MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Jake Paul Defeats Anderson Silva | Calvin Kattar | Weekend Boxing Recap | Ep 368

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

On Episode 368 of Morning Kombat Luke and Brian break down Jake Paul's win over Anderson Silva. What did the guys think of his performance? Will he fight Nate Diaz or Tommy Fury next? Next up the guys break down UFC Fight Night: Kattar vs. Allen. What does the UFC do with the top of the featherweight division right now? The guys also break down Bellator 287, Lomachenko vs. Ortiz and Taylor vs. Carbajal. As always we close Monday's show with Dm's from Donks and HYSTS. Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life. This is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. Hi, BC. hi bc nice to see you i play in the band slaughter to prevail how are you are you guys still on the dead children tour? I mean, this is... Hey, everybody.

It's Halloween. Hi. My name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of your hosting duo for a very, very, very late morning combat. I'm joined by the man who you can blame for that. It's my friend and yours. Although I look like I'm purple with this white balance. It's Brian Campbell.

What's up, BC? Technical issues is what's up luke maybe all those years that i uh fought against the the scary satanic holiday that you so uh blazingly project uh it's coming back to haunt me as nothing works today luke okay so um do you like my pumpkin my scary pumpkin outfit i do i do like that that's that's right remember we saw a like a grifter in phoenix wearing that same jacket as you you mean a drifter yeah yeah yes we did uh hi everyone we're late as balls so we're gonna get this going here pretty rapidly that's brian campbell i'm luke thomas fresh off the plane from phoenix and when i say fresh i mean expired i mean throw that shit

out it was like the milky open oh god that's chucking us in the garbage right now you can do that but BC I went to bed with my daughter last night at 8 30 so I actually feel pretty good but we have a lot to get to today wrap up on Jake Paul UFC wrap up on boxing over the weekend there was Lomachenko Katie Taylor a whole bunch of stuff thumbs up on the video if you're watching please hit subscribe one more time apologies to you all for the delay it was not intentional it was an accident we did our best to get it up here and running so thank you for sticking it out sorry for being late bc want to remind everyone showtime.com is the label that pays you can go to showtime.com get a 30-day free trial if you like it you can keep it if not you can bounce plus 3.99 a month thereafter you can get the shirt that bc is

wearing at morningcombat.store. You can see it right there. You got polo shirts and everything else in between. And, of course, Wednesday's fan subs, Friday's Dead Wrong, morningcombat at gmail.com. BC, anything else you want to get to off the top? You want to get this ripping and roaring? I'm a little emotionally wounded from all of the technical setbacks that I've endured this morning, Luke. But, you know, even though I quite generously offered that we just quit today, the show, maybe even our jobs, I'm thankful to the staff for getting this out today, Luke. Okay? We squeezed it out.

We're here. I mean, look, I'm working on a camera quality of like a 1998 Samsung brick phone, but we're here. We're here. You actually look just fine. I mean, well, on camera, I mean, you look like you've been just fine i mean um i mean in well on camera i mean you look like you've been hit with a sledgehammer a few times but yeah um you know i'm not gonna make a pelosi joke with the hammer but you know you don't look great i'll just put it that way you don't look great uh but okay bc i hope everything was good with travel yesterday

without further ado let's get this party started shall we topic number one as we move into today with a very caffeinated and excited brian campbell let's wrap things up on this let's put a bow on it we can be done with it and then we'll get to ufc but let's talk about jake paul here for just a second to kick things off bc defeating anderson silva via unanimous decision and we talked about this on the post fight show a little bit on saturday night we've had time to reflect b BC do you understand any of the scoring controversy such that it exists about this fight I don't think there's much of a scoring controversy to be honest I thought it was a competitive fight I thought in a lot of ways it was kind of what we thought it

was meaning no one was really sure exactly who was going to come out on top and the reason for that was because we were accurately identifying this as Jake Paul's toughest boxing test to date. I think the real debate coming off of this is really how you want to frame Jake's performance and what it means moving forward. It was a close fight. I had the fight even ultimately over eight rounds, four rounds to four with Jake Paul's knockdown in the final round being the difference. But as we indicated immediately post-fight, of those four rounds I gave to Anderson Silva, two of those involved him flurrying in the final 30 seconds. And boy, was that close. You could have just as easily gone the other way with Jake.

I have no problem with the judges scoring. The only issue I've had is the push, the conspiratorial push, which normally I'm the front-line leader of, that this was somehow staged or that, you know, Anderson, look, he could have knocked him out. Look at how much he was laboring at times. Well, folks, he's 47 years old, all right? But we said coming in, he's still skilled enough, had made that transition successfully enough to boxing,

that he potentially could have been a problem for Jake. And by the way, he would have been had Jake, let's give him credit, not made the continuous advancements, little evolutions in his game, 10 months removed from when we lost seeing him in that Woodley rematch. I thought he made tremendous advancements, gave Silva a lot of trouble. There were pockets that Silva thought, great, that it looked like he even hurt Jake and might've been sending him into exhaustion. But youth was served on this night because Jake is getting better now at 6-0. And, you know, if you want his seventh fight to be against a 20-0 contender, it's just not going to happen. But where he is and with the type of opponents that he's seeking out,

this was a step in the right direction because, Luke, you and I said it best. If the fights aren't fun, you and I said it best. Uh, if the fights aren't fun, no one's going to buy Jake Paul's in this spot because he's a celebrity who also works really hard at his craft to make these fights viable. If they're not as fun as Saturday night was this balloon's going to pop. I think we have to all be honest and say, uh, you know, separate from what our expectations were, he's getting better. And I think the movement to see him fight a continued stretch of celebrity names, whether that be retired UFC stars or whoever he can fight, I think it's going to continue to grow.

The more that he wins and the more that he puts forth performances exactly like this. Look, there's a little Zapruder film of that knockdown. There's an angle from the crowd where it looked like Anderson maybe didn't get hit flush, but hey, look at the other 16 angles when you can see it hit right on the side of the face. It was a nice punch from Jake. On my card, it sealed the victory. I didn't think he'd win, and he did, so color me impressed. Not impressed he's going to win a world title tomorrow, not under the belief that he should ever try to. He's a crossover fun celebrity fighter who's taken this very seriously. And whether you tuned in or not, whether you care about this or not,

you got to give him a little bit of that respect. I mean, I think this is real pretty, pretty basic BC. We talked about this at length. I'm not going to go over the point again about how he has picked a fight with an industry. But I will say this, you know, and it's still very early into the stages of this. He's only had fights against, well, Askren, but real fights, longer fights against two UFC fighters. Obviously, Askren was a decorated athlete. I don't want to diminish that.

But in terms of what the fight was, there was some resistance from Woodley. There was obviously a fair amount of resistance from Anderson Silva. Two things I would say, BC. One, you can't find five rounds for Silva in this fight. You can try, but they don't exist. You can find four. You can definitely find four. And, of course, that would make it even given it's an eight-round fight,

but the knockdown being the difference. I think that's utterly reasonable. I think you can find five rounds for Jake. I don't think you can find six. That's where it starts to get real silly. But the basic idea is four is your best-case scenario for Anderson Silva with the knockdown being the decider. The scoring here is not.

It's only controversial. I mean, listen, guys, if you spend 364 days a year telling us you don't like boxing, your opinion on the 365th, not going to be that relevant. Just got to warn you up front, okay? So if you don't like boxing, that's fine. If you don't watch boxing, that's also fine. But your opinion after that point becomes fairly irrelevant that's the first thing i'd say the second thing i'd say is as we indicated last week bc jake paul has picked a fight with the mma industry i gotta tell you up to this point and this is why i think you see some of the reactions

being as outsized as they are it's because he's winning he's winning the fight he's picking now it's not over yet. We'll see what happens as he goes through. The reason why everyone is now all of a sudden reacting so negatively and so outrageously is because it kind of sucks that he has picked this fight with the MMA industry, if you're an MMA fan or you stick close to that community, and that he's actually sticking it to the community. He is taking the legends.

Of course, they're getting big money, but he's using that to gain credibility, which I do think he turned a corner on Friday, at least some kind of a corner on Friday, whatever that corner might be. It's certainly a better spot than he was post second Woodley fight. The tape that we examined speaks to that, but the reality is he is needling, he is poking, and

he did something that I for a fact said I don't think he could or should or would even recommend he do. He did it. He won. It was fair and square. It was close. It was close.

It was fair and square. And him doing this is driving everyone inside of MMA out of their mind. They claim they can't stand it. They're huffing on a lot of copium this morning. And they're very, very upset about it, which I understand. But it only proves that this effort he's undertaking for his own purposes is working it is working it's you know and i get a lot of people who it seems like those are the same people like us who predicted he wouldn't win

and then he did and then all they want to do is break down and predict you know break down why anderson was too old look anderson fought very well for a 47 year old transferring into a new sport. Let's like, let's be real with this, guys. Like, if you don't like it, don't buy it. That's always the first case of it. But Jake didn't have an amateur background. Outside of calling out Canelo because he just wants to make some massive, massive

event, you know, he's not actually trying to become a quote-unquote real fighter. Within this celebrity bubble, the reason why he fights guys that are a little bit smaller than him, a little bit older than him, because this is entertainment. It's very real inside the ring,

but what he's doing is more or less scratching a bucket list option, found something that he loves doing that he got addicted to, and oh, by the way, he's getting better. If you're only in this to find him, to see him have his judgment day, well, stay tuned.

He's been matching fairly consistently higher at each step. It can, in hindsight, could you criticize, you know, Askren on the hip surgery, never had hands. Of course, Nate Robinson boxed for a week before that and Easton Gibb back to the gas station, uh, diabetes or not. You could make all of those things, but like, I don't get the clowning of us saying, you know, this was his biggest test today and he passed it. Did you not watch Anderson Silva versus Chavez? Okay. So look, look, Jake's doing what he wants here. And what he wants to do is make noise, get people to hate him on the MMA side and win and keep fighting. He's opened up,

he's opened up a new door. This could have been the end. Had Jake Paul got knocked out, could you still made a Nate fight? Maybe, but this could have been the end. Hey guys, he won the fight. So it's going to keep going, you know, and it's up to you to fast forward if you want a morning combat

or just avoid it altogether. But we were there Saturday night. The arena was packed. It was a different kind of audience. Actually, to be fair, it was an MMA audience who were praising Silva and it was filled with active UFC fighters. This is a weird, interesting sort of incubator of boxing. That's not really boxing, but if we get fights like we had on Saturday, it's going to be hard for any combat sports fan

to ignore this altogether. It was fun fun it was intriguing and it was a competitive fight in which the younger man won yeah i guess the last thing i would say on this bc in terms of the scoring itself is is just that this was to me like here's the way you should be viewing jake paul i think from the mma perspective this is my view now if you don't like this kind of boxing fine like the whole argument that you should be forced to watch it no you shouldn't you should watch whatever you want you should like whatever you want but the idea that it's tearing down boxing doesn't seem to me correct and the idea that it's bad for MMA I mean the rivalry is in some ways exposing some of MMA's flaws but everyone who is participating in these things seems to be getting something out of it I mean all the fans who were there were

certainly MMA fans but BC BC, it leads me to this final point, which is a question I want to pose to you. After watching, I didn't know what to make of the crowds in Cleveland, and I wasn't sure about the one in Tampa either. It was an unusual crowd. But the crowd there on Saturday night, I mean, those were MMA fans to the number. There was hardly anyone there who was there for boxing David Benavidez is the hometown guy and a big name boxer when they put his face up there on the big screen the MMA fans didn't know who they who he was and they show Sean O'Malley and he got a massive pop and even Jake Shields got a bit of a pop and Jake Shields hasn't competed for at least in the UFC for or Strikeforce

in a very very long time how would you know if you who Jake Shields is and not David Benavidez if you're a boxing fan that makes no especially if Shields is and not David Benavidez if you're a boxing fan? That makes no, especially if you're in Phoenix where David Benavidez is from. It doesn't make any sense. There were UFC fight kits. And, you know, people hate when I bring this up, but it was just, it was largely, not exclusively,

but largely white people there. Like, I've been to a million boxing events where it was majority black. I've, in all of my years in watching MMA, I've never one time seen an event where the audience was majority black. Just never. It's never happened.

So it was all MMA fans, and that's fine. You don't have to be anything else. I'm just pointing this out. BC, is Jake Paul a MMA star or a boxing star? I know he fights in boxing, but I got to tell you, after watching who was there in attendance on Saturday, I'm beginning to rethink his position here.

He actually might be an MMA star. All the ones MMA fans hate, but a star just the same. I mean, MMA star, a star that MMA fans watch because he fights retired MMA fighters. Yes, not an MMA star. But I mean, what you say, though, really is just it's how you have to frame this. It's entertainment. Now, fighting in general is entertainment. It's prize fighting. This is extra level entertainment, but Saturday Night was

entertaining. So I think that the pivot here is, you know, what are the viable fights moving forward for Jake? I think the topic is still relevant of, you know, when does he quote unquote cash himself out and go for it? Well, Saturday night could have been that, as we just said. Look, here's the thing. It's like, you know, we ripped the second Woodley fight. Pretty damn boring. It wasn't fought at a high level. I thought this fight with Anderson and Jake for two more or less amateurs in a sense was at a pretty high level. You know, it's going to be interesting because I think the one thing Jake has to do to

keep the public interest is continue to escalate the danger that he's welcoming in this silo. Who are the dangerous ones? Because I'm not expecting him to, to take, look, if he takes on a, a six and O or a 10 and O cruiserweight,

they're going gonna have a in an extreme level of advantage over him going back to the amateurs and all that who within this bubble and obviously nate diaz is the hot name we had a brawl backstage who within this bubble now because anderson was the guy he was the boss at the end of this crossover celebrity boxing video game who's that new boss in your eyes luke for jake yeah now that we escalate the matchmaking with each successful win all right so then that leads us to point number two so we'll follow along here topic number two right in line with your question bc which i think is the appropriate pivot who do you go to next right what would make the most sense bc it seems to me

you tell me if i'm wrong he's got two basic choices here one nate diaz which of all the possible choices is by far the biggest and i think the one that folks would get most excited about now what's interesting bc is i did see some smart people inside the community note well geez if jake can beat anderson couldn't he beat nate i would submit to you that yeah there's a certain good chance he could do that. On the other hand, Jake had no inside fighting. And where is Nate Diaz the best? Right up against you. Pressing up at you into the fence line or the rope line in this particular case.

And I think there's a good reason to believe that he would take Jake's lunch money there. The other one, of course, would be on the Tommy Fury side, which, of course, you'd have to do in England. Those two seem to me the best choices. Am I wrong? Is there a third wild card? Why would he go with one over the other? I agree. I think, look, if his end goal is to, quote, unquote, become legitimate, and I think that if that opportunity became there, right, 6-0 now, he ends up being 20-0.

I mean, 15-0. It's a much different conversation. I do wonder though, Luke, I think Nate Diaz, without question, in every category, is that next fight. Is there a little bit of fear because he just beat Anderson, who's bigger, and in theory, we would think maybe a little bit easier of a transition for him than Nate to this boxing game, but the Diaz brothers have been boxing forever. They used to spar Andre Ward 10 years ago. I mean, they've been around the game. How much longer can Nate fight the smaller fighters,

the fighters that he, on paper, will have a distinct advantage of? Because, Luke, it's like, without having fighting experience, Jake has to have a built-in advantage to kind of make this work as he's learning on the job that advantage can be age it can be size Silva closed the size gap which made this past fight interesting I do wonder if he's got you know a year left or so depending on the entertainment quality of the fights to continue to match down physically meaning on paper Jake Paul versus Nate Diaz probably the biggest fight he can make right now Jake Paul versus Nate Diaz, probably the biggest

fight he can make right now. Jake would be the, you'd have to think the betting favorite. He's showing now that with that size, he's got respectable enough defense. We're at this level, meaning incomplete fighters crossing over. Man, he's pretty damn good. So if his 2023, I saw a lot of people tweeting saying, look, you know, love him or hate him, but his 2023 could be Tommy Fury in England, Nate Diaz in a super fight, and then maybe, you know, GSP to close it. Obviously the reason why I laid it out in that order is because Nate Diaz has to get out of that exclusive matching window of the UFC now that he's on, you know, supposedly

out of his contract. There's that extra language in there. I think that's a viable path. I think the biggest question we're going to have to have is if his interest is still in this to do this, and it seems like he's only getting more interested in it. If he keeps winning, that's when this, this, this thing needs to be scaled up. That's why I'm sort of saying, look, you want to, you want to clown on this guy because you hate him. Fine. Okay.

But the re the realistic nature of it is he's making big events, he's getting better, and they're getting more exciting each time. He gets through this year with those big names. I don't know how much longer he can target the aging welterweight or lightweight UFC fighter. It's going to have to be a whole new category based directly on the fact that he's only 25 and he's getting better at this. But yes, Luke, I mean, look, the proof will be in the pudding in terms of the pay-per-view results for this, which we don't have yet, but it was a sold-out arena we saw. How big is this Nate fight in your eyes?

Big. Big? Big, real big. I think with the right promotion and a few things going their way, that could sell potentially a million pay-per-view buys. I think it's big. I mean, Nate was – who was the biggest star? That's a lot of buys.

Who was the biggest star in the building on Saturday night, including Jake Paul and Anderson Silva? It was fucking Nate Diaz. Yeah, he got mobbed. Anytime he tried to escape from a tunnel, he got mobbed. Dude, I took a picture, and I saw someone being like, oh, it was only 10 people mobbing him. No, there was a security fence.

And this is true. Nate went by our position, which was there was a barricade in front of us. And, you know, by the way, he rolls like 10, 15, 20 guys deep every time. Dude, they couldn't get to their seats even with security escort. They couldn't get to their seats. So they had to go back through the tunnel and go to a different spot to get it because they literally could not walk through the promenade on the floor seating that's how fucking mobbed he was and you know bc you know it's gonna be fucking oil and water when those guys get together it's gonna be clashing their camps were nearly fist fighting backstage so you add that element in there the nade ds

popularity element and what jake is pulling off where everyone just can't fucking stand him inside mma and i think it does big numbers. There's, there's, there's look, when you're doing this sort of oddball fight, there's gotta be some pro wrestling chicanery in there in terms of the promotion. And I actually give Nate a lot of credit for starting some shit backstage and sort of, you know, starting to grind those gears for when he is ready, when he is available. Uh, I agree with you. This is a monster fight. And I think the animosity buildup between them will make this a big deal. Luke, in light of the question that I asked before that, though, in terms of, you know, how much longer can he keep fighting

smaller guys? Does he have to start scaling that model upwards to fighting not only guys his own size, but a little bit younger? And does it have to be aging MMA fighters or can it be aging boxers? I mean, what is going to be the potential, you know, what type of matches is he going to be looking for after this group? Fury, Nate Diaz goes by and who knows if GSP wants to be involved in this, but another smaller guy moving up. Do you need him to start taking on the late 30s retired UFC guys who are 205 pounds? It's not like I'm not invested in his career like I'm the one advising it. He can just do whatever he wants to do.

If he wants to go and fight a certain way to preserve the longevity of it or versus not, I'm not really invested in it in that way. But this is why I asked that question. You didn't seem to like the phrasing of it, but I i'm not really invested in it in that way but this is why i asked that question you didn't seem to like the phrasing of it but i do think it's worth thinking about guys if the audience showing up to watch you lose and by the way jake paul got booed like a motherfucker in that arena if the audience showing up to watch you lose as mma fans and the people buying your products are mma fans i talked to boxing journalists and they were telling me that they were like they could just tell from the audience who was coming in who it wasn't how much there was that this was targeted towards an MMA audience in terms of who

was receiving the message yeah he doesn't fight MMA doesn't get anywhere near it and I understand why you do have to ask yourself what kind of a star is he he doesn't have he uses boxing but is he really a boxing uh celebrity more than he is an MMA celebrity no No, he's not. He's much more an MMA celebrity. Here's what I think though, BC, which gets to your question, which is that if he goes in there, let's say mobs the floor with Nate, which, you know, who the hell knows, but let's see if that happens. And if it does, you might get to a point where the MMA folks are a little bit tired of it because you won't be able to get someone young who they can actually get tested against. So he might then transition to boxing and then become something of a boxing

anti, not anti hero, but like the same thing he's doing in MMA. Then he could go and challenge in the sport of boxing, right? Become the boxing villain in the way that he's been sort of become the MMA villain. That may happen in which case there could be all kinds of different pockets

of guys, younger, bigger, whatever that he could go to. But I think as long as he's fighting MMA guys, it's going to be the ones that are a little bit older towards the end of their careers who could get out of their contracts and have a big enough name. That's just the reality of it.

So keep riding that until it no longer works, it seems. It's going to be interesting, Luke. It's going to be interesting moving forward. I mean, the cries to escalate the matchmaking will only continue. But when you've got a big event like that, potential Nate Diaz, and I think what you brought up is interesting. How long is that matching window from the UFC? Will they be willing to stand guard at the doorway

and prevent this fight under any circumstance? That's probably going to be the big decider of it. In the meantime, could you make a Fury fight? Absolutely, and I think there is some intrigue in there. But are you starting to believe even more of what we already believe, that Tommy Fury might be the right opponent in the same vein that Chavez Jr. was

for Anderson Silva, but the Jake we saw on Saturday, he may have no issues with Tommy Fury at all. Yeah, I gotta be honest. I thought after Tommy's last performance that Jake was gonna win. After this one, I'm fairly confident. I don't know how competitive that would be to be perfectly honest with you. Um, I guess we'll have to see, I guess we'll have to see, but it's worth thinking about out there, folks. Like if you're

super mad at Jake and you're super mad that he's doing this, it's because he's winning. It's because he's winning and people don't like that. And I understand it, but it's reality. Okay. BC, let's move on to some UFC here. If we can now now unfortunately ah it's not good news and i gotta say bc the run of fighters this year who are getting injured and including just the featherweight division alone right out of the gate in the beginning of these fights is crazy so calvin cater and arnold allen the two best fighters who competed this weekend i mean obviously silva's the in his heyday was the best what we're talking about currently these are the two best fighters who competed this weekend anywhere I would say well Loma was certainly on the case of their in terms of the boxing side but get the idea two highly highly

accomplished featherweights and the first round was pretty good BC it was pretty competitive but you saw there was that jumping switch knee he tried Calvin Cater and it injured his knee it was towards the end of the round he survives he goes back out and then right away he gets it injured. Now, before we talk about what it means for the featherweight division, should he have fought that second round? I'm going to leave it there. What do you think? It's easy to say no based on that he fell apart, you know,

the first time he came out in that second round. I think, though, when he went back to the corner and you heard his corner ask him, and he was like, I don't know. I don't know. He was scared by what happened. He didn't get a chance to really stand up immediately after as Allen tried for a submission. And then we saw the end of the round. The fighter, the warrior in him is going to give himself every chance to try to continue.

I wasn't upset by what took place. The first time Allen tried to go for a calf kick, Cater was down. He was hurt. The fight was over. No more conversation to be needed. I think in this case, it's certainly unfortunate. We did not get the answers we were looking for. The only silver lining is that we did get nearly a full round before the injury,

and it did look like Allen was controlling the fight, and he looked fairly impressive. Although, look, this's a five round fight. Who knows what type of seeds you're planting in the first round, what type of reads you're making. But this did look like Allen's fight. It's a tough blow for Cater, who's been able to reinvent himself after big defeats and still look to be a player here. But at this age, you don't know how long this recovery is going to be. And now you've got a guy in Allen who's extending that win streak to the type of distance, the

type of level now. What is he, 12 wins overall in a row, 10 in the UFC? Then it's going to be hard to keep this guy out of the title conversation. This, in theory, would have been that fight that, like his win over Hooker, that would have really allowed us to affirm him as that. Do you think Allen should, off of this, go directly to the top? Now, you can't go to the top, obviously, because Volkanovski's going to be fighting in the lightweight division.

Does he need another fight, Arnold Allen, to get the type of critical validation that this fight was supposed to? Do we gain, do we learn any, can anyone win off of this, is my real question, Luke? I don't, you don't lose. You definitely don't lose. You definitely advance at least a little bit, but the lack of clarity just means that there's more to be clarified. Now, let me put a pin in that. Just real quickly answer the question that I pitched to you. Should he have fought? These situations are always case by case. It's very difficult.

Here's what I'll say. did not like when Cater and his team when Max was just teeing off on him and then sending him back out there round after round I did not agree with that I thought after the fourth they should have called it and they didn't and I had a conversation with Tyson Chartier afterwards who is the you know the head of the New England cartel in terms of the coaching and everything and you know I think he understood some of their criticisms and they have their own choices to make and they're difficult ones I understand it but that's where I came down this one I'm a little less inclined because it happened towards the end of the round he wasn't exactly the first round anyway he wasn't exactly sure what had happened I can understand trying to

pull through we saw TJ Dillashaw get his knee popped from a heel hook attempt from Corey Sandhagen in the end of the first round of their contest, and then he came back and he won a five-round contest. So, you know, the overall record of corners or fighters just taking on injury loads that they can't possibly win with is voluminous. And so as a consequence, you you're always like here we go again in this particular case because of the very particular circumstances around it i'm not i'm not like i just feel like we should dial back some of the criticism here i do think that's fair

in terms of where we go bc that is now the dominant question i have the rankings in front of us here if we're looking at featherweight, obviously Volkanovski is your champ, but he's up a notch. So here's who we have inside the top four. We have Max. We have Yair. We have Ortega. We have Josh Emmett at four. They have Cater at five and Arnold at six, but you can put, I think they're probably going to switch places.

So now Arnold's going to jump up about a top. All right. So into the top five. So BC with Max, Yair, Brian, Josh, and Arnold Allen, what do you do? My answer is you do Yair versus Emmett and you do Arnold versus Max. That's one thing you could do. You could potentially throw in Brian Ortega if you wanted. I'm not sure how people feel about that. How do you fix that problem?

I like the two fights that you set up right there. And I think we have some concerns about Max from that performance against Volkov, obviously. It's also Alexander Volkanovsky, your pound-for-pound king. So Max is going to need the opportunity, if that's the direction he wants to go, to prove us wrong, come back and get a big win. I think for Arnold Allen, with this fight not giving him that affirmation I talked about, that stamping that he is ready for a champion, fighting a former champion, an absolute star, and Max Holloway most likely in a big fight night main event or in a high spot on a pay-per-view, that's as close as you can get to a world championship. That gives you the commercial opportunity to break through as well as critically.

Luke, I saw some people bring up the idea of floating an interim title out there because Volkanovski has the potential to be tied up for a bit. You know, if he's going to fight once outside the division, that's at least six months out of the game. If that's the case, you're looking more at Yair and Josh Emmett for that interim title, correct? Yes, and those were the two guys that we had spotlighted previous to this moment that were kind of like the two most deserving.

Again, Arnold, with this win, only enters the top five. Josh Emmett, we were like title shot. Yair, we were like title shot. So I still feel like he's a step back. I guess you could also do Arnold Allen versus Ortega. That's another route you could go if you don't know what to do with Max as well. So there's some questions there. Yeah, the division's fun.

Tough break for Cater. Allen's making movements, but let's not jump too far ahead, right? Yeah, I mean, I'd agree with you. I thought Arnold Allen in the first round, and there's just no way to tell how he would have looked in rounds two through five. But I agree with you. I thought in the first round, he looked pretty good, good man he looks like he's finally truly filled out to the weight class he looked like he had a good game plan he was on his horse he was landing and moving

um he had a big flurry against the fence against cater like he looked pretty goddamn good but you're still more to do and and credit to Arnold Allen by the way they put a microphone on his face Michael Bisping interviewed him, and the first thing he said was, ah, you know, like, how am I going to get an advancement off of this? You know, it's an injury one. Like, what are we going to do?

So he knew right away that this wasn't going to be enough by itself. The question is exactly how you sort the rest of it. And especially because Cater, I mean, I don't know how long he's going to be off BC, but I'm sure you saw the slow-mo replay. You can watch his knee pop in real time on the side of his leg like that thing is probably going to require surgery so he might be out for a while it just leaves an odd number that you don't really know what to do with

the top five and i just can't remember a time when like it was very unclear who inside the top five was deserving short of everyone already being beaten well i don't like the title being i like volkanovski getting this chance to be great. I don't like when a title is, you know, locked up and not being defended for six months or more. But look, it's interesting. You know how much I've always been against interim titles, yet I am liking the fallout of what putting an interim title on a fight is starting to mean, right? Going back to UFC 236, when the main and co-main event had unnecessary interim title bouts, yet both were fight of the year contenders and incredible.

So I want to bring up that old point I used to make, which I think is true. Just don't make it an interim title. Make it something different. I'm not saying you have to have a green jacket or a ring or something, but like my whole point is this. A fight should have, a number one contender fight, especially when the champion's busy, should have bigger stakes around it. I let you know,

you can make it a pay-per-view main event if you've got big stars. I like that people can get money, you know, a higher salary at an interim title level that they normally can. Just don't make it a world title because if we're going to start to use this gimmick more often, which is, seems to be the UFC's direction, you're just going to have a long list of people who are going to retire as former interim champions when it doesn't mean what it's supposed to mean, right? When you have too many. So just make it something different. Make it a different gimmick. Wouldn't you like that, Luke? Wouldn't you like the winner to have like a jacket put around them or like a cape or something or a ring or a headband that says i got next on

it luke you know what i mean and then you know holy hammer yeah like if josh emmett wins you know then it's like okay let's put it on him let's put on the holy hammer hashtag holy hammer he's got next everybody and then you take pictures with that thing over your shoulder and yeah yeah great idea luke you know what i mean holy hammer. If that's the case, make as many interim title fights as you want because the stakes are big. Just don't give them the same looking UFC championship that you win when you're the real champion. Because that's not it. So what do you do here, Luke? Just change the color of the belt so people know for sure that that guy who wore it is just the interim champion?

Or am I just really wasting time on a stupid show off this secondary camera that looks like it's the 1980s right now? I'm not even level, Luke. Maybe that's on me. Maybe that's technology getting me wrong. Are you liking where I'm going with this or just move on? I like the idea. I mean, I've been the one who's been saying, like,

the interim championships, you know, borrowed from the idea of boxing is a bit of a waste. But considering, A, I don't know what the fuck you're supposed to do in this division right now. And then, two, you indicated it indicated i've said it a million times like this is why nganu should have fought fought for a title excuse me an interim title when he fought against rosenstruck at that covid or during the the first show back from covid in may of 2020 whenever that was the i forget the number of the the ufc pay-per-view he should have done that here you

know what i'm gonna join to join you. Fuck this. What am I doing? Keep that there. Yeah, Aaron Bronstetter has said over Twitter that I'm dressed like Chuck Mendenhall today on Halloween, Luke, and I didn't, you know, I don't know if that's Chuck's gimmick, so I got to create something different here, right? I'm just saying he, like, with this,

you make the interim prize for more money. You know what I'm saying? Make the interim prize for more. Are we going to I'm saying? Make the interim prize for more. Are we going to go rob a bank? What are we doing right now? Are we going to rob a bank in a terrible Ben Affleck movie? What are we doing? If we do, we should buy better technology, okay?

That's what we should do, Luke. All right. I'm just pointing out with this, BC. Last point, and I'll take this mask off. Yes, there are ways to make the interim title more attractive, and there's things we could do, but just having it as we have it now is already, people should put a little bit more respect and prestige on it

because it actually does carry, I would argue, a little bit more value than the interim titles you see for like the WBO or whatever the fuck. Absolutely on that. Hey, Luke, did you see that BSL, Bloodstained Lane, called out Jake Paul paul and said he now believes absolutely that he has what it takes to beat him i mean jake paul is not a boxer luke he's an mma star in your eyes so why don't you go back after the ultimate mma troll and heckler

right i'd be down okay i'd be down to see that uh that'd be kind of fun but uh probably not going to happen probably not going to happen. Probably not going to happen. All right, back to Cater versus Emmett, Luke. That's all I really have. It's a disorganized mess currently at Featherweight, but it's just not, the roadmap ahead is going to be very unclear. I still think, again, if you're doing most deserving, last thing,

you're doing most deserving, most deserving interim title, Yair versus Emmett, period. That's it. Absolutely, absolutely. All right, let's go to, quickly, there's a Bellatorator event that happened it got kind of overshadowed by everything else that happened over the weekend it was in italy bc it was bellator 287 topic number four here i'm going to mispronounce his name because i watched the uh fights on mute but it's mansour i knew a mansour who was a singer in iran barnai, Barnaoui, I can't say it.

I can't say it. Barnaoui, Luke, it's Barnaoui, okay? Barnaoui. Shook up the lightweight division, of course, by beating Adam Piccolati, and dude kind of housed him, having his back for basically a round and a half until he finished him off with a choke. How does this shake up the weight class? I think it's a new player, and there was a lot of, you know,

under-the-radar hype for this guy coming in. He hadn't fought since 2019. I think they said on the broadcast, you know, he was over lot of, you know, under the radar hype for this guy coming in. He hadn't fought since 2019. I think they said on the broadcast, you know, he was over like 1,200 days inactive. I don't know if the math matches up there, but he came out here and instantly got, you know, got the attention he was looking for with that second round submission. Just seemed to dominate on the ground. This guy looks very interesting, Luke. He looks like he's a finished product ready to potentially wreck havoc.

30 years old from Tunisia. You know his last loss, Luke, was to Mateusz Gamrot back in 2016? Yeah, he's pretty good. This is now eight in a row for him. What is the story behind that long gap? Do you have an answer on that? I'm not sure. No, I don't know.

All right. Well, the long break, he's back. It was a strong Bellator introduction. And, you know, what does this mean for the lightweight division? You've got instantly a new player who's tall, long, and strong, especially on the ground, and was able to manhandle Piccolotti and really make a large statement here on Saturday. For me, remember what Scott Coker said earlier this year in September,

that there was going to be in 2023 a Bellator lightweight tournament. Let me read to you the rankings. Now, we don't know who's going to be in that tournament, but you've got to have eight players, including the champion. So right now, there would be Usman Nurmagomedov, Benson Henderson, obviously Patrycki, Tawfiq Musaev, Sidney Outlaw, Brent Premis, Alexander Shably, Islam Mamadov aj mckee and peter queely then of course now you can add mansour to the list dude that that's all of a

sudden like that's a great division we talk about bellator's lightweight division is pretty strong their light heavyweight excuse me their featherweight division anyway and then we talk about their light heavyweight division is also pretty strong here i would say lightweight this is a good introduction to it. Again, this fight wasn't even fucking close. By the way, what's his face? Mansoor out there hitting the Giggler sweep in modern MMA. It's a surprising sweep.

He shouldn't be able to hit it, but he did. He gets it, gets on top, finds the back relatively easily in the second round, and then closes the show. Dude, I would put him. I mean, can he beat usman number gabinov i don't know benton henderson i don't know tofik musaev i don't know and then alexander shabley sitting at six i wouldn't know about that either but any other guys could he beat him yeah like i think he could very much beat him so uh this is a very fun new introduction at just the

right time for bellator as they head into the lightweight grand prix whenever that will be coming up next year a A good, good addition. And also just good to get guys internationally for when they want to go back to France. I think he has actually French connections as well. Fun little addition. Fun little addition, I have to say. You know, there was a preliminary, preliminary card.

There was some dark bouts. There was like 20 fights on this card. It was ridiculous. Yeah, you see a lot of that when you have regional shows where they're just kind of keeping guys busy or they own a certain amount of fights and they don't have broadcast time for it. Shout out to Mansour for the big win.

Luke, you haven't had Mansour since you were an angry, single, lonely guy, right? I don't even know what that means. I knew a guy named Mansour. He was my best friend's uncle, and he was a singer. Old Mansour could sing in Farsi, but he could sing. You don't even want to talk about Chase Hooper getting sent to the rare bunk of hell, Luke? That was a rough day.

Yeah, I was going to do that for a little bit later. What did you think about it? Tough, tough, you know, tough development for a guy whose jiu-jitsu is better than the rest of his game and maybe giving him a higher level of confidence than the development of his game and maybe giving him a higher level of confidence than, than the development of, of,

of his full skills has necessitates has necessitated Luke. That was tough to watch, man. Got dropped three times, got finished in just over a minute. Yeah. I mean, this is the problem with going to the UFC too early.

You know, everybody thinks that they're ready and I'm not picking on chase. I think he's a smart guy and maybe he did think he was ready. Maybe he thought he could, you know, leverage his skills, but you just got to be really careful about that. It's hard to know. Fair enough.

These decisions aren't easy. And again, it's not like anybody's making huge bank on the regional scene. I totally get it. But if your timing isn't right in terms of when you enter the organization, not only will you not get your maximum results, but you could actually set them backward a little bit. I don't know if he's necessarily in that spot yet, but it's a tough run, man.

It's a tough spot. I don't envy it. He's a smart guy, so I think he'll figure out the right path one way or the other. But, you know, everything's got to be in place at the right time. And if it's not, it's just not going to work. So it seems like it may have been a little bit rushed. We'll see.

All right, BC, let's finish things off here on the boxing side of things. Well, look, I wanted to say that this may end up becoming our worst episode of all time. And if it does, I just want to thank everybody who stays with us until the end, and we'll make it up to you in a big way, okay? Okay, we don't have to, like, tell them that,

but I guess we can. Yeah, this might be as low, as bad as it gets right me arguing over a camera not plugging in correctly and for 40 minutes my spirit for life in the process and just yeah now i look all right let's keep it together let's keep it together let's keep it together topic number five let's get back to boxing here for just a little bit, a bit of a roundup very quickly. BC. Vasily Lomachenko gets it done against Jermaine Ortiz, but barely here's one where I was very wrong.

I thought he was going to go in there and march down this guy. And that didn't happen. Now Lomachenko did win, but you had Ortiz coming to a strong start early, switching stances midway through. And then Lomachenko having a bit of a late run there through the course of that fight, but he had to earn it.

What was your biggest takeaway from this fight? Yeah, I think it was a little bit of everything that came together and made a recipe for a very entertaining fight, and that little bit of everything is Vasily Lomachenko, all for nearly a full year, you know, on the front lines there in Ukraine in sort of like a neighborhood battalion group that was protecting the area he comes from. So he's been out of the game and he's also a slow starter, which I thought was adequately pointed out by Tim Bradley on the broadcast that, you know, he was a slow starter

against Teofimo in that big loss that he had a couple of fights back. But once he started to make the adjustments, you did see the Loma of old come back and boy, did he make some big time adjustments late when he really poured it on. And thought the division the decision was rightful in his favor but both of us really overlooked the potential here for jermaine ortiz who has had a big year one on showbox in the main event then went on to espn and retired jamelle herring with a big decision win and luke in this one look when someone's fighting their former sparring partner and we didn't necessarily like you know Wilder against Helene so you never love that because you you think oh the bigger name the better fighter of the two he already knows he can handle that guy we do have to be careful on putting

the scarlet letter on those type of situations because in then in this case particularly Jermaine Ortiz was confident from the time he put in more than a year ago preparing Lomachenko for his win over Richard Comey. And, you know, when you are sparring, you're trying to mimic somebody else. And as he talked about in the lead up to here, he didn't show Lomachenko during that sparring that he can switch stances, that he can do some things. When you've got an unbeaten hungry guy in Jermaine Ortiz who's trying to make his moment and he was in this fight, you know, that whole adage of, well, he doesn't know how to lose. I think that was the case here. Jermaine Ortiz fought his balls off. Was he better in the first half than the second half? Yes. But he switched stances, as you indicated. His speed was, you know, faster than I expected it to look against somebody like Lomachenko.

And even though he's not really a pure boxer and not really a pure puncher, his hybrid game was enough to make this a compelling fight, a very high level fight that I thought was the right test for Lomachenko to prepare him for the next time he's ready to swing big, which looks to be Devin Haney, who was in attendance in that front row, has all four lightweight titles. Lomachenko, the former unified champion in this division before his loss to Teofimo, that, yeah, sometimes even you and I need to slow a bit and let the fight play out because you can't win or lose on paper. And in this case, Jermaine Ortiz fought his ass off, tried his best, but I think the guile, the ability to switch, the ability to cut those angles

and get right in Ortiz's face with the kind of, you know, curious, crafty punches he doesn't see coming. I mean, look, Lomachenko has always been the master at doing sort of a reverse two-punch combination. You want to see the best of it? Look up his knockout of Rocky Martinez, Roman Rocky Martinez, which happened in the same arena a bunch of years back in a smaller weight class. He doesn't lead with the jab. He leads with the power hand, but then comes back, squaring up with that straight jab. He landed that on Ortiz in key moments to take control of rounds. He scored a ridiculous knockout over Martinez that I mentioned with that.

He's just freaking crafty. We knew that coming in. It took him longer than I think a lot of us thought. But once he figured that out and switched it up, in the end, look, the scorecards read 7-5, 8-4, and 9-3. That 9-3 is crazy. Yeah, somewhere in that 7-5, 8-4 I think was the best scorecard overall. But I like that Lomachenko was tested. Could you be critical and come out of this going, man, maybe he's not still the same guy?

Well, look, he is aging, right? You also sometimes can only put forth a certain performance against, you know, how you prepare, how you assume the other guy's going to be. He made the adjustments he needed to. I think Ortiz overachieved. Lomachenko's aging just a bit, but I don't think that slows down the momentum of what can be a great fight between Lomachenko and Devin Haney and one that Lomachenko still can win because he can do things that nobody else can at the end of the day I enjoyed the fight I think Jermaine Ortiz grows from this loss I think he showed out on the very elite pound for pound level that he can be in a fight like this so I think all in all I was very happy with what I saw yeah I wouldn't I don't really have much to add to that BC except to say that as you indicated they brought Devin Haney in

the ring he was doing a little bit of stuff not for commentary but at the desk but they were talking to him and that looks to be what's next I have to tell you I would have picked a year ago yeah about a year ago I still would have picked Lomachenko I think after what we've seen recently I'm going to go with Haney I don't know if you've made that switch yet I don't know how you feel but I I tend to think that this is not a this is not a version of Lomachenko who can't win BC but I'm not believing that this isn't a somewhat somewhat diminished version of him relative to his peak whenever you want to say that is I just don't feel like it's exactly the same guy and I feel like just that amount of slippage is all that needs to happen for Haney to be a little bit better.

We need to remind ourselves that Lomachenko is operating in a division. That's that's, you know, upwards of two divisions above where his actual physical prime was. And a reminder that he only left the 126 and 130 pound divisions because he got to a point where nobody would fight him. So already over his head in hindsight, did he start too late against Teofimo?

He rallied back nearly forced to draw. Yes. Let's also remember that that version of Teofimo, you don't find too many fighters that, you know, with that level of speed, power, and creativity that Lomachenko lost to. I would favor Devin Haney. I really believe, along with Shakur Stevenson, moving forward in this sport, that these two are the goods. These two will be competing for pound for pound lordship, and hopefully they'll end up fighting each other now that they're in the same division

sooner than later. But you want to talk about the ultimate test for Haney. He did what he had to do. He took the two fights in Australia against Kambosis. He's got the four titles. This is going to be an interesting fight. This is the ultimate chess match in so many ways. But Luke, we need a Lomachenko who's going to enter that fight, realizing that he can't start too slow because those openings may not end up being there against somebody who's longer than him in Haney, who has top level speed, who has great IQ,

who's got some pop on there. I can't wait to see what it looks like. At least Lomachenko passed the test. Now we can make that fight happen. But I do want to reiterate that size difference. Tell me if I'm wrong. The first three or four rounds, Jermaine Ortiz, who again, fought aggressive, was quick, just size difference alone, it looked like he had the potential to overwhelm Lomachenko during the course of the entire night. So he's giving up a lot in these weight classes, which means, particularly in the second half of the fight,

when he turns it up, he's got to do more than expected to beat somebody like Haney. Yeah. And I think, you know, look at what Ortiz did in the first few rounds to gain success. He was behind a pumping jab. That jab was all over Lomachenko and setting range and it was hurting him.

And that's something that Haney really excels at. He has a phenomenal, active, working, educated jab. So that could be proved. hurting him and that's something that Haney really excels at he has a phenomenal active working educated jab so that could be proof and I also like your point to BC like Lomachenko starts slow which is true seems to me he's okay the fight against Lopez was really bad but in general I'm seeing him a little bit slower and slower each time to make adjustments very slightly but take some you know I would have thought he would have made

adjustments a little bit sooner in this fight you could say third round he got a little bit changed up but even then you know he was still having to work from behind in certain circumstances so again he's just a little bit little bit off of that elite pedestal he was on for a little while and I think that makes him a lot more uh fun given how much more parity there are in these fights. Now, last but not least, BC, takes us to Katie Taylor, who just wiped the floor with Karen Elizabeth Kadabahal, winning 98-92, 99-91, and then 191. Good Lord. She improves to 22-0.

BC, she wants a rematch with Amanda Serrano in Dublin. Is this the biggest no-brainer in boxing? Certainly in women's boxing. Oh, no question about it. Croke Park, make it happen, right? This is the fight. Katie Taylor's 36. She kept that unbeaten record alive.

She did what she had to do. She absolutely dominated. This was what? Was this her first performance since the Serrano fight? I believe that's right, yes. You know, the window is getting a little smaller. It's closing. She's not that the window is getting a little smaller it's closed and she's not as young you know she's not that young she had a long amateur career but she's the ultimate

consistent professional the only one that gave her any kind of trouble legitimate trouble was Delphine Pursun she came back and ran that back that rematch and clearly won and now she's had that fight with with Serrano I went back and looked up I scored that fight 96-94 for Katie Taylor there certainly was an argument for Serrano. It ended up being a split decision, but we do need to see that a second time. It's crazy how much that first fight, which was in Madison Square Garden, the Mecca, exceeded expectations, had the weight of the world on their shoulders of like, if anyone is ever going to watch a women's boxing fight and never has before, watch that one. That one was one of the best fights we've ever seen. It deserves to be, you know, run back in the biggest possible setting.

And given the fact that Taylor did win the first one, she's unbeaten. She's the bigger star, although Serrano more decorated across multiple weight classes. Let's do that for Katie Taylor. I mean, look, I don't know how much longer she wants to keep doing this. You know, could she fight Elisa Baumgardner or could Michaela Mayer win back her title and we can do fights? Yeah, there's always, you know, we're in a good spot women's boxing wise where there are some interesting options of people who can move up or down into Katie Taylor's window.

But, you know, if she fought Serrano a second time in her home country there in a spectacle, and if she was able to win it, I wouldn't be upset if she walked away right there. She's put forth a career that is going to be hard to rival, you know, in the history of women's boxing. Obviously, we've already had great legends, you know, Layla Ali, Hall of Famer, retired, undefeated. Didn't fight Ann Wolfe, though. A different story for another day, though. But it seems like Taylor's trying to fight everybody she possibly can. So this was the win she needed to keep the wheels moving,

defend those four titles. But let's just put a mythical date on that calendar for next year. And I don't think you can overblow how great that first fight was and how big this event could be for the sport if they do it again. Certainly agree with all of that.

Alright, BC. That's it for our top five topics. Let's do it now where the folks get to ask us questions. Oh, real quick, just want to mention it. DAZN had a separate boxing broadcast. Golden Boy, Todd Grisham on the call. Big win for unbeaten William Zepeda. Stepped in there against Jojo Diaz Jr., who, as we know, is as battle-tested as it comes in the smaller weight classes.

Always trying to fight the biggest name available. Basically shut him out across the board. Undefeated from Mexico. Don't confuse him with Jose Zepeda from top rank, who's going to be fighting for a 140-pound title against Rougarou coming up. But this other Zepeda is coming on. Luke, he handled Jojo Diaz in a way that I didn't see coming. So big ups to him as he continues his unbeaten run.

There you have it. All right, time now for DMs from the Diggity Dogs. Let's get to it. All right, as you guys know, we put up a post on Instagram. On Sundays, you guys fill it up with questions. The producers pick them, and BC rubs his eyes. All right, BC, from I think it's Ghost Hardware. After seeing Izzy, he put those awful tournaments he had in Auckland,

Uriah Hall and Anderson Silva box, is it safe to put to bed the idea that strikers and MMA have elite hands? BC, what do you think? Well, it's elite hands for their sport, right? For their particular sport, yes. I don't know if it puts to rest that they have, I don't know, it's matchup based. I mean, look, if it wasn't for the fact that UFC fighters under contract aren't going to leap out, when we were talking earlier about

Jake Paul may need to escalate and find someone more his size, but also in the same kind of category where they've got a little bit of experience, but not a ton. In a mythical world, wouldn't Izzy be the best matchup for him? Why Izzy? Who's bigger, can punch,

can move you don't like the idea of some mythical jake paul is he boxing match i mean you'd need uncle dana to get involved and you know i would say is he beats him is he has real boxing experience like professional isn't that the boss at the end of the video game in this jake paul experiment of not fighting real boxers in their prime but trying to make matchups with people that are famous for other reasons. That's an interesting one right there. If it were more available, I'd say yes, but it seems highly unlikely given the realities.

I would say this. I mean, I don't think folks understand just how different boxing is from regular MMA in terms of the striking. It's not the distance is different. There are obviously a lot of similarities that you want to incorporate, but that's just not the same kind of fight. Also, yes, Jake Paul is highly selective about who he fights. There's that as well.

But the other part is this too. Again, we're going to say it over and over again. Jake Paul's not a world-level fighter. He's not half bad. He's not half bad. He's kind of decent for what he is. I wouldn't have said that after either of the Woodley fights after this one. He's all right. He's all right. He's okay. He can do a little bit. And because he is specializing

in one kind of thing, and he is very selective over who he fights, you're getting the results that you're getting. Does it mean that guys like Uriah Hall and Anderson Silva and Izzy and their primes don't have relatively decent boxing games? Yeah, they're probably relatively decent boxing games. Izzy perhaps the best among them't have, you know, relatively decent boxing games. Yeah, they're probably relatively decent boxing games. Izzy, perhaps the best among them, given that he actually has a fair amount of experience in that. But, yeah. Well, it's a different, dude, not only is the footwork different,

the stance is different. I mean, everything about it is different. The range is different. The power is different. Everything's different. So, I mean, you can be a great boxer in the MMA sense, and it's not fully applicable in the boxing sense, unless you put in that worked and you're able to do that.

I mean, that was why again, folks, you know, it's easy now to, to do the whole Anderson Silva was a 50 year old. Well, first of all,

he's 47, but you know, he also didn't get knocked out. He fought well, it was a fun fight, but it's easy now to focus only on how old Anderson Silva was. But the reason why we focused on him being potentially the one that Jake reached too far was because he had made those adjustments to changing the MMA striking style to boxing. And it had, you know, further experience than most have.

You know, you pointed out, yeah, Izzy's a rare guy who has had some pro fights outside of this and maybe could make that same type of transition had he wanted to. But, yeah, I mean, it's all a grain of salt. It's like, you know, look, our— You and I not only predicted that Silva would win, but I want to state this one more time very clearly that, you know, listen, if you go out there and say, and I did say this, I did not think Jake was going to take this fight because I remember when Dana said it,

I was like, oh yeah, Dana's right. He'll never take this fight. If the guy actually does the thing that you say he won't do and then wins in the thing you said he not only won't do but can't do, you need to be consistent here and not move the goalposts

and be like, well, Anderson's 47. You need to say, yeah, the dude's better than I thought he was. I'll say it. He's better than I thought he is I'll say it he's better than I thought he is now again after the two Woodley fights I did not necessarily have that high of an opinion even now I recognize he's nowhere close to anything elite from the professional ranks he's all right he's not half bad and that's that's that's a pretty that's a that's a decent

thing to be BC do you think Silva kind of stole the perfect opponent like you know I know Jake may end up fighting a Tommy Fury and you know both Tommy Fury and Rockman are in the same category where they are real boxers, but there's some legitimate questions about either their work ethic or their effectiveness. I mean, Chavez Jr. really was the perfect opponent for Jake, but Silva kind of took that from him and exposed that, right? Yeah, it seems that way.

It seems like what, I mean, God, you know who comes out looking terrible in all of this is chavez jr my lord you know i mean his his stock after this it's not like we take away what anderson did to him because we saw it it was actually pretty impressive what he was able to do but in terms of what we can now say about the stock or ability or even the care level we have for Chavez Jr. at this point good lord it sunk even lower after this but I just I mean MMA fans if you went out there and said he couldn't do this and he wouldn't do it and then he goes and fucking does it dude you owe him a little bit of respect you you said I said he wouldn't do it I said he couldn't do it he fucking did like you just have to take your L like a man recognize this dude's a little bit better than you thought he was

and move on to the next. It's not that hard. All right. The whole idea about the specialization of skills, though, I mean, it's like, you know, are the people that win the gold medal in the Olympic decathlon, are they threats to win the gold in every individual category going up against them? No, they're not, right? It's an event made to showcase how well-rounded you can be. Right. Mixed martial arts has that in the title it's mixed it can show you know you can win with one discipline but at the end of the day to be consistent and to into and to win on the highest level you've got

to be able to do it all so it doesn't mean that if you pull i mean we saw when brendan shop tried to grapple that guy right uh cyborg abreu yes we saw what happened there luke was was not the most fun but you know again it's like people can't seem to realize that like the reason why they're lashing out at jake is because he's winning in this contest between himself and mma he's the one who keeps getting the upper hand and they just can't stand it it's like maybe just come to peace with it all right at jimmy underscore reed bc what do you guys think about askar askarov requesting his release from the ufc and apparently being granted i think i can hear bc's tears through the screen bc you go first no i don't have tears through the screen look first of all i like you know we have the

same rumor the week before is peter yan from dc considering leaving his situation is different than askrov i mean askrov didn't make weight right and that fight got pulled that's what happened right last time something like that yeah if he wants to go somewhere else that's fine i i want to live in a world where somebody can go you know what this is just not working out for me can i get out of my deal it's rare when it happens that's why we kind of talked to cory anderson that time on the rSD couch. Everyone's situation is unique, but I wouldn't cry over this. If Asgraf's like, F this, I want to go somewhere else. Then let's see it, Luke. He's going to be a threat. As long as you can get his weight on track, he's going to be a threat to win a world title in any organization. As he was in the UFC, he just was unable to fully realize that despite

having a draw with the former champion there, Brandon Moreno, and really only losing in a fight with Kaikara France, in which he may have come back too early. It was close, didn't quite do enough, wasn't at full capacity. I want to see this guy have his chance to be his best. If UFC's just not working out for him and he can get out of it, go. Go, dude. I did see it again. I want to be clear, it's not confirmed in any way,

but I did see some reports indicate that he may have some kind of long-term injury he's dealing with or some kind of ailment that he's trying to work through that that could be part of the reason for this so we'll have to wait and see it sucks for the division by new rule to live by in life you don't like where you're at and you can go, go. Get out of that toxic relationship. If it's not working out for you at the UFC, you want out and they'll let you out, go. If this is the worst episode in morning combat history and you're sick of Luke's jacket and the name Jake Paul, don't go. Don't buy us fights.

Don't show up on Mondays when we have tech issues coming off of a big flight and we're all angry and tired. Go. I think it's just you who's angry and tired i feel pretty well well well refreshed okay well anything all right bc at it's not cage fighting this is a weird question because i don't think that they will be but so far why has the ufc been unwilling to introduce an interim featherweight title despite volk not being available to defend for potentially 12 months they will put one in right it seems like a foregone conclusion yeah

they will because that's what they do um and and yeah we already we already laid out the good and the bad with that but bc how about this if volko's in there and i don't imagine this is going to happen but let's say he goes in there and then just aldo conor mcgregor jose aldo's him just one shot some blam so he's got like no injury to deal with like he feels fresh then they may have some choices to make but the chance of that happening is what close not quite but close to zero something like that yeah hey what type of substances do you think connor's taking for this roadhouse uh acting thing because remember that time sylvester sloan got caught in australia with like 7 000 pounds of hgh yeah i don't know what substance he's taking,

but based on what he's putting on social media, I'm going to say all of them. Stanazol? Stanazazol? I'm just going to say all of them. Okay. Winstraw? Yeah, yeah.

Whatever Ben Johns. The good news is because the adults are here, the anti-doping adults are here, they really have great transparency about it all. So I really appreciate that they're here and that they've really done what they said they're going to do so shouts to when you finally make the decision i know you're close but you're being a little wishy-washy when you finally buy in on this trt move for your own personal life luke i want you to go deeper than

trt i want you to find we'll find out exactly what ben johnson took at the 88 olympics remember when he just smoked carl by like, you know, three body lengths. We got to get you on that, Luke. It is tempting. I have so many dudes in my DMs telling me about all the ways they've taken steroids and how much it's helped their lives. I'm close.

I'm close. Well, look at, look at Lorenzo Fertitta. How happy he is. He looks happy. All right, BC, we got to move along from at Telvin. Keep Papa favorite Halloween costume. He put you ever weird. I'm going to guess it's war. how happy he is he looks happy all right bc we got to move along from at telvin kipapa favorite halloween costume they put you ever wearing i'm gonna guess it's war well he's from hawaii brah so he's like you know he's just like chilling right you know i like telvin kipapa a lot gotta

learn how to conjugate these verbs people all right what's your most memorable halloween costume you ever put together in war dude i've always had bad ones i've always had i've always had just shit cost i've always been lazy too of've always had i've always had just shit cost i've always been lazy to have like you know i was that kid who would wear the little league uniform out and just be like yeah i'm a baseball player what do you want from me give me your candy all right i don't really care about this i've never been a big halloween guy luke okay we make jokes about it now that like you know tuki is i mean dude she's been dressing up every day for the last like two weeks it's fucking believable um best costume i've ever

weared weird uh bc i don't i do all of mine have been fucking shit i can say all the times i've been like mocked for the shitty ones i've had dude i went i went to a party in uh third grade and you remember like there's good costumes or you could go down to like the cheap department store like we had ames department store and you could go down to, like, the cheap department store. Like, we had Ames department store. And you could buy for really cheap, like, the plastic costume. It'd be like, it looked like a poncho, and they had the plastic mask with the string. You know what I mean? It was like the, I bought a GoBots costume, and I wore that to that third grade Halloween party thinking I was going to be cool.

I walked in, and every single person had homemade costumes. Yes, dude. You know what? My fucking parents, man. My mom, my parents were split up. So I did virtually all of my Halloweens with my mom, except when I went to my dad's and he was just chucking out Roy Rogers coupons. In 1980s, Washington, D.C., just begging to be vandalized by every piece of shit in that neighborhood. Okay.

And he was, too, by the way. My parents always had this rule like you can be whatever you want but you have to make it i'm like motherfucker what is this fucking what do i look like the master of arts and crafts i can barely tie my fucking shoes why are you making me do this bullshit so i always had just the fucking shittiest costumes because i always had to make it like my parents are tim gunn and heidi klum and i gotta go fucking walk it out and show them how i did it you know uh later on so i mean i had like the world's shittiest ninja the world's shittiest fucking you know anything it was just all bad all the time to show you how old i was at that halloween party when i

stood in the corner embarrassed the whole party that I had the cheap like plastic costume and everybody else's parents like for hours, you know, made them the most. They played Thriller on vinyl the entire party. The dad just kept putting it back on, flipping it on record. Now vinyl's cool now, Luke.

I mean, I mean, look, I don't have to like show you how cool vinyl is. I mean, look at this, Luke have to show you how cool vinyl is. I mean, look at this, Luke. Look at this right here. Is that 2 Live Crew? Who is that? No, but it's pretty awesome. And I got another one for you, Luke.

Hold on. Are you just showing us women's asses today? What are we doing? I mean, look at this. I got a lot of rare ones, Luke. I mean, look at this. Oh, wait. Maybe not that one.

Maybe not that one. Yeah, yeah you know you get my point what's old is new but luke you know as a kid you know i'm so old that at that Halloween party they were playing it unironically you know there you go you have that within reach because you've been spinning that record dj scribble i know you're not no shout out shout out to my boy enic from nice price record and books in our rally north carolina sometimes he sends me some some fun records in the mail so do you remember dj scribble from 1990s uh mtv of course yes so do you remember his famous trick where he used to drink a 40 while he was where he where he would scratch uh no i don't remember that so he turned

out it was all alive you see it was filled with apple juice. He later confessed he would never actually drink a 40 and then scratch on our show. All right. Last but not least. Last one. Do you want to do like an Edward 40 hands throwback one time? Cause I was too old for that. Luke, I had like gotten out of the game by the time that I have done Edward 40 hands. Yeah.

I've played that stupid game. We should do that one night on it on this show. That's probably a lot of drinking. I don't want to do. All right. Lastly, from Jay's Graham 25, this is a weird weird question i'm not sure how comfortable i am with it luke if you could torture murder brian in a saw like way which way would you choose so that's a reference to the to the fantastic first saw horror movie just a class see i wouldn't do the saw thing where the

guy was just laying on his face the whole time in that torture chamber because I'm not that creative. But I got to say from what's the one with Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman? The heads in the box. Seven. Oh, shout out to Long Island. Look all over that where he made the fat guy eat all that stuff and then like burst his stomach. I would just never seen that station hot dogs until you just went. Yeah, I've never seen that movie yet.

I'll maybe I'll watch it. So we can talk. It's pretty, it's pretty good actually. Although they're in the, the detectives are using typewriters in the movie. So I'm guessing people who were born, you know,

20 years ago and now watching movies like that are probably like, what the fuck were they living like back then? I'm not sure what to tell you, but yeah, I probably just feed you to death BC. How does that sound? I mean, it's,

it's really dark. So what, maybe we should just move on and get into like some dark like videos of people getting injured really bad especially old people yeah i'm ready for some elder abuse let's let's go all right i'm sorry folks this has not been the dream episode i you know i gotta say the bill cosby record really got me that was yeah we find there's the one highlight of it you know we try to be real i mean look not everybody likes jake paul so for some people last week was a big mail in from this show i got it we're done listen listen we're done until he fights whenever the fuck next time he fights well i want people to know that through some of that i mean jake paul

content was some great stuff did you watch the pre-game preview with us danny and uh and sean alshadi luke i mean that was that was high comedy also also let me just say this I want to thank everyone who watched us do the commentary for the prelims BC and I got to call the prelims which by the way we were on the floor we got to call the prelims the guy who runs all of Showtime Boxing came over and wished us luck like I grant that some of you guys you may not be interested in Jake Paul coverage. I get it. But on some level, if you care about me and BC at all, which you don't have to, but if you do, it was good for us. It was good for us to get these reps.

It was good for us to get this opportunity. I know BC is certainly also calling Showbox, which is a great thing for him. But for your boy like me, I don't get chances like that absent these opportunities. So I got to be grateful for them when they come. I was grateful for it, and I'm grateful for everybody who watched who watched absolutely we'll be back at it this coming saturday by the way showtime championship boxing is back luke we'll be we'll be getting some prelim action again you and i so let's enjoy that okay uh what i did yesterday let's do it was i got off the plane and i complained about how tired i was and i was in the bathroom for a long time i gotta say bc this

was the grumpiest i've ever seen you on ac this was the grumpiest i've ever seen you on a trip this was the grumpiest i've ever seen you now it was aided by the fact or i should say worsened exacerbated by the fact that we had to drive seven and a half hours each way to get to the fucking stadium i mean we were like 40 minutes away but that's fine so luke let me apologize for that you know sometimes we hit certain ruts in, and then we got to look in the mirror and realize that, you know, I'm asking him to change his ways. So I'm going to, I got to clean up. Look, I got to clean up in a few key life categories. So that starts today.

All right. You won't see me that angry again. Life is too fun. All right. So what I did yesterday after I got out of the restroom an hour later was I scoured the globe for the high and low, the good and the bad, the ugly on the internet and combat sports and beyond. You can call it B says fee says, but I, I call it the share of the week.

Have you seen it? That's the question. Have you fucking seen it? All right. Hey, UFC fight night from the apex middleweight Treshawn Gore. Oh, I saw this. He choked out josh fremd luke what do you call this this was great i forget what the actual name of it is but basically it's

just an upside down kind of guillotine he's going to twist here and turn so it's a guillotine here and then he turns i think they call this like the exorcist guillotine it's just a guillotine but instead of him being face down on the mat he's face up i bet you he did that just for halloween brutal yeah just to celebrate halloween that's fantastic wow all right uh luke let's go to uh the audio here of khalil roundtree jr i did want to shout him out he had a nice win to open the main card a split decision over dustin jacobi he also took on some hecklers in the post-fight interview. Let's listen. Yeah, all the rounds were pretty even. We were both exchanging.

He hit me with some... Shut up! He hit me with some... Yeah, I second that. Shut up. Shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up, you little prick! They should just pull in Bob Arum. Bob, tell those hecklers to shut up. Look, I don't know if this guy deserves a hashtag holy hammer but roman delizze in that preliminary main event oh god drop the hammer on phil dawes damn look at this right hand bang oh

you know what he looks like a guy who has a very healthy and happy personal life luke he looked like he was in he had a good camp good fucking lord this fucking right hand golly damn i mean we don't talk about roman a lot he's got some power he's a he's an animal he can do it he can do it all right he likes beautiful women too luke yes he does who does all right hey paul hey paul pay short time pay-per-view from glendale um here is probably the highlight of the week when we sat down and we got licked by a horse, and then we got sent to hell by Uriah Hall. Let's revisit.

Yeah, we sure did. How are you, Uriah? I can't stand you. I really can't. All this is for show. All right, fair enough. Thank you. I can't stand either of these clowns.

In fairness, we can't stand this either. So I understand you, Uriah. I understand you. Good win, by the way, Uriah. Le'Veon Bell can fight a little, right? You know what? Of all the people I walked away most impressed by, it might be Bell. Bell looked surprisingly good.

I think Uriah thought what we all thought, that he was just going to walk him down and kind of just body him. Like, look, Uriah kind of fought the Floyd versus Conor style, you know, heavy high guard, just walked in. But he kept getting tagged, and I think he had to make some key adjustments there. Luke, real – oh, no, let's go to Jake and Anderson. I don't know if you saw this during their commercial shoot.

Who do you – who gets the – who's the better dancer of the two here? I mean, is this even in question? Anderson's out here like funk crip walking, and Jake is just flailing like a 55-year-old man at his teen's daughter's party. I mean, Jake looks like me at a wedding. Look, underrated skill set of your boy BC can tear up the wedding dance floor, can tear it up. All right.

See, I cannot, but I've taken salsa lessons. So if I have to roll that out, I can at least navigate that path a little bit. All right. You know, our producer, Ashley, I bragged about my dancing and hope that she would invite Morning Combat to her upcoming wedding. And no, no. Yeah. Thanks, Ash. Real big fan of yours okay hey look real real did recognize real in the locker room in glendale how about the aforementioned david

benavidez the super middleweight superstar dabbing up jake watch what's one time two times let's see hold on hold on three they should get a fourth go go for it a fourth time please that's four it is hold on five five a lengthy one at five if If you get to six, you got to bang it. I mean, they have to go on a first date now. They just have to go date. Second base. All right.

Hey, Luke, on that. Seven times, eight times, eight times, eight daps in the course of like 30 seconds. It takes just like BC. BC has dapped me up that many times in our lifetime. That's the amount of hugs your dad has given you, Luke. Yes, you can count them on

a hand and a half. We mentioned that we were hashtag blessed enough to be on the call for the preliminary bouts of the Showtime pay-per-view card on YouTube. Thanks for watching.

Here is up and coming heavyweight Jeremiah Milton delivering the boom. find his mark. Boy, did he. And that is it. And Milton taunts him afterwards by doing a bit of the shimmy. BC and LT, the up-and-coming progressive boxing duo. I mean, look, we've got real chemistry. I think I dabbed you verbally, you know, nine times on that broadcast. You did.

You did. All right. Hey, Ashton Silva had a huge first-round finish in the co-main event, but he turned some heads with his Halloween costume offering. Minion style, your thoughts? He's 18 years old. We can't judge him, right? No, I can't judge him, and my daughter loves the Minions,

so this would have been her favorite fighter. All right. This one's for Tukey. Thank you. Ashton did look good, by the way. He carried himself looked he looked sharp he looked sharp all right after the fight the big news was uh jake paul talking some ish to dana white let's hear a little bit of that dana dana what bro you said I wouldn't do this and I did it and with flying colors. But, you know, he's in hiding. You know, he he's trying to do everything he can to stop my run, to sabotage my fights. He hates me. He hates me. He hates what I'm doing. He hates I'm exposing his business. And now, you know, we're going to band together and create a United Fighters Association to help UFC fighters, all MMA fighters and boxers to get more fighter pay, long term health care.

And that's a big, big undertaking that I've been wanting to do for the whole entire time of my career since I met Nikisa. I said it to him on the first day I want to make a fighter's union um so man Dana White can suck this dick wow that was blunt that went aggressive uh there he's like I want to have a fighter's union suck my dick Dana look there has been people since we we tend to rate that tap bitch on this show there have been people that said we tend to rate that tap bitch on this show there have been people that said you're letting jake off easy for that tattoo he has over his ear on his head i didn't see the one on his his so some of his tattoos are like some of the newer ones are very good i've not really paid close attention to that one i listen i'll let him know i don't give a shit you know i got bad tattoos too so well let the road to jake paul versus nate diaz begin and

it did begin saturday before uh jake's fight this is nate diaz in the locker outside the locker room slapping the uh yoga instructor for for jake yeah the guy with the tats all over his head there is like the meditation dude and nate slapped him up that was fucking hilarious i talked to him about it afterwards he denied all wrongdoing bc but also said it was funny yeah well it continued from there here is team paul and team nda uh throwing shit at each other i mean what what was happening here yeah my understanding was i talked to a few of the people and at least from the nick ds side or the nate ds side and what they were saying was that they would just essentially cross paths at the wrong time and that one of the guys on the team Paul was getting

mouthy but who the hell knows all right there was people tossing drinks it looked like the palace brawl or something it was wild all right let's go to Bellator 287 from Milan hey Luke Fabian Edwards in the co-main event used his brother Leon's high kick to rock Conor McGregor boy Charlie Ward here look at that you like that he did he did it backwards because before it was a punch fake and then there it goes that's what it was right there the last one he would get the victory uh nice way I mean Fabian could fight a little right yeah he's pretty good I mean his brother's very very special but he's a good fighter as as they pointed out in the broadcast, John Jones couldn't even knock out Machida. Well, I mean, they're getting a little bit ahead of themselves with that one.

It's like, you know, come on. All right. Hey, like Luke, light heavyweight Luke Trainor, not related to Luke Thomas, check out this front kick he used to set up the takedown en route to his first-round submission win over Lucas Alsina. Not exactly Silva Belfort, but it was nice. Hey, you know what? Got him confused, brought his transfer to his defense

and enabled him to get his forehead inside of his head contact to the torso, which is really all you need right there. And we know Bellator undercards usually give us one-sided massacres. Here was Bantamweight Sarvizzan Kamidov with a KO-1 via kick to the gut. Damn. Yeah, that was brutal as shit. Oh, and he said, no mas. Don't blame him.

That shit probably hurt. As an NAFLD survivor, Luke, I take umbrage with that. All right, elsewhere in boxing, the top-ranked undercard from New York City. Last time we had Richard Torres Jr. on here, the Olympic medalist from the U.S., he sent that dude to parts unknown. He was back, and he improved to 4-0 with four KOs with this finish. I kind of like this guy, Luke. He can punch. I love him, too, and this was a better opponent,

because the last one definitely was a pre-diabetic gas station attendant. This one was a little bit better. But he didn't fare much better in the end. Top rank loaded up this undercard with prospects. Here's 18-year-old Abdullah Mason. He improved to 5-0 on this night with a fourth round stoppage. Here's some of his handiwork. Remember this name.

Ooh, beautiful left hand. Ooh. But, Luke, one of the big winners in boxing for the weekend, how about 36-year-old former champion Kiko Martinez? He was on a DAZN card. I couldn't believe this one. Taking on Jordan Gill as a heavy underdog, and he scored a knockout after dropping Gill multiple times.

They had a brawl. This was fun theater here. Kiko Martinez I thought had seen his best days, but this was a hell of a performance by him. No question. I mean, I remember he lost to Karl Frampton like 10 years ago for a title, and he just keeps coming back and winning, this guy. And unlike other people who might be Dominican or Puerto Rican or whatever,

he actually is Spanish, BC. He is from Spain. Yes, yes, indeed, indeed. Luke, one of my favorite rage songs is swing into the fire. No, sleep now in the fire. Oh, no, not for this next guy, Luke. It's right outside your door. Not testify.

Come on. Oh, you dumb piece of shit. You white trash fucking barn animal. Look at this. Look trash fucking barn animal. Look at this. Look at this barn animal. Does denim conduct fire? I mean, that's great right there.

I mean, first of all, you know, let he who's without sin cast the first stone. But I think you're a bit big to be on that swing there, big country. Yeah. Wow. All right. Hey, let's go to Karate Combat. Speaking of Halloween, rate Boss Rutten and Wonderboy Thompson's costume offerings. Well, I don't like desecration of the American flag, so that's not really my bit. Oh, get that.

Come on. Get out of here with that. What do you want me to say, BC? What do you want me to say? Don't be like Rick Monday. If someone's burning a flag, okay, run out there and save it. BC, are you aware at all about any of the requirements of the flag code? Because if you're not, you can just stop the conversation here.

So when the Black Crows came out with that album cover for Amorica with the American flag crotch, you were against that? Well, here's what I would say. I'm not one of these guys who thinks the Supreme Court should ban flag burning and people should be able to do whatever they want with it legally. But if you're a big pro-Americana guy, there's actually a way you're supposed to treat the American flag. I'm fully familiar with the flag code terms. This is not that. All right.

Well, we got to get out of here. Here's our KOs of the week. Speaking of karate combat, Luke, what are your thoughts on this one? Brutal as shit. Dude, karate combat has some fantastic highlights. Their PR guy lied to us and said they were going to get us an interview with The Mountain. Roy Jones even likes that. Look at that.

Yeah. I mean, that overhand right was brutal. You know who works for Karate Combat, Luke? Who? Former MK producer. You know who I'm talking about. Al Wendling. Yeah. Al Wendling. Yeah, Alex Wendling.

Shout out. Yeah. Shout out to Al. Yeah, Karate Combat puts out a good product. All right, let's go. I don't know about them, but the product's pretty good. All right, Luke, that's our first offering for KOs of the week. Let's go to the X Games for our second offering,

or the Dew Tour, or whatever the hell this is. Spoiler alert, it doesn't end well. Yikes. I thought he was going to hit it. I thought he was going to hit it. Oh, he hit it face first, Luke. John, I have a question for you at this press conference, flat. Let's go to regional MMA.

You know they always give us knockouts of the week. And she was standing tall, too. Good Lord. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Look at her strut like a peacock after that. She earned it. Okay.

She earned it. I got one more for you. This is from the cage fighting series. Here's Sean Da Silva turning his knee into a licensed weapon. Kaposa special here. Damn. Damn. Golly.

All right. Let's time for some MMA fighters in the wild. Sometimes these people are just like one of us, Luke. Here's Matt Brown with the old guitar, Immortal style. He's good. A little Led Zeppelin, huh? Yeah. Hey, fellas, have you heard the news?

Yeah, all right, there you go. Let's move on here. How about Numanza using some of his bonus money from Spectacular Knockouts to buy a new truck? Luke, and look how happy he is. Good for him, dude. Good for him. Joaquin Buckley, one of my favorite fighters, for real.

Yeah, you know what? Always exciting. Seems like he's a good guy. of my favorite fighters, for real. Yeah, you know what? Always exciting. Seems like he's a good guy. Good for him. Good for him. Yeah, came to our MK live show. He did. Yeah, he followed me on Twitter recently, too.

Shouts to him, dude. Shouts to him. All right. Other MMA fighters in the wild. Did you see Hasbulla's celebration of Islam Mahachev's title win, Luke? Here it is. Yeah, you know I didn't. Fired up.

Yes. Yeah, I got to say, he's fired up as shit. I love that. All right, let's go to Monday Night Football. Here's your dick kick of the week brought to you by Mac Jones. Yeah, got him right where it hurts. Yep. Oh.

With the studs up, no less. Yeah, studs. Laces out, studs up no less yeah studs laces out studs up there you go all right hey luke let's do a rate that tat mk donk style here's one of our one of our best fans josh montgomery huge music fan got he's this is not finished this is the beginning of his slash tattoo on his left arm well without seeing without seeing it finished, it's hard to give a lot to say. I would just say, because the hair's got to be dark, the face is a little dark. It's going to lighten up over time because it's new. So it's not like it's poorly done,

but the shading is a little heavy. Dude, that's badass. On his right arm, he's got the Wish You Were Hair Pink Floyd cover. I mean, he's got some great things going on there. Yeah, we'll have to see when it's all healed is the best answer I can give. got the Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd cover. I mean, he's got some great things going on. There's Josh and Josh. Yeah, we'll have to see when it's all healed is the best answer I can give. All right, let's go to baseball crowd fights. You know I love this.

Mets versus Braves. Oh, shit. DeGrom with a big right hand. Oh! Dude, he got hit with it. Dude, DeGrom was doing double trouble over here. Yep, there he is. Damn.

Old Jacob, bop, bop. Oh, dude, the best part is the guy with the blue shirt with his back turned. He just held him up to get popped. Watch. Picks him up. Bop, bop, bop. Take that. Take that, Braves, you dirtbags.

All right, let's go to this, Luke. You know I don't like to put this guy on here, but you know the new trend of the cell phone ass plug trick you know this new trend i don't know this i'm a 43 year old man all right here's a couple versions of it real quick let's go to that you know you just you just oh i have seen this i have seen this yes well you know that asian guy who i said i'd never put on here again i really hope you i really i really really hope something bad happens to him. I really do. All right. We got to get out of here.

So here's my final segment for you. I want to know how impressed you are. Rate it 1 to 10. I got some cool things here. You rate how impressed you are. Let's go to the first one. That's impressive. That's not a lot of weight, but the stability you have to have there is remarkable. Okay, one to ten.

What's your rate on impressiveness? Solid eight. All right, let's go to the next one. Also a gym trick. You into this at all, Luke? Nine. Nine? Okay, okay, that's cool.

Let's go to the billiards room. Check out this shot. Ten. Yes, definitely. Ten out of ten. Let's go to man's best friend who can also handle a wicket here. And the drummer get wicket. Dude dude isn't this an australian like sheep dog yeah he's incredible i want to yeah these fucking dogs man they're not like normal dogs these things are wired for work yeah you know he's the real big puppy that's what they

call him all right and finally uh here's an old guy this is your dunk of the week what's your rating one to ten here oh no this is sorry wrong one this is a What's your rating? One to ten here. Oh, no. This is... Sorry. Wrong one. This is a couple's Halloween costume. Where are we? Do we have the old guy or no? DC, you and I should have done this one. We should have. We have the old guy or no?

Nothing? Nothing? All right. Let's move on to our last couple here. Here is couple's Halloween costume of the year. I got to say, I love this one. And that's how you were made. Yes, is look just like that you know look at her light up when he okay there you go you got it you got where i'm going with that uh luke big win on the price is right this week check let's check this out oh yeah come on right he twerked for a nissan ultima

finally luke let's get high here uh what do you think of the ingenuity of these nfl fans been there i mean does has this guy held a job since 1987 probably not right i do like the ingenuity i'll get i'll i'll i like the ingenuity but this guy would you would you smoke on that thing after this fucking drifter who ended up in the game hands you that no probably but here's uh for your birthday this this year luke in in late july august whenever your birthday august 5th right yeah august 5th there you go i'm a better friend than you thought i was here's what i'm what i'm gonna buy you spoiler alert this is the last one i got holy jesus look at her wearing a drug rug too right dude just bury me in this just close the casket and let me we gotta go it wasn't it wasn't

our best but it counts i guess it counts luke right it counts these monday shows after traveling are tough all right as a reminder of course morningcombat.store is the best place to get the merch you can go to showtime.com get a 30-day preview uh for free if you like it you can keep it if not you can bounce plus3.99 a month thereafter. I think this promo's closing soon, so you've got to do it right away. And I think that's it, BC. Any final thoughts?

No, no. I hope to fix my technology in the future, okay? All right, we have to come strong the rest of this week, so let's make sure we do that because we owe the fans big time. Yeah, everything we do, we've got to come original, Luke, okay? All right, so sorry for the late start today.

We appreciate you guys being here. For Malka, for BC, for Showtime, I'm Luke Thomas. That's Brian Campbell. We'll see you guys on Wednesday. And until then, may all of your gains be loyal.