MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Paul Craig Tells Epic Mike Perry Story, Seeks Anthony Smith Fight Next | Morning Kombat RSD

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell sit down with UFC Light Heavyweight Paul Craig. Paul discusses what went wrong in the Johnny Walker fight, who he would like to fight in his next fight and much more. You don't want to miss this episode! (00:00:00) - Intro (00:00:10) - Paul's Nickname (00:01:00) - Volkan Oezdemir Fight (00:02:08) - Johnny Walker Fight (00:03:30) - Pronunciation of Paul Craig (00:04:20) - Sean Connery (00:05:30) - Scotland/UK (00:10:00) - Scotland Slang (00:11:00) - Accents/Impressions (00:12:20) - Light Heavyweight Division (00:14:40) - Anthony Smith (00:18:20) - Fighting Style (00:22:15) - Jon Jones (00:26:40) - Getting into MMA (00:32:30) - Figuring out his toughness (00:34:20) - Best Part of Fighting (00:35:00) - Golf/MISC (00:40:00) - Sock Wrestling (00:41:30) - Why He Paints his Face/Mike Perry (00:46:50) - Friends in the UFC (00:52:20) - Future after fighting (00:53:40) - MMA Media/Social Media (00:59:00) - Onlyfans (01:00:00) - Music (01:08:30) - Next Fight Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Introducing the new McSpicy from McDonald's. It looks like a regular chicken sandwich, but it's actually a spicy chicken sandwich. McSpicy. Consider yourself warned. Limited time only. At participating McDonald's in Canada. You hear that? Ugh. Paid.

And... done. That's the sound of bills being paid on time. But with the BMO Eclipse Rise Visa Card, paying your bills could sound like this. Yes! Earn rewards for paying your bill in full and on time each month. Rise to rewards with the BMO Eclipse Rise Visa Card. Terms and conditions apply.

Hey guys, it's Paul Craig here. In London, live in Room Service Diaries. I wanted to see what you guys have got to say. You know that top bloke Arnold Allen? Aye, he's actually a good guy. Good kid, he said nice things about you. Morning Combat's one of these things that's like a, it's been getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Now it's like probably the best MMA combat sports podcast.

Were you on Mushrooms as well? So an interview in the hotel room. It's a bit weird that the guys asked me to come into their room and I'm half expecting to be get on your knees and suck ass. I've seen people complain about sitting in the train going backwards. It doesn't bother me. Let's get down and let's see. I think they've got a few. I think they want to haul me over some coal. So I'm looking forward to seeing that. Let's get down and let's see. I think they've got a few, I think they're wanting Paul Mule with some coal,

so I'm looking forward to seeing that. Let's get going. I don't even need to do a proper intro, I guess, do I? He's already proving that he belongs on this couch. He's already proving he belongs. It's UFC line heavyweight Paul Craig from the great country of Scotland. How are you, Paul?

You bear Jew motherfucker, and that's not anti-Semitic. How do you get away with that nickname I know how do you get away with the first time I heard I'm like well this Jewish man from Scotland I've never seen Jewish men

from Scotland have you seen me with my hair grown so with my hair grown I have it was like a big mane

it's like a proper Jew fro yeah I know so quite a lot of people have messaged me that and been like how are you allowed to use

this name I'm like because it's not really I'm not really offending anybody, am I? And if you think about the film Inglourious Basterds, this guy's a hero. Yeah, he's murdering Nazis.

He's a guy. So I've not fought any Germans yet. And that's really negative, isn't it? But I'll represent when I do. Oh, shit. Star David on the trunks? Oh, we can't because of Venom. Those motherfuckers.

Yeah, that's also a little much. Unless you're allowed the camo. The camo, yes. Just have my shorts with Star of Davids everywhere. Paul, let's get it out of the way. Your last fight didn't go your way. Last two fights, let's kick me when I'm down. Sorry about that. How you feeling?

The Ozedemir decision and then the Johnny Walker finish. The Ozedemir one was competitive though. I was pulling for you, you know? The Walker one just kinda got away from you, huh? So if we go back to the Ozdemir, what happened was I was in a bit of a shitty spot with regards to, I had just moved gym. I was actually trying to do it all on my own.

Being a professional athlete, I can do this all on my own. So all my camp was done in my friend's shed. He's built a purpose gym out his back, which is like Matty. Then we were doing everything in there. ddod yn ei hun. Felly roedd fy nghymddech yn gweithio yn fy ffrind, Shed, sydd wedi adeiladu gym yn ei ôl, sy'n ymwneud â Matty, ac roedden ni'n gwneud popeth yn yno. Roedd gen i rhannau hyfforddiant, yn gweithio gyda phobl yn unig, ond nid fy nghymdeithiwr. Ac nid oedd gen i unrhyw un i ddweud wrthi, stop trying to pull guard, get off your back. Nid oedd yn fy nigh. Ond pan wnes i edrych ar y ffight yn ôl, roedd yna rhai elfennau o'r ffordd y dwi'n meddwl,

mae rhai positifau i'w ddod o hyd i. Fe wnaethoch chi'r ffight trwy'r glwbwyr, fe wnaethoch chi'n cael eich cymryd, ond doeddwch chi ddim yn cael eich cymryd. Nid oedd yna bwynt lle roeddwn i'n meddwl, Paul, rydych chi'n dda o'ch ddebth yma. Yna, rydyn ni'n mynd i Johnny Walker, yn arwain i'r camp ffight. Rwyf wedi dechrau gweithio gyda tîm newydd, rhai o'r lefel uchel yng Nghymru, gyda Stevie Ray, a ffwrddwyd yno, neu ffugiau allan yno, a ffugio am y PFL, miliwn o fwyr.

Yn ogystal, roedd yn y pen draw y flwyddyn diwethaf. Rwyf wedi cael Danny Henry, sy'n ffugwr UFC. Felly mae llawer o bobl yn y gym, athrooedd ymlaen yng Nghymru. Ac yn un peth eto, pan fyddwch chi'n cael eich hynny, mae pawb wedi cael cynllun

i'r ffrind sy'n seilio ymlaen i chi, ei ffwrddwch i'ch wyneb gyda ffist mawr. Ond yn fy ymddyg, And same again, when you get hit with a train, everybody's got a plan until the guy standing in front of you smashes into your face with a big fist. But in my head, I had him beat everywhere. Jiu-Jitsu, I was like, I'm gonna smash that. Striking, I'm gonna beat that as well. Creepy dancing in the prep point, I don't think you can beat that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, gyration of your crotch, you would lose that battle. Nah, definitely, man. So Johnny Walker actually stayed up in Scotland for a brief period of time.

He stayed up in Aberdeen, right up the north of Scotland, and he just shagged his way through Scotland. There must be about 30 kids up there that's his. I'm probably starting rumors, but he did stay up there, and the rumors about the town was he was a bit of a boy. So I take my hat off to him. So I take my hat off to him. Luke's brother-in-law is like that.

He visits, and he just lay in pipe everywhere. That's what happens. So take my half to him. Luke's brother-in-law is like that. He visits and he just God bless him. Just laying pipe everywhere. That's what happens. You've got to respect that. You've got to respect that. You've got to pass on their genes.

Well, I mean, I don't know if I have to respect it as much as I can be jealous of it. All right, if we settled first the two defeats you have, people say that we take

defeats on pronouncing your name just because we're American pieces of shit. When I see your name, I'm like, oh, Paul Craig! I like that guy. And people are like, it's Craig! Have you heard John Anik saying it? Craig!

So actually I said to him, no I was like, you need to roll the R. The Scots roll the R's. The Scots and the Hispanic language. See when it comes to Hispanic it sounds really fancy. French roll their R's as well. Bonjour. It sounds really nice but when Scottish when it comes to, like, Hispanic, it sounds really fancy. French, French roll their R's as well. Like, bonjour. Like, it sounds really nice, but when Scottish do it, it's like, bonjour. It sounds really aggressive.

Like, we're trying to start a fight. So, it's a very guttural language. So, if you'd roll the R, John Anik, I think John Anik, Paul Craig. So, it's Paul Craig. Craig. Craig. No, that's the back of the throat. Aye, aye, aye.

That's like, you need to clear that. You need to get that. I'm not used to having these guys roll their R's. It's like Chewbacca. It's like, rr, that sound. Nah, that's the back of the throat. Aye, aye, aye. That's like, you need to clear that. You need to go. Sorry. Rolling. I'm not used to having things like that. It's like Chewbacca. It's like, rrr, that sound. That's good. Chewbacca is so loyal.

Craig. Craig. So fucking loyal, right? Craig. The question is, the only real big export that Scotland's ever head of, so we've got like fighters, and we've got whiskey and all this kind of stuff, but it's Sean Connery.

He must have a Sean Connery accent. Who, me? Both of you must have a Sean Connery accent. You must have watched James Bond have been like. Well, I definitely Both of you must have a Sean Connery accent. You must have watched James Bond. Well, I definitely saw him in Entrapment with Catherine Zeta. Oh, yeah. She's Welsh, right? She is Welsh.

She's Welsh, yeah. So can I do a Sean Connery? I will tell you, the James Bond Sean Connery was obviously great. Have you seen the movie The Rock? Oh, it's brilliant. It's meant to be like a saying. Oh, fucking hell. What's the line he says?

You're best. You're best. And it's like, I can't remember exactly, but it's like a poem. Winners cry about something, or losers cry about something. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. That's absolutely tremendous. That's a very manly response. Sean is an absolute legend, man.

What is his rep in Scotland? He's a guy, man. He's like Elvis or something, right? He's like Johnny Walker, just spraying. Just plowing. Johnny Walker just plowing. I think as soon as he made a bit of money, he was like, I'm out of here, man. I'm away to Brazil as well.

Scotland's very harsh, we'll say. It's constantly gray. There's a thing called SAD, where it's seasonal onset depression. Oh, yeah. I got I got the Connecticut winters They're killing me because I were pretty much the same. It's like we have like five hours of sunlight at the moment. So You're up in Scotland slightly better down here, but it's like dark by about three o'clock in the afternoon You're like what we gonna do? You might get pissed. What's the best city in Scotland Edinburgh? No, not even close man, it's Glasgow. Listen, you go to, so Edinburgh is your capital city, but it's a very English city when you compare it to Glasgow which is a proper, it's proper, it was the knife crime capital of

Europe. That was knife crime I translated for you. Knife crime capital of Europe. I was just gonna go through and be like, I'll figure it out later. So it's like, for like six years on the trot, we had the most knife crime in the whole of Europe. Like I'm talking like, there's places

that you don't even talk about in Europe, and we still had the best knife crime. Like you guys were like, Albania. I respect that. Albania, right. Albania, what are you? Like war-torn countries in Scotland is like, nah, we fucking represent, man. Albania I respect that Albania Romania like war porn countries in Scotland

it's like nah we fucking represent if somebody's needing stabbed we're your guy so Glasgow's not nice you wouldn't you wouldn't be like

a tourist there in the same year it was named like the city of culture as well as the knife crime capital yeah so like

to get to both of them in the same year that shows it's well wrapped we know that as a badge but nah I love Scotland that's why I've never ever moved love going to America So to get to both of them in the same year as I am. That shows it's well-rounded. We know that as a badge. But no, I love Scotland. That's why I've never, ever moved. Love going to America.

Love all the places I've been. But there's something about people in Scotland. They kind of keep you, they keep you, see if you think you're getting ahead of yourself and you're thinking, I'm a big time. They're like, hoi, I'll still be a fucking pish. That's the same thing Arnold Allen said about Suffolk and Ipswich on the shore.

He's like, they'll never treat me like a celebrity there. He said no one in his hometown cares what he does at all. But listen, it's exactly the same. You're just another guy to them. And Wales is very, very much similar to Scotland. We're a small nation, and we've always been getting battles for England. England have come up so many times to try and battle Scotland and...

And they back down, right? Right. All right, so if I lined up a Welshman, an Irishman, a Scotsman, some bloke from the damn England, you'd be able to just look at them and know? You'd smell them. Is this racial profiling? Is this definitely... I don't think it's racial.

No, no, it's like... You'd smell them. Is this racial profiling? It definitely is racial. No, no, it's like, so for years, you can definitely, speaking wise, you can definitely tell who's English. Like years unknown who's the enemy. It's not. But aye, so you know we're the only country as well, in the same breath, we're the only country that shat themselves in independence, they offered Scotland independence and Scotland voted like 51% and said nah you're alright, we don't need

independence, like we shat it, we shat the bed man so like, we're trying to get the vote again we'll deal with our own misery, it's fine do you just want to be a free country and they're like nah we kinda like being ruled by England, I'm happy with that. We actually shot it.

And it was all through religion. That's why they never chose to go independent through religion. Protestant and Catholic, that's the two main dominant. That's why the UK will never unite under my idea for UK Plus, where we just all are just- By the way, when he calls UK Plus, what he means is also Ireland. Ireland. And I'm like, I don't think the Irish...

No, the Irish don't like being... I don't think any of them likes being part of the England. It's like, the Irish don't want to be part of the UK. Scotland don't want to be. Well, 51% of Scotland want to be part. Like, nah, we're kind of all right. But it's crazy. Like, in Glasgow, especially Glasgow,

like you've heard the old firm, like Rangers and Celtic, soccer teams, they just battle over, it's nothing to do with football, it's to do with what side of the religion you follow. And even though they both ultimately believe the same things, just Protestants are like, we can get married and we're allowed to fuck a wee bit more. Like when the Marines and Navy are talking shit about each other.

You're all part of the same military. You're doing the same shit, man. But are they? They're not. Which side are you on, Rangers or Celtic? I can't tell you. Why? Because the minute I say what side I'm on.

Oh, knife crime. I forgot. Right. So I'm from a little town called Airdrie, and they've got a football team, and they're absolutely pish. My daughter still goes pish. They're absolutely what?

What is that? We need to learn the slang. Teach me some Scottish slang. They pee. Like, pish. We would say pish, like to urinate. So we'd say that's pish. Is that piss?

Are you saying piss right now? Piss, but it's with an S and an H. Pish. Oh, pish. Pish. So you're like, that's fucking pish, man. You're a pish. Is that piss? Are you saying piss right now? Piss, but it's with an S and an H. Pish. Oh, pish. Pish. So you're like, that's fucking pish, man. You're pish. All right.

Total pish. So we like, the other word we like is shite. Shite to shit. Shite, yeah. That's fucking shite. Shite. You must have seen Trainspotting, haven't you? Yes.

It's fucking shite being Scottish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one we know. Another one I've seen, Jared Butler trying to say one because obviously he's fate early. He's Scottish in lineage, but he's now got a nice American accent

and it was Boz. Boz. You're Boz. B-O-Z. So we say it. We're Z. But it's a W and an S. Boz meaning balls.

Boz. Boz meaning balls. Boz. Boz like balls. Your ball sack. That's what it comes from. Because some chick outside was like, are you taking a piss on me? And I'm like, I thought R. Kelly got convicted. What accent was that?

What accent was that? Good, good, good. It's hard for Americans to do a good British accent. It's not very easy. I'm still waiting on my Sean Connery, boys. Sean Connery's very good. Could you do a Sean Connery, please? Can you do it?

I want to hear it. We're going to just go home and fuck the prom queen. That's fucking good. Could you do a Sean Connery, please? Can you do it? I want you to hear it. We're going to just go home and fuck the prom queen. That's fucking good. Hold on. Let me hear your American accent. Say, like, I'm from New York City. So, I'll give you a better one. All right.

How about, I had this watch up your ass for two years. Is that Christopher Walken? It's Christopher Walken, man. I, you know, sometimes, you got to. It's a little Walken? It's Christopher Walken, man. Aye, you know, sometimes you gotta... It's a little Borat. It's a little Borat. Aye!

The only other accent I can do, and the only reason I've done it is because you can't understand Scottish, so it's Arnold Schwarzenegger. And everybody always goes for the...

That's his hero in life. Schwarzenegger's my hero. He's an absolute legend, isn't he? If you get a picture of him, yeah, oh, that's brilliant, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. So my Arnold Schwarzenegger and you'll a picture of him, yeah oh that's brilliant. So my Arnold Schwarzenegger and you'll be like ah it's pish but it's um this oh you got to do it

you know what I'm talking about you grab the titty. Is he committing sex crimes? Hashtag him too. Well did you ever see the picture of his illegitimate son? Yeah. Absolutely, bro. He's a spittin'. I mean, Jimmy looks more like him than the Shrivers look like him. Love it. Yeah. Gotta respect him. Gotta respect him.

All right, let's talk a little MMA these days. Where do you feel like you fit in at 205? I still believe there's definitely a space for me at 205. When you look who's in front of me, we just had the new crown champion in Jamal Hill, who the only loss in his record is myself we look at ankle guys arm just to remind people and they partied with him as i read i did he's an absolute gentleman man and as we were signing posters and really was like the next time the next time you're sitting here paul we mean you're saying these posters and i'm like you're right and then johnny Walker's like, nah, it's not happening. Smash.

So, we were, I know he's like, yeah, he's like, you fucked that one, Paul. So,

I beat him. I beat Ankalayev. Same again, only lost in his record. Dude, nobody beats Ankalayev. Dude, he has two stoppage wins over them.

How about that? One second left, that's like, in the third round, right? Third round, people still remember, people still come up to him,

it's like, oh, that submission. And that was like a really turning point. Like, I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up. Like, I? In the third round, people still remember. People still come up to him and say, oh, that's submission. And that was a really turning point. I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up. I'm a fighter than now, but I still don't actually know what I'm going to do with my adult life. And that was a point.

Oh, you're 35. You're 35 and you came in here on a skateboard. I'm like, I'm Peter Pan. It's time to... I know. I'm clutching on to my youth. I'm clutching on to it. I had a hair transplant as well, man.

I'm just trying. Congratulations. It's not bad, isn't it, man? He could give you tips on the backside. I legit didn't notice. I need some myself. See, I didn't know I was bald. I had no idea I was bald until I watched one of my fights

back and went, was that? Yeah, well. Was that GSP there? It was me. It was proper me. I mean, your hair looked like Pish. Aye, Pish, I like it. Hair looked Pish and shite. So two guys I beat. You've also got Krylov who I beat. He's in the top ten.

You've got, so that's three of the top ten I've beat. The other two guys who beat me in the top ten are Ozdemir and Johnny Walker. So that's five guys that are in front of me who I've fought. The only other people who are there, because I don't really want to be shooting back. Mae gen i 5 o'r rhai sydd ymlaen â mi sydd wedi chwarae. Yr unig unig o'r bobl sydd yno, oherwydd dwi ddim yn hoffi mynd i'w chwarae yn ôl. Felly mae gennych chi ddifrifion hir, mae'n debyg bod Prohaska yn mynd i'w gwrth am bryd, mae Rackage yn mynd i'w gwrth am bryd hefyd. Felly mae gennych chi Anthony Smith, Glover sydd yn y rhan o'r rhanion ar hyn o bryd, a Yann Blasiewicz. Ac mae'r rhai hynny yn y's next in the title because we've got blasiewicz and and khalayev who are wanting to get close to that title now the guy's

anthony smith that's the that's the that's the fight we're looking for that's the path to the top well that's an interesting fight that's a good jiu jitsu clash i know um i've seen him in brazil and i've got nothing but respect for the guy like the guy walks his ass off you know but i watched him hit pads and I know he missed weight in Brazil. He just didn't look like a killer. But then he's probably, he's not in fight camp, all that kind of stuff. There's hope, you can say whatever you want, but that's the fight I wanted. The UFC did hit us up a few weeks ago, or maybe last week, just after the fight, and said, how's's He needs a big name. He lost the Jamal Hill fight that was scheduled because I know like who's he beat like today

I think he beat Jim Crute through dead leg didn't he? He gave him a dead leg and Then I don't know who else he's beaten that top guy. He took a decision over the home invader, which I'm very happy about I know did you see him shitting himself on the podcast bit? So he's on the Bisping podcast and the Postman posts. Yes, did you see this? He proper shits himself. Anthony Smith was doing the podcast from an Airbnb he was renting with Bisping and the mailman just walked into the house to deliver a package and he thought it was an invader and he fucked it up.

He had PTSD from it, obviously. So do you think you... I know, but if you went 1-0 against the an invader and he like fucked up yeah like ptsd so obviously so do you think you so i know but if you went one and oh against the home invader i think that i think that's a lie i think the home invader got the better of him he tried to pull guard the home invader fucked him up so you think that was the home invader like john jones or something probably but um i'm excited to see what john jones you should probably take some pcp before that if i like the home invader didn't see well hold on so we were talking to probably take some PCP before that fight like the home invader did and see. Well, hold on. So we were talking to Arnold Allen and he said something that, he's 29.

So it was just something that was kind of stuck with me. He's like, if I don't get the belt, all of this is for waste. Do you feel like that? I've got it in my head that the belt's there. If you'd asked me before I fought in London against Ozdemir, I was a fighter away from getting the belt. I knew I was. We just came off the Ankalayev and Jan Blasiewicz having the opportunity and then we then had the call out for-

You were unbeaten about seven straight fights. I know. And it's a sport, the highs are high and the lows are low. The thing is this, I would never wanna tell a fighter what space mentally they need to be in to get the best out of themselves. But the thing that I would caution against is that like getting a title yes I mean what's wrong with getting a title as your

goal nothing but dude like between injuries or timing or like a lot of it's just not in your control you can have a very distinguished career and lots of things just not go the way that you had intended or whatever for a long time I had been just fighting guys outside the top 15.

They were just flinging me names, man. I was fighting everybody. I never ever, see if the UFC phoned me up right now and said, listen, Paul, you're fighting, we want you to fight this guy, then I'll accept it. I don't, I get into the business for fighting and I love fighting. There's nothing more exciting than walking out into that crowd. And in Brazil it was hostile as hell. And I love fighting, there's nothing more exciting than walking out into that crowd. And in Brazil, it was hostile as hell.

They were a wild crowd, by the way. There were people hurling abuse at me, even on my way out. Man, I just get my ass handed to me, man. I just get my nose broke. Couple of stitches in my eye. Johnny Walker did the worm. He was spreading his legs over his team, man. They held him on the ground.

I know, I was like- They held his junk up for him. I was like, I gotta tell you, Johnny, congratulations on the win. I'm tired of looking at your cock and balls. Please, please stop. Please stop.

So it says, I'm walking away, they're still abusing me, man. They're still throwing shit. They're still throwing me some shit. Paul, we've got a problem here, okay?

Because I love your fighting game. I thought that was the submission of the year against Cree Love. It was nice. You're knocking on title picture entry, but there's something that tends to happen when you get really big wins. You get your ass kicked first.

Why, Paul? I don't know. I think it's being Scottish. It's like Hulk Hogan. He has to build up. He's got to hold up, yeah. So if you look, before I went on that streak, I ended up with two losses.

I had to lose to Jimmy Crute and it was Alonzo Mennefield on this run. And then I beat Shogun twice. Obviously, a Shogun who probably should have retired not long after my fight and then pushed it like another two years. Oh, God, he just lingered. I'm glad he's came. But I do believe after the two losses, it can only go up. I signed a six-fight deal with the UFC.

There was title stipulations in it and all this kind of stuff. It goes a long way in moving up the rankings. These two fights are just a speed bump, man. I'm getting ready. I'm getting ready to kick some dick, man. But, I mean, is it almost – okay, it's a stupid question. Is it almost part of your strategy to let them unload on you and then you trap them into a submission?

Partly, right, because they open up when they do that. That's part of the, you want to kind of make, I have the feeling that you prefer chaos because you have a way to get somebody out of that quickly. There's chaos and then there's Johnny Walker. Johnny Walker is fucking chaos in a bag. You need chaos with a bit of space. But he was, he's so strong and so powerful at that way.

I know he's like see that punch that's one of the hardest punches I've ever had. I've been knocked out way like flat out in my back but that punch took at least two years half my life. Do that and the best part for him. The best part I'm saying it means in terms of like what made it dramatic also do like your hands wrapped around his leg. I know it was a free shot. It was a it was a slap fight punch, right? You know how they have they have they have to stand there and just take it. No, would you would you take up?

I enjoy being able to read and then things or like it's way with the fact that you're allowed to slap them and then they've got like nine seconds, is it? 90 seconds to come back from... To stand back in the square? They're like, what the fuck? What are you doing, man? This is like... MMA have spent years trying to get their sport legitimized in the US and become this beautiful sport. And then you're pulling this shit? Yeah.

Like, you can get slapped full force in the face and you get 90 seconds, but it's 90 seconds. Better than 10 seconds. Hey, but 2,000 if you appear and 2,000 if you win. Also, can we stop calling them athletes?

I think it's okay. Yeah. I don't think we have to call them athletes anymore. I know, it's wild, but if we go back to the whole getting beat up,

I think you need to, especially in this sport, you need to allow people to do stuff. So, with Ozdemir, I had to lower my handsael pobl i wneud pethau. Felly, gyda Os Demir, roedd yn rhaid i mi lawr fy nghymau. Roedd yn rhaid i mi gael i'w ddod i mewn, oherwydd ei cynllun gweddol oedd hynny'n wych, wrth gwrs. Doedd yn dweud, nid ydych yn ymgysylltu, nid ydych yn cael yn cael yn y graen, a nid ydych yn sefyll yn y rhan i gael yn cael ei ddod i mewn. Ac mae'n gweithio yn dda iawn. Felly roedd yn rhaid i mi roi fy nghymau i gael i mi ddod i mewn i ddod i mewn i

wneud rhywbeth. Mae hynny'n ddiddorol. Yn yr un ffordd, mae Krylov yn ddyn sydd yn ystod y dynion. Mae'n un o'r cwrsau dyfodol yn y ddivisiwn. Rwy'n credu y gallai ei fod yn dyn ar unrhyw blynedd. Ond mae'n mor ddibwysol bod angen i chi ei gael i wneud cwmni. Ac roedd ei cwmni yn ddifrifol yn cymryd sgwrsau. Ac yna dyna sut gallwch chi ddod â'r triwngl. Yn yr un ffordd, mae'r gwen yn ddyn gwirioneddol. Ac os ydych chi'n edrych ar beast and you look at him as a jujitsu practitioner or

a wrestler and a striker, he's so tight and compact that people need to make mistakes. And that's part of the reason the way my jujitsu works so well because they overcommit because they're like, I'm gonna finish this fight. Right. Ask me what? Yeah, let me give him a good one that'll turn it. Yeah. And then they're thinking, what they're thinking about is I'm getting that message from Dana White saying 50 Gs.

My DMs are gonna be so sloppy here. All of a sudden you just catch them. But who'd have thought that any of the guys from Scotland was with a jujitsu in the light heavyweight division? It's absolutely wild, but as we go back to the Anthony Smith thing, I think he's got good jujitsu. I just think it means he's slightly better than his. And I believe my stand up's slightly better than his as well.

How long do you think Jamal's going to hold the title for? And also understand something. When I ask questions like that, it sounds like someone's like, oh, you know, it's going to be a long time or not at all. Dude, the reality is most champions who even become champion hold onto that belt for a very short amount of time. I mean, I don't know the stats, but I would guess most don't even make one title. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, if you take out the outliers like Demetrius or Anderson. You look at the heavyweight division as well.

Like if we know when you're- It's a hot potato. It's pretty much like rock, paper, scissors. Yeah. It's Machida today, Forrest Griffin tomorrow. That's what it's always been outside of John Jones. That's right. John Jones was an absolute phenom in that light heavyweight division. And now he's just easily, I'm gonna go with the bigger boys.

And I do believe he's gonna smash it as well. He is the GOAT, and you can say he's got all the shit that goes along with him being a bit of a wild man, going out partying, running over pregnant women, car crashes, all this kind of shit, taking drugs. He's still the GOAT. Yeah. He's still the GOAT. No, he is. Yeah. For me, anyway.

There's some debate about it, but I would agree. So you think he's gonna beat Cyril Ghosn? I do. Tell me, anyway. There's some debate about it, but I would agree. So you think he's going to beat Cyril Ghosn? I do. Tell me what it looks like. I think Jones beats him everywhere. Striking, wrestling. Really? I genuinely believe that.

Did you ever think that Francis Ngannou would be able to take Cyril Ghosn down? Nope, sure didn't. Actually, he thought that. I'll give him credit. He thought that. Yeah, that and Woodley Till are going to be on my gravestone of things I just got right. He normally gives very poor predictions, but there's been a couple times where he's been like really on the money.

I guess it's like if you fling enough balls, one of them's going to have to stick somewhere. You know what's funny? It wasn't that he just picked Francis. He's like, Francis is going to out wrestle him. And I was like, get out of your fucking mind. There's nobody like, I'm sure that's going to happen. But I believe John Jones is just so creative and especially see when he starts landing shots and if he wants to wrestle I just think he's

Going to do it everywhere I like Ciro Gann I think Ciro Gann Is an absolute stud In that division But I just cannot see Past Jones I think he's too special

Francis is gone But let's say they did fight Who's more dangerous for John? Francis or Ciro? It's got to be Francis right? No I'd say Ciro Because of his overall

Well roundedness and distance management? Yeah, because he's so light in his feet. He moves like a... He's a fucking puma. I know. He's like in, out. Striking definitely is going to be where this fight potentially could be won for Ciro Gann. But I think when it comes to the wrestling, Jones is just going to manhandle him.

Okay, so explain why his wrestling was so poor at the end of his run there at light heavyweight. Against Smith, it looked okay. Against Dominic Reyes, it was not good. And against- Mejeda. Mejeda. Who had two blown knees. I guess you need to, what was driving him?

What was his focus? So you think it was a question of whether or not- So he was fighting not to lose in a way. Look at him against DC. Yeah, he had to go after him. Yeah, right. And there was fire in him. I don't think there was fire in him in the last couple of fights at light heavyweight.

I do believe that. And that's why he's like, he then questions where he should be in this. He's like, right, I don't really want to do this. I'll maybe go to heavyweight. I'll maybe do this. And we've waited, what's it been, about two years? Three. Is it three?

Yeah, he hasn't fought since before the pandemic. So that's what I'm meaning. I think a guy like that, he needs to have focus, he needs to have some sort of fire, he needs to have something that's going to make him get up in the morning and worry about what's going to happen to him. And I think Ciro Gann's the guy to do this. But if you think about Jon Jones in his prime,

when he's just starting folk and he's producing some really good moves like spinning back elbows. The fight against him and Gustafsson, one of the best fights you're ever gonna see. Dude, people don't realize this. I've been covering MMA this long. I distinctly remember when Jon made his UFC debut, not because of Jon. No one knew who Jon was, or at least almost nobody. It was because he was fighting Andre Guzmao. Guzmao had a very good reputation.

The IFL at that time had just folded. Roy Nelson or even Ben Rothwell had fought for their heavyweight title, and they had this weird snake skin belt, but the whole thing folded, and the UFC bought a bunch of those contracts, and a bunch of those guys ended up coming over. And I remember being like, oh, Guzmao's going to make his UFC debut. Okay, this is going to be great. Another player in the UFC light heavyweight division.

And then he lost. I'm like, who's the fucking guy who beat him? Jon Jones. Right. It was Jon. I didn't know, didn't know a thing about him. Then Jones fights Bonner and you know, is just throwing this fucking guy. And you're like, who the fuck is this guy?

Hungry, experienced and wrestling and then just being able to be creative. I think that's what what makes him so good. It sounds like he's one of the fighters you genuinely... I'm standing there with a Jon Jones fucking sign at the wrestling, like, let's go Jon! So who are the guys you like to watch besides Jon? So I didn't actually watch MMA, like, it's a funny story, like, my friend actually took me to a class and I had been calling it UFC Chokes and Rages, it's so embarrassing, like, people are asking me, like,

I was like, I've started going to this class. What is it you're doing? UFC Chokes. I had no idea what the hell it was. That's the most casual way to describe it ever. And I love it. Dude, are you a grandmother? What are you?

I know, like, and this is going back, like, I've only been doing the sport for 11 years. I was in my early 20s. Had just started doing it, hadais gwneud jujitsu. Roeddwn i'n ymdrin â'r UFC, a ddim wedi dysgu un unrhyw gyfnod hyd at ddwy mis. Roeddwn i'n ymdrin â'r UFC, a'n gwybod beth oedd y camur, a'r armbar, oherwydd dwi wedi treulio ddwy mis i ddysgu'r symudau hyn. Ac wedyn, ar gyfer hynny, ddechreuais dysgu. Nid oedd hynny'n wir, roedd yn jujitsu Brazili. Ac wedyn, dechreuais gyddysgu, nid oedd hynny yn wir, roedd yn jiu jitsu Brasidol roeddwn i'n ei wneud, ac yna dechreuais i gyflawni, ac yn y DU,

roedd fy ngwch i mewn, ac yn y maes roedd gen i gyffrediniaeth mawr dros pobl, o ran fy ngwch, felly dechreuais i ddynnu pobl, dechreuais i wneud rhyw fath o bwysleisio, ac yna roedd hynny'n haws hefyd, roeddwn i'n meddwl, mae hyn yn haws iawn, mae'n rhaid i chi ddynnu'r rhain yn y ffwrdd cyn eu bod yn gosod atoch chi, mae hynny'n haws, This is really easy man, you just gotta punch him in the face before they get close to you. That's easy. And then from that, I then started doing full MMA. Okay, but what was your background that made this easy? Were you a bar fighter? What were you? Zeltjoe had never been in a fight in my life.

Just a regular dude? Had never been in a fight in my life. Was good at running away from fights. Had taken so many second prizes as a kid. I had never won a fight as a kid. I think I was 30 and always as a kid. Like, I had never won a fight as a kid. I think I was like 30 and always as a teenager, like, he stands at six feet three inches tall with a losing record.

I was not winning. This is Joe Martinez, by the way. That's pretty good. I thought it was Bruce Buffer. No, no, that was Joe Martinez. It was good impression. It was a little smoother. It was a little smoother.

Maybe that's what I'm going to do myself after I've finished fighting. So I kind of fell into this. So I had been teaching for about up to the point MMA. I was at seven years teaching i started doing the ufc jokes went for doing the ufc jokes at this point in your life is it just a sustained shape is it a hobby it was just my friend had taken this class but like the weirdest thing is like for some reason guys in jiu jitsu all want to take a t-shirt off and roll about sweating all over each other and it just looked really weird. Like I remember looking at my mate and thinking,

is this what you're into? And then they're like, this is called the north-south. And you're like, you know. No, no, the triangle's the best. What you do is you wrap the guy's, you wrap your leg around the guy's face and then you pull his face into your dick. Yeah, you just pull him right on in there.

So a couple of- First thing I do is make him toss it on his self. Harder the better. What you want to do is you want to make sure you've got a wee bit of blood in the pencil, you know what I mean? So you can just whisper it and say, I just love you, baby. That's what BC does at the movie theater when we share popcorn.

You know what I'm saying? The old blood in the pencil trick. The old blood in the pencil trick. So I literally had just started competing and then had just been going up and down the country just fighting because I enjoyed it. So what was your day job at this point? How old were you? I was a teacher. I was a teacher.

I was 23, 24. That's the best story ever. You were an average bloke. You got a decent job. Did you go to university or anything? Nope. So what are you teaching? I was teaching, so I'd been working

for an educational charity. So the educational charity, we'd go into school and we would do more stuff along the lines of like, so kids only want to learn maths, English, all this kind of stuff. It was more the soft core skills like communication, teamwork, team building, all this kind of stuff. Loved my job. It was absolutely brilliant.

Had done that for seven years. And one of my friends went, oh, I'm going to this class. And he'd been explaining it to me. I was like, that sounds actually pretty good. Never watched UFC at this point. Had never even known what it was. And one of the first fighters I had seen was like, in fact, the very first sort of thing I remember was GSP was either injured or he was, for some reason he was in his champ, it was

like Carlos Condit versus... Yeah the interim title, why did Condit fight for the interim title? He fought Diaz for the interim title. Yeah what were the circumstances? I don't even think it was Diaz I seen, it was like... I'm sure if it was five rounds it was super controversial. Condit versus maybe like Hendrix. I think Hendrix was like a guy. That's when I started watching MMA. And I was like, ah, this is all right. And so I've never, ever been a big MMA fan.

Like even now, I'll put on some of the big fights and then I'll be like, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip. Oh, there's something happening there. And then I'll watch the exchanges. Dude, this is a crazy story. You have no background. You're an average dude. Doesn't watch MMA. You're teaching and you start start taking a UFC choke class.

And in a handful of years, you're a UFC title contender. I know. So I got a lot of stick because people are like, he's just a jiu-jitsu guy. He doesn't understand the sport. And I'm still learning the sport. I'm literally still trying to become a better version of you. I still don't know where I fit into the sport with regards to my style. I'm still trying to mix up striking with wrestling.

People are like, I need to work on your striking. I'm like, I know. I'm fucking... Do you think I'm going to be like, ah, striking tonight, I'm not going to do that. I'm actually actively trying to improve. And then I just started getting better and started getting fights. I rattled my way through amateur. I think I was like 6-0, had never been beaten. Rwy'n ceisio gwella'n gwych. Yna, fe ddechreuais i fynd yn well ac yn dechrau cael gweithiau. Roeddwn i wedi rhedeg fy ffordd drwy amadur. Roeddwn i'n meddwl fy mod i'n 6-0, nid oeddwn i wedi cael fy modd.

Roeddwn i'n meddwl fy mod i'n 6-0 pan ddaeth i'r UFC. Dwi'n gallu cofio, oherwydd roedd popeth yn llwyr i un, ond roeddwn i'n ddim wedi cael fy modd pan ddaeth i'r UFC. Roeddwn i wedi rhoi fy ngwyliau i fynd i'r UFC oherwydd roeddwn i'n meddwl, dyna beth y gallwn i wneud. Roeddwn i wedi chwarae am Ricky the Silver, because I was like, I think I could do this. Had fought Ricky De Silva who hadn't been beaten and it was like a last minute fight they'd offered me in Sacramento. Had just rocked up to Sacramento with shorts, t-shirt, had never, didn't know.

First time in California? Didn't know Sacramento was freezing cold. Did not know Sacramento was freezing cold or it was pissing down with rain and I'm rocking up there with a pair of shorts and t-shirt ready to surf. You thought you were going to la and they went in and fought and beat him in the second ground pulled guard and they subbed them because i tried to strike him and i was like this is this is fucking push i'm just going to pull him on top of me and then something we are we are an armbar

triangle set up and uh after that i was like i have so many questions here because you you literally were regular guy who just kind of fucked around and found out. And it turns out you found out you're good at this. But to compete at this level, and you're known for having great resistance. You're known for being tough as shit. You can take a beating and still win the fight. Are you finding out,

and if you didn't have a bar fight or street fight in your life before that, are you finding out in the moment where your ceiling is in terms of that regard because 100 i had no idea how tough it was i had a bigger brother so my brother was 40 now and he used to beat on me man he used to kick my just you two or anybody else no it was just him like so him and his pals used to come around and he used to like glove up and just whoop me give me the beating in my life so i became tough for that that's what i think it was i used to like jump onto the couch and use my legs to defend myself.

Like, like, I'm telling mom. And I think that's where my Jiu Jitsu came from. I like, I genuinely believe that because I was like defending myself from getting absolutely whaled on with my brother. And that's as close as I got to fight. I mean, I had, as a kid, I remember out skateboarding and somebody could run out of party and punched me.

And that was the first time I'd ever taken a proper punch and it felt like my world was going to collide. The first time you take a punch and you realise, oh, that wasn't actually a punch. You're like, I didn't die. I thought my face would break and blood would and it wasn't. And then, as you're saying, as soon as I'm going into fights, it's all new to me. I'm learning and I'm 35 and I believe I've still got, I thought 35 was gonna be my number and I was bound out of the sport.

There's something that keeps you in this sport. It's hard to just say, well look at guys like Glover, look at Shogun, look at Fedor, look at all these guys who are now coming to the end of their careers because it's hard to walk away from a sport. There's just something about- So what's the drug in it for you? At the end of the day, what part of this journey is so addicting that you can't stop?

I hate the camp. Camp's horrible. You put your body through so much. You take so much time away from your family. It only lasts about, let's say, 10 minutes after that fight see when you get your hand raised and you know you beat somebody you know that guy's gave up he's given up like so you're like

the high only lasts 10 minutes but it's basically heroin so I have to stay with it and then you're like and that's why that's why I can't take drugs because I know I'm

see I take one heroin I'm in I'm in 100% man you're looking at train spot and like I know for a fact anything I'm taking I'm in man you hit up a couple of joints man I'm in, I'm in 100%, man. You're looking at Trainspotting, I know for a fact anything I'm taking, I'm in. Man, you hit up a couple of joints, man, I'm in.

But I'm addicted, I'm addicted. So as a kid, I never, didn't drink as a teen, didn't smoke as a teen, never smoked a cigarette in my life because I know 100%, see whatever I'm doing, I'm in. I started doing golf, oh my God. Addicted to it, I cannot stop. Like I'm literally- You and Rob Font, you know he doing, I'm in. I started doing golf. Oh, my God. Addiction. Addicted to it. I cannot stop. You and Rob Font.

You know he's a big golfer. Is he good? He's pretty good, yeah. I'm about six months into my journey, and I've got all the gear. Going to the coast with two watches, one with a GPS, one tracking this. Wow. Holy shit. I know.

That's pretty nerdy, Paul. I'm one of these guys that are in 100%. I track absolutely everything. You should know that the guys who do this in America You would want a fistfight. There's gonna be clear about that. They're the guys you want to whoop. Yeah, they're all insurance agents They're not like you at all or you'd be the odd man out So on Saturday, I was going to play around the Gulf and I wore my golf gear Right and I always say to myself I was like I've never been golf gear

But I had my trousers on. You have to wear a shirt, like a polo shirt, like a neck. Oh, yeah. I can't take a look at myself in the mirror, and I'm like, oh. I was just so disappointed. Like, I actually,

I was like, oh. What have you become? All right, so to close on the transition from teaching to fighting, you said you were teaching soft core things. Did you ever get onto any more hardcore topics with the other female teachers? What the fuck kind of question is that?

Sorry, just, you know. Are you asking if he banged his coworkers? You know, like, I'm trying to tell, like, did he stumble into this alpha lifestyle? Did this UFC choke class form the alpha in him, or was it always there? I think it's, you know, your honor, I think it was, you know, sustained., I think it was, you know, sustained.

Do you think it's a lot? So the question is what you know is, Paul, were you a shagger your whole life? Yes. Okay. Because we have to know as washed old dads, like when we had Uriah Faber on the spot. And we're married as well. And we're like, you know. Do you have a significant other?

No. We're like, yo, Uriah, dude, when you like showed up at the WC and you're like the face of the organization. This literally happened. Dude, your DMs must have been insane. And he's like, dude, I've showed up at the WEC and you're the face of the organization. This literally happened. Dude, your DMs must have been insane. And he's like, dude, I've never had a problem. Yeah. Like, I'm quite a tall guy.

Apart from the broken nose that I've got now, I'm like, I'm laying some papers, you would say, my man. What do the English think about a Scottish accent? They don't care, do they? The Americans love it, but. The Americans love it. What do the English? The Americans love it? They don't care, do they? The Americans love it, but... The Americans love it. What do the English... The Americans love it.

It's just another accent to England. You think about, you can go 30 minutes in either direction of where we are just now, and the accent changes. Doesn't matter, right? It's like, you think about what you're hearing just now in London in comparison to what you hear for Liverpool, or what you hear for Arnold Allen. Like, that's only, there's only a few hours of difference.

I still do a bit of damage in London don't you worry about that but with regards to with regards to American America it's like it's a shotgun yeah yeah yeah

it's just a the women there love it it's just exploding left and right I can't the Scottish accent I feel like

and also like an Australian accent on a dude like look at I don't think the Hemsworth brothers are struggling for any yeah they're probably they would probably be fine with like a New York accent but the Australian one puts them over the top this is interesting for me to watch and I say this with no disrespect but if we if you won some type of like contest where you had

like for six weeks you had a stylist dietitian like nutritionist like you had the full team and they could like give you a full on life makeover, you'd come out looking like Bear June. A shittier version. You'd get the hair dyed black, you'd trim up the beard a little bit, you'd get into a little bit of shape. You could be like my dad.

I'm like a, you know what I'm saying man, you're a good looking guy. You know what I'm saying? You better sew and paper. Notice he didn't say you could be my wingman, all you need is just getting shape. No, you're a married man. You've got shit to do, man.

You've got grown up shit to do. I got grown up shit. I'm rocking a skateboard. I'm disappointing myself. You did bring a skateboard. I'm disappointing myself looking in the mirror because I'm wearing golf gear. I'm clutching you.

I'm Peter Pan. He's still in the game. And he's winning. Do you golf? Do you do a full 18 holes every time? How does that work? No, I'll always do 18 at the weekend and then I'll do a couple of nines during the week.

Okay. So I take one of my friends out and he's like, listen, I'm trying to get into golf. And he's like, I'm pish. And I was like, you can't even be that bad. And he's like, no, I'm pish. He's pish. Are you trying to be like Tiger Woods in that you're not, not that you could be as good as him,

but that you could potentially bang as many porn stars? That's the thing. Like, I don't respect Tiger Woods for his golfer ability. I respect him for getting out of that shit. Like, getting some tail. And still people respect him. His wife's like, they're blaming the wife. Like, you fucked him up.

That's your fault. Tiger's a good guy. Tiger also sitting in wife, like, you fucked him up. That's your fault. Tiger's a good guy. Tiger also sitting in Jupiter, Florida in an $80 million mansion right now. Paul's like, I watched the Tiger documentary. He was the hero of it. To be fair, he was. I was waiting on the bad guy coming. I'm like, who's the bad guy?

Oh, it's the wife. The wife's the bad guy. The bad guy was chlamydia, but that went away. How are the Scottish golf clubs? I know the Ryder Cup's a big deal. It's cold. It's wet. Trump's got a tumbler up there.

He comes up. What's the story? I know he had some dispute with... That's right. It was to do with the place where he was. It was like a nature reserve. That's right. Nah, fuck that.

Fuck the sea turtles. I'm plowing this shit out. I'm trying to make an extra 30 yards on the top nine. But there is golf stuff. I'm right in saying golf was invented in Scotland. I'm sure it's. I'm listening. You ever done the Highland games? I've done sock wrestling.

They do sock wrestling. What is sock wrestling? So it's the. Sounds gay. That's okay. That's all right. What you got to do is take off another man it's the... Sounds gay. That's okay. That's all right. What you've got to do is take off another man's sock

while you're wrestling to dominate him. Oh, wow. So you're both wearing two socks. Yes. One sock each. Or you're wearing a third one on your... Yeah. You're naked.

And it's only... And so the whole idea is you have to stop him from taking off your socks while you're trying to take off his. And then you've got like K-Bartos. Now, I'm not... think you all these weird grappling tournaments you watch like adcc and stuff shout out to henzo gracie former champion by the way despite your takes on people's politics um i will say this luke uh if they if they made sock game part of that

you've been here what was that would you be you'd be in it. Scottish. Yeah, I would be in it. You would be in it. I'd be more willing to watch and potentially take part. You know, I can understand those concepts. Dude, the Highland Games is actually growing popularity in the States. It's probably bigger in the States now, isn't it? They have Highland Games all over the country now. All over.

And that dude, Martin's Lisa. Walked up with my face paint. Dude, the face paint. Did you end up buying some last night? No, we were going to do the gimmick where you were going to paint my face for me. But I'm like, you know, we haven't met. I don't know if that's going to be part of our relationship. Walk me through.

The blue is obviously a Scottish color. You've seen Braveheart. Okay, well, I just don't know how realistic any of that shit is. No, it's absolute bullshit. The guy, like, they came up to Scotland to film it. And there was too many midges, like small mosquitoes that just constantly, absolutely devour you, just bite you. So they had to go to Ireland to film it. Roedd yna ddau o fydgi, fel mosgieti bach sy'n cael eu llwyddo, yn eithaf yn llwyddo. Felly roedd yn rhaid iddyn nhw fynd i'r Eiland i ffilmio'r ffilmio. Felly doedd yn ffilmio llawer o ffilmio yn ysgol.

Nid yw'r stori ei hun yn rhywle yn gosod i'r gwirionedd. Roedd y bwrdd yn cael ei chwarae ar ffrind, roedd yn cael ei enwi ar y ffrind Sir Llan, lle roedd y castell Stirling yn cael ei gynnal gan y Sgwotisg. Roedd Ynglyn wedi dod i fynd i geisiofordd i ffwrdd â'r Sgolion. Roedd y Sgolion yn dweud, wyt ti'n croesawu'r ffordd a'r rhai yn ffrwng ar y llwybr. Beth maen nhw wedi gwneud oedd eu gwneud yw gwneud llawer o bobl yn croesawu'r ffordd,

yn ysgafnio'r ffordd ac wedyn yn llwthio pawb. Nid yn ffrwng yn dda iawn. Felly, mae'r stori o Braveheart ddim hyd yn oed yn agored. Ond mae'r stori o'r warfaen yn wych. Roeddwn i'n cymryd y ffrwng cyntaf yn Sae Cymru ac fe wnes i gyfarfod gyda chyfrif. Roeddwn i'n gwneud y jog ac fe wnes i gyfarfod gyfrif. But the story of the war pain is brilliant. I had first fight in Sacramento and I met a guy, I was in doing a jog and I met a guy, the most intense motherfucker you're ever gonna meet, Mike Perry.

Dude, Mike Perry. Oh my God, man. He was training with his- You know he's 2% black? Absolutely, yes, we've all seen that. Like that video where he's like, back off! And you're like, whoa! Shit.

So he's in the gym and he's like, back off! And you're like, whoa! Shit. So he's in the gym. And he's there with, at the time, it was his girlfriend, the blonde-haired girl. And he was sparring with her. And I'm on the treadmill watching this guy. And I'm thinking, this guy's super intense. And he ain't pulling no punches against this chick. And his coach is watching.

So his coach gets his arms folded. He's just watching, just enjoying this battle. Are they wearing gloves and shit i the just battle of the sexies and the men were definitely winning this so it's a sparring match mike perry against a woman wearing gloves yes did you hear him do you hear this since battle of the sexes and the men were definitely winning like we we definitely had upper hand there i was like i after i gave a clap like yeah there was no billy jean king moment in this the guy was not pulling punches or kicks. Like, she had not done the dishes, and the dinner was not on the table,

and he was kicking. Wow. So I was going in, right? Welcome to misogynist combat. And this is the last time Paul will be on a podcast. So I go back, and I'd never known who this, and I was explaining to my coach at the time. I was like, listen, man, there was a guy in there,

and he was absolutely going to town his missus turns out it was Mike Perry so Mike Perry then starts speaking to me and he was super on time he's like you Scottish and I was like hi and he's like fucking braveheart and I was like hi he's like see if I was you and I was like hi and he's like I'd fucking do the blue paint man and I'd fucking let's go Scotland I looked at my coach and I went that's a fucking brilliant idea. So we went to um. So it never occurred to you just so I'm clear until Mike Perry. Mike Perry. Had the idea. Mike Perry's the guy behind it. Fucking genius Mike Perry. Mike Perry also put his lover as his coach in the corner to also rub his hair and build him up. I think that's brilliant. He's the guy. So I'm trying to find blue paint in Sacramento.

Couldn't find it anywhere so we end up in a Mac, like a Mac counter. Yeah, yeah, MSA, yeah, yeah. So they paint me up with this, they actually make this proper like makeup for me

there and then, paint it onto my face and as I'm walking down, right, I've got my hood up and as I'm getting to the hotel, Mike Perry's in the canteen. No.

Right, he kicks the door open. What is canteen and bar? Like the restaurant will say, right? fel rwy'n dod i'r hotel, mae Mike Perry yn y cantyn. Mae'n cegu'r drws. Beth yw cantyn a bar? Fel y byddai'r restaurant yn ei ddweud. Mae'n gweld fi wrth fynd i lawr. Mae'n cegu'r drws o'r fferm, mae'r alwain yn mynd i ffwrdd. Dwi ddim yn siarad dim ond mae'n cegu'r ffwrdd llawn. Mae'n sgwrnir,

Let's fucking go, Scadling! Dwi'n siarad. Mae pawb yn gwylio'r dyn. Nid oedd yn debyg ei fod yn sef bod yn sefodd ar y drws. Mae'n gweld fi ar draws y bar Like I'm talking Everybody just turns around and looks at this guy because it wasn't even as if he was sitting at the door He's seen me across the bar and boot at the fire door and the alarms are going off and everywhere I'm like cheers Mike. So you've got to remember this is my first experience of the UFC So then I do the face paint. Probably felt great to have all that African support Up in my fan base.

So I, that's why he's so cool. So I do the face, do the weigh ins, the ceremonial, and then I try and go back and wash the paint off. They put setting stuff on this man, it was like pure oil on my face. So my beard was like dyed blue, I had like lip eyeshadow and everything on, I couldn't get it off. I literally spent an hour in there washing my face. I ended up looking like Arrested Development, you know, when he's the blue man.

That's what I looked like. I could not get a shit off my face. And I'm like. Dude, I will tell you the truth about this. I remember the first time I saw like a weigh-in photo of yours. Or maybe I just watched a weigh-in video. And you had the blue face. And I was like, oh, Hollywood must have got something right.

If the Scottish guy actually is a... I had no idea you took art direction from Mike Perry. Did you get in touch with him, too? We'll drop each other a message. I remember I had messaged him something that was like... It was something along the lines of like... It was during lockdown. It was like tag somebody in a knockout pose.

And I was like, Mike like tag somebody in a knockout pose and I was like Mike tag me in a I was like I tagged him and said like like you have to um tag somebody else in a knockout phone he went nah fuck off I ain't doing that shit it was like during lockdown everybody was tagging like show me your knockout picture and he's like nah fuck off man I ain't doing that gotta respect that who else are you friendly with in UFC? Outside of your weight class, obviously. Michael Bisping, I like Michael Bisping. I've got a lot of time for him. I kind of keep myself to myself. Tom Aspinall I like.

Whoever's been out for a beer. Bruce Buffer, he was cool to have a beer with. He's a gentleman, man. We were in Australia and he just kicks in when it in Australia, and he just kicks in with his actual, because he'll talk normally, and he'll be like, yeah, how's it going, pal? And somebody had insulted him by saying, oh, I heard you were practicing in your room,

and he was like, I never practice. And she went, no, no, I definitely heard you were practicing, and he was like, I never practice. And then he went, it just comes from here, and he just goes, Arden! I shit you not, man, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and I was like oh my god

that's amazing like how do you know you can do that like how do you know you can just pull that shit out your ass and you can just drop that kind of

fucking spine tingling stuff I think it gets you laid too I think it does but with regards to fighters I don't really have loads of contact with him

like yeah he's not into the fucking he doesn't watch fights. He's just living his life. He's just golfing. He's skateboarding. Everybody was like, how cool was it to stand across the cage from Shogun? And I was like, I had no idea who he was.

I don't know. I'd never seen Pride. I'd never seen whatever he came from. I just know him as a guy. I'm like, guy? That was kind of cool. That old guy, Mauricio. Yeah, yeah. All right. I just know him as a guy. I'm like, guy? That was kind of cool. That old guy, Mauricio.

Yeah, yeah. All right, so this is eye opening in many ways, OK? All right. So when it was the best scene, people asked me about the sport. Like, oh, where were you when you seen this fight? And I was like, can't remember it. Yeah, at the grocery store. Was it a big fight?

Was it a good one? Yeah. But I do remember fights. Like, I remember one of the most disappointing things I've ever been. And I know it's like an amazing thing. Yn y storfa ysgog. Oedd e'n ffut mawr? Oedd e'n dda? Ie. Ond rwy'n cofio ffutau, rwy'n cofio un o'r pethau mwyaf anodd rwy'n gweld, ac rwy'n gwybod ei fod yn beth anhygoel. Rwy'n cofio'r holl hyn gyda Conor McGregor, fel, oh, rwy'n mynd i edrych ar un o'i ffutau, roedd e'r tro cyntaf rwy'n edrych ar un o'i ffutau live, ac roedd e'n ymwneud â Jose Aldo, ac rwy'n meddwl, mae'n ffut bwysig, rwy'n mynd i edrych ar hyn, ac mae'n gwneud i mi ffutio'r ffut yn ddwy secynd, ac roeddwn i'n meddwl, seconds and I was like the fuck's this? The fight's over.

Aye? Yeah. Yeah, do you know? He doesn't get 90 seconds. I've got a buzz. I'm buzzed. And now I've got to go to bed because you fucked up, McGregor. But I've never ever, just never ever had to see watching fights.

It just bored me. All right. I get into sometimes, I get criticized for this by my co-host, the Instagram lives of fighters. and then inevitably they cross paths, they become power couples, you know what I mean? And we are ranking our power couples, and Luke's like, I don't want to talk about this at all. He likes to be horny.

I don't. I don't think it's horny. I think it's just there's a reality TV side of covering this as well, that you can embrace or not. If there's a horny jail, you'd be in it. If you're a single man, Paul Craig, and you have success out there, would you consider dating a popular fighter oh 100 oh shit this is should we save this for patreon leave on only pipes after the only pipes yeah you you would welcome the kind of attention

that comes 100 who we talking we talking mackenzie down i'm asking you who we're talking that's really where we're talking we're talking mackenzie down yeah that's who we're talking, that's really what it is. We've talked Mackenzie down. Yeah. That's who we've talked. You think the Scottish accent would be beneficial for you? I think the Brazilians would love a wee bit of the Scots. I think so. That's why there's so many Scottish names out there. So, Burns. Look, we can play matchmaker.

And I don't want to do this anymore. OK. Yeah. I'm a grown man. I am not an internet dating site. The thing is, I don't mind the conversation, but when we broadcast it, there's only bad ways. Let's be honest, there are some beautiful women in MMA at the moment.

I mean, for a long time, there were some ugly. Let's be honest, Luke. But there are some beautiful women. I will take your word for it. Does your partner watch this? My wife? Yes. No.

It's not that. It's not that I would. Because somebody will clip it and that will just be what they post. Yeah, no, no, no. Because people have tried that and it doesn't really work because my wife will do her due deal. It's not even about that. It's just he loves, he just loves being horny towards female hires. I don't think that's true.

I just feel like it's a little creepy. I respect the history of the women's strawweight division. I mean, I respect the history of it, you know. That's it at the end of the day. Is that what. I respect the history of it. That's it at the end of the day. Is that what it is, the history of it? My friend did tell me

you're the CEO of P.F. Chang's. Holy fucking shit. Is this really happening right now? What the fuck? Wow. So as well as

being horny, you're the CEO of that one? That's what they tell me. Yeah, that's what they tell me. But just regular. I guess Ariel's the wartime one,

but I don't even know what that means either. You don't know what that means me. But just regular. I guess Ariel's the wartime one, but I don't even know what that means either. You don't know what he's saying? It's not what he's doing. Take it away, BC. This is the house you've built. There's a large population of the Morning Combat fan base who aggressively dislike our former colleague, Brendan Shaw.

Yeah. Yep. Let's be honest. It's fucking hilarious. Yeah, some of it is very creative. So you do know who Brian is? No, I'm just me. Because when we were talking before like I had to do a little due diligence you didn't know who he was but I guess you do

He gets me he is an asshole, isn't he? He's an I quite like it. Thank you very much I think he recognizes ultimately I told you the combination of what makes me he knows I could fit in he's a he's a he's a honey the combination of what makes me he knows I could fit in on this. He's a horny man who ticks all my boxes. I mean I'm not coming on to you. Yeah, yeah I wouldn't. So are you super gay? He might be, it's okay though. Yeah, I mean I'm not looking to get triangle checked by you.

Have you ever had a couple, two berry whiskies and seen where it landed? What's the guy's name from White Lotus? Armand? Have you seen White Lotus? No Oh, okay Get him drunk and then fucking Gets pretty close

Yeah, yeah Kicks him back dozen No, but it gets You should see it You should see it I don't want to spoil it for you Maybe in a salad that got flipped upside down Well, we'll toss

You mentioned something that I want to go back to here very quickly Which is You have no idea what you want to do when fighting's over You don't have any idea? No No clubhouse leader? Like I want to go back to here very quickly, which is you have no idea what you want to do when fighting's over. You don't have any idea? No. No clubhouse leader? Like, okay, it could be this way. Yeah, I'll own a gym thing.

See, the whole thing about the gym is those who can't do teach in it. And I just, I don't like people enough. Stop sitting on your aeroplane points and get big savings so you can be somewhere you actually want to be, like on a beach. Right now, you can save up to 25% in AeroPlan points when you book a trip to one of 180-plus Air Canada destinations worldwide. So stop sitting on your next trip and start saving on one. Don't miss out. Your chance to save in points ends February 23rd. Book at AirCanada.com. Conditions apply. We could just end up banging Anyway, I got was like you're gonna up to the you're gonna up to a sweet and there's a bed There is a bed and we're talking about slappers over here. Just the different kind different kind

Did you see the nice elevated bathtub in there as well? Oh, I missed that Yeah, so they had an idea where you and I would sit in the bathtub to do this interview We can call this face back you forth angrily at what the show has become. I like the comedic element. He has a creation tag with a back? All right. Okay. Listen, I'm just tasting the wool.

Paul, what is your relationship? Paul, here's the thing. It's not that we necessarily mind it. We just don't want to. What's the word I'm looking for? We don't want to get fired. That's it. Paul, what is your relationship with MMA media these days in general?

We love chatting with you here. It's great. But like, do you think it's bullshit? Do you use it as a weapon sometimes to get certain ideas across? See, I've never ever been a guy that goes out there and be like, oh, I'm going to beat this guy. I never ever use it because I just think it's bullshit, man. I think like there's so many, there's so many podcasts out there. There's so many media companies out there

that are just fucking bullshit man and they're like all of our competition he's talking about pretty much man let's be honest there's people in the sport or in the media that are fucking just trying to make a buck for the guys and they'll get on the platform

with the intent of like oh I'm going to get some views it's bullshit man that is the business though ffyrdd o bobl a fydd yn gweithio ar y platfform gyda'r dymun o'r ffordd, oh, rwy'n mynd i gael rhai sylwadau. Ac mae'n bwysig, mae hynny'n ymwneud â'r busnes. Dwi'n deall hynny hefyd ac dwi ddim yn gwneud llawer o fyddiad a dyna pam dwi ddechreuodd gweithio gyda tîm newydd o reoli a maen nhw'n dweud, mae'n rhaid i chi paradigm. So I'm like, I know I need to do it, but I just can't be fucked out of it. That's the bottom line is, I can't be bothered. I just can't be bothered with people telling me what you're doing wrong is, you should be slipping that jab and coming across with a cross and like, go fuck yourself man. I'm the fighter, you're the guy that's sitting

in the... You're the keyboard warrior, mother effer. And then there's times where like, I remember after the Ankalaya fight, I took loads of abuse for Russians, and I remember getting into an argument with a Russian using Google Translate. It was fucking hilarious. And I'd done this for, honestly, about three days.

And then he kept messing me, and I kept messing him, and I was in. Was his name Ramzan by any chance? I've no idea what his name was. I could probably find it. So after the fight, I then was, I could probably find it. So, after the fight, I then was scrolling through my social media, because I'd just beat him and you know, it just filled up with loads of shiny messages.

I'm like, nah, I'm finding this guy. This is the guy I want. This is the guy I'm finding. I'm fucking finding him. So I can message him back. Google translate fucking sent it over to him and he blocked me, bastard. I spent, honestly, I spent, I'm not a word won't lie, I had just won my fight, had my 10 minutes of glory, and then for the next 45 minutes I was like, fuck it, motherfucker, I'm gonna

find you, I'm gonna, oh. I was up here, and the guy had blocked me, I was like, fucking bastard. So I never got my end result to abuse this guy. He didn't get the big payoff, Luke, because that guy was one of you, just block, block, block. Do you do the old blocking? I used to do it more, I do it less now, but I've made this point a big payoff, Luke, because that guy was one of you. Just block, block, block. Do you do the old blocking? I used to do it more. I do it less now.

But I've made this point a couple times. The basic idea for me is that there's a real question about people think that if you block, you don't want feedback or criticism. And the reality is you could block almost everyone. You're still going to get it. We're the first time in human history where you can hear tons of different voices all at once and the question is how much of that do you have to get before it becomes productive to unproductive and that's going to be different for everyone but the idea that i have to give audience to all of them seems obviously fucking insane because this motto in life that goes like this soak my fucking dick yes all of you can blow me and I'll let you know.

I mean, I curate my feed. I don't know why people, people make curation out to be some weakness. And I'm like, dude, why don't you want to have, I want to have better information coming at me.

I want feedback that I can trust. I want, you know, I don't want to give oxygen to both noise as well as something that's otherwise unproductive. And you follow a lot of BBLs on Instagram,

so you're taking in exactly what you're looking for. No, it's not on Instagram. It's not on Instagram. What's a BBL? A big booty Latina. Oh. Is that your temple?

That's my weakness. Just Instagram feeds just nothing. Not so much that, I just mean in real life. That's my weakness. Are you the guy just nothing. Not so much that, I just mean in real life. That's my weakness. Are you the guy that's constantly walking about, just creeping? No, I'm slick now, but- Up to your game.

So my wife is also Latina as well, so I married her. That could have been disastrous for you. It worked out well, yeah. But see, with regards to the fans, I totally get what you mean, but seeing the same breath, you as a sports fan, you get to, you pay to watch these sports, you buy the t-shirts, all that kind of shit. In some aspects I believe that people have the right to not fucking abuse you but have

their... Oh yes. Because if, for me it would be soccer, if somebody misses a penalty, and it's like, what are you going to do? You're going to go to social media and be like, me personally in all bits. But dude, like fighters, I've said this before, like Kayla Harrison one time told me something. This was early in her career, early pro career. She obviously left judo and went into MMA.

And she said, I have a Google alert so that anytime my name is mentioned at the end of the day, Google scours it and then sends me an email. And I look at it and I'm like, why the fuck would you do that? So to your point, it's one thing to say you should have a right to say something 100%. The question is what you decide to open your door to and invite inside. Some discretion about that I feel like is actually better for you than it is to do the opposite. So that's my view. He seems to think it's something different, but he's also got a fraction of the followers that I have, so it doesn't deal the same.

Wow, you see, he just took his pipe out right there. He's just fucking... He's trying to do that to me. Patting home runs over here? Speaking of... Mere numbers. Speaking of only pipes, it's become a phenomenon in the female MMA game to sign up for for some of these weird you know personal what i call weird this is my opinion websites where you connect that with your fans on a much deeper and financially uh positive way i don't know that that's really that's the setup

that's for my only pipes channel but my but uh you know you don't want to do something like that right you don't want to show your ass no i, I'm not going to do social media. Yeah. Never mind having to show people my piece. Yeah. But maybe, who knows? When I finish fighting, maybe I could just become a- Exactly. Like, I didn't know what I was going to do. Aye, aye.

Maybe the call of porn is coming to me. Hey, peace sells, right? But who's buying at the end of the day? You. I've seen OnlyFans is doing weird. There's guys who are doing that. Yeah, but they're not doing anything other than normal. They're doing the inside of their training.

Yeah, it's not training camp. I guess OnlyFans is trying to get away from this sort of CD, just people showing some cooch. And I understand why guys would do it, but I'm just not interested in having people in my life. In terms of what do you recreationally want to buy? In other words, like how much money is important to you? Like all I do is buy 1970s rock and roll records.

Oh. I'm just, I'm addicted. Which are, which are banned? I got many, but you know, I love like Traffic and Blind Faith and Cream and,

you know, Birds and just Jimi Hendrix experience. Basically cool shit, you know. You're a cool guy. Do you play the guitar yourself? I play four chords but I try to stop there. That's all you need man, you need four chords and just sync? Yeah, I sync a lot but then my family... Four chords and a little distortion on the guitar, you're in business.

Yeah, then my family tells me to shut up. You're an acoustic man definitely, yeah? I'm an acoustic man, yeah, yeah. I play a Fender F-150 resonator with, you know, it's got that bluegrass feel to it and you can pick on it a little bit. So I bought myself. I never, ever buy anything. I'm not interested. I like trainers, and I think it comes from a place of being a kid,

not having the best trainers. So as an adult, I've got some disposable income. I'm like, I'm going to buy trainers. So trainers are sneakers. I'm trying to get the full angle here. Sneakers. So I like Jordans. That's where I'll spend my money

because Tom Aspinall won the first time in London I bought a pair of Travis Scott Jordans and they're like I love them they're F man

so like I just like how they look different are you anal about the maintenance of these no I think they should be worn yeah

I think they should be worn the people who like buy Jordans and I'm not talking like collector's item Jordans, but regular ass Jordans. And then just store them. And then just store them.

It's like, dude, just fucking watch me. These will be worth at least an extra 10 pounds. But I bought a, so one of the things I bought was, have you seen the electroacoustic fenders? And it's a thin body, but it's an actual acoustic. I got one of them. Oh, shit. That must sound good.

It's beautiful, man. What kind of music do you like? Yeah man what kind of music do you like? I love music music's like I like quite a lot of indie music but since I got older it's hard to sing indie music no wait indie music you said? yeah like indie rock like okay do you have any like favorite bands? so my favorite band of Scottish they're Biffy Clyro you should check them out say that slower Biffy Clyro Biffy and Clydo Biffy so B Say that slower. Biffy Clyro. Biffy and Clyro. Biffy.

So B-I-F-F-Y. Biffy. Biffy. So they're a massive band in the UK. They're my guys. And as a kid, I'm talking like I was like 14, 15 when I started listening to this band. And now as an adult, the drummer like drops me a message and is like, Oh, you fancy a game of golf? That's fucking cool man.

Like having actual conversations with these guys who I grew up listening to and thinking they're absolutely legends. And my band right now, oh what we've been listening to, a guy called Ziggy Alberts I'm sure his name is, I'm sure he's a- Ziggy Alberts.

Yeah, I'm sure he's Australian. I'm not looking at him. He's just, he sounds like, there's another artist I listen to now, Ben Howard, but I go through different, but he's pretty much just a guitar hymn and he sings. And I like that, he's kind of a singer-songwriter rather than distortion and all that kind of stuff. And I like that because I can sing along to it, so I can get the guitar out, blast out a couple of chords, not when the family'sall, gwbl o cwrddau, ac nid pan mae'r teulu yn ymlaen, oherwydd pan roedd y teulu yn ymlaen, fel ystod y nos, roedd fy mab yn ymlaen, ac roedd hi'n dweud

Dad, allwch chi ddim chwarae'r gitar? Iawn, byddaf yn ei roi'n ôl. Beth yw'ch cerddor? Felly, yr oedd y cerddor oedd Knuckles, mae'n band yng Nghymru, mae'n Snuts. Mae'r ho used have been Scottish bands so it was the Snuts Knuckles before that it was a band called We Were Promised Jetpacks We Were Promised Jetpacks

yep they were in Hall Pass the song's in Hall Pass it's like quite a rocky yeah absolutely beautiful song Biffy Claroff walked out to

a band called Daikinis, so very, very Scottish bands. You're in a spot where you can befriend them, and that's the coolest thing ever, man. So I did do jiu-jitsu with one of the bands, the Daikinis, which was kind of cool, man. As I say, I don't get starstruck when I meet fighters like Shogun Hu, that kind of stuff, but I still get kind of like, oh, my God.

I think I told you this, but the only Scottish band that I really know is Runrig. Right, and it's like everybody sings at the end of that. We sing that at the end of parties. The Runrig song? Aye. And then everybody just fucking riots after it. There's bands like Beryl and Sebastian who are brilliant, man, make some beautiful music. How many of the bands in Scotland still sing in, what do you call it, native Scottish?

So, like, you can hear, you can hear, you can hear. So Gaelic's kind of, it's not a dead language when you ask about Wales. They still speak Welsh. But in Scotland, it was outlawed when they were trying to, like. Fucking words. Fucking English, man. So if you've got your own language, then you can speak in code. So they outlawed it.

So it's only a very few places that schools still teach kids Gaelic. So I had like... I was like, I'd love to learn Gaelic. And it's like... So the word is... I'm sure it's like cataw. And it's like... It means... Sounds like a cat. It means dog.'m sure it's like cato, and it's like, it means, sounds like a cat.

It means dog. And then it's like, big is small. And it's like, it's just fucked up. Those dudes in Run Rig, they have a couple songs that are in Gaelic. There's a band called- The first time I heard the songs, I'm like, yo, what? I didn't know they were singing in Gaelic. Because half of it was in English, and the middle, third is like in Gaelic

and then the last half is in English and in the middle half, it's a slow part. I'm like, yo, what the fuck is this fucking guy saying? So yeah, Run,

Make, Find, right? I've got like seven or eight other tracks that I've kind of, I don't have Run, Make, Find before.

I mean, it's, I don't know, it's not the kind of music I ordinarily listen to at all. So what, is your band, what's your guy?

Dude, motherfuckers. Cannibal Corpse, baby. Cannibal Corpse and Dying Fetus,us like my sweet pantera is a big favorite We're mentality metal and but like I'm into the phone into the death metal and then on the rap side like that They make that away. Huh? They make that up. I'm going to see Pantera in September. Well, he's dead I was gonna say it was like you're gonna see he's dead

But that Brown was in the crowd when Don Begdaro got shot at that concert was he you were that it was a damage plan concert Matt Brown watched it. He was in the fucking audience for that. Holy fuck, man, that sucks. You ever heard him tell that story? No. Go on YouTube, there's a video of him telling about it. Like, it's fucking madness.

You follow him? He plays metal riffs on his Instagram page. Is he a metal guy then? He's a metal guy, but he's also like a rock and roll guy. Yeah, hard rock, yeah. See, the band I got into, the reason I started playing guitar was because of Kirk Karmack, man.

Like, I heard that guy play the guitar from Metallica and I was like... From Metallica, yeah. He's alright. This guy's fucking good. You ever heard this song, it's a badass metal song called Face the Pain by Stem? Yeah, get fucked. Have I heard it? Do you like it?

Fuck no, I don't like that song! See, when I hear that, I just think of guys rotting the tap out and fucking... No, no, no, death Metal is very different from Nu Metal. So there's a band, is it... I've seen them. They were supporting a band. And it was... I'm sure it was Death Metal...

Fuck. It's getting punched in the head for a living. Was this in Brazil? No, it was in the UK. What the fuck were the band called? I do know Death Metal, like Rammstein and that. No? No, that's not quite the same thing either. You're into Power Man 5000 and that like fucking let the bodies hit the floor? That's Death Metal.

Death Metal is... Murder Dogs? Who? Murder Dogs? Mother Dogs? Murder? Mortar Dogs? They might be, I don't know.

Shit Dogs, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Shit dogs. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. They might be. But like, you know, Cannibal Corpse is the famous one, but there's a million of them. But those are...

I just saw them in concert for the second time, and that was... Fuck, man. It was mutants in that audience. That sounds very dark. I mean, they were fucking mutants in that audience. Melissa?

Garbage Pail Kids. Let's just be honest about that. In that audience. Garbage Pail Kids. Well, I I gotta tell you Paul it's been great to have you up here it's been a pleasure

Paul you could be a star if you cared more about social media I'm not saying you should because it makes you stupid inside but I just want to point out

you and Arnold Allen had your pants cuffed is that a UK thing it's a UK thing it gets wet yeah don't want your

trousers to get dirty yeah but no I know I've got opportunities when I leave the sport but I don't think It's a UK thing, it gets wet. Yeah. Don't want your trousers to get dirty. Yeah, yeah. But no, I know I've got opportunities when I leave the sport, but I don't think it's gonna be in the world of fighting. I can't see myself coaching, I don't like people enough. You could just get into acting if you want. You tend to fuck around and fall into things. I know, that's pretty much it.

Who knows? You'll figure it out when you're ready to figure it out. When do you think You might fight next Well as I said The UFC Had to get in touch Saying when was When would Paul be ready

And it was They were The nose is a little crooked I know You're gonna just leave it that way I think so Yeah Dude I talked to

We talked to Sean Brady too He had to get something fixed On the inside So he could breathe But the doctor was like Just fucking leave it Until you're done I know

I could get it fixed But then You're just running the risk They're gonna break it again fixed on the inside so he could breathe. But the doctor was like, just fucking leave it until you're done. I know. I could get it fixed. But then you're just running the risk again. They're going to break it again. I can just kind of hope somebody punches me for this side, square that up. Take a left hook next time. I'll just keep the right hand down. Yeah, yeah.

But aye, so there was rumblings in March the 25th. But I don't think it's going there was rumblings in March the 25th. Okay. But I don't think it's going to happen. Okay. I would take it. So maybe second quarter of the year. Man, I'm ready. I love training.

Like, I don't, when I say I hate fight camps, fight camps are hard, but I enjoy training. I enjoy going into the gym. I enjoy being around like-minded guys. Like, everybody has the same ethos. Like, right, we're getting ready. So if the UFC hit me up as soon as they want, man, I'm ready. I just enjoy fighting. I enjoy everything about it.

Your joy, it shows up. We can see it. We can detect it. And that's part of the reason why we wanted to have you here. It was great to sit down with you. Thank you for making time, by the way. Don't be a stranger. By the way.

Thank you for coming all the way. No, it's an absolute pleasure. It's an incredible amount of travel he undertook to come here. So we don't take that for granted. We really appreciate it. No, it's an absolute pleasure. If you an incredible amount of travel he undertook to come here, so we don't take that for granted. We really appreciate it. No, it's an absolute pleasure. If you're in New York, we have a studio there. Come see us there.

Yeah, man, I will. I'll be over there next week. You'll be like, that's fucking Scottish fucking. Shouldn't have invited him. He's in my house. He just stole my wife off me. There he is. The great.

Longer here, could he be Gerald Mearshart? Or is that an insult? Who's that? He's a middleweight. Hamza knocked him out. But he's a good fighter. I'm trying to think. Oh, I know who you're talking about.

No. No. There is a guy people say I look like. Can't remember. I'm telling you, man. I was waiting for you to dunk and be like, James Bond. Yeah, I thought you were going to be like Hugh Jackman. Yeah, or some shit like that.

But you didn't do it. All right. But he is a Scottish fuck, ladies and gentlemen. Paul Craig. Paul Craig. Paul Craig. Craig. There he is. Scottish fuck, ladies and gentlemen. Paul Craig. Paul Craig. Paul Craig. Craig. There he is.

The bear Jew.