the public. No more hiding. No more hiding at all. Let's hear from Canelo talking about exactly how difficult it was to deal with Terrence Crawford in this fight. We knew Crawford was a great, he's a great fighter, and I did what I'm supposed to do, right?

I tried for every way, and I trained really hard, and he deserved all the credit, no? I try my best tonight and I just cannot figure out the style. Was it something specific, the movement or his speed or power or what? Was there something you could put your finger on that gave you the most trouble? Everything, everything. He has everything. And just one more. Canelo, it has been, I can't even know the number of years it's been since you've been without a world title.

Even after you lost to Dimitri Bevo, you still were the super middleweight champion. It's been probably 10 years or whatever since you haven't had a title. Has it sunk in yet that for the first time and all that time you're not a world champion? Can you repeat the question, please? It's been so many years since you have not been a world champion. And so it's sunk in yet that for the first time in forever, you're not a world champion. No, I feel a champion, no matter what. you know i i win no matter what no matter what and i still feel the champion so it is what it is

you take you need to take the loss and and accept everything and but i'm going to continue i'm going to continue to do it dude i got to give him credit i don't know if people wanted him to like argue that he thought he won i got to say i would have like a little delusional you know i thought he took it well actually i mean did he take it oh rome raging and saying and delusional shit. Maybe that would be more appealing to some people. It wasn't more appealing to me. He was like, you know what, dude, holy fuck.

I just, dude, sometimes you, you know. Like when he lost to Beval, he still was saying, I want to rematch. I want to show you because maybe part of him thought, because that was during the era he had the injured wrist and he couldn't train well. Maybe there was part of him that thought, give me another chance, I'll do it. This was him realizing, I just got straight up handled. I got beat. I didn't think I was going to get beat.

I got beat. But for him to say, I'm going to keep fighting. I respect that. the Benavitas thing I guess does that cloud go away that we held that against him because I don't think he's going to seek that fight I think Jake Paul is a perfect option for him to make money

and get an easy one I'm wondering if it's going to be instead Turkey overpaying him to fight Hamza Shiraz or Chris Eubank if he beats Ben Yeah maybe the Eubank one Go to an England stadium for that right Yeah like that seems possible now Again there's no titles involved

He can go and jump around and take whatever he wants And you can decide if you like that fight or not but he's not holding anything up. He's not, you know, he's not avoiding any mandatory anymore. I don't think he can fight at Light Heavyweight anymore. I don't think it's a good. Without the motor, the motor is going down. I don't think it's a good idea.

And I do, again, I think he got in really good shape for this fight. I just don't know how much he can do that every fight here after. He's probably the realization of I did the best I could at this fight in this point in my career. Dude, at some point, like, can you imagine, like, you tried your absolute best. It wasn't enough. Are you supposed to feel bad about yourself? You can feel bad about the circumstances. You can feel bad about the result.

But, like, dude, it's, it's, It sounds simple, but it's what we teach our kids. I don't get the dunking on them. If you give everything you have, why are you, like, what else was there to do? You did what you could, you know? What's with this automatic just dunking on him of he would, you know, from people saying he was never that, he was never the pound for pound number one. He was just the most popular fighter.

There was a time where he was. He didn't beat all the unbeaten champions, you know what I mean, except for Benavitas, of course. And he did it quickly as well. And I mean, there's, I don't know. He fought three to four times a year in his most recent prime, right? the 168 prime like he was great did he lose now three times against I mean look we all thought he lost at least once against triple D right I thought he lost the first one so I mean I thought

he lost both to be fair but the four fighters he fought that were better than him he lost to them he's still in all-time grade still in conversation for the best in Mexican history um still gonna keep fighting but he met his match here it came against a smaller fighter but again this was not a small that's the craziest thing to me i like it's not that we didn't know bud was an inch taller with four inches longer arms but because he put on the weight incrementally and because inactivity doesn't seem to affect sometimes the great ones right like you know ray leonard coming back after three and a half years to beat haggler it's just wild and by the way the haggler comparison haggler's considered sort of like the best switch hitter of all time

it might be bug but isn't even switching he's just going to south paw out of nowhere and closing the fight out and then in this case it was 12 full rounds of Southpaw and is somehow even better in some cases that he is as a right. Isn't it amazing that his two best wins came out of Southpaw, Spence and Canello? That's wild, dude. And again, people are like, oh, but he can be, you know, because you can make the argument, well, maybe he's better out of South Paul. Yes, I mean, clearly he's very adept at it.

But I just want to point out, that's not his natural stance. Whatever else you want to say, he is normally, or at least the way he is, if you asked him, you know, what is your conventional stance, it is, in fact, right-handed, you know. Yeah, but notice, no talk about rematch, which is a good thing. We don't need a rematch. Yeah, I didn't. Canello doesn't want a rematch. I figured it was like, you know, you always have to ask yourself, when the fight's over, is there

going to be public demand for it? I don't think there's a lot of public demand for it, you know? And that's the only problem with Bud moving forward is there's no obvious next name unless they wanted to do something crazy. We talked about a pre-fight. Canello was the win where he made the boxing establishment say, I'm him. Yep. They made, he made him, excuse me, he made them do it.

But now that you've done it, it's like, how do you top this? There might be some ways, but it's not so clear. Whereas for Canello, dude, I mean, this frees him up. You want to go fight, you bank in London, go do it. You want to go fight Jake Paul and fucking wherever, go do it. Like, you can just go do whatever the fuck you want now. Yeah, I saw Nate Diaz. Tony Ferguson.

Nate Diaz tweeted Terence Crawford with a target. Terence Crawford. I mean, we all love Nate D.S. I'm sure Teporea wants his chance now, too. We all love Nate D. What did you think? about Bud's walkout by the way with the guitar so it was kind of badass

I'm over the non-mexican fighters putting on the Mexican gimmick like you know like with Floyd wore the sombrera something and now 18 people have done that after him but to then find out about Toporia but then to find out the press conference that Terrence didn't know that was Toporia's workout song so it was sort of an accidental

so it was from the desperado movie right I know on the poster Antonio Benderas by the way is Spanish not Mexican I know the movie is Mexican but he has the guitar it it was badass the tool thing while while weird timed was also badass. The long gap between the co-main and main event when it's already 1 a.m. was not fun.

But let's get into that because that is topic number three. It's looking at this event in general. We can act like it wasn't a massive super fight. You had Netflix at the table. We're all interested in seeing the ratings here of how many people were watching live or if they stayed up for it. But I've heard so many casuals knowing about this fight,

watching this fight being impressed by Terrence Crawford in this fight. This was also the first TKO-backed boxing event. Dana White Ringside, whether it looked like he was happy to be there or not, the stakeholders of Saudi Arabia were in place. In fact, Luke, we can take a quick look at the still photo here, if you will, Luke Thomas, of Turkey shadowboxing, Jason Statham, Mr. Beast. Is this the weirdest fucking group of all time? Nightmare Blunt rotation, as you would say?

Yeah, I mean, the most nightmare blunt rotation. I mean, okay, if you had to smoke weed with one of them, it's Jason Statham, right? No doubt about it. Right. I don't even know if Mr. Beasts is a human. Mr. Beast might be a part robot and lizard at the same time. Mr. Beast and Turkey to me is

I'm not, like I don't know, just a no. Yeah, look at Mauritius and Suleiman in the back. You don't think Mr. Beast would be like, hit this blunt X amount of times and I'll give you X amount of money. It might be a good half. He's ready to play squid games with the MK crew. There's no doubt about it. Let's just hold on. Leave this picture up for a second.

Do I have anything to report? No. Was there a lot of rumor-mongering? Yes. on Fight Week that Dana and Turkey are beefing. Yes, there was. That awkward moment at the end of the press conference. Yes, there was.

There was a ton of rumor mongering that these two can't stand each other. Let's get into the overall picture here. I want you to grade the performance of this first event because there was a lot of expectations. There was a lot of pressure on UFC to maybe reinvent the wheel to be fair, right? And I know it didn't seem like everything UFC wanted to do was executed. There seemed to be a lot of Turkey influence in here. here. I don't know the inside story. I don't know how all those relationships work. But what do you think went right with the broadcast? What did you not like? How would you grade

overall? The appearance, the feel, the length, everything that went into UFC's full on jump into the deep end debut in boxing. I think that there were many, many positives. I also think there's a lot to work on. Now, let me say this. I talked to some folks who were, you know, had some understanding of how this broadcast work. And my understanding is they wanted to do a certain kind of stuff. But dude, the Saudi influence where they're like, well, now we need to interject this part into the broadcast. And I want this guy shown on the broadcast. And I want this production element introduced into the broadcast. My understanding is there was a lot of that and it lengthened the broadcast to an absurd degree. First of all, unless you know you've got like

Pitbull Cruz on the main card, three fights on the main card. Four fights. Dude, it should be a law. If your broadcast starts at X time, your main event must start, not at three and a half, four hours after that. If you're doing a fight on Netflix, which means you are aggressively railing in the casual audience, you cannot offer fights before that

that are not bangers or some like this is the next biggest, like if Carmel Moton was on there in like a four-rounder against a nobody, even that would be like, here's the next big thing. So you got to give credit, obviously, for Christian Mabili and Lester Martinez fought. There are balls off. Great fight.

And that was great. But to open this card with a 21-year-old Saudi prospect who's like a four-round guy has one-k-o in five fights and you put him in a 10-round fight against a guy who's going to quit boxing in two weeks and go join the Army? Like, what are we doing here? Dude, there's no way they put that fight on the beginning of Netflix broadcast. You're turning people away that are like, oh, shit, Conella? What is this fight?

Everybody's talking about. I don't know this for a fact. I would bet everything I own that Turkey made them do that. I'd bet everything I own Turkey made them do that. And even though I didn't argue against Dana's choice of pushing Callum Walsh into that co-man event spot, it just turned out that the fight sucked. And they both really weren't ready for the full prime time. Which is fine.

You know, like they could have. It was well matched. It was well marketed. I didn't care about that part. It didn't work, but whatever. So listen, the length of the broadcast was a problem. What the fuck they were doing with Tool without Maynard? I don't know what the fuck that was.

That was kind of weird. I will say that I loved the walkouts. And, dude, the quality of the net. Netflix picture on your screen is so fucking high it looked beautiful literally on my TV it literally looked beautiful

let me let me add on to that the in arena production of the lights the colors when bud came out there were lights that made it look like there was an American flag across the crowd when canello came out you had the colors of the Mexican flag that was the most impressive in stadium because look we always say

the 10 minutes before the what stadium boxing matches have you been to besides this one I've been to Spence Ugass. So I was there with you. And I have not been in another one, but I've seen it on TV. And I'm saying from, when I say stadium, I mean, I didn't specifically mean stadiums or domes. I basically met the in arena experience that I've ever seen in boxing. This was that times a thousand.

So they always say the most exciting time in boxing are the 10 minutes before the bell rings for the main event, the walkouts. And that's true. The anxiety, the feeling, everyone's on their feet. Dude, the mariachi jam bands that were playing. This was a 10 out of a 10. So that's a credit to Netflix to UFC and Zufo Boxing's production team. Like that was tremendous right there. I totally agree with that.

The Netflix signs around the ring, the end on the- Can I just say that big ring apron where they've got the Netflix stuff and then in the ring posts itself? It was awesome. I love that. Bring that back every single time. It pushes the crowd back a little bit further. So fucking what?

That is such a cool thing that they add to the broadcast. I love it. Part of why we assume there was a deeper, power play going on is because what have we heard Dana say forever about the things he hates about boxing, the length of the cards, the podcast between, you know, fights, all that. I, seeing Dana looking so unhappy at ringside for the majority of this event without knowing what really went on, I have to believe that there were elements of this broadcast that he wasn't able to carry out to what he expected.

There's no doubt in my mind that there's a broadcast that they wanted to do. And then there's the broadcast that they had to do. and as a consequence, it was way, way, way too long. Also, I will say this, when you've got a main event that's going to cost $150 to $200 million, you know, that is going to limit who else you can put on the card. But as a general rule, I would like to see at least one other bout of, I mean, I guess you could say the M. Billy Martinez fight was a real significance. But, you know, between that and then the main event, excuse me, the co-main event not working,

and then the opening bout being a complete waste of everyone's time. You know, again, three fights on the main card if what you care about is the casual audience and to the extent possible because sometimes we see the main event fighters or the A sides have a say in the timing of the event. I don't know if that was in play in this one, but it can happen. But to the extent possible, it's not just what's the distance

between the start time of the broadcast and the main event. the main event needs to start, in my opinion, in boxing no later than 11.30 p.m. East Coast time. I'm with you. I wonder if, like, did Canello control certain terms of when he can come out? I mean, he looked like he was at odds too with the operation. Remember when he was arguing with Max Kellerman earlier in the week? That's true. I don't know. It's hard to say. But maybe we'll, from a Zufo boxing standpoint, I'm sure it's going to be hard to judge their true impact innovations, all of that until we see their series that Dana says is coming out. Yeah, that's right. I mean, I would say this. Are there a bunch of positives to build off? of totally did everything work absolutely not but hardly any disaster hardly any kind of failure it's just this has got it dude if you're dana white and you've been talking so much shit about how boxing

broadcasts have all these unnecessary elements and he's right i agree with him you have to do something different they didn't this time let's see if they do going forward knowing that these Netflix events, these fights on Netflix, whether it's Katie Taylor and Serrano, Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, and now this, they're, they're purposely made to it to bring in the casual audience. So are you okay with the overabundance of celebrity interviews of celebrities position next to Turkey at ringside? They're sort of rotating. It's like, oh, there's Mark Wahlberg, there's this. Is that sort of the equivalent of like a Super Bowl has all these other gimmicks to keep the housewives and, you know, engaged? It's a very generic way of saying it,

but like stereotypical way of saying it, but do you think that's okay for these type of Super Bowl type events? I think for these kinds of events, it is because if you're really reaching the casual audience, that means you're probably going to have a lot more women than you ordinarily would.

You might have different kinds of demographics in terms of age or income. Who knows? And just sort of like, you know, running the gamut to see who's here. People still give a fuck, you know. But, you know, whoever's there. I don't mind that.

But like, here's the things that they were wasting, like Turkey talking to Max Kellerman about Saudi Arabia. I got to tell you, Here's how often I want to hear from Turkey during any broadcast. I know. Not at all. Turkey, nobody wants to hear from you.

Nobody, nobody. I think the problem is because him and his nation are paying for it all, people in boxing were so quick from day one to induct him into the Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame and give him his flowers that now it's, he feels he's bigger than it all. But it's not just him. So, for example, before the main event, I didn't think they did a bad job. But they go to Mario Lopez and Antonio Tarver and I think Creagle and then Copp and they're like, let's get your main event picks. And I'm like, let's not.

It's 1 a.m. Let's get to the fight. Don't need to hear what the fuck Mark Kriegel is or Mike Coppinger or who, any of them. I love Antonio, but I just don't care. I want to fucking see the fights. I love Mark Kriegel, by the way. Really great guy if you get to know him outside of it. There were a lot of critiques about certain elements.

Look, I love the trio of Max Kellerman, Andre Ward and John Anick. But Luke, Kellerman received a lot of. criticism some of it was fight week some of it was fight night even though it was great to hear max back in his element doing what he loves the amount of propaganda from him was out can we put that up one more time i don't think luke saw it because luke's uh i'm finding a photo of max kellerman i'm not blowing off the show i believe you is it justified in totality from the broadcast to where people criticized max for the way he asked questions in the post fight interviews um say what you will

as much as it was great to have him back hosting those ring live shows doing a lot of stuff I don't know how to fully explain or understand why the the ass kissing slash you know if turkey wasn't born

none of us would be here type thing was so damn outrageous over the top how do you even address that? I got a picture of Max talking about like all the they're just doing a bunch of shilling and you might be saying well how can you really tell

you know what that means for max by a picture but here here's the picture and i feel like it's pretty good right this is yeah this is max kellerman talking about all that stuff is the reason why i felt being a talking head and boxing was ever going to be possible for me that's exactly what he's the best so this was this was to me the most dispiriting part about this was number one early in the broadcast when i was listening to max i was like wow he sounds like the same old max like this is great and then again you do the live show and you miss a lot of the commentary which is where i think later on in the card is where most of the stuff he said became objectionable

but the issue for me is he didn't do this in his HBO boxing days. No he was the opposite he was the opposite dude when it was HBO it was him Lampley and Roy Jones I remember as an MMA fan watching these broadcast and listening to Max and Jim

in particular kill the promoter for any kind of malfeasance or you know saying stupid stuff and you can't do that in the modern days that was a of a special HBO boxing. Fine, fine, fine. You don't have to. But, like, how many times did Max mention the BMF belt?

Max, what the fuck are we doing, dude? Nobody needs. You guys complain about the alphabet system in boxing with good reason. And now you want to introduce a fucking BMF belt in boxing. What are we talking about here? This is absurd. More to the point, B.C., aside from that, I thought that Jim, excuse me, I thought that John Anick actually did a very good job.

He was great. Let me ask you this, though. What did you make of the criticism of boxing fans, which was, hey, John actually sounds pretty good, but they would argue he just sounds like the voice of the UFC. I understand. I didn't feel that way. I mean, I agree he is the voice of the UFC in that sense. But, like, I didn't feel like it was an impediment because I thought he jelled really well with them. Right.

Also, if you don't know John's history, he came up in boxing. He hosted a boxing radio show. He was at all the pay-per-views in Vegas for that show. He called boxing championship fights on ESPN before he completely. made the switch to MMA and then got hired by UFC. Also, I thought he really controlled traffic and performed very well.

Considering the first time this trio is together, first time Kellerman was calling fights in seven years. So all in all, I mean, even people were ripping that one moment where they put the live camera on the ring side and John's like, hey, Andre and Max, you can talk to me. And people like thinking there's some fighting going on. Dude, that's just John is working with largely

UFC production people. Those guys are not used to this broadcast. He's just letting them know, like, hey, He knows all the producers around him on set there as well. But getting back to Kellerman a little bit, I also felt like he was a little rusty. So I'm going to give him partially the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to kill him for the post-fight interviews. A lot of people thought he was like awkward.

Yes. So what he does is he asks a question, he gets an answer. He does two things. One, he kind of waits a long time before he gets to the next question, which I don't mind, but he did it a little long, but that's not a big deal. There's a million people in the ring. Do you see Bolmec at that point yell at the cameras? Go, get away from me!

It was like when I saw Wutang Clan in concert, they were a hundred people on stage. Dana hates that, too, by the way. I know. You can tell it wasn't a Dana White event for that reason. But the other part to me, B.C. was the preamble he would go into in these questions, being like, but we all know you have fucked every guy's wife in here. How does it feel to be the chief wife fucker?

Let's talk about all the ways in which you have fucked their wives. Also, your reaction to winning tonight. It's like, what is up with this fucking DML that we're doing? You got a lot of opinions online. Here's Nikisa Bedarian of MVP, who also has done some work on Netflix. He says another great Netflix production and broadcast team. John Anick was amazing. Andre Ward was flawless, as usual.

Only out of the he was Max Kellerman saying the same scripted narrative 108 times. Did you go back and listen to the broadcast? I actually was listening to the broadcast from Press Row for every fight except for the main event because I wanted to not be distracted and be completely dialed. So just to be fair. You never know where you're going to be seated as a boxing press a person anymore. It automatically was always ringside for years. Then in recent years, they started to follow more of the Eddie Hearn European trend.

In Europe, they put the media up in the upper deck in the crowd with no workspace. They've been starting to move, obviously, the American media at these fights, even in Vegas, out deeper on the floor, which can make it harder to truly score round by round or have a feel of what's going on. For this, they put us like up in the crowd. Now, it's still the top of the first level. dome we were far away so i'm scoring the fight to be honest with you off of the screens everybody that's in my area watching off of the screens um but i did listen to the broadcast i i align with a lot of these i don't mind max playing team ball once or twice and saying look there is an opportunity

here with all of these power players to make a new boxing for the future and here's the kickoff for that i don't mind doing that he's work he's there he's working for that the powers that be these days there is no editorial like HBO boxing and Larry Merchant established it's not there anymore you're not going to work for the promoter anymore because the promoters are aligned so aggressively with the networks but this was ad nauseum

to a level that was Anik works for the same people and he wasn't doing any of that now to top all this are you against even though Saudi paid for everything here that every person in the crowd at Allegiance Stadium received a program which was cool and a copy of ring magazine

which is cool and a Saudi Arabian travel brochure. Yeah. I mean, once again, I don't know what to say. If they're going to pay for it, it's their show, they can do it. In that sense, I don't have a problem with it. But in the sense that these events are used to launder a murderous dictatorial government, yeah, I do have a problem with that. But, you know, I guess we don't really care anymore.

So I don't know what to say. Yeah, I guess that's the situation. Shout out to Sergey Boeuch and Brandon Adams. They had the rematch and the featured prelim. I didn't see any of the prelinks. 36-year-old Brandon Adams beat him a second time, got inside on him. it was a fun action fight, that should have been the opener on the main card.

That would have kicked a lot of best. Dude, you saw a Saudi guy who was no fucking good. I mean, I guess he won. And they switched his opponent like a week before. They put him on the main card. Why do you think he's there? Turkey put him. Again, I don't know that.

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go to the movies I did not realize how much I was missing it made a huge difference a long island Luke I did want you to sprinkle on here just to close when talking about UFC's kickoff into boxing were you impressed by the Netflix broadcast at all yeah like Luke said I thought it looked really good I was thinking that the whole time it was very crisp it was smooth in the past on these Netflix ones, Taylor Serrano. I had buffering issues, streaming issues, stuff like that. So I got no complaints, man. It was a smooth. I'm interested to see what these

I mean, Turkey has already tweeted that it's the most watch boxing event in history, Luke. I don't know that it's possible that it already is, but... What is the most watchboxing event? I think it's generally considered to be, it depends how you do it, right? So the Muhammad Ali Leon Spinks rematch in 1978 at the Superdome in New Orleans

was bought by ABC and it got 90 million viewers at a time when people were tied to their, you know, six channels or whatever they had. So that's insane, right? Yeah. Also, what was the U.S. population in 78? Let me look that up. But Tyson versus Paul just recently on Netflix did 60-something million concurrent,

100-something million total viewers. So I don't, I'm going to guess that they overachieved here, but overachieving still might be like 50 million, right? Yeah, dude, 1978, there were 222 million people. So 90 million is almost, not quite half the country. Yeah, that's insane. That is. I mean, Muhammad Ali was at a different level than Canello, you know,

all that will ever be at. All right, let's transition out of boxing here and get into mixed martial arts and there was a lot to talk about there. You know what? That main event was fun. Dude, that main event was an absolute banger. I mean, we just started dating, right?

I hope so. Hey, this third ever Noce UFC event took place in San Antonio. Wasn't a pay-per-view, wasn't an overly loaded card, but certainly had some moments and had a featherweight main event that was must-see on paper, was insanely must-see after the fact

if you missed it, a thriller. as Diego Lopez bounces back from his vacant title loss to Alexander Volcanovsky by continuing to bury the fighting nerds trajectory of late by taking on the favorite Lord Gian Silva, back and forth, bloody, and suddenly in round two it is viciously over a spinning back elbow from Diego Lopez, who took some damage to start that round after sort of dominating the first round in full mount for half of it. What a wild turn of events.

Luke, what did Diego Lopez prove with this victory? did it prove that he's still near the top of this division? We could say a lot about what this means for the fighting nerds, but right off the top for Diego Lopez to weather that storm and then beat Silva with the same type of dynamic highlight real strikes that he was getting hit with. What does this say about him coming off of that title loss? Yeah, I was a little bit concerned about him after the Volcanovsky loss

because of what it did to him in terms of showing how limited some of his positioning in the cage is. And, you know, as I mentioned, sometimes you get these guys, in title fights and then they come out afterwards and they're still missing a step but there was none of that with Diego lopez he absolutely proved he was very elite and but the chin well let me he got hit with a highlight real slew of punches right in that how about that front kick right underneath the three piece combinations i mean everything was landed on the thing that was so impressive to me bc was was we knew his ground game was good but the addition of his wrestling skill now yeah where he waited for the

spin which by the way you could tell that they had planned that right so you wait for the spin you go to the body lock, you mat, return him to the floor, and then you immediately assume a dominant position. And then you can hold the dominant position because of how good your grappling skills are, beats the living shit out of him for most of that round. Now, there was a little bit of a rebound towards the end of the first by Silva. Those elbows were terrible. Um, and then in the second, I thought Silva was doing great. So like, to me, the lesson here was BC. Are there still known limits to Diego Lopez's game? Yes. At range, Silva was busting him up. That's just just a fact. And as you saw in the fight with Volkovsky, the positioning issues can be quite

real. However, he's got offense everywhere. He has a chin, dude. He's so dangerous in close. Remember at UFC 300 when Sadiq Youssef was in the clinch, they break clinch for a minute and boom, that shot comes right over from him. Like he, if you are like, if we're at kicking range, it's a different ball game. We're at striking range with punches. Still, it depends on who. he's fighting but Silva was better there but you get into clinch range or all the things that happened in the grappling department he was way better than Silva and was I think honestly very surprising with his own spinning attacks dude Diego Lopez has offense everywhere dangerous I don't want to say that saved him but him landing that strike at that moment and a fight that he had had

highs and lows I think he holds serve and then some as an elite fighter in this division like it's redemptive in so many ways and also I want to be clear like dude he He used Silva's pressure against him. Yes. He weaponized all this. He knew this guy was going to be charging hard the whole time. So they had attacks ready. He had that nasty mustache, too.

Yeah, he looked like a 1980s high school football coach. And he's got 10 haircuts at the same time, which I don't quite understand, but that's another thing going. But the point I'm trying to make is, dude, like, I think that, I want to be clear, like, oh, all the limits that we saw in the Volk Fighter are gone. No, no, not necessarily. But what I can say is, is he taking some of his existence? strengths like grappling and then building on them with improved wrestling. Yes. And he is always ready to go for offense. He's always in a position to throw or to strike or to, you know, to clinch or to, you know, you name it. He's always ready to attack. So if you're pressuring him

did Volk, it showed, had exactly the right approach. Diego Lopez is so dangerous. You kind of want to keep him at your range and chip away at him. Silva wanted to just, you know, I'm going to like a Visigoth running down the fucking hill. I'm going to go after him. You can't fight that dude that way. You can't do it. No. Are you with me that if that perfect spinning elbow didn't land when it did that this is, this was heading into fight of the year territory. This was heading into just some bat shit craziness. I think that Silva did show me he's dangerous at range, really dangerous at range. But I don't know how much longer that fight. would have lasted in any case. You know what I mean?

Let's see the before and after of both fighters. Here's the handshake to start the fight. Dude, there it is afterwards. Let me ask you a question. They couldn't get a towel for this guy? Dude, I think it just kept leaking. I mean, you've got to be honest. You've never seen an elbow land like that spinning one did

and then see that much blood flow all over. The canvas, the arms, the legs. I have. I mean, I've seen some pretty bad elbows. That was wild. So Lord Gian Silva's intensity kind of worked again. I mean, he was out of control intense from the stare-down with the wife before. I don't know she plays a big part in his camp in making him the man he is as the woman behind. Every great man should be.

It doesn't have to be behind, but that's the old saying. I'm not trying to dig misogynistic holes for myself here. But Luke, then he did the same thing with Bruce Buffer in such a out-of-control way. Can I be honest? That made me uncomfortable. Round two then after being on the ground of full mountain taking a beating, he had great success, but it was wild great success. It was just constant. Like, it's like when you play the UFC video game and you hit like the four buttons together that create like the spinny shit.

Dude, he's just throwing like murderous shit left and right. Is that sustainable at the elite level? No, I think Silva was shown up here a little bit. I think that if my takeaway is anything, it's like, okay, I did not, his grappling against Bryce. I had said was somewhat vetted. Yeah. But it's not vetted enough. He had real problems with it.

And again, partly facilitated by the spinning attacks, which did not need to have. happen because you saw he got taken down in the second round but he got up much quicker in the second round so it wasn't nearly as bad but the fact that he spins like and is just so aggressive with it and is trying to live in a flow state these are defensive liabilities he almost hit so many of those dude like or sometimes he did hit it that up like the yes sometimes again he's dangerous and he's reversed that reverse yeah yeah no he's dangerous but dude this games where you're like I'm trying to be in some kind of fight artistic flow state and I like you're like dude manuel augustus is remembered for his style not for the bodies of resume like of names on his

resume and silver kind of reminds me of that he's got this kind of i mean not to the same degree drunken master he he has in this insane very fun style but dude that's not going to work on volk and it didn't work on diego lopez and i have a feeling it's definitely not going to work on mowsar and if you and maybe others as well algeman you think that shit's going to work on algeman aljim is not going to play this fucking game with you like it these are these are fun antics like there's a question about the fighting nerves I shouldn't know we'll get to

but the point is you can play these games against decent to maybe even good opponents you cannot do that against the top of the division they are absolutely ruthless with how they will audit what's wrong with you and he got fucking audited

whether the timing is fair or not Silva's loss plays into the larger narrative that the fighting nerds exploded on the scene where as exciting as possible in Silva's case in these wins showing like all this joy and craziness in a positive way and now as each have stepped up

with the exception of Olishishan since coming to their camp we've seen them now lose let's first hear from Diego Lopez who had a lot of sort of pre-fight hectic issues with Silva when they would cross pass at the hotel there in San Antonio here's the message he gave to the fighting nerds after the fight what was that emotion like

right after the fight it looked like he maybe tried to punch you what was going on there yeah it's like I'm surprised with this too like I feel they punch my back my head I mean, I'm turning on like he jumped me in my back in my head. No, I don't understand for why, but it's okay. This is maybe the emotion, no, this time, because this guy is a little bit hungry for

because he slows the flight, no? But it's okay. I feel good now. This is my moments like the people not, like, like, the people don't, like, not, come that they're not going to pay for the price for my victory. I'm not going to pay that price for the victory. You jumped up on the cage. You were flipping off some people.

What was that about? Like, this is your training partners, no? Like, before I entered in the octagon, the Kutman put the vaccine in my face. Your partner, your training corner, talk to a lot, it's like, oh, you died today, this guy killed you, you saw, sorry, guys. your socks, this guy knocked you out,

like, I talk a lot of bad words, you know. Yeah, after this, it's okay, it's okay, you know. But after I finish the fight and go to face your training partners, sorry, I show my things for these guys. What advice would you give him now that he suffered his first loss in the UFC? What advice would you give him now that he suffered his first loss in the UFC? What advice would you say to him? now that he's

his first play in UFC? I don't know. Maybe maybe train more. Talk less, train more. I want to say

I'm not protecting Gian Silva for hitting that rabbit punch after the fight ended, which, you know, back in the day, you can lose your job for that. Although I think it was fueled by the idea

that after the stoppage, did you notice that Diego Lopez kneeled right next to Silva and started to talk to the team member? of Silva like he was like scolding them and I think Lord Silva kind of came to saw that and then got up and thought that he was you know whatever but separate from the theatrics that happened afterwards Silva's an emotional fighter and he got concussed probably I'm not going

to jump on him for that is this a complete referendum on who the fighting nerds are or did they just kind of explode too quickly and everyone kind of needs a humbling loss to continue to climb that ladder yeah I mean this is not the I mean if the team was like hey we're going to exist until Noce UFC, and then we're not going to exist anymore. You could judge what the team did, but it's not over. However, at the same time, I don't know how you can look at these results and come to any other conclusion then their success is not accidental. They are good, and they're a lot of fun.

I think that's very clear. I'm glad, dude, they brought a certain kind of levity with the glasses and the antics. Like all that part of the Fight Games theater is really fun, but if you guys want to be champions, well, clearly you're not ready. There's more to be done. So they're not frauds by any stretch of the imagination. They can beat guys certainly outside the top 15, and for the most part, outside the top 10.

But once you get to the top seven, they fall apart. They fall apart after that. They've got to work on more rassling. They've got to work on rassling. They have to work on a lot of other parts of their game. Let's see. There's some of them, not all of them, but many of them are still fairly young. They've reached their existing limit.

Can they change their limits? that's the question going forward. We got one more piece of Lopez talking about how he lured Gian Silva into that stop. No, bro, trust me. For you knocking me out, it's like it's so hard. I feel your point is like it's not too hard for the people watching the TV, you know? Because for this, okay, this guy pointed me, I take him for the confidence for this guy for the front. After this guy go to advance, I'm going to for a ball.

It's like this is my plan. I have videos in the backstage, bro. So that was the strategy this whole time. was to lure Jean Silva into thinking that he was connecting with you and then you were going to throw the spinning elbow. Yeah, because this guy, after connecting one punch, this guy had confidence to go for Finch. I have now time for finish, but it's not, no way to me.

I know the people know, the people don't have your idea at this, but every time it's still exposed your punch. This guy is standing a lot of your arms because this guy is the chin up. No, it's like it. I used this time for the spinnable. So he was overextending his punches. Yeah, yeah, every time. Look, I do think they needed a translator after that main event. I know Fabiano Busque was busy, and he did a tremendous job at the Crawford-Kinello event during all week.

Yeah, dude, they brought out the translating goat from the big dog. He delivered, believe me. I wish they would have had one afterwards just because Lopez was trying to talk to the crowd in Spanish and then was having trouble relate that. But he says those punches from the strikes from Silva were not affecting him. They were not hard. They looked pretty hard. I got to say, that's one of those things where it's like it wasn't very hard. Well, first of all, it looked that way.

And second of all, the judges would have scored it that way had it continued. No damage on his face. Or not much damage. Silva definitely looked worse. But, you know, you got touched up too. All right. Let's go to topic number five, which is the rest of this Noce ESPN card. Noce UFC card, which did air on ESPN and did end perfectly right before the main card of Conello

Crawford as UFC was double dipping on this night. But for starters, Luke, first and foremost, Noce UFC began as a non-paper view going up against a boxing pay-per-view when Chefchenko and Grasso had their rematch and a pretty good card. Evolved to the damn sphere last year in a paper view going head-to-head with Canelo. This year, we know the mitigating circumstances that led to it being moved out of Mexico, moved off a pay-per-view, put on earlier in the night. Would you like to see moving forward, however,

that if UFC's going to go to this level, and I like all the little touches that they do for Noce, from the outfits of the ring card girls to everything. I mean, they do... Graphics package. Right. Everything is pretty damn cool. Would you like to see this be a numbered event that gets priority? Can we forgive them for this year at just being sort of thrown in?

This was not a great card on paper in terms of what you'd expect. What do you think this should be moving on? I just don't know what Noce UFC means to UFC, right? Doesn't it mean UFC night, if you translate it? That's not what I mean. What I mean is how can it be that, like, one year, you got a title fight and then the next year it's like this gigantic event at the sphere and then the next year it's like I mean to answer that subtly turkey paid for that

massive event last year at the sphere now he's paying for this massive canello crawford fight I get it but I'm saying like UFC has to I here's what I would say I don't think it needs to be a numbered event not that I would complain if it was but what it needs to be is something consistent. What is it that, what, what does Noce UFC mean for UFC in terms of the card they build and the stakes involved? Because I do like the Mexican element of it. Yeah. I do like the story there. Again, to the way it changes the broadcast. I like all this stuff. I have no problem with any of it. In fact, I think it's a great thing that they're doing it. I just can't figure out what Noce UFC is other than sometimes it's a way to rebrand an ordinary fight night. Yeah. The

main event was great. I think this is a super fine main event. But one more time, all the previous Noce UFC events had title fights. This one didn't. And there weren't that many Mexicans on it. There were a fair amount of Latinos, but there weren't very many Mexicans on it. I don't know. Should it be an annual fight night in Mexico? Should it be an annual pay-per-view, regardless of whether you loaded up with Latin fighters? Like, what do you think it should be? Here's my opinion as a white guy who's not Latin, but is a fight fan. But you are a pseudo-Latino man. Sudo, very pseudo.

Pauzee, you know. Very suede, let's, you know, man. Very, very pseudo, very wannabe. I don't care when they put it. But as long as you're going to make it, make it consistent. Right? What's... No, you gave the same tone of when you said that you don't care if somebody lives or dies.

So I'm basically like, yeah, this is where it's at. Well, I just mean, like, could they put it in May or Cinco de Mayo, which I realize is an American holiday, not necessarily Mexican, but it's kind of a Mexican-American holiday or event to us? Could they put it there? could you put it any other night sure you could put it whenever you want like it doesn't have to be on september or may that's my only thing is whenever you do it have a some level of consistency for it remember that scene in cruel attentions when sarah michel gellar was like you can put it anywhere

i've never seen cruel intentions am i missing out oh wow wow i'm not missing out wow you are missing out that's what yeah thank you thank you come on yes especially for the 90s yeah what was the movie where denise richards kissed what's her face oh yeah uh wild things. Yeah, I saw that. I've seen wild things. Yeah, I've seen wild things. Also, Luke, this co-main event, we did not get Cheweewee's on there, but we did get a David Martina's filling in on late notice without a Wikipedia page to take on a resurgent veteran in Rob Font, who was a firm betting favorite coming in, yet the 27-year-old Martinez weathered the damage at times, outworked the veteran at times,

and picked up a pretty significant win for this portion of his career. How impressed were you by his extremely coming in on short notice against a guy who is you know not in his prime but very talented well-rounded tons of experience martinez looks fast he had great movement font had a hard time finding him i was you know dude this is what his second fight in ufc yeah and you're beating rob faunt at 27 years of age yeah that's a prospect to pay attention to there for sure long Alan Luke, we do appreciate your UFC knowledge. You had, you're an undercard type guy, and this guy was... Yeah, the more

irrelevant to the fighter, the more he likes them. And this guy was trying to get some relevance. What was your take on this performance? All right, we got to mention the curtain jerker, the tough finale. Daniel Duncanchanko got a nice finish on Rodriguez-Cenzanato. Yeah, we got to mention that, really? Thank you for editorializing that moment.

Someone told me on Thursday, they're like, on my life chat, they're like, do you realize there's an ultimate fighter finale? And I'm like, I had no fucking idea. Well, I'm not asking you to give me an undercard I'm trying to say With your undercard knowledge, Martinez stepping up and beating a guy like Font, were you moved by this?

Oh, yeah, I was. The line was interesting here because Rob Font was like minus 150 and it just gradually kept getting lower on fight night. David Martinez was plus 100 to Rob Fonts like minus 120. So someone sold the value in David Martinez.

Personally, I didn't. I took the over in this fight, which did hit. But yeah, David Martinez looks damn good, dude. Like Luke said, only two UFC fights too. I'm intrigued. And by the way, Luke Thomas, Sean Shelby was tasked with getting on the mic

and awarding the trophy to the ultimate fighter winner in the first. Yeah, although Hunter Campbell was there. I did see him in the audience. Interesting. Would you like him to become more of a talking head for UFC? Like at press conferences? Why, they've already got Max Kellerman. They've got David Shaw. I was saying for UFC. Yeah, they've already got Max Kellerman. Well, he's kind of carrying the turkey and the TK of water at the same time.

Oh, brother. He looks like he's got enough to juggle. Luke, speaking of carrying extra pounds, Kelvin Gasolm continued to miss Wade and badly did. did it once more for it. You know how much I love Kelvin, Kelvin Gasselin, but that was at middleweight, not even Walter weight, which he has a history of missing.

I don't know if his heavyweight era is in front of him, but Luke, they took the fight anyway. He lost a percentage of his purse, but he still gave it to Dustin Stolfes on the feet over three rounds. Nearly 30 fights into his UFC career. The weight issues continue to follow him.

What should the UFC do with him? Because he's on like a little bit of a resurgence. He still can make fun fights. I feel like he's going to be age 32, or less forever every time we check his age it's still not 35 you know what what what's what should we do with this i don't really know i'm not going to be one of these guys being like oh they should cut him i feel weird saying that but at the same time i do think there are some issues bc because dude you're i i know he took the fight on relatively short notice but don't take fights if you can't

make weight period sorry just don't that's the first thing i'm going to say like doing it this not making weight this far into your career is fucking insane but the problem is bc he is good enough and talented enough to still beat some decent guys, but there's a problem there too, which is his skill set was always pretty good, but somewhat limited in terms of like, you know, he wasn't going to submit you and he probably wasn't going to head kick you, you know, he's going to punch your lights out one way or the other, which he can still do, but I feel like that, the usefulness of that is still real, but starting to narrow a little bit. I mean, he stopped evolving his game years ago.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, is he still good enough to beat guys on the roster? Definitely. Sure. Definitely. But I don't, is he coming or going? I don't. How about a rematch with Izzy at Light Heavyweight? I mean, I'm kind of into that, you know.

Does he make the weight? I don't know. Oh, God. Talk to me about Alexander Hernandez because ever since he, dude, ever since he lit up day drinking Daddy Don Soroni, he's been sort of juggling two wins, two losses back and forth for a while now, still in his early 30s, but this makes it four straight as he finishes Carlos Diego for Heda, who's now 40s, a man.

But the bigger story is like, what? happened here? I mean, he's always looked apart. Has he figured it out? Yeah, I mean, the reality is he came onto the scene and he knocks out, Vinodary Ush and he beats OAM and you're like, oh my God, where the fuck this guy come from? Then he came to your point crashing back down to earth. How about this? And a lot of those were split decisions. A lot of them are split, but that's the point. Like there were neck and neck with guys and he looked, you know, there were dude, here were times he looked scared to throw and he couldn't get out of his own way and his defense looked bad. you know, now he has four wins in a row, three in 2025, and then two back-to-back months.

This is the best stretch of his career. Dude, his skill set has finally come together. He has good movement. He doesn't put himself in defensively liable positions in the same way that he used to. He knows how did he drop this guy with a punch coming in, which he timed and was ready for? Like, dude, he's got a lot of stuff, not everything, of course, but he's got a lot figured out. It took a long time for his game to gel. But I think it finally has, and the results kind of speak to that.

We got some sound from, I believe some sound here, from Alexander Hernandez, who he wants next. This would be a big one. This would be a big one. You called out Michael Chandler. If Michael Chandler is going to see this, I'm going to put this out there. What would you like to say to Michael Chandler to try and get him to, you know, get a fish on the line type? No, not the man.

I think it's a juicy fight. I think he'll bite on it. I love it. It's an exciting fight for the fans. I mean, it's a sick fight. It's a good time for it to happen, too. I think he's about it. You don't need too much.

Just, hey, man, sign on the dotted line. It's exactly what it is, bro. We've both been in this game long enough, man. I've got to sell nothing sweet. Is this still a big fight for it to have Chandler against you? Is that still a big thing? It would be for him. Yes.

I don't think that would be, I don't think that would, that's not a, yeah, that's a good fight for him. All right. I was keying in here on Tatiana Suarez coming off of that really bad. One side of title opportunity against Jean-Weili taking out a 38-year-old of Monda-Lemosh, and it would go down as a unanimous decision for, Tatiana, who had a lot of standing clinch control, ground control. We know that wrestling is her game. Unfortunately for her, though, she'd get a little bit beat up in that final minute

where Lamos got top position and was raining down strikes. Look, this division is not deep. I mean, Dern could be the champion next. So who, Tatiana could be one more win away from fighting for the title for all we know. But Tatiana's not young, and we've been waiting for this sort of breakout moment where the injuries are behind her and it comes together. Did you see enough on the feet that puts that title loss? behind her or was this sort of just

a matchup dependent win she got the job done? If anything, it made me think of the same problems. I mean, she won. Okay, that's good. That's definitely better than losing. But, I mean, there's a couple. I mean, the basic problem is this. When she first got into the division, B.C., they were calling her the female Habib. Yes. And you might be like, oh, they're clearly were overestimating. Well, in a sense, yes. But at the time, it didn't feel all that crazy. She was mawling. It was great and tough. She came through that. I think the injuries and the time off and the age.

as well as the general best practices of MMA getting better defensively. Like, it's harder to wrestle people now than it used to be, but also the age, also the injuries, also the time off. I think it has irreparably damaged her. She's still good enough to win. She seems like a lovely person. So I feel bad saying some of this stuff, but I'm just trying to be honest about the assessment.

She got the win. She deserved the win, but I didn't see anything from this being like, oh, it was kind of fluky what happened against Jean Wai Li. No. I don't see enough evolution of the striking. But more than that, the evolution of the wrestling isn't there either. Like her wrestling, if anything, has kind of regressed.

I mean, she still could win a title in the right matchup by leaning into her strengths. I don't think that's impossible to say. Well, now that the champ, well, the former champ is now gone. Yes, it opens things up. But, you know, would there be a dominant rain? I just don't see that. Did anything else on this card, top to bottom, move you?

Because I want Long Island Luke's thoughts, because you know he cares. I want to move it, move it. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship.

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why was he on this card why is he in the ufc it makes no sense whatsoever beyond that though, I leave the rest to Long Island Luke. Yeah, Long Island. What do you got for us? Oh, no, I love my girlfriend. I just want to say the card itself, great pacing, dude. They had eight prelums. The pacing was insane.

Eight prelims in only three hours, which is usually like six fights. Was that a message from the top to not bump into the Netflix card? Yes, and no. I think they just packed the prelims tight, so they had to really run through those. Then I think, yes, B.C. on the main card, they were like, keep this shit going quick. But either way, it just felt like a fight was ending. Next fight was in there. so I enjoyed my time, but the part itself, you know,

are we going to come out of this with any new prospects? Not so much. David Martinez, that's about it. Wow, that was very succinct. And, you know, wow, okay, that's your five topics right there. Well, I didn't want to tell you folks, though, that this podcast is also sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of the UFC.

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for new subscribers applies only to the monthly rate for your plan additional terms apply see the website for details yeah right well i don't know why i'm that happy okay hey it's time for other fans to have a voice luke every sunday night we give you that option at morning combat on x and instagram well let me guess flannels and jits telvin key pop uh who else you got anybody else um a man in his cat i like that guy I don't know. Yeah, it looks like I hope they all die. Hey, here's DMs from thongs.

That's pretty gross, guys. That's pretty gross. Let's hear from our first willing participant. This is for... Resenzo Fano. Cresenjo Fano says, was Saturday the best combo of UFC and boxing fights held on one night ever? No.

No, I don't think so. I mean, the way it was presented was great because there was no overlap. So it was like, oh, we get to. watch this and then watch this. But we've seen a lot of head-to-head stuff in the past. Just how about the Sphere Noche card up against Canelo Berlongo, which I'm not saying was like the most

wildly anticipated fight ever, but it was still Canello on, you know, much of me. Also Canello and then Diazv and Masvedal card as well. Yeah, Canelo Kovala and then Zone made that decision. Crawford Spence was the same night as Gae BMF, Dustin Prolet. That's a sick ass night. Holy shit.

Yeah, that's got to be your answer. At least my immediate recollection. Pacio Marquez three was the same night as the UFC on Fox debut with JDS versus Kane for the heavyweight title. That's right. But that was also the Fox card ended just early enough before the pay-per-view.

Yeah, something like that. But there's been a bunch of them, to your point. Yeah, good question. Good question. Hopefully we gave you a good answer. Let's hear it from our next, from at Sol 619. Hey, hey, what does Mysterio say?

Hmm? Ray Mysterio. How the fuck would I know? How does that song go? How does this song go in Osceida? Lick my balls. I don't know shit about that. I got, lick my bowl.

Okay, sorry, have the fighting nerds officially been exposed or will they rebound and still have title aspirations? They would further ask here, Soul, 619. Buyaca, Buyacca, 619. That's where I was going with that. Boy, I look like an asshole. Is Gian Silva still the most likely to get a title shot, or is it Kyle Boholio, Mauricio, Huffy, Carlos, Prattes? It's got to be Prattesh. People were asking, like, who had the worst loss of these four?

And I don't know how anyone can say the answer is anything other than Hoofie. because did Jayon Silva get beat up real bad in this fight? Yes, and in particular in that first round. But then he kind of came back in the last minute of the first round and then was doing real well in the second round. Hoofee didn't do shit against BSD. Clearly his is the worst, even though he didn't get beat up as bad. Kyle at least made it to a number one contender fight.

That's something. Prochast has already rebounded from a loss. It looked pretty good doing it. What about Bruna, Brazil? Long Island thinks she's part of the fight. She is. She is. Women's MMA is in a tough spot

I'm not, you know, what do you want me to tell you? And then, oh, look, Shishik is on the rebound, but he hasn't got like a super pronounced win at this point against a big name. So I would say I still have some hope for Silva, but these fuckers need to get it together. I mean, Prattash is peaking, I guess you could say off that win. He's sort of pointing forward above all of them.

He certainly looked real good in the rebound. I'll say that. Yeah, okay. Like you on the train when you're crowning, he's the guy that's like sticking out. I did not take a dump on the train. to that. I don't want to talk about that anymore. Next question, please, from the fans.

This is that the MMA poster came. You ever rug one out on an airplane? Okay, why? Why are we doing this? Where does Tatiana Suarez go from here? Now, we did talk about her victory and sort of the limitations. She's 35 later this year. I mean, but to be fair, I think

she needs one more win. Imagine a scenario where either Werner or Dern wins. She's in that fight, right? Yeah, I think with, you know, again, with the champ leaving and what's left, I don't, if I'm her, you, again, I did not look at the win at Lamotia is particularly inspiring. Yes. But it's a win. And she's still a name. And there's still some relevance there.

Keep going. See if you can get another title shot. It's not out of the realm of possibility. Long Island, Luke, I know I'm normally this strawweight guy, but there really hasn't been a lot of business at strawweight in a while. Is there like a rising future title contender or champion that we don't talk about? No. No, dude. Women's am amazing. If she doesn't get a title shot, she's fighting the loser. She's fighting Janjo. Why is women's MMA in such bad shape? What he should do an expose? There used to be a big difference.

We'd be like, women's MMA is so much better than women's boxing. Women's MMA is regressing to women's boxing. Right. I don't know. I really don't know what the answer is because what made it, I'm just like looking back considering how toxic the MMA world is, MMA fans like attached to women's MMA right away and said,

no, this is good. This is really good. It wasn't just for like sexualized reasons, you know? Like you had a big star in Ronda. you had really competitive fights that were fought hard. Even with the lack of finishes compared to the men's game, like there were elite fighters and you could see that. That is going down.

Yeah, I don't know, but it's in bad shape. Maybe, is it only because there was two divisions back then? Now, there's four, I guess, three, maybe. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know. Next question, please. This is from at TVGCMMA. What's your fondest memories of Ricky Hatton?

Oh, man. Oh, I forgot. I was supposed to bring that up earlier. A really tough loss that came pretty soon after the Crawford. victory over Canello to find out that 46-year-old. I don't know if he, is he in the Hall of Fame? Ricky? I'm not sure he will be if he's not. Ricky Hatton, who of course, rose, you know, beating Koste Zhu on Showtime in England for the

title and then rising from there to go into superfights with Floyd, with Pacquiao, in which he was stopped in both of those. He is in the Hall of Fame. He is in the Hall of Fame would retire. I remember, like, his Hall of Fame thing was, I guess, somewhat borderline based on the resume but then you look at the impact he had and you know getting himself into those super fights with uh with floyd and in manny um he was such a joyful vibrant personality remember when hpo 24-7 was so young and those episodes with him and floyd were just

hilarious because he didn't take himself or the situation overly serious there's a famous story of him it's not about him per se but just kind of told you about the like the energy around Hatton was that when Hatton fought Mayweather, the Brits traveled to support him and they drank the MGM dry of alcohol. Yes. That's a real thing that happened.

Karen Mulvaney always relays that story. Happened at like Thursday afternoon or Friday morning of fight. They drank that fucker dry. Every single restaurant and provider was, they were out. They were waiting on the delivery. I mean, you got to say like, did you got a real fan base when they can do something like that? And I think he fit, he was the poster boy,

for that fan base, not just because his style was all about aggression, fast-paced, throw as many punches, wasn't a big puncher, but would just, he was a true Manchester guy, yeah. And live the lifestyle of, you know, honest, hard worker, guy that like to drink, like to party. Blue collar. I don't think we know what happened to him at this point. I mean, it doesn't seem great, but we don't know. Doesn't seem great. His son Campbell had been fighting for a while, and I think he just stopped fighting as well. But he leaves, I mean, he's a Hall of Famer, first of all, he's one of the most beloved fighter second of all. And I think anyone that just watched him from his fighting style to the way he carried

himself, he was relatable, he was joyful. It's, this is a really sad thing that sort of snuck in at a time when we're talking up Terence Crawford and all this, rightfully. So we didn't even get into Inouye, Nyewa Inouye defending his championships on Sunday. But it aired on Top Rank's Facebook page. What the fuck. And he fought a really tough opponent in Murdojohn Akhmadalev, MJ, the former unified champion. And he outboxed him thoroughly over 12.

rounds and maybe shows you that at his age, I don't know if Inouye should go to 126, but there's going to be big fights coming. Junto Nakatani is moving up. Inouye is supposed to be back in December against David Allen Picasso with Junto Nakatani making his debut at 122 on the

undercarus. So one more and then they could make the Nakatani show down. And then could ban Rodriguez show up soon after that for a big fight. We'll see. But it's not like we're trying to avoid Naya in a way, but they kind of buried this fight, you know, from an American standpoint, as as low as possible in light of Cinello Crawford.

It's unfortunate, but it's true. We love Inouye. He's one of the best in the world and the era. Again, very, very strange. You always get like Bud and Inouye performing on similar weekends. Sure. All right. What else we got here from the fans?

This is from at MT. Booble. One has to go. This is tough. 90s rap or 70s rock. I mean, for folks I might be asking, like, what would count a 70s rock, Led Zeppelin? I think in totality of the 1970s, Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, David Bowie.

Progressive rock, jazz fusion, David Bowie. Like, there was, you know, there was so much going on in the 70s that the more I own rapid in my vinyl journey, I am just blown away. Also, the movies of the 1970s are some of the best movies ever made. Daniel Snyder's nephew and I have been going through the 70s neo-noir library for... Versley's Enter the Dragon, 1974. Dude, I just watched, what 70s movie did I watch the other day? Oh, actually, it's an early 80s movie, but it's of that 70s motif. It's Thief, starring James Con.

Just such a gritty, yeah, thank you. It's so, oh, God. James Con was a beast. Yes, and I saw Jaws for the first time in 3D in the theater with my son. That was like 76 or 75, and I never, I just didn't know how awesome that one was. Yeah. So I, 90s hip-hop, getting rid of that seems unfathomable to me, right? Biggie, Jay-Z, Nas, Buster Rhymes, Tribe, Dre, Snoop, Easy.

I mean, and even before that, Rakim, I mean, I don't even know, Cyprus Hill, like foundational acts of hip-hop, big pun, you know, I can go on and on. I mean, that was the decade that really, it started in the 80s, but the 90s made it not only commercial, but you start to see, like, the true craft legends of it come out, as you're mentioned. It depends upon preference. I'm more of a rock guy than I'm a rock guy than I'm a rock. rap guy, so I'm going to let 90s rap go, but 90s hip hop was the absolute mountain top peak

from Nas to Biggie to Tupac to the public enemy in the beginning through Wu-Tang. I mean, good, Jay-Z. I'll just say personally losing 70s rock would be slightly easier, but even that is a troublesome. Yeah, but luckily they didn't put, you know, 2010's abortion rock in here. That would have been a tough? If you did tug one out on a plane, would you count that as the mile high club? That is, this is the mile. Would you count it?

No, maybe the half-mile club, you know? Maybe that, but, uh, no, I'm not, I'm not looking to enter any of those clubs there. That's it, Long Island. Look, right enough of that shit. Speaking of shit, um, right? We're good? Yeah, that's it. All right, thank you. If you've got cake lady today, I'm going to jump across this table. No cake lady, but you can reach the show, by the way, at morningcombat at gmail.com,

although we had a special live, hey, shot with our live episode on Friday that we did. Yeah, it was fun. That was really fun. I know it was only an hour, but that was, uh, really fun. Thank you guys. It felt like old times on the road, right? Yes. Yeah, you're like, I'm done with the show already.

All right, morning combat at gmail.com, get your fans, get your dead wrongs on Friday. The final segment we have is where we pick through the kernels of my fecal area to find the weirdest, wildest, and outrageous videos of the week in an effort to make Luke Thomas a moat. This is called, Have You Seen this show? That sounds like Al Pacino and son of a woman, right? Yeah, all right. That's how you debate, right? That was that scene at the end of this way.

Yeah, that's sick. All right, hey, let's go to Canello, Crawford, and Vegas. All the stars were out. Who did Canello have in his locker room? Luke's dream. Sophia Vergara came in and embraced. What do you think Mrs. Canello in the background is thinking here? Get this.

Get this harlot out of my side. What do you think Canello was thinking right there? Yeah. Jamama, Bud would not be outdone. How about the Bayou Barbie, Angel Reese? coming in. Now, the height difference was, was massive here. But the one next to her, it's the next batty, that one. Oh, you can't see on this angle. But it's actually the friend that Angel

Reese introduces. She was the, well, Angel Reese is also a very attractive lady as well. So a lot of star power there. We also had Mike Tyson, Mr. Beast, and Turkey going through shenanigans to promote the fight. This was during the undercard. I want to be clear one more time. I don't need to hear or see Turkey ever. Well, he's everywhere. He's on everything, Luke, okay? You cannot It's like no part of the broadcast is improved with his inclusion. Yeah, he's very heavy-handed in his choices as well, Luke. He's something. Also, Turkey's new innovation, the AI ring judge scored the fight on Saturday.

114 to 114, Luke, a draw. It's like, dude. By the way, people think that this is the Jabber AI thing that they used previously. It is not. It is their own proprietary thing. This is by hate AI. The Jabber one had Terrence winning. The Jabalwaukee's?

Yeah, the Jabberwark. Oh, Turkey also put out a tweet, shouting out good old Versace, Rick Reno, looking like... Bro, tell me this doesn't look like a little kid that got dressed by his dad and his dad wanted his little kid to be a pimp for Halloween. Good Lord. Rick, buddy, we love you. You seem like a very nice guy. I don't know you. You're not cool.

Oh, wow. This doesn't make you cool. BC, here's the truth about that. I'm also not cool. Yeah, I mean, he's playing a character, but it's outrageous. I mean, it looks like a, like, Liberace and Joe Gusson's love child in that outfit, right? It's like there's a lot of denim. There's some, there's some bedazzling going on.

You can wear that again, Rick, if you're going to go trick-or-treating. But other than that, you've got to let it go, bud. That's the only time Turkey's humor is actually funny when he's, like, putting out tweets like that. Like, we've got to have a discussion about old Versa. Okay, I agree with that. Yeah. But all the fighters always try to be like, no, Turkey's really cool. He's funny.

Turkey, they're not here to hang out with you like you think they are. You think Turkey? Okay. You know, I don't want to get in too much trouble, but we'll leave it at that. Why, on American soil? It's not even that. It's just about, you know, people are sensitive these days. They are very sensitive.

All right. Hey, otherware, elsewhere, sorry, in MMA, LFA main event. Gable Steven made his pro debut and he didn't need long. This is shot from the crowd, not the broadcast, of course. John Jones in his corner. Yeah, John making it all about him. Celebrating. So Gable got basically an instant takedown.

It didn't take long. Yeah. Well, you know, he is an Olympic gold medalist and national champion in wrestling. wrestling, so I can't imagine that the, you know, the guy that they had against him was all that ready for the challenges. Do you think, Gabe? I'm so glad to see his turf toe cleared up so fast, you know, because he had that turf toe and he couldn't do the Craig Jones Invitational, but all of a sudden, it looked great to me. So I was so, I'm really happy that that turf toe went away so fast. Will Gabe will be making his UFC debut at the White House?

Will he get the Bo-Nichael treatment of just, like, sped up matchmaking? I guarantee he does. He will need two, three. We had this debate before in a different segment, but, like, we don't know how good he. But, I mean, that was, there was ease in which he did that. Yeah, I mean. It was heavy ground upon, but he was fighting, he's fighting the guy that makes your sandwiches at Subway. Yeah, you know, he was finding definitely a sandwich artist.

Okay. He was a mixed martial artist, fighting his sandwich artist. And most of those sandwich artists, or at least Jared is known for really bad. Okay. I mean, sandwich artists are nice people. Do they make delicious food? Be nice. Let's check in on pro football, all right?

The green dildos have hit the NFL. I repeat, the WMBA Green Dildos. You know, at first I thought this was like some terrible thing that they were throwing the green dildos on the WNB Court. It was like, oh, this is some kind of anti-woman thing. Yeah. But it's a crypto scam that they use for crypto advertising. So now they're just throwing it everywhere. It's not even just W&A.

Well, this weekend, it happened a second time, but check out this dude trying to, okay, sir. Can you please? This is BC kind of pack his luggage. Can you please pull up those pants, sir? I didn't need to see all it. Crack kills, all right? And now for your NFL over-the-shoulder movement. of the week. Watch this.

You know what? Okay. Well, you know what? I've been caught a time or two doing that. I'm not going to hit on this gentleman. That guy's like, damn. Yeah, I've done that too, friend. I've been there. We only have one piece of elder abuse this week and it came via the sport of soccer,

a little footy action. Nice moves right there. Doesn't look like messy. Oh, God. Okay, okay. Take that. Grandma did not deserve that. Poor.

This, this week in Marab, Luke, Noce Marab, uh, was on the scene in San Antonio, dressed just like the people. Look at that. He saw it. Dude, he's, he's like, this is from the last noche. It is. Oh, it is. Oh, all right.

Read the lower. He's still the number one contender. Shouldn't he be the, say, I got fooled. I got M. Wait, he fought at the last nochay. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So two noches ago?

You're right. You're right. It must be two. Yeah, last fight, Henry Sehudo. Okay. I got fooled. But with that said, he should be the UFC's mascot. Isn't he hilarious?

hilarious is a strong word but he's certainly animated all right here is him from this noce when he went full lucha librae he's in fight shape he is the definition of extra you know what i mean okay well here's marab and his friends playing a new sport called rock baseball your thoughts on me i don't think this is a good game what are we doing here I hit dingers. Good job. Take him down. Nice.

Elbow. Maybe that's good training. Nice. Double jeff. Nice. Knee. Choke. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, motherfucker. Yeah. He's extra, bro. He's in a good way, but he's extra. There were more M.M.A. Fighters in the wild. I think this is filmed in Connecticut.

Here's Sean Strickland getting a little chama grill. with Glover and Pareda. Chamo no Chama. Hey. Hey, O Gloval. The guy, the guy, he's going to do a chorasco good for us there.

What's he said? I'm Texas. He's a steakhouse. Yeah, I'm real bad guy. He's real bad here. Chama, chama, chama. Chama, chama. I mean, I mean,

I don't know. Like, is there any part to you that is, like, says maybe if you had to hang with Strickland by the grill that you would, like, laugh and have an okay time? No. People of different varieties can have common ground breaking bread. I'll say that. Okay.

We went jacked up this week, but not on the NFL pitch. Let's go to college. Here is LSU coach Brian Kelly in the Florida. Okay, wow, that is, sir, you got jacked up. That is. Wasn't even that bad. That'll hurt. He'll feel that in the morning.

He'll feel that because he's ancient probably. You sent me this video from Newark, New Jersey. New Bond villain has been unlocked. They call him the Newark Samurai. this shit you see fucking up you got a motherfucking samurai hold up

look at this shit here can't make this shit the fuck up dude that's the most Newark thing ever dude that guy needs to patrol at Newark Penn Station oh my Lord just clean up over there all right wow uh let's go over to the airplane edibles

Luke knows about this in fact Luke sent me this look you're showing up twice on here look at this guy Flying high all right. Yo, my man. That is flying on Delta in row nine, motherfucker. Whoa. Show that one more time.

Look at him just chewing like a cow with his mouth open. Look at this. Lying high again. Zooted, bro. Come on and join. Yeah, throw back a bottle of beer on that one. Zootzoo Riot. Hey, let's go over to the car.

They've got carny workers, Luke. You got carny workers. Watch the gentleman working this event. Be careful. yeah right in the pills brother right in the pills is that do you think that's the worst job you can have to be like a traveling carny is that like the lowest of lows where you're still employed you have a place to live on the road but like what's that lifestyle yeah i mean plus you're not making that much that's rough um okay uh this week in vehicular manslaughter

let's go to this race oh christ oh jesus oh gas no breaks oh my god Jesus. Wow. Drive fast all gas on that one, right? That's the, that look... Skits and me. That looked worse than the land mooning. You know what I mean?

I mean, if that even happened, right? That must, yeah, all right. All right, all right. All right. Time for your t-shirts of the week here, Luca. I mean, relatable, right? Forte Pounder 69. That's a classy fellow.

Okay. All right. Let's go over to Ted Lassow over here. Great show. Better T-shirt. Fixing to Lassow that asso. at last. Oh, okay. We'll keep it going here, Luke. Let's go over to DJ. All right, all right. Osama Spin Laden. He's a DJ. That's not bad. All right. And here's the best shirt of the weekend. Luke, I'd love to see you in this one.

Theo Vaughn ate my ass in an Arby's parking lot. You know, there is a lot of sin that goes down in an Arby's parking lot. Yes. It can't be as fun as these jerseys of the week, though. What a great segment I put together here. Would you wear this, Luke? COVID-19, that's a certain commitment to the bit. All right, here comes a great nightmare, blunt rotation. Would you hang out with these guys? Ray Lewis, Aaron Hernandez, and O.J. Simpson. No, you know what? I don't know if I'm making it out of that room alive.

Here's the best jersey we found this week. You know, it was, it was, you know, never forget. Never forget 9-11. That is something. A lot going on there. Look, you ever see like an old 80s toy or piece of, you know, something that just triggers all this like nostalgia that you never course like you forgot was there this happened to me for this phone check it out guys

I have to show you what I got today ca-chow are you kidding me and when you pick up the phone look at he wakes up isn't that so cool yeah they hit the second tower very nostalgic look it's amazing to me that like you know I'm not that I'm in any way prescribing it or condoning it but like people you know talking about the death of Charlie Kirk. People get very sensitive. And that's how it was after 9-11.

You could not make jokes about it. But now you can just joke about 9-11. I mean, it's very insensitive, but I'm just trying to show you the video. People just joke about 9-11 now. Speaking of New York City, it is a lot like regional MMA, right? Anything can happen. Let's go to the subway. This is what we're going to see in a few moments, Luke.

Brother, look at the Parmesan cheese. She's grating over your plate of spaghetti. How much to eat a little piece of that skin? Oh, my God. that's disgusting. That is so disgusting. Let's go over. Bro, what the fuck? I don't know. I don't know. Let's go to the highway. I have to say I've done this before.

Yep. All right. There is. That's not the highway. That's, that's midtown Manhattan. Oh, yeah, brother. Yeah, have another one there. All right. Okay. Oh, yeah. Let's keep it going here. You want to run in the streets in New York. You got to be careful. I'm feeling good. I wish you your heart. Yeah, I used to run track. Now I smoke crap.

That's a New Yorker if I've ever seen one. All right. Would you ever have a blind date with a girl named Katrina, Luke? I don't like where this is going. What's your name? My name's Katrina. Nice, like the hurricane, RIP, all those people. My parents were going to name me 9-11, but...

You could check out this third tower, huh? Ooh, okay. Sweet. I'll just be a plane. Okay, all right. We need sensors on this show, clearly. There's a drive-by shooter when you need one. All right.

I got one more for you, Luke. let's check this out. Good morning. Would you like some tea? Oh, my. That's what the people are talking about on the internet this week. I hope you saw it, Luke. Oh, my.

I mean, one bag or two, Luke. Oh, I'd revolt. Yeah. The internet wins again. show for the week um uh wow i'm literally traumatized by that i've seen some traumatic things in the last week i'm sure you have as well yeah yeah that might be the worst i don't know but that might be the worst all right

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Give us a subscription. Tell a friend. Spread it. All right. And support our YouTube channels as well. Long Island, Luke, what do you have to say for your YouTube channel this week? Nothing going on really this week. I was supposed to work yesterday, so I'm not doing a contender series stream tomorrow. Gaff is, though, so go check that out.

What's Gaff's channel? XFC this weekend. I'm going to Vegas to comment. Hell yeah, Luke. What day? Friday, Saturday. Saturday. I think the main card starts at 9 p.m.

It'll be on BIN Sport. Yeah. I think that's right. I think you can also watch it on YouTube, but you have to pay. Yes, you can't watch it if you become like a member of the, XFC YouTube channel. Okay. I'll tweet out all the ways to watch.

You and Johnny... Johnny LaCosto, yeah. And I think Jessica Aguilar is going to be there as well. A great team right there. Long Island, Luke, what's Gaff's channel? One more round fight, so go check that out. I'm going to check out Gaffney, Jim Pierre, a long-time supporter of the show. We'll have a new episode Prop Quiz Friday to find out who faces B.C.

So, Luke, did you see the episode that I took... It's like an accidental win. I accidentally beat Mike. You did? I did. And I was on the way. If I could have remembered who was Justine Kish's opponent when she shit her pants and I'm like seeing Felice Herrick the whole time. It was Felice Herrick? Yeah. And I just couldn't come up with the name because I'm old. I would have actually blown him out. But I did. You are a formidable competitor. Thank you very much. Some people are wondering if I can win this whole thing now. I would not. I'm not going to count you out. You know, I'm always going to root for the guy that beat me. So I got to go for you.

Thank you very much. Unless it was, you know, non-consensual. I don't know if you're still chairing for that guy, all right? Hey, that's the show for the week for LT. I cannot believe that old lady with the tea. That is the worst thing I've ever seen. Yeah. Hey, thank you to our guys filling in for Ken and a deer today as well. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Do you think they have marijuana in their system? I hope so. Maybe we can get a close contact high. That's the show. Take care of yourselves. We're out of here. Ah, come on.

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