MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - JOSHUA RUIZ II, UFC DC, CHARLO KO AND COVINGTON VS USMAN

Episode Date: December 9, 2019

Anthony Joshua makes about 85 million to box circles around an Andy Ruiz who said he didn't train hard enough and gained too much weight, WHAT? While we can't say his name properly, Rosenstruik had a controversial and impressive victory over future Hall of Famer, Alistair Overeem at UFC DC. Jermall Charlo has an impressive KO against Dennis Hogan, but when will he get a big fight? UFC 245 is upon us and BC is heading out there to cover the event. Unman vs Covington, who is going to win? We get you ready for Saturday night!  Check out our youtube show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzinqq9Y57E   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is Monday, December 9th, 2019, and it is time, donks, for Morning Combat. Welcome, everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. I'm the host of this program alongside my trusty co-host from CBS Sports, among other places, the inimitable Brian Campbell. Brian, we had a great weekend together. We'll talk about it later. We did. You and I hung out. It was like a little bromance there. A little fist bumping, a little high-fiving. No tip-to-tip just yet. That's so gross. That's so gross.

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You're the one suing Gawker, not me. Okay. All right, with that in mind, ready to get going? Let's get going. All right, first things first. It was not the biggest event of the weekend, which we will get to, but the biggest MMA event of the weekend was UFC DC in my hometown. Jairzinho Rosenstreich, or Rosenstruck, however

you pronounce it, beats Alistair Overeem, well, via last minute KO, last second KO, Brian Campbell. Let's start here. I'll actually pitch to you first, so I'll be very curious to get your opinion. Yeah, you pitch, I'll catch. Let's do this. Okay. You always have to find a way to be weird. But the question is this. Now that he has won, it is good news for the division, I would argue. But the question is this, now that he has won, it is good news for the division, I would argue. So the question is, why? Actually, maybe you disagree. Is it good news or bad news? I don't think it's either good news or bad news. I think it's a weird ending to the sense that we booked this fight to find out answers. I know it was last minute replacement,

shout out to Walt Harris and everything he's dealing with in his family, obviously. But you want to find out if Jair Rosenstrick or Strook or Strudel, however you're going with there, is for real. This was the perfect test against a veteran who you're more than likely not going to get out of there in 10 seconds. You're going to have to work. He had to work for four and a half rounds. We saw a lot of things he needs to work on. We saw some pluses. But there's such a thin line in MMA between love and hate, but also between winning and losing, where the narrative out of this fight should have been, could have been, hey, Jair Rosenstruck, he can bang, but he's got a long way to go to be a legitimate title contender. Yet he can break out the meat cleaver with four seconds to go, and suddenly it's like, I want Francis Ngannou next, and suddenly

it's like, yahoo for the division, when I think you have to go back and look at that stoppage. Yes, wielded insane power. Shout out to him. Got it done with no time left. Overeem failing and gassing a little bit in the closing seconds. But if he doesn't do that walk-off like he did after he knocked out Overeem, because Overeem pops back up. If referee Dan Murray realizes the amount of seconds,

doesn't see in Overeem's eyes what he ended up seeing, that goes to the cards and he loses. So I'm not going to come out of here being like, fantastic performance, this guy is the future. Would I love to see him bang against other sluggers like Ngannou? Of course. Yeah, you sound like you're all down on the idea. But it was like razor thin from being sort of a... All right, well, look, hold on.

Let's talk about that. Number one, this is his 10th MMA fight, for crying out loud. Fourth, I think, UFC fight. All of them, by the way, happening in the calendar year. So he took this one on relatively short notice as well, which folks may not forget. To an extent, that makes him warm. To an extent, it's not probably adequate preparation

for this particular opponent, who, by the way, is the greatest kickboxer, certainly in the heavyweight division, to ever matriculate over... Well, he had gone back and forth, but certainly to compete in MMA. Makes him a very difficult challenge, number one. So I'm going to be forgiving that he is not quite as dangerous as he could have been. Two, Overeem is not going to fight the way Arlovsky did, or Junior Albini did, or Alan Crowder did.

This was also his most difficult opponent. And we needed that. We needed to see him against a guy who wasn't going to go away, a guy who was going to be smart and pull out the veteran's jersey. And I agree, the fight was kind of boring. It wasn't that great. Overeem doing. We needed to see him against a guy who wasn't going to go away, a guy who was going to be smart and pull out the veteran. And I agree, the fight was kind of boring. It wasn't that great. Overeem doing what he needed to do. But the reality is, dude, if there is one division that is in desperate need of turnover because these guys last deep into their 30s, it is heavyweight. I'm not happy that Overeem is not going to get probably another title shot. Again, a supremely decorated combat sports athlete where that piece probably is going

to be missing from the puzzle of his career. Still, getting some fresh blood in there is not the end of the world. And by the way, Rosenstreich might fight Ngannou in a very different kind of way. Another point to consider is guys like Francis Ngannou start very strong early and then kind of fade. Maybe Rosenstreich is one of these guys who starts a little slow against the better caliber opposition, not the crowders of the junior Albanians of the world, but then heats up a little bit later. Fourth, I would say, dude, he literally disfigured Overeem's face. Be serious for a moment.

Is that one of the worst cuts you have ever seen? It was brutal. It wasn't just the Robbie Lawler lip line. It went deep into his face. You could see the top of his gums, and you could have just brushed it quite easily from afar. I don't want you to get caught in thinking I've misdirected hostilities. I love the guy's long-term future. I'm just saying, he was that close. I understand. I mean, walking off after you knock a guy down and not making sure you take care of business and finish him off, any other referee could have just let that

go to the final bell. No doubt about it. And I just think even with the win, and even with the Ngannou callout, and even with my potential excitement for those kind of fights, and even with your sort of saying, hey man, we've got to flip this division around, get some blood in there, I still think this is more of a loss, a moral loss. Has there ever been a moral loss, even though the guy won?

This is almost like a moral loss in a way, because this guy's got a lot to work on to be a legitimate title contender. Okay, fine. Again, was it as inspiring as a victory could be? No, it certainly was not. But as I've articulated, there are reasons to be a little bit forgiving. And as for the stoppage, I think both sides have a case here. You're right.

He should have followed up, and he didn't. On the other hand, would you really want to let a fight go where a guy was cut like that? I'm not saying it was a bad stoppage. I'm saying it could have gone well. Well, it's worth questioning about whether it was a good stoppage or not. So Overeem pops up, but then Overeem actually doesn't direct himself towards Rosenstruck. He actually walks a different direction. At the same time, if you actually look at the clock, it was right at the end.

So there's a lot of ways that could have gone. I guess my point is if Overeem, I don't want to call him, I want to be very respectful. He is not fragile, but at this late stage in his career, he doesn't have a ton of room for error against heavy-handed strikers, and to win that many rounds and that much time, all for it to evaporate in an instant, again, under not the most perfectly situated circumstances, still kind of tells me it's time for some rejuvenation in this division. But it was a strong performance.

Top to bottom from Overeem outside of the last four seconds. He's not done. He's not done. That's what he had to do against a young guy and kind of expose him. I thought he fought well. Now, that takes us to the co-main event very quickly. What do you want to say about that? That was just this weird.

How many times did he get kicked in the ball, Stefan Struve? Three times, Two times? That wasn't the co-main event, but... Oh, sorry. It was the co-main event in my mind. Sorry, the Cavillo one was... It was the sloppy Super Bowl main event of the night. Dude, what the hell was that

between Ben Rothwell and Stefan Struve? That was the only time the crowd got excited all night was when he kicked him in the donks and donks three times. Well, they boot him on the ground, then he stands up and they cheer, but then when he turns around to keep resting, they boot him again, which is just its own level of weirdness.

You know, I think, you know, John Anik... By the way, should they run it back? No, no, I don't want to see that crap again. John Anik made the right point that it probably, because of the, how hard the first kick was, that was worth a point deduction. He never recovered. It was worth a point deduction because when DC made the reaction after the second kick of like, uh-oh, the fight's over, it really should have been.

Even without the, even if you hadn't deducted the point, two hard kicks of that level, how is a guy going to be able to bounce back and continue? Also, I didn't like the coaching from Dan Mergliato, if I can be honest with you. He's not been on his A game lately, certainly saying the things he did about Michael Venom Page, which he apologized for.

And I'm not one of these guys who, if they have a bad... Again, even the best referees are going to have egregiously bad stoppages. People don't think that. They think all the stoppages will be good or so-so. No, very good referees can have really bad stoppages. He's had some bad ones, certainly. But this was kind of weird where he was sort of like egging him on.

It's not his job. You do want to give a degree of latitude. You do want to give a degree of space, Brian Campbell. But sort of like being moral support, I would not think that that is his role. And I was glad that the commentary team didn't intervene like we had against the Tyson Fury situation, where they told the corner what the actual commission is saying. So we got that avoided.

I was actually a little worried they were saying something, but I didn't care much for that. My two cents to close on that is we've seen DC in the commentary role a lot, and he's still lovable, but we've normally seen him in the third guy spot. Sometimes on these combat teams in boxing, I remember May, the third guy can be the comedy guy, can be a little bit mixed of everything. Seeing him in the number two spot this Sometimes on these combat teams in boxing or MMA, the third guy can be the comedy guy. It can be a little bit

mixed of everything. Seeing him in the number two spot this weekend with Rogan not there, I think that DC isn't just great. I think he might actually be the best commentator in the game today. Maybe even across both sports.

And I love him more in that dedicated number two role where you can almost build the broadcast around him. No disrespect to Joe Rogan, that he's moved on quickly. He was talking about Cormier to become like A-plus at to Joe Rogan, that he's moved on quickly, he's talking about Cormier, to become A-plus at his job. Yeah, I would just say very quickly, Paul Felder's great,

but when you have DC and Anik there, it's just hard to shine when DC's shining. It's just very, very difficult. Last thing I'll say about, two things very quickly, because Jay's telling us to move on. One, should Cynthia... You care about what he says? A little bit.

Should Cynthia move up to flyweight? All right, Jay, back off. She should, two out of the last three fights she's had issues making weight. And the problem is she's shown you some championship level intangibles, toughness, you know, ability to put together a game plan. Certain things she shows you, aggressiveness, a finishing ability that looked really good. She just hasn't put the whole package together. When you fail two out of three times, naturally we say go up, but there is a legitimate gap, even though it's only 10 pounds, between the kind of competition

you'll face at the very top at flyweight compared to strawweight. But with flyweight being such a narrow and shallow division, she conceivably could have a much quicker path to a title shot. So all in all, I would advise her to move up if I was asked. I spoke to her on Friday at the Host Hotel and what she basically told me was,

I'm going to go to the UFC PI. They're going to do a full array of exams and whatever they do. If they say move up, then I'm moving up, which I think is probably the right call. Last thing I'll say is, who were the clowns in D.C. at this event? Your people, by the way. No, they're not. No, they're not. And I'll tell you why.

Because I was there in 2011. It was nothing like that. And I've been to all but one of the ones in Fairfax, including when Diaz fought Maynard or when, for example, Chad Mendes knocked out... Korean Zombie. That one I missed. But the point being is folks don't realize this. D.C. is like 600,000

people. It's a small city. The surrounding area is 6 million. The people in D.C. don't like MMA. It's either a boxing town or it's a baseball town or a hockey town. That's it. They don't give a shit about MMA. Crack town or not anymore? Not anymore.

It used to be. Back in the Mary and Barry days. Mary for life. Dude, those were Arlington bros and Dundalk donks out there mouth breathing. They love dick kicks, though. You got to give them up for that. They popped huge for the donk. They were so embarrassing.

I was so embarrassed for that crowd. One of the worst crowds I've heard for a UFC event. I was glad I was not there. Can we say this, though? We were at the boxing event, which we'll talk about in just a second. It was such a refreshing moment to go to a boxing show and not have to hear woos all the time. That pisses you off. Dude, it's like, who are these low-level primates with their mating call to other low-level primates where they go to the National Zoo and please enter the primate house?

Should they wear their Affliction t-shirt on the way there? I don't give a F what you do. Just please stop coming to anime fights. It's so angry. Who are these Romulus and Remus fuckos that wherever they go, they decide you get to ruin everyone else's good time? Dude, you pay the ticket. You can take your shirt off and paint things on your chest and scream. You can be the just direct cut it guy if you want.

Don't enable losers ever. Okay? I'm more of the belief that if I want to get drunk and go to a minor league baseball game and yell at some 21-year-old and talk about his mom, I got that right. I bought the ticket. Yeah, you do have the right. You're also a fuckhead if you do. You're also the kind of person that can't be trained.

You probably aren't even housebroken. How many of the people who were wooing aren't even housebroken? You pee in the corner in your own home. You just hate pro wrestling. Just give in, all right? Just give in. Who are those pro wrestling fans? Those are MMA fans.

Yeah, but it's an extension of pro wrestling. It's a Ric Flair. Well, that's the reason why I don't watch. But, okay, let's move on to the second topic at hand if we can. The biggest fight of the weekend, and it was big in spectacle, certainly big in size with Andy Ruiz doing what he was doing, with Anthony Joshua winning back all of his titles against Andy Ruiz in the hotly anticipated rematch in Saudi Arabia.

In the end, the story was very obvious. Anthony Joshua just outboxed him from basically pillar to post. It was the jab, Brian Campbell, the lateral movement. Everything I said last week. I don't know if you watch the show when you're not on it. I certainly do. I'll go to you first on this. The biggest takeaway from the fight is what?

I mean, the biggest takeaway is AJ put the train back on the tracks with really a clinical performance. And anyone after the fact who's saying, look, this guy ran, this guy was too safe. Look, to some elements, that kind of criticism is partially correct, but it's calculated. Why? Because he just got knocked the hell out and lost his unbeaten record and may have lost his invincibility, which was the whole narrative coming in. Could this global superstar put it back on and get in there and resume his career?

From that side of the narrative, the lead story is what Joshua did. By having three or four belts, he has regained control of the heavyweight division. He's still the A player in a crowded field of marketable names with Wilder and Fury. Worldwide, dude, if you can command 90,000 in a soccer stadium against anyone, you still have that right.

And he just, by the way, made 85 million on Saturday. He says he already can. Show me. Anyway, hold on. Let's roll on from there. But it's hard to say that's the biggest story and he just, by the way, made $85 million on Saturday. He says he already can. Show me. Anyway, hold on. Let's roll on from there. But it's hard to say that's the biggest story when just as equally what Ruiz didn't do, and then you add in his post-fight comments.

I mean, the words like a disgrace may be hard, but it was disgraceful the way Ruiz carried himself from the feel-good story victory on June 1st to what happened inside the ring there. And him coming in 15 pounds overweight on Friday, and then there was still that 24 hours of, well, maybe he's added so much muscle, maybe blah, blah, blah, maybe this, maybe that. It wasn't a horrible performance from Ruiz, but it was certainly a performance that was—

Second class. That was second class, and that was held down by his fitness coming in. I mean, he took off that shirt and you saw a tattoo on Titi saying F-A-T right from the start. And you're like, oh man. And the fact that he had a potentially wounded guy in front of him and this fight was constructed for us to get our answers. Could AJ still be that guy? I don't really know now if AJ could still be that guy because Ruiz was limited to one punch at a time. He certainly didn't have the pace and the aggressiveness that he had the first time. And then afterwards for him to so honestly say, this is a time where honesty

is a bad idea. To say, I partied for three months and I didn't think it would affect me, but it did. And to say, sorry, trainer Manny Robles, but I largely trained myself for the last few months. And saying, you know, I didn't think the extra weight would bother me. It's sad because this was such a big event, and to a certain degree, it's tainted by what Ruiz didn't do. And anyone that wants to tell me, well, Joshua fought so boring, dude, he's trying to save his career. Get on Ruiz for not getting in there and making that a fight.

So my takeaway from it was certainly I agree with just about all of that. I would just add, you know, there are real, and I mean this sincerely, there are real ingredients for success long-term. Who are the ones who become A-plus players? And the reality is I think a few things have to happen. It has to happen in a way where it incrementally builds over itself so you're used to each stage before the next stage comes. Why do people who win the lottery so often end up spending all of their money or broke or people who go right from high school to the NBA who don't have good counseling? Sometimes Kwame Brown blows through all their money.

Robert Swift trashed that house in Seattle. Yeah. But the point being is you don't know how to handle success. And it wasn't like he was some scrub. Again, he had had a pretty, I think, relatively decorated background in boxing prior to this, but he didn't have the adulation. He didn't have all the visibility. And once he did, he simply didn't know, honestly, he didn't know what it meant. He didn't have all the visibility. And once he did, he simply didn't know, honestly, he didn't know what it meant. He didn't really know what to do with it, which is why he said he partied a little bit because he probably thought it was going to go.

A little bit. I mean, you now go back and see the evidence that we got. I don't know if you saw that YouTube series, Dank City, that followed him around and did a four-part thing. And all he's doing in there is eating chicken wings and pizza. And then we're like, well, was that one celebratory meal or was that how he is?

And you see sort of, there were clues along the way, spending the money, partying, and all that stuff. It could have just been in a little pocket. We didn't know to blow it up. We didn't know what it was. But I'm telling you, the moment he took off his shirt and the ring on Saturday, you got your first inclination that, ooh, this didn't go in the right direction. When the whole training camp, he talked about getting slim.

But it's more than that, too. It's more than just, how did he manage his life? The naivete to say you thought it would be just like it was the last time. The naivete to train yourself. What are you doing here? By the way, I don't know if you saw his dad comment afterwards. I don't want to throw him under the bus, but his dad didn't hold back and good for him. My point being is if these are levels of success that happened like this versus steadily climbing a ladder. Even climbing the ladder very quickly, you just don't know how to handle any of it. And he didn't.

And honestly, to say, yes, all of the overeating, all of the lack of training, all of the partying, all of the spending, I'm with you on. I was taken aback when he was like, yeah, I thought it'd be like that in June. It's too honest. My point is, Andy, you might have been the only person on earth who thought it would be just like the first time. Even us who had, you know, Hey, maybe Andy has a chance of doing this. None of us believed it would be the same. It'd be something new.

He just waltzed in there utterly unprepared for the moment. It's sad that, you know, whether it was a combination of his manager, his trainer, his father, promoters, that as a whole, they weren't able to reel this in. Like, I don't, I don't like when sometimes there's a random injury that calls out a fight. So people say, did that injury really happen? Was that a, did they fake it for whatever? This would almost been a reason to fake an injury and really get this to a point where you can compete. You know why no one knew his name outside of hardcore boxing fans coming in?

Because he had showed flashes of ability, but he never could get over the hump and be disciplined. And in his biggest possible moment outside of that June 1st upset, he had the chance to show us how great he can be, and he punted. And that's really sad because him at his very best, that would have been a hell of a fun fight that's super important. And now he, who knows, is he going to drift away? Is he going to come back in big fights?

All I know is that between him, Eddie Hearn, and Anthony Joshua, after the fight all using that word trilogy, get the hell out of here. He's got a long way to come back before we fights? All I know is that between him, Eddie Hearn, and Anthony Joshua after the fight all using that word trilogy, get the hell out of here. He's got a long way to come back before we ever want to see that fight again. I mean, it's like, dude, I'm not going to call the first time a fluke, but you basically burst onto the scene through what let's call an unlikely win, right, in terms of expectations. Then in a chance where everyone had an opportunity to recalibrate, your recalibration is to hit the brakes instead of the gas. I mean, you're telling the world that's who you are.

You're telling the world that when the wind is at your back, you just decide to kick your feet up rather than let's build, let's pursue, let's grow, let's challenge. He didn't do it. Sadly, it was Buster Douglas all over again. It really was, sadly. There's no chance they make a third fight, at least not anytime soon. Which brings us to the next part of this. I just, look, maybe he'll fight, that being Anthony Joshua, maybe he'll fight Fury. I wouldn't rule that part out if things have to happen for that to be in place.

The thing that has to happen is Tyson Fury's ESPN contract to run out for that to happen. That's really what's going to happen. Okay, well, I'm not going to say it's utterly impossible, but let's say there's some challenges there. But the one fight to me that seems it'll never happen would be Wilder, in part because there's boxing politics with him being with PBC and not, which would have been great because if Ruiz had won with being with PBC, they could have made that.

And by the way, Deontay Wilder savaging Ruiz over the weekend. He spoke to Akin Barak from DAZN as well as Lance Pugmire from The Athletic. But the key for me is, I just don't buy that Anthony Joshua is going to fight either of them anytime soon. So here's the question. Let me break that down. Well, I'll let you go. Is it Dillian White next?

Is it, I don't know, Chisora next? Who is Anthony Joshua going to take on next? Because it's not going to be Fury, and it's not going to be Wilder. AJ's got three titles. The mandatories are lining up. It's probably more than likely going to be somebody like Hakubrat Pulev, who he was supposed to fight back a year and a half ago. Let me lather up in the greatness of that bout. He also has Alexander Usyk as one of his mandatories.

That's a more difficult fight because we don't really know yet if Usyk is a legitimate heavyweight. I would guess that he would fight like a Pulev first and then maybe rematch a Dillian White, who also won over the weekend, even though he wasn't in great shape. The rematch would be huge in the UK. That's more likely where he's going in 2020, while Wilder and Fury are going against each other in February, maybe even a third time. There's some rumors in terms of what the language of the contract means. But the whole idea of AJ fighting Wilder or really fighting anyone else that's non-da-zone and has their own TV deal, I think we still have a problem. This is going to sound like in the weeds and inside baseball, but boxing is still handcuffed by politics and the internal idea that,

well, I fight exclusively for this network. How do we make a fight with this one? The fact that DAZN is not in the traditional pay-per-view business still to me is a monster problem to these fights happening. Why could we possibly get Fury Wilder? Actually, we are getting it in February. Right. Because Fox and ESPN are able, with their

co-pay-per-view models, to come together and team up in the promotion and the production of it. That happened for Mayweather Pacquiao. That happened for Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis. It rarely ever happens unless the fight is big enough. I have asked everybody over the last year, DAZN side, PBC side, the fighters, the managers, everybody said, look, is it possible that a DAZN superstar fighter like an Anthony Joshua could fight a Deontay Wilder or a Tyson Fury from another network where it was a

joint network deal? And everyone sort of says, well, because there's a male end and a female end that don't connect here. If you are coming out and being all sports streaming app and DAZN, and your motto is we killed the pay-per-view business, how are you going to do a joint effort with somebody else unless you get into the pay-per-view business? So until I see something rectified in those two models not coming together, it's not like Al Heyman's going to say, go ahead, Deontay, go over and fight on DAZN. No, not going to happen. Bob Arum's not going to say, okay, Tyson Fury, go fight him on DAZN. Everyone's in their own house saying you got to come to me. So you're really going to have to wait until the model changes

or somebody's contract runs out before we can see these. And that's sad. It's certainly revealing that in the case of, let's look at Mayweather-McGregor. Yes, it was a boxing match. But ultimately, who are the two promoters? You had an MMA promoter working with Showtime and Mayweather Promotions together. I mean, across sports, quite literally. But the reason they could make that happen, to the point you just nicely articulated,

is that ultimately, at the time, what underpinned them both was a similar kind of business model, a similar kind of output, and a deliverable to the product that made, yes, I'm sure negotiations a little bit difficult, but in the end, not insurmountable, because in the end, they all had a very similar kind of goal for revenue sharing and distribution of the product. DAZN kind of complicates that to a pretty significant degree. You want to talk about a big win for AJ? Even bigger win for DAZN. If you're in the weeds on the business, that was a big win for DAZN. Did you see the numbers in Sky Sports, by the way, for the pay-per-view? 1.6 million. That country's not that big, by the way. Just in the UK, that is an extremely high number. So to your point, it probably is the biggest star

in global boxing, at least in terms of the heavyweights anyway, but in terms of getting an action fight, I saw somebody be like, yeah, I can't wait till he fights Wilder. Well, pull a seat up, because it's going to be a while. Yeah. Don't forget, Wilder got offered, what, like $120 million over for a four-fight deal from DAZN earlier this year and turned it down. So it is what it is. All right.

So that takes us to the second, though, of the two boxing fights. We were at the other one, Brian Campbell. Dramal Charlo defending his WBC middleweight title against Dennis Hogan, winning rather, would you say rather easily? I would say rather easily. I think in the seventh round. I don't have the numbers right in front of me. I'd say handily more than easily, because it was brilliant how he set up both knockdowns. Yes, it was. We were talking about this. We did the prelim stream, which, by the way, is also, I found out from one of our friends here at Showtime, they double streamed it once on Showtime Sports and also on this channel. So for some of you who watched me on this channel, we really appreciate that. I know this is predominantly an MMA show, but for those of you who are coming

along to boxing, we really appreciate that. Let me just say this. We had talked about what the challenge was for Jamal in the pre-show, the prelim show, and we had thought, you know, look, this is an opportunity for you to really stand out, to really show us your boxing ability, in part because there was a bit of a visibility issue for him, and in part because his last two fights, albeit for some different circumstances, Korobov being a good boxer, and then Adams, you know, yes, coming from 154, he hurt his hand in his own hometown. So he needs to come out and have a dynamic display. I would argue mission accomplished for the most part.

You know, dropping him with that uppercut was phenomenal. I mean, literally taking him off of his feet. The guy did a backwards somersault. And then that little dip to the side. And then I think he crushed him with the left. Yeah, but throwing the feint first to move to have Hogan move his guard. That's what I mean, the feint. He just showed tremendous boxing talent, tremendous

athletic ability. Still, the issue is for me, while it's clear, it's clear at this point, I think, and I said this on the prelim show, I think I stand by it now, he can punch at 160. I don't know why people say he can't punch at 160. I don't know who those people are. There's some dumbasses out there, but he can punch at 160. Still,

though, still, I just don't know that that was the kind of performance that got people to say, wow, that was amazing. It was the kind of performance where I saw people saying afterwards, yeah, that's what you should have done. And he did. Well, look, you may get the— He needs to do that against somebody people really, truly care about. 100%. Now, you certainly could get a hardcore cynical—and by the way, there's no cynics, like a boxing cynic that could say, well, you're supposed to do that against Hogan.

But Hogan's a durable dude with a weird style. But Charlo did what he's supposed to do from the standpoint of you want to produce a gif. You want to produce a highlight reel knockout. And that's ultimately what he did. And did you see the relief on his face afterwards? He had been so combative in the buildup. At the weigh-in, man, he was just like

tied really damn tight. And to see him just all happy joy joy afterwards showed you the pressure he put on himself to be that guy again. Who's that guy? The guy that when he moved up from a successful run as a title holder at 154, had those two title win knockouts against Island and against Centeno Jr. Spectacular. We were talking, is he pound for pound? Is he on the way there? Like you mentioned, the two decision fights slowed him down a bit. But now it's time really to get him in there with the biggest name you possibly can. And it's not a secret that DAZN has invested heavily in the middleweight division.

So the big names like a Canelo, a Triple G, an Andrade, for now are on the other side of the street unless promoters are willing to play ball. But you're building up now names on the Showtime Fox BBC side that are getting interesting. I don't know if you saw Sergey Derevyanchenko in the crowd. He called him out. He's a promotional free agent. And you have Chris Eubank Jr. on that undercard. Let me get to that. So let me get to that. We didn't talk about this. This part, I'm actually really curious to get your opinion. So if you guys didn't see the fight, Korobov and Eubank were in the co-main event. Again, event co-main event all 160 pounders all middleweights. The thought was Eubank jr. Coming in brash Athletic aggressive not the most technical boxer

But the kind of guy who could just put the heat on you and big punches coming off that nice one over to Gale So we thought if he can get by Korobov man, that's your next guy and he was chirping all fight week Which would you know a no age Ramal Charlo? I Really think the way that ended kind of hurt things a little bit for Eubank, a little bit for Showtime as well. I'm kind of that though. Okay. Fair enough. Here's my thought. I still want to see Eubank take on Charlo because I kind of felt like, yes, Korobov was doing well early, but we all knew that the second half of that fight was going to be Eubank's fight in all likelihood. Still, throwing the shoulder

out, you just didn't get a chance in your U.S. debut to take the British flag and stamp it in Brooklyn and say, I will defend this. And to call Charlo's name out afterwards. He spent the time saying that it was karma for Korobov. That was a dick move, but

that's on brand. But my point being is, you know who he wasn't talking about? He wasn't talking about Charlo. And that, to me, was a bit of a missed opportunity. Jamal had spent all week yelling at anybody who brought up the name Eubank Jr. In fact, he told me to F off on my podcast when I asked too many questions about Eubank. Yet, at the weigh-in, man, I don't know if you saw it, Charlo got up pretty close to Eubank when he got off the scale and looked in his eyes.

It's such a sexy, marketable fight. From a promotional standpoint, you're right. We didn't get the big look at me now moment. But boxing fans also know who Chris Eubank Jr. is. And one thing that didn't happen that potentially could have is exposure. Because he could have gotten exposed against a technical boxer like Korobov, who is such a tough out and doesn't make you look good because of that amateur experience. 350 fights.

It's a cheesy win, but in some cases... I mean, he was hoisting a belt around his shoulder. He didn't answer the questions that we needed answered, and I don't think that hurts, though, a potential build toward Charlo and Eubank, because if that was next, and we don't know if it is, the trash talk alone, the highlights you can play of both of them alone, the fact that they already do not like each other

and have been talking bad, man, this could be a fun fight, and it would be such a legitimate test of Charlo, just the same as Eubank, because Eubank's already proven he's a knockout puncher at 68. Now he's moving down to his natural weight. It would be wild. Okay, but the point being is you can hurt sometimes. Excuse me. Sometimes you can not hurt without helping. Sometimes you can do—sometimes the hurting actually gets right in the way. Here's my point.

It's like you needed some kind of moment to establish a bit of a visible presence. I mean, how many people in the crowd really knew who Eubank Jr. was? The name probably looked familiar. The hardcore certainly knew who he was. Obviously, he's popular across the pond to a degree. I get what you're saying. I get it.

I just felt like, you know, they needed some kind of- Sometimes a push is better than a loss. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. I don't think it hurt it. They could still make it. And again, all the chirping he did at the last press conference, that's all footage they're going to be able to take into any potential fight that they make. At the same time, it would have been nice to see him come back and then finish off Korobov in the 10th or 11th or something to be like, wow, man, he really is that guy. Because as Paul Malinowski had stated, Korobov was an amateur world champion, a legitimate talent, a southpaw as well. It just would have been nice. I don't know. All right. Let's go back to MMA if we can here for

just a moment. Something happened this past week, Brian Campbell. I don't really like any of this, but I'd be curious to get your perspective on it, of course, which is that Frankie Edgar was supposed to fight on January 25th, Corey Sandhagen, and it was going to be Frankie Edgar's bantamweight debut. Instead, because Brian Ortega at 145 fell out against the Korean zombie for his fight scheduled on the 21st of this month in Busan, South Korea, Edgar said, you know what, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to fill in for Ortega at 145 against the zombie, and we're going to try and see if we can make it happen against Sanhagen at 135 a month later. Look, everybody respects Frankie Edgar and everybody admires what he's done.

And I would be very foolish to say he can't do any of this. But if we're talking about probability, if we're talking about career management, let me just say, I don't understand this for a couple of reasons. First, why are you going back to 145? If you beat Korean Zombie, it's possible you could get a title shot, but that's not a guarantee. And it really is not a guarantee if Max Holloway beats Volkanovski. Yeah, nobody would want it. Even if Volkanovski wins, I don't want to play MMA math, but I would just say, let's say Volkanovski wins this Saturday. That will mean he had beaten Aldo and Holloway.

The two guys at featherweight, Edgar couldn't get past. That's the guy you're going to get past? It doesn't seem all that clear to me. Secondly, you look at the three guys that Korean Zombie just fought, right? Since his return from this military sabbatical, Moikano knocked him out. Yair sent him to the hospital, even though he won. And then, of course, Bermudez knocked him out. The point being is,

win or lose, those guys aren't ready to fight a month later. And so, are you still going to go to 135? Because I don't know how that's going to get back on the tracks.

I mean, maybe it will, but clock's ticking. He's almost 39 years old. I just don't like this, Brian Cameron. Didn't we learn a lesson? The year was 2017 and middleweight champion

Michael Bisping lost a tough-ass fight against GSP for the title in which he got beat up for two and a half rounds and then got submitted. And three weeks later, he played the veteran card and they said, we need you to headline in China against Kelvin Gastelum. And he got sent to hell and his career was over. Here's the thing about Frankie Edgar right now. You're 38. You're in that Rich Franklin period of your career, like I like to say, where you can float weight classes. They can call you last minute and say, we need you to save this card.

We need your name. We need your star power. He kind of cashed in his last title shot opportunity in my eyes against Max. I know this move down in weight maybe is a chance to revive that and get one more. But how the heck could not, what are you doing, Frankie? Because Frankie's a fighter, man. He's going to fight. He's going to fight for purses,

and he's going to fight. How the heck are you the UFC, and you are not just canceling the Sanhagen fight? Because if they want to use his name to save this card against Korean Zombie, more power to him. That's fine. By the way, the matchup doesn't suck.

Does it throw off his plans to go to 135? Yes. But how the hell are you going to have two fights on the book in one month with a 38-year-old guy and the first one's a killer action savage fight? The second one is a killer. Well, I know, but we may not get to the second one, so it's like, why

even mention that? I don't care who he's fighting. I don't care if he's fighting you in the second one. By the way, your functional jiu-jitsu game is kind of good, right? Shut up. Just keep going. Anyway, look, I love Frankie Edgar. How could you not love Frankie Edgar? But the guy's got old balls. Why are you setting him up to fail here?

How do I follow the old balls comment? Look, the other point here is, too, is I was wondering, why is the UFC doing this? You've got this guy you could send to 135, because 135 was getting interesting. I was asking the folks, I was asking Cody Stammen and Rob Fawn, who are at UFC DC for Media Day. I was like, here comes Aldo, right?

Faber's back. Here comes Frankie. 135 is getting some veteran names that some of you youngsters can, if you can get the wins, build your name off of. They all thought that was kind of intriguing. Now, Aldo still has that fight this weekend, if he can make it to the scales without some kind of, God forbid, serious issue. But let's talk about Edgar for just a second.

Could he have beaten Corey Sanhagen? I certainly take his chances seriously. That's a tough fight, man. It's a super tough fight. So my whole point being is now Corey Sanhagen is left in alert. So I was thinking, what does the UFC get out of this? Dude, the UFC will let you fall on your own sword. Because I think what they're saying to themselves is, we'd rather lose a co-main event than a main event, particularly in a developing market. So cancel the damn co-main event already. I agree. Give Sanhagen somebody else. And the other part about this is, too,

Ryan Hall is looking for an opponent. I don't know if Sanhagen was interested or not, but I know that he volunteered for the Korean zombie fight. He tried to get that UFC DC card. Folks don't want to fight him. So there's a lot of different ways. How about the damn Dominator? Dominic Cruz is back.

Looked good in some training videos. All this is to say, I don't like going up to 145, but there are ways. If things work out, it could be fine. And to your point, who's against an Edgar versus Korean zombie fight in a vacuum? It's a phenomenal contest. But all the different ways in which it's being made and why it's being made and who can benefit, if I'm advising Frankie Edgar, I don't know that this is the smartest call. But you're right about the fall on the sword.

If you reveal to the UFC that you've got this much left in the jar, they'll say, pour it out. Let's do it. They don't care. They'll let you burn it. Speaking of Corey Sanhagen, by the way, who I'm very high on, is Marina Rodriguez the female version of him? I mean, we talked quickly about that fight over the weekend with Cynthia Calvillo,

but Marina impressed big time. She did, except I would say that Sanhagen's ground game is much better. I mean, that's the whole point, right? Like, he can just, he's got omoplates, he's got a good guard, he can take the back. He's just nasty with it. So I understand, maybe Edgar likes his chances against Zombie better, he's going to

wrestle him to death? I don't know, but it's a weird one, to put it mildly. How about they pay him not to do that? Just pay him not to take the second fight. Please, just be nice here. Yeah, I wouldn't mind that either. All right, that takes us to the big event coming up this weekend. I'm so excited about this, Brian Campbell.

UFC 245 is this weekend. We could do a whole show on that. We could do an entire show just about that. So let's, while there are many different storylines, let's center it on the three fights at the top, which, of course, are the women's bantamweight title, the men's featherweight title, and then the men's welterweight title. My first question for you, Campbell, and there's really no wrong answer. It's just your preference. Which of the three title fights is the best? It's a great question. Yeah, it is. That's why I asked

it. The best of the three title fights, it really is the main event. Okay. Tell me why. Because you're mixing in the element, of course, of promotion of who's next in terms of a potential superstar and hate her to love him. The underdog is on top. Colby Covington could actually be a giant thing with a victory here. Was that a game reference? That was. Not 90s.

Take that 90s counter off of there. Oh, 50 cent, I guess. Go ahead. Wow. This is such an intriguing matchup because Usman's rolled through everybody, and nobody has talked more game than Covington, yet if the wrestling cancel each other out, which I don't think enough people are talking the potential of,

this will be an interesting fight on the feet, and I think one that Usman can dominate. I don't agree. So here's the thing. In thinking about what I was going to do for Dissected today, I was saying to myself, man, what are they going to do? I wanted to do the main event for 245, and I looked at the numbers, and here's the reality about this. Colby Covington, in his MMA career, has never fought someone like Kamaru Usman. Kamaru Usman in his UFC and MMA career has never fought anybody like Colby Covington. These two are the first time, we're not going to say mirror images, but the first time you get the sense that they can match each other with the wrestling. But while I certainly take as a possibility it could be on the feet, and of the two, Kamaru

is the harder hitter, but the busier of the two, and the guy who has his bread and butter on the feet on offense, is Colby Covington. But my hunch is there's going to be some cancellation of that. Well, that's the drama. That's why I say that's the best fight. The drama of seeing that play out. But I think in the end, what's going to happen is one guy's going to put their wrestling game on the other. In the end, someone's going to bend that knee. And I don't know who it is, but my hunch is that's how it's ultimately going to be resolved, not with these. I think that when you bring in the emotions at stake of not liking each other, and you bring in the potential for a high-energy five-round fight between arguably the guys with the two biggest gas tanks in the sport,

this could be one of those fights that can be super entertaining and super high-level for hardcores only at the same time. And like I said, when you add in the pro wrestling elements on top of it and sprinkle it on, this is a fight that I'm very excited about that I feel like has almost no buzz. Yet when it was booked, I'm like, oh my God, the buildup, the conference calls, the fight week. I mean, look, we'll give it a chance fight week that it could heat up, but there's like nobody talking about this fight. You know what's weird? Did you watch the countdown video that they put out? I watched it yesterday. It's almost as if Colby and Kamaru don't hate each other. They hate the idea of each other.

Like there's no real, like when GSP would go up against Kostchek, you got the sense that Kostchek, even if he was playing a role, kind of got under GSP's skin in a real way. It just seems very transactional between these two. And I didn't think it would get there. And it's a little distant. And here's the other part. I don't know if they're just turning down media. And I'm sure as they get in front of each other's face, it's going to get ugly this week. So please don't misunderstand me. But the weird thing is they're not talking about each other. There's no chirping at each other on social media. They're treating it as this is a thing I have to show up at

where this person will happen to be there. I think they're driving, which makes me wonder, does Colby really have that potential star power, or is it only as a B-side to another guy who can talk? I don't know. I know this. If he wins, MMA media is going to lose their mind. They can't conceive of

the idea that he's actually really good. But your original question to me, though, had a couple different ways you can look at it. This is the fight, the main event, I'm most looking forward to from a I don't really know what's going to happen. I want to see the drama play out. Agreed. But it is the co-main event that has the best potential for action. Okay, so let me get to that, because the second question I had written down here

was which title challenger is the livest dog? Well, that's the third fight. Oh, I would disagree. I would actually argue, well, I take Drew, okay, I take GDR and her chances against Amanda Nunes very seriously. But my personal opinion is the person who has their hands the fullest in this is Max Holloway. Alex Volkanovsky, very quiet, not a guy who's going to get there and do a bunch of interviews and say a bunch of things. In fact, even when I ask him about technique, his coach, Eugene Behrman, has encouraged him not to say anything to me. So he just keeps everything close to the vest. But if you watched his fight with Aldo, you got the sense that, I mean, maybe he gets the knockout, maybe he doesn't. Max has got a good chin, but he's taken a lot

of abuse this year. We'll see. But are you implying that they don't want Professor Salt and Pepper to expose to the world what they do, right? You'd have to ask them what they want and don't want. I just know what they tell them to say to me when they have interviews. What I would tell you though is, Max probably is a favorite here, but Volkanovski is a tough dude. These guys from City

Kickboxing, they have, people don't understand, they have a striking game inside of a disguised striking game in every capacity. So it's very difficult to get a read. They have a striking game inside of a disguised striking game in every capacity. So it's very difficult to get a read. They can change things up. They can land when you don't expect it. They find openings you don't think are there. They are a handful. He's got a good gas tank. He's powerful. He can wrestle. Again, I don't know that he wins, but I think Max Holloway isn't for the fight of his life. Can he beat Max Holloway thoroughly and win a decision,

or would it only come through a knockout against a guy who's insanely durable who you can't take down? Either. It has a potential for very high theater. Last thing on this, because Jay's telling us to move along, why would you say that the GDR

and Amanda Nunes rematch is the best? Because I think that she certainly became somewhat of a laughingstock with the title win, giving up the title. She didn't want to face Cyborg. They didn't even tell her that they stripped her, all that. Yet since then, she's just steadily doing what the Iron Lady does, which is not entertain you on the microphone, but win fights technically.

And the fact that she's big, the fact that she's been in there before against Amanda, I know she lost, but she isn't somebody that seems overwhelmed by the moment or have any kind of fear. She's just a tough-ass technical out. And we've seen Amanda get in there with people and bully them and knock them out. And this is going to be somebody who's taller, who's going to be a lot harder to do that. I'm not saying it doesn't end in a knockout like every other Amanda fight seems to go, but this has the potential to be one of those interesting ones

if GDR can really control distance and control the pace of this fight and not get it into a back and forth. Well, we look at the trouble that Nunes had with Shevchenko, who's not even a real bantamweight, to be quite honest with you. On the feet, GDR can absolutely beat Amanda Nunes. But if you go back to the first fight, Amanda Nunes just took her down. So we'll see if she does that this time. Hard to say.

All right. Now that takes us to the next part of the show. This is what we call DMs from Donks. This is where you Donks send us questions on our Instagram, at Morning Combat on Instagram. So give us a like and a follow there. All right. Let's do this.

Let's get to it now. This comes to us from Azaz underscore zero. Worst name ever. Brian Campbell, why did AJ get a lot of hate for hitting and not getting hit, but Fury gets prized for it? Yeah, it's a fair criticism there about why he's getting that criticism. It's tough. Well, also because he went and told the world.

You see that video I retweeted? He told the world, you should never fight this way, and then he fights that way. In making fun of Fury's victory over Klitschko in the past, he had said that. But look, AJ got humbled in the last fight. And what's interesting here is AJ's always been fun to watch because you saw the vulnerabilities in there. Because we've seen him, Luke, get hurt by jabs or get dropped by Klitschko or get sort of caught in certain ways. That he's always sort of tiptoeing the high wire to get to the victory. Now it'll be even more going forward.

Nothing really changes in that regard. But by the way, same thing happened to Lennox Lewis when he got knocked out twice during his title reigns and got back, you know, came back, re-won the title, and yet every fight was sort of waiting for him to fall. Same thing for Klitschko after those two knockout losses at the early part of his career and then went on that long run. So I think with AJ, it's sort of like he's so big and he had a reputation as being a finisher.

You don't think of him as a technical boxer, so when he's not acting like that finisher, people sort of go, oh, you're being boring. No, he's being smart. Yeah, look, people got on me on Twitter about this. I have no problem with the way that he fought. But dude, he did what he had to do. He landed big right hands. He was not fighting a negative fight.

And also, let's say even if he didn't. Dude, he did what he had to do. I mean, there was so much riding on the line. He even said in the post-fight press conference, he goes, there's entertaining and there's winning, and tonight was about winning. I have no problem with that. The problem that I have is when you win that way, A, after you had said previously, you should never win that way.

I get it. It's maturation. I understand. He also never been knocked out previously, you should never win that way. I get it. It's maturation. I understand. He also never been knocked out. So it changes. I get it. I get it. But then to go out there and be like, hey, if the other guys want to fight me like Wilder

and Fury, just pick up the phone. Dude, stop being disingenuous about it. Stop being just so not real. And I understand that you also have to say to the public certain things. But at some point, it's like, dude, this is borderline lying to the public. And I just, I can't abide by it. You know, you know you're not fighting Fury anytime soon. And you know you'll probably never see him.

And to answer that question, why do people don't say that about Fury? Because he's not a big puncher. That's how he wins fights is doing it. And he also claims to be, I'm the best boxer, which, you know, there's some debate about that, but it's certainly a credible claim. And Wilder says, I'm the heaviest hitter, which I don't know if he is in boxing history, but he's certainly up there. Like, the guys kind of stick to what the truth is.

Oh, I'll fight those guys. No, you won't. No, you won't. Just real quick, every time there's a big heavyweight fight, I like to update my heavyweight pound-for-pound rankings. Oh, yeah, where are you? Even though Joshua's very successful, even though he holds three or four belts,

I think he's slipping down because of that vulnerability. I've got Fury won, Wilder right behind him at two because I thought Fury beat him last year. And three men, I mean, can we put Usyk on the list yet? Do we have to see him fight against somebody? Not yet, not yet. I think Victor, I think Luis Ortiz at this point. Sorry, I almost said Victor Ortiz.

What? Luis Ortiz? I think Luis Ortiz beats Anthony Joshua, and a lot of people are calling me crazy already, but I'd love to see that. By the way, I also said this. Where are you on this one? I said Wilder. There's no way I see Joshua surviving 12 I said Wilder. There's no way I

see Joshua surviving 12 rounds with Wilder. No, no. Or outboxing Fury. Is Joshua the much better technical boxer than Wilder? Yes. But Wilder needs the tiniest of moments, and look at that reach he had. If Andy Ruiz can touch you on occasion, which wasn't much, but on occasion, and a

prepared Wilder is in there, dude, he's going to find the champ. I just want to say, both Lennox Lewis and Klitschko, after getting knocked out at certain points in their career, both took Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Stewart. Both took more of an upright, jab-heavy stance, a little more defensive. I do think AJ will be more boring the rest of his career, but those vulnerabilities are going to be there every single fight, man. We'll see.

So next is from Blue9Star97, Again, rival for the worst name ever. Do you think Canelo Brian Campbell will ever fight Charlo or Andrade? By the way, every time I see Andrade, I always think the MMA thing, so Andrade. Yes, yes. I do think he'll eventually fight Andrade unless he's just done with the middleweight division. There's rumors that when he comes back in the spring, it may be at 68 against like a Callum Smith who holds a belt or a Billy Joe Saunders. If he inevitably is done at middleweight, Luke, it may be at 68 against like a Callum Smith who holds a belt or a Billy Joe Saunders. If he inevitably is done

at middleweight, Luke, I could see him just being like, look, even though Demetrius Andrade is part of the zone, even though I can fight him easily, man, he's still the Swiss Army Knife of that middleweight division where we don't know how great he is and he's probably the toughest guy physically to fight with that length and that speed. It's not impossible.

Canelo always takes on tough challenges when we think he won't. But in terms of fighting Charlo, unless Charlo skyrockets to some level of even higher stardom quicker, I don't see how you're going to make that fight with the same political divides

I talked about earlier with the heavyweights. I don't see Al Heyman saying, go ahead to zone, take Charlo for one fight, and we'll make that happen on your side of the street. Maybe I'm wrong,

but I don't see that happening. And by the way, Danny Jacobs has left the division, basically. Yeah, he's going to fight Chavez Jr. Good lord. Well, I mean,

what do you want to say about that? But did that fight get canceled yet? I thought because of the drug testing thing they were going to pull Hearn's license.

I haven't heard. I think it's still on. Oh my god. That's boxing, bro. Come on. That's boxing. That's boxing. That's the saying we have.

That's boxing. It's amazing. It's like, dude, you know how Jorge Maslow was calling out Canelo, but you couldn't make the Canelo fight because of his own thing? You could make the Charlo fight. That's boxing. It's amazing. It's like, dude, why don't, you know how Jorge Masvidal was calling out Canelo, but you couldn't make the Canelo fight because of his own thing? You could make the Charlo fight. Why doesn't he call out Charlo?

Who, Canelo or Masvidal? No, Masvidal. Because it's lame. Stop with this. I'm not, listen, I make the same argument, and his manager got mad at me on Twitter. What do you want me to tell you? Charlo would send him to hell in a boxing match.

You tell him. You tell him, because when I say it, everyone gets bitter. All right, this comes to us from Jog Vanolavsun. I'm sure I'm saying that wrong. Is the upcoming fight between Khabib and Tony the most anticipated fight

in UFC history, Brian Campbell? It's not, but I did make that argument last week that I do think in all of combat sports, it's the best fight you can make on paper

in terms of an actual fight. X's and O's. Matchup versus matchup. You mean across boxing and MMA? Yeah, I think it's actually the best fight. I think it's even better than Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford. It's better than Fury Wilder? It's right there, dude. I mean, I want to see this one maybe a little bit more. But in terms of the most anticipated, no, because what really makes something anticipated is that extra level of celebrity and star power.

And you want to talk about what are some of the most anticipated fights in history? I mean, I don't, I'm not joking here. Anderson Silva, Chael Sonnen, too, is one of the most anticipated fights in UFC history. I don't think I've ever been more giddy entering a fight. Really? There was that. There was Brock Carwin. I was equally giddy.

It was almost like WrestleMania 3. It was like this. Brock Carwin, I was giddy. You know, I've certainly been giddy for, name any other big, there were certain Jon Jones fights that you're just like, man, is this going to be the one where he gets caught? I've got to see it. I don't think this one's on that level of star power.

I mean, it's certainly not Mayweather. I mean, certainly not McGregor and Habib. You know what's so funny? Could you ever beat McGregor and Habib for anticipation? No, you couldn't. But I'll say this. You know what's kind of funny? They were showing who all the luminaries were in attendance at Ruiz Joshua 2.

And in attendance, it was like Canelo, I think, had been spoken backstage to Ruiz. And there were some other boxing folk there. They showed Khabib because he got, like, apparently a star welcome. You know who was there they didn't show anywhere? Adesanya. Adesanya was there. Israel Adesanya. So it gives you a sense of, I'm not saying that Adesanya deserved to not be shown.

Quite the opposite. He should have been shown. But the fact that they knew Khabib was this big and he got that kind of a reception. By the way, how about the balls on them playing Sweet Caroline in Saudi? Oh, my God. Caroline's sweet, but she can't drive a car, vote, or walk without a headdress on in Saudi. Also, Max Kellerman noted, dude, it's embarrassing that people like that song. It's very British.

And I know people are like, it's not in the UK, mate. Well, it is if you have ears. I'm sorry. It's a very cheeky thing, all right? You've got to go with that. The song is, it's the lame person's national anthem is what it is. Well, it's the cougar in a bar's national anthem, right? Yeah.

So good. So good. So good. Many people have heard that song before some sloppy ones. Yeah. There is no doubt that is correct. There is no doubt in my mind.

In any event, I would argue very quickly, super fast, between Khabib and Tony, you're right about all those reasons, especially the celebrity factor. Khabib has it. Tony certainly could get it

with a win. But in just, people always ask me, like, what are your dream matchups for MMA? And on occasion, I'll have one here or one there. But I make this point all the time, Brian. It's so different than boxing. Boxing's model has many things that I like about it. MMA's model has many things that I like about it and dislike and vice versa. They're two really sort of independent worlds, although they obviously share some similarities. But one of the things I do like about the UFC model, although it comes at fighter expense,

I acknowledge, you more or less, more or less, you mostly get the fights you want. Not always. Right. Not all the time. But you more or less get it. I mean, think about the UFC's trying to make this fight for the fifth time. They made Pacquiao Marquez four times because they fought four times. Would a promoter or several promoters try to make this fight five times

at the first four? It failed. You just could never fathom that. So my whole point is it's like, yes, this is absolutely my most anticipated fight in the calendar. I can't imagine anything being more important than Khabib versus Tony. But in terms of like, oh, my wish list, I mean, I'm more, on the MMA side, I more or less kind of get it. And shout out, by the way, to Chuck Tito, too. And Chuck Rampage, that people forget, was so obscenely anticipated. That was the first time I saw highlights on SportsCenter for a UFC fight. It wasn't the first time it had happened, but that was the, because I think they had

had him on like, you know, biggest day of sports show. I really think Chuck Rampage was the fight. You can argue Chuck Tito, too, but I think Chuck Rampage was the fight that the public and the boxing fans for the first time were like, oh, I got to be there for this fight. That was the first time I remember a UFC pay-per-view post-Ultimate Fighter, because that's the key there, had just this really big field. You know what's big? When my friends in D.C. who can't stand MMA, none of my friends watch MMA,

they're like, does this Rampage guy have a chance? I'm like, well, funny you asked that. All right, in any sense, we move on. This is from Aryab97. Do you think the UFC books the rematch between Gaethje and Poirier as the co-main for Tony versus Habib in case someone gets injured and Gaethje can replace them? Now, I had Gaethje on my show.

I asked him, would you replace them? His answer was like, look, I'm looking for the title. I'm not saying I wouldn't, but they'd have to pay for my training camp. I wouldn't take that fight if I'm Gaethje. Good God. He goes, I'd do it. I would fill in, but you'd have to pay for my training camp. I wouldn't take that fight if I'm Gage G. Good God. He goes, I'd do it. I would fill in, but you'd have to pay for my training camp. And he goes, I should be next no matter what.

Yes. So what about the idea, though? Because if you look at the rankings, everyone's kind of booked up. You've got Cerrone booked up with McGregor. Obviously, it could be versus Tony. Felder and Hooker together. The two odd men out are Poirier sitting at two. I think Gage is sitting at four or five.

Do you match them up, Brian Campbell? No. If you're Gaethje, you're on deck, bro. The only one that can... Wait, wait, wait. Why do you say Gaethje? How am I supposed to say it, Luke? The way he says it.

Say it. Gaethje. Gaethje. What am I saying? Gaethje. Gaethje. Gaethje. Yeah.

All right, all right. Gaethje. I'm Gaethje, the one who put the satin on your panties. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I think it's too dangerous, dude. Unless Conor passes go and jumps the line, which could happen, obviously you have a chance to fight next, or you have the chance to fill in for either of those big matchups.

Don't fight anybody else. Wow. Remember when I told Tony Ferguson, don't take the damn Pettis fight. Don't do it. He did it, though. He did it, though, but don't do it. Don't do it. And then the Cerrone fight. Don't take that one either. Don't go to fight. Don't do it. He did it, though. He did it, though. But don't do it. Don't do it. And then the Cerrone fight.

Don't take that one either. Don't go to Fox. Don't trip over the wire. I would say this. They should have somebody on standby, though. They should absolutely have somebody on standby. But the problem is he gets a little hairy. So let's say you have Poirier on standby.

If Tony falls out, you're going to do Khabib versus Poirier, too. That doesn't make sense. I heard Frankie Edgar might be on standby. Probably. If you have Gaethje on there, he can replace either. But again, UFC would have to pay for his training camp and everything else in between. All right, this takes us then to Brandtendo64.

That's a better name. Favorite Christmas movie. This person says, I'm going to take a wild guess and say Campbell is a Home Alone guy. Well, Luke Thomas prefers the Beavis and Butthead Christmas special. Where are you? Well, am I supposed to prefers the Beavis and Butthead Christmas special. Where are you? Well, am I supposed to do the manly thing and say, Die Hard is the greatest Christmas

movie ever? I know. I'm not one of those guys who says, I'm not going to say Die Hard is not a Christmas movie, but even if it is, it's not the best one. For sort of like the kid in me, I like the one that no one ever talks about, Jack Frost, the original Clay Motion one. I can dig it. I love Jack Frost.

That is my favorite one every year. My kids hate it, and I make them watch it with me. Is that between Paul Blart and Mall Cop stories? No. I mean, look, in terms of modern Christmas movies that are real Christmas movies, I mean, it's too cliche to say, but Elf is frigging fantastic. Elf is pretty good. I watched it the other day with my family.

We had some Colombian in-laws. They'd never seen it. They'd never seen it, so we watched it. That was pretty good. I'm going to go with the cliche thing, too, dude. It's a sentimental piece for me. I'm not telling you it's the best.

It's just the best in my heart, Brian Campbell. What's left of the cold, dark place where a beating heart used to be? Until the rich white kids at Old Marietta

stole it from you? A Christmas story. They'll shoot your eye out. Fred G. Lay. You know what? Okay. Hold on. Listen to what I just told you.

I know that, but... I'm not telling you it's the best. I'm telling you it's sentimental. But it's like, of overplayed movies, listen to what I just told you. I know that, but... I'm not telling you it's the best. I'm telling you it's sentimental. But it's like, of overplayed movies, it's the gangbang of overplayed movies. Oh, yeah, it's dude. Like, I mean, they put it on 24 hours in a row.

It's literally the one I just, I cringe when I see it, even though it's one of the best movies ever, because... No, the most overplayed is the Charlie Brown one. That one, they just, they... Yeah, but that piano song's so badass, it still holds up. Is it? It really is. It really is.

It really is, you know? I don't really agree with that. But again, I'm not denying any of that. I'm just saying one showing once a year in my house. It's also Elf 2, by the way. Well, the 90s nostalgia in me. My wife makes me watch this one called Holiday in Handcuffs every year with A.C. Slater and Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Have you ever seen that one?

No. I watched that one every year too. Shouts, though. Shouts, though. How about an honorable mention? Can we agree on this one? I bet you we can agree. Honorable mention for Bad Santa? Yeah, I watched that one. Shouts, though. Shouts, though. How about an honorable mention? Can we agree on this one? I bet you we can agree. Honorable mention for Bad Santa?

Yeah. I like Bad Santa. Oh, come on. You got the little person. Then you got who's the dude who banged Angelina Jolie for all those years? Billy Bob Thornton. Yeah, yeah. And then Bernie Mac.

Bernie Mac's in that movie. Rest in peace, Bernie Mac. So will you stand by the Arnold Schwarzenegger Sinbad one? Speaking of Jay and my ear, would you stand by that one? Just because you went on Sinbad's podcast doesn't mean I have to acknowledge Sinbad.

I went on producer Jay's podcast. Thank you. Also Sinbad. Jay, what's that movie called? You know Sinbad. Jingle All the Way.

Thank you, Derek. I am a Schwarzenegger aficionado. I have posters of him all over my room like a teenage girl. No, I don't like that one. All right.

I mean, it's not the one where you had the baby. If he's not throwing a tube through some mercenary's gut and saying, let off some steam. Yeah, Bennett. I'm not sized. Yeah. I like you, Sully. That's why I'm going to kill you.

All right. Now's the portion on Sprockets where we do slapstick. All right. Before we get... Have you seen this shit? This might be the greatest have you seen this shit in the history of seeing shit. Jay, can I call an audible and bring up that Jamal Charlo one since I forgot to do that earlier? Did you see him at the press conference

against Dennis Hogan leading up this week? Did you see what he wore? The pre or post? The pre. With the hat on? Yeah, Jay, can you show this? Look at Jamal Charlo on the left and look at Shaq G Humpty Hump on the right.

Humpty Hump. Wow. Do the Humpty Hump. Oh, that is awesome. You know the guy on the right saying on Do What You Like, and if you missed it, he's the one who said just grab him in the biscuits. Do you understand that anyone 20 years old doesn't know who the guy on the right is?

Yeah, but that's a fantastic resemblance right there. Wow. Lions only, brother. Lions only. Indeed. You see the two, the chain he had on the post fight presser? No, I didn't. Two lions coming off the neck.

Oh, wow. All right. Have you seen, we are going all around the globe,fight presser? No, I didn't. Two lions coming off the neck. Wow. All right. We are going all around the globe, Luke. Are you ready? I went everywhere. At least, though. I went at Mongolia. All right. We're going to start UFC DC. Did you see Makud Muradov?

Did you see this knockout on Trevor Smith? Dude, this was so bad. Good Lord, the mouthpiece went flying, but so did Trevor Smith's soul. Can we get a replay on this, Jay? Look at the angle. Oh, my so did Trevor Smith's soul. Can we get a replay on this, Jay? Look at the angle. Oh, my God. The angle is this. The angle is they're not facing.

One is at a right angle, and that's why that one's there. I brought my kid to a fight. He got a souvenir. It's Trevor Smith's mouthpiece. Wow. Look at that. Wow. That is just.

Damn. He whipped him around. Damn. He whipped him around. That wasn't the only mouthpiece that flew this weekend. I'm going to take you to Aruba Fighting Championships. Are you ready for this? That sounds legit. John whipped him around. That wasn't the only mouthpiece that flew this weekend. I'm going to take you to Aruba Fighting Championships. Are you ready for this? That sounds legit.

John Mark Howell. Look at this uppercut from hell sending the mouthpiece flying. Dude, sending the mouthpiece, that's like getting the bloody nose on the deadlift. Yeah. It's a nice little champagne cork being popped. Huh? You ever go to Aruba? No.

My wife went. She said it's super overrated. I once studied abroad there. That sounds about right. Then I married her. All right. Let go to Aruba? No. My wife went. She said it's super overrated. I once studied abroad there. That sounds about right. Then I married her. All right. Let's keep it rolling this week. Luke, we take our MMA musings to Belarus.

Look at the in-fight entertainment between fights here. Honestly, can we agree there's nothing like Eastern Europe? There's nothing like that. Is this a sequel to Eyes Wide Shut? What is going on here? I feel like I should be walking around pantsless with Deontay Wilder's mask. This is great. This is the intersection with MMA that they like.

Is that Nicole Kidman on the left? This is fantastic. I never saw that movie. I'm kind of pitching a tent under the table here. This is not bad. Maybe this would be more of a holiday Easter event. Is this your favorite Christmas movie? Yeah.

Wow. I think I found the two eggs. Yeah. Here we go. You feeling it? Yeah. You don't like it found the two eggs. Yeah. Here we go. You feeling it? Yeah. Can you... You don't like it?

You want more? Yeah, it's fine. Five seconds. Can we move on? I can leave you alone and watch it. Is that good? No? All right.

Hey, we're going to roll on to India. You want to see some cruiserweight boxing in India? Check out these two fat guys. This is where I was born. No head punches. Look at this guy go to the body downstairs all day. Plenty of good seats still available here. It looks like two producers on this show. So look at that. PBO India. Look at this guy go to the body downstairs all day. Plenty of good seats still available here. It looks like two producers on this show. PBO India. Look at these two guys.

They checked the spit bucket afterwards. It was all gravy. Look at this. Look at this. This is intense. Oh, he's not getting up, Jim. Look at him. He's down. He's down. The other guy's laughing because he also can't believe he went down. Not a single head punch there. That guy was going full liver. Why would you? I mean, look at that. Oh, he's not. That's it. That's it.

Fight over. Wow. What are they fighting? Is that the basement where Kimbo Slice fought Sean Gannon? No, no. Our studio is next door. Jay, are you in my ear right now? Saying dumb shit, I'm sure.

Oh, look at this referee outfit. What is he getting? Is he serving tables at the country club where Daniel LaRusso spilled the spaghetti on him? This guy was bussing dishes just before this. But look at this guy's commitment to the body, man. Your body is banging, baby. You know? How do you want it? How do you want it?

Oh, how does it feel? Hey, let's go back to D.C. I'm circling the globe this week. Did you see the submission that Bryce Mitchell put on Matt Sales only the second time in UFC history that the twister came out? Yep. DC said on the broadcast that that's the most painful move in wrestling. Yeah, and he used a bicep grip.

It's called a guillotine, actually. Well, it's a way to pin in wrestling, and that was called a guillotine. So Eddie Bravo switched up the name so there wouldn't be any confusing. I think we need to call – Watch. Instead of using the C grip, he actually goes... That's one more jacket.

He goes to the bicep grip. Look at that. Oh, my God. How bad... I mean, I've played Twister with chicks before, but I never pulled out that move. That is fantastic. Yeah, I'm glad you're not abusing women.

What kind of a fucking statement is that? Jesus. I've never knocked a woman to fuck out playing Mike Tyson's punch-out. No, no, no. There's no knockout here. You're just, wow. So, Bryce Smith, did you see the interview afterwards?

This guy's like a redneck Richard Gere. This guy's got charisma. Dude, he's amazing. And by the way, do you remember his one request from Reebok? No. Make him a camo setup for Reebok. Wow. Camo shorts, camo shirt, camo rash guard.

How have they not done this yet? He's Hick D as 2.0. He's a modern day hero right here. All right. This one was sent in to me by my man Gaffney on the staff here. This is an NFL fan fight that broke out. People bringing MMA into this. Look at this chick fight.

Did you see the Muay Thai clinch in the knees right there? Dude, this is what? Don't drop that tall boy. Look at the guy in the Cardinals sweatshirt. He's like, yeah, get her. Get her. Okay. Yeah.

That's not a very helpful method of separation. Do you think when they role play later, the guy in the Cardinals sweatshirt will be the girl? Oh, my God. Look at the guy filming it. Look at him. So, wait a minute. Was this Rams versus Cardinals? Is that what I'm assuming?

Somebody's getting rammed. Wow, they're selling some big cans there. Dude, this is why I don't go to football games anymore. It's just heathens. Look at superfan number 99 putting it on her right there. Look at the guy smiling in the red shirt in the distance. Somebody break this up, please. Wow.

Look at the guy from the Jimmy Buffet concert in the distance. Oh my God. See him? He's like, cheeseburger in paradise, paradise. Even Rich Franklin cringes watching this. Wow. Yeah. Whew.

All right, we're going to roll on here. I don't know where this is from, but you ever see those punch machines and people think they're tough and you watch your girlfriend? Oh my gosh! Look out! Wow! Dude, that's like a metaphor for my career. That shit can fight, right? Dude, that's a nice punch. Look at this punch.

Oh my god. They didn't continue the video, but you think he went down into that As Desus and Mero would say, hold that. Oh my god, hold my soul. Look at this. Wow. I could watch this all day, Luke. Dude, that is a great punch. Unfortunately... That's a Deontay Wilder

punch off the front foot. I know I use that joke a lot, but I have had dates end like this. Yes, I have. Wow. Yeah, well, based on your Twitter descriptions, I find that the least surprising news imaginable. Alright, we're going to roll on into amateur wrestling, Luke. Soon you'll have children that'll be into it. Hopefully you'll be as jacked up and crazy as this dad watching his son there in the

blue. Yeah, I've seen this one. Look at this. We're going to restart it. OK, kids, go. Referee's position. Did we edit this wrong? Can we get to the dad?

What are we doing here? Yeah, I don't need to see the wrestling from referee's position. This will be a live fail for Jay in the back. He has to get his head out here. Remember before the show when Jay was like, I don't need to see the wrestling from referee's position. This will be a live fail for Jay in the back. He has to get his head out here. Remember before the show when Jay was like, we don't need to go over these videos. They're fine. He has to get his head out to the side here. Which he does. Now he should come around the back like that. Alright, alright. Parents are

cheering. Everything's going good. I think he's got what they call the bar arm. Okay, here comes Roy to dad. He's in the bullpen. He's ready. Oh my god! Get off my son! Wow. You know what, though? I don't really agree with the dad. Now, what is he mad about? Because, look, his head's going to pop.

Here, I'll show you. His head's going to pop through, and he's going to circle back, which you have to do to complete this takedown. What the fuck are you all doing back there? Here we go. One more time. Okay. I can't wait until you and Jay get on the mat afterwards.

Jesus, fuck. All right, here we go. The head is going to pop out in blue. Watch the guy in the head. Okay, there he goes. Fucking Lord, this is the worst highlight shit ever. Here he goes. Pops out.

He's going to circle around the back. Now he's got the other kid's arms. The kid in the blue's got his back. Wait, he's going to pin and then crank. This should be over like that. He's cranking and crying. Oh, wow. That's why.

All right, I see it now. I see it. Oh, my God, that kid's arm is stuck like that. Yeah, he fucked it up. So his dad came in, you know, and did the old... Don't need to get him a back scratcher for Christmas. All right, hey, let's keep this going here. You say all we do is talk dongs.

Here's some football for you. You love football. No dongs. Watch this save this guy makes in the soccer game. I don't know what country it's in. Look at that. Oh, God, I've hit the damn dong. Oh, my God.

Did you see this? It must be coincidence that you found this one. my God! Did you see this, Luke? It must be coincidence that you found this one. Seriously. What a save, though, right? I mean, you know, the downfall is we'll never have kids, but this one's great! Oh, my God! I want you to understand.

We start the day, I pre-record dissected. We start with me trying to explain the intricacies of fighting, and we end up with dudes getting kicked in the balls. That is what this show we end up with dudes getting kicked in the balls. That is what this show... Well, not everybody gets kicked in the balls. Hey, it's the holiday season. People like to dress up their animals and bring them out in public, and then they do something dumb, like they pee.

Can we get to the last one here? Oh, my God! Did you see him check his oil? That's fantastic! Look, I got a pet monkey. I brought him out in public. Let me just... First of all, it's not a monkey.

It's an orangutan. Sorry. Sorry there. Wow. Look at that. Bro, you ever see that the show Fox would do?

Oh, my... It'd be like Man vs. Beast. Yes. They would have some super jacked gymnast. They'd be like, okay,

this gymnast, and they'd show this orangutan. He'd be all fat and lazy and shit. And they'd be like, this gymnast is going to race... He knows where he's going, though.

See that? Play that forever. He's a primate. Why would he not? This gymnast is going to race. He knows where he's going, though. See that? Play that forever. He's a primate. Why would he not? This gymnast is going to race across the monkey bars with this primate. You think, okay, well, the primate should win, but he's all fat and lazy. This gymnast is super jacked. That gymnast would get like a 40-foot head start, and then the orangutan in like three motions would just smoke him.

I mean, great story, but I get embarrassed when my dog puts his face in people's crotches and sniffs around. This guy going right for it. I love this guy. You would sniff his hand out. I'd totally hang out with this guy. in people's crotches and sniffs around. This guy going right for it. I love this guy. You would sniff his hand out. I'd totally hang out with this guy. I'd dress him in those yellow shorts. Fantastic. You would take that orangutan paw.

You'd just go. That's my spirit animal. So what do you think? That was a good segment this week, right? Have you seen that shit? I mean, you know, it's a good combo, you and I. It's a good combo because I try to bring a serious, enlightening tone, and then you just light your farts on fire. All right. Hey, odds and ends time. You ready? Yes, it is time for odds and I. It's a good combo because I try to bring a serious, enlightening tone and then you just light your farts on fire.

Alright, hey, odds and ends time. You ready? Yes, it is time for odds and ends. You've got a bunch of other jobs I've got to let you out. Give me your odds and ends. By the way, shout out to Aspen Ladd for the big win this week after that pep talk on UFC DC in her corner. She looks like a title contender. She got it back on the tracks from that weird loss to GDR.

She didn't for the first two rounds. She did for the third. She's a potential savage at 35. I want to see her continue to develop. By the way, how about the screaming to the point where she lost control of the back? That was a fun fight altogether. A lot of weird stuff going on. And Tito Ortiz did the business. Did you see how little people were in the crowd?

I don't mean little people. I mean nobody in the crowd. How do you not paper that city of McAllen, Texas when you've been building this fight up? There was like 500 people in the crowd. Can I be honest? So I do 15 hours of radio a week, which means I do 60 segments. Last week, I did one segment on it.

And the only segment I did on it was mentioning Tito saying, Tito's like, I could beat Jon Jones, and how stupid for MMA media to report on that. I didn't care about that fight. It wasn't relevant. Sorry, you're better than all of us, Luke. I'm not better than all of you. I'm better than anyone who watched it. By the way, Tito's in great shape.

What is he? What is he? Is he? Yeah, he? Is he? Yeah, what is he doing? He'd be the guy who just, I mean, what are we doing? I just said his body shape, all right? I didn't say anything about the wig. Yeah, I'm sure he's in shape.

But, I mean, honestly, I just don't care. I don't care. It's not relevant to me at all. You must be fun to be married to. Yeah, because I have a distinguished palate, unlike you. I don't just, hey, what's this, garbage? Can you show the fans your T-shirt again? Look at that distinguished palette right there. It's only the best of that version. By the way, do you know how the Mega Powers ended?

I don't give a fuck, Brian Campbell! It's a preview for you and I, okay? It's a preview. It's going to end badly for you. It's like, what is this? Oh, is this banana peels and cigarette butts? My name's Brian Campbell. That sounds like a delicious drink. Why don't you just go to your other job already? What is it? For me, here's my odds and ends. Gordon Ryan faced off at Third Coast Grappling with Bo Nickel. Bo Nickel is arguably one of the best. Penn State, that's right. Three-time national champion.

His last two years at Penn State, he didn't lose a single match. He's trying out for the Olympics. And in the preparation for that, let's see. You were supposed to get Adolfo Vieira, the MMA, well, he's a jujitsu great, but he's now an MMA fighter for UFC. He fell out. Then it was going to be Herbert Santos. And then he fell out. So they had Bo Nickel, who's brilliant, never trained jujitsu. They modified the rules. Bo Nickel threw Gordon Ryan around. But once it went to the ground, he got submitted quickly. But I'll say this, Brian Campbell, expect to see more of theseiu-jitsu crossovers in these weird

main events where the rules are just out of nothing. They just kind of make them up and they kind of adjust them because I bet you there's a market for that. How big? I don't know, but big. Reminds me of Kimbo Petruzzelli when they paid him not to take the fight to the ground. Did you see Bo Nickel's suplex?

That was fantastic. That was really nice. Well, you had Gordon Ryan bent over trying to do something called Donkey Guard. You ever heard of that? It's a, yeah. Kama Sutra playbook, once again? Might as well be. It's from Jeff Glover.

He did a, he tried to do Donkey Guard, and he got launched for it. By the way, that orangutan clip, it kind of reminds me of that scene in Paul Hogan. What's it? Crocodile Dundee? Yes, where he didn't know if the person he was about to kiss was a man or woman, so he just... Oh, 80s. That's filth. It's just filth.

Nothing like 80s casual discrimination. That's great. That's great. Nothing like that. Have you ever gone... We've got a little bit of time left. Have you ever gone back and watched 80s classics? Bad.

Bad in terms of the... Dude, they're like all in on... Have you ever gone back and watched... Hold on. They're like... I watch Revenge of the Nerds. Dude, Revenge of the Nerds is literally pro-rape. I'm not exaggerating.

It's super pro-rape. Hair to pie? What's the one where the guy has to get the panties of the girl? And it's like, what's her face? 16 Candles. 16 Candles. Pro-rape. He's like, oh, she's asleep.

Why don't you take her home? She'll never know it's me. I'm like, what? I couldn't believe. Dude, it's, you know's and then they had the Asian character and he had kind of a fucked up name. Hey, we came from different times, Luke, alright? I'm not saying those times were better. I didn't think about it in real

time. You go back and you watch it as an adult, you're like, whoa. I went back and watched the Andrew Dice Clay comedy special, that big one at the peak of his career, the one where he comes out to the Allman Brothers song and then he does, I mean, it's just,in' from another time that it's... Dude, even Eddie Murphy specials.

You ever seen Eddie Murphy specials like Raw and Delirious? It's like 20 minutes on how much he dislikes gay people. Yeah, it was a different time. And I'm glad we've cleaned it up, okay? That's why people come to the show because they know Have You Seen This Shit is like a time warp to the old days. Yeah, I guess so. All right, well, with that in mind, as always, please like the video, subscribe to the channel. You can follow us on social media.

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