MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - 🚨 David Benavidez vs. Demetrius Andrade Results | Jermall Charlo | Morning Kombat Instant Reaction

Episode Date: November 26, 2023

Luke Thomas has you covered with an instant reaction to Showtime's final PPV card. Luke Thomas breaks down David Benavidez vs. Demetrius Andrade, Jermall Charlo vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. and much more. Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. This is the Morning Combat, Benavidez, Andrade, post-fight show. I am here in the bomb shelter. Brian Campbell, you may have just seen him on the pay-per-view broadcast. He actually got the call to do that

like very, very last minute. He was supposed to be here with us today. And as you can see, he's not. So going back to this very quickly, as you can see, in his absence, we've got the hat that I bought him, the Rafael Nunez airport in Cartagena, Colombia. I bought him that hat. So he'll, that will be our stand in for him. But here I am. The pay-per-view is over. It is in the books. the books that is the sadly that is the last showtime pay-per-view there is one more showtime card but i want to get to everything that we just saw so let's do the standard disclaimer thumbs up on the video thank you guys so much for watching i know we typically do our post-fight shows around mma content but this was a fun one this is an important

one this was the last one so for this particular series anyway so I wanted to make sure that we got here just the same. Please subscribe if you haven't as well. And also, for everyone who stayed up, thank you so much. For everyone who followed our coverage this past week, for everyone I saw at the PFL yesterday, shouts to y'all. Really appreciate that. So everyone who's watching our content, whether it's MMA or boxing, hey, I greatly appreciate it.

You can see the socials below there for BC and I. Hey, I got to say, BC did a great job. Except BC, why did you Roy Firestone Charlo? Just trying to make him cry, huh? What was that? Do you guys see that? Oh, Charlo was just like, please don't make me cry. BC was like, tell me about all the pain you've been suffering.

So I don't know how he feels about that. But other than that, I thought BC did a phenomenal job. All right. We have a lot to get to here for this post-fight show. Not a moment to lose. Let's get to the results here if we can. David Benavidez defeats Demetrius Andrade in your main event, and he does so.

Essentially, Demetrius Andrade corner informed the referee they did not want to continue in the four and then the referee waves it so it's technically a ref stoppage but it's really a corner stoppage and the timing would be three minutes of round six but essentially after round six between round six and round seven um a couple things to sort of stand out to me this was maybe one of the more entertaining fights Demetrius Andrade's ever had. The common complaint about him is that he'll fight really well for four rounds-ish or something like that and then kind of coast on the back end. You heard them say that he had brought in Victor Conte to make sure that he had the cardiovascular conditioning

or, you know, otherwise the ability to do what he wants to do late into the fight. Didn't end up getting there. And by the way, Conte, it turns out, had him rehydrate to 190 pounds today, which I just saw, so he could bully the bully. That did not work. That rehydration strategy did not work whatsoever. So something to consider there.

But the story of this fight is really the story of David Benavidez. Here he is now, Caleb Plant, and now Demetrius Andrade, Back-to-back fights. He wins. This was technically a bout for the interim super middleweight WBC fight, but what it really meant was the Canelo sweepstakes, which we'll get to as well. But I want to tie two different things together. Do you guys remember, we had Breadman in studio, Stephen Edwards, shouts to the Philly legend himself. We had him here in studio, Stephen Edwards. Shouts to the Philly legend himself. We had him here in studio.

And one thing I had asked him about was if you look at the tape, and you even saw Al Bernstein mention it, don't go square, but he goes square all the time with Andrade. There's a YouTube channel. I want to give them a shout-out as well. I'm going to tie it all together, called Boxing Gems. Boxing Gems is just really phenomenal work. They really do great breakdowns for boxing. a shout out as well i'm going to tie it all together called boxing gems uh boxing gems is just sort of really phenomenal work they really do great uh breakdowns for boxing and in the preview

to this they never say that one thing will be the dictating factor or not but that these are the way this line up that of course he's not the only one who pointed this out but certainly they did that you would see benavidez go square with guys right right? He's not bladed. He's coming straight on and creates a big target. And that could potentially be a problem. In fact, you saw at the end of the first round, Andrade intercepted him with a big right hand. But what did Breadman say when I brought up the fact that there really is a lot of tape showing him going square?

And there are risks associated. What he pointed out was, right, but look at his offensive output, even as he does that. He does go square partly for lateral movement, so he can go side to side. But the other issue is he fires back. He fires back a lot. And as a result, he is kind of cheating the system by going square. You would never want to do that under more technical terms, more technical considerations. But he does it for some exchanges in the positive direction for his offense. I think you saw that here tonight.

Now, really what ended up being the bigger story in terms of the actual matter-of-fact punches that led to something beginning the decline of Andrade, it was a big right hand. Because what you also saw from benavidez was creating a bunch of different looks you know what's interesting is that andrade was landing really well his combinations early were i mean he was throwing a 10 punch combinations he was mixing up the looks he was mixing up the targeting he was mixing up the angles but slowly benavidez started to do the

same in his own way but he did do it and you actually see uh Andrade lean back and kind of have his hands up I don't know if they were crossed or not I have to go back and look at the tape but he's expecting a shot to come to the right because he had lowered his level and then instead he came over the top and cracked him above his gloves you can see the eyes of Andrade roll back in his head like he had not been hit like that maybe ever in his career. He's been down before, but he got rocked in this contest and in that particular punch. So the story of the fight was, I think, correctly told to us ultimately by Al Bernstein, which is that if you can really stick to the jab, if you can move, you can actually slow him down.

If you can do that for 12 rounds, congratulations. You can beat him, but the margin or you have to hurt him on your own. But anything in between, he's just going to eat, get better at problem solving, set up his own offense, land on you. And once he does, then the defense that you show him just begins to diminish. And once it diminishes, once one crack begins to open in the rock, the entire apparatus begins to fall because his ability to snowball, as Breadman called it, his ability to move downhill on guys is so amazing. He's got shots at long range. He can change up the look, as we just mentioned.

He's also got tons of short-range punches. The uppercuts from either side were great. By the way, being square like that enables him to get to some of these important positions he can fire chopping shots over the top there was another one where he faked the same way had Andre going the same way and then came over the side with the left so he is the guy also mixing up everything mixing up the looks mixing up the location mixing up the targeting mixing up the setups while using that forward pressure, even with some of the trade-offs he makes by going square. And again, high offense here, right above the, right above the waist, covering a little bit of the face, hiding under here,

right? So hands up defense, right? He's not trying to out slick you with his defense for the most part, but that enables him to return fire right there. This was only, I believe, the second fight of Andrade's career that took place at this weight class, 168 pounds. And you could arguably make a case that if the Canelo fight doesn't materialize, could David Benavidez take a fight at 175 pounds? He could. He actually could do that. So there was a bit of a size difference more naturally between these two guys but that but that performance ultimately that Benavidez turned into Nightman if that wasn't the kind of let me just say this I don't know what's going to happen between David Benavidez and Canelo Alvarez I don't know what's going to happen between David Benavidez and Canelo Alvarez. I don't know how any future negotiations between them might go.

I don't know what Canelo may or may not require for that to happen. Who is to say? I hope we get to see it. I don't know if we will. But I will say this. Auditions for fights against superstars like that, not just as a popular attraction, but the unified champion in the weight class,

they don't come more impressive than this, right? This guy was, Andre was supposed to be a defensive slickster, was supposed to be the guy who obviously hadn't lost in 15 years, 32-0, he's 35 years old, right? He has everyone remarked about his skill, all true things. Everyone remarked about his defensive responsibility, all true things. David Benavidez chopped through him like a machete in dense jungle, just slicing through everything.

He cut him to pieces by the end of that fight. Not quite literally. He wasn't bleeding in that sense, but he was barely hanging on to consciousness, barely hanging on to balance, barely hanging on to that fight continuing. He was rattled, battered. He looked like he had been on a storm on a boat in the Arctic that barely survived some kind of, you know, terrible surge of water over and over and over again for the entire evening like he just looked weathered by the end of that contest because david benavidez's ability to put punches together combinations together to find opening at ranges openings at angles big power at distance changing

up the looks changing up the targeting and once as i said it before once that crack in the armor begins to show he will rip open everything else. He barges through, man, like the Kool-Aid man through the side of a wall once he sees a little bit of that brick breaking. That's all he needs to do, and then it is over for you. We have some stats. I'd like to take a look at them if we can here, please. Let's throw those up on the screen if you got them. These are the CompuBox stats.

They might be a little bit hard to read obviously benavidez on the top line andre on the bottom line there are of course only six rounds so there you can see it total punches for each guy 117 for benavidez just 68 for andre jabs of course andre was going to be a little bit better with that 19th to benavidez is 15 but the jab is not a super essential part of Benavidez's. In fact, some of the early punches he was able to land in that contest were the result of very clever timed right hands. Excuse me, back hands, I should say. Yeah, right hands. What am I saying?

And then you go to power punches, 102, nearly 40% of them, 38.6 to andrade's 49 i he just got overwhelmed at the end of the fifth the referee warns him you got to show me something excuse me i think it was uh at the end of the fourth no end of the fifth yes end of the fifth they say you got to show me something the fight continues into the sixth he gets warned in the sixth to show him something. They go back to the stool. His corner says, you got to show me something. And I guess they didn't like what they saw. So then they called it there. By the way, good call by the corner.

Good call by the corner. He was done. He was cooked. That was only going to go very, very badly for him. He does not need and did not ultimately, thank goodness, take any unnecessary punishment on the second half of that contest so his corner really did him a favor for the MMA fans who watch I you know I know that boxing creates different dilemmas and different abilities for corners to more frequently check

in with their fighter right three minute rounds as opposed to these five sort of long intervals and whatnot but the corner really I I think, saved him from – I mean, they could have called that one a round earlier. But, okay, you spotted him the sixth. After that, they didn't have to give him anything. David Benavidez is one of the most electric talents in the sport of boxing. You heard the crowd there. Dude, let's talk about that Canelo fight, shall we?

I see people saying online, like, you know, everyone on my timeline wants to see David Benavidez fight Canelo Alvarez. Did you hear the crowd roar when David Benavidez said that? He asked the crowd, who wants to see me fight Canelo Alvarez? I mean, they tore the roof off that place with their applause. Everyone in that facility tonight, in the Michelob Ultra Arena, never had a Michelob Ultra, but should I be mean to Michelob Ultra? I'll just leave it alone.

What I'll say is he tore the roof off that place. And how many times have you seen a guy ask for a fight like that? And, you know, listen, sometimes there's a tepid reaction or, you know, there's a decent pop. No. This is not just a—I mean, dude, the layers of what makes that fight tremendous are overwhelming. Number one, that would be a huge pay-per-view. Now, obviously, Canelo Alvarez typically does really great pay-per-view numbers, but nonetheless nonetheless this would be one among them this idea about battling battling for the adoration of the mexican fight fans i think is an interesting angle i'd be

curious to see more and talk more to a mexican fight fan to get a better understanding of things but certainly that rivalry is now has only grown here this evening and also it'd be for the belts in this weight class and if benavidez were able to win, it would be almost a passing of the torch moment as well, even though Canelo's 33, he's a bit of an older 33. The levels at which that fight is important and needs to happen and should happen and there's a market for, it is simply undeniable.

It is simply undeniable. I don't have to convince you. It's quite obvious it would sell well. It's quite obvious the fans want it. There is clearly, by virtue of Can to make you think that he has a chance and should get it. And he's the interim champion for the WBC anyway. He's the number one contender, basically. And everything else I just mentioned. What would be the argument for not doing it? Everything you would want to justify making a fight, everything you would want to not really

justify making it, but showing why it has importance from a historical stakes standpoint, for current supremacy, for the box office, it checks every single box along the way. Did the guy earn it? Yes. Would it sell well? Yes. Is it important for one of the most rock-ribbed fight communities on earth? Yes. Would it be exciting? Yes. I mean, I could keep doing this all day long. It's not hard to sell this fight. It's one of the best fights you can make in boxing. It's one of the biggest fights you can make in boxing. And it's one of the most important ones, just the same. David Benavidez in 2024, I'll say it, he must fight Canelo Alvarez. We cannot make these people do anything that they don't want to do. Boxing fans are, I think, always quite right to be skeptical about what ultimately can be produced when, you know, there is a lot of friction involved in making fights with the biggest stars,

and in particular with potential rivalries like this one. I don't know what will happen. I cannot say. Your guess is as good, probably much better than mine. But that fight, absolutely, no questions asked, needs to happen. It will be a travesty if in 2024, Canelo Alvarez and David Benavidez do not fight. What fight would you rather see either of them do? Are you seriously going to tell me you'd rather, you would rather, you would prefer to see Canelo Alvarez versus Jaime Munguia. You'd prefer that. Stop lying.

Stop lying. You'd prefer to see David Benavidez versus David Morel. Now hear me out. I would love to see that. I would love to see that. But the size and the scope of a fight against Canelo Alvarez makes that one a much better choice for me.

You have this ascendant, powerful force in the weight class, in David Benavidez, trying to kick the door down to an opportunity against the guy who's got the belts in the weight class. They're both basically Mexican. I'm going to say basically. I mean, David Benavidez does have some Ecuadorian roots, but they're both basically Mexican I'm going to say basically, I mean David Benavidez does have some Ecuadorian roots but they're Mexican which is arguably the most important and certainly one of the most important rock ribbed fight communities in this sport

dude, what the fuck could the argument possibly be to not want to see that and to not make it oh Canelo might not make it, yeah he might not what does that have to do with what you and I want what does that have to do with what you and I want? What does that have to do with what you and I deserve as fight fans? Deserves a strong word,

but what the sport would benefit from? That is the fight to make. That is perhaps the most important fight to make in boxing in 2024. Excuse me. I'm sure that's debatable, and I'm sure other people will have different kinds of favorites. I cannot say that I speak for all of boxing when I say that, but I do feel very comfortable

in saying, if that's not the biggest, it's on the absolute short list. And again, the ones that we most want to see and I don't blame Canelo for what ultimately Jermell Charlo failed to provide with that experience not his fault not his fault but I do want to see Canelo tested I want to see Canelo tested against a guy who's 26 years old, who is gigantic for the weight class, who can take a punch like there's no tomorrow, who has ridiculous hand speed, who has ridiculous offense, who breaks some of the rules of conventionality

or typical sort of boxing standards, and in so doing creates absolute massacres out there massacres dude andre had moments in that contest where he not only landed good combinations but good return fire i think even in that fifth round perhaps he had eaten three or four good punches several of them hard uppercuts benavidez ate it like it was was a Scooby snack and then just marched on into him. It did nothing. It didn't slow him down. It didn't discipline him. It didn't deter him. It changed nothing about his game. It only made his sadism more apparent. He just leaned into it afterwards. Crazy. Absolutely crazy what he was able to show with that performance.

Say that again? Luke in Long Island, am I here? Okay, okay, all right, all right. So I don't know about you folks, but the choice seems clear to me. And by the way, we should note, this was, as I mentioned, this was the last pay-per-view on Showtime. The promoter in this particular case, PBC, Premier Boxing Champions, I do not know where they will go in 2024. I wish I did. I do not. Presumably, though, if you've got Tank Davis and you've got Crawford and Spence and you've got two Canelo fights, including potentially this one, I am confident that they'll reach some kind of broadcast deal somewhere. I just don't know where. But wherever they end up, this fight has to be on the short list of must-sees, must-haves. I cannot imagine a world, well, I can imagine a world. Let me stop there. I can absolutely imagine a world where we don't but what i will say is this

um 2023 was a great year in boxing in large part because many things went the right way in terms of timing and opportunity and change in the industry but it was also a really good year because guys went for it. Fighters took risks. I was at that press conference when Errol Spence, who ultimately took a bit of an ass beating in accepting that fight with Bud Crawford, but he did say something that has resonated with me, which is we have to show people it matters to take risk. We have to show people it's lucrative.

We have to show people that the fans will respond. We have to show people that risk is not a dirty word. It's not a thing to always avoid. You can't be stupid with it, but you should not avoid it. You should embrace it and use it to your benefit. That's why 2023 was great. That's why it was great. You had a lot of guys doing that. We need more of that, certainly in 2024. I hope we get it in this particular circumstance. Canelo has certainly done enough to probably go into the Hall of Fame, has done enough to etch his name into the legends of boxing, Mexican boxing, you name it.

He's done middleweight boxing, whatever. Any way you want to cut it, he's done that. But this is the most important fight he can make right now. This is the best fight he can make for him. This is the best fight he can make for us. This is the best fight he can make at middle this is the best fight he can make for him this is the best fight he can make for us this is the best fight he can make at middleweight there is nobody else there's no other choice more interesting than him now with one caveat which would be of course bud crawford i would take that one but they're gonna do the rematch clause with errol spence so i don't know i don't even know if pbc has any interest in that i would i would grant a bit

of an exception for that but still if i'm being just genuine the amount of glee i would get watching canelo alvarez to have to fight david benavidez and what red man said here today canelo would actually relish a fight like that because benavidez excuse me if andre had won you kind of have to hunt him down you got to go find him right Benavidez was able to do that, but it's a tougher thing to do for the smaller Canelo potentially. But Benavidez, you don't have to worry about that. He'll bring the fight to you, no problem. Canelo tends to like that. He tends to like guys who bring the fight to him as an effective and skilled and very heavy counterpuncher.

Also, Canelo Alvarez has a fucking chin like a fire hydrant, right? Hard to hurt that guy. Can you imagine him and David Benavidez crushing each other for 12 rounds if it even went that long and what that would mean? And the best thing is if Canelo, I mean, I don't want to say a loss wouldn't matter in either direction. It certainly would. But if the fight was good enough, you could run it back.

David Benavidez is only 26. There would be ways to have multiple versions of that. By the way, people said that was crazy when I said that about Spence Crawford. I did the Showtime podcast with Eric Raskin and Kieran Mulvaney, and I said, you're going to get two of them. I said this year, which was not true, but you almost did. But you are going to get two of them, right? That's a mutually reinforcing clause there, so it's a bit of a different situation.

But nevertheless, you'd be surprised with something like that anyway um if this was the canelo audition consider it quite past for me for david benavidez he did everything he needed to and then some um pretty goddamn effective uh quickly from some other pieces of this card, if I may, how about that Jermel Charlo fight, the co-main? Right? So he wins. I think it was 100 to 90. He had 199, 91, and then I think 198, 92, or 97, 93, something like that.

So here's the good news for Charlo. He beat the dog shit out of Jose Benavidez Jr. I mean, he took it to him. Nearly finished him off at the end of the 10th round. It was only a 10-round fight. It was a non-title fight. I mean, he beat the bags off of him with long-lasting combinations, deep uppercuts, sick one-twos.

He had a phenomenal jab in this contest as well. I mean, just a great job. Great job overall. Landed basically everything you could ask a guy to land, except one thing, or two things really. He didn't land a knockdown blow and he didn't land a knockout blow. And you'd be like, well, you know, does his power carry up this much? Dude, he was fighting a guy who had titles or certainly fought anyway at 140. I was there when Jose Benavidez Jr. BC also wasn't there.

That was the same night as the Amanda Nunes and Juliana Pena rematch. When Danny Garcia in Brooklyn at the Barclays Center fought Jose Benavidez Jr. at 154, and he got, I mean, Danny Garcia just boxed circles around him. You know, he stood up to that. You're like, okay, dude, Charlo is not just one weight class above. He missed weight bad for a 163 catchweight fight.

He was at 166. The guy was, I think, 166 and change. He was closer to 168 than he was 160. And they had, and Benavidez, by the way, he got paid for that too. He made about $250,000. They fined him $75,000 per pound for Benavidez Jr. to consider that contest. So it was three pounds plus some change, nearly $250,000 to do that. In any case, he couldn't knock him down.

He couldn't finish him. He did everything else he wanted to. So here's what I'm going to say. I know some people are like, well, if you can't knock down Benavidez Jr. Because, by the way, Terrence Crawford knocked him down in a much different way at a much different time but okay crawford uh stunned him quite badly if you can't even do that what can you do to which i would say i don't know man the guy's been off for nearly three rounds bit of uh brian campbell tried to make him cry several times alive on pay-per-view Hey, why ain't you crying?

Cry There he is Yes Hey, Brian Why did you make that guy cry? Why did you ask him one of the most fucked up questions about his life? We should just make farting noises You know how like the teacher in Charlie Brown goes We should just make farting noises for Brian whenever he's absent.

In any case, so I don't know how you guys felt about it. I'm not going to be too harsh on him. I didn't think it was great that he couldn't polish him off. But he looked fluid. He was landing in combination. He was throwing continually in combination. He was accurate. Shot selection was diverse.

Targeting was diverse. He just couldn't seem to, like, fully put him away. And I don't really know exactly what to attribute that to. I don't know if he was still a shell of himself. I don't know if Benavidez, I mean, I could tell Benavidez is tough, but maybe he's too tough for his own good. By the way, I don't know if he medically was transported to the hospital or not, which is something of a concern.

But I guess a good tune-up win for Charlo to be back, and he did in certain ways, I'm not going to say over-perform, but performed well enough to give you, restore some confidence, but I would not say this is the kind of performance that like where David Benavidez had, where he just passed it with flying colors. That's not. If this was a pass-fail test, I would still grade it a pass. I guess some people would not. I would still grade it a pass, but maybe barely, barely for me. So lots of positives, but the negative there is kind of a – I don't know how you could watch that and say he looked bad, but I don't know how you can watch that and say oh right he's

back on top and maybe you shouldn't expect that when a guy's been gone that long and had those many that many issues elsewhere on the card dude how about this fucking guy from fajardo puerto rico subriel matias and i'm going to mispronounce his name so please forgive me uh in a super lightweight contest 140 pounds against shojahan ergoshev or gosh how you're supposed to say it dude two absolute dynamite punchers ergoshev is a little bit more at distance uh but eventually matias just kind of walked him down and kind of smothered and overwhelmed him and he's got great offense um from a lot of more inside angles especially that left hook over the top he's fantastic dude by the end of the fifth round ergoshev says i don't want to fight anymore do you understand that's the fifth guy in a row

that matthias has done that to five fucking professional boxers good ones too in a row have been like dude fuck this this. This is fucking stupid. This guy hits like the Thor of Hammer, or the Hammer of Thor, excuse me. Are you shitting me? I'm not fighting this guy anymore. Fuck this shit. I'm out of here.

And who could blame them? And listen, I don't want to bring this up to be like some kind of bragging point. I don't really want to say that at all. But remember, sadly, Subrio Matias, we were talking about this earlier, he had the tragic fight actually in PG County just county just outside dc where he fought maxim dadashia maxim um sadly passed away in that contest uh but it gives you a sense that remember i think they waved it after

what the 11th round that contest something like that and i'm i'm not i'm not trying to do some kind of bit i'm not trying to sell you on his power by bringing up something more but i'm simply here to tell you people often use the way to describe someone's power as dangerous they'll say that but not somewhat euphemistically like yes if they land it can do damage but it's sort of ordinary even among these peers no subreal material matias has dangerous power dangerous power right five fucking guys in a row were like had enough i'm good i'm good on that dominant puncher dominant puncher dominant and literally if you're fighting that guy and i'm being dead serious i'm not trying to make some silly or or um you know goofy point about this i certainly hope i am not dude your guy will get hurt out there if you're not careful he will get hurt like if

you're fighting that guy and it's not going your way the corner should stop it as early as possible he will do fucking damage he has power and a little bit of durability as well he has power like you just don't see hardly at all i don't know where he would rank pound for pound among the best punchers in boxing but i could tell you i don't know how many times i can i mean how many times can you remember ever seeing a professional boxer who had five opponents in a row and by the way this was for a title tonight five opponents in a row being like that is that is fucking bonkers i've had enough of that shit like that's insane that's insane that's an insane statistic they call him nomas matias yeah dude they don't want

they don't want any of that fucking problems with him none and can you blame them look at what he can do and then last but not least lamont rose Jr. With a very spirited contest at 130 pounds with Hector Garcia, you might recall that Hector Garcia was the guy who fought in January of the beginning of this year, Tank Davis in D.C. He also got stopped, I think, right around the 6th or the 7th. He was not really a 135er. He went back to his natural weight class here. This was a back-and-forth affair in many parts. Ultimately, I thought Roach did better work.

He did get dropped at the end of the contest although it did look a little bit more like a shot to the back of the head not intentional but through the way in which they were competing it ended up being targeted there and that did get counted and that ultimately swayed the judges because it was a split decision so I think it was 114 113 in either direction than 116, 111, or 112. I would have had it closer to 116, 112 for Roach, who, by the way, is from Upper Marlboro, Maryland. Shouts to another gentleman from the DMV area. But if they don't count that, he probably loses.

So not great. Not great that it was that kind of close with the judges. But that was a spirited contest at 130 pounds, and he looks pretty great. Not great that it was that kind of close with the judges. But that was a spirited contest at 130 pounds. And he looked pretty great. I'm trying to see if there's anything, if I can. What? Vito. Yes.

So on the prelim card, we called two fights. Vito Milnicki taking on Alexis Salazar. That was supposed to be a 10-round welterweight contest, and Vito Milnicki iced him inside one round, knocked him down three times, fast hands, accurate punching, quick to the draw. The other guy was just kind of winging shots, and yeah, it just didn't go real well for him.

Once he got hurt, he could never really recover. He got knocked down two more times, as I indicated, and it was a straight right hand ultimately. It was a one-two that ultimately sat him down. He just couldn't ever get his legs back under him once he had a problem. So we had expected that one internally, I can tell you, to go the full distance. For Milnicki to get a win like that is fantastic. So we'll see what happens next for him.

I don't know. And then the other contest, Sergei Lipinets, excuse me, taking on Michelle Rivera. Michelle Rivera finally back after losing to Frank Martin. Frank Martin, a bit of a sniper, sharpshooter. He could be a very effective counterpuncher. That's not Lipinets. He's a forward motion, into you kind of guy. You heard Breadman break down all the things he was doing that tactically didn't make a lot of sense for him he did have some bright moments he was certainly a

very spirited competitor um but was technically overmatched i think it's probably a fair way to put that um in the end so yeah that was our night of boxing here the last showtime pay-per-view let me see if there's anything else here that's coming to me on the Twitter machine that I need to answer. But if not, we can call it a day. Someone says, I'm wiling it out with my hypothetical arguments to people who may not like the idea of Benavidez versus Alvarez. I'm fired up at nobody. Yes, it's a fair point. It's a fair point. It's a fair point.

Like everyone wants to see it. I just, I'm, I realize, I realize preaching to the choir. So in that sense, I will call it a day. That's funny. But I just hope I really, truly hope with a fight so obviously needed, so obviously ready to be sold. So obviously fun and so important. I really hope that we can get that in 2024. One of the best fights you can make in boxing. And as you can see, the demand is quite clear. All right, I'm done. That's it. We don't have to say anything else.

That's Brian Campbell. There he is. He is actually in Las Vegas. So safe travels to Brian Campbell. We will see him on Monday's MK. Thanks to everyone who tuned in. I really appreciate it. Hey, one more time for the socials if you can. One more time for the socials.

There it is. Be sure to tune in Monday. We'll get all of Brian's reaction. He, of course, as we just indicated and you saw, was there. We'll get his perspective from being on the ground. We'll react to this. Plus, hey, how about all that PFL stuff? That was definitely worth a fair amount of reaction.

I don't know if my video got up today or it'll go up tomorrow. I did a reaction actually tonight from my hotel room. So Monday's show, PFL reaction, BC's, Benavidez, Andrade reaction, all kinds of fun stuff. Be there, 11 a.m. in the east, 8 a.m. in the west. Cannot wait for it. Thank you guys so much. Thanks to the crew who stuck around here late on a Saturday. Happy Thanksgiving. It's over, but hey, it's still the Saturday of the West. Cannot wait for it. Thank you guys so much. Thanks to the crew who stuck around here late on a Saturday. Happy Thanksgiving.

It's over. But, hey, it's still the Saturday of the weekend. Thanks for spending time with me. I really appreciate it. We're out of here until Monday. Get some rest, bitches.