MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Holiday Mailbag: McGregor-Chandler | Fantasy Matchmaking | Physical Altercations

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell have you covered with a Holiday Mailbag as you enjoy the fourth of July. The guys discuss TUF: Mcgregor vs.Chandler, Create their greatest concert and discuss the last time they were in a physical altercation. You won't want to miss this mailbag. (4:00) - McGregor vs. Chandler (7:13) - Palate Cleansing of Combat Sports (10:00) - Ilia Topuria vs. Aljamain Sterling (15:30) - Documentaries (20:40) - Tatiana Suarez vs. Erin Blanchfield (23:00) - Dream Vacation (26:40) - Spence-Crawford: Future of Boxing (30:30) - Alexander Volkanovski vs. Islam Makhachev (32:00) - Shavkat Rakhmonov vs. Leon Edwards (35:20) - Tai Tuivasa (36:15) - Bantamweight (39:00) - Fantasy Boxing Middleweight Tournament (42:42) - Lucky Items (46:15) - Conor McGregor (50:00) - Greatest Concert of all time (57:00) - Physical Altercations Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. Oh, yeah, you hear that? Well, you told me. There's not a day that goes by I don't look like shit.

You're just going to talk during my intro, Luke. Okay. I thought we said I was hosting. No, we just agreed that I was we said I was hosting. No, we just agreed that I was because you wanted to admit, you said, do you want the show to be more fun than you should host it? That's exactly the conversation that just happened.

I said, okay, great. And here we are. Oh, fricking. Yeah, Luke,

we've got mail bags and that's what we're going to be flaunting today. Happy 4th of July. It's Monday, July 3rd. This is pre-taped. We like to tell you that up front in the space-time continuum here. But you've stumbled upon Morning Combat. And while your other shows are on vacation observing the 4th,

we are putting in the work to answer your frigging questions. You're looking at B.C. Brian Campbell, one half of this fantastic award-winning duo luke thomas on the other side mikey morms from cbs sports on the ones and twos uh luke uh what do you have to say about the fourth of july is this this all about freedom and america to you or what no it's about where in the city i'm going to get a view of the fireworks okay that's very patriotic of you i mean it's a little bit more than that but like you know i'm not going to do rah-rah stuff luke is it fair to say that you

you not fought but you put in time to help defend this great country at some point in your life that's safe i volunteered yes i volunteered yes well you took money from it from uncle sam don't don't try to act like this i did type like i did i would not say i would not say a princely sum if i could be candid but yes i was i got paid did uncle sam pay for the college of william and mary or not that's the key no no he did not so the way it would work is if you want to okay i don't know how it is now but at the time when i enlisted which was technically 1997 the way that it worked was you could do a four-year deal. All deals are eight-year deals, which people don't realize. You can do four active, and then four what's called inactive ready reserve. There's lots of different ways that you

can break it up. But the way I was going to do it was six years active, two years inactive ready reserve, where they could call you up for a wartime obligation if they needed to. And you had to do the six to get any money from college if you were a reservist. So you could not do four and get money, you have to do six. So I did six. And the way I was able to do that and get money was they give they would give me just enough money, I think it was 250 a month for the months that I was in school. So I would pay for some food, it would pay for books, mostly not entirely. It would pay for books, mostly, not entirely. It would pay for living things, but that was really about it. It was $2.50 a month.

Thank you for the itemized receipt on that one, Luke. I appreciate it. This isn't Memorial Day or Veterans Day, but happy birthday to this great land. End of patriotism. Luke, we have solicited our fans and viewers to send in their questions for this whole bag right here featuring two males. Let's just randomly hit the skins for the hell of it. Just for the yell of it. For the smell of it.

Yeah, it smells weird, right? All right, Luke, let's start with at 69, jimmy the jet 69 how do you like that name luke that's a real name right here these people sign up with like the worst names like booty eater 69 and it's like this is your fucking name you know uh luke thomas how much better boot uh jimmy the jet booty eater 69 wants to know would mcgregor versus diaz have been for the ultimate fighter than mcgregor i don't want to say versus chandler because i don't think we'll ever see that who McGregor versus Diaz have been for the ultimate fighter than McGregor. I don't want to say versus Chandler, because I don't think we'll ever see that McGregor and Chandler.

Yeah, I do. There's just, I mean, you know, what's funny is the show kind of got started and it helped the enthusiasm for the fight, even though it wasn't made. They were like, all right, they're facing off, you know? And now it seems like they're just two ships passing in the night. Now I'm not watching BC, but does it seem like there's a lot of what do you want to call it? On air chemistry between them? It's just that there's just not much there between them.

They don't have much interaction. So the answer is, I think it would be better. But if you know, it would be better with Diaz. It would be a lot better with Diaz. But that's not Mike's fault exactly more than it is just like what Diaz has to offer sure and uh it still wouldn't be great I don't think because Connor's kind of checked out from what we I only watched two and a half episodes of the season I did originally plan to review every episode but man did that go out the window quick I'll say that um there wasn't enough Connor Which is crazy because he's like the

Advertisement for you to tune in There was a lot of Conor in the Post fight show where they ran With Dean Thomas and Rashad Evans and they ran A bunch of Conor bonus clips Of him just being out of his mind Challenging the fighters To like you know exercise bike competitions

Or partying long in the house But there wasn't enough Inter interaction between the two fighters, trash talking. It wasn't Dillashaw snaking the grass, Faber versus Conor, and Garbrandt jumps up and gets in the face. It wasn't that, Luke. Maybe it turns into that. Probably not.

But I don't know if Conor and Nate would have fixed that anyway. I mean, is that show still alive, tough Luke, in reality? Like, is it viable? Is it still there? They care about Dana White's contender series so much more than tough in terms of actually using it to create new fighters. This feels like a Dana legacy project that it's still here, if anything, right? Yeah.

I mean, Dana, I don't, I mean, they had a new, you can't say they didn't have a new idea because they did a new idea with the contender series. Now they've kind of, you know, watered that down too, but okay. They had a new you can't say they didn't have a new idea because they did a new idea with the contender series now they kind of you know watered that down too but okay they had some new ideas but like you know remember it took okay here's how you can understand like why tough is still around one they probably have like content obligations to fill in some kind of way but the other one is this you remember how long it took for them to stop playing face the pain on fucking tv you know what i mean like well i think the band wasn't even to get like long past the point of the band breaking up they're still playing this on fucking intros i do when i first started that's not first that's not true so after i took

a bit of a break from mma through college and got right back into around 2002 or so and you know they would do they would play pay-per-views so i think i can't remember exactly when they started but uh around the 30s and 40s where they have the roman gladiator putting on all their fucking gear while face the pain is playing and shit like it took them a while before they let go of that song they're not gonna let go of a song like that which like was so fucking dated and terrible to begin with obviously uh they'll never let go of something like this unless, you know, it's like Charlton Heston with the,

with the firearm from his cold dead hand boy. That's, that's what you're going to get that, that Winchester rifle. Yeah. Time to end this suffering. I need a minute to myself so I can drift away. It's called face the pain by STEM.

Thank you. Next question. Luke is from at jeremy a rodriguez how often do you have to cleanse your palate of combat sports as a longtime fan i find myself often needing a break it it is not it so to not turn cynical luke uh we do this for a living there's no off season but burnout is inevitable in anything you pour your heart and soul into, especially when there's BS elements of it. And anything good has has a BS silver lining to what do you do to cleanse the palate outside of disgusting and gross search history involving BBLs and like ball gags self-loathing self-loathing is a very effective way of dealing with my participation in this absolutely horrendous industry no i'm not asking your morale you know your moral code on this there i guess they're saying you know so you don't get

cynical do you take a weekend off and watch only movies with the family like there's no off see i can we take vacations they hate when we yeah i definitely try to get some time spaced in between things if i feel like i don't want to watch you know yet more people getting punched in the head but i would say in general it takes a lot for me to get to that point and also you know our job is a little unique like most guys who cover mma they really only cover mma but because we do boxing i get to go back and forth and plus bc you know i've been telling you this like because i've got such a gap in my coverage um from years where i was like editorially responsible at mma fighting i've had to like play catch up on the boxing side so i just i spend a

lot of time watching like you watch 90s nba highlights i watch 90s boxing basically uh to pick and then early 2000s like stuff that i missed so um so not it takes a while for me to get there but yes but all of us get there eventually you know yeah yeah um i mean yeah switching sport i mean what i love to be to be fair what i love most about this show is it's really stupid but also um you know it's it's not just about combat sports we are able to spin off and do some bullshit and mix it up. And I think that's what the people like, too. Maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe, you know, 75% of our audience really are MMA P1s who come from your fan base that are like, enough BC, enough dick jokes, enough all that shit. I want you to preview every UFC fight on the card, and I want you to review every UFC fight on fight on the card and i want you to review every ufc fight on the card but separate from those folks luke i think our show allows me a little constant weaving because we're doing mk homework here we're you know joking about this here but who cares nobody's nobody's really watching this for bc i've i've i've our show if we were like on wfan in new york we could do noon to three.

You know what I mean? Even with the combat. Well, New York would never let you have a combat sports focus. Not terrestrial radio anyway, but we could do it. We could do three hours every single day, no sweat. I'm 100% sure about it. MK all day, nearly every single day. Let's go over to at Fresh Prince of No Hair 9703.

So he's a bald bastard, this guy. Luke, how do you see a fight between Topuria and Sterling playing out? Aljo is obviously still at Bantamweight, but he just announced yesterday, I believe, as we record this, that he plans to move up after the O'Malley fight to 145. So they are very likely to face each other, says the Fresh Prince of No Hair eventually. How do you see that fight breaking out? It's a good question. I've not thought that one through, but so I can only give you initial impressions.

So let me think this through. Obviously, so you'd have Aljo moving up a weight class, which creates some unknowns about how he might perform there even generally, irrespective of toporia as a specific opponent so that creates a little bit of hesitancy to be too sure about anything um so you can imagine what he would want to do he's going to want to but same thing at bantamweight he's going to want to box on the outside he's going to want to find the back the question is like what does his strength look like against 145ers also remember what toporia did to bry did to Bryce Mitchell like he is not just a strong guy he's a very strong grappler both technically and physically right he's and

Ryan Hall look what he did to Ryan Hall right and Ryan Hall and then on the feet now here's the thing I don't know it's actually a good question so let me see so if I recall correctly uh speaking of Buddha Eater 69 Ilya Teporia has a 69 inch reach. So let me see right now on the air what exactly would the reach be of Aljamain Sterling because I don't know it offhand. Funnily enough, BC 71 inches. So that

would continue the trend which is 100% in place of Teporia having a reach disadvantage to all of his opponents. So you could see there'd be some issues there, maybe some takedown, like what would the defense look like for Teporia? I think, you know, he's too skilled,

too strong to really succumb to being submitted. And I think it's a tough fight for Sterling, but it would be an interesting one, BC. Yeah, indeed. I'd love, I think you could put Teporia, you could put any featherweight in there. The conversation is what would Aljo look like at a division above?

Luckily for him, he's big, he's long, he relies heavily on his ground game. I don't think that changes. Will he be the same fighter, Luke? You could argue the competition will get tougher at a higher weight class, but I wonder if he's the same elite fighter in both

divisions. I know a lot of people are going to be like, hold on, let me see him at 145 against these killers and heavy hitters, but he's not there to be hit necessarily either. He's a smart fighter who leans into his strengths. Yes, that's true. And also that there are so like, there's a lot of good grapplers at one 45.

You mentioned Ryan Hall. How about Brian Ortega? He's at one 45 as well. Bukanovsky, you know, it seems to be skilled at least defensively anyway, in that regard. So,

you know, that's a, that's a tough up. I mean, listen, going up a weight class for any champion is going to be difficult. That's a tough climb from 135 to 145. Let me improv a freestyle question from at BC Booty Eater Campbell, 69 and a half, Luke. BC has a huge man crush on Brian Ortega, it seems. But Luke Thomas, what is your honest take?

And this is me making up this question right now because I'm interested in Brian Ortega right now as a viable 145 contender where is he actually at in your mind I can't look at it tangibly because there's too much romance there I love the guy and plus I I believe in his ability to find his UBL at any point in a fight he's always a threat to win it out of nowhere how good is he actually right now in your eyes? Very skilled, obviously. But for me, dude, there's a bit of a ceiling on what we've seen. Now, again, the fight with Yair ended way too quickly to draw any very broad declarations

about his improvement. And obviously, he looked really good against Korean Zombie. And, you know, he is like, I mean, here here's the thing he is very spirited as a competitor his jiu-jitsu was always going to put him in fights again i go back to the hanato moikano fight moikano was fucking him up until he just wasn't and that's that kind of thing that brian ortega can do i think he did it in the fight as well like because of that because what you saw volkanovski have to go through you know in that sense bc you cannot count him out. That being said, I

think he took a lot of beatings in his career that he didn't need to take. I think between that and some injury time off, it has really hurt his development. As skilled as he is, and as dangerous, and his jiu-jitsu is truly dangerous. It's not just a thing he's good at. It's explicitly

really, really, you have to be very careful with it um so that's interesting but the striking and everything else just looks to me like it's it's respectable but not championship well the strike the striking is respectable it's just that his striking defense is just non-existent but that's part of striking i mean that's yeah no no you want to separate them like your position and how you move through punches this your your your defense needs to be woven into your offense not one or the other People want to separate them. Your position and how you move through punches, your defense needs to be woven into your offense, not one or the other. He's too willing to show where he comes from,

which is toughness, background, and lean on that chin. But I think his will is stronger than his body's resistances, and you saw that against Max Holloway. You just can't take that type of punishment. You just can't. You just freaking can't, Josh Emmett. You can't. Thank you. That was my editorial for the day. Let's go over to a question, Luke, from at rustictribedesigns30. Oh, I love those guys. Hey, Rustic Tribe Designs right there. They have created us some awesome things. They're still threatening to create us a room service diaries table, Luke, filled with MK artifacts. I mean, these guys rule.

Here's the question. Luke, how many times are you going to watch the Arnold Schwarzenegger doc on Netflix? And they have a question for me. But let's hear your answer first, Luke. I got through about one episode and kind of checked out. Here's the problem. And this is why, like, like pumping iron is so different pumping iron obviously is a very different kind of documentary in so many ways but bc i don't know what your appetite is uh i just even for figures of adoration like schwarzenegger and i've got

multiple schwarzenegger things all around this room for fuck's sake right I can't have a hard time watching documentaries where the person being documented has say over the content yeah I just I can't do it it's the same thing except for the last stand with Michael Jordan he had full say and it was awesome all right okay but I mean he let it fly there a little bit and I watched the one with Schwarzenegger. It was interesting, but even then for example, one thing that was really disappointing from him in the first episode where he addresses steroid use and he admits it. He's like, we definitely

were all using, which is true. Of course, they were all using. And he was like, it's responsible for about 5% of my success. I was like, it's probably a little more than that. It's probably a little more than that right it's probably a little more than that and I think you should be honest about that so like stuff shit like that you know what I mean where if someone else was covering him and trying to do an honest job but getting a more you

know a less curated look I think that would be a little bit more interesting for me because I'm not yeah I mean I obviously think highly of the guy but like I'm also interested in his failures too and like his downsides and like yeah complexity of him as a man you know you know that movie he did where he gave birth that one junior yeah I'll never watch that Luke you know I've actually never seen that one yeah it didn't it didn't interest me all right I'm not trying to give birth I I give birth three times a day after each meal Luke and it's not it's not it's not it's not pretty to watch okay yeah yeah if you know what i mean uh the other question from rustic tribe design was brian what's your favorite music documentary great question i don't know that i have a go-to but i watch them all the time

endlessly i will say my favorites that stand out luke have you ever seen the eagles documentary that originally debuted on showtime and was three hours long have you ever seen that one i mean is that a serious question? You think I give a fuck about whether Don Henley lives or dies? I'm not a huge, I like the Eagles. I'm not a huge fan, though, but it's just so well done and thorough that I love it. There is a fantastic Jaco Pistorius documentary that just came out that was fueled, paid for by Robert Trujillo, Luke, who is what?

He was the, he was a, is he the bassist for Metallica still? He's the bassist for Metallica, yeah. Yeah, he kind of paid for this and produced it, and it's just incredible. The Jeff Beck one was fantastic. That was on Showtime a few years ago. Did you watch the Showtime Wu-Tang one? I have not seen that yet.

Should I get on that? It's pretty good, actually. Yeah, actually, that one, that one I really did like. That one, they went, they did that one well, yeah. There is also a David Crosby one that Cameron Crowe put out a couple years ago that is, you talk about honest, it's so honest about Crosby's failures as a man, along with his musical brilliance, that anyone that likes that realm of music uh don't miss that one many other ones though i love a good dog i see look i've always loved you know non-fiction more than than stories you know that's why i'm like dude the world is so endless i mean this is a poor this is a real i

mean you should know that this is a weakness of us like yes this character of men like the fact that we don't like seek out fiction more beyond the superficial like hey i'm gonna go watch fucking avengers you know yeah uh but like it's true like the i keep like for all these books i'm like you know every time i buy a new book it's always a non-fiction book because there's always one i want to put in circulation because i find the world itself like so fascinating but it's that it is shitty that we don't read fiction to be quite candid you can't make me although i am reading dune right now luke because i'm so fired up for the the second dune movie coming out are you that's all i talk about my house and and are you into that you mean poor man star wars no no no original star wars right that's what george lucas stole he stole if any if anything

star wars is a poor man's dune but indeed indeed but don't watch the 1984 hilariously ridiculous one watch the uh what's the guy's name denny villanueva is that the guy's name the the director that's just so brilliant yeah all right this is probably a conversation for me and web scream not me and lou thomas but you better watch it in theaters doing too will you yeah i'll see that in theaters yeah okay you you would you agree that while you won't do a full mast five stars like i will on dune one as arguably like a top three movie i've ever seen you want you'll say what will you say about it that's great or that it's very good i like the first dune a lot yeah i thought it was very very good i enjoyed it

sure okay okay there you go there you go luke let's go over to at kaylin r zavala could be a lady luke how do you see tatiana suarez versus aaron blanchfield if they fought at 125 now to be fair suarez is climbing the ladder at 115 now after returning at flyweight luke who would win that fight i don't know that's a fucking amazing fight and i don't know i really don't know um i mean suarez has in theory should have the better wrestling, right? But that remains to be seen. Dude, Aaron Blanchfield is terrifying. I mean, here's the thing. You see, like, a fight like...

So, for example, we've seen good wrestling, defensively and offensively, from Aaron Blanchfield. I'd say much more on the offensive end, but that's not her fault, right? So, I think that she would be a hell of a force but the question is not what would she be a worthy opponent up front the question is like by the deep second round maybe heading into the third what is what does the wrestling look like then right when you've used all of your tricks and now it's a little bit more about just kind of core fundamentals and who kind

of wants it more in those grinding moments. I don't have any doubt about her commitment, but like the depth of knowledge and sort of wrestling sensibility that Tatiana Suarez has, how would that, how would that equate? What would that look like deep into a fight where the, the,

the margin between them is thin, but can break. I don't know. I don't know what the answer to that is. That's, that's, that's why, I mean,

you know, we, we get, we do. Okay, bet. We have no fucking idea what we're doing but this is really one of those fights we're like honestly I don't really have a clear sense about what it would look like I mean it would come down to striking probably so I mean I don't know Tatiana Suarez's striking didn't look insanely great on that comeback it was more just about the deliberate wrestling and takedowns to get the job done but can you take Blanchfield down and control over there and if not what does that boxing match look like i'm not really sure i'd love to see it though yeah for sure i mean look tatiana's gonna

going to wear a ufc title are you are you prepared for that sure sure i mean she should have had one a while ago could be to be quite honest with, yeah, you're damn right about that. This is from Zell Jaish. I butchered that guy's name, but whatever. Luke, what is your dream vacation right now? What's the one that you're like, damn, we got to do that? Honey, we have to do that one day. We have to.

So there's probably two different ones. There's two ones that my wife and i have talked about is like the dream one i think one would be a tour uh between seoul south korea tokyo japan and maybe like other parts within japan maybe even australia like something like that you know um that would be one to see those places but with a particular focus on japan and korea the other one which is a little, but with a particular focus on Japan and Korea. The other one, which is a little bit more doable, has been one on my list. My wife has been to a number of places in South America, but she's never been to Argentina, which I find a little bit surprising, but it's pretty far.

My understanding is from Bogota to Buenos Aires is like, I think, eight or nine hours, maybe even 10, something like that. So it's far. It takes a while to get there. I would love, I would love to go to Argentina, dude. I mean, you can get close to the South Pole. You can get pretty far. There's obviously coastline there. I mean, the food, forget about it. And dude, from what I hear, Argentina, especially if you have american dollars is dirt cheap like super affordable in fact there was an article about americans just like posting up there on these digital you know nomad visas getting like plush real estate for like 600 bucks a month in

downtown buenos aires like you just can't believe easily you can anyone could afford that shit doesn't that explain why my don Donna never fought again after the two Floyd pay-per-views? I mean, why would you, bro? How much do you think he made off those two pay-per-views? Like 15 million?

I would say he made 4 million in the first one because that was about what Floyd was offering opponents. And for the rematch, he probably made 6 million. Okay. So 10 plus some sponsors, who knows? Let's say 10 or 11 million,

dude, 10 or 11 million in Argentinaina is gonna go far far you know um so yeah god bless him dude he made some money and beat up floyd a little bit and got out they do that's that's winning as far as i'm concerned is argentina the europe of south america luke it is a little bit from what i from what i understand what i understand like From what I understand, like if you just look at the architecture and like who obviously immigrated there from Europe, which is, you know, direct descendants to, obviously a lot of Germans are there,

but, you know, plenty more other ones. Italians are obviously a huge part of it. And they do speak Spanish, but they have a very unique accent and their food is very different. And they kind of see themselves, you know, they don't see themselves as like closer to bolivians than they are the spanish or the italian i suppose what i understand anyway so i love that you said your dream trip is or at least

you mentioned tokyo along with korea tokyo is my dream trip and uh my my wife and kids don't want to go i want to go so bad yeah maybe i need mark ray monday to take me and we can go eat at uh steakhouses that wrestlers uh frequented back in the day but mikey our producer said he went to japan when he was a pos 12 year old who didn't eat fish and he had a miserable time but would love to go back luke are you surprised by that revelation based on the fact that we left that steakhouse in london and mikey's like hold on i gotta stop working on the way he's like hold on i gotta go to motherfucking bk son what you know about that uh yeah there you go uh and i was like wow you really are a peasant my nature-based one is uh banff national park outside of calgary luke are you aware of uh of you know the the blue canadian

rockies and and the i guess i'm not okay well that, that's where I want to go. Right. Or Jasper national park. Not too far from there. That, that crisp blue water in the mouth. Yeah. It's going to, it's going to change my life. Thank you. Hey, let's hear from at Matthew Thomas, nine seven zero. Not your, Oh yeah. This could be your brother. Yeah. With, is he born in 1970? Your brother? No. Okay. This might not might not be him uh with spence crawford coming up do you guys ever see a scenario in the future where most or all divisions in the sport have one champion holding all four belts and if so how big of a deal would that be towards boxing making becoming more easy for casuals or newbies i mean mean, it would fix everything. That's the dream, right? Like when boxing was boxing, quote unquote, you had eight divisions, you know, 70 years ago.

And eventually a second recognized title popped up. But for the most part, it was every division had one face, one name, one champion. Even though, Luke Thomas, we are in a better, optimistically fun era at the moment where we're getting a lot of unification and undisputed championships where we're going to have one face after Spence Crawford, who's the best welterweight in the world. If Usyk and Fury finally fight, we're going to have one name, one face. The idea that all 17 of boxing's divisions could get there

and have a reigning and defending undisputed champion is absurdly not realistic. And the main reason, in my opinion, is because the four sanctioning bodies who are all, all regularly under question from boxing hardcores based on their practices and decision-making, they wouldn't want that. I'm surprised we had as many undisputed opportunities right now. And the reason why is because in prior years, sanctioning bodies made that really hard. They'd force you to defend mandatories or give up the belt despite a big fight on the horizon because they want you to be active with their belt. Because every time you fight with the, let's say WBC title, you have to

pay them a big percentage of your salary. And that's why Errol Spence Jr. kind of railed against them at the end of the Spencer Crawford Spence presser. And I don't know if you saw Luke Mauricio Suleiman Jr., the head of the WBC, responded to that by publishing a article on their website, supposedly about where all that money goes. Only the only problem is the article didn't actually mention where all that money goes. But we have seen people rail against the sanctioning bodies in the past.

Both Canelo and Floyd both gave up titles ahead of big ones, so they didn't have to pay that sanctioning fee. But no, I don't ever see a scenario where we have one recognized champion. And the reason is because boxing is broken. There's too many people at the table that are surviving by getting their piece of the pie and they will dig in and fight for that piece of the pie unless some type of central governing body was created that feels like a pipe dream for boxing just to it's too good to be no it's not gonna happen it's not gonna happen no anything that happens to boxing good is accidental yeah yeah i mean sometimes the sanctioned bodies like they're doing right now

they're getting out of each other's way to make these big fights but will that become a long-term trend no no no they don't want one they don't want one champion with all four belts fighting twice a year you see this is why i've never enjoyed nice things it's because i always know this is going to come with the other end before too long you know what i mean yeah yeah i mean you can eat a lot of great food but eventually you're gonna have to luke right that's what you're saying you you i mean there's a lot of defecation talk going on from that side actually i should say this side of the uh screen there huh yeah a lot of a lot of talk about maybe my haters are right luke my comedy bits are down to like three categories it's all i've got left luke okay

straw weight sticks and shit. Okay, there you go. And skits and bits. Don't forget skits and bits. That's a key staple. Hey, did you see the guy from Portugal? The man did a Reddit AMA, and he got bombarded by skits and bits, Luke. But I think he kind of called it on himself.

Are you not aware of this? I'm not aware of this. All right, all right. Another topic for another day. Let's go over to at jesse brooks 9612 two-part question who would you guys take in a rematch between volk and islam let's start there luke do you have a who would you favor based on how close that first fight was if they rematched at 55 um i know the inclination is to say volk but i feel like makachev would adjust but i feel like makachev would adjust to

i feel like makachev would adjust to everyone's being like oh volk would just tighten up this and fix that and he would that's true uh i just feel like islam would go like oh he couldn't go to those in the fight that's true but that's just that moment now with the ability to reflect and train and come up with new stuff which i'm sure he, I think, would be able to get around that. In other words, I don't think the difference between Volk and Islam is in any way great. And again, I understand the arguments. I don't think they're strong, but I understand the arguments

for saying he won three rounds the first time. It's not to say it's out of the realm of possibility, BC, but I feel like folks are sleeping on this. Folks love sleeping on Islam. I don't quite get it. Even after he beat Charles Oliveira the way he did, you know, it's still there. We're still here doing this shit. Like, okay. All right. I guess I would, I would favor Islam. I would also expect him to win, but you know, you'd expect it to be a close fight. I mean, I didn't ever thought

Volk would come in and wrestle the way he did, you know, and, and stop the takedowns the way he did at times. It was incredible. The second part of the question from Jesse Brooks is do you guys think Shavko could beat Leon Edwards right now yes but I don't know how likely that is. In other words, I could see a fight where Rachmanov is able to play off the clinch and into grappling positions and do well there. But Leon's movement is great. His takedown defense is great. His strike selection is really superb, obviously. I think he could beat Leon like i don't think the gap between them is so big that that's impossible but i would favor leon to win does that make sense

yeah it does i mean isn't shavka coming off a performance in which he looked a little human cannot can you rack my brain for me yeah he fought um jeff neal that's right that's right that's right um it's part of the process yeah you know what Luke strength versus strength I mean I guess they're asking if they fought right now but I guess I'm saying you know what if they fought in a year I'd favor Shavkat to win is that crazy yeah today I think it's today I give it to Edwards in a year it's much harder to say yeah right now it's tough to say edwards is operating right now at a very high level in the middle of that top ten people were like oh kamaru slowed down in the second fight okay a little all right fine i'm not gonna say that's not true it's true

but get the out of here with this like i have been a skeptic of leon edwards not that i didn't know he was good i knew he was good but i didn't think he was good. I knew he was good, but I didn't think he was championship good. And for the most part in the first fight, he really wasn't. But then, dude, in the second fight, like Kamaru didn't fall off a cliff. He got a little bit older, somewhat noticeable. That was just a masterful performance by a guy who brought all the forces of his game together to really shine. I mean, of all the times to doubt leon edwards after the second kamaru fight is truly the worst time you could pick what about if i mean like because kamaru can't wrestle the same amount he could like back in the woodley days right when he was coming

up to for the title he can't sure he was just fighting lesser competition trying to move up. I mean, but he was wrestling exclusively in those times for the most part and ground and pounding. Then with Trevor Whitman, his striking came around, and then it looked like for a bit he was leaning too hard on the striking. And now at his advanced age, Luke, I'm wondering if he actually can pull off a full wrestling-based attack over 25 minutes. I mean, who can?

Even Habib had to slow down against Iaquinta in the last two rounds, right? Eddie Alvarez once told me, and I think this is not a hardcore truth, but probably a pretty truthful way of looking at it, which is he goes, Luke, in a five-round fight, you can wrestle max three rounds, so you've got to figure out what you're going to do with the other 10. And I was like, that's probably a pretty good way of looking at it. You know, he didn't mean like you were only going to wrestle the first three

and strike the last two. He just meant you got about a good 15 minutes of hardcore wrestling. After that, you got to figure it out. You know, I like when he says your name before saying that it adds like poignancy to it. Luke, like he respects you. Like Luke. I remember, I remember he did it on air and it kind of like it was a really interesting way of saying it you know yeah uh let's go over to at

115th dream nine is that a combination of john lennon and bob dylan songs put into one title i don't know can you please do an rsd with tie to ivasa that would be the best episode ever and i'm curious what questions would you ask him luke uh i mean it'd be great i mean why would you bother with any of that like i guess i would ask him a little bit about growing up the particulars of how he grew up but mostly i'm going to be like how many beers have you had in one night how many times have you shit yourself you know i want i want to know about the excess that That's what I want to know about. Yeah, there's no question. How many times, like in BC's

description, Big John, how many times have you just destroyed a commode in Tokyo? You know, I'd love to know about bar fights. You know that guy's gotten into a ton of them too, right? How many times have somebody broken things, someone's broken shit over his head and then regretted it? You know, he looks like that kind of guy.

At Landon Bolin 136 who will be champion at bantamweight by the start of 2024 jesus who the hell knows okay so let's think about this through it's august if sterling wins he's not fighting again this year right like the guy is already fighting on an expedited timeline now i'm not saying that they wouldn't introduce a uh uh interim title just to fuck with him but in terms of him if he wins it would be like he's not going to fight again right there's just no way well he's not going to fight at bantamweight again according to his words if you if win or lose no matter what that's what he said yesterday i believe now if he if he loses, does that change things? I don't know.

I mean, Merab's still there, and that seems to be the reason. Lucas, does Sterling have a really hard cut at Bantamweight or a regular hard cut? I think he's got a pretty tough one. I mean, he makes it because he's that good or whatever, but I think it's pretty tough. So, look, it could be win or lose the titles. You know, I mean, if O'Malley beats him, O'Malley is the new champion, but we got what?

Three big fights in the title picture coming up. What's your best guess of who starts the new year with the belt? At 135? Yeah. So I guess we're saying that either O'Malley would defend, let's say December, and that would decide it if he wins or there would be a vacant fight at the end of the year. Dude, would O'Malley defend it

four months later? Maybe? Maybe not. Maybe not. You're right. I mean, I just see these... Here's the thing. Here's the thing the UFC is doing that I think is kind of confusing people a little bit or tricking them. I mean, I'm not saying they're trying to trick, but the point I'm making is on this show, for example, we'll be like be like oh look at all these fights they announced but like

they're just spreading that over like a wide like net it's not they're not all concentrated on the same ones sometimes they are but a lot of times they're spread out so it's like uh i i feel like if if i don't know four months just seems like a really doable turn. We've seen turnarounds much shorter than that one, even for championship fights. But if you don't have to, why would you, you know? Yeah, you're right. I think the better question based on the timing issue, in my opinion, would be next summer, one year from now, who's the Bantamweight champion?

That's the better question, Luke. Because on that point, Sterling's way gone, win or lose. And I might say Murab. lose and i might say marab really i might say marab yeah probably in that in that case yeah i would agree with that yeah yeah i mean so who does got what cheeto coming up san hagen's got who look he's got he's got umar god it could be umar by that point for all we know damn yeah all right those are two very very tough fights two very tough fights very very tough guys let's hear from at screw you underscore the end of that name look really nice a lot yeah i do it a lot wow that's pretty good uh another

fantasy matchup question about boxing for bc. If there was a super series created with each fighter meeting another one with the likes of Bernard Hopkins, Triple G, Marvin Hagler, Ray Leonard, Canelo, Sergio Martinez, Thomas Hearns, and Kelly Pavlik, who would go on to win it? Now, I guess we're saying if these were all the middleweight versions of themselves and furthermore would anyone out of the eight go undefeated in these matchups so luke let's say we have a mythical middleweight tournament bhop glovkin haggler leonard canelo sergio martinez thomas the hitman hearns kelly pavlik i mean this is basically the question. I mean, what is Kelly Pavlik doing in there? Let's be honest. I mean, I love Kelly Pavlik. That Jermaine Taylor, the first fight was amazing. Listen, I'm not saying he wasn't a good boxer,

but I mean, we're talking about Hagler and Canelo. Pavlik, you know, this is a separate conversation. All right, who's the favorite? It's Hagler, right? He did lose that. Hagler is my guy, 100%. He did lose that middleweight to Ray my guy 100 he did lose that middle weight to ray leonard who is also in this conversation very controversial very controversial

could ray leonard do that twice or three times i don't know haggler is the best middleweight of all time in my estimation i do think triple g came close for a while there luke you know he he tied the record for middleweight defenses with 20 i I mean, Triple G's in that. Peak Triple G is a problem for every person that ever walked on this planet. Big drama show. But Hagler can switch stances. He can box as well as he can fight. And he has a chin and a backbone and a will like few in history.

I'm thinking Hagler comes out of this tournament. I don't know if anyone goes unbeaten. Now, I guess he's saying this would be a double elimination super. Okay. So remember the Showtime Super Six, Super Middleweight Tournament, Luth, that Andre Ward won. You were allowed losses in that. That was a round robin tournament. And then I guess the guys with the best records fought each other in the finals. If I'm correctly recalling, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there was a semifinals in there. Under this scenario, I like Hagler to win this tournament. But does he go undefeated in your eyes?

On any given day, could Hopkins, Triple G, Canelo, you know, Tommy Hearns was a great middleweight. Well, I mean, listen, the story in my mind of the Leonard fight, I know a lot of people scored for Leonard. That's fine. I don't. I scored for Hagler. And so in a world where that has already happened, of course he could lose.

I mean, I think he wins that, but he doesn't, like, dominate everyone. You know, those are competitive close fights in a few different directions. So, no, I don't think you can say that. What about the Canelo from 2019 now granted that was at 168 but that guy who was so efficient walking down and destroying billy joe saunders and caleb plant and calum smith what does that guy do against tagler is he in the fight luke i mean that's a i think he gets i think he gets outworked i think he gets outworked yeah yeah i mean hell i mean haggler's chin is insane it is just insane um love that question does that shit canelo goes and fights and flurries and then takes a little

bit of time and then goes and you know throws a combo and takes some time i think haggler would be just on you yeah yeah it just takes some time is that jimmy eat world luke jimmy eat world boy that was a 90s high school radio fucking jam all the time i bet you jimmy ate ass too i mean let's just keep that trend going all right there you go let's go over to at ski sonic when i ran track the boxers in which i won my first race against henceforth became my quote lucky drawers oh he's talking about oh sorry luke he's talking about the underwear not the physical box yeah i don't need to know this you can actually stop this question here uh have you ever owned a so-called lucky garment or trinket how did it become imbued with such power

i didn't win any races after that for the record and ruining track in oh running track in boxers sucks yeah first of all don't run track in boxer. Luke, have you ever had a piece of clothing that you referred to as your lucky blank or that you felt gave you superpower or luck? Do I look like a man who is just swimming in an ocean of luck? Based on what you know about me, would you say that luck has been a companion? I mean, yes, of course, in some ways it has but no i don't i don't have like these are my lucky shoes no uh hard work great determination fuck face i mean those are the backbones of success okay once again luke just like the mk curse people aren't being like fully

literal like it's more of a mental thing you have something that happened it's a mental crutch yes i don't need that or organized religion. I'm good to go, friend. Oh, wow. Well, you'll find out what you need at the end of the life, Luke. Hopefully, I'll be there to pull you out of the ditch. We'll tell you, from 1998 to about 2002, I had a lucky orange sweater. It was just a regular wool sweater, Luke.

But I overachieved in college hookups with that sweater. And I mean, one time at, at Seton hall, there was a, there was a Jennifer Love Hewitt dead ringer, Luke. And you know, when we talked about fumbling on the goal line, you know, I was in position to win Luke. And of course I, you know, botched it horrendously, but that lucky orange sweater, I even wore it to New York city in 2001. When tried out for the ESPN Sports Trivia Game Show two-minute drill, of which I appeared on and won the tryout, Luke, wearing the lucky orange sweater. Now, I tried to wear the lucky orange sweater to my actual episode

that was filmed, but at the last minute, they were like, no, you can't wear that bright orange thing, and they went out and got me a suit jacket and a shirt to put on but um and you lost like a bitch well that that's a story for another day if i can get a working vcr i can produce the video of me on espn's two minute drill luke we should we could do it really i would fucking love actually it's pretty cool i would love to see that yeah yeah it was it was like a one-on-one trivia show you remember that show with kenny main as the host i remember the name and i remember all these kinds of shows but i couldn't tell you i remember the only one i really remember was stump the schwab yeah that was this

was after that this was before for folks who don't know what stump the schwab is schwab was this big fat loser nerd it was who was kind of like chat gpt you gotta have the head researcher at espn yeah yeah yeah he was he was probably a nice guy i'm being a dick you know all right um oh i missed mikey mikey wanted to know if uh if marab versus suhudo would become the new title fight if aljo vacates well saburo's got to beat cheeto cheeto right i mean yeah if he beats cheeto yeah yeah yeah there you go um luke that lucky orange sweater by the way many hook by the way, many hookups in that thing. Many hookups in it, Luke.

Is that why I have an orange car today? Does that mean you practicing with auto-erotic asphyxiation in the back of a 7-Eleven parking lot? Is that why I have an orange car and an orange wallet today, Luke? Yes. I wore orange flip-flops to drop off my son this morning, Luke. I'm telling you.

The luck continues. Let's go over to at Eldorito4014. Do you think McGregor's next fight does less than one million pay-per-view buys? He's been out of the game for a long time with lots of controversy, Twitter rambles, and no one being interested in tough. It seems like fans and casuals are a bit sick of Connor with the rise of illegal streaming. I can only see him doing 800,000 ish.

That is a good question. And in the current landscape, but let's remember tank versus Ryan Garcia just did what 1.2 million. It was a big win, a big win. And that fight seven years ago probably would have done, you know, a million and a half, a million six or seven. What does Conor versus Chandler do on pay-per-view in February?

Luke, tell me, tell me the truth there. I don't think it's in any way a gift. I'll say this. It's 100% not a given that it does a million, like no chance. I don't think he is. It's like the public awareness of him has not gone down bc so in that sense his fame hasn't waned but the appetite for it while still clearly very high it's just you know the in like the people were enamored with connor you know

with the sort of feverish kind of thing for a while we're past that a little bit so i mean don't make me wrong he's still a huge star. It would do big numbers. Of course, it's also opponent dependence. You're asking about Chandler. What do you say, BC? I would say between five and 750, something like that. Yeah. Now, he has fought in the streaming era for sure, Luke.

That cowboy comeback, I'm looking at Wikipedia right now, which was in 2020, did 1.35 million estimated paper. paper yeah but that was what fresh back from i mean that was the first fight back from sure i'm just trying to i'm just trying to set the stage here the second poirier fight from 2021 in january reportedly based on estimations did a million and a half and according to wikipedia luke i don't know if this is true they're saying yeah i don't know where these number jose who's sourcing these numbers um let me click on the thing here uh yeah this was mma junkie was an estimation on the 1.5 for mcgregor poirier 2 mcgregor poirier 3 july of 21 we were there according to this it's saying 1.8 million no fuck that's mma and they're referencing an mma junkie story on on uh

send me that story i don't believe that there's no chance it did that yeah i'll send it to you in our free time but look connor has fought in the streaming era though right he already has yes but the question i think the spirit of this question really is how much has the losing mixed with the bad headlines mixed with this current state now where it's like, is he just strung out on drugs and not trying? Is he on roids? And that's why he's not coming back. Like what the hell's going on?

That has to contribute to a decline of some degree, but eight, eight to 900, if it's promoted, right. Still feels right. But yeah, will it be,

will it be promoted right again she doesn't do connor's not so connor's not so washed you couldn't do big numbers that's not what i'm saying at all but like i mean dude like the flame on this fight it's not extinguished but it is i mean it is flickering right it's flickering i mean they don't do press tours anymore luke right they don't do like the kind of things they used to to to they don't need to pay-per-view is still important but it's not what it once was they don't they just don't need to this is what i mean it's like dude no one's kicking them in the ass to make them do extra shit and so it's like i'm getting slap fucking emails from the pr people it's like this is what you're spending your time doing.

Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. We got two more questions here. Luke, this is good time, right?

Good time. Great oldies. No chickadee. Bang, bang. This is from at Johnny one, three, eight.

What's your number one search query on, on pornography sites. What's your number one search query? Sorry, look, Johnny138138 has a question. Hey, Donks, in the spirit of holiday and celebration of the greatest country on Earth, would love for each of you to create

a concert of four to five bands or solo acts, living or dead, to create the greatest concert of all time. Can only imagine the garbage BC will be picking mine would include according to johnny here elvis as the headliner robert johnson and beethoven below

him thanks for all the content the fuck wants to go to that and luke rip a mean vape hit for your day one donks johnny from tampa luke's luke will vape when he wants to first of all yeah i don't have my vape uh my marijuana vape on isn't there a super concert going around right now with like gnr metallica and all these other people on the same card did i make that up do i see that on social media gnr used to tour with metallica no i think it's uh it's metallica and somebody else but metallica is doing some stuff with pantera i know when i'm seeing pantera in september it's just their headlining. So it's not that,

but I mean, the living or dead part I hate because then you're like, okay, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Miles Davis, like, you know,

you can go crazy with it. Yeah. It's like, you can't ask a question like that. Like, who is this for? Like, you know,

the biggest audience, but like, you just, you can't just assemble random shit like that. There has to be, let me ask you this. Even, even when we live through,

what was the big one? Feed the world in thes like uh live aid remember live aid yeah live even then the even then the the that was the unifying force there was a message behind it there was something there you need something to kind of anchor it all otherwise it's just disparate acts it doesn't all right let's how about the anchor is a festival what i mean by that is you know 15 10 15 years ago, Luke, I attended Bonnaroo and Austin city limits festival and they're awesome. Right. And you either camp there or you get a hotel and all that. And you, you can't wait to see the lineup. Right.

And it's usually like, you know, are the, of the, of the top five or six bands, you know, is there at least three or four that would put you there? Let's say they create some new Coachella tomorrow and they say, Luke Thomas, for your own musical taste, give me four acts to headline it. What would be the thing that would get you out of your seat standing front row in a crowd of 90,000 people in front of the stage?

What four bands right now that are living that could do this, okay? I'm not talking about a Beatles reunion. I'm talking about right now. Who are you picking? Mighty, Mighty Boss Tones. Yeah, right. You're like Jedi Mind Tricks, Vinny Paz,

Oh, yeah. Keep going. Here we go. Apathy and Cannibal Corpse. There you go. Right? Dude, I don't think of music in these ways. I know that you're like, I don't know how to explain this to you.

Like, I don't have a relationship with my music. I enjoy in any kind of public way. It's strictly a personal, like, you know how like, uh, part of like, uh, the Protestant refer, I don't know if it came from the Protestant reformation, but part of religious reformation in this country was that initially it was believed that only clergy could be your guiding force to God. And then eventually you could have, it was clear to them that you can have a personal relationship and you did not need the intermediary, although it served other functions. It's sort of like that with me. Like when I think about like the task of who would you put up for 90,000 people,

I'm like, I don't think about nine other people, much less 90. That's not the way in which I interpret this. This is like what it does to me, for me, in my life, in a very personal way. So when people are like, oh, I don't like that, or that's not for me, I can't really judge that. I mean, I get that. I'm not intending it for a broader audience in any way at all. So Luke, no one's asking for this type of breakdown from you. They just want to know what four bands could headline a festival that would get you the most excited right now.

I mean, what the hell is wrong with you? It's hard to answer this question. It's like a weird way to pose. You're like, what I like is not what other people like. We know that. You're like, which bands would you need to make you Lomo Saltado in your kitchen while someone else makes you a coffee? It's like, I don't need them for that.

That doesn't solve me any kind of problems. We can the show i guess if this is the direction i don't i don't mean to like here i am stonewalling the question like um okay certainly you could do metallica i think that's a big festival band at this point right the headlining one right it's for you this is for you the fan that would get you the most excited we're not we don't care about anybody else it's your festival it's the luke thomas coachella bonnaroo woodstock okay it's ultima and guess what okay you're the one that's gonna be clear nothing i'm gonna say is gonna draw 90 000 people i just want to point that out okay um in that event of the question that's not the spirit of the question you weirdo pick the four bands you'd be so excited to see at a festival at once what's wrong with you pantera obviously that's a given pantera but they're not alive for the most part right yeah they are they're touring i mean two of them are

you know it's a 50 50 proposition you know whatever they're having to get murdered on stage you know what if matt brown just fills in for dime bag right you'd be sized i go to that shit yeah i go to that all right so there's that one that's a good that's your easy win that's your big time win um beyond that fuck me dude i really don't i don't know i don't know maybe maybe dude yeah you could do that they they headline certain festivals but like dude that is a rough show man that's a rough show that's like a tough fucking outing that's that's like that's hardcore sparring you know um um i'm trying to think like in my like yeah dude i don't know i don't know how to i really don't know how to answer that question i don't have i don't have

that kind of relationship with the music to be fair i don't really like music that's why i'm a big metal fan that's why uh is that it i'm a big metal fan because i don't really like music that's why i'm a big metal fan that's why uh is that it i'm a big metal fan because i don't actually like music uh mikey is saying 1997 lip biscuit so the venue just burns down around you maybe you're into oh you know who i saw that was fucking great was rage rage against the machine they killed it and i saw them at the 2008 festival so you can add them to the list you know who else was great? System of a Down. They're not my favorite band by any stretch of the imagination. Here are just some bands I've seen that put on really good shows.

How about that? System of a Down for another night. We can fly the Armenian flag. Armenian time, yeah. Yeah, and then last but not least, it would not be the Wu-Tang Clan because I saw them with Rage, and they were horrendous. You know what, BC? What's that?

Because they're black, Luke? Is that what's going on here? No, dude. There was 50,000 of them on stage talking over each other. They were horrendous. You know what, BC? Was that because they're black, Luke? Is that what's going on here? No, dude. There was 50,000 of them on stage talking over each other. They were all drunk and high. It was awful. Guns and Roses. I'm not even a GNR guy, dude.

I've seen them now three times because of my wife. Dude, that show is just one of the best shows I've ever seen. Just pound for pound. Amazing. There you go. Yeah, there you go. Thank you very much for fielding that question. We've got one more for you here. Thank you, Johnny from Tampa. Hopefully your Elvis and Robert

Johnson and Beethoven concert works out great in your mind. Let's go to at my coup midi Aurea. When was the last time either of you got into some sort of physical altercation with another person? what caused it and how did it end uh fast so we're not talking anything in the gym right like that's completely out right yeah we're talking about like a school yard fight a street fight a bar fight like when was the last time the last time god i can't even really remember. Jesus, dude, my 20s were filled with them. The last time I was in a physical altercation.

Does shouting match count? Not really, right? Like, people get in each other's face like that? Yeah, okay, when was the last time you were close to one then? What do you got? Sh shouting match with another person the day after my wife gave birth i had a i had a not a road rage incident but i had a face-to-face with a guy uh because he was trying to try to he tried to cut me off by running a red uh did you threaten to go third world on him i did not threaten to go third world although that

is the i mean that's the zing of all zings. I think it was when my buddy was between tours and was visiting me. He got into a fight in a popular neighborhood called Adams Morgan and beat the living fuck out of a guy. I had to pull him off and grab another friend who was fighting someone else. We had to race out of there before the cops got there so that was a bad one that was one of those ones where i was like we i can't keep living my life this way you know i can't there might have been another one past that um well look as an adult now it's just not worth it unless somebody's putting hands on your family right i mean you know you don't want to get stabbed over an argument or a road rage incident or whatever, right?

Or do you not agree? Also, if someone could put hands on my brother, I'm like, I'm not really going to. You're like somebody could not pay rent at my dad's rental property in Las Vegas, but I'm not getting down there and figuring it out for him. Yeah, I get you, Luke. Luke, I'm a lover. I'm not a fighter. I don't get into fistfights, Luke.

I mean, I've thrown a drunken punch or two, not connecting, didn't go anywhere. I've certainly been punched at certain times in my life when I've deserved it. But, yeah, I don't have great stories for you. Luke, I don't have the bar brawls that you were a part of in your life. I didn't go away to college. I'm not going to read this. I'm not going to read this, but there is a request from Mikey to tell a particular story. Would you tell that particular story? Oh, he wants to know so i've gotten people

close to throwing punches at me in pickup basketball and i was prepared for the reality of it but you know it didn't escalate further i mean look that's that's how i compete i'm not afraid to get people to the point of losing their shit. If I feel them losing their shit will give me some type of advantage that I don't have because I can't jump and I'm not quick and I really can't shoot. And I'm really not all that skilled, Luke, but I'm a smart passer. I'm a great pick setter. I can rebound the shit out of things. And, you know, at the end of the day, Luke, I've played a lot of basketball against people

that are better than me. And sometimes being, as Mikey just said, being a mental warrior is my one up my one up i mean to me i've always believed what happens in between the lines on a court whether it's your best friends or people you've never met it stays there dude right stays there it should but it never does there's so many fights on the fucking ymca basketball courts of old guys tearing their acls and trying to fist fight it's the saddest shit on earth the last time i was close or at least prepared for one was probably about 10 years ago i was moving out of an apartment and my kids were really small and i was uh i had to break the lease to get out because it wasn't a good situation we needed to go somewhere different and the neighbors were crazy it was whatever but neighbors, Luke, were related to the landlord. So when the landlord came to inspect it, he started accusing me of breaking things that I didn't to try to add money on the situation.

And then he started to act tough. So the dude's like 55, but he was big and jacked. And he owned a factory. And he was from another country, Luke. I mean, he was this Polish dude who was ready to go if necessary. And we got into an argument over the money and over the accusations, which were untrue, of things he said I broke. And he started to mouth off about my wife randomly. And I stepped forward and got into his face and said, this will be the last time you'll mention my wife's name.

And Luke, I balled up the fist with the right hand. Now he was older than me, but he was a lot bigger and stronger than me. And I was just thinking if he throws the right hand, I'm going to slip it, hit him once and then see what happens next. Luke, what do you think would happen? You would have broken your wrist throwing that horrendous punch. You don't think so. I don't know. This was like, this was like 2010. So so that's like that's a lot younger b that's like 32 year old bc okay look i bet you

i bet you you know i i figured out quickly he was right-handed i bet you i could have slipped that with ease and countered him quick and then i was ready to go to the ground if i had to but um that was probably the last time i got in somebody's face and said to myself um this could this could go south but i'm ready for it luke okay yeah i haven't had one of those in a long time i haven't had one of those in a long time i was fighting for my family's honor luke all right also because you know you like you're destined for jail one way or the other aren't you no no i try i try to do right by people for the most part. Jail is terrifying, is it not? It's terrifying.

Yeah. The prospect of spending your life there, it's like, wow, I really don't want to do that. That seems awful. I mean, the prospect of spending one night there, Luke, has been usually enough for me to not enter into those territories. Although, you know, we've all done some dumb shit that we probably should have gotten caught for and you know and and have our lives ruined i mean look when you look back for all like your dumbest shit you're so lucky you didn't get handled and then like it was put in the local newspaper and then you're just you're just scarlet lettered the rest of your life right yeah oh yeah there was one time i was uh using marijuana in a park at night. Cause this was,

this was a long time ago. And I think I'd been on the Marine Corps maybe like a year or two or something like that. And, and cops rolled up on me and they didn't arrest me, but they detained me. And they were like, what are you doing here?

I was like smoking weed. They're like, okay, can you go smoke weed in a different park? I was like, why? They're like, so we're an anti gang unit and this is where the gangs hang out and we're waiting to catch one

of them and i was like yeah i think i'm gonna go now they're like what the fuck they actually asked me like what the fuck are you doing and i was like yeah that's a good point i'm probably not gonna make this mistake anymore i was at a uh i was at a fish no i was at a fish concert in like vermont or something. Where was I? And a guy next to me was smoking hash, Luke, which I guess by the technical definition, you can get charged with heroin possession if you get caught with that, right?

I'm not sure how that works, but it is different than weed. It is different. And he threw it under the car as they approached and searched us. And I felt like that was a bullet dodging right there. That was a big moment. That was a big bullet dodging, right? Dude, I picked up my friend after he got a DUI. I had to bail him out of jail and I picked him up.

And then when he got in the car, he was all sad and quiet. And I was like, do you, do you need a ride to the liquor store now? Gotcha, bitch. Yeah. Yeah. gotcha bitch yeah yeah that's that's uh that's that's georgia for you luke that was virginia that was virginia oh yeah yeah virginia is for lovers luke and that's what i am thank you that's like like the clip said like the clip said uh virginia is for lovers but trust this hate here for out-of-towners how about that yeah there you go um luke you're one of my um you're not even from virginia you're from india i'm sorry luke that went nowhere that went nowhere yeah yeah you brought your a material you had all of the uh you had all of the enthusiasm of a 19 year old tasked with accompanying his father on a titanic submarine expedition you know hey dad can we stop at burger king on the way home please yeah

yeah yeah there you go i mean people the food in the food in london and tokyo is inedible we got to go to burger king yeah yeah yeah the the look you know people perished in that so did dale jr on turn four so maybe we can maybe we can show some respect all these years later all right they died painless deaths may we all be so lucky in that sense anyway. Yeah. I hope to die in my sleep like a real man does, Luke. That's the best way you can do it. Dude, you're going to die on like a fucking backyard barbecue.

Someone's going to run over you with a four-wheeler or some shit. I always felt I was destined for an Elvis exit, Luke, on the throne. Just fall over on the throne. No. Dude, yours is're gonna be so much worse you're gonna fall off of your roof and like impale yourself on some kind of garden gnome in the front yard you know this may not surprise you luke but i've fallen off of a ladder three times since i've owned this house and i've owned this house for six years and uh the guy that lived

here before me left behind a really monstrously big ladder. But the base of it that you foot on the ground was like broken and off angles. And, you know, I would still like an idiot go out there and clean the gutters with the thing like, you know, swaying and barely. And look, I've taken some like 20 foot falls off of that. That's not, you know, that's not, I'm not proud of that. Yeah, that's less than ideal. We should go now, though. All right. I don't want to do this anymore thank you mike more mile for being our uh spirit guide on this on this your boy bc uh america guys right we're almost 200 years old right or 300 where are we at how old's america luke yes almost 200 bc that's exactly right that's where it's at i think

yeah all right thank you uh uh would you have any uh thing to say to all of our international uh guests who are like what is this july 4th bullshit yeah that's your cue that's your cue bc can we can we end it now is that am i on fire all right luke we gotta go i gotta figure out why this house is on fire talk to you