MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Jake Paul vs. Tyron Woodley | Weekend Recap | PFL 6 | Zabit Magomedsharipov | Ep 163

Episode Date: June 2, 2021

The boys are back with a packed show... Jake Paul will be fighting Tyron Woodley in a professional boxing match. Is this the right move for both fighters ()? Next the guys recap Nonito Donaire and Dev...in Haney's wins over the weekend. Which win was more impressive ()? PFL has announced who will fight on their June 25th card and the guys break that down (). Zabit Magomedsharipov is still dealing with lingering health issues and doesn't plan to return until he is at 100% health (). For our last topic the guys look ahead to a weird weekend in combat sports (). That's not all though... The guys close out the show with HYSTS (), Fan Submissions () and Odds & ends (). 'Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit: store.sho.com   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat  To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 it's the second of June and we are back ladies and gentlemen it is time for morning combat hello everyone my name is luke thomas i'm one half of your hosting duo from cbs sports my cbs sports bredrin on the other side of the screen the king of connecticut next to apathy uh which makes me self-titled the one and only bc brian campbell's up, player? He may be apathy. I'm more melancholy, though, without the infinite sadness. So, Luke, happy to be here. Hump Day, No J Wednesday. But, you know, today it starts, Luke, okay?
Starting point is 00:00:57 You know what I'm saying? It starts. All right? Go South Beach. We coming. We coming, okay? Okay. We leave on a metal bird today.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Right after the show, we head to Miami to go watch the pro wrestling of boxing. Right? The sloppy is Super Bowl. We could find, Luke. Okay? This ain't just gas station hot dogs. This is with gourmet toppings on it. So we're going to check it out, Luke.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I'm excited later today to step out the front door of the plane like a ghost into the fog where no one notices the contrast of white on white and put my foot down in Miami and, you know, start this, okay? MK Doc cameras, live stream shows, celebrity crossovers. This will be the biggest week, Luke, in the history of Morning Combat, whether you're signed in for it emotionally or not. And to prepare, Luke, I don't know if you've noticed,
Starting point is 00:01:52 but I've got more artificial hair dye on my face and head than a Ken doll right now just because, you know, I want it to fit in down there on South Beach, Luke. I look like an adult coloring book. Did it take off 10 to 15 years? You look
Starting point is 00:02:08 tan. You look tan. You look nice. Your beard still looks like you're transitioning from female to male, but otherwise it's alright. Wow. That's as good of an insult. There's pain involved in receiving
Starting point is 00:02:24 that, but well put. You know I well, you know, I love you. You know, I you know, I love you. You know, I love you. Yeah, man, I'm excited. Listen, here's the thing. Here's the only part where I'm struggling. BC, maybe you can help me. I told you last week I had a conversation with my wife about it.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Listen, man, I'm going to Miami in June. I get to go hang out at the Versace Mansion tomorrow. You and I are hosting a red carpet special for Showtime there. Then you, me, and Brendan are hosting the fucking weigh-ins on Wednesday. We get to chill, maybe do a little extra work on Saturday. We're going to be doing room service diaries. Like, dude, what can I complain about? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Here's where I'm struggling. I'm excited for the opportunity for what it means for this show. We're doing big boy shit this week. I'm grateful and I'm excited for the opportunity for what it means for this show we're doing big boy shit this week I'm grateful and I'm excited but I'd be lying if I said I was like super pumped about the mystery of the fight that's where
Starting point is 00:03:14 that's where I'm a little bit lost I think that's fair that's fair that's fair they're gonna have to prove to you Luke since you ain't paying for this shit they're paying you to watch it they're gonna have to prove to you thatke since you ain't paying for this shit they're paying you to watch it they're gonna have to prove to you that this can be an entertaining spectacle really right yeah something like that i mean here's the other part though i will say bc i was thinking about this too i thought mayweather mcgregor was probably going to suck and it was a silly fight but it didn't
Starting point is 00:03:39 suck to say it would suck would be wrong it was fun no no in it was fun. In the fight, it felt real for a little bit because Conor was kind of overachieving. There were moments there. Yes, and as Max Kellerman said, that fight was as good of a version of itself as it could have been. Agreed. And then I thought Floyd versus Tension
Starting point is 00:03:59 was going to be terrible, Naskawa. And Floyd just kind of stomped on him, which made it entertaining so I've been wrong the first two times Floyd's done something like this so I'm not going to declare it will be bad I just want to be honest I think there's a lot of fight fans who feel the way I do just being fair who are like I just don't understand I just understand what it's all about and so we'll see what happens this week maybe they can get pulled in maybe I can. And so we'll see what happens this week. Maybe they can get pulled in. Maybe I can learn something new. We'll see. What a wild week, though, Luke, okay?
Starting point is 00:04:29 I mean, Tito Ortiz steps down. Jim Lampley's going to call fights on Triller. I mean, this is a wild week for combat sports, so it kind of fits in perfectly to all things Mayweather, Paul, Sunday night, 8 p.m. Eastern only on Showtime, pay-per-view. Was that a good enough promo? Do I get the check now? I think you get the check now. Real quickly, let's remind everyone, thumbs up on this.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Hit subscribe if you're a new subscriber. Of course, we haven't pushed them that hard this month, but certainly if you are new, welcome. We do this usually three times a week. We'll have a whole lot of stuff planned for you guys this week in Miami. Remember, the fights are on Sunday, not Saturday, so there's going to be a lot of activities that happen the next three, four days. If you want to follow us on social media...
Starting point is 00:05:08 Real quick, you mentioned real quick, but you kind of glossed by it. That's fairly large breaking news. Luke Thomas, the beige bastard himself, Brian Campbell, and big brown Brendan Schaub, Friday's weigh-in. That's fairly large news, Luke.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Not a tidbit, not a footnote, okay? All right, bro? No, it's pretty big, dude. Listen, you and I, we did a weigh-in with Paulie Malignaggi for Garcia versus Redcatch at the Barclays Center, which was awesome. I had never done one before. It was great.
Starting point is 00:05:39 But, dude, you can say what you want about this fight, but the magnitude of it is huge, and the opportunity to host the weigh-ins with you guys, all of us together, it's a pretty big deal. MK and Brendan Schaub hosting the weigh-ins. Not going to be mad. Like I said, not going to be mad about it, dude. Super not going to be mad about it.
Starting point is 00:05:58 So that'll be a lot of fun. Hide your women and children just the same, okay? Your girlfriends, okay? Because this trio this trio is something if you want to send anything to the show for either dead wrong or fan submissions
Starting point is 00:06:15 we still take those all the time morningcombat.gmail.com is the place to go by the way if you want to try Showtime you can go to showtime.com get a 30 day free trial if you like it you can keep it if not you can go pound sand of course any pay per view you don't have to have Showtime. You can go to Showtime.com, get a 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can go pound sand. Of course, any pay-per-view, you don't have to have Showtime. Even if you have Showtime, you still have to pay for the pay-per-view.
Starting point is 00:06:34 We're just saying Showtime produces a lot of great content and cuts us checks. So we have to say that they, in fact, produce a lot of great content, but no one seriously did. Well, Luke, I'm not only the hair club president. I'm also a client. I consume the shit out of Showtime products. I do, too. Yeah. I do, too. No, it's great. club president i'm also a client i consume the shit out of showtime products i do too yeah yeah i do too no it's great i mean it's it's hard to convince people of that when they make you a check but like honestly it is pretty great uh and then what am i forgetting obc do you want to tell some
Starting point is 00:06:54 folks about some updates related maybe to merch maybe to docs what do you got yeah i'm i mentioned this was a big week in combat sports that went beyond just the mayweather fight and all that stuff uh and it goes beyond some of this great free content we're giving you in between, which was, you know, go to Showtime Sports YouTube channel. Check out my at length interview with Logan Paul. Go to MK YouTube dot com slash morning combat. Get my interview with Gervonta Davis, head of his return. Also, Shakur Stevenson, I just sat down with. That is hot off the presses.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Check that out and you want to check out merch 2.0 because we haven't been able to vouch for our own words lately and protect this dream and tell you it's really happening you know is is santee claws real at the end of the day they're telling us yes they're telling us later this week will be the launch of the new morning combat merch 2.0 website whatever you want to call it. International shipping, all new designs and good stuff. They're going to roll those out in phases but the first batch
Starting point is 00:07:51 is there for you later this week. Luke, you can argue I have news though even bigger than that. What's the bigger news than that? Morning Combat documentary 3.0 the oops baby of this trilogy right now, Luke, um, it's gonna go live, they say tonight, some say tomorrow, in the next 24 hours, somebody that
Starting point is 00:08:15 works for Showtime is gonna just press play, and Luke, uh, it's not what we expected, going to the Mohegan Sun for Bellator 258. Some pitfalls along the way. This might turn into a little Caddyshack 2 as one of the worst sequels of all time. But I'm into it. Big time. I'm also in it. Big time, Luke. Okay?
Starting point is 00:08:35 So, we have a clip to throw to. If you don't mind, Luke. I know this could not freaking concern you. I could be talking about my colon right now, Luke, and you would probably care a little bit more than teeing up this documentary. Yeah, I don't care. Okay, let's go to the sample. Well, we are in Mohegan, Mohegan Sun, here in Uncasville, Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:09:09 We're here for Bellator 258. Yeah, we're doing coverage. Yeah, so Luke, we also filmed two-thirds of a documentary the other week in Bellator. You know, I'm not supposed to be wearing this stupid t-shirt. This is not, I'm not supposed to be in this room. But a member of our crew ended up being in close contact with someone who tested positive for COVID. There's also people on set who are anti-vaxxing non-readers. Morning combat team left the fight sphere there at the Mohegan Sun
Starting point is 00:09:46 on Friday. This wasn't the way the doc was intended to be filmed. Intended to be filmed. Film. Film. Wow. The sizzle on that, Luke. The frickin' sizzle on that shit. Right? Did you feel that? I watched about seven or eight minutes of it yesterday. Wow, the sizzle on that, Luke. The freaking sizzle on that shit, right? Did you feel that?
Starting point is 00:10:08 I watched about seven or eight minutes of it yesterday. Not like seven continuous, but I fast-forwarded a little bit. It's incoherent, and it's just you rambling in a parking lot in Puerto Rico. There's probably better ways you could sell it, Luke. I will say it's abstract. It's experimental. It's experimental. It's really like, you know, remember Bob Dylan put out that country album? Like, it's one of those situations, Luke, where it's like they stopped playing guitar in favor of horns, you know? But if you go down that road, if you get down with that, three might wet your fancy.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And also, Luke, there's a, you know, spoiler alert. There's a big tease that, you know, four is already, the production is ready to start tonight so uh maybe you'll be in it maybe you won't care but uh thank you look come on it's a little better than like high school production of our town I mean this is this is art here right well Jake is a talented editor yes I agree you are just a rambling town drunk uh that you know I drunk. You should not take credit for his editing skills. I'll say that. That is fair. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:11 All right. So we'll keep everyone updated on that. Just like and subscribe. You'll get it. And we're going to be on Miami later today. Oh, Luke, one more thing, even more important. I finished another painting. You want to see it?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Sure. Okay. Are these Doritos going in your belly and then fire going out of your rectum? You know, you can take... The message, Luke, is up for interpretation. So you can take from it what you may, but I hadn't thought about that.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And unfortunately, I guess this could be the new Doritos bag. Yeah, probably, Luke. Okay, that's great. All right. But, you know, Luke, it did come from the feels on the inside. So my kids say it's my best work ever. So we'll see what happens in the future. Back to you.
Starting point is 00:12:00 There you go. All right. Well, speaking of best work ever, let's talk about Showtime's next big fight. Well, the first one of those, of course, will be Logan Paul taking on Floyd Mayweather this Sunday, which we will be there for. But the other one that was announced or at least reported yesterday, I think confirmed, in fact, Tyron Woodley, fresh off being released from the Ultimate Fighting Championship, is going to take on Jake Paul on Showtime, August 28th. I don't know if we know the location, but the bout will be at 190 pounds. And of course, it is not going to be an MMA bout.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It is going to be a boxing bout. Now, BC and I sent back and forth our instant reactions to each other via text. We kind of had a little bit to say about it. But now that we've thought about it, BC, for about a day, let's get into it. What is your biggest takeaway from this news? Yeah, I'm going to hit that one second. Just on the date there, it was announced by Jake, like you said, it was August 28th. Steven Espinosa, though the Showtime sports president, did tell Dan Rayfield yesterday that the date is going to change because there's also a Showtime championship boxing card that same night.
Starting point is 00:13:07 David Benavidez is on it, so it'll be on another date in August. But that aside, Luke, look, this is big. And I get that there's a certain part of the population, again, that are like, can you guys get into the mixed martial arts part of this show already? Can you stop selling your own stuff and then talking about the Paul brothers? But it is really big news, and we can't yet take seriously, of course, as traditional boxing as Jake Paul, for real. I mean, he's had three fights against non-fighters, but this is a larger step forward in the idea, Luke, of that.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Us critically being able to know how good he is. And I also think it's really entertaining potentially on the way, not just the little beef they had in the locker room. You know, Jay Leon Love was a part of that in Jake Paul's corner as well. But just this is on paper. Look, if you really if you if you put aside the oh, I'm better than this type of crap and actually look at the matchup. It's actually sneaky good matchmaking, Luke, both to give Jake Paul a chance to really show where his boxing game is at against somebody in Woodley who's obviously athletic and has knockout power, but in an MMA sense and didn't rely on his boxing and certainly used the threat of his wrestling
Starting point is 00:14:12 to make his boxing look a little bit better, this could be a fun competitive fight. And I think it's the perfect one to take, a perfect bridge, to get Jake closer to actually fighting quote-unquote real fighters. So, you know, uh, let's not, let's not miss one thing. As I throw it back to you, both Prall brothers did say with sincerity that, you know, yeah, they're, they're trollers. They're, you know, whatever, uh, they're opportunists, all that, but they also want to try to bring, uh, you know, big fight
Starting point is 00:14:41 purses to fighters who they feel like deserve it in the sport in general. And whether that's taking shots at the UFC or just being truthful, it is nice to see someone like Tyron Woodley who, yeah, I know he's 39. I know he just lost a bunch of MMA fights in a row against elite competition, but he has a chance to make the biggest payday of his career probably by far and maybe be in a competitive fight that he could win, potentially. I don't know. I also like to see that, too, Luke. So I think there's maybe a little overplay on how bad this is for boxing, when in reality, it's bringing a lot of attention to boxing. And it's a, you know, we don't have going back and forth. It's a bubble that can only last so long before being burst.
Starting point is 00:15:19 But it's a good-ass fight in that context, Luke. It's a pretty good-ass fight. Well, here's where I'm at on this, BC, and i wonder what you make of this i tried to a couple things first of all we did cbs sports uh hq this morning and they asked me like what do you think of what the paul brothers have done and i'll say this you know if you'd send me the told me the beginning of the pandemic when the pandemic's over but you know we're on we're riding a nice wave of vaccination numbers are coming down everyone knows the story if you told me at this time that jake paul would have a signed boxing match on showtime with tyron woodley and floyd mayweather would have a signed boxing match exhibition or otherwise with his brother i'd be like you're out of your fucking mind there's no what like that's
Starting point is 00:16:01 never going to happen and it did happen like here's why i'll give those guys credit i am not consumers of their product you know i'm not i'm not ever going to think transformers is a good movie right that's just not the way i'm built but to put themselves in the position that they have not just for this weekend or for that weekend in august but to be able to build on this little operation that they've built, not only is that not a small achievement, it's insanely lucrative, and they have retained control over their own rights and everything else throughout the entire process. It is remarkable. You just, on that level alone, you could say whatever you want about their boxing ability, humor their haircuts you name it say it i don't i will
Starting point is 00:16:45 not really get in your way but their ability to situate themselves frankly on some ways as the center of the combat sports universe or at least for a short time anyway that is pretty remarkable i will give them credit for that certainly never saw it coming never thought it possible and yet here we are you need to acknowledge that and i certainly will and i want to fight itself something else unless you what's that go ahead i was going to throw in quick to add on top of that that like i don't want people to look at us and go oh man wow they've really sold off they're really taking it now look at how much they even love this fight weren't they shitting on this with trailer i don't know that i love this fight you have to also look at it at the realm of what we were complaining about when
Starting point is 00:17:29 it was under triller for me it was more about the presentation of a of putting a extra darkened shit stain on boxing itself which already has a bunch of shit stains it was sort of like treating boxing as a joke i wonder if you know, a big part of Jake's motivation in coming to Showtime was the idea of he wants to be considered a legitimate fighter, not without the tag of former YouTuber, you know, whatever, but like he wants to be respected as a real boxer. I think, you know, maybe for him, the presentation of what's going on in Showtime boxing and pay-per-view is a little more serious. And I think that's true.
Starting point is 00:18:03 These are being presented as serious, Luke, they have the because they're famous guys who are going to fight but because also people hope to see a competitive matchup i think if this can only be a shit we talk about the bubble bursting the bubble is going to burst when either paul brother just gets you know beaten multiple times in ways where you're like okay the magic's gone right or it could get burst that if this is too much of a shit show, obviously, if this doesn't even look fun and competitive and it's just all about shit, the burst is good. You know, the bubble is going to burst quickly. Um, so it was what I didn't like about the presentation of Jake against Ben Askren. Uh, you know, at some point you do
Starting point is 00:18:40 have to understand, you know, you put it, you say what it is, you know, we know what this is, but I think it's a different, when you present this more real people will care but one thing i talked to you about luke as it pertains to the actual fight i think this has potential to be fun and competitive if they're not unless it's just an early knockout and you you really promote you know you really see how much jake has improved um the bubble is also only going to last as long as these fights are like well it is kind of, but it could be a really fun and exciting fight, right? I mean, that has to end up being part of it. To me, this is a match making more in that direction.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I mean, certainly more than Floyd versus Logan even. Yeah. Yes and no. I mean, listen, I saw our colleague Marcos Vijaygas over at Fight Hub TV, and he was saying, you know, Triller's putting on real fights now. And he wasn't saying it pejoratively. He was just sort of talking about how the rules have been reversed show triller's going to put on this uh teofimo uh mandatory and that you know here's showtime doing this kind of um you know floyd and and logan thing and then paul and then woodley and i'm like well yes and no
Starting point is 00:19:37 triller's core business is essentially that or at least the core business is the app but insofar as their boxing business is concerned their core business is the app. But insofar as their boxing business is concerned, their core business is this kind of celebrity weird kind of boxing thing. They can put real ones in there, but it's not really what they do. And when they do it, they grossly overpay for it, as you saw. Showtime announced their full schedule of the year and then just added this after the fact. So there is a difference in the way in which the businesses approach it, but in fairness to both outlets, it's only a difference in degree, not really in kind. They're kind of
Starting point is 00:20:11 the same thing. Now, I do agree with you, though. This is a little bit more competitive. If we're playing a game in the pool, you're like when you were in summer camp and they won't get killed, be blindfolded. They play Marco Polo in the pool. You got to shout out Marco and they shout out Polo and you kind of get closer. You just try to figure out where they are. Get a little bit closer, get a little bit warmer. I feel like this is Paul is taking on, at least in this case, like with Askren, it was retired athlete who had a bunch of injuries, who was never a good striker and also kind of old and whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Now he's getting one that's got some problems. We thought he should retire from MMA. He is a real athlete, but he's long in the tooth and boxing is simply not what he does. The only part about this BC is I can't get in the way of this one. I mean, trains left the station on this too. The one thing about this is on the one hand, look at what Tyron Woodley said. You know, I'm going to do this for combat sports and I got the biggest purse of my career. Ben Askren said the exact same thing when fighting for Triller. I'm going to make the biggest purse of my career.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You know, I want to be careful about this. I don't know that there is any accumulative effect to all these MMA fighters signing up to get stretched or lose in some kind of way. Because I do think Jake Paul probably deserves to be the favorite, which I know might be controversial to some, but I don't think it should be. So, like, on the one hand, I am very happy for these guys, that they're finally going to get money and feel like the stars that they should have been feeling like for a long time. You can see, man, there's a little pep in Tyron's step, you know, when he talks. At the same time, I can't help but feel like they're almost, almost prostituting their
Starting point is 00:21:52 equity that they've built up through hard work just to get that big paycheck. It doesn't speak well of MMA. It really doesn't. Yeah, I don't look at it as a stain on them, even though you certainly can. I see it more on the state of MMA, as you're saying. But there's one thing that that does potentially bring, though. And again, I want to harbor on that, the idea that like if it's just Jake against overmatched celebrities, like again, that bubble is going to burst soon, you know, or you can stretch it out a little, but no one's going to care. The fact that the MMA athletes are so hungry, as long as they're not just being put up there as a pinata,
Starting point is 00:22:25 because they are so hungry to actually get a payday this large and feel like the star, as you mentioned, that also could spike the competitive pool and make them come in looking to win. And, Luke, if they come in looking to win, they're either going to make competitive fights or lose spectacularly in trying. And, you know uh that's a
Starting point is 00:22:45 that's a combination that's a little spark a chemistry experiment that's working has potential to work at the moment you know what's funny bc every time we go on other people's shows i know i do it all the time and sometimes you do it you tell me about it i get asked all the time like doesn't this speak ill of boxing and i'm like well in some ways right like if you're making all these other fights why are you making them it's a lot of different factors it's celebrity culture to speak ill of boxing and I'm like well in some ways right like if you're making all these other fights why are you making them it's a lot of different factors it's celebrity culture it's it's you know the summertime calendar to a degree and the other part of course is that um I think boxing doesn't make enough of the relevant fights that people want to pay money to see
Starting point is 00:23:20 so these weird celebrity half permutations end up taking the place because even though they're bizarre and don't mean anything they're actually a little bit easier it's easier to make Jake Paul versus Tyron Woodley than it is for Bud Crawford to fight Errol Spence I mean that shouldn't be that way that tells you something is kind of fucking broken in the whole process but the truth is as much as that is true bc and i i absolutely maintain that is true the reality is this speaks terribly of mma pay that they can't wait to line up sign up get out of their oppressive contracts so they can make sick coin fighting dudes who make armpit noises you know for their podcasts like you can't blame them.
Starting point is 00:24:05 They got a family to feed. It's a huge check. If anything, it speaks bad of both sports in some kind of way. It really does. It really does. Yet on the complete flip, or no, not a flip side, kind of in tune with that, is like, you know, I get the initial reaction by the hardest of boxing hardcore to be like, get this shit away from us.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You know, and I saw the tweet, you know, by Kevin Aioli being like, you know, Showtime used to be the home of hardcore boxing, a hard pass on this, even though, like, obviously we can pick that criticism apart really easily and just show the Showtime boxing calendar on regular Showtime this year, which has been, you know, one sort of, for hardcore's only, you know, thriller after another or potential to be a thriller. So but it's it's a rising tide raised all ships thing. And I don't see how people don't see that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 You're not taking you're not taking away from fans that were on the fence about if they were going to buy the Gervonta pay-per-view or on the fence about whatever and suddenly take away their money that they could have used for that. Now they won't watch the other fight. It's actually going to bring in, potentially in that short window bubble, a lot more interest money fans to the actual sport because it reminds people of why they used to really get excited. I'm not saying that's a ship that carries you and Noah through the flood. I'm just saying, if anything, it's the potential for a plus plus in the end, Luke, rather than a somebody go to
Starting point is 00:25:30 the New York Times and write how boxing's dead because of this. And it's like, well, no. Yeah, I mean, yes, writing how boxing is dead or whatever is silly. Like, dude, boxing's in pretty good shape, all things considered, for the most part. When you really begin to look at it as a global sporting enterprise, it's actually okay. But here's the thing. This is why I keep bringing this up. Dude, UFC does the
Starting point is 00:25:47 same thing. I'm not mad at them for it anymore. It's not my thing, but understand something. UFC has a core business and it's the highest of the high level. That's what they do. But on occasion, when the timing is right or they need a little boost or just a chance to make money, they'll sign a James Toney. They'll sign a Kimbo Slice. They'll sign a CM Punk. And they'll use them all in different ways. James Toney once, Kimbo Slice, the ultimate fighter. And obviously CM Punk, they gave him a couple tries against guys who,
Starting point is 00:26:15 like Mike Jackson, I respect very much. But we're talking about on the lower end of the level of competition that they would ordinarily allow. Some of it worked out. Some of it didn't. But their core business remained the same. This is no different than that. That's what this is.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Showtime's core business is boxing. It's what they do. But on occasion, shit like this falls in your lap and promoters are going to want to make money off of it. It's just the way that it's going to go. Here's the question I have for you, BC. There's been some debate about the odds. Who should be the favorite, who not?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Inside of MMA, I'm looking around and everyone's like, it's a foregone conclusion that Tyron's going to win. And let me say this. Tyron at his peak as an athlete is just orders of magnitude above Jake or his brother. Period. We're talking about a guy who won good level, high level championships at the NCAA Division I division one wrestling championships like you know he didn't win a national title but he won a divisional title big big deal he's an a plus
Starting point is 00:27:10 athlete but bc he is long in the tooth and he does not box who should be the favorite no no it should be jake and i think people also need to realize this the potential size difference too and the fact that jake's been operating in that like 190 to 200 sort of sub-cruiserweight area for boxing weight classes, you know, technically light heavyweight, but pushing really close there. And, or maybe, you know, I actually forgot the exact window of where cruiserweight ends at the moment. It's right in that midst right there. And yet, Tyron was fighting at 170 in UFC.
Starting point is 00:27:44 So you take the age and freshness advantage the size difference and you know the fact that he's been doing actual technical boxing and game planning with legitimate sparring partners and trainers now i'm not here to you know obviously completely vouch on how good he is through three fights against various novice celebrities but uh you know he seems to be further from a technical standpoint. At the end of the day, that's how these type of, you know, one-off crossover type things are going to be won unless the person on the other side can land an absolute bomb.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And, you know, Woodley has that potential to do that, no question. But that instant transition into just traditional boxing with no kicks or the threat of them or takedowns to set it up. I don't see how Jake couldn't be the favorite, you know, from a, we want to make money here as, as, as, uh, as line setters and, you know, odds makers. Here we go. A breaking. Here we go. Uh, Dana White spoke to Mike Swick. Here's what he says about Tyron Woodley. This is from UFC president Dana White quote, Woodley doesn't look like the Tyron Woodley of the past who was putting everybody to sleep. He hasn't won a fight in three years. He's going to be 40 years old, but I will give it to Jake Paul. At least he's stepping in there with a guy
Starting point is 00:28:53 who can punch. See, this is what I mean, BC. There's a lot of reasons to be skeptical about, A, exactly what's, everyone's like, oh, I know what's going to happen. How do you know? You have so many unknowns here. We don't really know how good Jake Paul is. We don't really know how far Tyron Woodley has fallen. We don't know how well they're going to train. We don't know so many of these things. But I will say, again, in the warmer, colder discussion, this is a little bit closer for Jake's path to seriousness. This is something like, oh, no question. It's a little bit more than when Kimbo fought Tank, but it's up there. Seriously, it is. But yet you also see, as we just laid out, the brilliance of the matchmaking from the standpoint that Tyron can look, I mean, he looks young and he's jacked. He's going to look a lot more dangerous than maybe he actually is when they finally fight.
Starting point is 00:29:39 But Luke, I don't want to live in a sensitive, overly PC world and get all up in each other's feelings here, but was it necessary for Uncle Dana to drop that hot steaming doogie on Woodley on the way out with those comments? I mean, he could have just been like, you know, eh, whatever, you know, he's 39, but good luck to him, man. I hope he goes out
Starting point is 00:29:56 there and wins one for our sport and knocks him out. He's like, no, actually, I'm going to have him sit there and I'll defecate all over him first and then show you that he's damaged goods. I'll say this, man. Listen, if we're gonna book fights like this you know uh any promoter if UFC is gonna book fights like with CM Punk if if whatever if you're gonna book fights like this you can't run from the criticism you just kind of have to let it breathe you have to kind of let it be what it is people are going to have their say about it yeah could dana have been nicer about it sure is dana wrong no not this time but
Starting point is 00:30:32 sorry he's not i mean woodley just went out on his damn shield for them i mean you know you know it was it was desperate acts of a desperate man right but like i don't i don't live in a world i mean a little respect on the way out okay fair enough he could have done it i can't say you're wrong he could have done it but i prefer to live in a world where people yes being friendly is an operative order but if the truth is uncomfortable well then the truth is just uncomfortable you know that's just the world we live in dude he's not saying anything that's not wrong, is he doing Showtime a favor with that, no, probably not, he's probably sticking it to Tyron as much as he is to Showtime, okay, that's also the world we live in, but I'm just saying, dude, if you want to book silly fights and make a shit ton of money, which everyone's going to,
Starting point is 00:31:17 fine, that's awesome, but if people are like, yo, bro, these guys are not, you know, these are not tip of the spear level athletes, you should say that too, it's okay, it, bro, these guys are not tip of the spear level athletes. You should say that too. It's okay. It's fine. Learn to live with it is what I say. Did you just Tom Cruise me there, Jack Nicholson, and tell me I can't handle the truth, Luke?
Starting point is 00:31:34 I think there was some sub-tweeting going on right there. I didn't mean it in that sense. I'm just saying you got to let people. With fights like these, I don't like it when a real fight is made and someone gets undermined because one is more popular than the other how many times have you seen that BC where you go on someone's show and they ask you and they don't know anything about the other guy but he's super good but just not popular that's when I think correcting the record is actually kind of important but if you're
Starting point is 00:31:58 gonna book fights with people who got cut from the UFC after not winning what 20 rounds yeah that should be part of the that's part of the record I got too quick on the same topic and I agree with you on that regard um in terms of uh Jake Paul in the in the the type of matches you know you saw Michael Bisping just came out and say he actually turned this fight down he claims that he was offered what like half a million and I think that's a bad look given what we know about his eye now even though you could argue maybe that's even an even uh you know more competitive fight potentially from a boxing standpoint than woodley but what level if jake wins this under good circumstances do you think you should go next like how close
Starting point is 00:32:34 do you think we actually are it's like one thing you don't want to judge jake too harshly because it's his fourth pro fight right but on another side of it how quickly do they have to get up to like legit kind of active or older boxer yeah so this is where you have to like level this up you in his prime ben askren was a real athlete by the time ben got to him you know after a literal hip replacement i think he was pretty far down the path of not being that he was i don't even know if he was in shape for that fight you're gonna get something a little bit different with Tyron where I think at a bare minimum, he'll be in shape. And then two, he actually has real punching power. But, you know, there's obviously all the other factors we've talked about. So what I want to point out is,
Starting point is 00:33:17 where does he go from this? I don't know. But you can't go backwards. You already took on one real athlete. Whoever ends up being next, if he wins, has to be not only a real athlete, a little bit younger, not only a bit of a striker, a little bit better of one. And they might find the profile of some former MMA guy to do it. I don't know. But it's hard to predict exactly who will be next. But what you can say is they can't go backwards without problems emerging. They have to build on what they have and then move forward with it. So I guess we'll have to see. All right. Well, we'll come back to that here for the next three months. So congratulations, MK viewers. You're going to get a lot of that happening. All right. Let's go to this, though. By the way, it'll be a 20 by 20 ring with 10 ounce gloves. OK, interesting. All
Starting point is 00:33:59 right. So topic number two, let's go to a bit of a recap here. Yet more boxing for our audience that hasn't seen us since Friday in a live show. BC, let's talk about it first. On the Showtime end of things, Nonito Donair, in less than four rounds, inside of the fourth round, stops and KOs Nordin Ubali. 38 years of age, becomes the oldest bantamweight champion, I believe, in that belt's history, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, he already was. Certainly.
Starting point is 00:34:29 He already was from a few years earlier, and he just extended that mark by three more years. I mean, it's insane. Amazing, amazing job. And dude, Ubali just could not handle the counterpunching and, frankly, the power of Nonito Donera. What did you take away from this victory? I mean, this is one of those feel-good stories as a boxing fan, no different than Chocolatito Gonzalez's recent comeback into title form when we thought his career was over.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Let's not forget that there's always been a Pacquiao comparison for Donair, both being from the Philippines, but he also is doing a Manny-type thing where it's like, Donair already stamped his Hall of Fame resume like a decade, like eight years ago, back when he was number two pound for pound, four division champion, all that. He's had some sort of what looked like, you know, gravy moments, dessert on top, title opportunities, post that in different weight classes.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And yes, he would tend to lose against, you know, the Framptons in that level when he moved up. But to have, again, a Manny- twilight chapter like this where he's legitimately viable and winning world titles and not just how impressive this knockout was from the standpoint that like he had the game plan he knew the angles he had to cut for Ubali's awkwardness and he went in there and calmly delivered like brutal violent shots after another to get him out of there it's it's wild that he can still be this relevant and still be wanting to fight the very best and calling them out. Remember, he went as
Starting point is 00:35:50 high as 126. Now he's back down to 118. He's making these weight cuts with ease. He's talking so much about clean living and health is wealth. And let's not forget, he was one of the originators who signed up for the volunteer drug testing a you know a few years back when we when vada came around and they were really trying to clean up the image of the sport uh luke feel good moment for an old timer one of those better wins he wants naoa inouye the monster a second time in fact luke that's all he wants the fact he was able to make that a fight of the year and break inouye's eye socket a year and a half ago at that age is wild. And now he wants a second cup of that.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I mean, like, Lute, they don't make people that special who prioritize legacy above everything else anymore. They don't do it. He's a rare breed. And, dude, that fight, Ubali didn't look, I'm not sure how to describe it. I wouldn't say he looked shook, BC. I don't think that's very fair. But he just could not get into a rhythm against Donair,
Starting point is 00:36:52 who looked like, you know what it looked like when they fought? That these two guys had sparred for a lifetime. And that they both kind of knew exactly what was going to happen. They were just waiting for the clock to tick to bring it about. They both kind of had this sense of its inevitability. And you've got to feel good for a guy like Donair, 38 years old, as we indicated. Power's still there. Smart's all there.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I was blown away. I wasn't expecting this at all. In a way, I believe, even tweeted afterwards, BC, that he was inspired by this victory that he took he took delight in the victory of his previous opponent for all the things that it represents do you think there's a chance they could fight again sometime in 2021 I think you have to make it because Donair wants it so badly he's a he's promoted by Richard Schaefer it's one of the the rare big names left that Schaefer has at the moment Schaeferfer's done very well by himself. This is a guy advising John Jones for folks who may have forgotten. Yeah, so I don't know how long the deal he signed
Starting point is 00:37:49 to be in the Showtime pay-per-view silo. I don't know how the business ramifications of that work, but yeah, I feel like this is a fight that can be made, even though Inouye's tied with top-ranking ESPN now. You saw how great it was the first time and the meaning it had. And when you have a No., right now, in a way, he's number two pound for pound beyond Canelo for me. He's every weight class he's moved up to,
Starting point is 00:38:10 he's knocked people out cold and walk right through them. He found his dance partner, his defining career dance partner for the moment in Donair. And to see the respect, you know, that he has knowing that he walked through that busted eye for nine, broken eye socket for nine rounds and kept that fight as you know enthralling and now he wants to do it a second time i mean again win win for for the pure boxing fan out there i got steven espinoza and company please
Starting point is 00:38:35 make the go out of your way somehow make this work we need to see this fight uh and then the other one devin haney defeating jorge lina. Now, I have seen this, interestingly, BC. He gets the decision win. I believe it was unanimous. I don't have the scores in front of me. But there were times early where Haney, 21, 22 years old, I believe, looked extremely good. Fast hands, great angles.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Linares, if he wasn't getting hit, he was getting out-angled and confused. He didn't know where Haney was coming or going. But over the course of the next six rounds, it was a little bit of a different fight. Linares finding a moment to hurt him, to wobble him, didn't land as much volume, but found sort of the in-between spaces to really cause problems for him. Had him backing up a little bit, fighting outside of his style at times. So you're getting a bit of a mixed response. I've seen some say, BC, that Haney's performance should be applauded. At 22 years old, he got hurt, he showed smarts to power through,
Starting point is 00:39:34 and he beat an older but a decorated guy in 35-year-old Jorge Linares. I've seen other ones say, this guy's a fraud, and he has been a fraud for a long time, and the media is pumping him up to be something he's not. Where is where is he in this one which side of the uh the fence are you i mean it's it's it's you gotta you gotta plant your flag right and and share which side you're on because like i've never seen a win this polarizing luke but for all the rightful uh reasons that you just said right there i mean like for as great as haney is at 22, he's got all the skills. He's got everything. He had to really overcome the last two fights in which he won with ease on a boring level. Didn't take chances. There were a lot of questioning of him. And, you know, you can argue
Starting point is 00:40:14 it's not rightfully so, but his last two performances, you know, we're telling everybody, man, this Haney guy's the best. He's the next big one. He's a part of that group. You got to go watch him. And, you know, he didn't get credit or love or respect for the safety that he fought. So he took that seriously and brought this into this fight. And then you had the perfect dance partner in Linares at 35 who said he had the best training camp of his career and looked like a million dollars and patiently waited until his moment and then made this a dramatic, fun fight. But it's so polarizing. Which side am I on? I lean more to the former in this. What's the former? It's the fact that
Starting point is 00:40:50 Devin Haney needed to show something huge to remind us how brilliant he is. And for 10 rounds, Luke, he showed that. Did it fall apart quickly from the end of round 10 to the final bell in which he was almost on the verge of losing points for going out of his way to hold Linares and getting a bended running start at Linares's midsection that looks really bad there's no question about it and he was wobbled after round 10 walking back to the corner but Luke to answer your question as long winded as I possibly can with passion fuel and raw emotion as people await for this show's rundown to come back around to MMA. I will tell you here, Luke, that it's more great and potential for greatness that we
Starting point is 00:41:34 saw in this than concern. But that concern is, you know, he hung on to win this fight, Luke. But I don't think it's outweighed by how freaking brilliant. He's a complete package. Those 10 rounds were against an elite foe in a real step-up fight, Luke. Were you not as entertained and moved from the angles and the combos? I mean, that's everything you want in a fighter, that guy we saw before he got put on ice skates.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I think everyone is partly right here. When people say Haney is brilliant, you know, there's rounds where you could point to him and be like, is this not brilliant, especially for a 22-year-old? And the answer is 1,000%, yes, 1,000%. I think you had texted me after, like, the first four rounds and being like, dude, Haney's on fire.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I was watching, too, and what did I text back? Yep, sure is. He looked awesome. And then the flaws showed up. Here's where I'm going to split the difference. He's 22. 22 years old. Now, boxing maturation happens earlier in someone's career. We talk about, for example, Vittori coming to the UFC at 23, and then 27, he's a lot different. But that's because the skill acquisition happens a little bit later in their athletic life,
Starting point is 00:42:40 and there's so many different things you have to worry about. It just takes a lot of time for that all to come together. Boxing's a little bit different things you have to worry about. It just takes a lot of time for that all to come together. Boxing's a little bit different. They start a lot younger. It's one discipline. They usually get to a level of technical maturity earlier on. That said, at 22, he still hasn't reached all that, his full potential of maturity and ability. So while I think that he's got some real flaws that you just can't ignore, I do think that
Starting point is 00:43:04 his critics should pump the brakes a little bit, and let's see what he looks like when he's 23, 24, and by the time he's 25, BC, I think we'll have a much clearer sense about whether he's going to be everything we think he is, some lesser version of it, or whatever he ends up being. So I'm not going to ignore the bad parts, but I'm not going to ignore the good parts either, and that 22 next to his name, I really think people got to slow down. Just give him a little bit more time. If by 25,
Starting point is 00:43:29 he still looks like this, which is still good by the way. But if he looks like this, okay, then you can say, Hey man, he's just not going to race to that next level. Fine.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah. But now it's not that fair. It's not that the concerns aren't like huge sort of potential blind spots. They are right. Like he didn't know how to deal potential blind spots. They are, right? Like he didn't know how to deal with being hurt. He didn't know how to survive. He didn't have those natural instincts.
Starting point is 00:43:51 There were some bad things you saw. But I really want to double down on like there's future pound-for-pound king type of skill and setup and placement. We applaud someone like Ryan Garcia, right, Luke, who is explosive. But he's really like 90% offensive. I mean, he's at his best when he's constantly coming at you Haney stepped up his output to a higher level than we've seen in a while but Luke did you see the way he also not only retained the the the sharp combinations and technique of the power punches but the ability to duck back and get out of the way in head movement and athleticism like Like, it was next freaking level.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Maybe not as impressive as Teofimo against Lomachenko, but it showed you that this guy, this is a rare breed right here. You know, but like, only the future will tell, okay? Let's give the champ a chance. Yeah, I mean, if you ranked the four kings in terms of how they did when they faced each other, you'd put Duran last, right? Duran lost whenever he faced any of the other kings. I think I got that right, right?
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yeah, except for the fact that he beat prime Sugar Ray Leonard and gave him a legitimate loss, his first real loss in the first fight. So it's like, is that enough to overcome the no-mas and the fact that he got handled by the other guys in a division over his head in terms of size, right? So Haney might end up being there, but, you know, not that I'm comparing him to Durant in that sense, but I'm saying he might still end up doing great things,
Starting point is 00:45:13 but, you know, he's got tough competition, but he's got some time. We're still at a murky stage. All right, we move now to what's coming up this weekend here, BC. I don't really care too much about this topic, but we'll get to it. PFL announced their June 25th card. BC, only two, well, it's more than two names. Mohamed Ousmane is back, although he lost in his last fight. Fabrizio Verdum, by the way, his last fight was turned into a no contest.
Starting point is 00:45:38 He takes on Bellator vet Brandon Sayles. But Kayla Harrison taking on Cindy Dandois, the Belgian, I think. Not a super competitive fight. They're doing the best they can with that weight class. Let me ask you from this standpoint, Luke, and I think you were going down that road of, I'm trying to give PFL complete benefit of the doubt because I think they've overgiven on what they promised.
Starting point is 00:46:03 They've surprised me. I'm into it. How much of a threat at all i mean is dan doit a better shot of winning this than leslie smith against cyborg no probably a lot worse um you know dan doit has some decent grappling but you know it would take a listen if i i I saw Matt Serra beat St. Pierre. But Matt Serra was, you know, high-level Henzo Gracie black belt. He had had some good wins and some good competition against some tough people. But obviously that was quite surprising. So I just mean to say, you know, I lived through that.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I've seen insane upsets. Okay, is it possible in that sense she could do something? But, dude, the level, I can't. Here's the big difference. It's less about mat time and what skills they have per se, although that's obviously a big component. We're talking about two completely different levels of athletes. I mean, dude, I've had Kayla Harrison in studio.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Kayla Harrison will fuck you up fast. She is a real athlete. Are you talking about me personally or people like me? Both. Both. Dude, she's not to be trifled with and then when you add in the fact that she's the most decorated judoka in american history you know how good she is on the ground she's working with mike brown and att yo they're gonna it's gonna have to be a fucking miracle for her to lose and i'm not even blaming pfl right you got what you got with the weight class and whatever it's fine but
Starting point is 00:47:24 well look kayla harrison is is must see i think she's become must see tv every time and you add her to lose. And I'm not even blaming PFL, right? You got what you got with the weight class and whatever. It's fine. Well, look, Kayla Harrison is must-see. I think she's become must-see TV every time and you add in the recent change of personality to be so outright and almost cocky and calling for things that she could have her own almost, you know, quasi-Rousey 3.0
Starting point is 00:47:40 type run here of straight dominance where you're kind of just tuning in to see how quickly she could destroy people. So it's not not a you know a stance against the matchmaking you know it's a tournament system they're doing what they're doing regular season all that but uh i'm interested just the same even if it's not as jumping through the screen luke um so thank you pfl for continuing to uh enter this conversation right luke this larger mma one of things we actually care about yeah somewhat uh by the way co- event, Ali Asayev taking on Henan Fajera. Ali Asayev hasn't fought since 2019.
Starting point is 00:48:11 One of these sort of standouts through the PFL. Very, very good fighter. I believe this will be heavyweight contest. He's probably worth paying attention to. And then again, Muhammad Usman, Caitlin Young, longtime Invicta matchmaker, competitor herself is actually on this card. So there's some decent names and some things worth paying attention to,
Starting point is 00:48:28 but not the most exciting event I've ever seen in my life. Luke, did you watch episode one of the UFC's ultimate fighter, Ortega versus Volkanovski last night? Yeah, no. I mean, what on earth? I mean, I'm not even doing a bit here. I'm trying to demean it. If people like it, go watch it.
Starting point is 00:48:45 But absolutely no, I did not watch that, no. I'm trying to commit to watching it. I haven't started, of course, so maybe I'm 0 for 1. Just because I want to follow the storyline of Ortega Volkanovski as close as possible. From a personality build and setting the storylines for this fight and all that kind of stuff. I hope that part's entertaining, Luke. I don't know if it can keep me there, though. you know what was the problem for my ingestion of that luke and you know you can call me anything right i didn't watch scarface until what like two weeks
Starting point is 00:49:12 ago for the first time do you know what i watched half of for the first time last night luke uh debbie does dallas no the godfather i don't know if you've ever seen this uh italian uh mafia uh instant classic of maybe dude i don't know the internet the internet either is listening to you or they recommend to us the same thing because right after you were like yeah i saw scarface for the first time i turned on netflix and it recommended to me scar scarface so either that's the same wreck or they're listening to us that would probably probably listening to you right now. But I will say, Luke, that, I mean, again, it's like saying, hey, I haven't had a chocolate milkshake in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Oh, here's one. Oh, my God, this is like sex in a cup, right? I mean, this is amazing. Yeah, Luke, I'm halfway through, and it's the greatest film I've ever seen, like, probably by far. I mean, look, this is like the 92 Dream Team of lead acting, right?
Starting point is 00:50:03 Like, this is, like, something I couldn't imagine. You know, it's like, look, this is like the 92 dream team of lead acting, right? Like, this is like something I couldn't, you know, it's like, again, you're being this ignorant. I'm 42 and I've never seen The Godfather. I mean, seeing, I'm only halfway through it. I'm telling you, someone should have shook my shit, you know, 25, 30 years ago and was like, it's a rite of passage, you know, as a film fan. Like, watch this. It's like, you know, here's a cure for polio right like take it you know eat it whatever uh but luke it's it's like way better than i assumed it would be by the way pfl is um on a the 25th of this month not this weekend all right bc
Starting point is 00:50:39 you're not even it's just a complete no-sell. You're not like, yeah, man, Sonny's a badass. If I could be anybody in this world, I'd be Jimmy Conn in 1972. I know this might come as a surprise to you, but I need to see The Doctor before I go to Miami. And I don't, not the most current movie to discuss, maybe. Well, I respect, Luke, your need for health, and I want you to meet me in Miami later tonight. Please don't, please don't sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Don't Bogart the art here. I mean, come on, you know. I'm not trying to do that. But okay, but let's get to this one because it's kind of interesting. Another MMA topic, so our fans will love it. But it's a sad one or at least an uncertain one. How about that? Certainly uncertain.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Zabit Magomed Sharapov, who has been one of the top featherweight, not merely prospects, but contenders for some time now. He's not coming back anytime soon. So according to his manager, Rizvan Magomedov, he has health problems, Zabit does, specifically with his immune system. Magomed Sherepov will not return to the octagon until these problems are resolved. These problems prevent Zabit from fully preparing for fights. In fact, in the near future, Zabit must postpone surgery to resolve these problems.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And then it will be clear whether he will be able to continue his career. First of all, a couple things here, BC. Number one, if they can't do surgery on you because they're worried about your immune system, that's serious. I mean, I don't know that it's like a condition that's untreatable, but that's bad. That's really bad. And the second thing I'd say is, BC,
Starting point is 00:52:10 obviously the goal is to get back into the octagon. They're making it clear. But they're also making it clear that they don't know when it's going to be or even if it's going to be. How do you react to this? This is really, really, really bad. Like, let's not fool around. Like, this is not fool around.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Like, this is scaring me. I was trying to stay almost ignorant of the realities of the story when the last update broke, kind of alerting us to the, you know, that he's still having issues. You know, I wanted to just ignorantly, like, you know, say, you know, put my fingers in my ears, Luke, and hope that it was, you know. I remember when Kudrasov came out and Ramzan and was just like, hey, Chimaev, it's all in your head, bro. You know, pack it full of cortisone and suck it up, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And that's not right. That's not what I'm saying here. But I was hoping it was going to be one of those type of turnaround moments for Sabih. I mean, nobody believes in his potential more, Luke, to be a UFC champion tomorrow than I do. And I really thought that win or lose when he finally got that chance would be some of the best theater we could see in this division because of how great his potential is. Now we're certainly putting that to the to the backseat in terms of our care level. Now it's like, what's the future of this guy's health? Obviously, Luke, it's so soon after the impact of COVID-19 on athletes and, you know, not not to lean into that. The political side of, you know, people who think it's just the flu or people that overly, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I'm not trying to get into that. I'm just saying, like, we haven't seen the full receipt that this will, you know, happen to certain athletes that were hit hard and unfortunately up to this point aren't recovering, aren't going back to normal after dealing with those circumstances. This is very troubling to me. And, you know, forget the fighting future. I really hope this guy's okay, Luke, because, you know, this is scary for anyone who's had it in terms of that regard. Yeah, again, I don't know to what extent COVID is related,
Starting point is 00:53:56 partially related, fully related. I don't, we'll have to see what the situation is as time goes on. But certainly you don't wish for illness like this. I don't know if we got to it or not, or I can't remember it anymore at this point. But we also saw, and again, I think it's for an unrelated relative to Zabit medical ailment, Gordon Ryan having to indefinitely postpone his career due to some kind of illness. Dude, health is wealth, man. As somebody who's had a couple of health scares this past year and not taking care of myself in my late 30s, and now that bill has come due, I'm no athlete. I don't have the more serious issues these are. But I just mean to say, when the reality of your health smacks you in the face, you begin to realize everything else is kind of immaterial. If you don't have health,
Starting point is 00:54:38 you don't have anything. So A, I know everyone here would wish certainly as a beat, whether he can get back in the cage or not, an end to his medical ailments. And B, Jesus Christ, man, this is terrible. Like, I don't even know what to say because I don't know how far along in the process he is. I don't know if they've fully and properly diagnosed it. I don't know if they've given him treatment for it and he's ignored it. Or I don't even know. I don't even know anything other than to say i hope that he's
Starting point is 00:55:05 young enough and that there's good enough care that they can round the corner whatever the the nature of the ailment might be because dude they can't do surgery on you because of your immune system that you're talking about going back to the 15th century in terms of what medicine can do for you um not great not great at all. No, no, no. All right. Speaking of the weekend ahead, my godfather agendas in favor of real news like this, Luke, not good at all, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Keep going, Luke. You got a doctor to see. What am I doing? I'm going to no-sell your godfather thing twice. All right, looking ahead to the weekend, we're going to talk so much about it this week, BC, I'm going to kind of skip it here in the rundown, but of course, I want to remind everyone, Sunday,
Starting point is 00:55:46 not Saturday, Sunday is going to be Mayweather versus Paul. I don't know what we're doing on fight night, BC. I guess we're going to do a post-fight show. I don't really know. Yeah, we're 1,000% doing a post-fight show. Okay. But then tomorrow, as I mentioned,
Starting point is 00:56:02 catch us at the Versace Mansion, and then Friday we're going to be doing the weigh-ins. There's been a separate weigh-ins on saturday by the way for everyone on the on the on the undercard um so be on the lookout for that but there is ufc on saturday bc rose and strike jairzinho takes on augusto sakai um your level of enthusiasm for this one bc very low very, very low, comparatively. It's not like I hate the fight, but it's just, you know, it's Cousin Oliver on the Brady Bunch, you know, in terms of the comparison to the overall schedule at the moment. But, you know, yeah, Barry Williams, I'm still coming for you,
Starting point is 00:56:38 as the viewers keep reminding me. Justice for my sister. But, Luke, I will say that, yeah, I don't care a lot, as much as I want to see where exactly Jairzinho is going to be at based on this fight and uh you know there's some questions to be answered all that good stuff Luke but uh are you do you have your x's and o's out uh have you made both are coming off of losses you have Sakai coming off of the Overeem loss you have Rosenstreich uh coming off of the Cyril Gan fight, that are trying to get right. I think that the hand
Starting point is 00:57:06 speed of Rosen Strike, especially to the... Augusto Sakai, from who he was in Bellator to now, is massively improved, but he's still a little bit by the numbers, whereas I think Rosen Strike is a little bit more free-flowing. That should make a difference in terms of shot selection, which should make a difference in terms of who gets hurt more over the course of that fight. But Sakai could take him down, in which case, you know, Rosenstreich's get-ups are not that great. So that's a winnable fight in either direction. The one that I've got my eye on, BC, no one talks about this kid,
Starting point is 00:57:35 and every time I've seen him, I've been impressed, even when he had a couple tough moments. And he's the real deal in terms of prospects. Miguel Baeza is going to take on Santiago Ponzinibbio now Ponzinibbio was gone for two years came back fought the leech lost and so now he's taking on Miguel Baeza Baeza is a black belt young guy that his uh teammates pejoratively but you know almost still lovingly call him chocolate thunder I believe or some Puerto Rican thunder I gotta get his name right here. I want to make sure. It's Caramel Thunder. Excuse me, Caramel Thunder.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Dude, he is awesome. And even when he's had tough moments, he has battled through. He's undefeated. Here's his UFC run. On the Contender Series, he beat Victor Reina by unanimous decision to win. It was a catchweight fight. His opponent had missed weight. Then he debuts against Hector Aldana.
Starting point is 00:58:21 TKO's him in two. Matt Brown TKO's him in two. Takashi Sato submits him inside two. He's from MMA Masters. Smart kid. Hard-nosed fighter. I like him a lot, man. I think he's got future title contender written all over him.
Starting point is 00:58:35 That's a tough fight. That's a tough-ass fight for him. So I'll be interested to follow that recommendation and watch it. Luke, I tend to care about the sloppier stuff. Walt Harris versus Marcin Tybura in the co-main is certainly going to tell us where Harris is at, but am I wrong to be this excited about Tanner Boser against
Starting point is 00:58:51 Alir Latifi? I mean, that's the kind of sloppy shit I'm into. Also, Montana De La Rosa, the women's flyweight in potentially that preliminary main event against Lipski. Luke, I've been watching her development and she's becoming a good fighter, Luke. Francisco Trinaldo on the prelim cards,
Starting point is 00:59:08 taking it on Muslim Salakhov. That should be fun. And then if you're into it, Makwan Amirkhani back on this card as well. The rest of it, you can take it or leave it. Also, coming up this weekend, BC, I don't have a strong opinion about it. I can't imagine our audience gives a fuck
Starting point is 00:59:23 about the vacant WBA interim heavyweight title fight between Daniel Dubois and Bogdan Danu but if you'd like to tell them about it you may no WBA stop scamming the system with all these extra belts just stop like like like fucking stop it already like like you know what I mean well more on that later in the show Luke good all right real quickly let me get this read in. Hey, Morning Combat listeners, Luke Thomas here, and I want to let you know about what's on CBS Sports HQ this week. As always, CBS Sports HQ is the network to start your sports news day at 8 a.m. Eastern, by the way, with morning buzz, an hour of highlights, news, and all the day's needs to know. And come back or leave us on all day at 6 p.m.
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Starting point is 01:01:02 and then, you know, hey, kick a lasso. It's great. And all that stuff, Luke. hey, Kit Colosso, it's great, and all that stuff, Luke. Wait, that wasn't a repeat of that thing, right? I was just having fun there with that voice, Luke. Yes, you were not karate chopping the air to show your anti-Asian hostility. Yeah, you were instead,
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Starting point is 01:01:29 What are we doing here It's pretty cool Stand up so they can see the bottom Because there is red at the bottom Yeah not bad Yeah that's cool Not bad at all That's a good one that's a great shirt
Starting point is 01:01:44 I love it Alright BC we usually do it on Mondays That's cool. Not bad at all. That's cool. Yeah, that's good. That's a good one. That's a great shirt. I love it. All right, BC. We usually do it on Mondays. We didn't have a Monday show. It's time for Have You Seen This Shit. Take it away. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:56 There's just too much shit to do the wheel right now. I got to round this up. I thank you, everyone, for populating my DMs with this. It's the wild, then the wacky, the inside and the out, whatever we say ahead of time. You know, it's weird videos. It's Have wild, then the wacky. The inside and the out, whatever we say ahead of time. You know, it's weird videos. It's Have You Seen This Shit? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:02:10 My rear end. Oh, God. A special holiday week one. Luke, have you ever heard of unbeaten British junior welterweight Harlem Eubank? Well, we'll know him now from this knockout. Good God. Was it a check left hook as the guy was coming in? he just sent his ass to the land of wind and ghosts like that was like reverse smelling salts it's like you know he tasted that
Starting point is 01:02:31 it was overlook i mean he was he was out upon contact so uh we'd mentioned luke uh devin haney's uh polarizing victory that brought love and concern here's's Ryan Garcia, his amateur rival and hopeful future foe, ripping him on the internet. Didn't, didn't. He slapped you. But I'm sorry, Devin. I would have KO'd you. He slapped you.
Starting point is 01:02:59 But I'm sorry, Devin. I would have KO'd you. Didn't he just take a mental health break from the sport? Yeah, yeah. Yes, he did. I mean, I don't take that lightly. Hopefully it was sincere and he's going to do good. But they got to make that, Luke.
Starting point is 01:03:15 They're both with the zone. Make the fight, right? You got to make that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to do that one. Good God. So let's keep the train rolling. Luke, I know you got a hard-on over gable stevenson like
Starting point is 01:03:26 everyone else he won gold at the pan am games and he's just throwing dudes i mean this is just you know dude they can't they can't these these motherfuckers in latin america and canada you just take the just take the l y'all are not beating this kid he is it is oh look the guy he's wrestling is from Columbia. You think in Columbia they've ever seen a guy like Gable Stevenson just run through their ass like this? No chance. No chance.
Starting point is 01:03:54 This motherfucker chops off heads to take necklaces. I mean, y'all don't want it with him. Just tap. You'll see much more competitive matchups in the crowd at sporting events, which is a good transition period. We had a few of them here, Luke. Two chicks at one time at the old brand-new Comiskey, Luke.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Check this out. Let's see. Oh, wow. She's got a guard, though. Let's see. Let's see the guard. Dude, you know what it is? It's like a game of Twister where someone won't give up.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I had left hand red. No alcohol was consumed, Luke, in the sparking of this fight, I'm sure. Hold on, before you go to the next video, we should talk about this for a second. Dude, people are on edge. Airline flight violence is up, where American and Southwest will not serve alcohol. I don't know how recent this clip is but NBA games have been a show crime is up across the country probably the world in fact uh because there was lockdowns basically everywhere
Starting point is 01:04:57 dude I'm going out of my way to be like extra nice to people what does an extra thank you or please hurt this world I'm not trying to fist fight someone at the at the line at macy's you understand i'm trying to get you right people are ready to go zero to 60 and you know there's obviously some uh parts of the pandemic run that were that were very tough on people financially mental health wise all that so uh uh it feels like luke remember in high school my wife thinks i'm Luke, remember in high school? My wife thinks I'm making this up. In high school, when it was a full moon, there would be like 10 to 13 fights that day. Like, I don't know what the connection is, Luke. No one's out back barking at it. But, I mean, it would like, there would be something in the air.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I feel like there's something in the air, you know, every day now. Would you intervene here? No, I don't know. No, I don't know. No, I don't know. Hell no. Hell no. I mean, you know. Fight it out.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Fight it out. I would stay away from four guys wearing Luka Doncic jerseys, Luke. Check out this parking lot fight after a Mavs playoff game. See, everyone's in line trying to leave. No, Witzke was better, bitch. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, you didn't say that, right? Oh, you fat fucks.
Starting point is 01:06:13 What are you? Oh! Counter right from hell right there. Yes. Look at that guy trying to break it up. The other Luka jersey guy was like, this is enough. Bro, look at this.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Look at this. I've been here. Have you ever gone to a sports venue and you parked? I have. And then you're just in line forever trying to exit because someone didn't pay their ticket ahead of time. So they have to put it in the thing where the thing goes up and down, but it's not reading their card. And then they have to call the person to come help them with the machine. I fucking hate those people.
Starting point is 01:06:43 So I don't know who's who here, but hopefully it's the guy that got slept yeah blue wow yeah yeah waiting this is why no bullshit no bullshit i haven't gone obviously i was like i haven't gone because it's been the pandemic but no bullshit i used to go to caps games and wizards games all the time because tickets were well caps were expensive but wizards were pretty cheap dude every time i go i take the fucking metro or i'm taking an uber i'm not parking at the well then the verizon center because you get shit like this you get people who don't know how to live in society pay your ticket ahead of time fuck faces well i've never done that so you can you can you can suck on that one luke all you want but uh yeah we got to get
Starting point is 01:07:22 out of this it wasn't the only violence we saw in the NBA over the past week. Luke, check out this flagrant foul from Anthony Davis. I saw this. Dude, understand something. The game had just started. When he landed this, the score was – who's that, Jay Crowder? The score was 0-0. He had to stop the game because on the first real attempt of a shot, which by the way
Starting point is 01:07:45 Anthony Davis missed, he kicked this guy straight in the balls. Can you imagine being kicked in the balls by like a seven footer like this? That probably fucking hurts, man. Dude, it looks a lot like Mitrione Tim Johnson won, right? I mean, this is tip on tip right here, Luke. All right. Let's keep it going here. Look,
Starting point is 01:08:01 sometimes, Luke, your balls are overheated. All right. Check out this guy called Donati, the soccer player in Germany. This is how he cooled off, Luke. I mean, who hasn't had swamp ass on a summer day, right, Luke? You've never done this move before?
Starting point is 01:08:21 I mean, in front of another woman. Luke, Luke, I mean, in front of another woman. Luke. Usually the fluids are going the other direction. Luke, while Tyron Woodley will bear all against Jake Paul some night in August, he also was in the news this week when he bared all in My Lee's new R&B video. Did you see this art Luke for about 10 seconds? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:48 It's very, very sensitive, very, would you say scandalous or just sex? Hey, Luke, you know, it's,
Starting point is 01:08:57 I wouldn't call it. It's not scandal what they did, but you know, I don't, I don't, there's lots of things in life life I don't need to see. This would be up on top of the list. Spinoff conversation about a Feastmaster?
Starting point is 01:09:12 That's just inconsiderate. Inconsiderate, Luke. All right, Luke, another four. They're going to save that question when he's up on stage talking to us at whatever event we host for that. You're going to have to answer for it. That's probably fair. They'll probably have the to answer for it. That's probably fair. They probably have the video ready for him.
Starting point is 01:09:27 There's no doubt about it, Luke. Tyron wasn't the only former UFC champion who bared all on social media, Luke. Ronda Rousey's reaction here, like, she should be arrested for this shit. She's got gross tendencies sometimes online, Luke, okay? It's my second favorite meat he's put over the mouth can twitter ban her please okay apparently not let's keep it going here here's some weekend windshield warriors luke uh that you know car windshield should have weight limits luke this is not a you know this This didn't end well. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Big lady.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Wow, man. Yeah, I don't know if she saw off the airbag there, but that's a wow. Wow, you can't hear her. You can't hear her, BC, but Violeta is here, and she's pointing at the screen, and she's going, cow, cow. Oh, come on, Vio. That's not right. All right. Luke, this next clip I think we showed before,
Starting point is 01:10:26 but I laughed really hard all over again. I think it was on last year, but excuse me while I kiss the sky for this guy right here, Luke. This is great. It's just so good. Hey there, footloose, footloose. Kick off your Sunday shoes. Sometimes people don't realize we've had these on before
Starting point is 01:10:49 and they're so excited to share it with me. And sometimes I'm like, you know what? That could probably come back again. Luke, this maybe could have been a fan submission, but there's a follower we have, Jonathan Cordy, who can play a mean jazz guitar. Check out this video he made Every time you are near, just like me, they long to meet, close to you. Look, we started the UFC.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Ah, close to you. It's UFC Fight Night in Vegas. Keep playing. I don't know why the Brendan Schaub pick is there at the end, Luke, but that's some web scream level planning and execution, correct? It's pretty good, I have to admit. I don't know what that guitar is called, but he looks very comfortable playing it. Yeah, I didn't know this guy Cordy was the next Al DiMeola,
Starting point is 01:12:03 so shout out there on playing those jazz licks. Luke, time for some white people, right? They always make us laugh. Luke, we can turn anything these days into a bong, right? I mean, look, first of all, this guy's great. Just look at him, Luke. I mean, he's got
Starting point is 01:12:19 no teeth. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, Jesus. Oh, boy. teeth oh jesus christ oh boy oh boy that's something oh boy is this the uh this this is florida right yeah i know are those volusia county plates over there where is that luke uh yeah i mean this is this is the kind of dude i saw a story once from florida we had a show on my we had a game on my old radio show, BC called Florida man, not Florida man. And they would read us headlines. And there was one it was a guy who was like using an animal to like a bong very similar to this one. But what really got him done was that he went to a park and was kicking swans
Starting point is 01:12:59 in the head for karate practice that got him hemmed up. So here we go. This gentleman right here must be that guy. Some people think, Luke, you're racist because you don't like the crazy white people who show up on this segment every week. No, no, no, no. I'm not racist. I'm just quite hateful against
Starting point is 01:13:18 basically every person, but especially people like this. Well, Luke, the fresh prince is so excited about lifting weights with gloves that he wants to dance for you about it luke just rubbing it in on you right i know people always send me shit like this guy's wearing gloves i'm like yes and they pee sitting down this doesn't change anything oh well you wipe standing up so i wouldn't get too deep in that conversation unlike you i don't walk around shifting my rear end because it's itchy all day.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I'm good to go. I'd like to see you challenged to fight every man who lifts weights with gloves on if you're going to take that stance that hard. Here's another one, Luke. Okay. All right. What am I going to say? I mean, first of all, all those even gloves gloves what are those
Starting point is 01:14:06 are those wraps i don't know is it a video or is it just a still image i think it's just a still from his instagram account i can't quite see because the picture's not great it's possible those are just wraps but when i see comes out i'm gonna have to have a conversation with my look comes out you're the manliest man i know. You've got to let go of the gloves, player. We've got to get you. No one taught this man right. I've got to help him. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I bet you Habib doesn't use gloves. I bet you that. Hardcore. All right, Luke. Look, I don't like, you know, it's summertime, so people are going to, with the loud engines and motorcycles, are going to jack up the noise. But do you have, at some point, does game respect game here, Luke?
Starting point is 01:14:43 Watch this trick this guy pulled off in like a full dresser uh not easy luke yeah do you know what they call them here in this part of the country there's actually a movie about it like a real movie they call the documentary they call them 12 o'clock boys and you see them all over the place doing this i mean this is like common in baltimore i mean you're asking to die it's like free solo climbing yosemite right like you know you're asking to die but this is pretty uh the technique is strong here luke the force is strong i mean he's not wearing a helmet and he's doing something incredibly dangerous if you look i so i wanted to get a motorcycle when i was
Starting point is 01:15:21 like 26 27 and then i looked up the accident rates and the insurance rates uh for like young men uh let's say 18 to 29 or so who have motorcycles dude they all get in fucking crashes one way or the other so luke you know if you like this kind of thing good luck but huge man card points with most of our audience i'm not saying like like i i mean i grew up with my dad owning like you know five six five, six motorcycles at a time. It just wasn't my thing, but people are going to hear you bring up that and, and, and, and they're going to write bad things about you in the comments. Yeah. I don't care about that because dude, listen, here's the thing, riding motorcycles, even me getting tattoos, blah, blah, blah. None of that stuff really makes you a man
Starting point is 01:16:01 and being bad about risk management is not manly unless there's a very good reason to do it. This guy probably has been hit in the head with an axe handle or a tire iron too many times to know better. So I forgive him. Wow. All right, Luke. How about we try something much safer like skateboarding, Luke? All right. Skater dice is in.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Check this out, Luke. It's going to be tough on the old ball and chain guy. Oh, my God. Collect call for you, sir. That is something, right? Wow. You know what?
Starting point is 01:16:37 Listen, if he can't breed later, I consider that a win-win. Are you calling this natural selection Luke let's keep it rolling here see skateboards are not only dangerous for you Luke they're dangerous for your friends as well oh no oh no
Starting point is 01:16:58 hold that that is a chin checking moment right there wow oh look at the oh my god wow I didn't see this part of the video that dude oh there's some hold that shit bro yeah that's bad that's bad
Starting point is 01:17:20 alright let's keep it going Luke this has got to be a reminder of what your life used to be like, living single in New York and D.C., coming back home from the bar. You know, you get knocked down. You don't get up again, though, Luke. All right. She took a whisker drink. She took a vodka drink, Luke.
Starting point is 01:17:39 She definitely took a lager drink. All right. How about the cider? Oh, bop. Just sleep there, young lady. Just sleep on the ground.ager drink, all right? How about the cider? Oh, bop. Just sleep there, young lady. Just sleep on the ground. You'll be all right. Let's keep it going here.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Luke, regional MMA, you know anything can happen. Check out Keith Peterson, the all-business referee who smells like bitches and hoes. Look at this, Luke. Is that Keith Peterson? It doesn't look like him. It was tweeted as that. I don't have confirmation, actually, but it was tweeted as Keith Peterson. It might be.
Starting point is 01:18:07 I'm not saying it's not. I'm not saying it's not. I just don't know. I did very little research to confirm that beyond making a joke, Luke, but look at this fighter with the punch attempt. Your thoughts? Yeah, I'm guessing he lost this bout. It's a full contact sport, Luke, okay?
Starting point is 01:18:23 All right. There it is let's keep it rolling here Luke pranks isn't I mean I don't agree with abusing old people Luke but you love elder abuse look I'm gonna guess it's not the first
Starting point is 01:18:41 time that's happened to her Luke right alright alright there's there's Luke's I'm going to guess it's not the first time that's happened to her, Luke, right? Yeah. All right. All right. There's Luke's grandma. Here's Luke's father every time Luke tries to update him on the goings of his career. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Although he wouldn't even put on the effort to put on the shirt, so that wouldn't work either dude ask me do you know listen does anyone besides my wife and then you know people who come to my house does anyone you would think of my family know that i'm going to miami today or that i'm going at all this week what do you think no no no your brother does no he doesn't care they don't have don't. If I took a flight to the Maldives or maybe even Mars, they wouldn't know. They legitimately would not know. All right. All right. If you committed a horrible crime in which the cameras went to their house, they'd be like, you know, I really talked to the guy in a while.
Starting point is 01:19:39 You know what I mean? I mean, he probably could have done it. I have no idea. All right, Luke. They'd be like, listen, guy. Lots of people have the last name Thomas. I have no idea. All right, Luke, let's keep it rolling. They'd be like, listen, guy, lots of people have the last name Thomas. Don't assume things. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Luke, you know that white people are going to white, so, you know, get some of this, Luke, okay? Let me guess. She's going to take some stupid risk? Yeah. Here's the thing, though, Luke. We could call out white people all the time but this white chick at least had the guts our final clip Luke yeah first of all first of all she's kind of she's kind of fit first of all number one and number two I will say this I'll give her
Starting point is 01:20:16 credit bro she didn't she didn't hide from it she went face first into the fucking water and uh she didn't dip her toe into hell. She was willing to fall in. But Luke, did she have more guts than Dana White that time? And why am I? Let's check out this fan submitted vacation video. Dude, look at these cliffs. They're not that big.
Starting point is 01:20:45 It's pretty small, bro. It's pretty small, bro. It's pretty small. I got to tell you, that episode gets more revealing by the day. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Rachel Ostovich, Luke, who not only competed that jump during that episode, she is signed with BKFC
Starting point is 01:21:01 and is fighting Paige Van Zandt next on June 23rd, Luke. I think it's, is it like the, isn't it a Friday night? Is that June or July? July 23rd. Isn't it the night before Fury Wilder 3? I don't know if you care about that fight, Luke, but that's the shit for the week. There you go.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Well, they already fought. They fought at UFC, the first, I think, one ever on ESPN Plus, but that's it. Yeah. All right. Okay, BC, so we've done that. So, fan submissions, BC. Why don't we get to them?
Starting point is 01:21:32 Yeah, it's a special wild episode of just jamming this stuff in before Luke goes to the doctor. You know, morningcombat at gmail.com is your home for sending in your pictures, artistic works, whatever you got. Here we go. Fan submissions. We've got mail. Pedro D is first.
Starting point is 01:21:53 He says, Hope the third time around this pic gets loaded properly. Otherwise, I tried reaching out to the MK Twitter page because of technical difficulties. Can we zoom in on this? What is Pedro trying to tell us
Starting point is 01:22:03 this time, Luke? Is this a recap of his wire maintenance? His cable management, I have to tell you, looks dramatically better. I don't quite remember what it looked like before, but he's got it going on this time. Well done, sir. All right. Last time he was called out hardcore for that.
Starting point is 01:22:21 So let's keep it going. A nice retribution moment there. Maybe you can unblock more people on Twitter today, Luke, just to spread it. Noel C. says, hi, boys. I've been slowly been introducing my daughter to all things martial arts movies from my childhood. She has since become a big JCVD fan. I've also been teaching her how to kick since she was three. And now that she's older, we have a great time training together.
Starting point is 01:22:42 This is wholesome, Luke. Please have a look at the screensaver she made for her school computer. Keep up the great work, Donks. Noel from Boston, or Noel. Noel. Noel. It's a man. This is Noel, Luke, okay?
Starting point is 01:22:56 That's awesome. The kid looks all into it. Hell of a split there. Well done. Wearing the MK merch like she's Bill and Jen at Canyonlands National Park. Loving that right there, all right? Good shit. Thank you, Noel.
Starting point is 01:23:08 JP sliding in again from Nova Scotia. He says, thanks to Billian for getting my post on the show last week. Really appreciate it. I was messaging with BC after Friday's show, and he told me to send in my merch 1.0 pictures. I attached a couple. Love the content. Pretty awesome. Hope all is well, and you guys stay safe.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Thank you very much, sir. JP for the kind words. Luke, he can fill out a extra large hoodie very well, right? Yes. And by the way, that scene in the background there, Jesus, this guy's living nice. Yeah, Lily Lake, Nova Scotia is where he, so he's probably my fourth favorite Canadian. A little bit overcast but the water looks awesome
Starting point is 01:23:46 I think that's how they get in that area of the country Chance M says welcome to Florida Luke and Brian my wife Kimberly and I were out representing MK this Memorial Day at American Icon Brewery in Vero Beach Florida full on tip to tip in the South Florida sun
Starting point is 01:24:03 if you're ever this way we'd love to buy you a round. We're drinking American Icons Light My Friar Black Cherry and it's delicious. Look forward to all the great content from Chance and Kimberly Morrow. Chance is aka Luke, the greatest MMA fighter you've never seen. That's what
Starting point is 01:24:19 Stephen Thompson's uncle is calling himself. Luke, these are fine Americans, right? I'm sure they after exiting the Capitol steps, they fit into that shmed Luke, these are fine Americans, right? I'm sure they, after exiting the Capitol steps, they fit into that shmedium there. Chance looks good, right? He looks good. It's a nice shirt. I'm glad they're wearing it.
Starting point is 01:24:33 The beer looks tasty as shit. I'm not going to lie. Outside, this is what life is supposed to be like, BC. That's how it's supposed to be lived, right there. Yep. Chance, probably a big Canelo fan, loves all gingers. Big shout out to him as well. Let's keep this going here, Luke.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Mr. Jack says, hey, guys, big fan of the show from Melbourne, Australia. This meme is for Luke. Yeah, dude. Yeah. That is fucking great. Get the fuck out of my house ho yes well done well time to uh animesh s says hey luke showing this younger self-pic from marine days on the live chat i don't know if you know this yet bc but uh someone asked me on the live chat like don't you feel like you're a fair like a human human life version of brian from a family guy and there's a lot of overlap that
Starting point is 01:25:32 you just sort of couldn't ignore so i said yes but in reality what they were doing with this picture was dude i showed a picture of my wedding day and i said it on the chat i'm like look man i'm not saying this is luke rockhold but I am saying from this to now, I'm, you know, I'm aging. Like it's a contest. I'm so fucking washed. It's unbelievable,
Starting point is 01:25:48 but that's a funny little Photoshop. I like it. It's good. One more for you. It's Todd M. He says, this could be the official drink of morning combat, or maybe even MMA.
Starting point is 01:25:58 It goes great with a gas station, hot dog, and some moonshine. Oh, Gaff, you got a full screen that. What is this thing? And they put you on Roy Nelson. Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:11 When life gives you lemons, make them pink. Wow. They didn't even put you on UFC Roy Nelson or IFL Roy Nelson. They put you on Bellator Roy Nelson. Yeah. That's a low blow from Todd M right there. But, Luke, you have to say, with the very artificial brown, it kind of
Starting point is 01:26:27 offsets my country time pink very well here, Luke, okay? A little bit, a little bit. The beard's a little Amish, but, you know, it's okay. That's fair, that's fair. To close, Luke, odds and ends. We're mixing all the elements of each Monday and Wednesday show together here, except for the damn wheel. My odds and ends are easy, Luke. We already are excited.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Manny Pacquiao, Errol Spence Jr., the PBC on on fox pay-per-view i believe is what august 21st can't wait but here's the problem with the belts you already know there's four champions per 17 weight divisions in boxing and that doesn't even take into account the sins of the wba which in most weight classes has a regular champion, an interim, a virtual, a Zoom only, a super ridiculous, a franchise. I mean, they got everything, right? They announced that Pacquiao, who was named champion in recess and then was kind of stripped of his WBA welterweight title that he took from Keith Thurman in his last appearance in 2019.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And now it was given to Yordenis Ugas, who was one of the interim champions at WBA at welterweight. Now they're saying, Luke, that, you know, we can very well reinstate Manny just in time for this fight with Spence to make it a real unification. This is why we can't have nice things. It's just one of the many pimple on the ass of boxing that I could spend a minute laughing or crying about, Luke. But I mean, you got no shame. I mean, why not? Why not get in bed with your friends at the WBC who are probably going
Starting point is 01:27:54 to make a Mayan sun and moon belt for this as well, just to celebrate history. Yeah, that's my two cents on boxing's title situation, Luke.ke yes i like to get you excited when it's four belts undisputed and a unification and uh whatever but uh luke that that imitation leather belt that you wear at funerals is probably more uh more uh you know official than some of these okay yeah okay um for my odds and ends very quickly i consider this quite good news congratulations to the people of huntington beach as tito ortiz has resigned from the city council there now i'll say one thing in his defense and i mean this sincerely i don't know how true the claim is but he has said that somebody had threatened his kids or you know something along those lines his
Starting point is 01:28:43 family anyway if that is true, that is obviously reprehensible and no one in their right mind would ever say anything to support that. Uh, and I, nor, nor would I, however, this guy was in over his head to the most insane degree. He was the worst public servant that probably could have been elected. So they shouldn't have elected him in the first place. But at least now, the balance has been somewhat adjusted more equitably towards people who need competent governance, which he is simply not capable of,
Starting point is 01:29:15 either by his inability to wear a mask, just even to show up to a fucking meeting or attend a place of business and understanding the issues. He found the reading of the issues boring, which he was putting on in social media when he first got the job. So probably better that he's not there than he is there. So good riddance to him. Wow, that was it. There was a nice swift backhand to the face of American justice
Starting point is 01:29:40 and an organized local government and Tito Ort ortiz and his family's reputation so thank you very much luke no again if you're anyone who's threatening his family if that's real then that's insane but no you know i'm not i'm not saying that his record his record as a city counselor is abysmal he needed to go so good i'm glad he's gone um all right that's it that's all i got yeah that's it that's it uh that's it, Luke. But, you know, look, when are we going to put a Room Service Diaries out in the world? So I was thinking about this.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Not tonight, but I think tomorrow night we'll record it because when we record it later in the week, we're way too washed and we don't have any energy. We need to do it
Starting point is 01:30:16 right after the day where we're on the Versace red carpet at the Versace mansion, excuse me. And after we host all that and we see all that craziness. I think that night we should do it.
Starting point is 01:30:27 We'll hold onto it. We'll save it. And then we'll put it up probably on Monday for folks to watch as we travel or maybe Tuesday, something like that. I think that's the plan. You're done with that. I'm down with that.
Starting point is 01:30:37 What time, do you know what time that stream starts? I want to make sure our fans realize this will be on the live on the, I believe the Showtime sports YouTube channel. It's your boys here from morning combat hosting a like a media red carpet gala type event at the versace mansion and uh in south beach there luke and we're going to be dressed ridiculously and going to having a lot of fun while also chatting with floyd mayweather chatting with logan paul talking with
Starting point is 01:31:00 the you know those associated with this fight There's supposed to be some celebrity appearances potentially. So this could be a fun shit show, Luke, ahead of this fun fight. 1 p.m. Eastern. 1 p.m. Eastern. It'll be on the Showtime Sports YouTube channel. I wish they would do a simultaneous one here at MK. I don't think that they will. So Showtime Sports YouTube channel, 1 p.m. Eastern tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:31:24 That'll be Thursday, June 3rd. Me, BC. They're calling it the official main event media availability with Floyd and Logan Paul at the Versace Mansion. So that's where we'll be. That's where we'll be. Two white dads take over South Beach, and they're washed. So more news at 11.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Can't wait. Don't miss our documentary. Nothing says more Miami than two overweight white dads. That's great. Doc 3.0, Morning Combat, Mayhem at Mohegan, whatever they're going to call it. Check for that in the next day. No, next 12 hours maybe.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yeah, our merch line is coming, but you're not going to believe that until you see that. So I'll make you a believer. All right, thank you. Okay, as a reminder, if you want to try Showtime, you can. Showtime.com, 30-day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it. If not, you can bounce.
Starting point is 01:32:07 You've already seen the email. Here we are on social media. We'll be updating everyone on social, whether that's Twitter or Instagram. As you'll note, we have slightly different names between them, so please take a screenshot or give us a follow if you haven't already. Morning Combat, mercifully, same name everywhere. Email, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube, youtube.com slash morning combat uh and that's it for right now we have a ton of stuff to get to this week dude there's gonna be a shitload
Starting point is 01:32:32 of content coming your way we gotta catch a bird i gotta go see a medical md everything's good just getting to check up i'm good to go but i gotta get it in bc i'll see you either tonight or tomorrow morning good sir all right hopefully you got a COVID ass test, Luke. Get that area cleaned up too, okay? Please. Hey, I'm a stander. Don't worry if it's clean back there for me. You are the one with the dirty old butt cheeks.
Starting point is 01:32:55 All right. Sorry, Gaff. For that, for Mocha, for Showtime, for CBS Sports, I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, all your games be loyal.

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