MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Jake Paul KOs Mike Perry, UFC Vegas 94 Recap, Loma Ducks Tank | Full Episode | Morning Kombat

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

Another MK Monday is here for all you loyal donks out there. This week Luke and Brian react to Jake Paul's dominating win over Mike Perry, Conor McGregor instantly dropping Perry from BKFC after his perfomrance and prospect Ashton Sylve's devasting KO loss. Hust how sick are you of having to watch MMA fighters box for a big pay day Plus, they recap all the action from UFC Vegas 94. Is Virna Jandiroba the next contender to face Zhang Weili? Vasiliy Lomachenko decided to pass on a fight with Tank Davis. Given that choice, where does Tank go from here? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And if you're like me and think a TFSA stands for Total Fund Savings Adventure, maybe reach out to TD Direct Investing. Look at us now. Tip to tip. Oh, Jesus. Do you want a margarita? Oh, my God. It's us doing what we love. You, me, you, me. It's time is out. Holy shit, I'm tired. Are you so upset about Biden pulling out or what? You know what I mean?

No, my heart might explode between now and the end of the show. You don't sleep anymore, Luke Thomas. I have slept, I'm not kidding, in the last three days probably a combined 10 hours. I got the cure for the common sleep issues here. Janji Roba versus Lee Mosher. No, that's not fair.

I actually did take a two minute nap on the train on the way here. Hi everybody, it's Morning Combat. Hello everybody, it's the Morning Zoo with BC and LT. You know, the world is on on fire so why don't we just have like stupid fun this show can be brilliantly dumb from time to time yeah i don't plan on doing anything serious today except to dunk on jake paul that's it i'll allow one fart into the microphone if you're willing today all right uh i'm usually pretty willing for that uh by the way

i didn't take a dump in the bathroom here yes which by law i am allowed to take a dump no no they have ass sensors that would know that. By law, I'm allowed to take a dump, but I didn't. So I'm here to talk about, let's see, we had Jake Paul versus Mike Perry over the weekend, which was really a dreadful affair in the end. Like, I left Diaz versus Masvidal being like, wow, that

actually was a lot better than I expected. That's what they said, too, until they didn't get paid. Did you get paid? Not yet, but I'm told that. So many people reached out to me to ask, hey, did BC get paid? No, I appreciate that. I'm told that the people paying me already got paid, so, you know, by proxy. So you're going through a third party, essentially.

Okay, okay. All right, well, then that's good. But I left that fight being like, you know what? That was not so bad. It was great, actually. And then on Saturday, I was like, dude, that fucking sucked. What happened? All right, so we'll talk about that. There was a UFC event over the weekend. bad it was great and then on saturday i was like dude that fucking sucked what happened all right so we'll talk about that there was a ufc event over the weekend if a tree falls in the forest

and no one hears it did it fall i don't know hey my guy's korean superman now all right korean superman he's 33 33 right there he aged a little bit imagine if tom duquesne walk and come back that guy must be banging across france right now he's doing the old johnny walker just just fucking his way through Europe. All my favorite fighters are back, yeah. So we'll get to that. By the way, Loma's not going to fight Tank. We'll talk about that. And of course, this is officially UFC 304 Fight Week. So

thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. Thumbs up if you're watching on YouTube. If you're listening on your favorite podcast platform, do be so kind as to leave us a nice review. Long Island Luke on the ones and twos. Hey, why don't you tell them what's going on long island luke not much is going on we're just chilling play the new sounds we got that we got breaking news now

it's just in get that hip-hop horn ready ready i'm gonna do like Funkmaster Flex. It's like, y'all have had diarrhea all weekend. I think I might stroke out in the middle of today's show. What is Jingeroba looking at? Is it normal to have blood in your stool? It's going to be one of those kinds of shows today. Just one of them days.

Hey, what I just realized while I was doing research ahead of the Mike Perry fight. Do you know in our new intro where it says, shout out to Morning Combat? That's Mike Perry. I never realized that before. Is that Mike Perry? Yes, it is. Well, shout out to Mike Perry. It did not go great for him on Saturday, but I guess he got paid.

Hey, it's still red panty night in the Perry house, all right, as long as that check cleared. See, Connor said on Twitter, it's like, or maybe he said somewhere else, the check was no different than what he would have gotten from BKFC. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Also, Connor just fired him, apparently, so we'll get into that as well. Yeah, there's that as well. Also, Canon Sound and our boy Nadir is here as well.

That's right. Shout out to our folks here at Metal Ark in Manhattan. I drove in from Philly. By the way, okay, I'll say this. The drive from philly to new york has always been pretty barren and decrepit it's not that long though it's like what hour and a half right because here's why it's not that long shout out to the tri-state area of which i reside and come from here in connecticut people are willing to average 85 miles per hour

across four lanes yeah they're from that drive from philly to new york just straight up everybody in on it together it's like collectively we're saying we are all willing to to uh to break the law but we'll do it together to lower the potential risk and impact and we're just going to drive balls out i respect that you know what you start what happened to me when i used to work at sirius xm so i had my show was 3 to 6 p.m and so then i would catch the 6 45 train from new york to dc every time i was on that train do you know who's on the train with me? Every single time. Flavor Flav. No, but not a bad guess, actually.

The Roots Band. You know the Roots? Oh, yes. Because they- Questlove on drums? So if Questlove was always on there, they would record the Tonight Show in the middle of the day, and then they'd go home to Philly. They would take the Philly, the train back, and I would always ride with them.

You're like, I can feel your pain about this commute. It's taken my soul before. Well, I would have to go a lot further. I'd have to go a lot further i had to go a lot further they get off in philly how far is it from philly to dc three two and a half three oh so it's closer from new york to philly then ultimately yeah philly to new york is a breeze yeah uh yeah it's it's it's a breeze it's a fucking breeze okay um all right so, so merch, morningcombat.store. Hey, I'm wearing it. I'm wearing it.

I got some merch here. You get the jacket right there, merch. Look at these washed dads right here. This is fantastic. Now, I think RJ's still alive. I think. I got recognized walking into the grocery store the other day, and then I got similarly recognized walking out of it,

and Tookie asked, why do they care about you? And I was like, I'm not sure that they do, do they care about you and i was like and i was like i'm not sure that they do but but but they care about the show well tuki they've been paying for your clothes for a long time i'm just super they really care about you for your uh your dentist visits i got um i was uh at the eighth row store the other day in uh in the in the state of massachusetts and got recognized shout out to the donk. The Budmaster himself. Shout out to that guy. When he had a pistol in his face and you were like,

give me all you got? Yeah, pretty much. But that's great. That's great. Great stuff. Yeah, I mean, I guess we can talk about fights today, but I'm just as willing to talk about 70s jazz fusion or chicks without kids.

Have you showered? Last night I showered. No, this morning. Yeah, I showered this morning yeah i showered this morning yes i was at i was doing the team combat league playoffs the last couple days um but i'm i am clean at the moment no cita let me tell you something there's you can tell when you have a kid who goes to like pre-k and kindergarten you can tell whose parents wash them the night before and then just get out of bed and let them just roll up in

there looking like i'm wearing black sweatpants and my uh my tupac socks you know which is just fantastic or you can tell which ones you know bathe their kid that morning yeah a lot of very cochino this is what what a content man looks like a guy who knows who he is knows his place in this world and on this podcast luke right now now. I mean, this is it, you know? What'd you beat in the air? I genuinely hope you get shot on the way home. I really mean that. That's not fair.

That's not nice either. Okay. Wow. Oh, Jesus. Sorry. Dude, the guy next to me on the train had rancid breath. I mean, rancid. What, were you making out with him, Luke?

No, he had coffee. Then he was heavy mouth breathing. Oh, great. So then you could just smell. He's like a Thomas. You could just smell. Yes! All right, well, with that in mind, we have to get the show started.

Yeah, we should. We should get into it, right? We should get this started. BC, did you watch the Jake Paul fight live? You did, right? I was scoring it for uh cbs sports and uh we were on hq together afterwards so yes okay indeed with that in mind let's then talk about it you want my score look is that what you want we'll get to that in a minute

uh let's talk about this now topic number one bc jake paul of course basically easily defeated mike perry in a cruiserweight main event on his own pay-per-view on Saturday night in Tampa, Florida, BC. I have a lot of thoughts on this. I've shared some of them. I haven't heard yours. So let's get right to it. Is there something different, something outrageous maybe about this particular fight being what feels to me like over the top sandbagging from Jake Paul, now 11 fights into his career, or is that overstated hyperbole? It's kind of a little bit of both. Unfortunately, the problem is that this fight went the worst-case scenario across the board.

Now, not really the worst case, because at least there were some fun moments. Mike Perry showing an ungodly element of resolve to get up off the canvas twice to continue to try to make inroads and Luke to his credit, there was a brief window there in rounds three and four where I'm like, Hey, maybe Jake Paul's going to gas out.

Maybe this is the zombie that won't go away. And maybe we're going to find Jake Paul in a real, not a close fight. He's been in those before one against Woodley, one against that he lost of course, against Tommy Fury there. But maybe this would be what we've been wanting to see Jake, meet his match.

Not meet his match and lose, maybe meet his match and overcome, but meet his match. Mike Perry, I think, tried his best. But look, the same thing that we said, we were excited this fight got booked because it kind of went against the grain of Jake Paul mopping up on MMA has-beens who have no hands or passed their prime and shouldn't be in there. Mike Perry is at least in his prime.

We broke that all down. You know all that. But, Luke, it not only was worst-case scenario because of the massive size difference, and let's not lie about it. Mike was already boxing over his head at 185 in BKFC. He was able to do it because of that fighting spirit, because of the style in there, and the rule set, and he gets right in your grill and he can deal with the bare knuckle hands. He knows what he's doing.

They're dangerous weapons. Boxing is different. And I think the size completely worked in Jake's factor. And then Luke, we've got to be really honest. We love Mike Perry. We love what he brings to the table in MMA and in BKFC, which is his perfect fighting space.

It didn't look in the ring outside of after he got, after he got beat up for two rounds, and you finally saw him get up and kind of do a little bit of these darting moves, which take a lot of energy to slip a punch and land one. There was a couple of those bright moments, but outside of that, he didn't bring traditional boxing technique to the table at all, and it's what led immediately to his unraveling. Now, he's so obscenely tough that he,

he was willing to walk through hell to get to at least the length that did. But I think what we saw in those first two rounds, Luke, the worst case scenario with the size difference and the worst case scenario with the technique difference, because if Mike is going to come in, which he did flat footed squaring up hands like this, but not really covering up basically eating what Jake has to try to find an opening to land one. That's the thing. When we're comparing Jake to legitimate boxers,

which sometimes he flirts with trying to make that comparison. I know he closed the fight by saying, I'll be Cruiserweight champion within two years. In that lane, I'm not sure. But in this celebrity crossover lane, dude, Jake can fight. He's got technique. He's got skills. He's got enough gas tank and heart but he was a plus 200 pounder preparing for mike tyson things change he comes back down to 200 mike perry's a 170 pound mma guy

who had been fighting over his head now he was fighting way over his head no it was worst case scenario wasn't competitive i'm glad mike got paid i thought the two of them sold the shit out of this fight to what they could. I thought there was enough back and forth. There was enough crazy weird moments. It was what we wanted from that but it really played in there because Jake is the pound for pound face

of this crossover boxing bubble if there's even a pound for pound ranking in there. I know some people in my DMs going, BC, stop calling it a bubble. It would have burst already if it was a bubble. This is a movement. This is a thing. They just, they just did a YouTube boxing event in Spain and it looked like WrestleMania.

Okay. Maybe it's still a thing, but the thing of us trying to really care about Jake Paul, and we will care about the Mike Tyson fight. And he knows how to attract himself and attract an audience. He is going to have to do better matchmaking wise. Yeah. If this is what the future is going to look like,

because this was a prime able MMA guy, but you see that difference. And it's almost like Jake is too good for this bubble. Does that make sense? He's almost, he's a tweener. He's almost too good size wise and technically for this bubble, but not good enough in my opinion to ever legitimately compete for a world

title outside of like the wbc using his stardom and plucking him in so if he's going to stay in this lane and he is with mike tyson this is the same lane he's going to have to if he wants people to truly care he's going to have to do better matchmaking wise than here and some of this is perry's fault luke i don't know what he was training in camp because it will you've got to bring the basic elements of head movement and defense to the table. I didn't understand his strategy at all. It's not going to work. His strategy was to eat everything Jake had and come back.

No, but I mean, like, in boxing, for example, if you're going to be the guy who moves forward, I mean, there's all different kinds of styles in boxing, right? If you're going to be the guy that moves forward, that's the thing you want to do. Because, by the way, I will say, and I said this to you on CBS Sports HQ on Saturday, I will maintain that if you put Jake Paul under pressure put him on his heels he has a very difficult time dealing with it some fighters can deal with pressure quite well they

actually invite it Jake Paul's not one of those guys and you can see him looking down dude I mentioned it on my live stream that I was doing it. Look at how often. Do you remember the tape study I did years ago? He has not corrected that. He still looks down and then just kind of throws. Sometimes he lands, sometimes he doesn't. But I didn't understand. If you're going to be the guy that walks forward, you've got to do the Esau Cruz bit, and you've got to be here or here.

There's a window to gas him out. He's a big dude. But Mike was this. His hands were here. The strategy was baffling. Yeah, shouldn't he have tried to be dirtier too? To be very fair. He should have been. There were times he was doing that, but this is what I mean.

At a bare minimum, if I'm Mike Perry and you're Jake Paul and I've got to get you against the ropes, because once I've got you against the ropes, then I can just unload or whatever I'm going to do. If I get behind a shield and I just kind of push in right I'm still going to eat a little bit but probably a lot less than other things versus versus zero head movement squaring up I just couldn't believe it unfortunately you know they did bring it up on the broadcast

rightfully so on on the DAZN broadcast that you know there wasn't even elements of like using his legs and in bed in in duck ducking down to unload big punches. There was a lot of just flat footed arm punching. He did some pre-slips. He would slip like this. Once he got beat up, there was those moments where he started to bring some of those elements and you're like,

can he spark a rally? This is interesting. So I don't think this was a debacle, lacking of entertainment, but it just, it fell into that predictable plan far too early. And to your point, Luke, when you come in with no defense and no plan seemingly,

it's not going to work. You've got to give Jake that credit. You have to understand what you're fighting here. It's a guy that's going to stack the deck against you. He's going to be younger. He's going to be bigger. And for the most part, because he's taking this seriously, he's going to be a better boxer than you.

So to upset that apple cart, you have to explode. And that explosion has to be through mercilessly trying to gas him out or just bringing volume tommy fury brought both he brought the volume of the jabs and he had the size to lean on and hold up yes guy like i don't know how many pro fighters care about my opinion about this you can dismiss it it doesn't matter i am telling you, watch the fucking tape on Jake Paul. If you pressure him, he will make a gazillion mistakes through the course of dealing with that, with bad shot selection, hasty timing, he'll cross his feet up, he'll go square to you, he'll look down, he'll get out of position,

he'll be off balance. That is the key to beating him. But okay, I want to say something about this fight, because after it was over, like watching it partly, we have to accept some responsibility. Cause I think we did think Mike was going to perform better. Even we knew we didn't think he was going to win.

Right. We know, no, there was no chance we were predicting he was going to win. We expected a back and forth, a little bit more of a back and forth. And again, we weren't asking a lot from Mike.

I think getting up here would have just made a lot of sense, right? But he didn't do that, so it ended up being what it was. Here is my sense of things, BC. There was a time in Jake Paul's ascension where at least a little bit there was escalation of danger with each subsequent opponent. So he goes from the gentleman, I don't remember his name. Anison Gibb? each subsequent opponent. So he goes from the gentleman, I don't remember his name. Annie Sengib. The one who I was, the pre-diabetic gas station attendant who then tried to cancel me by hashtagging CBS on Twitter. So that was his first opponent.

Then he goes and fights Nate Robinson, who's an athlete. You're like, okay. 5'9 athlete who had never put on a pair of gloves two weeks before. A professional athlete. Okay, and then he goes to Ben Askren. You're like, okay, well that's a guy. Post-tip surgery. Okay, no, no, we know what the score is. No, I got it, I got it. Okay, and then he goes to Ben Askren. You're like, okay, well that's a guy. Post-tip surgery. Okay, no, no. We know what the score is. No, I got it. Okay, but then he goes to Tyron Woodley

who I know had washed out of UFC, but you're like, this guy was a champion in UFC. And in the first fight, Tyron hurt him, sent him to the ropes, and it was close. There was danger there. Now, the rematch they had to do because there was the opponent change and everything fell out with Rockman Jr.

So whatever. And that was a terrible fight, but at least he got the knockout. And then you're like, okay, we're slowly beginning to build to something here. And I know Anderson Silva was old, but hello, it's Anderson Silva. We picked Anderson Silva. I remember getting laughed at by the Showtime higher-ups. They're like, you really think this 50-year-old guy can do it? I'm like, yeah.

Well, we're like, he's not any 50-year-old guy. It turns out he was. Remember, he got knocked down, although he was able to go the distance. But after Tommy Fury, the full boxer that he fought, there has been a regression

in matchmaking. Let me finish the point. You give him the Nate Diaz fight, though. You got to give him that. The Nate Diaz fight is great, too, for him. But I'm saying,

in general, we had a little bit of a bump with Nate Diaz, and we have, the matchmaking has regressed. The two boxers that he fought, the Andre August and whoever the guy's name was, I looked up on tape on him. I mean, you could not—

Oh, let me tell you— Not even a club-level fighter. But let me just jump in, because I had to cover those fights for CBS. Both of those fighters had essentially retired for three years, were done with boxing, and Jake only took those fights not because he was angling toward to become a Cruiserweight champion like they built it, because he had outstanding dates that he owed to zone on his prospect series and didn't have

prospects in the stable to put him out there, so he just player-coached himself back in. This is my point. Now we had what happened with Perry and then, of course, Mike Tyson on the horizon. The thing that really gets me is I can accept this bubble for what it is if you give maximum effort like you

got with Diaz and Masvidal or if there is some reason to believe that the matchmaking is more interesting than just naked sandbagging this was naked sandbagging if ever there was one and then the the problem is now the next fight feels like even more of grotesque sandbagging. It's crazy. Look, here's what I just want to say. I'll pitch it to you. I'll pitch it to you,

which is I understand that if there's a market for this, who gives a shit what our opinion is. But the thing that really offended me after Saturday was dude, you, you can't have it both ways. You can't ask for props. You can't say no one believed in me when you're like a minus 550 favorite and you're fighting guys who god bless mike perry he is tough as shit and he has turned

his life around and i hope he got a huge bag but he's fighting with basically no defense dude you can't have it both ways either you're sandbagging and we have a right to call it that or you're fucking not and right now it's sandbagging. I think if you're going to defend Jake, you'll just say this was supposed to be Tyson. They looked at the landscape of who was available. They caught Mike Perry at the right time when his brand was so huge. And I think it was enough where a lot of people were fooled, Luke, when this fight got built. I mean, even we had conversations over text initially when the fight was announced.

Like, holy shit. It's because Perry was on a run and he was 32. He wasn't completely over the hill. He has that superpower of being able to take a lot of punishment and back you up to a point where you question your own manhood and your backbone. We never quite got there ultimately. But it leads us, I think, to the call out for Jake of Alex Pereira, right? Because this would be a return to that escalation. But Luke, and I have a lot to say about who I think he really should fight.

And it's not Poetan. We had come into this fight against Mike Perry kind of questioning, like, what does this mean for the Mike Tyson fight? Meaning if Jake Paul loses, let's say he lost the decision. Say he got outworked and dropped by Perry, but lost the decision. You could argue afterwards, Luke, that that actually would help the Mike Tyson fight because a lot of the, the appeal to people are the idea that this old hero is going to come out of retirement, George Foreman style, but even, you know,

more extreme and knock out the wannabe boxer who's disrupting everybody. And we wondered, Luke, if this was a loss to Perry, whether this would actually make that fight more exciting and enjoyable and maybe level out the playing field even more. This is almost, would you say this almost feels like worst case scenario now for Jake? Because he just fought a guy that the public was kind of tricked into believing was the guy that could stand up to him. And he destroyed him largely because of those built-in advantages. But also as we broke down, because Perry didn't bring defense to the table. Now I don't want to see mike tyson at all and i was the guy who kind of came around after

being initially like oh no mike at 59 no but i do think that the quote i told you from nikisa bedarian of mvp promotions when he was on aerial show where he said i get what you people are saying about the age but the age is what sells this fight if the age wasn't this wide people wouldn't be into this fight it's the only way this fight can happen. But Luke, I think what we just saw Jake continue to get better in this bubble, in this space of fighting non-boxers,

that when you're fighting an old guy who is a great boxer, you're essentially still kind of fighting a non-boxer. I feel like this widens our expectations even more that this Tyson fight won't be worth it and won't go in the right direction. I have no hope for it now. I have zero.

I mean, I'm not going to ask you if they should end it, if they should just cancel it. Let me be clear. I had none to begin with, but I was excited and I still am in a different way about the prospect of Netflix being involved in combat sports. Again,

it's the world's biggest streamer by a million miles. That prospect alone is exciting, but I'm like, Jesus, this is the initial foray, the King of sandbagging taking on a 58 year old guy who had to delay this by a million miles. That prospect alone is exciting. But I'm like, Jesus, this is the initial foray, the king of sandbagging, taking on a 58-year-old guy who had to delay this flight because he had fucking ulcers. What the fuck are we doing?

And we're fighting in the two states that have the least amount of regulation, Florida and Texas. Again, what the fuck are we doing? And that fight being delayed, Luke, real quick, is the worst-case scenario because it allows more time to examine and look in on whether the fight should be happening. If it was almost a short turnaround, if it was almost like,

oh shit, they're actually going to do this, and then they just do it, you would have watched. Now I'm literally asking you, I know they won't cancel it because the money is so insanely large. It's enormous, yes. Should they? Like, is this going to be anything? In response to Nikisa, I understand that age being one of those, there's a number of factors that make a fight work.

And they kind of, the puzzle is all kind of work. Yeah. But if taking on a guy who is closer to collecting social security than he is his own 45th birthday, it doesn't work like if you are making a calculation about age we're like well if it wasn't for the age it wouldn't work right but it also doesn't work because you're having to like it is such a determinative factor because he has reached a level of medical alarm given his age so that that's no response either that's just, well, it works on paper that way. But in reality, it's this grotesque version of something else. I mean, here's the thing, dude.

Like, we were kind of bagging on Darren Till, and I don't know what kind of fight he would have given, but would you rather see Jake Paul versus Darren Till? I'm not saying you have a high degree of interest in seeing Jake Paul versus Darren Till. I'd almost rather see it than Tyson. Almost? I would definitively rather see that. Yes, and my holding on to any form

of still wanting the Tyson fight, which is getting smaller by the day, is tied into what you're saying about Netflix's role in it just as much as it is just the ridiculous spectacle and the idea of could Mike, right? Could he just do that one crazy thing,

which is knock down or knock out Jake, but after watching Jake in another fight where he had the deck stacked for him, God, I fear for Mike. This is what I mean. There was a while there where Jake was kind of surprising us a little bit. I know I can certainly admit I think I was a little bit surprised in a few of those matchups.

Fighting 49-year-old Anderson Silva at the time he did. At the time he did when Silva had just upset Chavez Jr. Perfect, perfect. So there was a little bit of subverting expectations. Okay, very good. But if what we're doing is now ham-fisted obvious sandbagging because we're just going to change the the quotient on paper about what's what and now we're just going to bank on name value versus absent any other value to the fight it's something that's really there's there's zero value to this fight other than holy shit it's mike tyson right i don't know let me ask

the question this way australian luke that's i'm going to call him from now i'll see luke don't be yeah yeah i'll see rules luke i'll see rules luke did the fight and the way it played out on saturday make you want to see jake paul versus mike tyson less or more less okay tell me why i'm with you i think uh him fighting someone like darren till is way better i was never into the Is Mike Tyson less or more? Less. Okay, tell me why. I'm with you. I think him fighting someone like Darren Till is way better. I was never into the Tyson fight to begin with, man. He's way too old.

There's no interest there for me, if I'm being honest. But just the way, the heavy-handed nature of the sandbagging this weekend. It's like, dude, you have to prove something to us. I don't know if it's quite the right word, but for this magic trick to have any value, you have to kind of up the ante a little bit. Let's talk about up in the ante, because I'm ready to say this, Luke. I'm ready to stand on the business and all that. The problem here is that Jake is getting too good too fast,

if that's a problem, right? I don't agree with that. No, in this bubble, but not good enough, in my opinion, to do what he will alternately tease. And he did it again, saying I'll be Cruiserweight Champion in two years, and tried to make us believe that those two early knockouts against those bums

were like the perfect escalation for him getting in line to do that. By the way, if he decides to do that, WBC are going to bend over backwards to make that happen. They were almost going to rank him if he had beaten Tommy Fury. Remember that? And it's the same WBC who won't force Canelo to defend his title against anybody. Forget Benavidez or Morel, anybody. And yet we'll, you know, do that in other, other weight classes.

I like the call out of Poetan, but I want to put Poetan over here because it's under UFC contract. And do I really believe that Dana White's going to go, we got to stop this Jake Paul situation. And I got the idea. Co-promotion. We'll send Poetan. He'll handle it.

It's over. No, they're not going to give Jake Paul that payday. Okay. They're not going to do that. We'll get to Poet. He'll handle it. It's over. No, they're not going to give Jake Paul that payday. Okay, they're not going to do that. We'll get to Poiton in the next segment. Right. So here's my shit or get off the pot for a moment for Jake Paul. Pick a lane and stick with it. And it doesn't

mean, you can argue that in CBC. Can he do both? Can he do the celebrity big fights and try to chase a title? He can if he wants. But here's the deal. He's a tweener right now in my opinion. I don't think he's good enough for legitimate fights. I think that's why you're never seeing him fight a legitimate guy. And the only borderline legitimate guy he fought,

Tommy Fury, younger half-brother of Tyson Fury, he lost the fight. It was a guy his own size, which is really, we're at the point now, Jake, where you've adjusted really quick to this boxing thing. You've done a great job. You take it very serious. We never took that away from you.

So now you've got to up the ante. And maybe this is bad timing now that Mike Tyson is next, because I think it's just going to make Jake look more like a heel. Now there's, you can be marketable with that heel, but I think he's going to beat up Tyson bad. But if you're going to declare where you are, either go legitimate and let's do it. Let's line up the opponents that you need to legitimately get a title shot. But if that's not your true intention and you want to keep making money and make big spectacles, I almost say enough with the Tyson fight. Let's look in this bubble and say, okay, Jake, you're basically a heavyweight now. Let's just be very real about that. This fight was a 200 pound catch weight because you are at heavyweight for Mike Tyson. You're coming down.

And for the most part, you handled the added weight. Well, a couple of moments look like you're going to gas out, But there is a boss in my opinion at the end of this video game. It's not Poetan because I don't think he's in this video game unless UFC's willing to co-promote and we're not there yet. Francis Ngannou is in this window. Yes! That's exactly the use of it. And I remember a year and a

half ago on this show going, hey, Jake keeps winning, man. That's really the big one. And we on this show going, hey, if Jake keeps winning, man, that's really the big one. And we all went, no, man, that size difference is way too much. No, Jake will get killed. But here's the deal. Francis has already achieved what Jake hasn't come close to yet and what would be a huge feather

in Jake's cap when Francis lost to Tyson Fury. He went in there against a legitimate guy in his prime who was actually the heavyweight champion of the world at that moment, and Luke, for whatever reasons we look back on, whatever combination of not taking Ngannou seriously with Fury being out of shape and all that,

it was a perfect storm where on that night, Francis Ngannou nearly upset the world and did something achievement-wise by scaring the heavyweight champion and knocking him down, really forcing him out of his game into a defensive holding battle the rest of the way. Jake hasn't done anything close to that in my opinion in terms of the legitimacy of boxing. But Jake, you're a heavyweight now.

So if you're going to be a heavyweight and go in there and potentially mop up on Mike Tyson. The real fight that people will really care about. Now look, if you do the Tyson fight, everyone's going to care and you're going to make a lot of money. So maybe I'll shut up on that. But how about after that? the real fight for me is Ngannou because Luke how you truly sell fights you can sell a few of them on bad blood you can sell a few of them as Jake did on man I just want to see if Jake's any good then you can sell a few more on man I just want to see if Jake gets knocked out so he can eat his words but we're at the point

where we can no longer sell the fights where you're going to take on an aging guy or you're going to take on a much smaller guy. For whatever people think about Jake Paul versus Conor McGregor. Yes, he's exhausted his options. And Conor McGregor versus Jake Paul still might be the biggest Super Bowl in this bubble just from cashing the most tickets and pay-per-view buys. But, Luke, that's a physical mismatch. You just saw the Mike Perry version of it.

That is a physical mismatch. Francis Ngannou is not. And Francis Ngannou just got sent to hell by a legitimate boxer in Anthony Joshua. And all reports is he's going to get back on the horse and still going to try it. Luke, tell me the downfall here. Because if Jake Cole is really that good...

You are asking too much because here's the reality. He's going from Mike Perry, a natural welterweight, to Mike Tyson, a heavyweight, but of course a nearly 60-year-old heavyweight. He would have to have some kind of middle ground because he's going to be giving up size with Francis Ngannou. He's going to be giving up probably pure power as well. He's going to be giving up reach, and he's going to be giving up height. He'd be giving up all of those factors. You're asking too much from a guy who is sandbagging against got people close

to collecting social security do you think the call out of poeton is the beginning of because all you have to give jake the credit that strategically he always knows where he is in this universe and always prepares himself he's always got backup fights ready i mean chavez jr just won on the undercard although he looked awful in terms of like he's always got the next guy ready like let's say mike tyson fell apart health wise. Could you sub in Chavez Jr? You probably could last minute, but you need to be able to challenge yourself at this. We're at the point now where we need to pay to see Jake challenge himself.

Luke, this is the ultimate challenge. So do you think him calling out Poiton is building that bridge of, of staying bigger and looking at saying, like, look, I'm going to fight Tyson. I'm going to be two 20 or whatever.

Let me just stay in this. Is that in your mind? Is that him getting closer to an Ngannou fight or you just think he wants nothing to do? Because I think he might be a better boxer than Ngannou. I actually love the Poiton call out. I mean, if you're me and my problem is, oh my God, this sandbagging is fucking outrageous, calling out Poiton is the opposite of that.

It's the exact opposite of that kind of a thing. And so for that reason, I actually kind of dig it. And I've seen people be like, oh, that's a fucking waste of time because UFC is never going to co-promote. Guys, I'm going to keep saying it. There is zero preventing any possible deal from happening other than executive choice. That's it. They could make that fucking fight, assuming they wanted to, tomorrow.

Today they could make it. They could make that fight today if they wanted to. I am not going to indulge corporate, what do you want to call this, like industry control as some kind of legitimate reason fights can't get made. That's a bullshit thing to bring up. There's nothing stopping it reason fights can't get made. That's a bullshit thing to bring up. It's doesn't,

it there's nothing stopping it other than they wish to exert control over the industry. I don't know. No one, not you, not me, not the audience watching. Nobody has a responsibility to honor that. Is that the same argument that people on the outside that are getting into

boxing that love it when they hear old boxing heads like me pre Turkey go, Oh, that fight can be never be made. I know that'd be the-Turkey go, oh, that fight can never be made. I know that'd be the next fight to make, but that fight can never be made. Let's not talk about it. Sometimes you'll see people go, no boxing. Shut up. Because if you do talk about it, maybe it can happen because what's really stopping

it is just people that don't want to work together. And to that fact, suddenly Turkey's here and there's more money than we've ever seen. And guys are working together. So this excuse, to your point point really is just one man's opinion and if dana's going to sit here and say that mma that you know mma will always be better than boxing because boxing does all this bullshit dude mma is doing a lot of boxing bullshit lately and dana being unwilling to co-promote with anyone is is that right there right fair enough now i've got a couple assets i want to throw to here we can conor mcgregor was watching conor mcgregor is a

part owner of bkfc they had done a press press conference in Spain for a card that's going to be there under the BKFC brand. He did not find Jake Paul's performance charming, nor Mike Perry's. Here's what he writes. Hey, Mike, you're released and you can go and compete in your smelly, dirty boxing championship thing. The smell of it. Good luck.

You're fired. All right. And then I guess prior to that, he had written, Jake Paul is the biggest piss bag i have ever seen in my life 40 pound weight difference juiced out of his head and still shitting himself in there nikisa you should take him to vegas oh that's right you could never the athletic commission testing real testing real fighting bitch asses you could never and then calling out 60 year-old Mike Tyson fresh off an in-flight medical emergency? I swear to God,

a fat can of bitch piss. Most valuable piss bag. I gotta say, Connor hit a 10 out of 10 on those tweets. Can you put that back up, Long Island Luke? I wish we had the ability

sometimes to make Morning Combat t-shirts like the day of. Can we sell a shirt right now that said a fat can of bitch piss on it? Yes. That would be fantastic. Yes, you can. That's genius.

Ray Dunkel-Bukaki, if you're watching this. Fat can of bitch piss. Please. Thank you. We see your reaction to that. I think a lot of people were really turned off by Saturday. I really mean that. Does he have the authority to fire?

No, Mike Perry did have a response at the press conference, correct? He did. I don't have the Mike Perry response. I do have the Jake Paul response if you want to see it. Hold on. Mike Perry's response was ultimately like, he said he's part owner. Does he calling himself, he's like, Connor can't fire me because I'm part owner of BKFC. I'm the same thing as him.

Mike's not, right? He's just saying that as the face of it. I was going to reach out to the Cabo brothers. I have not yet. Maybe I'll do that after the show. I mean, he dismissed it, but some of it also is related to mike perry randomly launching this dirty boxing promotion which is supposed to be kind of a hybrid of boxing and bkfc where you ground a pound you wear you wear five ounce gloves there's ground a pound to finish them and you can lead with elbows if you

want so i get that it's connor from bkfc saying hey biggest star of bkfc you're if you're going that way then why don't you just go that way? You're fired. But he doesn't have that ability, right? I mean, what does Dave Feldman think when that's happening? Mike Perry's one of their most viable stars. Alright, so we close that chapter. I think what he's saying about Jake Paul is actually fucking hilarious, first of all.

First of all, fucking hilarious. Actually, not wrong. That's the collective feel of MMA and boxing Twitter right now. True or false? I think so. Jake Paul did respond, and in fairness, we have his comments. Let's hear it. As soon as your fight ended, Conor McGregor said Mike Perry was fired from the BKFC.

Oh, my. Did he really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he took shots at you. He called you some derogative term. Any message for Conor McGregor? Hey, that's fucked up that he fired your your bkfc champion but i told you that was gonna happen you know i told you exactly what was gonna happen he was big upping his boy mike

perry i said okay connor like after i fuck up mike perry then you're next so connor's on twitter all the time he's on his yacht all the time but guess where where he's not? In the ring fighting me so he can talk all the fuck he wants, but the notorious MMA is scared of Jake Joseph Paul from Disney Channel, and I put that on my mama. Not a bad response, actually. No, it is, but here's the problem. Look, if that fight could be made tomorrow, would they make it? Yes.

Dude, he's way bigger than Conor. I mean, can we be realistic about this, Luke? If Jake's going to fight, so when Jake was first doing the Showtime pay-per-views, he was around bigger than Conor. I mean, can we be realistic about this, Luke? If Jake's going to fight... So when Jake was first doing the Showtime pay-per-views, he was around 185, right? I have to go back. You know what? Let me look that up. So the cruiserweight limit is 200 and under in boxing.

And I get that he's probably more likely in the low 190s in his prime right now physically for big fights, but he's up at heavyweight right now preparing for Mike Tyson. Yeah, for the rematch, Woodley weighed 189.6, and then Paul was 191.4. I mean, look, dude, he's basically a heavyweight at this point. Look, how are you going to make any more the fights, in theory, against the BMF area, the lightweight, welterweight MMA guys?

I don't think you can anymore, can you? Because you're not going to be able to sell that that fight's competitive. Could you sell it on name value alone in trash talk? Yes. But didn't we just learn something from this Mike Perry experience that was fun on name value in trash talk, but not so fun? Inevitably, there's going to be diminishing returns at the next pay-per-view, at the next pay-per-view. If it's Tyson, you suspend that for name value again.

But sooner or later, he's got to fight a guy on even terms. That's not Condor anymore. Tell me I'm wrong, Luke. I don't think you're wrong, but I think this is a good place to start topic two. Okay, let's start that, Luke. Let's weave that in. Let's weave that in.

Okay, well, Luke, topic two. On a scale of one to ten, looking back on what was another crossover between MMA and boxing and this extended bubble that still has air in it, for better or worse, just how sick are you, Luke, of having to watch MMA fighters box for their biggest paydays? And just a reminder, it's not just when Kamaru Usman won the UFC title and called out Canelo the next day. Trigger Sean O'Malley when he wins his biggest moment,

the UFC world title is then instantly calling for boxers was just on the Diaz Masvidal broadcast, spent the first half hour speaking into the microphone. I can fight these guys. I'd love to fight these guys. I hope I get this chance. It's not going away. That's where the money is,

but it's also at some level where there's where the freedom is and the challenges outside of the MMA space. How sick of you are seeing your MMA heroes sell their souls for that one paycheck in the boxing ring? I have to tell you, I have reached maybe, I'm not quite a breaking point. I don't think that's quite right, but I'm pretty close. I'm pretty close. I'm pretty close to it. Dude, I don't want to have one of these conversations where there's this black hole of gravitational pull for the arguments that somehow pins every industry ill on the UFC. There is a tendency to do that with shows like

this. I don't want to get into that. I'm trying to like dissect what the problem is here. And I actually think it's a little more complicated now. I actually feel like Jake Paul is popular enough now that he is a, a big enough attraction that there's going to be all kinds of MMA fighters who are going to want to fight him in a way that some of them might've been more dismissive of it early on. In other words, he's got a level of celebrity. How many times are you going to be able to access an opponent with this kind of level of celebrity is reach such a height where there's almost no coming back from that, right? It's that it's that big right now, but dude, how are we in this place? How are we in this place? If pay is dude, how are we in this place? How are we in this place if pay is different?

How are we having this conversation today about what's happening here, about our frustration with this, about watching what's going on? Again, Mike Perry has left it. He's done BKFC. He's, again, one of these guys who I think is going to be a candidate no matter what in circumstances, given where we are and the development of Jake Paul's brand and size at the same time when you watch something like this how does it not dawn on or remind you at a bare minimum it's like wait why are we doing this again how does this whole mechanism work the mechanism works because there's a gap in skill that Jake Paul is able to build

over a chair over a class of athletes who are looking for a payday that they otherwise cannot get. Well, why can't they get that? I know it seems so ridiculous to kind of bring everything back. Jake Paul's avarice, his greed here, is clearly a function of what's driving this industry as well, right? He wants to get paid and he wants to do it in this kind of sandbagging way. So we can point the finger at him but he's an opportunist how are we here bc but for the factors i've mentioned i don't understand yeah i mean we're here because the pay disparity at the highest

level between the two sports and and then you can argue well the guys in the one percent of the ufc are getting very well paid they are but you have to sign your life away constantly and you're not available to do stuff like this i mean what if the antitrust lawsuit did go to trial and then suddenly one of the fallouts of that were uh that fighters could have clauses for once a year in their contract to do other stuff like this well that would be an issue and really i just scratched my head at the at how ufc still hasn't woke the fuck up to the idea of forget your clicks on social media of power slap. Can we just fold that away for good and use all of those powers and

resources towards some form of Zufa boxing, which would give your own aging or retired or board names and ability in contract to do exactly what they want, which is to have crossover boxing fights against other people in other areas that can be bumped up to big events where everybody would make a lot of money. But apparently we can't do that. But Luke, I think you're looking at this problem rightfully so from a business logistics standpoint of how are we here?

Why are the top MMA guys just so willing to do this? I want to ask more of where we're actually at in the Jake Paul arc of what we're talking about of how he keeps getting better, where I think there's a solution to this. And it's very easy. It's called even matchmaking, right? Like, let's be honest. Diaz, Masvidal, we had some high, you know, limitations coming in in terms of how much we were going to get excited about that.

What would it look like? What did it look like, though, Luke? A fun-ass competitive fight between two guys who were very motivated, who were reportedly very well-paid, although obviously that's taken a side turn, and who had legitimate reason in their own business plans to give the best of themselves. We got a badass fight that, I think, Luke, tell me if I'm wrong, has made people be more open to this idea. So it's like you get one up in that area in this crossover bubble,

but then the Jake Paul brings you back because it's another lopsided matchup where the star fighter and Jake has way too many predetermined advantages in size and age and experience and all that. Luke, isn't the gap to bridge here to force Jake to fight tougher opponents or to just look at this as there is a window for this? This bubble isn't going to burst because people love to see people fight. And if it's people that they really know, can I tune into regular boxing if I'm not a boxing fan to guys that I don't know?

Or I can tune in to see my favorite streamer or YouTuber or MMA fighter crossed over. It still works if you make interesting matchups. The one thing I will say, was it Jorge Masvidal that promoted that game bread boxing card that ended up having Pettis versus Roy Jones in the main event? I don't love that fight because Roy Jones was old and it's kind of a soft version of what Jake's doing with Tyson. But do you remember the rest of that card? It was evenly matched, current, fading

or former MMA fighters against one another. It was Jeremy Stevens against Jose Aldo and it was like it wasn't high level boxing but no one's going to sit here and think we're going to see that. Luke, when you turn into the tune into the big three, if you do, you know you're not getting NBA level talent at that moment. These are faded ex players.

You're getting an interesting sub version of that, but no one's tuning into that thinking just like you're not going to tune to college basketball and think you're getting NBA level or college football and think you're getting officially NFL level. So no one's going to tune in for that, but they will tune in for competitiveness in action we can give in that and people can still make money i just think that people are still looking at this bubble as it's going to burst soon so how do i keep making the most money and a lot of ways the way to make the most money is to get the biggest names and a lot of times you've got to fudge that difference between

them to try to sell to the public that this is a viable fight, when in reality it's all tailored toward the A-side. In this case, Jake is the biggest A-side of them all. But I think you keep this bubble going alive if you just are a little bit smarter and force some people to take more chances in the matchmaking. I will say this. I kind of want to get into this conversation about Poetan

because that's really where I think an interesting place is headed. I mean, I'll say one thing in defense of Jake here, which is people are like, oh, it's so disingenuous to call out Poetan and then you end up fighting Mike Tyson. But it's not like he's been given the option to fight Poetan. It's not like he's ducking him and then going to Mike Tyson. He's going to what the available options are. The available options are Mike Perry.

The available options are, at least on the non-boxing pure boxing side, which is a whole other conversation. But on the, in this lane, if you close off those places, you can't accuse him of not accepting fights that they're not giving him access to. So that's one part of the matchmaking that I think should be understood

here, but it's actually why I liked the Pereira call out. You see, I actually got to like this one. First of all, yes, there would be an age gap. Okay, fair enough. But we're talking about what doesn't seem like... No, Poiton's still in some form of a fighting prime.

So there's no argument there. Is huge, gigantic, tons of experience with the big gloves, the whole nine yards, obviously in kickboxing, but still with that. Like that is actually a pretty intriguing fight. Could you imagine himself handling well Poiton in there? Yes, you could could which is why i don't think it would be wrong if he did the same thing to john jones if john jones goes out there and beats steepay like we think he should shouldn't jake paul get on the microphone and be like because those are the type of challenges where i think the

combination of size and the experience it's john jones great with his hands no not on the level of everything else in his game but could you imagine john jones getting into really good shape and them doing that for you of course you'd want to see what it looks like right sure we're at that level now for jake so it's kind of got to be poet on and above or not in terms of the size in my opinion unless maybe there's some middleweight banger that that can you know if ddp's body size was a little more popular somebody like that but all of this is a moot point if these guys don't go out of there you don't get out of their ufc deals or if there's not Jake and Dana getting there. Will we ever see Jake and Dana put it together on a negotiation table?

Unless Turkey makes it happen, seems extremely unlikely. By the way, let's play the call-out that we have from Jake Paul here. I'll see rules, Luke. I'm going to go home prepared for that. And Alex Pereira, Alex Pereira, you said you want to box. I'm the king of this. I'm the king of this I'm the king of this come over we can make it happen I want you Alex Pereira

you want the UFC light heavyweight champion Alex Pereira indeed indeed I just beat a BKFC champion I beat multiple UFC champions and he said he wants to box so Alex Pereira after Mike Tyson let's make it happen I gotta tell you of all the available fights, Perry, Tyson, or Poetan,

Poetan is like obviously the one you would want. Okay, here's what I'm going to say. Quite obviously. I just kind of mentioned like, hey, will Jake and Dana ever get together? But I think Jake's a different scenario compared to others because he's been very villainized against Dana. He's purposely going after Dana. But didn't Dana just support Jorge in fighting Nate, right? They seem

to make a cut from it. Do you think that there's a soft way that UFC can get involved without needing to be the co-promoter? Maybe they would want to if it was Jake versus Poiton with the UFC belt over shoulder in boxing. Maybe UFC should wake up to the idea that if they actually got in line and co-promoted that, they could make a lot of money or they could just release their guys and still get a cut from it. But Luke, will it ever be worth it for UFC to allow that wiggle room for their fighters? No.

Right. So is this a moot point until somebody, I don't, I'm not, I can't control what UFC does or doesn't do. I'm simply saying from the consumer perspective, we don't have to honor what tradecraft they feel like is in their interest to dominate market position that has nothing to fucking do with

anything about why you watch sports that's their concern that's not mine for there's nothing stopping them from making this fight or any other one i don't have you are i'm gonna say it one more time you are under no obligation to honor what their bet corporate best practices are that for interests that have nothing and in certain cases are in direct contravention to your interest please miss me with that the biggest ufc fighters seem to be more excited about fights elsewhere than within their own organization and i think it would take the fans being on that level too for any change to be made poet on rightan. I'm piggybacking. Poetan did a, I won't say he responded,

but he had a quick FaceTime call. While Jake was in the ring. Right. We have video of it. Let's play it. Hey, let's run it. Let's go. Let's go, my boy.

Will Dana let you out? Will Dana let you out? Will Dana let you out? Yes. We'll talk to him. We'll talk to him. Tell Dana. Dan. Hey. Dude, of all the call-outs, that's the only one I was like, okay, all right. I'm not saying I want him to win or even fight or whatever.

It's not make or break this fight. But that, of anything he's doing, that's the most interesting part. Wow. Here's where I need to see UFC fighters and UFC managers realizing their potential value, knowing, yes, we are locked into these long-term deals in order to keep fighting for titles and making big paydays. UFC is going to keep extending your contract. You're going to be stuck with them,

but you got to go. And I hope they are, but you never know. You got to go to the table, knock on Hunter and Dana's door, right? Look, if you're team Poiton and say,

look, here you go, Dana, you got two options. Either give us the winner of John Jones and steep pay, or if John Jones is going to retire, give us Aspinall for the heavyweight title and put it in a stadium. Let me try to become the first three division champion in UFC history, Or if Jon Jones is going to retire, give us Aspinall for the heavyweight title and put it in the stadium.

Let me try to become the first three-division champion in UFC history. Or figure out a way to get out of my way so that I can go make this crazy payday against Jake Paul in a fight that everybody would have to see. And in fact, maybe I don't fight again until you make that decision. What happens next? Because it's never going to see change unless somebody with power is willing to do to do that john jones we thought might have been coming close to do that when he said i want wilder money he was publicly going against the ufc and what did he do next he sat out three years so luke what would happen i mean obviously if all the fighters that were champions joined together and did this kind of coup maybe change could happen but no one's gonna that's not gonna happen what if should potan's team be on the phone pushing back?

No, they have other business at hand. I'm not trying to rally for a particular fight. I'm simply trying to point out, if this is at all going to be an interesting thing, the Jake Paul experience, it has to be involved with players of a level now that makes sense for this whole equation to work. Okay, those players got to free themselves up.

Yeah, fair enough. So if nothing stopping them is just Dana's preference, shouldn't they be pushing on that door every day, every week, every month? Because if you become a pariah to them, I mean, they can freeze you, but if you're the champion, I mean, no one wants to become Randy Couture. No one wants to have Randy Couture not show up on their podcast every week. We'll talk about this later. Poetan is arguably in some of the biggest fights you can make in MMA.

He doesn't have the strongest incentive at this place. My only point is not to advocate for the UFC. Like, go make this fight. Of course, they could. I mean, it's a stupid fight in reality. Of course. But what I'm just trying to point out is look at the circumstances under which the Jake Paul experience works and contrast that with the one that we got on Saturday

and tell me you don't notice a gigantic difference and it's not just star power either is there's so much more to making that work that's my only point I'm with you on that we're not we're not too far away I wouldn't say we're in lock jaw but we're lockstep you know what I mean it feels a little uncomfortable it does uh Luke I believe that um you know when we're talking about great partnerships, we've got something to say right now. Yes, why don't you tell them? Yeah, hold on.

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Indeed. Indeed. All right, BC. Let's keep this shit moving. With that in mind, BC, let's talk about UFC here a little bit. We do have something to get to. It was the, well, it wasn't like, these cards, people call them bad or worse. It was just least.

It was just the least UFC card. Yeah, why are we calling in dc and bruce buffer to do a you know what fight night apex i'll tell you what about buffer i give him credit he gives you the same effort basically no matter what i mean i'm not gonna say this was like on par with the very best calls he's ever had but buffer he works he goes in there he efforts through he gives you what he's got i appreciate that or maybe he had to do it because joe martinez was doing the jake paul be that too, but he did the job. Let's talk about

UFC Vegas 94 takeaways though. The main event, Virna Janjiroba taking on Amanda Lemos. She subs her out with an armbar in the second round. Some great scrambles along the way. BC, the first question I would ask you is, the broadcast kind of hinted at it, given her win streak, given her position. Frankly, given who

else, Zhong Wai Li hasn't even just beaten or fought yet. Is she the now new contender in this division? She's a new contender, but I do think that that's a little bit of a negative, though. Not a negative against Jan Jiroba. Congratulations, four straight wins. And yes, to be fair, there were some quality names in that,

and Amanda Lemos, a former title challenger, was she a title challenger, or did I just make that up? I have to double check. No, maybe she was. She fought Whaley. She fought Whaley. I can never remember half of these. I just think that this is a reality. So my original knee jerk to that is Janji Roba's close, seriously,

just based on what she's accrued, which is that four-fight win streak. But this is Tatiana Suarez's potential division and title, provided she can stay healthy to be able to get this chance against Whaley. But Luke, the fact that janji roba is this close might be a little bit of an indictment finally on the true lack of depth finally at 115 we've never talked about that before because it's never happened they launched at the end of 2014 by the first ufc card i was ever in person for was that esparza versus rose tough finale sorry to hear that oh actually that one wasn't bad i didn't hate that card that one wasn't bad uh it's always been great it's always been the best of women's mma obviously the ronda sensation at 135 did brew a time where there was a lot of talent there from

misha to amanda nunes to so many others valentina uh gdr even sliding in there but 115 is not in a great place right now luke and i just think as much as i don't want to disrespect these two women why are they in the main event they're in the main event because they're the really the only highly ranked fighters on the card the fight itself was good you cannot say the fight was bad where the ufc is market wise how are you rolling this out as a main event it's not just the lack of quality control at the top. And I know that we're going to keep challenging the idea of, is this the worst on paper fight night apex main event we've ever seen when we get Sergey Spivak versus Archimede Typer.

Tell me about the first one. What's your favorite memory from the first one? Here's my question here. I got two questions. But the first one is, are they booking this with a straight face? Like there's obviously, they're under some financial restraint

to keep this as cheap as possible, which is why we're still seeing fight night cards at the apex. But that doesn't always have to be a downer if you match it right, right? You know what I mean? It doesn't always have to be the worst thing ever. But this is unacceptable, this main event,

the next one, the couple before. I mean, we can give you a list of the Fight Night main events this year. Are they doing it with a straight face under like, okay, we know we're hamstrung, even though we're making money hand over fist. Maybe they're putting a lot away for the potential antitrust lawsuit, maybe. Or maybe they're just in a spot where they are trying to grind every cent out of it, which is why it costs thousands now to even go to a pay-per-view. But are they booking this with a straight face,

in your opinion? Are they going, man, I hope we don't get too much flack for this? Or do you think they were actually looking in the mirror going, based on everything we've got, yeah, Janjiropa versus Limos is a hell of a main event, and that should bring in the people to tune in and buy the tickets.

And then a day later, do they go, not bad, buddy, Spivak, Tybura too. Hey, we'll find out what happens this time like they can't be that like i i wonder that i'm gonna be honest i wonder that about our friends laura sanko you know who we respect a lot the other people on the broadcast crew do they look at the fight card sheet and go oh man it's gonna be a rough one no they like they like the work i mean i i would too if i was in their spot and there's and it's not that that even this card it's not that even this card, it's not void of things to talk about or good fighters,

but I got problems with the packaging, which I'll get into a second, but I do want you to answer my question. Seriously, when it's Mick Maynard and Sean Shelby and Hunter Campbell and Dana White, and they're doing this, and they need somebody to sign off, maybe it's Dana,

I don't know who ultimately signs off that this is an acceptable card. Go with it. And by the way, this card lost Brad Tavares in the co-main event, which would have been an interesting fight too, so it kept getting worse. what do you think the consensus is that we did good given our resources or what's expected because i have no expectations anymore

for a fight night card neither should you you won't watch it live because you don't need to watch it live so what is what are they saying when they book this that hope we don't get away with it you tell me uh yeah i don't think this is a very complicated one there bc it's a firm that has no competition okay so are they literally they have they have the ability to construct a product to meet a financial model that is significant which they've done without completely altering what they've done you know that's still they're still obviously a great degree of what they've always done they just changed and added a lot, but they have no real competition and they have a financially sort of constructed content model.

This is, this is feature, not a bug. This is a feature. So they think they did. I'm asking you, do they think they did well given the current standards of what, of what they have available budget wise and fighter wise,

they think they did well on this card. I just feel like one, they have, one, they operate with some business impunity, but I would say that if you're trying to put yourself in their shoes, how are they looking at it? I think that they look at it more operationally, look at the scale of what we're able to do week to week, event to event. We do a pay-per-view a month, right? They still obviously do those.

Some of those, the year started out great, great pay-per-views, right? So there was all of that as well. They feel like, I think, no one can do the uf no one can do the mma machine like the way the ufc does it yes this one is not as great as that one but that's not what you should focus on so they just think they're selling the brand they're selling the brand name it is what it is these are the best rank fighters we had so part two of what i was going to say and i want to get your opinion on this i feel like i can help them here. Because whether it's selling tickets or trying to sell your buddies to watch it with you who are MMA fans, if I tell you, hey, Luke,

come over to my house on Saturday. There's a 36-year-old and a 37-year-old Brazilian who you've probably never heard of that are going to go against each other in, like, the divisions are so weak this might be a future title contender fight. And then I tell you the names, you're like, uh, I think I got other plans, BC. Or, hey, maybe I won't go buy that ticket and go see it in person.

But given what they have on this roster on this fight night, which wasn't awful, what if you repackaged it like this? What if instead of Lemos versus Janjiroba as a main event, we went, hey, Doohu Choi, one of the greatest action fighters in UFC history, who, yes, has fought lately, not often, and has lost, and has been in and out of the sport, but is in the UFC Hall of Fame for one of the greatest fights of all time

he's back against Bill Algeo in a very interesting fight in our main event to find out if the Hall of Famer and action hero can continue his run as the Korean Superboy and in our co-main event rising women's 125er Miranda Maverick who seems to have put it together and is this all-American fighter

is going to step up to another level with this victory potential here. And also featuring two strawweight contenders, Janjiro versus Lemos. I know that it's a moot point because it doesn't matter. They're selling another fight night card with the UFC brand, and that's just what it is. That's the end of the conversation. And I know they're not spending a lot of money

to try to promote this card anyway. But wouldn't that be a better package to what we might actually need to see? Or even putting Miranda Maverick in the main event, which is mind-boggling to even say, because she's not quite there yet, but I'd rather see her in a five-round fight against a decent fighter to figure out where she is

rather than burying her on the undercard and rolling out what just feels a lot like meaningless fight after meaningless fight. Yeah, I mean, here's what I would say. Once you realize that, like, there is this kind of belief in the industry that the only people who have ever been capable of successfully promoting MMA is the UFC, like, basically everyone else tried and simply wasn't good enough. It was a complete contest, and only one person or one

entity won and of course there's no denying they are very good at what they do that's really not a per issue the point i would like to make is like you know um in the 1940s two nations at the same time basically figured out how to do play with atoms to do gigantic you know the most difficult things imaginable. And they happen concurrently at the same time on opposite ends of the earth. And yet people think that there's only one company who could ever successfully promote MMA. If you have that kind of a belief, BC, why do they need to repackage their product to appeal to the sensibilities you're talking about they're

they're playing with house money here just in terms of the way in which people conceive of them in the industry i get you you're still hitting me with these macro responses long island luke am i am i an old whining bitch or am i on to something here i think you're on to something you're also a bitch i mean there's definitely i mean you you do a podcast every week the main card mile high minute when which you know you and the cast of x mma in mk cast offs who we love show up and people are getting high it's great so you have to watch these fights i mean does it matter to you are you part of that machine who says look dude i don't give a fuck i love getting high on saturdays and watching fights and the ufc brand still matters to me so that's why i'm here i I got to be honest. I am that person.

I I'm part of the machine. I'll watch any MMA card. Okay. Then I'll, then I'm just a bitch who has a microphone in front of me. You are being a hoe. I mean, the fight was good that week.

We just talk about that for a second. The fight was, I mean, it wasn't amazing or anything, but it was, I will say that like the only thing about the fight that was not that great is the scrambles were great. Obviously,

you know, there was a reversals of position and then the knee bar, the work from the back was good i'm not gonna be a hater so no that part was great i mean there was certainly some value there the only thing is like unless zhong wai li has really sort of collapsed and we don't know that yet it's hard to see exactly genji robo winning which i'm not saying possible but it's it doesn't it's not super convincing the win streak is nice. She's quite skillful, but the physical beast and the scrambling ability of Zhang Weili just kind of makes

you feel like, well, unless that's really dropped off, it's not going to be there yet. But I will say it's nice to have the contender continue to move here. It's just it feels like a women's MMA right now. Who is grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck

could be Suarez but I kind of need more updates from the UFC are we making is she healthy this just felt like she's compiled her way to a nice record to get a potentially deserved option here and there's a chance she could win it just all feels a little ordinary I guess is the way to put that

which is again why my argument of it never should have been a main event it's a fine fight to determine placement in here. Ben Fulks has said it best. There's fights that are main events, and then there's cards where just one fight goes last, and that's kind of what you got. That is. That's why, like, to me, if you said,

BC, what did you take away from this fight card, or what was the biggest story? Dude, do who a choice. Can we talk about that, Luke? So the Korean Superboy comes back. Now, he may have had a comeback fight in what? Had a draw or no contest? Yeah, let me pull that up. He had a draw with Kyle Nelson last fight and what had a draw or no contest yeah let me

pull they had a draw with kyle nelson draw with kyle nelson and that was a after a a long gap away after losing three straight fights and you know the wars that were within that look he takes a freaking punch like nobody else which obviously can lead earlier in his career of what led him to get away from the sport he can take a beat down and still come back. Take him. Look, do you, you saw when he ate that spinning back elbow from bill LGO, like it was nothing. Yes. This guy still has a sick chin, but that's not the story.

And neither completely is him getting the win. To me, the story was he went back to the drawing board and he brought in his longtime mentor, the Korean zombie Chan Sung Jung, who's now his head coach. And it was, you know, rightfully smiling like the proud dad. I mean, he kind of looked like Glover in this great relationship with Poetan in that

regard. To me, it was that he took that much time away and has figured out not how to be less exciting, but how to potentially have an enduring career, which is go to the areas where he never did have a big impact on the ground and create a new potential lane for him. And I'm not saying that this win suddenly makes him ready for a title shot or anything, but I think there's

health to his career again. Considering how exciting he is all the time, and he's very marketable, you know, potentially too, if he can really put it together. Look, it was great to see somebody who had kind of written off and said, okay, he was like a Bo Jackson, not to that level, but

just exploded and was great in this moment of this fun action fighter with bright potential and then he was gone. He's back again and he might be back in a big way. I was really happy to see it. I completely agree. I thought the story here was we've been talking about certain fighters having wild situations. Johnny Walker, Yuri Prochocka, wild sort of demeanors.

And how do you change them without changing too much of who they are, right? You can either go super defensive and then they're not really themselves anymore, or you don't make much of a change at all. And then you're not really fixing any kind of a problem. What was interesting here about Duho Choi to me was that he still was slugging it out at times. You saw that you saw him rely on his chin a little bit. But BC, he had defense this time. Now, it wasn't sophisticated defense. He wasn't doing boots and his stuff.

But getting back to the Mike Perry defensive question against Jake Paul, he was doing this, and that didn't keep him safe all the time, but it gave him a little bit more patience. It gave him a little bit more time. It gave him a little bit more longevity in the fight. Not everything was tooth or nail, feast or famine. It was a better performance in that way. Those two left hooks that ultimately closed the show.

I hope Bill Algeo is okay. I don't know. We'll see. Those were some big time. But I completely agree. He didn't change completely who he is. He still will brawl time to time. He still will slug it out.

He's still exciting. But just a little bit of defense. Oh, my God. It completely, well, completely, but visibly, BC, it visibly improves his chances and how much he can contribute to a fight beyond just, you know, craziness all the time. I have breaking news in boxing that you're looking for. Hey, we got the news alert.

Oh, here we go uh michael benson who on twitter gets all the news compiled luke and aggregates it he is an aggregator is sharing a tweet from wba president gilberto mendoza now a reminder luke the four sanctioning bodies the major ones that we deal with in boxing they all suck but some have worse reputations i'd say the wba is the worst because they make the most amount of bastardized titles for no reason to just keep cashing money. Gilberto Mendoza on social media said that after Jake Paul beat Mike Perry and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. lent to that,

avoided gassing out enough to lose a close fight to Uriah Hall. I give Uriah Hall credit, by the way. He didn't fight bad. He actually made me want to see him again if he has to. Gilberto says, here's the tweet. I am not against a Jake Paul versus Chavez Jr. for a championship. Get the fuck out of here.

Get out. Like, you know, like, I mean, I look, I hate this side of boxing. Let's talk. Let's say this very, very explicitly of any entity you could point to. Like who's really the worst entity in boxing. Is it the promoters? Is it the managers?

Is it the fighters themselves? Is it somebody else? Is it PR? Is it the sanctioning bodies? Is it the television networks? Let's be explicit. It's the sanctioning bodies they are the worst operators in the industry and for a very specific reason they're the only ones the only ones whose entire existence is premised on doing sport things for sport reasons.

Orderliness, playing by the book, making sure you're taking care of the sport for just, for no other reason, not size of the sport, but the integrity of it. And they absolutely abuse that responsibility. Yet collectively, we all see through them, but just accept it as it is that these are the four sanctioning bodies that matter and put out the four recognized titles, even though they're constantly pulling bullshit. IBF and WBO, not so much.

They tend to follow their own rules. You can certainly find loopholes in there and have all four sanctioning bodies been linked with either the proven fact or the suspicion of promoters constantly paying them to get their fighters ranked. Yes, that's why some fighters are ranked only in one organization and none of the others. And that's why whenever there's a mandatory title, it tends to come against a guy you've never heard of from some random country who hasn't fought anybody. So that's already the baseline corruption that we sort of all deal with in

there. But then you add into what the WBA does with having not just a champion in every division, sometimes three to four when you consider the regular champion, but no, not the super champion. But then we have an interim champion for no reason because nobody's hurt. But then we also are going to do a vacant interim fourth regular transparent championship.

And then you got the WBC who doesn't make anybody. They create super champions so that their stars don't have to do mandatories. How the fuck that the WBC can allow Canelo right now, by the way, in the, in other areas, WBC trying to force Williams to pay it and Shakur Stevenson to fight

for the title. But yet in super middleweight, it's not Canelo's the super champions of do what we want. We don't have to make him fight Benavidez at all. Why is that happening? Luke? Very simple answer. You are grumpy today.

Simple answer. I'm standing on my bidness, okay? It's because when Canelo fights, he makes more money than the other champions and the WBA, just like all the sanctioning buyers, WBC in this case, gets their 10% or whatever it is. That's why at times we saw Floyd not defend

certain titles and go, you know what? I'm not going to pay you the $250,000 that you would get for this. I just won't defend it, this fight. This is bullshit, Luke. The one thing I hope, and I don't know for real. I know that Saudi's got some tricks up their sleeves and they're going to continue to make this push. I don't know if Turkey El-Sheikh can take over boxing. I don't know if it's going to happen.

I don't know if the players that would fight against him. Yeah, all of that. But if there's some element in whatever he's going to do that silences the greed of the sanctioning bodies under the auspices that, hey, you don't have to be dirtbag greedy anymore because we're all going to make a lot of money moving forward now that we're going to bring some level of organization and the best are going to fight the best. Whether it works or not, I don't know.

But I hope that that's the hope. Because remember that speech? Don't forget that speech Turkey gave on Ariel's show when he said, wouldn't that be a shame, IBF, if me and all my friends who happen to be all the famous fighters in this sport decide to not fight for your title anymore i just hope luke i don't know if i want religious monarchies bullying yeah i mean look it's like choosing in elections of the who's the worst one here that i don't i don't know i don't know if that this is in no any way a superior yeah but that's bullshit man i hate boxing sometimes i don't want to take away from this great fight in Icard.

Are there any other fighters that you want to spotlight here from the Apex? There were some other decent performances. To me, the big winners, Viener Jandruova and Amanda Lemos putting on a very good scrap. And then, to me, Duho Choi. Again, he is a flawed fighter, but he's an exciting fighter and an improved one. That should be the storyline. Miranda Maverick's coming on now. It was a fine fight it was not very

action packed it was a lot of positional ground battles it was a good performance from Maverick it was a good performance it was a good performance but it didn't she beat the witch that was the nickname? yeah Dionne Barbarossa versus the witch? the witch yes alright it was fine

that's what it was it was a fight card fights happened oh I will say this I turned it on and it was fine. That's what it was. It was a fight card. It happened. Fights happened. Oh, I will say this. I turned it on and, uh, it was the Rob, Rob,

the, the, the gentleman's name, Rob odds and all, I forget how to pronounce it. His fight was going on and he had done like small joint manipulation and grabbed the fence. And Herb Dean had given him like,

I'm not even joking. Maybe 85,000 warnings. I don't, I wasn't keeping track. It felt like that. Grab him by the dick. And then just being like, here's a hard warning. I'm not even joking, maybe 85,000 warnings. I wasn't keeping track. It felt like that. Grab him by the dick. And then just being like, here's a hard warning. I'm like, guys, grabbing the fence, you get,

I don't care what the rules say, grabbing the fence, eye poking your opponent, kicking them in the balls is 100% legal. It is absolutely legal. The question is how many you get before it impacts you. But you can get three of those things. I asked this question before. Shouldn't you flirt with the idea of taking away a point right away just so you begin to set a tone of what's acceptable and what's not so that there's a risk involved in purposefully

cheating? Yes. Hey, let me- I'll fix everything today, Luke. Let me call an audible. Let me pitch you question four. Okay. May I do that?

Yeah. All right. Let's do that. You have producer's credit, right? That's right. Alright, let's do that. You have producer's credit, right? Friday's show are not that great, but there's only one guy making those possible. Do you know what your producer's credit is worth in this era of modern day MK? Nothing.

Zip. Alright, here we go. BC, a little bit of sad news in boxing. I don't really know if there's blame is the right word. We'll talk about it. But Vasily Lomachenko, it turns out, is not interested in fighting Tank Davis. But despite reports that the negotiations were going smoothly, it was a fight that was going to happen potentially in October. It has gone up in smoke after his manager had revealed he just wants to take the rest of the year off.

So, BC, given the choice, what is the best available fight that Tank Davis can have? Matchmake. What is it? I've got three that we have a tweet to throw to because I think it's related to what I want to let me double check we go ahead it's up there this is from coach Kenny Ellis who is the assistant trainer of Tank Davis and by the way tweets a lot of sure puts a lot of truth on social media it says if Lomachenko can't get motivated by getting a chance at being the face of boxing his team needs to hang his gloves to

where he can never reach them again he's done I. I want to say, Luke, that I don't think we actually know yet the full motive of Lomachenko. I believe that he didn't want to fight right now. And that's the point, that he felt he decided that he needed some time off. There has been some rumblings of people saying, is this a contractual move by him or a negotiation move by him? Maybe he wasn't getting the offer that he felt he deserved. So he's basically saying, we'll just walk away. It could be that look at very well. Could be that.

Okay. But you asked me what should be next for tank. Look, if you can't get Loma right now, which I think escalation wise was the right fight for tank, not just big commercially, but critically, right.

To continue that path deeper down the pound for pound rankings. What's another fight that can give you exactly that. Shakur Stevenson, Shakur Stevensonson and here's the deal shakur is a free agent so could it come through him signing a multi-fight deal with pbc it could be but luke what if he re-signed with top rank i wonder if you can make it right now where we are in these boxing boxing streets can you make a crossover fight between the two of them because you can say oh shakur's boring and he just went through hell on Twitter, and he did,

but he started a lot of those fires. I think his star actually got a little bit bigger from this through all the negativity, because you can argue there's no such thing as bad press. I think this is the fight right now, because I think they're close enough in weight right now, too. Let me just say one fight I don't want to see. I don't want to see Tank i don't want to see tank

versus cambosis no dude that should not even be in the conversation i'm not saying that it is i'm just declaring like of all the available fights okay i don't have any interest in that one beats valenzuela so i was gonna say let me give you my list of what i think the best available fights are for tank davis so obviously he's coming off the frank martin win a few directions you could go shakur stevenson seems like a no-brainer, best one available. Devin Haney's sitting out. Because it would make a statement of people who were saying that you're not fighting guys who can actually potentially beat you.

Like top, top guys, right? So there's that. I don't think it'll happen, but I would love a risky 140 fight with Teofimo Lopez. I think it's a fight you could absolutely do. I don't think it's happening. Okay, fair enough. You could do Isak Cruz rematch. That was a decision the first time, and Isak Cruz walked him down the entire time. He got outboxed, but that was a difficult fight for Tank.

And he battered Roley. And he battered the shit out of Roley Ramirez. At 140, by the way. That's another one you could go. I don't know how likely these are. You could go the Dennis Barinczyk route. I don't think that that was necessarily something anyone would want. The Keyshawn Davis.

Keyshawn Davis one is a little bit interesting to me. Doesn't it feel too early in terms of both where Keyshawn's star could eventually be? It is absolutely too early, but if you look at the rankings, Keyshawn Davis is ahead in most places of Frank Martin. It would almost be quite literally a rankings escalation, if you actually think about it that way. Again, that would not be my number one preference, but I think it's a direction you could go.

The argument against me in saying Shakur you could easily say is you could push the argument of has Shakur damaged his brand more than helped it with everything that's going on. And you could say, well, look, if with the danger of what Shakur brings, why would you risk that when you could fight these other guys? I mean, look, if Pitbull Cruz beats Valenzuela, his stars rising very quick in terms of Mexico adopting him and following him and putting money behind him. That maybe, you know, Pitbull is a bigger commercial fight. But I think that it's time for Tank right now to take one of these challenges. And look, a lot of people think he's going to blow away Shakur, and Tank says that himself.

So if that's the case, then make the fight, because what you were going to get most from the Lomachenko fight was that critical viability, even with Lomachenko being old and even with people saying this fight should happen three years ago, which I've seen a lot of boxing Twitter too. Look, Lomachenko is still to some element that dude, and he would still solve a certain question that we need to see. And imagine if he stopped him, by the way, that'd be wild.

But Luke, to me, Shakur is that because I wonder if this actually is the best time to fight Shakur if you're tank. Because I still think Shakur hasn't figured out how to put his greatness together to be entertaining and also elevate himself I think the reason why I'm going to lean on picking him and the reason why I support him in a lot of these arguments is I think he's the real deal because I think when the rubber meets the road and it's fight night he's not going to care about entertaining you, but he's going to get that W. Floyd had that in him too, right? And it's a special act. But I think eventually Shakur is going to figure out

how to lead that to more offense. And even in tough challenges, chase people down and do that. I think right now, if you're Tank, it might be the perfect time. And I hope he does that, Luke. I think it's... Do you think he does that. Luke, I think, I think it's, would you, do you think that fight sells? Uh,

yeah, I think it's also a shit ton because you get those people. Stevenson has built up a, a lot of resentment with people. He has his own resentment. I mean, he's out there beefing with cam and mace. Uh,

you know, there's the, he's having these like large beefs that are just ongoing. That alone has generated a ton of attention. What if we do Floyd in his, in his corner, ostensibly like not as his lead trainer, but as his,

Hey tank, fuck you. I got my guy now. What about that? But that Luke. Yup. There's something to that as well. Absolutely.

I, I, I, the Shakur fight is the runaway easy choice, but the other ones that I mentioned would be great. But if they come up to me with tank versus Cambosis, your boy is going to be better to me. That would be on par with something like Canelo Berlanga,

like just, just dead on arrival. It's going and was a couple of months ago. There's some, there's a little quiet now. No, August 3rd will be a good day, but I hope,

I mean, is that selling? I hope, I don't know. We were, we were almost going to talk to Andrew Ruiz today. That would have been fun. Yeah.

He bailed on us. We were almost going to talk to Randy Couture. You were have been fun. Yeah, he bailed on us. We were almost going to talk to Randy Couture. You were going to ask him what goes on his glizzy that he got caught eating on the streets. I was going to ask him a lot of food-related questions, but I was worried about potential fat shaming. No, because if you're going to talk to Andy Ruiz, and by the way, he doesn't do a lot of interviews, you're going to have to bring up the fallout of him winning the title and then getting fat and losing it and kind of being inconsistent the last few years. And remember when his girl, like, outed him on social media?

That was impressive. Remember when he beat Anthony Joshua and then he was eating sushi off naked models? Yes. And do you remember when they did that? His own team did, like, a pre-fight documentary for him ahead of the Joshua fight. But, like, everywhere they went was pizza places

and they were just gorging food. I mean, they're just going, how's housing down barbecue pizza? I mean, you luke i mean there's i gotta tell you is it just me australian rules luke or is bc in a mood today sitting in row eight yeah you australian takes one to no one that's that's that's aussie rules football over there that's a different that's a different game wow all right um all right you want to point number five you want to you know what why don't we skip point five because we'll do a ufc 304 preview okay so we will because

i know you say bc stop listening to hairs they were people were mad we didn't um show up on friday but we didn't tell them that's why they were mad well i it was a late scratch we were like yeah i don't think there was just nothing really to say and i also did we owe them a tweet yes or no did we owe them a tweet yeah yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry about the other right we're in a little bit of disarray as you know but we are angling i mean i haven't slept in days so it can be a little i mean we're angling in the right direction still we're angling it's we're pointing that way, right? There's a little something to that, I guess.

I don't know. By the way, the news just broke that Andre Ward has signed with All The Smoke Productions. News. I didn't know this. Chief Content Officer. Chief Content Officer. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Okay. Is he going to fire us? Probably. I've always loved Andre. No, no. We love Andre. We like him a lot more now. Don't fire us. Wait, did he just become our boss? Is that what you're us? Probably. I've always loved Andre. No, no, we love Andre. We like him a lot more now. Don't fire us. Wait, did he just become our boss?

Is that what you're saying? He might have. All right, Andre, first point of interest, we got to get this Friday show going every week, all right? So let's go, buddy. Let's get on it, okay? Too sweet. Yeah.

Congrats to Andre Warren. Yes. Congrats to him. I hope that one day Jake Vaughn Amsterdam gets hired, too. That'd be great. That would be special. That guy is the creative heart and soul of what we do here and you know he's weirder than me but he does contain his weirdness enough to where you're never nervous unless he's in your hotel room and he will not leave you know that that is true he was he will cling to you

that is absolutely it's like a wholesome cling he's not like reaching for anything right uh i don't i don't let him in my room more than 30 seconds at a time. Yeah, but sometimes he'll be like, yo, I got to test that out. I got to be up in your room. And then, like, suddenly three hours later, you're like, Jake, like, dude, I've got to look. You know, if I was Luke, I'd be like, Jake, I got a lot of masturbating to do here. Can we get you out of here? So, wow.

Hey, Rob. So, okay, so we're going to skip.5. We're going to do a full UFC 304 preview. We're going to do it the right way later this week. I want to tell you something before we hit those DMs. We're going to get some shit today. You're horny? But I'm a little...

Yeah, remember the end of Billy Madison? Did you see the shooter, Donald Trump's shooter, died horny? I saw that. The last thing he looked up was porn. He went out doing what he loved. He really was like a blaze of glory, I guess. So I put together the row eight shit.

I mean, I'm sorry. I put together the have you seen this shit while in a fetal position in row eight. And I will just say that, like, you know, you send me clips when you're in that state. And normally I'm just like, oh, that's so lame. Sometimes what you think is funny when you're in row eight, no one else does. So I'm gambling today. I'm leaning in a certain direction with some of these bits.

I don't know if it's going to work. I send you funny memes. You're out of your mind. What's one that I sent you that wasn't funny? We just have differing, you know, we're close in a lot of comedic categories. You know, we like flatulence. We like, you know, I like people getting in the nuts

more than anything in the world. I'm on a little 9-11 kick. Yeah, I got to tell you, Aussie Rules Luke, I didn't know 9-11 humor. I didn't know it was a thing, actually. It wasn't industry until I met Brian Campbell. Oh, come on. You just painted me publicly as somebody I'm not, okay?

Thank you very much. With that said, is there a statute of limitations on when you can start laughing at things? Look, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the word would be on that. All right, with that in mind, so let's state it for the record. 304 preview coming at the end of this week or close to it. We may have to do it on Thursday, depending.

Whatever. But either way, either way, we'll get one of those for you guys. It's going to be great. Full Friday show. All right? Yeah. Okay. BC, with that in mind, it's time for when the donks get to ask us questions.

It's time for DMs from donks. Okay. All right. What are we doing? I mean. That'll be the next thing. That'll be the next thing that'll be the next thing one thing at a time lou jesus christ i will say the horn and the breaking news reggie andre awards first day on the job he's like point of interest for the day fix the gross uh dm horn where it

sounds like the guy yeah okay donkey ejaculate all right dms from dogs here we go from sasquatch toys bc but we never really got to this what is next for mike perry connor maybe in bkfc i doubt connor fights him under any circumstance at this point i mean that see that this is the problem that's the fight to make now for that for bkfc and that storyline of of they already went face to face on a bkfc ring it led to connor becoming part owner of the company i do question luke whether that was received well behind the scenes from dave feldman and company when Conor's just going rogue and like, you're fired. But it kind of

does play to the idea of that's the next fight to make. But Conor is claiming publicly that he has two fights left on his UFC deal and that as soon as that's done, he's like, I've seen him talk trash at certain other combat athletes and be like, well, I've got two fights left and then I'm available. Do you feel like

this is a Mike Perry question, but this is also a Con'm available. Do you feel like this is a Mike Perry question, but this is also a Conor question. Do you feel like the UFC is pushing back the goalposts when they get the chance to extend him so he doesn't do that? I mean, the Conor argument to that is Conor just pulled out of the fight that they were trying to force him to take when he was injured. But it has been a long-ass time here before he's ever going to come back. For him to think, oh, I've just got two more fights

and I'm going to get through it, maybe it's not the company pushing back either way. He's not, I mean, I can't see him doing that in a clean period of time. It's not like he's going to take two fights in the next five months. So I feel bad because I think that is the fight to make for Mike Perry right now. And it makes sense. Conor's in house, but you can't, you just can't make that right now. Jake Paul one was a good opportunity for him because remember he had basically just beaten Tiago Alves inside of a round round they don't really have anything for him as an obvious guy to fight that the fans know not that not that there's no uh cue necessarily but that the fans know and so that's why the jake paul fight was like kind of fortuitous you're like

oh right okay all the name value but then he had a fairly you know he really needs it was not a great strong really needs an aging mma fighter with name value who he can get into a trash talk war with. But I do have to ask you, what does this mean for his future with this dirty boxing promotion? Do you think BKFC liked that where he's basically like, hey, guys. They must have known. They could not have been. Okay, they must have known. And at some level, they probably had to agree or whatever.

But like, that's not a bad look when the face of your promotion that you just let go do another thing, which I think was a smart move. He entered as the BKFC champion. I just, unfortunately, I don't think Mike raised his stock with his performance beyond just his toughness level. But they can't be excited about, he's just did his biggest fight outside of the organization with them, and now he's going to come back and launch essentially a rival.

Look, it's a rival. It is a rival. It's in the same space. It might be more a feeder league, but yes, it certainly is. There's an overlap for sure. I mean, I don't see it being successful, but if you had to guess or could name one, what's a good BKFC opponent for him? Austin Trout?

No. There was somebody else who was either a double champ or just was double champ, but now is a single champ and lost one of them. Again, this is what I'm saying. Like, I don't even, I don't know who that would even be. So this is kind of where they're at. Does he ever get a bigger fight

than what he had on Saturday? Possible. Possible. I mean, he's still, yeah, I, probably not anytime soon, but it's possible. Do you think Conor fights out his UFC deal?

Yes. Then this isn't impossible in a year and a half. Unlikely is my view. Okay. All right. Question number two. I don't know who they're talking about here.

They're talking about Curtis Blades. Are people sleeping on Curtis Blades' chances for this fight? Obviously, the UFC 304 co-main event, the interim heavyweight title on the line. Well, that's a good question. So let's take. Well, in general, yes. In general, yes. They're sleeping on it because we all want Aspinall to fight Jones.

We don't want these interim semifinal fights and sort of this tournament. Do you want the odds? And sort of this tournament that will probably never come to fruition. I'd say people are sleeping on him a little bit. Yeah. He is an underdog, according to our friends at DraftKings, a plus 295. Tom Aspinall, a minus 375, if my eyesight is correct. Yeah, I think they are sleeping on him.

But to be very fair in a negative slant against Curtis Blades, in the biggest moment when it's time to climb that final hill, he's had some issues. So it's hard until you see it. The Overeem win was strong, and I will also say the fact that that Volkov win is aging a little bit better than I think some folks are accepting. Now, he had to gut that one out, and it got dicey, but to the point you're raising, like against Lewis, for example,

that was a fight that you'd seen Taylor made for him to win twice against Francis and twice. Well, Francis is a tough guy. Those are hard fights to win, but, but yes, that there's been some limiting issues, but I do think, you know, there's a way to look at this and be like, well, could he stand up to blades is wrestling, but I think blades is going to slug it out with him.

And I will say this. There is a lot that is still unknown about Tom Aspinall striking defense. He is athletic. He gets in and out of range very quickly. He does have some head movement. There was only 15 seconds of footage Tom was getting landed on. But you know what? Pavlovich was landing on him too.

All I'm saying is obviously Tom Aspinall looks the part, but he has 17 pro fights. I think I just saw a tweet. 17 pro fights, less than a cumulative hour in the cage of fight time. That's not a lot of fight time about knowing someone who's already a champion, technically. So we'll see. We'll see. All right. Question number three, BC, from Moham.

I hope this is not a racist number. 1-1-7-8-5. You never know these days with the... Racist numbers? There's... Okay, I'm not going to say them. Oh, do you remember the band 311 people thought that was yes it's a similar kind of thing to that but there's oh there's definitely racist numbers out there all right all right or i guess assembly of numbers kind of like how the monster letters are are very satanic look no no this is the one that the racist tattoo on themselves so i'm taking them at their word

right uh do you think the luke versus Diaz fight was canceled due to Nick finding out the marijuana laws? That's the most hilarious answer. So for folks who didn't see Nick Diaz versus Vicente Luque was, which scheduled to be on the August 3rd, Corey Sanhagen, Umar Nurmagomedov fight. That,

that fight is being postponed. It will not be on that one. And instead, Charles bullet is taken on, um, uh, Oleg Shashik, which is not a bad fight

actually it might be an upgrade it is so what do you think i hope that nick ds doesn't fight and if he does i hope it's an exaggerated old guy fight that's more akin to his last fight with with a deeper aging robbie luller i don't know vincent vincent de luca is not in his prime and is probably closer to the end in a lot of ways from his recent history but i don't even feel like this is appropriately matched like how, how can we expect this? And it doesn't feel like Nick Diaz wants this. It doesn't feel like he wanted it last time. He basically said it in the microphone.

This is just weird. This comeback fight has just felt weird. I obviously, no one knows the direct answer, reason of why this fight was pulled, and I think that's a hilarious guess and answer, but I hope, kind of my hope now with the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight, that this long gap that we just kind of come to our senses now i want to come to my senses on this luke nick's not fit

to fight in there i don't want to see you anymore what is there to gain yeah i don't i don't know i don't know how to answer that anymore i think this is one part where your negativity today is actually yes you think i've been universally negative or selectively select Selectively. There we go. There we go. Okay. It's just unusual because you're usually the guy who's like upbeat and I come in here weathered and now I feel like. Look, never forget one thing about me. I like pleasure spiked with pain.

MK is my aeroplane, right? You know what I mean? Okay. With that in mind. Yeah. All right. You know what? We need one more sound besides the donkey one.

Like a shit sound or something? No. Look up Funkmaster. You know Funkmaster Flex? He has the one that has the bomb sounding going off. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, Nadir knows what I'm talking about. Ever since the start of the show, Nadir is like,

you need the Funkflex bomb in there as well. Yes, yes. That might be copyrighted. That might be copyrighted. We got to look into it. You can't copyright sounds? Of course you can. How do you copyright a fucking That might be copyrighted. We got to look into it. You can't copyright sounds? Of course you can. How do you copyright a fucking sound?

You created it. You can make an NFT out of it. Look, you can own it for life. That's a scam. Remember people sell it. Put the camera on me. Did you buy a Tremiah of Bitcoin? Put the camera on me.

Remember people tried to tell you NFTs were a good idea? Fucking idiots. All right. You think we've worn that idea out today? I mean, good Lord. I'm like, not again, not again. From MT Booble, have you ever purchased an as seen on TV item?

What the fuck kind of question is this? Oh, you know that aisle in Walmart with all the bullshit infomercial stuff? Yes, I have. In the best thing I have ever bought. I'm a Target shopper. Okay, the best thing I have ever bought in the idea of as seen on TV,

which has been around forever, that idea with that sticker on it that tells you just like the infomercial, is the clapper. Clap on, clap off. That one? Dude, the clapper rules, has always ruled, has always gotten a bad... How is this less energy than this? Look, when you think of as seen on TV, you think of like the Flow B, right? Like that vacuum haircutting machine. You think of anything that's just like a stupid gimmick dude the clapper

it wasn't a thigh master that you'd use for 10 minutes and never again i used it for years i think i bought mine in like an ames in like 89 but i was using that as a solo single man was there a correlation let me ask you in the mid-2000s still and i still have it i know where it is in my house and actually the other day i was thinking i should pull out that clapper and like and like set it up in my kids room where they don't know that i've done it and i can like play how are you married yet you lived like a divorced man i've always see that's the thing i have you got like your divorce dad energy. Hold on. I'll see. I have sad underlying. Who's got more divorce dad energy,

BC or me? I plead the fifth on that. What I'll say is this. I have this conversation both with my therapist and my wife often with my wife, normally like in a joking manner, but it's true. If things ever went south in my marriage and you know,

God willing, never, I would be the saddest divorced dad. Now, I wouldn't be ponytail in a sports car because that's like, you know, a guy trying too hard. You'd be ponytail with a balding on top. Let's just say I had an uncle once who, after a divorce, moved into a one-room efficiency apartment that I went into one time with like a waterbed. And you can reach your kitchen sink from the bed. And it's just like, I'm like, that's where I would be. It would be like my vinyl with my record player

and a crate to sit on and Fortnite on the Xbox, and it'd just be, yeah, I think I have, I don't want to say this because I don't want to talk it into existence, but I think I have underlying Divorce Dad sad energy. But by the way, back to the clapper, Luke, it still works, and it's still kind of brilliant. We all have a light that isn't hooked up how is

this or like you know okay here's what it works for it's not when you're too lazy when you have a lamp in the other corner of your room that you're too lazy to reach or if you walk into like a big basement and the in the light is not a switch it's not hooked why it's not wired you have a light that's plugged in in the corner of the room and you want to turn that one on or off for convenience when you're coming in and out. It's perfect. It's perfect when you're in bed and you have a lamp that you can't reach or you're too lazy and you clap and it turns on.

I can say with absolute certainty I have never in my life ever purchased an as-seen-on-TV item. No, say that. I know it's white trash for me to sit here and talk up the clapper, but it works. It had a lifespan. It still matters to me the clapper is legit also in high school i used to work at a store that sold like all the as seen

on tv stuff yeah i've used a bunch of it was like a variety so there's a store there's an outlet mall right outside dc in oxon hill maryland and they have an as seen on tv store yes brick and mortar brick and mortar um now there was a camp there was a question five but you guys said you changed it oh god here we go from fisher fisher aiden if stylebender stays at middleweight and wins the title again and poetan defends the light heavyweight title again and they both retire that's a monster fight who leaves behind the better mma legacy yeah but he's stipulating what if they don't even fight that's a fair question first of all before you answer that did you see dan hooker shared a picture of or mentioned that adesanya is like 230 and he doesn't want to spar with them and they showed him all jacked up look brick yep i love it when his backs against the wall look like it was after that first poet people keep

people keep sleeping on now there are questions obviously at 34 years of age what's happening a lot of time off blah blah blah but if he regains the middleweight title what would be a third he'd be the he'd be a three-time champion yeah no poitons won titles in two divisions and would have a better record against him i thought the question should have been if if the question is that both if izzy wins the title again poiton defends and let's just say they retired just like that thereafter who has the better legacy well the reality is poiton to an extent would have a better legacy because of the division jumping. And the head heavy. However, I keep trying to remind people of this.

The middleweight campaign is not close. Oh, no, no, no. Izzy is a demonstrably more successful middleweight in every way. But I think the head-to-head is the difference maker to me. But I also think if he regains the title over DDP, that's the fight to make at light heavyweight, isn't it? Or would you, yeah, you have to. Honestly, I think. So the fight would be,

it would be stylebender going for a title in two divisions for a second time. And it would be the third MMA meeting and the, what is it? Fifth meeting. Yes. Dude, that's a monster fight. Huge fight. Huge fight. I would also say though that um if izzy gets the title back for the third time i having lived through anderson silva's title

reign that did feel more special but getting it a third time is such a marker of of like generational dominance or yeah resiliency It just means you're... No, but to have it and then to get it back again, just the expanse of time that that takes, you have to be... The difference between him and Silva at that point would be almost,

not quite, almost negligible. I would be really sad if Robert Whitaker never wore UFC gold again. You think there's still... And obviously there's still a window. He's still in a position to do that. Does it happen though? I mean, he might be Jon Jones. you might have been onto something one day you know like one day he might but all time dumbest call all right i think that's it that's our top five

answering my question luke i wasn't listening oh about robert whitaker winning gold again yeah yeah it'd be all right i mean does it happen though it ain't a fucking charity man if this is not a charity if he writes the wrong against DDP, he says that was his worst night. He just felt flat. Just nothing went his way. Does DDP do that to him a second time? I don't think so. I believe that Robert Whitaker on his best day can beat anyone at middleweight.

How about that? Okay. The question is, are you going to get that? How many more best days does he have? That's the question. That's exactly right. Hey, here's what I did yesterday, guys. I scoured the globe for the good, the bad, the ugly the in between the highs and lows uh from combat sports

and beyond and we go far beyond um by the way i i was i'm like half serious on that 9-11 humor i'm not here to insult people i know when i make the dale senior jokes people get really upset too i mean it's comedy so you take that chance but it's just a joke i hope everyone understands it's i'm joking about that okay that. That's what everyone understands. This one's called, maybe I should stand on my business more. Yeah. Have you seen this shit?

People get offended. Wow. By the way, I got a lot of hate for my Green Day takes. I wasn't saying they're the worst band ever. I just said they're a little overrated. I like some of them too. I'm just not here to tell you that they're an a-list band like who's an a-list band pearl jam oh yeah long out with luke okay i mean the

rolling stones rolling stones is a list i don't know i mean i get pearl jam i guess as pro jam is rolling stones are more iconic than pearl jam right course. I'm not going on an iconography. Get to your fat chicks. You have another job or a train? Which one, Luke? Both. Or Osborne? Which one?

Okay. Here we go, you marina. I cannot believe that that name gets circulated at this stage of my life. I thought that was a one-time offer at night. It's UFC Apex time. We got to give it up here for Featherweight's Hyder, Emile, and Lee's Yong Yong. Rock them, sock them, Luke.

Okay, I don't want to hate on this fight. Everybody loves it. It was insanity. It was awesome. Yeah, I mean, this is not my favorite thing about MMA. It's crazy, it's wild. It's a thing that they offer. It's crazy, it's wild, it's amazing, blah, blah, blah.

But I just got to tell you, this is actually not why I watch MMA. I actually like violence, but this was... Come on, you's amazing, blah, blah, blah. But I just got to tell you, this is actually not why I watch MMA. I actually like violence, but this was... Come on, you're full mass after watching that, though, right? In a way, it's everything you want. It's so crazy. Only MMA could feature something like that, basically. I love it.

But everyone else was like, oh, fucking yeah. And I was like, it's cool, it's cool, but I don't know. Bruno Silva gave us a good moment on the undercard against Cody Durden with this massive uppercut. Damn, dude. So sick. What an uppercut. It leaned right into it.

Good finishing instincts as well. Double jabbed him. Boom. Sent the mouthpiece flying. Dude, there were some bangers on this card. There was definitely some good bangers. Dude, they have so many good fighters. It's actually hard for a card to have nothing on it of value.

It's just that there's a lot of filler. All right. Well, Luke, that was a great performance by Bruno Silva, but rate the call out afterwards. Donald J. Trump, make America grim. My new nickname, it's Bonus Bulldog Silva. Did he say make America grim? I don't know, but I think he said bonus Bulldog Silva is his new nickname.

You get a chance after a big knockout, and that's what he delivered. I was not impressed by his performance. Didn't maximize the opportunity. I know. At least sell me some crypto or something. I mean, please. Let's keep it going here. Speaking of Trump, Luke, a huge week for him on many levels.

I know we're not allowed to repeat what he once said to billy bush grab him by the so now they do that for themselves what the hell's going on here i mean my understanding and i could be wrong about this this is kimberly guilfoyle oh wow you're like i i've seen that snatch before that's uh that's uh his son's wife oh i take that back okay okay maybe she had to use the restroom. Maybe she just had itchy balls. I don't know. All right, Luke.

Rate that tat. Hey, listen. Rate that tat. Trump assassination edition, Luke. For what is a remarkable photo, I would not call this a great demonstration of it. It speaks of freedom, though. That left shoulder is free, Luke. It certainly does.

But I would say the photo, better than the tattoo, right? Yeah. That's a pretty fair. Yeah, not a great tattoo. Iconic moment, by the way, not an iconic photo, but it'll live on this man's back for better or worse for life. Hey, KO of the week was given to us here as 20-year-old Most Valuable Products prospect, Ashton H2O,

Sylve, the young boxer that Jake Paul has really built in a lot of ways, the future of his prospect series and promotion on he beat, he got, he lost to an unbeaten Canadian Lucas body and Luke body had basically lost every second of this fight, but the mistakes here from Sylve really like you got comfortable. He got real comfortable.

A lot of trunk movement, a lot of going square in order to do it. So watch, he gets hit with the jab, But the mistakes here from Sylve really, like you can't. He got comfortable. He got real comfortable. A lot of trunk movement, a lot of going square in order to do it. So watch, he gets hit with the jab, then goes square and boom, and that's when he gets caught. So he had a lazy jab, and then he actually squared up with body by trying to get a little bit too clever. Look at him, watch it again. Boom, boom. Damn.

Just not great to see. I mean, for a guy who has great, I think, athletic ability, and to your point, was dominating this fight, that is a really bad loss, and it was unnecessary. Dude, Joe Martinez was like, God bless him, we pray for your soul, basically. Did you hear them say that? I've never heard that before. I don't know if we have an ability to play it again.

If not, we can skip it. But basically, the referee at the end, why was the referee prohibiting him from celebrating on the ring let him cook i don't know if the referee because of the potential injury if he was but it makes no sense because the referee's not going to count so it's not like watch the ref right there see that it's just not clear why they were doing that i've never really seen that i'd have to guess that it was because of the of the scary situation no maybe the referee, you know, knowing that... The refs, I will say they don't like it when you climb on

the cage, and they probably don't love it, but you might be like, well, doesn't... They climb on the ropes in every boxing match. And also, doesn't Tank Davis do a fucking backflip off the back of him? Yeah, no. Also, it's Florida! For Florida to draw the line of that! By the way, celebrities in attendance, Hulk Hogan and Hawk

Tua, who I love. I'm falling in love with, what's her name? Hayley Welch. Somebody sent me a screenshot of her Instagram account, and the only person that I follow that follows her is you. Because, and it's not for all the gross reasons you assume. She has rebranded herself very quickly as a really decent, happy-go-lucky human being. The girl who got famous making a joke about dick sucking is now america sweetheart i've done the deep dive on her

it's a very refreshing turn of events that she's gotten this platform and she's given back do you see that she's we make jokes about dick sucking on this show we have not gotten that famous yet okay thank you i'm just saying uh let's roll on here wild week for car racing luke watch this guy get bodied during this wreck dude what the fuck oh wow i don't know if he we have accidentally shown death on this show before that's like one of those like you know uh cardboard cars that you know kids making like uh you know the backyard for a science project i don't know what level this is but that is dangerous for everybody involved look at those orange shirted let workers. Let me ask you. Look at the dude. There was a dude in that truck

that got hit too. Damn. Let me ask a question. Have you ever seen these bits where all of these losers get together at night and then they're doing donuts in the road?

Yes. And then someone always gets hit standing on the periphery by the car? Why does that person keep getting hit? Every video I see are two clowns doing donuts and then just mowing through

remember the ghost ride the whip era that was great on social oh my god what are we doing luke let's keep the car racing wildness going this is a throwback to 2020 the man's name is doug barnes jr with a this is the lowest level of nascar and he did a flying drop kick to the front windshield was it larry holmes who did this to his opponent? Great timing, Luke. Throwback of a reminder of when Larry Holmes was going to fight former team coach, Burbick. Yo, watch this shit.

Larry Holmes, he hit me. He hit me. That's what Burbick said. Let's see. Dude, that's the original Habib to Dylan Dennis. I know. Long before Habib did that to Dylan Dennis at 229, this was such an iconic moment. He ran across the hood of a car to deliver this.

So fucking awesome. This is fantastic. Who doesn't love this? From the roof to the hood and a flying dropkick. Yeah, that is. And that was after they had already fought on the street. What happened to the boxing I love? What happened to the boxing I love?

So good. So good. So good. Well, great callback. Hey, let's go to Father's Day basketball, Luke. For Father's Day, I'm going to play basketball with my son. Seems like a bad idea. Have you seen that account? It's so good.

It's so good. Have you seen that account on Instagram? Kids getting hurt? I do. I try to avoid that because it makes you upset because of it, too. Because when getting hurt on here there are kids getting hurt i have mixed feelings about kids i know we prefer elders luke i got a new segment alert it's called existential question of the week two million dollars cash right now but you can never shit in a toilet again for the rest of your life port-a-potties outhouses none of them you die immediately if you do you take it that's an interesting question no two million dollars

that's dude for the rest of your life so you can only no say this so he's saying you can only shit where outside i guess yeah no as the as the only guy here in this fucking room who has ever had to use an entrenching tool to dig one of those fucking holes and shit in the woods for weeks on end without any break, a comfortable opportunity to shit. And you shit third world style with a hole in the floor. Absolutely. Anybody who underestimates the comfort level that comes with a first world shit is an idiot. I would take that over the rest of my life for $2 million in cash. Can you ask Ken? He's an independent arbiter of this question.

Would you $2 million never shit indoors again? He says no, he wouldn't take. Dude, you can't underestimate that. I'm not taking the deal either. No deal. No deal. Good one. I'm not kidding, BC. The last two or three years of my Marine Corps career, we were doing work on the hill.

We took a milk crate and we cut out the bottom of it and then we zip tied a toilet seat to the top of the milk crate. And at the time, I thought that was the most magical, like that was so much better than the alternative with using the entrenching tool. This is not a fun conversation. This question to me is absurd. You know what I hate more than anything? Stubbing my toe.

Luke, you think all of my toes are disgusting because of disrepair at athlete's foot and just years of not caring, which is a decent argument. I stub my toes still to this day every second. Don't you do that too? Like running up the stairs and stuff at home? No, I don't walk around like a fucking goof. I stub my toes constantly. Let's listen to the joke of the week, Luke. What's worse than stubbing your toe?

9-11. To be fair, he's right on, Luke. Stubbing your toe does hurt, though. Really, really bad. Hey, huge week for flatulence. Just the same, Luke. Watch this bit in the fast food drive-thru. The drop cat right there.

The money. Okay, here's what I'm going to say. Abusing fast food workers? There's better ways to do that gimmick. I'll just say that the gimmick is funny, but there's better ways to do that than abusing. Should that man have been incarcerated for that move? Incarcerated? No.

Beaten up a little bit? Maybe. All right, let's watch this incarcerated man. You're under arrest. That's why you got handcuffs on, okay? So you're going to stay here. You know what I think about that? So, dude, is that some guy who, like, got pulled over for drunk driving and they had to take him to the hospital? Yeah, definitely, definitely.

All right, another new segment of the week. This one's called The Weird and the Whites. Luke, let's listen in. All right, one of us is baked and one of us is oven baked guess guess guess who guess who who uh if you thought that guy was weird let's check out zebra cake over here i'm gonna try a zebra cake with a strawberry milk is it busting we finna find out i think it's busted luke you know a a key criticism a key criticism of democracy is that his vote is tantamount to yours that seems unfair oh yeah that seems unfair luke i have a

soft spot you know having gone through a disastrous breakup of my life for petty breakup revenge. Do you have a certain soft spot for when the guy gets the comeback in some stupid way? I used to care about this. I don't care at all about this. All right, here might be the best idea for breakup revenge that I've ever seen. A can's mother has been forced to block dozens of calls

after her ex-partner allegedly took her phone number and plastered on poles here around the CBD telling people to call up and impersonate Chewbacca for a chance to win $100. This would be the most childish breakup I've ever had. All he had to do is be mature and go I don't love you anymore I want to move on. The calls have been waking her and her three young children up at odd hours in the evening and they're yet to stop i won 500 bucks well i'm getting phone calls at really strange hours of the night about one o'clock till four o'clock forced to call back the wannabe wookies and tear down the posters. It just seems weird. I just want to point out, that's hilarious. That's absolutely hysterical.

Today you've shown me children getting hurt, fast food workers being farted on, and a woman being unfairly harassed. And a really ill-placed 9-11 joke. Hey, Luke, people say it's dangerous to be an NFL fan these days, you'd say, right, to sit in the crowd? I mean, if you're an NFL fan, you're probably a degenerate. No one ever talks about baseball, Luke.

Watch this home run land. Oh! One to the dome for Tucker right there, Luke. Fucking hell. Damn. Let's go to Shohei Otani, the new Babe Ruth, Luke. He's a fucking beast. You said we don't like when children get abused on this show.

Watch this, Homer. Dude, he's a fucking beast you said we don't like when children get abused on this show watch this homer dude he is a fucking he owes this young child an apology luke all right let's see hold that did you see he correct me if i'm wrong i think he hit a home run 478 feet over the weekend and then probably threw a shutout nine uh five hitter i don't know he's not he's not pitching i think he's just hitting this year but oh i haven't been watching at all yeah he's an incredible talent uh if we had kids get hurt we better pay it back with some elder abuse related to this watch this home run oh jesus dude gramps did bring a glove to the game luke you know what i mean you know gramps did bring a glove to the game, Luke. You know what I mean? You know, Gramps is... You're bringing the glove.

You better use it, Gramps. Come on. Look alive here. Oh, God. You know, he caught that like Tookie. Yeah, with his eyeball. I can't. You would be surprised.

You know what I will tell you is so difficult as a parent? Trying to explain to your kid to move their hand to catch the ball. Right? Yeah. They don't understand that. They just put their hand to catch the ball, right? Yeah. They don't understand that. They just put their hand and then the ball goes flying. And if it hits them in the face because, you know, you're throwing it right to them, they just let it go right past.

Yeah, the kids are idiots for the most part. Let's get past that. Hey, no, Seda said this came from the tough season where Tim Elliott became a title challenger at 125. Watch this coaching advice. I never saw this before. Suck him off. Suck him off! Suck him off!

Get him flat! There you go, backside! Luke, you know, I've heard people run the pipe after a high C crotch, after a high crotch, but can you explain suck him off? I think he's saying to pull him off the cage. Suck him off the cage. Oh, okay.

So first get him north-south, and then suck him off. Suck him off the cage, yeah. Okay, there first get in north-south and then suck him off. Suck him off the cage, yeah. There we go. And they say that this sport is not homoerotic. It's the most homoerotic. Luke, people from Maine

are real weird. That's why they're called maniacs. I respect them to a degree, but they're weird. But they have the best license plates ever. Look at this one, Luke. Titties.

Titties is a great one. That's all right. Okay, let's go to the next vanity plate. Rub. And finally, Luke. You come first. There you go.

You know what? They are nice. That's very friendly of them. Yes. Is hitchhiking still a thing where you're from? So you know what? I actually listened to a podcast about why serial killers have declined in number. Yeah.

And one of the major reasons is they described the society in the 1960s as a latchkey society. Yes. More prostitutes and hitchhikers. Oh, drifters, yeah. People don't do that anymore. Well, let's watch this bit. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. How far away are we from racial humor at this point? No, we're not close. We're not close at all.

Can we not insult the blind? You're like, okay. You know who's going to get it on today's show? Women. No, deaf and blind. The disabled. The dead. What are we doing?

Well, speaking of the dead, let's watch this. So every time I see my grandpa, we play rock, paper, scissors, and it's so cute because he always chooses rock first. Okay he is i'll record it for you guys so you can see it come on come on come with me down this journey luke come on okay she did that well okay she did that well she made good use of his uh of his grave there uh no uh let's yeah can we do the up the plant one next all right let's watch this look we got two left you are not gonna believe what happens when you give a plant coffee instead of water Dude, this show, this segment has turned into your Instagram DMs where everyone just sends you memes.

And finally, Luke, this was you, or this will be you, sorry, when you get home from family vacation in Columbia. Let's see. I haven't jerked off in eight days. When I blow my load tonight, this is what it's going to look like. Dude, look at what the fuck am I watching? America. Why is he built like a crab?

Oh, Luke, that's the future of your country, okay? Why is he built like a crab? And that's, that's the future of your country, okay? Why are you doing it like a crab? And that's the shit of the week. I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you. Well, you know who took a beating on today's show? White trash. Well, we get called out for that. They're like, why don't you do the same to the other races?

I don't know, Luke. There's more white people in this country, so there's more white people getting hurt. Also, like, you know, it's, I mean, it's a, you know, there's a lot of material. There's a lot of material. There's a lot of material to work with, and this also like you know it's there's a i mean it's a you know there's a lot of material there's a lot of material there's a lot of material to work with and i'm you know people feel like people feel like racial humor like didn't get it's it's due guys we grew up with andrew dice clay trust me people have done it yeah they've done it they've done it there's i mean we grew up with archie bunker too to some degree yeah you know what i'm saying like

we heard like you know we've heard all that stuff we're just uh kind of hoping that stuff is is going away you know well i mean there's somebody yes like i'm just telling you it's been tried unless it's artfully done tastefully yeah of course and then listen there's always a role for some version of that kind of humor i'm simply pointing out we have lived through a world where people went through all the paces on that one yeah and so we just like our safe little world we can make fun of our neighbors guess how many pesos which is the colombian dollar by the way the peso yeah look at me i guess how much it costs people to watch our ufc 304 preview later how about zero yeah yeah just cost your your tolerance zero yeah that's about it yeah that's right so we'll have that up for you guys that will do a 304 preview to be fun let's hit these

brits right where they where they deserve it and they like it. Yeah. I want to go back and rewatch the last time they did this show at like 5 a.m. Yeah. With the Bisping and Hendo rematch. Which had no business being that fun of a fight, by the way. It was an okay fight. It was a fine fight.

It was obviously more competitive. It was two big moments, I guess I'm referencing, right? Where Hendo looked like he was on the verge of getting a huge knockout twice. Yes. And Michael just sort of characteristically outworked him. What was that noise? That was not me. That's them doing the repairs.

I swear to God, it's not me. When do I ever disguise my farting? I thought it was like that drive-through windows. People act like I'm trying to be surreptitious about it. Well, it is surreptitious. I'm blatant. I'll just do it audibly. I don't care at all.

The problem I have is when you do it around my exposed food. That's a bridge too far. I don't think I do that. We don't hang out enough eating for this to be a problem that you have to suffer through. Are you going to vote for Kamala or not? I have no idea. That's the question. Probably not, but I have no idea.

Kamala? Kamala, right? Kamala, sorry. I was told I can't say Kamala. I don't think it's it's this is why although kamala the ugandan giant was wearing a shirt that said uh like a political shirt this is where the english language not having accents kinds of screw you because you don't know how to pronounce certain things that way but anyway uh all right so let's remind everybody merch morning combat

dot store for anybody who's still watching this uh you can go and get uh 10 off maybe with a live 10 i don't have no fucking idea. Do we still do that? Yeah, why not? Let's do a 10% off. 10% off. I'll sign off on it, okay? I've got producer credits on that. You can follow us on the socials out there.

Morning Combat is everywhere. There's mine. I'm Luke Thomas. That, of course, is Brian Campbell. You know what I want to do again with you? Go on the road to a big fight, cover the shit out of it, and then do like a real row 8 rsd you know right i was

gonna say post fight i like post fight best post fights that's of all the things that i do post fights my favorite thing on location on location yeah do you know what was a really fun week in hindsight of of material we did that phoenix week for jake paul versus anderson silva yeah we did the pre-game preview in the hotel room with Sean El Shadi and Danny Sakura. I watched that recently randomly on YouTube. I was flipping around. That was hilarious. That was great content. We've been trying. We've been hustling.

Yeah, I'm a hustler, baby. I just want you to know. I hope I sleep tonight. I would like to sleep tonight. I haven't slept in days. I would like to. Yes. We had a big talk about it before the show. I was going to. Yes. We had a big talk about it before the show. I was going to say Cobra Kai season 6 is out, but you don't care.

Again, the lives of teenagers are not interesting. They're jumping the shark aggressively this season. They jump the shark pretty quickly. You haven't watched anything. You have no idea how good that show is. I watched the first full season, and then I got into the second season and I realized, right, I don't care about the lives of teenagers. Teenagers are not

interesting people, by and large. Tell that Romeo and Juliet perhaps not withstanding. I was told I can't make those jokes anymore, okay, Luke? With the 9-11 ones, you made like 50 of them. Oh, the Epstein jokes. Boy, people stopped caring about that all of a sudden, huh? Yeah, yeah. That's interesting. I mean, when Pat Tillman jokes are back, Luke,

I'll be back in a big way. That's what I want Showtime Legal to know. Okay, there you go. Of all the things that caused us headaches, that is literally top three. Hey, by the way, speaking of, do you remember the guy that was in that documentary, Greg Kelly? Yes. Him and Gabriel, I believe they gave birth to their first child. Hey, amazing.

Incredible story, actually. That was a really cool documentary. All right, so anything else to remind first child. Hey, amazing. Incredible story, actually. That was a really cool documentary. All right. So anything else to remind them? 304 on Friday. We'll have that ready for you. I don't have much else going on. So not a lot of day.

I can't tell you I'll be at the Laugh Factory or anything, Luke. Not a lot going on. Catch him at a DoorDash order near you. Catch a rising star. Yeah. Hey, I'm coming to the UK, though, but don't bother me. I'm there with my family. Noseda, plug what you got.

Let the folks know what you're doing. Also, you're a gambling degenerate. Shout out, everyone. Come watch Main Card Minute on YouTube. Bet breakdowns, watch-alongs, all that fun stuff. Who's the most entertaining besides yourself guest in the MK Extended Universe that the fans should go out of their way to watch your

podcast to watch? It's got to be Gaff. You can't not smile when Gaff's in the room. Gaff's a great guy he sent me some dms over the weekend for some tattoos he saw nice one in my opinion i mean he got our show tattooed on his arm that's incredible that's insane that's so much better than tristan getting like raccoons and like just getting rabid animals you know fucking by the way i'll say this tristan's an underrated hangman you won't because you don't like people so you'll never hang out with them i'll tell you this much he is very good with a box cutter and with that we're done that's brian campbell you know what's worse than a stub of your toe morning combat we'll see y'all next time peace you