MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Morning Kombat Documentary Series Director's Cut Part 2 | BC Farewell Tour

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Revely, revelry. Look at us now, tip to tip. Oh, Jesus. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha. Do you want a margarita? It's us doing what we love
Starting point is 00:00:32 It's time to bang Oh yeah, back by popular demand Oh, yeah, back by popular demand With part two of the morning Combat documentary director's cut rewatch Wow, that's a mouthful We back, baby, it's morning combat, Brian Campbell, Luke F. Thomas, live and direct from Columbia,
Starting point is 00:00:58 and first and foremost, happy New Year to everybody, Friday, January 2nd, 2006 as you are watching this. Of course, in the space time continuum, we did record this in advance. So Luke Thomas, I'm sure you could tell me that you probably would have had a great New Year's Eve, right? Just to just bang it. Just bang it in the new year. Time you're watching this, I'm probably incredibly hungover still. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:01:24 All right. You're currently eating quail eggs for a traditional Colombian. breakfast are you i finished it i finished it but yes it was excellent and an a rape handmade home well i'd like to give my thanks to uncle pepe for letting you use his pipe a room and uh in in a podcast here this is fantastic stuff uh welcome great to be here for everybody that caught part one of our documentary look back we appreciate you this has promised is part two where we will go through documentaries five six and seven what's the difference between five and seven and one to four they're longer
Starting point is 00:02:00 they're a lot more artsier and there's a lot more variety as Jake von Amsterdam really stepped up his cinematography editing and all of that and Luke if you want to be honest we got skinnier each doc and that's great that's great to see you know what I mean not skinny enough
Starting point is 00:02:17 but you know progress is always progress I suppose there it is there it is I would like you to like subscribe even follow our extended YouTube channel shout out to everybody watching on the Draft Kings Network today as we kick off a new year in the life here in 26 and follow us on what we're doing here. The show's not dying, BC's final episode Monday, January 5th of 26.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So tune in for that as we go live from Metal Arc in Manhattan one more time, but the show continuing. Look, anything you can say about the MK in 26, anything you can see? I mean, we ought, no. No, not at all. We've got announcements to me. make, but we'll make them in the appropriate time. Great to hear you. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Before we get into the specificities, specificity. Do you get hitting the head with a hammer there, buddy? Yeah, I woke up on the wrong side of the earth this morning. I want to tell you about our merch here. You want to support the show. You want to clean out our aisles here like it's a Armageddon sale. BC's farewell sale is live. Morningcombat. Shop right now, 50% off anything with BC's face on it. Let's clear those shelves, all right. Fill out your closets with my face on it.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Also, you can get for, oh, you can't get it. Long Island, let's talk, let's talk, MorningCombat. Shop, Mix and Matt's the Stiles. Let me bring in the third member of our team, the Bong Enthusious, producer, director, son of a horned Ozzie. Hey, it is Long Island main card minute Luke, Luke, what is the plan for January merch? I forgot to just update the graphic, but I was going to say that the sale is just going to run to January, the end of the episode on January 5th. We'll call it like 1.30 p.m. So I didn't, I know we're throwing this up after the fact because it says it ends on January 1st.
Starting point is 00:04:06 But either way, that's going to January 5th. After that, we'll drop January merch like the following show. So we'll figure it out. So you're saying on Jan 6th, that's when the deal's done. No, I wouldn't be the next day, but, you know, the next show. As soon as Pat Militich lands on the steps. Real quick, Nocita, we should anticipate your doc debut in one of these, right? Yes, I think six I make my debut.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So, yeah, we'll get to it eventually, guys. My family and I are here for sex. Yes, yes, that's a great throwback reference. Luke, any final thoughts on this incredible Colombian holiday you've experienced? It was great. It was nice to decompress, I'll be honest. It was good. Yeah, I'm glad I came.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I wasn't sure, you know, I was all going to go, but it was good. All right. All right. I'm glad you came. Glad Mr. Thomas did once too. It's great to have you in our lives. Can we not talk about my father ejaculate? All right.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Without any further, Freddie Adu, DC legend, right? Yeah, DC United Legend. Get it right, motherfucker. Let's get into it. So documentary number five takes us to Cleveland, Ohio. As Showtime put us up in a 1910, style hotel next to the train station for Jake Paul versus Tyron Woodley part one.
Starting point is 00:05:32 This is also the big Luke. Luke, this was the big Luke aerial reunion of sorts. Yeah, I forgot about that, but I suppose that's right. I haven't seen this one in a while, so I guess we'll see how this goes. Hey, let's hit a no Cedar documentary number five. Hello, everyone. My name is Luke Thomas.
Starting point is 00:05:50 That's Brian Campbell. And the epic words of LeBron James, Cleveland. It was raining that day, right? It was. And then it was hot as balls under that tent. It takes on a very formal opponent. By the way, shout to Manich. They just showed Corey Manichy, M.K. Levin. Am I frustrated by the lack of commercial growth?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yes, on a lot of ways. When you build something and it gets this big... The comments roasting you or I are usually some of the very best parts of this. I bit my head through this door. You know, they say pride comes before the fall. You'll be falling right now. So, look, this was, as Matt Snyder shares in our chat, this was the only doc where Jake used consistent soundtrack music,
Starting point is 00:06:43 and it really elevated it. They got us in this post-World War II. You know, if you were in Warsaw during the war, and you just found out over the radio. That place smelled, too. Did smell, yes. This is probably where it would have happened. We're in Cleveland for Jake Paul.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Cleveland is the city where we come from, so run, run, run. You really want to provide an anchor for this week's digital coverage on Showtime. What bullshit narrative are you trying to sell? I was going to say the theme of this was the Canadians are coming. Showtime had hired Ariel because MVP. and Jake Paul, you know, love working with him. They still do. Shout to Ariel. So the whole theme was,
Starting point is 00:07:29 somebody who introduced celebrity, are we losing our grip on the industry? Because we're too focused on our... Those garish robes would fit perfectly. You know, the hotel room with the balcony, looking over the golf course. I mean, that was a fake environment. Miami is a fake city.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Cleveland is a smack in the face to, you know, it really is this the end if we don't turn her shit around. We should rename these docs to just the Brian Campbell Masturbation Project because that's what this is, man. Heading into Doc 5, there's been some... Look, too bad they cut out your school shooter rant at the end of this talk. I know, I had a great school shooter rant. We do too many of these, just so that's clear.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Let me just get that. First answer right up front. We do too many of these. Look, I think this was the first doc that you actually bought in on. True or false? Oscar Willis from MacLike. Um, I think this was the beginning of a turn, yes. I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Look at that young guy right there. Keyword young. There's like seven STDs in this picture, and they all belong to Oscar Willis. That's the same Jackson of PBC over your shoulder. How many times do you think Oscar Willis has been treated for the clap? A few times. It's like the Criterion Collection, you know, his hairline didn't hold up for this interview, but he fit right into what we were doing, Luke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Jake, and each one tried to do so, you just get a consistent basis of your greatness. All right. All right. All right. This editing, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, this editing is just next level. Jake, who is basically elected by everybody, including me and Brian. He had duties this week. He had to be with Tarantly for large stretches of the week. Oh, that's right. I forgot about this. Yeah, we got Tim, right? ...shooting the doc, obviously couldn't be here. So we scheduled the documentary and found out our documentarian was double-booked. Yeah, that's great, that's great. I also feel like BC likes him because BC trusts him.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Look, you look Jack there, right? I don't know about that. Jake is sort of very welcoming of that kind of thing. Who was willing to take one for the team? That's a great episode. What our guy, Jake, right here, who doesn't know 90s music, that guy's the best. Andy King.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Jake, are you are Andy King? How many Andy King? King bits, are you going to do a Paramount BC? They're like that kind of humor? Just a few, look. Not as many as normal. Yeah. But I'll take one for the team just to say.
Starting point is 00:10:04 That man is. We got Tim on the camera, though. I will say this Apocalypse Now style interview of me in the bedroom, losing my mind is brilliant in hindsight. Can he execute a storyline? The awkwardness is I'm actually talking to him right? You really think that you're like Kubrick or something, right? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:22 What's this not going to look like? with new you know new new fresh fresh ideas all right look how many times have you seen this doc honestly this might be number two okay there's nice the dude on the left is the cavalier's announcer he was a good dude remember he was a good dude that's right he's very friendly everyone was pretty friendly here in cleveland There was some decent eats downtown, right? Maybe. It's just that staying next to that bus stop, man.
Starting point is 00:11:01 You know. Dude, remember we had Amanda Serrano, Tommy Fury on the undercard, Daniel Dubois, I believe. For the chosen one, Tyrant Whitley. You couldn't possibly sweat more than I have in this shirt, Tyrant. I mean, let's be honest right here, bro. Look, be honest, it was hottest balls under that tent. Yeah, because the humidity after it rained. It just cooked us.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Is he more bark than he is like. Content creation. Great to see you, buddy. Good to see you guys. How are you doing, Jake? Nice to see you. We're live. Jake looks young, right?
Starting point is 00:11:32 He does. I don't know. We dapped up Jake Paul. That man in the mirror, right? Okay, this shit is so. It's the backboard on the dock right here. It's over the top. There was a, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:53 got Paul revered pretty hard on that, that this was coming and, you know, did we allow this in the end? Was the idea that Ariel was getting Showtime gigs, and so you were trying to turn that into who's getting Showtime's real love or something like that? Yes, that we were focused too much on skits and bits in the art, and we were losing our grasp on on Showtime. Dude, you sweat your balls off in the hotel room. That is how I normally sweat.
Starting point is 00:12:20 That is just, I walk outside, and I'm, I'm, I'm. Patrick Ewing. Dude, Patrick Ewing, man, every time he would, like, when you see it more commonly now, but I remember, like, he was such a sweater that, like, in between plays,
Starting point is 00:12:34 the guys with the mocks would get out there on MSG and, like, you have to floor. Hey, no, Cedar, can you pause it real quick? I want to set the stage for this moment right here. So Luke and I just arrived at the press conference for Paul Woodley. Luke's sweating disgustingly. But, look, be honest here.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You had a bit of a misunderstanding slash falling out with Ariel. You knew we were going to see him there because he was working for showtime. This is about a minute before he walked in. I remember it kind of being tense. Like we didn't know what to expect. Could you comment on that? I think it was tense for you. It wasn't tense for me. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that Tim got the shot. I wanted to make sure that this was captured on film, which in hindsight as a friend is a real dick move, but you know I was committed to the art. You know that. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, listen, part of the show is I just have to tolerate bullshit you do. You know what I mean? That is, that is, and the reality is,
Starting point is 00:13:30 here's kind of how I feel about it, which is that on sometimes it's very annoying and I don't like it, but at other times, I think it actually requires me to give things to the show that I would not on my own give. Okay. Okay. And I have to say up front as we're about to hit play here, your willingness to walk this out 90% for real on camera? I give you a lot of credit. I mean, the real thing that happened was later this day it wasn't here in fact now that i've got i haven't thought about this in a long time so i think what happened here was ariel and i had a conversation and we were like hey let's have a conversation later because this is we're what we're literally showing up to a press conference like this is not the moment to have it and i think he knew that and i think i knew that and i think i knew
Starting point is 00:14:09 that and so i think at that moment we were like hey let's table this for afterwards it was later that afternoon that i met up with him where we kind of talked everything out that was a little more tense for me, because I just didn't know how that was going to go, you know what I mean? Dude, I've tried to argue so aggressively to get MK dock cameras in that sit down. No. That was never going to happen. Either miced up
Starting point is 00:14:31 or at least from a distance, which again, in hindsight is an absolute jerk move but, you know, the addiction to the art is incredible. Let's hit play. I'm just here to just keep the wonderful in the right direction. I mean, the docs speak for themselves in terms of that full-on representation of real life. This is pro wrestling. Yeah, this, this
Starting point is 00:14:49 a turning point for the brand is a lot of waste what's next okay what are you going to bring hawani in here where is he there are hawani who is now with a bunch of different places he's back in the box got vt sport we used to work together for a lot of seven years or so yeah back before i was insanely fat you were handsome back then yeah dude i used to kill it back in the day look at that look at that you're working this event
Starting point is 00:15:17 you know what i'm saying just just just yeah I was nervous. You don't know what's coming next. God, then I had to put that jacket on. Oh, my God. We were hosting the way, the presser, I mean. Was I still sweating on camera? No, you had dried up by then.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Okay, okay. So Helwani's walking in right now, and there's the first convo. There it is, Luke. I don't really remember what was said specifically other than, you know we were going hey let's talk this out later press conference and you know said hi
Starting point is 00:15:54 and then he kind of articulated that he wanted he wanted to have a broader conversation about what he thought were some misunderstandings that's right that's right now yeah that that makes more sense because he wanted it to be something it wasn't because we were all just
Starting point is 00:16:11 playing a role in BC's mental masturbation he wants to be the maestro of the own story he's crafting about how there's this you did figure me out pretty quickly to act in such a way to bring about that real life drama that he's scripting you got to get that you got to get that this is real i'm like this is i mean that conversation the area i had was very real i mean this is not scripted and if i recall correctly i think he might have approached me i'm not entirely sure he did he did yeah and i had to get him i kind of pushed him into recording it the thing about it
Starting point is 00:16:46 I see. I got my that candy on Luke's arm. You know, I was the third wheel in Doc 4 with Brendan being here. You know, I wasn't so worried about being at this week because Luke needs to heal. Well, shocker, B.C, that when you try to invent things that are not there and cannot and do not materialize, you know. This is Shotan challenging me. Well, good afternoon, everybody. I believe we're going to get a Jake citing here.
Starting point is 00:17:16 to the Buckeye State. Not Jake Paul. I'm talking about Jake Vaughan Amsterdam. I'll say this. Tyrone Woodley hasn't really aged. No. Black don't crack, Luke. You know that.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Apparently. It's okay. Just let him go through. They just walked right in the shot. Tyrone Woodley's mom just walked right in front of the shot. Although I got to say Tyrone Woodley's mom is awesome. Maybe the nicest lady on earth.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Harder to get words or emotions out of this guy, though. He's like a rock. Oh, remember they had us in that old bar at the bottom of this place? that dusty and we did the post-fight show from there if i recall correctly for m k yep it was like in the basement of this hotel yes there was like a there was like imagine the saddest cheers looking bar you've ever seen in your life and it was but this time it's not actually on the street it's actually underground and there's no windows so this part of the storyline i used to host face-to-face for pbc but ariel got the gig for mvp so we all played that off you know it wasn't really that
Starting point is 00:18:14 Deep, but we played it up. They could do the show with you alone. Absence does make everyone else's heart that normally deals with that. No, I got to tell you, I looked at the subscription numbers in my absence. That BDE, Brian Campbell, no, that is not the great Luke Thomas next to me. Then I realized pretty quickly that this ship was sink if I'm not here. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You know, we've already established the art. We've played with the art. We've predated it. I don't believe that so much, but all right. I stretched it. Is the art getting in the way of the ceiling of this show? yeah the brick walls there
Starting point is 00:18:47 I remember being like we're not going to be in the arena nope or are we in Cleveland sober enough to find out that we're losing opportunities because of that this was back
Starting point is 00:19:00 when Jake was doing stuff I liked a little bit more which was picking a fight with MMA yes yes you know what I mean Paul you're saying not finance I think that we are like
Starting point is 00:19:10 the after party of this event Yeah, more or less. All right, quick pause right here, no seat. That conversation in the car is for real. So you and I thought we were hosting the press conference like we did the way in, meaning like we would open and close the event. We were told as we were entering the car that we actually would be a web only after the way in, we would do like a little mini MK show.
Starting point is 00:19:35 So we kind of got bumped off because Ariel was hired to host this. He hosted that face-to-face. And although we were told we'll get to interview Logan, we'll get to interview the bar stool guys who wanted nothing to do with us, by the way, at all. You remember Portnoy and Big Cat? Big Cat followed me on Twitter and then never tweeted me once. Yeah, they both could.
Starting point is 00:19:56 They didn't sell any jokes. They did not want to be there. But this played perfectly into the storyline because it kind of felt like we were getting phased out a bit. But the reality, to be honest with everybody, is, I don't know, can we say this, that MVP control 50% of the broadcast? They called the shots on this.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yeah, it's not like UFC where if it airs on show or, you know, obviously it's Showtime, but if it airs on the Showtime network, the Showtime's in control of all of it. That's just not how, I mean, we'll see what happens to Zufa boxing era, but under this system, that's not how that work. The promoter has significant say, relatively speaking anyway, over that kind of a thing. The other thing to consider 2BC, just as a moment of like pulling the back of the curtain, they would tell us ahead of time, like what jobs we would have, but you would always understand it would be somewhat fluid too, right, BC?
Starting point is 00:20:44 They come to you at times being like, for example, oh, our guy fell out for this presser. We need you to fill in. Or, you know, hey, we actually got this. Now we need you to do something else. So we kind of understood that it was in motion, but there was definitely at this moment being like. And to be fair on that, we got so many great opportunities.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Of course. That if the assignment changed in real time, we might feel something like, oh, what's going on? The reality is we were overused. Like they gave us the world. Yeah, that's true. And I want to say pull back the current arrow couldn't have been nicer this weekend.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And that probably was a little awkward for him coming into our territory. And he was great, to be fair. So yeah, there was really there was, I mean, you know, you can complain about Jake Paul or whatever if you want. But like in terms of what we could complain about, there was very little other than being next to the bus stop was a little strange. I will say that. All right. Hit it, Luke. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:31 The world famous Jake Paul robot. Do you have an official name? Oh, this guy, the guy who lives in this suit? Yeah, I don't think that. You should think of that guy as like he lives in his suit. like a guy lives in a van down by the river. Dude, I have a picture of him when he took the helmet off. He looks gnarly.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He looks like one of those Carnies who works the roller coaster at the state fair. You know, making an impact on the youth. All those things can't happen if we're bringing with us on this journey past hurts. What is going through your mind right now, Tyrant, as you take on Jake Paul. It's over. What do you got there? He did a good job selling that fight. I will say that.
Starting point is 00:22:06 It's my lucky meal. One love. You see, there's raising kids. all over DC now, like they popped up in the last year or two. I had even heard of it when Jake is and what it means and what we're producing. Are you enjoying your time in Cleveland? I am. I wish we get these cameras move back a little.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I'm a little too close. Yeah, they complain the whole time. I want to introduce you to the people we'll be working with this. I understand. I understand. Y'all got a thing going on. He, we hate each other. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Dude, I got to say pornoit was a dick. Dude, he didn't sell any jokes. He didn't want to do it. I got to thought Big Cat was. actually pretty nice. I just wasn't sure about tomorrow. Portnoy. Portnoy was, did not care for us. But to be fair, this was a post show after the way in. So he probably was contractual. Dude, we got
Starting point is 00:22:52 lit up here. Yeah, we did. This was so fun. They got us a sweet at a Cleveland Indians game. Showtime did. And dude, we were, I got to tell you, this was a very good job that we had. This was a very nice job. Oh, there's Phil. There's Tristan. All the guys are here. I got beaten in a chug contest here.
Starting point is 00:23:17 This is pre-Guardians, Luke. This is like Redskins era. Tim's a good dude, by the way. He still works with Jay Aaron all. Tim looks like every dude who went to James Madison University. Yeah, yeah, the James. Tim's like the best D.P. I know, man. Tim kills it.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Tim's really good. Double penetration? Yeah. He does that too. But, yeah, that too. Oh, right. Yo, shut with his motherfucker or stop being a hub. B.C. just, he, he wouldn't even shock on a fucking beer.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Oh, you bitch. Pause her real quick. You bitch. For the record here, okay, for the record, this was the time in which my, my old man disease, I call it. You know those stretches where, like, if you drink three beers, you'll get, like, the most vicious hangover ever in your early 40s. And you're like, why am I even doing this? Yeah. So I had already taken down a couple of.
Starting point is 00:24:09 beers. I was probably, you know, row eight, about six or seven deep. So, like, I was sort of like I'm good. But I played into the, I won't do this for the storyline. And it kind of worked, Luke, it did. It did. All right. Uh, okay. This guy's, Phil smoked me on this one. I've never been a good. I can't chug very well. That's Tim, not Phil. Whoever, they're all the same. I'm ready, baby. All right, here's the swimming to Bole. I even fucked it up. Here's the swimming with bow-legged women. One more quick pause.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I got to say one more thing behind the scenes. The original edit of this had a lot more party scenes. And I don't know if you remember, there was some fear that it would expose the show on Showtime as being like this frat boy thing, which it was, by the way. That's exactly what it was. They had to not only edit down, they had to zoom in. so that we didn't show like the full staff getting loaded and acting like it was a keg party which they did by the way i don't remember that but that's this was pretty damn rowdy okay hit play thank you wait wait wait this is the real test a lot moose thomas everyone oh oh you know luke doesn't really give a shit about these guys you think he knows tim's name i still don't know tith that aged beautifully
Starting point is 00:25:33 because you just called him phil and i got to a point where i was ready to have a visit that's awesome The fist fight for the art thing was real. Snyder and I almost came to blows. Snyder, I almost threw a punch. I'm telling you. Why? Pause. Snyder was hammered.
Starting point is 00:25:51 He was getting in my face about not doing the chug thing. Snyder, do you remember? Let's bring in Matthew Snyder. Please, can we do this Long Island, Luke? I just need to put his camera on and then we're good. All right. All right. Let's go live and direct from his house in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Here's Matt Zedder. Nice road. I'm here in my shawl cardigan, yeah. Matt Snyder, I may be overplaying the I almost threw a punch, but do you remember? I don't know if you were hammered, you and I kind of got into it a little bit. It was, it got almost physical. Do you remember this at all?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Very accusatory about drinking. You were just very combative in general. Like, you really weren't fun this night at all. I'll say that. I don't remember you almost throwing fists, but I just remember you being in a very sour mood. I think I was too meta on the story. storyline because the storyline was everyone here is partying and they're not realizing that
Starting point is 00:26:44 Ariel just stole our job in that we're losing our grip on showtime. So I think you're also maybe over embellishing how much into the doc you were. I just I don't think you were having a good time. Well, thank you. Thank you for playing. By the way, Matt, you guys went all in for us. We had like a full buffet. We had all you can drink. Like this was pretty bad. It was a fun night. I also, I don't really remember to be honest with you. I don't remember this. scene being that much longer and then having to cut it down. Oh, I fully remember that. I fully remember that I got mad about it.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And then you were like, well, maybe if we just zoom in, we won't show as many people. It won't look like we were just going nuts and partying. We didn't watch like a second of the game, to be fair. We just got. I didn't watch a second of a game. I will say, and I'll dead wrong you in real time, I'm pretty sure, 95% sure that the Indians were the guardians by this point anyway. Because I remember that was a conversation point.
Starting point is 00:27:38 That's right. I do remember that. Yeah, that was a conversation. I think we were almost protesting, watching them in real time because of that name change. Okay, I don't think we were doing that, but. I definitely remember having your conversation. I was like, why the fuck are they called the Guardians?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Yeah, I didn't get that. I don't really remember this scene being that much longer, though. I don't. I can't say it. Also, in fairness, BC2, like, if we didn't want to show that, because people were worried about drinking and the impression of that, we shouldn't have had this scene at all. But I also, Matt, it did exist.
Starting point is 00:28:10 We had this conversation. We had this conversation. We were a little nervous that our boss was going to get in trouble or he would say something. Because remember, the final edit had to go through BD every time before it could air. I don't know if he watched them. I'll just be transparent. Maybe it just like you and I were the executive producers. I think you and I approved it.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I would say that for you and I, and by the way, shout out to Luke Thomas, who did try in this doc. And that's why it was so special. You and I on the road while we're shooting this are constantly updating the storyline and tweaking it. I mean, we're way too into it, to be fair, but that's what it was. Yeah, no, it's bringing up some good memories. I'm gonna, yeah, let's keep playing.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Oh, thank you, thank you. You know what it's cool to be a professional who gets jobs. Yo, no, you know, look at this stop, bro, okay? I have a theory. I wonder, like, you grew up, like, working class and, like, factory town, which is a good bit. A little alive, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:05 We let a rule. I wonder how much did he miss life events as they were supposed to happen. And so now that he's older, more established, he has a great family life, he makes good money, he has a good, you know, everything's kind of settled. Now he wants to go back and live the things he was supposed to live in. He's still in high school. I'm not a doctor. You're not far off here.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Why is someone around you constantly trying to shape reality? has this unusual need to try and influence events to fit a narrative that would be compelling and interesting to them and does it in real life. Oh, like, why would you do that? You would only do that if you missed out on something. He's probably got some questions he should ask himself in the mirror. Look, true or false, the next line was,
Starting point is 00:29:54 tell me, who's the school shooter now or something like that. I mean, you know. Yeah, I made a school shooter joke. Snyder can remember better than I could. And, uh, because if you, I think you said, I had like angry school shooter vibes and then I kind of made a point I had some kind of way to twist it and say you know I'm not the real school shooter Brian Campbell is the real school shooter and then later on I think they were like you know what we should probably take that out and then honestly of course because this is America two weeks later there was a school shooting so we were like you know what that's probably a good good call uh long island Luke reminding us there was the last year of the Cleveland Indians they were the guardians the next year in 2020 so enjoy you up cameraman Shout to Gaff.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Tommy, it's fine. But what about the next morning? What about when it's two in the afternoon and I'm still in bed at 43 years old? Oh, quick, one more final quick pause here on that. This rant, this whole scene of me and this bed, it worked because I was hung over as shit after that game. Oh.
Starting point is 00:30:56 And I was in a huge fight with my wife at the time. And it's rare that that kind of stuff affects me on camera, but I just decided to play right into like we're losing it all because we're out of control. You know what I'm saying? It worked. It worked. Luke, it worked.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I thought it was a bunch of nonsense, but you like doing this stuff. Yeah, epic music. This was what? Oh, we did CBS Sports HQ hits from here. I had a meeting with Eril Hawani. Jorge. And we talked about him and it looks like I think we reached a place
Starting point is 00:31:31 where we can. I think we can get along. Oh, yeah, and then I hung out with Mark Romondi and then Mike Bond later that night. This isn't a fight talk show. You know, this isn't even a sitcom like I thought it was. This is real life. This is a journey, high as the lows, the growth of Ben. Also, this fight was decent.
Starting point is 00:31:51 A commercial audience be there to see it. I don't know. Remember Woodley Wobbled him? This fight was certainly the better of the two. What was your interaction? And definitely had some drama because remember that one time the ropes caught Jake. Remember that? Very happy for his success.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Should have been a knockdown. Brian Campbell was a great guy. I've never had an issue with him. I'm happy for everyone. That was nice. Yeah, he DM me after. Is that the end of the dock? That's the end of the dock?
Starting point is 00:32:20 That is the end of the dock. Wow. All right. Curtain removed. This is why I say shout out to Ariel. He did DM me after and say like you guys really put me over in the dock. Thank you. and I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So shout out to it. Yeah, yeah, we weren't trying. Listen, we're not. We're just, we're just two goofballs trying to enjoy. I swear to God, what is MK? Correct me if I'm wrong, BC. It's two fucking goofballs who just love fights and just want to watch and talk about fights. I mean, it's really not much.
Starting point is 00:32:46 It is more than that, but like at its core is kind of what it is. So, you know, if we can just leave it there, it'd be great. But, you know. Yeah, life got in the way. Yeah, I've got a bit in way of that, didn't it? That's Doc 5 in Cleveland. Let's go to documentary number six, Las Vegas. is the setting and the war what is it the uh mMA awards what's it called yeah world mhmma awards i guess
Starting point is 00:33:08 which by the way they were supposed to happen last month and they didn't i don't know what happened all right let's do it this is where the docs just kept getting better this was a fucking triumphant weekend man in the end i suppose right yeah i'd love to be skinnier but no outside of that i wouldn't change the thing by this point i remember if i could i think i'm right by this point i had lost maybe 25 pounds something like so i was like making progress at this point that's what this is look at those toes yeah can't sleep unless i know who we are and that's why i'm bringing it and uh what was the question i made one request of jake during this broadcast or during this uh doc i think it's the only time i ever said i wanted
Starting point is 00:33:57 something done for me like specifically for the docks and is when we were smoking in the limo. I said I wanted him to get a slow motion shot of me exhaling the smoke. So in typical Jake fashion, this is what he does. He did it and it looked cool.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I was like, oh, I mean, I'm never going to look this cool again. It was so great. But then he also, right after that, cut in an edit afterwards of me coughing in the limo.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. I believe you also had him edit out when he was filmed us changing. Yeah, I was just like, get the fuck out of here. Who are you? Donald Trump at the Miss USA Paging? Get the fuck out of my room. Shout to Mark Cambria on the couch right there, Malka producer.
Starting point is 00:34:41 That's sort of an update on where we're at. Trains with David Branch, too, an instructor at David Branch's too. Coleyflower air, too. Yeah, he's got ugly ears. I'm a marionetta with this guy's cauliflower air. That's a big storyline. This is the last guy in the old studio. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:01 wait the old studio what does that mean we thought our docks is uh do they get better each time earlier to even make the train they certainly pause real quick we were told that i don't know if you remember this this is when money lion bought malca they moved everything across the street in that brand new huge building oh my god i forgot about that yes we were told we were going to get a brand new studio on the top floor so this was
Starting point is 00:35:33 we thought our last time in this studio in the end we stayed in this studio we did get that facelift which was awesome because we got to design it ourselves basically but this was the last time in orchids of combat hip play different each time there's a different flavor because that's life
Starting point is 00:35:49 guys this is not a scripted reality show what you're framing it you're going to therapy for mk related themes and problems in your life is that right or doc five was a a rough and real and blunt Oh, yeah, Luke, I wanted to do couples therapy with you and have the cameras there. I pushed for that a lot, but you didn't buy in on that.
Starting point is 00:36:08 You didn't need couples therapy. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, Canada came. There was a war, right? It was a beautiful war, but, you know. It was a beautiful war. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that is.
Starting point is 00:36:23 It's a reference to a Kings of Leon lyric. Oh. That's all right. Oh, is this the doc? My name's Brian King. Ryan Campbell, my name, Brian Campbell. You're a thumbs up, big smiles, regular smile. Look, you look jacked in that shirt.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah, I'm still too heavy. There's RJ Dunkelmaker before he, uh, yeah. Yeah, we'll just leave that one alone. This is the beginning of the end. This is when two stars take, you know, separate calves to the same event. Be a tiger. How about to Sally, yes. You're a wizard.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You're a, you're a, you're a, you're a. Drug wizard. You see, I've been taking pictures of drug rugs here in Colombia to show you. They are next level. And I even asked the guy in Spanish, how do you say this? And he was like, what is it? Do we see that future together or apart? It's like Sokoro, Sakaro, something like that.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Don't you think this is an overplayed narrative like you and the, you and this whole divorce? Yes. coming back together just if we're a little bit over done if we were if we were scripting these as reality TV fake events yes
Starting point is 00:37:37 face off serious like I just took 200 pictures I think okay these are better when you just watch it like as a spinal tap or something you know yes I lost those glasses I'm so better
Starting point is 00:37:51 so this is where we had that sound guy for that one day from Turkey remember News 11 a.m. BC L.B. Yes, vaguely. His name was Barack. And he was not ready to work with us, Luke, to be fair. Shout out to Courtney, yes. Oh, that's right, because he was, like, super serious, and he definitely considered us to be
Starting point is 00:38:12 to worthless clowns. M.K., from organs of combat from the original home of the bomb shelter. Luke, do you feel anything? Uh, fatigue. Dude, you had great timing on these. I got to give you the real. Yeah, this guy, this guy was like, yeah, you know, he had to steal rebar as a kid to afford food.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, this guy, this guy was like, yeah, you know, I got the vibe that he was like, you know, he had to steal rebar as a kid to afford food and took, took, took, you know, the seriousness of the job like a little too much. And so here he shows up on this set And me and Brian are like Hey, who can make the better armpit farting noises? And he also walked in front of the camera Like three times live on the show too And I think he was like, you know
Starting point is 00:39:06 This is beneath me And maybe he was right, you know I hope it kills you in your sleep Oh God, Belator previews Yeah, that we were obligated to you Is my thank you in Turkish right? What is it? Tashikula
Starting point is 00:39:24 Tishakshur? Tishakure. Tishakure. Oh, nice. Good, poor. Not bad. I was close. Oh, that was the best phone cover.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I had the best phone cover. I wasn't sure any information at all. But I got surprised with what I saw. It felt interesting experience. Definitely going to miss this set. This is one of the longest sets we have to long. Got a gap. So I had to see what we get next.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Hopefully no dons or anything here. Shelds to Gaff legend. Oh, I'm gonna miss this. In all fairness, it's kind of a shithole, but it was our shit. It's my office, dude. All of your games. That was a good bit from camera. They got us.
Starting point is 00:40:18 They got us. This morning combat. Oh, yeah. Wow. Were you high? I'm serious, guys. This is potentially an award-winning podcast, and we're going to need you, folks,
Starting point is 00:40:37 if you want to see us win an award because we are nominated right now. Best MMA programming nominee at the 13th annual World MMA Awards. Our competition, Luke, is the UFC embedded, the UFC Contender Series, the Joe Rogan Experience, and a defunct show that was once called.
Starting point is 00:40:54 DC and Helwani so Luke says you know humble brag we got no chance of winning you know Luke fuck your chances bro yes we're winning I just think you have to be realistic about your chances listen we're up against juggernauts okay we win it would be something of a you know the little engine that could kind of thing I mean that part is true bc and then there's us like fucking fubo or something you know but fubo is good I like fubo but you know you guys uh are big believers in our chances so why not what happens okay we're taking over all right tomorrow i'm getting on a plane i'm coming to los Vegas for ufc 26 all right one more pause here okay let's go full disclosure as all these scenes
Starting point is 00:41:36 are being filmed episode by episode of mk where we're talking about the awards you're saying we have no chance i'm doing the opposite and saying look we got to believe i believe i did believe we had a chance sure false how soon did they tell us hey are you guys coming to the awards because you probably should. I don't know if we've ever revealed this publicly. We were not told we would win. I've heard others get that same call out, by the way, of getting invited to come and then they didn't win.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yes. But we got on that plane believing we had a better chance than we thought we did because of that. We got hit up basically by the event organizers. And they're like, hey, are you guys coming? And we're like, oh, we're not so sure, you know. And then they kind of suggested they're like, it's probably a pretty good idea if you guys come.
Starting point is 00:42:23 it's kind of what they told us. And because I was DMing them. And then they sent me that note. They were like, it's, it's going to be in your interest. Like I think exactly what the verbiage was, but it was something like, it's going to be in your interest to go. And then I was like, I took that to the Showtime staff. And they were like, well, should we go down?
Starting point is 00:42:39 And yeah, we did. I mean, to Showtime's credit, they, they came with the full team doc cameras, rolled out the red carpet. So we felt like we thought we were going to win, but there still was that feeling while we're in the crowd. Like, you just don't know. If this, you know, because I have talked to people after who got the same invite and didn't win. So it is interesting how that played out.
Starting point is 00:43:00 But to be fair, we thought we were going to win as we were on our way there. Yes, yes. All right. Hit it here. Wish us luck on Friday. We'll be back then. If you're in Las Vegas, say hi, but please don't have COVID and brush your teeth. That rule still stands, by the way.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I don't know, some stupid bit. All right. One, two, three. We're in the car, and we're going shopping in Las Vegas. This sucks. They took us off-strip for this, by the way, and I do mean off-strip. Oh, man. But we, Luke, in hindsight, you and I both paid.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I paid for my own talks to rent. You paid for shoes. Why didn't Showtime pick that up? They paid for those garish robes. Was this when our budget was dying? I think this might have been the start, the little ink. that something was happening right i want to look nice so i said uh jake documentarian find me a a tux place that feels like royalty like that that dude he took us to a place
Starting point is 00:44:05 where it was it was bc and then 17 year old dudes getting ready for prom that is it there was nothing in between the spirit i bring to this show to this sport yo here's here's my if we win what you want but if we win here's my victory speech ready suck my fucking dude Suck my fucking dick Suck my fucking dick Oh yeah Hell yeah You should have done that on the stage
Starting point is 00:44:31 I absolutely should have done it I'm too much of a pussy Remember they told us We couldn't shoot inside there So Jake said Oh no I'll just take pictures But he was doing video the whole time Brilliant
Starting point is 00:44:42 Brilliant Yeah, really Had him right away It was fucking great Oh I forgot I just needed shoes That's right The Corps Frams I was talking to Toekster
Starting point is 00:44:52 I was talking to Tewkster. I don't feel any shame about that, Brian Campbell. Broccoli. So this was real. I was in there for about an hour and a half, right? Like, it was forever. It took forever. It might have been longer than an hour and a half, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:19 It was insane. There you go. shout up for that lady who helped me out but uh you know i gave half a day to that that's commitment and uh we got through it they edited out my insult of you here nice dress what the fuck this is a quick trip a quick turnaround and uh you could be high tailing out of there with some hardware i called you a pussy and for some reason they edited it out i don't think you need charlie's they're on for this sequel yeah either Was she in the person?
Starting point is 00:45:54 And then they took us to, we're like, oh, we're hungry. Let's go to a Mexican restaurant. And they took us to one next to a strip club. Yeah, like attached to the strip club. It was a little awkward. You had the most amount of meat I've ever seen. I ordered regular fajitas, and they brought me 50 dead cows. It's like, did we come all this way just to say we were there, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:19 or should you live and die by the code of the BC? and be optimistic and positive, you know, to remember the alamo, for sure. I don't know, I feel like a general... I've been to Vegas more times than I could ever want, ever in a lifetime. You see, the driver of that car, I don't know if you can go back. I don't know if you can go back along on, but that was the driver of the car who made, like, the techno songs. Remember that? And he even made one of the songs that they played during the Golden Island.
Starting point is 00:46:52 night's games. If you're coming on. What was his name? Like DJ Raskill or some shit? Quick pause. Quick pause on that. What was that guy's name? He was tall.
Starting point is 00:47:01 He was like a local hire. Yes. He barely helped us. And I don't know if you remember during the, was there a Canello fight that weekend? We did Canello, uh, plant with him as well. And he ended up sitting. There was an open seat in the second row while he was supposed to be working.
Starting point is 00:47:18 He just sat down during the card in the second row. And I remember we were watching from above. on the monitor going, that's the Malka camera guy. Why is he sitting in the second row of the crowd? Yeah, that guy was random, but shot it out to him just the same. I have no idea what his name was. I don't know what that's supposed to be. Yeah, Snyder, well, Snyder, not on this trip.
Starting point is 00:47:44 I don't want to do this anymore. All right, for Malka, CBS Sports Showtime, and for this laundry. Yeah, Snyder wasn't that at this trip. My name's Lucas, we'll see you later. May all your games be loyal. You haven't been to this before, right? I don't know anything about this. So, I don't know how this one's going to go
Starting point is 00:48:00 because they change a little bit every year. I've been to these a few times. We did win one year. I did go up on stage one year when I won as part of MMA fighting. Oh my God, I forgot about that. Have you really, like, attempted to put together some kind of like a victory thing?
Starting point is 00:48:12 I'm not choreographing some type of victory result. If it happens, you'll just let those emotions flow, bro. You said you're going to go up there and just start masturbate. Dude, I'm deep in the age of hair. Deep, look. you're going to play the finals i touch myself on your phone i will say now that we're here you know you're feeling it a little bit more the city kind of runs through your veins so anyway we're going to go to the awards tonight and we're going to lose and it's going to be fun that's it right i also just like being
Starting point is 00:48:38 pessimistic because then when you win it just feels so great you know yeah dude that's red carpets at five we like don't have any time yeah we shot all the mk episodes in my room that week which which means like Jake never left my room. That dude, I love Jake more than life itself, but that dude can linger, Luke. I'm like, dude, I got to drop a deuce. Like, you gotta go, alright. That's so disgusting.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I mean, that's so gross. This guy, that guy, that dude who lives to show with the hat. Yeah, his name is Ty. Ty. Ty made himself a character in the show without us asking, which is fine because he was, it was interesting. But that, there's the tall dude again. Yeah, so he's kind of a famous DJ, that tall dude.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yeah. Oh, there he is. Yo, Long Island look. I just paused it so you guys could talk about him if you wanted, but I don't know. I don't recognize him. He must be like a freelancer from Vegas. Oh, he's about to say his name. All right, let's play.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Guys, is Jack, Jackal here. Jackal. Yes. That's it. Jackal. This guy here was like, I can take you to a 24-hour drive-thru marijuana store. And I was like, I think you need hobbies. I'm like, thank you, Henry Suhudo.
Starting point is 00:49:49 But you know, sidekick there. Thank you. Just finished working with Book and Brian. Oh, that was a fun one. Not very convincing. The show is really top of the line. All right. Do I have to wear this to get changed or no?
Starting point is 00:50:02 No. Hi, everybody. Luke Thomas here. Oh, I did the Schmo show. Yes. Wow, man. And Hell and G. And he gave you underwear.
Starting point is 00:50:13 We are the close of the SchmoZone. We have Luke Thomas, one of the brightest minds in combat sports in studio. I'll split on the podcast, but it's a dual power of separation. Dude, Schmoe's studio was so fucking cool. First of all, he was very friendly. He did gift me underwear, but that's okay because he's Schmo. He basically rented out.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I don't know if you bought it or rented it. I'm not assuming he rented it. What used to be an old dentist office. And he would create various scenes and setups in the offices. You can see here, this was the main one where they would do podcasting. So they had like a green room for anyone who needed it. They had like a waiting room for like other people, a reception area, private rooms. And I was, I forget what the rent was on it.
Starting point is 00:50:57 He told me it was not too far off strip at all. And it was like insanely affordable, B.C., like nothing. You know what I mean? Hey, Schmo hasn't been nothing but good to us. I always respect that. You know, you can say whatever you want about Schmo, but you better say he hustles because he does. Another grown man is giving me underwear. You're not the first man to do that this year, by the way.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Okay. Men are gifting other men underwear. I've noticed that. Dude, Snyder really let us down not going on this trip. I mean, I don't know where he was. Why didn't Snyder go on this trip? I don't know. Was this when his first son was born, maybe?
Starting point is 00:51:29 He doesn't remember he says in the chat. Look at your, oh, those are my toes. No, those were mine. Oh, good. I know those toes anywhere. I want to tell you why I'm wearing this particular tuxedo. I don't like it when they do the Italian restaurant bit where you can see the tie go around their collar. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:54 So I wanted a white collar to cover it. You see how the balls to show up to a black tie event without a, forget a black tie without a tie at all. Damn right. That's the secret sauce in what makes morning come back. They rented us a van. Like this is great stuff in hindsight. And they were like, where do you guys want to party? And we're like, we don't know how to party.
Starting point is 00:52:13 No, we were like, we're too old for that. We're like, can we go out to eat and get, and, you know, get loaded? I mean, come on. Hi, me, amour. Thank you, mea, more. Thank you very much. Oh, I love that. Can I just say hi?
Starting point is 00:52:29 Let me say hi to Tuki, me, more. Oh, la, my amor. Oh, la. Hey, wait. Tugita, we're aamo. ladies bro so they had a pretty data pretty decent spread no they didn't they had cold sliders look cold ice cold my god you're right you're so right you're so right yes I forgot but it wasn't open bar so I was I was down yes I think that was
Starting point is 00:53:03 Eric Nixix kid with Francis and Gano who was it that came up to me real drunk and was like you who was it was it was Jason Perillo yes it was he was you can tell that i had pissed him off somehow and i yeah but he was too drunk to or he appeared to be anyway i don't know if he actually was but he feared to be so he was real cool to us up show he was real cool um you know and so he didn't remember what to say to me and in making nice for a night we should probably go tip to tip once all right problem so they miced us up here they had all our conversations on on tape while we were getting loaded
Starting point is 00:53:44 got just one was a solo bit thank you oh they guys wanted my my picture solo for whatever reason and i love that they have this it's it's ms academy awards i was legit nervous in the crowd because i didn't want to have the the doc crew be there and then we didn't win look i was really nervous about that He didn't to be here and meet all these MMA in agents. Dude, Grandma Habib was there. I was looking forward to who and what we're going to say. Grandma Habib rules.
Starting point is 00:54:17 She DMs me on IG a lot. Thank you very much. Yeah, we're going to make some noise tonight. Justin Gitchie was nice to us that night. He got mad at me years later, but. Yeah, he was doing dip. You remember? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Oh, and you had the beef with, uh, with, uh, Anthony Smith, right? Yeah, we had squashed. Or maybe we hadn't yet. No, this was when I went right up to him and talked about it. That's right. I went right up to him and was like... I mean, they've kind of been struggling up until I appeared on the show. So I don't want to take all the credit.
Starting point is 00:54:50 But I also will. So you're welcome, guys, but also congratulations on me. Probably doesn't get your laid, but I would hope it would, bro. How would do? Conversing. The thing about the idea of a D-List celebrity, an ensemble. That's not D-List. That was the pink jacket guy.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Jason Cohen? Yeah. yeah because you know that's your boy jake shield something like that oh there's sean shelby okay oh shawfkett's manager came up to us when we were sitting there he was real nice you remember that shofkot's manager yeah oh danie danny not brer
Starting point is 00:55:29 no the other guy because danny rupe was there too but the other guy i don't remember quick quick pause Wait, you mean Um He also For Dawes? Is that his name? So he was all
Starting point is 00:55:44 When I was in November of this year When I was at MSG for UFC week He was with Islam's team as well And he came up and he was like yo remember me And I'm like yeah from the MMA awards I remember for Dawes introduced himself But I don't remember if he reped Shavka All right I might have the Shia
Starting point is 00:55:59 Syat Is that the guy Siyat's the guy who's in everyone's corner He translates for half of them He's Danny Rube's partner That's probably the guy. S-A-Y-A-T S-Y-A-T, Siyat. He was a real nice guy,
Starting point is 00:56:12 real nice guy. So, shout out to him. By the way, this is where I went up to Anthony Smith, and he goes, you know I could be really angry with you right now if I wanted to. And then we talked it out and he was so cool, and I give him a lot of credit. He's a chill, dude. I was doing a bit there like, you know, it was kind of a shab-skits
Starting point is 00:56:28 and bits thing where I'm like, oh, your friend Anthony Smith, and I was kind of dunking on him, and I'd give him credit. He was cool about it. You never know. Somebody could put me in a rear naked at any point. here. By the way, the entertainment was like weird as shit at this event. It was a guy with an electric guitar who clearly thought he was God's gift to, I don't know, all of us. That guy. There he is. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:53 These are your nominees for trainer of the year. Win or lose. Come back on Monday morning. Bringing it. I'm absolutely bringing it. Because, you know, this is, this is what I do. This is the passion that I bring to the show. it's just another day on this journey on this MK journey I don't think we were pretty sober for this right at least at this point no no
Starting point is 00:57:17 quick pause again I'm sorry we got a quick pause here we had a lot of we had a good amount of drinks in the happy hour I mean I was deep in the eighth Luke I was you know I was nervous I don't know if I was that yeah I felt it would have been hugely embarrassing if we went with the camera crew and didn't win especially if we we thought we were going to win oh so you were trying to compensate
Starting point is 00:57:38 This was such a D-list event that I don't know if you just saw at the podium. One of the guys giving out awards was that dude on the skateboard who put out the Instagram video of him skateboarding with the ocean spray bottle to the, uh, remember that? To the Fleetwood Max song was playing in the background. Like that's how low level this event was. Hit play. Thanks. The Shark Nato films and bring it on actress and activist Cassie Skirbo and UFC strawweight fighter Emily Whitmire.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Oh, BC. produced some of the most entertaining content in all of sports. Sharing the fruits of their labor, the nominees for the best MMA program. Did we even get applause? I don't remember if we did. Are you kidding me? Pause it again. Luke, I got to give love here.
Starting point is 00:58:22 A second later, we win this. When we won this, do you not remember the MMA journalism crew that was sitting behind us who were hampered? Dude, Okamoto was lit up like a Christmas tree. It was Alshadhi, Mike Bone. Oscar Willis Brett Elcommoded No, no, no. So they were very, very friendly
Starting point is 00:58:41 and they were very, very cool. What I'm saying is, like, the general crowd. I don't think the general crowd knew who we were or cared. But I will say, like, our people got our back and they celebrate like we won the World Series. All right, thank you.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Dana White's Contender Series. No podcast has ever won this award. This award has only been won by UFC-produced TV shows. Remember that album? And the winner is Morning Combat. Yeah! I love it. Pink jacket guy just gave us a hug too.
Starting point is 00:59:29 He was cool. Yeah. No, he's dipping. There's Justin Gage, he's dipping. Justin Gage, Diffin. Surprise. Because I don't know how we won that either, except the MK fans who are the best fan base in the world.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That's the best moment ever, Luke. We got them. We're better for them. Luke, it was UFC legend, Harold Howard, who said, if you're coming on. Come on, we're coming. MK's coming. MK keeps coming, Luke, you know what I mean? That they made us give the trophy back.
Starting point is 01:00:02 We're out here alive. The M.A awards are continuing. Brian and I are. trying to process what the fuck just happened that was awesome they did mail you guys the trophy to be fair
Starting point is 01:00:17 I have it in my house now but that night we had to just give it back you want to say hi this is this is a showtack I mean Emily did you think we had a chance in hell you don't know who we are dude you guys did have
Starting point is 01:00:28 underdog feel she was home over Rouse she was nice thousand yard stare at Yeah, magic. She was real nice, but she didn't want to be there, that's for sure. No, she didn't. I just want to say thank you. I mean, I said it was the first thing I said in there.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I'm dead serious. Like, thank you. Like, why? It doesn't go like this for a lot of people, dude. It doesn't go like this. That's real, Luke. For us today because of you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yo, because you believed. Okay. Seriously, dude. Fucking, don't you ever, you can never take it. It can never take this shit like this for granted. Ever. You suck my fucking. dick mk i'm they're programming of the year take that i remember that shot that was a great
Starting point is 01:01:16 yeah we'll come back next year okay we did win at the next year we didn't go to this ceremony but we did win at the next year yeah oh i forgot about that jesus al wendling out out shout to al winley a legend who used to be a producer on the show This is like the moment right here. I was just like flying, Luke. This is amazing. I know. And this is where they asked us.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Like, hey, where do you guys want to party? We'll go anywhere. We're like, can we have dinner and go to bed? Not saying, fuck Jay. We should have, we should have sent Jay to hell on the stage. During the speed. We didn't. We didn't shout out Mikey.
Starting point is 01:01:57 We missed that one. We fucked out. He was a big part of this. Well, he's lucky that we're merciful gods. But it crossed my mind. to be like, yo, and by the way, fuck Jay. But, you know, Hanukkah was recently in. Wait, I'm going to call the restaurants to see they can take a...
Starting point is 01:02:17 Where do we go? Right, Luke? Hell yeah. We went to, like, the steakhouse at Caesars. It was like an old mobster place. Yeah, it was all right. It was fine. That's what I wanted.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I wanted him to do that. And then he put this in. That dick, he always doesn't. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll make you look good. I'll make you look good. And then he sneaks that shit in. Oh, yeah, Rod Stewart. That's great.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah, that's so random. I love it. Yeah, we had nice steak that night. That was good. Too bad Snyder didn't show for this. What a moment. Courtney was there, though. She had our back, Luke, always.
Starting point is 01:03:09 That was the production guy who also got dressed up in a tux. Oh, Ty? Yeah, he got a free meal out of that. And then this is random. We're in Tampa the following week, right? For Jake Paul, too? I believe so. You said it from Northern Virginia outside of D.C.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yeah. Do you know who Luke Thomas is? Yeah. Yo, what up? What up, bro? On top of the world, baby. Martine! Gautio.
Starting point is 01:03:49 The film documentaries around here. The superstars are good, it is. You know, I hope someone document... Martine is the Spanish translator, or he was for Showtime, and now, I think, WBC or something... Yeah, PBC. It's a great T-shirt, too. Damn, I got to find that shirt.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Live from the Semino Hard Rock Hotel and Casino. Dude, Darren Williams from the NBA. Remember he fought on this current? Yeah, yeah. He was cool, actually. We are the host for your stream here today. It was a party in the end. It was a three-man party.
Starting point is 01:04:25 So we did that pre-game preview with Ariel. I think it's our highest viewed one still. It might be, yeah. The fans loved it. And I think that's what's most important. we've already been up the highs and low that fight sucked though the knockout was spectacular and everything else about it was terrible our travel schedules back then we're out of control too
Starting point is 01:04:51 congrats guys but you know pretty soon that red light's coming back on it's time to deliver and that's what I do. Didn't we meet up with Coach Phil McCracken on this weekend, too, from the NFL? Yes. We had dinner with him, one of these previous nights. Shout out to Phil McKagan. Great guy. Any period of prosperity was typically followed by a dark chapter of absolute calamity and despair.
Starting point is 01:05:20 So while this is a good moment, I am merely preparing for judgment day. Pause it. Pause it. Pause it. Ryan Campbell. did I nail that one or did I well I mean I never give someone credit when they're like I nailed it I predicted my demise and it happened
Starting point is 01:05:39 I'm like yeah okay you brought that shit on all right come on Jesus Lord have mercy there was a lot more that was shot in Tampa that hit the edit room floor we put about five minutes into it but whatever they used to bring us donuts minimum four Boston creams and a dozen that's what I had to tell him you got to have at least four Boston creams or don't order the donuts all right it was a rule yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:06:12 dude the new set was chef's kiss and we got to pick everything and they paid for it all Luke I love it yeah that was great oh yeah this is where we belong this is the peak of the profession right here so we put those web screen posters eventually around there too yep that's right I think it's this I don't know if Luke's gonna be in on the AEW championship belt right there
Starting point is 01:06:42 but that's my style right this isn't even better than my high school bedroom wow these are the books you wanted no but they're the books we needed ancient Rome Luke sounded like it's chairs this might have been my first day in studio
Starting point is 01:06:56 is this the high court day too with Chuck I don't know I don't know Oh Holy shit This is impressive This is what the top looks like Luke
Starting point is 01:07:07 Nice beard Luke The wearing the mask Messes of your beer It's like it completely Just changes everything I have to go and wash it And then re-comb it
Starting point is 01:07:20 Wow I was got an AEW belt as well We just won the award We're trying to win another award This is not a great This is not a great chair It'll work for today, but it's not a great chair. Your boy, B.C. gets announced as one of the new members of the showbox team.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Oh, wow. It's all coming together until it fell apart. That seemed to be crossing past the right time. When you prepare, Lucas Conflictor, you need to be very particular. For a big rough and tumble guy, he sure takes it like an old bitch, right? Once again, just unnecessary shots. All right, you guys ready to go? You know, this MK set is kind of like the path of our peoples in the last year and a half.
Starting point is 01:08:09 No, Cita, what was that, the girl's name with the glasses? It's, it's, it's, it's, I've changed, Carly, Carly, Carly's awesome. Shout to Carl. And we are live in 10, 9, 8, 7, you know, but it persevered. this is an entertainment series is my life you know I hope you guys grow you know with us
Starting point is 01:08:38 oh that is my core you're right you hurt I forgot about that screen on the back how we could adjust it as we needed to like have different things that thing was a pain in the ass but it was cool at home to my own
Starting point is 01:08:58 A lot of caffeine in the veins right now. I am excited about this show. May all of your gains be loyal. Great doc. What a dog. No, see, I've got to bring you back in here. So that's your first day on morning combat, right there. Yeah, we did a show in the morning live show. We did high court after, and we maybe did a pregame preview or something.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Because we brought Chuck in, so I feel like we did more than just high court. So what were you thinking that first day? Did we even talk to you? You both introduced yourself. to me kind of thing, but we didn't really like, you know, you didn't know who I was or anything. I do remember there was a segment during that show and you guys were like, if PFL could sign any UFC fighter right now, who would it be? And you guys were all stumped. And I told Manich to say in your ear, Sean O'Malley. And you guys were like, that's exactly the answer.
Starting point is 01:09:46 And you were like, great, call Manich. And I was like, damn, that was me. But yeah, but where's Monich now, all right? That's what I'm saying. Manich is the man. Shout out, Mani. I love Manich. He's a huge part of what this show was. All right. that was doc six we won the damn award so this was where we took some time off for the docs we didn't know if we were going to do another one because to be to be fair luke the budget started to really tighten up after this point yeah we were not this point there was some changes afoot we were not going to the studio on a regular basis it was very expensive to go to the studio so we were starting to really go like once a month you know if we had a bunch of shoots we we were really packing it in where we do full day shoots of like four or five different things so yeah yeah This next doc, the final one, seven, really covers a full year. And I hope it's not our last one. But here it is. I believe it's called Coming Home.
Starting point is 01:10:36 It's time for the best doc we've ever done. Where's the mic right here? Where are you? That's the Park MGM. One second. Hold on. My wife's text in me. Give me just a second.
Starting point is 01:10:54 International Fight Week. Snyder's reminding us, 2022. There's Snidey. He's back. Oh, wow. So this was released in October of 22. On this 13th of December, 2020, Snyder letting us know we're overselling the budgets being cut,
Starting point is 01:11:24 but I don't trust his memory. I think our budgets were getting cut. No, they were getting cut. yeah morning combat we're back and you know what we're just better together a marvellous monday wednesday mk chobiter i think you drank too much mescal you didn't remember hey look who it is pregame preview everything is bigger in texas yeah the smallest want to come in and see my friend i gotta take a huge deal A consistent refrain on my, uh, in my career.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Oh, that's right. It was out of, out of Sonia cannoneer was the internet IFW main. Ah, that's right. Jesus, a bit of a letdown for I.F.W. Yeah. Is he ready for us? I didn't know you were a character. Snyder looking fit, Luke. You know, you got to give them. Always, always, Snyder stays trim. Yeah, look, your room is always a mess.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I mean, it's just... No, you know what? It used to be, but I've really... You're going to laugh at me. My wife convinced me to turn over a new leaf, and I keep them pretty tidy now. Okay. Do you know how many times I've gone into your room
Starting point is 01:12:40 and you've had suitcases wide open on the floor with cords and clothes all over the place? Thursday the 30th? It always sounds like shit in your room. You're going to be fair, Luke. A BC and I just attended the... USC 276 press conference, aka the Gathering of the Juggalo's. So that was fun.
Starting point is 01:12:58 All right, Gizzi has been pretty provocative saying he's going to fuck you up. He's going to kill you. Is it better for your game if you've got an issue chasing? Listen, I'll be, I mean, no bullshit. It's been a good week. It's been a good week. You got to go inside Max Holloway's hotel room. Yeah, oh, I remember that.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I've got gray covering you. That's what it's done to me. Unbelievable. Dude, you got good interviews for CBS. You did that sit down without Asana at that mansion. Yeah. You did this Holloway one that did big numbers. And that was a great RSD week.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Yeah. And this is when you blew me off and went to see Nixick and just left me in the hotel room. I didn't blow you off. You did not make yourself available. It's not true fact. Cody Stammon coming up here shortly. How are you coming? Tomorrow here in Las Vegas, a live.
Starting point is 01:13:55 No, Nick Sixth one of the best dudes ever. Looks like I couldn't say a bad thing about him if I tried. We haven't even got to the fights yet. Oh, God, the beer house. Jesus, gosh. Yes. Damn, a lot happen in this stock. easy on top but somebody's got it's not easy to be in the top right it's much easier
Starting point is 01:14:27 being a power bottom come in yeah yeah come in what do you what do you want me to nail on that don't put that on what I was it's my you what do you see see that's what he does like yeah don't put that on there and I'll put it on there I'm at I feel like piece of shit I figure we should play into that we're in Las Vegas for you have think we were struggling for a storyline at this point for this guy it is time to be optimistic and happy right like like we're here because of the fans like you know luke is always about numbers numbers numbers i'm about the art luke gave us a very good very concise you know like he was very meticulous he gave us a very concise interview i'm surprised you said yes i
Starting point is 01:15:07 we need you to do the same because your interviews have historically been too rambling fuel exactly i was legitimately surprised you played ball on this doc you gave him a really live across the board is when they were 17 and like that's cool it's like I you know I was pretty cool when I was 17 you know I I don't want the best thing that ever happened to us was that we won some award and had a billboard up in the UK and and you know it was really cool but like hey remember we did have that that's true yeah two different locations in London that's crazy and get to the next level you know everybody loves the band when it's their local band but then suddenly the band's playing
Starting point is 01:15:50 amphitheaters opening up for for like mumford and sons and now we don't like him anymore you know what i mean this is about you know losing that romanticism you know i had i had uriah faber on that casting couch next to me this week great interview said you know what do you miss most about the wecs that romanticism that that feeling you used to get remember we asked him about getting chicks after he won the championship luke and he was like yeah never had problems before yeah it's like we're like oh did it really change for you after you became famous he was like no not really i've always been killing it we're like yeah okay we didn't i mean i didn't i didn't write in my 20s but there's a lot that that that that has me thinking you know
Starting point is 01:16:33 there's mike what up get fucked drop down where's my starboard where's my documentary team okay how does jake keep showing up on these i don't understand he wasn't He didn't work on the show for years at this point. Like a cool active debt. Yeah, he's got some, you know, holes in his game to look at him right now. But bro, we're not the best sports podcast in the world. So that was why I was late because I had to shit in my room. I was like, I know these assholes are going to get better if I shit in me.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Yeah, they would have. They feel like, he was, uh, they really rolled out the red carpet and made him sleep in the room that there's a studio. This isn't just saying that shit to fit the back of a t-shirt. That is awesome. cables and cum stains and I don't even know if they're his do that scoff running the show with Greg the cameraman that guy's the best right but Greg Gelber me I just absolutely rub my balls on every piece of equipment in there but here's the deal 5 p.m. Pacific time at the conclusion of the UFC you see a little thinner here ceremonial weigh-ins and face-offs it is beer
Starting point is 01:17:41 house right it's a beer house there you go this was was a big deal dude doing this live show at the beer house that was a big deal yeah i was at the beer house if you're gonna be here yeah please we'll see all right yeah oh fuck man Jake make sure you take all the footage where we look the fattest and then cut out the one yeah he would he would people don't know how much how much you have to give in a two-hour show live all I'm doing is given you guys didn't even react to your bullshit It's on the FFL for us on the neck. They're like, what about Sotic O.C taking on in Rory?
Starting point is 01:18:24 You're like, is he washed a shit? I'm like, all right, we're done here. Dude, those shorts, we had some, a few appearances with those shorts. Did he have taken a bit of a hiatus from the docks? Well, have we taken a hiatus from the docs? I would say the answer is yes, and I would say that is long overdue. Because with a budget was going away, Snyder. You've got to be honest about this.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Yeah, it was. I think the last one we did was what December? It was stock six. It was you guys won the award. Yeah Snyder says we were running out of material. That was awesome. That was the ideas we're going away at this.
Starting point is 01:19:01 January was a weird month for us. First time on set with the new set. Let me restart that. Nice work you. Yeah, I know I'm six. Dude, Cambria isn't underrated character in this box. You got to give it to a little bit, yeah. Luke's a bit of an old bitch.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Just constant, constant negativity. I mean, was I wrong, though? And then, you know, Superman's going to come and sweep you off your feet. But the reality is, you just, you know, you go back doing the exact same shit you were doing before. Beer is like fun and stuff. Well, yeah. Hydration's key. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Oh, yeah. On the rooftop. I do miss that. I miss those days a lot. Yep. That was a day we... Sorry, I was going to say we cranked Jay there. $500 worth of costumes for high core.
Starting point is 01:19:59 He says the budget was still solid. What were you saying, no, Sita? We wrote fuck you, Jay, on the LED wall because it kept breaking all the time, and we're like, Jay, the LED wall is broken. It said, fuck you. Oh, my God, I forgot we had Espinosa in studio. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:14 They brought in custard for Espinosa to announce the boxing schedule for the showtime boxing schedule for this spring and summer. I think he was a gross pig. I'm bringing it to the boss. Let's talk shop. Let's talk game. Thank you very much, Steve. Yeah. No, it was.
Starting point is 01:20:34 It was an incredible. He played ball with us. I love Stephen. Stephen Espenosa, you know, people are going to. like anybody in the industry are going to have their opinions but i can just say with great clarity he's always been extremely good to me same for me i i still work with my pbc uh i've got nothing about respect talk about i don't even if they know i don't even know if they know that that the earth isn't there's tristan plotting his next murder look at how tired maniche looks
Starting point is 01:21:06 well this is an all-day shoot here like these are these are long days that you once hated me Now you love me, but you're ready to hit me again. And that's the thing I'm trying to stop. I don't know what this is, by the way. Dude, this was the best episode of it. Literally the best episode of it. Dude, Jake just came into this character with the British accent, and he just delivered.
Starting point is 01:21:27 I had no idea what to expect. I told him, like, 10 minutes before. Jake, you're coming out and you got to be on. Look, he's brilliant, Jake. Come on, you got to give him that. Yeah, he's. He's a bigger part of the show that I think a lot of people realize.
Starting point is 01:21:46 This ends absurd, Luke. Let's see which one you... Yes! Are you ready? I'm ready as I'm going to be, bitch. Look, you're doing the show with a vape pet in your hand. Just just not...
Starting point is 01:21:56 No cares about what. Oh, God. We don't talk about Bruno. But it was my wedding day. You did commit to the bit, Luke. I'm telling the story or am I... I'm talking to be a go... Sir, you have had you.
Starting point is 01:22:12 much to drink, sir, we'll clean your off. That was terrible. Woo. You know, the only thing cool about this doc is that, you know, there's a variety. And you talk about the growth of men a lot, right? I heard you say that. You know, the growth of my career
Starting point is 01:22:31 has been not just what I'm doing on MK, but what I really want to be doing. And that's calling fights, working at fights. This is where we got. lucky I don't know how to fight because I was out on a show box shoot and Jake happened to be working it for showtimes mm-hmm so we got doc footage in Deadwood South Dakota you know what I mean like these are where it worked out in our face oh that's right you were there for the one of the what you call it
Starting point is 01:22:59 cards the showbox event yeah but I'm sorry Snyder the budget was tight at this point we got to bring him back on to talk about Minneapolis right you know I think Jake, were you there? All right, maybe not many of us But, um You know, I want to show the people that Can I do all sides of it?
Starting point is 01:23:21 Dude, Deadwood's a weird town, man. What's up, guys, it's your boy, B.C., and after having to hear for years about Luke Tom Just for men in the house. About time to see my other job here, Showbox, the new generation, Deadwood edition. Let's go check it out.
Starting point is 01:23:34 You did a tour through town? Yeah, it was, the town is one street. It's real weird. Marquez, Daddy, trainer, broadcaster. I'm trying to show through the prism of my art that is broadcasting through this thing that there's not a job that I can't do. All right, so guys, here's a tour of what we do on Showbox, a new generation. Your boy, B.C. sits here.
Starting point is 01:23:56 We got microphones, and that sounds arrogant, but that's what gets me out of bed each day. I've got a large head, and that's not something I've ever tried to hide from. Oh, real quick side here, if you can pause. So this was the Showbox show where Raoul Marcus' kid made his pro. debut. Giovanni, shout out to Geo. And so we called that fight. There was a local makeup lady that they hired for this event in South Dakota. She's probably like 70 years old. And when she was put on my makeup, she goes, hey, you see over there on the on the bar? Because we were in like this back room area, which was like a bar. She goes, I brought cookies for the crew. She goes,
Starting point is 01:24:31 I made them myself. They're contraband cookies. I'm like, oh, okay. Oh, I remember you telling me this. Yes. She's like, you got to eat one. I'm like, well, if they're contraband, I'm going on the air, I probably shouldn't. Like, you know, she's like, no, you have to. I'm like, look, I'll take a bite. She goes, no, you have to eat at least half of one. You have to.
Starting point is 01:24:51 And she kept challenging me, and it was weird. And I finally said, bring the box over here. A half of it. Luke, I was so lit during the 10 minutes before we go to air. We do like a dress rehearsal. Slur and my words couldn't get it together, dude. But then when the camera came on and the red light came on,
Starting point is 01:25:09 dude, I absolutely delivered after the show. She never told anybody that they were contraband. The whole crew had eaten them. I went over to the box. It was completely empty. So I scooped up all the crumbs and put it up my pocket. It went back to the hotel room. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:24 That was the true story. He's not coughing on air, right? Not getting blood on my brand new dress shirt. And what was the question? I can do the goofball fun and game shit there. So, you know, they say when and it? deadwood you gotta assimilate yourself deadwood is just a bunch of casinos with a steakhouse in it let's go check out what it's really weird it has to offer doesn't have a lot to offer that's up to
Starting point is 01:25:48 your interpretation but let's check it out you know i wouldn't call it a factory town vibe but you know not today karen you had a beef with a motherfucker you just you know you shot first and became a legend later you know weekends it brings the crowds out to deadwood you know they got over here every casino's got a steakhouse in it you know the only thing left to do now is get ready to fight so i'm fired up excited thanks for thanks for watching i'll never go but show up i'll find that with me you'll see a different yeah we were out of ideas let's be very clear here we were out of ideas in doc seven maybe that's why it took a whole year to put there's the lady luke's once more by partner brian campbells
Starting point is 01:26:36 there's the lady that was her yes you want to see the buttoned-up guy and the decently is that barry tomkins yeah the best eighty two years old at this point still deliver i'm if i'm 82 i'm not showing them to a motherfucker fight yeah not in deadwood right a real donk in the crowd Wow. Dude, there were a lot of MK fans in the crowd here at South Dakota. I got to credit. There's this dude named Chance who showed up, brought his father-in-law with him, who had a beard
Starting point is 01:27:13 down to his feet. I mean, it was a gnarly place. Look at the first professional round from Giovanni Market. He's pushing the action and the phone booths. He's a major theme of these four rounds. He won a decision? Yeah. A guy to watch moving forward.
Starting point is 01:27:30 There's Edward de Los Santos. Remember he fought Shakur? Yep You're still the same White Trass piece of shit you've always been Great Great editing This is Spence Ugass
Starting point is 01:27:46 Yes Micah Parsons Yeah that was pretty awesome actually Well it was cool to do a show with him But don't you remember he didn't give a fuck about talking to you or me No no no He may have shaken my hand but that was the extent of that And reluctantly at that.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Yeah. You'll get you vape it on set, Luke. You have no F's to give it. Stack. Stack and Raul are great to work with. Absolute pleasure. Yeah, stack's great. Stacks very, very, very, very friendly.
Starting point is 01:28:17 So we're back in the bomb shelter today or, you know, orchids of award-winning combat. It's for a big thing. We're going to launch our interview series, room service style. Yes. This is a good day right here, Luke. Good day. That's a good day.
Starting point is 01:28:29 With the morning combat crew. Glover was fucking great in the end, man. He was. He didn't get all our jokes, but he was great. But he, you know, he was there to play ball a little bit. And he also had cool stories. You know? He just made you want to hang out with him and drink beer and mull the lawn.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And in it, we just had a conversation about all the things that we love to do. We're just two heterosexual guys who bang. What ended up happening over time was that people were like. Dude, those pandemic haircuts were so bad. how do we not get fired for that shit i mean seriously why don't we just take some of that aesthetic they rolled up a a fake $100 bill and put it on set yeah with people we want to talk to well jay get the fuck off dude jay keeps showing up is taking content squared right if that means to the next level to the next is that mikey at the bombshells of there never was there we
Starting point is 01:29:28 did one with Glover Toshera he was there he came out I can't remember why maybe he was like visiting family or something could be it's supposed to look like a dirtbag because that's our attitude you know what I'm saying look this is the only one I sat in your chair for I believe I believe that's right so that chair legitimately had a loose spring that would go up your bunghole if you if you didn't sit right on it see we gave him a crown we had a look we had a good ass time all right the budget was decent this day tonight we did we do this the same day like back to no no i think we did one the next day
Starting point is 01:30:09 okay john brady's gonna think we're a bunch of pervers yeah yeah a lot of the t levels just went up since i entered this don't think i've worn my shirt since then yeah i'm not i gave that i went to the grocery store but i'm looking forward to it dude sean's the man what a good was also fucking cool oh look at this you know now you can sit in oh you gave him the drug rug
Starting point is 01:30:36 hell yeah dude remember we gave bomber jackets to raphawn stah it's like we had a good gig going there okay maybe we still had a budget all right Snyder maybe we're back in this
Starting point is 01:30:47 but they were definitely so they were definitely trying to bunch us together though we see that part is true so I'll feel like playing this little fucking game Snyder thinks the budget budget didn't get dipped till 23 but he's wrong in studio and uh totally shit been doing our new uh revamped series this was a long couple days here if you
Starting point is 01:31:10 remember we did one with sean brady and then today we are trying probably against our better judgment uh a companion and then also a post fight show which is probably a really bad idea to do both but here we are my producers are right here being like this fucking guy. I know you all were talking shit in that room. Definitely. Like, I just, you know, too good for them, you know what I?
Starting point is 01:31:38 All right, quick, I got to get Snyder in here one more time. Luke, can we do it? Can we get Snyder in here? Can we pause it? Pause it, pause it. Let's bring in Snidey one more time if you can. All right. Snides. We'll get to the budget in a second, but Luke could be Kurt at any moment here and we all kind of had to dance around it, right?
Starting point is 01:31:57 we were balancing a lot of emotions yeah it was difficult at times i like how you think my emotions are the ones to balance meanwhile we have to deal with your bullshit too there's always a tax to pay either way motherfucker Snyder i will say you were our producer but you were also our marriage counselor like a lot of the time you kept luke and i from from taking anything personal against each other and you kept the ship moving i give you a lot of credit for that yeah i was um putting out fires as you said i think that was that was your line um yeah i was there i like to consider myself the the mk spirit guide throughout all of this and um you know it was fun it was fun this is these long weekends are tough to get through when you're vaping and drinking and
Starting point is 01:32:43 eating bad takeout you know we were not managing our health as good as we could have i'll put it that way no luke you looked like you were just hit by a truck in that video yeah you looked actually terrible in that terrible this is i will tell you what's kind of gotten interesting is i have a i have a time sleeping in hotels now and i think this was the beginning of that this was the beginning of me having a real so we might be there for three four days or something by day by the end of the because that's saturday here i'm previewing that right yeah i'm saying we're going to do a companion and then and then a post fight so that means that's saturday's fights by that point i must have been just completely fucking wreck well not only are you exhausted we're about to be on camera for six
Starting point is 01:33:20 straight hours yeah some of that was self-imposed in terms of what you guys wanted to do that's true yeah but i will say too i just bc we cranked out so many of these docs in a short amount of time and many of them were thematic in terms of like yeah we were coming back to studio um doc three we could have done without that that was unnecessary four was like okay like we're doing like a fun fight with logan paul floyd mayweather it's one of our first times back on the ground in a long time uh doc five was the whole aerial thing six was you guys winning the award like These all made sense, like, we started pushing them out longer because we were having more artistic fun with them. And, like, we were running out of material in some way.
Starting point is 01:34:04 That's true. So it's like, and any time we read on a material, I was like, okay, it's me versus Luke again. And you'd be like, kind of already did that. Right. And like, I will say, too, the problem was like, and I'm jumping ahead. After Doc 7, which we're watching right now, you guys, we went to London after like we won the, or no, it was the just, that sports podcast. Yeah, we headlined their podcast.
Starting point is 01:34:27 You guys headlined it. Yeah, there wasn't an award for that specifically. But we shot all that footage and we had a bunch of other good material. And then that was the exact same time as the collapse of the greater showtime CBS Paramount experiment that we had here. And then, you know, now we're sitting on a lot of footage. All right, Matt, let's ask you an honest question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Was M.K. a sustainable ideas financially? I mean, I think it was back that. Yeah, I mean, well, what do you mean? the right sales team i think it could have been yes with what we were doing back then with in tandem with all of the events that were distributed on our own platform and brought like it made sense and i think under other circumstance you know bc maybe if you if you wanted to stick around here and not go to cbs full time we could have figured something out you know well i mean to be fair i've been at cbs full time for almost a decade so i thought it transitioned to part time no no
Starting point is 01:35:21 they just cut my salary by 60 percent two years ago but hey i'm back baby i'm back i'm back All right. Thank you so much. Thank you for your time, Snoddy. Let's get back into this. Thank you. The thing is, though, what can we do now? Room Service Diaries? Nailed it. Next transition, live companion podcast during the fight us.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Yep. All right. Shout to Manich's Barber. What was that guy's name? Dion. Neon, Dion. Neon Dion. Neon, Dion. He was a really good dude.
Starting point is 01:35:55 tree, B-Vol. Yeah, of course, that's a big breath, too. Do you show at Gaff's ass crack right there? Look, always said eventually I was going to catch a fade for the way I talk about these, uh, you know, these athletes, but tonight we're really going to catch that fade. Okay. So is it okay if I vape here? Yep.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Okay. All right. Even off is trying to catch a single egg. This is my barber. Dude, this is great. These guy's hair has been looking rough for years, so I figured I tried to hook him up. Didn't Dion give you like a head? they are very professional yeah he gave me yeah he gave me like a swervy line in there
Starting point is 01:36:29 i felt like it was my first time meeting them and i felt like i'm home i'm gonna take a huge dope molytie look look at this plum center says the collapse of showtime and mk was consistent with the increase in talent vaping the more you vape the worst we did yeah that's true on camera for the next like four hours and like be entertaining for you guys so gotta figure it out ash was the backbone shout out to ashley who Yeah, I'm three of Canello Beavall underway. Yeah, the smallest one, please.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Oh my God! What was the UFC main event for this one? Oliveira Gaichi, I want to say. Or it was Izzy Pereira, because we did both of those. No, I don't think it was Izzy Pereira. It was definitely Olivera. Jesus Christ He has a triangle
Starting point is 01:37:28 He lets it go Just the gink she's getting out Yeah Oliver takes the back The choke is in That's it, that's it It's a game over No
Starting point is 01:37:37 Yeah game over Game over Yeah, game over People tell me I have memorable reactions to these kinds of things I suppose that is true Dude our staff was exhausted too Yeah we were all on fumes
Starting point is 01:37:50 At this point Holy shit dix you're probably going to shit real quick right you just stop fucking stop I know it's worth for like 14 hours and you're like dude this shit sucked I think you guys said this show sucks
Starting point is 01:38:10 at least 10 times during that broadcast so I didn't realize people liked it I thought we were floundering I know I thought so too and then I got all these messages after we were over and there were people like that was so fucking great I was like okay all right I love you I love you there's our sound guy Nick he took us to the next level
Starting point is 01:38:27 what's his uh what's his name and real what's his character silky like silky jones right silky jones dude is my office dude you must have driven there that day i did yeah and they gave me a box of uh t-shirts i believe We did get a shit ton of merch, Luke, at all times. Oh, too much. Maybe Jay hangs around MK too much. You know, he's not on our show anymore, but he shows up at the live events.
Starting point is 01:39:02 And I, you know, somebody set up a very small stage in Brooklyn, you know, it was going to be, it was a big deal, to be fair. Is this when you fell off the stage? Yeah, that is. That was definitely Jay's fault. The editing on this with Jay's face is so good. And how about this for an all-star way in lineup? Your boy, BC, El Diamante Rawell. where were you for this other from showbox right me yeah you didn't come to this one
Starting point is 01:39:28 i don't know if i was invited to this one no you were i you had something going on you know where i'm coming from and you know we feel you're great we throw it to the stage to the classy one and then i lean over in my director's chair and i'm you know and i'm i'm going down dude i almost bit it and hit my head i mean i got lucky i kind of caught myself I survived that fall, but afterwards, it's like, did this have to happen? Embarrassment levels are high. This is very reminiscent of my wedding when the first bite of Pente Olavacca stained my white vest and tied. And shirt.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Like, how did this happen, actually? You had pasta on your wedding? Yeah, and it stained my tie vest and shirt. Who catered, Chef Boyardee? No, it was well catered about it. But no, he wanted that. I'm just teasing. Jay was in my ear, but I couldn't get his dad.
Starting point is 01:40:19 attention you know what is his motivation our fear with jay in the beginning was you know if are you really trying to sink this show oh penny start at one day are we back there it's gonna be a good fight if you not tuned in the showtime pay-per-view you trip it so dude matt schneider texts me right away is like jays setting you up like this should be addressed jay jay planted that in real time we turn this in real time we turn this in to a storyline but it was real mind fuck come back and take over I just want everyone to understand if you get a shot below me there's four chairs on the stage not one of them has a single sandbag on it not one of them was tied down I got sandbag
Starting point is 01:41:02 here's him blaming somebody else always and that's the issue we always had with Jay never took responsibility ever did we get footage to see how I stuck that landing all those years have fallen off the ladder they're probably one of the cameras dude I've fallen off ladders cleaning my gutters I believe that I we won the World MMA Awards there was a bit of a hangover period and then a bit of a rethinking about the show and its future and I think that we're on we have begun something of a new path that is I think right on time right on time what is that new path I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about that was it was not like not COVID though
Starting point is 01:41:49 I was, I think I was hungover. Or no, dude, when I fly to Vegas, I have, like, a hangover for 24 hours, even though I didn't drink. We had some equipment upgrades for what we were doing. You can't sleep in hotel rooms. I can't fly without feeling. I wanted to stage a home invasion of my house. You know, I showed them a piece today. Well said.
Starting point is 01:42:14 I was like, look, bitch, here's what's what's going to happen. You're going to shoot my office and not a fucking thing else. Look, is this all true? Yes. You could spend so much time looking at what's next. You know, you can miss what already happened, right? So they came to our house to what? To give us new cameras, new cameras, new something?
Starting point is 01:42:39 It was those backlights for you guys. It was like those blue and red backlights. Yeah, mine broke pretty quickly, yeah. Hey, how are you? Want to come in and see my crib? Yeah, my wife and I got to figure out which pets I'm going to euthanize first. That's not my estate. Dude, my wife and kids were like, do not put me on camera in any form.
Starting point is 01:42:58 I do not want to be a part of this. I don't know what I fuck I just said that. Luke proclaiming that's not his estate. It was a generic image. This is where I have done a lot of really mediocre work. Yeah, this is my office. Molly, smile for the camera. Hi, babe.
Starting point is 01:43:18 The dog is looking at you like, get the fuck out my face. He loves me. So let me just show you a few things and make it about what you will. I mean, come in and take a look around. Where they happen, look right there. As you can see, I have a lot of books. I got a bed for, you know, nights that I work late. These are some other MMA books that I have.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I got a great gift from my wife and kids a couple years ago, the Molly the Dog Pillows. There's books on geopolitics and globalization. Most important. number of my family Frederick Nietzsche the gay science Aristotle's ethics come here come here up Molly I've got more Aristotle readers you know what does it look like when life imitates art and uh you know this is look were you purposely being as nerdy as possible in your break no he told me to walk him through what books I have squirrel pee and then he's asking questions behind the scenes like what's that book what's
Starting point is 01:44:11 this book why do you have that book he's a genius so it sounds like what I'm doing is let me just tell you all my books but he was he was getting me to go through my entire shelf. If you've seen Coco, you know what an alabrija is. I got my toe spacers. This was me. You got my toe spacers. Who the fuck is that? Yo, what happened here? I never asked you this.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Who came to the door? Some dude trying to sell me some shit. One keyboard for everything. Jesus, hold on. I got to answer that. I have the wrong address, sir. Very much so. Okay. Yeah, what the fuck was that? um he has been a source of inspiration for i said that shit i i was pissed i think his office
Starting point is 01:44:52 probably looked like a mix between peewee's playhouse and all of the plans the riddler ever put on the wall to kill people there's no heat in here there's no air conditioning it's i have finally upgraded i've got heat and air conditioning finally now to big e of of WWE fame and the big he's the man took care of me too 93 94 most improved player okay baby I'm right not very camera shot though that's Zoe by the way factory made factory tough and Bronstetter's got me all over this jazz stuff it's it's fantastic Make a look easy
Starting point is 01:45:42 Luke I love easy Luke I love this moment Shout out to your wife being willing What you doing? I'm going to be all of your mind I'm right here Okay so my name is Luce Savorque is Thomas and Luke Thomas significant other slash why.
Starting point is 01:46:14 I love combat sports Colombian, so I grew up around a lot of boxing. Then I actually start training Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Yeah, she rolled with Mata Furry, Liz. That's right. Oh, my God. It's got a while ago. Obviously with Brian, they have great chemistry, as I mentioned before. He has a lot of fun doing this show.
Starting point is 01:46:34 He put his soul and everything. You can tell. My wife is great. bro she's the best that's a really touching moment yeah my wife is fucking great bro also not my estate yeah it's a pretty quiet neighborhood here that's why i parked my bright orange car obnoxious car right outside there's really nothing going on except for all this big lewd doing cool drone shit by the way i told jake i said jake if you make my wife look bad i'll fucking kill you i straight up told him he's like no no no no why he goes i'll make you look bad i'm not gonna make her
Starting point is 01:47:08 look back he did there yeah so now we're leaving my house we're driving 45 minutes to my hometown of Nagatuck and this was pretty awesome that that we were willing that we were able to do this that Jake was willing Snyder in the budget because uh we we really went back to the factories Luke I mean it's it's back to the back to the Roots. Nogata, Connecticut. Factory town in the house. It feels good.
Starting point is 01:47:35 God, what a dump. It is. It is. Grandmother grew up in that apartment up there. That's where I went to elementary school. Central I asked, baby. The highway's right there.
Starting point is 01:47:44 It's great. That sounds like I grew up in. I grew up right there. No central A.C. Uh, no. No, not at all. What are you kidding me? No.
Starting point is 01:47:56 You know, I don't come from the cute town. You may not connect with where I'm from, but that's how I got here. That neighborhood is called Little Portugal. This is where it all goes down. Not only did I spend a lot of time here at the town Green, my first apartment was the third floor of that white building
Starting point is 01:48:12 over there. Dude. Five years, maybe. I mean, your life was ram, shackle, and shitty. One day, I want to go on the Nagasaki High School Wikipedia page under notable alumni. Dude, Mike's Pizza Palace, it just closed after like
Starting point is 01:48:26 40 years, the best pizza. It closed? Yeah, they might, they're trying to open but their lease ran out and they were forced to move 40 years the more you order from this place the better the pizza would get true fact dude it's old-school Greek pizza like they'll give you a crappy pizza if they don't know you but if they know you they'll like really dial it on look that's how it should they made uh mounds at almond joy in this town they've they've vulcanized rubber for the first time
Starting point is 01:48:55 charles good year in this town uh but you know most of them have been torn down we're down we're down to we're down to like one or two left so you know this is where the final scene of war of the world starting Tom Cruise was filmed about the dude when Tom Cruise came to our town for a week it was like the biggest thing that ever happened in the town I could see that shortly after the movie was filmed but you know this is kind of where it all went down down here this is the hard scrabble in effect right here um you know I may be from Connecticut but it's not the side of the tracks that you think oh and they got the railroad shot active train tracks well you what you've never seen this look maybe
Starting point is 01:49:41 i didn't get this far they didn't stand by me here but they probably could have uh i might have turned it off after my wife got off screen left of industry you know we climbed this fence we went to these really gnarly looking areas it was big blue me and jake You know, this Tom Cruise stood right here when he ran away from those aliens at Spoiler alert at the end, you know? There were big, big buildings, smokestacks, and factories that, you know, represented where I'm from. Pete is gay. Yeah, I actually forced Jake to shoot that.
Starting point is 01:50:25 It wasn't part of his plan. Yeah, that's the highway. That's Route 8 right there. you can take that's the poop plant right there that's where we were I've been walked on these train tracks for half my life oh god that was a lot I've never been this way you got those hammer toes well yeah cauliflower toes without the boy though oh this job is awesome look what a what a show what a job brother what a job and now look it's time for three margaritas all right you're
Starting point is 01:51:05 ready for it's like everything oh god I thought I've been spared the worst I have to say they didn't make you look too bad in the edit on this part it could have been worse how about put people on the couch for room service diaries and made gold you he looked like someone who shows Snyder hates that one love Marley hat hates some kind of giant land animal had ejaculated all over him how about had Joe Rogan shouting us out you know the morning combat guys luke's been on the podcast before he's got that that dude with him everything's built the bad the fear of the house baby oh that is awesome
Starting point is 01:51:43 look will you share on monday show what joe rogan said to you after that podcast i should at some point because it's kind of silly not to at this point but the problem is if i do it's just going to be like constant you know just negativity surrounding me and i kind of just a little piece in my life yeah let's get let's time for peace and i think it was pretty good i mean it was it was like it was kind of like just using other stupid bits from other docs but true when you don't have storylines in your doc you got it right luke gave us a very concise good interview you gave us what you normally it's gonna work really well because there's a great
Starting point is 01:52:30 story here we went really meadow with we weren't really behind the scenes yeah this one was a little bit more genuine and then Luke conversely is is thriving in the progress that you guys have made as men
Starting point is 01:52:44 that's real talk look at the stupid grin on your face yeah so no one wants to go to medman it's all right if you know That's the weed store. Luke, I really regret with this live show that the crowd couldn't hear the show. Yeah, that's unfortunate.
Starting point is 01:53:07 But to be fair, that's why the live show in London, we kind of like, it was redemption in a lot of. Yeah. That one went a lot better. We got to get that doc made because that, that's a mountaintop moment, dude. There's nothing like that London live. I think that might be my mountaintop moment for the show, to be honest with you. Once a year, Luke Thomas, we give back to the fan ceremony. With the live show, Las Vegas International Fight Week.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Also, Rashad was a great third man when we had him on, too. Shouts to Rashad, been nothing but professional and cool and friendly to us, each and every single time. Also, we had a lot of fans that showed up for this. Melissa loves MMA. Who's that fighter, Luke? He showed up to. Joaquin Buckley? Wachim Buckley?
Starting point is 01:53:56 No, no, no. amateur fighter oh christian daguerre christian de garrow thank you very much there's chuck mendenhall there's aaronstetter that was brent brookhouse in the background there too they're bassora they're really terrible okay okay here we go okay can we at least talk to our friends luke i came for the lp state for the bc all right dude that's uh you may be chug and i beat that guy that's right i forgot about that punch drunk p that guy's great we're gonna spit in his wheel other than boxing my God
Starting point is 01:54:32 I got to say your energy has not been amazing for me thank you folks for being out here thank you to the beer it was a challenge Luke
Starting point is 01:54:40 you were uh you got loose and turned forward Dale senior style you know what I mean that was a we did a picture line after this
Starting point is 01:54:51 Docs are great this guy deserves the race that went on forever it was overwhelming but I got sick because I shook so many hands and had to talk to so many people I got super sick just like Trump you had to put bandages over your right hand yeah exactly
Starting point is 01:55:06 anti-hero like sad guy like you this is the narrative you brought it back you showed up today to save not only the doc but also this program right here I mean here we are complimenting me and then afterwards at dinner everyone was little dour
Starting point is 01:55:22 pause pause it pause it true story you probably heard it before we went out to dinner after this Luke still drunk as shit was like I think that went awesome right that was great and then we all one by one had to be like uh Luke it was a debacle that was out of control but that is true
Starting point is 01:55:43 it turned out to be one of the greatest moments and I can't think the people in the crowd enough Luke like they came they couldn't hear the show they waited for an hour afterwards to meet us people came into the line with tears in their eyes They told us what the show meant to them. That one weird dude made the brownies and the Tupperware and gave it to us. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 01:56:01 Yep. Yep. Those were pretty potent, to be fair. I don't know if I had any of those. Yeah. Hit play, please. I was so excited to meet with my fans, bro. I don't get enough fucking Brian Campbell. This doc proves anything.
Starting point is 01:56:13 Oh, Dr. Raj was there, too. We met so many great guys. Remember the other doctor, his wife had the tats? Remember that guy? You know what I mean? I do. I do. I hope we can keep going.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Wow. We really need to finish these, man, because you're right. There is a part of the story that's not really told. Snyder, can you come in one last time? That was recorded. We just haven't paid for the editing. If we can go three box here, please. Yeah, I'm here.
Starting point is 01:56:51 So Snydy, we recorded the entire London trip. including interviewing fans. Jay Piquette was there with his wife, Dawn, Appie was there, all the people we love. We then recorded the final days in the bomb shelter when we were lamenting the end of showtime. We also recorded the first day in the new Metal Arc studio. Will all that footage ever?
Starting point is 01:57:14 Can you green light? Can you find room in the budget? My salary is gone starting today. Can you find room in the budget? Maybe we could take some of that CBS money you're getting and put that in. No, that's my kid's secondary education. But you can reinvest in yourself in some way.
Starting point is 01:57:32 I don't think we have as much footage as you actually think. I don't know if you remember, Matt. We shot a lot of shit. We shot a lot in London. I know we shot a lot in London. We shot some after London. The metal arc stuff, we didn't really shoot that for like dock purposes. That's not as.
Starting point is 01:57:50 The final weekend in the bomb shelter, remember we set up that ladder and I sat up by the ceiling. and gave like a long... Yeah, I did. I did. And then afterwards, I think we had a long talk that the material wasn't really good and we needed to figure out
Starting point is 01:58:01 how we're going to reinvent the docs. I do think that that also happened. All right. Well, thank you for your service, Matt. What Matt is telling us without telling us is that this doc will never see the light of day. Seems that way, yeah. Unless you believe in it.
Starting point is 01:58:14 Do you believe in it? I don't know that I do. I don't know that I do. That was really fun. That was docs, five, six, and seven. that's the journey that's the history of this show and uh i don't i don't want to cry luke i guess we can cry on monday but yeah save your tears for monday i'm so thankful that we we went on this journey together it was a nice it was a great job man that was a real nice thing we had
Starting point is 01:58:40 it was great look thank you for your service uh to this show today and in general uh we can follow your work of course at the main card minute any updates on uh your content that the people need to know before we sing about yeah so in roughly 30 minutes i got gaff versus oscar willis drop in semi-final matchup winter moves on to the final for a hundred dollars so go check it out it's a fun wonderful stuff don't forget folks monday this monday january fifth live and direct 11 a m eastern in metal arc l t and bc for the final time for now look one day mike and the mad dog will get back together we will too all yeah i mean it's actually the way i would say it is it's not your last mk actually i suspect you'll be back on some level but uh it's the last one like together
Starting point is 01:59:21 as the initial foray tandem kind of thing. People are like, why can't you do both? I can't. That's what it is, all right? I'm all in with my company and that's what it is. I'll make the rules, man. That's what it is. Okay, family first, but this family has meant so much for me.
Starting point is 01:59:37 You can follow, like, subscribe. All that, buy our merch, morning combat. Dot shop as well, BC 50% off sale still live until Jan 6. So thank you very much. Luke, any final messages from Columbia? Thank you all for watching these, and we'll see you on Jan 5th. Thank you. This is an IHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.

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