MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Max Holloway vs. Yair Rodriguez | Dana White | Jon Jones | Devin Haney | Ep 162

Episode Date: May 28, 2021

On episode 162 of Morning Kombat Brian and Luke discuss Max Holloway vs. Yair Rodriguez for July 17th. Is this the right fight to make (11:20)? Dana White did some interviews talking about Francis Ngannou vs. Derrick Lewis, Diego Sanchez and Jon Jones' new Management team member (19:15). Devin Haney faces Jorge Linares this Saturday for Haney's WBC lightweight title (41:00). The guys preview that along with Showtime boxing's card featuring Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire for Oubaali's WBC bantamweight title (33:15). Oh yeah... BC flew to Puerto Rico for an exclusive interview with Logan Paul. The guys discuss the interview and realistically if he has any chance of beating Floyd Mayweather (47:50). 'Morning Kombat’ is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts.    For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit: store.sho.com   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat  To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you want to give us the audience more details, you can. But I was just given some details about what we are doing next week. It's going to be fun. It's going to be it's going to be different. It's going to be fun. As big. I think I describe it as big boy shit, Luke. Right. For us, it is. But yeah, it's definitely, you know, It's going to be fun. I think I'd describe it as big boy shit, Luke, right?

For us it is, but yeah, it's definitely, you know, we're not on the Desus and Mero level, nor should we. We haven't earned it, but we're on our way. We're on our way. Yeah, I'm fired up. I'm ready. You guys are going to have a lot of fun with us next week. All things, you know, bragging rights, June 6th,

obviously the Showtime pay-per-view, Floyd and Logan. And Luke, obviously we teased it earlier this week. I was in, obviously, the Showtime pay-per-view. Floyd and Logan and Luke, obviously, we teased it earlier this week. I was in Puerto Rico interviewing the Fall Brothers. We're going to have a lot of talk on that later in the show. But in addition to liking and subscribing this video, in addition to checking out Luke's live chat on Thursday, we always have so much great bonus

content coming your way. Gervonta Davis sat down with me. You can check that out right now at Morning Combat slash YouTube ahead of his fight on Showtime Pay-Per-View June 26th. Luke, you and I yesterday sat in front of these here microphones and recorded a bonus holiday show of Morning Combat answering the viewer questions. It's going to run on Monday, on Memorial Day.

They can check that out. And also, Luke, coming later today on showtime sports's youtube page on showtime sports's social channels it's going to be your boy bc and logan paul here's just a little here's just a little taste just put it out just you know just get like this okay i'm gonna just do it please you say take everything away what does that mean i mean think about it the the poster says bragging rights floyd beats me what bragging rights are there you beat a youtuber like good job i beat floyd his whole life means absolutely nothing 50 wins but you lost to a podcasting pokemon collecting youtuber

so yeah he's got a lot on the table i'm just going in there no fucks given and luke that's similar to you because you have bought in now on next week you're going to miami no fucks given yeah i mean i don't know if i've bought in on the idea that this is an interesting fight in fact i'm pretty sure i have it but uh i've bought in on the idea that complaining about it constantly has certainly gotten me nowhere might as well just smile about it i will will say, you standing next to him, you two look like you're different species. I just, you can't even believe these are both homo sapiens? Wow, I wouldn't have been, you know.

I mean, he's rock hard with emotion and chiseled. I was a bit doughy and sweaty, Luke. So, unfortunately, the fitness. That gym, by the way, correct me if I'm wrong, I couldn't tell, but that gym looked like it was maybe 10,000 degrees inside. It was hot as hell on the streets. My hands were all bloody, Luke, from punching on the concrete.

Goddamn, homie. I mean, look at me right there. I look like just a sweaty old dad, and that is exactly what happened. Luke, I picked that floral pattern to try to distract the viewers from my extra weight and my complexion. It didn't work. I'm sorry. It didn't work. Well, I'm sure the interview was good.

I absolutely will watch it. And just to remind folks, just because they may have missed it, the video of your interview with Logan Paul, it's not going to be posted on the MK channel. You've got to go to the show's sports YouTube channel. Did I get that right? That is correct. Later later today at some point also i believe uh logan will probably be sharing it to his 1 trillion followers across some you know social uh channels we haven't even heard of before because we're 41 and 42 years old but that's the story morning glory uh i'm ready for this show luke you want to tell the people the update we have on Merge 2.0?

Yeah, you want me to make armpit noises for the next 50 hours? Because that's about all it's worth with the updates. By the way, you keep mentioning my shirt. It's the same one. It's not the same one, although admittedly, the front thing looks the same. Shouts to this company called Notorious Bastards. I don't know if you can kind of see. This is the this is their logo here.

I've got up there. It's like a sort of a tattoo kind of chic thing you can see here I got sort of Japanese styled images on the back oh nice I like show the back Luke show the back what is that a tiger yeah it's supposed to be I think okay

yeah show the Jurassic back you're working on there nice I like that yeah yeah yeah so so shouts to them. I've got a bunch of different stuff on the back. But yes, they look the same. Technically not the same. And I didn't mean to shame you on going back to the well in the same wardrobe. I mean, we praise Bill and Jen and their RV for wearing our shit every third day, right?

Yeah. Now, listen, if you were to say, Luke, do you shower inconsistently? This is a claim I could not argue against. But it is technically a new shirt i mean while we're showing off t-shirts luke it is friday i try to play like a champion on friday so you know uh shout out to my man brandon wise at cbs sports who once gifted me with this i mean you know yeah yeah man i yeah i got a phone or indeed luke all right uh before we get canceled here we might as well get into the show anything else luke anything else what you what do you have

plans for this weekend okay yo abuela gonna put some shit on the grill what's happening no no i don't i'm not too big on the whole i like grilling but i don't make it a huge priority but monday monday the guy who married my wife and i and then our other best friends of the three of us became friends in college we've been friends ever since. The guy who married my wife and I is also my personal attorney for all my contracts and stuff. He moved to D.C. And then the other guy, my friend who moved to Switzerland, he moved back to D.C. for the summer. So he's here for the summer. He just had, well, I should say just, but obviously he's been in Switzerland.

He has a six-month-old baby boy, and he's got a three-year-old girl. So we're all going to get together on Monday, and we're all going to get the kids together, and we're all going to hang out. And, you know, I wouldn't call that the most exciting life in the world, but it's mine, and I like it. Hey, for the summer, for the summer. I bet he likes girls that wear.

No, we're not going down that road. All right, Luke, you know, Showtime.com, 30-day free trial. You know that business right there. So let's get into the good stuff here. A light weekend, as we talked about, still have some combat sports news to get into. Our top story of the day here on Friday. Really good UFC featherweight fight has been announced and slated July 17th. I'm not sure the location, but former champion Max Holloway taking on the always exciting Yair Rodriguez

Luke when you hear those two savages being put into the same sentence your reaction is I hope Yair's ready uh I love this fight because Rodriguez is absolutely a sort of come forward kind of guy. He's unusual, high flying, certainly full of creativity and flow. And to an extent, artistry I think is fair as well. But Max Holloway should be a lot better. I mean, this is a major step up from what Rodriguez has typically been fighting. He's not been fighting chumps, but Max Holloway is a totally different order of opponent. BC, I'll tell you this. I love the fight because I think for Max, staying busy is the right call. This is a credentialed opponent that I think has a chance at win. I don't think it's a great one, but certainly if you're Max,

you have to take that seriously. For Yair, it would be a signature win. Again, the fight itself is going to be amazing but i just can't help but look at this and think to myself you know did the ufc try to send a message to yair with this matchmaking did they did they try to tell them you know we've been what what is that message what are you implying i'm curious what are you implying what is the message i don't know i don't know what the message is but it's hard for me to look at this and think that what the way that the matchup came to be was

strictly strictly listen to my words strictly a function of well he's available he's available they both want it I tend to think there might be some thinking in the promotion about you know for Yair shit or get off the pot where are we with this whole thing where are you coming or going?

What are we going to do with you as a real contender for the future? Would you say that this is Dana and Mick Maynard saying, if you're going to come on, then... Yeah. I mean, listen, Yair has shown great ability, and he's got some good wins. But he's got some bad losses, and he's got some wins by the skin of his teeth, even if they were exciting against the korean zombie max holloway is the ultimate ultimate proving ground i mean volkanovski is the champion can barely barely controversially beat him you

know this is a very tough out for you here and i think that the ufc is kind of asking all right man are you going to be something or are you not? We're going to find out. I want to half dead wrong you here. And I don't know if it's a dead wrong. Let me present like this. When this fight got announced, right, just in the past 24 hours, I saw it and I was like, oh, God, yeah. Like, because we know where we're at in the overall title picture. Volkanovski's the champion.

He's got Brian Ortega next. They're filming the ultimate fighter. That's sort of locked up right there for a while. Max just fought Calvin Cater, and I understand. It was one of the greatest, most dominant, one-sided, elite-level performances we've ever seen. If you had any doubt, Max coming off the two losses to Volkanovski, is he still the same? Yeah, yeah, he's still the same guy, all that and then some, right?

You know, short Hawaiian and handsome, indeed. But your reaction was the same as I saw on Twitter. The same as I saw in my CBS Sports slacks with my fellow combat guys there was, oh shit, you know, good fight, but buckle up, Yair. You're in for a, you know, you're in for a pasting. And the reason why I said dead wrong is you just said, you know, Yair's had some big losses too. Yet I call up his profile here at age 28 luke he's actually 10 and 1 since 2013 now he was stopped dr stoppage

in round two against frankie edgar four years ago and yes he was on his way to losing a spectacular five-round slugfest with the korean zombie before that, that awesomely weird shit in the last second right there, Luke. And then he had the weird two fight series with Jeremy Stevens in which he came out on top. But, but like, where's the issue there?

Where's the fight where you're like, I'm not saying I'd favor him, dude. Holloway looks like a million dollars right now. And I don't care if you watch that second fight 49 more times. I was there. I still think, or was I there? I don't even know anymore, but second fight 49 more times. I was there. I still think, or was I there?

I don't even know anymore. But I still think Max beat Volkanovski. But where's your doubt on, like, Yair deserving this or feeling like he can't be competitive and even win this when you look at his last eight years? Luke, he's lost just one time, bro. All right, so the time against Frankie, he got crushed. I mean, I just say what it is, which is fine.

Frankie was just a bad matchup for him at that time. That's okay. The two other fights, though, granted, he only has the one loss. That's fine. But the two other fights that sort of stand out to me are one of the Korean Zombie win. I mean, to be clear, he was losing that fight. It was back and forth, but Korean Zombie was walking him down and landing significantly more. The other part about the Stevens fight is he faded bad in that fight. If it had gone to like a fourth or fifth round,

had it been in the original main event, it would have been a disaster for him. He was strong early and I'll give him credit, but he faded down the stretch and Jeremy was putting it on him late. You know, against a guy like Max Holloway, that is an unforgivable mistake. You will lose the bout if you have that kind of a problem against him. No doubt about it. So to me, he's got a good record, maybe even a very good record. But the reason why it's a big difference is, one, Max is a modular striker. He can switch stances, go different angles.

He can do whatever kind of approach from a stance, distance, jabbing, and timing perspective that he needs to to disrupt someone else's rhythm and really put his jab in their face. He's very, very good at that. He's good at adapting. More to the point, what the problem with Rodriguez is, those high-flying things that he does, I think that's directly draining to his cardio. I think it misses a lot against the better opposition. And you're talking about the guy who is either, if not the best featherweight on earth,

you know, a hair away from it. The difference between him and Volkanovski is minimal. Dude, this is an uphill climb for Yair Rodriguez. Winnable, winnable, but uphill climb.

Oh, you, I'll give you credit. You answered that devil's advocate question perfectly with convincing responses there, but considering he's only 28 and let's not forget the recent resurgence slash reinvention we saw from somebody like charlie olives um you know is it still is there still reason to believe the

best of yair hasn't been shown yet yes that's a fair point you know we this is why you got to temper your enthusiasm it's like if what we know is what we've seen if that's the truth of the future then yair is probably in big trouble. If, on the other hand, that the future is a little bit more complicated, maybe all the damage will begin to catch up with Max. We'll see signs of it. And maybe, to your point, this continued maturation of Yair will produce fruit we have not seen to this point. That is very plausible. That's entirely plausible, and you have to allow room for it. So when we make our analyses, all we really go off on is not just what we've seen, but where we think the trajectory is taking these guys. And for Yair, up to this point, I've certainly seen enough development to take him

very seriously. He's a very, very good fighter. I just don't know if I've seen the kinds of things that make me think he has what it takes to take on someone who's got the very complete fundamentals that a guy like Max Holloway does. When I say fundamentals, I don't mean basics, BC. I mean all the foundational skills that build a really strong game. He's got them all. Yeah, good share with you. That is one week after Conor Dustin, three at International Fight Week. Misha Tate is also on that card in her comeback fight against Marion Reynaud. Looking forward to both of those indeed, Luke. Let's keep the train rolling here on this Friday. Topic two, Luke, is, you know, I'm sorry, it happens. When UFC President Dana White speaks publicly, we often have things to react to. Luke, Dana has responded to some

interesting news which broke Wednesday directly after we finished morning combat. Jon Jones, who seems to be at the moment on the outside looking in in these very public negotiations for a fight against Francis Ngannou at heavyweight for the title. In fact, UFC has outwardly said we've moved on past him. We've got Derek Lewis up next. We've got Stipe in the bullpen if needed. Jon Jones went out, Luke, and he hired, of all people, boxing promoter Richard Schaefer to be his new, quote, advisor. Now, if you're not familiar with the Swiss banker himself, Richard Schaefer, he came to prominence when he joined with Oscar De La Hoya to launch Golden Boy promotions back when Oscar was still fighting. And if you don't know now,

you know Richard Schaefer was the brains behind that. He was the one who promoted all of those early Floyd Mayweather blockbuster pay-per-views on Showtime against Canelo, against whomever, until him and Oscar had that very public fallout when Richard Schaefer tried to essentially get Oscar to sign Golden Boy with Al Heyman. And when Al Heyman went public in 2015, it was supposed to, you know, and started the PBC and put it on multiple networks. It was supposed to be Golden, you know, Golden Boy promotions as the promoter of that. Oscar said, no, we know the story. He pulled out, he took Canelo with him and he went in another direction. Richard has come back since that Luke and had middling success as a boxing promoter. But this is pretty big news. And what made the news bigger

was Dana's response when he said, quote, I like Richard. I've known Richard for a long time. And obviously he built Golden Boy. He built that company. He knows what he's doing. He's a smart guy. I like and respect him. And if we can get something done, we will. Luke, I don't know if you heard subsequently, Richard Schaefer was a guest yesterday on the SiriusXM show hosted by, what is it, RJ Clifford and Dean Thomas? That's right.

I listened to that as well, and I'll talk about that in a second. But what is your response to this decision by John and Dana's very positive reaction? I think it's smart. I think it's smart. I mean, listen, the situation that he had with front, is it first round management, FRM, it was broken. It was broken, right?

Because there was only two possibilities. One, first round management is trying to negotiate this and failing. Or two it was explained to me John was on his own still involved with them but basically you know whatever we've not gotten John's perspective but he didn't like them doing it or he maybe didn't even trust them to do it whatever whatever his reasons may be he was the one trying to negotiate on his behalf and I think it was just a poisoned, untenable situation. So he blew it up. They all blew it up and decided to go their separate ways. I think all the parties are happier here. He went to somebody in boxing. Now, as you know, BC, sometimes that can be a bit of a gamble. For example, Holly Holmes' manager is her original boxing manager. And Holly Holmes and Dana have

butted heads on a, or Holly Holmes' manager, I should say, have butted heads on a number of occasions. He's an old school boxing guy. He's kind of like, you know, he's a little rough around the edges whenever I've dealt with him, but he really takes care of Holly's interests and has done as well for her as I think someone could expect. Richard Schaefer being liked by Dana because of what he has done in the boxing business, I think is a fresh perspective. It's a fresh set of eyes. And the thing about him, in addition to getting with Richard as an advisor, BC, is that he also said, you know, I'm going to wait a little bit. I'm going to come back maybe the end of the year, the beginning of the next year.

I like that he said clean break from his old management company. Again, it was already mostly broken, but fully clean break. And then let's take a step back from the situation. It's too acrimonious. They're still negotiating in public. I guarantee you Richard says, hit the pause button a little bit. Keep working on your craft. Let's get back this a little bit down the road when they're looking ahead for their future.

And then let's reinvest in this conversation. Because this guy does understand the pay-per-view space and how to promote a star space. Richard Schaefer does understand that. I don't know if they're going to get a deal done, but I'll say this. Has my confidence gone up in the possibility of it? 1000%. Do you feel the same? You don't see Dana react like that. Like, seriously, it was a very shocking reaction for him to be like, okay, you know, that's a good guy I trust and respect.

And, you know, I listened to the interview with Richard on the SiriusXM show and it was very, very well done. And, you know, some things he talked about, Luke, was, you know, he may not have MMA experience, but he's got insane experience promoting pay-per-view blockbusters and the distribution of the different wealth streams within that. I think that's important. Now, look, you know, one thing Floyd with Al Heyman as the genius behind him did an incredible job and sort of changed the game was eliminating the power of the middleman, like the promoter as the guy who's gobbling everything up. And as we always talk about, you know, Floyd set the prices of the hot dogs in the arena and the t-shirts. I mean, Floyd had his hands in every piece of revenue to have somebody like, like

Richard, who's, you know know easy to talk to and smart and understands maybe even how to bring even more you know pay-per-view money in for the ufc and can work with dana not just somebody who's dana's going to get along with and respect but can figure out okay you don't want to pay john a ton of a guarantee let's say well how can we figure out other ways to bring in money to make this happen? John's the greatest of all time. Like, why are we doing this? It's a lot better, Luke, than where we're at, obviously. And where we're at is a public negotiation and that never works. And that's something Richard said in that interview. He's like, the first thing I'm going to do guys is stop talking about what happens behind the scenes in front of it. I'm not going to,

you know, have a meeting with Dana and then do 20 interviews and break down what happened. Like we're going to go behind the scenes and we're going to slowly, but surely figure that out. That's great news. If you are a John fan and you want to see him maximize his ceiling and go to heavyweight and see if he can become a two division champion. And, you know, Richard maybe overstepped his bounds by saying, he's saying he thinks John versus Francis could be the biggest fight in UFC history and anybody listening saying hearing me saying that saying BC didn't you say that could do two million pay-per-view but I mean yeah I still believe that if promoted correctly and put it in the stadium with 80,000 people it could be a monster so Richard's not like wrong in saying

that but maybe to your point let's step back let's take the time to build that and if all of us have to sit through the idea of Nganou versus Lewis first, and maybe even Nganou versus Stipe again, for all we know, if Nganou can come out of that, and if in the process, John and Dana can get back on at least speaking terms and understanding each other, that could be a really freaking huge fight. That means so much, because Nganou's star would be bigger by that point. Would we all want that fight right now?

Is there a danger in letting it stretch out obviously but at least this is uh some water in the desert so to speak Luke a little bit of a you know a little bit of hope in this situation you don't often see Dana buy in in this spot especially with managers and shit so for him to be like yeah let's do this let's do this Luke let's see what happens also real quickly I have to just add bc and i know you can appreciate this when i first got into mma coverage of any kind even just at an amateur hobbyist level you know it wasn't just that i mean boxing was in a different position it was the superior uh combat sport in the sense of what it meant for uh revenue generation and in the american

consciousness and whatever like you had guys at the time, Mayweather and Pacquiao, who could pull two million buys almost routinely. It was just amazing at the time. And Canelo was coming up. Like MMA just couldn't produce the same kind of numbers, even though it was growing at an exponential rate. And the two worlds were kind of distinct. Dude, like the walls between MMA and boxing, they're still there in many ways.

But a lot of the old ones are collapsing. Look at Clarissa Shields. She's making her debut, you know, I think next week or very, very soon. Obviously, now you're getting advisors from boxing coming over. There's a lot more cross-training that's happened. We're looking at this Triller thing, which is kind of a weird mix in some ways. Like, dude, this did not exist 15 years ago at all and you got to kind of it's a I think an example of uh where both sports are and they're a lot more equal maybe even MMA a little bit more popular which was unthinkable when I first started seeing what Richard Schaefer was doing yeah and I don't

want to gloss over as a true boxing guy here there is a little bit of controversy surrounding Richard of course with the way the golden boy split. And here's the crux of it real quick. When Al Heyman brought all of his big name fighters from HBO to Showtime in 2013, the big news was that Floyd signed that six fight deal, which was landmark. And it obviously produced killer numbers. You know, they brought all these great fighters with them and had this giant stable at Showtime. But the key here is that they didn't sign like exclusive deals with Golden Boy promotions they were fight by fight and once oscar sort of realized that he looked at it as a richard betrayal that richard was siding with al hayman and that was part of oscar waking up who you know you always hear reports luke oscar's the face of golden boy but he ain't really running it so to

speak behind the scenes that became apparent little bit of controversy there richard obviously still a smart man so we'll see what happens. I mentioned Dana. I'm not sure if this was specifically from his interview with Kevin Aioli or not. I don't have accreditation here. But he talked about the idea that Ngannou's going to move on and he's going to fight Derek Lewis. And here's the quote. Derek Lewis is getting that fight.

My people were just telling me that Jon Jones came out yesterday and said he's not fighting until next year. We just had a great experience in Houston. I'll probably take that fight back to Houston. Luke, that's looking like what, August we're going in that direction? Something August or September. Yeah. Something like that is my, is the best I can tell. By the time that fight comes, will we not focus on John enough and just focus on the fact that that's pretty fricking fun fight, even though they fought once already and it sucked the horn this rematch could be incredible i i think that the fight if the fight ends up being good i think it will limit to an extent how much john jones conversation there is but there do you know as well as i do everything before that fight every result that comes after that fight if francis looks amazing people are gonna say john's in trouble if he looks terrible terrible, everyone's going to say John's going to be the new champion

or some combination of the two or somewhere in between. There's no denying he is, you know, boogeyman, I don't know, but he casts a shadow over that division. Until that's resolved, it will be in play. Indeed. Dana was also presented with the news that Diego Sanchez, of course, has cut ways with Joshua Fabia as his trainer, shaman, best friend,

masseuse, only fans, account manager, social media advisor, maybe more Luke behind the scenes. I don't know. I don't care. Okay.

Right. Weirdo. Okay. School of self-awareness guru um cook mechanic barber tattoo artist all day or you're just gonna gonna get to the point here uh so here's what dana said about the idea of diego ever fulfilling what they originally set out to do which was a final career-ending retirement fight with the UFC. Dana says, I don't know.

I honestly don't know. Even when we were doing a farewell fight, I didn't love it. I didn't love the fact that he's still fighting. But no matter what I do, if I let Diego go, he'll probably end up somewhere else. That's what I was thinking at the time, and I love the kid. He wanted one more fight. I'm going to give it to him, and then all hell broke,

or I was going to give it to him, and then all hell broke, or I was going to give it to him, and then all hell broke loose, and here we are today. Luke, it seemed in this interview that he was, like, debating publicly if he's going to open that door back up now that Fabio's out of the picture. Luke, I feel like this is just a horrible idea altogether. Can we just end this? Like, Diego, you're great. We love you.

You had a Hall of Fame fight that got recognized and put in the Hall of Fame. I don't think you're a Hall of Famer, but you had a almost hall of fame level impact. I'll give you credit that your career sustained and had longevity, even though you're an OG, you're a warrior, you're batshit crazy. And we love it. I don't need one more Luke. No. For what? I mean, someone asked me in the live chat yesterday, oh, now that Diego and Joshua Fabia have split, would you want to interview both of them? Like, for what? Like, what gold is there to mine at this point?

What would be the purpose of having this conversation? I've heard everything I need to hear from Joshua Fabia, probably, and then some. And certainly Diego, I think, has probably got some issues to work through. He's got this new attorney. I leave that to them. But to go in there and just hear more accusatory, you know, just these allegations are going to level at each other when there's no real way to adjudicate it. Why do I want to hear that?

And then, you know, I, if you're not going to give him a contract or give him a fight because you have apprehensions about it, then the most ethical next step is not to trap him in a contract. It's to let him go and then let someone else deal with the moral complications of it. I know that that's not a perfect answer, but that's the world we live in, dude. He has a right to go and do whatever the government giving a license will say he can do. And we just kind of have to live with it a little bit. So, you know, to me, this is like I'm very much over this situation, and I hope

others are as well. Yeah, we don't need to see, you know, Diego doing one more against BJ Penn. I mean, there's still enough of a possible chance that they'll have one more in a parking lot outside of a strip club in Hawaii. Like, we don't want anything bad happening. Luke, Diego has entered the old stripper stage of his career. It's fair. It's fair. It's unfair, but it's fair, okay?

I mean, I don't like putting it in those terms, but I'll let you do that. Okay, okay. Okay, Maniche is live chatting me here. Okay, all right. Thank you, Maniche. He has a full-screen graphic. Yeah, thanks so much.

I appreciate that. All right, let's roll on here, Luke. Showtime Boxing is back. Showtime Championship Boxing, fact this Saturday night 10 p.m eastern a triple header back where it belongs the war grounds or as more Rinaldo so cleverly put it a couple weeks back the punch bowl it is that great tennis arena dignity health sports park in Carson California StubHub Home Depot Center whatever the hell you used to call it. And Luke, there's a bit of like history and legend status here at play when the great four division champion, 38-year-old

Nonito Donair, the Filipino Flash, comes back in yet another big fight against unbeaten Southpaw and French WBC Bantamweight champion, this is 118 pounds. Nordin Ubali. Luke, this fight was originally scheduled for 2020. Somebody got COVID. Then they got a new opponent. Then somebody else got COVID. Both guys beat COVID in their back. It's an 18-month layoff for both.

You may remember that Donair had the fight of the year in 2019 in December in Japan against the monster Naoya Inoue, who is number two on my pound for pound list. Luke Ubali was on that co-main. He beat Inoue's younger brother and handed him his first defeat. But here we are, Luke, and I know that this may look at paper like, you know, if you don't know better, whatever. But here's the deal. Donair is already the oldest fighter to win a title at 118 pounds when he did it three years ago when he beat Ryan Burnett at 35 years old. He's now 38 years and 204 days old entering this fight on Saturday, and he could shatter that record. And I want to really double down on this here.

Luke, you and I talk about this in both boxing and MMA. It is insanely hard in the lower weight classes to stay relevant. Yes, Donair has big power and that puncher's chance, but he went in there against the pound-for-pound best last time out, Inoue, one of those guys who was in that discussion, and he broke Inoue's eye socket, Luke, and they had a 12-round slugfest. And time and time again, he keeps proving that he's not done. This twilight of Donair's career has been incredible.

He won't stop seeking out big names. Does he lose to some of them, like Carl Frampton, whatever? Yes. But he's also beaten guys in between and rebuilt himself. He's almost entering like a Bernard Hopkins-type run of his career where it's like, we already thought he was old, yet he won't stop taking big chances. Luke, this fight on paper is pretty damn close. It's just above the 50-50, meaning I think William Hill has Donair currently, if I can look up my odds on this list, at plus 230, minus 303 for Ubali. So, you know, Donair's a live dog. How much respect at 38?

I mean, you remember this guy in that, you know, Rigondel fight back in like 2013, back when he was pound for pound number two in the world. He's still at it, Luke. He is still at it. And I've been reading a lot of like previews of it. And I've been watching some tape and anticipating the fight, but also today's show. I'll tell you where I come down. I wonder what you make of it and I've been watching some tape and anticipating anticipation of the fight but also today's show I'll tell you where I come down and I wonder what you make of it the one thing I

keep coming back to that I think gives Ubali Ubali by the way not a huge favorite in fact how many times we come on here and the odds are always like you know 2,000 this way and plus 1,000 that way not this one Nordin Ubali is the favorite, but not by much by boxing standards. Minus 310 to Donair's plus 255. That is very, I mean, you get other fights on the card, you got a minus 7500 favorite. So you're talking about a very narrow set of odds between two people. But here's where I keep coming back to BC for all the things you said. The power of Donair is still there. I get real Hendo vibes from him. You know how Hendo had that period in his career

right before his chin went really soft, where he was kind of vulnerable, but still super powerful. It's a little bit in that space. The thing that gives me the nod towards Ubali, though, two things. One, control of range, I thought, he shines on tape for that. But this one, though, two things. One, control of range, I thought, he shines on tape for that.

But this one, BC, speed. The footwork of Ubali, quick. Hand speed, quick. He just seems to be a lot more nimble than someone at this stage than Donair has shown us. But, to your point, they both had COVID. They've had some lengthy layoffs. There's some lingering questions in either way. What do you make of my assessment? The speed, not just just his hands but his body and his feet of Ubali I think that might give down the stretch if you can avoid the big punch someone

like Donair some trouble it's almost exactly what I wrote this morning in my preview of this fight for CBS sports where it's like Ubali's got an aggressive style but if you read the CompuBox numbers his style sort of disarms his opponents because he's tricky, he's a southpaw, but because he flurries in and out and he really lowers the punch output of his opponents. Now, that isn't, if you're a Donair fan, that's not as much of a fear because Donair is, at this stage, he almost is like Dan Hendo. It's kind of a perfect comparison.

He holds that right hand up like Henderson would hold the H-bomb and just be like, you know what's coming, bro. This is what I got, and I'm going to bring it. So I think for Donair, it's going to be hard to win rounds against this guy unless you can hurt him and drop him. So he's going to have to stalk for the knockout. I think Ubali, though, if you watch him, he's had some nice wins to get to this point. He's held that belt. It'll now be his third title defense. Held it for a few years now. If he can get to the distance, if he can go to the 12, Luke, I like Ubali to win here.

And I think he is awkward and quick enough to avoid trouble yet, Luke, yet. I know it's been 18 months since we've seen Donair. I cannot express to you how impressive it was what he did against Naioa Inoue 18 months ago. Inoue's unbeaten. He's like a three-division champion. Every weight class

he moves up to, he knocks people the hell out. And Donair took his best shots and then broke his eye socket. So here's what's wild, Luke, is Donair has gone as high the last decade as 126 pounds. He had two separate runs there. He lost to

Frampton to end the second one. He lost to Nicholas Walters, who for a short season, the Jamaican was a killer, was a knockout artist. And Donair got knocked out, and we thought he was kind of done then, Luke. But 118 has always been his best weight, and he can still cut down to it, and he's dangerous as shit at it. You have to like Ubali's chances here. But, Luke, how about this stat?

If Donair wins this fight and and wins yet another title and he's already by the way like a stamped future hall of famer four division champion he was as high as pound for pound number two almost a decade ago he will become the 11th boxer in history and just the ninth male to win a recognized world title in three different decades i mean the list of guys who have done that is like Pacquiao, Holyfield, Sugar Ray Robinson, Hopkins, the great Jorge Arce, Mayweather, Eric Morales, Chocolatito, a couple other names thrown in there, a couple female fighters as well, including Cecilia Bracus, who was the undisputed welterweight champion.

I mean, look, that is like, you know, I don't care if there's too many belts these days, and there are. You win titles in three different decades. I mean, especially at the low weight divisions. I mean, this is a special guy who's always kind of been in Manny Pacquiao's shadow in a way because they're both from the Philippines. And he was kind of like Manny Jr. from a marketing standpoint. But he's really ironing out

such a special and fun career. This is worth your time, folks, Saturday night, 10 p.m. Eastern on Showtime. Looking forward to it. And, Luke, you know that arena. You know that frickin' history there. Shit happens at that place, Luke, okay? Yes, it does. Vasquez Marquez, okay?

Bradley Provodnikov, you know? We did Vasquez Marquez. okay. Bradley Provodnikov, you know. We did Vasquez Marquez. What was it called? Morning Combat Classics? Whatever the fuck it was called. Yeah, something like that. That was a great way to make extra money and get drunk on the air during the quarantine. Because I was getting drunk anyway during the quarantine.

So that turned out really well. Yes, I did a lot of drinking myself. All right, Luke. That is going on. And also this Saturday in the boxing game on DAZN, a very interesting fight. 22-year-old Devin Haney, Luke, has the WBC lightweight title. I know you're confused because there's too many belts, and there are. Teofimo Lopez Jr., who's coming back on Triller in about a week or two against Cambosos,

he has all four lightweight titles, including the WBC franchise champion, which is bullshit, Luke. But it is what it is. 22-year-old Devin Haney is one of those guys that we have tabbed as like the futures of the sport at this division. You got Gervonta. You got Teo. You got freaking Ryan Garcia. You got, you know, I love Shakur Stevenson, who's going to move up soon. Haney is great, but he has had a hard time getting in there against elite competition. They don't want to fight him. Finally, we got a guy, maybe a little bit too old to call elite, but a guy who can give him a tough-ass chance here. 35-year-old Jorge Linares, who is one of the most,

you know, slickest and most beautiful boxers from the standpoint of combinations and angles that we've seen in this game. He's still got some juice juice left it's only been a few years since he went in there against Vasily Lomachenko and dropped him and was very competitive before being stopped late Luke this is looked at even though the odds makers have Haney as a almost laughable favorite here I think it's like you know it's insane this is a great test of where Devin Haney's at. It is. I'm not sure what to make of Lenore. He's 35 years old. I went back and I watched the, you know,

you can say it's not super representative of his ability, but in some ways it is because when he gets stopped, it tends to happen early. But I went back and I watched the Cano fight. You know, he got run over in that fight quickly. But he moved up to 140, Luke, and he found out it ain't for him, right? Yeah, fast, fast. I mean, he couldn't even deal.

It's funny because it wasn't just the power of Cano. It was the speed. He was catching him over the top of his jab. Just great time. Well, I should say good timing anyway. You know, not the weight class for him from a size standpoint, not the weight class for him

from a physicality standpoint. And even just frankly, I didn't know what advantage he was taking with him into that fight. Okay, and then since then he had a couple of rebound matches. But the point being is, if you did look at his record a little bit

in some of the fights where he has stumbled, it has tended to happen a little bit early. Lomachenko a little bit later, but that is there. So the question for me is, with a guy like Haney, I don't see Haney on tape. You see, he doesn't come off to me, tape. BC, he doesn't come off to me still young,

but it doesn't come off to me as like devastating puncher. I don't really see that. He doesn't come off to me as like the guy with like the quickest speed, although he is obviously very athletic and quick, but he does do one thing that I've noticed. He doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He's very careful. Sometimes,

sometimes to a fault, like maybe in the Gamboa fight, he's a little bit patient, but he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He's very careful. Sometimes to a fault, like maybe in the Gamboa fight, he's a little bit patient. But he doesn't make a lot of errors. And so for a guy like Linares, who can be dangerous and maybe a little bit chinny at 35, I don't know exactly how much Haney's going to open up. But I tend to think even if he doesn't, Linares doesn't have what it takes to break it open.

That gives me... I agree with your point about the odds, but I'm still struggling a little bit to see exactly what Linares can do to crack open the egg, so to speak. Unfortunately, I think you're right. And the odds have, you know, William Hill has minus 1,000 for Haney plus 650 for Linares. I've seen it as high as minus 1,500 for Haney. And it's like that doesn't tell the real story of the fight,

yet what is the real story of the fight? We want to see Linares at least push Haney and find out how he can finally do with some resistance. Because to your point, the narrative has slightly changed on Haney. When people were coming after him early, Luke, whether he was on Showbox or once he signed with Eddie Hearn in Matchroom Sport and he went to DAZN, he can get you the frick out of there with knockout punches and look spectacular. His knockout of that guy Moran, remember that knockout from a

couple years ago? Forgot the guy's first name. Look up, go to YouTube and look up Haney versus Moran. I mean, he almost killed the guy. Like, he has every single tool, but why I say the narrative changed is because the last two fights, he looked boring single tool but why i say the narrative changed is because the last two fights he looked boring as balls against old gamboa against whoever fought the fight before it was it was too passive you know it was it was technically beautiful but he's in this group of guys that i keep talking about who are trying to one-up each other gervonta had the knockout of the year against Leo. Ryan Garcia did big things to open this year. I mean, these guys, Teo beat Loma. These guys are making noise right now.

This is that chance for Devin because even though, yes, historically Linares for as brilliant as he can be, he can be a little bit chinny. Nobody's going to forget Luke. His fight against Antonio DeMarco, it's such a great fight. It was back in like 2012 where Linares had that fight in the bag and then DiMarco just kept walking him down until he finally cut his face and he stopped him in the 11th round. It was dramatic as all hell. It's like that in some way is the story of Linares' career. He looks awesome, but there's vulnerability there. Haney's probably going to win this fight, whether he does it boring or he steps it up and knocks him out. But you want to see the resistance and you want this to build towards something big. Him and Ryan Garcia, at least for right now, Luke, are both, they have separate promoters, but they're both under the DAZN stable. Dude, they got to start building to that.

They fought each other something like six times as amateurs. There's debate over who got the better of the who overall. Like that has to be what we're building to because i love this lenares fight it can get me excited because we're supposed to learn something but it can't be like we do this fight and then we do two more fights you don't care about like let's do it it's time yeah and then the gamboa fight the other problem is you kind of alluded to it but it's worth stating out loud danny uh haney won the fight it was kind a stinker, and he was kind of expected to shine. Like, it's not just that Linares is a better opponent in a number of different ways,

including for excitement, but like, you know, we need to build towards something. Yes, you need a nice rebound. You need something to remind people about why they were excited about you in the first place. And, but you see, there's not a whole lot of competition.

Yes, Showtime Boxing has fights. There's no UFC. There's no giant pay-per-view event this weekend. There's nothing really overshadowing it against NBA playoffs to an extent. But, you know, if you're a boxing fan, you have a real opportunity to clue in on the guys that are worth probably being a little bit more worthy of that attention. You know, no excuses this time, I'll say. All right, Luke. Our final topic of the week is something we have obviously alluded to earlier. Just get ready because it this time. I'll say. All right, Luke. Our final topic of the week

is something we have obviously alluded to earlier. Just get ready because it's time. Fight week is coming next Sunday night, June 6th, Showtime pay-per-view,

Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida. It's bragging rights and whether you love it, whether you hate the spectacular, you're going to be watching. Like you will. You're going to find out

what's going down because 44-year-old Floyd Mayweather is back against 26-year-old YouTube sensation turned boxer? Logan Paul. Luke, I was in Dorado, Puerto Rico earlier this week in what can best be

described as a shanty of a gym connected to an elementary school of all places to check out the Paul brothers who were in camp. Jean Pascal was there. Jayleon Love, the former Mayweather Promotions fighter who helps train Jake. A couple other fighters and boxing folks there. But the Showtime cameras were rolling. We're going to see the Logan Paul interview later today, as we mentioned. Eventually the Jake one will come out too. I'm going to have so many stories off of these interviews on

CBSSports.com in the next week. But whether you like it or not, this fight is here. Manish, can we start off this discussion about what I learned by throwing to the second of the three videos we have here of Logan? Is it a troll job just going from being YouTube sensation to getting Floyd Mayweather to agree to a boxing match with you? Is that a troll job in itself? You're witnessing the greatest finesse in history. Yeah. Why is Floyd Mayweather getting in the ring with me? Like, he has everything to lose, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you got finessed. You got finessed, Floyd. And then imagine I beat him for one second. I have to imagine taking this fight would be a regret. Look, here's what's interesting. Is everyone's like talking about like the Paul brothers coming into boxing, like coming into a world they don't belong.

Yet one of the biggest takeaways I can tell you from talking to both at length is they see it the exact opposite. They not only told me Floyd needs us, his star is the one that's lessening he's not connected to the next generation like we are and again whether you hate the paul brothers or not they've got a combined like 43 million youtube subscribers and that's not even counting tiktok or you know whatever else they got going on i'm too old to even follow that

but their their their thought here luke is that they they finessed Floyd into coming into their world. They are outspoken trolls. You saw the gotcha hat stuff. You saw all that stuff. At the end of the day, they're going to fight, and that's Floyd Mayweather's world. That's his ring. But do you, I guess, understand and agree with what they're saying?

They lured him into what they're doing. Yes, Floyd is a huge favorite in this exhibition. I know we can talk up Logan's six inch height advantage and, you know, four inch reach advantage and 18 inch age advantage and 40 to 50 pound weight advantage. And that's, those are all interesting elements, whether you think it's bullshit or not. One thing you could say is we've never seen a fight like this, right? This eight-round exhibition is unique in that aspect. But is there any element of, like, Floyd kind of out of his space going into what they do, entering into this troll world?

He got his hat ripped off. He got embarrassed. What does that mean, troll world? What is that? I'm asking you. I'm asking you, Luke. Yeah, but you can't just say things like that. Like, we brought him into our world. Well, no you didn't i mean well to an extent like part of what

they said is correct is floyd star fading well let's just be honest is he the two million pay-per-view by guy who beat canelo no that guy is kind of long gone i think floyd floyd's doing this against a donk from youtube for that reason, because he's not that same guy anymore. Okay, Father Time gets us all. I don't think that's any kind of controversial statement. So yes, like, you know, are they both meeting in the middle where both sides are kind of feeding off what the other provides so that the sum is greater than the individual pieces of the parts? I think you are getting a little bit of that, right?

That's what the appeal is here for whoever wants to watch. That's sort of the point. So, okay, yes, you did get him, you did cajole him or however you want to put it into signing up for something that is unusual outside the bounds of what he typically does and carries a degree of risk that I think you couldn't dismiss. But the other part is it's like, dude, it's a boxing match. And everyone, I've sort of brought this up with a casual fan. They're like, yeah, it's a boxing match. And everyone I've brought this up with is a casual fan. They're like, yeah, but these guys, they're training hard.

I'm like, I bet they are. But you'd have to do that for 20 years to even have a chance, probably. Although at that point, it'd be too late and Floyd would be too old. So it's like, you know, the whole finesse thing. I mean, listen, Logan's going to get paid. And people who want to see this are going to get what they want to get. How is Floyd being finessed? Does anybody know the actual reality of Floyd's life?

You can say whatever you want about Floyd Mayweather, good or bad. Show me the last time that dude got finessed. I would love to see it. That dude's been winning against the house every turn card on the river for about the last 20 years i mean and in and out of the ring i mean whether it's not by accident dude he is very careful and understands what he's good at what he's not good at what can i do what can i not do and yeah bc could a mistake be made where floyd doesn't take this seriously at all and this big ass dude who can you, land a decent punch?

Because something happened, of course. But Floyd is only taking this because he doesn't see that risk as real. And if you wonder why we're focused on it, because we're a week out, this is sort of the storyline part. We're going to get into the actual fight next week, whether that'll be a short discussion or not, Luke. But the whole point is, like, I mean, who needs each other more? You know, Floyd does kind of need this.

This gives him the opportunity for relevancy. Does he? Not need. Okay, not need. But it does give him the reach into areas he's not normally in, this whole sort of Gen Z anime gaming culture. There's the potential for a two-fight series here, obviously, if he beats Logan.

And then there's the history with Jake. I asked both. Jake says there's unfinished business with Floyd. It's interesting. Logan said, essentially, you know, I could see that fight happening, but I don't want it to happen. You know, sorry, Jake,

because I want to go out there and beat Floyd, so you can understand that. But the only time Floyd's been kind of finessed, Luke, before this, was maybe in the Four City promotional tour with McGregor, who was wittier on the microphone and sort Luke, before this, was maybe in the Four City promotional tour with McGregor, who was wittier on the microphone and sort of, you know, you could say kind of beat him in that game,

whether that meant anything. Well, they got in the ring and it didn't matter. It didn't mean shit. That was four years ago. McGregor on paper, obviously, is a much more dangerous threat in theory than Logan Paul, even with the size difference. But,

you know, all reports were that Floyd, even people talking to people on his team that, you know, he didn't really train for that fight. And, you know, and his plan worked perfectly against Connor,

but he's four years older. You're going to, you think he's going to train? Like, what do you think his actual, my, and Floyd doesn't do a lot of interviews. We probably won't really get to hear what he thinks about all this until, you know, Thursday or Friday of fight week because that's how Floyd operates.

He has that control. What do you, what would you guess is his actual mindset and preparation level? Because we've never seen a shit show like this before. He told Barstool he feels like he can just show up and be fine. I honestly think that that is his motivation. If he didn't really train, I mean, he was in shape, but if he didn't really train, train for the McGregor fight, what do you all expect he's going to do for, I think, is it two-minute rounds? Or is it three-minute rounds for eight rounds?

Three-minute rounds, I think. Yeah, I mean, dude, he can do that in his sleep. He can do that no problem. Granted, you know, you talk to analysts who watched him in the McGregor fight, and they noticed a difference between that Floydyd and the floyd who had boxed you know um even just years before that against burto but so i'm expecting an absolutely you know some some lesser version of that but you know what's his mindset his his mindset is i can't believe that this is legal and i get to make a shit ton of money boxing dudes who aren't boxers. I can't believe the state is going to let me just fucking cash this kind of a check.

By the way, shout out to Florida, who has no cares commission-wise. Remember when Las Vegas was like, we're not really sure we should do this with McGregor. He doesn't have any protection. Don't you remember there was controversies with McGregor? Like, is the glove made out of horse hair? Is it not? What's the weight going to be?

Dude, no one cares about the weight on this thing. Gloves, sure, whatever the fuck. Just tape them with duct tape if you need it. Just let them get out there. People have a very, like, open attitude about this, I have to say. And we are Showtime cash checkers, and we will be there next week. But, you know, we've both obviously identified this. This is a carnival shit show, so just buckle up

and get ready for that. It is what it is. It is what it is. For Logan to say now look, we said Floyd's never been finessed. Well, Jake stole his hat, so that's the only win they have is basically Floyd. Jesus, Brian, do you hear yourself? No, I don't mean win because they got the hat. I mean win because

they embarrassed him and lured him into their stupid world. So from that point of view, what Logan just said in that clip is understandable, but he's using that to set up like, Floyd, you're in our world. And if you lose here, you know, this is embarrassing. This would be a stain, blah, blah, blah. And it would. But again, Floyd's world is the ring. So really those comments are just words at the end of the day um Luke let me tell you what I learned from the brothers um they you know to your point you better be training they are they are they are taking this seriously and that's one thing you

and I said whether you loved or hate them back when they were on DAZN a couple years ago fighting other youtubers like is this great for boxing it's's still up for debate. But people care, and they are training legit. They got pro trainers. They got real sparring partners. But, you know, one question I didn't like. I'll be honest here. I asked Logan Paul. You know, are you going to brawl, Floyd?

Are you going to cheat? Are you going to stretch the rules? Like, what is your actual chance given the the obvious gap in skill here and he gave the answer now again this is words it could be a a mind game and one thing i learned from spending hours in that gym is these paul brothers if you don't believe they're they're smart i mean dude they're they are you know whether it's them specifically or the people behind them their market you don't make millions by accident like they are multi-millionaire marketing geniuses love them or hate them.

And Logan even said as much, Luke, that I play a dumb character publicly, but I know what's going on. But Logan's quotes were, we're going to box him. We're going to use our jab and outbox him. Then Logan's trainer, Milton LaCroix, who has plenty of experience, Shannon Briggs to the heavyweight title, is an OG in boxing. He's like, we're going to go in there and box him and then knock him out. Look, I'm not trying to like connect this to a real fight strategy. Like, but you know, Canelo famously came in there in

2013 and tried to outbox the greatest boxer of his generation. And look what happened. And you could argue, Hey BC, shut the F up. I don't care what strategy they say or have floyd's still gonna mop the floor with logan and that may be true but look me hearing logan paul and his trainer try to actually talk up his boxing ability and say no no you don't understand we had zab judah in here we had victor ortiz we had pro after pro they couldn't believe logan's jab and how good he is his only chance is to make this a shit show, right, Luke? Like, what are we even talking about right here? Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. Listen, he's a big, strong kid.

And BC, we've seen, he's obviously an athlete, you know, and I'm certain, all jokes aside, all jokes aside, it is obvious he's got some athletic ability and it is obvious he is training his balls off. Like, there's no denying that. But, you know, you're still talking about somebody who's basically a white, probably not even a blue belt for whatever the equivalent would be. You're talking about someone who's, like, a multiple-time world champion.

Like, you know, yeah, there's going to be a big difference between that and the other guy. So keeping that in mind, you know, listen, I'm not here to bank on whether or not his jab is going to get it done. This was the mistake that Ben Askren made. Granted, Ben's in a different situation too for all the training he did not really do. But he tried to, I'm going to work on some of the things that me and Duke worked on. Dude, tie up with the guy. Lean on him.

Pull him. Push him. Make the ref warn you about what fouls you can get away with. Dude, we know from watching MMA you can do a three stooges bit you can kick him in the balls that's a warning fucking poke him in the eye that's another warning fucking kick him in the balls again okay next time mister you're really gonna get it dude okay maybe you can't get the eye poke thing although with the thumb you might be able to but I'm not advocating BC for fucking up Floyd in some kind of illegal way I'm just saying if I was Logan Paul I'd be I'd be forming an exploratory committee

to see how far I could push the lines of what's what I can get away with if that's where your advantage lies in all of that fuckery you got to go in that direction and look Canelo didn't do that and he famously got badly outboxed, and it was kind of a humbling, embarrassing moment. Even Conor, Luke, and I know the talk heading into that fight four years ago was like, there's language in the contract that if Conor does a spinning back kick, he's going to face

legal action, he's going to get arrested. But to be honest, Luke, if we could look at Mayweather-McGregor as an actual fight for a second, like, Conor's strategy sucked too bro like he didn't try to brawl him he didn't try to I know he did those those hammerhead shots that were kind of weird and didn't necessarily get discipline for but he tried to outbox Floyd as well it's like like what you're saying I'm not advocating for you to knee Floyd in the face but you better have

some idea that my only chance in this comedic Super Bowl here is to go in there and actually try to hurt the guy right yeah I mean listen if you're Andy Kaufman and you're the champion of wrestling women I mean I don't know if that's a fair analogy or not but I'm just sort of pointing out like dude look man you know this whole idea about you're gonna outbox the guy I know the fuck you are not I, you might for a second or an exchange or whatever. But over time, it's the same thing Joe Rogan used to say. You're going to leave openings you don't know are there. You're going to create openings that you don't know exist. And Floyd's going to see all of them and it will be terrible for you.

However, however, if you start doing double overhooks and then maybe tripping him and then hooking his leg and you know pulling on his collar and all kinds of shit man you never know what could open up there there's all kinds of stuff that could that could get going but you know i'm gonna beat you on skills good luck now i will say one more thing to who jake paul is much more interested luke what to be taken serious as a fighter i've noticed that logan Paul, like you were there BC, but like from the outside looking in, as I mentioned, he's a big,

strong kid and he's obviously training, but like the guy who wants the boxing affirmation more than the other one is definitely Jake. He wants to be like, I definitely feel like before it's said and done, he'll have a reasonably, uh, real boxing fight, like against someone of a commensurate level'll have a reasonably real boxing fight,

like against someone of a commensurate level who does this for real. He probably, of the two, is a better candidate for that. That's why I've always loved your Kimbo Slice comparison. Like, Jake seems to be entering a Kimbo Slice portion of his career where, yes, he's a carnival attraction, but Kimbo took it seriously. He wanted to be a real fighter. He got on the ultimate fight. There's legit things that happen happen there whether I question still the legitimacy of some of those fights just like I at least questioned

the Jake versus Askren fight because some parts of it looked a little you know interesting but here's the dynamic between the two brothers the dichotomy the contrast whatever you want to say is like Jake overall Luke, Luke, is certainly the goofier, crazier one of the two. He's covered in tats. He's the problem child. He's untying Floyd Shude's doing gotcha hat. Yet he's like super serious that, no, you'll find out. I'm a real fighter. You know, he did say, I don't care about the titles. Boxing has too many of them, but he wants to make big fights. He wants to knock people out. He wants to be considered, you know, legit. Logan's the one who's like, you know, you'll, you know,

eventually I'll win you over, but yes, I'm finessing Luke. I'm finessing Floyd. This is more of just like me clowning. I will say this. They're smarter. Like I mentioned, way smarter, whether you love him or hate him, then you realize it is a ridiculous story, Luke, that we're here. That, that Logan Paul in particular, who originally, you can argue that Jake's more famous now, I'm not even sure which one's more famous,

but originally it was Logan Paul was that guy, that YouTube guy, and people hated him for the suicide force thing, rightfully so. But to think that just, you know, that was three, four years ago, and now they're not only boxers, but like legitimate pay-per-view stars and fighting Floyd Mayweather.

I mean, it is pretty ridiculous, you know, in terms of like a career path and making it work. So it's like whether you're done with this conversation, you want us to move on or not, like I got to give Logan that. And whether you thought gotcha hat was the stupidest shit you ever saw, it is selling this fight. And it may end up leading to Floyd versus Jake, and it may have been a big part in Jake getting a showtime deal. Either way, Luke, they're here. They don't seem to be going anywhere. We'll see where this goes, and I think people

will care next week. We got one more clip to throw to it. I think it's centered upon the whole idea of gotcha hat, Maneach, if you can tee this up to close the conversation. But you seem to be embracing the, for lack of a better term, a shitshow sort of element to this the conversation but you seem to be embracing the for lack of a better term a show sort of element to this fight are you that this is carnival circus fun it is a circus but i'm gonna be honest i wasn't at first like i was really treating this kind of like a respectful

exhibition uh wanted to be uh acknowledge floyd's career path and everything he's accomplished and i was trying to be respectful and then my brother took his hat and he said he was gonna kill jake and like i'll take that lightly it's become super personal um and just the way he's talking online like he thinks he's in control of this fight to the t uh it's gonna take 44 years of flo Floyd's life for him to be humbled. All right, Luke, it is what it is, bro. It's good content at the very least. You can check it out later today on Showtime Sports.

Listen, I just can't watch it and not laugh. I can't, you know. I just can't. I can't. Well, if you're going to laugh at anything, laugh at how Rock Lobster and Sweaty and Chubby or Boy B.C. looks. I'm working on it. All right?

I'm working on it. I mean, could you have worn warmer clothes? Jesus Christ. Did you have to get the thick-layered dungarees on, motherfucker? Wear some shorts. Just so people... So it's like I brought a nice outfit and I brought a shitty one. And then when I realized where we're actually going, Luke, it's in a town or city or whatever,

but there's no AC in there. You walk in and it's hot as shit. And then for the interviews, they turn off those industrial sized fans, Luke. I mean, I'm just, it is a flood. I had paper towels clandestinely in each pocket that I'm just picking out in between questions and just wiping up like a

savage. So yeah, Luke, I survived that. shout out to the paul brothers for welcoming us in luke they'll they'll care next sunday night june 6th pay-per-view we'll see what happens there thank you for indulging my stupidity for a little bit luke you may have thought or maybe our listeners thought that us giving this much time to the paul brothers is really the wrong thing to do but either way luke it would not be the only time bc and lt are in fact dead wrong dead wrong uh uh uh there's seven different levels to devil worshiping horses sex human sacrifices cannibals candles and exorcism animals having sex with them camels mammals and rabbits

but i don't get into that i kick the habit all right go ahead call me larry hoover all right luke uh you know the premise morning combat gmail.com is our email address for wednesday's fan submissions and for fridays when you and i are willing at least to entertain the idea of taking an l we start off with michael ryan and andrew jumping in hi luke and brian this is specifically from ryan from south korea he says on the fr, May 21st edition of Morning Combat, Luke kept referring to Bellator as Strikeforce, especially in relation to Valerie Lareda's career.

He doesn't say it here, Luke, but people jumped at me for not correcting you. I guess I didn't hear you in real time. I don't always hear you. I do that a lot. Yeah, you got to. For some reason, I just keep connecting the two, but they are distinct. Yes, my bad. I mean, to be fair, Showtime broadcasted both now.

Scott Coker was the face behind both now. Rich Chow was the matchmaker behind both. Staff members, Danny Brenner in the PR game. It ain't that different. All right. Shout out to Danny Brenner, though, just the same. I mean, he's a weird dude, Luke, but I do like him a lot. Yeah, keep inviting him to dinner, please.

That's great. Remember when he invited himself to our Showtime dinner? But I said, well, I welcomed him. He's part of the family. I was like, dude, why would you do that? And you're like, oh, I just love it. And I'm like, all right. All right.

Luke, Vince and Animesh. I'm teasing, Danny. Since you're watching this, you're going to text me after this being all bitter. We're teasing, okay? Yeah, Danny. Since you're watching this, you're going to text me after this being all bitter. We're teasing, okay? Yeah, Danny, you old bitch. Vincent Animesh jumped in. They said, Monday's show at 10 minutes and 37 seconds.

Luke says, Marlon Marais, former champion. Guys, I dead wronged him in real time. Why the fuck Luke has the impression that Marlon Marais was Bantamweight champion? He has been dead wrong so many times. I can't. And for some fucking reason, he did it anyway. Dude, my brain will not allow me to view him as anything other than your longstanding UFC Bantamweight Champion. It does not matter how many fucking times you correct me.

My brain is broken. So, yes, dead wrong. Absolutely fucking dead wrong. Marais did fight for the vacant title against henry cejudo and he's been a contender but now he's on a bad streak hopefully he can turn that around luke all right this is from colin levity levity luke in bbc on the monday may 24th show brian hit puberty and cited his voice cracking as a, quote, Greg or Bobby Brady moment. The only problem is that it was Peter Brady that famously had his voice crack in an episode of The Brady Bunch.

Yes, Colin, thank you for dead wronging me. Peter was the middle child in the moment. I couldn't come up with his name, the youngest one in curls, Luke. I have to say something about this segment. It's gotten better. Have you noticed that when people go after us now, they name the show, they give you the number of the show, they even give you the time stamp of when you did it?

That's better. I'm liking Dead Raw more these days. Because you lost your shit a few times on them, Luke, okay? You know, I had to whip them into shape, but now they're getting us with good. You haven't seen me protest the L's here very recently because they've been pretty good they've been pretty good iron cloud l's look i don't know if i told this before but growing up so this was my mom's favorite show ever so growing up i've watched every episode like the same amount of times i've watched saved by the bell like a

million times right and it was always like my my sister and i was like that's our mom's show so when my sister went to college at western connect State University uh uh Greg Brady uh what's his name Barry Williams he he had a new book called Growing Up Brady I don't know if you remember this book that came out around like 95 or 6 where it was when he broke the bombshell that him and Marsha Brady used to hook up off screen back in the day it was like a big sort of sex story to sell the book my sister went to some like bullshit public thing at her college and waited in line for like an hour afterwards finally gets up to greg brady and is like my mom's your biggest fan ever i bought two of your books would you mind signing one to me and one to her and he yelled at her in front of everybody and was like i told you i'm only signing one and got the PR people to come over and remove my sister in tears, Luke.

All right. Sorry, I wasn't listening. I was watching hardcore pornography. So I'm holding that receipt, Barry Williams. Okay. I'm coming for you, bro. All right. All right.

You're going to come on, Greg Brady. Then come. Okay. Come on. All right. Yeah. I'm watching. I'm watching lots of people come on right now.

Oh, my God. Wow. People should know the real Luke. He's just like, hey, bro, last night I watched so much porn that involves physical violence and choking and burning skin. And I'm just like, please, just speak. If people only knew how our roles were flipped off camera luke it'd just be all right all right uh this is from miko he says hi donkin steins

first of all love the show it's the best mma and boxing coverage out there second in the mondays have you seen this shit segment look at miko luke trying to soften us up early with the praise and then coming in underneath murdering us yeah when you talked about the legendary grocery store hunter gatherer you guys guesstimated the store to be in russia or pensacola florida the reason why we did miko is because the instagram account was look at this russian that's why we did that. However, the video was shot in Sweden, which is easy to tell by a couple of the products seen on the video. The Latte brand of butter and the Pistazian,

which is pistachios in Swedish. A light L for the team, MK. You're welcome. Keep up the content, the great content. P.S. When will MK Merch 2.0 be available? Bwah! Miko. M miko you can wait until your children's children and probably still not be wearing that shit okay yeah they'll be they'll

be new like you know how like the original host of the man show where jimmy kimmel and adam carolla yes yes mk will have like a new rogan and Stanhope before there's Merch 2.0. The second rate, yeah. Damn, I forgot that that is, for some people, how they first learned of Rogan. Although, obviously, he had that show where they'd put their hand in spiders. Fear Factor. Have you ever heard Doug Stanhope's bit on killing the man show? He admits he killed the man show. Have you ever heard it?

I have not heard it. I will look it up, though. It's fucking hilarious. It's very, very good. I was just watching the other day that clip of on the uh fear factor remember when rogan attacked that guy my the ms was on that episode yeah that dude tried to put well the dude no no the dude tried to put hands on rogan and rogan responded so that was totally fair and it was the ms the real world wrestler guy who jumped in the middle to break it up it was interesting all right uh this is from um i don't know hey guys jp from lily lake mount unike nova scotia canada here mount uni unike unike i don't know love the show and all you do for us thank you you canadian uh morning

combat episode 161 at an hour and 30 minutes luke says you hit the lamp on the phone you know you know like this thing question mark pretty sure it's called a flashlight lol nitpicky one but wanted to contribute to the show other than the million drunk people wipeouts i send bc every week on instagram thank you JP. You are like the drunken swan on Instagram, one of my OGs who sends me all that shit, because BC makes it look easy. Luke, there's no such thing as a lamp app. Yeah, all right.

It's a boomer thing. I think you were talking about Yanni the Greek's teeth, and you were comparing it to a flashlight, right? Yeah, listen, I'm old and washed. What do you want me to do? Yeah, what do you want to do yeah what do you want what do you want jay all right another jay like we got enough jays we got to deal with on a deal on a regular basis all right final one here luke on mondays have you seen the shit luke says this is 100 percent dubai at an hour and 24 minutes when referring to lomachenko at salt baye's restaurant. But hey, Luke, it's actually Beverly Hills.

Nonetheless, I like Luke's 100% confidence in all things Salt Bae. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's verify that. If I'm wrong, listen, I've been wrong most of these today, so I'll happily take the L. I mean, why would Loma be in Dubai, Luke? Why would Loma be there? Because that's where the restaurant is.

What's his face? Oh, but you're right. It was the Beverly Hills version. Fuck. Okay. L. L taken. There you go.

Eating shit. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. I got to. Yeah.

You got a back scratcher? I do. That's not gross, right? I've done some gross things on the show, but that's not gross, right? I'm going to go to your house. I'm going to scratch something else with it. All right. Luke, I'll tell you what.

On Fridays when BC hosts, and especially when we have nothing to talk about, we really are efficient. We are in and out. It's more about we have nothing to talk about than your efficiency, because hello, hashtag wheel of death. You just kill me with how long it takes. But yes, Friday shows are quicker. We have to do tips, though.

A lot of people believe I should have been hosting from the beginning, Luke. But that's another conversation. A lot of people don't believe that. But it's nice that you host on Fridays. I agree. Thank you. Luke, every Friday we close the show. A little tip-on-tip action.

It's called, I think, Just the Tip? Actually, we never know what this fucking shit is called tip to tip there you go all right all right this is where we have a suggestion advice a shout out uh luke yours is better than mine this week so let me uh let me shout out mine first let me guess let me guess some 1970s vinyl piece of shit record no one cares about wow wow luke there is a website uh called uh retro kid.ca it's out of toronto and let me tell you what their business premise is this is brilliant go around to all the tv franchises or movie franchises that we indulged in love as kids call up the people that own the ip address on there and work together with them to put out exclusive merchandise.

Luke, I'm sure they reached out to you, but did you see this Bloodsport package that Retro Kid put out yesterday? Do we have the, you know, this is a free ad. I'm shouting out because I was moved by this, Luke. Shout out to the Kumite here. Can we run that shit or no? Manit, you got that? Or no?

All right. All right. Thanks for the response. All right. They didn't grab the link I sent them. Anyway, Luke, thanks, guys. Anyway, Luke, you can go to retrokid.ca or check them out on Instagram. They're cool. They're super cool.

They put out some really cool shit with John Claude and everybody in the Bloodsport game. They own now the exclusive rights to put out the merchandise. It is well worth your time if you're an old school fan to check that out. And, of course, Luke mentioned that during Wednesday, or I did during Wednesday's Wheel of Death. Also, Luke, I'm not sure if you saw the Cobra Kai Season 4 teaser that the show put out and Netflix put out yesterday

that officially announced Terry Silver is in the building for season four. A man can't see Luke. He can't fight. A man can't breathe. He can't fight. The quick silver method is back. Luke, I know you and I have watched or you've watched the show as have I,

my kids live for it. Does that move you at all like i'm fired up no i punted after the first season dude dude really yeah i liked the first season a lot and then i'll tell you exactly what happened i started watching the second season and i was like i don't care about the lives of teenagers. I don't find it interesting. Wow. So I punted. I punted.

I don't look at it as just a teenage show. And in fact, I think that they're making that 50% of it has been brilliant because they're bringing in all levels of ages to care. But look, their ability to take the story arc of the movies and extend them and make them cooler than the actual movies i mean they swear there's like i mean look like it's it's brilliant it's top shelf entertainment i'll say this it's one it's definitely if not the best at a bare minimum certainly one of the better uh you know brand refreshers i've ever seen in entertainment i

will give you that i really enjoyed the first season don't misunderstand me i'm not even telling you not to like the show i'm just telling you so much of the plot revolves around what teenagers are doing in high school i don't give a fuck that is terribly uninteresting to me and uh there's not enough of the other stuff to keep me interested at this point so you're basically painting me sandusky junior hair for watching it but look i'm into it and uh and uh i mean They brought back Elizabeth Shue, Elliot with an eye in season three. Kreese is this maniacal badass. It's on right now.

All these faded donks are looking for another paycheck off this franchise. I don't even blame them, but I'm not... Oh, teenagers have angst in high school. Don't care. I might put this on Dead Wrong next week. I think you're wrong. I think you missed it. But I'm not telling you it's bad. I'm telling you I don't care. Just don't care. I might put this on dead wrong next week. I think you're wrong. I think you missed it. I think you missed it, Luke.

But I'm not telling you it's bad. I'm telling you I don't like it. That's different. I'm not making a broader claim about its worth. Thank you, Retro Kid, for putting out that Bloodsport shit. I can't wait to start wearing it. It's good stuff. And thank you, Season 4 of Cobra Kai, for entertaining me.

Okay, Luke, why don't you take over the show? All right, so for mine here, very easily. You know, listen, Brendan Schaob is a fellow showtime uh talent i consider him something of a big brother a friend and a confidant in the industry but you know bc even for our friends and we're kidding here so to the motherfuckers at malca who are going to make this later don't don't not put what i'm about to say in here we can't't not, you know, we've got to make fun of our friends on this show. That's part of what we do here. And Brendan Schaub, again, friend,

took to Instagram and social media yesterday and posted himself lifting weights at a very famous gym, Zoo Factor, I believe it's called. Watch this bench press here. It's supposed to be 400 pounds. I believe that's right. The big ones are 45 on each side. Then he's got a 25, a 10, a five, or in a two and a half, I think. One, here we go. And then two, there we go. Okay. BC, I got to tell you, here's what my tip is.

Brendan, buddy, your bench is blockbuster. You need a trainer, guy. That's the worst bench press I've ever seen. Okay? I say this out of love, and I also say this, Malka. You need to put this in the thing that you're going to put on social. That's five pounds stronger than my lifetime total, and he did it for two.

Brendan is way stronger than me. This is not a claim that I could do better. Fuck no. But i could do a cleaner bench he looks like he's getting electrocuted with his ass coming off the bench this way okay number one it's like the tony ferguson deadlift video you ever seen that one where there's like no there's no contraction of the muscles whatsoever he's like a jellyfish a little bit look at watch it looks like he's being shocked through his heels. Watch this.

Right? There's the first one. And here goes the second one. For folks who may not know, you are allowed to lift your rear end off the bench to get set and to lift it out of the rack. But you can't descend with the bar until your rear end is touching

because otherwise it's all leg drive. That's the issue. You're allowed to have some leg drive um but not a whole lot and people are asking why do you arch your back arching your back is okay it shortens reins of motion if you actually lock in your lats and your shoulders and everything it can make it tighter so that's okay but bc that's a poverty bench buddy terrible terrible form and listen i kill everyone else when they've got terrible form i've got to kill our friends here at showtime brendan terrible strongest he's strong as fuck that's a terrible bench buddy the worst one i've ever seen killing showtime's phil sims for his pull-ups wasn't enough you gotta go no i didn't kill him the pull-ups were fine for working out but they if you don't hit full lockout it doesn doesn't count. Like, you know, you're just cheating.

I don't talk shit about people that can put up four plates. You know, it's a four-plate summer for Brendan, so what are we doing here? I don't, I mean, you're putting up weight. I mean, you know, look, I just hope with MKDoc cameras... The way he's doing that, you can get injured doing that. You can get injured. That's really the real reason.

Well, look, MKDoc cameras will be rolling next week as I keep talking about BS. Brendan Schaub will be, you know, the big brown one himself will be in proximity to LT and the big beige. Hopefully, Luke, not only can we get him on cam, maybe we can get him in the weight room. Maybe, Luke, maybe you could show big brown and big beige a little bit about proper form. You know, we can spot each other. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're not going to do that but i am going to make fun of people who post videos where they have terrible form i'll carry your giant jug of water if you want luke okay i have to take that

as you as you rightly noted i have to take the label off the gallon of water because if i had it it wouldn't make any sense so there you go brendan you're a big brother and a friend you're strong as shit that bench horrific all right there you go. Brendan, you're a big brother and a friend. You're strong as shit. That bench, horrific. All right, there you go. That's it. I'm done.

There's my tip. Great weight room. Never been in there. Luke, my doctor, by the way, subsequently did tell me yesterday, I am ordering you to start lifting weights four days a week for your upper body. Dude, four days a week? Your doctor didn't prescribe like a little bit of lifting that's a lot of lifting i'm like doc i have no libido i'm on mental health meds i had a vasectomy i'm a shell of myself at 42 he's like hit the weight room brother all right

okay i have to go i'm about to go unload some weight from my rear end so we need to wrap this up there are people who have DM'd me and was like, you know, the thing about your show that I love is that there's no time limit. You guys go until, and then he goes, until Luke's. The only time limit is Luke's bowel movements. I was like, you know what, bro? You nailed it. You nailed it.

Okay, that is true. Guilty as charged. What can I say? All right. Well, look, guys, you know, come on. Right? Come on already. It's time. We're going big here. So shout out to everybody. Showtime,

Malka, CBS Sports. Follow us at the addresses below. Check out the Logan Paul content coming out later today on Showtime Sports. Social channels on CBSSports.com. And if you don't believe that we are bringing it next week luke and i will be arriving in south florida on wednesday so much bonus live mk content coming

thursday friday saturday fight day on sunday luke you and i have plans that we can't talk about but that people would go really you see you serious right now like like when they told me even i didn't believe it but it's true so there's gonna be a celebrity clientele in south florida with this type of fight we got real fights we got chad johnson fights we got some fun coming your way next week and it is obviously only the beginning june and july will be huge uh like the video subscribe store.show.com is where you can pick up the last remaining merch 1.0 items. And I have nothing else to say about our merchandise. Thank you. Showtime.com is where you can get a 30-day free preview. Guys, it's worth it. Okay. Nonito Donair

is back. Showtime Championship Boxing, Saturday night, 10 p.m. Eastern. Bellator, you can only watch it on Showtime in the States. Plenty of great reason, including Sunday, June 6th, when before Mayweather and Logan Paul take the ring on Showtime pay-per-view, 8 p.m. Eastern on regular Showtime is the start of that, the Kings four-part documentary series, hoping to secure a guest on MK to further talk about that. Luke, what a great time in boxing history, and what a great doc to celebrate it.

That's all I have for you this week for our great team, Mikey Morms, Matt Snyder, right? Gaff, Maneach, Sally, Al Wendling. We got a great core team here. My name is Brian Campbell. That man next to you is Luke Thomas. LT, do you have a holiday greeting for the people Memorial Day here? Honor the fallen and don't drink and drive.

Yeah, don't text and drive too, John Anikin. May all your animals be spayed and loyal. My name is BC with two more words for you. We out.