MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Jake Paul KO’d by Anthony Joshua | Anderson Silva & Tony Ferguson Turn Back Clock | Weekend Recap

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

LT and BC are back on a Monday to drop their knowledge after a chaotic weekend in combat sports. First up, the guys break down the Anthony Joshua vs. Jake Paul fight. Are fans right to be critical that it took so long for Joshua to knock out Paul? What are the ramifications for Paul? And what is the endgame for Joshua. What does taking this fight mean for him and his future? Plus, the guys discuss the undercard that featured Anderson Silva against Tyron Woodley. This, and so much more to discuss on a Monday edition of Morning Kombat.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Oh, yeah, it's that holiday season. Get fired up. The deuce, deuce of December is upon us, and you've stumbled directly into morning combat, the best damn combat sports show ever, really, to be fair with you. Hey, welcome, happy holidays, Merry Christmas, all that, and then some tall pale and handsome. Hey, it's your boy, B. Sizzle, Brian Campbell, live and direct from the Hartford, Connecticut

suburbs and joining me via the powers of technology from Colombia, not Colombia. If the Wi-Fi holds, you're looking at Luke Franklin Thomas. Luke, you've arrived. You look safe. You look happy. I doubt we'll have any production

or Wi-Fi errors. How in the damn hell are you, Luke? Yeah, I don't know how the Wi-Fi is going to go. I'm already on Wi-Fi number two but hopefully it goes well it's nice to see you uh bc i what speaking of number two luke how does the south american plumbing hold up for a gentleman of your stature uh those are mostly fine those are mostly fine i wouldn't say that those are really the issue keyword oh too is there an issue already there's no issues i hear you everything's

going good there's no issues look okay all right maybe it's talking your ball weird cadence you're talking in a weird cadence where i can't tell if you're talking over me or with me you know what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah i'm looking through you look that's where did you go all right that's the thing uh great to have you it looks like you got a decent set up there uh how is everything below the equator at the moment or above it you tell me it's fine uh everyone's celebrating christmas here which is a uh it's a lot it's a lot they do a lot of celebrating uh down here and especially with christmas so we went to like a big festival yesterday and it was insane and then we have they have the thing here called novenas were like nine nights before

christmas they all go to each other's houses and sting carols and then get drunk it's like they like they didn't make us do it saturday night when we got here because we were so tired but i did one yesterday and uh yeah they're fun they're there's very celebratory people is what i've learned uh have you seen any bvLs yet yes several in fact and there was one dude we got we landed and so now you got to go through immigration and we're in the immigration line and there's they have many different lines for immigration here like we're whatever different statuses different countries and this woman walked by ibc and it was the worst bbl i'd ever seen in my life it was wait wait my worst you mean like really

good like what does that mean what is no no i don't listen i i i'm not saying it was just big if it was just big i'd be great yeah it was it i'm not kidding it i'm not in any way exaggerating it looked like she took two Kleenex boxes and then stuffed him in her pants because her ass was like square with how bad the job was that was done to it yeah and i was like i was like literally this is you know this is the worst thing i ever seen it this is i mean the only it would be worse is if the cake lady ate it that would be the worst okay you're like normally I carry the Kleenex boxes when I look at BBLs. This is an awkward situation.

Yeah, there you go with that one. We do have a show for you today. Will it be good? I can't guarantee that. Did you enjoy Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua? Because that's what we're here to talk about from Friday night's Netflix escapades. Spoiler alert. We will get into your DMs.

We will sift through the kernels of my shit as well to close the show. I got to tell you, Luke, I struggle. Maybe it's time for that. segment and me to come to an end, unfortunately, because I struggled to put together a batch of shit that could even get a C plus rating from me. So, yeah, there you go. I'll be the judge of that. So sometimes you oversell, you're like, this is the best batch ever. And it was just you laughing as you were eating gummies, you know, on the eighth row of Delta. And I'm like, this is terrible. And then there's times you're like, I don't know. And it's like, it's like one

banger after another. So I will be the final judge. As always in MK history, it is dependent. upon your mood, Luke, but you look very jovial today, so I'm very happy to see that. Also, folks, you can like and subscribe to this fantastic program, which will not die. They can't kill it. It's going to keep going. You can follow our social channels. Of course, you already know about the depressive announcement

that my final date on the show is looming January 5th, Monday of 2026. Last time I'll be in studio, so program that adequately. But we will have shows all the way through, including this Friday. we'll have a beautiful pre-recorded show that hopefully will make you smile as well. So support the show and that method, the other way to support the show, is through our fantastic merchandise and nobody grifts.

Nobody grifts like M.K. And sure. I'll hear. The BC farewell sale is hot right now. Anything that has ever graced my face, you can get it right now for 50% off at morningcombat. All clothes, autograph posters. You can mix and match colors. We have evergreen items available, and we also, until supplies last, have a December exclusive of the Masters of the Universe crossover from Average Joe Art Romero, one of the finest gentlemen on the planet.

So check that out. Quick hello to the third member of our podcast, a producer, director, Bong Enthusist, and a podcast host in his own right, sent here on a one-way ticket from the erectile functioning of his Australian father. Yes, it's Long Island, Luke, Nocita. what's up boys i i'm clearly the only one who came in a festive mood today but uh you know this is our what you're wearing what you're wearing oh i got my let's get baked christmas sweater that i wear my you know family christmas every year and get judged but you know it's all t you look like you want to judge me i i hear something i have no no i'm not judging you at all in fact i think it's quite wonderful bcc i didn't realize that they they know about santa claus down here

but santa claus isn't like a big deal here you know what i'm saying like oh okay they they're the the the big thing here the guy who gives gifts is el nino dios the baby jesus that's the oh okay el nio dios that's the one who gives the gifts so like you'll see santa claus on occasion and like imagery and stuff but it's usually for like american products that are sold here like they don't i'm not even sure if they tell their kids you know santa's going to deliver i love it they under they realize there's a risen for the season luke they know that right and i'm not talking and and it and it keeps their kids from fine and it keeps their kids from fine and it keeps their from finding out in fifth grade that Santa's not real

like a fucking idiot, you know what I'm saying? A dark moment in my youth. Can we bring back Long Island Luke Noseeta as you just pushed right through his welcome to the show? Sorry, sorry, sorry. You're good. Luke, what do you have plans for the Christmas holiday Long Island, Luke? We got to do the double dip.

So my family never celebrated Christmas Eve growing up. It was always just kind of a free day. But my girlfriend's family, they're German. They only do Christmas Eve. So we do a full Christmas. Christmas Eve with them and then we do full Christmas with my family. So okay. That's the best, dude.

That's the move right there. Is that an Australian thing to not celebrate Christmas Eve? One and two, will you be doing any of this with the family? Come on. Beyond 100% probably some pre-rolls because, you know, no one, no one gets down with the bongs, you know,

but they'll take a hit off the joint. But, uh, wait, is this going to be a family pass around like indoors? Like, I mean, not to out my family, but you know,

it may or may not have happened. Oh, yeah, we got to hang out with the no seat. more often this is wonderful right yeah yeah who knows who his dad might impregnate you just never know all right you know how badly it hurts my lower back when i sneeze and cough now it's just wow being old is great do you remember when daniel cormier was like you know i almost had to pull out this fight because i sneezed and threw out my back i do if that sounds impossible to you just wait just wait just wait

just wait your old balls will catch up to you that's that's for sure i think that's all i got to sell that's that might be all i have to talk about before we get into the show uh luke thomas do you want to tell us at all what your christmas celebration of head of you will be like um we have a christmas eve party to go to and then we have a big new year's eve party to go to beyond that i'm not entirely sure but you know there's family events every single that's what i know what percentage of the time you will speak to the relatives and party goers will be in english i'd say um not counting like my wife and stuff right so yeah or maybe 50% okay that's not bad i thought it was going to be like 90% Spanish here so there's there's

English-speaking allies. No, no. Yes, there are English-speaking allies, yeah. All right. Will you and Uncle Pepe talk about booty at all? I think he's bringing his Novia, his girlfriend. So I've never met her. So, yeah, so this is going to looks like, let me, let me smell it. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. All right. That got weird. Okay. Hey, hey, we might as well start the program here before Luke's Wi-Fi goes away. Hey, it went down. It's time for topic number one. It went down on Friday in Miami for better or for worse.

Hey, I'm interested to see what L.T. has to say because hated it. Netflix gave us judgment day. Jake Paul stepping up to the heavyweight division, stepping up to former two-time champion an Olympic gold medalist Anthony Joshua once and for all, right? No more influencers, no more washed retired MMA fighters. he was going to go head to head with a real one. And ultimately, we got the result, I guess that we all predicted and expected,

Jake Paul suffering a knockout loss at the hands of Joshua. In the sixth round of their eight-round fight, an officially sanctioned fight, as you can see, the fan view of some of the action going on there. And while Joshua scored the stoppage that was expected, obviously the bout took place much longer than we all expected with that sixth round finish. Critics will point out, however, that the bout went too long

because it at least looked like Anthony Joshua carried Jake Paul as Jake mostly circled from the outside, looked to clinch at every time. And then I don't know if the contract said it was really a hybrid MMA bout. We just didn't know about it, but shot at least 14 takedowns. So Luke Thomas, let's go right off the start. No one here necessarily is saying that this is fixed. don't need lawsuits.

I don't think we're both even really believe that far. But are the critics right to at least question whether what we saw was potentially farcical? Was this a farce? Did Jake Paul get carried into the middle portion of this fight? Yes. Yes. Yes, he did. He got carried.

Now, when we say carried, let's be careful what we mean. When I say carried, I do not mean that, because sometimes we're like, oh, Joshua pulled his punches, you can tell this is fake. No, I can believe that he might have held his punches. And in fact, there are some scenarios where you can kind of clearly see that that's the case. But I don't think there was any kind of coordinated effort in that way because there didn't need to be. The problem with, I mean, I'm sure we're going to get into this BC, but the problem with bouts like this, when you have some kind of mismatch, in this case, there was not just a size mismatch, there was a skill mismatch.

And when you get that, it changes the nature of what you'd commonly understand a fighter's calculus to be. And this is true on both ends. On the one hand, Jake Paul is out there just trying to survive. And I know we're going to talk more about this. He wasn't there to win. He was there to last. That was kind of the job, right? Whereas Anthony Joshua had a clear mission to win.

But because the ring was big, and because he was circling, And because, you know, this is, he was also, I think, a little rusty. He just kind of just waited for this guy with the bad footwork to just stop doing it or slow down a little bit. And then he poured it on. And so as a consequence, it went the way that it went. You're asking, like, do fans have a right to say that Joshua carried him? I don't think it's really even arguable at this point. I think, of course he did.

But this is these. Would you say it's comparable to how Floyd carried McGregor until McGregor gassed himself out? and then walked him down and got him out of there? Yes, but the difference is McGregor wasn't flopping to his knees. McGregor wasn't taking advantages of, of what you call it, of fouls that never existed, or just acting in some kind of disgraceful way.

McGregor was outgunned in the end, but he brought the fight to Floyd. Look at the first three rounds. He brought the fight to Floyd. It just, you know, we all saw what happened in the end. So it's got a little bit of that with it. It changes the incentive structure. But Jake Paul wasn't there to win.

He was there to survive. Connor McGregor, I think, maybe even thought he could beat Floyd and was acting in such a way that what you got. I will say, though, BC, I will say, and I would love to get your response to this. Because I think you and I are in, what I would consider to be mostly agreement on this, except for one thing. I don't necessarily understand the level of vitriol that came out against this fight in the following way. Not that people had to like it, no, but that to me, this was way better than the Tyson debacle. If for no other reason, then you saw Jake get crushed in the end, right? Like there was a payoff, at least at the end.

The Tyson fight to me was the action was even worse. There was no payoff in the end. It was a complete disaster. This wasn't, in my judgment, nearly as bad as that. Where do you come down on all this? Okay, it wasn't nearly as bad as that. But the problem for me is this is three consecutive times where the larger opinion coming out from mostly everyone online is enough of this. This is bullshit.

This is fake. This is staged. Now, again, I'm not saying that. I'm not even sure if I fully believe that, you know, what parts of it are real or what parts of it aren't. But when you have three consecutive fights, the Mike Tyson fight where Jake literally held up, Mike, to get to the finish line, and there's those weird videos of Mike pulling punches when he had an opening early, then the Chavez fight against a completely washed opponent where Chavez literally doesn't try for eight rounds, literally does not try. and then suddenly tries and is lighting Jake up and then the fight ends. And now you have this one, I'm just fucking done. I'm just done.

Did I expect elite boxing? No. But given that this wasn't 58-year-old Mike Tyson or an MMA retired fighter who's three divisions smaller than Jake or, you know, a pre-diabetic gas station attendant like YouTube or Ann Easton Gibb, it was a still relevant. two-time former heavyweight champion, I thought this was going to be the fight where we would cut through the bullshit.

We would cut through it and finally have a real fight. And for the third straight time, this is not professional boxing. This is, you know, I wrote about this on CBS Sports After. This, to me, is the equivalent of like Jake Paul hosting a Gen Z game show that's a combination of, you know,

Fear Factor Pros versus Joe's in Mr. Beast games, where it's like, let's see if he could survive six rounds against the former heavyweight champion. Jake didn't try to win. It was an embarrassment to the sport. It was gross and it was disgusting. And I don't want to hear any more of what did you expect

because Netflix is championing this, shooting it to the general public in the most aggressive way possible, that traditional boxing, except for the Crawford-Kinello fight and the Katie Taylor trilogy against Serrano doesn't normally get. And to the casuals,

when this is the only professional boxing, now that they know and for the third straight time we're not even you know most people aren't even sure if it was really a real fight i mean i saw anthony joshua straight up carry him i saw joshua suddenly not jabbing not letting go his right hand when there were openings uh not cutting off the ring at all and even in the finishing rounds when jake exhausted you're just sort of like something just feels weird here and my whole point is like i know that Jake isn't a traditional boxer, and that's been part of this. But how often is he saying that he's trying to be, or he already is legitimate?

And now we actually get a legitimate opponent, even though we're all questioning why he did it. And it's just more cartoon bait and switch bullshit, in my opinion. Like, do we give Jake credit for being tough? Yeah, okay, we can give him that. But he didn't come to win. He didn't come to win. He came to make a spectacle. So what I said on CBS Sports HQ, what I wrote in print,

and what I'm going to say right now is consistent. I'm not saying this shit has to go away or be outlawed or be banned, nor am I trying to say that boxing's better than it, because boxing is clearly not. Boxing has more issues than we have time to deal with. But these are not officially sanctioned fights, in my opinion. There's a reason why the tank one couldn't have been. These are the equivalent of YouTube viral type of shit being done on a grand scale.

you want to do professional boxing let's do professional boxing if not these are exhibitions i'm sick of it taking up you know the typical space like you look there were parts of jake's career that were fun or interesting or you know what have you of like could he be this villain that's taken out all these mma names will eventually the ufc co-promote and bring out connor mcgregor well that got old after a while then it was is jake paul going to ever get legit and get in line and fight a real champion and now we go tyson Chavez and this bullshit. I'm sorry to be the old guy trying to protect a broken sport by yelling, get off my

lawn, but you dragged Anthony Joshua into this and made him look horrible, and now we're actually, you know, having to have the talk of, was it real? Was it like, I don't want this bullshit anymore. Boxing has enough issues with shitty scorecards and early stoppages and all that stuff that already, that already fills the world with the, is this on the up? up is this sport dead and dying to me luke this does nothing but make it worse as jake's just walking away with with dollars pissing all over this sport you said you don't match my victory all where did i go too far in that say that again the last the last part of your question

cut out where did i go too far in my in my response right there um where you can't meet me there I can meet you there. I think I can meet you there. I think the issue for me is when the fight was over, okay, so two things. Two big differences for me relative. I'm using the Tyson fight as the reference, although to your point, you know,

there's a lot more than just the Tyson fight to consider in this question. But if I may, just in the Tyson fight alone, one as I already mentioned was the payoff, right? You got to see Joshua put him away. So that was fun. The second thing I would say is that we talked about this on Friday's MK, and I did another bit on submission radio, where the question was, how is Jake going to fight? And we had noted that the ring was large. Dude, we were not mincing words on Friday. He's going to run. Like, we knew he was going to run. On some level, while I do think that there is an additional level of criticism warranted BC for the flopping. I mean, the flopping to me was so... discursable. But in terms of the strategy that Jake Paul took, it was never going to go any

other way. It was never going to go any other way. And I could understand casual fans being like, you know, what's he doing? Dude, we talked that he was going to do it. So between their kind of being, I mean, he did exactly what we said he would. And then the payoff being. LT, not to this level. come on i thought he was going to run and fight a negative style this was an ultra negative i mean just diving to his ankles i again the flopping to me warrants another level of criticism i guess i'm just trying to say this when the fight was over and i'd washed it it's not like i was like wow this this was one of the greatest things i've ever seen i did see some casual fans say that they got something out of it but the point i'm trying to make is he kind of did basically what i thought

was going to do. Then the flopping made it even worse. And then there was a payoff in the end. The Tyson fight to me was nobody was even trying. Nobody cared and nobody who could did. Like it just was to me the absolute worst thing. But in either case, neither obviously delivered except for maybe the payoff in this one. So like for me, it seemed to me the time to raise the most alarm was the Tyson fight less so this one. Although to your point, to your point, NBC. We're now at this accumulated stage where you just have to kind of look at the whole thing and say, what the fuck are we doing here, right? Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. It's just embarrassing. I'm not saying the fight was fixed. Obviously, a broken jaw in two places in the way

that that punch finished him off is not fixed. And I'm not going in that direction. As you can see, the x-ray that Jake Paul and his team have shared on social media. You can see it in his mouth right there. I mean, Jake Paul has balls to step in there. But I think I take away from the respect of those balls by the manner in which he executed himself. He's the one that signed up to finally take on a really tough fight, and he fought in literally the most embarrassing way possible. And I guess everyone's just judging it as, well, he's an entertainer. He's not a fighter.

He made a spectacle. What did you expect? It was listed as a professional bout. So again, like the Tyson fight, I expected a professional fight, which we didn't get ultimately in this one. So, but Luke, I'm not the only one saying. that ultimately there are some others out there that are being more aggressive than i am or or at least equal and not just they're discussed but of like what are we doing here so much so that you know who i

was going to call luke and it was not going to be ghostbusters all right if we got spicy things to share we're going to call up our friends over there at quervo yeah we're queervo so you you invented tequila for shots fire And of course, shots fired is brought to you by Cuervo. Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that absolutely invented tequila, Israel, Adesanya, the former UFC two-time middleweight champion, chiming in on what he saw. Let's listen to it. Honest thoughts on the fight.

I feel like AJ carried Jake Paul to the sixth round. I know my eyes see, and I understand fighting. But this is, I guess, the best result or the most realistic result, I guess. but I know what my eyes were seen in the early rounds, and then now we're here. So, yeah, well, they made money. Everyone's happy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Luke, look, I actually think, as I'm going to tee up here for your reaction, that this was the turning point fight on truly polarizing the combat sports fan base where the boxing purist people like me are just sort of like enough, enough, no more. and maybe the non-purests who are just combat sports fans want to be entertained are saying what you said, which was, I actually enjoyed it.

I actually have respect for Jake now, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I guess that is what it is, but is Adasanya's reaction here incorrect in any form? I mean, there's a range of possible takes on this one. you know i don't find his uh manifestly unreasonable um not saying i agree with every part of it but you know i can sort of get the there's different ways to look at it right so that you can look at it from an entrepreneurial perspective like oh you know isn't it good for american boxing that someone's generating events of this magnitude and on some level that is probably true others can make the other argument that well this is actually ruining the essence of the core product and isn't that

bad. Again, these are kind of complicated things. But I just think for the, you know, if you got something out of it, great, right? Great. If you got something out of it, great. Fine. Then for you, it delivered. But I think BC, for me, I'm just a little, I'm just a little tired of being asked to view Jake's career through the aspirational story that, like, as like a prism by which you're always looking at it as. Like, so for example, they're always like, oh, in 2017, you know, He was a Disney kid and he came up good and it's like, isn't it amazing he's here? And I'm like, guys, we are way past that. We are way past this bullshit.

We are way past the point or isn't it nifty that a guy who was doing vines and on Disney is now doing these big time boxing events? We're now at a stage where we're asking, yo, guy, can you fucking box a little? Because every time you don't take the right kind of opponent, yes, did he take a much tougher opponent? yes but as a consequence he never had the initiative to offensively engage that's not fixing the fucking problem that's not fixing the problem and there's this constant push to be like oh well he got courage to go do that dude the guys on jackass have courage right they have tons of courage to go ride bulls or get shot out of a cannon or you know get fucking tasered or yeah yes get knocked the fuck out by the king of the four rounders you know at ross dress for less all that shit it's not to say

that that i would do that but i'm you know what i mean like i can understand why yes there's some level of courage involved there but that's not fucking skill that's not fucking skill it's not fucking skill and we are now at the stage of his development we're asking you what the fuck is there what do you have show us the cards and everything is slight of hand everything is either sandbagging or, you know, taking something so ridiculously difficult that he can't even fight to what abilities he has. He's got more abilities that he showed BC offensively, but he had to holster them so he'd be maximally defensive.

This doesn't fucking fix the problem. This is not in any way a solution. People will be like, you've got to give Jake credit. You have to give Jake credit for his boxing. No the fuck I don't. No the fuck I don't. And I'm not going to. I'm not going to do that shit.

because is he a little bit better than his critics suggest BC? I think so. I think the evidence suggests he's a little bit better than his critics suggest. But this bullshit about, you know, he's the kid who came up great. He just wants to go do well. Aren't you a hater? Great, dude. He made a shit ton of money.

If the critics bother you, go cry into your bags of money. I'm sure it will find you some solace there if you want. The basic question is what kind of boxing is this and what level is this? And they refuse to really ever answer that, which tells you exactly what they're actually hiding from. Do not ask me to give credit to Jake Paul's boxing, to his business acumen, to a core product that delivers financial returns. They figured it out, B.C., but that's as far as I'm going at this point. Yeah, and I, you know, I said after the Tyson fight that I wondered if that would be a turning point where not crossover people, because Jake still succeeds at building a younger crossover audience for these, you know,

viral type moments, but just completely turn away the combat sports audience. And apparently it hasn't. I mean, because people were entertained by this and a lot of people disagree with me. And that's fine. But this is just, it was shoddy. It brought embarrassment to the sport, in my opinion. And it's like, like we say, like every credit I want to give to Jake for having balls or a chin, I take away for what he did. I mean, look, he actually landed some interesting shots you know some like looping right hands that turned joshua's chin and it's like you want to almost give him credit for that but then he would follow that up with diving at his legs you know 50 times it's it just beyond beyond pathetic in that regard so let me ask you this his produce his uh co his co

founder of mvp most valuable promotions nekisa badarian said after the fight while jake was in route to the hospital that uh this fight was only won by size and that if they were the same side, Jake Paul would have won. Your thoughts, I mean, please, please. Oh my God, dude. Like, I mean,

Nikisa and Jake must actually be some of the very best businessmen in the sport because they're managing to make incredible amounts of money and generate gobsmacking amounts of attention on what is basically a dog ship product. I mean, at the end of the day, right? I mean, that's not entirely true. Sometimes

there's a knockout delivery. For example, BC, again, we will always give Jake credit on this show for what he's doing for women's boxing and, you know, putting Serrano Taylor on, you know, as a co-main to the Tyson thing. This was a, you know, I know that that event didn't go off as planned because of technology issues, but that was a home run for them. You know, so there's not like he's not doing some good things, but like what they're selling to you ultimately is just a product that cannot stand auditing. They are trying to avoid auditing with every fiber of their being.

It's the poor HBC, it's the Goldilocks thing. It is always too cold or too hot. It is never right in the middle word is supposed to be because that would actually be the most undressing he could ever face. If it's too easy of a task, he'll get rid of them. If it's too difficult of a task, he has always this ability to be like,

well, look all these little sort of things that I did. And again, there were some things, as you indicated. You see, they had that one overhand right that came that turned Joshua's head. Okay, fair enough. Nice shot. That was a great shot. And, you know, I'll give him credit for that. But those were absolutely few and far between.

And the core question of what kind of boxing is this? Let me see this dude against any other cruiserweight who can go no more than 10 rounds, right? Because that's the level of development that we're at. And that is actually where all of the truth lies. It lies in the most mundane, ordinary, standard no-nothing place. That's the beauty of boxing, actually, is that these kinds of truths hide not necessarily always in these elevated, you know, grand heights. No. Sometimes they are hidden in the gym wars.

Sometimes they are hidden in whether you show up to practice. Sometimes they're hidden in opponents that it may appear ordinary. or otherwise lack a claim, but they will audit your fucking ass. And he refuses to engage in that, which for the audience, I hope that you can understand, tells you everything you need to know.

Yeah, yeah, it is frustrating. Let's hear from Nikisa Bedarian, who has more on his thoughts after the fight. I thought he did unbelievable. Four weeks of preparation to take on one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, the best heavyweight of the past 10 years, and he hung in there,

for six rounds. And again, I haven't seen the official scorecards, but on my unofficial score card, Jake won at least two rounds. I was standing in the shower with, or next to him, he was showering. And I said, tell me the truth. At any point during the process, were you misrepresenting the truth that you thought you're going to win? He's like, no, bro. I thought for sure I was going to win. I thought I was going to land the big one. And that was all that was on my mind. And he knows what I thought. The whole time, I told him it's an extremely tough fight. Very, very, very, very, very high risk, but very, very high reward. The best heavyweight in the last 10 years, it turns out it's actually Alexander

Usik who beat Joshua twice, but that's neither here nor there. And we do have that other sound that I did, that I did tease. Here's Mekisa one more time after the fight. On Jake, when you look at his performance and you think about what Francis and Gano was able to accomplish or how long he was able to last against Anthony Joshua, what does it say about Jake Paul? a great, great game plan and preparation, unbelievable heart. And the reality is Jake lost because of the size difference, not because of the skill difference. AJ was hanging on that neck, pushing him down. And when you have someone that heavy constantly doing that, it does suck the energy out of you. AJ talked about sucking out or taking out the man's soul. He didn't

take out his soul. He did take out his energy, and that's when he was able to get the finish. I mean, you just have, you just, I mean, you just can't believe people will say things like this with a straight face. I can't believe he said he likes the strategy. He just commended the strategy right there. God dang. B.C. I mean, you, you know this as well as I do. Part of skill is how you use your forearm pressure down on a cup. It was essentially like the boxing equivalent of a collar tie to work out the lower back.

It's what wrestlers do. constantly pulling on the way. Part of that is skill in understanding these positions as well. Now, yes, did AJBC have, except for speed, basically every physical advantage over Jake Paul? Yes, Jake was fighting a very, very unwinnable task. And I'll say this too, you know, getting your jaw broken in two places cannot be easy. Honestly, he got off a little lucky. That could have been much worse. I mean, that, the fact that it was only that is that, you know, and Jake Paul appears to have a chin too. I'll give him credit for that. but this idea that

like oh pound for pound there's no skill difference oh my fucking god this is absolute lunacy at the highest level the cadence of his voice kind of sounded like vanilla ice when he was like no it was ding ding ding ding that was what ours was that's what it kind of sounded like

I mean good Lord we've got one more bit of sound to react to and it is the comedic genius known as you're defending welterway title holder Rolando Roli Romero. I can't wait to hear this. Let's go.

I can't say Jake Fotton got a hard, bro. Oh, incredible, right? I mean, he kept taking the right hands, the left hook. What did you think? You can't say Jake Follongle on the heart, bro. You've got to give him a lot of respect, right, stepping in there against a two-time heavyweight chant? Of course.

Do you do it? You know, I don't hear of God. I didn't get any of enough better. Did you see it, like, ending, like, the way it was going? Man, I, Jay Paul, Lent, it's a bunch of, Bro, the crazy budget mass. It's not his weight class. Right. I was going to say he landed that right-hand flesh,

and it didn't seem to do anything. Not his weight class. Right. So what's next? Is it keep fighting? Do you think he did well enough to keep fighting? I'm going to see Jay Paul in here again. You want to see him again?

I want to see him. And I'm trying to think him with Lou about. You guys don't get for Jake Paul enough credit, bro. I mean, yeah, he's got balls, but he's got balls like even evil riding a motorcycle across a canyon of snake can't, like he's got those type of balls. But Luke, to close on this, do you agree or disagree with me? I mean, remember, the Mike Tyson fight was against a middle-aged man and they did two-minute rounds. They changed the glove size. They did a lot of things.

Should these things be exhibitions if you're going to try to do like a lightweight, one fight a heavyweight the next fight like if you just categorize that as that I'd leave it alone I wouldn't talk about it they probably should be exhibitions um that is in general I think what they should be I can see some cases where they shouldn't be but more often than not I suppose that they should but I think that the the networks are less interested in that in most cases I just feel like I want to say one thing about this. We are living at a time more broadly where people in various sectors or industries

who have skill but do not necessarily have the ability to generate large audiences on their own are being supplanted or at bare minimum having to compete with people in the same industry who don't have the same level of ability but have a much better ability to generate audiences and whatever this may be. This can be in media careers.

This can be in boxing careers in this particular case. And it's this thing where we're being treated less and less to the kind of showcasing of skill that was originally intended through the practice. And instead, it's being replaced with people who have this incredible ability to generate audience attention. And there is no denying that Jake Paul is actually very gifted. I mean, as a promoter, he's good at this.

Right? It is sort of the funny thing. They keep wanting credit for things where they're not actually delivering, but where they are delivering, it's not nearly as focused on. And where he can deliver is he is a very good self-marketer and a marketer more broadly for his effort. He is very skilled at this. And I think you should give him everyone should recognize this fact, B.C. But in this moment in time where the thing that actually matters and what we're all historically basing our understanding of what this practice is, that's being taught. turned on its head for a lesser version of itself.

And I think we're all culturally, and I mean this, I think we're all culturally a lot poorer as a consequence. Yeah, yeah, I fully agree with that. Poor, poorer in spirit and soul after this. But I guess at the end of the day, it's just a stupid fight. Let's go to topic number two, and we'll keep talking about this stupid fight, or at least what comes next? Because like it or not, Jake Paul said after the bout that he wants to continue

chasing a cruiserweight title, that he absolutely. will continue fighting obviously he's going to be out a while he can only uh eat liquids as his broken jaw in two places gets healed so there will be more jake paul but is there any jake paul opponent he could book that could make you want to tune in and does about with fellow anthony joshua victim francis and gano who as we reported as we reacted to leading up to this fight uh he reported himself that he turned down that offer Does Jake and Ghanu make sense? Is that the only fight?

Luke, where do you stand on? If Jake fights this person, yeah, I'll watch it and talk about it. I'll care. Um, you have to ask yourself a really basic question, I think, with all of this, which is irrespective of how you might feel or irrespective of how I might feel. Is there a spinnable path for,

Jake going forward. Now, we've not seen the ratings for this event. So I do think that that will have a pretty important impact on ultimately what Netflix does or what Jake Paul does or how this all this all works out. I do suspect BC that it made a big splash. I had several in-laws last night asking me about this. Now, all of their questions were this YouTuber, why was he flopping to his knees? And I'm like, well, that's a great question. I don't know what to tell you. In this particular case, though, if we're doing an honest reading, it does appear to me that this made an impact. And if it made an impact and there is a spinnable path forward, like, is there another way to recreate something commensurate with this experience with another

opponent? Of course, there's going to be another version of this, whether we like it or whether we don't. Now, I don't know exactly who that might be. It seems to me that the best possible case just reading the landscape here is Francis Inganu. Both AJ opponents, they nearly made this fight, hello, to begin with. It is a doable fight. In other words, Francis is not under any kind of, that we know of, any kind of contractual restrictions that prevent him from participating. And of course, Jake is his own man and can do what he wants, right?

So again, credit to him. The guy knows how to do business. I'll say that. And the question you have to ask yourself, VC, is would there be interest in this? I don't know if Netflix would want it exactly. It's a little harder to say that because I don't know. But do I think that it satisfies most of the criteria of what they appear to value in the end? And I do think that it does.

I do think that it does. Maybe you disagree, but whether we like it or not, BC, he's going to be back at this trough again. And it's a question of how we want to cover it going forward. yeah i i guess what i'm saying is i'm done with the like you know do i want to see him against giovante davis or ryan garcia or terence crawford no i don't want any more of this bullshit if he wants to take potentially competitive fights or if he wants to you know use his platform to climb the ladder and become legitimate quote unquote are there certain stops that i would tune into yeah like i'd watch a tommy fury rematch that first fight was close i won't

I won't say it was a good fight, but it was close. There's a built-in rivalry there. You get, if you do it off of U.S. soil, you get John Fury and Tyson involved right there. I have no want for KSI or any other influencer versus influencer one. I certainly don't want him against Andrew Tater, anything further down the food chain in terms of combat sports. But it's like, would there still be an appetite for him against McGregor or if that was ever possible? Yeah, yeah, I guess there is. Inganu, I think, is still the perfect fight, even with this Joshua kind of fight kind of muddying the waters a bit.

To me, it's still the boss at the end of the video game because none of us look at Jake as an actual legitimate contending fighter. We look at him as the most talented and the star of the celebrity boxing crossover. And that's where Francis Ngano lives. That is. I mean, he got absolutely destroyed by Anthony Joshua, mostly because he came to fight. and came to win against Joshua and then quickly we saw the difference and skill and experience between the two.

I think if you're talking about an Ngano fight, you're still going to satisfy that side of the audience that believes Jake doesn't belong in there, along with the side that likes Jake in his thinking, look, I've seen Inganu get knocked out. I think Jake could be in there. If Jake goes in there to actually fight, to box to win, yeah, it's morbidly interesting that fight.

We do have some sound here from Anthony Joshua, after the bout on the difference between fighting won Francis Ngano and Jake Paul. Both good. Both have heart. It takes a lot. That ringwalk, obviously a thousand fighters have done it before me, but it's a... Imagine sleeping the night before a big fight, and then you wake up in the morning, and you're waiting for that moment when it's time to leave. You get to the change room, you make that walk. I take my heart off to... Francis Ngarni because he's Alamalia MMA fighter and he crossed over into boxing twice

he beat up Tyson Fury and then had a short fight with me but he walked in that ring twice, credited him and Jake Paul who has been boxing now for five or so years at an elite level the amount of pressure that's been

put on his shoulders and he's lived up to that pressure I'm not going to say that they're world class because in our modern in the modern day error, there's maybe four, five, six, seven, and New Joshua's that can punch, that can avoid punches, that know what they're doing in the ring. So Jake will struggle at top level, but he has a place in boxing if he wants to stay, in my opinion.

So credit him and his team for getting him this far. So, Luke, I will say this about Jake. If the, we identified this coming in, that we believe there was pressure from, you know, Mike Oppinger reported that the Netflix, after tank pulled, after they pulled, tank out they gave him a list of three names that he had to pick from we know it he also reached out to ingano if the idea if the real goal here for jake was not only survival but to prove to netflix that he can continue to do this create a big spectacle get people talking about it with polarized reactions get us opening the first hour of this damn show about it then that was a

success i believe a jake versus ingano fight is a netflix fight but do you agree that Jake is going to repeatedly hit this crossroads, whereas as much as I'd like to see him rematch Tommy Fury, I don't think that's a Netflix fight at all. Could Jake do his own pay-per-view like he's done in the past? Sure, but pay-per-view's dying. You really can't make a lot of money off of that comparatively to what you used to.

Netflix is the big-time money-payer. Jake, being on Netflix, makes his promotion very relevant in the larger scheme of boxing. How many available opponents do you, you think are Netflix worthy and would he need to continue to tap into the Ryan Garcia's and the Tank Davis is to keep that relationship going. Yes. When he was doing in a different, I mean, I mean, 2021 BC feels like forever ago, to be honest with you.

You know, back then, you know, a name like Jorge Masbadole and of course he eventually fought Neadez or, you know, something like that, some aging MMA name. It made a lot of sense at that time. But those times are over. I don't know how many times you can go back to the well. It does not appear to be, in my estimation, a great appetite for a Diaz rematch, whether you could put it on pay-per-view or Netflix, to be honest with you. I don't really know where that would go.

So, I mean, just this is the thing, dude, when I was trying to explain this to my in-laws last night, every sports entity or every broadcaster, let's say, B.C., you know how it goes. For example, Paramount and UFC, Paramount is paying for, you know, 30 fight nights, and they're paying for the 13 PLEs or whatever, the number of events, right? And they're going to do that every year for seven years in addition to Zufa boxing. But like, you know,

hey, we're going to take the slate of your calendar and we're just going to air the whole thing. And that's how business, for the most part, you know, sometimes NBA will split it up a little bit and the NFL will split it up a little bit, but they have these broadcast arrangements that they go through. And Netflix is like, we're just not doing that. Like, we're just not doing that.

What we're going to do is we're going to pick and choose the individual games that we want and the individual events that we want and so do look at their aesthetic about what they want now i want to say i think netflix is like how it looks on tv bc i think it looks fucking awesome that ringwalk when they come out he was just talking about that ringwalk when he comes out bc where it's um you know there's it's all lit behind them and then on their feet and then to the sides it's all dude that shit rules like it looked incredible um but their sense of matchmaking BC is totally divorced from anything we understand as traditional matchmaking, even at the margin cases.

You know, they're just like, hey, is that a name and is that a name put them together? I do think, I agree with you, could Francis satisfy that? I do think that he could. So I do think he would be, you know, for what they want. But this is what I mean, like, oh, we want, we want Jake to do X. We want Jake to do Y. But Jake is in the business, again, a very lucrative business, but he is in the business, BC, of doing none of that.

It's not about any of that. This is why it's like, if you want to give this guy credit for generating massive audiences, big paydays, a lot of attention for boxing, and a lot of stuff for women's boxing, you can't deny him this. The evidence is overwhelming, but all of that is in service in circumvention of traditional standards of quality control. And they can't escape that until they confront it. at on, but Netflix's, I think, own matchmaking preferences, BC, won't allow Jake to even explore something like that.

I mean, it's the same thing. And that's probably the biggest issue when people say, why don't you climb the ladder and face ranks cruiserweight because nobody would care about any of those fights. I mean, even if he fought unified cruiserweight champion, Iserto Ramirez, I'm not even sure that's a Netflix fight, Luke. I'm not even sure, like, the public would care on the same level that they would with more celebrity name. So it's sort of officially the business he's in. And look, Netflix is the highest end. So that's going to be the way he's going to cash in and continue to compete and continue

to give the fighters under his promotion, you know, a platform this big. Oh, let's go to topic number three and let's talk Anthony Joshua. The question here is this in his last few fights. There's Ben and Francis and Ghanu. Now Jake Paul. There's some rumors, right? He was Ariel T, some big announcement that didn't happen, but they did ask at the press conference afterwards as a fight against kickboxing champion Rico Verhoeven on the horizon, is Anthony Joshua at 36, as we're building toward this big Tyson Fury showdown, sort of simultaneously risking being considered an unsurious fighter by this level of pro matchmaking. While we definitely want to see him against Tyson Fury, that seems to be two fights away that Turkey and company are pushing that off to build

to it. So does it appear to you that Joshua is otherwise done taking difficult fights against elite contenders? And that maybe he's setting up this Joshua showdown to be the big cash out to end his career. I'm sorry, the, the Fury one. B.C. Pop Quiz for you. This should be an easy one. Since December of 2023, what boxer has AJ beaten? December of 23. uh germain franklin maybe nobody auto valine nobody okay nobody um he's only beaten jake paul and francis and gano now um he did fight daniel dubois which didn't go well but dubois is really good so again not like he lost to some chump he lost to a really good fighter was a title fight too yeah yeah

exactly i mean totally it was a he i don't think a j fought particularly well in that contest but you know This was a very, very legitimate opponent and a very high-stakes bout. Okay. If they go with the Verhoeven route, I mean, I have mixed feelings on this, B.C. And I'll tell you why. It's like, as long as Usoc is there and before Father Time gets Usoc, he's just not going to win a title. It's just not going to happen, right? And is there even any appetite for a third Usoc fight if that was, like, on the table?

I don't think so. I don't think that it would be. So you're in a place, you're like, well, what can I do? Now, the Fury fight is big and a legitimate fight. And you could say it's not happening when it should have happened. It's a little bit past the sell-by date. This might be true, but I still think it'd be big globally and certainly would be a very big event in UK boxing.

And for that reason, I think that we should all hope that it happens. And probably it will. But if you're looking at age day, I'm not saying he's completely dumb. But one more point I'm going to go over here. a lot of people are putting the blame for what went wrong on Saturday on Jake Paul with good reason as we've indicated a number of things you can point to the flopping to his knees the you know no really ability to offensively engage like all of these things are are a problem but dude the reality is AJ didn't look great either

I understand he was taking his time and he didn't necessarily could he have put his foot on the gasp you see and ended that earlier yes of course he could have but he He also looked to me like after 15 months off, no need to risk it. This guy's going to run himself out of gas. And as soon as he gets even a little bit slower, it's curtains for him, which is exactly what happened. So I understand it. But he looked to me like a little bit, you know, on the hesitant side of things, just as a way

to play it safe, given some of the stakes and the inevitability of what was to happen. You combine that with the fact that now Usik, as long as he's there, I don't know what path he has forward. You got one big-ass fight there against Fury. You could make a wilder fight BC, and there's some other big fights he could make. He could fight other big names at heavyweight. But BC, if you're making $40, 50 million to fight Inganu or Jake Paul or now Rico Verhoeven, you know you can't get back to the title and you probably have some sense internally

that you're not at your best anymore, is it really, I would look at the incentives in place. Why would he not do something like that? I mean, I'm not saying that's what I want. I would like for him to pursue the most legitimate fights available to him with the time he has remaining in his career. But I'm just saying if you just add up all the factors that are out there BC, him making a turn in this direction while making the kind of money he's making, it honestly does make rational sense given the incentives in place. I think that's the kind of problem that I have. I think you're 100% right. And that echoes back to why I really hate these being official fights.

And yes, now it's starting to paint the idea that maybe A.J. is looking at the Fury payday as the last big challenge. Let me close out my career with the big fight. The biggest fight in English boxing history that never happened yet, but should have. I just want nothing to do with him against Verhoeven, just like I didn't want anything to do with this fight. The Angano one was a little bit different. Obviously, you know, we all didn't love Ngano fighting Fury at the time that they did because Fury was setting up for the two big Usik fights. But at least, Justin Ganu got himself another payday, and it was going to be really hard coming into that AJ fight to even try to figure out how good Francis was and the chances he would have. But the biggest reason why I hated this event and hated it being an official fight, in part because it gives people a way to look at it and go, oh my God, look, look, I just think he didn't try that hard look. I just think you're right. He waited for him to get exhausted, but ultimately associating himself with this,

it makes him look bad. Let's hear from his promoter Eddie Herman. on the idea of potentially fighting Rico Verhoeven. A question for you, Eddie. There's actually been some rumors around the circuit this week that there's a fight for AJ in February next year against the kickboxing champion Rico Vanhoeven. Is there any legs to that?

No, we've been talking about a possible fight with Turk Elashik. A couple of opponents mentioned. The biggest challenge now, as, you know, AJ said it's eight weeks tonight. You know, he had a very tough camp, eight or nine weeks with a new team who gave him a good working over so we will sit down with that team

and talk about when he will be ready to return so in an ideal world that would be at the time but we're going to see when he's ready Rico whoever it is we haven't finalised that yet but the date really is what we're going to work on over the next four five six days

because we're not going to rush him back if he's not quite ready but it won't be long and the plan is to fight in in the spring and then obviously fight Tyson period. AJ, if you had it your way, would you just go into fight Tyson next or would you like one more? Yeah.

I would. I would. I would. We can do that, by the way, straight away. No interim fights. If Tyson's ready and AJ's ready, we don't have to fight in February or March. I think he's saying he needs to fight.

I'll give the dussar eight weeks. 24 hours to sign a contract. Let's see if he's a man. AJ right here. Greedy belly. Dude, I agree. I mean, we all agree. Let's go right into that fight right now.

Although this is Joshua getting used to his new team, which is Alexander Usik's trainers and team right there. Luke, I would much rather see AJ if he needs to. a setup fighter or if turkey would prefer that to build toward it put him in there with a Jared Anderson a Martin Bacoli even big baby no not not big baby Miller but you know what I'm saying like give me a guy who you're like okay if AJ's not great he could if he's not if he's not good anymore that guy you know could or should expose it not that you want to see a marination situation where someone loses leading in this isn't this wouldn't be a title fight with

fury but like I would want to feel like AJ still cares like he still wants to get a couple more names on his resume right are you still there are you frozen let it go I think he's frozen he getting contued right there as we let him uh flaw for uh thaw excuse me as Luke thaws let's throw to the video once more to put a bow on this discussion of uh Josh looking back at his performance with the regrets he has about this Jake fight. I wish that I could have knocked him out at the start. But as we saw tonight, Jake has spirit. He has some harm.

He tried his best. And I take my hat off to him because, number one, a lot of fighters haven't got in the ring with me. And Jake did. And secondly, even when he got knocked down, he kept on trying to get up. And I take my half to him. So America, I think you have someone who could potentially, if he still has the heart for it, come back again, dust the dirt off his shoulder and come again and maybe sell out this center sometime in 2026, maybe against a Giovante Davis, a Ryan Garcia, who knows? As we get Luke back hooked up, I just want nothing to do with those type of bullshit fights. Same thing even with Canello getting a shot at Jake.

It makes these guys unsurious in the twilights of their career. I'm not saying they can't make money, but it's sort of one or the other to me. It's either an exhibition and you're going down the money entertainment path or you're angling back into title position, building yourself up for big fights. And I don't feel like that's necessarily the case for Joshua right now. I hope Canello doesn't take that turn after losing to Crawford. Luke Thomas, we see you. Do we have you?

no all right well l t come in l t he looked good right before that i thought it was going to be are you talking about like you know the health in his face his skin tone is that what you're talking about yes i hear you now sorry about that i don't know what happened okay all right l t if you can hear me we're going to transition now to topic number four let's talk about that jake paul undercard as well as the netfolk flix component here uh it wasn't the co-me an event, but it definitely drew big interest on the MMA side as 50-year-old Anderson Silva, jumped

in there with 43-year-old Tyrone Woodley, did some Roy Jones tribute of tapping the ankle, teased, fainted, the left cross, came up with the right uppercut, delivered yet another highlight real moment as he dropped Tyron Woodley. Woodley would

stand. The corner would eventually stop it as the referee was looking into Woodley's eyes, if you recall, the referee urged Woodley forward, and he wouldn't come forward. He was definitely concussed. It seemed. It looked like Silva still got it in this boxing crossover. Was this the

feel good moment of the weekend in your eyes for MMA fans, Luke, to see Anderson Silva in this setting, once again, create memories? Are we back? Finish your question one more time, B.C., I'm sorry. You cut out right at the end. How much of a feel good

moment was it to see 50 year old Anderson Silva deliver this no you can hear me now yes yeah I got you go for it yes yes okay sorry about that I apologize okay very quickly it felt incredible it felt incredible to see a guy who used all kinds of tricks where he touches his knee slash feet and then pre slips and then hits him with that uppercut after showing him the left you can see woodley bats down on the other side right because he or he was trying to parry because he completely misread what going to happen there so the old 50 year old guy this old goat still has a million tricks it was so great to see i don't know if he should keep doing it bc i still have concerns but the point i wanted

to make was when anderson sylva was in his prime he was kind of associated with like just magical moments that you would remember forever and you know i don't know if the woodly kio is going to be remembered forever bc but that feeling you get where you're like this motherfucker you know like he's got so many tricks he's got so many tricks he's got so many tricks he's just always he's just he's just a martial artist to the bone to the bone and you got to see a little bit of that you know again when he front kicked vitor belpheur in the face it was obviously bigger and more important and all that kind of stuff but i got to tell you man that was that he he brings joy the magic of his style the way in which he wins it just feels good to watch

and i think a lot of mma fans felt really nice seeing him at 50 years old still have these awesome fuck it wasn't like he just you know jabbed and hugged his way to a six round decision bc he went in there and was like bo bo bo bo pop you know like it was it was it was great it was great it was great i agree though that i don't know if i want to keep see him keep doing it unless it's like propped up type of matchmaking i mean i know he called out chris wybin who was supposed to be his original opponent okay i mean whatever but i kind of wish he just walked away for his own brain power moving forward but you know he he back trust me he back in this moment and uh he got to meet a jay we saw a little real recognizing real here let's see that

oh wow so here we've got mr silver the spider legend congratulations chair you know what's good about you you're not really a good fighter but you're an amazing person i'm proof a lot i'm proof a lot no but not just a fighting but as a person very good person how are you i'm good I'm good. I'm good. Are you recording with your glasses? No, no, I know. I'm not recording.

I use it only because I'm, I can see. But well done today. I saw we was watching. How did you feel? I love it. Yeah? You're going to fight again? Probably.

You're going to beat up your son some more? That's the hard part. That's the hard part, training with the kids. But, buddy, congratulations, all right? Congratulations. God bless you. Say hi for opinion. Go bless you, yeah.

Bye. Bye. Luke Anderson would say after the fight to Ariel Hawani in the ring that he's going to pursue a police at the police academy in Beverly Hills, California to give back to the U.S. and that he's going to continue fighting. So that is what it is. But Tyron Woodley on the flip side falls to O&3 in boxing with two bad knockouts. He would say afterwards, give me a full camp and I'll show you what I have.

Luke, it's not there anymore. He's had a great run as a combat sports athlete, but I can't see this anymore. Lost four in a row on his way out the door, and, you know, again, not to scrubs, but it didn't look great doing it. And then has lost three in a row, and then two of those by K.O. BC, he got,

remember he got flatlined against Jake Paul, and then he got hurt here real bad. He's 43, and I understand, oh, I didn't get a full camp. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. BC, like, there is a lane, And I know we're going to talk about this a little bit later in the show. There is a lane for like unc level combat sports. But it just requires difficulty.

Sorry, it requires having a keen eye for what works and what doesn't. And yeah, is Silva 50 and Woodley's 43? Oh, well, Woodley's seven years younger. But he's clearly not as durable or able to defend himself, frankly, in the ways that Silva appears able to do. So it's not even just a math or, you know, an arithmetic question of what they're age is. Woodley was a great champion. I know you agree with that. And I think he did a lot of great things. But, and credit, he's getting big checks, relatively speaking on part of his career that you would never imagine he would be able to. But I really worry about his health at this point.

This is starting to get kind of bad. I agree with you completely. He's gone to acting lately. We saw that clip of where he showed his bare ass and they opened up the cage and the raccoon. The raccoon came out and bit his shlong. And then we saw that. That homemade video of where he was, yeah, Luke, he was having a meal there. Okay, thank you very much. All right. Let's show that photo. This is a great photo of Anderson Silva, by the way.

What's the photographer's name on this one, Luke? Scott Herrano. I thought it was Esther Lynn, but it's Scott Herrano. Great shot right there of Silva's team praying over him. Also, in the official Co-Mane event, we saw Women's Unified 130 champion, Alicia Baumgartner, score a respectable win over. Layla Boyd, uh, how do you pronounce? I don't know.

Boy, don't know. Baudoin. Baudan, Baudan, cross on, cross on. Uh, Baudela, Lue, fighting three minute rounds, 12 round distance. Yeah, the crowd kind of tired on it. Layla rallied back at the end there. But, uh, ultimately, is this the type of, uh, placement that you think elevates Alicia? I mean, it's hard to say like, oh, was this bad for her because she was a co-made

event on Netflix. No, it clearly wasn't bad for her, but like, there's just no one talking about this fight. Forty-eight hours later, or however long it's been, I can't even do my math anymore. You know, it just is not a relevant thing. So it's, I mean, did she look good? Yes. Did she do her part to promote? She did. Did she come prepared and execute according to her abilities? And again, shouts to her, 12 rounds, three-minute rounds. Like, dude, she did the work. I respect what you did but materially what was the impact this is the thing about booking these cards bc and again you know everyone's still trying to figure out what works my view bc is i'm not saying that there's no way that if you have one of these influencer type cards you can't put legit fights on there but

if you're going to put legit fights they have to be the kind of action oriented ones that match the chaos that you're going to get from the other ones otherwise they just stand out in the wrong direction It's like, oh, let's put the, who are the best boxers on the card? Okay, AJ's a really good boxer. But, you know, like, as a pair, who are the best boxers? And it was in the co-main event. But, like, that version of the product, relative to the entertainment you got from Silva, even, or, you know, the final KO of Jake anyway. I don't know what that does for her.

That's kind of my question. Look, MVP has a lot of elite female fighters on their roster. I kind of wish they would start aggressively matching them against one another and trying to make name fights more than we're going to unify belts with this opponent you've never heard of or we're going to do this mandatory. It's like, you know, Amanda Serrano has a fight coming up in January at a stadium in Puerto Rico, but her opponent, you know, popped for a test. It's like I kind of would have loved Alicia versus Amanda here, right?

Like two stars or get Holly Holme involved or like, you know what I mean? like more be a little bit more creative in how you promote the names on your roster so that we would have a little bit more interest ultimately in that uh but look those are our four topics right there and i do have to pause for a moment because it's history time because now right now is a good time for all you to remember where tequila's story truly began back in 1795 get this quervo invented tequila and since then quervo's been doing nothing but staying true to their roots same family same land same passion brada 230 years later quervo is still right here in every poor and every margarita in every celebration and every pregame preview brought to you by morning

combat so enjoy the tequila that started at all quervo the tequila that invented tequila proximo quervo dot com please drink responsibly heck yeah let me get some more of that uh let me get some more of that queer vote luke okay all right i mean i got to join a pregame preview at one point post divorce right yeah we'll have you back don't worry all right thank you thank you for that all right let's go to topic number five for what else happened this weekend in combat sports and was this the weekend for the unks or what not only did anderson silva turn back the clock on netflix But two other oldies had big moments, and based on these results, what would you say are the more legitimate lanes for an aging prize fighter to take

when they are a long past their prime? I'm talking about Tony Ferguson winning the vacant misfits middleweight title with a clear win over Warren Spencer. I'm talking about what YOL Romero that we'll get to in a second did in real American freestyle wrestling by tech falling Pat Downey of, wrestling in Bellator fame, setting up the showdown with Bo Nicol. Luke, it was uncolor. Even the head of the Manosphere, Andrew Tay got taken down.

How do you want to see our aging heroes when they get to this point, presented and represented to give these type of fun moments? There's always going to be a question of, like, after a beating, the beating that comes with a UFC career, should they be fighting at all, right? is a completely relevant and important question. And I think we'll disqualify a lot of people from, so I think there's two considerations, B.C. is, okay, just, let's do so medical inventory. Where are you at the end of a UFC career, right?

That's sort of one question. And then the second question is, okay, now what kind of events are you signing up for? So if you fail the first one, the second one doesn't even matter. But even if you pass the first one, then the second one has to have a delicate touch. Let's go the other way. First, let's start with Yuel Romero. Dude, he didn't just beat Pat Downey. tech fault him. Pat Downey was a former world team member. He didn't win any super

prestigious titles at the freestyle level, but not a not a bullshit guy. And isn't it true that Yol hadn't competed in 20 years in amateur wrestling? Yes. And he fucking tech fault him. For folks who don't know what tech fall means, that means mercy stoppage. That means if you score, I think in freestyle is either 10 or 12 points consecutively or not, um, uh, uh, if you, if you put that, that, that margin up on them, then they just call it in before, or, or, time expired like he fucking mercy stopped him and and is still doing cartwheels and backflips at 48 dude motherfucking joel romero is a generational athlete we use that word all the time like he's a generational athlete and in certain cases is for someone very very elite but not necessarily generational

this guy has been beating people's asses in very difficult sports for well over two 20 years at this point BC well over that 30 years was really probably closer to the amount given what he was doing the Cuban amateur system prior to that he is special beyond fucking words man you just won't meet guys like this very often to be nearly 50 BC and move like he moves and still have dude people wondering you well where the fuck was this in the UFC seriously where the fuck was this because he looked like a cat out there he's this to me if you're up for the task bc i don't know what kind of audience there is for it but like some kind of freestyle wrestling match totally good with it totally fine jiu jitzu's the same it's a safe great lane for the

unks who can qualify for things like that all right we'll see that same unc yo l romero of course in that bkfc light heavyweight uh showed title showdown in february there against lorenzo hunt But yeah, that was great to see YOL do the full backflip and get the love for that. Let's go back to Tony Ferguson and that misfits vacant middleweight title about his second consecutive win. He has, it was a clear win. He beat the bags off of Warren Spencer nearly stopped him. So Luke, I love the memes that are coming out of this where, you know, for Tony, it's like showing the record to end the MMA career and then showing what happened since he got into boxing and is Jake Paul going to call him out next? Is he going to fight Andrew Tate?

I don't want to see him take, you know, damage against anyone, but it's really hard not to get a smile, not to enjoy, not to appreciate seeing Tony still be able to compete, not get hurt, and thrive. I mean, we love this guy. He once gave you that baseball for no reason, Luke. It wasn't a baseball. It was a gripping tool.

Oh, that's right. Okay. Yeah, for, yeah, to be able to, yeah, there you go. Okay, sorry. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Long Island for that terrible last year. Very soon. Thank you very much.

Yeah. Well, anyway, if I may on Tony Ferguson, I still think the amount of damage he took in this career, BC is still worrying. However, what you can also say is this is a level of competition where I'm a lot less worried about what might happen to him. And for now, how he's dominating and getting some decent paychecks, I hope. um you know this is hard this this kind of lane that he's in where he's basically fighting influencers and shit i don't think that that that in terms of again terms of the kind of

damage he can take and like where he's at clearly this is more this is more commensurate with what he's got to offer and in that sense i'm i'm less concerned about it yeah i am too i mean it's still brain rattling but if he's going to fight lower level competition like this and be treated like a like a king and get the respect that i mean he never you know five times they tried he never got the hebib fight he never got the full title fight until he was unfortunately you know closer to being done than not and gaichi took the soul from him in there so as long as it's controlled and they're not setting him up to fail i don't hate it uh luke also on that same card it must be said manosphere influencer andrew tate in the main event who is by the way presently charged in

multiple countries with rape and human trafficking was schooled by influencer Chase DeMore. I think it was like a majority decision in the end, but Tate with the former kickboxing championship background, he got lit up at times. What's your reaction to this? Because this was not a fight you were all into being must-see TV or previewing or really giving the light a day. It's about as gross of a signing as possible these days. But did you get some feelies from it, Luke?

I don't get it. I didn't get one feeling from it or another. I mean, it was kind of funny to see how bad he looked, I suppose. You know, the only thing for me is like afterwards, he was like, you know, the best thing is to try and it's like, dude, that's not your message. Your message is not the best thing is to try and do your best and be humble and defeat. Your entire message is, you know, fuck chicks, make money and the only people who can't do stuff like this are losers. Losers lose. He's actually got tweets to say this nearly verbatim. You know, this is, your message is not. You know, your message is not. do your best and if you lose hold your head up high it's quite the opposite it's win or nothing um you know it's very very interesting that in a moment where he gets completely undressed for not having the ability to maybe you can argue maybe at maybe at one point he did but certainly any longer which i'm not saying he did that either but you know certainly now he does not appear to have the i mean dude he was i didn't watch the fight i just saw the highlights but he was getting hit with stuff that were like comically like comically bad punches and he couldn't get out of the way of them it's like this is not your image uh and um you know i i won't be i wasn't tuning into

this one i won't tune into the next one but i for his own sake not that i really care but for his own sake this is a bad idea they're not going to do him and tony ferguson right like that's not something that's on the menu correct do the world we live in how could it not be yeah you know seriously you know but honestly tony might do him up bad I'm wondering. I'm wondering if Tony's the hero we need in this equation. Could be. I don't know. I don't know. I find it very weird to the MMA community. I shouldn't say I find it very weird. I find it very discouraging that there are enough people being like, you know, we really tried his best. It's like, get the fuck out of here with this. Who is this convincing to, you know?

Exactly. Those are your five topics for today. Hey, we tried our best. There really wasn't a there any shit going on. We did what we did here. But now we give you the opportunity to let your. voice be heard every Sunday night at Morning Combat on X and Instagram we put out the call for your questions via the DMs there and we've got answers for you donks along with

an animal about to be satisfied this is called DMs from dogs wow that animal sure did reach completion there our first one comes from at Von Beckle who were you

happier to see lose this past weekend. Wow, these are tough choices. Andrew Tate or Jake Paul? Tate is obviously a much worse character in almost every way. Yeah. So I suppose that's the answer, but I honestly was not focused on, again, I caught the highlights on Twitter. There was a bunch of them, you know, so I did see some of those, but.

And I wasn't in a position where I'm like, Jake's got to get his. He must be carried out unconscious. Like, I just wanted a fight that didn't drop shit on our sport, you know? Yeah. I mean, I guess it was probably better to watch Tate lose. But, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll probably, I'll say that. Yeah, I guess that's right.

I cared little about that Tate fight. And ultimately, I'm going to try to care less about this Jake Paul fight. Or really, any of them moving forward. Let's go to our second one from a drummer extreme at Steve. Sticks plays time with Anderson Silva's win over the weekend. I'd love to know what is your favorite moment or fight in Silva's career for sticks plays time. It's either his reverse elbow against Tony Frickland or the win in his first fight

with Chil Sun and we all know rallying down on the scorecards in round five to submit Sunnan and defend his title with not only a broken rib, but people forget that goatee that was badass that he had that night. Luke, if you can point to one moment in Silva's career that you would. tell your your grandson about as you're bouncing him on the knee uh what are you picking man there's a bunch don't give me five answers i need one don't do a luke thomas um man it's probably going to be the win over chale the first one okay because he was just so beaten and and he was losing terribly and then it just

at the very end of it rescued himself on the most improbable and just you couldn't believe how it all went it's probably that. If I give you some honorable mentions, I think the win over Force Griffin, the stoppage of him, and then we that's my thing. He turned into a video game in that fight. It was the most, you know,

and obviously the Bellfort kick is right up there, but for me, what he did to Forrest, I was just like, this guy's virtuoso. He's an absolute virtuoso. That's some crazy shit. The up the upward elbow he got on on tony frickland was sick uh the front kick to vitor belfort was sick dude the flying knee he hit carlos newton with and pride was sick i mean there's just

so many you this is what i mean dude this is what this fucking guy does it's just magic all the dude dude dude yeah yeah that's again that's it's just constantly fulfilled with things like this you know long out look what's your silver moment i'm going to go the anti silva here when Chris Widman knocked him out. Let's fucking go, Wydenman. Oh, get the hell out of here. Oh, my God. Wow. Wow. All right. You know what? Both of you can leave the show. How about that?

Yeah, pretty soon. Yeah. Our third one comes from a man in his cap, big fan of this guy. Looking back at the year, he asks, what has been your favorite fight that didn't make the headlines? I'm assuming he's asking, like, is there a fight that won't be fight of the year or wasn't overly? famous and popular and newsworthy that you look back and you're like I enjoyed the absolute shit out of that one. That's a tough one. I'd have to think about that a little bit more.

I'm going to go a February fight night main event if I will Luke. Jared Canaaner versus Hobocop was just a sloppy, fun violent war. Do you remember? Cannonier got beat up, but then he kept rallying and

if you would ask me on prop quiz if they fought, I would probably say that I don't that they didn't even fight. I don't remember it at all. This is a tough one for me. I'm not sure how to answer this. You know what? I mean,

the guys who, I mean, it was the fight of the year, and so it got headlines, but the guys who had that contender series just, you know, insane fucking brawl, they were not names.

Like, the only way for that fight to ever get elevated was by virtue of what they did. that's not exactly what this person's asking i understand but that's i don't know how to answer it because i'd have to really think about it and i can't do it on the spot i'll tell you i still have a lot of great feels for the first paul hughes usman namagamatoff fight i know that was at the time very well you know promoted and talked about but like same thing too for when paul hughes fought in uh belfast after that do you remember the crowd was just insane like that was that's more

of a good moment but um long out look hit me up with a fight you you you you are all over the prelims like is there something that we that won't make it in the top five or ten of part of the year but it really stands out to you looking back there was those two fights they rather than do performance bonuses they'd had two fight in the nights i believe it was an apex card it was chris duncan mityauch rambetsky yeah it was elvis brenner and estabon ribovich and both of those were bangers you're never going to remember those probably going to be prop quiz questions Wow. Did you notice when Long Island looked at a thumbs up a thumbs up popped up in his window? It's the program he's using. It's Mac. It's a Mac thing. You got to turn it off in your Mac settings. So if you show your

your thing, will an eggplant emoji drop pop up? Okay. That's good. Yes, Long Island Luke's letting you know what time it is. Yes. All right. Let's go to our one of our favorite Hawaiians along with Daz and, um, uh max and a limelay this is telvin key papa yes big papa key papa if it's three a m he must be lonely and getting off of the work uh favorite combat sports moment of 2025 big papa asks gotta be ilia flatlining charles whoa really explain that explain yeah well we all have charles and again you know what one of my favorite not my favorite but it may be a second tier one was Charles coming back against Gamrot and just running his ass over. That was pretty cool too.

But for Ilya to go up there, dude, and I know he has destroyed his personality, or I should say, destroyed whatever goodwill he had left, you know, even with people like me in the last year. However, you know, he was saying like, I'm just going to walk across the cage. I'm just going to knock him out. It'll happen in the first round. And, you know, everybody says this. And you're like, dude, this is fucking Charles Lavera.

Like, yeah, I think, I said it on this show. I was like, okay, Ilya's going to win this, but you, this is getting a little arrogant for me. And then he just does exactly. I mean, it was like, it was so fucking bananas. That was like, I just couldn't believe it. So that kind of thing is hard for me to, to say. I mean, there's some of deeper cuts you could have gone with, but I had such focus on what Ilya was doing at that time, going from Volk to Max to Charles and then to cap it off

that way. That was, that was pretty insane, I have to say. That was a great moment. I got to go with the moment of the year when the car pulled up outside the stadium for Chris Ubank Jr. versus Connor Ben and Chris Ubank senior pro wrestling style

gets out like dude that was like that that was a huge reveal yep that was like and it just escalated into the fight which kept getting better and better and better like that was a real a real ass moment right there I also have to say I felt really good when Kayla Harrison

won the title it felt like a big moment for her and it was one of the it reminded me of Marabin the sphere the year before i'm just feeling like proud for an athlete you know and also it's sorry to cut you off you see i apologize but i know it's recency bias but dude that peter yonwin over marab yeah was fucking awesome like that was so masterful you got to throw that one in on the list too or or the peyoteer yon win maybe it was against mcgee when his son was in the cage and got on the microphone was like i'm so proud of my dad ah like you know that was a

come on, right? Right? No? Yeah. Yes. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. Our final question comes from Lison Ring J 1775. That's run them cheeks. That's our guy, right? That's our guy. Yes. Yeah, I think so. Joe says, best Christmas present you've ever given someone else. Just this dicky in a box? Yeah, just a just a good old dicking.

pound town here's a gift we've had this question before there's a roy rogers gift certificate to pound town yeah yeah there it is um i've been i've been a really bad gift giver my whole life just asked my wife uh i could just tell you that i bought my sister so many gifts like in high school age time that i knew she wouldn't want that i would eventually end up coming back to me so i would just buy her vhs movies that i wanted she never watched them once and then i'd just put them in my room that's like really that's a real dick move though you know um it's definitely not the most expensive thing i've ever gotten my wife but i you know what funny enough dude but back when we were in the slums of jersey city one day we had to shoot in the afternoon and i think we had like most of that day off or something and so i i wanted it around like jersey city and i went into this jewelry shop that had this like a necklace where it was a it was you know small and it looked like it was designed as a knife but you're wearing it like a pendant and the knife handle was made of like pearl and i got that for my wife and um she was just over the moon about it like she wears it almost every single day since

and there's been several years at this point like of all the things that like really had a lasting impact she really like that so jersey city you know huh what is the is the knife representative of anything no she just likes the aesthetic of it it had a very has a very clean look it's not it's not any way designed to look menacing but at the same time it's got it's a knife you know so it's kind of this duality of both um what the what the object is and then how it's presented yeah uh long island luke you you want to jump in here did you uh get your girlfriend any great gifts like uh an undercard podcast on her birthday or anything no uh no uh no i the one thing that's coming to mind is like i'm a big fan of tricking people where you have a really tiny gift and you put it in a really big box

with maybe other boxes within it and they have to open it. But that's like the funest gifts I could think of. But yeah. So you take a really tiny thing. You put it in a box. I take in a box. Yeah,

it turns out. Yeah. I don't, yeah, I guess I look back. I'm not a great gift giver. I need this year I really tried. But I'm really hoping for a W.

We need a W this year with the wife. Okay. I got it. I got a story right here. You'll have to tell us on the on. Oh, really? Yeah.

Yeah. It's a running joke, kind of, but also she's picky. So it's like, I had to try, I tried this year, though. I tried, I try. We're going to see. All right. I'll report back to you. All right.

Thank you very much. Those were your questions. We had answers for them. You can reach the program by using our email address, Morningcombat at gmail.com. Say hi to Mikey on the other end. Please don't show your groin naked to him. But you can send in some fan subs, some DMs from dogs.

Luke, what is the future of the show post BC? are you going to have new segments are you going to show your own shit what's going to happen um this is something that we're currently talking about i'll say this bc i think you'll probably agree with this idea i'm going to turn long island luke loose you know he's going to come up with new segments and we're going to try him out and the ones that stick we'll keep and the ones that don't we'll just move on from but we're going to try shit out all right all right you're going have any bang your fan contests or anything like that.

BC's like, listen, when I come back for my honeymoon episode, I want it to be when you're having sex with the listener's wives, okay? Thank you. That's been a long time dream. That'd be a great contest. In your house and in your...

All right, enough of that. That's weird. All right. I do have a batch of shit here. I scoured the globe. Look, I'm not trying to undersell it so it overachieves. It is what is.

It is. I think, is this the second to the last time we're doing this? Well, we'll do one next week, next Monday, right? And then the following Monday. So maybe two more times. Okay, maybe two more times. All right. I'm trying to, because I know we have special episodes planned for a couple of these, right?

Yes, but I do think there's two more Mondays after this one. All right. You know what I did. You know what this is. Have you seen it? Cool. Indeed, Luke. Let's go to Miami for Jake Joshua. And the two of them produced an update to the classic Pantara album cover. Luke, your thoughts. Oh, this is. I posted this on social yesterday. This is whoever came up with this, you got it. You nailed it. Yeah, you nailed it. And so did AJ. Do you think AJ swung 100% on this one like he did when he killed in Ghana?

I mean, I think he swung pretty fucking hard. You know, was it 100%? I don't know. But it didn't look to me like he was, it didn't look to me like he was soft peddling. And I'll put it that way. No, I mean, he broke the jaw on two spots. Like, that's where you got to give Jake credit for not going out, right?

Like, that's some crazy shit. Yeah. And then you see, remember Jake's face when he was at the bottom? And he was like, oh, you know, he like, I don't think he'd ever been hit by a human that hard. Yeah. Oh, Luke, there's already been t-shirts made to culminate this historic date of Friday. night here's one of them jake paul got knocked out by anthony joshua on the day the epstein files were released december 19 2025 redacted luke okay yeah yeah heavily heavily all right

some would even say there was a lot of synergy luke between the losses that jake paul had and andrew tate had this weekend yeah a lot of tough guys on their knees it appeared you know not that i would do any better bc i'd probably know be down there too no i would wouldn't even enter my life but yeah you would not see me on my knees yeah who was that who was who was that dude who bc who was that dude who was on fox where he like enters the ring and then the bell rings he's like you know fuck your life i'm out of here curtis harper against f a jogba yeah yeah curtis harper yeah oh there's my there's my there it is okay uh also luke that wasn't the only sexual position that made it onto the netflix broadcast check out this dude in the

crowd just grinding right there oh yeah Yeah. Wow. When I tell you that that's a Jake Paul crowd, that's a Jake Paul crowd. That is a Jake Paul crowd. Also, how did the commission allow Logan Paul to spend the entire fight standing outside of A.J.'s corner while he was talking junk. What's good, bro? You're the old guy now. That's crazy. Hey, so what are you going to do? What are you going to do? You've lost every single one of them. You've lost every single one of them. You've lost every. single round

this could be a legacy and the way j that was interesting that just that just appears to be a blatant violation of the rules about who is allowed to communicate and when they're like you're not even you're just not even supposed to be able to talk to them yeah you can heckle them from a distance maybe they said oh he's heckling from that distance

I don't know but that kind of thing is typically it's it's dude you know what it's fucking Florida that's what it is it's Florida but it turns out Luke we were the ones that were fooled all along that wasn't Jake Paul in the ring, it was cake Paul. Somebody called Celine. Oh, my fucking God. Yeah.

Can you imagine eating his face pubs? That's why the jaw separated so easily, Luke. It's just cake in the end. Okay, that wasn't the real guy. All right. Your real highlight of the weekend came in the hallway after Jake Joshua. When Andre Arlovsky bumped into the security team of influencer Jack Doherty, and he let them hands go, Luke.

Dude, these broccoli-haired pieces of shit are, I hope Arlovsky, I mean, who is the dumb motherfucker? Dude, Arlofsky is tall. He's like 6'4, you know, and he's obviously got cauliflower ear, and he just looks like a big, bad motherfucker, who are these cauliflower, excuse me, these broccoli-haired zeros? Look at these fucking absolute nothings trying to start fights with. This should be the new bully beatdown, BC. Just have pro fighters go and fight these jackasses.

It's kind of like what Tony Ferguson's doing, but just a little bit more, you know, reckless. Because these dickheads deserve to have their asses beat every time they show up in public. That was such a great video to watch. I love it. I can't believe how Balsy Doherty security guard was. Like, he kept coming back after Arlofsky. Do you not know? Well, no, nobody knows anything.

I mean, he's. And also, I mean, that's his job. you're paid to do that dude jackd already does this shit they go and they bump into people and then when they react oh they have some big ass security guy who jumps in there is like you know stopping them it's like i don't know if that model works if you're bumping into fucking andre ralowski all right look your cameraman of the week was down in this caribbean baseball game let's watch the action here's the pitch oh no they're gonna oh okay oh hell yeah yeah that was me that was me getting off the plane right there i was like holy fuck alice is back

Wonderland. Is it true that you didn't sleep after Jake Joshua? You stayed up all night and then flew to South America? It's what I say that that is easily one of the dumbest things I've ever done. It was so fucking stupid because I got, I finally got here 12, 13 hours after I left my house, 13 hours after I left my house. And I felt like I'd been hit by a fucking bus. I, you know what I did, BC. I went to the local Tienda and I got some survey Cita and I just got drunk and went to sleep. Oh, I thought

you would buy the coccania leaves and just chew on them. Okay. I mean, what are we doing here? I'm not in the jungle, B.C. I mean, come on. All right. Sorry, Luke. It's time for some restaurant fights. You're always talking shit about Arby's. Be careful, Luke. They got,

they'll mount up. Dad's pissed. He's going to fight the fried cook. See, this is what happens. You go into that area. You're in their land now. You're in Arby's world. In Arby's world, they all stick up for each other because they're all making minimum wage,

but they got each other's backs. So don't go stepping back into Arby's. They're going to get you. It's a fair warning right there, Luke, okay? He's like, he said that shit, deadpan. He was like, yo, you're an Arby's world. Let's go to the bar. Watch this old guy.

closely here a battle between young and old don't mess with old guys the power's last thing to go look you know what I mean you know what is that is that is that motherfucking Andy Ruiz holy shit look at Andy Ruiz out there just beating up dogs oh let's go to South Texas

this was in a What a Burger they'll throw down quick down there in Texas Luke they're not going to F around all right What a burger more like what a brawl Yeah we got chairs on Like, bam. Ooh. Dude, and he's hitting him with the legs of the chair.

Oh, fuck. Yeah, the guy's still standing. Look at cowboy hats getting involved now, too. Look at this. There's 15, there's 15 guys in this brawl and not one of them has a good haircut. No, no, not at all. By the way, I went into a What a Burger two weeks ago in San Antonio, Luke, got the Blackberry Dr. Pepper milkshake. Changed my life.

Blackberry Dr. Pepper milkshake? It was phenomenal, just a, and I got to be honest. It sounds pretty good. That sounds pretty good. Luke, big weekend for the now first place Chicago Bears. Watch this fan who knows how to party bringing the old bag of cold spaghetti. Check it out, right? Is this AI?

No, this is real. You know NFL fans, Luke, they don't have class, right? You know what I mean? Dude, why would you ever go to an NFL game where you're sitting next to somebody who's probably stabbed a person before eating spaghetti out of a plastic fucking bag? Just the worst. Dude, NFL fans are the biggest degenerates. They talk shit about MMA fans. NFL fans are far worse, in my opinion.

Well, Luke, the bears are in first place. And you know who celebrated that? Friend of the program, Ray Flores. Oh, yeah. What a comeback. Here at Soldier Field The Bears are bats Teens of the North

Yes, yes, yes, yes And also Green Bay sucks Let's go I said Yeah Woohoo Oh yeah Completely sober too

Completely sober for that one Sober as shit Cold as fuck there's no Hasbola my man rides for the bears you know what I'm saying by the way I enjoyed that shout out to ray because he when they lose like normally they've been bad in last three years when they lose he posts like the most downtrodden depressed like recap videos of him talking about the game good for Ray all right that's what I'm talking about and also that win was pretty cool it was a good win yeah shout out to the bears there uh Luke these new husband wife trust challenge videos are

getting out of control online you're going to try this with the misses or what bro i'm 46 do you think i trust the integrity of my stream are you kidding me me first stream he goes down hey hey look what fight are you looking forward to most in 2026 yeah me versus my prostate that's what i'm looking forward to that's a that's going to be an epic battle uh luke your toilet of the week is a high elevation one would you try this one I, oh my God. Hold on. Show one more time.

Show one more time. Those guys risking their lives to drop a deuce, right? I would drop a deuce there with great, great regularity and joy. Yes. All right. Your drunk piss of the week comes from this gentleman, day drinking Don over here. Uh-oh. Oh, just hiding in the, next to a gas station, it appears?

Yep. This guy's getting after it early. Yeah. Yeah, he's, oh, I've been, brother, I've been there. Tell me tell you. This is a very familiar fucking walk here, B.C. He's trying. He's trying to get the right.

Okay, there you go. Hey, hey, show me a video of Luke in his 20s. Yeah, it looks a lot like that. Yeah, that does look a lot like that. Luke, you got to be careful the way you handle scissors. We were taught that very early, right? Here's a PSA on it. Sometimes you see people carrying scissors like this.

Well, that's wrong. You're always supposed to carry him like this. Here's why. You can be walking. And you're fine. But if you're walking around with your scissors like this and then you fall. It's good that you're leaving the show. It's good.

Let's head over to the Hardwood. The New York Knicks won that stupid regular season tournament they had. And watch the way Josh Hart celebrates with Jalen Brunson's sphincter, Luke. Look at that. Wow, a little oil change. Little how's your father, right? Yeah, what the fuck? That's not AI, Luke.

That is not AI at all. You should be glad. I've never done that to you. I've never done the old up the old. Yeah, we don't have that in our relationship. We touch tips, but not this, not that. Also, front row at an NBA game was Floyd Mayweather. True to his brand, Luke.

Look at his stack he pulls out of the bag. Just casually counting. Does he also have a bag of spaghetti in there? Yeah. Just casually count in hundos. Look at that. JZ does not. not look impressed not at all not at all uh watch this NBA security guard reading the situation

and executing right about now oh yeah oh dude that was fucking great great timing great work right there the swim move to get free yeah oh let's go to the indoor soccer field watch the spectator in the upper deck here on this goal kick oh boy why don't you watch the ball yeah yeah direct hit you dumb ass it was unfortunately a young girl luke but you know that's whatever hey new meaning to the phrase nose beers you're in columbia you know about this i've seen this motherfucker before he's gross great yeah watch this shit yo look at his eyeballs yo oh my god how do you is that possible i don't even know how that's possible wouldn't you choke I mean, he's got some way to control it, obviously. But, you know, he's going to die soon. Let's just be honest.

No one who does this lives to be a grandparent, right? That's a fair point. That's a fair point. It was either that or what was that William Hong song? She bang. Yeah, yeah, it was either that or that. All right. Luke, it's time to rate that tat.

1 to 10, 10, an artistic genius, won a debacle. Let's go to UFC Rising Welterweight. Morales, who was put to sleep with six different artists to get this backslash. Your thoughts? I don't love it. It's not that there's not parts of it that are well done, but it's a bit of a confused kind of artistic look, number one, and number two, it's a little hard to read, right? It's hard to tell what's what in parts of these.

You know, it's cohesive in terms of like the physical location. and everything obviously spans the entirety of the back but this is this is a problem with tattoos and it's a problem that i have too which is it takes people a little while to figure out what their style is and then by that point you've got a mix mash of different tattoo styles and your body looks like some fucking kids scribbled on it so you know we're going to need a rating look i'm sorry that's the name of the segment you know it's rate that tat right um i mean six i'll give it a six okay okay okay uh let's go to way our second one's a holiday themed for christmas time there's marv and the other guy that's

pretty good i give that one maybe a seven and a half all right all right i like that you can see the iron stain on on his forehead there and finally we're going w wf themed this time with a little ston cold stone cold look i mean you know me i'm not the biggest pro wrestling guy but this is clearly a 10 out of 10 let's be honest yeah thank you very much i appreciated that all right this week in child birthday cakes uh you got to be careful when you're the designer writing it that was supposed to say happy birthday rebel scum i didn't notice it at first i was like why did she write come on the cake and oh right yeah yeah that's great uh our second one let's go to the kids birthday party once more watch this kid here as he's blowing it out he's like screw blowing it out let me inhale it

hell yeah let me get a let me get a hit off that yeah let me smell it yeah all right great stuff there let's go to the shopping mall a dying art from our youth luke here's your parkour shopping mall move of the week does this man oh shit that's insane that is insane yo you don't appreciate this and i didn't until i got here either dude columbia the shopping mall's here are it's like being back in the 90s i'm not exaggerating everybody's there all the major shops are there they're packed all the time and they're they're they're nice and shit like it's it's like our teens all over again here i'm not sure why columbian mole cultures this way but it definitely when i was in san juan to call fights the shopping malls were like it had that same vibe of like

everybody in line at orange julius it was great i very quickly just want to say i was at the mall yesterday and they had a fogo de chow luke the place you've talked about this whole time you have one so now i got to go check that out yeah they're expensive and the food's not that great it's okay but like they'll bring you a bunch of it that's that's the key all right look we've got two more for you to close here let's watch this news broadcasts very closely what do you have going on for us they're still inside searching for evidence i'm told six people have been arrested and charged with intent to possess and deliver cocaine, I'm told as much as 44 pounds of cocaine. As I said, they're still inside.

They used a battering ramp to break through glass in a steel reinforced door here. We first heard about it through a tip line call early this afternoon. They could have used that prosthetic to open the door, right? I mean, some of these dongs are weapons, brother. That's just how it goes out there. Luke, have you tried the Applevision Pro? yet. Are you expecting one under your tree for Christmas?

I'd rather get fucked to death by an eight-dict walrus, no. All right, well, this guy shows how it's done. They don't try on the Applevision pros. Oh, brother. Oh, yeah. Are I being too loud?

I'm being loud? Yeah, that's all the, that's all the shit the sensors could handle it. All right, all right. You know what? You know what? You know what? That's a B. that's a B.

Oh, yeah, I'll take B cups if I have to. Yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, beggars can't be choosers. I'll take a B. That's true. All right, that's all the shit we got. That's all the show we got. Thank you so much for tuning in.

Long Island, Luke, what's going on with the merch these days, brother? The merch, we have only the Lucha posters left, and there's only like one or two of them left. So if anyone wants a B.C. L. L.T. Autographed Lucha poster, You got two chances to get it. Other than that, shirts fully available. Everyone can get them. Morningcombat. Shop, baby.

Get our December exclusive there with the Masters of the Universe. And of course, mix and match the colors, you know, but yeah, get it. I mean, you probably can't get it for Christmas, but you get it for Valentine's Day. So that's a great way to save a relationship. Get a 50% off T-shirt with B.C.'s face on it. Long Island Luke, can we be expecting content from you, or is this a holiday week? what's going on i will have two videos this week but they're not coming out till later in the week friday i'll have a new episode of prop quiz saturday i did a whole channel recap of all my

bets uh our topology league kind of everything it's only like five minutes long but i'll put that out saturday if anyone's interested in then all right uh l t we will be recording tomorrow and a very fun episode that will air in friday's spot this friday december 26 11 a m eastern should we tease it or just let it float don't tease it let it flow don't tease it let it flow I think it'll be a nice surprise for the dogs. All right. All right. You have that to look forward to.

LT, as people, of course, can like, subscribe, continue to support this show. Yeah, all you divorced dads, audio only there in the grocery store. We got you. We feel you. You're probably feeling yourself right now, too, but we feel you. Luke, what are you feeling as we enter the Christmas holiday season here? I mean, it's all about toks in the end. Yeah, and also, I got to take a shit.

So that's great. That's great. All right. So, Luke, you'll be back in Columbia. So we'll be back on Friday, Monday after that. Don't forget the final BC episode, Monday, January 5th. So get tuned in for that. And most importantly, have a great holiday, whether you celebrate the Christmas, the Kwanza, the eight nights of Hanukkah, whatever you're into.

Get with the family. Don't stress. Enjoy it. Right? I mean, look, you're not getting. into political American debates down there in Columbia, right? No, but they had a lot of questions for me yesterday.

They had a lot of questions for me. So that was fun. I had a good time with that. You're going to go maybe get on one of those Venezuelan tankers out in the ocean just for a little No, no, no. I won't, you might, listen,

you might see someone die on a speedboat on, you know, on social media when it gets bombed by a drone, but I won't be on it i'm going to be landlocked here i'm going to be taking good care of myself yes all right that's great stuff there i wish you guys a fantastic holiday season luke i hope tukes has the best time of her life enjoy everything columbia has to offer for you same thing with the no cdas i mean get high out christmas do it right let's do it right appreciate you too bc let's do it uh all you people out

there enjoy it it's the end of the year next year's going to be even better okay believe in yourself take care of yourself we love you will be back Friday. It's going to be a fun one. So get ready as you're throwing away all that wrapping paper. For the great people that work on this show, Matt Snyder, Long Island, Luke, the great Brian Daly.

We wish them as well. Everyone at all the smoke fight. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. And thank you to our incredible listeners and viewers. It's been such a great run. It'll keep going. It's going to continue. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year from M.K.

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