MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Garcia vs Onama: Worst UFC Card Ever? | Netflix Mayweather-Pacquiao 2 Rumors | Ronda Rousey Latest

Episode Date: November 1, 2025

Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell are getting you ready for the weekend in combat sports, starting with Garcia vs. Onama this weekend. Is this the worst UFC card ever? Credible reports in boxing have surfaced saying that Netflix is interested in a rematch of 2015's mega fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. Ronda Rousey was a guest on Burnt Chrysler's godforsaken podcast, but had some interesting things to say. The fellas break it all down!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'd be hard since the beginning In fact I grew up looking up at Bob wire If you know what I'm saying If you know what I'm saying You look like that rapper stitches. Yeah Yeah That's what I'm saying Welcome on in October 31st, 2000 25

you hear them crickets there's two old bitches up in this MK house yeah yeah and boy do we have a bang her well I just met her this weekend in the in the warehouse let's go let's get fired up it's Garcia Onama fight week

and Rhonda Rousey was on burnt Chrysler's podcast so hey this is morning combat let's get come fly with us LT how is it down there did you go out for mischief night and throw some TP around or what no i took toki to like a like a local neighborhood event last night and then we have people coming over today and we have trick-or-treating to go to it's going to be wild yeah it's some

friends some some friends as well so it'll be cool all right all right i was going to say you um you uh i don't think you you threw around the tp last night at mischief night but i heard this morning it was like a men's dress shop up in your bathroom if you Yeah, I mean, it was, it was an epic as, as grandiose as Ben Hur. I mean, truly a, one of those moments we have to reflect quietly on something that just happened to you of great significance, you know? I hear you. I hear you. Yeah, great movie, Ben Hur. Do you ever see Ben Him star in Bruce Jenner? That's just too cheesy, all right? I look forward to us being fired for cause today.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, how are you? Hey, it's morning combat. welcome in you can probably like the show it would probably go a long way subscribe uh shout out to the youtubeers the draft king's network watchers and you divorce dads grocery shopping listening to audio only uh this is the show this is the show that people still care about six plus years later okay because we'd be jamming we'd be real up in this beach uh this is going to be a show today we're going to do some fun stuff look at the news that is uh also play a little bit of uh arange atois with l t if you know what i'm saying saying all right okay two guys one show one one one segment let's see what happens there and then

close with your fan segments your your dead wrongs your uh your fan subs and all that bullshit but what i want to say right off the top though bc have you eaten the rb steak nuggets yet no no so all the rbys in my area kind of disappeared it's been very depressing yeah i can't imagine them to go out of business what with serving you know rat feet and uh uh cadavers yeah serving a certain U.S. soccer team goalies leaked nudes, you know what I'm saying, right? Is that joke still get over in 25? All right.

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UK all right yeah baby yeah let's get randy in here it's uh luciito of the main cardman honestly it's not mine but uh how we doing boys how we doing you know it was a little little cringe of an intro just add into the cringe here uh you know whoopty-do basil i'll show myself out there we Yeah, look, you got to admit, this shit right here is too cheesy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I hope both of you die. Okay.

All right. LT, most importantly today, if I can bring back my regular accent. Yeah. The toekster, you have told me offline that she has been excited about this day for an epic long time. Man, can I tell you what in a sock? Can I show you something that I got for her and see what's great for me? Yeah, let me take off these glasses. I'll be right back.

Take the camera off me. I'll be right back. I want to show you. I mean, look, the fights this weekend are some balls. You know, let's just fucking do some fun shit. Hang on. I'll be right back. Yo, people always ask me, like, what do these represent?

You know what I'm saying? This right here is for all them balloons I've been sucking up behind Arby's. And near the dumpster, you know what I'm saying, right there? And this is all the women I put to sleep, Cosby style. All right, maybe. We'll go that far. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe that's the reaction to this year.

Joke. Okay, thank you very much. Too cheesy back at it once a year. okay what we got all right this is my first time using you ever used Etsy for anything bc no i try to avoid it yeah all right so i used Etsy for the first time now i got to finish as you can see here some of the glue got stuck to a piece of paper i was using to help dry it but i ordered a 3d printed uh staff for one of the characters from k-pop demon hunters my my little girl's going is one of the girls from k-pop demon hunters and i had a lady on etzy

see 3D print her blade and staff. I had to use tape to hold this part together because it's 3D printed, but it's like, it's real loosely 3D printed. But I glued everything else together and sung it all together and I had to put the blade together in pieces, and then I had to mount it in here. What do you think? Looks pretty fucking cool, huh?

Yeah, that does. I love when you like the late Kobe B. Just hashtag girl dad and up in that. I love that, Luke. Okay? So she's like super excited. Will you inspect all of her chocolate for pinholes? Look. pinholes all inspected by swallowing it hold on i got to let the cat in you know it's that kind of a show

anyway my little goal is going as mira from k-pop demon hunters so for any dads or moms out there i mean there's no moms watching this let's be real so for all the dads out there uh you probably know what that is there's a lot of girls going as mira some are going as zoe some are going as uh who's the other one you guys don't know who the other one is you guys don't know shit about that too that show is like crazy popular why would we know shit about that we don't have young kids hey fuck you man they put that back in movie theaters it was so big all right all right it's the most selling costume this year and like Halloween spirit and stuff like that now what's the hook on this demon hunter show is it like about good guys or is it about

some dark shit no it's well sort of it's um the basic idea is that it's a totally accidental hit that Netflix didn't know they had. They put it out and it blew up and they never thought it would. It's a... Kind of reminds me of showtime and morning combat. It's a... It's a cartoon K-pop musical

is the best way I would put it. And they kill demons in it, so it gets a little dark in certain times, but no, it's, you know, it's for little girls. All right, all right. Like, Reggie's back, yo. You know, how long before we got to take that cat

to this? final resting place you know what i'm saying it's a good time to ask you know unfortunately a lot of people in this house have been saying that lately this guy's got a bad reputation he's earned it you know what i'm saying how old is he like almost eight now seven bro you might remember this the barbis got sick and i had to take him to the emergency room one year ago today oh and remember they pulled him out of heart failure he lasted until january and then he ultimately died in january but this was the day i i couldn't go trick-treating last year because because Barbas had to be rushed to the ER.

And then I had to basically pay for a new car to save his life. And he only lived three more months. So was it worth it? I don't know. Wow. One of our darker episodes to begin. But it's time to transition here directly into the program with topic. Number one.

Hey, somebody's going to see it this weekend in the warehouse down in Vegas. It's apex time. It's UFC fight night. Featherweight fisticuffs on the line When a red hot Steve Garcia brings a six-fight win streak Including five KOs into about Against four-fight win-streaking

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That won't slow you down So Luke Thomas Well we're going to be fair hair here on the good side right on the good side the featherweight division has turned over we're looking for fresh blood holloway out top tardia out volk back on top for now but this battle between number 12 and 13 in that one four five division with exciting styles could conceivably produce a new contender but that's not necessarily what i'm asking you about because that's the good the bad is we've asked this question before for but this time i wonder if we mean it l t be honest with me we're all going to watch at least the main event anyway but is this as bad as it gets in the warehouse is this the worst apex fight night card we have had to date or what it's a great question i was talking about this before the show with uh l i'll here and this is kind of where i'm at i'd be curious to get where you're at

i mean we're kind of at a place now where we have to ask a question which is you know if you're looking at all of the various tiers of products that you get from UFC, and that includes everything, right? So that would be Ultimate Fighter, that would be Contender Series, Road to UFC Asia, you name it all the way on up to, let's call it Apex shows, then Fight Nights on the Road, and then ultimately you get to numbered shows, I guess what we're going to start calling those PLEs or whatever. So these are your tiers. If you think about what this is, which is, you know, it's an apex card, it's a formal UFC events. In other words, it's not Contender Series.

It's not one of these tournament shows where people are vying for a spot. They've got a spot now. They're inside the organization. But once you're there, this is the lowest kind of tier of product that the UFC puts out, right? And I'm not even saying this in an insulting way. I'm asking, like, what, how would the UFC meaningfully have a product that, had, you know, less the premier end of their product on it than something like this. Yes, they could actually go through BC and like, you know, engineer the most meaningless

matchups if they wanted to or something like that. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying as the product normally functions, right, under its, the way in which it's been designed and the way it gets turned out to the public, inside the UFC tiers, what I'm saying is not that, I'm not even saying that they're, it's the same time every, it's the same story every card you see which is that could there be some fun fights on this card yep yes of course they're good i don't know what i'm going to get there sometimes they're good sometimes they're bad it's a similar kind of idea but i guess what i'm trying to say is given the suite of products that the

ufc delivers inside formal ufc events themselves i just think naturally this is the kind of lowest tier of product that they make. And your interest in that, obviously, and everyone else is, you know, going to vary. Are you trying to say that this is Calveo versus I tier? Yeah. I mean, listen, I think this is the kind of, it's a weird kind of conversation, right? Because it's a question of, it's not that the question of are the fights potentially good irrelevant. That's of course a relevant question, but it kind of obscures what the more important question is, which is, okay, but I thought this was supposed to be the premier end of the product, the premier end of the sport. It is not the premier end of the sport. In fact, given the tears that

they have within the UFC itself, it's the furthest away from their premier end. And I think that's the point to kind of raise here. And again, everyone has a choice. Do you want to watch it? Do you not want to watch it are there going to be good highlights you know we'll be talking about it regardless i just think we have to be honest about inside the kingdom of classification where would you put this and i'm and i challenge my challenge would be i don't know where you would put this within the suite of ufc products but at the bottom end of the tier just given everything else that they can do yeah i'm with you on that i'm with you largely it was it disappointing to see it felt like this one along with the next fight night main event which has a bone theme in it and has a similar

level of uh i don't want to say who are that guys but you know just not having those couple huge names to grab you that hopefully this is sort of the tail end of the ESPN era and then we kick some absolute buttocks heading into the CBS paramount one right yeah obviously that plays a role too right like this is the end of the deal if my math is right and i think i've been saying this for a while even before they formally announced it, the last event in the ESPN era is an apex card. You know, I mean, I don't think they're going to be phoning it in at all when January starts BC, right? I mean, all indications is going to be launched like a rocket. But they might be doing a little bit of that now.

I mean, I don't think that's the most unfair thing to say. No, I'm with you on that. By the way, your pumpkin mask on top of your head looks like a Shriner's cap when you're looking straight on. Or did you, did you, are you going to wear that to your Masonic Lodge Halloween party tonight, Luke? No, I'm not going to wear this to the Masonic Lodge. What is, I, no, that's, uh, yeah, we'll just let it hit the floor. Uh, Luke, uh, are you impressed, though, when we're talking about Steve Garcia, who gets sort of a side treatment here, uh, and maybe if you want to compare the two has the brighter upside at the moment here at Featherweight, as we are looking for new heroes at 145. How about this statistic that the folks at CBS sports drug up?

Garcia has the largest significant strike differential at plus 375 in UFC featherweight history, which is better than Volk, better than McGregor, better than Holloway. Does that mean he just hasn't faced the top level yet? Or does that mean this is looking like a striker who's ready for the top tier of what we got at Featherweight? Read that stat to me one more time? Garcia has the largest significant strike. differential in UFC featherweight history at plus 3.75. I don't see how that's possible because David Onama has a better one.

Oh, no, excuse me, I'm reading the wrong stat. You're right. That is correct. Yes. Strikes landed per minute, 5.18. Strikes absorbed 2.2. Yeah, dude, Steve's, listen, he started his career very mediocre. And when I say career, I mean, obviously UFC gets a win on contender series, then loses

to Violin Bob Ross, Luis Pena, who's not even in the organization anymore. Comes back, gets a win against Charlie on Tveros. That's nice. Gets it inside, but then loses his next one to Mahershate. Now, since then, BC, so now we're in firmly 2022, the end of 2020. In fact, October 29, 2020,

that's when everything began to turn with a chase hooper stoppage. And that sent him on this incredible win streak that he's been on, which has culminated, obviously, with the Calvin Cater win. And it wasn't just a great Calvin Cater win, B.C., he clearly won that one. He outstruck him nearly four.

to one um he dropped him in the third i mean he held cater to under 30 significant strikes total in the entire bout like he put it on him and what's kind of interesting bc is and this kind of gets lost a little bit um you know listen i remember the days when jackson wink had a ranked fighter on virtually every single ufc card and then multiple champions like it was the it was a factory of the highest end product that the sport could produced from an MMA gym. I mean, St. Pierre was there. Mark War, excuse me, you know, Rashad and Keith Jardine and like, I could just go on and on and on. It was just bonkers what they could do. And it hasn't been that way for quite some time. Jim's go through ups and downs and

not everyone can ride the highlight of the highway for so long. But I'm just trying to point out, here he comes back. I should say, I know there's Aaron Pico out there, but Garcia has been a kind of a day one Jackson guy. You know, it's nice to see Jackson's have a guy who can return to glory. He's earned it the hard way. Kyle Nelson win was great. There are some questions about him hitting the back of the head and that fight and other ones as well. But nevertheless, the point you raise is, is there a reason to be excited about Steve Garcia? My only answer to that would be like just looking at the resume, no question about it. But he is 33. So he's not like, I'm not saying he's done. In fact, look what he's doing. His career best work. What I am saying

is he's finally making a run after the age of 32. And then that gives me some pause about what what the ultimate upside could ultimately be. Yeah, 14 knockouts and 18 career wins for Garcia. Seven in the first round. And you talked about the turnaround, the streak that he's on, started with Chase Hooper, and in with Calvin Cater. So we're getting somewhere. He deserves to be here.

And if this is an introduction of sorts to the non-hardcore fan in this main event on Saturday, then I have to say I like the way Steve Garcia has carried himself this week, including throwing out a couple shots at the champ and his inactivity. Let's listen to Steve Garcia going hard in the paint on Volcanovsky. The way everything kind of went down, I was kind of hoping for something a little bit further ahead. You know what I mean?

It's not a hit on him. It's just, you know, you want to advance your career. It's about you, you know what I mean? And that's how the sport operates, but also Volks, too busy cooking. you know what I mean so he's holding everybody up at the top so he just needs to make a decision just pick somebody I don't know just pull it out of a hat somebody right because they're all waiting get the get the division going again you know what I mean so at the top you know I feel like we can still fight so that's what we're doing Luke though that wasn't close enough for shots fired

but I like that he's taking a few jabs to the champ get get his attention a little bit yeah I mean these are two guys that are making their way in the UFC without making waves. And as you can see, that is in some ways good and bad. It's good in the sense that you're not constantly mired in these crazy controversies for outrageous behavior. Alas, at the same time, you see, that is a very great way to get the kind of forward momentum in your career in this business that you sometimes need. This was not so crazy. This was not particularly outrageous, but to the point you raised,

finally banging the pots and pans, as I like to say. Like St. Angers. Lars Ulrich on the St. Anger recordings, you know what I'm saying? What I wanted to ask you related to this title picture is,

I think we all would have assumed that Volk versus either Lerone Murphy or Moussar I have been announced by now. It's not. What is the hold up? Is it the cooking show on YouTube, Luke, to the great success and clicks, or what do we got going on here? I think they want to save him.

for Australia, right? They haven't announced anything even starting in the Paramount era at all. So, yeah, I just think we're in a, you know, listen, the, the most important way to understand the UFC product is simply to understand that the calendar needs come first and then everything else second, you know, so. All right. Well, we've got those two names at the top here. We've got some second level guys like Aljo trying to get back on top, Yusuf Zalalal, Arnold

Allen, if he can get back. in there still top level. But after that, there are a lot of retreads in the mix, although I'm sure Lord Silva will be heard from again. So big opportunity here for either man. Let's talk a little bit more about David Onama as he comes in 14 and 2 record on a four-fight win streak, as I mentioned, six of seven overall,

11 stoppages in 14 wins, six in the first round. And Luke, he comes here by way of a victory over Giga Chikaze. Do you believe that he's done enough to really make this feel like a 50-50 action fight hadn't ended Saturday. Yeah, I absolutely think so, dude. Onama is a fun fighter. Now, he's a little bit more blood and guts

than, well, it's, okay, in certain ways can be a little bit more blood and guts because of the way which he fights. But like, dude, think about, they're both south paws. They're both kind of rangey, right? They both like to pressure forward. They both will fight in either kickboxing range, and that's where some of the differences begin to emerge.

But, you know, they kind of like to forward press the action. Now, Onama seems to me, a guy, and this will, I think, will be one of the interesting tensions, BC. Onama, to me, likes to press forward, but is a little bit more selective and takes times to, takes a little bit more time to set things up, whereas Garcia's got a lot of combination work. So, for example, he's really good about that left high kick. Then when he comes down, throwing that left hand and then the right hook behind it, like he's just, he's just applying it all the time.

And Onama seems like he's a little bit more thoughtful about it, although his activity rate is also pretty high too, but that can encompass a lot of things, like the, you know, like sort of checking leg here. Because what I'm trying to make is, I think that's going to be one of the central tensions is who gets the other one to back up, who's the one leading with volume, who's the one, you know, and not just pressuring in a general stance, but the other person can't get their rhythm going because they're being pressured out of it. The interesting part to me is to what extent Onama might go for takedowns.

And Garcia's got pretty good takedown defense, not not the best I've ever seen, but good. and the decent ability to get up. This is going to be a really, I mean, this is, these two guys do a lot of the same things. They have a similar-ish kind of frame. And kind of a sort of the basic conditions under which they thrive are all pretty similar. So how does somebody win that?

Well, one of them has to take that away from the other one. And how they do that, given that they are seemingly so closely matched, that actually makes for, that's what we're talking about earlier, kind of an interesting tension. Yeah, I mean, I actually, to be honest with you, with Ante Delizias, we'll talk about them in a second, recent rise, the connection to Aspinall. I was wondering if that should have been the main event, but there is a little bit more at stake, at least in the short term future. And this one, considering both of these guys are ranked in the top 15, and both are looking to make that leap, not just into the top 10, but to legitimately become a name here. So we've got David Onama talking about what's at stake and what's on the line for him as he climbs the rankings. It's going to be on the fee for me.

I don't know what he's going to plan is, but yeah, I think most of the time it will be standing, be standing, and yeah. Yeah, it went over Steve Garcia will put me in the top 10 division for sure. You know, getting a win over him would definitely climb me up, you know, especially for a main event. I guess a tough opponent, you know, it'll definitely put me in the top 10. Interesting stuff. Hey, Long Island Luke is a huge fan of the risers on the prelims because he's doing bong rips on his podcast live during those fights to tell you about it. To see these two graduate to this point must be good to see

and hopefully one will break through in a big way. Where do we look at this from an odd standpoint with draft kings? And how do you like this fight? I mean, right now Steve Garcia is minus 125, David Onama plus 105. So I feel like whatever way you're leaning, you got good value on either side. personally i want to stay away from the money line completely i took the over one and a half in a parlay this is one of those fights where like steve garcia especially most of his fights end by knockout but i weirdly feel like this is going to go the distance so prediction wise

i'm calling steve garcia by decision which is kind of a wild take but uh over one and a half is my official fight dude garcia just knocks at the door more you know what i mean he's just constantly asking for an opportunity to use offense and he's like a jehovah's witness right i mean uh you you know, like the Mormons are nice people, but they knock on the doors a lot, you know, they got, they got a story to tell. But this is, I'm being serious. Like it is just, dude, it's a numbers game, honestly. I'm not saying he throws an outrageous amount of volume, but he's always looking for stuff. And that honestly unlocks so many doors. People don't otherwise get to walk through. Yeah, indeed. Luke, we got Long Island's Luke take on here.

I do like Garcia by an edge as well. So I think the odds are spot on. what has to happen here for onama here to get this win i mean is it does it behoove him to make this a war i think he i think something akin to what he got with giga chikaze where he was tearing apart gigas lead leg which made him go south paul so then that part of that fight was fought that way but really it was three takedowns and he didn't do necessarily a ton with them but it obviously took the wind out of the sales of gigas game and i think steve garcia competes with lot of intensity and he maintains that intensity as you saw in the caterabout for example for fairly long periods as a consequence and so for that reason i just feel like you know it's worth

considering um just how important i think pressure is going to be here but but really mixing it up mixing it up for me for onama is going to be pretty crucial he gets hit too much for a guy that finds ways to combine striking offense too easily for that to not be a factor. But if he can play that game a little bit and then bring in some of the other talents to bear, I think that is a winning formula for Onama. But can he execute it? We shall see. Yeah, we're going to have to find that out on Saturday night.

Let's talk about this co-main event. I do like it. Waldo Cortez Ocosta had a five-fight win streak and was kind of becoming an interesting option here at heavyweight, the salsa boy himself, with his ground skills with his aggressiveness he's a little bit awkward as well he had that streak snapped of course last fight by sergey pavlovich but he answers a streaking ante delisia former pfel tournament champion who made the incredible ufc debut with that first round destructive knockout last time out getting the rub of course from training with tom aspinall and we know the brewing storyline

that uncle dana really doesn't like about these two that of course ante has eaten at uh at aspinall's table he's met his family and kids so tom will not be fighting him no matter what but at 35 walking trouble from croatia uh luke you saw what he did to martin tibera last fight who is a a well-valued gatekeeper in this division we asked how high the prospects were of him making a leap is that him is the guy that we saw can he continue to do that in this division against this level of competition? Probably a decent chance at it, yeah. I mean, to your point, Cortez Acosta had a good run up until recently, but it was kind

of fighting some diggedy donks. I mean, the spitback win was pretty nice, right? I mean, the other ones, you know, Ryan Span blown up a little bit and stuff like that. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. But, Ante DeLia, I mean, he fell short against Valentine or Valentin Moldovsky, but otherwise has been, for the most part, more recently pretty good. beating on some of the UFC vessel on the way, smoking Hen and Faheda inside a round, I believe.

So I would actually say that Delea's speed and ability to cover distance and certainly the experience that he has relative to Ocosta, Cortez-A-Costa, is pretty good. Cortez-A-Costa, I don't know what you want to say. I wasn't a big believer, and then he ran that wind streak into the Spivak win, and I was like, well, you know, Pavlovich is kind of falling off, and here comes Cortez-A-Costa, and then he couldn't get the job done. So I was like, well, I'm not so sure anymore.

I don't think that Delia is that kind of a puncher. And I do think that makes a difference. But at heavyweight, they're all pretty big punchers. And he's a reasonably fast one. Yeah, I would say that there's a good case to think Delia can get this done here and even further. Yeah, yeah, Delia likes to bang and not call you back. Luke, he doesn't care how old you are. But to talk about the heavyweight Delia, I have to agree with what you're saying right there.

Good run from Waldo. but this feels like another setup to find out at 35 are you that guy that you look like in the first fight against tabura quickly long island oh what do we have for odds on this one sorry i was so thrown off by that chris delia joke i was just laughing so hard oh god is that what you made i didn't i didn't understand what you were saying did you make a chrys the lea joke he said he'll bang them no matter what the ages or something uh delia minus 130 cortez acosta plus one to him okay i I mean, that's almost closer than I think it should be. Wow.

Sorry. That was too cheesy. Okay. That's who you got to. That's who you could send your letters to a morning combat at jubel.com. I was honestly, I, you go in one ear and out the other. I wasn't listening to a fucking word you were saying. Yeah, that normally shows through it as the show progresses, just so you know.

But, uh, but Luke, um, seriously here, I like Waldo. But I feel like if ante really is knocking on that door potentially in a, in a shallow division of maybe becoming a thing at heavyweight, right? Pavlovich is kind of still a thing. Volkov, Blades lingering. We need more things in this division at this moment, whether it's Walter Walker, if he ever turns out to be real or he's just sniffing feet.

We'll find that out too. But Luke, does Cortez-A-Cost on your eyes have the game that can expose? What anti-Dalia, Delicia, however you want to say it, doesn't do well. Is he a potential kryptonite? And that's why you're seeing him. as such a slight underdog? Yeah, yeah.

Or I think people maybe wonder, did he hit his ceiling, you know, with the Pavlovich finds like, oh, right, this streak was not fool's gold, but the buck stops here kind of situation. And Delea, obviously having done so well in PFL and coming over here, and he's still getting a bit of a, I'm not sure what it means right now, but getting a bit of an aspirin, that sort of a thing. I think all of those factors are kind of working together, so to speak, to. to put the odds where they are.

But it's, you know, listen, I think it's also foolish to count out Cortezocosta, BC. I mean, are we really suggesting that Delia is so much better that he's just going to go in there and just lay it down on this guy? Like, he's got a, that Cortes of Costa has a good chin. He's a little heavy, but pretty athletic, reasonably speaking anyway. He doesn't, he can take big punches, but he's, for the most part,

halfway decent about getting out of the way of them. Like, this is a very good chance this one goes the distance because Cortez-A-Costa can slow it down or DeLea could over-commit with some of these blitzes? Like, I think it's a very, very competitive fight. I just feel like you're asking me, does DeLia have what it takes to beat a guy of this caliber? The answer is I think so, but it's competitive.

I mean, he's proven that, and by the way, Long Island Luke reminding us that Cortez-A-Costa was the favorite for much of this fight week until just recently, but we do know anti has wins over names. We know like Jorgand de Castro, Maurice Green, Matea Sheffle, when he was on that nice run there in PFL, Henan Faheda.

We talked about how he got here, Dennis Goitz of all that. I think he's of this ilk. I'd almost rather, though, to find out how close he is to being a legit threat. I'd almost rather him have trouble trekking wall, though, down, and this becomes a test of his cardio, a test of a lot of things. He's proven that at PFL before against names we just mentioned. But right here, right now, the lights are brighter, not everybody. Unfortunately, I'm talking about Pachi Mix.

Aaron Pico have made that transition from the other leagues to this one as smooth. despite what our expectations were coming in. But Luke, what do you make about the friendship here between Aspinall and Ante? We've seen it before with D.C. and Cormier. Mara bin Aljo are brothers for life. They live across the street from each other. It's not overly likely that A. DeLea will get to that point or B, Aspinall will still be there. We have no idea what's going to become of this heavyweight division.

but what the hell like if tom literally gives up the bell like i'm sorry i like anti delia a lot but he ain't cane right like when yeah that would be madness that would be madness i appreciate what they're saying to preserve the relationship and maybe this will naturally sort itself out where we don't have to worry about this uh for example it never came to because of st pierre Koshchek and Fitch never really had to fight. There was a lot of pressure on them to fight at the same time when they were at AKA together. But the reality was if it was ever going to happen and they were adamant, it wouldn't. But if it was ever to happen, it would only probably happen if one of them had the title and the other one was gunning for it.

And they never got to that position. But here in the case of Aspinall and Delia, not only do you have a guy that at least for now is the champion, but the other guy doesn't seem that far away. To me, you need to make a decision. either you're both you can do the cane and DC thing which is that where you just go your separate ways to separate divisions and that's what it has to be

or you have to fight each other because this is not Kosteck and Fitch where it's not really relevant as a concern for now anyway it could be very relevant. If you lose this who cares? If Aspinall loses, whatever. If they keep winning

it only leads to one place and the idea that people are just going to surrender a title out to avoid affecting this relationship, you're in this, like you can't, what a silly thing to do at the highest level of the sport. This is not a jujitsu tournament where you can just close out together and it's a win for the fucking team. Somebody has to take it from the other guy, not just walk away from it because we're trying to preserve something under those circumstances or BC preserve it, but then you guys have to just do other things with your life. That's the other

answer. I mean, I said it was unlikely because both would have to happen. You know, they would have to both stay on top. And is it Delea or Delegia? What the hell? Long out, Luke, can you? I think it's Delea. I really, I question it too. I think it's Delia. Delea. Yeah. What did John Annex say in the last point? That really, that does, that does. I could pull up this sound file. Let me pull it up. All right. Thank you so much. But at the same time, Luke, I don't know how long John Jones or Poetton are both going to be in this division. I don't know. you know if the if anyone will develop it may end up happening if this dude keeps knocking out dudes although it's only been one fight and that was only against the gatekeeper level i know a lot has to happen but maybe it will if aspinall really is that dude and once he gets his vision changed you know we're going to see a difference there look a big time difference so yeah i mean the heavyweight division is in tatters if this is a thing we're talking about but yes this is you're right yeah uh do you see by the way that uh hamdi abd elahab got cut for fighting after after after quitting his job to go full time yeah yeah and he also we didn't give him credit he's got really

nice pecks luke i mean here's the thing though not about his pecks he he wasn't i did not think that he showed enough well-roundedness to merit staying on the roster you got mic parkin vibes yeah well the thing i'm saying is like i don't know what the uc's supposed to do dude because everybody coming up is kind of like a version of this and like that's absolutely not a thing that you can sell a division around so they're cutting people like this and it's like okay great but like where are the names of the guys up and coming who are a clear antidote to this and i'm not sure what the answer is you know yeah sorry luke uh and long island luke did point out that you were correct this whole time it's delia just like prince andrew uh so no sorry sorry so i i tried to write it phonetically but it's delia

Delia. Delia. I have the sound file, but it's M4A, and it won't let me load it in right here. Thank you. Can we hear the other sound file of Ante Delia talking about the fallout of his teammate Tom Aspinall's disastrous soul poke from Cyril God? What were your reactions to how that fight finished? I think he did a great job with not continuing. and if more fighters do the same thing,

I think we can prevent the same thing from happening again. Absolutely 100%. I think more fighters should do the same thing and more fighters should be punished for behaving that way and I do believe we're going to stop with that whatsoever. I really don't understand I had 33 fights and I never poked somebody in the eye and I do believe that the punishment for that should be severe.

Last week he said that he would never fight you for the title that he would vacate the title for you what was your reaction when he said that He's a really, really dear friend of mine and I do believe with that statement he really showed his character I would also not fight against him for the belt Yeah, that's what's going to happen

Aspinall will keep the belt and you won't fight against him This idea that he would give it up like I mean Dude life is too short to live it this way you got to have a better plan than this this is not a good plan this is i side with dana i side with dana getting upset in this case there are you know in this case not i i just feel like wait and wait and see what they do when the time comes because they'll say anything now partly as a way to just signal allegiance so it's like okay fine let them say what they want to

say maybe the reality is when the bill comes due that they change their tune but as a general rule if they maintain this what like what kind of insane career sabotage self-sabotage this would be like you can't live this way if you guys both want to achieve things you have to do them in different places like that's just where you're at you know yeah just fight for it uh luke you put in the rundown the winner of this could be a line for a title shot what the hell are you talking about um i don't think that that's super crazy i mean so i mean not in front of jones and aspinall like volkov has it above whoever it ever happens here plus the teamate problem you're right you're right But I would caution, like, I, maybe not with Walt, maybe not with Cortez-A-Costa, but with Delia.

None of these guys are like super popular attractions that have any kind of real sway. So that changes the argument. I guess I'm just pointing out, if they need to keep people busy, like, they'll call upon winners of fights like this as like, oh, if Volkov gets injured and they, you know, they want to move the title cycle through. Now, again, we're sort of past a point where, you know, the Jones. thing has been settled one way or the other he's fighting he's not whatever that situation is but like i'm just pointing out it's it's a like you know their team 65 and the tournament of 64 but they're on the bubble of being in a place where interesting things can happen very quickly for them i guess is the way i put all right i'm going to pick ante delia delia there's a three

round fight not a five rounder i think it goes the distance too i think we learn a lot more about him and i really think he's fighting on the blades pavlovich level next fight which by the way is the last stop before you're in that number one contender level with where the division is right now because he's seasoned because he has that pfl experience against names i'll agree that he's a lot closer waldo no but this guy's a lot closer uh regardless of where that friendship situation stands luke what else do you like on this card if anything there are a couple gems up i mean gems is maybe a strong word um all right so let's Let's go through here a little bit and see what we like. Ketland Vieira versus Norma Dumont is relevant, number four versus number five, essentially, or I think we're right around that in this division. So that's actually an important one. Tolita Alancar, who is a great jiu-jitsu practitioner, is back.

She's six-and-one at Strawway, taking on Ariani Carnalosi. I'm not sure if I pronounce the last name right. So you've got some interesting fights there. Phil Roe, the Philly Fresh guy is on this one. He's taken on a Korean dog by the name of Seyak-Hun-Co. so there's going to be some interesting ones there now i'm guessing long island luke that you're partial to the isaac dolgarian and yadier del vallier fight am i am i wrong about that no i was going to shout out the phil row suckyong co fight i mean co's that guy who got the upset

win over oban elliott uh in his ufc debut phil row is just fun as hell all of his wins come by all was good oh by the way sidreik dumas is on this fucking card and the the guy he's fighting is Six and O with six first round knockouts, so he might get his lights put out pretty early. What does it take to get released from your UFC deal? I honestly don't know the answer to that anymore. Sam Alvey went nine straight fights without a win, and they didn't. Yeah, but he also wasn't like accused. True, true.

I'm saying. Accused of committing allegedly fairly heinous crimes during that time. You know what I'm saying? How about Charles Radkew versus Daniel Franza could be fun just because they both get finished a lot and they both. Radkees the, Radkees the Magadonk. Yeah, he's, yeah, yeah, you know, I don't agree with his call. I mean, look, they all are.

I mean, you just got to move back. No, no, but some are more in your face about it. I think I thought, I remember the Canadians booing the shit out of him, right? He said, if I don't remember what kind of slur, but he definitely said a slur in one of his post-fight interviews. Radkee, or not Radke. I forgot. Anyway, two things I'm looking at. One, Montserrat Ruiz, Luke brings her three-fight losing skid back to the cage.

Remember when Cheyenne was going to follow that bitch home? yes uh you you more so than i but okay and what about in this uh fight before the coleman event jeremiah wells against thembo garimbo garumbo has been making news this week and seemingly pissing everyone off wasn't he the guy who uh who had his uh fix your house with uh with the rock he won that show and then he uh and now he's saying that he's he needs to feed his kids so he's willing to kill a man in the cage if necessary he said that at media day this week Yeah, he, dude, he fought a bunch in 2024. He fought one, two, three, four times losing ultimately to Vicente Lucay in the first round.

This is his first fight back. Jeremiah Wells, good athlete, powerful physical athlete. I think sometimes gets a little bit over in front of his skis with the kind of aggression he likes to go for. But certainly a sturdy challenge. This one is probably fun. But the Garimbo situation, I'm not, he's at a weird, he's at a weird UFC run, right? where the rock was like here's a house and you're like oh this is

incredible like feel good story and he did do well but like I feel like some of that shine has fizzled along the way um I would have finished in his last fight in like under a minute by Vicente Luque's what I said oh I didn't say under a minute but by Vicente Luke yeah so I feel like it's dropped it since

then but he was kind of hyped up before yeah all right there's a few weird storylines I mean if they led Dumas fighting with the lowjack on I love that Luke that's just like some Rawway State. Dude, they did that at BKFC. Then fucking guys had ankle monitors. I think he got to take it. The judge had him take it off.

Okay. Okay. But, you know, I mean, dude, this is Well, that right there is the sport of Kings. Oh my God, bro. That right there is topic number one to look ahead to the weekend. Before we get to topic number two, I did want to look back quickly last night. No assets to share, but Luke, did you see the couple second COO from Gable Steven and the dirty boxing

Nashville main event against probably the guy who set up the cage but also your boy John Jones wearing an eye patch begging Dana for a White House fight. Yeah, I don't care about that part. But the Gable Steven part, I mean, obviously he's got the worst past ever as well. Apparently

all these fighters do today, but we're just assessing what he can do in the ring. The chaos I didn't care about. He fought, you know, whoever the fuck. It doesn't mean much. Did you see him jump over the fucking ropes? No, I didn't see that. That sounds awesome. Long Island Luke, did you see him do that? All I saw was the Brian battle finish on and see anything else.

Dude, we can't, I don't know if there's any way for you to get a screenshot. I'm talking about the ropes of the actual dirty boxing. I don't know if it's a, I guess it's a ring. It's a ring, yeah. He knocks the guy out, and then he kind of turns around and celebrates, and then just runs, but, you know, just a few steps. And then in one jump, jumps over the top fucking rope and then lands like a fucking panther. I was like, I wonder if he wishes he could ever be that athletic.

That's incredible. Luke also on this car, Brian Battle had a wacky fight where he got hurt early, rallied back and then landed that one more blow as his opponent was on his knees looking up at him. Do you know his opponent was that dude in the Diaz camp who brawled with Miles Vidal's coach at that at that presser that I was at? He is?

Yeah, the dude with the red hair. I think that's the same dude. Also, and this was one of the more feel-good winning. that I've seen in a long time to a great guy. Former Bellator MMA upset star. Big Tuna. Big Tuna. Ben Parrish, who has bounced around in recent years, had some ups, had some downs.

Dude, he looked real good last night on dirty boxing, got a first round K.O. I'm talking about like Big Tuna 2.0, the era begins. Yeah, we're big fans of Big Tuna. I'm happy to hear that. He's always had good hands. He's always been a guy who put them on you if you stand around along and a lot. So shots to Ben Parrish. I'm glad to hear he got the win.

Yeah, great, great work out there, big tuna. Also, good stuff. Also, real quick, Michaela Mayer moved up to 154 last night for top rank. Did she win? I didn't even see. Won the unified championship, her third weight title. She started that, she wanted a title at 130, 147, now 154 at 35 and on top of her game. You got to give her credit for that.

Who called the fights? It was on the top rank classics, like, 2B, or Fast Networks channel. I've seen not a single. highlight on my timeline nothing look here's the best i could get bro bro look at this shit what the fuck he just goes right over it i was like that's sick that is insane that's insane all right let's go to topic number two uh these are real credible reports from credible reporters and not just another wacky carnival announcement possibly here those reports surfacing saying that Netflix is interested in a rematch of the biggest boxing matchup financially of all time,

the 2015 megafite between Floyd Mayweather and Mani Pacquiao to the point that there's even talk that it could be at the sphere in Las Vegas. So Netflix loves the carnival stuff right now. Luke, the bigger picture, because I haven't heard a damn person yet say they would be all for this because obviously what is Floyd 48, Manny 40, or just turning 40. shortly, and it would be a real fight, by the way. But what does this say about the state of boxing in general? I mean, we're coming up on a Jake tank fight that not a damn person wants or cares about

and the very disturbing news of yet another domestic violence-based lawsuit filed against Jervante Davis only makes that worse. It's carnival season here. Boxing feels like it's in the toilet until we see what Turkey and TKO have next year. But what does it say about boxing that? Netflix would want this over Benavitas better be of you know what I'm saying dude this is um I'm starting I'm starting to get some kind of like fair all right maybe this is doom and gloom I wouldn't be the first time I had a doom and gloom prediction bc right wouldn't be the first

probably won't be the last so by all means take this with a grain of salt let me just tell you what I'm I'm not even saying this is what I fully agree with but what's swirling around my head which is, dude, I just cannot get out of my head the parallels that I think might be there to late 90s, early 2000s Japanese MMA. And of course, there's very, very many, you know, many different circumstances between the two, like a ton. There's a lot of things that don't overlap about them. But the point I'm trying to make is I thought that boxing could tolerate the kind of Jake Paul thing.

as a side show, and I'm not even trying to be demeaning. What I'm trying to say is there's the relevant side of the sport and people who, you know, the most people will care about this. And if there's this kind of extra audience that has some boxing fans, but some that are not, that are interested in this kind of, you know, again, what do you want to call it, YouTube boxer side of things, whatever, then that's fine. And they don't need to really compete.

They don't really compete. They don't really, they're just kind of serving somewhat overlapping, but ultimately pretty different audiences and now I'm not sure I believe that anymore now I think that it might be it's not like what Jake is doing is like he's ruining boxing he is a symptom of a diseased

kind of sport like his ascension shouldn't be possible in an otherwise healthy system when I say ascension I don't mean just having some kind of role dude like he's got I mean fucking fought in front of a hundred million people with Mike Tyson in on on Netflix like like like like I'm not even doing a bit boxing just basically doesn't get much bigger than that not in terms of audience size I mean that was a huge huge fight I mean the answers look like you know

maybe whether Pacquiao won was bigger you know what I'm saying BC but the point I'm trying to say is it feels like there are no stars in in boxing particularly American boxing and what the people who want big events are being forced to do is play the hits they're having versus battles between no limit and uh who's the other one from new orleans uh cash money records right i mean it just feels like you're just playing the old hits again because nobody is making anything new that matters in the running man luke that's all people do these days you know what don't you feel like that that is it's not just a like it's the problem is what does that say about the sport yes dude 2015's mayweather pack yeah one was late

there was consternation in 2015 BC you were there I was there you remember this people were like this fight's happening a little late it's happening a little late and then Pacquio's shoulders fucked up the fight was a bit of a dud and people were like they were 38 and 36 age wise in the first fight despite the fact that they were still one and two pound for pound but yeah I mean

five and a half six years is probably aggressive a legit four years to it yeah so my point I'm trying to make is now we're 10 years, about to be 11 years after that, and they're asking to bring that back. Do we were there when Floyd fought Logan? And Logan, you know, is obviously a pretty good athlete, but Floyd couldn't put him away and even said after in the post-fight presser, I'm done with real bouts. Like, I'll do this, you know, fun, influence or stuff or whatever.

But like, I'm not, I'm not doing this. I wouldn't fight a real boxer anymore. He was, and he was like kind of humble about it, which I don't ever say about Floyd Mayweather. And he was humble about it. And here we're doing this. dude it to me like if again if there were huge bouts happening in conjunction with this i don't know that i would care but these are the only seemingly i know we just had kennel le crawford but like

these kinds of things and that the netflix is pining for it dude it makes me feel a little weird about the state of the fucking sport man oh yeah i mean yeah it's yeah i'm with you completely turkey's been quiet lately like when when he's putting on bangers since he controls these days the majority of the star fighters in the game, of course, I don't feel this way as much. But, and obviously that big ring card coming out at the end of November is very good with Benavitas in the main event in Haney versus Norman. But yeah, here's the problem, okay?

I mean, the problem is the fight's unnecessary. They're too old. And if it was an exhibition, I'd hate it more. But I also hate it as a real fight. If only, to be honest, if only Mani Pachiao, who got a draw against Welterweight title holder Mario Barrios earlier this year, If only he had one, and rightfully, he should have, if you rewatch that fight and score it, he kind of got a raw deal. We talked about that a lot.

At least we would have this, a rematch with the actual world title at stake and Floyd's unbeaten record. And even though, yes, it's an old guy's side show. That just happened sometimes. The legend of Pacquiao stumbled into a real title, and it was enough to get Floyd back in shape, and here we go. It's both at the same time. it really does matter and it's a complete side show but just because of that one little change and the judge is scoring a draw rather than a manny victory it's it's now a complete side show and these are the marquee fights like i i really i've said it from the beginning i really hope

jake tank doesn't happen i just it's just it's just not it's just not necessary i guess i want to say in the arc of gervante davis but the arc of jervante davis is is going downhill repeatedly not just in his outside the ring stuff but he was uninspired and overwhelmed against roach he talked about retirement coming into that anyway um he's obviously holding up really big fights that could be happening in boxing including the chikor stevenson one uh but at this point it's like how many more times could he get caught for the same thing or accused of the same thing and we're just going to sit here and be okay with it you add that onto a fight that no one wants and the ticket sales aren't moving makes me feel bad luke makes me feel bad i mean i didn't feel great being at

that danny garcia finale which was very underpopulated i don't feel great that every week the last two months we're like where the hell is the sport i know we got some decent fights coming up lubin ortees like you know there's some one-offs coming up uh ben versus ubank too but damn man can i ask a question but you know this is a show for questions luke long on look i would like to get your impression here too let's combine the this conversation with what we've talked about with topology where the at least in the dominant three markets in mb maybe some other ones but certainly the dominant ones that the number of overall events are declining. Are people becoming less interested in combat sports after a boom period?

I don't think it's after a, uh, 2005 to 2019, even though parts of the pandemic in there too, obviously, but certainly that period was one of the most explosive growth periods of combat sports in my life. Yeah, but it was also like so new at least for UFC. We're talking about, as well like you know the ufc in 2005 is what 12 years old so it's like it was so new at that point i don't know man i do think it's going down a lull right now but i do think it's going to come back up i think the paramount kickoff will help ufc and hopefully they can maintain that i think overall luke the warehouse cards all the stuff that we complained about the last two years to some degree has watered down the the mhm this is boxing too you can't wait i'm getting to boxing i'm saying it's

definitely watered down the crossover cultural appeal. Partly is, of course, UFC not building up stars as aggressively, but on the flip side, but not only was UFC red hot post-pandemic, boxing was pretty damn red hot in 2003 with all those big fights, Tank versus Ryan, Spence Crawford, what have you. I think, I'm going to be really honest. I think as good as Turkey has done in not only bringing big fights together that we always say probably wouldn't have because of the money,

and if it works out, unionize. and organizing the sport under one entity, which is the goal, the biggest fail in that has been keeping all the big fights on his own pay-per-view where you have to have a zone subscription to order it and not putting stuff on national television, not doing enough Netflix shows until his first one, their Canello Crawford, which was a major success. I think that's really put boxing deeper into the niche bowl.

Showtime going away as well, didn't help that. Top Brain can't get a TV deal here. we are i don't think that means it's dead and not coming back but it's a low period and if you're somebody who wants to be a boxing fan but they make it difficult for you and you hated tyson paul rightfully so and you're probably going to hate may what mayweather pack you out too as much as you're going to hate jake tank so this is what we got okay because if you don't i mean that's the problem with being on the zone i've always been honest with that the only people in America on disowner boxing fans that's it that is it no one's stumbling across that like they

might on their amazon prime menu or you got to say Netflix does a good job of putting fights in front of you my wife out of nowhere two days ago was like so let's talk about gervante davis's tattoos i'm like what what what how did we you know and then i'm like oh the netflix effect yes it's just i'm just telling you like they're the ones being like okay we want to have a big boxing event. Let's go get Mayweather and fucking Pacquiao as they bang 50s door down. Well, you know, it's a bunch of executives going, but

Tyson got us a lot. These guys can probably get close to that, right? Okay, but okay, who are the other boxers who could do that, that are active and, you know, right? Well, we would have that if they fought each other. And I hope they will soon. I hope they don't. Motherfucker, that's what I'm saying. Well, some of them have had problems. Tanks had problems. Ryan's had problems.

Like, these are the guys that are usually responsible for these really big fights. Spence never fought again. fought in fairness tank and ryan fought each other but i know what you mean like you know in general no but they they fought each other and then they both kind of went away lately in terms of mattering so uh yeah it sucks and that's all i have to say about it do you have that right field tweet do we have any other info about this is uh this is what he reported uh 10 years yeah all right all right uh the fight is contemplated as an official match yep not an exhibition uh these talks are

real the quote the source said but who knows if it'll get done so luke simultaneously of course, Manny Pachia was also publicly entertaining an exhibition match with a retired Vasily Lomachenko that I have to say, Manny, you just fall for a title at 46. If you got Loma out of retirement, who's in his early 40s and you did this just as a legit fun kind of mini super fight, I'd be all for it. You put that exhibition tag on there, miss me with it. You know what I'm saying? Like seriously, I don't want this.

Also, it seems that this Maypack 2 talk has rightfully killed whatever. that Floyd Mayweather versus Tyson exhibition idea was that inevitably would suck too. So there we are. That's good. I mean, I'll take Mayweather Pachial too over Mayweather Tyson. You know what I mean? Especially if it's a real bout. I mean, I don't want

that either. Dude, what are we doing? Why are guys near, I mean, dude, how much money is Pachio? Oh. Does he owe a ton of money? I don't know his financial situation, but somebody should check Michael Kahn's bank account. Okay. Thank you. His old financial guy. I mean, top ranks on fucking top rank classics at the moment this sport is in chaos maybe dana is the safer we need luke i don't

know if chaos is the word or free fall but it's in trouble free fallen but you can't kill it larry merchant was right you can't kill it there'd be another superfighter on the corner i just hope the guys are under 40 i really do thank you so much topic number three talk about this for a viral podcast burnt christler's got a godforsaken show can you imagine going on his podcast and thinking this This is a good idea. Yeah, and the worst laugh of all time, luckily he kept his shirt on, but he welcomed Rhonda Rousey. And I was just going to say, man, Rhonda Rousey has done some interviews lately, and for the

first time or a long time, she didn't piss me off. And I was like, I get where she's coming from. Now, granted, those interviews were about pro wrestling. This was about MMA. And this riled a few people that already didn't like Ronda Rousey, rightfully so up, namely that she still appears to be at odds with both MMA. fans and in MMA media and MMA fandom in general. She also dropped a doogie on Joe Rogan that was kind of surprising.

To the level here that before we get Luke's take, we kind of had a call in our friends from Cuervo because spicy Ronda getting rowdy like shots fired style. This shot fired segment, of course, brought to you by Cuervo. is a good time to enjoy tequila that invented tequila and we are probably right around the corner here by the way from UFC 322

pregame preview MK with Quervote to get ready here is first round around talking about Joe Rogan with burnt Chrysler. Is there a price point that would get you back in the OXcon? I mean I have everything I want. There's nothing that would really change my life on it. Let's do price points on this. Okay

a billion dollars. $150 million. Billion dollars. $350 million. Billion. You're just fighting Burt Kreiser. All right. I will beat the shit

out of you in your backyard for this house. How long do I get to train? I was just talking to Joe on the walkover. How long for me to train to beat Ron? That'll never happen.

He wouldn't know. He's not an expert. He's a fan with an audience. That's interesting. Is that how you feel about you? Never. fought he fought he fought he fought taekwondo right never fought that's not fighting it's not fighting well i'm gonna exit this conversation no i don't want you to get any bad dms we need to get

wow wow wow we got one more piece of content to show you dude i don't watch a lot of burnt chrysler content because i'm not a i'm not a you're not mike i'm not a mazicist in that way he can't have a con i mean we all do it to an extent but like i've never seen a guy who cannot have a conversation at every interval without telling the other person he's interviewing about his life every single time yeah it's you know a little bit now and again it's fine you never one like but it's like every fucking interval okay go ahead sorry well it's true stars make it all about themselves in this industry luke we've seen that many you're right uh ronda though upset about this specific

point with MMA fans. The idea that they only love you when you're unbeaten and you're dominating and you're winning, but they instantly hate you when you lose. Or maybe it's because of the way you acted. Hey, here's Ronda talking about. MMA fans and media are the most, what have you

done for us lately crowd of any sport. Like, you look at WWE and they have such a reverence for their legends. And at MMA, it's like the second that you're not on top, you're not shit and you never were shit. Chuck Liddell, when he's on top, oh, my God, he's the best, he's the best,

his second that he loses, oh, Chuck Lidl ain't shit, he never was shit. Rampage Jackson, oh, my God, he's the next, he's the next Mike Tyson, he's so great. Second, he loses, oh, rampaging shit, he never was shit. Yeah. GSP, oh, he loses, he's not shit, he never was shit. And I think the only reason that why M.M.A. fans have their lips so firmly planted at the base of Kabeb's cock is because he retired before he reached his limit. and if he ever if he kept fighting until he reached his limit everybody would be like oh it could be

being shit you never was shit and they're like that with everybody like name some name one person brock bragging shit you never wish it named one past champion that has that that the kind of respect that the current champions do it's it's really sad because i think it encourages people to try and get out while they're peaking and taking all of that equity with them instead of passing it on to whoever's next to take up the mantle. I wanted to retire undefeated because I was so afraid of like, oh, everything

that I accomplished is going to be nothing if I ever lose. So I have to retire and defeat it. So that was shots fired, brought to you by Cuervo. Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that evented tequila. Luke Thomas, does she have a point? Um, no.

You go first then. okay does she have a point in general that mma doesn't love their legends like they do and she's saying in wwe or in other sports uh to some degree i could say that's true but that's not an mma media or fan problem it's kind of just the way ufc promotes yes they got a hall of fame yes there's legends still employed like dc on commentary etc but they're not really about the past they're always about the future and what's next. Always, always, always. And they expand and they grow and look at where they are. Now, I don't always love that. I love comparing things to the past. I love, you know, you, but they don't parade legends around typically on that level. I love

what Jose Aldo got in Brazil when him and his family got to retire for, you know, for real there. There's some moments like that. The recent send-offs to Robbie Lawler, people like that have been great. The other point I object with is she said, we're such a, you know, we're such a community of what have you done for me lately. That's combat sports, Rhonda, because you don't have 162 game seasons here. You have two fights a year if we're lucky with the stars, right? Three fights are great. Kevin Holland, but that's it, right?

So automatically, it's always going to be hypercritical of what you've done for me lately because whatever you've done for me lately is who you are. I know you can have bad nights, but that's all we have to judge you off. This is not a problem of everyone turned on her because she loved. This is a problem because she turned on everybody with the way she handled losing. And I'm not trying to downplay the depression and even near suicide thought she had in the immediacy of that loss because I try to imagine being in her shoes at that time and where her head was and her fame was and all of that. I get it all. She imploded, but I get it all. But when she acts so abrasively and has, you know, I'll fight newness, but only under the most protected ways of I'm only going to talk.

talk to Ramona Shelburne and that's it and F everyone else. Like this is on you. You disappeared. You, you know, this ain't on us. Um, it's disappointing to see this, Luke, because in some ways it's misdirected, but I think if she actually showed that she cares about her MMA legacy and the sport today and showed up and acted like, like, we don't actually need her to come back and fight. What she accomplished will always be in stone what it was. an amazing star and pioneer in every sense of the word. But she's the one that's been in hiding

and been angrily aggressive towards this business. Come back. Act human. And I think it would embrace her. We do love legends in this game. And also maybe talk to your boy, Dana. They should do a little bit more to parade what was. I agree with that.

But that's not everything in this game. The respect you build with the audience, F the media. We're fickle. The respect you build with the audience, that's what should matter. You can invest back in that if you want, but you've got to be there. You've got to try. I think you make some pretty good points. I will say, and I'm sure you agree with this, it is no matter what you want to say in terms of who's responsible for what.

It is very regrettable that Rhonda and a legend of the game and pioneer in many ways and what she did or certainly, you know, whatever you want to say she did is enormously important. chapter in MMA's history and development that the person largely responsible for that can't be celebrated by the MMA community. You might be pointing out, she didn't let herself be, and I understand that. But I'm saying just how fractured and broken it is, it is very regrettable. And I wish it was not this way. For her sake and for MMA's sake, I wish it was not this way. I think he raised some good points, B.C.

I do. The nature of combat sports, I will say MMA fans, I mean, look how fast are turning on Tom Aspinall and others. Like, you know, I understand your point that the limited volume of competition results kind of exacerbates, but culturally, there's like a victim-blaming culture in MMA as well. And, you know, that's part of it. On the other hand, I was there, not when she lost to Holly home, but I remember the aftermath of it. And if you don't, she took that loss very poorly. And then for the Amanda Nunes fight, because people might not remember this, B.C., but for the Amanda Nunes fight, she wouldn't talk to M.A. Media at all, as you

indicated she would only talk to Ramona Shelburne and did you hear Ariel caught some strays in this interview I'm not sure if you heard it PC no she was you know because Bert brings her up brings them up and then she's like you know what was the last time I've gone on his show you know what does that say but she was making a point not just about him but about all of MMA media yeah something to be said for that dude I mean I've kind of you know it's hard to do both interviewing with fighters as well as being critical of them and there you might it's not for the reason people think which is oh, they'll get mad at you. I mean, yes, they will get mad at you,

but it's the manager and them, they'll just decide to stop talking to you. So you have a very difficult balance to strike, which is how do you maintain a professional relationship with an entity when you're very critical of them and they're very sensitive about this? Now, if you're big enough, they kind of just get over it. Many of them do.

Many of them seem to just kind of find a way to live with it. But I can just tell you from personal experience, it is a great source of constant problems. So you kind of have to just pick a lane, honestly. And, you know, everyone picks their own. But I sort of get what she's saying about that. She's like, why am I going to be doing interviews with people who are critical of me? And my answer is, I don't think that's a great response, but that is so typical of how the industry functions.

That's why I say don't worry about the media because half of them are just fickle for the fake of his sake. Yeah, but she combines the two. She doesn't separate. She sees it. She sees them as interconnected. Right. And they're not. and also it's our job to be critical also like embrace your your MMA what you've accomplished

embrace that i don't know duncan on podcaster she didn't throw shab's name in there right no i mean you heard it go after rogan here you know and it's like dude do you remember this too so after she loses and then there is you know holly's competing and ronda came back for the manda dunas fight they weren't allowed to show highlights of her win over ronda now now when i say that I'm not saying I got a memo where they had said that policy. I distinctly recall, if you go back and look at the trailer used to promote the Amanda Nunes fight, there's no footage of that loss that appears. Now they make reference to it and things like that, but they don't actually show her

getting head kicked. It was such a big deal for her. She didn't even want to be exposed to the highlights. And again, I'm sure it's painful. I guess the part I'm trying to make is BC. On the one hand, I do think there is kind of the sport is somewhat abusive to its stars. a way that it shouldn't be and i think we should all we should say that on the other hand she seems to be reacting very negatively to things that definitely have a negative reaction among fighters

generally but her response is even relative to them outsized yeah and i think that's kind of the problem you might say well she gets more of the you know the invective than the other ones yeah she probably does but dude you know i mean i'm sorry bc tell me what i'm about to say is wrong to the audience. You can't believe the level of positive press an MMA fighter has gotten in their lives until you've seen Ronda Rousey Connor, B.C., maybe have gotten, you know, a lot of that too, but like, you know, as a breaking barriers and, you know, changing the face of women's sports. And dude, she got more positive press than I've ever seen an MMA fighter get. And for her to be like, oh, the MMA fans and the media were critical, it's like, I mean, what the fuck you want us to

you got head kicked in Australia after taking an opponent lightly. Yeah. And then we never heard from me again. Literally, never heard of you. Yeah, literally. I'm not saying she owes all these reporters interviews. I'm just saying like. No, she doesn't owe a shit.

But when you go away and you're angry to us about it, you're not going to get good coverage. It just kind of is what it is. It's tied together. All right. We got to imagine talking to Burt Chrysler for an hour and a half. I don't know how that, how did that even happen? Like, that's just like, that's, that podcast is like when you, trust a fart, right? You know what I mean? Like, this is the last time I'm going to do that.

Well, last freaking time, right? He should change the name of it to Dutch oven. Yeah. All right. Hey, speaking of, okay, speaking of nothing, speaking of the time, right? I earn these tattoos. I want you to know that. Now is a good time to remember the story where tequila's story truly began because the 1795 folks, Cuervo invented tequila. And since then, all Cuervo was done is stayed true to its roots. Same family. Same. Same. land. Same passion. 230 years later, Quervo's still right here, where you need them in every poor and every margarita in every celebration. So enjoy the tequila that started at all, Quervo. The tequila that invented tequila, proximo quervo.com, please drink responsibly. And Luke, maybe it's

time we tell the people for real that we're not too far away from MSG fight week Thursday of that week coming up. What is that, November 13th? I think that's right. 11 a.m. Eastern live from Metal Lark in Manhattan, LTVC, and Oscar Willis of MacLive fame hitting you up the middle with a pregame preview brought to you by Cuervo. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, he is definitely HIV positive. I want to be very clear about that. Let's go. All right. That's what I'm talking about. Thank you very much. Okay. Let's get into the next topic. Topic number four. Hey, PFL, can you hold on? on to your best assets here, please, Larissa Pacheco, who famously beat Kayla Harrison in their

trilogy and is a two-time PFL tournament champion, although she hasn't fought since that lost to Chris Cyborg and that big pay-per-view card. According to Pacheco, the PFL has released her from her contract this week, despite already having a fight booked against Julia Budd. Why did PFL do this? and does it even make sense, LT, because Larissa has now gone on social media and outright begged Dana White for a job and a return to the UFC where she's been before. The quote here from Pacheco is, PFL reached out to me a month ago.

They were going to send me a date, possibly against Julia Budd. So we wanted, we waited, and then they were no longer interested in doing another fight and keeping the division going and that they were releasing me. The reason they gave me was that there were no other fighters left. It was just me, Sarah Collins, who's fighting Cyborg now, who's 6 and O in Cyborg. I was supposed to fight Julia one more time. Cyborg would fight that girl. She'd defend her title, and then I'd have the chance for my rematch afterwards, obviously, against Cyborg.

She says, PFL told Cyborg, it was her last fight was against me. She'd retire early that she had no interest in fighting me again. So I said, all right, that's what happened. They released me, even though I still had two fights left on my contract. LT is it as simple is they don't want to employ that division anymore because she's one of the you could argue that she's one of like the seven best women in this on this planet in this sport I mean she's really what does it do for your bottom line PFL you look at what they're doing dude they keep I'm not against it I support it but they basically keep trying to simplify like PFL came out with this thing like oh from matchmakers and promoters are unfair we're going to take that out of it. And there's so many fighters who get, who are underserved based on one circumstance or the other. We're going to be the antidote to that. And that is fun for a while.

But at some point, you realize you're supporting losing causes and that these have to be shed because, yes, it differentiates your product. But the other people in the space don't use it because it ultimately also doesn't work. Or maybe they can make it work for reasons that other entities cannot. Dude, if you're trying to make your product as lean and. mean and sellable as possible if you want it to actually grow a fan base and they know they've got new leadership there at pfl and they're again trying to simplify the product and make it more accessible and all of these kinds of efforts which i generally support why on earth would you float a division where cyborg has one left and after that what do you have you have you have nothing

you have to make very very very tough choices if you're the pfl i believe about what kinds of parts of our, what is our product going to be? And to what extent should that be informed by what we can sell as the most dynamic parts of MMA to the broader audience? Because everything they've done, it's not like they haven't put on good fights, B, C, they have. It's not like they haven't developed good fighters, they have. It's not like they haven't done interesting things they have.

But they are this far into their run and they have no domestic fan base. And they've got one year left on ESPN that will happen outside of the UFC Halo. Which, by the way, if the UFC Halo goes, to what extent will ESPN cover MMA at all? We simply do not know the answer to that, but I suspect if your BFL, you might be a little bit worried about it, you need to make very careful decisions. I am sorry, I really am, that Pacheco got hung out to dry. It sucks that they told her one thing and then, you know, that they pull out the rug from underneath her. I don't wish it upon her. She has value for UFC.

But I also just think people need to be somewhat realistic about PFL, not so much in the way that they handled. it per se bc but like if they're going to get rid of this division and they've got one left with cyborg why on earth would they retain her services and honestly getting rid of the division in a world where cyborg is no longer there and won't fight pacheco it makes all the sense in the world to me it's just unfortunate that someone this good got left in this position and i'm obviously unhappy about that yeah so pacheco's 32 years old she had a 10-fight win streak between her loss to kela harrison in their second fight and the loss to chris cybor in her most recent fight winning two tournament titles in between she fought at lightweight and featherweight

and she did have a two fight ufc run back when she was 21 years old lost both fights by stoppage a submission loss to jessica androj in 2014 and then a tk o loss in the second round to germane to randomie so that's obviously high level competition but she's beaten some big names on the regional level as well that are in the ufc today but here's the issue luke now should be should be the time that UFC does one of two things in my opinion either brings back the featherweight division for women why because there's crazy depth no because i don't know how realistic it is for kail harrison to keep making 35 we talk about this all the time and you have her career rival who she's fought three times and lost and suffered that huge upset lost to who's also really good and one of

the best in the world or you do the women's heavyweight bit however you want to do it i feel like you have to create space because if they have no interest in it and I'm not saying it's a overly financially huge decision to make meaning as much as I would be interested in Kayla versus Pacheco 4 would mainstream MMA fans I'm not sure um Luke is there is there a chance she has nowhere to go and is that why the video where she was essentially begging Dana was the way it went I'm not sure I'm guessing I'm not sure okay uh long on Luke reminding me that she was also on the ultimate fighter and got T-K-Oed by Macy

Chezon back in the day. She's come around as a fighter, but I mean, look, dude, look, do you believe Kayla can we keep making 35 or you don't care? Where are we at? I mean, I cannot imagine she's got many more of those left in her. It takes, it's

shortening her fucking life. I would say three, what seems impossible, two, maybe. You think Cyborg ever fights in the UFC again? No. Okay. No. Okay. Well, we do have Amanda coming back. Pacheco could be a name, but I don't know if she can make $1.35. That's probably the conversation to have.

Let's close here, though, with topic number five. And in honor of Halloween tonight, Tuky's Night, okay? Let's talk some scary stuff. Let's talk what's scary inside mixed martial arts. Luke, we want to know on your list who are the top five scariest punchers in MMA or UFC history. Okay. Now, Long Island, do you have a graphic for this? Yeah, do you want me to show it at the beginning or wait to you name of them?

No, I do it now. Just show it up and I'll just, I'll walk you through. All right, here are mine. Number five, y'all going to, this is a deep cut, but we're talking about like scary punchers, not best fighters, just scary punchers. Number five, Drew McFedries was just absolutely hitting people's off switches in the 20, in the 2000s and early 2010s. I mean, in a frightening and devastating puncher, limited fighter, but devastating. Need I say more, B.C. at number four, the H-bomb, Dan Henderson, please. I mean, you could put him higher on the list, but he's got to be on there. Anthony Rumble Johnson sent people to the shadow realm in ways that was absolutely terrifying. I mean, the Glover to share a K-O-B-C where he sent his teeth flying and one,

and Glover had a good chin for a while, but not after this fight. Shane Carwin, if you've never seen him send Christian Wellish's mouthpiece into fucking orbit. Go take a look at that one. Dude, he ruined Frank Mirr brutally too. Yes, a terrifying puncher. I mean, if he connected at all, it was curtains for you and maybe the scariest of them all, BC, here in honor of Halloween, Francis fucking Angano, the predator himself. Well, I mean, BC, just the, there are many okayos you could pick, but the Overeem K.O. was one of those times. where you're like, I don't know if I just saw a man murdered on live

television. In MMA history, to this day, it's the most brutally ridiculous, violent. And he got a title shot a month later off of that. I know. Long Island, after you see this list and BC's list, let's go over some names that we missed, okay? Let's do that. I got you. I'm going to put up a poll too and have the fans vote on who has the better rules. Great, great idea. I'd love to see this. All right. Well, I want to make sure

we had no duplicates. So I was, I was digging a little deeper, but I think my list holds up to yours when we're talking about scary shit. Number five, how about that featherweight freight train, Josh Emmett? Don't know about that man's power? See the Bryce Mitchell fight and then talk to me later, okay? Somebody help

Bryce fix his nose, right? Number four, a born finisher in kickboxing or MMA, the two division, maybe too soon to be three division champion. Alex Poetan Paheda. He does have the one touch sleep power. The guy does. When he puts that left hook on your chin, it's over. Obviously, you

kick as well. We had to put Chuck Liddell in here, right? I mean, nobody, maybe outside of Dan Hendo, who became known at the tail end of his career as just the guy who would cock that H-bomb right hand out there and threaten you with it. That's how Liddell kind of fought his whole career. You knew what was coming and that one punch could separate you from your senses. I love the Bob-a-Loo stoppage. Obviously, the Tito Ortiz knockout. Look, number two, Melvin Man Hoove could kill a man inside of there, maybe even a horse, right? That guy in his absolute proper even when he was old you know you could you could on a on a wrong night walk into sleep and uh he was known for that he lived and died by it across a couple disciplines in mixed martial

arts and how about number one mark punt i mean i love when you're at a point in your career pre lawsuit of course where you're like man i'm just going to get fat and just live on my chin in my right hand this is heavyweight m mb a if you haven't seen the first fight with uh big foot sylva it could change your life right now or make you never watch sport again what a bloodbath all five of these gentlemen right here could do a little bit what I like to call the three

Zs on that bitch right there okay put you all to sleep because I'm too cheesy did you see rap for the first time in 38 years has no song in the billboard top 40 about time

I think rap has finally jumped the shark okay Here's who we missed for sure. We missed Robbie Lawler. For sure, we missed him. Yeah, he's rude. The guy's freaking ruthless. We missed Semtex Daily, another guy with, again, we're not just talking about guys

who are good strikers, right? Scary punchers, Long Island. Okay. How about Stepe? How about the damn fireman? I was going to say Derek Lewis. Oh, whoa. You guys no sold that.

No soul. Yeah, because no, Steve A, wouldn't. He's too well-rounded to be considered a devastating puncher. also not a devastating puncher no i was trying to think a little more outside the box so i went lower weight classes and women how about cyborg i mean come on yes on cyborg early cyborg yeah yeah yes on it jessica androge is probably one of the only women is a good puncher john linnaker hands of stone john yeah great john dodson also had some serious pop isn't there a guy that owns that owns the ufc record for knockout i think it's derrick lewis yeah it might be or

doesn't matt brown weirdly own the record or something but he's got yeah he's got like elbow kos and you know i was talking about derrick lewis man that guy's got one punch touch right there who else uh i'm looking at the comments right now people are saying espinal i feel like it's too early i mean ashton's more combo right yeah i mean he's he's speed and he's obviously a great puncher but it's the jury you have to have several where you just like just lay them out flat in one go would you put fador in that category no not even old fador no okay no he's not a puncher like that no okay i'm trying to think who else we're missing here john linnaker is the perfect sort of you know emma embodies that too but like that's john linnaker should have been in

my top five man because that you know for the second half of his career that's all you knew from him that's all he was there to do yes linnaker is a great call i mean obviously he's not you have seen anymore but he did fight there, especially for the smaller guys as well. Would you put Ilya Tupori in there? He's a pretty devastating puncher. Yeah, he's getting there, dude. He's freaking getting me. You know what I mean?

I still don't think of him like that, but the results are the way they are, right? Like, you know, the thing is you can kind of say, well, the Volk one was whatever it was and Charles is getting kind of old. And, you know, Max has been through it, but like no one had ever done that to Max, and he fucking did it. You know, it's like, oh, damn, dude, Shane Carwin just had it. People have no clue. Shane Carwin was terrifying.

No bits, no bits. Poor Shab having to spar with that guy. Seriously, straight up. I'm dead serious. I could not, that's torture. I would not. Lord. Could you every every, and multiple times a week at that?

Dude, that is unfair. That's unfair to ask of a person. Do you put Rampage in this in his prime? He was a good puncher. He was a good boxer, but he wasn't like a devastating puncher in that way. Okay. No. Vitor Belfour had fast hands.

but not exactly like a bomb kind of rumble johnson was the 205 oh rumble johnson dude rumble i had him in my list i had him in my list he was oh you did yes yes he was yeah there's my list i mean you got to have them on there um but i just feel like there's some deep cuts we're missing some guys who were limited fighters but who could fucking punch you know i love those type of guys reminds me a randall bailey in boxing remember that dude the end of his career just went to south korea and was just knocking dudes flat julian jackson was i think my all-time favorite heart puncher. He was crushing people. It was insane. Good stuff. Good stuff right there. All right. Let's transition here. I wanted you guys to know that this podcast is sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of UFC. And you know the drill. You'll be sharing those taked down highlights with your boys. And you need a wireless provider that's going to keep you close to the action to make sure those get through. With Total Wireless, you're covered by the Verizon 5G network. You don't have to worry about your connection being caoed at the big. moments. And while we don't normally say, hey, you know who's got my back? My wireless provider,

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please see that website for more details where'd you shoplift those glasses from yeah party city on that ass okay that's what i'm talking about all right what are what are what are you all doing for uh Halloween tonight uh my kids are going to a Halloween party they're seniors in high school so that they got you know they'll have the costume on and uh at first i was like hey wife let's go out to eat so we don't have to give out candy but then she you know talked to me back into having good will for my community and the young kids and so we're going to probably uh uh you know make

dinner and then give out candy like like we should right luke you know we're we're civic providers go see a movie and turn on the sprinklers well i wanted to see the movie but it's like literally all Halloween gore and you know lady don't get down like that was all right all right i can't say what i want to say uh Luke we got another segment here before we close with the fans it's the second time this has ever happened, okay? No one really likes putting another third person in the marriage bed, but in this case, we'll make a pass.

This one's called Arrangeoix-tois, baby. Did you hear that guy? Yes, I heard that stupid as shit. Here's how it works. I'm going to present, present Luke with eight different categories and three answers. He has to rate them all from best to worst. or I'll let you know if that changes at all.

Luke, topic number one here, retroactive death pardons. Let's say you get the sickle, you get to decide who to bring back, rank them in order from best to worst, John F. Kennedy, Sean Taylor of Redskins fame, or Chris Farley? The answer is Sean Taylor, and I'll tell you why.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Can you guys double check this? I believe Sean Taylor was 24 when he was killed. he was he was like insanely young and had his life he was fucking murdered you know let's let's i mean obviously john fennedy was fucking murder too but chris farley not so much so chris farley's going to go last whoa well i like well i like chris farley more um so wait the one you're bringing back first is sean taylor sean taylor number one okay or i should say number 21 but yes he'd be first on this list um man fuck the can't

Yeah, let's bring back Farley. Let's bring back Farley number two. And then we'll, you know, we'll JFK bringing up the rear. Okay. There we go. Our FK's uncle. He's back. Luke, there you go. All right. topic number two here on Arrangeotte, Arrangee, arrange these from best to worse of UFC action fight classics. The 2015 Daniel Kormier, Alexander Gustafson, light heavyweight title about the 2020, all-female, all-banger in the first meeting between Wei Lee and, Yawanna, not for a title. And 2018, the first meeting between Dustin Porre and Justin Gachie at Lightway. Rank these from Best to Worst, Liz. Wow, that's a tough one. These are all phenomenal fights. And you must explain your answer, sir.

Yeah, okay. So I'm going to go B. Wiley and Yowna, number one. Look, she had a growth on her face and her head. the best women's fight i've ever seen i think you have to put that above very very good men's fights but you know um okay so i'm going to go with that one number one now this is where it gets dicey i feel like most people would say parier gaichi and i think if you've got that as number two i can't really argue with it because what i'm going to say is from a sentimental perspective this is

what the cormier gustafson is maybe my favorite cornea fight and not because he well he does win but um dude he got pushed he got pushed big time and that fight nearly got away from him a couple of times and he had to really show his quality poorier had to do that against gachy too and it was more blood and guts i think honestly rather than you know i think what i liked about Cormier and Gustafsson, that was for a title, you know, the quality was really, really high, whereas the quality between Gaci and Poirier was also very high, but a little bit more just bite down and go. Yeah.

And that, again, that's for some people, that's going to make it higher in the rankings. I still appreciate that. But I'm always going to appreciate some of the more refined values that you can find in the crucible of a tough challenge that you saw with Cormier and Gustafsson. So I'll go that, too, and then the last. So Luke goes BAC is his order there on number two. Blood alcohol content, which is going to be high in mine tonight. Let's go to number three.

We're talking about second-tier Arnold Schwarzenegger movies from best to worst. True Lies with Jamie Lee Curtis. Total Recall, one of my favorites. And the Danny DeVito classic Twins. So we ain't getting Commando, Predator, Raw Deal. Predator is not second-tier. predator is first tier right that's why i just said we ain't getting those those are all first tier ones for me let me ask the question where would you put schwartzenegger's running man it's it's one it's become

one of my least favorites of his prime action even though it's fun over the top like it's great it's just my least favorite compared to raw deal commando predator t2 uh you know in that stretch where it was like all action bangers my kids love it they're excited about the remake coming out I'm not excited about the remake All right, put it up again I read the book too The book is very different Even from the Schwarzenegger one

So okay All right Second Tier Arnold movies Okay Because of how weird it was You've got to go total recall As your first choice Yes

I mean three tittyes You don't see that very often Not that often But still trying to find that bar One day in Mars Luke You know what I'm saying? all right all right so that's number one um oh true lies was great but it was really commercial though at the same time and it was also wild racist um yeah let's go twins twins is so great when they have to

explain to dania devedo yes this is your brother and in utero he got all of the gifts and you got all the left over shit one of my favorite fucking scenes yeah so i'm going to go bca bc a bc all right all right that's the l t choice on ranchoile let's go to number four you know emm and n m and candies on Halloween are big Luke and they got so many spinoff varieties rank these in order of your preference of greatness caramel peanut butter and pretzel so this is an easy one to answer because it's not like I don't love a chocolate covered pretzel but how could any human being think that that is on par with like a normal Eminem it's like double chocolate versus is shoving in, fucking dried out carbs?

Dude, I love the pretzel ones. I'm going to say that. By the way, are you, are you, no, not number one. No, no, no, no. Peanut butter is the best flavor they ever created. But are you, when it comes to the two basic ones, milk chocolate and peanut, which one do you prefer? Milk chocolate, 10 times out of 10.

All right, I'm with you on that. How are you ranking these? Can we throw them back up? Yeah. So peanut M&Ms, again, it's like, do I want a peanut that's got chocolate on it? Sure, but I prefer the milk chocolate all the way through. so peanut butter is of these ones the easiest call i mean yes this far no it's in the red bag the red bag the red bag is like red bag is fucking deadly bro yeah uh caramel i'll go second carmel depending on how

one pronounces it and then pretzels you know these are things i shit at joseph abank it's not that important to me no i agree completely with your rankings on this one let's go to our fifth one worst you're going to rank these from worst to best worst intrusive procedures to endure prostate check amtrak delays or see the second carla asparza rosenama unis i mean dude here is how bad amtrak delays are it's like i i would take having i take having a doctor shove his digits into my rear end to medically evaluate my prostate over a fucking Amtrak delay. I don't know how you can say that out loud. That would be number one on my list.

The worst thing that could happen to you in your life. I've never had a prostate check. Have you had one? Of a mastectomy with a Vietnam vet who said. Oh, right. Now, I've had a, I've not had a prostate check. Dude, you've got three days and you feel really bad about yourself. Do you feel like sexually violated?

Yes. Whereas the colonoscopy, you feel great. It's like, hey, let's wish. The colonoscopy is nothing. You wake up with the best nap you've ever had in your life. It's absolutely nothing. Here's what you are failing to appreciate. Okay.

Put this back up one more time, the choices. Yeah, why we're taking this down? Here we are. Okay. Amtrak delays, the problem, B.C. Is that they last so fucking long. That's the problem here. You can say pound for pound is a prostate check.

worse in every way like per like on a per minute basis what could be worse you know what i'm saying it's just straight up it's straight up prison torture but the time you have to spend if you go for i dude i've been going to new york for 15 fucking years do you know how much time in my life i have lost yeah you should have moved there a decade ago right it's too fucking expensive it's too fucking expensive i don't want to just give all my money to fucking seven grand in rent to go live in jersey city fuck that dude i don't want to do that well that's true after being there look that's true yeah exactly so dude i'm gonna go and i forget the third one was uh what was the third one as uh carlo's i mean as bad as that was it only lasts for 30 minutes call it a day who gives a shit you know okay here we go there we go

uh number six we're going to rank from best to worst best morning combat studios and to separate these by eras. The first one I'm going to say is both the bomb shelter and orchids of combat, which is the first era of MK. Number two is the studio we designed ourselves with books, vinyl, and the RSD couch right in there. And number three is where we're at these days in Manhattan on Mondays at Meadowlark. So this will, I mean, here's the thing. Each one's got a little something to it. The bomb shelter, Orchids of Combat were the raw early fun days. Meadowlark where we are now absolutely the most consistent highest level production work you know what i mean we don't have to hear do you remember how consistently the fans used to complain quite rightly about the

audio you know and how what a fucking nut you just don't hear that anymore me i mean nothing is perfect but like relative to how it was middle lark has completely erased that uh and then of course you know everyone's going to be partial to the one where we won the award in so i'm probably going to go something like that. I'm probably going to go we had too much freedom with A and B. The problem with B is the first B's the best. The problem was we

weren't there a lot. If you remember at the peak of that studio, we were only going there like once a month and a half, two months. Whereas A we were there every single week. It's true. I was in the studio multiple days a week and I can just say that was the best studio.

The B? Yeah. Okay. I used to sleep on that couch, take naps on that couch. I mean, RSD, let's go. I can't believe a Long Island dirtbag would do something like that. Yeah, the answer here is BAC. I think that's right. I would say that the improvement in the quality at C makes it a little close to A, but the rawness what we had.

Because, I mean, the thing is, the thing with Metal Arc is, as good as the studios are and they're phenomenal, we have to share them. They're not ours. Whereas with the bomb shelter and the second one, we basically had to do, we could do whatever we want with it. And that's just not the situation. I'm surprised no one's defecated inside that studio.

Not for a lack of effort. Okay. All right. Let's go to number seven here. Best to worst. MMA resumes slash legacies. Dustin Porreier, Kamaru Usman, T.J. Dillishaw, who has the best to worst combination of resume and legacy? You're asking the wrong guy because the answer for number one, best is clearly Kamaru, right?

Clearly, Camor. Because you're down for pound king. What are you? Yeah, and I mean, he's the second. He's the second best welterweight of all time behind St. Pierre, and that's quite an achievement. So it's definitely Camaro. Now, after that, you have to ask yourself a question.

How do you feel about someone who didn't have a full weight class title? Got pretty close, but didn't have a full weight class title, versus somebody who did have a weight class title, but then pop for PEDs and to what extent you evaluate that? I will tell you, I don't really give a shit about that. for reasons I articulated a gazillion times. I mean, it's relevant, but I don't care about it so much. I would go, I mean, the thing is, dude, honestly,

I feel like the current fan base just loves Poirier. That's a good, that's a good legacy and resume to have. It's a great one. Honestly, be better people than many champions have. So here's the problem, dude. The resume for Dillishaw is stronger, I feel like, because of the high-end achievement he had. but the legacy of Porreier might honestly be much better than Dilla Shaw's four

because he beat a bunch of really fucking good guys and you know it doesn't have any of the PED stuff following him so I might go BAC even though I kind of feel like it's BCA you know interesting I wondered if you were going to go A first even though obviously he wasn't a champion compared to the two but like Camaro does not he is not beloved or does he receive the respect that his accomplishments say he should that's true but dude for anyone who's literate it's not even a slight to parier dude i'm not even trying

to be insulting in any way at all but like you got to give kumaru the credit he deserves he's the he was the best fighter in the world yeah he was the best he was fucking very good in his prime you know all right our final one on orange artois these are best to worst l t's preferred genie bottle wish you only get one wish with the bottle you can get eight hours of sleep for night moving forward. You can have normal bowel movements moving forward, or you can trade hogs with Rocco. Rocco So Freddy. Is he the one that had the curve joint? No, that's not Jovi-Dol. So that I would absolutely be a no. These are all tempting. Definitely going to throw out normal bowel movements because it would just give me less things to talk about. So that's not one that I want.

You would be a much better house guest if you had that, right? Yeah, but I don't care about being a good house guest. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want to have good house guest or good stories. I'll take good stories every time, right? Okay, okay. Sorry, Joseph A. Bank. Now, the trading hogs with Rocco, I don't know, like, that's definitely going to be a fun, a fun little thing. However, I'd say, you know, I'm going to go out on a limb and say my wife's probably pretty satisfied for the most part for, you know. Okay. I don't know if we needed that breakdown. I'm just saying, I'm just saying it's not like a thing that, oh, I'm desperate for, but I am desperate for the eight hours of sleep you see that would be the ultimate fucking life hack

i want the eight hours so i'm going to go a is number one we'll put c number two and then normal bowel movements you can just take that off the list completely i don't get me shit about that i mean long outlook could you imagine a well-slept happy luke thomas every episode can you imagine i can't even imagine it he's like i literally can't conceive of you as a well-slept person There it is. That was the Orange Antois right there. We're going to close with our fan segments. Of course, we offer the email address for you to contact the show of Morningcombat at gmail.com for your fan subs, for your dead wrongs.

Hey, you want to complain. You want to accuse us of something. There's your opportunity. Even up to it including showing your privates to Mikey. So it's available to you at Morningcombat at Gmail.com. Let's go with dead wrongs up first. We don't always get it right. But at least we have the guts to stand up to the truth.

you have a receipt and you got some balls. This one's called Dead Wrong. Dead Wrong. Let's see who took the L. Antonio writes, and he says, Good night from Portugal. I was just listening to the 321 post-fight recap show. And at one hour, 18 minutes, and 40 seconds, Brian is dead wrong. Aspinall submitted Volkov with a straight arm bar.

Yes. Not a, as BC said, chicken wing or America. Kana. So, yeah, so the reason why you're halfway, I know why you said that is because he didn't submit it with it, what's going to call it Jujicatami, where the traditional Ronda arm bar where it's between your legs. He did it where he was kind of diagonal, not side control, but diagonal. And then he straightens the arm out and then does it where he's kind of bending it with his own arms in that way. So it's a different kind of arm bar. So I know why you said that, but technically you're right. He's right. I'll take that out. I was technically wrong. I couldn't think of which arm. it was on that point arm bar but no along out look is reporting by the way that everybody has made wait for ufc warehouse okay all right also a quick update here luke long out on luke reporting that 75% of the chat has said they like your five scarier punchers better than not yeah unfortunately though i went first so bc could only pick what was available outside of what i picked but i do feel like my list is good. Yes. Yeah, there you go. Our second dead wrong comes to us from Christopher,

who says, hey, I'm a long time listener here. First time submission for dead wrong on the October 6th episode reviewing UFC 320 at one hour and five minutes. BC said Yeri had now improved to eight and oh against everyone in the UFC not named Alex Paheda. You are dead wrong. Yeri has eight fights in the UFC and is six in O in the UFC when not facing Poetton. This seems like something very easy to review if one is not stuffing his face with gas station hot dogs and looking like the inverse of a ladies night version of Carlos Oldberg. If I could suggest an excuse, BC, just say your eye was looking away from the fact, from that fact on your timeline like your Vienna, Janjordoba, and you confuse this, the six for an eight. I do have bad eyesight. but hey bc next time let's be more focused on the show prep uh than keeping track of the

instagram followers for the number nine and eleven ranked straw weights wow in the apex co main event keep coming with low with bits every show sorry not loads as they make my i got as they make my my day listening to see i can't read but yeah i'll take the l from christopher right there oh for two this week lou wow all right our third one comes from joll hey luke and bc long time fan, long time listener, also a nerdy lawyer here. Luke, you're dead wrong when you say, quote, accumulative damage. The correct word is cumulative, not a cumulative. Cumulative equals damage that builds up by successive additions. Dictory.com describes cumulative as increasing by successive additions formed by acute accumulation. That is what happens when steady jabs,

body shots and calf kicks out up until the opponent breaks down. But accumulative with an A is a real word, but far less common. It just means tending to accumulate. Merriam Webster lists cumulative as the standard word for something resulting for many additions, while accumulative is listed as a secondary option. Style guides consistently note that cumulative is the correct choice in this context. In short, a fighter wins by cumulative damage, not accumulative damage. Don't feel bad, Luke.

You've only been making this mistake consistently for years, displaying your ignorance on possibly thousands of occasions, consider it a true masterclass in cumulative error, respectfully, and with love for the show, Joel. Wow. Why don't you cumulatively put some licks on my balls? How about that? So, look, he's saying that you're not completely wrong.

Yeah, but I'm not, like, the way it works in this kind of world where, like, what's the most. correct option and it sounds like what he's saying is the most correct option so okay that's wild that i guess i have to take that out wow we had a lot of else today this one's from andrew during have you seen the shit on monday bc showed the video of the guy putting the chicken roller on the hot dogs bun in 7-11 with chili and cheese he said it was 7-11 over and over again you would think that someone who has eaten so many gas station hot dogs in his life would know what 7-11 looks like guess black liver affects the brain too. This was clearly a quick trip, is the name of the store down south,

probably the Atlanta area. Luke should have known better. There's like five of them within 10 miles of the big chicken. Okay, you know what I think about Atlanta? I don't. Fuck Atlanta. There you go. Oh, and there's Chipotle sauce is fantastic. That's Andrew Lay giving Luke a second, a second L. Number five comes from Luke H. and Kevin. Luke H. writes, greetings from the Welsh Valley's LTNBC on Friday the 17th at 37 minutes LT was recanting a list of Kevin Holland's fights where he brought up 185. LT's aim was to compare Holland's success at 170 versus his failures of a lack of effort at 85. And the full list at 85, LT states Jack Delamadalina as one of these fights where Holland was drummed out by a heavier guy. LT I've added evidence

of this fight, which was on September 16th, 2003, at 113. 70 that's well to weight not only that about was a split decision i would suggest you should reduce your your consumption of carbonated caffeinated brain rot and instead look to improve your memory retention by reading high level i don't i i have to go back and listen i've never internalized that fight as a as a middleweight fight but more there was a turning point after it um but i never i've never ever thought jdm was a middle weight. So it depends on how I articulated it. I'll be grudgingly accept this L. Yeah, you lose three to two on today's L's. He closes by saying

that you should read high level publications such as the PhD thesis of Dr. Mike Israel. Isretel. Isretel, yeah. With love from the valleys, a similarly washed dad, it's Luke H. So Luke took a lot of L's there. Including my. Mike Isratel, BC is a wildly successful or was anyway. Kind of a proprietor of fitness content. Is he a grifter on the Moneyberg level? No, no, but someone read his PhD and then audited it,

and it's like the worst PhD you've ever seen in thesis in your fucking life. All right. As worst as these face tattoos, Luke? It's the equivalent. Okay. The PhD equivalent. Our final segment is called The Opportunity where you can put Saul's wife in one of our t-shirts or send us your artwork. This one's called Fan Submissions

You've got mail Viewers All righty Our first fan sub comes from Kyle Who says huge fan here Listening since 2020 Every single show Just sat for 18 hours across two days

For this tattoo piece Holy shit It's not fully finished The gaps will be filled in with white and blue But I needed a few weeks break Rate it please from 1 to 10 again i wouldn't want this tattoo not that i have anything negative to say about it it's just not for me uh but in terms of just pure raw tattooing that is fantastic it's black and gray but then you got

these really bold lightning and blue eyes as you can see in the one on the bottom um i don't know how that squares with the kind of a pacific islander tattooing on the right leg but again if we're just evaluating the left bc i mean tattooing basically basically doesn't get much better. That is very, very, very high-quality work. Well done there, Kyle. I'll give it a eight out of ten, Luke, okay? All right.

Our second fan sub comes from Gerard, who says the main card minute's sighting while seeing cannibal corpse with municipal waste at the Huntington, Paramount, and Long Island got a picture of this sticker in the bathroom. I watched this show. Look at that. I haven't missed one in four years.

years thanks for all the good work long out look you got to fess up was that you at i i love everything about this because i've put up so many of these fucking stickers all over the not the world but you know everywhere especially in huntington and yes the paramount men's bathroom is littered with these stickers shout out gerard he saw a fucking cannibal corpse the same weekend i saw ever clear too so that's funny look do you like the band municipal waste that gerard saw uh not a not a not a they're not for Okay. Do they do Viking Rose or not? Not that I'm aware of But okay

Who knows? Thank you, Gerard, for sending it in. We also heard from Jonas this week Who has a video All right, enough of this conversation We should watch porn Yeah, that's the show Dude, I had to go hat and hand back to Comcast Did I tell you this?

With your gross search history And be like, can you fix this please? It's like, guys, I know that this is really the kind of porn searching that really makes you question your own morality. But, no, I'm serious. I had to go fucking back to them, Ro, because the Verizon thing, I just don't know what to do. Like a bitch. Yeah.

That's what you get for shopping around. You should stay loyal. Yeah, listen, I'm a loyal Verizon customer for my cell phone. They're great. I love them. But I got to get, I need some extra help. I'll just put it that way. Okay, okay.

Our final fan submission comes from a man named John who says, I was trying to talk MMA, but I know what was really on Luke's mind. Let's see this. Okay. Mechanics on the paintbrush, the Americana, were real bad, which is why it didn't work. Because if the elbow comes up, there's nothing really torquing it. It has to, if the elbow comes up, there's nothing really torquing it. It has to come.

Really torquing it. It has to come. It has to come. It has to come. All right. That's probably a. also accurate thank you uh what's this uh this is also from john who puts yeah yeah that is uh that is what we do here unfortunately on mondays there so check out my shit on mondays thank you

thank you very much uh that's it that's all we got for fan subs you can reach back out to us at morning combat at gmail dot com and we'll take your submissions for next week thank you very much uh november 13th is a, I believe a Wednesday will be hitting you with UFC 32 Pre-game preview. Don't forget that. Thursday. Wild Willis joining us. What was that, Long Island?

It's a Thursday. It's a Thursday we'll be there. Yeah, November 13th. You said Thursday earlier too. Oh, then I think that's November 13th. Yeah, yeah, that's a Thursday. My bad. 11 a.m., November 13th, set your watch by it.

Finally, this is your last chance to get our October exclusives over at morningcombat. Yeah, we're talking about Superwash dads. We're talking about this great Halloween crossover. here of frank and luke and donkula get a sign poster get the t-shirt it's leaving our website you'll never see it again unless it's on one of your significant others also mix and match colors because you can go to our evergreen section there's probably some shirts and mugs and baby bibs in there that you didn't even know we had i probably don't even know we have it we may sell mk mk rubbers i have no idea do we mk con we sold mk we're just sold out right now we normally have all right because we

we definitely got that m k jerkins here okay i threw mine away why look it's you could use it i mean there's a use for it right you know what i wasn't it was just sitting on my on my uh sink i was you know long island luke and i get the feeling that you know whatever you get as a gift from fans of this show goes just right in the garbage well i i've literally got the dime bag here like what did we talking about show my full screen long i was talking about that M.K. Jerkins. That's a keepsake for life. Dude, that was from Rich Dunkel fuck.

Oh, yeah. I remember that guy. That's from, I mean, why am I got to keep that? That's not. That's a fair point. That's a, that's not a gift from the audience. That's a, you see, look at me, look at you fucking slandering me falsely in front of the audience. I keep everything that I get from the audience. Notice, it wasn't your, it

wasn't your co-host who said that. It was too cheesy. Yeah, too cheesy needs to go to two sleep, motherfucker. Uh, we, we thank you for watching this program. Uh, are you going to do a live show, Luke, this weekend? They can follow your social. Can you imagine a bigger waste of life than doing that right now? Uh, let's talk for the final time. Now feels like a good segue. I'll be live for the full card tomorrow for PM Easter. Dude. Also, guys, how can you justify that to your girlfriend? I'm being dead serious. There, no, she's working. We're good. Uh, also new prop quiz dropping in 25 minutes. We got the much anticipated matchup, Aaron, Ronstead are taking on Ben the Bain Davis. Oh, I bet Ben gets smoked. No, it's actually like a really good matchup all the way through. So definitely too.

Okay. And then the winner faces the winner of another matchup. And then the winner faces me for like Slito's entire savings account, right? Yeah. So the, so winner of this episode will fit winner of Danny Seguera versus Jose Young's winner of that will get $100. Then they face BC for $20 championship matchup, you know, not a brand. Wait, wait. How was the championship?

like this is like a super champion because it's a one off matchup whereas the bracket you got to win twenty dollars for this yeah you got to win three matchups to win a hundred one to win 20 makes sense to me makes sense right we're not rich shout out slito and eli steel for both hey either way you know what i'm saying thank you slito thank you so much all right uh l t anything you want to say as you head out to be a hashtag girl dad on the streets of dc i'm gonna make the I'm going to make the Hawaiian I'm going to say Halloween rum punch I'm going to make that this afternoon

and then I'm going to try to be a good dad we'll see how that goes All comments made today We're in We're made by Too cheesy So deal with it

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