MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Jake Paul vs Anthony Joshua Preview | Terence Crawford Retires | Aspinall Fires Back at Gane

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

Happy Friday, Donks! BC and LT dive into the Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua fight and discuss the undercard matchup: Anderson Silva vs. Tyron Woodley. Terence Crawford announced his retirement at the age of 38. The fellas discuss Bud's legacy. Plus, Tom Aspinall fired back at Ciryl Gane and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, it's morning combat. Welcome on in, Brian Campbell, live and direct from the Hartford, Connecticut suburbs, your BBC with that BVD or maybe BDE in my BVDs. Thank you very much. Next to me from Washington, D.C. is the best damn combat sports analyst in the game today. Luke Franklin Thomas and LTE. Today is the day, judgment day for Jake Paul. I don't mean to, you know, put the idea of death on the table with a smile, but

what the hell's going to happen tonight? I don't know. I don't know, but probably death for Jake Paul or something approximating it, you know? It is what it is in the end, all right? And by the way, this episode of morning combat today presented to you by Draft Kings, draft Kings, the crown is yours. LT, we have been flooded with the most. incredibly sweet and nice but you know bittersweet messages of people upon the news of my

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a producer, a director, a podcaster in his own right. Yeah, you know it. The son of a horned Aussie. Yeah. Long Island, Luke, coffee, no ceda in the house. What's up, boys? That, uh, that comment about the BCX got me, Luke. I was starting.

Left. Excuse me. Jake Paul Anthony Joshua tonight, guys. I can't say I'm looking too forward to it, but I am doing a watch along for it. Oh, sorry, girlfriend. Yeah. Sorry. Also, a new episode of prop quiz dropping in roughly two and a half hours. We got Mike Heck taking on Alexander K. Lee, a little on to the next one special. If you guys watch that. Okay, Lee's a good dude. Shout out of that. Kay Lee is the man. He's honestly really cool. Yeah, indeed. Wait, didn't you just have another episode the other day or no? i had brett and oscar i just recorded an episode like this i'm like working a week in ahead now so i have

an episode for next week already but either way this week mic hack a k lee okay by the way watch along i'm doing a watch along too and then i don't get to go to sleep tonight because we're leaving tomorrow morning i don't know why we i mean i do know why we did it because the alternative was we had to fly in super late and we didn't want to do that so instead we're flying in super early i have an Uber picking me up to take me to the airport tomorrow at 2.45 in the morning. Good Lord, Luke. So you're going to be snorting that C4.

So I'm going to do the Jake Paul fight. I'm going to do a watch along. We'll do a bit of a post-fight show. I guess I'm going to sleep like an hour, maybe two on the couch. And then that's it. And then I'm out. Maybe pop a few of them tummy gummies and just go to sleep on that flight or well. Oh, I can't wait.

My wife's going to be so bitter looking at me. I'm going to be high as shit on that flight. Oh, Long Island, Luke. Quick shout out to the UFC's John Gooden, who I didn't know was a fan of this show that Play-by-Play, Extraordinary himself. He reached out to me, maybe consider that guy for a little trivia, you know? Dude, I would 100% have John Good. John Gooden, if you're watching this, I'm going to message you, all right?

Let's do it. All right. A class gentleman over there from the other side of the pond. Oh, we do have a show for you today. We are. We're going to preview all things. Jake Paul, Anthony, Joshua, catch you up on the news that was this week in combat sports. Also your DM, or not your DMs, your damn fan subs and your dead wrongs.

Now, Luke, I don't know how many we have today because we were a part of the text discussion this morning where the producers, the people that work behind the scenes were like, is this 9-11 meme too far or just enough to serve our 9-11 fans? I don't know what the final decision was. Yeah, I mean, here's a very simple rule of thumb. Ask yourself, if they show this on camera, will they be fired? And it doesn't really matter in BC's case, but it actually still matters quite a bit in mine. I mean, it might matter in mine. You never know.

Fair enough. It can actually matter. Fair enough. It can actually matter in both. So if you're, if you're very funny fan sub doesn't show up, it doesn't mean we don't appreciate it. It just means we have bills to pay, okay? All right.

All right. I'm excited to see what they, what the North Korean censors deemed acceptable today for the show. We might as well get right. it with no further ado. It's time for topic number one. Tonight, Netflix, the Casilla Center in Miami. No, it's not going to be Drivante Tank Davis.

We already know that, but Anthony Joshua, the big ticket himself, all six foot six, the two-time 36-year-old former heavyweight champion, the late replacement to take on YouTube sensation, 12 and 1, 28-year-old Jake Paul in an eight-round heavyweight contest tonight. from all of the typical comparative metrics like size, strength, speed, athleticism, experience. They are all, just like the betting odds, aggressively pointing in the direction of EJ. It's kind of an absurd mismatch that almost guarantees Jake Paul will end up unconscious, maybe even before the end of the opening round. But whether, you know, he's running full speed into Joshua because Jake,

needs the money promotionally or is just that crazy, or maybe it's about uplifting the Netflix deal. We're not really sure. The one thing that Paul has done throughout is act like this fight is a normal one, that he belongs here, that he's got a great chance to win. So Luke Thomas, humor me here for just the second. If Jake Paul not only survives the eight rounds or less against Joshua, but somehow wins, is there a case here for the biggest upset?

in boxing history tonight, Miami on Netflix? Yeah. Normally what we would do in cases like this would be to look more strictly at just what the betting odds have to say, and I know you laid them out here, but what I'm saying is as a historical way to measure,

hey, what were the longest shots, mathematically speaking, that we have documented by virtue of what the betting odds might have been. And in fight sports, I know, again, betting is something that is, well, the ubiquity of betting is something relatively new to some of the other sports, but not to combat sports.

These sports go hand in hand, right? And so you have a pretty decent record of what those things look like. And the interesting part is BC, obviously, Jake Paul is an insanely long shot, even by the odds that are out there today. Draft Kings, and there was an article out today that, like, someone had pointed out that essentially, like, I think draft kings, and this is public knowledge, this public knowledge, would stand to lose something like a hundred million if Jake wins.

Like there's just the odds are very much stacked against him. But they don't mathematically align with like the longest odds I've ever seen. So when we're answering, would it be the biggest upset in boxing history? It would really depend how you answer that question and what kind of fealty to the odds you have. Not just statistically because what was Buster Douglas? Something like 42 to one on one book. This is not that wide. But I think the best way to answer that to interrupt you, Luke, is if this happened, would you be more surprised than Tyson Douglas, more surprised than Ruiz Joshua?

I was just getting to that. I was just getting to that. Like, Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson was a very improbable event. But Buster Douglas was relative to Jake Paul, a vastly more proven commodity, both in terms of what he had accomplished and then also just the physical might of the man. Buster Douglas was a big guy. no good reason for Jake Paul to win. None. That's not to say it's mathematically impossible. It is not. It should not. It shouldn't. Something like this, I mean, should basically, basically never happen. Lightning does strike. People twist their ankle. They zig when they're supposed to zag. Mathematically it can. But it absolutely should not. It's got it's it's like an almost unfathomable that someone of this level who had to duke it out not that long ago to a loss to Tommy Fury. would be able to even withstand the might of Anthony Joshua. The notion of him surviving is also, by the way, BC, very improbable. And then winning is, it's inconceivable. This kind of mismatch should never result in a win the other direction. For that to happen would be unlike anything I've ever seen covering combat sports

that I've been doing it for a very long time. I'm with you. But I do think if it happened, this would be even bigger than the near upset of Ngano against Tyson Fury when Fury was out of shape in their non-title fight got knocked down, was sort of lucky to survive a split decision. You look at the difference between these two. I mean, Jake, you know, people like to say

he's kind of a blown up super middleweight who fights at cruiserweight. As you see the size difference in their stare down on Wednesday after the press conference, Jake Paul has a six-inch reach disadvantage, a five-inch height disadvantage, not to mention the power, the experience, everything that we talked about.

You see Jake kind of slouching down there with the gut exposed. He did kind of the same thing at the smore or yesterday's ceremonial way in where he got in AJ's face. But man, could you see the size difference between them? Current odds from draft kings. And these have moved a lot. Anthony Joshua, a minus 1,200 betting favorite to the plus 700. Paul, I got to say, Luke, we see many.

I mean, many. legitimate boxing title matches where we come on this show and be like, hey, this is actually a pretty decent fight, but then we go, oh, by the way, the A side is like a 14 to 1 favorite. How is this fight even closer? Is that the money coming in on Jake? I think there's money coming in on Jake, obviously. This is a question that, you know what, let's bring in a resident gambling expert,

Long Island. Long Island, if we're saying that a fight like this in terms of Jake Paul winning should be, you know, mathematically it's not, but basically should be impossible. why are the odds as close as they are i'm not saying this but i'm going to say i think there's a large portion of fans who feel a certain type of way about jake paul fights you know you mean fixed stage i'm not saying it you know he said he's going to sue anyone who says i know dante walder said it and jake came out this week that's what i'm saying decent to

so i could see a world where people are going i'll bet on jake paul because i could see a world where something weird happens and so the unusualness of it is exactly people tempted i Yeah. Okay. That actually makes sense, BC. That's actually a great explanation because there's no mystery run Buster Douglas, right? People are just like, whatever, it's an opponent from Mike. Jake brings a certain atmosphere. And B.C., I also want to ask you this, too, if I may. I tweeted about it. And I wonder if you, A, agree with the assessment because it's related to this. And then B, if so, why? Jake is always being a little bit, you know, showman, you know, acting immature performatively, like on purpose. right that's always a big part of what he does i feel like he ramped it up here a little bit this week like you know that face off he was making weird gestures and faces and yesterday at the way ins i'm sure you don't we had we might pop we i think we have a clip of it maybe but where he was saying you know like sexual innuendo about anthony joshua and then touching his nipples and stuff have you noticed that he's leaned into the absurdism and folly of it all a little bit more

this time i am i'm wondering if it's because a j has been all business he typically is a j has not been mincing words not talking a ton of trash just being like absolute of what he plans to do and not only is jake looking for that last minute push of viewers because let's be very honest if you want to argue why jake's doing this i wrote a story about this on cbs sports this week i think a large part of that and in zach arnold of the mma draw kind of reported this that MVP tried to raise a ton of money earlier this year to try to compete with the top people in boxing including turkey alishik they were unable to in this climate with the venture capital funds.

And, you know, maybe that's why Jake was trying to get Canello in the spring. Maybe that's why Jake was trying to so aggressively get AJ this summer when that UK fight fell apart last minute. You can kind of get the picture that this might be more about Jake just looking to make sure his promotion is well funded for what they're trying to do in the future, kind of knows what he's up against, but at least is trying to do some wacky stuff like that push with Tyson and their, you know, off before that fight that I think got a lot of people excited this isn't a paper view but the netflix numbers certainly matter for jake and to illustrate your point forward uh here's jake on the scales yesterday at the official way in kind of just whiling out you know who i are i are him still 216.6 yeah absolutely dialed you listen to me brother with a ring bell

I'm coming in there and I'm coming on his ass. You know who I are? I are him. He are the one who will be coming on. Yeah, okay, we got that. Ah, so that was pretty wacky. Luke, I think part of it is just trying to psych himself up. Part of it is maybe trying to show Joshua that he's crazy and he's dangerous.

Joshua ain't buying any of that. I mean, look, unfortunately for Jake and anyone that thinks he's got a puncher's chance or anyone that thinks like, well, isn't A.J. 36, he's been off for more than a year since Dubois kind of viciously knocked him out. All those things are true. I'm also here to tell you that even though A.J. has passed his prime. He ain't washed. And in this, even in this heavyweight era, he's still an elite heavyweight. But look at what Inganu tried to do. After nearly upsetting, you know, an out of shape, Tyson Fury. But look, he accepted the fight. It is what it was. he went in there against AJ and like got sent to the bottom depths of hell.

I always tell you guys that I know the judges who worked that fight and said they'd never seen someone get more brutally finished in a pro bow. I talked to, you know, Dewey Cooper, Francis Ngano's coach there, and he told me the real details about how tough that physical and mental recovery was for AJ. What's the difference between Jake Paul and Inganu? Oh, how about the fact that he was not only the former UFC, way champion, not only had what we considered an iron chin, also had one of the biggest punches in the history of combat sports, and was relatively the same size as Anthony

Joshua. This fight, they don't have that. So, Luke, I sort of want to get your final take. We've teased all the reasons why. Why do you feel like Jake Paul is doing this right now in his career when it would probably feel like if he's going to cash himself out, why not do it in a time? title fight um why not doing a title fight i think he eventually will get a title fight even if he loses badly even potentially not like right away i'm saying but eventually if he

well i don't know you know i don't know i think the issue is this the guy is was it to me you know going from tyson to gervante as absurd as all of that is that actually makes a little bit of sense right If you're doing the, oh, sorry, JCC in the middle, but, you know, even then, the continuity kind of makes the same sense. You're going after an opponent with some kind of a name, but with some kind of a handicap, whether Tyson's age, JCC just kind of sucking, basically, at this point. And then, in Jervantes case, so small. And the Jervante one fell through, and I felt, I honestly, this is what I feel like it comes down to. He owes Netflix content, the fact that they had to put it in December. and they couldn't move it to like second or first or excuse me first quarter next year they

mean they probably wanted to get ahead of obviously the UFC's launch but even then they they kind had to put it all together relatively quickly and I feel like that explains more than anything and the reality is there just wasn't any other card left to go to he probably thinks that a he can silence critics with this even if he loses you guys said I wouldn't take on a tough challenge look what I did I think that's 100% coming after the fight win or lose especially if they lose And then I also feel like, as I mentioned, he owed Netflix. And then there's also, I think what he hopes to do is just survive. B.C., the ring size this time is 22 by 22, which is a little bit larger than normal.

Because what is Jake Paul going to do? Is there going to be some clinching? Obviously, but he's going to be running, dude. He's going to be on the outside running the whole time as long as he can. And if he can do that for a few rounds, he already wins. Ariel Hawani was reporting yesterday that between $40 and $50 million, each is the payout for this. He's going to get paid a handsome fee.

He's going to give Netflix what they want with at least, you know, I don't know if Josh was like a huge name in the United States, but it's a big global name. Certainly it's a Jake Paul thing. It's going to work. He gives him the content on time. He can write this whole thing off as just being like, I tried, I did my best.

I did better than you expected. Fuck you. Pay me. Like I actually sort of get why he's doing it. The only real downside B.C. for him is if he gets like irreparably caoed, where he gets like viciously hurt. and that's on the table here. That's the kind of interesting part.

But what's the incentive for it? There's a lot of incentive for it. Are you saying without saying in a sense that like maybe Inganu got so extra hurt because he came to that fight legitimately to win it? If Jake comes here only to survive as long as possible and maybe, maybe the corner's ready to throw that towel at the first sign of, you know, first sign of trouble, are you of that belief that that Jake is,

just thinking exactly what you said i guess you are like the street cred that could be available to him i mean i kind of compare it to to tyson coming out of prison and fighting peter mcneely who was a you know a journeyman heavyweight with a joke of a record was goofy and all that but did what he said he was going to do sprinted across the ring tried to brawl tyson got dropped twice his corner literally jumped into the ring to stop it which was a deque and even though we still think all these years later that McNeely's a clown, like, we got begrudging respect for how he carried himself. Are you envisioning something like that from Jake? Yeah. No, sorry, what am I saying? I'm envisioning the opposite of that. I'm envisioning a guy who, ask yourself a basic question, BC.

When has Jake Paul ever put a premium on the fight itself being entertaining? When? Yeah. He has he happened? Had, has he had some spectacular KOs? Absolutely, no question. Does he have a little pop? He does. I respect, he's a puncher. I respect that.

For example, in the rematch with Tyrone Woodley, devastating K.O. But the fight before that moment was terrible. It was a terrible fight. It was boring. Tyson fight was boring. JCC fight was boring. D.S. fight. I mean, there was some level of tension because he knocked him down or whatnot.

But like, you know, these are not great fights. He doesn't give a shit, right? what he gives the shit is, is there going to be some kind of material there I can use to spin it forward? That's all he cares about. So, like, I'm not saying there won't be moments where he doesn't bite down the mouthpiece and swings. I think there will be. But I would be very, very surprised if he just, you know, I'm just going to charge the cross and we're going to go. I think he's going to be here and on his bike for long stretches of however long that fight lasts anyway.

I mean, like, he has been sparring with absolutely legit heavy weights. Frank Sanchez being one of them will give him a black eye. There's reports coming out of those that, you know, Jake's done well in those. I mean, who knows, whatever. All I know is this. That means absolutely. Dude, people in combat sports will believe any bullshit that comes from any. Oh, the word is that the sparring was good.

What was it ever going to be? I mean, get the fuck out of here. I mean, look, and the difference is whatever power Jake has showed in the past has always come against opponents where he has a built-in advantage of either age, size, power, or even boxing experience for how little boxing experience he has. When he finally fought somebody of his own size and of his own experience, and that's, of course, Tommy Fury, he lost to a jab and hold strategy, albeit by split decision and he dropped Fury in the final round,

but still, that's the truth. So this is like a bridge too far beyond the bridge that's too far beyond the other bridge, I mean, wow. So this is what I mean, dude, like listen. mathematically, is it possible? Yes, it is possible. You have to have some humility about all of this. But this is definitely not a thing that should happen.

Like, definitely not. I agree. So AJ was asked by my colleague at CBS Sports, Shaquille Majori this week about like, what's a win for you and what's a loss? And AJ was honest. He said, obviously, if I lose, it's, you know, the biggest upset ever.

It's a huge debacle. He goes, if we go the distance, that's a huge loss for me. And AJ even went as far as saying, if it gets out of round one, it's a huge loss for me. Luke, the current Draft King's odds on total rounds, and this kind of surprised me.

Over two and a half is minus 145. Under two and a half is plus 110. If this goes more than a round, is that a fail for AJ, or are you of the belief that Jake, with his size and the mini experience he does have, could potentially survive, even if he's fighting a completely negative style for maybe even three rounds.

I'll say this. I'll say this. If someone, particularly in striking arts, if someone has respectable defense, and I'm not sure if Jake has respectable defense or not, to be honest with you, but let's just assume that he does. And they're not really interested in fighting. For example, BC, for example, very different scenario, but there's a lesson to be learned. the first fight between Geron Ennis and Karin, what was his last name, Chukhazan? Chukhazan. Chukhazan was not there to win. He was absolutely there to survive. When someone fights like that, it is actually very hard to look good against them. You'll win because they're legitimately not trying to win. But it's actually, it's kind of tough. Now, Chukadzan, B.C. It's a lot better than Jake Paul. And Geron Ennis is obviously, you know, a very different thing than Anthony Joshua, too. But it's a similar kind of lesson. Like, dude, if Jake's...

I don't know if he can hang on, VC, but if he's having success circling, clenching, covering, you know what I mean? Like just really, just not even trying to really throw back. I could see him lasting potentially a little while. But, you know, I, you have to imagine Joshua and his team are ready for this, right? You have to imagine that they're going to have to be preparing for a guy who the ring is going to have to be cut off on him a little bit. And so I don't know how long.

Dude, I mean, we'll get to the predictions in a minute, but I'd be surprised. if this goes past round three. That's my, you know, I wonder where the, the, the, the win is within an almost guaranteed loss for Jake, is the win getting to round four, is the win going out on your shield? You know what I mean? Like, what is the win here? And obviously, there's that other half of what Long Island Luke mentioned, how so many people think that this stuff is staged, that there's some sort of NDA contractual agreement that,

you know, you can beat me, but not knock me out or what have you. I'm certainly not pushing that forward. would have some of his fights been weird or wonky enough that you can make that claim. Heck, people make that claim in regular boxing all the damn time, right? Every close decision is a robbery where some promoter paid it off. And by the way, they might be true. You never know, you never know. There were some back and forth that really illustrate what AJ's true intention is heading into this fight.

If we can believe his words, and his words were so damn spicy enough. Yeah, BC got out, hello, I'd like to talk to the people who invented tequila. Yeah, Cuervo, shots fired. This shots fired, of course, brought to you by Cuervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Here is Anthony Joshua at Wednesday's press conference, not pulling any punches about the punches he plans to deliver. Is there any part of you that,

you think style or are you going in there? Zero part of me. And there's not even that, it's Jake. It's just, you know, I was actually looking at myself today. I'm a very, like, respectful guy brought up by a good family, but if I can kill you, I will kill you. That's just how I am. And this is just the job I do, so let's go.

I'm carrying boxing on my back. I've done it with the Engarney fight, and I'm going to do it again. I understand the expectation. I don't carry it because the expectation I have of myself is already enough but I understand it I acknowledge it and I respect it Luke here is something you can't understand

he's willing to kill a man tonight what do you make of those heavy comments I mean I I am I allowed to say I'm a little worried for Jake Paul yes you are yes you are sir I mean it feels like Luke

Remember people put up a stink for McGregor, Mayweather McGregor making the argument that like McGregor not trained or skilled enough to fight this guy, he could get seriously hurt. Yet we're talking about a lifelong martial artist in McGregor who also grew up boxing. We're talking about Jake Paul has been boxing for five years and he's not fighting Gervante Davis where we're arguing maybe he still gets caught. He's fighting one of the most destructive heavyweights of this century. And a dominant puncher. an athletic dominant puncher um bc we should talk about this how much do you feel like

anthony joshua being a little chinny is a relevant factor to consider here i don't think it is because i don't actually think he's all that chenny okay but let me take that let me let me let me let me put this in proper context did he get upset and stopped by and by andy ruiz yes he did I also feel the opponent changed, the American debut, Madison Square Garden, and the fact that he got rocked with an equilibrium shot after dropping Ruiz and then tried his best for four rounds to hang around and brawl until it just overcame him. I don't think that means he's chiny. He's always been a guy who was obviously not a boxer to begin with, kind of came to the sport late, still won an Olympic gold medal. But even in his prime, he was learning on the job. He was trying to be not just muscular and boxy, but trying to be not just muscular and boxy, but trying to

trying to be a legitimate boxer-puncher, and he became that. He was also vulnerable to certain shots. But there's a difference, I think, between being vulnerable and being chinny. He didn't lose to Ousek because he had a bad chin. He got out boxed twice by one of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport. And I don't think he lost to Dubois by being chinny. He showed an insane warrior's heart, kept getting up. In fact, he had Dubois hurt in the round about 15 seconds before he got sent to hell.

I'm not going to sit here and try to believe that even at 36 is he is the best he's ever been no but he ain't chinny and on the way out Luke let's be very honest about this your your knowledge of this is better than mine um I don't I don't I don't utterly dismiss it I don't completely say it's irrelevant but I just feel like I mean dude we know the rules every fight someone's got a punch someone's got a puncher's chance and and Jake does too here about but it feels like, bro, I mean, rarely do we ever get fights where I look at it and I'm like, no, literally, the only thing he has is a puncher's chance. That is the case here. This is the most puncher's chance fight I've ever seen because there's nothing else you can point to as a reason to have enthusiasm about Jake Paul's chances, not really of winning BC, but straight up not getting stretched out of the of the ring, if I'm being honest with you.

Right. So this is like the most emblematic of, I mean, you got a shot. It's like the longest shot I've ever seen. It's crazy. Well, those comments using the word kill from AJ did, you know, rile up some people who thought that was being too real or going too far. One of those people is former heavyweight champion Tyson Fury,

who we know, according to Mike Coppinger of Ring Magazine, that Riyadh season, Turkey Al-Sheek is planning finally to give us that historic All-England showdown between AJ and Fury in late 2006. They were both going to have interim fights, even another one for AJ after this. But here's Tyson Fury in the car

with about seven of his family members at the front seat, telling it like he sees it about AJ and what AJ's trying to do. Just picked the kids up from school on a schoolroom Paris and the kids and I've just been sent a video of Auntie Joshua talking about

if he kills somebody, he kills somebody in a boxing ring. I'm a very, like, respectful guy. Brought by a good family, but if I can kill you, I'll kill you. You know what? He's a little bit longer in the tooth to be talking shite like that. It's 37-year-old at the end of his career, fighting a YouTuber,

a Disney channel guy, who Tommy B, and now he's talking about killing him and all that to try and sell, please. Barking up the wrong tree, idiot. Here's a fun fact. If I ever come across you bum, I'm knocking you dead spark out. I ain't a YouTuber or a man half your size.

I am him, the man. You're a classless loser. Coming off, a 15 months knockout defeat to a local lad. Imagine if someone from Morecam knocked me out. You big bum, useless Dosser. Get up, and I can't wait if Jake Paul knocks your spark out, you big bum. Well, I guess that's stirring the pot to get us ready for the end of 20206. But, Luke, are there spirits of what Fury's trying to say that you agree with?

because don't forget that that video we played earlier of a j one thing he said is i'm carrying boxing with this fight just like i did with ingano when in reality although at the time we weren't really sure who ingano was we kind of thought maybe maybe he could do the same thing to joshua that he did to fury you look back now and you're like okay that's two circus fights in your last three and oh by the way whether this is related or not ariel hawani last night at his uncrowned live show in Miami broke the news that if AJ wins or, you know, tonight or when he, based on how we believe, that he's going to make a call out for his next fight and that the opponent is out of left field, which to me probably means something like maybe Andre Ward,

maybe a cruiserweight coming up like Opataya or Benavitas. I don't know, Luke. I'm just trying to guess but my whole point is like if you're a j you still got something aren't you shouldn't you be chasing the title picture rather than chasing these kind of fights and almost bragging about it uh i don't know i'm not sure how to answer that uh if you're going to get paid 40 50 million to fight jake paul and you're closer to 40 than you are 30 and you're probably not going to win titles or you know you could but yeah it would require a certain set of sacrifices. Is that what you really want to do?

I don't know what he wants to do, B.C., I think that's kind of the point. Who do you think Ariel's mentioning there? It can't be anyone in M.MA, can it? Yeah, I was like, is it Poetan? Is it Moses Atalma? What the hell is it, Luke? I mean,

Ruiz? My thought, yeah, my fault would have been in Ghanu if they hadn't already. fought, but they already fought. Like, they're not going to run that one back, are they? That would make no sense. I don't know. Long Island Luke offering Rico Verhoeven.

No, they would not run back in Ghana. There's nothing there. There's nothing there. I mean, Rico, maybe, you know, I mean, who's the audience for that? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Here's Anthony Joshua versus a guy most people have never heard of. I don't, like, why does that sell? And I only mention Andre Ward, because whenever he does talk about, would I ever come back, Joshua is the name he brings up.

Do they have beef or something? No, it's just that before Ward's retirement, him and trainer Virgil Hunter came up with the idea of him going all the way up to heavyweight and thinking Joshua was the right guy to target because he's so boxy and, you know, not traditional at that time. So I don't know. It's interesting. But let's get into how we see this going down. Luke, I want to ask you that prop bet again and get your piece.

pick because look you're going to pick a j and you're going to pick him by stopage and if a j didn't stop him by the way you'd have to believe the fixed fight you know army is going to get bigger it's just it is what is the ref i don't know i don't have that information in front of me because how quickly they stop it if he takes it if he takes a knee twice for example bc i think that's also a pretty relevant factor the referee here will be a big deciding factor in the quickness so will the corner of Jake. So will the corner of Jake, no question about it. It's going to be Howard Foster. From England? Oh, he's all he's up and down. Howard Foster. He's got some of those Lawrence Cole moments on his resume. If you boxing fans out there know what I mean. Luke, I want to hear

your take on that over under. Over under two and a half minus 145. Under two and a half plus 110. Where are you bet? I'll take the under. I'll take the under too. Long Island Luke, you're a better. I'm taking the under. Also, don't call me on that Howard Foster thing yet. That might have been wrong. Also, Joshua by K.O. is minus 380. Joshua by decision is plus

425. And if you want to ride Jake, Jake by K.O. Plus 1,400. Jake by decision is the same. And AJ by first round knockout, only plus 300. I'm throwing everything I got at that, Luke. Right?

I, I mean, maybe we're all about to have some enormous comeuppance, but it feels like they're giving away free money at this at the show. I don't know. No, Cito, what's the best bet here? Is it, is it A.J. by first round, K.O., because the odds increase for A.J. each round you go.

Actually, you'll get more money if you pick A.J. by like seventh round K.O. Yeah, so I was talking to Luke pre-show about this. I was saying Joshua rounds five through eight is plus 400. Him rounds one through four is minus 165. So you're getting a lot of value in those later rounds. I don't know if it goes that long. Draft Kings right now is offering a boost. At plus 150, you can get Joshua KO rounds one or two plus one.

That's great value. I hopped all over that. That's free money. That's that's freaking free money right there. That is. There's no doubt about that. Wow. LT, do you have any final thoughts?

Final things to say about this? Does they, oh, here's the key question we didn't ask. If Jake, forget like being praised for going out on his shield. If Jake gets fucked up, if Jake gets knocked the hell out, how much air does that take out of the balloon? How, like, is it, is it your only fighting KSI and Tommy Fury from here on out? Or does, is there nothing that's going to stop Jake from continuing to do what he does? The question you have to ask yourself is, what does that do for his ability,

as we mentioned, to spin it forward? And what does that do for the Jake Paul appetite in terms of what Netflix might be interested in? I mean, the reality is, BC, even if he gets viciously caoed by Joshua and they made a KSI fight, would there be interest in a KSI fight, potentially? Or, for example, let's try something else, a Tommy Fury rematch. Would there be, you know, could you make a Tommy Fury rematch, sell some tickets, make some money from doing it? Sure, but would Netflix be interested in that?

Would Netflix be interested in Tommy Fury too with Jake Paul? I don't know the answer to that. Would they be interested, for example, in Nate Diaz, too? I don't think that they would, not for the kind of money they want to spend, not for the grandeur that they're looking for. So the real consideration here is if Jake loses and loses badly, what does it do to his prospects? Not necessarily to get a fight and make money, but for anyone that the big callers might be interested in. And that, to me, seems a little bit more precarious. Yeah, and also, like, he signed all the, you know, he's cornered the market on elite women's fighters.

He has everyone basically, but Katie Taylor and he's going to make a UBO. I guarantee it. My official prediction in 2026, he's going to make a UBO for women. But in my opinion, this fights more dangerous than it probably needs to be, because if Jake isn't able to stay active in the type of fights that Netflix would want, then all of these fighters he's fighting won't have a big platform to compete on. I love that he's got Alicia Baumgartner, who's in the co-main here, and he's hired, you know, signed so many other top female names.

But if they're going to be fighting on DeZone and the Karebe, resort in Orlando no one's going to care so he almost needs to not let this be the end right like there's financial pressure on this is this is why like for example you know everyone's got a different view of like how far it has to go for it to count as a victory but to me if he makes it to round four and he survives three rounds and like i'll even say this here's a scenario for uBC he gets battered a bit but he's so fleet of foot for whatever reason i'm just inventing a scenario he gets battered a bit he doesn't actually get knocked down in the first three rounds now in round four he gets caoed just like in gone like vicious quick brutal the whole nine yards so in the end

you got kind of what you expected and you got the methodology or the method by which you expected it but if he can say i took this guy four rounds you know um look at i survived all of this like i did much better than you expected you know how what what how far is that that is in my mind, if he makes it that far, that's enough to spin that forward. It truly is. So this is what I mean. Like, Jake Paul is risking something quite severe,

but there are numerous ways in which this leverages future opportunity without ever having to get your hand raised. He just has to protect his health. And just for the record, Eddie Hearn of Matcham Sport, the promoter of Anthony Joshua, revealed this week that they're not using VADA to test for drugs for this fight. They're using USADA and that it was most,

valuable promotions choice and Joshua had to go along with it. So take that for whatever you think that means. Time for a quick history lesson before we transition. Can I say something real quick before we transition? Please do, Luke. I keep seeing people say that there's like, oh, there's a PED use problem in boxing. And my response to that would be, I don't know what an acceptable level of PED use is. That that's a, you know, it's a debate we can all have. But it's, be see, it's almost certainly on par with what you get in the other sports, right? It's almost certainly on par with what you get in American football, which nobody cares even a little about and has the exact same amount, if not worse amounts of trauma that

it runs people through. And so I'm not saying that's an acceptable level, but people keep saying it's like an unusually high amount. No, it's probably just quite commensurate with everyone else. It's just a different sport with different realities. I mean, how much do you think LeBron James playing 20 years is PEDs or maybe? that's asparagus and afternoon naps bc that's what maybe he drank the blood of children luke and some you know inner hollywood uh ceremony you never know look you do never know right

there i mean one day those files will be released hey now's a good time to uh remember by the way where tequila story truly began hey let's take it all the way back to 1795 when quervo invented tequila and since then all quervo's been doing is staying true to its roots the same land the same family oh yeah you better believe it that same passion 230 years later quervo's still right here in every pore in every celebration in every margarita in every time jed meshu joins us for mk's pregame preview so enjoy the tequila that started at all quervo the tequila that invented tequila proximo quervo.com please drink responsibly and l t sadly that i won't be there but the ufc three 24 pregame preview is uh about a month away as we get ready for january 24th and the first

uh p l e of the paramount ufc era so there you go topic number two luke is the jake paul anthony joshua undercard and look if you're an mma fan i'm not saying it's must see tv but in what But it's not nothing in what amounts to a loser's bracket matchup between MMA legends who have both lost boxing matches to Jake Paul. 43-year-old Tyrone Will Woodley fills in for the injured Chris Wyden against 50-year-old Anderson Silva in a cruiserweight matchup. And for as weird as this fight is, it's also kind of evenly matched with Silva sitting as a draft king's favorite of minus 275, occurring on the same weekend as both. Andrew Tate and Tony Ferguson will have boxing matches for better or disgustingly worse under the Misfits banner. Silva Woodley almost feels like kind of an interesting fight.

Luke Thomas, what are your expectations for this wash showcase? Hilarity, sadness. Let me ask you something. I was thinking about this. Okay, I sort of get, again, this is what I mean about, Jake Paul just kind of rushing together something. I don't know if the UFC told Chris Widman not to take it.

Because remember they were originally going to do the Chris Widman Silva boxing match and then that all fell through. I'm not He said he got hurt. Widman says he's hurt. People say lots of things. But whatever. Let's say he got hurt. Who cares? So then they make the Silva and the Woodley fight. B.C. Woodley is 0 and 2 in boxing. Those are the only two boxing matches he have. They're the Jake Paul one. He got viciously K-Oed in the second one.

The hype before the first fight was pretty good, but the fight was so-so. No, the first fight was decent. He hurt Jake, and it was kind of back and forth. It was so-so. It was so-so. Okay. Okay. Second fight was terrible, but it had the dramatic ending. That was in 2021. He hasn't fought in anything since then. And here he is getting yet a third payday.

And I bring us all up to say, at the end of his run there, remember he had like four losses in a row in UFC, and then you're like, wow, man, he's really, he's really, great champion at one point, but he's really past it. That's just father time. He's 43 years old. He has managed to get three, I'm guessing, pretty respectable checks at a point in his athletic life when he probably, there's not much of a market for that kind of a thing. So respect to him, like, that's actually pretty impressive. But this is the one I don't necessarily understand BC, which is Silva. Silva, who probably by MMA standards made a lot of money in his career and B.C. and just got over $10 million from the payout for in the class action settlement.

Like people were saying, how much is this guy going to get and how much? Silva got $10 million. He got $10 million. Why are you doing this? And by the way, how old is he? 50. Let's show the face off. Do you agree with the odds here?

As you see the height difference between them, Silva minus 275 Woodley plus 2-10, which, you know, that tells you it could be a competitive fight. It's a six-round cruiser weight bout, but the betters are, I mean, look, Woodley hasn't won a fight of any kind since 2018, although he did eat

hair pie on camera, Luke, which is not nothing, right? Is that a, is that a W? That, well, depends who it was, Luke. Let's also see a video of Silva on the scale. By the way, he came in at 191.4, three pounds less than Woodley. If I looked like that at 50 and three years, I'm taking my shirt off too, okay?

Yeah, and your pants probably too. Yeah, definitely, definitely. I don't get it. This fight should be butt cheeks. Let's just be honest about it. I hope no one gets hurt. That's really my point. I'm glad these guys are getting a paycheck.

I'll say it. I just don't get it in Sylva's case. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really get it. I don't quite understand it. Well, Anderson made some headlines this week when he was asked about Dana White and their business relationship and whether he's heard from Dana and Spider kind of got the old man's back surprisingly no he's not call me I don't call

me I don't talk to Dana for a long long time but you know a lot of people are talking about Dana talk bad about dinner but it's a business you know it's a businessman you know you stay in the business for many many years you know is tough you say something bad about Dana or something good, you know, because it's only about business, you know, it's numbers, numbers don't lie, you know, when you don't make the same numbers, why you, I keep you here, you know, that, you know, is, Dana's is Dana. It's a boss. Luke, is Silva unnecessarily polite, or is he trying to stay in the family? Yeah, I think he's just trying to,

Whenever you're a figure of that size, you know, anything you say can just blow up in the most, sometimes unassuming of ways. But then there are ones you can kind of see coming. And if he was out there being like, you know, Anderson Silva destroys Dana White. Let's assume that's what he, maybe he feels exactly the way he articulated. But even if he didn't, he is going to say something like this because if you just get out there and you blast him, like you have to then deal with a media cycle where. everybody and their brother is sort of consuming it, and it leads to, you know, potentially problems you don't even care about having anymore.

Like maybe he feels badly about Dana or doesn't like him, but just doesn't want the grief of having to, you know, deal with an ugly media cycle, especially for a big fight like this. So, you know, who knows? Maybe he feels this way. Maybe he doesn't. I just found the critique.

Yeah, he did, I don't think he, I think he's just trying to have a low-key kind of run here. That's where I looked at it. Alan Luke, you're going Silva by decision here, right? He's got the longer arms. He's got more boxing experience. All right. To be honest, I didn't look at Woodley's age when I made

this bet. I just looked at Anderson Silva's age and I went, he's 50 years old. I'll take Tyron Woodley at plus 2.10. So I'm riding with Tyrant looks so bad. He can't box, though. It's probably a bad bet, but we got a 43 year old going against a 50 year old. I'll take my shot at the 43 year. All right. I'm taking

Silva all the way. And that co-main event, by the way, Unified at 130-pound women's champion, Alicia, the bomb, Baumgartner, who we didn't get the video in time, Luke, but was heavily scannily clad at the official, at the ceremonial way in. We'll defend her titles against Leila Boydone, Boidon, something like that. All I know is the bomb is a minus 1,400 betting favorite,

but people aren't talking about this fight as much as some people are talking about the dust up at the press conference as Caroline Dubois, the sister of former. heavyweight title holder Daniel Dubois was most recently signed to MVP will have a fight for her WBC women's lightweight title on this undercard and I wonder if MVP is building something here. Here's a quick sound check from these two. I'm hearing a lot of talk about LAC being the face of women's boxing and then the best woman boxer and you know and I I disagree with that 100%. I think it's awesome that we're both on the same card and you'll be able to make up your

own mind about who is the best. That's true. I mean, baby, I'm the co-main event for a reason. So listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, one thing about a puppy, one thing about a puppy. Hey, listen, one thing, one thing about a puppy, one thing about a puppy, you got to train them, baby, and you got to take your time with them puppies. Okay. So take your time. Be patient, yeah.

Let the big dog do what the big dog do, baby. Eat, all right? I'm here. All right. Yeah, you in the U.S. Family viewed. Listen, you in the U.S. Listen, you in the U.S.

Listen, you in the USA, this ain't the UK, baby. This is the USA, baby. We're going to welcome you real good here in Miami. So, yeah, let's have a good time Friday night. Welcome, welcome to the team, baby. We're going to see. Listen, welcome to the team. We're both on the same card and you guys can make them.

I don't know, Luke, I'm feeling it you. Da-da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. I know what you're feeling. All right. Sorry about that. Sorry for that. No, it's a, I, I, uh, women's boxing needs rivalries. They do.

So, well, she's got, well, she's got a great one with Michaela Mayer. We got to see that rematch. That's also true, yes. We'll see what happens right there. Let's go to topic number three here. Let's keep the show moving. In somewhat, I guess you could say somewhat of, of a surprise. The five division champion and most recently, the undisputed super middleweight champion

after his upset of Canelo Alvarez, Terrence, Bud, Crawford at age 38, put out a five-minute-plus YouTube video this week, announcing his retirement, stating he had nothing left to prove. While we certainly will get to the question in a second of, do we believe him? Boxers say this all the time. A few boxers get to walk away on their own terms with as immaculate a legacy as Crawford just did, right? You're talking about guys like Rocky Marciano, Floyd Mayweather, Joe.

Calzagi, Andre Ward, I mean, there aren't many of them. So, Luke, if Terrence Crawford never fights again, how would you try to sum up what he has accomplished and how he might be remembered after 17 years as a professional? He is the closest thing I've seen to Floyd since Floyd. We've kind of discussed this on this show in previous ways when there was actually people asking us to make comparisons or comparisons were being made in the media like who was more dominant in their era or that kind of a thing but um Floyd had a run through boxing that was certainly at the end a lot more careful strategic thoughtful and designed around more than just who

the best guy he could be or who the best opponent was um it was also designed around you know promotional interest and everything that we all understand that goes into this kind of a thing but in the end, it was also pretty undeniable and pretty exemplary and without necessarily a blemish. Obviously, he retired undefeated. And when he beat Manny in 2015, especially, it kind of just became clear at that point who the guy was. By 2017, obviously, he was boxing Connor McGregor and he was in a different space, but he did things during his era that were clearly not done by his contemporaries. And to the extent that there were contemporaries, and to the extent that there were contemporaries who were biting at his heels or, you know, putting up other similar kinds

of things, head to head, he won. That is kind of, to me, like what Bud Crawford did. During the time he was around, now, it took a bit of a slow start and you can blame who you want in the whole top rank thing and, you know, or in the BBC Al-Haman side, however you want to say that that went down, that those certainly created some obstacles. But BC, by the time it all kind of came to a close, he was so clearly efforting towards a level of greatness that you just look around who else was doing something like that.

Yes, of course, there had been guys who had unified, in fact, he took a unified set of belts from, or undisputed, from Canelo Alvarez, but Cannella was much closer to his walk-around weight. Here we are a guy who had never fought at that weight class, and then he won all the belts in his one and only bout up there,

and of course that was the third weight class he had done that in. This is just remarkable in ways that his contemporaries cannot say that they did. And there's been some pretty good ones, BC. Obviously, we know Ussick has been doing tremendous things, and Inouye has been doing tremendous things, and plenty of others who've been champions along the way. But when one person is able to contribute a set of victories

so significant that you can't even figure out who would be two or three relative to this in this last era, it kind of says what they represented. That's how I can remember him. He just did things that his contemporaries did not. by a considerable distance, and it frankly wasn't hard to tell by the time that was all over. Very well said. I think the thing I'll sum him up the best is he's the rare proof in this sport where, you know, politics plays a big role, promotional advantages, A sides and all that.

He's the rare occurrence where the cream was going to rise to the top eventually and would not be stopped no matter what, meaning we all remember how long it took him to finally get super elite opponents across the ring from him. And yet, while we were on this multi-year build to the Spence fight that we didn't know if it was going to happen, it was another Mayweather Pachio type situation. And Crawford always said throughout that, I don't care. If it doesn't happen, I still think I'm, you know, I still know who I am. I'm still content with what I accomplished.

If that fight never happened, if Bud had retired without taking on the challenges he did at the end of his career, we wouldn't remember him like we remember him today, which means he had a very small window, not as small as the one that Skywalker took the Death Star down with in episode four, not that small, but a very small window to maximize his legacy sense, even though he was already a multi, multi division champion, by the time he got to Welterweight, it took him a while. He had a fight in aftermarket Ameriqan, an aftermarket Kelbrook. Yeah, he beat Jeff, you know, Jeff Horn, whatever, but it wasn't until he got the fight with Sean Porter, Errol Spence, Israel Madrimov at 154 when he was unbeaten and awkward.

And of course, Canelo, two divisions north of that. Yet he not only was able to keep up his level at age 38, where he's still so relying on movement and speed and set up, he was able to get better. He was able to do the best work of his career at the end of it, taking huge chances, putting the unbeaten record on the line. You famously said, Luke, when you were in that arena for, Spence versus Crawford, like tears came to your eyes because it was such a, such a virtuoso

performance. That's one of the biggest fights of this century in terms of like people waiting for it and the expectations. And he made it, he turned it into a one-sided beat down. So he was so great that even though he was never in a promotional favorite early on, even though he was always sort of against something holding him back, sometimes his own self, he wasn't a great marketer. Top rank got mad at him a lot for his inability to sell. Yet when you look now at the totality of his resume, when you've got Canelo Madrimov, Porter, Spence, Victor Postal, the unification at 140, which was a huge fight in his career, Gamboa, Jeff Horn, Ricky Burns. Like, no more can you say, oh, he's great, but he only beat two names. Like, no, he is a five division

champion. Long Island Luke, could you show the graphic of who is a five division champion in boxing history? Nanny Pachial, Oscar de La Jolla, Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas the hitman Hearns, and Bud Crawford. He's a three-time, the only male in the modern era, to go three-time four-belt undisputed. He's a four-division lineal champion, five overall. If we can show the retirement pick he posted of all the belts. he achieved in his career with the caption of nothing left through. And here's a quote tweet from Bud's very long retirement video that said, quote, I'm stepping away from competition, not because I'm done fighting,

but because I've won a different kind of battle, the one where you walk away on your own terms. Now, Luke, if you had asked me what was still left for him to accomplish, I do remember a couple months ago when there was a potential to fight plan for him middleweight to try to go undisputed in four-way classes where maybe he could have took the title from Carlos Saddamas and maybe he could have taken on the winner of Erislandi Lara versus Janibek to unify the other three belts. Unfortunately, Janibek popped dirty, the Lara fight didn't happen. I don't know if that was a decider in this. There are some

people online going maybe the news that Saudi's not going to have the same deep pockets in 26, that this is just Crawford's way of, you know, getting negotiational leverage for an eventual Canello rematch later this year. I'm not really sure. Bud has not been overly motivated by money in his career. He's also made a shit ton of it in the last three years. So Luke Thomas, do you believe you will ever see Bud Crawford in a boxing room again? Yeah.

Yeah. He'll come out of retirement for something. Who knows? Dude, apparently Jake Paul was pursuing the Terrence Crawford fight. You know, that's been now corroborated. he'll come back out for a paycheck. Someone's going to offer him dumbass money, and he'll do it strategically like he always does, BC,

thoughtfully like he always does, and he'll win probably like he always does. But I don't think it's the last round he's ever boxed. It might be the last round he's boxed for a little while, though. I do believe that. I mean, sometimes just stepping away on your own terms allows you to have the decision to never fight again and look what you left behind.

it also gives you that leverage in future negotiations. So congrats to Bud, wherever you want to rank him historically, I think he's achieved enough where you're probably not wrong. Meaning, look, it's going to be hard for us in this era to be like, no, he's not as good as Harry Greb was. You know what I mean? Like, look, we weren't around then. It's hard to compare boxing back then when there was largely one title per division

and there was only eight divisions. And now you've got, you know, four to six titles per division. and 17 slash 18 weight classes. But what Bud has done with what was available to him, he's one of the best fighters in the history of this sport. I want to close with a very good video. Hey, if you're not watching The Art of Ward with Andre Ward on all the smoke fight, he gets some very good interviews.

But the one they just released with Hall of Famer Timothy Bradley, Jr., is beyond must watch on many different levels for not just Tim's craziness and warrior spirit behind the scenes, but for this little story he told about the first time he met Terrence Crawford. And I look at him, I go, bruh, you ain't no spawning partner. You're a world champion, man. You are beating up and dropping sparring partners in steps Terrence Crawford. Oh, man.

Hey, look, Terrence lands, Palm Springs, never heard of him, brother-in-law goes out and picks him up, straight to the gym. Because if this work ain't good enough, we got a red eye for him to go back home. I walk in, I see him off in the corner. I'm like, who is this dude, right? Get in the ring with him. My team is right here. This dude is by himself.

He came to my corner to get water after every single round. First round goes, I'm like, all right, let me see what he knows. I make him a move, boom, I get hit. I'm like, damn, okay. Let me get a little bit serious with this man. Let me see if he lay down. So I turn it up. Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing.

He's like, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing. Right back. And I'm like, ooh, okay. He got something, right? but then I will raise it another level. And then it's an all-out fight. But he right there hanging with me. Every time I...

He's right there. I was supposed to go six rounds that day. I only went four. Man, I'm like, who are you, man? I'm Terrence Crawford. And I look at him, I go, bro. You ain't no spawn partner. You're a world champion, man.

I was like, why are you not fighting? And he's just like, I don't know why. So when I got in the car, I immediately called Cameron Duncan. I was like, hey, Cameron, yo, what you doing with Crawford? He was like, don't tell me. You're sending him wrong, too. I was like, uh-uh. I was like, I'm keeping him.

And I was like, can I buy him out of his contract? And he goes, what do you mean? I was like, he would my. That's when our relationship started to build because I recognized that he just needed a little direction. Right. Did he stay for the full camp? Oh, yeah.

He stayed. So I sparred him on Monday. And so then I'm going over the film and studying him and looking at his mistakes he made on Monday, but then Wednesday come and he's a completely different fighter. He adjusts again. But nobody was in his corner. So he's doing that.

By himself. It was like this dude had a photographic memory, bro. And so that's what I was just like, this dude is different, man. I cannot recommend the, especially the last 45 minutes of that interview enough. But look, that was 2012, that story. When Bradley was like a unified champion, you know, top 10 pound for pound, nobody had heard of Crawford at all. shows up alone and beats up Future Hall of Fame or Jim Bradley

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only to the monthly rate of your plan. Additional terms apply. Please see the website for more of them details. Topic number four, we go to the MMA and Tom Aspen all firing back at Cyril gone. So on Tuesday, serial gain took to IG and post, a picture of him sparring with Ty to Ivasa with the caption, still no date or opponent, but we keep on grinding and training hard before the holidays.

That post received an almost instantaneous spicy response from the current UFC heavyweight champion Tom Aspinall, who said, no shit, there's not a date yet. I'm not medically cleared to fight. I'm about to have surgery thanks to your disgusting fingernails. I'll be back to smash your face in. soon. You cheat. LT. Is it just me? Or has this very unfortunate I poke gate, which took place during a fight that none of us were all too excited about, given the John Jones debacle,

suddenly makes this inevitable rematch must see because of the spite between them and maybe has turned Tom Asperol into the heel. We've been hoping he can become all along. Where do you stand on this? I right in line with that. The fight has to happen anyway, just because it was a title fight that ended in a, what do you want to call it, fluky way, they need to run that one back. So it's going to happen no matter what. But Tom doing everything he did afterwards, where he's leaning into all of this, trying to show how his eyes messed up and, you know, obviously now giving ammunition to his skeptics, let's put it that way, that has raised it. And now Tom has done the other part where he has kind of turned the. the screw one more time and now he's going on the offensive it's more about like oh i'm

defensively answering to the claims now i'm going to go on the offense now i'm going to tell everyone in his mind anyway what the situation is and you could say he believes that you could say he doesn't either way bc it gets back to your point which is i did this i mentioned this before i did this exercise with mike bond and the worst fight we had in 2024 and 2025 was literally drickest duplicy versus sean strickland one and two but like right above that in terms of like the all-time worst or I should say the worst of 2025 was maybe the fight between, although the event anyway, between gone and Aspinall. I have to tell you, one of the more intriguing fights that I want to see in 26 is the Aspinall-Gone rematch. We already indicated it has to happen, it will

happen. All these atmospherics have made it much more hotly contested. It put rivalry into a place where maybe there wasn't one before. And it has raised a bunch of questions about Tom's Aspinall, Aspinel's development, which we see, we were all kind of, no one has been hiding for the fact that, you know, Aspinall kind of fights like this. And some of that stuff was made to be a real weakness for him against gone. I am way more interested in the rematch than I ever was the first fight. I love this rematch. And I think it's much more competitive than the, what I thought the first fight would be and much more interesting stakes this time around. Count me in. Yeah. I'm starting to wonder, like, either Tom Aspinall has the worst luck ever,

and this was never meant to be, meaning, remember he got injured, missed a year against, after the Blades fight, then had the John Jones soap offer for two years, finally becomes full champion, and now we're like, okay, be the Superman that we thought you were, and then has this happen, everybody calling him a quitter, either he's got the worst luck or this is setting him up for the biggest breakthrough and, you know, a really good full circle story of coming back, demolishing gone, taking on whatever celebrity is out there, Jones, Poetan, whomever. So, Luke, I don't know how long eye surgery, though, last, recovery-wise.

Do you have any idea? We don't know the severity if it's going to be one eye or both eyes? I think it'd be wise to expect him late second or maybe third quarter of the year. All right. So if that's the case, it seems clear that we're going to need an interim title. I mean, they floated an interim lightweight title. real quick, like, when Toporia was suddenly having blackmail problems and divorce problems here. So, Luke, if Aspinall surgery does keep him out for the first half of next year,

what is the right play by UFC for an interim heavyweight title fight? Surreal Gahn versus Waldo Cortez Acosta if he wins his next coming fight in January, Waldo? Yes. Yes. Or John Jones versus Alex Pereira? or some combination of both. What should the UFC do? What will the UFC do? Long Island Luke says Gone versus Volkov.

I like that one actually more because Volkov really has a case to have beaten God. And that's a rematch that you can run back and it'd be have a title. I mean, and honestly, if you're Volkov, I don't know if you're going to get an opportunity if they don't slot you in on that one. I like that call by Long Island.

Great one. I think that's a good one. And by the way, there's like real intrigue in that fight because gone kind of got away with one there. so are you of the belief that there's no reason at all to put jones perera an interim title fight like no reason at all not even to trap john into saying if you win you have to fight i don't think about john jones at all in any capacity all right i'll see i understand i understand he might come back and compete i get that but he is as flaky and unreliable as a human being can possibly be and

even if he stays for a fight, how much longer after that? Probably not very long at all. Like, he's just, he's a ghost as far as I'm concerned. A Long Island Luke reminding us that Volkov lost twice to go? Yes, he got bodied the first time they fought. And then the rematch was the three-rounder where he looked much better. Oh, and he got robbed on the scorecard. Yeah, that's right.

That was recent. Okay, my mind's coming back to me. Yeah, I guess you don't need a title on Jones Pereira. It's a super fight if they go that way. do you make anything of that weird post that MMA fighting put out then they took it down and it kind of said that Pereira said that

the White House is not going to happen for Like is that fight so big You don't need it at the White House You can put it in any pay-per-view I just think that they have I mean it's the same thing I've been saying this whole time They have a calendar to fill And if you know

I will say this though If Topori is not going to be on it You can still put Islam on it right So that's still something you can do But Islam headlining a card, even at the White House, I'm sorry, is not an, I mean, I don't know what enough would be, but that doesn't seem like it'd be enough. You would imagine Poetan would be on that card too, but they've got, they've got other events. They've got to take care of the rest of the year. So, you know, I think people should have somewhat, somewhat managed expectations about that card.

All right. We'll see what happens there. But I like the dark turn here from Aspenol. Feel your anger. I do. I definitely like it. This is like episode six when that. cry baby, Luke Skywalker finally put on the black and got all Jedi up on that ass, Luke, you know what I mean?

We're talking about Return of the Jedi? Yeah, Luke Skywalker, because he's the son of that absolute bitch, Anakin. Yeah. To George Lucas making two whiners, the history of the winners of the, you know, the greatest warriors in the galaxy, really tells you that Star Wars is a piece of shit franchise. Wow, wow. The real Star Wars is called Dune, One and Two. by Deneve Villeneuve. Check it out.

Dune is Star Wars for adults. That's right. That's right. That's right. And if you're mad at me, look my balls. I don't care. For writing that story that Luke is stole from you. Let's go to topic number five, a little hodgepodge, po-pery of combat sports. News and notes off the top here, Luke, former UFC heavyweight champion, two-time champion. Kane Velasquez could be released from jail as early as February of 2020. despite serving a five-year sentence following a conviction for attempted murder where at trial

he was facing as high as 30 years. Kane scored a new parole eligibility date this week. Kane now must appear before the parole board to plead his case. But if everything goes perfect, he could be out by February. Here's an updated picture of Kane in the prison yard. I believe that's Sean Combs, number five behind him, Luke. looking to have him snap the ball in the jail yard football game. Yeah, there we go.

Let me get those hands behind that crackola. In all serious, Luke, I mean, look, we all kind of sympathize with Kane, even though he took martial law into his own hands. Are you surprised that he could be out this quick? Not necessarily, because as I understand it, he was eligible already in March. They just pushed it back earlier, not further away, but earlier to February. So I don't think it's a huge change.

change. He probably is a, I'm guessing, a model inmate, right? And I'm sure is probably well liked within the inmate ranks. That's actually, I've seen some reporting to that effect. And clearly is keeping himself busy. So no, I mean, it's not a huge change from what we were going to get before. I also agree. I didn't love the recklessness that he engaged in. Obviously, in an act of rage, we've been over this a million times. But he is, he is paying his cost for it. the state is determining that he could be out even sooner. If that's what the state determines, then I'm okay with it too. And, you know, hopefully this is a thing that his family,

I'll say this, can move on from after this when he gets out. And I guess we'll see. There we go. So like no like Kane-Lesner rematch in the Octagon in 26. Do you think there would be one for something like that? I mean, I don't know. I mean, he's not. Kane seemed physically shot by the time he fought France.

and it's been a while I don't think he was I mean his knee gave out on him right when he got rocked I don't know he's had a lot of knee injuries that's what I mean like he seemed to be kind of crumbling you know interesting stuff right there long out Luke does he ever fight again does he doesn't need to but like does he ever fight again no thank you thank you for that very succinct right to the point uh Luke BKFC had a press conference yesterday in Philadelphia to announce their next tent poll event I know you love and care about this type of stuff knuckle mania six is coming to Philly February 7th in your main event, Ben Rothwell will defend his BKFC heavyweight

championship in a combat trilogy against Andrei Arlovsky. If you recall, Rothwell was knocked out by Arlovsky in the Affliction Banner and then took a decision loss years later in UFC. In your co-main event, light heavyweight champion Lorenzo Hunt will defend against the ageless Cuban missile crisis, as Luke calls him, Yoel Romero. Yes, no forget. Cuban muscle crisis. Muscle, I butcher that.

While I'm here to announce these two matchups to find out whether Luke actually cares, I'm really here just to play crazy BKFC highlights from that pressure. But Luke, first and foremost, you care once in a while when BKFC rolls out an MMA-inspired matchup. Do you care about either of these?

I will say this. The Ben Rothwell one is intriguing to me because I like Ben. I think Ben's a good guy. and what's interesting BC is Ben is actually very talented as a full-on martial artist he's a black belt and jiu-jitsu

like the guy is he's been respected and well-rounded as a heavyweight since you know I mean I became aware of him in the IFL days international fight league days obviously predating well many things

anyway point I'm trying to make is what's interesting though BC is he like if you would imagine anyone like well-suited for bare knuckle, which doesn't necessarily put the same kind of premium on technical expertise as other combat sports, it would be Ben because he has obviously big power. He's durable as shit. He's just a big, tough dude, and he doesn't mind mixing it up. So he's had an enormous amount of success.

Him and Arlowski have already fought a couple of times, obviously. This is a different rule set, different time. We'll see what happens. But I got a little bit of intrigue for that one. Ben Rothwell's career has been an interesting one to follow. It has been. Shout out to Ben Rothwell. As he famously said, only politics can slow me, but I think he forgot you Sada slowed him for a couple of years as well. But I'm here to see you L. Romero in any form of combat.

But I'm only doing this so I can show you this wacky sound. The first one, I don't know this guy's name. He looks like Joe Pfeiffer, but this is your soundbite of the week. But me, me and crazy yours, it's what they call me, Mr. Movie scenes, movie scenes. That's all it's going to be, you know what I mean? We're going to put on a fucking show. It's going to go however I want it. It's definitely not going to go five rounds because I don't get paid for overtime.

But like I said, I might even strip him naked in there too. I don't know. We'll see. You know, raw, no spit, no lube, cheese grater. Fist right up his fucking ass. I don't know, however I wanted to go. But, yeah, it's going to be a great time. really no reaction how do you have no reaction to that that is just wild am i supposed to have

other than revulsion and sadness all right cheese greater style look no loob okay wow by the way long island look reminding us that parker porter connecticut combat legend will be headlining at bkfc show tomorrow night at the mohegan sun there in connecticut i will not be in attendance uh we have one other video to show you you know this gimmick this one fighter has where he brings the canoli to the fight all the time i think i've seen something like yeah well he threw it watch this and there you go look and there you go look that's entertainment for the family uh cheese grater style indeed uh let's keep it moving here in the news cycle, 2025 PFL featherweight champion,

Mavlid Kabulayev, if I'm pronouncing that right? Khabulayev, yeah. Abulayev, tested positive for a ban drug known as Recombinant, eryri, Piotin, Piotr, I'm sorry, wait. Hell yeah, bro, you nailed that. And he has been suspended for one year by Usada. The 35-year-old was also stripped of his PFL belt. And Luke, he's yet another team Habib member to pop dirty.

Not the big four team hobby members who are setting a new style and trend of dominance in MMA, but those other guys. Your thoughts, Luke, on Kabulayev testing positive for recombininin eryropiotrin. Yeah, EPO is what that means. Oh, all right. Why did they just say that? I mean, come on, you know what I mean? Like, what's going on?

Yeah, if you were ST. wruggling through that word. Wow. Yeah, there's been a bunch of guys in this camp that have had some issues. Now, some of them I'm more partial to as excusable. For example, at the time in which I believe Islam was hemmed up for Maldonium, that was a time where a bunch of Russian athletes were simply taking it even as like a health marker. That's not to say that there wasn't some benefits conferred from it, but there was just a lot of practices at that time that were, to me,

not as much of an issue as, you know, the EPO one is pretty bad, right? That's sort of getting caught with your pants down. But nevertheless, I mean, you know, there have been five of these happening now. Husband's been had an issue. Islam's had an issue. Mowlitz had an issue. To Google, I believe, had an issue. And there's another one, too.

You know, I mean, this is what I, I mean, I, I, I, I, I, drugs are here, both through contamination and elected use. or on occasion neglectful use. Like there's many different use cases. And I don't think that it's a great thing that we live in a world with these kinds of blurred lines anymore. It definitely makes people have questions about the integrity of the product. I understand we've been over this.

I understand the concerns. And I'm just going to keep going back to the same response. Show me a sport that's eradicated it. And then show me what methods they used and tell me that can work here. And, of course, we know that the answer is that they can't. Like there's some level of the drugs having, the drugs are here and you just have to kind of mitigate him as they are. Now, that being said, BC, I have no problem with PFL changing the results of all of this. I have no problem with the PFL awarding a new winner and giving them money.

I have no problem with any of these changes, nor the ill repute that might happen to an athlete who gets caught in this way or the team that they're associated with. I just, you know, people keep waiting for some imaginary day where we'll have a great answer. to this and all we need is just a little bit more toughness about the attitude and that's just as magical thinking some level some level maybe not in this case but some level of accommodating to the

just the unfortunate nature of reality is the only path forward in my in my view maybe when they say two to three years in Dagestan and forget it they mean that's the amount of time that it takes to get it all through yourself yeah just that shit out yeah Or to just bake in a bunch of changes that they can't take out later, you know.

Very true. Let's keep it going with some fight announcements. Leo Gimaris reporting that the UFC 326 pay-per-view March 7th in Las Vegas, of course, the BMF title rematch atop that card of Max Holloway versus Charles Dubranks Oliva. It has some updates in the middleweight division. Now, it's expected that when Hamzaa Chimae of the current champion makes his first defense, it'll come against Nassardine Imov. So if that's true, these two matchups on UFC 326 make a lot of sense.

Paulo Costa, ready to welcome Bruno Faheda, and Reneer de Ritter, fesh off that exhaustion loss to Brendan Allen, will take on Kyle Boholio, who just suffered a step-up loss of his own against Imov. Luke, are you in on this matchmaking if this report is true? Paulo Costa has fallen on hard times. I don't even know if he's going to beat Bruno Faheda. I think he can. But I just don't even know what we got with him anymore.

But I got to tell you, that RDR, Kyle Bahalio fight, I actually love that because obviously it's a good pairing based on where they are in the rankings, but both of them have a little bit to prove here. Kyo was, I thought, pretty flat against Nemovov, and RDR completely fell apart against Brendan Allen. Now, I hope in both cases that they're rested and to the extent possible, healthy and like, you know, much more able to rather than keeping a streak alive or a push alive to make a peak effort at winning here, but I

really, really like that. I just think on the Paul O'Costa side, man, dude, he's falling on hard times. Like, I'm not saying it's a bum opponent, but this was a guy that they were saying was going to fight for a title and did fight for a title, obviously, against Izzy and could do something, and he is, we're a far cry from that. Yeah, I'm with

you on that. That is, we'll see how those matchups break down, but I want to see if RDR can bounce back. Was he just riding a hot streak? Then it was too much too soon. This is an important fight for whatever future he's got here at top of division. Our final little bit of news came from a podcast. I've been digging. Dominic Cruz's Love and War podcast, maybe not so much the Matan episode, but the ones where he brings on

former opponents and talks true about their history. This time, though, he had famed MMA referee Herb Dean on to discuss fowls and the idea of automatic points. We've got a video. We've got a quote. Let's go to the video first. Eye pokes. Groin shots. Are we going to start taking away points right away. Is that something that can happen? Is that even an option? What about the time when John Jones has his hand on Cormier's face, finger goes and Formier's eye and Cormier looks him and goes and poke me in the eye. Do you think I should have took it a point? I think that it's not up to you. The problem is they're giving you a choice, so then it's hard. So it should have been automatic. I think I poke should be an automatic.

Then also you hear Jones say I did it. I do. I poke eyes on purpose. Yeah. I don't think that one was on purpose. This one? Huh? Oh, well, I don't know about that one. But no, I was talking about a totally different one. But it's like, dude, like Jones talks about it. Like, he does it on purpose. Yeah. At the end of the day, people are using these things to,

because it's a death match. All this fair and love and war. It just is. That's how we, I'm not going to lie. Like, I get John Jones doing that. We're going to be treating situations like that one, I think, different. Luke, Dean would go on to say about, that DC John fight. Okay, so I have my hand on your head controlling your head perfectly fine,

but of course you don't like that. You don't want your head controlled and you start moving your head around wildly and then all of a sudden you get a finger in your eye. You actually put your eye on a finger because yeah, you're doing the right thing, but the way you chose to do it, you didn't choose to back off. You started rolling your head and somehow a finger got near your eye. What I'm saying is that's why we can't make these things automatic, meaning point point deductions. That's why there has to be discretion because I know you don't think that makes sense. And quote, so Luke, what Dean is basically saying is there should be no hard and fast rule because sometimes it's the guy who got poke's fault for walking into it. I don't know,

dude. I just feel like if you change the rule and say you poke, you lose a point, pokes go away. They go away quick. I have mixed feelings about Herb Dean's response here, BC because I was looking at someone who was showing I watch I watch film breakdown in basically every sport and I watched one on the NBA last night on who's the guy shy Gilgis what's his last name SGA Alexander yes yeah and he does this bit where he'll he'll as he's not he's not the only one but the guy was showing consistently he jumps into a standing guard to draw a foul like he doesn't come up and down. He purposely comes up and then almost like jackknifes into them

to get a call. He's got like this really weird jumping motion that he does. And I'm not here to like say the analysis is great or whatever you can decide that, but like there is a real possibility where someone can just like not be doing anything and then someone else moves into them to

potentially draw a foul. Although Herb is kind of claiming the opposite here where someone is just doing this and it's like you moved your hand into their face. And it's like, you moved your hand into their face. And it's like, like what like I don't know no he's saying you moved your head into their hand so it's your fall yeah and I'm like I can understand the idea that someone is just defending and if you move into

a standard defense that's one thing but like how do you move your head into someone's fingers if their hands are like this yeah especially at distance like you it would be you have to come over on top and if their hands are on your head like that and then they slide down it's the fault of the guy who's sliding down. I'm with Herb that I'm not necessarily in favor of automatic point deductions. I think that can cause some problems that we don't necessarily want. My issue is they should be much more willing to pull the trigger on a point deduction. And the idea that like, oh, the problem here is guys are just moving their heads into people's fingers.

That does not strike me as the strongest analysis I've ever heard. So I'm kind of between, I'm between her. and then between Dom on this one. No, I'm opposite Herb on this. It's like that's why we made a rule that guys just can't take their piece out in front of chicks like casually and randomly unless you're Brian Callan because like it doesn't matter the accidental intent or no, you walked into my dong. It just happened to be out. Like, no, that's inappropriate, brother. Okay.

Like that's assault, right? Like that is not the direction we're looking to go with this show apparently. All right. There we go. That's, yeah. I won't be here much longer. folks. Thank you. Yeah, this is the, uh, this is the retirement tour. That's good. Okay. Hey, those are our five topics today. Hope you enjoyed them. Our last bit of effort here today is to

offer you the fans a chance to have your shit seen. Uh, morning combat at gmail.com is your gateway to find out, right? Mikey's on the other end of it. Show them your goods. If you're into that, please don't though in real life. But, uh, we got dead wrongs. We got fan subs. And up first, We go back on trial once a week, ombudsman style, to face the music. Did we say something incorrect, insensitive, or just wrong, right into the show and find out, but you better have a timestamp.

This one's called Dead Wrong. All right. Our first one comes to us from T.J. Who says, hello, Luke, B.C. in Long Island. This is T.J. from the city of Victoria. in beautiful British Columbia, Canada. And at one hour and 39 minutes of Monday's show, when talking about Christmas movies,

Luke says the Netflix animated movie Klaus, with a K, won an Academy Award. Luke, you're dead wrong. Klaus was nominated for Best Animated Feature in 2020, but Toy Story 4 ended up winning the honor. Luke, your mileage. It was Oscar nominated, that's right. Your mileage may vary when it comes to the Academy Awards,

and you may surmise that this rectification is neither here nor there, but you were simply dead wrong and should take the L with grace. BC, I wish you all the success in your elevated CBS career moving forward. You have become an invaluable part of MK and no one else could have done what you have done to make MK what it is today. Thank you very much. You'll be greatly missed and just know that you are leaving an MK legacy that will never be duplicated, wishing Luke BC and Nocita

and all their families a joyous season. A thankful donk, it's T.J. Luke, you taking that L or what? Yeah, I'll take it. All right. Thank you very much. Our final one comes from a fella from the islands. They call him Daz, Luke. Back up on that ass and give these motherfuckers a blast from the past.

You think Daz likes to get up on that thing? Cheese Grater style. Thank you. Thank you. Well done. Dad says, Aloha Dongs, and Aloha BC for one last time. on mk well i got a few more in me des on monday show to uh december 15th at 147 25 during have you seen the shit a woman video bombs a live broadcast and yells expletives l t and bc hypothesize on the

city of origin posting philadelphia while that is a good guess the broadcast is from new england slash massachusetts as the lower third has patriots defeat giants and based on other statements made by the reporter about the team's upcoming by week. This is from the 2025 season when the Giants played the Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough. Apologies for being so pedantic, but please know how much I and so many others appreciate MK for the joy it brings us. The levity it provides us when we go through hard times and especially that chemistry between

BC and LT, we will miss you Darily, BC. I salute you, Daz, but Luke is his dead wrong wrong because we dead wronged ourselves in the moment? I thought we did. Yeah, we pointed out that it said Giants, New England, so we knew it was either New England or New York. I mean, I definitely said go birds, but I was just sort of like making a joke about being ornery

in an NFL parking lot. But yes, dirtback fans exist everywhere. But thank you, Das, for always being there for us. We appreciate you just the same. Thank you very much. Our final segment is called Fan Submissions. Let's see which ones made it through the censors this week. uh we've got male viewers yeah yeah you've got mail viewers

all right let's see how many times we can fit saul into a shmedium here with first one comes from mark antoine who says hello donks needless to say i am gutted to see bc leave the show but i'm also happy it will continue despite the huge hole he will leave behind i'm curious as to see who will fill that hole anyway here's a meme i made to cope with the grief I feel knowing that this era of my favorite show is coming to an end. What does that say? Are we finally done

with pay-per-view? So that's Gomorrah. And this is where Thanos in Infinity War is trying to get the soul stone. In order to get the soul stone, he has to kill Gamora, who is essentially his adopted daughter. And

there's a scene there where he has to, or she asks him, you know, what did it cost in this kind of uh like i don't know if it's like a false memory or some kind of image thing but and he has the answer was everything because he had to kill his daughter so in this particular case it's the brian campbell experience and then you and me going tip to tip at the mama awards circa 2021 or whatever that was i want to say that manich sent this in the group chat yesterday shout out manich yes yes all right uh well done people i guess we can only laugh at our

sufferings there mark antoam barrio dosillet says thank you bcccci for your your relentless positivity shine on you crazy diamond appreciate that our second one comes from kim bong who says rip bc he is not dead he's just watching straw weights in peace now actually in person now yeah let's go here are some memes i would love for l t to rate the tat on the last one uh what do we got here first of all it's the worst Photoshop I've ever seen all right so this is the scene in episode three where uh youan mcgregor owen mcgregor wherever the fuck his name is he's talking as uh we one to to anakin and he's like you were the chosen one you were to bring balance to mk not

leave it in this case balance to the force and then he just replies i love straw weights so good here's the next one i cannot read that print look what do you go From the Lion King, this is where Mufasa is trying to explain to Simba, what part of their kingdom is theirs. And he says, everything the light touches is a part of B.C.'s personality, to which Simba replies, but what's that shadowy place over there? Oh, that's, that's L.T.'s personality. He is miserable and self-loathing. That's where the hyenas were in the elephant graveyard, I believe. All right. Well done. when are you having a nice convo with your wife then remember there is strawweight MMA online

okay and do we have one with a rate that tad or no do we not those were the three we got from Kim Bong-il maybe it didn't make the cut but those are the three okay Kim Bong would add as North Korea Supreme Leader I have already approved these for the show

Cheers Kim Bong-il Thank you very much Hello let's go to Fernando he says you're breaking our hearts you beige bastard hoping this art i made will eat you up inside let's see it oh oh come on gps has been there all along okay they have been my wow my work life talk about shots fired we should have saved her for this segment yeah that is wow yeah okay okay i see it there that's good oh well done i mean none of that's true but it's funny Well done, Fernando.

Appreciate you. Next is who, let's see, who's the, what's the name here? No name? We got no name? It says, if you show all of the memes I make, please keep my name anonymous as I would like to have a job. Okay. This person anonymously writes, well, fuck, like many American families, this marriage did not make it. And it is up for us, the MK children, to absorb the trauma.

In all seriousness, BC, some of these memes may look like I'm making fun of you for leaving. On the contrary, congrats, and I wish you good luck on your job. I wish your family well. I will miss you and your skits and bits. The last two and particularly the last one probably will not make it past the North Korean censors. I still would like to see the live reaction to those, if possible, even if they're not shown on a screen. Remember, these are all in good fun. What do you got here, Long Island?

Fair, fair, LT. That's a fair trade, yes. Yep, big, yep. I don't quite get the chain of custody, but Appie catching some strays in there for being in his underwear and your typical MK pregame preview. LTLT providing technical analysis with the mean-looking dragon, Chuck describing the storyline with the mean-looking dragon,

and then the less intense one, B.C. with Dale Sr. and other skits and bits. Yeah, that's about right. Is that all of them long out, Luke? Yeah, this was also the guy who sent the ones that we showed in the text. Dude, we didn't, we had that Dale senior one. I left for like five weeks straight this. They did not get past the North Koreans. Come on.

There was a Dale. There was a Dale senior meme that B.C. was in favor of. I was okay with, but the North Korean censor said no. Oh, wow. This person unnamed says, may all your horrors questionable fitness supplements and potential predatory loans be loyal. Wow. That is great stuff from the people. Morningcombat at gmail.com.

If you want to reach us before the end of my run here, or just in the future, say hi, send your fan subs and dead wrongs. Say hi to Mikey as well. Also, today's episode is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings. The Crown is yours. Luke, I received the DM yesterday from one David Appleton, who said, as a latch stitch effort, BC, can you please get the final documentary made so we can see the London footage. um will that ever come to light because we not only shot in London

with all the people that were at that show we then shot a few times in our last days in the uh in the bunker in Jersey city when we were talking about the end of showtime and then we also shot a year later when we were going into the metal arc studio for the first time yeah i'm not one for predictions about what the future is going to look like anymore. I'll just say, I hope, you know.

Matt Snyder, if you're watching, can you jump in the chat and just say yes or no? What if I just don't get paid for the final month and we just put that into the doc fund? Yeah, right. Like you're going to take that? No, I'm not going to take that at all. It's just being nice, but yeah, there you go. Let's see what Matt says. Uh, your call. All right. My call on that. Yeah. I don't even think that's enough to Jake, Jake von Amsterdam, very expensive. Very expensive. He is, he is, uh, a, uh, a. an expensive little diva is what he is. He's worth every penny.

He's great at it. Yeah, he's an artistic. I didn't say he was bad. I just said, you know, costly. All right. That's our show. We do want to remind you about the merch. If you are lamenting me going away,

you might as well purchase our shit for half off. The BC farewell sale at morningcombat. Chop gets you 50% off. All BC clothes, posters. Dude, you know what my biggest lament is? We never got that Reggie Jackson T-shirt live on the site.

damn it damn it Reg it never happened but you can head it to our website you can get our December exclusives the Master of the Universe T-shirt the poster get it autographed as well get it 50% off if it's got BC on it

morning combat dot shop new releases every month all proceeds go to the three of us here on this show thank you very much LT anything to say as we head into the weekend here I have

a Jake Paul watchalong tonight against my better judgment but I'm going to do it and then I'm going to sleep for like an hour and then I'm going to get in my motherfucking Uber to go to the airport. Well, let's update the people on what I have left and what we have left together here.

So this Monday are we doing a live remote show you from Columbia? Yes. Okay, so that's Monday, December 22nd. Now, Friday, December 26th, are we pre-recording something?

Yeah, we'll have something for the donks, but that might be a pre-record. Okay. And then we'll have Monday, December 29th. I'll be there for that, too. Friday, January 2nd. That one, I'm out. That one I'm out, yeah. Are we, I think we're pre-recording something special.

Yeah, we'll probably be pre-recording for something out too. And then mark your calendars. I'm not going to be broadcasting that day. The final BC and LT episode of this. iteration of this era is Monday, January 5th, live in studio there in Manhattan. So check that out. I say this era, Luke, because it's not goodbye. It's goodbye for now. You have no idea what's going to happen to both of us in the next few years. You know what I'm saying? It is a wild and unpredictable time. I mean, we could be door-dash in the same neighborhood one day. You

never know. It seems to be headed that way. Luke Nocita, thank you for your efforts behind the scenes today people should check out your live stream as well as Luke's tonight they should watch both two screens mute one you know I'm not going to say who's to mute but you know yeah you should they should mute yours also

prop quiz dropping in 40 minutes Mike Heck versus 8 Kaylee go check it out That's a fun one. Is this part of a new bracket for season three? Yeah so this is the third matchup of the bracket fourth matchup will be next week and then we start narrowing it down into the 70s. Jose Young's

defend his title before that or only at the end of season three? He'll defend at the end of season three unless I need to plug him in quick for a, you know, a match up here. I mean, L.T. You know, I got, you know, I got skinned alive by Jose Youngs. And, you know, I didn't want to be there to watch the end of it

either. Can he be beaten? Sure. Sure. I bet he can. But Seguera's good enough. I think Seguera can do it. Seguera could do it and I recorded an episode that's going to air next week with someone. I'm not going to spoil who it was, but I think they're going to be the person who can take on Jose.

There you go. There you go. But I definitely think, I mean, don't get me wrong. I think Jose is a formidable competitor, but there might be others. Okay, okay. Shout out to everybody watching today.

We always appreciate you guys. All right, seven years in, the show's not going away. Follow us like us. You'll be seeing us. Okay, that's the deal right there. MK Forever. it's not just a show it's a it's a feeling it's a movement it's an it's deep down in the cheese grater you know what i mean full fist and then spin it yeah that's it all right for l t l i l i'll

it's bc signing off take care of yourself up here put your mental health first have a great weekend let's hope jake paul lives tonight on netflix uh enjoyed if that's your type of thing we'll be back on monday one of us live from carthagena this is an i heart podcast Guaranteed human.