MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Islam Makhachev Speaks Out | MMA Weekend Storylines | Kayla Harrison | Ep. 274

Episode Date: March 9, 2022

On episode 274 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian discuss the biggest storylines heading into a packed weekend of combat sports. What should we be looking for at Bellator 276 and UFC Fight Night: Santos... vs. Anakalaev? Kayla Harrison re-signed with the PFL on a multi-year deal. Was this the correct choice for her? Islam Makhachev discussed why the Rafael Dos Anjos fight didn't get done. Was Dana White lying? The boys close out the show with Over/Under and Fan Submissions. (10:10) - MMA Weekend storylines (45:00) - Kayla Harrison (64:15) - Islam Makhachev Speaks (75:00) - Bellator 279 (81:00) - Over/Under Join the Morning Kombat Bracket Challenge at: www.cbssports.com/morningkombatbrackets Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 it's afternoon combat here on Wednesday the 9th of March 2020 and Brian Campbell is in the middle of nowhere hi everyone my name is Luke Thomas I am merely one half of your hosting duo for today's morning combat in the afternoon we are here to accommodate Brian Campbell as he travels to all the many beauties of this world. Is it BC's fault or did BC save the day? I think that's what you have to ask yourself right now, Luke, okay? Yes, but if we were asking a question about whether it's your fault or whether you saved something, it was perilous nonetheless. But Brian Campbell, how are you, good sir?
Starting point is 00:00:59 I know you're in South Dakota. I'm guessing for all the tourism and to see many of the wonders of the world. Is that it? Well, when in Deadwood, Luke, it is good to do like the dead do. So I bought this when I bought my ham and cheese sandwich for lunch in the gift shop, Luke. I got this fine piece of Deadwood merch that I think can match my car and my wallet, Luke. So, yeah, yeah. And probably my skin tone as well, Luke. But I made
Starting point is 00:01:27 it here. To your great surprise, Luke, there aren't a lot of flights from Hartford to Rapid City, but we made it to Deadwood and Friday night show box will be lit. So tune into that, of course. But you know what, Luke? This is the kind of town where the Constitution is written on all the napkins. You know what I mean? It's like the women come like the constitution is written on all the napkins you know what i mean it's like uh you know the the women come with plows it's great people are great though people are fantastic average person at the gas station more or less armed than rambo dude there was a guy an old guy whose job was like to tell you where the rental car was just just i mean outwardly packing the shit out of it with
Starting point is 00:02:05 like the stylized leg holster and i mean you know you remember like you know peak pandemic people be getting like bedazzled masks this guy had like a bedazzled holster luke i mean this is great great country it's barren as shit out here luke oh my god yeah wow i would tell you to go enjoy the uh the the nachos at Chili's, but I don't know if they have Chili's out there. I don't even know what they have. Dude, here's what I know about Deadwood for the 30 minutes I've been here. Every business, including gas stations and corner stores,
Starting point is 00:02:35 has a casino inside of it, and every restaurant is a steakhouse. And I stole those two jokes from Mitch Abramson of Showtime PR, but he's right. He's right on, Luke. He's right on. He certainly is. Well, we have a lot to get to today, BC. Of course, you will be there for Friday's Showbox.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Don't want folks to forget that. But for today's purposes, we actually do have a pretty big weekend slate of MMA fights. UFC, Bellator, LFA1, and some other ones along the way. We have some Kayla Harrison news to discuss. We have some Islam Makhachev news to discuss. Going to play a little over-unders, so it should be a fun one here today. Thumbs up on the video if you're watching on YouTube. Please hit subscribe if you're listening on podcasts.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Give us a nice review on whatever platform you have found us. Of course, you can always email the show. You can email us at, let's see, morningcombat at gmail.com. That's always a great place. Showtime is the label that pays BC. I know that. So you can go to showtime.com, get a 30-day free trial. the label that pays BC. I know that. So you can go to Showtime.com, get a 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it.
Starting point is 00:03:29 If not, you can bounce. And BC, I don't know if there's anything new, new in the store other than we told people we got St. Paddy's. Excuse me. The Irish get mad when you say that. You can say Paddy's Day or St. Patrick's Day. The Irish say you're not supposed to say St. Paddy's Day. That drives them nuts.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah, don't forget, Luke, if you ever did plan on testing me that I am an 8th Irish. People don't talk about that a lot when they size me up, but it is a thing, Luke, and if you go to morningcombat.store right now, plenty of MK Irish-themed Paddy days, so Aaron, lose the
Starting point is 00:04:02 bra already. I mean, right? I mean, come on, right? Yeah. Woo, all right. You're going to get us fired from Deadwood all the way from Deadwood? That's Celtic humor right there, Luke, okay, if you will. Luke, one more thing, though. Our producers really, really wanted to make sure I made this happen. Luke, this Carson Wentz trade for the Redskins,
Starting point is 00:04:24 I mean, things are looking up, bro, you know? I made this happen. Luke, this Carson Wentz trade for the Redskins, I mean, things are looking up, bro. You know? Looking up at the lights. Yeah. It was so funny. I was driving home in traffic yesterday, so I was listening to sports radio,
Starting point is 00:04:40 and they were talking about, this was the Russell Westbrook trade had happened, and if you recall, they had tried to get a few big-name QB like Stafford Stafford was one when he before he went to the Rams that um the commanders tried to make a move for and I think that there was a lot of reasons why he didn't take it one of which was there was like a really the offer wasn't that great they confirmed yesterday that the offer that they had made with Russell Wilson obviously the final offer that they got from Denver was much bigger but the initial offer from the commanders was a bunch of stuff, including three first round
Starting point is 00:05:07 picks. So like they at least had a good starting offer. And Russell Wilson was like, I don't want anything to do with it. And the hosts of the show were like, so wait a second, fellas, if we're giving people at least from a starting position, the kind of starting deal that almost any good team would make, would make, and they don't want to go down this process with us. What does that say about us? And I'm like, right, nobody wants to come here. I guarantee you Carson Wentz didn't even want to come here. The reality is this team sucks, this organization sucks,
Starting point is 00:05:35 everything about it sucks. Carson Wentz is better than Taylor Heineke, but that's it. That's literally all I can say about it. So here's another season of, you know, 7-10 or whatever the fuck they're going to be. I don't know anything about Taylor Heineke, but that does sound like a sissy quarterback name, Luke. I'm sorry. It does. Okay?
Starting point is 00:05:53 His story is cool. I think he played for, like, Norfolk State or whatever, or University of, which one was it? Out there in Norfolk, Virginia. And he didn't make it to the league and all the stuff. He found his way there, and it's cool. But he's a fucking backup. He's a backup. What he is is a backup. Yeah, I bet he
Starting point is 00:06:07 stocked the grocery shelves like Kurt Warner and then found a spiked-haired wife who looks like Mam from Webster. You know what I mean? It's just a classic true middle American story, Luke. Okay? You know what I mean? I'll leave that alone
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Starting point is 00:07:18 College basketball sucks ass. I no longer watch it. And it's for cucks. I mean, really, really has to be honest wow dude that's a i mean that you know i was ready to go and get off the exit with you wherever you were going but that was uh all right there it is yep it's for it's for low t cucks i mean well if you have low t uh you know we are part of the best network that ever covered college basketball luke at cbs sports thank you very much i'm teasing i'm teasing obviously people love college basketball march march
Starting point is 00:07:48 madness is legitimately when i was a drinker i'll say this bc when i was a drinker march madness the first two weekends of march madness those are great days those are fun days all right what's your what's your take then on the famous song luke the ball is tipped oh you mean like one shining moment? You're running for your life. Yeah, man. I mean, it just gets you, right? It just pulls deep.
Starting point is 00:08:10 It's like, Bryce, true. I always look forward to one shining moment. So it should be fun. It should be a fun time. And by the way, BC and I are going to suck at this. So come beat our asses. That sounds weird, but you know what I'm saying. All right, BC. I feel like Hinato Moikano right now.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I took this assignment on Moikano right now. I took this assignment on last minute notice, Luke. It's a big opportunity for me. So I'm willing to leave it all on the show, Luke. Okay. Am I about to beat the bejesus out of you? If you go easy on me in the final round, Luke, I'm coming. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Believe that. All right. Good to know. All right. Topic number one. Let's start things off. We do have a slate of weekend fights to get to. Number one, first and foremost, UFC Fight Night, Santos versus Ankali of BC. Not a lot of discussion about this. There's a little bit of a UFC 272 hangover. I expect that switch to start happening about today. Obviously, by tomorrow, weigh-ins will be on Friday. But we start with the main event, Tiago Santos, excuse me, I'm on the wrong one here. Pardon me, I'm on the wrong one. Tiago Santos taking on Ankhalaev.
Starting point is 00:09:08 BC, when you think about what is at stake in this fight for both competitors, what is it? This is, you know, the gate that separates, you know, whoever gets through it is going to be proven that they are, for the first time or now, or still, among the elite in this game, and the loser will take a big step backwards. And obviously there is a bright ceiling for Ankalayev with the seven-fight win streak if he ends up finding out along with us on Saturday night that he very much is for real. Yeah, he looks to be for real. I mean, the Ozdemir win, the win streak together, the brutality, the dominance. He's a hammer, Luke.
Starting point is 00:09:47 He's putting it together. And it's not like he hasn't tasted defeat before. But it feels like he's coming on. So this, I don't want to say twilight, but second chapter run of whatever's left in Maheta is really the perfect test for us to find out. And obviously, on the flip side, if you're Tiago Santos, you got that Johnny Walker win, which stemmed the tide of that losing streak against elite names. But Luke, you know, that guy found out how great he actually could be on that night against John Jones, despite the really bad
Starting point is 00:10:15 knee injuries. And, you know, he went for it in his moment. And you could argue, as we always do, hey, you know, you could have scored it for him. The knee injury that followed that, he has never been the same. He looked like it against Glover, right? And dropped him. He looked like that spark was back. I hope it's back, Luke, because this guy's a competitor. He makes great fights. If it's back, this is a winnable fight for him.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But if this is a trend that we are now following now, which is, you know, Thiago Santos pushing 40 a little bit of a half step slower, it's going to be a rough night at the office. So crossroads fight, yes, but at the very elite level, Luke, to find out which direction they're going. No doubt about it. They're ranked respectively, Santos and Onkalayev, 5 and 6. So if Onkalayev wins, bumps it probably in all likelihood into the top
Starting point is 00:11:05 five and santos bounces out now that's not the end of the world as you indicated he still has a high position he would still be in relevant fights he would not be necessarily all that far from a title shot but the larger question of course is not what the number would be next to his name for tiago santos if he loses again this would be what four out of his last five with the only win as you indicated being johnny walker which is not nothing but it's not much to keep you not just i guess he would keep something of a relative high number but it wouldn't keep you as like everyone's top of the list of people who they would pencil in or you know that short list about who is really a title threat i think that would firmly remove him from that process this to me for tiago santos if he has
Starting point is 00:11:44 any hope of getting a title shot before he turns 40, you've got to win this one. You've got to win this one. Again, late notice, blah, blah, blah. But to earn it meritocratically, you've got to beat this one. For Ankhalaev, man, he is a freight train. This is a guy we have been spotlighting for some time. A lot of people have.
Starting point is 00:11:59 We have noticed right away how good his boxing is. Overall, game is tremendous. Has a good chin gets hit a little bit not too much so there is a little bit of a window for Tiago Santos but in all likelihood to me the story here is the ascension of Megamed on Kalaya absolutely who is who is one of the one of the most efficient fighters in that division and is on that shortlist bcs I'm sure you agree for a future either title holder or definitely a title contender.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah, I mean, obviously it's a trend that keeps happening, right? There's another Shmesh Factory alum in a prime spot about to take over the top of the divisional rankings and move himself into real title contention. And this guy fits that bill. But I want to ask you this, because I laid out the storyline as sort of twofold, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:46 crossroads fight. Somebody's going to come in. Somebody's going potentially. But in my mind, Luke, would I favor Santos? No, but in my mind,
Starting point is 00:12:54 this is still a winnable fight. Maybe because I'm some, that's a super fan out of nowhere, or, or maybe because I'm not tied in enough. So when you look at the odds, Luke, is this really, you know, you odds, Luke, is this really?
Starting point is 00:13:08 You know, you said, no, the real story is on Goliath, and that's true. He has a bright ceiling if he gets there. But these betting odds make it feel like it's no story at all. At this moment, DraftKings has on Goliath minus 600, Tiago Santos plus 435. Does that surprise you at all, what Vegas is telling you by setting the odds this way? Again again so part of those reasons that the odds are set that way is to induce betting as we all know but an examination of the numbers I think says a fair actually you know what their numbers are
Starting point is 00:13:37 pretty competitive uh but here's the thing for Magomed and Kalayev strikes of sore per per uh per minute right for a light heavyweight. He's just two. Man, that's low. That's low. They don't hit this guy a whole lot. Striking defense is 62%. For a guy like Santos, who is heavy-handed,
Starting point is 00:13:55 how explosive he is, I think it needs to be reconsidered, given the age and given the injury or rehabilitation history, but still certainly obviously a potent striking threat. But for someone who is that diligent and that I should say rather that vigilant about making sure they're in the right positions leading the charge, he does have a good chin when he gets cracked. Yeah, I can see why those odds are the way they are. Also, by the way, he's good for about a takedown per 15 minutes. If if this one goes long you could see two or three of those mixing things up slowing tiago santos down again and also dude you know the thing here about this too maybe i'm overstating things a lot of these guys from the the caucuses mountains they don't it's not like they're not merciful but they
Starting point is 00:14:40 don't have a gear where they really let their foot off the gas. They're strategic, and they are careful about planning, but they're really consistent about staying on the offense. I think what you're going to see here a lot is Santos getting backed up. We'll talk about this on Friday. Santos getting backed up and not really even being in a position, to answer your question, BC, to use his better weapons. That's the kind of thing Ank kalia can do both on the feet and obviously on the ground uh you know i want tiago santos to still have his day but you know
Starting point is 00:15:14 it's i may get sobered up pretty quick saturday night luke his day may be over at this level and and even if it wasn't it still may end up being because on kalia is that good but this is good theater there's a good main event. Look, I'm legitimately fired up for this one. In your co-main event, I share your enthusiasm as well. A Bantamweight co-main event, BC, this one, you're talking about the main event being Crossroads. It is to an extent, or at least in a more limited way. How about this one for Crossroads?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Marlon Marais taking on Song Yedong. Two trains going in very different directions. Marlon Marais hasn't won Yedong. Two trains going in very different directions. Marlon Marais hasn't won a fight since the very controversial split decision over Jose Aldo. So if you're asking when was his last, like, dominant performance, that would be against Rafael Sun Tso in the same year, but February of 2019. So basically three years since he really kind of put it on somebody. Since then he had the loss to Cejudo, the controversial win over Aldo, and then consecutive losses to Sanhagen Font and Diwalish Whealy.
Starting point is 00:16:09 By contrast, BC, Song Yedong has only lost one in his last five, had a draw against Cody Stammen, beat Chito Vera. He did lose to Kyler Phillips. We just saw him recently. He's a hammer. And then he rebounded against Casey Kenney, a very good grinder and then julio arce a talented uh stand-up fighter bc i mean is this it for marlon morais if he loses on saturday is he gone from ufc you know i wonder that i wonder that and i'm quick to want to click on and see his age 33 which you know doesn't freak you out but
Starting point is 00:16:43 okay he's got four losses in recent memory, all against the elite, but he gets stopped in those fights, Luke. And there's always been a thing with Marlon Marais fulfilling his potential of, you know, is he a little bit for as talented as he is and his talent is top end. We've seen it. I mean, we've absolutely, we've seen it, but could he gas out? Could he make a key mistake in a fight? We've seen those types of things play out as maybe the reason holding him back.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Now when you package together for stoppage losses, he may be missing that thing that can potentially hold that all together and try to create that one shiny moment, that run where he legitimately makes a run. Yeah, I think if he loses here, the promotion is well within its right to say, you've now proven on enough occasions of the direction you're heading and how fast. This is a huge fight for Marais. And it's like, if you're Marais given how good Song Yedong seems to be, and by the way, he's only 24, so he may even catch another loss or two on his rise
Starting point is 00:17:41 to figuring out how good he can be. This is going to be a tough test, Luke, because if you're Marais, do you panic and just kind of do a Tyron Woodley versus Luke A type of deal and just go, look, I'm emptying the tank. We'll see what happens. Is it that level of desperation yet? It might be. Luke, it might be.
Starting point is 00:17:56 It genuinely might be. What is your best assessment? Because a lot of times guys run into, you know, the top end of a division and they have to recalibrate or they have injuries and then maybe the wrong kind of style matchup. There's reasons to explain some of the losses around maybe development, maybe what they were doing, but they tend to have at least pockets of rebound. Now, he may have one here, to be clear,
Starting point is 00:18:21 but what is your sense about why he is suffering this way? What I mean is it just looks like since the loss to Cejudo everyone has figured out how to fight him and they just go right to that way they use slightly different things to get there but it's the same general practice and he can't seem to find a way to adjust around it look he likes to fight and so if you can get him off of his of what should be a healthy pace for him and make it a little bit of a scrappy event he's a guy that'll dump his gas tank luke and that's what i'm saying that's been the thing in the past that maybe has you know been the biggest hurdle in the way but when you package enough stoppage defeats then suddenly you know
Starting point is 00:19:02 you have to wonder okay 33 but it's been a ton of fights and you get that many, you know, the punch resistant goes, it goes. Luke, I think there's legitimate questions right now about his punch resistance. And I think he was a very good fighter, but a mistake at the highest level and was never able to figure it out. And now he's grasping potentially to try to put it back together. And I don't think Hupty Dumpty's getting back on that wall, Luke. I don't think so either. For Song Yedong, though, this would be his best win to date.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Again, he's got some good wins, to be sure. And honestly, the Cody Stammen draw, I know Cody Stammen didn't like it, but Cody Stammen's a very quality opponent. Following it up with a win over Chito Vera, those are, again, a respectable draw or a performance in a draw, I should say, and then a very nice win over Marlon Vera those are again a respectable draw or a performance in a draw I should say and then a very nice win over Marlon Vera and then his last two have been great but you beat a guy like Marais and now you're beating the kinds of guys who have been in an orbit that none of his other opponents have been none of his other opponents to my knowledge
Starting point is 00:19:59 have fought for a UFC title have been in that place Mar Marlon Rice, at least for a time, was. You beat a guy like that, you beat someone who was in a place where you've never been before. That is a massive escalation and growth opportunity for a guy who, again, against Arce and against Kenny, has looked the best he's ever looked. If this is Song Yedong's opportunity, if this is what he's been waiting for to graduate through the ranks, this is a hell of an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It is, because this is probably the last time since we're essentially writing his UFC obituary, Marais, with a loss. We don't know what will happen, but this is probably the last time that win's going to mean a lot. And it certainly would mean a lot to where Song Yedong's going. Luke, I want to spin Yedong back at you. I swear I didn't set it up like that, Luke. And just say, look, 24 years old, and we have seen him win and lose. We've seen him get a decision in a close fight against Vera.
Starting point is 00:20:54 That was questionable. Was that the Vera fight, Luke? Am I making that up? Well, the one against, I don't know. Well, which one? For Song Yedong? Yeah, the Stamen fight was the one that was the draw, but I'm not sure. But the Vera fight was the one in a key spot that could have gone either way.
Starting point is 00:21:10 My point is this, Luke, I want to ask you, I mean, how bright, because this Bantamweight division is so stocked with newcomers, old comers, comers, Luke, how good is this kid really? And I hedged it by saying, i think he's still far away from figuring that out but he's had you know mr favor behind him since day one pushing him and saying he's going to be the next big thing have you seen enough flashes of that to have a strong confidence level here's the thing yeah if he was if he was showing what he was showing up at middleweight i'd be like wow yeah this guy is gonna get a title
Starting point is 00:21:45 shot pretty quickly obviously but at bantamweight it's just a murderer's row so you ask me does he shine does he show growth and development does he show um adaptation he's good athlete powerful puncher he sets things up he's a good wrestler yeah he's got all of those things in spades and i'm not here to say that he won't be a title contender but just understand where he's at he's currently ranked 14th so part of what happens here if he beats morais who's ranked 10th it would bump him bump him into the top 10 11 through 15 is edgar o'malley ricky simone song yedong and hafa'el sunsal those are not chumps at 10 it's Marlon Marais, Pedro Munoz, Vera. Again, I think another fight with Vera would be difficult either way.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Dominic Cruz, Marab, Rob Font, Sanhagen, Aldo, Dillashaw, Jan. It's like he has clearly shown he is a fighter of talent. He has clearly shown a capacity for improvement. He is worth taking seriously. But that climb to the top is Kilimanjaro. It's going to take a long time for anybody no one is mowing through that no one I can see there's just too much talent too much parity let's have a lot of confidence in Song Yedong let's have some managed expectations just given what path he is trying to cross yeah that's right it's a very it's a very fair fair
Starting point is 00:23:04 point Luke um I would say that's a very fair point. Luke, I would say there's a few other fights with some decent storylines worth watching here. Anyone jumping out to you more than any other? How about the one right below it? Sadiq Youssef right out here out of Camp Springs, Maryland. He has only had one fight in 2020, and he had the tough Arnold Allen fight in 2021,
Starting point is 00:23:20 but that's it. He really hasn't competed very much. I know he had, I think he had a really bad bout with COVID and probably some fight cancellations to like a lot of fighters. So that has derailed, you know, the normal course of events. I think that's all corrected now, obviously. Dude, I've been a big believer in Sadiq Yusuf. He is a very talented guy, but was a little bit too willing to not use some of his own talents and I think paid for it against Allen who is much more you know adherent to a disciplined way of fighting but Yusuf has all the talent in the world I think to
Starting point is 00:23:52 be a champion frankly in this way guess less I said it I do think he has that the ability whether he'll get there we'll see Kassaris should be somebody that you know I know he has improved dramatically but to me he's a bit of a sort of a litmus test about who can do things in this division and who can't. As much as I believe in Yusuf, that doesn't mean anything. He has to go and do it, so that's an interesting one. Also, his teammate, Tafan Enchukwi, I think is how you pronounce his name, is at the bottom of the card. And a couple of South Americans, Colombia's Sabino Mazo and then Argentina's Guido Canetti will be on this card as well. Yeah, i'm into
Starting point is 00:24:25 that fight the sadiq fight of course and how about some sleeper headlines here luke alex pedeta very quietly gonna make his second ufc walk on here against bruno silva dude this is like fucking rude they could be the co-main event luke dude that's a that fight that was that's the kind of fight i mean they used to go with heavyweights but the spirit of this fight is this is the kind of fight I mean they used to go with heavyweights but the spirit of this fight is this is the kind of fight that opens your UFC on Fox card where they just wanted two guys who they could reliably trust to ram into each other that's exactly what you're going to get we're not going to brawl but you're going to get action from these two Luke love falls fight we're going to we're going to make predictions later in the week but if Padea has a performance in this one like he had in his debut and because this week everybody's asking about Adesanya and of course he had knocked Adesanya out in glory kickboxing and he's talking shit already will he
Starting point is 00:25:15 start to get a Chumaev like you know hype wave pushing him if he does this a second time Alex Padea since making the transition from kickboxing now correct me if I'm wrong in his pro debut it ended beautifully but the first round was a little flattish UFC debut okay sorry his UFC debut it was a little flattish just just the first round right and I think he came up for the second and then he just polished the guy off like it was nothing yeah I don't remember the flap I mean he's 34 years old second, and then he just polished the guy off like it was nothing. Yeah, I don't remember the flab. I mean, he's 34 years old, so he's going to have to move quick to find out how great he can be. But you're talking about November of last year at UFC 268. He made the debut against Andreas Mikulidis.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And Luke, 18 seconds into the second round, flying knee and punches. He laid that MF route violently. I don't remember him looking bad it was just a slow start in the first round am i wrong luke slow start no no let me be clear i'm not saying i thought everyone was oh he looked bad he didn't get going he didn't get going until the second and then once he got going you know that hype train could be picking up real quick because he's with team glover and he's making moves luke also on that main card drew dober terence mckinney that's another banger mckinney on short notice mckinney on short notice after bulldozing foreziam he is uh february 26th yeah he looks to be another guy
Starting point is 00:26:36 this this again sometimes we poo-poo some of these espn plus cards this one looks like a great one to me well luke then you you got Miranda Maverick uh should she be coming back this quickly like this the the split decision loss to Macy Barber then she pretty much got dominated on the ground by Aaron Blanchfield now she's back quick against Sabina Mazzo um she's only 24 but you do have to at least voice that three straight losses at this point is it's gonna look pretty bad Luke I did think she beat who was the one that I thought was controversial was it the Barbara one I thought she had yeah it was the one she had no choice was a pick them on the cards yeah the Sabino Mazzo one
Starting point is 00:27:13 it depends on her style that she adopts here I actually think it's very winnable for Maverick Maverick is a little bit better about in and out and angular striking uh and Mazzo can fight long but it but but as a consequence of being linear and a little bit flat-footed um maverick can win this one but it really will depend on whether she can she can deliver on that game plan which requires like a steady drum beat of attack to do it but i do think she has the capability so it is risky bc but it's a little bit of a calculated risk because the styles i I think, favor Maverick depending on what she shows.
Starting point is 00:27:47 That's what I would say. Also, the guy who filled in last minute against Sean O'Malley with the green hair, Chris Moutinho, he's back on this card. He's taking on Guido Canetti. I'm telling you, this card's got little gems all the way through it. I didn't see the green hair coming out of the undercard. I missed it. I overlooked it, Luke. Yeah, yeah this is one of those what time does that shit start six 6 p.m i gotta i gotta tune in early i'll have to double check the uh start time i'll look in here
Starting point is 00:28:12 a second but let's not forget bc we also have bellator bc check this out you have in your bellator main event of course this will be bellator 276 borich versus Burnell at the family arena in St. Louis Missouri listen to this in your main event you have a 145 fight right Adam Borich versus Mads Burnell Adam Borich is 28 Mads Burnell 28 how many times have we said if you ever see two sort of high level promising young prospects slash contenders in their 20s willing to take on one another including this fighters of significance hello it's headlining the effing card number two versus i'm a number uh i'm not sure i think these guys might be tied for number two in this division they're right behind their their 1a 1b or whatever it is um you got to make time for it you don't see
Starting point is 00:29:01 a lot of young very promising contenders crossing paths this early in their career even in mma this one has action written all over oh hell yeah and and you know it's a straight up number one contender about the winner gets the winner of the april what 15th rematch pitbull mckee to luke is that at friday april 15th did i get that correct i believe you did um look the stakes are high Burnell as you've talked about before you know 7-0 since leaving the UFC and 3-0 under the Bellator banner Luke he's figured out what it did we talk a lot more about Boric on this side because you know Rashad used to talk him up he looked great coming in he blew away Pico he he's sort of figured himself out and is in this spot the right time but Luke would you argue that Burnell is coming on a little bit more right now
Starting point is 00:29:47 in terms of who's entering with more momentum? Relative to Boric, you mean? Yes. Yes. Yes. Both of them have tasted a little bit of a wake-up call about, yes, they're good, but there's a lot of things in your game that are not good yet that need to be for you to really go as far as you possibly can.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And so they've all had to reset. You indicated since leaving UFC, he's just, for the case of Burnell, done amazing things. And obviously Borch had a great win over Pico, but he kind of got run over by Darian Caldwell. So they've all got some things to work on. And I do think Burnell is a little bit more battle-tested against better opposition.
Starting point is 00:30:31 He is coming in off that win over Emmanuel Sanchez, whereas Boric has a good win over a very, very tough Jeremy Kennedy. But I wouldn't put that on the exact same level. To me, I would say Emmanuel Sanchez. I think you would agree, right? In that 145 division, obviously your me, I would say Emmanuel Sanchez. I think you would agree, right? In that 145 division, obviously your champ, A.J. McKee, then you have Pitbull.
Starting point is 00:30:52 You know, you could argue who's there, but I would maybe say, honestly, Emmanuel Sanchez right after that. So to me, more momentum, I don't know. But done a little bit better work against somewhat better opposition, yes, yes, I would say that. That win over Sanchez for Mads Bernal, I think trumps anything in terms of comparing these two and the fact that it's seven in a row. But, you know, Boric blew away Pico,
Starting point is 00:31:16 gets a win over the husk of Pat Curran, then beats Mike Hamill, Eric Sanchez, and Jeremy Kennedy after the Caldwell loss. He has put it back together, Luke. He's really good at 17-1 Boric. And what is he, still just 28 years old? Yeah. Man, this is what you want.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Like you mentioned, two guys in their prime, both on a great streak. Let's figure it out. And, well, I mean, huge stakes for the winner here, Luke, unless this Pitbull-McKee-2 rematch is such an instant classic, Luke, and gives us all the answers to the questions we had that their first meeting just didn't deliver because McKee was that sensational in, what, a minute and a half? It felt like, for all we know, we could see a trilogy.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I always say that, Luke, but when two guys are that evenly matched and it's that spectacular of a rematch, you've got to leave open sometimes you got to go right back to the well so well here's the thing this is why I agree with you it's like look Boric is amazing 28 years old Mads Brunel amazing 28 years old they're in the main event for a reason they might get a title shot with a victory as you indicated here's what I want to see though you might get the title shot by virtue of this being a good win and the placement in the division but you got to show something in this fight that would make you believe you could beat either guy whoever wins like as it stands would I favor Boric to beat either Pitbull or AJ McKee I
Starting point is 00:32:36 would not as it stands would I favor Mads Brunel to beat Pitbull or AJ McKee I would not after Saturday or after Friday anyway excuse me me, Saturday, March 22nd, after Saturday, that might change depending on what they show. Probably not overnight, but what I'm saying is it's not just beating a good opponent. You gotta show something that makes you think,
Starting point is 00:32:56 wow, this guy might have a chance against whoever the champ may be. That's on the line here too. It's like, hey, Lauren Murphy, we love you, but your plan A, B, C, and D is not going to work against Shevchenko. So we can't have you go in there just trying to be yourself. We need you to find some spectacular shit hidden in there. Hey, Mads Bernal and Boric, man, wow us here.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Show us that you are chasing that damn brass ring, Luke, okay? You know what I'm saying? Luke, I got brass ones, okay? You know what I'm saying? Luke, I got brass ones, bro. All right? You know what I mean? I mean, there are a few times that you've got unbathed ones. That's what you've got. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:33 All right, let's co-main event. Listen, man, I'm not going to lie to the audience about this one. Phil Davis and Julius Angliscus are good fighters. Phil Davis is a very good fighter. BC, I'm not. We have a responsibility. I'm telling you that we're going to talk about other good fights on this card that main event is a is a no bs winner but davis versus anglicis has an extremely high probability of being very boring true or
Starting point is 00:33:55 false it styles wise it has that potential yes but we do want to find out something luke phil davis is 37 years old but yet he's 6-2 in his last eight, and those only two losses came against current champion Vadim Nemkov, and one of them, you know, both close decisions. One of them, I believe, a split decision the first time around. So Phil can frustrate, Luke, and he can frustrate from the standpoint of controlling distance to give his teammates hell and never allowing them to really get clean looks at him. And he can frustrate us because, look, I always feel like if he just did a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:34:31 he could climb over that hill that he always seems to level out at. So this is a, in some ways, a get well. I mean, Julius Anglicus came into this tournament, the Grand Prix last minute, you know, went in there, was hungry, went after it, came up empty. But this is, okay, Phil Davis, if you're still of this elite, if we're still going to continue in this conversation, come out here and do this to Angliscus. Is it going to blow you away? I don't know, Luke. If I'm Julius Angliscus, though, I got to get Phil Davis off script. I can't spend half the time on my back. I can't be at the end of his jab.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I got to get into that clinch and I got to figure out that, look, I had a great opportunity, all being on short notice last time when he was the alternate that filled in. Now he has a no excuses opportunity, a full camp. Is Anglicus ready for this kind of smoke, Luke? Those are the storylines coming in, but I know i didn't say enough there to to really you know get you fired up luke okay this is gonna have to be a thing where they win you over on the night luke they're gonna have to come through that screen and grab you and pull you in i have a strong uh uh spidey sense that fight is going to get epically booed uh it doesn't mean it's a bad fight doesn't mean it's a fight that shouldn't happen. That's not my argument. I just feel like the way in which
Starting point is 00:35:46 these two match up. Actually, you know what? There's an exception to that. It could prove one way or the other, actually, that one guy is better. My hunch is it's possible that Davis is actually much better than Ingliscus and therefore will be able to be in control and then potentially even stop
Starting point is 00:36:02 him because there could be enough of a gap. But honestly, I don't know how true that is because Angliscus, he doesn't have the most potent offense in the world, but he does have pretty good defense. This one's going to be, this one, not that fun. It's not that fun. Not that fun. Yeah, Davis is a minus 305 on DraftKings as the favorite.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And Luke, in that main event, for anyone wondering, Mads Brunel, minus 220 favorite on DraftKings, plus 180. Adam Boric, which does seem about right, meaning everything we said right there. Luke, there's two other fights of offering, you know, proving ground opportunities. That middleweight bout, John Salter against a streaking Johnny Eblen, and then that lightweight bout opening the main card of J Wilson against Godsey Rabotinov are are you would agreeance that these are opportunities for Ebelin and Wilson particularly to to show us what they're really
Starting point is 00:36:57 all about in the rankings so Ebelin out of ATT taking on John Salter Salter's a guy who's been around that Bellator cage a long time. Good grappler, well-rounded, can wrestle and can grapple, can mix the two. Johnny Eblen does that as well, so this is going to be a test of how well can he do that, but he is undefeated. He's a big, strong kid.
Starting point is 00:37:17 No one's been paying attention to him. I shouted him out after his last win on this show. I'm telling you, if you guys don't know who Johnny Eblen is, he has a tough fight in Salter, but if he gets past it, he's probably going to start moving to the top of that middleweight division very, very quickly, right? J.J. Wilson, another guy out of New Zealand. I saw him training with Justin Flores,
Starting point is 00:37:34 who is a grappling coach to many MMA fighters. Keenan Cornelius was for a time, Ronda Rousey, and now a lot of guys, Patty Pimblitt. He was training with J.J. Wilson as well. So J.J. Wilson is putting in work with good people, good coaches. He has shown a ton of promise. Undefeated. I like everything about
Starting point is 00:37:54 him. And Godzie Rabotinov is a fucking hammer. So this is another great fight that's just really, this is what I mean. Like, I don't love the co-main event on this card, candidly, but there's a lot of other ones. BC, I can't believe you didn't spotlight Deanna Avsaragova. Like, I don't love the co-main event on this card, candidly, but there's a lot of other ones. BC, I can't believe you didn't spotlight Deanna Avsaragova. Well, I was going to ask you.
Starting point is 00:38:13 The women's flyweight, the 20, what, 23-year-old, she's 4-0, 2-0 in the Bellator cage. She'll be taking on Kara Batara. But, Luke, this native of Russia tends to light up the IG, if you know what I mean. That's what I've heard, Luke. Yes, I've heard rumors. I wouldn't know anything about that, BC.
Starting point is 00:38:29 This is something I would never look into. True or false, Bellator implores some of those employees. Excuse me. They seem to have a, you know, I'll say this. That part of the talent scouting department is in full swing. Are we secretly employed in that role? Luke, Cody Law has made some noise winning all five of his pro fights. All five have come under the Bellator flag.
Starting point is 00:38:54 He's got a featherweight bout against James Adcock. Should we be paying attention to Cody Law yet, though? Yeah, you should be. He just fought at Bellator last was 271, I think. He looks to be just another one of these guys. Remember, we've talked about Bellator is a little bit different than UFC. They do feature, obviously, a lot of high-end talent, but they can also get high-end talent from composite sports and give them a place to start and really slowly work their way up.
Starting point is 00:39:19 UFC can't and doesn't really offer that because they're much more exclusively about just the elite end of the sport. And so Bellator, while it doesn't have all of those many names and those resources, it does have a comparative advantage by what it can offer younger prospects. Dylan Dennis has totally blown that, but Cody Law has not. He has made full use of it, and every time he goes out there, he gets a little bit better and a little bit better. If you at these fights bc they look like opponents he would get on the regional
Starting point is 00:39:49 scene but bellator would probably tell you that's on purpose those are the fights he should be getting in we just put it under our banner so they can have a long-term i think relationship with him cody law is a guy you would want to pay attention to 100 look got to do say one more thing. I got to put the BC stamp of the super sloppy, special, secret, under-the-radar fight that no one's talking about. This prelim YouTube and Pluto TV main event on this card, the featured prelim bout, light heavyweights Alex Easy Polizzi
Starting point is 00:40:20 and Jose Augusto, who was the dude who filled in last minute for Romero and went in there against Rumble Johnson in the Grand Prix, and he went for it. He had Rumble on the rocks a couple times, Luke. This is going to be a sloppy special one, I'm telling you. Okay? So make sure you don't miss that shit, Luke. I'm telling you, live from Deadwood.
Starting point is 00:40:41 We got to get an alarm on the show where it's like BC's slop alert. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And like get graphics where like there's like chili dogs. We know you like them extra sloppy. You know, lady, you're scaring us, all right? Yeah, yeah. We need some graphics for that.
Starting point is 00:40:56 We need BC's official slop counter. Yeah, there are some other good ones. By the way, Undefeated Romero Cotton, who's a standout in the wrestling world, he's on this card as well. BC, very quickly, just want to make a note of it so that we are being fair. way undefeated romero cotton who's a standout in the wrestling world he's on this card as well bc very quickly just want to make a note of it so that the you know we we we are being fair uh let's see one has an event it's called lights out it'll be obviously in singapore it has five mma bouts three kickboxing bouts and then two m and muay thai bouts we won't get into that part but there
Starting point is 00:41:21 are two titles on the line bc ton lee your existing 155 champion taking on gary tonin uh one of the john danaher death squad guys and then also in the co-main event bibiana fernandez john lineker tonin is a guy a lot of americans have had a lot of people have had their eyes on his last fight was let's see it was in 2020 he hasn't competed since then this is a huge task for him any expectations here uh no um luke i'm not going to do the risen bit all over again but this this fell below my radar in fact when you say they're calling the pay-per-view lights out that's that's where my cable and setup will be when this card airs luke okay enough why should i care luke go ahead all right and then one last word for uh Fight Pass customers there will be a LFA card in Brazil in Brazil and in your main event Jonas uh Bill Arino who by the way won
Starting point is 00:42:14 with a spinning wheel kick on Contender Series and I guess didn't get a contract he's going to be headlining in this one so I teed it up for you to talk about it you didn't do it Luke do you care about Eagle FC 46 this weekend here's the thing I'm happy to see the return of Kevin Lee and I'm always happy to see another promoter join the mix and give fighters a chance and they're on a different network like in that sense I am excited about it you know I don't know if Diego should be fighting bro I really don't so it's it's it goes down night. I think it's a 6 p.m. Eastern start, Luke. I don't know where you can find it, Eagle FC. Maybe on that website that it was on last time.
Starting point is 00:42:52 What was that? FLX or something? Yeah, some shit like that. But, hey, Ray Borg, Ricky Bandejas at Bantam. I don't hate that shit, Luke, okay? And then there's a bunch of future Smash Factory opponents. Hany Marks makes his return on this undercard, Luke, okay? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I mean, I can skip that. Against Reggie Pena, all right? But the return of Kevin Lee, I am excited to see how he looks. Yeah, future champion, Luke. Future Eagle FC champion. All right. Let's go to topic number two here bc if we can we turn now to kayla harrison so the pfl put out a big press release they have re-signed her to what they
Starting point is 00:43:32 call a multi-year agreement now the terms of this were not clear here is what we understand the ufc did make an offer but apparently it wasn't a very good offer it does turn out that bellator made a very good offer to her, but for folks who may not know, what often happens with these MMA fighters is they'll have a place where if they get an offer, they're allowed to field offers at certain intervals from other organizations, but the organization from which they originally came often has the ability to match an offer if they want to. And that's exactly what happened here. Bellator did make an offer, it turns out, for Kayla Services,
Starting point is 00:44:09 and a good one at that, apparently. But PFL matched it. BC, she got blocked by Cyborg on Twitter. But PFL is saying part of this deal is that they're going to go and move heaven and earth to find a way to get Kayla to fight the big fights that she can. Julia Budd left Bellator for PFL, so that will be a big fight for her in PFL if they can make it, and I'm sure they will. And they announced a super fight kind of showcase division where fighters of all different—
Starting point is 00:44:36 I was going to get to that, which is going to go on pay-per-view and will feature, as you can imagine, the ladies who could move the units in that space. How do you feel about Kayla not going to UFC not going to Bellator staying at PFL yeah so we've said from the beginning that PFL was the most likely end destination just because Luke I always assumed they had the opportunity to produce the most money for her and it's not just the one million dollar opportunity with their seasonal tournament format. But, you know, they've got the ESPN contract. They've got a lot of celebrity investors. You would think if somebody can dig deep and say,
Starting point is 00:45:12 this is the face of our brand. And right now you could very easily argue that Kayla Harrison is the face of the PFL. It seemed like that was going to be the end goal. And credit to Scott Coker and Bellator for making an effort. They obviously, outside of the UFC, Seemed like that was going to be the end goal, and credit to Scott Coker and Bellator for making an effort. They obviously, outside of the UFC, have by far, by far the best fight possible for Harrison if she could fight Cyborg. But there are potential layers to this.
Starting point is 00:45:39 So straight up, did Kayla end up doing what was best for her financially? I think so in the end. And she's 31 years old, Luke, which is certainly not panic mode, but it is let's find out now how great you can be mode. I have to say from that standpoint, I'm disappointed. I'm not disappointed with Kayla. I'm disappointed as a fan that this turned out to be a tease. Her showing up in the UFC, sitting front row for Peña Nunes and knowing that she'd gone back and forth with the other two big suitors, Bellator and UFC. And to just put her right back where she is, okay, new season, but I like a Julia Budd fight for sure,
Starting point is 00:46:15 but also Budd moving up in weight to lightweight, you know, and it's also who else you got outside of there. Megan Anderson said she's not coming through that door. So a little disappointed, Luke, in less. And this is again not disappointed kayla i don't luke the ufc they have leverage over her right because she's got to go there eventually so it's easy for them to say well we're not going to overpay you now if you want to do it come earn it and so from that standpoint i have no no problem with Kayla signing the biggest check available. But something's got to be with this cryptic sort of thing in the press release about she'll be the face of this new PFL pay-per-view division. allows for partnerships with other promotions like Bellator to try to make this Kayla Cyborg
Starting point is 00:47:08 fight happen, then this could get interesting. Because then it goes beyond Kayla. It goes to, could we have some kind of scenario where everybody who's not UFC gets together and does some type of super cards or majors? Now, could something like that fall apart before it even starts? starts yeah in a million ways it's as unlikely as anything luke and pro wrestling remember in the 80s when vince mcman and wwf went global and everybody else tried to create these super clashes and they all screwed each other out of the money and it never quite worked out no i don't i don't remember that yeah i'm sure you don't i feel luke like i said to you on this show a couple episodes ago you know could
Starting point is 00:47:44 the ufc ever get in the way of something like that happening since PFL airs on ESPN? I wonder. But, Luke, if this is not leading to Kayla versus Cyborg within the next year, which Kayla's manager, Ali Abdelaziz, I saw Aaron Bronstetter quote tweeting some of the things he got from an interview with him. That seems to be the plan. Cyborg, I believe Luke has one fight left under Bella Tortier, or if not, you know, only a couple left. Cyborg has
Starting point is 00:48:11 tweeted and teased that she's close to becoming a free agent. If this is all about, let's just create a structure in place where Chris Cyborg can come over for one or two fights when she's a free agent, and we can finally give Kayla at 31 a true test of where she's at then Luke at the end of the day as a fan you're going to be all in if this opens the door for promotion versus you know versus promotion pay-per-views then as a fan of course you're all in but if this is just Kayla you know slicing through the the wheat fields with the sickle with no resistance next contract. She's going to end up at the UFC because she's going to have to,
Starting point is 00:48:47 because that's how she's wired. She wants to find out how great she can be Luke. So I don't quite understand your argument. Are you saying she could have signed another deal? She couldn't have signed another deal. This was it. Because, but because are you saying because PFL had matching rights?
Starting point is 00:49:02 I mean, she did receive offers from, from the UFC. I'm saying, so are you saying to PFL had matching rights, I mean, she did receive offers from the UFC. I'm saying, so are you saying to me that contractually, even if she accepted the UFC offer, if PFL matched it, then that's end of story? Correct. So you're saying inevitably. That's exactly how it works. So you're saying inevitably she had no other choice.
Starting point is 00:49:23 This is where she's at. It was either sign this deal or you could just could just retire yeah there's no choice then i am counter saying to you that that most of my argument still holds up but my key question is what is the cryptic pay-per-view shit about are they going to wait outside yes i'm so glad you brought this up i'm so glad you brought this up you know what's's so funny, dude? I remember when Bjorn Rebny announced something very similar to this with Bellator in 2014, and it was months, not even, weeks after he got the axe, and they brought in Scott Coker. I'll never forget that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I was like, so wait a second. Now, PFL is a little bit different. Bjorn Rebny was, you know, he had a hard-on for tournaments. I mean, he was convinced the matchmaker model is shit the tournament model is the only thing that matters and they were it was like the zone with pay-per-view remember that pay-per-view is dead bro it's like well then why are you doing pay-per-view um they were Bjorn Rebny was like that with tournaments and so when he made this thing this idea where it's like okay if you've been in a tournament or if you've won a
Starting point is 00:50:22 tournament I forget what the rules were you could be in this pool of fighters that don't have to do that and you can just fight each other. And we're like, so you're just going to do the matchmaker model now? PFL has never adhered to that same kind of sensibility, but it was weird that they're announcing the exact same thing and for really the exact same reasons. The tournaments are tough and they're valuable and they're awesome, but you have certain people that either don't want to go in them again
Starting point is 00:50:44 or don't need to go in them again or don't need to go in them again or you know pick pick your choice there Kayla Harrison I guess you know at this point doesn't really have a choice if they can't get her a super fight who the fuck else are they gonna fight so they have to do it but I just don't know how feasible it is here we see Aaron Bronstetter's tweet the PFL are launching a new pay-per-view super fight division said the CEO Peter Murray quote where star MMA fighters will compete on a global stage against the best fighters in the sport, which is very generic. He's not saying a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Dude, this is almost, not quite, it's different, but it's very similar to the very thing that got Bjorn Rebny fired from Bellator because it undercuts what they're all about. I think PFL can be more nimble, and I think they can live in two worlds, but it tells you that their existing structure literally isn't enough for them to retain top talent. They have to change things maybe for the better, but they definitely have to change.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Well, to be fair, uh, Bronsted are tweeting that Ali Abdelaziz told them that this deal makes Kayla the highest paid female in women's MMA history. Now we don't have proof of that Luke, you know, in, in MMA history, excuse me. But, you know, we're going to assume that they had to kick in. I mean, you know, because Bellator probably gave them a great offer. PFL had to really kick it in. So I know Kayla's getting taken care of financially. But, Luke, the same question I spun at you when you were talking about Bjorn,
Starting point is 00:52:00 I didn't get an answer from you. Do you think this pay-per-view division is set up with the hope that other promotions will either send over their talent in exchange for something, or this could be some type of double promotion, co-promotion pay-per-view, or do you believe that this is set up as a, just a foundation for luring Chris Hyborg when her deal is up with Bellator? Because as you know and that's why I sort of started that whole rant of saying you know for Kayla this is probably the best decision in the end but as a fan unless she's fighting Cyborg soon this this this is okay we're still waiting for her to finally you know match herself against the very best let me just spin
Starting point is 00:52:44 this around a little bit I thought how about you answer my question well i i will i will but i want to i want to answer it in this way this is the thing i keep coming back to i'm with you it's like who's she gonna fight if they can't you know you make out you're making vague promises to get kayla a fight on pay-per-view with the super fight division not just her other ones you know we'll see who gets put on that designation but here's just the thing. It goes back to me about the UFC thing. It's like, listen, if Bellator made her an offer and PFL had matching rights and they matched it, they met every letter of it, that's good for Kayla because that means she got PFL to pay more
Starting point is 00:53:15 than they ordinarily would have by virtue of a Bellator offer. This is categorically a good thing. Fighter pay matters because that's the game. It's prize fighting. Someone fights, someone gets money for it. That pay matters because that's the game. It's prize fighting. Someone fights, someone gets money for it. That's it. That's what this is about. So if you can get a huge amount of it
Starting point is 00:53:30 for a relatively easy schedule, in many ways, you've already won. But for, you know, customer satisfaction and also for her own sake, we're not getting here. But I answer it this way. On the UFC side, I was thinking about this. Now, obviously, the situations situations are in many ways very very different I'm not making a total comparison it is hard for me to believe that as difficult
Starting point is 00:53:54 as it is to find fights for Kayla Harrison even at 145 that that's actually any harder than it was for them to match make CM Punk and And he got a couple cracks at it. Now, at Grant, he has a much higher threshold for pay-per-view returns, although that didn't work out either. But I get, from a strategy standpoint, you could at least pencil that in. But dude, we're talking about the greatest judoka in American history. No man has a gold medal. Y'all, she's got two of them.
Starting point is 00:54:23 It's not even close. This is a next- level athlete. She can't get a crack in the UFC during the middle of her prime because they wanted to cheap out. And I understand the mechanics of it, BC. They don't have to pay for it. I grant, they don't have to do anything that they don't want to do. I just think it says a lot about the business that people are talking about how hard it is for her to make fights. Dudes, they could make fights for her if they really wanted to they may not be the best fights but what is she going to get a pfl that is dramatically better unless cyborg either comes over or they make some kind of co-promotion well the ufc angle here is a little bit unexplored well no i mean
Starting point is 00:54:59 look to get the most out of her you'd have to bring her in kayla to the ufc and you have to adopt my idea of women's heavyweight and open in kayla to the ufc and you have to adopt my idea of women's heavyweight and open up the weight class a little bit and then you have any number of huge fights to make even if they didn't do that and they said look you've got to cut to 145 twice a year for us you still could make some pretty big fights and we're going to find out right away if that happened how great kayla is and maybe cyborg ends up becoming a free agent going back to ufc although there's hurdles there we don't know that but my question to you never got answered luke sorry because we don't have answers that was a cryptic pay-per-view announcement but within that
Starting point is 00:55:35 cryptic announcement is it more likely in your eyes that pfl's plan and hope is that cyborg becomes a free agent very shortly in signs with them or that PFL can lure Bellator into some type of super fight card co-promotion thing in which fighters from both promotions fight against each other. Is that a possibility? Or do you think this is more about let's entrench Kayla where she is now and hope that anyone non-UFC will come this way and we'll make pay-per-view fights? So what I would say is I find the idea of Kayla leaving Scott Coker to join PFL, sorry, the idea of, yes, the idea of Cyborg leaving Scott Coker to go fight Kayla in PFL,
Starting point is 00:56:20 I find that certainly possible. It is possible. I find it very unlikely. She's been working with Scott Coker for almost the entirety of her career, certainly in major parts of the beginning and major parts now with obviously a little bit of UFC in between, but they have a very, very good relationship and Scott Coker understands Cyborg. They just work really well together from what I can tell. Also, it should be noted, well, I'll say this. So to me, the idea of her going over there, I just, yes, it could happen.
Starting point is 00:56:52 It seems unlikely. You asked about co-promotion. Folks seem to think this is some silly idea. It's really not. The UFC, granted, they co-promoted with Mayweather for Conor Mayweather, but okay, we all agree that's a really weird, very one-off. Expecting the UFC to co-promote seems like maybe a bridge too far, but the sub-UFC level, your Bellator, your One, your PFLs, there are a lot of opportunities these guys aren't exploring. And if folks are asking, well, who would want to do it? Strikeforce,
Starting point is 00:57:19 under Scott Coker, partnered with M1, partnered with R ryzen partnered with elite xc even briefly to put on one of their fights um partnered with dream that scott coker has a long history of partnering yes more predominantly with japanese promotions but working with uh other promoters who have some elite talents to make some things work it's time to put your put that history of good work to use now. Everyone thinks that if a promotion co-promotes with another promoter, it's a zero-sum game. There has to be a loser. And it is true, BC, that if you look on some of the old one cards, even from 2019, they had Chuteau versus Pancrae's fights on the card listed as like that. And Chuteau and Pancrae have been decades-old so you can you can put
Starting point is 00:58:05 fights like that but you don't have to you don't have to put anyone's belt on the line you can put a super cup whatever the fuck you want to call it trophy on the line you could have one fight right your main event is bellator versus whoever cyborg versus kayla and then other fights on there don't have to be that way or you can have other contracts where you know it's one side is uh if someone loses they get a rematch on the other side or there are there are arrangements though what i'm trying to point out here is there are numerous arrangements that could be made to make this work it is up to the promoters to do things that they haven't done in a while and start shaking hands across the aisle because you can make really really good mma if you combine the sub ufc elements together I mean it's a fan dream it
Starting point is 00:58:47 would be it would be incredible now here's the quote one more from Ali to Aaron Bronstetter I'm 100% sure that a fight with Cyborg will happen either at the end of this year or early next year the only one who can prevent it is Cyborg end quote I think best scenario for fans is some kind of, I mean, look, best scenario for fans is that dream scenario we just talked about of we'll take the four biggest Bellator stars, you take the four biggest PFL stars, we'll do some super card, and hopefully UFC and ESPN won't get in the way of it, and we'll do it on pay-per-view. If not, a home-and-home series, two-fight deal, Cyborg versus Kayla Harrison, right? One on ESPN pay-per-view, one on CBS for all I know, right? Showtime pay-per-view, whatever you want to do.
Starting point is 00:59:30 By the way, hold on. You could change weight classes. You could have one in the PFL cage, one in the rounded Bellator cage. There's a lot of ways you could do that. Absolutely. But the point is, as fans, for this deal to really make us happy and excited and make the most sense for Kayla's character arc, those Ali quotes have to be true.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Kayla Harrison needs to fight Chris Cyborg within the next 12 months to really, because Luke, that's the last big hurdle. If she gets by that and gets by it, you know, demonstratively, destructively, if Kayla Harrison finishes Cyborg, right? Like maybe not as quick and dynamite as Amanda Nunes
Starting point is 01:00:06 as dominant I mean that was just mind-blowing but if she does that this is the last deal that she's not going to be in the UFC Luke because she's going to have that air to her like she might be the one she might be the new hope episode four she might be the one from Tatooine the greatest female this sport has ever seen Luke Luke. And, you know, maybe the way this was set up with PFL always having matching rights, unless UFC was just going to offer something that PFL could never afford, then this was always going to end this way. Maybe that's the case. But next deal, she's the female Brock Lesnar for the UFC if she's as good as she thinks she is and that we think she might have the chance of
Starting point is 01:00:45 becoming Luke and that's why I love that idea of women's heavyweight so much because you're opening the pool for every fight to be a must-see fight because they're all going to be names one after another against the mighty Kayla Harrison it's going to feel like Rousey a little bit it's going to feel like Lesnar a little bit Luke there's some big money to be made for everybody but it won't happen for a couple years we don't know the specifics of this Caleb BFL deal, but you got to, I mean, it's at least one year, right? Luke, at least. No, they called it multi-year. They called it multi-year. Okay. So do you think it's, let's say two years, I don't know the options,
Starting point is 01:01:15 but let's say two years, let's say in that two years, she beats Cyborg and Julia Budden, whoever else it's time, Luke 33, it's time. I agree. I agree. I hope, I hope the promoters out there really understand what they're not doing, and they're just leaving fans high and dry. But there's just a lot of creative possibilities that no one seems to be willing to make, and I would like to see somebody, somebody, somebody, try something a little bit different.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Luke, is it possible that UFC knew about this clause of the matching and that was sort of part of why they they didn't take it monster seriously i still feel like them giving her that ticket in the front row for nuna's pena shows how serious they were they but here's the thing after amanda loses maybe they're like their own internal dialogue was like oh right well i don't want to pay i mean that was the what we wanted now we can't so why am i going to pay. I mean, that was what we wanted. Now we can't. So why am I going to pay? There could be a lot of reasons why it went the way that it did, to your point.
Starting point is 01:02:10 But I guess we'll have to see. I guess we'll have to see. I'll say this. If PFL and Eagle or PFL and Bellator can make a deal, I'm willing to pay for it just to encourage promoters to start trying things. Because the siloing off of Worlds, it's fine, but it could be so much better. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:28 All right. I mean, what does PFL have to offer for us? Kevin Lee and Ray Borg? I'll take it, Luke. Okay, I'll take it. You mean Eagle. All right. Let's talk about Islam Makachev, BC.
Starting point is 01:02:37 So he did an interview with our colleague, Brett Okamoto, a few different pieces with it. He's not our colleague, Luke, but he's our friend. Okay? So say that right. Okay? And at the MMA Awards, he was our friend, okay? So say that right, okay? And at the MMA Awards, he was our friend who had had a lot to drink.
Starting point is 01:02:49 He was drunk as a skunk, Luke. I was like, Brett, is your cologne vodka? Like, what are we doing here, guy? I can smell you from here. Alright, I'm teasing. Introducing the new McSpicy from McDonald's. It looks like a regular chicken sandwich, but it's actually can smell you from here all right i'm teasing introducing the new mcspicy from mcdonald's
Starting point is 01:03:05 it looks like a regular chicken sandwich but it's actually a spicy chicken sandwich mcspicy consider yourself warned limited time only at participating mcdonald's in canada let's talk about a few different things he mentioned in the interview i watched it before the show he gets right to it brett does about what happened with rda because he did tweet out that he wanted it they went back and forth and then dana says i went to sleep then i wake up the next day and the fight fell through i you know blah blah blah he said islam didn't want it islam tells brett well i did want it i explicitly went out of no one called me he said i called ali i called told ali you call ufc right I want it. And he said he had made a little condition that UFC didn't want to meet. RDA said it was because he wanted a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Islam says it's not true. BC, my hunch is what Islam wanted was some money for short notice turnaround. He told Brett Okamoto he had canceled his vacation. He was actually in the middle of vacation. He canceled everything to go to Vegas and make this fight happen. He probably wanted to be financially compensated for it. And UFCc was like yeah no we don't do that here so they just said oh he turned it down fair unfair uh somebody's lying here luke somebody's lying and you know i think we know knee-jerk who we think is lying so first of all i was hoping that that
Starting point is 01:04:22 million dollars was true i even even tweeted about it. Why? Because although it's aggressive, this is finally the UFC fighters, you know, digging the line back in the sand and saying, this is what I'm worth. Are you going to get it? Well, no, not now, but at least you're doing that. I believe when I see Islam come out and be like, no, I never said a million dollars. So Luke, he was very cryptic about whatever that thing was that he wanted, that very small thing.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Some people have speculated that it was a guaranteed title shot, which I think a win there would have given him that anyway. And I think he deserves it right now, although, you know, Dana's framing it as you turned it down, you lose this opportunity, which is, it's just bullshit, Luke. But I think also, you know, when you're in the spot and you're Islam Mahachev, I don't know, Luke, it just feels like there's forces against him making this giant leap of success to happen.
Starting point is 01:05:18 You know what I mean? It feels like there's extra hurdles. What do you mean by that? I'm just curious. It could just be a Conor thing. thing like we got connor coming back let's let's see the lay of the land first we got dana openly saying i don't know you know it depends on who's champion if olivera wants it but this seems to me if we believe that dana's lying and again the truth could be in the middle it usually is right but but but we've also seen have have we not seen Dana White and the UFC publicly lie about how things went down?
Starting point is 01:05:48 We've seen it time and again, Luke, okay? So you have to keep that in perspective. But, yes, this looks to me like a calculated effort to keep Islam, you know, stiff-armed and at bay. Not just like, let's keep him at bay so we don't have to pay him, but let's open the door for McGregor first to come back. That's just what it feels like luke i love the fact that um that he's coming back this hard though and saying you know no i i never turned it down and you know why why dana why look it it looks really bad i mean this it's fighter versus promoter all over again it just it seems it it feels very transparent here do you believe listen islam as
Starting point is 01:06:25 much as i do listen it's entirely possible here's my only point it is entirely possible that both sides making unreasonable demands or expectations islam came in with some demand that he knew uh you know ufc had a very little chance of happening he didn't frame it that way he thought it was very easy for them to do. But I'm just saying, could be that. And UFC could be like, yeah, we don't pay fighters to do shit like this. So, no. Or we're going to wait on McGregor or whatever the situation may be.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Okay. I'm not unsympathetic to that reality. But the only thing I want the folks at home to understand is, you've got to understand something. I'm not making this up. When Tito got replaced by Rich Franklin, the ultimate fighter, Dana White openly lied on the record. And then when he was called on, it was like, yeah, who cares? You can hold me to it or don't.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Like, I don't care about a lie on the record. So I'm not saying he's lying here. But what I am saying is when he comes out and says X fighter turned Y fight down, that's not the 10 commandments. That's not written in stone. There could be a whole lot of differences between they turned it down and what the actual reality is. Maybe Islam was unreasonable.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Maybe he wasn't. I'm just saying, Dana saying the fighter turned it down. I would very much take that with a grain of salt. Yeah, absolutely. And the other point I was going to say was that, you know, there's some speculation of is that small thing that Islam wanted to get his title shot in Abu Dhabi later this year, which was a part of it.
Starting point is 01:07:54 But look, a lot of people tweeting from the beginning when we talked about the beginning of this last episode and saying, hey, guys, just so you know, there's about a 99% chance that wasn't Islam Mahachev that tweeted out that he wants to fight rda and that it was definitely ali abdel aziz your thoughts on that luke it's certainly possible i know that he has uh for a lot of these i mean not all of them i'm not sure how much he does it anymore but certainly we all know that he has used his fighter social media accounts to promote fights or various interests or whatever here's the thing though like if islam really didn't want it i don't think he would go through with this interview now again it could have been ali
Starting point is 01:08:28 tweeting who knows but i do think islam wanted it i do think he did make the request whether it was a special consideration for a title shot or more money and then ufc was like yeah no not we're just we'll just take somebody else plus if you have hanato moikana who's going to come and who costs less than is Makhachev anyway, he's going to do a five-round fight anyway. Why on earth would you pay RDA? It's like in the Marine Corps, dude. They always would hire contractors to build shit.
Starting point is 01:08:54 They would always give it to the lowest bidder. Like, who would do this for the cheapest? Yeah, and Dana went out of his way to shit on him. Dana could have been like, yeah, we talked to Islam, but it didn't work out. Instead, Dana goes out of his way to be like, no, he doesn't want the fight. You know what I mean? So it's like you see right through that. But, you know, Islam did give some interesting quotes on other things, Luke.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Did you see his comments on the main event he said of UFC 272? He said, I'm going to take this belt, defend it like three times, five times, and I'm going to come to the welterweight division. I saw this fight. I witnessed front row when Masvidal versus kobe kobe honestly i really believe i can beat these guys one night both these guys and obviously that's broken english and i'm struggling to even read it but i love i love it i love the confidence i love the balls luke what do you think dude about him no look you gotta run through lightweight first
Starting point is 01:09:42 you gotta you gotta hammer out these hammers first. But do you see him as a potential two-division threat here? I haven't up to this point, but I really loved his answer because he was like, well, what did you see? Because Brett was like, well, what did you see? He goes, because Colby, he have just wrestling. I can beat him easy. His striking is very slow.
Starting point is 01:10:01 And the other guy, Masvidal, I think he's so old now. He just makes some money. He maybe have a couple more fights and he going to retire. You have to see Islam's face when he says this. He says this with the breeziness of someone asking him what the time is. Like in no way was he exaggerating. It doesn't mean he's right, but I'm saying his internal interpretation of that challenge is exactly that way.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Now, to your point, BC, it's like, pump the brakes, homie. We didn't see you against Artie Gay. We got to see you against Dariush, and then we'll see what happens after that. And Dariush, by the way, is a hammer himself. He has no easy feet, so he's got to beat. So the point I'm trying to make here is I love the idea. I am excited about the possibility of 170 um for the future but there's so many things in front of him all right answer this this important question because i didn't i didn't go
Starting point is 01:10:53 out of my way to try to become team islam right i mean i love his game i love his potential i love his attitude but you know there's other guys you're, oh, that's a BC fighter. He loves that guy. It affects his, you know, that's his version of Luke's Anthony Smith. I get that. But with this said, Luke, why does Islam not deserve it right now? I know a lot of people say, well, BC doesn't have enough top ten wins. He's got ten wins in a row. And I know, okay, look, it's not like I'm building the foundation of my argument on that Bobby Green win. It was what it was, and yet he took care of it and hammered it.
Starting point is 01:11:29 But, you know, last time I checked, Luke, a victory over your friend from CKB, that still matters, right? That win still matters, and there's been 10 of them in the row. And, oh, by the way, he's coached by Habib. So what the hell's the problem? Why is Dana coming on there and throwing him under the bus? Why does he have to clear another hurdle? Tell me, newfound Islam superfan, what I'm missing here, Luke. Nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I mean, if you talk to the people on Twitter who, you know, where a compliment is an insult and an insult is a compliment, I don't know what they might say, but I think some of the things I've seen are, well, you know, why rattle the cage about the rda fight if you just intended to back out and it's like i don't know that he did that that you're you're taking white's framing of the situation as a guaranteed assumption so there is that i mean you could argue if you really wanted to listen in the world of conor mcgregor nothing means anything right like all these things like
Starting point is 01:12:24 well fighters need to make sure they have more wins what about conor well he don't need shit because he's popular in that world are you like what is what does islam need to like oh he has to match that we're in a world where they can do what the matchmakers can do whatever they want if they want to give conor the title shot they can if they wanted to sign some guy off the street and give him a title shot short of the commission intervening they can yeah so so this idea like well he doesn't have enough elite wins okay i've seen guys with title shots who got more wins but it's a little bit bullshit it's like when uh matt damon's character and rounders had the balls to tell teddy kgb not to splash the pot and splash the chips and he he goes, in my fucking club, I will smash the pot whenever the fuck I want to.
Starting point is 01:13:09 All night long. Chick, chick, chick. You know what I'm saying? Look, alligator blood. Pay that man his money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. All right, BC.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Seriously, of our lifetime, it's a top five movie of our movie watching lifetime. Say it. Just say it out loud and agree to it. It's not even close to top five. I love it, but it's a top five movie of our movie watching lifetime. Say it. Just say it out loud and agree to it. It's not even close to top five. I love it, but it's not top five. You Carl Sagan reading motherfucker, Luke, okay? BC's like, yo, white chicks, that's
Starting point is 01:13:35 my number one movie, bro. BC, real quick. Look, I'm in Deadwood right now, dude. I'm in Deadwood. This is crazy. And you've got Deadwood. I bet on top of it. All right, topic number four, Bellator 279. Real quickly, this was announced.
Starting point is 01:13:51 This was announced for April 23rd. We'll go through this very quickly. BC, this is a hell of a card. It's the kickoff of the Bantamweight. Are we fucking or fighting, Luke? What is going on right now? I don't know. With the Bellator Bantamweight Grand Prix,
Starting point is 01:14:03 you have two of those fights on this card, plus Ileana McFarlane taking on Justine Kish, plus the rematch. I mean, we don't need to see Cyborg Blanco right away because Cyborg ran through with the first time, but it's not a bad fight per se. Oh, how dare you? We will not besmirch Arlene Blanco in this household.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I'm not besmirching her. I'm just saying, did we need this fight right away? She's one of my favorite fighters. Look, I'm sorry. You're going to have to deal with it, okay? Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Sergio Pettis is going to be in this bantamweight tourney.
Starting point is 01:14:29 He, of course, is the existing weight class champion. He's taking on teammate Ralphion Stotts in the Grand Prix. So as we know, the title moves through whoever has it as it goes along. Those are going to be five-round fights. BC, they're teammates. This is a... And by the way, Pachim mix versus kyoji horiguchi let's stop right there this card rules this is big news for bellator it's not only going back
Starting point is 01:14:51 to hawaii where they found a you know rabid fan base as we already knew just waiting for them lima lima farland came out that night like she was you know homecoming super bowl champion i mean it was just like love and energy. Bellator is going to be there two nights, but this Saturday night card, April 23rd, it bangs. Luke, yes, main event alone, this is how we're going to kick off this Grand Prix. The champion going against his teammates, somebody as red hot as Rafael Stotz. Luke, this fight alone makes this card fantastic, but you get a co-main of Cyborg,anco too and okay didn't cyborg you know defeat her handily when they fought when uh october of 2020 yeah but you know blanco did what
Starting point is 01:15:33 top contenders do they go back to the well luke they get two impressive victories and here we are again and you're just going to add in to kick off the card patchy mix kyoji origuchi in this tournament with Lima, lame McFarlane coming home against Justine kitsch. I mean, like, look, this rules.
Starting point is 01:15:49 This is a great move by Scott Coker. If, even if you think the other stuff is just, you know, Garland and, and dressing these two Bantamweight bouts alone. Good Lord is among the best fights you can make at this weight division in the world. So this is what gets you fired up. And also it just, it should be noted. Uh, alone, good lord, is among the best fights you can make at this weight division in the
Starting point is 01:16:05 world. So this is what gets you fired up. And also, it should be noted, for folks who are new to MMA, this may not make a lot of sense, but in the late 90s and especially in the early 2000s, Hawaii was a, and it still remains in terms of a place where talent comes from, but in terms of a place where also major shows were held, like Rumble on the Rock and hawaii was a hotbed and blaisdell arena was one of the premier points of mma when robbie lawler left ufc for the first time he went to a few places not least of which was icon sport which used to be known as super brawl back in the day um and a lot of ufc fighters fought in super
Starting point is 01:16:39 brawl before they even came to ufc what i'm trying to say is there was a lot of questions for many years about when ufc is going back to bell or back to trying to say is there was a lot of questions for many years about when UFC is going back to Hawaii and they wanted a bunch of money from the tourism board. In Hawaii, the tourism board told them to go pound sand and Bellator was like, we'll take it up. So it's been real smart of Scott Coker and Bellator to find a place
Starting point is 01:16:58 that kind of been neglected a little bit by some of the more elite MMA organizations that has a deep, rich tradition. You can put shows back there. They're going to air to air on Showtime dude this is a big win for a lot of different people I mean I don't know the bracket do we know the bracket is the winner of Pettis so I texted I texted um uh Danny Brenner from Bellator today I was like have you guys put out the bracket I just didn't see it no they haven't put it out yet there are a couple of reasons why he explained to me I can't quite get into it but they are going to release it soon is what he said okay because we don't you
Starting point is 01:17:27 know could this night april 23rd saturday night be a setup where pettis and horiguchi are setting up to go again if they both win and neither victory by the way is is some automatic consequence with that said luke um this is a deep grand prix the are big. Do you still stand where we stood when this fight card was announced, that even though Kyoji Horiguchi lost to the champion Sergio Pettis by, you know, as I guess I don't know if the word is miraculous, but that's not too far off. Miraculous knockout from Sergio Pettis. Is the Gooch still the favorite? Forget the betting odds.
Starting point is 01:18:05 In your heart, is the Gooch the tournament favorite as we kick this off? Yes. You can't take away what Sergio Pettis did. He stayed committed to the fight and found an opening. Simple as that, right? But as we all saw what happened for the 18 minutes and however many seconds it was before he threw that,
Starting point is 01:18:26 that was a one-sided ass-whipping. So I don't want to discount anything Sergio did. He won that fight fair and square. That's what MMA is all about. You let your guard down for an instant, and you will pay for it. But I do think that the guy who has shown the most ability to this point is probably Kyoji Horiguchi. Don't you agree? Yeah, and just to recap for anyone that forgets,
Starting point is 01:18:47 here's the pool in this Bellator eight-man tournament. Sergio Pettis, Horiguchi, Magomed Magomedov, who despite that close loss to Raffion Stotts, is game. James Gallagher, Leandro Higo, Pachi Mix, Raffion Stotts, and Juan Archuleta, the former champion, somewhat forgotten in this mix. So I definitely want to see, I'm most interested in seeing James Gallagher's path because he's really going to have to prove to us, Luke, exactly what he's made of if he's going to keep advancing and get through this bracket. Gooch to me is the favorite, but dude, I'm watching Magomed Magomedov close, Luke, not just because it's, it's, it's smash season right now, but,
Starting point is 01:19:23 you know, even in that loss, dude, he's got a motor. This guy, this guy's a, it's it's smet it's smash season right now but you know even in that loss dude he's got a motor this guy this guy's a it's going to be a problem here he's got a he's got cory anderson vibes entering the light heavyweight grand prix in my opinion okay last thing i'll say on this don't forget ramadan i think is april 2nd to may 2nd i think part of the reason why they haven't put the bracket out is i think magomedov will be observing ramadan which means fighting is going to be a bit of a difficult task. So I think they're waiting to figure out what his schedule is before they can make the full
Starting point is 01:19:50 brackets, but it should be out soon from what I hear. Luke, are you Team Angerfist for Cyborg Blenco 2 or what, bro? I don't have a side. I mean, may the best person win. I don't really care. BC, it is time for Over Under, my friend. friends yeah luke this segment
Starting point is 01:20:06 pretty much explains itself i got seven questions i got a number for you you tell me if the odds are more likely to be over or under total vapes per episode i take the over thank you can you can you get through this before seven hours expires let's see see. Yes. Okay, number one here, Luke. We need a little jingle. We need a theme song, something. Luke, Nate Diaz penned an IG post this week and aimed it at UFC and Dana White saying, quote, I'm ready for my last fight.
Starting point is 01:20:36 The guy says he's ready also, meaning Poirier. So let's get this shit popping. I've got shit to do. Luke, over under 75% chance that the only reason UFC hasn't booked Nate Dustin yet, despite both fighters wanting it and Dana White going on record about 18 times saying he wants it, is because Dana is trying to wait out this Jake Paul bubble, which might explain the Jorge Masvidal five fight deal that he just signed at age 37,
Starting point is 01:21:06 as long as possible to prevent Nate and maybe even Jorge from moving on over and cashing in on it. True. I'll say I'll take the over. I'll take the over. And if you're a promoter and you're a Dana and you, not only does Dana not want to lose an idea as a services to somebody else, if he can at all,
Starting point is 01:21:24 avoid it, but to Jake Paul. And here's the worst part. Like, you know, I don't know that I would bet on Jake Paul to beat Nate Diaz. Probably I wouldn't. But if that fight gets delayed and, you know, we're teetering on 40, again, he's a big, not huge guy, but he's a bigger guy than Nate. Like, I'm not saying, I would still pick Nate to win, but, you know, that would improve Jake's chances. Dude, that number's a bigger guy than Nate. I'm not saying... I would still pick Nate to win, but that would improve Jake's chances.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Dude, that number's aggressive, though. 75. So you're saying, without a shadow of a doubt, that Nate versus Dustin could have happened in January of this year, for all we know. In fairness, hold on. There's also no doubt that I'm sure Diaz is asking for things that complicate the procedure.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Whether he's entitled to them or not is different. Yeah. He's like, yo, I want $3.5 million to take this fight. And they're like, we don't really give that out in like a lump sum like that. You know, we don't really do that. It's actually, I can tell you a story off air that's not too far from that, actually. But the point I'm trying to make is there's a ton of friction between them. Hinozzo Moicano, frictionless to get him to fly, basically, from South and North America. It's a lot of friction to get Nate to do it.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I'll take the over. All right, Luke, 44 year old Brock Lesnar spoke to the New York post this week while promoting WrestleMania and was asked about his future in the UFC saying, quote, I'm too old. That's a young man's sport. And that door is closed. I'm Brock Lesnar, the WWE superstar and end quote. Luke, two and a half over under the amount of current top 15 UFC heavyweights that Lesnar could defeat right now in a three-round fight
Starting point is 01:22:53 if allowed to roid up to whatever excessive amount he wants without penalty, similar to UFC 200, although there was a penalty at the end of that as well, Luke. Now, this is three rounds. How about this? Similar to UFC 200, although there was a penalty at the end of that as well, Luke. Now, this is three rounds. How about this? You don't even have to cut to 265, Brock. Let that dude shoot up that horse tranquilizer right into his ball sack, Luke. Two and a half over under top 15 UFC heavyweights. I'll take the over.
Starting point is 01:23:22 I'll take the over. Wow. So you're like, so like the perfect name for this is augusto sakai right that's like the perfect middle of the road measuring stick so 44 year old well here's what i would say i think walt harris on the feet would obviously light brock lesnar on fire but brock still got you know i mean i was like okay ufc 200 brock still had really good takedowns that was a long time time ago. I grant, but he was 38 then. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:45 But he, I mean, dude, let's be honest when he took his shirt off on the scale. No, not the scales, that public workout he did. And he took his shirt off at UFC 200 after,
Starting point is 01:23:56 you know, and I mean, dude, he was fucking gigantic Luke and just caught like, I mean, look, he was, he was right. It up to the gills Luke I mean
Starting point is 01:24:07 there were needles just hanging from his nipples Luke wasn't it wasn't it beautiful I loved it yeah I mean it was the peak of human performance that guy even at 44 that guy takes Augusto Sakai downtown Luke I think he takes a lot of these guys down it's uncomfortable to say but I think it's true he dude he even like with barely prep, he was taking down guys who had – I remember when he fought Heath Herring. We were all like, do you see how big Heath looked at the weigh-ins? Heath Herring is going to give him some problems. He fucking ran over Heath Herring.
Starting point is 01:24:35 The thing is, though, Luke, if you hit him right in the face with one big shot, you can put him on tilt. What was your question? Who could he beat? We don't know we don't know we're all speculating those are how about this those are there's are there at least three winnable fights in the top 10 or top 15 for him yeah there are three winnable fights absolutely would he mow the lawn with uh greg hardy oh man probably bro that i mean because you know he's a good athlete too he take i mean we're talking like a roided with Greg Hardy? Oh, man. Probably, bro. I mean, because, you know, he's a good athlete, too.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I mean, we're talking like a roided-up version. He could still move a little bit, I'm sure. And just so you know, the opponents, they'd have to go undergo a USADA, Luke. All right? All right? Yeah. Although Brock would have to get – I mean, the chest tattoo is – everyone hates it more than I do. I don't like it, but I don't care about it.
Starting point is 01:25:23 The haircut. I mean, what are we doing with that thing? Well, now he's got some facial hair, hair at least so it's not that bad who looks at that and goes nailed it i mean don't get me wrong i don't look in the mirror and think i've nailed it either to be clear but i don't think i'm egregiously you know annoying the world with my just my hair although i probably am doing that too look true or false thinking back at lesnar's ufc run it it kind of feels like like a fever dream or something like it feels like it was like a movie
Starting point is 01:25:48 we watched like it wasn't it was a party it was it was like a dude if you're it was like being at a party and like randomly a famous person came through the party and kind of celebrated and was doing all the things with you bill murray is there bill murray's making out with chicks yeah bill murray's singing and pretending he's still funny at age whatever he is at this point uh it was like that it was like a party that a famous person showed up to we had a great time and he moved on that was i mean one of one luke whether you love him or hate him one of one all right bc we got to move this along okay i'm just entertaining my people luke okay number three after recent comments from terrence crawford and trainer brian bomack mcintyre about the idea of moving up to 154 pounds if the big name welterweights continue to avoid him.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Oh no. Unified junior middleweight champion Jermell Charlo took umbrage with those words, saying on the Last Stand with Brian Custer podcast, quote, Crawford, y'all ain't never seen no real shit like this shit here. How about he do what's best and go fight Errol Spence then? Shut up. Take a little bit less money. Be quiet. Humble yourself and fight Errol Spence. He a stud. Sit your ass in your weight division and see if you can beat one of them because fuck with me, you're going to get knocked the fuck out. I'm a knockout artist, baby. End quote. Unrelated, Luke, there was some, I think a TMZ report about some potential troubles with the law for Jermell.
Starting point is 01:27:12 So that's something to watch there. But Luke, this is far from an easy fight to make. Terrence Crawford versus Jermell Charlo at 154 pounds. Because Charlo has two overdue mandatories that he's going to have to do should he get past Brian Castaño in their rematch to keep all those belts. But, Luke, over-under, minus 110. What Terrence Crawford's odds should be if he was to accept a fight tomorrow
Starting point is 01:27:42 against Jermell Charlo at 154 pounds i'll take the under here's the thing bud is well okay i think just so you know luke just to cut you off one last time errol spence is team i don't think that'll be the last time you cut me off but yes please please continue jermell charlo and errol spence are teammates so part of this is Jermell Charlo getting his teammates back and saying, hey, Crawford, dude, you should be fighting Spence. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. I would say this.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I think Jermell is probably the slightly more talented of the two between Jermell and Jermall. And I would say that for that reason and because he is significant. Well, shit, you know? know fuck that's a tough one shit balls um i mean do you agree bud would be the favorite do you agree with that yeah he probably would be you know what i'm gonna take my answer back i'll take well does the over make the the minus higher like minus yeah the over makes him a bigger uh i'll take the over barely barely he might be like a minus 120 minus 130 ish kind of range look i texted you i texted you the same spirit, the same attitude, the same energy.
Starting point is 01:29:08 If they freaking made – if we can't get Crawford Spence, which everybody wants and deserves, of course. If Crawford moved up to 154 and fought Jermell Charlo, Luke, I'd take my clothes off and go streaking. I mean, this is like – this is involuntarily shadowboxing in the mirror. Like this is, you know, your parents on December 1st going, I know Christmas is like a few weeks, but you just want to open that shit now. Like, yeah, dude, are you kidding me? Dude, how high would you be off of this news, Luke? I mean, I would, it was on Showtime. I'd be very
Starting point is 01:29:40 high. Do you remember those accidental erections in high school that all you could do was hold like four books in front of it when you're walking down the hallway? Because your body's changing, dude. Right? And there's chicks. I mean, you know what I mean? Well, you know, it's science, Luke, right? So, Luke, I would have one of those in my day.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Dead wood no more, Luke. Alive. Alive and well, okay? We need that. Three needles, bro. Three needles. All right. Here we go. Number more, Luke. Alive. Alive and well, okay? We need that. Three needles, bro. Three needles. All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Number four, Luke. As you are aware by now, I'm setting up shop in good old Deadwood, South Dakota for Showbox Friday night. I've never been to South Dakota, Luke. Never imagined being in South Dakota and never tried to go to South Dakota before. So this is cool, but it's also weird. Luke, the current population in this barren state is 886,000 people. Over under three, three, the amount of current South Dakota residents who make up our 106,000 YouTube MK subscription base. Wow.
Starting point is 01:30:45 There are only 800 plus thousand people in all of South Dakota. Yeah, I think there's like four times that amount in Connecticut alone, Luke. Dude, D.C. is 700,000. That's a small city. Three people. I want to make so many jokes about South Dakota right now. I just want to kill them on air. It's like, do three people have internet in South Dakota?
Starting point is 01:31:11 I don't even know. If you are living in South Dakota and you can prove it, morningcombat.gmail.com. I'll say yes. I'll take the over. I'll take the over. I think at least three, but it probably ain't many. Probably like 10 or something.
Starting point is 01:31:25 You know, I was driving here. Look, this be saskatchewan for all i know i mean it happened to say south dakota the street sign but like it's it's it's a different world out here okay luke you know yeah gaff says that uh he's looking in the chat and no one has identified as being from south dakota yeah guess like i can't find any south dakotans but i can find a bunch of racists and misogynists yeah that's the morning combat chat for you um what what there more of in South Dakota? Antlers on people's walls or YouTube subscribers for morning combat? Or YouTube subscribers in general. All right, Luke, number five of seven. UFC welterweight champion Kamaru Usman scoffed at the idea of fighting Hamzat Shemaev this calendar year when he talked to
Starting point is 01:32:06 the media last weekend during a scrum at 272. The quote, well, I mean, this guy hasn't even fought in the top 10. He hasn't even beat anyone yet. So I mean, Covington is still standing in the way. So I think there's a couple more fights that he has to get through. End quote. Luke Dana White, when asked at Saturday's post fight presser whether Chimaev versus Gilbert Burns was the number one contender fight, he responded, yeah, that makes sense. So, Luke, considering Kamaru Usman thinks he's boxing Canelo this year, the over-under, one and a half, the amount of victories Hamzat Chimaev will still need to get a shot at Kamaru Usman's welterweight title? I'll take the under.
Starting point is 01:32:51 I'm going to take the under. You're going to take Dana at his word that if Shemaev beats Burns and if Usman doesn't do something else after Leon Edwards, right? Right, right. Okay. Yes, I'm going to take the under. I think that chamayev already has way too much hype not too much in the sense that he's undeserving of it i'm just
Starting point is 01:33:09 being overwhelming amount for people to resist themselves and we've talked about it you beat somebody the quality of gilbert burns dude you're you're elite that's just how it goes because he's super elite so you get past that one granted you know how many elite wins would he have he would have one elite win at that point but that might be the only elite win that you need if you're comms not jamaev so if he beats gilbert burns i'm gonna take the under i'll say one well just just that one the gilbert burns one is it gonna be weird luke when we're in the midst of this russian ukraine thing and there's obvious fears of what direction this could end up going. And there's, you know, people are taking an anti-Russian stand,
Starting point is 01:33:50 whether it's misplaced or not aimed at fighters or people or whatever. If all of these Russians arrive at the same time and take over each division in the UFC, is that going to be a problem for the fan base, Luke? Portions of them. All right. Port all right portions not for me not for you well speaking of that luke rising ufc bantamweight bryce mitchell appeared last night with tucker carl tucker carlson on fox news explaining his stance on why he would never take part as a u.s citizen in a russiaUkraine war unless Russia was invading his beloved
Starting point is 01:34:26 Arkansas directly. Mitchell went on to tell Carlson, quote, I'm not just wanting to go waste my life fighting for some of these battles that I don't even believe in. I believe our leaders, a lot of these elites in the U.S. are guilty of treason. What they've done is just treasonous, end quote. Luke, he went on to say he has been getting a huge backlash because of those comments, but unlike most people, he doesn't have fear in his job that he'll lose it by speaking his mind. Luke, over under 84% of U.S.-born UFC fighters right now currently have the Fox News app downloaded on their phone. Oh, I'll take the over.
Starting point is 01:35:03 84 seems like a profound undercount if it's not in the mid to high 90s uh i would be i would be shocked i would very much imagine that they i i tweeted about this earlier like there's clear i mean people are like well was that so bad no i like what you like hate what you hate i mean i'm what like if i tell you that's going to make any difference people are going to do what they're going to do. But there is clearly a coalition forming. You saw like the sort of the mainstream left-wing media kind of coalescing around the NBA and NFL and some of their progressive causes.
Starting point is 01:35:34 And, you know, like that or hate that, that's up to you. This is something of a different, maybe even a response, but certainly the other side of it where you're getting this sort of right-wing UFC fighter coalition. And dude, they're getting a ton of publicity from it but you're asking me who's got that kind of shit on their phone all of them virtually all of them I don't are you impressed are you and just impressed in general with the footprint Bryce Mitchell has made for
Starting point is 01:35:58 himself in the past two months sure I mean here's the thing dude like I don't know how to answer these questions about people's worldviews because you know almost everyone in mma including my co-host on the show brian campbell have very different views about the world and so you know trying to police everyone to get the you to see the world the way that you do is you know we have to battle that out sometimes but you also have to be kind of you have to have a little bit of humility about like your way is your way and you kind of should leave it that way. Yeah, Luke, get off my shit.
Starting point is 01:36:30 My way is my way. What I'm saying is, you know, whatever he wants to do on the political side, if nothing, or just go on Tucker once and that's it, it's entirely up to him. I'm trying my best, dude. I really am. I'm trying, and I'm sure I suck at it at times.
Starting point is 01:36:41 You know who's not doing a good job with that, Luke? Our fan, the snarky ginger, because that time I said I liked Keith Schilling. What is it? Kurt Schilling as a baseball player? He was a good baseball player. I was at the bloody sock game, and he's kind of an asshole in interviews, so I always kind of liked his snarkiness. She assumed I meant that I like everything he's ever said, Luke,
Starting point is 01:37:00 and she is still talking some ish on the old Twitter web. All right, that's fine. I'm just pointing out, you know, it's not said, Luke, and she is still talking some ish on the old Twitter web. All right, that's fine. I'm just pointing out, you know, it's not just, dude, he went on Tucker because he said something, but he said something at a media event ahead of a fight, and in that fight, he performed super well. It's all part of a general effort rooted in the work they do in the octagon. I do my, and I'm sure I fail at it dude but i i genuinely try i try i try i try we got to try to keep going put that stuff aside to pay attention to the
Starting point is 01:37:30 good stuff our great cbs producer mikey more miles sliding in saying we had 107 youtube views from the state of south dakota last month i don't think that means 107 separate people correct no that could be one person just refreshing 106 times. Because their Wi-Fi was so bad, it just kept, you know, refreshing. They were looking for a McDonald's Wi-Fi, but there's no McDonald's. Yeah, yeah, indeed, Luke. All right, I got one more for you on over-under. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:37:57 This is a true story from this morning, Luke. While at Bradley International Airport in Hartford, Connecticut, or Windsor-Lox, Connecticut, excuse me, I stood in line at the Dunkin' Donuts, two spots ahead of Yukon women's basketball coach Gino Auriemma, who Luke, you may know, is revered in my state like a deity, and he was also with assistant coach and 1995 national champion Jamel Elliott. Luke, this is just two days removed from the women's Huskies team winning their 20th Big East tournament.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Elliott was talking kind of loud and relaying to Geno that star sophomore Paige Beckers, who finally returned from a much-publicized knee injury two weeks ago, was complaining about her minutes played. And, Luke, I looked it up. Paige played just nine minutes off the bench in their 30-point blowout of Villanova in the Big East final. And Gino's like, well, you know, look, you know, basically saying she's a fireplug.
Starting point is 01:38:52 She's coming after it. Luke, over under, three and a half, the amount of women's basketball games, college or pro, that you have watched from start to finish over the course of your 42-year life? Zero. Zero. Start to finish. I've seen long portions, but start to finish. You hypocrite misogynist, Luke.
Starting point is 01:39:15 I'm sorry. I just don't. Women's basketball doesn't do anything for me. I'm sorry. It doesn't. I mean, Luke, maybe because I'm from Connecticut. I'm allowed to not like certain things, by the way. I'm not even a
Starting point is 01:39:25 yukon women fan and when you're in connecticut it's just like you got to step over that shit i mean it's in your face every second every day luke you know it's like secondhand smoke you know what i'm saying like asbestos luke that's what the yukon women's team is in connecticut as best i'm not saying you can't like these things or people out there can't like them it just doesn't appeal to me and that's okay. But, yeah, how many have I seen start to finish? Looks like have any of them made me a sandwich in the past week? I ain't supporting that shit.
Starting point is 01:39:51 No, fuck off. It's not that, you fucking hater. All right, Luke, let's close quickly here with fan submissions. MorningCombat at gmail.com is the email address to send in yourselves wearing tight T-shirts and all that shit. We've got mail. Let's do it. We've got mail.
Starting point is 01:40:09 We've got mail viewers. Yes, we do, Luke. All right. Yes. Ragingly single mail viewers. Here's Adam. He says, Luke, put a sticky note onto your camera that says you aren't on radio anymore so you can realize you don't have to cut to commercial or end your show
Starting point is 01:40:25 on time so goober mcfuckface can come on after you and talk about downhill skiing or some bullshit the fans enjoy the shows put something stronger than nicotine in the vape so you can relax just let them happen luke this was a roast of you worthy of dead wrong on Friday. Yes, this is a very, very, very funny one. The reason why is we all had meetings prior to those shows saying we wanted the show to go a little bit quicker. Granted, we are not good at doing that, but that's why I did it. I was trying to just move the show along. I wasn't trying to hate on your art, BC.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Thank you. Here comes Nick. He says, quote, another funny. I think he thinks he's got another funny meme for us, Luke. Let's see it. What does Nick have? Yeah, yeah. I mean, is that racist?
Starting point is 01:41:13 You know, as Mike Goldberg would say, Luke, virtually identical. And to be, wait, are they saying because you were born in India, that's why, Luke? That's racist. Yeah. Yeah, this is, we should move on from this one. Okay. All right. God. I mean, don't let the Indian cry, Luke? That's racist. Yeah. Yeah, this is, we should move on from this one. Okay. All right. God.
Starting point is 01:41:25 I mean, don't let the Indian cry, Luke. Make the Indian. I mean, that's just, I mean, come on, Luke. The Native American, please. Luke, Adam slides in, a different Adam. This subreddit is full of people shitting on Luke for his newly found midlife crisis vaping habit. Decided to throw a few shitty memes together with some of the best stuff i saw out there shouts to the subreddit for credit okay something new there we go it's isabella
Starting point is 01:41:53 yeah what else can i do i don't even know contigo and i still understand this luke okay and then mirabel says bring it bring it in, which the translation was, Benica, Benica. Gotta get that. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yes. All right. Anything else from Adam, or can we go on to Dave, Gav?
Starting point is 01:42:19 Thanks, Gav. Oh, here's one more. All right. I mean, Luke, eventually they'll break you. Right now it's like, okay, we've seen this joke, guys. Funny, funny. But soon you'll turn on them, Luke, okay? I mean, we're getting close there.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Dude, I'm telling you. Oh, here we go. I would believe it, Luke. Yeah, listen. You know, not every photo someone takes of you is your best. Let's put it that way. Luke, I mean, look, I can't say anything because the photos of me during that've had, you know, not every photo someone takes of you is your best. Let's put it that way. Luke, I mean, look, I can't say anything because the photos of me during that age are, you know, virtually identical, as they'd say again.
Starting point is 01:42:52 But that guy, there's a lot of despair in that guy's eyes, Luke, okay? Yeah, dude, I was, true story, I was drinking every day at this time in my life. Every single day. Your haircut represents that. Thank you. I mean, you know, it looked like you got back from the audition for a higher learning luke remy you know michael rapaport yeah all right luke finally dave says gents as a fellow parent of a small child i feel luke's pain when he talks about kids requesting
Starting point is 01:43:17 songs on repeat so i put my insane photoshop skills aka cutting and pasting and powerpoint to use and tried to capture my feelings about a certain song from incanto by screenshotting luke's face at the exact moment tuki asked for it the 10 000th time love you guys keep up the good work i hope to catch your live show uh blah blah blah so the donks and i can once again attempt to overthrow the editorial process, electoral process and put MK in the combat sports hall of fame. Stay frothy. It's knobby buckles, AKA Dave Luke. Can you explain this meme to me?
Starting point is 01:43:56 Uh, I, okay. So Bruno is a character who is like one of the uncles who was hiding in the walls because he didn't want to get blamed for shit basically. And they don't talk about them. And, uh, no, I don't really get this. All right, all right.
Starting point is 01:44:09 There it is. I guess, did I shit on conversation about Bruno Silva? I don't remember that, but maybe I did. No, you didn't. They just assumed you'd get real excited. So Luke, here's the thing. I got to pee really bad. I'm sure you got a few other jobs
Starting point is 01:44:19 or some vape channels to watch. And you know, there we go. Some chemtrails to research. it is there it is get that shit out that was funny wash that down to watch wash that down with an energy drink like a real american luke okay dire mountain dew bc god damn where's my sidearm i'm gonna go feel around deadwood like a blind man and an orgy luke yeah right you know what i mean just get immersed in this shit right yeah okay what do you do what is there to do in deadwood except for friday to go to the fights and watch them on showtime but short of that what is there to do well you know i think the best way how would you describe the deadwood nightlife uh it's me after my vaxectomy luke
Starting point is 01:45:01 you know what i mean just uh deadwood indeed indeed, Luke. Okay. Gummy bears and you crying in a tub. Here's what I'll say so far. People, the people are outstanding and there's a very cheesy wild West vibe to everything. Right. You know, like in, in so far, Luke, you know, I've been to redneck Vegas, AKA pigeon forge in Gatlinburg, Tennessee, Luke. Okay. But, um, this has a very Branson, Missouri type of feel to it, and those who know, they know, Luke, okay? Okay, well, I wish you nothing but don't get shot. Don't get shot.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Just be nice. Do you think I will get challenged to a duel at all while I'm here? Because I'll Aaron Burr the shit out of somebody, Luke. Yeah, right? I don't think you'll get challenged to a duel, but you might get bucked in the parking lot if you give someone the side eye. Yo, I think every man deserves to get shivved
Starting point is 01:45:51 at least once, right, Luke? Between the sixth and seventh rib. You gotta, that's where, get to the lung, just, you know. Yeah, fish. Yeah, yeah, fresh meat, yeah. Right, nasty meat. No, no, no. Serious question, because I know your bitch ass do they
Starting point is 01:46:06 and this is real do they have uber eats in deadwood south dakota because i know you checked you i'm about to find out bro i'm not kidding every single restaurant in this city town is a steakhouse i'm not even kidding luke every single single one. Steaks must be good, right? I mean, if everyone's doing it, like, they're probably pretty good. If everyone's vaping, I might as well get on it, right? You know, it's great, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:34 That's really... Dude, these vape jokes, I'm going to keep vaping them because these are actually... I love this roasting. It's fucking hilarious. Dude, how high tea am I in this Deadwood hat
Starting point is 01:46:43 compared to the One Love hat, Luke? I got to say, it brings out a, you know what? You know why I like it? Because it's that hunter orange, right? Because sometimes the hunters, by rules, have to wear that orange vest for hunting the deer. Or a lot of hunting circumstances. You know what? You got a little bit of a, your car makes you look like you're on the trip to Lilith Fair.
Starting point is 01:47:03 So that doesn't work. But the hat makes you look like you're on the way to the gas station to get some tackle to go fish or maybe go hunt. And get a little shit in the lip, Luke. I look like, I really do look like a backwoods right now. You know, that's the thing, Luke. Do I clean up well on camera? Sometimes. But you can't forget your roots, Luke, okay?
Starting point is 01:47:25 I represent Noggetts of Connecticut, even when I'm in Deadwood, okay? And we could fit in around here. I don't think you could fit in around there. I don't think I could fit in around there. No, we could not fit in around there. We could get by. We can't really fit in. I'd probably fit in.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Yeah, I bet I could fit in more. No, I won't say that. What, at a brothel yeah yeah latin brothel luke latin brothel dude la casita i mean you're kidding me that's that's home buddy all right uh special thanks luke uh to the to the viewers for adjusting your time so that bc could fly because again go look up Hartford to Rapid City flights. There's not a lot of them, Luke. But I'll be here again on Friday with you. Friday night, showbox the new generation. Get your 30 days of showtime right now
Starting point is 01:48:16 because there's so much Bellator coming at you. So much great boxing. But of course, come support what BC's doing with Barry Tompkins. And Luke, you know our colleague Raul Marquez, former 154-pound world champion. El Diamante. El Diamante, as you mentioned.
Starting point is 01:48:32 You know, look, seriously, one of the better analysts in the game today, no question. His son, Giovanni Marquez, a U.S. National Golden Gloves champion, making his pro debut in Friday night's tripleheader, a four-round bout to kick it off. This is a big deal, Luke. I think he will become just the sixth fighter in Showbox's 21-year history to make their pro debut on the show.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Wow, really? Raul is going to be the head trainer in the corner. So wait, is it just you and Barry on commentary? For the first fight, and then Raul after the hopeful celebration, or we'll see what happens. Nelson Morales is coming on. He's going to be back in the booth with Barry Tompkins and myself. Steve Farhart, of course, is going to be part of the broadcast at the Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Live from Deadwood, Luke, I don't know what it's going to look like, but tune in to find out. Dude, that's a... Man, can you imagine cornering your son for their pro debut on national television and then you have to go call fights on national television? Fucking Raul has. You know what that means, Luke? We're cut out for him.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Hey, could you turn off more lights so we can't, there we go. You know what that means, Luke? Two paychecks, okay? Maybe Raul's smarter than we are, okay? All right, two paychecks. Like what you're doing today, you fucking ape. I know you. Wow, afternoon, afternoon look afternoon combat gets
Starting point is 01:49:45 off the rails a bit but it's a fairly good show you know i liked i didn't mind this afternoon slot i feel i'm feeling i'm feeling frisky i might go vape in my in my shitter to me i'm like i know i just got off the plane but do they have the uh eighth row of delta in this town at all look okay i need to i'll take the exit row if that's all you got, but can we please, okay? Yeah, I like the eighth row. Exit row, the seats don't recline, but on the eighth row, I don't know, for some reason, you just feel great.
Starting point is 01:50:12 You know what I'm saying? What do you think about this move, Luke? From Hartford to Minneapolis this morning, I'm in the exit row, but I'm alone, right? So that's great. Unbuckle the belt, use my backpack as a pillow, spread across all three and fall asleep but i kept my shoes on is that a white trash move or is that okay no if you for sure if you were taking the shoes off
Starting point is 01:50:34 you'd be dub t but because you kept them on it's borderline but i don't think it counts i don't think that counts selfish maybe selfish little prick east coast prick yeah you know there's an east coast bias luke um mk social uh star brendan lynch sliding into our zoom do you see on his uh instagram look that he grapples i didn't i did not see that i would like to set it considering you have 10 years grappling experience i'd like to set up a little a little super fight maybe we'll Maybe we'll run it at high rollers. BC, I'm retired. You understand that? I don't do that anymore.
Starting point is 01:51:13 If Brendan Lynch comes at the King, though, Luke. It's bad for my body. I'm trying to live. I'm trying to get some vapes and some Delta 8s in here, not some arm bars. Okay, okay, okay. All right. Yeah. Well, hey, Luke, we'll find out if we win more awards and, you know, who knows. I mean, can we tell the people?
Starting point is 01:51:28 We got some big plans, Luke. Yeah. You can vote for us for Best Combat Sports Podcast at Sports Podcast Awards, and that'd be great. If we win that, I think we get some real cool shit to do. So do that. Luke, true or false? With you guys.
Starting point is 01:51:44 With you guys. you guys true or false not only are you and i going to be back in jersey city sooner than later for another round of let's make award winning content but you and i might be visiting south florida together soon we might be visiting south florida very soon together so that should be fun be on some big boy shit down there so what you know all right in some gonna be in some some bbl heaven you know yeah no masks allowed in florida luke okay all right they dropped the mask mandate here so who cares at this point i guess all right bc uh let's call it a day enjoy deadwood if you want to follow us on social you can see the graphic below morning combat's name is the same everywhere.
Starting point is 01:52:26 And then there's BC and I. Email the show, morningcombat at gmail.com for Friday's Dead Wrong. More content coming tomorrow, by the way. So be on the lookout for that. Showtime is the label that pays us and BC especially.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Go to showtime.com, get a 30-day free trial. You can catch BC for free. Look at that. Look at that. Pull it up just a little higher. There you go. You can get that merch, I think, at morningcombat.store.
Starting point is 01:52:50 Is that up there yet? Yeah, that's up there, Luke. That's up there. Okay, there you go. There you go. So visit morningcombat.store to get that. And BC, any final words? No, thank you, folks.
Starting point is 01:53:00 Thank you for being great listeners, great viewers. You know what I mean? You tell it like it is. The things you don't like, you tell the things you do like though tell a friend okay let's get this luke we've been stuck right remember when that remember that time they're like he's sitting on 714 and then hank aaron hit it out of the park and broke the damn record luke we april 4th or april 8th i'm sorry 1974 luke we have been sitting on 104, 105, 106, 100,000 YouTube subscribers for a long time.
Starting point is 01:53:30 What's it going to take for the remaining freeloaders who have been down with MK since day one to click that subscribe button, to stop being a freeloader? A change in our content strategy. Oh, all right. Then we'll work on it we gotta go all right for mulca for cbs sports for showtime for deadwood south dakota and bc's frustrated uber eats i'm luke thomas we'll see you guys on friday and until then may all of your gains be loyal

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