MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Errol Spence Jr. Stops Yordenis Ugas | Bellator 277 & UFC Vegas 51 Recaps | Ep. 290

Episode Date: April 18, 2022

Episode 290 of Morning Kombat with Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell is here as the boys breakdown a massive weekend in combat sports. In boxing, Errol Spence Jr. stopped Yordenis Ugas on SHOWTIME PPV. Will we finally get Spence vs. Crawford? Plus, in the UFC Belal Muhammad earned a decision victory over Vicente Luque. In Bellator, Patricio Pitbull got revenge over AJ McKee. Did the win prove Pitbull is better or did McKee get robbed by the judges? (10:30) - Spence Stops Ugas (37:00) - Belal Muhammad (51:00) - Borralho vs. Omar Gadzhiev (66:30) - McKee vs. Pitbull 2 (77:15) - Nemkov vs. Anderson (85:50) - Dm's from Donks Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But first things first, BC. Errol Spence stops Yordenis Ugas in the 10th round, basically, to claim three of the four welterweight world titles. Let's start here. What can we say about this win, and what can you say about how he did it? I think you can say without a question of a doubt that Errol Spence is one of the special fighters of this era, potentially on the road to becoming the welterweight in the post-Mayweather Pacquiao era. Obviously, it's going to come down to that showdown that we all want with Terrence Crawford. But when you look

at the questions against Errol Spence, Luke, the time off, the eye surgery, the accident before that, I mean, this could have been not only a tragic story had he never gotten back into the ring, but it could have been a story where, hey, a once great fighter went through some stuff, came back, and we found out what he still had left. Instead, Luke, at 32 years old, we're finding out a guy who's somehow finding out how to be better than he ever was. His commitment to the shape that he got himself into, hiring the nutritionist, making this weight cut, seeming with ease, not with ease.

You saw the effects on his body, but compared to the hard weight cuts he's had in the past, when he's able to go out there with the full skill set that he has and a gas tank that will break you down and destroy you. Luke, I made this comparison to you afterwards. I haven't seen an ability in a fighter to throw a four or five punch combination and then without even stepping back to take a breath, dive right back in with more since prime Manny Pacquiao, since the Manny Pacquiao that was leaping up weight classes

and just putting that hurricane fury on people. Errol Spence made a decision in this fight that he was going to go toe-to-toe with Ugas and that he believed in his skills, his chin, his offensive output to get Ugas out of there. Not only did he finish one of the best, you know, 15 fighters in the world today, he broke his damn face, Luke. I mean, he broke the guy's orbitable. And so when Errol Spence goes out on Twitter afterwards and says, hey, not bad for 15 months off, whatever, imagine what I'll be like

in the future. It's time we start believing him, Luke. I think the gap in the idea of who wins Spence Crawford, which has always sort of leaped based on their different performances. Who do you like more this time? I think that the stock on Spence could not be higher than it is today. And considering everything he went through, this is a pretty damn remarkable performance we saw because Ugas is that good and nobody does that to him. And yet we're actually here at age 32 going, is this the best version of Errol Spence we've ever seen? That's what I learned this weekend, Luke, that I don't really know Spence's ceiling.

And when he's going to go out there with that motor and the skills to back it up, answer me this, Luke, who the hell is going to stand in that kitchen and take that shit? Who? I don't know. Who? I don't know't know I mean here's the funny thing about this to me I did a preview and I watched a bunch of uh each of their fights and sort of settled on two for Errol Spence the Kell Brook and the Lamont Peterson fight kind of funny he broke I know Kell Brook was coming off of the face break to to Triple G when he went back down to face Errol Spence but then Errol Spence broke his other eye in that fight. And here he is breaking now the face of your Dennis Ugas.

You know, it's kind of funny. He doesn't seem to have, or he doesn't seem to land those one big monstrous shots like Tank Davis does. But dude, he clearly puts on a lot of volume on you as everyone can see, but he can hit real hard as well. He's got real debilitating power, is what I would say. It just slowly, quite literally, breaks these guys over time. But BC, here's why I bring this up, and looking at all their fights, I mean, I watched a bajillion

of their fights, trying to think of how they might match up. In some ways, they did match up how I thought, but in other ways, BC, yes, you have seen Errol Spence fight on the inside. Of course you have. You've seen him bully guys against the ropes. Of course you have. But you have not seen, up to this point, Errol Spence maintain that shoulder-to-shoulder, elbow-to-elbow position, firing offense, going side-to-side for as long as he did. This is the funny part to me, BC, and I think you're absolutely correct.

Not only did this guy not have any ring rust not only did he perform up to expectations and I wouldn't say he you know developed a new style that's not right either but he showed even a new gear in this fight on the comeback that's what's so remarkable wasn't like he had two fights under his belt and he really was you know firing on all cylinders in the last year or something. He did all of this off the layoff and then kind of fought in a way that I don't think a lot of folks, again, for as long as he did it, I don't think a lot of folks expected that. I certainly thought he would be a little bit more at range pushing someone like Ugas backwards.

Instead, he pushed him backwards, but he also pushed him in circles and side to side. Look at this. You can see the highlights. Look at how in close he is all the time. I got to tell you, man, everyone talks about his game being basic there's nothing basic about it he has a lot of basics in command I think is what Sean Porter meant but he has so many of them it just becomes overwhelming I'll tell you this BC we'll talk about Terrence Crawford in a minute I think Terrence Crawford probably has the flashier game of the two and he might be better. We'll have to see. But in terms of the overall, I would say depth and breadth of the game, Errol Spence, there's just not a lot of boxers like him. They just don't exist like this. There's not a lot of boxers like him today or really ever because I mean, that was Chocolatito

like his ability to sort of move his foot, rotate his stance, get off those different power shot combinations in close. And Luke, it's not that he didn't take shots in return. You know, he ate some big right-hand counters from Ugas, but the volume was so much that, I mean, it was swallowing Ugas up. You saw the final punch stats. He more than doubled him. Every category, he dominated him.

So Luke, to get people online, which I've seen, some incredible people do go, yeah, man, but what about the lack of head movement? Do you realize when you commit to that level of offensive production, you're going to stay in the strike zone? You know what I mean? You're going to get hit. It just so happens Spence has a world-class chin, an ability to, you know, recuperate on the fly,

make adjustments. And obviously that sixth round could have gone down the other way when he got, when he got hurt by a big shot, knocked his mouthpiece out, then ate two more clean shots when he took his eye off the ball. That could have been disastrous. That could have been a knockout loss. Yet he bit down, came on at the end of that round and really, again, answered every single question. So Luke, you know, I'm going to be updating my CBS Sports Boxing Top 10 Pound for Pound list tomorrow. But spoiler alert, you know, the top of it looks like this. Canelo Alvarez, number one.

Errol Spence Jr., number two. Terrence Crawford, number three. The Monster Inoue from Japan, number four. And then, you know, there's Usyk, there's Tyson Fury, there's a few others right after that. I got to ask you a very tough question here, Luke. Because what Canelo Alvarez did in the last year, we said, wow, what a crowded pound-for-pound field, yet here's an all-time great

in Canelo just widening that gap. How close is it in your eyes right now between one and two under my list of Canelo Alvarez and Errol Spence after this performance so someone asked me this question last week not specifically this one but something like it which is how do you measure pound for pound because some people will look at the accomplishments that everyone has and then try to weigh them and see whose resume allows them to be put at the front of the list assuming that they're you know doing things currently um and the other one was like who do you think is more talented it's harder to answer the second question without some reference to the first but i'll try to to do that here i actually don't think there is a um a narrow gap

in terms of resume between spence and canelo. I think Canelo moving up weight classes and what he has done fully unifying a weight class at, what was it, 168 he unified? You know, we're talking about just an extraordinary achievement. Spence has been gone for a while. Obviously, this performance over Saturday was amazing. But I'll say this. In terms of skills,

I don't think hardly anyone is better than Errol Spence. Canelo's got a bit of a different game. He's got a little bit more slickness to him. He does have that head movement. He's got more explosive counters, that kind of a thing. And those are things that Errol Spence doesn't have. But, dude, Errol Spence's ability to just continuously find openings, create openings, and then create this rush where every minute feels like

the last one was not nearly as dangerous and it just gets way worse, way quicker. He's sort of like this slow-moving tidal wave for the first half of the fight and then it's an avalanche after that. I mean, I don't know what the metaphor is, but that level of work rate, that level of discipline. I mean, think about breaking the faces of Kell Brook and Yordenis Ugas. I mean, part of it is that he has big power. Part of it is that he is so accurate with his punching, he's able to go to the same

target over and over and over again. Again, this wasn't the uppercut that dropped Leo Santa Cruz, you know, some monster shot. It was a continuous ability to thread a needle over and over and over and over again. And that is just so remarkable. So I'll keep Canelo at number one. But talent-wise, there is a negligible difference between them, even if there are some stylistic differences.

Yeah, I agree with you. And obviously, Canelo floating in weight, as you said, now he's going up to 175 in a fight against B-Ball. That's so much harder than people realize. That's sort of historical precedence. But Spence right there, Crawford after the Sean Porter knockout is right there. Obviously, Inouye, but man, we are talking about some potential all-timers putting on one great performance after another.

Man, Luke, man. You know, I mean, we all kind of, not we all, I predicted, look, this could be, you know, good chess match. It'll go the distance. It'll be 7-5, 8-4 Spence, but it'll be clear. No, no, Luke. I mean, it was one-way traffic, as you would say, for most of it after that early, close-ish start.

But I didn't think it would be this much of a destruction. I'll tell you what. Here's why I thought it could have been. I didn't see this exactly, like fighting on the inside. I thought it would be a different range. And so for that, like Errol Spence very much surprised me. But, dude, you know this as as well you've seen his fights just more than I have don't did it not feel like especially go back to the Kell Brook fight right and everyone

was like oh Kell Brook was a shell of himself after Triple G I don't sorry I don't believe that at all I I think he was you know somewhat compromised but a shell of himself no I'm sorry I do not believe that I don't think the performance shows that either but the point I'm trying to make is dude have you not noticed in Errol Spence fights there comes a point where they offer his opponents very stiff resistance and then all of a sudden it doesn't collapse but you can see it slipping through their grasp and dude he puts on the fucking gas pedal after that and I just felt like if he's able to pump the jab and continue to work dude that's the thing about uh about Spence part of it is yes he's got a lot of the basics and the

fundamentals and he brings them all together and it gives him a lot of options but the other part is dude he just doesn't stop and so because he takes things away from you and because he still has that the gas pedal to the floor by the time those late rounds come around I'm always curious like who the hell can stand up to that if he's been landing this is the challenge for Bud Crawford we'll talk about him in just a second but the challenge will be dude you're he's gonna keep touching you you have to find a way to stop that and I don't really know what the answer is in MMA you could just take him down in boxing you have to figure out a much more trickier or much trickier problem to solve.

And so I did think he was going to stop or at least really hammer Ugas late. My major takeaway was I didn't see him doing it with the shoulder inside like that. Well, this version of Spence is going to blow away the Keith Thurmans if they fight, you know, the whoever. Because I do think it's true, and I think it needs to be said again. I know I've been harping on this point this week, but his commitment to the game, Luke, even during that great calendar year of 2019, which ended, of course, with a bad accident, but started with a shutout pay-per-view performance against unbeaten Mikey Garcia, and then a fight of the year slugfest in which he overcame Sean Porter. That version of Spence was showing up to fights like drunk, drunk as shit, getting on camera and being bloated and blowing up in weight between fights.

Yet he was, what, pound for pound number three and, you know, on his way to becoming a unified champion. Dude, he's had a lot of humbling experiences outside of the ring. But luckily, luckily, he's still young enough to where now that he's got the full work ethic, it's not that he didn't work hard. He's always been in killer shape. He's an ex-Olympian. I mean, look, the guy's the real deal.

But to clean up that final 20% of what he is and to commit that now, he's going to destroy every welterweight not named Terrence crawford and that's that luke is why god would we have liked would we have loved this fight crawford spence you know back when they were 27 28 and first becoming champions of course right nobody wants to wait till mayweather and pacquiao are 38 and 36 but we're still talking about you're kind of fighting for this era, meaning, okay, it's Canelo's era, but in terms of the welterweight game,

you're still one and two, you're still unbeaten, you're still champions, and they may be better now at this age in terms of the experience mixed with the physical, where there's only one guy, I think, who can solve Spence. And dude, it is Crawford. Crawford's ability to box from the outside and switch stances, his ability to creatively land power shots. Luke, dude, seriously, if they made this fight in 2017, you'd been jumping out of your shorts. If they made it two years ago when we were already deep into, hey, boxing, you're fucking

killing us, bro. We deserve this fight. You still wouldn't have been excited. I think I'm more excited right now, Luke, because I think Spence found another gear. Crawford is, as we saw in the Sean Porter fight, he hasn't declined with age. When the challenge is a greater one, he gets greater. Terrence Crawford does. This ain't me company guy going, please put Spence crawford on showtime pay-per-view so i can be part of it and cash checks although that's in play believe that this is me as a fan going i think it's better now at this age these two all four belts undefeated let's let's fucking find out luke okay i'm fired let's talk about that i am fired the hell up luke i've got a hard-on from here to Hanover, Ohio, bro.

Okay, let's talk about this fight. First things first, do you think, based on the tweets, and just based on the reality, for folks who aren't aware, there are four major weight class titles, right? Spence has three, Crawford has the other one. There's no one else holding titles at this point. So before, remember when right at the moment Crawford left top rank, we were saying, okay, now you can make this fight.

And they were like, well, let's see what happens with Ugas. Okay, Ugas happened. Now we're at a situation where there is literally nothing left for them to do. And I'm glad you brought that up because I don't know who's going to beat Crawford either outside of Spence at 147. Like both of them are due probably. I mean, Crawford's a little bit older, but both of them after this, unless it's rematch, they're due for a 154 fight. I mean,

they can't, there's nobody else even approximating what they can do. And I'll say this, BC, Crawford allows himself, I mean, that's the word I'm using, allows himself to take more risk and therefore take more damage. So how plausible is a scenario where he hurts and even drops Errol Spence, but drops the fight due to the work rate and overwhelming firepower and force, but by the way, not just power, but of course all the smart decisions that he makes of Errol Spence? Look, it's in play because they're both that great where what you love about a fight is when you not only don't know who's going to win, and that's what great historical sort of 50-50 matchups are, unbeaten champion versus unbeaten champion. I mean, it's perfect. But you also don't know what it's going to look like.

You also don't know if they fought five times in the next two years, would each fight look completely different? It probably would when they're this great and they're this versatile. So the scenario you played out, it could happen. Do you know what other scenario could happen, Luke? Like Terrence Crawford in the beginning, when he first got on our radar, at 135 and he moved up to 140 to fill in last minute to fight Bratis Prescott on HBO, and it was like, who the hell is this guy?

Dude, those first early major TV appearances, Crawford just boxed from the outside, just used his length and his speed. You know, if he makes that decision, then I'm going to come there against Errol Spence and just try to prove that I can box him from the outside, just used his length and his speed. You know, if he makes that decision that I'm going to come there against Errol Spence and just try to prove that I'm going to, I can box him from the outside and out chess him. Dude, it's in play, right? Just like if you're Errol Spence and you say, you know what? We're pretty close in most categories, but I wonder if he can stand in that kitchen with me and cook on this level. Let's find that out. That's also in play, Luke. Or we can see

constant adjustments from both, which is probably more likely. Either way, it's like, not only is this maybe, to my argument, the best time for them to have faced each other, it's as 50-50, Luke, as it's ever been. And that's where it should be. That's where we need it to be. I have no idea, Luke, what this fight's going to look like, except for that it's going to be awesome. And it's our generation's gift. It's our Leonard Hearns. It's our De La Hoya Trinidad. It's our Mayweather Pacquiao. I keep saying that because it is.

These are two all-time great fighters coming together on Blandish to find out who's the man of this era. It just so happens each one has multiple ways to win this fight. Good God, give it to us. Give it to us right now. All the people involved in this network. I know Crawford's a free agent, which makes the likeliness of this happen next again, stronger than it's ever been. I don't know if we have the Terrence Crawford tweet, but you mix Spence going on the microphone afterwards and not doing anything but calling out Crawford Crawford tweeting at Spence it's time to make the fight I don't care if you're Steven Espinosa if you're a promoter if you're

a network guy if you're a if you're wrap hands for one of these two fighters let's get everybody in the same room and we're talking there's enough money for everybody it's about history now this is why you do this this is why you you know what I mean this is this is why you lift them weights in the offseason Bill Parcells, right? For moments like this. Let me ask you this. Let's skip Mayweather Pacquiao for a second. What is the most comparable fight to a Spence versus Crawford fight, not including Mayweather Pacquiao?

Something else you can think of that would fit that description. It's the two references I just gave you, meaning Ray Leonard versus Thomas Hearns. When Hearns was unbeaten, Leonard had the the one loss to duran but he avenged it and then of course you had unbeaten de la jolla versus unbeaten trinidad in 1999 and if you don't remember that fight although obviously it it didn't play out to our expectations and there was a you know compromised decision involved that was the biggest non-heavyweight pay-per-view in the history of the sport at that point so those two examples those guys were younger in their career, which is more about you'd prefer that as a fan, right, when guys are rising to face each other.

So it's a little bit more like Mayweather Pacquiao just from the age, but I think it's the perfect middle ground between these two fights, Luke. And is there another comparison? Well, it's not like we haven't ever had welterweight unifications, right? The one Saturday night was the 12th all-time. But again, they're both unbeaten. You know what I mean? And they're both in their absolute freaking prime.

Yeah, man. It compares to those others historically, Luke. And in some ways, it stands apart on its own. But it has to be next. It fucking has to be next. Whoever's out there that needs to hear this. I'm going to nail you to the wall here. Whoever's out there that needs to hear this, it has to be next.

Okay, I'm going to ask you, career on the line, does it happen this year? Does Spence versus Crawford take place in 2022? Because I'm going to tell you, I think it does. I was walking out of Arlington's uh own jerry world with you late saturday night luke and i said look you know i've never been more confident that it happens next give me what what did i say give me november give me give me november yeah november t-mobile arena in las vegas right because it's probably where they can make the most money ticket sale wise right i know our normal thinking is put it in the damn dome right eighty thousand dollar you're. No, you're not going to put it in Spence's backyard. You're going to put it in the

neutral site where you can make the most money and attract the most attention. If it's November of Las Vegas, and that's not me with industry knowledge, that's me going, makes sense to me. Look, it's a monster event. It's a little bit more critically loved than it will be commercial, but sold right, the commercial is going to catch up with it because it sells itself, right? Let's do it. I mean, get excited, guys. There's no, let's stop being the jaded boxing fans who are waiting for that heartbreak around the corner. And I'm here to tell you the heartbreak is still coming because it's boxing. It's unstructured. It's ridiculous, but it's also unrivaled in its build toward a big fight in the anticipation and this one spence crawford has everything we want we need it's time let's do it put me in the front row

luke heck let me call the fight all right let me call my shot let me point 32 world series let me point to the fence just let me be there all right yes damn. By the way, I get more requests for us to do fight companions than maybe for anything else. So we have to figure out a way to do that. I wouldn't do a fight companion for Spence versus Crawford, but we should probably figure that out. All right, before we go here on this topic, BC, let's talk about Ugas for a second.

There was a question about whether or not he lost stock here. I have to tell you, I don't think he did. He went up against a renewed Spence, who, yes, there were questions about him, but then when you saw what he turned in, and I gotta say, yes, the sixth round was a little weird with how Spence let his guard down and then got hit, but there were other moments, A, where Ugas was landing pretty well, I thought, actually, especially with the first six, and also the amount of heart that he showed. I think what most people are going to walk away from is, okay, he fought a guy who was a little bit too good for maybe everybody,

but he still made a very strong account of himself. I don't think Ugas' stock got hurt here. Do you? No, not at all. And, you know, you got some of those reactional tweets. And, again, I don't even know why I reference tweets. Look, you've been in my ear for as long as I've known you saying, you know, that's the 1% of people who have nothing else to do

and shouldn't have a say in this world, and you're giving it to them. But you did see, man, what a shitty game plan from Ugas. I don't think it was. I think he got run over by a train that he was prepared to fight, you know, an aggressive, fun chess match with, and it turned into a phone booth war. Now, it wasn't a sloppy, you know, all-time great brawl, but it was Spence, footwork, craft, setting up, just being relentless.

And here's the deal. Spence never took his foot off the gas. He never gassed out. He never needed to make adjustments outside of that right hand, which was catching him here and there. But again, that's the price you pay when you stand directly in front of a guy and at times square up to throw big combinations. Ugas, I think, was hoping that one of those big right hands

would sort of change the pace and the momentum a little bit and maybe he could start boxing and do what he does, which is slowly get closer and kind of piece you, pot shot you one at a time. Dude, against that storm, he never got off. And the fact that he still had moments in there shows you who he is and the fact that he endured his moments in there shows you who he is. And the fact that he endured the, you know, his face breaking to keep going down that road to try to find some way to be victorious.

Even if you criticize and say, OK, when the damage is adding up, shouldn't Nvugas have rotated to boxing from the outside? Look, that's not really his game, right? He's a guy who is crafty and technical, but does it in a dangerous spot. Gets close to you behind that high guard. Because most people, Luke, can't find him behind that high guard. Spence, like you said, was doing all kinds of craft that you could tell they were well-studied, well-prepared. Shout out to Derek James, the great trainer of Errol Spence, to fit those shots in around the guard, through it, over it.

I don't know what you could say, what Ugas should have done. You know what I mean? I don't think against a fighter this great who is this dialed in, there's really nothing you can do. No, there's nothing you could do. I mean, it is true that Spence made the fight

a little uglier than he normally does in order to open it up. But if you're a guy who stands like this, boxing at range, you know, far enough at the very, very end of your jab and then sticking and moving like a Sean Porter, it doesn't work. There's a certain amount of offensive opportunities built into each kind of style. Some have more, some have less, some have A, some have B, but there are limits to it. So that's just not really in the program in the program and I would also say like again

how many people are familiar with Ugas's catalog I was not until I had to do homework but then when I did dude he is the epitome of being careful and and precise and his timing I mean look go back and watch that Pacquiao fight his timing is impeccable the reason why it wasn't here is because Spence took that away from him by pushing into him and turning him and then pinning his glove to his own shoulder and then, you know, coming around the side. And then when he's bending over, he's eating uppercuts. When he's coming around, he's eating hooks. He didn't know where to go because Spence removed that element of the fight from him. Pacquiao could not do that. But Pacquiao and Errol Spence, I'm not sure anybody's

Errol Spence. So I don't think Ugas he did he fight the most brilliant fight you've ever seen no but but it was a good effort it was a it was a determined effort and to me his stock is just as high as it was going into the contest I didn't think he was going to win anyway so so there you go all right how good of a friend no one says this how good of a friend is your Dennis Ugas to Eroldis Chapman the Yankees closer that he made his nickname 54 milagros so i think the the latter is his mother's last name the the former is his best friend dude that shit's everywhere it's on his waist it's on his jacket it's i mean look i imagine imagine if if i put put my put the arms down on the battlefield and said luke for from here on out I'm for you in every category.

Imagine you walk around with some BC merch. I couldn't imagine. How good of a friend is Ugas? He's pretty great, but I mean, isn't it true that Chapman gave him like $20,000 to get back on his feet, and then he used that to move to Vegas and then reconstitute his career in

2016? I didn't know that. Chapman's a pretty good friend, too, you know? I wouldn't give you 20K, Luke, but I'd talk you off the ledge in a second, okay? Cinquenta y cuatro. Okay, with that out of the way, let's talk about, finally, I know our fans are very upset that we have delayed it this far, but here we go. Let's now talk about the UFC. Okay, so here's what happens in the main event we have

Bilal Muhammad getting a decision victory over Vicente Luque went all five rounds this is easily BC the best win of Muhammad's career it sets up a potential showdown with Colby Covington we'll talk about that in a second but first what did you make of the fight and what does this victory the seventh in a row now prove for muhammad i really like this performance and i didn't prepare to like it meaning we didn't get to watch it live you and i were we're at the spence fight you had it on your laptop we're kind of looking at it but we didn't get the full structure so you hear things luke you hear oh they went the distance and it was kind of boring and i don't know if we really learned i learned a lot luke i learned that Bilal Muhammad can, when needed to, can really make smart calculating adjustments

to take away all of the things that made his opponent good. And here's why this was key. Muhammad had lost by knockout back in 2016 to Luque. And then they both went on these really strong runs to put themselves in legit title contention. In Muhammad's mind, he'd already lost a gunfight against a shooter. In this case, Luke, he made such brilliant adjustments. Some of it was subtle footwork.

Some of it was just a smart attention to detail. But I think, and you can tell me if I'm crazy, it was offensive enough to where he had Luque figured out. Was it overly exciting? No. But it was one-timed takedown per round, seemingly. Decent enough top control to keep him offensive. And then any time they got on the feet, really just minimizing the angles and offensive opportunities.

And in the end, it kind of made Luque look a little bit limited for how much recent success he has had. And even when Luque slipped in that short left check hook that kind of rocked Muhammad, you saw great defensive responsibility to get his legs back and then an instant shot to change the momentum. I don't think this was a position, Luke, where even an exciting, emphatic knockout win to avenge his most recent loss would have allowed him to cut the line. We know where we're going right now. It's Kamaru Usman probably against Leon Edwards. Hamza just beat up Burns in

an all-time great war and could very well be next. This became more about surviving in advance. And the fact that Bilal not only realized that, was able to execute that over 25 minutes, which again, you're a Bilal Muhammad and you really want people to remember the name? You've got to be prepared for that title leap, which goes from three rounds to five rounds, where you have to fight differently in most cases. He did that in my eyes. So he had the perfect backup plan ready to make the call out for Colby. But I think he understood, Luke, I need to protect

where I am in the rankings. I'm not necessarily going to be able to leapfrog everybody, so let's go smart. I don't remember a performance as smart as this one from Muhammad, who tends to rely more on pressure in his biggest wins. This was layered, Luke. This was IQ heavy. Much respect to Bilal. This was a very strong performance of his. Let me read his wins since he lost to Jeff Neal in 2010, or his fights anyway, because there is one no contest against Edwards. Everyone knows the story there.

He beat Curtis Millinder. He beat Takashi Sato. He finished him. He beat Lyman Good. He beat Diego Lima. They had the eye issue against Edwards. That fight went 18 seconds or whatever. Then, and this is the turn, BC, he beats Demi and Maya via decision.

He beats Steven Thompson via decision. Folks, forget about that fight. And then he beats Vicente Luque. And you can say Thompson and Maya are two older guys. You can't say Luque is. I mean, I think you're absolutely right. And I thought his post-fight comments were really instructive from Muhammad, which was, I had to get over the five-round hump.

I had to get over the fact that this guy had beaten me before, knocked him out, or stopped him with strikes anyway. Previously, he had to get over that. And of course, as you indicated, Luque was pressuring him. He's usually the one doing the pressure. And so he had this really clever and, again, going back to the Errol Spence things, these guys who can keep up with their efforts late in fights, it just is such an extraordinary advantage.

He never stopped moving in this fight. He was never, very hardly at all, a stationary target. It's why Vicente Luque had a very hard time. And I also agree with you. Yes, I think Luque is the better striker of the two. And I think that left hook. But other things he threw showed that. But Muhammad was landing.

He was landing one-twos. He was landing jabs. He was landing from either stance, good combinations. I also think he was switching stances a lot, in part to set up different takedowns. Also, in part, he was getting them from different stances. Folks, go back and look at this. He had different kinds of takedowns.

I won't say each time, but there was enough of a variety of them where he wasn't going back to the well. He was using different setups and different entries and different finishes to get what he wanted. Dude, this was, I agree with you. This was a very smart, disciplined, layered approach, beating a high-quality opponent. And I'm going to say it one more time.

In a five-round fight, in a main event, against a guy who had not just beaten him before, but stopped him with strikes. He had to make sure, and you can tell in his prep he did. By the way, all through Ramadan, so he's fasting as long as the sun is up. I mean, that's just a crazy level of commitment to get all of that into all of this. He needed the time to get his game here. Maybe he had to learn from some of those mistakes along the way.

This is easily the very best version of Bilal Muhammad, and this win is as quality as they come in the welterweight division. I really love this for him, and I understand it wasn't super fan-friendly, BC. Fair enough. But if you like fighting, if you like educated fighting, you got a lot of it here. There was a lot to like. I think it was savvy, and I think it was an understanding, like I said,

of where he is in the rankings and what could be next. So I want to ask you this, Luke, because I thought the call-out of Colby was a good one. It makes sense. Do I think he'll get that fight? I'm not sure. I want to ask you where you think we're headed with some of these big names that keep popping up in our show. Connor, Nate, Dustin. And I know you're saying, well, what does that relate to this?

Because I think Colby is loosely related to that, too. So everyone seems to think, Luke, that my Jake Paul theory is shit, and it probably is, that the only reason we're not making Dustin versus Nate now is because the UFC would prefer to make Conor-Nate three as Nate's final fight.

Get that off in the octagon now. Let's not leave it open for those two to go somewhere else when their contract expires. So if that's the case, do you think Dustin goes the way of Colby, which would take this fight away from Bilal? What do you think is next for Bilal based upon those names I mentioned? It's interesting that everyone's calling out Colby after this.

He has his sights set on 155ers and other places, but these guys at the top of welterweight, they want a piece of him, whether it's Hamzat or whether it is Bilal. I don't think they'll do Hamzat versus Bilal. I could be wrong about that. There's obviously a possibility that could happen, but it seems unlikely. I don't know if there's a lot of, I don't know if there's a lot of juice behind that fight, but I love the Colby-Bilal fight a lot, actually. I mean, I like any fight with Colby because he's obviously so highly ranked, but let me see if we pull up the rankings, actually, to answer that because I'm not really sure

what a good answer is, to be honest with you. So here are the rankings as they stand. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me just read it out to you. Covington's at one. Edwards is at two. Edwards got the title shot. Hamzat, three.

Gilbert, four. Vicente, five. And Balal at six. Now, they'll move. So you could do Burns versus Muhammad. What do you think about that i mean look burns deserves after that performance and his willingness to take on that hamzat fight whatever he can get if this is the best burns can get it's just it's like this i wanted to jump in and say look it's not that i didn't i didn't remember that hamzat uh was

potentially linked to colby based on that dana white. But, Luke, if you're Colby, you do have to feel like you've been a pay-per-view headliner enough that you got a little bit of say. If UFC comes to Colby and goes, hey, bro, you want to fight Hamzat and ABC or do you want to fight Dustin? I mean, dude, I don't think Colby has any reason to go near Hamzat unless an interim title is at stake, Luke. That's just my two cents. Why would he, dude? Why would he? I agree agree with that but do you think UFC will actually do that though

they might call him and try it but if you're Colby you want nothing to do with him what are you gaining from that Luke you're not getting anything I know but they may not even offer him the Dustin fight I mean I don't know what they're gonna do I mean it's just so hard to tell I like the Gilbert Burns fight but you can't go backwards because he beat Steven. You could do potentially Jorge Masvidal, but he's all the way back at eight. I don't know if Bilal even wants that fight. And also, you know, given how, wouldn't you agree, given the state of Jorge and given the state of Bilal, and then this performance in particular, where he was so precise, his takedowns were well-timed. He knew exactly what his assignments were.

He stuck to it. He beats Jorge Masvidal if that version shows up. Oh, he does. But I do say this. I wouldn't put it past the UFC to offer that fight, though. Because unless they have a sort of BMF-type fight for Jorge, meaning unless, you know, they're going to do Conor, they're going to do Nate again, which they're not. They're not doing that right now.

You're not, you know, you can only put Jorge in there so deeply down in terms of a step down performance coming off of these title losses and the pay-per-view loss to Colby that, you know, Luke, it might be that time. It might be that time to put in there with Ball because if you're the UFC, it's a way to keep Ball busy in a featured role that could really up his potential marketability if he's going to stay on this road and eventually get a title shot. Seeing him beat up Jorge, maybe on ABC in a main event, Luke? Could be. Also, Sean Brady is right next to Jorge Masvidal in the rankings,

so that might be the direction that they go to because I know they want to promote him. Big MK fan. Big MK fan. We'll get him on before that fight. But the thing I wanted to say, BC, was this is the one thing that I do think we should mention about Bilal. For all the flowers we're giving him, and they are deserved, the real story of this fight was the disciplined, as you put it, I love that description, layered and experienced professional at this point. Talented, experienced, well-rounded, disciplined. I mean, he's everything I think most fighters would want to be.

The one issue that could potentially cost him, not to get to this point because he's already here, but against this next tier of competition, the lack of finishes. He has a game that is built quite nicely for control, for winning rounds. He has good cardio. Again, all those things. But there was never a moment where you would say that Luque was in danger. And in fact, if you go to his resume, going back, he beat Thompson.

Decision. Maya. Decision. Lima. Decision. Good. Decision. He did finish Takashi Sato, but Sato is not what we're talking about.

We're talking about this level of opposition. Curtis Millinder. Decision. Chance for encounter. Decision. Tim Means. Decision. Jordan Meehan.

Decision. Randy Brown. Decision. Decision. He does have a win over Augusto Montano via stoppage. Curtis Millinder, decision. Chance Rencounter, decision. Tim Means, decision. Jordan Meehan, decision. Randy Brown, decision. He does have a win over Augusto Montano via stoppage. But this is my point. We see this in 2016. He's got a couple of stoppage wins, but A, not many of them, and B, against significantly lower quality opposition. And here's the only thing I want to say about this.

Colby has a bit of the same problem. You heard Dana Cormier saying, oh, but Colby threatens the neck in ways that Bilal doesn't yeah but it doesn't really threaten the neck it's not it's not so significant so what I'm going to point out here is if you have a game that's built to to withstand 25 minutes that's probably a better game than one that's just decidedly focused on finishing but it's at this level to really beat the very best you have to kind of have a little bit of both. I would say that's a piece of Bilal's game that is missing against upper-tier opposition. I think the nicest thing you could say here

is that Bilal has surprised me at each step up the ladder. The layers of this performance, as we mentioned, surprised me. Do I yet feel, though, that he's a legitimate threat to a champion? Not yet. Not yet. Got to see more. Got to see more see more gotta see more i think that's going he's going in a strong direction and on the flip side luke a little bit disappointed in luke he was coming on this so i have one thing to say about that let me tell you what i'm disappointed in and let me see if you agree in fact i pulled this up earlier today because i was looking at

the stats on this yes i have them right in front of me. Perfect. So the best round that Luque had was what? The third round probably? That's where that left hook landed and kind of stumbled him? I believe after that round, maybe between rounds two and three, but there was one round midway through the fight where his corner is expressly telling him, you got to jab to the body and then work your way into other places, right? You should go do that.

Vicente Luque, in the entirety of that fight, and I realize I'm not in a position to be in his corner. That's not what this is about, but I'm just sort of pointing out what his corner did say. He targeted the body just 7% of the time. He went to the head 64 and then to the leg 28, and those were valuable, but it did seem to me, BC, against the advice of his corner that there was some body work that could have really transferred some of the defense that a guy like muhammad was working with that he did not invest in that could have maybe not changed the outcome of the fight although maybe that too but the fact that it was missing definitely hurt his chances

yeah no no yeah i see where you're where you're going with that luke um i just i just uh i'm not listen to this i'm not saying that you have to mix up the targeting evenly for example bulal muhammad went 85 to the head and 13 to the body just one percent to the leg he doesn't need to target the leg fair enough it's not about having an even distribution but if your corner's calling for it and the guy can know that for the most part it's either going to be a leg kick or a face punch it's a it makes managing the defense at least a little bit easier i didn't see the adjustments you would need to see at this level to you know like it's like luke is a great fighter when he's in control of the terms and he's pushing ahead luke this was

one where we really needed to see some nuance and adjustments and and like you said variety and we didn't it wasn't there it wasn't there so a little bit not a little bit a lot humbling it's a humbling loss luke a guy that he knocked out before it's a humbling loss it certainly is all right topic number three we move on here let's talk about the controversy in the co-main event so this involved two fighters kayo bohalio i'm sure i'm pronouncing that wrong taking on and he defeated godzi omar godziev okay and the technical decision is how it was decided 29 27 across the board it stopped officially at 356 of the third round bc uh or i guess after the fourth what no it was in the third excuse me it was in the third i apologize because there's only a three-round

contest yes that's right all right so here's the here's the question bc based on how the rules are written and the technical decision that was reached does a fight like this incentivize cheating i'm not saying that behalio did but you can clearly see a scenario where one could play that game and the rules would incentivize it going forward i bring up one example where tim elliott is grabbing gloves and everything else and people like that's real dirty the way he's fighting and then afterwards he's like it's my job to fight it's the referee's job to call it if he doesn't call call it, why should I not do it? That's a great question, BC. Why shouldn't he do it?

Well, I think we have a larger gray area issue, and I really want to credit Daniel Cormier and Dominic Cruz on the broadcast for kind of laying that out and comparing this to what happened in Jan Sterling 1. And, you know, nobody wants to see somebody win a title on a DQ, but we understand why that is there. So someone couldn't exploit the rules to keep their belt. Well, in this case, if there was intention of doing a,

even though afterwards Boraglio was like, you know, I thought his knee was, I didn't know his knee was down, which it wasn't. I didn't love his, I didn't love Boraglio's, wow, that's a bad pronunciation, a breakdown of why. But I also can recognize that in the flow of a fight, dude, how could you be fully aware of everything? You know what I mean? You're in the midst of a fight and you're getting hit and all that. I will say this.

I think that was a good discussion that something needs to be looked into. Because in this case, if you're Boraglio and you did have bad intention in mind, he's clearly up 2-0 on the scorecards. It was a hugely, hugely impressive performance in his UFC debut from Brazil. Wildest shit tattoos, consecutive wins on the Dana White Contender Series. He's leaping through your screen. We're hearing about him grappling with Damian Maia for years to be prepared for this moment. He's widely up 2-0. Yeah, he had the cushion to potentially lose a point and win there but he doesn't know in that spot Luke even if that is his bad intention that the other guy's not going

to continue because this also had that weird development of the doctor going yeah it looks fine to me he can fight and it was Omar Godziev saying no I can't no I can't and then I guess was willing to take the gamble of going to the cards and lost. What I don't know, Luke, necessarily is how you fix this scenario. I don't want to see a title changing hands under any circumstances like we saw in Jan Sterling one. I don't want to see someone abusing the rules going, look, I'm not going to get DQ'd. I might lose a point, but if I got a big enough lead, I can do it. So Luke, how do you fix this? I don't have an answer, but I do know there's an issue here that if we keep going down the road and have fights that end and look like this, it will be adjusted. There will be something that needs to put into place

to sort of stop this behavior. Does it need to be an instant disqualification? Is that the only thing that will sober this up, Luke? Um, no, but I grant that there are a ton of problems here versus I looked this up like what is the difference between an intentional and accidental foul and in terms of how most states define it they don't really tell you what the difference is you're sort of just allowed to infer what it's supposed to be I mean you know it looked to me like I granted he kind of thought oh he just has his hands down or the the back of the hand, because he kind of has his hand like this on the mat. If you have it like that and your knees are, sorry, you had both feet in the air,

he assumed that it didn't count or it was somehow, he just didn't seem to understand the rules. So part of it is there's still like a rule issue understanding with the fighters, compounded by a difficulty, I think, that the referees have by a lack of a clear description of what separates intentionality from accidental because that would have made a difference in the outcome here as well. If it's an intentional foul, you go one direction. If it's accidental, you go another.

But then at the same time, he's calling it an accidental foul, but then they still took a point from him, right, which is where you get the 29-27s across that because he was winning. He basically had taken the back all three rounds eventually, right? So that was really why he was up so it's like you take a point from him but you don't dq him but it's an accidental foul like none of that really adds up you see i'll tell you what the solution is to answer your question aside from the difficulty you need a superior rule set that shot should be legal that's what should happen that shot should be legal if they have knees down

that's different there are situations where i think a grounded opponent should not have their head hit but the simplest explanation is what is the difference between that and him retracting his arm in terms of what you would allow nothing it would have landed exactly the same the fact that he has a hand down to me is immaterial the rule set sucks and so it forces us to come up with these different conclusions and this fucked up algebra we're trying to do. Well, it's accidental, but it's DQ. Well, it's not a DQ because it's not in the second. It's not in the third.

The shot should be legal. That's the answer. The shot should be legal. And we just keep on moving with it rather than this fucking rigmarole about what's accidental, what's not DQ. Or we pass the second round. Is it a technical decision? All of that is a function of having a shitty rule set about what is and isn't legal. And this isn't you saying, hey, bro, let's just let it all be legal.

Let's do soccer kicks. Let's Joe. No, no, no, no, no. You're basically just saying, look, that game that you play, which is a game of putting your hand down to to leave yourself in a spot where you can only be punched because your opponent standing. I kind of agree with you. If it's a knee, it's a little bit more obvious.

It's a little harder to play that game, although you still could, but it takes that away from it. What I hate, Luke, is the idea that whether it's the person committing the foul accidentally or not, and we can gauge, did they do that on purpose? There's also to the person who's victimized, who essentially is in control because look look at anthony smith and you know for all the fun we have dude he's a smart fighter a warrior and i always sort of praise him but not joking he could have dq'd john jones and won that title in a fight that he was down badly on if he had chosen not to continue but he chose to continue. And I look back on that, Luke, and I say, like, damn, that's a respectful choice. What if the tables were turned here?

What if Omar Godziev was the guy who was up 2-0 and it was Boraglio rallying? And Omar Godziev goes, I know this situation. I ain't continuing. I can't see, bro. I can't see. I can't see. He wins, right? Technical decision.

Yes, same point about he wins. That's right. We cannot have stipulations that involved half or partially concussed fighters making in spots where they've got to kind of rationalize like, should I continue? Do I have a chance to lose? Somehow, Luke, and maybe again, maybe it's as simple as stretching the rules a little bit further.

You got to, this gray area sucks. And anytime there's titles involved, it sucks way worse. So is it, but Luke, to the spirit of it though, and this does kind of cross over to boxing. There's been famous guys like Bernard Hopkins, who for years have done the dirty tactics. You wait till the ref is on the other side of you. You punch the guy in the hip over.

I mean, there's always going to be dirty tactics, but if you make the penalties stiffer it forces people to change doesn't it not necessarily no there is a lot of sociological research that shows that the amount of the punishment isn't really the way to solve the problem are you crushing your bills defeating your monthly payments sounds like you're at the top of your financial game rise to it with the bmo eclipse rise visa card the credit card that rewards your good financial habits earn points for paying your credit card bill in full and on time every month level up from bill payer to reward slayer.

Terms and conditions apply. Is this a socioeconomic stance you're taking on the legalization of drugs in Europe, Luke? No, no, no, it's quite true. I mean, the war on drugs is sort of emblematic of it. If the punishments being so severe were really the issue, I mean, the drugs wouldn't have won the war on drugs, but they did. The drugs have clearly won. won so uh no it doesn't work that way i mean yes you certainly want to put in at least some level of deterrence through that but if the if what you and sometimes it can work

to be clear but the point being is if you're in a scenario where you have a lot of these kinds of moments popping up just deterring it through strong punishment turns out it won't be enough you have to find another way to assess and and absorb the problem it seems to me like we just haven't listen i don't love everything about one championship i really don't but i do think that their product is good and their rule set is clearly superior to the one we use in every way both both in how I think decisions are adjudicated and how these moments are, they're just part of fighting. When you segment out this is fighting, this is not,

which you have to do, right? You can't eye gouge, you can't hair pull. We would want those in place. Those are fairly easy to get around, but then it's like strikes, hands up, hands down, knee here, this, that, and the other. It creates an unnecessary complication that makes the rules hard to account for.

Yeah. Yeah, and look, we've already known in previous years how absurd it is that state by state the rule book is different in certain categories, and you have times of the UFC announcers going, wait, I'm not sure. What state are we in? What's the rules here? That shit's got to be leveled out. But based on your one comment, do you think fights should be scored pride rules?

Full fight. Who wins? Who had the better fight? I think it's a vastly superior way to do it. Yes. That's interesting. I do. I think what happens when you go round by round, one, there is a little bit of what the overall effort, you miss a little bit there.

Although that's not the worst way. I mean, it's fine. That by itself is not a reason to do it but what i've found is that and then you know this is my belief okay so i don't know that there's a ton of data to support this this is just sort of what i've seen and so i'm open to the idea that this could with future evidence not be true but my belief at the moment based on what i've seen is that what ends up happening is as you introduce a half point system or you try to get real clever and and 10 9 means this and 10-8 means that and you get to these distinctions, a lot of times you can train some people up to do it, but it's not really all that easy to train folks up to it. And also,

I just don't think you get, it turns out to me that the more instruments you introduce to get fine tuning, you actually get further away. I actually feel like when you open up the space a little bit and you say, let me just judge this as a whole, it actually enables you to have the nuance and the latitude you need to account for all the variables to make a more important decision a little bit later. That's my personal belief. I just feel like we're stuck with this system because everyone's like, we ran to the government. Well, we had to run to the government to survive. But now we have surrendered the rule set to the DMV,

and they may not be the best stewards of it, to be quite honest with you. Instead of a war on poverty, Luke, they got a war on drugs so the police could bother me, right? You know what I mean? That's right. That's right, Tupac. Tupac Newell back then. Thank you for your TED Talk.

Luke, before you get off of this conversation, Boraglio was pretty damn good dude for a debut dude those tattoos are fearsome free spirit on his throat spirit across the throat bro that's like that's some prison shit luke okay who has who's got the now i can't answer this one only you can answer this one who's got the most BC-friendly throat tattoo in the game? Wow. You mean that I like? I don't know if I like any throat tattoos.

By the way, just so people know, you have gone on record as you continue to put ink on your body, and I don't judge you. I think you make, for the most part, some strong artistic choices, and it's your life, Luke. I still don't know. I saw your shirtless real quick once. You got something your navel that's like like a tupac thug life you won't reveal what it says though that's your that's right that's your only your wife knows okay that's right you know what i'm saying but you have said you're willing to go to the level of throat tap brother and i instantly file this under i used to dunk in high school i could drink 50 beers and not

be buzzed up until a year ago uh what other just outright oh foot jokes aside there's no fucking way you watched holloway volkanovski 249 times no i really did no i absolutely get the hell out of here you can say no all you want i really did i get this ain't 1991 where if you have a throat tat, you directly have left prison to rejoin society. But you're telling me you're willing to get your throat tatted and then show up as a professional. It's been done. I get it.

It can happen. Standards have changed. You didn't ask me would I get it next year. You asked me would I entertain that as a thing. Yeah I get it like next year? You asked me like, would I entertain that as a thing? Yeah. And the answer to that was yes, I would entertain that.

Now I will tell you, I, I'm not in love with right under the, like right under the chin line here. I kind of like, uh, throat tats on the side. Uh,

and of course, if it was going to imperil my professional future, that would probably dissuade me. But let's say BC, I hit the lottery tomorrow and I got a billion dollars, I would probably have a neck tattoo within a month. I'll put it that way. All right, so to answer your question, I don't believe you, but to answer your question, Gervonta Davis is...

How do you not believe me? Dude, here's the other part about it. Tattooing is not what it used to be. You can just get lidocaine or TKTX and you can just throw it on your throat and you don't feel a thing, or very little anyway. Vazicaine, you can just get lidocaine or uh tktx and you can just throw it on your throat and you don't feel a thing or very little anyway vasocaine you can get the same thing are people getting is it easier to get tattoos removed these days i ask you this because i saw yes raquel pennington fight and you can fadedly see those two stars she used to have on her shoulders so what is she doing to make that go away so there's a bunch of companies that laser

them off and it used to be a little rare now it's's a lot, it's, it's still quite painful and it's not cheap, although it's not as expensive as getting a tattoo. Well, it depends where you get your tattoo. They can be somewhat on par, but there's a place here in DC called Zap-a-tat, shouts to Zap-a-tat. And you go in there and you get enough treatments. They just zap it. It takes, it doesn't happen all at once. You have to kind of burn the skin off slowly, right? But as you do it, you saw hers getting removed. It actually works quite well. But just imagine if you got your throat tattooed, you'd have to go right back and then get it zapped off.

That would be probably pretty painful. But like here, yeah, I would get that, sure. So did you have thug life around your navel, Luke? No, I did not have thug life around my navel. Jesus Christ, BC. I would have more respect for you than I do. If I did. I would.

All right, fair enough. All right, real quick. Boraglio, potential player? I know it's one fight, but... I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. He was athletic. He had good timing for the most part.

His back take skills were pretty strong. Yeah, it was a strong debut, for sure. It ended in total weirdness, which, to your your point means everyone kind of forgets about what happened. But I agree with you. Like, Omar Godziev, you know, he was kind of off balance a little bit. I mean, literally, there was one point, I think it was the second round maybe. Maybe it was the third. But where Bojalio takes the back because Godziev off balanced himself and fell over throwing a punch.

Do you remember that? And I was like, okay, all right. I mean, you can't be doing shit like that. But to your point, yeah, he looked pretty good. Like, he's definitely a prospect to watch for sure. For sure. Okay. Okay.

I mean, the rest of the card was a fair mix of, like, you know, adult club buffet. Like, strip club buffet. The card wasn't strong. The card was not strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Let's talk about at least a strong top of the card let's go to point number four here bc patricio pitbull now of course for the

ugas fight and then for this bellator fight we did do a post-fight show so we won't belabor the whole point but it is worth going over patricio pitbull he got revenge bc can you believe it defeating aj mckee of course in the main event of bellator 277 um BC did the win prove that Pitbull is better than McKee or did McKee get robbed I don't think it proved that he's better than McKee no I mean we saw him get you know taken care of quickly in the first fight boy do I want to see a third one did he get robbed I think is the right you, next day or two, three days later discussion. And, you know, you and I got a lot of people coming at us going, oh, Showtime Company men, of course they'd support Pitbull.

Well, no, bro, first of all. Do we think it was as wide as that one judge? No. Dude, I like how people think that we do Bellator's bidding for them. You should ask someone from Bellator whether they think MK does their bidding. I think you might be a little bit surprised at the answer you get. You're like, I think they would prefer if we stopped talking about Bellator. Yeah.

You know, but look, do I feel it was a three to two fight either way? Yes, there was some high level chess match elements to this fight. And I think when you get fights like that, it's easy to play the, you know, the case of which guy you thought had done enough, whether it's due to leg strikes, whether it's due to whatever. I thought I saw an AJ McKee get frustrated and neutralized by Pitbull's poised ability to stand in the pocket and force McKee to come to him and put enough of a threat with the right-hand counter and to really carry it out. Did McKee come on late? Absolutely. It did feel like a tale of two fights.

If you had a 3-2 McKee, Luke, I wouldn't have had a problem. If McKee won a unanimous decision across all three, I wouldn't have had a problem. But robbery? Get the hell out of here. I mean, it's fun to do the conspiracy thing, and granted, I've led the charge on a lot of bad conspiracies. You know, oh, he came out and demanded a million dollars. Scott Coker's doing the okey-doke to make sure he stays around.

Like, remember when Tim Bradley got that decision against Manny Pacquiao? It's like, oh, Bob Arum doesn't want Pacquiao to fight Mayweather, so he's going to keep him here longer. Come on. Come on, bro. No, we're not doing that at Bellator 277. But it was the type of deal where it turned into a chess match, and when you play chess at a high level and leave it up to the judge's discretion, you get what you get, Luke. And that's what it was. You have to admit, no matter how you scored it, that McKee was

neutralized. And that's a big part of the greatness of Pitbull to be able to put forth this performance at 34 in a weight class really above where he probably belongs against a guy who finished him in just over a minute. Yeah, I was hella impressed by this, and boy do I want to see this a third time. Yeah, I'm with you. I had the first three rounds for Pitbull, probably the last two for McKee. Could you find another one for McKee within the first three? You probably could. Not all of them. I think some of them were pretty definitive, but maybe there's another one there, and so if you out there scored it for A.J. McKee, I don't agree, but I don't find that egregious. And I would have, you know, said, I'm just the same.

I don't agree, but okay, he wins. But, dude, Pitbull, we got to say something about Pitbull, man, because we did not count him out heading into the first fight. We thought he was very much a live dog, and then he got run over. And you're like, okay, well, you know, that was an incredible moment for AJ McKee and I still think AJ McKee I will say unlike Ugas I think his stock dropped a little which I'll talk about in just a second but for Pitbull BC I thought his stock boomed back to kind of where it was this guy is the king of rematches and this is what it's like when you get a well-rounded guy who yes fought another very very tough guy in AJ McKee, a very, very elite fighter. But for him to have, as you put it, that poise, that understanding, those adjustments,

and everything else, man, to have all of that ability, all of that firepower, not be shopworn at this stage in his game. He's a fucking Iron Man, bc to be around this long and the wars he's been in and he's still this fresh where he could come back from a defeat like this and then still have the mental fortitude to want to like recapture lost glory dude he is a fucking marvel pitbull is a he once moved up to lightweight and one punch michael chandler i mean this guy's like i mean come on what i just feel like he didn't get people there was a lot of people who did not tune in to Pitbull ever and then they went they tuned in for the McKee fight being like okay what's this all about and then he gets waxed and they're like

oh that's everyone playing up you know Bellator's guys being better than they are well that wasn't a good showing for him quite obviously and this was a much better one but I just want to say a moment for Pitbull truly his career reminds me reminds me of Aldo's, right? This guy just so resilient over time, so good over time, including being a championship-level good on Saturday night. Now, for McKee, BC, he had a dude to get out of that guillotine that was deep in the third, was utterly remarkable by him. And again, to turn the fight around and then stick it to Pitbull in the last two,

it tells me he is obviously destined for greatness. But do you agree with my assessment that maybe after the first fight with Pitbull, given what we saw here, you might, did he come back down to earth a little bit? Yeah, of course a little bit, because you have to understand that AJ McKee was dancing in the clouds.

Basically, you know, we were using words like Tiger Woods and Floyd Mayweather of MMA. No, does he come down a bit from that? Of course he does, because you have to remember, like, I mean, he was the homegrown Bellator product who ran through that tournament. But we're all like the reason why their first fight was billed as the, you know, biggest, best fight in Bellator history was because he's going up against Pitbull, the face of the company, and then he fucking destroyed him in a minute. So yes, he reached a level of just almost like, damn, what are we seeing here? Are we seeing the future?

Are we seeing the next big thing? Does he lose a little bit of that? Of course he does. He just lost. But Luke, he lost to an all-time great. He escaped this all-time great guillotine master's guillotine and rallied and was the fresher fighter late and bloodied the guy down the finish.

And I think most importantly, McKee's got the defense of, I think I beat him. And there's a large group out there that think I beat him too. Luke, if he goes back there in the trilogy and definitively beats Pitbull, I think he regains most of that. So does he take a step back?

Of course. You lose, you're going to take a step back. But this is not, you know, long-term damaging to where his potential goes. MMA is different than boxing. It's a lot harder to pull off what Floyd Mayweather did. There are so many ways to lose the fight, including the way he lost this one. But no, Luke, we are still looking at a future great, and I think it really raises the stakes for this third fight. And again, I said this Friday night in our reaction show when I was

wearing a drug rug and some loud basketball shorts that were creeping up, Luke. Okay, in hindsight, wow, right? I mean, hindsight 2020 in this case, wow, bro. My point was that if you're Bellator, you got a trilogy with your two greatest fighters of all time? Yeah, I kind of like this. This could be good for business in the long run, Luke. All right, but what about the idea that what AJ McKee said, which is he's going to 155 after this. So he could go and fight the other Pitbull and get the belt right back at 155.

Do you like that idea? That's a savvy business move for him. Under the grounds of what we think we know his contract to be, and I say we think we know based on what Ariel said, Coker was asked about it after the fight, and he's like, you know, I don't really know. I mean, Scott Coker was asked, is AJ a free agent now? And Scott's response was, I don't really know.

So do I really know? No. But the point is, if we believe that AJ's got two fights left on the deal at the current rate, what's his best chance to improve his leverage and marketing ability? If they'll let him, yes, going up to 155 and winning a championship. Oh, storyline wise, it just so happens that the guy's brother's standing there. You know, it's like the old Michael Chandler thing. He one-punched Patrycki, you know, and now you got to go after the brother, right? And it's a smart, savvy move if he can pull it off.

And it shows how great of a fighter he would be. And if he could come back to a featherweight championship trilogy against Pitbull after having beaten his brother for the belt that Patricio Pitbull gave up. Yeah, it just writes itself. It puts AJ McKee back in a strong leverage driving position. And I think we can say this, Luke, he's a savvy young man. He understands his potential value. He's trying to leverage it. Step back a little one here, a little one against a great fighter in a fun and interesting chess match that I don't think people realize what they were watching at times. But we got to do this third fight, Luke, before the end of this two-fight deal, in my opinion, right?

Well, I'll tell you this much. If he goes up to 155, he's an instant contender. I mean, we kind of know that, but let me just read the names. Obviously, Petriki is the champion. So rank number one is Sidney Outlaw. Two, Brent Premis. Three, Benson Henderson. Now, four, it gets a little dicey, I think,

because this dude's about to hammer everybody. Usman Nurmagomedov is sitting at four, Peter Cooley at five. Okay, I don't know about against Usman, although even him he probably is competitive against, but he's basically, for the most part, he's competitive against any of those guys, and I would favor him to beat the majority of them, wouldn't you? Yes. Yes, I would.

And I have, though, long said that watch out down the road for bellator if they can end up keeping mckee usman namaragomedov versus aj mckee is the fight that gets me so freaking fired up but by the way as would as would an aaron pico when he's ready to go to the title level if it happens at featherweight with mckee as champion i'd be just as fired up for that but yeah luke um i saw a lot of negative takes coming off of this fight i got positive takes it was a fun and interesting fight oh they thought that both guys looked bad or something i don't know how you could make that assessment from this yeah again it's it's this oh bc and lt will carry water for anybody really uh do i think both of these guys would be favored

against alexander volkanovsky tomorrow or max Holloway no do I think they compete in that fight and have a chance to win yes look at them what do you not see yes I to be clear everyone's like oh how good are they I would favor Max to beat both I'm sorry I would favor Alex to beat both Max to probably it's competitive with Pitbull and Max it's very very competitive but other than that uh yeah I mean are we asking can the UFC champ beat the Bellator champ yes I think he beats anybody in that weight class no matter what fine and these guys are right up there top five top three talent and anyone saying oh no Bellator second dude Michael Chandler just walked into the UFC I know he went one and two in his first three but he he knocked down the lightweight champion,

the guy that's finishing everybody and was that close to winning the championship. So come on. What are we doing here? Yeah, what are we doing? All right, let's move to point number five here. Quite lastly, this was a bit of a shame, but you seem to think it was good news. I don't think it's bad news, but I was hoping for more finality. But either way, we did not get a winner in the finals of the Bellator 205 Grand Prix, but Corey Anderson was winning handily,

basically, up until that point. So BC, when you think about it, is the story of the fight that there's going to be a rematch and we don't know who's better, or that we know who's better, but by the time you saw enough from Nemkovs that when they rematch, you think he's got better chances, or are we just delaying the coronation of Corey Anderson? No, we're not, and I don't like you using the term handily. He was up two rounds to one and had made the adjustment to use his wrestling. And look, he had a great third round leading up to that stoppage due to the errant strike. But, Luke.

The headbutt. The headbutt. The headbutt, excuse me. But what I was saying was, look, now let's see what the champion's got in round four. Let's see. I think I told you, you know, off camera, they're like, man, Nemkov's going to come out slinging around for, let's see what he's got. Luke, I learned lessons, you know, through the years.

And, you know, I think one time I was working front page of ESPN.com and it was an NBA playoff series. The team that did not have home court advantage was the favorite, but then they lost the first two games at the other team's home court and they were down to nothing. I wrote, oh, this team has a commanding lead is the headline. Some big boss, Luke, picked up the phone and called me. And they go, aren't you supposed to win home games in the NBA playoffs when teams are relatively even?

I'm like, yeah. That's not a commanding 2-0 lead. They did what they're supposed to do. Luke, I don't think Corey Anderson was in a commanding lead. I think he took advantage of the fight, moved it in his direction, and now it was going to be up to the champion to come out in the championship rounds and do things. So would Bellator have preferred this? No, I'm not trying to say that it's better for Bellator long-term to have a disputed decision in the main event and then the co-main event,

which is your tournament final, have no winner. Nobody's asking for that. But when you look at business and how it unfolds, now we got another main event out of these two. You still put the million dollars in the title at the line. It just said you got to wait. But we've seen enough through three rounds to know that Corey Anderson is not only in this fight, Luke, he looked to be in the direction of taking over. He was up two rounds to one in our mind going into there. So I can't wait to see what this looks like now when they do it again, and I'm gonna get pretty fired up for it.

Again, Luke, show me where the major damage and disappointment is in this outcome outside of just the, when you put a fight together, you want a winner. Okay, so Bellator's had a few stick kicks, Luke, in their time, right? A few fights not go the way you would have wanted it to, but I don't look at this as a disaster, dude.

Again, I know the narrative was like, see, Bellator, you try to do nice things and that's what you get. No, this is an interesting fight. Let's see you pick up where it left off. Okay, I'm halfway there. I'll meet you halfway, which is to say, I don't think it's a disaster.

No, it's not a disaster. But I've seen Bellator post Bjorn Rebny and then, of course, Strikeforce before. I try to pull off tournaments that are spread out over the course of it. These fucking glasses. I lost my other ones and they won't stay up. But spread out over the course of a year or however long it goes. And they're just hard to do. It doesn't matter if it's UFC, if it's Bellator, if it's Strikeforce.

Trying to plan around that is very difficult to do for the most part. So we had a lot of guys fall out. Now we did get two very deserving contenders in that main, or I should say finalists in that main event with Nemkov and Corey Anderson. Here's the problem for me. On the one hand, I thought what Corey Anderson showed in this fight was no doubt that his reformation project is absolutely real because you and I both have a pretty high degree of respect for Nemkov. Here's what I can't get past, BC, and maybe you can tell me I'm wrong about this,

and that would be fine. We'll have to see what happens in the co-main. But unless Nemkov has an answer for the wrestling in the rematch, I don't think he can win. Do you think he can win if he can't fix the wrestling? Okay, if it becomes a blatant hole in the rematch in which anderson's taking him down off the start and nemkov's unable to get up yeah we got a problem there but what did you see in the first round i saw nemkov kind of

handling him on the feet every fight starts on the feet luke we got to see it play out now it's a it's a weird sort of advantage for nemkov, the champion, meaning he was down 2-1 and in a rough spot, and now he gets another chance to heal up, come back, get a full camp, and try it again. It's just sort of the way things went. But, yes, does he have an uphill climb going into training camp and going, this guy's got an edge on me in this fight. I've got to figure it out.

He does, Luke, but this is what we're trying to find out. Who's the best light heavyweight in Bellator? And, again, disappointed that it hasn't. I guess guess here's the thing I just feel bad for Corey Anderson I feel bad for Corey Anderson that he got maligned in MMA and let go from UFC and everyone kind of said he was a bust when in fact all he was doing was like Ugas readying himself for a second chapter he gets the second chapter going and he looked looked not just this fight but you know the whole bellator push has looked fucking phenomenal every time he has stepped out there for bellator you and i both know that nemkov is a legitimate world-class 205er and it looked to me

like anderson was finally putting everything together he was finally having the performance he needed in the big fight he needed he was about to win a million bucks and everything else. And then this whole thing got away from him. I just feel like this guy is owed a level of respect that even I didn't have maybe a couple of years ago, but I've at least seen the light. And I, I was, we were this close to getting it and it got taken away from him. And it's not anyone's fault, whatever, but I do feel bad for Corey Anderson. And that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Is that palatable and fair to you as you apparently search for everything in your house in the middle of the show?

Sorry, Luke. I have got animals jumping in here trying to jump on me. I'll say this, Luke. Should we give him his overused term for you and I in the past four days? Give him his flowers? Yes. But, Luke, he also committed the foul. We just watched the replay

like four times it was it was disappointing that it went that way but he dove head first into his opponent without throwing a punch luke that's a mistake right did we damn peter yan for for losing the title in a title fight against sterling in which he was up and winning on he made a freaking mistake luke he threw a knee at a guy who was clearly down and the referee had told him don't do it ahead of time um this this is a it is what it is luke how do you defend him diving in like that i know he's trying to improve his position i'm not i'm not defending the act like what happened happened and that's just that's just the way that it goes no one can plan these um this is just fighting and fighting is chaotic and things like this happen

but that's a question of like why did this happen it's not a question of do you feel like it's an unfortunate set of circumstances for a guy who i think has been i'm gonna say it again unfairly maligned who is definitely rejuvenated and i just don't think the mma world has properly accounted for that yet it is that accounting that i think was missing here by virtue of the circumstances that he helped create fair enough but there's just something there's a piece of this story missing obviously the finals but i don't know i feel very bad for cory anderson he was that close a few more seconds and it would have been a different story but yes we are where we are all right that is it to be fair it's kind of wild and i know we're talking about the legal strike in the UFC fight.

Now we're talking about this. It's crazy that things don't happen more, given that it's a sport in which you're looking to inflict damage. And, you know, the ability to just barely miss and follow somebody is pretty high. It can happen, Luke. You would think it would almost happen more. Yeah, but isn't that a separate question from whether or not you feel bad for Corey you're like well he he facilitated the circumstances that led to the close of the fight fair enough but I feel bad that itself is also unlucky yeah I mean I feel bad it was a fight that he was winning and now we have to reset it yeah I

feel bad Luke but he also committed the foul so and we also had to see what was going to happen in round four and five I again if you think Corey was on his way to ground and pounding this guy out two minutes later, then maybe your argument stands up more. I was looking to see where the fight was going to go from here. Fair enough. I was not expecting him to ground and pound him out. But I did feel like, I'll say this, Corey Anderson made Nemkov show a level of vulnerability that Phil Davis could never get close to.

Phil Davis never did that to Nemkov. And so when you think about it that way, you're like, this is a, that was pretty goddamn. Dude, he made it look effortless taking him down. And Phil Davis takes people down and hold them down for, he's been doing it for fucking 10 years. He could not really do that to Nemkov. Corey Anderson did it with ease.

And for that reason, I'm like, shit, man, he is up against it in that rematch. So we'll see how it goes. All right, that is it for up against it in that rematch. So we'll see how it goes. All right. That is it for you and I asking each other questions. Now it is time for us to get the donks to ask us questions. It's time for DMs from the diggity donks. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.

He mother effing haul. All right, BC. From Andrew R. Cox, 1984. right bc from andrew r cox 1984 will brian start the opposite of the liver king brand called the liver jester so he can teach what not to do with your liver what do you think uh i don't think i need to make it that official, Luke, and start my own video series, but I do like to provide the public service message that is gas station food the silent killer. So if you've been supplementing your diet, as I have for the past 30-something years with that, as Luke would say, you're going to have to pay at the end, right? That receipt becomes due, Luke.

The bill is due. That bill is due and uh it sucks luke do i like not eating beef anymore no i hate it do i like avoiding fast food at all costs i hate that shit luke but you know now whenever we're at whenever we're these events i see the pain on your face when you're like do they have a caesar salad yeah yeah i mean i did it to myself luke, I did it to myself, Luke, okay? I did it to myself. I'll say this, dude. People ask me, like, what do you think of the liver king? Is anything he says, like, valuable?

I'm like, for laughs, maybe. The nine ancestral tenets that he called. What does he call his people, primates? What does he call them? Primals. Primals. That's what he calls them. Yeah, he's a hell of a marketer and businessman, Luke, okay?

That's like, dude, if you had even... What is this guy's... Does this guy think that cavemen were all like fucking super jacked on anabolics and just, you know, dragging fucking kettlebells and shit? It's like the most totally divorced from reality assessment of human performance and human origins I've ever seen. If you like seeing a guy who is, you know, is my opinion, almost certainly on all the anabolics in the world, who has a funny Instagram life, yeah, you should watch it.

But for anything other than that, you are wasting your time. All right. From Blake Griffin, spelled with a Y, B-C, B-L-A-Y-K-E. Not the Blake Griffin who dunks on motherfuckers. What if Max says F it and wants to move up to lightweight instead of a trilogy with Volk? Does he have a claim to the Olivera fight should he beat Justin since he has a win over Charles? Right, but BC, he's got the loss to Dustin not too long ago, so that seems like a no, right? No, I don't think that plays into it because of Max's star value and because Poirier just lost to Olivera, hasn't fought since, didn't come back and beat a top five guy to reclaim his spot. spot and by the way nor should he have to given Poirier standing

right now I think that's a very viable fight for the UFC and as much as I'd like a third Volk Max fight largely because I thought Max won the rematch and I know that the UFC has liked that idea yeah it is kind of unfair to Volkanovski you you know, and it's a joke question we keep saying, like how many more times do you have to beat Max before Dana will be happy? You can't avoid that and go this way. Max, we found against Dustin in their interim title fight, same night, of course, is, boy, do I love that Adesanya Gastelum fight, that, you know, he was a little bit short on firepower,

but it was still an insanely great almost all-time great action fight that yeah luke he's got the resume to deserve this he already beat the guy one weight class lower it's a storyline that i think makes a ton of sense and it's a monster money fight do it do that shit if he beats you that would be saying you're going to give Max a title shot at 155 before Alex? That doesn't make any sense. Unless Alex really wants it and pushes backstage for it, Luke. Oh, I see. I see. Okay. It's more like if Alex is of the stance where I'll fight Max if you make me, but again, why do I have to?

If you're the UFC and you're getting to a point, you know, hey, look what Alex just did to the damn zombie. I mean, he's kind of making his case now for all-time greatness. Yeah. You know, because, Luke, the reality for Max, though, and maybe this was true about Jose Aldo going right back in against Max to try to regain his title, and he lost the same way, got stopped. It could damage Max to a small degree.

I mean, if he goes in there a third time against Volk and comes up empty again, I'm not saying it's, like like long-term damaging to his legacy but it it yanks him down a peg where it decidedly puts him it decidedly puts him beneath volkanovsky in any featherweight rankings right decided whereas whereas right now he can argue and say well look dude i you know a lot of people thought i won that second one it It's a fight, that third one, in all fairness, that you don't really have to cash in today. You don't have to. It's true. You don't.

It's true. You don't. You know who would be effing over, though, right? Maybe the guy that deserves it more than anyone. Islam Mahachev. Ooh, right. Because he's coming on, Luke. So if you're asking me, hey, BC, should Holloway cut Mahachev oh right because he's coming on luke so if you're asking me hey bc should holloway cut mahachev in line no yeah dicey brother right no i don't i don't i don't all right from punch

drunk pete do you think the term robbery has come to be blatantly overused in combat sports today seems like a lot of people tend to cry robbery anytime a fight is remotely close these days. Yeah, it is maybe the most overused term in all of combat sports. Agreed, agreed. It's badly overused. If a fight didn't score the way that you thought it was, it's a robbery.

No, that's not a case, okay? 118-110 Canelo by good old Adelaide Bird, who, by the way, was judging UFC fights on Saturday. Thank you, Nevada. Yeah, that's a robbery, Luke. That's not a, you know, and look, I think it, unfortunately, we see it. We see it in a lot of fights that people don't even remember. I mean, Luke, unfortunately, in boxing, it's a rampant issue where, you know,

you'll see a co-main events or undercard fights where the, even if the A-side guy loses and gets upset by split decision, there will still be that third scorecard 118 110 in his favor and you're like what that's a freaking robbery okay yeah yeah i mean close fight okay serious question in mma and boxing how many genuine robberies have you seen i've seen i've seen a good amount i've seen a good amount but i think we have to realize that there's a major difference between that smells like corruption and the other side which is either that's incompetence or you have to realize what the judges really do and i really

don't think enough people realize this luke the judges are not on twitter they're not talking to each other right they're sitting together directly on the apron which i've sat there calling fights in some scenarios you get a much better representation of what's happening than what's happening on tv because you can see who's pushing the pace you can see the damage but at times you also can get blocked you're sitting too close there's ropes in your face there's a referee circling around. You can miss it as well. The crowd becomes a big factor. There are a lot of things that become a factor. Look, how many times, to be really honest here, we like as journalists to be professional scorers,

right? And there's times that we'll defend our scorecard, whatever. But Luke, how many times do you go, damn, that was a good round. I have no idea who won. Let me look at Twitter and see what my contemporaries are saying. Because you're like, man, I don't really round. I have no idea who won. Let me look at Twitter and see what my contemporaries are saying. Because you're like, man, I don't really know. Those guys in the moment make that decision, write it, and they're done with it, Luke, okay? They're not waiting till the end of the fight to then go, to then go, oh yeah, I took that stuffed envelope to score it for this guy.

So let me, you know, no, round by round, you're writing it and you're handing it off. You're trained as a judge, whether you're doing a three-minute boxing round or a five-minute MMA round, to look at those as separate individual fights and not carry over in your mind anything that happened the round before.

So when it's set up like that, nobody at home is scoring that way. At home, you're on Twitter, you got a beer, your kids are climbing all over you. You may not understand the rule set. There's a lot of factors there. So when we scream robbery it could just mean we missed it the judges had an off night they're leaning on a level of the

criteria that we don't lean on the same way even though you know people say luke hey bc you score mma fights like they're boxing matches and maybe to a certain degree sometimes i am oddly influenced by the difference in the rule sets that that could be true i'll just say in terms of mma robberies i've probably seen half a dozen at most you know uh like genuine mma robberies not that many yeah not that many yeah um boxing i think it's a little more common because then you get a situation like cj ross you know in that mayweather canelo scorecard like how do you explain that that's a really weird one you know you know i don't want to say things that that that become liable because could could a could a great a well respected judge have a really bad night at the office for all those things we just said being on your own island not being on tour of course they could but that one smelled that one smelled like shit yeah that

one was not great all right from old ben kenobi 13 i always go back to this like we're looking for obi-wan kenobi what's your name i'm ben kenobi totally unrelated okay worst fucking disguise ever he writes oh yeah as bc would say when he's imitating pepe lepew and other sex pests many of us have met a guy who claims to be a black belt mma how many fighters do you think would qualify for that distinction if it was a real thing? Parameters would be striking, boxing, wrestling, and grappling submissions, BJJ to an elite level in terms of technique, execution,

and decision making. They say a black belt takes a round, you know, I don't know. Really, everyone's different. I mean, BJ Penn and some other guys got it in four years. Some people get it in closer to 10 or 12. But I would say if that's a thing where we're measuring that, there would be a fair amount of jiu-jitsu black belts in MMA. If MMA is your primary occupation, I would imagine we would have a fair amount of those as well. I'm just glad we don't have a belt system

that way. I mean, if you become an elite, well-rounded fighter, you've essentially become a black belt in mixed martial arts, correct? Yeah, basically. Unless you're like a one-dimensional and you're you know you're yeah but like you would say habib's black belt his striking is not like it's not terrible but it's not like amazing or anything you know i think there's a fair argument in a guy like habib who although he's worked out the striking to work for him and look he fucking dropped connor with a bomb so he did evolve was he ever a black belt

in striking though no no he wasn't look he wasn't so would he not earn a complete black belt in mixed martial arts under the spirit of this question from old ben i don't know i don't know look real quick even in even in like even in judo or jiu-jitsu you know you're not good at every throw you're not good at every submission you have a game but the question is is your overall level of ability high enough yeah clearly it's high enough you know luke i saw a great stat. You know Dan Canobia who works for CompuBox? His dad founded it?

I do. Bob Canobia? Yes. After Errol Spence got hurt in round six by Ugas, he outlanded him 113 to 25 until the stop. Good God. Good Lord, dude. I'm telling you, I don't know who the fuck stops that guy.

And if Crawford can't do it, it's got to be, literally it has to be up a weight class or two. To break people's faces with the regularity he's doing it is fucking shocking. All right, last but not least, BC, O'Reilly7402. Good question, I like this. Favorite stadium to work slash watch combat sports. What do you think?

Great question. Great question. So I'm old school, having grown up 90 minutes from New York City, that Madison Square Garden will always be and still is to this day, especially after the renovation a couple years back. It's the Mecca, Luke. I've said it. If I go there for a concert, if I go there for a hockey game,

a basketball game, it just feels more important. The stakes are raised. That's the case for combat sports. Boxing doesn't go to Nework for the big ones a ton because the tax laws are so high and obviously in vegas or texas you can get a much better split but when luke when you find out that a big time boxing match is at msg just like when you find out every november that ufc is going back with a big card there dude it's fucking it matters, it matters, man. It's special as shit. So that one, I'm going to throw out. Boxing in Carson, California at the StubHub.

Now the Dignity House. I got to go there. I got to go there, man. That is a special place. And Luke, I'll say this. Even though I like T-Mobile Arena, whenever that arena is busy and we go back to MGM Grand, it reminds me how intimate and perfect the MGM Grand is for boxing or MMA. It's just perfect, dude.

I'll say this. So if you're asking, it's different, right? Because if they're asking to work, the stuff I do is not super well situated for being at a venue. Like for you, it is because you're on the row and then you write and then you can do the uh the hq hit i can do hq hits too but you know what i'm saying like the writing component really puts you front and center and so it gives you a different perspective because you really need to be there to tell the story effectively i don't for what i do so my question was always if i'm working in a place what's the media room like to be honest with you because that's where i'm going to be doing the majority of my work except when i'm with showtime or something and then they

put us i mean you know it's either the fruit flies at Mohegan Sun or it's the radio booth at AT&T Stadium but in all seriousness I don't like T-Mobile because their media outlets suck their media rooms are terrible there they never thought that through at all MGMBC you know this as well as I do they got the two-tiered one they have that whole upper uh deck where you can go to it's got all those booths and i can do my show in there no problem now to watch combat sports that's where it gets a little bit different to watch i'm gonna say i gotta tell you i i i like barclays i think it's a little bit underrated as a place i agree with you. MSG.

By the way, the atmosphere in Barclays for big-time boxing, first of all, it's the most amount of marijuana smell you're ever going to find in one arena this side of a fish concert. I mean, there are people just getting down at the Barclays Center inside the crowd, and I love it. But it just works. It's a big-ass professional arena, and it just works, both in terms of sight lines, atmosphere, and media, press room, all that. I think it's up there. professional arena and it just works both in terms of sight lines atmosphere and you know media press room all that i think it's it's it's up there it's up there for sure

yeah i'll go that i think msg as well i'm not a big fan of the honda center i find it like okay not great um staples is fine yeah it's okay it's okay i'm with you but mgm mgm is so small so intimate and then that press room in the back where they bring everybody in. Because the question was to work. You know this is what I do, BC. They have these two studios right next to the MGM Grand Garden Arena called Studios A and B. And then they put all the press people in there, all the media people in there, and all of the fighters and their entourages and everyone who is anyone that week comes through there.

So if you stay there and you're just hanging out, dude, you'll see Bernard Hopkins come through and there's Evander Holyfield and then there's Cain. I realize that he's in jail, but one time I saw Cain Velasquez just come through. All these luminaries just come right through there so you can grab interviews and get quotes and stuff like that. That's the best place to work.

My answers aren't as good as yours, but that's what I would say. To finalize the question on as a fan or as a media member who's there to enjoy it as a fan, you want intimacy, so that's obviously why that old StubHub, now Dignity Hill Sports Park, it's a tennis bowl in which wherever you're sitting, you're on top of the action. That's great. Also, Luke, the theater at Madison Square Garden,

the Hulu theater whatever they call it that is an incredible venue for intimacy and fans going nuts for for a boxing match as well um they never go there anymore but the mgm foxwoods in connecticut uh i don't know why they don't go there anymore but i've seen some great boxing there that it's just it's a theater you're on top of it that's what you want luke you want to be on top of it all right yeah that's that's truly the answer there uh okay so that is it for dm from donks we see it's time for your shit we always say we only have male fans we've got male um christy who calls herself shine on twitter luke t at tn shine girl do you see this tweet in the moment she says my father-in-law really rarely sits down to watch things I put on TV, but we're at the in-laws for Easter and my father-in-law's

on the couch right now watching MK having a good laugh at BC's liver issues. MK is for everyone, even retirees who prefer rasslin'. Luke, shout out to that old motherfucker, that Christy's father-in-law. This guy tuning in, going going like let you know it reminds me of that scene in tommy boy where they got the tommy boy's got the the the bomb strapped to his chest but the lady at the diner's like you want to watch this or american gladiators and they're like gladiators yeah yeah yeah yeah you know they're probably like pops you want to watch the today show or these two pasty white dads talking about livers you know so uh was it was it tommy boy where they got high as balls and then they drove and then the cop was like, you're going seven.

Seven miles an hour. That was Black Sheep. Yeah, that was the spinoff. Yeah, yeah. Good shit. All right, Luke. This is going to be an abbreviated version of the shit because of traveling, but shout out.

Shout out. To Gaff Pierre, our fantastic producer for assembling this last minute. And yes, I know Matt Snyder is no longer the Staples Center. It's CryptocurrencyDome.com over there in L.A. He just wanted to tell us that so we would promote crypto. That's the kind of guy he is. Yeah, the guy loves Doge. That guy fucking loves Doge.

All right, here we go, Luke. We start off UFC Fight Night Las Vegas. Oh, sorry. Highs and lows, the shit, the good, the bad, the ugly. I mean, really, have you seen this shit? Let's find out. UFC Vegas Luke, Andre Fialo put it all over Miguel Baeza, sending him to a third straight defeat.

And this was violent, brother. Dirty boxing is legal in MMA. Good Lord. Dude, what happened? Because you used to be riding the train of Miguel Baeza, Luke. Baeza was on a hot streak until he wasn't. Some of his issues have been laid more bare. I mean, this is why you've got to see him fight all the contenders,

because you just don't know until you know. Now we have a clearer sense of his upper-bound limits and some of his weaknesses. And he's still a good fighter, obviously. Don't misunderstand me. But, yeah, Fialio put it on him big time. our favorite big boy Chris Barnett the heavyweight was back he may have lost a third round technical decision following a foul but he did his thang on the ring walk Luke your thoughts did they say he was from Spain he's fighting out of Spain I don't know what that flag

is look that's not that's the Spanish flag and And look, it says Zaragoza, Spain. Is that an error? Do we not know that? I don't know if he just put... No, he's got Spain on his fucking... I don't know what that is. That's hilarious. But look at him dancing.

Look at him, man. Oh, he's... Look, he was born there, according to... His father was stationed in the Air Force as a captain. Ah, there you go. There you go.

Okay, I was going to say he's decidedly American, but I didn't know the story. Yeah, wasn't Bisping born in Germany? Your ass was born at the New Delhi? In India. I was born in India. My brother was born in Paris, and my sister was born in Beirut. We were all born overseas.

Wow. Wow. I love that. Anyway, this man can dance. I just want to point that out. It's time for close encounters of the Drakkar kind. Two years removed, Luke. He came and did his thing, dude.

Did you see the second round stoppage he put on old Brandon Jenkins? Yeah, he tore him up. I mean, that was a... Dude, this is what we say. Dude, Drakkar close. Remember we were talking about it? Everyone's like, oh, he got shoved. He must be a pussy.

It's like... Or he was really injured because all of the other evidence tells us that he's a fucking hammer who just comes forward. And you saw it there. he put it on him good for dracar close man you know when you get injured like that no one you lose time but you go down i'm sure his social media was filled with trolls you know yeah he had he had them arlene blanco anger fists luke ready he was ready you know you you might be the number one blanco fan love big big arlene blanco fan fight for the title third time luke third time could be the charm one Blanco fan. Love. Big, big Arlie Blanco fan. Fighting for the title. Third time, Luke.

Third time could be the charm this weekend in Hawaii. Luke, big night at UFC Vegas for Jordan Leavitt. You know this guy? First of all, showing us some plumber's crack on the ground against Trey Ogden. Your thoughts? Nothing like man ass to get you going on a Monday. I mean, look, you could put more than a quarter in that slot, Luke, okay? But he got the win.

This is truly the dumbest and worst show ever made. I just can't get over how dumb this show is. I mean, you could put a whole loaf of bread in there. Luke, but he would get a split decision win over Ogden, and did you see this erotic dance in the split that he put out there? So is he twerking? Yeah. I mean, is it worth it let

me work it bro right look at him put that thing down he's uh he's mormon okay well he's still basically like if you got a big let me search it yeah wow okay uh let's keep it moving before we get tossed uh spence ugas from uh dallas lu. Here's Errol Spence celebrating his big win with a pair of Cowboys legends, young and old, Micah Parsons and Michael Irvin. But, Luke, look at Michael Irvin. What are those, bro? What are we doing here? Come on, dude.

Can we go full screen, Jeff? You got to see these combat boots and the, I mean, you can't say anything, Luke, because you've bought purposely ripped jeans. These two, Errol Spence looks like a kid who won an award to meet his favorite heroes. Yeah. Wow, dude. Doesn't he look like with that oversized hat and shit, you know? I mean, look, Michael Irvin is a playmaker, so he can wear whatever he wants, but I don't think he's pulling that off.

Did you get attacked by a dog on the way to the venue? Also, Micah Parsons, if he wanted to, he could fill in for Cannibal Corpse's lead singer because his neck is the size of Utah. It's un-fucking-believable. It's wild, Luke. Okay. Also on this undercard, Luke, you saw Jose Valenzuela, the unbeaten Mexican product. First round TKO of Bandido Francisco Vargas

on this looping left hand. Yes. And then people were saying that Vargas, you know, deserved to be counted out right away. We talked about it on the post-fight show. I said it. I mean, they saved him a beating. They saved him a beating. Okay, but it's the first round. He's awake. I mean, can we count to ten anymore?

Is that too hard? I know. You're right, but at the same time, it's like, bitch, you knew which way this was going. I mean. All right, Luke, let's play Rate That Form. Rate That Form. It's weightlifting here. Here's Terrence Bud Crawford.

We talked about him earlier. Attempting a 405-pound deadlift while wearing jeans, Luke. Michael Irvin jeans. Oh, not great. Really not great. He's pretty strong, though, Luke. Oh, not great. Really not great. He's pretty strong, though, Luke. Oh, he's strong. People always think that if you have bad deadlift form, it doesn't mean you're that strong.

What is he, 170 pounds, wet and wearing boots? And this is, what, 405? Something like that? I mean, he's obviously strong as shit. So that's not the point I'm trying to say. There's a couple things wrong with this. You shouldn't be wearing those shoes. But watch on the lift off

watch how he jerks the lift off off the ground watch he just jumps into it like that see that and then his hips come up first and then his back it's because he doesn't have proper tightness and uh you actually the little tip for everyone one little deadlift tip for you if on your initial pull you hear the bar clank into the weights you're doing it wrong by the time you sit the bar should be almost lifted off the ground and settled into the weights and so when you execute the lift there's no noise except for the plates might rattle a little bit but you shouldn't hear that click from the bar into the into the metal which you can see he gets that because he just jerks it off the ground rather than getting tight and then lifting

luke serious fashion question. Do you regret more buying those pre-ripped jeans you wore in Tampa or the Italian leather man bag you wore in Cleveland? I mean, you're asking which one I regret more. Since I regret neither of them, I have no idea how to answer that question. Also, it wasn't an Italian man bag. It was a Colombian man bag. The correct answer would have been the Pink Panther pants, Luke. Thank you.

Okay. Hey, Luke, so many dicks in the wild. We had to put a few on this show. First, I don't know what mountain this is, Luke, but it's – Wow. I was supposed to be in Utah on vacation this past week. I didn't make it, Luke. But, yeah, that's creative right there.

Is that your kid going without you? No. No, no. Okay. Luke, secondly, I don't know what building this is. I think they call it the Peter North Tower, but the 69th floor has been erected. If it was the Peter North Tower, it'd be a lot more coming out of the top.

Wow. Speaking of pipes, Luke, look at the piece on Dan Hendo in this picture. We've seen him with some beautiful Women now we know why Luke I mean men are simple creatures Are they not they just Luke when you go to the beach do the women in your life

Ask you to build a castle Luke A sand castle No why Look at the pride No, why? Look at the pride. Look at the pride. Blow that up. Blow that up.

Look at the smile on the dude who's making, look at him cheesing as he forms the bell end of this fucking thing. Unbelievable. Wow. Luke, shout out to Carla Esparzaza Who will get another chance at a UFC Strawweight title She's the inaugural champion of course But Luke she's also engaged and recently had her

Bachelorette party So speaking of That's a weird looking dick man Like the cake says Luke We wish her nothing but happiness. Yes. Okay, the cake inscription is pretty funny. The dick on top.

I got to tell you, I'm not sure that's a healthy looking dick. Okay, let's try to stay employed. Luke, when I grew up where the true kings of my town were dressed in drug rugs, you better believe that, all the action took place at the McDonald's parking lot on Rubber Avenue, Luke. Fights, car wrecks, the threats of fights, drugs. Check out this fight in the McDonald's parking lot, Luke. Oh, wow. GTA, brother. Yeah. Dude dude what were they bitter about probably bitches oh shit

so wait did this person pull over and try to run these people over and then get the car stuck like why are they not backing up he got the car stuck and now he's got to pay right now that now the bill is oh oh shit oh he's got hands though luke he's got hands bro everyone in this fucking thing has a balaclava on or did yeah this is very much the shoot first ask questions later approach to life that i have not subscribed to which has mercifully at this point kept me out of jail you've never gone third world on somebody is what you're saying Luke

unlike the cab driver who picked me up from the village idiot in New York City one time no I've never gone third world on a motherfucker Luke let's check in on the on our favorite combat sports couple the Beltrans Luke Joey and Brett recently took in a trip to the Beltrans, Luke. Joey and Britt recently took a trip to the Miami Selfie Museum, Luke.

Listen, I understand Joey. I understand this man. He loves fruit, Luke. He's a big fan of peaches. Yes, he likes very ripe and delicious peaches. Who wouldn't? And the presidents of the United States. What a shitty 90s band, Luke. All right, let's keep it going here. ripe and delicious peaches who wouldn't you know and the presidents of the united states what a

shitty 90s band luke all right let's keep it going here look i don't know if you saw this in this uh memphis grizzlies playoff game look are they still in memphis this woman chained herself to the to the hoop in the middle of the game to protest how chickens are uh handled at uh at farms i guess luke did you see this shit it's like dude listen i'll say this i understand uh her claims because it is true that we have just engaged in vast animal torture and uh abuse of their welfare in ways that is hard to describe so she's right about that but i keep trying to tell these people it's like if you fucking interrupt my ball game or dude i've been okay so 395 is the major thoroughfare here in the city almost every day not quite but almost every day the last week when we were gone a bunch of climate activists would block 395 and so people couldn't drive on the highway it's like bro let

me explain something to you there is nothing you could do to make me less sympathetic to your cause than fucking with my life like that so don't do it all right uh you're you are right though all you have to do is watch any number of netflix documentaries to see how badly luke our our nation does with slaughterhouses chickens yeah right ag gag laws all kinds of stuff yeah yeah uh luke i know you heard the word gag and you thought what joke can i make about this that's pornography related can i get a pulp fiction reference in there uh luke that man's nuts grab them it was alcides escobar of the washington nationals taking this pickoff throw right to the pills luke wow bro you know that has to hurt and let me ask you when we were little league and i obviously have no frame of reference for beyond that, I know the catcher probably has to wear a cup and a whole bunch of gear.

Do the ballplayers still wear cups? Every ballplayer. Good choice of calling that. Every ballplayer should be wearing a cup at this level, yes. But are they? Are they? I don't go around checking, Luke. I don't come and knock three times on the ceiling if you want me.

I know you want to. Twice on the pipe. I need you to go to the local yankees locker room and then just inspect everyone's hogs yeah yes yes hey luke we got a visitor it's emma hey her eye is all bloody because reggie's been taking it to her luke in the cat wars my guy reggie jackson he's he's out of control luke okay that cat's about to fuck you up bro yeah that's how all my interactions with women typically end luke you know what i mean yeah all right that's that's not good okay let's make a p word joke but i'm not gonna do it let's bring it home here luke um two more uh gear or no gear the legend Sexy Yama getting it done in the gym and posing Luke what's your take on this?

I'm not judging him I'll just say whatever he is on I would like to have some can we get sponsored by whatever he's on please can we call out to that company if there's a health clinic or whatever euphemistic name they use for these places anymore that wants to put

me on drugs by all means please understand that i am interested morning combat brought to you by balco yeah it's great luke all right uh one more luke this was the clip that that i tried to put on a few weeks ago and it wasn't there this is an all-time have you seen this shit clip let's go to the dorm room this college chick brought her mom mom to school one night to party, Luke. This is how it ended. It ended with me looking at you? Oh, oh, oh, oh, fuck. Oh, God.

Dude, did she just vomit and then slip in her own helmet? Yeah, that last white claw, Luke, put her over the top there, God. Dude, did she just vomit and then slip in her own helmet? Yeah, that last white claw, Luke, put her over the top there, Mom. But, yeah. Jesus Christ, bro. Yeah. This is a reenactment of you and I on the rooftop with Chuck after we finished the first ever pregame preview. I don't know.

I think I might be older than that woman. All right, Luke. That's the only shit I've got this week. We'll check it next week for more. Thank you. Very good. We have time for, briefly, if you want, BC, odds and ends. What do you have for us on odds and ends? Look, Dana White at this weekend's press conferences kind of leaked it out there, and Mike Bone was doing some reporting, and I saw his tweet. It looks like the UFC has

officially made a, at least a request to Jon Jones to return this summer against Stipe Miocic, presumably July 2nd, international fight week. Luke, if they put an interim heavyweight title on Jon Jones versus Stipe for my money, that's more than acceptable as an international fight week main event give me that shit dude give it to me yeah yeah that would be amazing do you believe it not not that the sorry not that we're disbelieving mike's reporting but rather that it will actually happen well mike's reporting is that an offer was made to jones about this specific date um let's not forget that john jones sat out, Luke, presumably for leverage of

his salary. Remember, let's not forget, he came out and said, I want Deontay Wilder money. And then that went nowhere. And he hired Richard Schaefer. And that kind of went nowhere. If he's willing to take, Luke, whatever is the middle ground between what he wants and what they're willing to offer him for this heavyweight debut. There's so much royalty in this. Think about it. Stipe is still kind of considered the greatest heavyweight, the most accomplished heavyweight in UFC history. John's the greatest fighter in the history of the sport. Put them together with an interim title on the line and the chance at fighting Ngannou if he ends up coming back? God, this is great. This is good. Please, John.

John, I know that we've had an up and down history. Mostly it's been you and Luke that's been up and down. Or really down. I mean, he's just, yeah. It had ups before that. It had ups before that. Yeah, it was a few ups. Hey, John, take that.

Take that shit. Take that money, okay? Let's do this. I'll meet you there in vegas i'll save my odds and ends because i'll just tell you what it is but manier lazaz openly shouting out a internationally sought alleged crime and murder boss you know only in mma does this have to be explained to people that it's morally bankrupt to align yourselves to people like that. But okay, I'll make an attempt at it a little bit later. I have to say, the UFC and then Disney in particular, they must be wondering what is wrong that this kind of stuff keeps happening.

Luke, did you see our guy, or my guy, I don't know if you even know him, Alan Dawson of Insider, who recently relocated his family to Las Vegas from the UK and is doing great work for them dude he went hard as a as a mofo and that post-fight presser we're not used to seeing mma media do actual journalism but he did he did um so i give uh i give dawson all the credit in the world for just following the story and then following up with this i mean it's just i cannot believe he said something like not dawson but lazaz i can't believe he said something like that but um there are apparently a lot of people who think that it's totally normal to uh befriend people like that but it is not it is it

is it is uh it is not normal at all will that be an extra credit video coming out today lou it will be it will be yes okay all right set your. There we go. Set your motherfucking watches. All right, BC, that is it for a Monday show. What's the plan for the rest of the day? Just tons of pornography? I might try to unpack, Luke. I might try to make up with Emma the cat. She's fantastic, Luke.

All right, well, you deserve some rest, so please get some. Be on the lookout. We'll have a little bit of a video coming out later. We will have an extra credit as well, so we're going to have both of those. Luke, there's some thought. Okay, Mikey Mormal, our fantastic CBS Sports producer, just shot one out here, Luke. Okay, probably won't be the first time today.

And he said, remember when you guys recorded that other high court episode that never saw the light of day? Yes. No, no, we're saving that. So we could put it out this week or we could save it for when the fights actually made. My vote would be for the latter of those, but,

but it's not a bad call to do it now. I don't even remember what, what, whether the material was good, whether the jokes were good, whether they hit Luke. I don't know. Yeah.

I haven't seen it in quite some time, so we'll have to go back and look, but yeah, we could potentially put that out this week too. Yes. We'll have plenty of content. And by the way, dude, we've got Dillian White, Tyson Fury this weekend. We have another UFC event this weekend.

We've got some Bellator, I think, this weekend as well. Dude, their combat sports calendar is packed this month. So we're going to get you ready for everything. We'll have coverage just the same. All right, so thumbs up on the video. Hit subscribe. MorningCombat at gmail.com for Wednesday's fan subs. Friday's dead wrong. We appreciate that. You can follow

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MK store. Dude, what are you drinking out of that bitch i mean just take the juice and feces is that some gag thing yeah it is luke i got i got gags all over the place luke okay i mean i'm swimming in so much bullshit in this office luke right your house is like a shittier version of Pee Wee's Playhouse? It really is, Luke. It is. It's great. Yeah, it's fantastic. Your chairs just absorb fart stains, but his talked,

you know. Alright, that's it for Brian Campbell, who is just always promoting the brands. That's what he does. I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks to Malka. Thanks to CBS Sports. Thanks to Showtime.

Thanks to everybody who came out and said hi in Dallas. There were a few. And thanks to Stack and Raul Marquez, who did the weigh-in show with us. That was awesome as well. So big week in Dallas, but the month rolls on. We have so much to get to. So thank you guys so much for watching. And until next time, may all of your gains be loyal.