MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Dana White Media Tour | Kayla Harrison Out vs Nunes | PFL 2026 Plans | Gervonta Davis Arrest Warrant

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Luke Thomas is joined by Oscar Willis on a Friday edition of Morning Kombat to go over the latest in combat sports. The Dana White media tour continues. LT and Oscar discuss White's recent interviews and what it all means. Kayla Harrison is out of UFC 324 on Jan. 24, apologizing to Amanda Nunes on a video she posted. And Gervonta "Tank" Davis made the headlines for all the wrong reasons, with an arrest warrant issued for the boxing champion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Okay, we got to get that updated. What are we doing? Hello, everyone. I enjoyed that very much. Yeah, it was fine for the first one back without him, but now it's like, all right, we got to get this updated. All right. Welcome, everyone on this 16th day of January, 2026. My name is Luke Thomas and welcome to another edition of Morning Combat.

As you can see on the other side of your screen is my friend from the Mac Life. Town drunk probably has meth coursing through his veins as we speak. It's Oscar Willis. What's up, buddy? Thank you very much for having me. Congrats on the new show and the new format. Obviously, the intro is, it's like listening to Brian as if he was here, just voices from the devil. He sounds like the teacher and Charlie Brown whenever he's talking. I just tune him out. You know what I mean? Text me because otherwise, I'm not listening. We have a fun show plan for you guys today. Obviously, there still is no MMA. However, that is coming, or no UFC, I should say. And that is coming to a close next week. So we do have some news that we're going to react to here on today's show. We're also going to look a little bit ahead to 2026 for the PFL and a few fun things in between. The third member of the program here is my friend and yours from Long Island. This is where Brian Campbell would bring up the fact that, well, his dad had a bunch of sex.

It's long island with Luke. I don't think he talked about how he had a bunch of sex. He was horned up, Luke. You got to get it right. Congratulations to Mr. Long Island. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Welcome to the program, gentlemen.

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Morningcombat.combat.combe dot shop is the place to be. Long Islandluck, come back for just a second. I want to set up today's show. As I mentioned, we're doing our traditional five topics, as well as we're doing a couple of new ones. Why don't you tell the audience what we're doing? Correct. So first new one, we'll call it new in parentheses, because I feel like you guys have done this before. We're just an old higher or lower.

Going to give the boys a couple, you know, random things, some MMA things. Let me know, higher or lower. What would you choose here? All opinion-based. And then we're going to do a segment called What's My Age again, in which we're going to show you a current UFC fighter. I think there's one, actually, that's not current. But either way, some MMA fighters, you guys are going to guess their age. If you get it wrong, you then have to rate a bad tattoo.

So it should be fun. of those things where I see Max Holloway is younger than me and I want to kill myself. Is this like one of those sort of things? No, but there's some like people that look old and you're like, oh, they're actually pretty young, you know. We're disrespecting them. Okay. Yeah, exactly. Little Nog has had a face like a catcher's mitt for 20 years.

You know what I mean? He was 13 and looked 50. Some people just don't age all that well. Oscar, it is your neck of the woods. It's just 807 a.m. Is this the earliest you've gotten up in Las Vegas? ever. Oh, no, I've been up at this time. I just haven't been to bed before it. You know what I mean? Usually this is about the time I'm getting into here the birds chirping, but today I started

strong with a coffee instead of something else that begins with C. Yeah, coffee with a C-O-U-G-H-A-Postrophe Y. You took a vacation. You went back to the UK. Did you not? I did. I went back to London, saw my parents reminding myself why I don't live there anymore. It was good. In fact, It's actually, I went out in London on New Year's Eve, and a man did threaten to stab me. So it is true what they say. It's right over there. But it was good. I feel refreshed.

I think we're all sort of getting to the stage now of the time off where we need shit to talk about. So I'm quite happy the UFC's back next week. But it's been good and refreshing. I was going to say the first couple of weeks of this UFC hiatus, everyone was like posting memes of like some guy, you know, dying in the desert of thirst. And I got to be honest, I don't see as many of those. Now, to your point. I do think people are ready for a return to the action. And of course, next week it will be back.

But I'll say I've enjoyed the break. I'm not, I don't feel like I'm suffering by the absence. I'm ready to get back to it. But I'm not like, oh, how am I going to make it through the night, you know? Yeah, I think by the time April rolls around, I'll be wishing I was back here. So I don't want to like shit on the break we've had. I think it's, you know, the UFC is the machine. MMA is now a machine.

It's just every single week. I actually think they should more breaks is better. because it makes you miss the product. Do you know what I mean? I think we'll get into all this stuff, but like Kayla Harrison falling out, right, that's a big blow to the card. But I think people that don't really care

because they're just like, well, at least we still have MMA. You know, so I think breaks are good, and long may they continue. Bring them more. I certainly would agree with that. All right, put up our socials here on the screen, if you can.

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I don't want to join the Third Reich. Yeah. Yeah, the Third Reich is alive and well on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, four. Yeah, that's right. I mean, well, remnants of the third, I suppose, but the Phoenix of the fourth. Say again? The outfits are the same. I saw this guy with a big trench go yesterday. Look great.

Yeah, good back on. Wonderful. Well, there you have it. So that's the plan for the day. Those are our socials. Again, one more time, morning combat.shop. We are having a sale on the posters because they were slightly damaged. But we'll get those to you if you are so interested. And, of course, these will only last until the end of the month. All right, with that in mind, let's get things going here and start our five topics of the day. Topic number one, if we can here, pull my notes up, excuse me, very quickly.

So the UFC on Paramount Era, it hasn't officially begun, although it has kicked off. And you've seen, for example, they've launched their own YouTube channel. And what's interesting about it is that UFC president or CEO Dana White has absolutely been making the media rounds. You actually cannot argue he has not been visible. He's been on a bunch of different places. He was on complex. He was on barstool. He was on CBS proper.

He's been doing a lot of, he's on Stephen A. Smith. I could go on. You get the idea. He's just been in a lot of places. But there has been something of an observation. Maybe even you could say a criticism, dogging him has been happening basically, during the course of this media blitz, namely that he just seems a little checked out, maybe even a little passionless. Maybe you could argue that he's just kind of over it all at this

point. So are these criticisms fair, Oscar, or is it much ado about nothing? Now, before you answer that, I just want to pay attention to something. We're going to look at a clip here. we are going to react to the news of the main event a little bit later in the show. But to kick things off, this was Dana White's announcement of UFC Seattle. This is not necessarily part of the media tour, but it's emblematic of the kind of thing you're getting on these media opportunities. Let's take a look first. Seattle, we're coming back. We're back on March 28th to the Climate Pledge Arena.

The main event, former middleweight champion, Israel Adasanya, versus Joe Pfeer. Adasanya, former two-time middleweight champ, 16 of his 24 wins by knockout, and Joe Piper is on a three-fight win streak. And since winning the contender series, all but one of his wins have come by finish. Also on the card, we have former champ Alexa Grasso facing Mesa. Macy Barber. Grasel is currently ranked number three in the flyweight division and is the first female ever Mexican UFC champion. Number five ranked Macy Barber is on a seven-fight win streak. She's second all-time in flyweight history for wins, knockout, and win streak only behind Valentina Shivshanko.

Okay. So there you have it. Oscar, I'm going to reiterate, excuse me, reiterate my question. Are the criticisms fair or is this much to do about it? nothing. What do you think? I don't think it's much to do about nothing. But it just sort of, in my opinion, depends what you're expecting from Dana at this point. You know, like the reaction to this announcement was everyone freaking out that it wasn't, you know,

they were waiting 12 hours just for this and stuff like that. For me, I feel like MMA fans sometimes need to manage their expectations in that regard. You know, I remember UFC 300 Khabib was going to fight GSP. And then inevitably when the real announcement comes, they're always disappointed. So I think that's an element of this, is that people are expecting the world

and the world's not there to deliver. In terms of Dana himself, it's a tough one, right? Because the Dana White brand has probably never been stronger, particularly with his relationship to the administration. But what that means is he now has his fingers in so many pies.

I feel like he's kind of spread too thin and he doesn't have like the attention dollars to sort of give his best to that brand. And I think the UFC is part of that. You know, he does seem very tired. He's like 56 years old. He's been doing this for 30 years. So I think anyone's interest is going to be slightly less than it was.

But you kind of need the head of the company to be interested or fake it. I think the issue with this one in particular was, you know, they want to announce these fights themselves so the media don't break it. Which I get. That's like their USP. Like that's what the UFC has an advantage over everyone else is they can announce the stuff. So I understand why they would want to announce it. I just think when he's got so much shit to do in the day that the best announcement he can give you is clearly reading a piece of paper behind the phone. It's just not effective. I think it's much

more, it would make much more sense than to put a video package together and roll that out as an announcement instead. So I don't understand why they haven't pivoted from these announcements. I get it. But I definitely see, I don't know if it's disinterest or he doesn't care anymore, but I definitely see a guy who's just got too much shit to do and can't focus and give this the attention that he once did, I guess is what I would say. I have a few thoughts on this. But the first one is, I'm not saying that this is what I would want, but one of the things that kind of irks me a little bit is you just know that there could be more because we've seen more, right? It's not like this has been what it's always been and it just feels differently now. This is less than what it had been.

To your point, you used to give this stuff to media reporters and they would put it on social media and it would blow up. Let me ask you a question. I'm being quite serious about this. One of the most successful programs, and I'm being absolutely genuine when I say this, that the UFC, has put together, particularly in the last few years, has been their way-in show on Fridays for whatever they roll that out. Now, I'm not saying you can do that because you can plan that for weeks. It's going to be at a fixed time. You know, you have everyone in town. It's a lot easier to do that for any number of reasons. What I am going to say is, couldn't they work out a deal with

any local media in Vegas and then have a UFC announcement show that they could roll out? Or you could even have in-house staff who were in Vegas, whatever, however you want to apportion it and then have it staffed and then have an immediate reaction show where Danny could come on there, but then they're hyping it up and they're making it big and they're, you know, they're getting the sparklers and everything. Isn't that a possibility? Something where you're putting in that same kind of relative effort into your own programming, if that's what you want to do is keep it in-house. Yeah, certainly, listen, I don't think they're ever going to give it to the media, but in-house, you would say that's easily doable. I also think while we're

just sitting here. I was like, man, it's kind of weird they don't just pre-record a Zoom thing like we're doing right now with Izzy and Joe Pfeher and have them react to the announcement together, you know what I mean? It's not that hard to coordinate. I understand that sometimes these fights, they announce them basically the moment they're done because they don't want them leaked by the media. So maybe there's a feeling that like, we just got to get it out and fuck it, wants it out, it's out. We don't need it. But I do think if you don't treat stuff like it's big, then the fans won't feel like it's big. Right.

So if you keep doing sort of like what appears to be, even if it's not, I'm sure the reason it takes, by the way, the reason it takes 12 hours after they say he's going to announce something for him to do the announcement is just because he's got shit to do. So then by the time they get him in there at 5pm, he's obviously tired. He's obviously like, I want to go home or whatever. I want to get to this other thing. So he can't, he just doesn't put any energy into it, which means that's how you receive it.

It's like, oh, this is just another blaze thing. So I think long term, it'll damage the product. If you keep treating stuff like it's whatever, then people are going to treat it like it's whatever. So I love that idea of like people reacting to it. You have like a levy here. You have like all these people who work in house theory that could easily put something together quite quickly.

I don't really, if he wants to announce it, I get it. He's got a massive platform. But to your point, I would love to see an extension of these announcements because I think, as you said, the biggest issue is not necessarily. we're disappointed with Dana's effort is that we know there could just be way more and i'm surprised paramount aren't saying is this the way we're going to do this for the whole deal you know you'd be curious if they have any thoughts yeah i think there could be more and there should be more because what you do now is he announces it israel versus joe piper good fight but people don't want to talk

about the fight they want to talk about how shit the announcement was so then you've just I know no one's talking really about the fight. They're just talking about how shit the announcement was. So you kind of just take away from your own announcement. It's like there's no point in doing it, you know, this way. So I'd love to see it change, but I'm not sure if changes. They've got the money. I mean, the money is not the issue.

But it's like, I just think they, I don't know this to be true, but I get the feeling. They really just don't want fights leaked on social before they can do it, basically. So I think there's an element of like just what is there. Okay, but how do they see this? that to the best of your assessment. Why does the UFC see that so, I don't know if threatening is the word, but what is

the harm in their, to the best of your assessment, what is the harm in the media getting it first? I don't think there's any harm because I think once it's out, in this day and age, once it's out, it's ripped by a thousand aggregate accounts anyway. So you don't even necessarily see it off day in social, you just see it through social media.

So I actually don't think it matters who gets it first because it all lends itself the same thing. I think maybe there's a little bit of a little bit of an ego thing they don't know you know Dana does not love the media I don't think he necessarily likes to lose to the media think mr. Helwani it had a lot to do with that with the whole breaking announcements and stuff like that I don't think Dana ever loved that so I think there's an element of just he wants to get it out because fuck us but I think yeah it's it's I don't really understand it because I don't think it matters at the end of the day I think if you

leak it to if you give it to anyone the end results the same yeah fair enough I I want to play another clip here in just a second, but one thing that I sort of feel like is just a general observation for me as I like evaluate this. It's like I totally understand that the guy has eight million things going on. Of course he does, right? He, to your point, has, I agree. I don't know if the Dana White brand has ever been higher or at a bare minimum had as, as been as culturally and in other ways, influential as it is right now. It's certainly at a high watermarker pretty close to it. And I, understand that that will come with some scheduling demands. But it's like at the same time, my read of the MMA fan base is that they're definitely still

engaged 100%, but they can use a little bit of a boost, a jolt, some kind of electricity to really, especially as this new era gets going. And what everyone will repeat is that the UFC is the best promotion in the world. And there's certainly an enormous amount of evidence for that. But it's like, I don't, you know, if you're, you can't watch a video like this and be like, this is how the best promotion in the world announces fights. Like how, you can't, that can't, they can't be both, right? If you're the best in the world, that's not best in world service quality.

That's just not what that is. It's something very, very different. It's my personal opinion, but I just feel like, I don't know, there's a number of answers here. And I would like to see the UFC and or paramount, particularly in this next six months, certainly this whole year, kind of lean into ways to just put in a little bit more electricity, especially given the putative ability of the promotion.

Now, if I may, let's move this conversation a little bit forward. This is not a new hit that Dana White is playing, but it is a classic. Play the clip with Dana talking about Volk and Lopez. This is from his complex interview. You got Volk Lopez, too. Some people, I guess maybe were questioning why there was a rematch when the first fight felt a little decisive on Volk's behalf.

Yeah. If you don't like it, don't watch it. It was just a fight that made sense. We get in that room and we start putting shit together and should be a good fight. Okay, one more time. A staple, an absolute staple. People are being like, how could he say this? I'm like, he's been saying this for 15 years.

This is, I mean, one billion percent not new. But it is landing, it appears, again, if you disagree by all means, tell me, Oscar. it felt like it landed a little bit differently. Not with you or me, two grizzled veterans who've seen this kind of thing a million times, but maybe newer fans, especially given some of the criticisms that, by the way, this interviewer correctly identified that the fan base had expressed, namely it was kind of one side of the first time.

Why are we doing it so quickly? What do you make of this old chestnut he's rolling out? But maybe why it landed a little bit differently this time. I definitely think he hasn't said it for some years, right? Because I think he usually, that quote, that catchphrase used to come out when he did the scrums. You know, they would do a press conference. Then he would do a massive scrum with all the media off for like an hour. And that he would always, that was his go-to.

So when I heard it, I actually laughed. I was like, oh, there it is. I haven't heard that for a while. What's actually funny is when he used to say it, I used to get really confused. Like if you don't like it, don't watch. I was like, well, you're selling a pay-per-view. You need them to want to watch it to make money. Now they actually don't.

It's part of your package. They probably don't give a fuck if you watch it any. more. But I just, yeah, it's just sort of part of Dana White's like standard defiance. Why it's landed differently, I think is kind of a sign of the turnover of fans we've had. I think a lot of people who used to watch this have probably moved on. And I think a lot of younger guys have come in. So maybe they haven't heard it before. But that is by no means, as you said, a new one. That's a, that's an old. I actually can't believe it's been so long since we've heard that. That used to be a, that used to be a regular. Yeah, that was a regular.

like in the Fox days when the matchmaking and the calendar really expanded in a noticeable way. And people were like, why are they going to UberLangia, Brazil? And why the hell are these? And they'd be like, if you don't like, if you don't like it, don't watch. And I'd be like, I don't know if it's a good idea. But then to the point of the UFC's success at that time, it didn't, I mean, if there was an effect by Dana White saying, if you don't like it, don't watch, I couldn't find one. I just, I mean, maybe, you know, yes, some events did well.

Some events did not do so well. But there really was no way to tell. They seemed kind of immune from the pressure. And it's a weird moment because now we're in a place where they have an enormous amount of money coming in. They're in a premier network. In some ways, MMA has reached a level, again, in conjunction with the anti-white's brand, a level of cultural ascendancy that I've never seen. At the same time, there is this consternation.

I think what you picked up on is Oscar, the same thing I did as well, which is this is the reason why it landed differently is because there's been enough fan turnover that the relatively newer audience has been watching probably for years as you indicated at this point but hasn't really heard Dana talk about it in this way also Dana doesn't do a lot of pre-fight media like I mean he does pre-fight media but he doesn't do a lot of like previewing sitting down with podcasts he more does like in-between fights kind of like talking about news but not really like in the lead up to a fight hears me promoting it in that kind of a way. So I think this landed differently because it landed new for a lot of people.

They were like, oh, I've never heard this before, but it is absolutely a storied refrain. I guess my only takeaway from this would be, I don't mind Oscar if he actually says, hey, if you don't want to watch it, don't or whatever. But he also used to do something else. And Dennis from Submission Radio pointed this out to me and he's right. He used to say that and then would follow it up. with, but here's why you're wrong, right? And there would be this kind of articulation around, if you don't want to watch it, don't watch it, but here's what you're going to miss, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's that second component where it's like, oh, we all got in a room and this is what we came up with. Okay, what is the logic? At a bare minimum, Oscar, would you not agree that if a

similar kind of situation or question or somehow of framing was posed to Eddie Hearn, Eddie will spar with you. Will he not? Oh, actually, Eddie, I have admired Eddie's ability to, when you say, like sometimes these guys who interview Eddie say, promote the card. And he will go on an impassioned rant about the narrative of every fight down the card off the cup of his head. And I think it's been a long, in a way, Dana's not a promoter anymore in the way that he, I don't feel like Dana promotes the fights like that. You know, he doesn't go fucking Keanu, Keah Harris, a double Olympic champion,

he gets a teammate a man, you know, he doesn't really get into the nuts and bolts of it. Dana's more of an overseer of the, the area that is MMA. You don't really get Dana getting into the nitty grisio fights anymore. And that's a shame because I used to enjoy that when he did. And I thought he was very good at that when he did, when he was passionate about the particular fights itself.

Now, back to going, he's just got too much shit on his plate. It's like, you can't, even when you interview Dan, know you can't ask him stuff like uh you know when's kamar usman going to get booked he doesn't know he's not in that that level anymore he's just over the top of it all so he's more in my opinion of a figurehead or face of the company than he is a promoter at this stage and there is a difference between those two like if you look at eddie herne and the way he gets down he's trying to he's trying to sell you this fight data's not trying to sell you anything data's just trying to tell you hey it's on Saturday. It's kind of a different thing. Yeah. And he oversees the brand quality as it relates

to like the broadcast or, you know, other ways. But he's not out there like, here's why Lopez has a great shot against Volk. And if it doesn't have to be Dana, then it doesn't have to be Dana. But it should be somebody. Like that job needs to get done, whether it's Dana or somebody else. I feel like it's missing. All right, last but not least on this, uh, quickly this is Dana talking about Armand Sauriuky. I'm not sure the relevance here, but let's take a look. The main event, I feel, like little bit controversial Patty Pimbleit, Justin Gachi. What's controversial about it?

I think a lot of people feel like Armand. It should have been Sarukin? Yeah. Seru Kian's got to work his way back up there, man. Serucan's had opportunity. He didn't take it. I know, I know obviously he had the fight in L.A. Or didn't have the fight in L.A. I have to be able to count on somebody

if somebody who's going to fight for a world championship. Got to be able to count on them. It's like the whole John Jones thing right now, you know. What does it look like when you say he's got to work his way back up like what does that look like well you know he just fought this last fighting one almost headbutted him in the face and and and and uh almost blew the fight by head budding him in the face at the uh at the wayans mostly if he didn't have that missed you know or uh wait at um l.a do you think that he would would have been the man to well he would have he would

have had the fight yeah that's true he would have fought for the title we wouldn't even be having this conversation that's very true it's not like he hasn't had the opportunity. Yeah. It'd be one thing if he hadn't had the opportunity, there was a time when Bilal Muhammad had won so many in a row. Yeah.

And Balal was like, how many fucking fights do I have to win to get a title shot? You know what I mean? It's not like that. All right, so this was better as just a promotional effort. He at least gave an argument for what he believed, very quickly on the merits of it. By the way, I don't think Dana is all that wrong

for being like, oh, Sauriuki and headbutted a guy. I don't know if we can trust this, Jamoke. It's like, I'm not. actually, I don't think that's an idle concern and all punching fans and we all know the, the situation at that point. I don't know what the remedy is because I think one promoter holding both rank and title and then the ability to punish for what they see as, you know, unprofessional behavior is just too much power in the hands of one entity. But nevertheless, like I sort of get the concern. Here's the thing I could just come up against real quickly on this

one, Oscar, is he's like, oh, he has to work his way back up. He's already number one. I look this up. Belal was not number one until he ended up fighting. He only carried the number one ranking into a fight when he fought Edwards. Saryukian has been that one, remains that one, maintained it by beating Hooker. There's nowhere else to go.

I understand, I genuinely mean it when I say, especially when it makes the John Jones comparison, like these fucking guys are not reliable. Okay, I'm not opposed to an argument. I just don't understand what the remedy is here. Yeah, well, it's actually funny. As I was watching that, now I don't think he's playing 4D chess but ironically has armans has armans Ruggins brand ever been

better or has he ever had more sympathy from the fans like right now I see armand everywhere he's doing these live streams everyone thinks he's being fucked over in a way they're accidentally promoting him more than they ever did like I think when he was about to fight Islam I think people were like good fight not a lot of narrative not very exciting like buildup now I guarantee Armand's next fight is a bigger fight than it would have been. Because people, and it happened with Bilal, like, with all due respect, no one was like clamoring like Bilal to fight for the title. But when they felt like he was being unfairly treated, people got behind it.

And people are getting behind Armand. So I'm not saying the UFC are deliberately shitting on the guy to help that. But it's a nice little silver lining for the guy. As far as the remedy, he's kind of in a really tough spot because obviously the winner of this fight next week has to fight Elya. So Armand's going to be sitting out. The only guy I think Armin hasn't really, like would be available to him is Gamrod, which obviously, like, what's his incentive to do that?

He's done that before. So I don't know what Armand's solution is unless maybe Elya moves up and then him and Paddy have already built up something thing. But in terms of it, to your point, like, it must be quite hard for him. Here's how I feel. It's quite hard for Armin because he doesn't know. what he has to do to get out of this black hole he's in. But then he does things like headbutt down hooker at the way in.

And you think, oh, motherfucker, you're going to stay in there until you learn. So it's kind of catch 22. Like every time he should be getting out of it, he fucks it up for himself. So maybe anger management, maybe calm down. And then we'll see. Also, stop eating like pre-weight loss surgery, Lizzo. Like, why are you doing this? That's very weird, right?

it's like here's him eating it's like this is a rare condor egg by eating this egg he'll actually eliminate the species from the earth and it's just him eating it gobs and it's like okay i don't know i'm not sure what that is all right topic number two if we can now we do stay with what i would consider to be something of a disappointing announcement but again on some level it's the sport what can you do namely kela harrison the ufc women's bantamweight champion was scheduled to face a manna nunez and they were calling it the biggest women's fight of all time. I don't know if it's that, but it was certainly a very, very important fight and at a bare minimum, arguably, if not maybe unambiguously, the very best

women's fight that can be made right now in all of the sport. It's certainly in that conversation, but she had surgery on her neck and her fight with Amanda Nunes is off. It's been postponed. Here's a tweet from ESPN, which, by the way, there's still alive, Oscar. I had no idea that this account was still being used. But as you can see here, she's out, and they say, quote, Harrison required surgery this week to repair herniated discs in her neck, according to a report by the Eagle Tribune. The UFC has not announced if or when the championship fight will be rescheduled. We do have Kayla.

We're not going to show the whole thing. We got about 20 seconds of her from the hospital bed in a neck apparatus talking about her situation. Let's roll the tape. I had to have surgery on my neck yesterday here in New York City with a specialist, Dr. Kim. Yeah, so in lieu of that, obviously we're going to have to reschedule the fight. And I just want to say, I'm sorry. Now, I want you to answer two questions, and you can go whichever one first.

But partly I want to know what you think this does as a blow to the UFC's efforts or Paramount 2. Remember, they launched this new YouTube channel. The first two videos that they put up were interviews with Amanda and then Kayla. But the bigger question to me is not that you think, because she wasn't actively in the weight cut process yet, but she's definitely in the weight loss slash weight management process. And she has to do an enormous amount of it just to keep her weight down. She walks around 165 and then she fights around 135. It's 30 pounds.

She has to get down. The injury, as I understand it, Oscar, was one that had been longstanding. But it's just very hard for me to look at someone who has to kill. themselves to get down to a weight, then having it exacerbated close to fight time. To what extent do you think this injury hastens her exit from the sport? Yeah. I don't know if he was necessarily long for the sport anyway. You know, I think she's really achieved a lot.

I think part of what makes this so sad for her is I think this was kind of the culminating moment for her was an Amanda Nunes fight to really like sort of. cement her place in history. So I don't know if it speedens it up. What I suspect it will do is I had sort of envisioned they would fight here and then rematch at the White House because it's just the biggest women's fight you can do, even a rematch, which either way would probably still be bigger than the next best thing you could put together.

Now I assume what they would love to do is just skip and make that the last one, right? Oh, make that the fight, these two at the White House. And at that point, maybe she would just think about, walking away to the the weight cut thing i had heard something was going on with kela like uh that that morning and i had assumed it was weight related because of course you would right like you know she's in the sauna and stuff like that like a week out and all this sort of stuff so i assumed it was weight related to your point i believe this was a longstanding injury but it's really hard right when you see someone who is quite vocal about how really fucking tough it is for her to get in

onto that scale at 135 you assume like she's not just going through a training camp she's going through a training camp and also sucking the life out of herself as well so her body's in like a fucked state the entire way through injuries are going to happen um she's a very very very tough woman she's been through a lot so i definitely don't anticipate her making this like the end i think she will see this as something to come back from but i mean i'll just share this i'll share this anecdote don't it's a bit like after she won her last fight I was in the elevator at my hotel and her parents got into the elevator and they said to each other just one more just one more and they were talking about a Nunez fight and I said well they didn't even know who I was and I said oh hey

guys she'll have to do a rematch and they went okay two more two more so clearly it's a topic so I wonder if maybe it won't speed up because she can't do it anymore but it will speed up the what's what better way to go out than at the white house is my sort of I mean, I think she's physically, again, both in the present moment, but then accumulatively, I think she's in a place where if someone said, could you even, like, I mean, forget, forget the opponent, forget, I mean, you can have as much time as you want. Could you physically even do this three more times? I don't know how that could even possibly be yes.

Two would be like the max, right? You could imagine she would have the comeback fight and then maybe one more after that. I don't I just could not have met three more weight cuts like this but then again to your point like say she beats Amanda at the White House why do it again like who would who unless and this is like fucking fantasy land like apparently Ronda is coming back and doing something this year not necessarily with the UFC but if Ronda is coming back maybe you could somehow get that that's worth cutting down in 35 for right a fight with Ronda Rousey for sure other than that what Pena? Like, why bother?

For what? For what? There's no point. It means nothing. So I think, I think her exit is going to be this year, no matter what. And I honestly feel like, even if there was, again, to your point about like, oh, what if Gachie wins and then they offer him McGregor at the White House? Yeah, okay. Like, strange things can happen like that if the name on the other side of the ledger is big enough. But absent some kind of black swan or, you know, Hail Mary kind of opportunity, I think this is it. I don't see how. how she goes past it. She is literally falling apart based on what she has put herself through to even get to

the finish line. Her body will not let her do this for much longer. And again, understand, she was getting her body in the process. She didn't go through the weight cut, but she'd been doing the weight management. She has to ramp up again once she comes back from this. So that would be two of those in this year, basically no matter what. Like, it just can't happen. Now, you kind of talked about this previously, Oscar.

You don't think it's necessarily a big blow. to their first efforts. I guess I, well, tell me why you think that. Well, I just think the UFC has established itself as a machine, right?

And actually, to their credit, when stuff happens, they just keep rolling with the punches. And so I think they've kind of conditioned fans to do the same. You know, um, it's armor,

the boxer just pulled out and they had to cancel the whole card. That's never going to happen with the UFC these days. You know, the machine keeps rolling. Even if the replacement fight they do, doesn't necessarily make sense. They find a way to keep it. rolling. So I think fans are conditioned to be like, oh, the fight's canceled. Oh, that sucks. Next.

You know, I think we're just people in MMA are conditioned to just accept the fights fall out. So I don't necessarily think it's a blow to them. Curious, I mean, welcome to MMA, Paramount, you know, pretty, this is pretty classic. So enjoy that. And it's part of the shitty side of the sport. But I think, I think maybe if this was the fight, they built the entire card around. that probably would have been a disaster. But I think the card's actually very strong. I think you have an interesting title fight with Paddy and Justin interim. So I think they'll get away with this one.

But if they had built the whole card around it, I think that probably would have been a real fucking disaster. But then again, then they'd go out and pay someone really loads of money to step in and fight on short notice. So they would have figured it out anyway probably. But yes, I think that will get away with this one. My favorite was Amanda Serrano on Twitter being like,

oh, I can step in. It's like, no, you can. Or Norman DeMont. John for your services. Yeah, no thanks. Pro drivers live for race day, but for small business owners, every day is race day.

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First fight on the Fox era, first main event, not first fight, first main event in the Fox era was that Kane, JDS fight where people don't realize this now, or maybe, maybe you know, but if you weren't around at that time, Kane was badly injured heading into that one, but it was such a big deal that, I mean, I don't know if he was coerced or not, but he went through with it, obviously losing. And then, of course, he fights JDS two more times and rearranges his face both times. But that first one, he was terribly injured, but, you know, he kind of found a way to limp to the

finish line, but the fight ended up being anticlimactic a little bit as a process. Then the first fight on the first main event anyway, on the ESPN era was the Suhudo and Tj one where he made it to the finish line, but the whole thing was made weird by this insane weight cut. And then here you have the first

main event untouched, but the co-main event got it. So I'm just saying these first cards, these the title fights they try to put on, the big ones, it's, for whatever reason, the first ones are really hard to get across the finish line. By the way, untouched for now. Let's do it a whole week. Yeah. Yes. And again, it's barbecue sauce on his face. It's nothing else.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for real. Yeah. Real quickly, put up the graphic you made, Long Island. So this is who in this division has a fight booked already. So I always put it mispronounce her and ass name. Chiasen. How do you say her fucking last name? Chasson. Chasson. That's right. God damn. Eileen Perez, Nora Corniola. I'm not, Corneoy. I'm not sure I pronounce her last name. And then Jocelyn Edwards. the question was would there have been anyone that would have made sense for Amanda to fight as a substitute and I don't see a name on that list that even comes close to making me interested in seeing it. Do you? Well, I mean, no for a start. But the only thing I would be like, okay, for Amanda's decision is, okay, am I going to be out for two years and fight Kayla or am I going to be out for three years and fight Kayla?

is there a variable difference that I want to mitigate by taking a fight in the meantime? To be honest, it was a non-starter because they're paying Amanda a fucking lot of money to fight Kayla Harrison. They're not paying her a lot of money to fight Norman DeMont. So they were never going to get a replacement anyway. The Serrano thing, that's a classic Chale-Sun and me throwing that one out there, you know, but like, which I actually appreciated. And I'm sure she would have done it. And it would have been, you know, it would have made headlines.

I don't really see a world where Dana is working with the Keys of Baderian, to be honest. but, you know, good effort by Amanda. But yeah, in terms of like Nunes fighting, not a chance. And again, it's also, if you're the UFC, we have this, let's be frank, one of the very few bankable women's fights in MMA right now, right here, potentially at the White House. No one would complain if it was on that card. Are we going to risk Norma Dumont fucking that up for us?

No, no chance. Also, it's like, oh, it'd be great because you have a slugger in Serrano going up against Nunes. Oh, you like when Nunes fought Jermaine. to me and took her down the whole time. You fucking idiot. Serrano's 125 most of the time had to move up in weight to fight Katie Taylor, who's not a giant. Yeah, that would have been pretty

sad. And then also, I think, if I'm right, I think Amanda Serrano said, Amanda Serrano said she'd been she always grapples with her nephew. Your fucking nephew, Gable Steven, because that doesn't necessarily make me think you're going to have some great, like, defense. Yeah, so respect the cool out,

respect the game, but. I have people in my mentions, be like, she's got great Jiu-Jitsu. I'm like, no, she doesn't. Yeah. No, that's not a thing that's real. I got a text off a random number. I don't actually, if they're watching, I apologize, don't have your number say, but someone texts me Amanda and give me her record and stuff like, it'd be a great fire. I was like, is

a Kesa? Who is this? Yes. When was that? That was right after she tweeted. So I assume it's someone related to her. If it's not, I don't know. You should have been like, lose my number. How about that? I just went, it's cool. It's like, is this my Uber

Eats delivery driver? Who is this? but I appreciate it would have been fun I don't think it would have lasted very long but it would have been fun I get I get text like that on occasion it's like hey brother nice to talk to you and then I'll see that there's a text chain and I'll look through the text chain

I'll be like I still don't know who the fuck this is yeah I know what is the 6 to 1 area I mean I don't know any of this shit all right unfortunately everyone I delete all my text when I go through customs oh are you I do I use a burner when I go through customs all right I'll just go to topic number three here

if we can. Now, we do have some fight announcements, some pretty good ones along the way. We're going to go here in chronological order for these impending UFC events. We are going to talk about the PFL. We're not going to include that in this particular segment. However, obviously there wasn't a big announcement for them for their first show in the US in 2026 in Pittsburgh. We'll come back to that a little bit later. Let's stick with the UFC here, if we can, Oscar. Let's go through these. So on the 28th of February at UFC, Mexico, this fight to me, is absolutely excellent. You can ask Long Island Luke.

I had David Martinez pegged as one of my standout fighters to have a big year in 2026. He has got a big step up. They clearly believe in him against the flagging, but still important and very tough Marlon Vera.

Do you love this fight as much as I do? Listen, I don't know if I love it as much as EG, but I definitely think it's the fight to make. You know, we have long been saying we're in a bit of a transitional period in MMA, right? the bigger names are starting to age out. The younger guys maybe haven't made their splash yet. This is one of those ones where like, okay, bear is coming down, Martinez is coming up,

is he ready to overtake and so on and so forth. They clearly think so. I think obviously in Mexico, the crowd's going to be electric. I think it's going to be fun. And it's an important one for Marlon, right? Like, you know, the guy's not, he's not exactly shining every fight he takes these days. So we're at that stage now where it's like, okay, is he on a bad skid or is he done? and this is the fight that I think will answer that.

I love this fight, as you mentioned, coming versus going, you know, younger versus older. Not that Cheetah's super old, but, you know, obviously David is on the up and up. I've been very impressed by him, especially with his last fight in the UFC coming in on short notice and looking so good. So that's a fun one.

Also on that card, if you care, Douglas Silva de Androge, who's got, by the way, my man is diced to the fucking socks, taking on Javier Regis. you care at all or no. But I mean, hey, good for UFC, Mexico. Yes, exactly.

All right, UFC 326. This will be the 7th of March. This was another one that had been booked. Previously, it fell out, but they went back to it. I also liked this matchmaking. Rob Font taking on Raoul Rosas, Jr. Do you think Rosas Jr. is ready for Rob Fon? The matchmaking matches the same contours,

essentially, between Vera and Martinez. Is it too much too soon or right on time? if it's just an interesting one, right? I'm surprised I didn't put Raoul on New Jersey Mexico, actually, but it's an inch, it is a bit of a roll of the dice for Raysas Jr. But if you're going to get Rob Font, you probably,

this is probably the, like in terms of what value can you get from his name versus where he's at sort of athleticly, this is probably the peak moment for them to build off him, right? Like if he loses again to someone without much of a name, then he's not going to be considered like a guy that they built, you know, that you can build off.

So I think it's a bit of roll of the dice. It's just really tough, right? As you well aware, but MMA is not an old man's game. And there's just a moment where the younger guy can win based on athleticism and stuff like that. So now we're at that crossroads for Raul and Rob, who wins more, the experience of the athleticism and the youth.

And I think it's an interesting fight. I think it's a good fight. I do think if Rosas loses, it's a big step back for what they obviously have planned for him. But I think it's good. I think it's important for him to start. this year off making a splash and show that he's an actual sort of a talent rather than just a young guy that's known because he's young.

For Rob Font, these are his losses in the UFC in the last, like since he surged kind of closer to the top of the division, Josealdo, Marlon Vera, Corey Sanhagen, Devesant Figuero, and then most recently David Martinez, the guy we just talked about who's going to be fighting Marlon Vera. He had two wins in between the Figuero and the Martinez losses. He had wins over Kyler Phillips and Gene Matsumoto. Raoul Rosas Jr. would have present something, would be something of a newer, I mean, it would be two in a row, which he hasn't had since, Aldo and Vera, and it would be, I'm not going to say the worst opponent he has lost to. I'm not trying to be super demeaning. I'm saying there's just a very

different class of opponent than Devinson Vigaredo and Corey Sanhagen, right? It's not the same kind of thing. Yeah, and in Wave Fonts been a victim of his own name value there, right? Whereas he lost a, he could probably take him a step down from those levels of opponents, but because he's a name, they kept him up with the Sanhagans and Figuerados. So you don't know if he was going to lose those anywhere, if he just lost because they're very good, right? So he's kind of been a victim of his own success there. But yes, I'd agree the level of opponent is a significant drop here. Also, because Paulo Costa has moved up to 205, we'll talk about that in just a minute,

Bruno Fehera needed an opponent in-steps Robocop Gregory Rodriguez, Robocop a BC favorite or as he called him Hobocop. You have to like this one, especially for late notice matchmaking, this is actually one of the better iterations you're going to get at 185 pounds. Yeah, I would agree with that.

And also I think Robicop deserves a lot of credit. It's very hard. We talk about like there's no stars and stuff like that. It's very hard to stand out in an era where there's fights every weekend. There's like just not a lot of oxygen. for anyone to sort of shine through. The only way, in my opinion, you can build a name these days

is by fighting regularly. And I feel like I see Robocop a lot. You know what I mean? He fights quite often and he's a very, very vicious, like, finisher. So I think because of that, he's like just establishing himself. Will he ever get a title shop? Maybe not. But he's like a guy like Kevin Holland where like casuals can recognize.

Like, oh, I know that guy. I saw that knockout. I just recognize the name at this point. So I really love that he stepped in and he's doing this fight. And I actually think it'll be a good fun fun fun. He fought four times in 2023, or he had two canceled bouts. I apologize. He had two bouts in 2023, two in 2024, but he had three last year.

And I think it's what you're talking about, a little bit more frequency. We'll see if he can keep that up. By the way, we didn't put it on the rundown, but it's worth kind of discussing here. The main, excuse me, the co-made event of this card, Kyle Bhalio versus Renier de Ritter. Now, I want to be honest about this. I had someone in the industry text me being like, oh, this is proof the UFC doesn't care. and I understand the argument that they're making, namely that, you know, both of these guys are coming off of pretty decisive losses, and it's the co-main to Holloway and Olivera. Nevertheless, I don't hate the fight, to be honest. I mean, whether it deserves co-main event placement, your mileage may vary. I don't know where you come down on this Oscar, and I'm not saying that this card couldn't use a little bit more of a star power injection. I guess my only point is I don't fully agree with the hate for this. one. I there's a lot that there's a there's a huge opportunity for redemption for whoever wants to

grab that and that's worth acknowledging here. I completely agree. I actually love the fight. Co-main event or not I don't know. I don't actually have an issue with it because first of all, yes, they're both coming off losses, but isn't the long running thing that we all take moral high ground over boxing is that losses don't really matter in MMA you can come back from them and people will still accept you. So you got like, as you said, there's a path to redemption for one of them. And secondly, I think both of them, I hate to keep talking about this, but both have a name. You know, like people, casuals will recognize these guys at this point. And I think it's a fun, interesting fight as well. So I actually like it. And I think because they both have a

name, all it takes is one to win over the other. And they're right back there. They're one to fight away from a title at that point. So in that case, okay, maybe you burn one and he's no longer going to be entitled contention moving forward. But you get one of your guys that you clearly like back in that conversation much quicker than you would have if you gave him two fights against lower-ranked opponents. I like this fight. UFC Seattle will be later that month, the 28th. And of course, this is a UFC fight night card. It will be headlined, as we saw the announcement earlier, between Israel Adesnia and then Joe Pfeiffer. Some interesting promotion by Joe Pfeiffer recently on social media yesterday, the old dog-banging joke. I will say this, an interesting pairing

because you have six versus 15 in the rankings. We brought this up, and there's people closer to Izzy, as well as closer to Joe, you would have thought that they would have made. True or false, part of the reason Joe Pfeiffer is getting this opportunity, I said part, not the full explanation, but part of it, is that the UFC really wants to promote Americans. You've got a 29-year-old heavy hitter in Joe Pfeiffer, Raw, certainly not the accomplished middleweight that Izzy is.

Izzy's much older. Yes, you get a great pairing in terms of styles. It could be a very, very action-oriented. to fight for as long as it lasts. But if you're wondering why a 15th ranked guy is jumping the queue all the way up to six, I think at least part of what explains that is the premium being placed on making sure in this paramount era American stars get promoted a little bit more than perhaps they have been recently. Yeah, I saw your live chat where you said about that.

I thought that was really interesting. And I think there's probably some credence to it. I also, again, it's hard to know because it's just looming in the background how much sort of real estate they're putting on that White House card and how much like super Americana guys they want to get on there. Joe Pfeiffer would fit that bill. So I wonder how many early matchmakings they're doing with the idea that like, okay, if Joe wins here, he can turn around for June. But to your point, yes, I think Joe's also a guy they like Dan is loves. Like, in fact, going back to the announcement he did, when he said Joe's name, he actually smiled during that

video. You know, he loves Joe Pfe. So I think there's probably multiple elements of play here. One, young guy, older guy, can we give someone a bit of a shine? Two, American and three, like, I think it is a fun matchup as well. So I'm sure there's a lot of elements that went into it. But yes, I don't think you could rule that out. That there's a, you win early. If you're American and you win early this year, you're going into a lottery to fight on that card in June.

So I think that's probably a lot of them. I mean, I just have it on good authority that, like, they want to make, like, there's no real American stars on the men's side. with the exception of like Max Holloway and some smaller names, Sean O'Malley and stuff like that. But like elite top 10 pound for pound guys, it's basically a wasteland at this point. And that's like unheard of in the history of MMA that the Americans would be that far behind everybody else. Again, there's always been strong Japanese, always been strong. Brazilians always been strong.

You know, you name it. There's been, it's why Trump took the visas away from Russia and Brazil so you guys can get back on top? Just the immigrant visas. You can still come here as a tourist. But in any case, it's just, I think it's a bit of an all-hands-on-deck moment. And, again, I don't, there's more to why Piper's in that slot than just that, I think. But I do think it plays a role. Also on that card for those who care, Julian Arosa taken on Larry and Douglas.

All right. Here is one that, oh, we got Joe Piper on stopping Izzy in a really bad way. Let me hear this. One thing I want to be known for, bro, is that, you know, I got this opportunity and I'm absolutely bringing the heat. and I'm going to go and try to be the first one to stop him in a really bad way. You know, just on a sport, you know, competitive. And I hope that we're both healthy afterwards. But I know I have those capabilities over anybody in this division to really hurt someone where they don't move.

And I'm just excited to test my skills, man. So I don't really care about the eye. That's a nice Joe Piper. I don't know if the Nasadine stoppage was a good finish. I don't know if he looked, you know, he's like, I'm going to stop him in a bad way. I don't think him above was like a good way. You know, he got knocked badly on by that one. What does he mean?

Like Josh Hammett knocking up Bryce of Mitchell. Right. He wants to leave him starched. Yeah, it's an interesting one. That one, like, obviously you're, you referred to Pfe's image that he reposted yesterday of him arresting Israel. That one could. With the dog in the background, yes. Oh, yeah.

There I didn't even realize that one. Yeah. I think that could develop some heat, to be honest. And start, literally, it's fun. Right. I do think to Joe's point, like, if he would. wins, it's probably quite grim way for Israel that he wins. You know, I think it would be a case of Israel being like maybe slower than he used to be and Joe catching him rather than Joe out

pointing him to a decision. Do you know what I mean? So I think it'd be the lowest ranked guy he's ever lost to. Yes, it would also be, I'm like, I'm pretty close with Israel so I don't want to like come across advice, but it would also be, it's a bit like, you know, there's guys legends can lose to and it's like, okay. And then there's guys that when you see, them losing to them, you're like, oh, they're done. You know, I think if Israel lost to Joe Pfe, people would be like, oh, like, we're at that stage now of his career, you know, where it's like the Anderson run, where he lost to Erya Hall and people like that, where it's like you're losing to guys, you never even thought they would fight. So I don't know what the public perception would be if Israel lost this one, but I certainly think it's like a very, also that Israel doesn't seem to give a shit. He's just fighting for fun of this point. But I think it's, it's there will be, if Israel lost this one, there would be,

a lot of sad, older fans, I think. It would, again, it would represent the kind of loss. You literally haven't seen him have at this point. All right. And then last but not least, UFC 327, this will be on April 11th. They announced, as we indicated, Hopocop was filling in against Bruno Fahara because that was originally going to be Paulo Costa, but he is now just moving to 205 pounds. Let's take a look at this photo he posted.

You know what, Oscar? He is like a reverse, Bert Kreischer. you know how like Burt Kreischer also takes his shirt off a lot but then that's like his only joke his like Paulo's only joke is like the secret juice thing and he but he's just jacked you know what I mean like but he's he's still got a little Burt Kreischer in him there nevertheless here's the question I have for you he's taking on Azamatt Mersakanov who just came off that beautiful win over Alexander Rackich has ridiculous hand speed smaller for the weight class but real real quick good combinations. accurate punching. I feel like it's a real bad matchup for Paulo Costa. Where are you on this one? They certainly didn't do him a favor, did they? But I also think, like, I don't think Paulos done them many favors, to be honest.

I think Polos kind of fucked them around a few times as well. So maybe there's an element. I remember the, I think it was Joe Silver used to tell guys if you turn this fight down, the next guy will, I guarantee will have a consonant at the end of their name. You know, like you get given an of if you're in trouble. So maybe there's an element of that. as far as the fight itself, when Polo was like in that

Yoel Romero fight, you know, where he was really aggressive and just got in there, I could see him doing a lot more with that style than the style he's been doing recently, which is kind of tepid,

I guess. I don't really know what, you know, so, yes, not a welcome, not a welcome Matt to the division, but he's got a name and if he wins,

straight up the rankings. Long Island, Luke, any fight that tickles your fancy, anyone we didn't mention that you think stands out. uh there was one that just came up and i'm blanking on it now was puna heli soriano versus someone's shit man and it was going to be uh earlier in february you know i should really know this twitter's down though so i blame twitter but uh either way i'm most hyped for uh rob font raoul rosas junior honestly

i think that answers the most questions about raoul and i'm interested to find out where he stands if raoul wins that one that's such a big deal but if he loses that's very terrible for It's also, he's in kind of, like, if he beats Rob Fon, great. But then in that division, like, who do you put him up against next? Like, you might have got one over an old Rob Fon, but. Well, this is the part that kind of kills me. And this is why I'm like, I'm like, guys, like, you know, 21 in the UFC versus 26, 25, 24, even. It's actually a pretty big difference.

And, yeah, you can be 21 or 22, and you could be John Jones. And that's one thing. people keep talking about Roel like he's a prodigy and I'm like, listen, he might win that Rob Fawn fight and maybe he looks good. Like, too, he's not a fucking prodigy. Like there's nothing about, I saw, I've seen prodigies come through.

I've seen BJ Penn sort up. I've seen John Jones. Like, it's immediately clear that they're manhandling these fucking guys. That's, that's just not who Rosas is. That doesn't mean he's not talented and that doesn't mean he's not good. It just means it's been a little bit of hype around him. And to the point that you raise, okay, let's say he wins.

ends and well now you're in the deep end and it's like you're 21 you're gonna go you're gonna fight Mario bautista next do you know Mario good fucking luck dude he's number nine he's number nine in that division so he would beat number 12 then the next people above him are Peyton talbot but David Martinez Mario baltista like those are tough even finitius oliver like these are yes I think he could he could beat rob fun I don't know about the rest of them as you said like when you know a prodigy dude I knew john jones is going to win the fucking title in his second fight. You know what I mean?

You can tell when someone's like very good. He's, he's, Raoul Res. Jr. is basically well known because he was like the youngest guy everyone contender, right? That's why he got signed at 18 and that's what sort of established him in people's mind. It's not because he was like unbelievable when he did it. Also, the fight that Long Island Luke was referencing was Ramiz Brahimi versus Punahelae-Punaelaeusoriano.

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I wish when they were in the states sooner, but I do like Pittsburgh, some of these smaller underserved markets getting an opportunity. It's going to be headlined by Johnny Eblen taking on Brian Battle. I've got some questions about the fight itself. But let's sort of open up the conversation here a little bit. How are you feeling about their changes to their format, because they've got rid of basically the tournament format, They want to stack cards more traditionally.

It is a lot of tweaks that they have made. And what do you think their chances for success are ahead of TV deal negotiations with ESPN? Now, before you answer, let's take a look at Jonathan Martin, who I think is now the CEO of the company, announcing this PFL Pittsburgh event. Hey, everybody. I'm John Martin, PFL CEO. I'm excited to announce today that our first event in the U.S. will be held in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on March 28th, live from the UPMC event center.

In the main event, former middleweight champion Johnny Eblen returns to the cage to take on Brian Battle, a former winner of the ultimate fighter in one of the MMA's hottest free agent signings, and he's going to be making his PFL debut. In the co-main, Pittsburgh's own Dalton Rasta takes on 2023 PFL tournament champion, Impa Kisanganai. We're excited for PFL to be in Pittsburgh for the first time. Visit the link below for more information on how to buy tickets, and stay tuned for more huge fight announcements from the PFL.

Now, there ain't shit happening in Pittsburgh, so it's great that they're getting an opportunity to watch a little PFL. Give me your temperature on first the PFL in 2026 and then we'll talk about this event specifically. I think this is a strong start for them. I love the two matchups. They make sense. As you said, there's no point going to markets that are paying the fucking UFC to be there. You should be going to places that they're not going to. That's how you sell tickets and that's a very important part of PFL's revenue.

I think PFL is in a very strange spot because like with the ESPN deal, it's not necessarily a statement on PFL as such if ESPN resigns them. I think in sports rights at the moment, there is so much content that networks are getting a bit more picky and choosy about what's going to give them a return. The reason I say that is because basically you cannot watch boxing in America right now. Do you know what I mean? There's just no TV deals out there because I think people that the networks realize

they may be even overpaying for sports rights. So with the PFL ESPN negotiations, that might hurt them. I think it's, it feels to me like this is a bit of a soft launch of a PFL rebrand, which they sorely needed. I did not think their previous face of the company did the many favors by posting fucking LinkedIn shit every two minutes. I think they needed a fresh code of paint. And I hope that this is a start of that.

and hopefully you can sort of see like you know there's nothing wrong with being like the smaller show but be smaller and be better rather than like a bad copy of the other you know the big stars I thought he replaced Peter Murray I mean I definitely have noticed that they've sidelined Don Davis but and they've elevated Martin but my understanding is isn't Martin like basically hired so that they could get a new TV deal like this is the guy from Time Warner he this is what he does he's very very good at this. He has a proven track record of it. I think that's, at least in part, that's a big reason why they hired him, no? I think it is. But then you also have to shut up the other guy who's just making you look bad every 20 minutes. Do you know what I mean? So I think there's a bit

of a combination factor here. Yeah. And these, it's funny, there's now like, there are guys in this space who are almost exclusively hired to get TV deals done because they have relationships with the networks. You know, there's like guys who literally just specialize in this. I think the guy who negotiated the ESPN WWE deal just went for the Paramount thing and stuff like that. Like it's kind of all in Nick Con. Yeah, yeah. I think it's all like a little bit incestuous to be honest. But if it works for them

very worthwhile hard. I just wanted to shit on Don Davis for the fucking dumb LinkedIn posts. Or, hey, let's bring Russell Brand right before he gets charged with, you know, I mean, I'd say convicted, but charged with rape. I was like, that's smart. That's real smart. You seem to be a very smart guy, you know. God's child, Russell Brand loves it. Is there any promoter in combat sports who just has normal friends?

Like, do any of you have like childhood friends who, you know, they're not some kind of oligarch or on the run from some other kind of country? That wasn't even his friend. He just saw a celebrity. It was like, it'd be fucking really cool to get this guy in my cage right now. It's like, give him a Google. Just give me a little. Yeah. Yeah.

Long Island Luke, have you ever seen the poster for Get Him to the Greek? the movie. I love that movie actually, but I've never seen the poster. Well, I mean, I was a two. It's two. No, no. Three. It's Russell Brand Diddy and then Jonah Hill who also, I mean, I don't think he's quite on the porn with those two, but also had his own allegations at one point. I was like, wow, this poster has aged terribly. Well, it's such a good movie. Funny moves. He's the boys being boys. Yeah. I will tell you this. For the PFL in 2026, to me, it's make or break this TV deal. Like if they don't get. a TV deal. I don't, I don't know how they survive. And even if they get one, I'm not entirely sure how they survive either, just given to your point. There's so, I mean, there's there's cornhole on this women's volleyball at Texas A&M versus, you know, whoever the fuck. Like, is just a ton of it out there. And I don't know what ESPN's interest in MMA is going to look

like absent UFC. It's the big question we don't really know. Have you heard anything about what ESPN's interest in MMA is going to be like now with just PFL on the roster. Any any any any any word? I mean so you can I can only gauge ESPN's interest in MMA as a whole base in their interest in the UFC and I mean they will still be covering UFC. It will just look a lot more like it did pre the TV deal, which was mostly mostly dot com stuff, you know, they've got their YouTube up still. I think they're going to still be uploading content to that. But I think sometimes in these deals there is a little bit of an ego playing. And so I can imagine a world where ESPN execs are like, well, if we didn't get the big thing, we're not going to highlight the little thing. You know, it's like we even want it all or nothing, which is usually how these networks

kind of work. I don't think they're going to go back to like pretending it doesn't exist, but definitely they're not going to be highlighting MMA. And if you're not going to highlight MMA, you're not going to get something that's catering exclusively for hardcore fans, I don't think. So that's what I when I said about the negotiations, I think they're up against it. But in terms of ESPN's interest in MMA, I think maybe, you know, it all ended kind of on a nice note, but there's still a little bit of hurt feelings there is my read on it.

So we'll see it. We'll have to see moving forward. But what's what's in it for them to push something that's on another network at this point, you know? Yeah, no question about it. For people to come in, tune in anyway. I'll be curious to see what kind of coverage PFL gets. I'll say this. I basically love all of the changes that they've made either to what you can do in the cage or how the events are stacked or the tournament format being scrapped or trying to clean up like, oh, we have five. different brands. We have the Asia brand, the Africa brand, the Europe brand. And there is still

some level of importance to them, but they're trying to just clean up this kind of mess of brands. There was one time, remember, PFL had like tournament champions. They wanted to have weight class champions. Then they had Bellator champions and everything in between. It was like, I don't know who the fuck at this organization is what at this point. It was very strange. So I think all of that, I don't see how any of that is a bad idea. What they have to deliver on is consistently good quality MMA with names that people know and care about. And can they do that? It's not been their calling card to this point, but this is the best shot they've got, I think, that I've seen them have in a real long time. Yeah, you've just got to keep it simple. Like, this is like,

we've all complained about boxing having too many belts and stuff like that. When you have PFL, PFL Africa, PFL Europe, it just gets convoluted and people's reaction to that is not like, I bet a deep dive and learn this shit, it's, oh, fuck it. I don't want to hear about any of it then. So yeah, simple is better. I think they're moving towards that for sure. And I think that can only, and it's like the one avenue they haven't tried yet is being simple and just being a promotion of, you know, an entity.

So I'm curious to see how it works for them. They are up against it just because the UFC brand's so strong and because PFL's not necessarily got a lot of credit with the fans sometimes. So they're up against it. but you need them to succeed. We need other promotions out there. So hopefully it does work out. Last but not least on this event,

Brian Battle versus Johnny Eblen. I kind of like this fight. People were saying shouldn't it have been a title fight for their first fight in the States? And I kind of do agree to the extent that there was a way to do that. They probably should have done that. Nevertheless, Evelyn, former champion, just resigned with PFL, even though he had lost to

Costello Van Steenus. Brian Battle had that one win in dirty boxing after being cut from the UFC. Fans, it's interesting. Brian Battle is more of importance to the fans than I would have expected someone who's basically outside the top 15 to be, two wins and dirty boxing. Excuse me, I said one win. It's actually two wins and dirty boxing. But he's a little bit more popular than when folks, I'm a little bit surprised by his popularity. Nevertheless, having paid attention to the promos he cuts and the ways he wishes if he gets attention, good signing for PFL seems like it could be a pretty good fight.

although I expect Eblen's wrestling will probably win the day. How do you size these two up? I actually think it's a great fight for PFL. And to your point about the title, I think I can't really explain why, but Brian Battle's name carries quite a bit of weight at the moment with fans. So I think he's worth more than the title to PFL. So I think it's a great main event to kick it off.

As far as the fight, you're right. I think the grappling will probably play a big factor. But definitely there's like something interesting with, I think, as I said about Armin earlier, like the UFC is such like the corporate overlords that people just kind of hate on them and hate them. So when a FISA is sort of against the UFC or treated like in a negative way by the UFC fans kind of almost automatically support that guy. And I think Brian's right in that. You know, he got cut from the UFC. Obviously he missed weight and shit.

But I think people sort of attracted to him. And then to your point, his own promotional style is very sort of unique to Brian Battle. So I think he's actually got himself a little bit of a following. And if he wins here, probably could be one of their biggest stars. Pro drivers live for race day. But for small business owners, every day is race day. That's why going pro with Lenovo Pro matters. One-on-one advice, IT solutions, and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors,

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And that's not even a joke. I don't, where is Pittsburgh? Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah. That sounds about, I don't, I don't remember if I was there. They have this sandwich called the it's called like Permonte Bros, which is like one of the, it's a bit of it. I think they have several locations, but initially started as one. And the whole scam is that they just stuff a bunch of fries into the sandwich. Oh, I see. But which if they get the fries piping hot and it depends on what you put in the sandwich, it actually can be pretty good. But what ends up happening is, let's say you, for example, I hear this all the time, let's say you Uber

eats it or whatever, by the time it gets to you, the fries are soggy. So now you got like soggy fries in this fucking hoagie and it's like put the fucking fries outside the hoagy and just make the sandwich good. Yeah, that doesn't sound appealing to me, I'll be honest. That sounds like a convolut, that sounds like a way to make it two meals into one and they're just trying to save money.

You know what I love to hate on Vegas because it sucks. However, what I would say is the food in Vegas surprises me about how depending on what you're looking for, it can actually be very, very good. And I'm not talking about the strip. I'm not talking about like, oh, the nicest state. I don't mean that. I mean like, for example, Persian food in Las Vegas is not half bad.

There's some Japanese places I've been to that were like mom and pop places that had some. Esther Lynn and Casey took me to one. That was fucking awesome. There's some decent. Oh, beer. Ever been to beer and tacos out, you know, not too far from the strip? Yeah, I believe I have, yes. Most of the deal. I mean, for the price is pretty fucking good, right? Yeah, honestly, Vegas, like, has like, I don't know why. Maybe for. for all the Persian billionaires that come here to, you know, molest people. But I don't know, but like they have like great cuisine in the city. It's great. It's a lovely place.

Just because you hate it. It doesn't be we or should. There's some great wings. I've had great wings here. The wings are good there. I also agree with that. I mean, those things you can get in Vegas, but the best thing about it is a leaving. But if you're going to stay, it's the 24-hour drive-through marijuana stores.

That to me is the one thing COVID didn't take. They kept that one. You kept that open. It's so true. We went there. I think the docks, we didn't go to one, but we,

in the docks that we did, what dock was at Long Island where we went to the tuxedo store? For the, for the MMA Awards. Oh, MMA Awards was six. Six. In that one,

we had a guy, because we had to hire locally. A lot of times when Showtime would go places, they'd have a crew, but if they had to get extra sound dude or camera dude, they would just hire locally in the Vegas area. And one of the guys that we hire was local.

And he was like, we went to that strip mall to get BC's tuxedo from like the place where kids go into the prom get theirs. And we were in the parking lot and the guys like, you see that place over there? I was like, yeah. And it looked like an old Taco Bell that had been, you know, changed up. He's like, it's a 24 hour drive through weed store. And I was like, this was like 2022 or something. And I was like, oh my. guess the, you know what, I'm lying. The sphere. The sphere is legitimately very, very cool. Besides the 306, have you been to shows there? Yeah, I've been to a few. I've been to a few.

I would actually, the sphere is one of the few things I would actually recommend to anyone to see anything in it. Like, I agree. Like, you go see, I didn't go to watch the Wizard of Oz, but apparently that was pretty cool. I think also it depends on how many 24-hour drivers you've been to before you've gone. My parents went to the Wizard of Oz and they said it was fucking sick. I bet. I bet.

Dude, they're talking about Metallica having a residency there. If they do that, I cannot imagine going to Vegas by choice, ever. I would go to Vegas by choice to see Metallica atmosphere. I would do that.

It truly is like phenomenal. Yeah, I took my, so they have a recording of you two, like a digital recording, but you could, I mean this, you could not believe they're not there. You know, they look so real. I think my parents didn't tell them that it wasn't

real and they still tell everyone they saw you too. Incredible. All right. Last but not least, let's talk about topic number five. An arrest warrant in Florida has been issued for Gervante Davis. You might recall he was supposed to have the fight with Jake Paul. It was scrapped due to an incident. It is believed that this is the incident in question. Davis is still on probation, which could exacerbate his existing legal troubles. You can see here some of the details. The warrant has been issued on charges, including battery, false imprisonment and attempted kidnapping. Miami Gardens, police are currently working with the U.S. Marshal's fugitive task force to find Gervante. That sounds fun. The incident took place on October 27th where Davis allegedly grabbed the woman by the back of her

head, pulling her with one hand and holding her throat with another as he forcefully dragged her through a stairwell, kitchen and the back exit before physically assaulting her in the parking garage. Police have reviewed the surveillance footage and determine that it supports the woman's story. Again, these are alleged. He has been charged with a crime, but not convicted. Take that for what it is worth.

My question to you is very simple. Oscar, after many indiscretions, is it time to call Jervante Davis, the John Jones of boxing? Yeah, actually, I remember they met at the apex and told each other. Yes. There is a photo of them, like dapping up yep yeah i think uh listen mate you can't you can't ignore it any you know once once

once is a grinsdens twice do like this is a very solid consistent pattern of behavior alleged from giovante so it is what it is at this point i just was anyone surprised when this came out you know you might be like oh shit this is happening i don't think anyone was surprised at this you know can i say i was a little bit surprised a little bit a little bit not in the sense that you're implying which is oh how could how could how could someone of this moral character and do that. Like, you, he's, he, I mean, the guy went to jail for a hit and run and then leaving this,

leaving an injured woman there at the scene of the accident. Like, he went to jail for the shit, right? I mean, you're not surprised in that sense. However, I will say this. And I, at the end of the day, when I say surprise, it's my own, it's my own naivete where here he has made a bunch of money. He did go to jail. He got out.

and he's got kids and I'm not saying a second lease on life he was not in jail for 10 years but one of the kinds of things where the wake up call was bad in your life but certainly not fatal and now you have at least in theory at that moment in time paid your debt to society

I'm not saying it's a clean break but then you heard him talking about like I want to get out of boxing I want therapy clearly he needs it I just kind of thought a little bit Oscar that maybe post-30s he was turning into a more mature version of himself. Took him a while to get there, but he was finally doing it.

And then he does this shit, you know, where it's like, again, it is alleged, but to the extent that it is true, it's just unforgivably heinous. And it's like, dude, how the fuck do you go to jail and you can still have a career afterwards and you're still doing this shit? I guess there's a part of me that was a little bit like, did you really learn nothing? I suppose you learn nothing, you know. I think some of that could be, I mean, we're getting into sort of philosophical big picture here, but I wonder if I see that like when this news comes out, and again, we're talking about fucking Twitter,

so whatever, but you see no matter what, this guy has defenders. Like people defend this guy pretty aggressively and accuse the women of lying and all the rest of it. So I wonder if you came out reflective and were genuinely sort of like, man, I need to reevaluate. But then everyone around you was telling you, nah, fuck her. she was lying and you know and just instilling in your mind that actually you were the one wronged how how strict could you stay to your new reevaluation of life i would imagine you'd slowly slip back into being like well fuck maybe they're right maybe i am right to do this this is how might i behave and then it just sort of any sort of clarity you got on your future it just gets murked by all the

people around you telling you that actually you're brilliant so i wonder if that happened um i will say he i think this happened in tutsy strip club and the last time i was in there was with Craig Jones and I wish I got arrested that night to save my wallet. But regrettably $4,000 later, I did not. He dropped 4K at a strip club? Yes, and then I, oh, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I had to borrow 1,500 off Brett and then went back to next day and spend it all there again. Yeah, that was a bad weekend for me. Craig Jones, what can you do? Paying you good money at the Mac life. Holy shit. Yeah, we'd do all right. Oh, no, I had to sell all my Bitcoin to pay my bills.

we're not doing that good. Oh, fuck. Well, okay, that's not that great. I'll say this. One aspect of the story, I mean, we're all kind of like, Dervantes is a bad guy, great insight,

but I will say this. One thing that stands out to me, that I don't see a lot of people talking, is this has to be devastating for PBC. I mean, think about it. So many of their guys are gone, or in a bare minimum, still loosely associated,

but like able to fight on a golden boy card or a, you know, a matchroom card or what is someone else's card if they have to. You've seen a fair bit of that. More to the point, like, dude, I always hear all these,

rumblings. Remember, they wanted him to fight Jake Paul. They probably wanted him to fight Pachiao this year as like an all-pbc thing so they can get the money to do. Like, you know, because Tank is still going to draw. I mean, people might be mad at him, but to your point, they also defend him and he is still a big star and pretty important communities

who watch boxing and beyond that as well. He's still a big name. But I don't know what his future would be. I'm not saying, Oscar, that they wouldn't put him in a fight just because he got arrested. However, if he's actually facing real legal jeopardy for violating the terms of his probation and or he's so good

he might end up going to jail and this precludes their ability to meaningfully arrange about with him that actually is devastating for an organization that's are they on life support you know hospice care i'm not sure what the metaphor would be but they're not doing great and now their biggest star might not be able to deliver for them this year that seems real bad yeah and we spoke about a little bit earlier, the state of boxing is just in a really weird place right now. Like, I think the only US TV deal is basically the Paramount deal that Zufaxi happened.

They haven't even had an event yet. So boxing is in a very precarious place because I think people have just got tired of the sort of mid-level guys. Tank is not a mid-level guy. He's still one of the people you can build around. And actually, I had not heard that. But if you did a tank Pachial fight, that would probably be one of the biggest fights this year.

That's always still available to them. because in today's world and society, basically nothing really matters. You know, if you just ignore it for a week, people will move on to the next thing. So I think if they book him against anyone, people will still watch, which will still drive revenue. To your point, if you're facing jail time, what do they do then? You know, because they also need like to sell this. They need to sell fights to Amazon Prime to air it. If they don't have the fight to be made, then they really are stuck.

And then, you know, you're really looking at like, like you said, life support for a lot of these companies. Last but not least, by the way, Golden Boy has their last show with the zone. They may still resign, but the deal is expiring and they don't have a new deal. Top break is not on TV. Again, maybe Girvante fights and they use the fight to rehabilitate him. That actually could be a thing, too. It could actually work the opposite way. But, you know, I don't know if he's in fight and shape right now.

I guess we'll see. Doing a lot of running, Luke. This is the part about Zuba boxing that I try to explain to people. Everyone's kind of focused on the Ali Act as like, oh, let's debate the terms of the changes that they're proposing. But one of the things that you really get a sense of when you actually listen to their comments, certainly what they told Congress more specifically, which is, hey, we're going to put money into American boxing. I actually think that seals the argument for them. I'm not saying I fully agree with everything they're doing, or even really anything that they're doing, but what I am

saying is, if you're a neutral observer and you just hear what they're saying, hey, we want new rules because we're going to put a bunch of money in, and then you look at the American landscape right now, and it's debtor than shit. You're like, oh, yeah, keys to the kingdom. Here you go. You just give it to them. It's that second component that I think is really going to push their chances of success in Congress over the line. No, who is putting money right now into American boxing other than what you have with this ZUFA boxing deal at Paramount?

Who's putting money in? Exactly. And then also to your point, you can say what you want about them, but they're very clearly able to build a very consistent and stable business. the rest of them you would argue apparently are not and then you can argue why that is but it's really funny i hear like eddie eddie match room by the way one of the few companies really successful still globally yes have regular shows and stuff like that but you hear odie hern being like this is going to be the biggest year for boxing the fuck it is there is no boxing like what are you talking about like it's in we're literally talking about like top rank shows in casinos like

on the floor at this point you know and that's why i think like you said everyone's talking about the R.E. act and stuff like that. It doesn't really matter what Zufo boxing looks like. It's the only one on fucking TV. Yeah. They're going to win by consistency. They're just going to win because who,

except for Middle East money in combat sports, who is putting money in combat sports right now? And by the way, bigger picture, that Middle Eastern money is already starting to go away. You can sort of see there's no elaborate massive trailers for these fights anymore. They're getting fewer and further between these fights. So then what they,

done is overly artificially inflated the boxers value, which means you're going to try and get them to fight again when the Saudi money's gone, they're not taking the money. So these fights get even further and further away. The whole sport is basically like, please don't leave Turkey. Because if you do, we actually are fucked. Yeah. It'll be a huge reset, but who's going to be there to collect the pieces when they drop and then rebuild them their own way? It's going to be Zufa. Like, they're the only one's position to do it. And if you don't get these big fights if you don't get these like Tio and Chagore's great fight

but if you don't get these fights done consistently people will drop off they'll just start watching other shit and then you can't get them back you know there's not a really a guy like a Mayweather who twice a year you were guaranteed people are going to tune in and watch boxing

you could argue Canello he's on the way out Crawford's just retired Usick like I heard they're announcing him and Wilder today maybe like these guys they're going the next like we talk about MMA being a transitional period fuck me when Fury

Joshua, Usik, Wilder all disappear. What's the heavyweight division that like? Derek Chisora fighting at 85. Francis Angano and Kubrat Pulev. You know what I mean? It's like it's just... How famous? How big is Moses Itama in England?

Inside boxing, pretty decent, but he's still got a long, long way to go. He has a crossed over yet? No, not even remotely. I don't think. I don't think he's even had the platform to do so. the reason why British boxing got so successful was Eddie Hernd and Sky Sports and Joshua all came together at the exact same time. So then, you know, Joshua was filling out Wembley Stadium against like, you know, Pervetkin

and people like that. Like the sport was just so strong because Sky Sports is the strongest platform there. Now it's not on Sky Sports. It's just the real estate it had in the company's sports culture has just diminished so much. So even whatever Atama's ceiling is, is going to be half of what Anthony Joshua could ever have achieved. You know, it's just not, there's not enough eyes on him anymore. How much do you blame the Saudi Arabian influence? I mean, so the argument has been, and I'm not, I'm not doing these bits like,

let's be mad at the government. I am, but we can put that aside for a separate point. I'm making a different one, which is, okay, so for example, part of the issue with American boxing right now is that there's many things. certainly not just one but one of them is that a lot of the bigger fights the last few years have been drained out and then put in Saudi Arabia you brought up Canela. Do canola did fucking Cinco de Mayo in in Saudi Arabia? And that's not just that's only one thing, but it's emblematic of a bunch of them.

Is the same problem visible in the UK where a bunch of the big fights? And again, it's a little bit different with time zones, but still they got pulled out of there and they got dumped in a place that they basically don't make a lot of sense of other than the guy who's paying for it wants it there yeah there there is an un i i can't sort maybe articulate it properly but that as someone who's been to the shows in saudi been i went to furiusic and stuff like that and as someone who's covered it and seen the numbers of the content we generate there is something about fights in saudi arabia that fans do not resonate with it's almost like it's non-canon it's almost like it doesn't count because it's in saudi like you just

You can just, whether it's the external sort of ramifications of the fight being there, whether it's the presentation they do with like the constant, you know, His Excellency and stuff like that, there's something about Saudi show, or maybe it's the fans that can't get drunk and shit like that, you know, can't sing Sweet Caroline. But there's something about Saudi shows that people don't click with. I don't know why. I can't put my finger on it, but it's almost like the fight itself doesn't, kind of doesn't count.

You know, it's like if you put Usik Fury in very, Vegas, that's one of the biggest heavyweight fights of all time. Because it was in Riyadh, it's kind of like, oh, that happened. I remember that. You know, maybe that's just me as someone who was there and experienced it. I wanted to, actually know, I'm going back eventually, so I love Riyadh. But, you know, as someone who was there, like, it just didn't feel like an earnest, honest, honest product of a great boxing fight. It felt like a very corporate put together thing, which it was. Yeah. I guess we'll have to see what happens in 2026. All right, that is it for our top five topics. All right, one more time. Let's bring Long Island and Luke back here. By the way, before we do this, what is the most you've ever spent at a strip club? Is four of the most 4K? He just, he disappeared. He ran away from that question. That was a you question. That's not a me question.

Yeah, I'm talking to you, fuckface. Oh, then. In one sitting. In one sitting. And you know what's even worse, bro? So I went to the private room and they had a TV play. like with YouTube on it to play music and I was so fucked up

she was like you can put everything you want on I put on my own MMA fight and made her watch that is that is fucking hey I'm paying you look at this shit I was like stop dancing watch and so I went for it left foot

what was her what was her review of your skills I think just confused but I definitely think she was grateful it was the easiest money she'd made all night yeah fuck that is fucking awesome my answer to this is uh 740 dollars that's the most i've ever spent

i would like to never go near one ever again apparently my self-control is not great uh what was the last time you went to one i think tutsies with craig i think that was enough to scare me off it you don't go to the Vegas ones though right no i went i went i've been the 7 000 one was at sapphires in Vegas but it's just like you know i have to be real fucked up to go to strip club and if i'm if i'm at that point they can basically just do what they want with me i'm just there as a vessel at that point i remember i remember this was dude this was two thousand man i want to say i could be wrong about this i want to say oh three oh four something

like that and i went to spearmint rhino so remember this is 20 years ago maybe more than that and uh i went to the ATM and this was back then and the ATM service charge in the inside the place itself. So just, just to get cash. You know, back then it was normally like a buck $52.2 you have to pay if you weren't using your own bank. It was $8 at Spearmint Rino. I was like, dude, what the fuck is up with these charges? And then you go and get a beer. And again, this is back when a beer is, you know, $3, $5 at most. And it was like, it was something like 12 or 15. I could not believe how insane the prices were. But that wasn't the one where I lost all the money. I think I spent like 300 bucks that day.

Do you know what a service charge is now at an ATM in a street club? No. $100 to get your own cash. What? Yes. That's why you ramp up the money so much because you can also you can only withdraw a max of like 400 bucks. Then you have to spend $100 on top of that.

But obviously they cost more than that. So it's just a fucking killer. And the lady, God bless them, stand beside you while you're withdrawing the cash. So there's this element of like, I don't want to look like a fucking cheat gun. Yeah. Dude, why don't we open one of these places and then just, I keep saying this. There's two things we need to do. One, open a place like this somewhere that's in desperate need, probably Pittsburgh.

And then two, why don't we just start an MMA token and then just rug pull all the MMA fans? We'll make $10 million. We can quit our jobs. And then who cares? Who cares? I would love to. To be honest, hey, Turkey, I'm open for business. Just give me money at this point.

I want Saudi money. I'll take it. You're right. Whatever you need. I just want to rug pull and leave. All right. Let's do it. We've got two new segments our guy Long Island Luke has helped us with.

Walk us through these. Let's do it. All right. Well, we'll just go one at a time. So first up, we got a higher or lower segment. Self-explanatory, higher or lower. Let's get started. Hell yeah.

Excuse me. I left my mic unmuted on that. All right, LT, you're up first. Higher or lower than two and a half. The amount of title defenses, Ilya, will have at lightweight in his current title run. So if he gets stripped, it does not, you know, different title run. I'll take the under. I'll take the under.

I think he's going to try to have two and then call it a day. Oscar, you can chime in here. I think lower. I think one. I think he'll fight Paddy. And to be honest, if Gagie wins, he might just fuck off to well away anyway. But I think he'll fight Paddy and then move up. He's like he is, he's got like the Connor thing.

Like he wants bigger and better. He doesn't want consistency. So I think he would fight Paddy because that's a big fight. It's a fun one, blah, blah, blah. But I don't think he has any interest in just sticking around and it's carving out a legacy of lightweight. The only thing I'll say is that divorces are expensive. He might. In the street.

But also, they take ages as well. Like, I don't know when he's coming back, man. That's like if it's really like affecting his mental state, which could well be if it's like custody as well. But he might not be here this year. You know, they take a fucking long time. And she looks very mean. So she looks like she's out for blood. I thought Luke might take the over

because, you know, the illy. I wish. I mean, I wish I could say that, but I just don't think that's realistic. All right. All right, Oscar, this one's for you. Higher or lower than three and a half, we'll say grams.

The amount of nose beers consumed in one night with Craig Jones. Yeah. It's obviously over. CJI was a big weekend, lads. I was curious. I was like, you would be upset with that question. All right.

LT. This one's for you. The amount of, amount of flushes you attempted before leaving Joseph A. Banks. That one time, did you, did you flush more than twice? Did you, did you just leave it there? I need more details on the story. Well, it has to be the over because it was a triple. So you triple flush on that, right?

Because it took that long to make it look something approximating normal. I mean, it looks like the place you would leave the waste products from a Civil War era, a field hospital. It was ugly. I was thinking you do two and then you're like well this clearly isn't working I'm just going to hit the road now it was three

all right Oscar back to you higher lower than five and a half the amount of UFC champions that will lose their belt in 2026 now I was that when you say lose you mean like in a fight not the apple uh let's just say whoever's champion right now will not be champion

at some point okay might get it back but you're going to lose it at some point. I'm going to not take too long. I'm going to say lower. I actually think the crop of champions we have now are pretty good. Like Islam, who's going to,

you know, tough guy to beat. Like Volcanovsky, I see beating Lopez and then I could see him beating a Movzar guy, you know, so he would stay there. Pidian, fucking looked unbelievable.

Like these guys are like pretty good crop of champions they have now. So I think we'll have some changes, but I think I could see, see that just being a bit less. LT, what are you taking on that? I'll take the over. Now, if the idea is, again, some drop the belt and then move up.

I mean, you know, I just feel like there's good, there's, the thing about it is, is every time I feel like there's never going to be movement, there's movement.

And for reasons you don't always expect, I agree, like guys like Hamzot, unless he drops it and goes to 205, by the way, but certainly I don't think there's any, I don't see any middleweight contender necessarily taking it off of them.

And I think Islam is also going to be pretty tough to beat. But, you know i mean yon i think yon is very talented but i could see umar beating him god only knows what's going to happen at flyweight between here and then volk is a little chiny and he may only have one more in him anyway like there's just a lot of ways

you can get that to say nothing at the women's side of the bracket you know i'm kind of with you i think it's over uh l t back to you though higher lower than seven and a half the amount of time shekel majority texts you to retweet an interview i know he just did a kela interview this week so how many times did he ask you for that or was it Amanda i don't know I will say that if he texted me seven or eight times, I'd fly to British Vancouver personally to throw his phone in the ocean. All right. So it's lower than that. I'm always being curious, you know, I don't know. Oscar, higher or lower than nine and a half. The amount of beers you consume on an average Friday night. So tonight.

The beers, no. Get about four beers in, then you switch to the vodka's. Sorry. What is your drink of choice? It's a very manly vodka. Sprite. That's your drink of choice. Yes, I'm a very sweet. If you include the vodka sprites, are we going over under nine and a half total drink? Yeah, it's easy. Yep, I'm not long for this world, boys.

Is vodka Sprite, is that a British thing, or is that just you being trash? No, yeah, but we call it a vodka lemonade over there. But yeah, I don't know how I got onto vodka Sprite. I think it was a university, but yeah, it just fucking goes down really quickly. I'm a very, like, compulsive drinker. you're like Sean Shirk so Sean Shirk did a famous interview on like a you not a USC embedded but like the precursor programming and he's eating this like I'm not this is my glass case right so this is my glasses aren't here but like he takes this bar of something and it's brown like darker than this almost like like a like a like a shit log and he's like he's like this is he's unwrapping it between workouts and the UFC's like what are you eating and he's like it's basically this paste he would make that would just be pure nutrients. that he would eat to refuel himself. And people are like, does it taste good?

And he's eating it and he stops and he looks up and he goes, I don't eat for taste. I eat for performance. And I was like, well, I eat for taste. I don't know all about the rest of you motherfuckers, you know. That's right. LT, higher or lower than one and a half, the amount of times Armand Sarukian has to fight before getting a title shot.

Oh, man, that is the big fucking question. I, mm. It's tough, right? I'm going to take the under. And the reason why is not because he wouldn't have to do it normally. I just feel like some kind of disaster or fucking incident is going to happen. And they're going to need him on short notice. And he's going to be like, oh, cool.

And then he'll jump to the front and this will all be forgiven. But like, if that doesn't happen, then he'll have to fight too. But I'll take the under officially. Oscar, what are you taking? I actually think the under because I think by the time he fights his next fight, the swell of like fans like he's being mistreated will have risen so much that actually his fighting for the title would be big in the same way below when leon eventually got there because eventually people were like below should get it then he got it i think it'll be the same so i think

he'll fight one more time against who i don't have a fucking clue actually it'll be a bit of a baller move if he just took a fight at well to wait to be honest but um like yeah i think he'll fight one more time and then that'll sort of work out with getting a title shop see i'm kind of taken the over because we know Ilya's going to presumably get the winner of Gaichi and Patty and like that's arguably in the summer and now like that person defends maybe and unless you can't come back for ages and they do an interim defense that's what yeah that's what I was thinking when Luke said his thing but uh Oscar over to you higher lower than 0.5 the amount of times Mike Bonn has slept over your house in the last

360 yeah I think I let him stay here a couple of days I think he's ironically staying here on Tuesday. So, yeah. I mean, you know, this is MMA. You guys go to a bang or something? What's going on? Yeah, we share it bad. We just talk about our feelings, you know, stare at the ceiling together. That's awesome. Luke, higher or lower than point five, the amount of

times John Jones fights in the UFC in 2026. I will take the over because I would be surprised if he doesn't fight one more time, but that probably is going to be it. Right? He'll get probably the

Poetan fight because Poetan wants it he wants it probably won't be on the UFC White House card although you know one never knows I mean I don't know I mean Dana doesn't want it I feel like the guy who lives in the White House is the one who's going to get to say

what he wants and he loves John Jones so this is true this is true however um I don't know dude John's capacity to fuck shit up is just endless you know I mean there's just a lot of ways that just doesn't happen. Nevertheless, I'll say one.

I'll go to, I'll take the over. All right. Oscar. I think, I think they'll do, I believe they'll probably do Pereira John at the White House. The only thing I think that could stop that, unbelievably,

is like, I can actually see a world where Derek Lewis wins, and Trump fucking loves Derek Lewis, and they do him against Pereira for an interim title. I could see that actually at the White House. That would be hilarious. But I think, I think eventually Trump will have a say,

they'll realize this is the only chance they get him back. They'll just do it. You know, why not? Pull the trigger on that, is my opinion. I'm taking the lower on it. I don't think John fights again. Why? Why is that? I don't know. My prediction last year was that Jones Aspinol happens in

2025. It did not. And now I'm just feeling even more pessimistic about him ever fighting again. So, I don't know. I'll see it. This one is for Oscar, I believe, yes. Higher, lower than three and a half, the amount of title fights on the UFC Whitehouse.

It's a good question. It's a Sunday. It's a Sunday so they could play with the timing in all kinds of ways. I think they'll do four because then that would be historic, right? I don't think they'll do the six or seven. That's been said,

but I think they'll do four. I think they'll be a women's title fight on there. I think the interim heavyweight title fight will be on there. I reckon they could do it for a beer. well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, someone, they'll be like a solid title fight, a BMF title fight,

the interim title fight, the interim title fight. They'll cover the whole base. That's my opinion. Yeah, I agree with that. That's my view, too. See, I feel like any more than three, they're just handicapping themselves for the rest of the year.

Oh, on pay-view, then I give a fuck. But to his point, if it's pay-per-view and it's BMF, it's less encumbered. I don't know. I just, I feel like, I'm going under, and someone else,

I was talking, I think it was Jose Youngs was saying he's like, what about if McGregor headlines, they're not going to put title fights under him? And I'm like, I think that at this, in the world, there's zero title fights on this card? What can you tell us about McGregor here? Well, I can't say anything with inside knowledge. I know they started talking.

But like, because the whole thing with not putting title fights on McGregor cards is because then everyone gets a cut of the pay-per-view, they lose money. The UFC would lose money by paying out people percentage of the pay-per-views gone and they just fix a fit a flat rate with these fighters, that's not the issue anymore.

So then it's like it doesn't really matter if they put championships on it. You know, just, yeah, I don't know, like Dana's comments that came out yesterday was a little bit weird to me. That's kind of like not what I'd been hearing. So I was a bit sort of taken aback by that. I do wonder if now we're entering into the public negotiations period of these cards. You know, I think a lot of guys are going to get like, well, we don't know. You know, I think we're going to get a lot of that from Dana in the next couple of weeks.

but yeah i i don't i see a world where they put title fights on now it just is like does connor main event or does he co-main event to a heavyweight title you know what i mean that that's does Connor want three rounds instead of five rounds shit like that there's a lot of stuff to play here with you know he's gonna fight at 70 or 55 i would assume 70 but that was what it was meant to be the last time right him and charlie yeah so i assume that but i don't know he's training l t higher lower than two and a half the amount of times oscar has asked you to borrow money since we've been live.

I'm curious. It's the under, but just barely. I got the over. You definitely sent me a link to like Adrian Bruner to his cash app. Oscar, higher or lower than eight and a half. The amount of months before pay-per-view

is reintroduced, even if just for one event. Yes, so we'll bring us to October. Yeah, so I, if it's going to be, they'll put the White House about a hundred bucks, right? That's the obvious one. Yeah, then it gets tricky right because there's no games.

They don't have any ticket sales. So they're going to want to recoup some money. So then I think if you do get a con, I just don't see a world where they give you a con a card for free. So I think that will be paid with you, the way else. That's my prediction. Luke. I'm going to take the over.

I still think they're going to try and make this work. I mean, it's been such a big publicity. point it's contracted revenue it's it's well beyond what they had even expected to get and they're a rosy scenario i i think they're going to try and keep it without it all right all right guys well that was higher or lower hopefully you enjoyed it uh it's fun segment next segment we got is called what's my age again uh basically i'm going to show you guys a picture of a fighter you have to tell me their exact age if you're wrong you then have to rate a tattoo one to 10 and even if you hate it you

have to at least say one nice thing about it. Okay. So this is called What's My Age Again? All right, guys, so fighter number one. B'Neil Daryush, Luke, how old is Benile Daryuch? I'm going to say flat 39. Oh, no way. He is 36 years old. Poor Benny, man. You just threw him under the bus like that.

uh l t rate this tattoo on a scale of one to two i mean i know i don't want to i don't you know i know uh ali had some neurodegenerative diseases i didn't know they were commemorating them this is a somewhere around a negative nine billion on a scale of one to ten it's like allie now say something nice about it i like that they try to immortalize Muhammad Ali. Okay. Luke, just for context, here's where this tattoo belongs.

Yes, that is Oscar Willis's what do you call that? Ribcage tattoo, whatever you want to call it. Sorry, Oscar. Don't hate it more than I do. Trust me. When did you fucking get that?

2017. Cost me $200. You got a $200 tattoo that big? Yes, I know. And after I got it done, I looked in the mirror. Guys, he and I had an argument during it. He's like, you keep flinching. I was like, it fucking hurts.

Like, we were literally arguing. And then at the end, I looked in the mirror and he went, what do you think? I went, well, it's there now. And I actually, I bumped into Ali's widow at an event. And I had a couple of cocktails. And I walked up to her. I went, I've got your dead husband tattooed on me. And she was like, what?

And then I just showed her. And she was just like, wow, you must really love Ali. I was like, thanks. Yeah. Where did you get this tattoo in the States? No, you can. Fuck, dude. It was brutal as well.

The ribs are the worst. My first tattoo was on my ribs and it fucked. Yeah. It hurt. Yeah. That's a terrible tattoo. You have a terrible tattoo. He's really,

really bad. I know. Long Island Luke, that was well played. That was well played. Oscar, your first fighter, Israel,

Adasania. How old is Israel Adasania? 36. You nailed it. Yes. I looked that one of the other day too. I looked it up before the show started. Wow.

Random that you chose to look that up. I will say we didn't even, I guess we did talk about Izzy earlier on this. I was going to say, I was going to say, not that random. Two more fighters we talked about earlier on this and you guys, whoa,

that was weird. You guys mentioned their age. So I'm like, fuck this, you know, we'll see what happens there. But Luke, your next fighter,

Mick Debeck Oralby. Oh, fuck me. Yeah. Um, I'm going to, to say 31. Oh man, you're again over exceeding.

He is 27 years old. 27 years old. 27 years old for Mick Debeck Oroby. Luke, your second tattoo, first of all, rate this 1 to 10 for me. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't call this negative $8 billion, but this is somewhere around

negative $7 billion. This is not a great idea or tattoo or just anything. Well, let's say something nice about it. The guy who is administering it is wearing latex gloves and that tells me there was some level of cleanliness

involved in this. Are you familiar with this tattoo at all, Lou? Is this Brian Ortega? Yeah, yeah. This is the Tracy Cortez Brian Ortega tattooed. You didn't know about this, Oscar? I didn't realize he got a name tattooed on his lip, right? Yeah. On the end of them. Disappeared. Yeah.

No big deal. My friend, when we were kids, my friend got, we're 17, the drinking age in the UK's 18, he got the year before he was born tattooed on his lips so he could go to bounce. Like, well, obviously, I wouldn't get this tattooed if I wasn't. And then a year later, we're like, well, now you're a fucking idiot. You got the wrong year tattooed on it anyway. That's actually hilarious.

Oscar, a fighter we already talked about earlier and I'm pretty sure you guys set his age. But, you know, we didn't plan this ahead. Hobocop. Well, I don't remember. For some reason, I feel like it's 34? fool? Oh, so close. He is 33, despite looking 45. But shout out to Hobocop. Nonetheless, Oscar, your tattoo to critique, if I can find it is somewhere here. Here it is. Rate that 1 to 10. Oh, be very careful. Oh, this is thanks.

Well, this is just a random one I found on Google. I typed shitty tattoos in this game. Yeah, I think it's a, I'm going to be, it's a solid six. Okay. Something nice about it. That's a lot, a little bit harder. You know what? It's very, it's very freedom. It's very America.

Eagle, you know, I like it. It's a very passionate tattoo. All right. Well, I mean, you kind of knew already, but yes, that is Luke Thomas's tattoo. You see the Instagram post there. Luke, how many years ago is that? years ago, something like that? 2020. Yeah. So, Jesus, has been that long? Yeah. First of all, this is not a six. This is a

solid eight, motherfucker. Wow. I was being quite nice with the six, to be honest. Oh, fuck off. You don't know what you're talking about. That's an excellent. Well, clearly I don't look at what I've got, but yes. Fair enough. All right. L.T. Your next fighter, your girl. Eileen Perez. Oh, God. Strong photo. I don't fucking know. Sign up to any fans, you can see how old the insides of her are. Okay. She does the whole bit.

She shows the whole bit. Yes. Now he's interesting. Oh, shit. No, not my type. Not my type. Not my type. I'll say 30.

Oh, so close. She is 31. LT. Rate this tat. 1 to 10 for me. Well, that's a 10 out of 10. Let's be honest. That one's pretty good.

That one's pretty good. Compliment for it as well. I like how the shark is grimacing, and then the guy who's getting bitten is just looking like it's, you know, he's like waiting on his eggs to fry, you know? Yeah, that's a good one. Oscar, your next fighter, again, someone we mentioned earlier in the episode, but that proved not to mean anything with Hobocop. Raoul Rosas Jr.

21? Yes. Man, this is bullshit that you gave him two names. I should have realized we were going to talk about it, but I will say I made all these fight. I sent all these to Mikey on Wednesday. And then we made the rundown yesterday. LT, back to you. Cody Garbrand.

Oh, good one. I don't think he's that old. I'm going to say 35. Oh, again, one year off. He has 34 years old. Fuck. And I was in my head going to say, say 34 and then I went up one. Fuck me, man. L.T.

Rate this tat. Make America skate again. Solid seven and a half. All right. Something nice about it. The lettering is the N is a little bit messed up in the eye and again, but it's well done. This is a well done tattoo.

Very legible. Yes. Say something nice about it. You're like, the eye is fucked up. but in general the lettering was good in general Oscar back to you Andre touchy

feely fuck I could be way off with this but I'm gonna say 36 you also are one year off he is 35 years old Oscar I got one of your other tattoos here rated for me no that's not mine but that is obviously

a 10 out of 10 and one I would like to replicate compliment as well I guess wanting to replicated it as a compliment. There you go, yeah. What's, what can you complain about it? There you go. LT, your last fighter is

Muhammad Makaya. Okay. Shitballs. I feel like I can get tripped. I'm gonna just go with my gut. I'm gonna say 29. My man's is only 25 years. What?

Yeah. That's why like USC definitely needs to resign him. Oh, I mean, they've been needed to resign him for a while now. He's really come along, but I didn't realize he was just 25. Holy smokes.

LT, your last tat to rate 1 to 10 on this. Wait, wait. Is it pixelated, the tattoo? No. The photo is probably just shitty. You know, Google images. I was going to say, if the tattoo itself is actually pixelated, then it's a 10 out of 10.

No, it's, you know, it's just a shitty. It's just a bullshit-ass Union Jack. But it's done like a crayon, like a kid. It's very, yeah, it's very. I'll give it a three. Okay. And then, uh, accomplice. I like the union jack

all right tell that to this man's face on his fucking chest all right yeah when did you when did you get that one that's when I moved to the states I was homesick and I thought you know what I'm going to get this on me

and then all my friends went oh we didn't know you were racist now is it racist to get the union jack it's just like very like being in the UK being overly patriotic is usually a sign that you're a bit right wing it's not racist but the racist people do it. But like if you have a flag outside your house, it's like, you don't like curry.

You know, it's one of those. You don't like curry. Dude, the Indian food in London is maybe the best I've ever had. It's insane. Ironically, yeah. It's like, I think the best dishes in the UK are French, Italian and Indian, which says a lot about our own cuisine. It's all right. You got the best. It's a melting pot. Oscar, your last fighter. Lupi Godineas. I actually think she's quite young. Is she 29? That's a compliment to her because she is 32 years old.

Oscar, last hat for you to rate. How about this one? Ah, but it's, you're showing it. It's hard to read. I can't even see what the fuck it is, to be honest. Yeah, exactly. No one really knows what it is. That's part of it.

I know what it is. It looks like some anime shit, to be honest with it. What is it? Oh, there it is on your forearm. I'm just skipping right to it. Great photo of you. What do we rating that? I'll be honest, Luke.

I don't love it. Yeah, that's fine. I think it's a three out of ten. But the compliment is it's attached to a very nice man. That is a very nice guy. It's the letter V. It's upside down. If my arm is hanging, obviously, you can see it.

And with the imagery you're looking at there, nobody knows what it is. They found, I got this tattoo in Cartagena, Columbia, I think, a couple of years ago for my daughter. and the imagery that you see was found on what they considered to be pre-Columbian money. And it was sort of ubiquitous. And I wanted something that was tied to the earth, but not expressly to the Colombian government. So the tattoo guy was like, well, why don't we just use the letter V with this pre-Columbian imagery?

And I was like, let's do it. So there you go. I'm honest, Luke. Have you ever worn this shirt outside of this photo? Never. Yeah. I came across that photo. I was like, I've never seen him in this shirt.

Nor would I ever. I would give that to a homeless person. Held a gunpoint to take that photo. I would say, I have that shirt. That's a great shirt. But, you know, guys,

that was what's my age again? Hey, I don't mind that one. I didn't get a single one right, but what are you going to do? You know, we had fun tattoos to show for it. One more I wanted Oscar to rate real quick is,

uh, how about Damien the Dach's morning combat text? Yeah, this is not me. Yeah. The knuckles are messed up. The knuckles are messed up. I love the,

I love the respect. We had a go. guy, bro. He got the Mac life tattooed on him and then we changed our logo. Oh, that's fucked. Not because, but I remember seeing it being like, because also. It's not as bad as having Don Davis on your leg, you know, behind Alfie Davis. That's a little weird. Before I, before I exit off the screen, I just want to say prop quiz finale today, tournament finale, Aaron Bronzetter versus Gaff Pierre, $100 on the line. And I'm not saying who wins, but like probably doesn't go the way you think it goes.

That's all I'm saying. That's the hint there. That's the hit. All right. Oscar, it has been wonderful to have you here. Thank you for spending your morning with us. How can folks find what you do? Oscar S. Willis on Instagram or Twitter or the MacLife YouTube channel will be giving you all the coverage of the next two numbered events this week and the week after. Should be good to be back at work. Are you going to Australia? Yep.

So actually I fly, on Sunday I fly to London. for a day for a funeral, then I fly back here, do the Vegas show, then fly to Sydney, and then to New Zealand, and then back here. What are you doing in New Zealand?

I'm watching Dan Hooker's big fat fence fight in his garden. Oh, right. All right. Very good. If you want to follow the rest of our socials, we'll put them up here on the screen. You can see them there below.

We'll get stuff for, we're Morning Combat on TikTok, on Instagram, on YouTube, you name it. You can see all of my socials, as well as Oscars. Don't one more time, morning combat dot shop for the merch,

the posters we're going to put for just $25 and we'll sign them. And of course, all of this will only last until the 31st, essentially 11.50m. at night on the East Coast on January 31st. Oscar, great job. I really appreciate it. The fights return next week. They are back. And I'm sure we'll have you back on the show. Thank you for joining me, man. I really appreciate it. There he is. That's Oscar. I'm Luke for Long Island, Luke and everybody here on the show.

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