MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Perry Stops Rockhold | Alvarez Outlasts Mendes | UFC Vegas 72 recap | Ep 435

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

On Episode 435 of Morning Kombat Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell kick off the show by reacting to Mike Perry's win over Luke Rockhold at BKFC 41. What do we make of Conor McGregor facing off with Perry at Saturday's event? Next up the guys discuss Eddie Alvarez's win over Chad Mendes. What is Chad's combat sports legacy? The guys also react to Song Yadong's win at UFC Vegas 72. As always the close out the show with HYSTS. (00:00:00) - Intro (00:10:40) - Perry Stops Rockhold (00:36:00) - Eddie Alvarez vs. Chad Mendes (00:48:30) - Song Yadong (01:02:30) - Rest of UFC Vegas 72 (01:09:30) - UFC 288 (01:25:30) - DM's from Donks (01:38:00) - HYSTS Morning Kombat is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.     For more Combat Sports coverage subscribe here: youtube.com/MorningKombat   Follow our hosts on Twitter: @BCampbellCBS, @lthomasnews, @MorningKombat    For Morning Kombat gear visit:morning kombat.store   Follow our hosts on Instagram: @BrianCampbell, @lukethomasnews, @MorningKombat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. Hey, it's Mayday, Mayday, Mayday. It's May 1st here in 2023. And it's time to start your Monday with Morning Combat. Hello, everyone.

Welcome to the show. I am merely one half of your hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I joined you from the capital of Los Angeles, right here in Washington, D.C. It's a beautiful day in your nation's capital, by the way. Oh, the sun is out and shining. It's phenomenal. But there's a man to, well, my left, your right of the screen,

goes by many names. He's wearing the world's worst shirt and hat combo ever for a dad, and that's saying something. It's Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell. You know, Luke, I don't run from my dadhood, all right? I live it. I wear it proudly, okay?

These sweatpants have been on all week, Luke, and you can't tell me any different, okay? That's how I live. But finally, you know, happy to be home. We're pumping out some episodes. It's, what day is it? Monday? Man, what a weird combat weekend that I had nothing but fun watching and covering, Luke. So excited to be back.

And look, the thing is, Luke, we can do the serious, like, almost as good as anybody else, right? Mm-hmm. But you know what we can do better than anybody else? Recap Monday morning after BKFC and Mike Perry just stole the combat sports world. Okay, that's what we live for. This is our life. This is our passion. So, yeah, I'm ready for this, Luke, okay?

Did you do anything interesting over the weekend besides uh farting your sweatpants no no this was a rainy connecticut weekend luke just trying to you know hung out with the neighbors just chilling right never ill and just uh yeah recovery luke because i was on the road for a long ass time not that you care but um no no you were on the road a little bit more than me but we were on the road a lot together together even before my vacation. And we don't travel hardly at all the month of May. And I'm like, yeah, thank God. Thank God. I'm a little tired, you know. Yeah, I want to get back in shape.

You know, it's hard to carry that off on the road unless you're a true professional. But, you know, I'm really just like. Yesterday we had to record some extra stuff for UFC 288, which you'll see later in the week. I want to remind folks about that. YouTube.com slash Morning Combat. Not just for today's show, but for all the assets we have coming out.

We have a couple of them coming out. You're talking about resume review, Luke? Is that what you're talking about? So let's set up the reminder for folks. Tomorrow at 11 a.m. So that'll be Tuesday, May 2nd at 11 a.m. Eastern. We're going to release live. You can watch it.

And of course, for posterity's sake as well, the Room Service Diaries with Rashad Evans, which again, I'm going to say one more time watch it and of course and for posterity's sake as well the room service diaries with rashad evans which again i'm going to say one more time is my favorite one i think it's the best one we've done certainly the most interesting one all the credit in the world goes to rashad for making it that way and then secondly i think that afternoon we're going to have the henry cejudo resume review oh i was going to say was bc yesterday my wife was like hey do you want to go to georgetown to the outdoor french market and i was like no no i don't i don't have any desire to do that whatsoever especially because it was raining so she's like all right you can stay here and watch fights i'm gonna go with you know blah blah blah i was like okay sweet have a good one sweet i got some cringe to dig into and

by the way luke that was one of the i you know i exclaimed afterwards that that was probably the best resume review we ever did but i i thoroughly enjoyed going back up and down the suhudo road you know that i forget how much i love this segment because it's a lot of work but when we get to the end of a great one it's sort of like man that was that was real fun i hope one day somebody does a resume review on my broadcasting career luke and does it with the same fine tooth combed care that we have provided henry cejudo here this week yeah well i got news for you that's not gonna happen uh but you know it's fun to do the i agree with you i like up front it's like oh my god i gotta watch like 30 fights and they're all like five rounders you know not in henry's case obviously but there's

been some other ones where like the length of tape was astronomical but once you get through it and then once you do the recording you're like wow man you really learn something in going through that process one more time so that'll be out tomorrow afternoon go check that out uh bc i'm wearing some mk merch i don't think you are i think like the first time ever i am wearing merch and you're not and yeah i got oh but you got the mug yeah yeah always always okay all right very good you can go to morningcombat.story and your order might get filled it might not I honestly don't even know anymore I mean look we're trying to figure out what what you know post RJ looks like in the future of MK Merch but I just want to circle back one second and wish RJ um what was his real last

name Luke I think it was uh Dunklebang. I think that's what it is. That's it. That's it. Got it. All right. Good old Big Ray. I didn't want to sneak past this point and just reiterate, like, he's one of the most valuable people that we've had linked to Morning Combat in its history.

So we wish you well moving forward on your next adventure, RJ. And just remember, bro, you did great shit for us and we appreciate it but luke in terms of getting your merch in the post rj era i don't even know if if we have a merch website anymore but hopefully you know i mean i mean will it end up at your house eventually luke that's the chance you take right yes i mean you know listen you might also get a little descriptor in the mail telling you you're a lord or a whatever for titles in Scotland. I don't even know, but we do have a site, and ostensibly you can purchase merch there. So keep that in mind.

Email the show, morningcombat at gmail.com. That'll be for Wednesday's fan subs or Friday's Dead Wrong. We didn't hardly have, I don't think we did any Dead Wrongs on Friday because they were all like, oh yeah, 305, you know, BC said this instead of that. It doesn't work that way. A lot of people upset that we didn't run the dead wrong of me forgetting when on the BC live chat while you were on vacation,

while I counted down the top 10 debut albums in rock history, Luke, I did forget. Unexplainable. You know, I messed up. Appetite for Destruction by GNR could easily be in the top five of that list. Luke, you want to talk about powerful, kick the doors and changing the current music sphere of the moment that was a life-changing record believe

that okay like I said I'm not even a big GNR guy and I've seen them because of my wife I've seen them in person like three times pre and post Buckethead and uh they're good they are good they're very very good at what they do. That's even more. I think I was going to say there was a little bit like when I was 11, when a lot of stuff was going down and I was kind of more Metallica than I was at the time, GNR. But in review, man, having to go through these shows I've been to, GNR is incredible.

I can't avoid GNR. When I was in like fifth and sixth grade, Luke, I'd come home from school every day I'd go down the basement to play Nintendo and my dad would emerge out of like the woodwork and the walls and go, oh, you're just in time for your daily dose.

And then he'd take Welcome to the Jungle and he'd turn the, he had speakers that were like 5 feet tall and he'd turn it up to 11 and make me endure Welcome to the Jungle at, you know, death-def to the jungle at, you know, death defying volume. That, that,

you know, that changes a young boy, Luke, it really does. My dad could not be more different. And in some ways, good way in some ways bad, but my dad,

like, I don't think he could name a contemporary artist in the last 40 years. I mean, honestly, it probably stops at Elvis for him. My dad waited in line at midnight on a Sunday for Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 to come out. Oh, my God. You know, at Strawberries when it dropped. I've literally had my dad.

I'm not doing a bit. My dad has looked at me before and goes, why would anyone? I swear to God he said this, which, by the way, this would not be true for like an orchestra or a symphony or a play, but we're talking about like modern music acts, right? So he's using it in that context he goes why would anyone want to pay money to go and watch one of these jamokes play live

imagine pay money to see us play live luke in london yeah i know dude the idea of like live concerts to him for like again modern music not like you know not uh not tchaikovsky not beethoven not no mozart or something but in a modern sense it's like it's incomprehensible to him so like when we grew up he was always like we want i want you to be involved in like viennese dancing groups and uh you know let's go learn how to play the clarinet and recorder and it's like dad this is the most uncool shit yeah we're never getting laid ever dad ever ever um do you think he has any vinyl or had it luke is he what is he a big yanni guy he has vine i swear to god he has vine i'm not kidding his vinyl of like all the classical

composers that you could imagine but nothing like not i'm telling you nothing past you know color tv like there's nothing in there at all from that moment of invention on, you know, it's crazy. So like hearing you say that is like, I can't even imagine my dad being like, let's go listen to GNR when you get home from school. What? No, that never happened like ever at all. All right. Neither here nor there. BC, I think that's it. Last thing I want to remind folks, Showtime.com. Get a 30-day free trial

showtime.com if you like it you can keep it if not you can pound sand but it's there for you uh and by the way bellator coming up bc when is the next show box that folks can watch you on uh it's hall of fame weekend i believe it's june 9th or 10th i forgot the exact date but the friday night canistota new york hall of fame weekend next door at Verona New York and of course the casino there uh we're gonna get down so it should be a fun time so Showbox is back baby fun fun fun fun all right well with that in mind let's get this show started because we have a lot to get to and we start BC in a very well unusual place I suppose guys I guess we just have to admit it you can like this or you can hate this. Entirely up to you.

But it does seem like BKFC won the combat sports weekend. And in particular, Mike Perry won the combat sports weekend. Now, we'll talk about Song Yedong and how wrong BC and I were about him. We have plenty of crow to eat. But BC, we start here. Mike Perry beating Luke Rockhold, who I want to be honest, I don't say this in a pejorative way, but he absolutely did quit in the second round. I get it.

38 years old. Your teeth are breaking. You don't want anymore. I don't, I don't, I don't judge him for it. His lip. Dude, did you see his lip had like a exit ramp form in it? Yeah, his lip was getting, the best way to explain it was his lip was torn from his face. It was just a terrible circumstance.

But okay, he wins second round TKO over Luke Rockhold. Even though he revealed, BC, that he is actually a contractual free agent at this point, is Mike Perry the face of BKFC? Yeah, without question he is. Because it's not just the star factor to get people into the building for his showdowns with MVP on pay-per-view or now this one with Luke Rockhold but he seems of any boxer MMA who has made the transition and let's remind ourselves that Perry's one of the rare ones who have done it before the age of 30 even I think he's 30 years old now so it was sort of like

in his still somewhat physical prime he's just just built for this. And it was incredible to have him on Morning Combat last week and talk so deeply about that epiphany he had where he just embraced at the end of the day, this is what I do best. It's okay for me to lean into this and even take on ridiculous challenges like somebody like Luke Rockhold who's competed as high as 205

and looked physically built doing that. He knew what the odds makers knew who shifted Perry from the underdog to when this fight was announced to the betting favorite they knew he could do that get in your chest and win it but I think even bigger than this moment is now for Perry 3-0 in BKFC since leaving UFC and commanding like career changing money in terms of him and his family and his life, is the place BKFC held, not just as you mentioned, in the combat sports world as front page, where we would actually lead today's show with it on a weekend that had a lot of other stuff going on.

But I think more importantly with the... Is that a fever dream? Was I in Delta A, Row A too long? Did Conor McGregor really get in the ring and face off with mike perry like holy shit luke what planet are we on this is a testament to not just mike perry creating that moment by to be fair taking this sport seriously and going after it but bkfc luke love him or hate him and I always say the actual sport itself, I don't love. I've never loved.

It's raw as shit. It's a little bit too, you know, low rent for me. You know what they do better than anybody else right now? Promote. I cannot believe Conor McGregor stepped in the cage, got on the mic, and said, I love this sport. I love the way it's promoted. I love the way the stories are told because that's exactly what they're doing right right now.

It's not just that women's division with all these aggressive sort of made for camera charismatic reality star turns of like Bretton Hart and the others there. In general, BKFC is run as if it's a mid 1980s pro wrestling regional promotion. Literally. It's like at every turn, they do these little things to get you in the building or to get you to tune in, even though, you know, I probably have better things

to do right now than pay for this BKFC pay-per-view. Yet we tune in because they do tell stories and set up matchups perfectly. Luke, on what planet did Luke Rockhold and Mike Perry have any business

meeting in a bare-knuckle circle? Like, none. Yet BKFC pulled that off, won the weekend, and lured freaking Conor McGregor not just into the building, but into the ring. Like, this is madness. And I wish it was linked to a different sport. I wish there were at least gloves involved or the option of it. But BKFC does accomplish what it sets out to do.

Show who is the toughest at the end of the day. Appeal to that side of all of us at Fight Fans that do love a good scrap, right? Whether it's in the schoolyard or in a sense like this. They're doing exactly what they need to do to stand out and get attention. It's just going to be up to us to decide if we're willing to welcome it in. If it looks and smells and sounds like it did Saturday, Luke, I'm going gonna keep letting it in because this is fun right now it's a confluence of things I mean to answer the question that I asked you like is is Mike Perry the face of BKFC even now he is a free agent I absolutely think that he is I think he has elevated himself within that brand

I also think we just have to acknowledge he has elevated that brand and BKFC spends a lot of money we were talking about them on Friday, about how they've kind of taken a certain kind of the market of MMA, not retreads, I think it's disrespectful, but certainly older guys who are typically, although Mike Perry is certainly the opposite of this, but the Luke Rockhold types and some other ones, much older guys, and giving them life.

These guys would have gone to perhaps Bellator or other organizations at 36 and up, 37, 38 years old, and they have them. But it's really more than that. To your point, they do tell stories. I also think it's worth acknowledging, for better or for worse, again, you do get surprising results from them, right?

That keeps the thing interesting. One of the reasons why MMA grew in popularity is, again, it's a network of different reasons, but one of them is you get these, Lorenzo Fertitta once told The Atlantic Magazine, that oh shit moment. You get a lot of oh shit moments with BKFC, whether it's the results of the judging or just how the action looks, guys getting dropped, whatever it may be, it reveals surprising and unusual things.

And Mike Perry has absolutely thrived in that space I mean let's recap here who he's fought you mentioned he was three and oh I mean he started this whole thing against Julian Lane a guy off the ultimate fighter the just well let me bang bro type you know like literally let me bang bro guy and um you kind of thought well if that's where he's gonna peak out well what really is the ceiling on this? But then they had this weird moment where he was able to get the MVP fight. He perseveres, to your point, in outdogging him. Then it recruits Luke Rockhold because, obviously,

they're putting out big paychecks. Guys keep talking about that. And, you know, I don't know if Luke wants to do anything else. We'll see. He says he does. We'll talk about that in a minute. But I'm just pointing out, Mike Perry has lured in other people. Big paychecks have lured in other people. They're making compelling, interesting fights where the results are kind of surprising or weird or interesting or different. And then on top of it, BC, you raised it.

I mean, I don't know this, but I'm obviously assuming that they paid Conor McGregor to show up, do a promotional stunt with them where he faces off with Mike Perry. He's in the crowd drinking, you know, whatever you call it. Like they knew this was going to generate revenue. They knew it was, or at least an eyeball, excuse me. They knew it was going to generate attention. And between Mike Perry winning, Luke Rockhold's face getting demolished, Ben Rothwell having a good night,

Chad Mendez and Eddie Alvarez putting on a pretty competitive, fun fight. And then Conor showing up and it all culminated in this moment where, you know, is it, are we saying BKFC arrived? I don't know if that's exactly the way to put it but they are clearly a different player in this space formidably so and this weekend was a great reminder of what they can accomplish when everything's working together and they do I mean look we all had to ask ourselves like holy shit why is Conor actually willing to go here and maybe long term it's just to show the ufc that i've got options and to help his leveraging or maybe at luke it actually appeals to deep inside who connor is and there's a lot of these fighters i can't tell you how surprised i am at every turn whenever we ask boxers or mma fighters hey would you be willing

to do this i remember even talking to keith thurman that time when we were calling those showtime prelims i'm like keith thurman's a classy boxer right he's like dude I would do that in a heartbeat so it it answers in the fighters especially the ones that are built for it this idea of like you know they're not in this game just for the fame and the money like they they love challenging themselves in gritty ways like this I mean the thing is in terms of of its long-term potential, it is a little bit too violent. That does create the oh shit moments and the fact that you never know who's going to win. When Paulie Malignaggi came in and boxed Artem Lobov, I think we all, even though I feel like Malignaggi got the wrong end on that scorecard, I mean, we thought he was going to dominate,

but this sport has a way of evening the scores, both in terms of gaps of experience, in terms of advantages in other sports. It's just sort of like an organized schoolyard fight. And fighters are buying into this and they like this. And BKFC right now is filling a hole that combat sports, I think, does not have. They can do the crossover Jake Paul thing and there's lanes for that. And Jake Paul does a great job bringing in money and interest in that. But this window of like retired fighter wants to F around. And there's lanes for that. And Jake Paul does a great job bringing in money and interest in that. But this window of like retired fighter wants to F around, like I've said it before, I'll say again, this is what Zufa boxing should be.

There's an opening right now for this. There are many UFC fighters that get to the end, some boxers too, although we saw Mike Alvarado, a former boxing champion, get lit up on this card and hopefully he doesn't fight again. But the whole idea that like they can attract some people who still have gas in the tank still want to compete in like a main event form and get the fun rush again but also especially if you're coming from the ufc want to get paid in most cases more than you've ever made in either your biggest fighter in some cases like combined like really this has a chance for people that you know may have topped

out at a hundred thousand yet we know their name or they fought in a title fight once they can go there and probably make like five six hundred thousand if against the right opponent if promoted right bkfc is filling that hole my only issue with that in terms of their long-term hope of staying around is i don't think the bare knuckle thing sustainable. I don't think there's going to be enough of a market that actually wants to see it. I'd like if there was some BKFC pivot to the idea of, I mean, to call yourself bare-knuckle and then to have the potential of glove fights

is no different than DAZN launching and saying they're going to kill pay-per-view, and now we're back into pay-per-views, like I get what that message says. But if they don't build it, meaning giving fighters a chance to choose one or the other but still get a great platform, get paid. BKFC does not look like they're trying to trap people into contracts.

They want to just make fun events. They could fill a hole right now. Maybe at Zufa, maybe that hole never gets filled with a promotion or organization who's aiming at that. But while there is a market for crossover celebrity influencer fights, I think there's a market for competitive fights between faded old names. It's like a senior league, the one Vitor Belfort's wanted forever. They got that right now in BKFC. So what can they do? They got to keep taking advantage of what they

can pay people compared to what they made in the past and try to keep getting every hot free agent that's coming out because you got Conor McGregor in your ring, hyping up your brand. That's telling you that you just either accidentally or on purpose just took a chunk of that market share. It may not mean monster things financial long term, but it's like, what can you do with that? Luke, if you're David Feldman and company, what can you do with Saturday night? Because nobody expected that Conor and Mike Perry would be jawing and going nose to nose nobody nobody

well david feldman i interviewed him for uh i would say fairly regularly when i had my serious xm show and i always found him to be a much more adept a promoter than he got credit i mean there's a couple of problems though here's here's what i'm thinking about for BKFC's future. They're very good. Like this past weekend was a great reminder. Like, you know, when we talk about people's roster, we almost think of long-term figures. I don't mean it in that sense, but what I'm saying is who do they have under contract right now? Do they have guys that can make interesting fights where they do? They do. I just, the problem is one, I don't know if they're making any money. I know they can make interesting fights with. They do. They do. I just think the problem is, one, I don't know if they're making any money. I know they can generate attention.

I know that they won the weekend. I know that they are delivering, whether you like it or not, a different, reasonably compelling product in terms of, as what I mentioned before, you're getting these oh shit moments, these surprising, unexpected results relative to MMA. But I don't know if they're making any money exactly uh and their their payroll costs appear to be substantial um now there's a question of like feast or famine because you've got guys like luke rockhold and

mike perry who might make a lot and then you got guys at the bottom of the car that probably aren't making very much i wonder about that i also wonder about like related to that like regulation can they get to other places besides Florida? Here they were in Denver, which is better. But there's a lot of Florida shows, a lot of Mississippi shows. These are not strong commissions. Remember, a guy died on their roster doing this. And so better commission oversight is going to be important if they really want to scale this product.

But here's the thing, and I'm so glad you brought it up bc because here is the question are people actually interested in bare knuckle boxing for what it is or are we seeing yet more evidence that what people are really interested in is some kind of old guy outside the ufc fights again mike perry doesn't fall neatly into that category but you know what i'm talking about the mendez and the alvarez and luke ruckold certainly do and it's like they're just watching it because this bare knuckle moment in time is the best way to get some of that in a different way it's not actually a love and growth of bare knuckle boxing it's just bare knuckle boxing is taking that role of let's have old guy fights and so attention has turned that way i don't know the answer to that i'm not saying i have one in fact i do not but i mean to say these are two problems that i've

three really that i think stand out in terms of what their future is up against that's why i think they have to look hard at what their future is and what their brand is and and like you know remember triller had some crazy moments but i thought the things that triller did right was exactly what bkfc is doing matching kind of boxers against mixed martial artists or some combination of that in like these microwave fantasy matchups that's something BKFC has to continue

to capitalize on but it is interesting to debate the long term love or shelf life of the actual sport itself bare knuckle I'm taking the stance and opinion that if they, like, because look, Luke Rockhold, we'll play the video in a second,

but Luke Rockhold put out a video the next day, and one thing he said at the end was, this doesn't mean I'm retiring, I'll be back, you know, I still want to fight, maybe just with gloves on, is I don't think it's going to be for everybody, the bare knuckle part, the part that you can get, you know,

gashed across your face in two punches, and if it goes, you know, really wrong for you. The bare knuckle thing does afford the sport, though, the ability to mix different experience levels and backgrounds and still have a wild fight. It gives you that schoolyard element where it's like, man, that guy might be actually

stronger or better than that guy, but whoever lands first sometimes or whoever comes out and sets a big statement and does something gnarly, fights can turn crazy like that. It's why we fell in love with the original UFC and the no rules and just two guys running into each other. But

it's interesting. How many fighters are really going to want to do that? Is there a pivot here where they would want to or they could open up? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe if you started making competitive boxing matches, it not only would go against what the brand in this sport is supposed to be about but maybe that's at the end of the day not as compelling as a bare knuckle fight between two guys you know because one thing

that was really cool beyond the luke rockhold perry fight was the mendez alvarez fight those are two guys that were championship level in two separate divisions that were never rumored or whispered to fight each other but when it got announced you were like oh yeah dude knowing their personalities their fighting styles like that's cool that's it you know and seeing mcgregor literally ringside living and dying with every punch of two guys he beat in high level moments it's like weird fantasy matchmaking like video game matchmaking so maybe it is the bare knuckle element that allows you that where those guys could be so far away. But Mendes, who is jacked to the freaking gills post career, and I'm sure we're going

to discuss at some point the lack of drug testing in this sport. It seems he just thought, you know, this is what I'm walking around at. Let's just make that fight. You can do ridiculous. I mean, Mike Perry Rockhold was a ridiculous crossroads matchup. You can do that in BKFC maybe more easier because of that bare knuckle element but i do have questions on how far it can go but you make a good point can they continue to bring in the money that can afford taking big chances like they have with page van zandt or whomever you know can they afford that and keep it going but i think this is a monster wake-up

call to endeavor in ufc because this is what all your retired guys that may have a little bit of name value and gas left are considering when their contract is up and if you don't have some type of house to compete against that this is what they want didn't everybody look like they had fun there connor looked like he had a blast everybody that was there even with the violent nature of it looked like they were really enjoying themselves that speaks to something here when we're talking usually about how draconian these contracts are and how you know the money and all that like this is this f around rock like look this is combat rock and jock right now and it's also violent and gnarly yeah you know what

maybe i should shut up maybe the bare knuckle is the thing the only problem is when it goes wrong it could be gross it really can and it can it can tear you and rip you apart but right now they got something what do you do what do you inject into that what do you sprinkle onto that it'll be fun to see down the road um is there any talk or hope of mcgregor here luke or is is it not 2018 and this isn't Mayweather no he's he got paid to show up to bring attention mission accomplished I mean again you're saying he's not getting out of that UFC deal anytime it's got nothing to do with any of that he's just facing off for shits and giggles uh I mean so this was Mike Tyson Bob Sapp all over again basically yeah some I mean that was a little bit more, let's separate these guys, you know,

this thing's going to go haywire, kind of a crazy moment in the middle of Las Vegas. This wasn't exactly that, but I mean, it was obviously paid. I do want to talk real quickly about, like, one of the other things that it really has going against itself, which is if you actually think about the trade-offs, every decision in combat sports is always about the trade-off i've said it before people like we got to make fighting safe there's no such thing as safe

fighting there's safer forms of fighting there's rules you can put in place to reduce some outcomes um and obviously many of those are good but there's no such thing as safe fighting fighting is like smoking the more you do it the worse it's going to be for you period like there's really no way to do it in a healthy way. You mentioned about the drug testing. I'll just be honest and say that's one of the things I just simply do absolutely do not care. And again, I've asked for evidence about how introducing anti-doping makes combat sports safer, and simply it doesn't exist.

There's none to that effect. So putting that argument to the side, the one thing I do think is worth talking about is the bare-knuckle nature of it and what it does to people's faces. Now, here's the interesting part. Eric McGracken, who's an attorney, runs a site called Combat Sports Law, and he pays attention to what studies are out there in the medical world that are related to combat sports that could be useful. It's obviously very preliminary data. We don't have very much at all. But to the extent that we have some there does appear to be some uh studies that have indicated bare knuckle might be better long term for less brain trauma but cause more facial like uh issues and certainly on particular lacerations yeah after his fight yeah after rothwell and copeland fight dude they looked like they had been attacked

by a fucking bear yeah or like in like in horrible, horrible car accidents. Now, I want to be clear about something. One of the real, like we have a video of Luke Rockhold here. Look at his lip being stitched together and his front teeth. The guy looks like he's been doing meth all weekend. And then he got hit by a car or something. This was a guy who was modeling for Polo. Now, it actually raises an interesting debate. For example,

this was something that I remember when MMA was going state to state and various parties were trying to get it legalized. And one thing they said was regulators or various skeptics would say, wow, it looks so brutal. And of course, it does have a degree of brutality. But what we often tried to explain to them was, you know, contrast this with NASCAR, where someone gets into a very serious car accident, they could even die, but you don't actually see any of the gruesome details. In many ways, that would be much worse. There have been deaths in NASCAR, for example, but you're not subject to the grisly nature of it, where in MMA, yes, there of course is some brutality, but you're subject to the grisly nature of it. there are still some other safety aspects that may not be immediately visible

by virtue of how it's in your face. BKFC kind of has a similar thing, BC, where these cuts and bruises and swellings are very much in your face, but there's actually less brain trauma over time. Whether or not that's a better thing or a worse thing, we simply have to debate. But I will tell you, for public image purposes,

a sport that just literally disfigures people so routinely even relative to MMA is going to have an uphill climb convincing the public it's a good thing right and I think it's also going to turn big name fighters away now look there's always the case that somebody like Rockhold looks at on TV and goes oh dude I could do that instantly and you know we heard him hyping himself up in the lead in my size, my length, my elusiveness is going to be too much. And by the way, he looked really good for like the first three, four minutes. And it looked like the size difference in the skill was going to be too much.

But he just got effed up. I mean, like, you know, I even see Malinagy sometimes talking about the extra scars across his eyes that he's got now, you know, from doing this. That's going to turn people away that really ain't about this life. It's going to draw a line in the sand because Mike Perry's showing you that it's not necessarily about, you know, quickness, elusiveness. Sometimes it's about how much are you willing to take? You know, MVP was willing to go into a sixth round in overtime when they were exhausted and it was starting to get a little gnarly in there but uh i i believe i do believe conor mcgregor would enjoy something like this and you know tyson fury the same like they just seem to kind of be wired to want that

and be about that and fury of course comes from a you know a lineage of of supposed bare-knuckle champions but across the board i don't know lu Luke. MMA fighters tend to not have shame in general. They're also willing to go sell themselves to an elite boxer just for the money anyway. Dude, this is right in their wheelhouse post-retirement. Want to still feel tough and dangerous, right? I mean, this is... And then you add the money in. Like, this is really kind of everything most of those guys probably want, to be fair.

There is a chance. Yes, but like in the case of like a Mike perry or ends up being just a great fit you're like wow man this really he elevated himself as i mentioned in this whole enterprise i think a lot of other people have like a view of themselves that's no longer current or real and they're attracted to the money which i understand i i certainly get that but like dude this was a bad fit for Paige Van Zandt it's a bad fit for Luke Rockhold it's a bad fit for a lot of these guys who I think want to try a Chet Mendes wisely bowing out I think that's a good idea he's calling it a day we'll talk about that in a second but you know I I get that they kind of model themselves for what BKFC aspires to

be but the dude like Luke Rockhold be like, I still want to do it. You know, I'm not going to begrudge him that if there's another version of combat sports that's a better fit. I'm glad he's done with this one. This was never, it never made a lot of sense to me to begin with, just stylistically. And then him getting just literally disfigured, not worth it in the end. Not worth it. No, dude, this sport's not worth it.

No, no, not at all. Not even close. you know you do have to think about this if these guys are leaving the ufc on either on their own volition or getting cut there's got to be a part of them that thinks about the pay argument a lot and that you know is this the last era where fighter treatment is so poorly looked at and you know it's the same thing with the nba stars of the 60s and 70s watching the popularity of the sport in the late 80s and early 90s and all the guaranteed money probably you know being bitter and angry but you can't overlook what that career high payday

offers to them when they know they might only have one or two fights left to give to try to like set up the finances for the future that that carrot you know matters and you also get to be like more or less treated good and promoted you know in a positive way in the main event like i think a lot of people i think there's an assembly line of fighters that that will be all about this at the end of the day i mean do you to some degree it's already happened meaning the evolution of the sport when it launched again, legalized in what, 2018 or 2019. It was sort of give you that UFC one feel all over again. We are starting to see strategy and people actually relying more on boxing than brawling at times.

Do you think on this level, though, it it'll just stay being what it is, a gnarly frickin closet fight unless you get guys who are a little bit more mike perry in terms of the state of their career where they're still in the prime-ish years and they're fully invested in it i guess he had a three-five deal obviously um then i think you could get something a little bit different but it really requires not just any product in combat sports cannot survive on old guys alone. You just can't. They can do a lot for you. It can be a bit of a sugar rush. It's not to say there's not some value to it, but it cannot be the core of what you

do. As long as that's in play, then I think they have a bit of an uphill climb. With that in mind, BC, let's talk about the co-main event. All right. So point number two here, topic number two, Eddie Alvarez actually looked, I was a little bit worried about him, even though I thought, you know, for okay bet, I thought he was going to win, and he did. I was a little bit worried about how he was going to look, but in the end, he got the split decision victory over Chad Mendes, dropping him several times, BC.

Would you say, based on this performance, Eddie Alvarez right now is a good fit for BKFC or would it make more sense for him to go back to MMA you know attitude wise right he's a good fit for this you know when he comes out with his own underground king merch and he's you know he looked like he was all geared up in the good ways Luke um yeah you know but at the same time he was getting kind of pieced up by mendes for a while it took that big shot that i think may have broken mendes's eye soccer at least look like it compromised that area to kind of start to turn the fight around and then it became really what peak bare knuckle can be like two warriors that we already knew and love were trading knockdowns i think they got knocked down twice each you know including in the final round where

it was like they went to the scorecards not knowing if there might be a bonus OT round, like this is probably the best it can be. But with that said, Alvarez with that size difference, even with the speed advantage to Mendes, probably should have handled them easier without taking as much Luke. So could he be back here for a payday and be okay? Yeah. But he also is going to get, can be hurt and rocked early, even though he's found many ways to hang into fights in that regard. I still think cashing out in MMA, doing something fun, getting into some type of money fight situation is probably,

I mean, in that level of shape right there, he still seems like overall he's got something to give, but it's going to probably be about who's calling with the most money because you saw that speech from Danaana a couple press conferences ago right where he's like yeah we're not in the business of signing guys like eddie alvarez anymore we're in the business of bringing up guys that you know that are become the next eddie alvarez basically yeah yeah here's what i thought i actually thought he was a pretty good fit for this at this stage i actually thought that the matchmaking here ended up being

as clever as we thought it might be, where I think if you gave Eddie the kind of task that Mike Perry had, where he had to fight someone older, faded, but much bigger, I don't know how well that would have gone for him necessarily. But Chad was a tough competitor. Again, the fight was close in certain ways, but was a little bit undersized. And I think the punching tolerance of Eddie was a little bit better than I thought it would be. Knew his punching power would still be dynamite, and it was. In other words, they handicapped it in just the right ways

while still making it very, very competitive. And when I say handicap, I mean ever so slight, right? Just a little bit to give him the push, and he was able to take advantage of it and win. And a lot of... go ahead, BC. I was, what I should have said in a short sense without talking in circles was that I think Eddie can get himself into a big fight like Perry, which would probably suddenly be this attraction BKFC fight if they wanted to make it.

I just don't think he'd win against somebody his own size is what I'm saying. I think his punches are too wide. I think he can be hurt too easily. So him against Perry would probably be great entertainment and I'd bet on Perry to walk him down and probably stop him but he did look like he's back in great shape and he's got

some level of durability left to get a big fight in any sport that he wants Here's my view on what Eddie should do for whatever this is worth and I watched all of his fights and won I think a lot of MMA fans haven't paid a whole lot of attention other than maybe the Nesta you can fight which didn't go his way but like for example even the gentleman he had his last MMA

fight with in one Ray Yoon Oak you supply like the one he had on Saturday. Yeah. Right? So if, for example, Bellator came to him with a package and was like, we have a vision for you for these kinds of old guy fights. And, you know, listen, he's got to sell out in those fights. And I thought he really brought it in this one. Like, it's not like you can just get a guy, you're going to beat him inside of a round. Like, there's still going to be really, really tough fights.

But he's got to go where a promoter can cater to that, wherever that ends up being. That, for me, is the best slot. Because when you're losing to guys like Rayun Oak, who is a good fighter but not a remarkable one, and that one was very, very competitive the entire way through, Rayun Oak actually winning, obviously, in the end. one and that one was very very competitive the entire way through ray you and oak actually winning obviously in the end um you know if that's the level of guys in mma that are able to hang with you going to just any old mma promotion that's going to give you big dollars but tough opponents what the fuck is the point of that he's 39 years of age bc he doesn't have a whole lot of

check cashing opportunities like what he got on Saturday in the future probably a handful or less certainly so he's got to go where promoter's gonna serve him up something like this right and with like one of his great rivals like Michael Chandler currently unavailable to you know to go make a big fight he probably could make more money against Mike Perry in theory in a BKFC showdown match than anywhere else so maybe that's the direction to go I mean I just said I'd have interest in that I wouldn't run away from that in that regard which is which is wild here we are it's an alternative dude this this shit is like i mean look i want to ask you i want to close on this because we belabored it but do you think ufc responds do you think ufc takes all the wasted money and the infrastructure already built in powerslap and just transitions and creates ufc

pit fight bare knuckle like because if you look at somebody like michael chandler dude he'd be he'd be perfect for this and he'd probably love it right they would want to i would think have an infrastructure to do that before chandler comes to the end of his deal and he goes you know what maybe i will go box mike perry and bare knuckle like just for the fun of it do you think ufc responds in any form? Do you think there, because everyone's like, damn, Dana couldn't have loved seeing Conor in the ring last night. But then Jedi Goodman tweeted out, nah, Dana was probably at the blackjack table with a

22 year old influencer. And I mean, that's probably the truth, Luke. He does live a different life right now, but he's got to be thinking, man, I screwed up on the slap. Give me the bare knuckle now. Give it to me. Here's what I do think is possible like do i really believe that bkfc can take meaningful market share from ufc not a chance in hell not a chance in hell zero none none whatsoever i don't believe that at all right

meaningful market share like guys in their prime who can do numbers and really and make grow your product no not really i don't believe that but what i do think is possible is as long as they have this infrastructure in vegas which everyone's tired of but does exist and they got their own ability to distribute to their own channels ufc fight pass or anybody else and on ufc fight pass by the way you have this network this constellation of regional promotions all doing mma why couldn't you just do Zufa combat sports Zufa boxing you can even keep the name and then you could do those kinds of things either through a a deal through some other promoter Game Bread I know by the way does that on the bare knuckle

side by the way so you could do that or you could have your own in-house one where you give guys options and contracts to do it but remember the only reason why BKFC is an exciting alternative is because they pay more than what they would ordinarily be able to get. If the UFC is just doing the same kinds of contracts where you can do, you know, bare knuckle one day and MMA the next, it doesn't really change things. Plus, I think the UFC would realize we don't want to sign guys to those kinds of deals. We want them to focus exclusively on MMA to get the most out of them while they're under

contract with us. We don't want to dilute the product over time so dude i envision some endeavor run wwe ufc zufa boxing promotion where like you know retired wrestlers can fight retired ufc fighters in a boxing match or bare knuckle or whatever they want like they got to put their shit together and realize that no one gives a damn about this stupid slap bullshit like but yet while you're right it will never affect the market share it is taking people that built their names in your promotion and inserting them like a hot needle into you know a an area where people want to see them fight i mean dude like can you imagine Michael Chandler versus Conor McGregor in a bare knuckle fight one day?

Like, that could happen. Who knows, you know? But UFC's going to want to make sure they have the ownership on that and they are the soft landing. But what do I know, Luke? I don't know shit. All right. Before we call it a day on BKFC, last thing on this.

Chad Mendes losing by split decision to Eddie Alvarez and then retiring. BC calling it a day in his combat sports career. He's got some side businesses that he's already been involved in years in the making. Obviously, he served a two-year USADA suspension related to growth hormone. But what would you say is his combat sports legacy, BC? You know, he was always an elite but lunch pail to me, you know,

top-level performer at Featherweight who came also close. Like, you know, you can't pick the eras you are in and you know, it was Jose Aldo's era and, and, and he fell to him twice, but you know, came oh so close and had a very competitive fight with him. Um, I liked that. He got the Conor McGregor shot, even though that was on short notice in an interim title fight. But he was at that level three times. He's, you know, honest, hardworking fighter, big time power, wrestling base.

Always had a lot of respect for him. Chad Money Mendes. But you're right. I interviewed him ahead of this fight, Luke, he's got like five or six businesses and adding extra on the regular from, you know, hunting and selling all kinds of game jerky to like all this other stuff he's got going on. He seems like the rare guy who's got his head on his shoulder and like made an instant pivot. Maybe the, you know, him and Faber are like, you know, two of those that you look at, you're like, damn, they, they got ahead of this and knew what they were doing.

So, um, you know, I mean, a great, honest, tough title contender was never able to extend his legacy beyond that, but I always had a lot of respect for him. Yeah, I mean, listen, he doesn't have any singular title anywhere that would make you go, wow, or that would put him in a very exalted place relative to some of his peers. But at every stage of his combat sports career, he kind of fell short of the ultimate prize,

but was a high-level competitor the whole way through. Two-time All-American, Division I wrestling, was Pac-10 Wrestler of the Year his senior year. I think regular season only lost one match, right? So, I mean, we're talking about a guy who really excelled at the collegiate level, and then he represented something big in 2008, ultimately 2009, going into MMA and the growth of Little Man MMA. Obviously, Team Alpha Male being the vanguard of that during that era.

He was a big player there. He gave Conor McGregor a tough fight on short notice. As you mentioned, he had a fun little rivalry in the end, ultimately, with Jose Aldo. He was an important competitor in those divisions when he was around. And obviously, he had the USADA suspension. He comes back and looks okay and good even at times in BKFC. not a guy you're i think you're going to remember for any of the ultimate achievements but a guy who gave the ones who did achieve high part of the reason they reached that level is because they beat guys like chad mendez really really really tough not the best but very

very very um high level hard to beat guys and he represented a lot more in what it means to get collegiate wrestlers and then smaller guys in mma from that space yeah no doubt a little quickly uh ben rothville went through hell and won a bkfc heavyweight fight and now appears to be the next heavyweight title challenger against alan belcher of all people into that or not really yeah i mean here's the thing about bkfc like on friday i re-watched the mvp perry fight that fucking shit is brutal man like it's even a little like it's one thing to watch bkfc highlights but then when you watch the full length fights it's like dude this is a lot man like yeah not my favorite not my favorite all right it did have a state fair vibe. And Phil McKagan, you know, a shout-out to our great guy, NFL coach,

he said he was in the arena there in Broomfield, Colorado, and he was like, you know, it felt as ridiculous as it looked on TV, but it was really fun, Luke. And they do have something. I mean, you see the sponsors are like, I mean, they got a lot of mileage out of that Big Buck energy drink, whatever the hell that was. But, dude, the sponsors are like only fans,

like all this apps, you know, like, like Delta nine companies, brands to like lions, not sheep. They have like, like they're aggressively right wing.

They have, they have like, let's go Brandon and fuck Joe Biden shirts. Like the official outfit of January six. Yeah. They had, I mean, dude,

and that ring announcer is an absolute loser too. But yet at the same time, he's like kind of charming. I mean, but like what a carnival, I mean, dude, and that ring announcer is an absolute loser too. But yet at the same time, he's like kind of charming. I mean, but like what a carnival. I mean, that's demolition derby vibes there. Before our fans fully revolt, let's switch things to UFC. Let's switch things to MMA. Let's switch things, BC. We got some crow to eat, my guy.

We got some crow to eat. We really do today. All right. crow to eat my guy we got some crow to eat we really do today all right in your main event at UFC Vegas 72 Song Yedong didn't just beat Ricky Simone he beat the shit out of him I mean he was better the entire time ultimately scoring a fifth round stoppage BC his wrestling looked on point his I thought scrambling was good his boxing was was crisp. His power looked on point. I mean, they talked about his balance. He always had his feet under him.

He looked way better than Ricky Simone. So let's ask the question. You and I were cautious, but we kind of thought Ricky Simone was going to be better. Totally wrong. What did we miss about Song Yedong that he looked this good and we didn't see it? Well, to be fair, our questions were about when or if he could put it all together.

The flashes in different categories of brilliance that we've seen. When could we see that consistently across a big-time fight to give you the visual that he's made a big leap and he's only getting better and he's only 24, obviously. But, dude, he put it all together in this fight. I mean, it wasn't like the calling card were the big strikes and the powerful right hands that he dropped Simone with. But he's knocking him all over the cage, to your point.

But the movement, the setup to get these combinations off is just brilliant. Everything is crisp, on point, Everything. This is the matcher. This is the all growns up moment up to this point where there's nothing negative to say. We all knew from the beginning because he was such a hyped prospect that, that it was possible that he could, you know, live up to the hype and become this, but this sport takes time and he needed that time.

But in that time we had legitimate questions. I love to eat crow. I love to be wrong because, you know, in a show like this, we're trying to give you the in-the-moment feeling of where's this guy going? What does it feel like? You'll see all the information we have. But let's also ride a hot feeling here. And sometimes it can be brutal.

Sometimes we're talking about like there's stocks, you know, going high and low. But there are humans under here. But I love it, Lukeke when somebody hears that and they they respond and they go to that next level it takes time we watched him go through it but if this is who uh song yedong is then he's a player in this deep deep deep division boy i gotta tell you here's what i missed i think it was i mean there's a lot of things. Like I said, dude, I mean, listen to this statistical performance, BC. He scored two knockdowns in the fight. Song Yedong did. He landed 110 of 234 attempted significant strikes. Ricky Simone just 64. I mean, he had almost double what the other guy had. He stuffed seven of nine takedowns total control time over two takedowns for ricky simone just 51 seconds that's it not much and then that nasty calf kicks to nasty calf kicks dude that how about how about song yedong's left hook that left hook couldn't

fucking miss and at times it wasn't just the left hook upstairs, but his body work in this fight. You mentioned in the calf kick. I'm talking about to the upper torso or whatever. His body punching, his body kicking at times. Simone would go southpaw or whatever. Was just remarkable. What a performance from this guy. Here's the thing.

I was looking at his record. I was like, what was holding me back? Because we were really wrong, right? So what was holding me back? Okay, he really wrong, right? So what was holding me back? Okay, he didn't look great against Corey Sanhagen. Boy, that Corey Sanhagen win looks excellent in retro. I mean, it looked good at the time. I think it looks even better today.

But then before that, he beat a faded Marlon Marais very easily inside of a round. He beat Julio Arce, who was good but not great. He beat Casey Kenney, kind of a similar situation. He lost to Kyler Phillips, who I do have a high high opinion of and then he has the win over Marlon Vera but that's from 2020 who's that's a very different Marlon Vera and that was a disputed day look that was a disputed win that was a very close fight to be fair okay and then before that he had and then before that he had to draw with Cody Stamen which was also like a close issue and these are good fighters but you kind of thought well he's sort of like outside the top 10 level.

Good, dangerous, big puncher, but not those other things. Dude, to your point about putting it all together, I'm going to say this is his best performance. I know he's got quicker wins or whatever. This is his best performance in the octagon to date. I feel very confident in that. And from the word go, looking better, having a great game plan, having a balanced striking, having a balanced overall offense, knowing when to go, having an

opponent, by the way, who has ridiculous cardio, great wrestling. They scouted him, BC. They had a good game plan going in, knowing what to do. A high-level fighter, knowing what the assignment is, having a wide range of tools to go to while focusing on your strengths, that's elite fighting. We haven't seen him do this against an opponent who, by the way, Ricky Simone, come into this contest, let's remind everyone, not on a losing streak,

on the hottest streak of his career entering this, which is why we had the confidence in him, obviously, incorrectly, it turns out in retrospect, retrospect but dude to do it like an opponent like he proved to me unequivocally he's a top five guy in this division no doubt about it Ricky Simone was sitting at like nine or ten whatever it was and he was thoroughly outclassed in virtually every dimension in this fight. This was the performance of Song Yedong's career by a country mile. Loved what I learned about him. Yeah, and you can't discount how hot Simone was

on that four-fight win streak and how much it looked like he was ready to turn a corner. You're right. He didn't just get edged out. He got absolutely dominated. So you love to see it. You love to see it, especially not only getting proven wrong,

but somebody rising to the occasion and putting it together. It was great. And to be fair, Luke, the same moment happened in that co-main event. How about Kyle Barajo, who was screaming into the camera afterwards? Dude, we got to start watching out for this neck-tatted threat because he's going after it. Before we switch, we'll go to him in just a second. Before we switch, okay, so now we know Song Yedong belongs in the top five very clearly but we also know

there's a lot of other talent there and while Ricky Simone is a really nice win for him though again I think his best performance and in many ways his best win although Chito Vera has a bigger name what do you do with him next? Who makes sense as the next right fight for this kid as he's now beginning to really enter very special territory? It's interesting because you wouldn't hate a Marlon Vera rematch considering that first fight was so close, but Vera is coming off a defeat.

Maybe Rob Font is the fight. Maybe that's the next escalation of how real are you font came back with a very impressive stoppage of yanez he's 35 he was off for a long time and he's really trying to make that one big last run like like josh emmett for example just did late in his career all the way to the title level so uh that seems to be a perfect contendership fight for access into the upper core of this very loaded division man i love this division so much yeah so i love that one so here's the ones that make sense to me you got marab sitting at one if henry wins i suspect marab might be next we'll see how that goes if not i don't know how that's going to play out sean

o'malley sitting at san hagen called out marab dude after that win and it don't know how that's going to play out. Sean O'Malley sitting at two. Sanhagen called out Marab, dude, after that win, and it don't taste good. Yeah. Right? I forgot about that. Corey Sanhagen sitting at three. So here are fights you could do, BC, in my mind. Four is Piotr Jan.

You could do that. I don't know if they want to do that with Song Yedong, but they could. I think that's a little bit too much for him personally, but you could do it. Chito Vera sitting at five. I like that one. Font is at six I love I think for me Vera and font make the most sense let me throw one more at you one more what about Dominic Cruz no no not for not for song dude Cruz isn't

at that level anymore Luke okay I agree but just for argument's sake he is sitting above him in the rankings right but i think i mean okay i agree with you to be fair this is the role that he's at this is the role that ufc would want dom cruz to play right you know like you make that a main event even if you never heard of song you dong you know cruz like oh crap who is this so that's why you do that but man I want I'd want somebody who's a little who looks like they're going in the upper direction right no disrespect to

Cruz but like you know that's why Font's got enough in the tank and it's coming off a big enough win where it's just perfect I don't love the Cruz one in that same regard here's what I think you do I want Cruz on every pay-per-view on the on the microphone Luke that's why I want Dom Cruz I'm sorry I do it is he's great here's what i think you do i want cruz on every pay-per-view on the uh on the microphone luke that's why i want dom cruz i'm sorry i do it is he's great here's what i think you do i think you can do song of dong as you indicated against vera or font either of those

work for me i think you do dominant cruz versus umar nurmagomedov because what you would want there is you would want to build up a name against the known quantity and dominant crews. Song Yedong, again, looked amazing, but he's still just 24. We don't have to rush it. Umar, to me, looks ready. He looks ready for a big step. Yeah, he is. Given crews, it thrusts him right into that spotlight after that.

Dude, in a different time, in a different division, Umar would be like in the top five right now. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah. Dude, we don't know this because the matchmakers never tell us. You know this guy has been turned down a lot. You know people have been like, hey, the matchmakers are like, hey, we want you to fight Umar.

They're like, no, I'm good. Guaranteed, dude. I bet he has been turned down by chicks, Luke. Well, you know, I don't know what kind of life he leads as a nearly monastic sort of uh um uh practicing member of the of islam but uh you get the idea like he is he's ready my friend hey can i can i bring up breaking news that just came in to you can i get your reaction sure uh from from espn's mike coppinger after three fights together, Ryan Garcia announces that he is cutting ways

with Joe Goosen. And no word yet on which trainer will replace him, but Garcia is going up to 140, like he said, full-time. No more Joe Goosen. Your thoughts, Luke? Okay, here's what I'll say about that. I think the move to 140 is good. I think

that's right. I think it's a better weight class for him. Fine. It's not that I think he needs Joe Goosen. Like, it's Joe Goosen or Bust. Right? I'm not positioning Joe in that way. But like I said, dude, when Joe said during the week leading up to Davis Garcia that he doesn't really tell Ryan what to do.

They collaborate on a game plan. I got a weird feeling, dude. I had a weird feeling that that didn't sit right with me. I said, so on the show, when my first opportunity back, there's just not enough.

Ryan, it seems to me from the outside, looking in has a lot of ability and a lot of drive, but not a lot of, he doesn't allow a lot of oversight into his ability coachability and i think that's going to hold him back i think let's be honest about this we don't know we're not there with ryan garcia day to day but what did canelo alvarez what was canelo willing to go public about in the aftermath of ryan leaving eddie reynoso and team

canelo there in San Diego. They questioned Ryan's work ethic. They said, we know his talent, we know who he could be, but he wasn't willing to give, you know, a championship level of, of commitment. Ryan, of course, you know, fought against that publicly and, and, and said, you know, it was more about the attention. Ryan needed more hands-on attention. Um, look, it wouldn't be, if Ryan is a bit of a diva, we don't know. He wouldn't be the first star fighter in that regard. And his own promoter, again, Oscar De La Hoya, a Hall of Famer, sort of regularly cycled through elite trainers once he got up to a certain stature. He had Robert Alcazar for most of his build. Then it was just sort of

like, he was just trying to find the perfect fit fit not just at times to change his style a bit but when he finally found floyd mayweather senior for example oscar finally had that connection that he was looking for if it's just ryan needing to find that connection fine joe's a hall of famer but he does have a certain style if he's going to escalate and come back with like derrick james or someone that you're like okay they can really work on some of the technical deficiencies that are just not there for someone of his excitement and name value. Fine. But Joe seemed like he was like a fatherly friend to Ryan. And if that fell apart so quickly, dude, is Ryan the issue here?

Luke, Ryan might be the issue. We don't know. We're not there. But again, I think it will depend on who he hires next and what he hires them to do, right? Yeah, that's fair. So we'll see. He's still young enough where a lot of things could get cleaned up.

Also, last thing on this for Davis Garcia, did you see from the All Access epilogue that Ryan, like, you know what? Old Brendan Schaub got beat up a little bit on social, and he was like, you guys are stupid if you don't think you had an injury. Big win. Big win for Schaub in the court of public opinion. It turns out Brendan Schaub was correct, BC. Dude, in the court of public opinion,

big win for Brendan Schaub from day one was like, sorry, guys, obviously Ryan was injured, and people were clowning him, but it looks like, and we talked about the mole in the camp, that Mongolian boxer who fought over the weekend, I didn't see the result, but who may or may not have injured Ryan's ribs in sparring. That was a whisper between Goosen and Garcia about,

you know, did the shot hit you in that spot? Yes. Okay. No problem. So that does win back Ryan for whatever it matters in his own court of sport uh court of public opinion for his toughness and all that but um man Nostra Shabbish is back Luke he's back okay he he knew he knew credit to him all right BC uh point number four topic four we'll stick with the UFC Vegas 72 card but a very basic one for you give me somebody else who stood out for their performance maybe good or bad what do you think yeah dude kayo barajo is the answer right here if i'm pronouncing that

correctly you definitely aren't remember i don't speak portuguese but i had a brazilian guy explain this to me r in front is h two r's together in the middle is also h so how should i be saying this kyo kyo uh i think it's kyo bohalio kyo bohalio yeah dude he's fun as shit but he's he's he's really good he seems at the very least that intensity and the way he screamed into the microphone afterwards that like he really felt like he had something to prove this is a tough enough foe in olleg Seychik who brings the fight to you and had his own moments here but to get that victory and the way he did with that much emotion and almost the ease

once it got to the ground dude I mean he was nasty down there Luke somebody to watch, young fighter but you get an aggressive tattoo across your throat like that, that screams about your intentions and who you are but if he's mixing that with incredible work ethic, and obviously he's in great shape, and if he's training that mind

and getting better as quick as it looks, dude, I guess we got to wake up here, Luke. We got somebody to watch, man, because he's got that killer instinct, right? You've seen that. He's got like that Dobronk's killer instinct. He found it, Luke. I don't know. We'll see, right?

He found it. I'm not as high on this as you are. I'm not as high on this. He found it, Luke. I don't know. We'll see, right? He found it. I'm not as... Okay. I'm not as high on this as you are. Maybe I'm just high. I mean, that's a possibility, right? Yeah. Maybe you just swallowed all the gummies before the show. I don't know. I'll say this. The thing that I thought

was best was his timing on the level changes was really, really good. His timing on that, like he really had a clear sense of when to attack. He couldn't get one of them. DC mentioned that he wasn't jacking up the underhook on the knee tap to turn him properly, which was right. But then he gets the second one, and then he worked from the back. And again, once he starts working in the jiu-jitsu world where if someone has

relented to a position and now you are fighting on these terms, well, he gets to work right away. Here's the things that stood out to me, though. Like, I didn't love some of the striking exchanges.

It was two southpaws. He was getting clipped with left hooks by sort of leaning over himself all the time at the end of exchanges. I didn't love that. And I also didn't, like,

you know, if you go back and watch how the choke gets in, don't get me wrong, Bojalio has great control, but then he snatches the throat relatively easily. And then once he closes it, Olexayshik is not even really fighting the hands. Like it wasn't like, you know, it's a clean win. It's a nice win. He looked pretty good for the whole way through. And in his areas of control, he looked very good but I don't know we learned a whole lot from this I don't know that we like oh we were so wrong to question about why some of these other fights were going to decision I appreciate that he was able to get the finish again this is not a poor grade I would give it a b plus maybe a minus like he did well but he didn't do all that much differently and he had an opponent where some of his particular strengths were very much able to shine against noticeable weaknesses that his opponent had in this particular contest.

So two thumbs up for me, but I don't know that I would change my overall outlook about him based on this one performance. Well, that sounded very similar to Chris rocks. I'm there for my kids rant, Luke and stuff. What's his, what's his, what's his argument about it? He's there for bring the pain, Luke, against – What's his argument about he's there for his kids?

From bring the pain, you know, for people that are like, I'm there for my kids. You know, you're supposed to be. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Oh, right. I take care of my kids. What do you want, a cookie?

Yeah, you're like, he's supposed to win in that way. Okay, great. It looked impressive, though. It looked like he was dialed in. I'm not necessarily speaking for his long-term title future, but he got my attention luke he asked for it he called for it look when somebody is not finishing we've seen it before so hudo went through that too spoiler alert on resume review right where he was getting a lot

of decisions but you like to see when the fighter feels that pressure tries to implement it and evolve his game and then gets a finish like that in In that regard, I saw you. I want to see you again. Let's do that thing. I'm not trying to marry him or grope him necessarily, Luke, okay? But this was more of like, all right, okay, I'm taking notice. Uncle BC's back. All right, here we are. You know what I mean?

I mean, what do you want me to do, Luke? Do you want me to get the white belt out? Do you want me to wear the white belt on me? Okay, Luke, you know what I mean? Can you just put it around your throat and cinch it as hard as possible no no but uh you know uh i have white belt jujitsu knowledge luke okay and never forget that very good bc very quickly very quickly adolfo vieira getting a win over cody brundage although cody brundage pulling guillotine on him

boy i don't don't get that one gotta be honest with you uh fernando padilla winning against julian arosa my dumb ass was like yeah that one's gonna go the distance yeah that one did not go the distance uh jerry o'dalima to be defeating waldo cortez acosta trey waters by the way a fresh off his lfa win over jaylen fuller uh one here uh jake collier a few other ones yo jerry o not worried about the waistline right now, Luke, but he's getting stuff done, right? Hey, he got his hand raised, right? Yeah.

Dude, doesn't he look like, do you remember the Sarlacc? No, no, you remember that giant guy in Return of the Jedi in the pit below, but he had a handler, the guy that cried at the end when he got crushed by that? Oh, when the big monster loses to Luke Skywalker and then the guy who's big and fat comes out of crushed by that oh when the when the big monster loses to luke skywalker then the guy who's like big and fat comes out of the end he's crying dead monster yeah that guy kind of looks like uh looks like him look but don't tell fighters i want to shout out then we'll move on to our last question here our last topic bc1 yeah arena elect seva that's how they pronounced it i'm not sure how to pronounce it she missed weight like like by five

pounds but then kneebarred Stephanie Egger pretty well in the end she's got that Russian boxing with the wide hooks she obviously is Russian so that was a nice win she got it done the first round and how about Marcus McGee three days notice three days notice against Journey Newsome UFC debut and he wins in the second round at 703 via a rear naked choke out of the MMA lab in Arizona. So good job by him. Indeed. And I just want to say, you mentioned Rodolfo Vieira, Luke.

That wasn't easy, dude. He walked through hell to get that win, but he needed it. And you saw that emotion come out. He's still fun to watch, but he's not a finished product, Luke. No, I mean, listen. Once again, he's like Kyle Behalia in the sense that like, okay, if we're now, if he has an opponent who has relented to the ground, right, they're going to fight on those terms, well, he gets cooking real quickly.

Like, he's very, very good there, obviously. But everything else is really, it's, I don't know. I don't know how this one's going to go. He's a TV fighter, dude. We thought he was like this technical specialist. He's more of a TV fighter, right? He's a TV fighter. I think you're right. I think you're right. All right, BC. We'll he was like this technical specialist. He's more of a TV fighter, right? He's a TV fighter. I think you're right.

I think you're right. All right, BC. We'll be on pay-per-view this weekend. It'll actually be in Newark, New Jersey. You and I are not really going because I guess we don't really want to. But either here, neither here nor there, UFC 288 takes place in Newark, New Jersey at the Prudential Center, which is just down the street from the world's worst train. By the way, all the MMA fans who think that I'm lying about the Newark train station,

you will have an opportunity if you're going to this fight card to go and test whether or not I am lying to you. It's just down the street from the Prudential Center, so you can go and look. But BC, here's what I would care more about, less so that instead, what storyline about UFC 288 are you paying attention to most as fight week kicks off today yeah it's it's 36 year old Henry Cejudo the return from three years away after giving up his title and sort of going into this opportunistic free agent mode a couple of teases and threats on comebacks but now it's right now for the title.

He never lost his belt. He's facing the current champion in Aljo, who, you know, has had some turns, both the DQ and then the win over Dillashaw that didn't teach us anything. I think Aljo's looking for some identity in his own Bantamweight title reign here, and he can do nothing better than to try to beat the last champion who never lost it here in Cejudo. It's a huge fight for Sterling's, well, certainly his legacy, but I think more his pound-for-pound critical notoriety for the moment. How good is Aljo Sterling? If he goes out and wins this, we're not mentioning the Dillashaw injury as much or the weird DQ in the long time off after that.

But you talk a lot about that stat that I'd like you to say again for the people. What we are asking of 36-year-old Henry Cejudo is a lot. But as you'll learn watching our resume review on Tuesday, and as you've already learned watching his career, we're welcoming back the return of of one of the greatest thinking man fighters in combat sports history who adapts game plans makes adjustments i mean the biggest storyline here for me luke is how does suhudo look and what the heck are we going to say about his legacy and resume if he pulls this off this is a big fight suhudo doesn't get the love and respect he probably deserves because of the cringe character but i don't even feel like anyone's even talking about this fight dude i can't

wait to see what's hudo looks like that's what i'm focused on right now yeah no doubt about it so what's interesting is the stat you mentioned it goes like this between flyweight and welterweight so all of the uh fights there for any ufc fighter 35 years or above uh in title fights what is their record and the record is 2 and 28 those two belong to tyron woodley one of which was a win over darren till who at that fight darren till was obviously very young i think in that contest he was i got it right here he was let's see 25 years old in eight months however the other fight where where tyron woodley was able to defy the odds so to speak was against demi and maya at ufc 214 and in that contest

demi and maya was 39 years of age so at least in one of those two cases and they got boot out of the building dude they got they got they got the shit boot out of them right but fair enough tyron woodley won that one walking away the point i'm trying to make here is it's 2 and 28 and folks wonder well that i've seen some folks like well that doesn't mean anything well it's hard to know exactly what any statistic means but if you're wondering what it means for middleweight and above the same considerations ufc title fights guys 35 and above it's basically 50 50. so you go from 228 where one guy two and 28 where one guy got two of those one of those against a 39-year-old guy, and the other,

at 185 and above, it's basically a coin flip, one way or the other. Right? So in other words, age in the lighter weight classes, from a statistical perspective, if nothing else,

is highly determinative of outcomes. Highly determinative. And at 36 years of age, no one has done it. There's not been many bantamweight title fights in history of age no one has done it there's not been many bantamweight title fights in history but no one has done it at 36 years of age and captured the belt it's actually never happened before more to that point when he beat dominic cruz bc in his last contest he was drum roll 33 that is the age aljamain sterling is today 33 years of age so so folks are you saying are you saying

henry's gonna lose bc last thing on this are you saying he's gonna lose well these don't predict the future in the way that you might think that they are what we are saying is is it an extra uphill climb yes 36 years of age with three years off at 135 pounds yes it is 100 against a guy like aljo who's you know awkward and and strong in certain areas that are hard to prepare for yes which is why we have to ask ourselves this look henry suhudo rushed into the idea of calling himself great because he's an opportunistic fighter who sometimes right place one right time sometimes he pushed for it publicly you know he got himself he became a two division champion he got himself into big fight opportunities before stepping away for three

years, kind of unannounced. So, you know, lack of happiness with the, with the pay it's obvious he was trying to gain some leverage, but he already has a tough legacy to figure out because it's screaming all time. Great. And sometimes you have to look through there and look at the circumstances and go, okay, is he really? If he comes back and he wins this, dude, there's going to be no stop signs anymore on where you rank him and if you allow him into that upper tier conversation even of all-time greats. But if he does it, dude, look at that statistic. We are asking a ton out of him.

So I love this challenge for him because if you had any doubt of who suhudo is all time and if he was really of that ilk go back and re-watch his fights watch our resume review it may it may you know lean you in one direction but he has a chance to prove it to us right here because if he comes back and does this that's gsp shit right i mean you know what i mean like that's like that's like that's all the only people that do that are the great dominant crews to be injured and be off for that long and then come back in super elite fights and for the most part make it look like he hasn't skipped a beat um we're talking about rarefied air so if suhudo is of that ilk he's going to come back and he's going to win this fight and that's why I want to bang the drum a little bit more on Monday right now and just be like,

dude, there's a potential in history here on Saturday. Get ready. One of the greats is back. All right. Let's try to shave off some of that side cringe over here. And let's focus on this American hero going for his own title a second time. Oh, man, dude. Right.

What a fight. Come on. By the way, and, right? What a fight. Come on. You're fired up over here. By the way, and I want to be clear about something. Again, going back to folks like, why are you sharing that stat? It's like, well, listen, it's important no matter what happens, right? So on the one hand, let's say Henry loses. It would tell you that, like, yeah,

like trying to do what he did at his age in this division, it's, to this point, impossible. I mean, not obviously in reality, but very, very difficult to do. And if even the likes of Henry Cejudo can't do it, you begin to wonder who could. On the other hand, BC, the opposite is true, right? So let's say Henry does, in fact, win, and he becomes the first person to advance in weight to beat the odds in this particular regard.

Yeah, he shows you what he's made of at that point. He shows you that, like, of course, we've already seen it two division champion olympic champion but you know really doing that extra special thing that only is reserved for the very best of the best either way it's a relevant stat folks think i shared it because i'm like telling you henry's gonna lose no i'm telling you henry's up against it that's true but we don't really know what's gonna happen oh i do want to make a point though aljamain sterling isn't being hated this time around because I don't think the fight has a ton of fanfare. And people do love Henry,

but they don't love him so much that they're really attacking Aljo in that way. But I'll tell you this much. When Aljo had his first fight with Pyotr Yan, I thought, we've seen the level of what Aljo can do, and it's goodr Yan. I thought, eh, you know, he's sort of, we've seen the level of what Aljo can do, and it's good, but it's not going to be enough. And then he goes in there and beats him,

and of course he beats Sandhagen as well before that and all that kind of stuff. But really proving that, like, his ascendancy is no fluke. BC, if he goes in there and beats Henry Cejudo, even with Henry having the uphill climb in terms of age, you know, the respect I think he would be owed at that point would be overdue is putting it lightly. That would be an incredible championship run

against very difficult opposition. I mean, look, the DQ, not his fault, right? He had to be off for a year, which bottlenecked the division. Not really his fault. You know, Dillashaw's shoulder, not his fault right he had to be off for a year which bottlenecked the division not really his fault you know Dillashaw's shoulder not his fault this is the fight though that that we're from a pound for pound standpoint gonna have to figure out exactly where he fits in and give him his flowers like big opportunity for him but one more time on Cejudo if he wins it Luke that's John Jones shit right there it is like that's what the goats do right they do this shit they this is what they do this is what they do also one more note if i may it's the return of

crone gracie he'll open the main card bc obviously we know about the stakes in the co-main below muhammad and gilbert burns sort of number one contender fight which is important don't want folks to lose sight of movsar uh of loev who's taking on bryce mitchell all this is kind of happening last minute notice evloev sitting at number 10 in the rankings we make a lot of comments about who's coming and ilia taporia and that 145 contender push up top movsar evloev or evloev however you say it quietly inching his way on up and bryce mitchell remember he got whooped that's what i'm saying dude this is bryce m Bryce Mitchell right back into the,

what do you say with that frying pan analogy all the time? Out of the frying pan into the fire. Yeah, that's straight out of 1950s middle America, that analogy right there, Luke. And it's true in this case, dude. He was like talking about retirement in the, you know, hazy hangover of how badly he was beaten and stopped there by I mean got submitted by uh Ilya Teporia but it was a it was a beaten dude he's coming back and facing

somebody who's on a great run unbeaten in the UFC unbeaten overall uh ready to show us exactly who he is I got respect for Bryce Mitchell taking this fight right now right here that that's how great he still feels he can be, Luke, but he's got some questions to answer. So that's a great fight. And the same storyline into that Krohn Gracie, as you mentioned, at featherweight against Charles Jordan. Luke, I didn't realize that Krohn's the son of Hickson,

as we already know, and the grandson of Helio, the co-founder of BJJ. But I didn't know in the three years since he's been gone that everyone from his dad to you know his Gracie cousins were openly criticizing the last time we saw Kroen Gracie when he stubbornly refused to take the fight to the ground and got into that slugging war with Cub Swanson and it was a fun fight but you know he got beat up and handled in that one I didn't know there was like public family pressure of like no jiu-jitsu you know, come on, you know what I mean?

There's always family pressure with the Gracies. So do you think he comes back looking to tap that ass, Luke, or what? I mean, I have to go back and watch the Cub Swanson fight, but from recollection, I don't think he wasn't necessarily, he wasn't trying to take him down. He just wasn't very good at it. And Cub Swanson tuned him up as a result. No, dude, he was committed to taking big punches and trying to walk him down in like a

barbaric way. You got to go. Cause I got criticized after that fight for saying, you know what? I kind of liked the striking of Chrome Gracie and everybody's laughing at me. What I meant was I liked his sort of one-sided willingness. Like I have to show you guys, I can do this.

So I'm just going to go out there no matter what and walk through that shit. I mean, it didn't look great doing it, Luke, but I appreciated the effort. Apparently the Gracie's did not, but you know, I can do this. So I'm just going to go out there no matter what and walk through that shit. I mean, it didn't look great doing it, Luke, but I appreciated the effort. Apparently the Gracies did not, but you know. Yeah, they say he's only credited with two takedown attempts, both of which happened in the third round. Again, I'd have to go back and watch.

But as I, one of my, Chrome Gracie has amazing jujitsu. People think, oh, he has bad striking, but good wrestling. No, his wrestling is not that great either. His jujitsu people think oh he has bad striking but good wrestling no his wrestling is not that great either uh his jujitsu is god tier i mean you just can't get much better than what he is right i mean it's just like the apex level although he has an old school style but his wrestling is not amazing by any stretch of the imagination and his striking is not great at all so um just to correct the record there about that thank you for doing that luke oh by the way drew dober matt for vola and that featured prelim is gonna be a banger luke bc gonna

be bang bang bang bang try and stop i got a name for you you should pay attention to on the very like near the bottom of this card ikram alaskarov and i know you haven't heard of him but he's important for a couple of hold on here here's you being too good too you think i'm trying to make a hipster pick when i'm actually trying to help the audience and this is you getting in your own way again here's why he's relevant two reasons one combat sambo world champion he is the only guy in combat sambo on two occasions to beat yaroslav amasov number one number two he actually fought on the regional scene, Hamzat Chumaev.

Now, he did get knocked out by Chumaev, because Chumaev is an absolute hammer, but he could not take this kid down, and he tried, hardcore. Alaskarov, excuse me, stuffed all of his attempts, and of course, I think he had a contender series bout, which he won via Kimura in the first round. The dude looks absolutely ready for the big time he is on this card i think on the early prelims he'll be taking

on phil hawes be on the lookout for him yeah i will be thank you very much um you're welcome you're into andrage versus uh yan chan on i mean that's in the sense that they've both earned this fight against the other sure in terms of like do i really believe that the winner of this can be the weight class champion in the case of andrage again no i don't no yeah all right i'm with you i get it luke i don't hate this card but it's not um i mean look we didn't even mention the negative storyline that encircles this card why are you rushing balal muhammad and gilbert burns into a five round non-title co-main event that you say you're promising them will produce

the next title challenger when burns was just in a three-round fight three weeks ago and balal muhammad accepted this fight while still observing ramadan for a month and fasting like this is the wrong time the fighters basically let that be known but is this the only chance they're going to get to come save this card and fight each other right now and figure out who's going to follow Colby Covington into the Leon Edwards fight I guess yeah I guess they just wanted more insurance because it's on pay-per-view I don't know much I can't imagine why they would rush it beyond that, to be honest with you. Doesn't it seem hasty, Luke? It seems very hasty.

It's hasty. Yeah. This is not in any way the, like, wow, if you could do a perfect world, what would be the optimal time for this fight? It would not be now. It's far from that. But anyway.

It seems like they're having trouble in the war room. You know what? They look like me trying to fill out that imaginary IFW card, which, Luke, I still think I won, even though i botched it in the end but no it did look like me trying to you definitely imagine if i had just put adesanya against chamayev in the main event no one would have any issue with all my rematches the rest of the way yeah yeah yeah if you had done things you didn't do you might have won but because you did the things you did says the guy who mapped out john jones versus robert whitaker okay yeah great fine i'll take the l the main

event sucks the rest of my card buries yours no you don't have chumaya versus bo nickel you we don't have that at home mom no we don't have conor mcgregor versus islam makachev so you can uh you can yeah but you, Rose Whaley three is really the people's champion fight, you know, people's main event on that card, Luke.

Okay. So yeah. How about Brandon Moreno versus Henry Cejudo? Why don't you, why don't you, I mean, that's,

that's fun, but I got Gaethje too, Luke. I got, we'll just bang you. Okay. That's what I got. All right.

You want to have fun? I've got, I've got Greg Hardy and Taito Iwasa just banging, just banging. All right. We're done with our top five. Let's get to the part of the show where you get to have fun i've got i've got greg hardy and ty to evasa just banging yes banging all right uh we're done with our top five let's get to the part of the show where you get to ask us questions it's time for dms from the diggity dogs yeah the real boys and girls yeehaw all right we've got

more male viewers viewers all right bc from at theDando. What the fuck kind of name is that? All right, aside from Mighty Mouse, good question, actually. Has Mike Perry had the most successful post-UFC career? And they're defining that as fame, money, and fighting success. What do you think, BC? Because you couldn't say Brock Lesnar because he went back to WWE. I mean, he fought the one more time in 200 or whatever, but not really. So the idea is that they were with the UFC.

They left to go somewhere else, and then who had the most success, highest profile, all that, and doing that. Yeah, so with fame, money, and fighting success. They had to win fights, they got paid, and they got attention for it. I feel like there's an obvious one we're missing, Luke. What are the contenders in this category? Benson Henderson would be one. Anyone who left UFC, Phil Davis would be one.

Oh, Ryan Bader, I guess you could say, right? Ryan Bader had a lot of success when he left. A million dollars, too. You could say Corey Anderson. Anybody who left UFC for Bellator or something like that. You could maybe say Kyoji Horiguchi, because he wound up winning the Bellator or something like that um you could maybe you could maybe say Kyoji Horiguchi because he wound up winning the Bellator and Rizin belts when he left became a huge star obviously in Japan by having some time spent in Rizin uh you could put him on

that list Gaff is shooting up Matt Riddle right now which is very interesting okay Matt Riddle or Matt Riddell however you say it but the problem was he didn't fight really he did pro wrestling so that's not you can just call him Riddle you don't have to like offer alternate pronunciations am i not am i imagining things that like ufc commentators called this dude riddle for a long time well mike goldberg will call anybody anything luke all right i mean please you're right you know uh okay uh point taken so yeah again if you want to include other things there are people who blew up afterwards but like chale would be a good example of a guy who made a decent post ufc run but yeah losses and you know so yeah mike perry is on that list dude mike perry is on that list

all right from at slick propaganda that's a better name is there any information on BKFC's drug testing policy is there one should we care if there is for folks who may not know I believe Stephen Morocco of MMA fighting had asked the Colorado Commission who's in charge of drug testing this event they were like not us and we're like well then who and everyone's like ask Novitski about it I'm so happy I'm not responsible for that anymore yeah obviously they don't have it okay i don't even think that i don't even think they have like minimal state required piss tests right luke they don't even have that right right well again the commission said they were not testing for it like openly yeah i'm not testing i've talked to a bkfc fighter

before who echoed that too um should they have it no this is a carnival luke this is this really is i mean is there danger can you imagine thinking i mean could you imagine how absolutely 1980s nancy reagan drug war were brainwormed you have to be to be like you know what bkfc needs right no they don't need drug testing neither does power slap you know turns out hgh that's really what a shock everybody in power slap is on all kinds of drugs yeah obviously right i mean come on no but just look it's obvious it should be obvious to you that elite levels of boxing mma that they're everywhere so um i mean dude who shows up to an orgy and goes you know what this

orgy needs more condoms that's really that's the thing that's missing that would be a very jay aaron move probably right yeah yeah hey what's jay good for he's the guy who brings the condoms doesn't ever use them but he's got them no no yeah that's a yeah there you go all right uh i'm saying he doesn't use it because he doesn't get laid but there could be other reasons why he also doesn't use them all right from at cole underscore brown 858 i'm gonna i'm gonna get a text from him he's like uh i do get late all right after a big win against legendary judo jimmy walhead and another cage warriors title uh what does rise mckee have to do to get another shot in the ufc i think he's poised bc did you see he got a big win over the weekend i think yeah i wasn't following this story luke is that uh an Is that Antonio McKee's other son from the body shop, Luke?

Probably not. No, unless he has a white son that I'm not aware of. But no, Rize is from the UK. And Jimmy, Juno Jimmy Walhead fought in the UFC for a little bit. Sort of a famous guy on the UK scene during my 20s and 30s. He retired officially to the loss, after the loss, I should say. And then Rize McKee. Here's the thing. I i love cage warriors and it's really relevant for the european guys but for american people if you're not into or you don't have time for like the very very top promotions

we give to a portion of your time it's hard to make time for it certain certain cases so dude i'm so happy i'm not covering pro wrestling anymore do you know how much time you have to put in on a weekly basis to be a it's like every day there's something every day dude there's hours per week of stuff i mean just hours it's just and it never lives up to like making you feel redeemed of getting your time you know well spent you know i mean it and it's a shame because you know the highest levels of that genre are awesome. They're great. But, man, you got to carry a lot of water to get there, Luke. You got to carry jugs of it.

Big jugs. Giant jugs. I mean, we all like big jugs once in a while, right? Yeah. Okay. I don't know how we ended up there. All right. That's great.

I like them, too. Who doesn't like a nice big little pair of jugs? I mean, it makes the world go round. All right. They do. They do. A-O- do aopw underscore figures fill in the blank tank davis is to boxing as blank is to mma what do you think bc if sean o'malley wins a title then that's a decent comparison right yeah he would have to win it well'd have to win a title and become...

Tank didn't win a title. Who? Tank? Tank. Well, he's... Not one that matters. Yeah, he's won secondary titles, but you're right. He's...

Yeah, you're right. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. I don't know if it's actually possible to be a megastar in MMA without winning a title. you can be something special and you can do better than a lot of people dustin poirier is trying hard huh dustin poirier is the rare nate ds also won an interim strap so that's not totally fair yeah you know yeah you see what

i'm saying like you got to be in proximity to that or Or you've got to be a character, Nate Diaz, Cowboy Cerrone. Yeah, I get it. Whatever. In general. I mean, there can be an exception here or there. I mean, Sean O'Malley comes the closest to trying to make an equivalent of Gervonta. He just needs to get across the board critically. It's not okay.

Everybody knows Sean O'Malley is elite. He's about to fight for the title probably, right? So we all know that. But I think Gervonta has proven a little bit more that how great he is and that if you match him up with anyone he's got a chance to win it right O'Malley still has a little bit more proven with that by the way we're not talking about it but Friday uh we should be ready he gets sentenced on Friday Gervonta Davis so Friday's a big day Luke you ready for this day Gervonta Davis. So Friday's a big day, Luke. You ready for this? Huge day. Gervonta has his hearing to get sentenced,

although I do hear his team is confident there will not be jail time, just potentially some type of home setup. We shall see. We shall see. It's my 16th wedding anniversary, Luke. You know what I mean? It's Cinco de Mayo. It's one championship's first card in the U.S.,

and it's a good one, by the way. We got a bunch of interviews you can check out on our youtube channel with demetrius johnson uh rich franklin all that also luke game bread bare knuckle is giving us the return of roy nelson with roberto duran promised ringside in that uh and that sloppy setup they got going on there you care about that no because dylan bad boy Kleckler gonna take on big country Nelson and for game bread bare knuckle Friday night no you're not I'm good I'm good Marlon Vera on the call no you're not into that okay all right there you go I mean I like

Marlon just fine but uh I'm not interested in that card all right last but not least be so yes so Tank Davis big day on Friday big day you're Yeah, you're right. All right. At Cal dot, I mean, this is this fucking guy's name, Cal dot Cummy. Good God, that's awful. Oh, God. Wow. Drove past the queue for a Cannibal Corpse gig last week and never have I seen a bigger gathering of unemployment and regrettable tattoos. Yeah, that's fair.

With that said, what is the worst crowd you've ever experienced live bc go first um i went to spring break in like 2004 in daytona beach florida luke my parents lived there you know and i was like in my early 20s mid 20s you know probably shouldn't have been there i was at a digital underground concert which is interesting enough in 2004 there was there was a um there was it was a handsy crowd luke okay there was a lot of um inappropriateness going on all around me the crowd wasn't even really listening to the music either they were kind of just watching everybody get groped i mean it was gross luke that's a pretty bad crowd yeah that's pretty bad that's pretty bad um i'm trying to see if i can remember the name of the band that i saw that was so

absolutely awful in every capacity you could imagine i'm trying to find the name i can't find it here i don't have it in front of me um my i said before like i'm into like the heavier heavier kinds of metal thrash and you know death and then and then stuff like that and uh you know those crowds are filled with absolute trench coat mafia losers too i want to be very clear about that right like when people are talking about how gross the crowd looks at these shows they're right they look terrible but she took me to one of her shows and she's a little bit more into like Norwegian metal, like black metal death, but like, you know, Gothic metal almost, which I think is just, let me tell you something, folks. If your metal singers are dressing up like, you know,

a kiss cover band or old pro wrestlers, your fucking band sucks. Just want to be very clear about that. Like, I think very little of you or your taste or your band anyway she took me to one of those fucking bands and the crowd in attendance dude there was not a person there that had an alarm clock going off at 7 a.m for a job the next day not one i mean i was worried about getting lice i was worried about getting shot i was worried about anything you could imagine in terms of the overall level of humanity in that in that room and uh i told her after that night i would never go to one of those shows again and i haven't so look i think your love of weird gross metal is probably your worst character trait and most surprising luke why i mean you are a you you pride yourself on being a knowledgeable knower of things and i think an appreciator of of your own versions of art you

know you love fine dining you have opinions about cities like you're you're a cultured guy man you know like you got a lot going on there across the board and then you also like cannibal corpse luke and you know like i mean i got a lot of holes in my game here too luke i mean if we showed that that that shot of my toes again you know we might lose subscribers but um you know i want you to uh i want you to appreciate the musical arts in ways that you have at times but you no longer are interested or willing to and i'm not saying maha vishnu orchestras for everybody look i'm not saying that okay i'm not saying that but well i'll tell you what after this last cannibal corpse show

that i went to i went to the one in fillmore and silver spring maryland after it was over i was like i think that's my last one of these for a little yeah it is, it is. It's time to put that away, Luke, okay? It is time to put that away. There was definitely some people there that, you know. I mean, you can keep vaping if you want. Probably had ankle bracelets, if I'm being honest. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I mean, how are you doing on vaping right now, Luke? Pretty good. I haven't. You can hear me coughing because my daughter just brings home communicable diseases like they're. It's a contest. But I haven't vaped in several days. So, you know, it's fits and spurts, but I'm doing okay.

Why don't you drink more water that just looks like someone dipped their balls in it? Hey, this used to be AG1, Luke. Are you growing tadpoles in there? What are you fucking doing? I'm cleaning out my insides, Luke. It takes time, all right? I do a lot of damage to it. But is that enough of the DMs?

Can we talk about some real shit? Yeah, let's do it. Time to see BC's feces. Let's see it. All right, I scoured the globe yesterday for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the in-between in the worlds of combat sports, but mostly beyond, right? Elder abuse, right?

Get ready. It's time for some shit. Yes. I love when old people get it. It's like, I i'm gonna get on this scooter this motorized scooter that i have no method of controlling oh luke we tend to start when ufc is at the apex right because they're always there uh here's ricky simone breaking out jokes from the bc playbook but not really pulling them not not really landing them here. Luke, your thoughts.

The dong is a little bit bigger than I thought. Is that what you wanted? I like how you think the BC playbook is sticking the landing on the jokes. I like how you think that. Yes, it is. It is. You got to sell. Look, sometimes the material is not great, but you got to sell it, right? You got to take it home.

You got to commit to the part, all right? By the way, I just want to point out. It's like Dusty Rhodes with the polka dots, right? I just want to point out, he's regrowing the mullet. I'm just saying. You've never seen a UFC champion with a mullet for a reason. All right. All right.

Well, he found out about you, Dong Luke. He knows the size of that challenge. Now, hey, let's go to Kyleyle borallo bohalio bohalio uh luke he wants respect and he wants it the fuck right now okay streak is 11th you see this now you see this now for respect to my fucking name luke you heard the man please you know what he should just write it on his throat Luke, you heard the man, please. You know what?

He should just write it on his throat. All right. Luke, flyweight Cody Durden picked up a decision win over Charles Johnson, but then he decided to drop some bars. You love weird rap. Let's get into this. I love weird rap. Man, I this i love weird rap and uh i'm ready for a ranked opponent you know that's three in a row and uh like i said before you know i don't promote fights i pick fights i'm a bad man like john jones and i sound like sean combs and i got

trombone size stones like John Holmes let's go baby you know Luke the great hip-hop artist Chael Sonnen he was sampling right there he sounds like Sean Combs Sean Combs hasn't sounded interesting in his life um so I don't know if that's exactly the comparison he wants all right he made a lot of money off of his friend's death Luke you got to give that to Sean certainly he monetized the balls off that didn't he dude when you die i'm selling fucking t-shirts left and right you understand you're gonna hire rj right i knew it uh look let's go to hire rj to make fuck bc and his death shirts uh featherweight fernando padilla is a newcomer luke and he he squeezed Juicy J right here.

You see this? Damn. Yeah, he sure did. He gets caught backing up straight and just gets lit up. He recovers and then gets hit again. Boom. Good Lord. The stoppage is a little bit sketch, right?

How do you feel about the stoppage? Yeah, but you know what? I like the pompous acts that Padilla's showing. He's acting the part of badass as he's knocking this guy around, man. Right? He's just like, yeah. Like, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I like that. Did you see him interact with his parents afterwards? No, I didn't. Should I have? Yeah, it was a real sweet moment, man. All right. Finally, Luke, you mentioned women's bantamweight Irina Alekseyeva. She may have weighed, you have weighed crazy heavy here,

but look at this celebration for the win. She joked about it because they call her the Russian Ronda, and then they asked her why. She's like, well, when I had long hair, I looked like Ronda, but then she joked apparently that she now looks like Henry Cejudo. Well, look, you can't spell judo without Cejudo. I wanted you to know that. Stephaniegar got handled there in round one all right let's keep it going luke a lot of people sent ryan garcia to hell before they realized he was injured and brendan shop was right

one of those people was former title challenger jessica i what'd you think of this meme luke yeah i mean i don't think much of it i think that this very insecure desire by folks in the community to make the world want to see that they're tougher or they believe that they're tougher than boxers and that they want the world to recognize this as a really a meaningless and and again as i mentioned kind of insecure errand that you're not going to win and it doesn't matter. And it's frankly not even true. So, yeah. All right.

Let's go over to BKFC 41. Luke, great transition. Your T-shirt of the week was from Beck Rawlings. I'm here for it, bro. I'm here for it. Okay. All right. I don't even think we can say it on the air but all right hey um

on the prelims though did you see this tyler weinmiller uh he he needed seven seconds to to end this bare knuckle fight watch this luke yeah big dan had his work cut out for him here bop oh just head on a not on a swivel just a a pike. Good Lord, man. He looks like Bam Bam Daru right there, right? Yeah, it looks like he's fighting Daru's accountant or Kenny Powers or something. Yeah, Luke, we bet you Conor McGregor was there. Dude, did you see him riding the roller coaster during Mendez Alvarez?

Watching his two sons compete, Luke. Sober, I'm sure. Although I'm not hating i wish i wish i could live a life like that where he's just showing up a hand like we need you to show up drunk we'll pay a you know 50 grand to do it okay all right all right well you're speaking of that they did have some proper 12 on site oscar willis was there with the bottle and you know connor the gentleman he is luke he went after it all right he went after it i gotta tell you i've said it before is proper 12 good whiskey no no it is not but is it good party whiskey yes it is yes i like shops better though dude shops whiskey's better man yeah it's

been shops whiskey is better overall but i'm saying like i've said it before it's like if someone gave it this music if you were like a whiskey connoisseur and someone gave you proper 12, you just chuck it in the garbage. Like it doesn't do anything for you. But if you're at a party and someone rolls up with it and you've got some Cokes in the fridge, you're like, yeah, we can work with that. We can work with that. It looks like if you got Coke, it's great.

It's fantastic. I wouldn't drink it. I wouldn't drink it. Like you're not sipping proper 12 for like it's deliciousness. You drink it. I wouldn't drink it. You're not sipping proper 12 for its deliciousness. You drink it to get drunk. Because it pairs great with Coke. That's why you're doing it. All right.

Luke, Eddie Alvarez's wife almost won the weekend. Did you hear the screaming during Eddie's fight with Mendes? Listen in on this. I don't know why people are just finding out about this. She's been doing this his entire career. Yeah, but dude dude she really sounded like she was getting stabbed for five rounds i mean again i'm gonna say it one more time she's been doing this audibly his entire career we played we got it we got it dad thank you sorry

looking to catch looking to parry Well, that didn't work out as planned, Luke, but she did scream really loud during that clip and a bunch of other things. I'll have to take your word for it. Great job. Yeah, I guess you would. I guess we fell apart there. Hey, Luke, it's combat sports karaoke time, all right? You know David Murrell Jr., right?

The unbeaten super middleweight secondary title holder. He was on the DAZN Boxing Show in Vegas ahead of that fight he had with Akin Barak. Let's check this out. Our fans, spit some bars, some bars, some lyrics. Real quick, real quick, come on. Come on, let's go. Hey.

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Dave, we're rocking spit bars, too. Luke, guaranteed, whatever song that was, it plays in your house. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Bro, there's these guys in Colombia, especially in Cartagena. Here's their bit, right? You got to remember, Latin America is a mix between the first and third world. So you're going to be walking down this really nice place with all these nice restaurants

and all these dudes panhandling outside. There's a crop of guys that what they do is they bring a beatbox with them and they'll play Little John in it or whatever. And then they come up to you and then they freestyle in front of you. They'll get your name. They'll be like, where are you from? What's your name? And you tell them and then they come up to you and then they freestyle in front of you. They'll get your name. They'll be like, where are you from? What's your name? And you tell them, and then they start freestyling,

and then they'll incorporate that in the freestyle, and then they'll be like, yo, pay me 20 bucks for that. Yeah, they do that in New York City, too. They put a CD in your hand, Luke, and they say it's free, but then they follow you down the sidewalk, and then they threaten your life, and it's uncomfortable if you get all the way to the end of that equation. I'll tell you that much.

All right, our second contestant on Combat Kara look is the uh the tkz he's on korean tv let's go to it This was my wedding song. I've had enough of that. It is nice to hear, though. Somebody so hard coming out so soft, Luke, for the ladies like TKZ did. Shout out to... Hey, he's just walking a path that Manny Pacquiao laid for him. Let's be real about that.

That's a great point. Luke, I know in high school, instead of chasing chicks, you were doing scientific experiments, probably, right? That's fair. That's a fair statement. Nah, depending on the year. Depending on the year. All right.

You ever take the Mentos Coke challenge but then bring it into the bathroom? Let's watch this incredible experiment. Are we about to look at white trash doing dumb shit? We are, right? We are, right? Oh my god. No, no, no no no no that has to be like computer generated no way that's that's the commode at malco luke after we had that mediterranean lunch that time remember i

shut that shit down in fairness this absolutely is my anus most ways but uh we've got one more experiment for you luke i want to get your thoughts on In fairness, this absolutely is my anus most. We've got one more experiment for you, Luke. I want to get your thoughts on. All right. Oh. Perfect. Great success.

Perfect. Very dangerous one. Very dangerous one. All right. Hey hey let's go over to uh you know i wish we got to get back in the studio more for mk because i i imagine like you know entrances where i come running through the handshake line into the studio luke with the camera following me like i want to get dramatic camera guys will be on their phone i want to get that senior night feel let's let's see how this senior night went on the volleyball court oh yeah just win baby i gotta tell you i oh there we go there it is there it is where where is this fedex field where the fuck are they yeah yeah thank you that's great can i just can i just point out by the way i mean uh let's see one more time first of all this is what they get for showing up to a volleyball game i mean just go

fuck your life losers go study or okay okay that's extreme that's go fuck each other do something productive this isn't a giant waste of your time but more to the point man i've never had a day like this like i don't know what your family is like and when i say my family i mean like also my friends too like my circle around me i don't want to just pinpoint my family every time it's been a big day for me like i'll give you two examples right so uh the day i graduated boot camp was a big day and the day i got married was a big day also college graduation was a big day and every time i entered those junctures it was like wow i can't believe a up like you managed to successfully graduate marine corps boot camp or on my wedding day man i cannot believe a fuck-up like you managed to successfully graduate Marine Corps boot camp.

Or on my wedding day, man, I cannot believe your wife really settled for you. I don't know what you did, but good for you. Like, I never had a receiving line of love, you know? Yeah, you persevered. Look, this is a success story, your life. I think I just admitted a lot about my life in an uncomfortable way that I now wish you to move on from. Well, all right. Let's wish you to move on from. Well, right. Let's move on to the football field.

Weird things happen there, Luke. Look at this fan. I mean, when you're hungry and your team's winning, you might as well go after it, right? Is this cracker eating mayonnaise? Is that really what's happening here? Honestly, I feel like if you do this on camera, it's a hate crime. I'm just saying it out loud.

Oh, wow. Wow, all right. Let's go over to Auburn, Luke. You got to be careful when you want to rush the field and pull down those goal posts, right? Watch for the hedges. Oh, boy. Did Big Bertha just get lost in the vegetation there?

Yeah, she's not coming back from that. Wow. Wow, wow. Look at that. I she's not coming back from that. Wow. Wow, wow. Look at that. I think I see the head, Luke. Wow. Yeah, that's a BBL crime right there. Oh, wow.

All right, let's keep it going here, Luke. Let's go to the end. Hey, you always make fun of NFL fans, but what if they were like one of us, Luke? Just a slob like one of us. Look at the Saints fan. Is that you? There's a 100% chance this guy is going to die

because he rode his lawnmower on the highway without a helmet or something. Wait, can you make that same exact face and we go split-screen here, Luke? I think that might be you. Look at that. I'm not doing your party trick. Fuck you. Any asshole who's got gray in his beard and glasses is now me. Eat shit.

Yeah. You can go to the barber, Luke, and spend less than $100 and get that changed. In fact, let's head to the barber shop. What would it take? Virtually identical. Thank you, Mike. What would it take, Luke, to get this haircut for you for $100 or less next time?

I don't know how... Oh, the original Ronaldo? Muy fresco. Yeah, that's lame. Not very fresco, my G. Yeah, that's lame. I mean, that's lame here. All right, let's go to the next one, Luke.

This is Extreme Colors, but... Dude, they have stupid haircuts also? I mean, I have a stupid haircut. What are we doing here, fella? I got to say, his hair looks appetizing. I'm not going to say it doesn't. It looks delicious. Yeah, all right.

I mean, this dude definitely got his car repossessed in the parking lot when this went down, but his hair looks awesome. Well, Luke, you know, in other countries, they may not have the same ways and means as our American barbers, but they use any tool they can find, though, to get the job done. Okay. All right. What are we doing here? And we're outside of a dumpster, too.

Look at that. There's like a family of raccoons in there. All right. I even had haircuts in the field in the Marine Corps that weren't this barbaric. This is pretty barbaric. This is like 17th century dentistry. You know, that right there is enough. No, I think I think the line is that's not a knife.

This is a knife. Wow. Oh, look, we blew up the commode at malco but they they purchased us the lover's toilet to try to get us to work on our chemistry what do you think about this look we could play cards together we could arm wrestle during that that would be so gross i mean that's just disgusting wow okay, it's time for my favorite segment, MMA Fighters in the Wild. Let's hear from Michael Bisping. Them hoes, huh? Wow.

If you say so, brother. If you say so. Fuck them hoes. Look, they ain't loyal. They ain't. been right fuck them hoes words exactly i suppose if you're andrew tate or doing bits let's go to this sparring session uh izzy and dan hooker had ahead of the uh potato rematch luke your thoughts on this it got a little heavy here right nah dude you gotta work on this gotta work on that jesus or he's going a little hard he's going ham dude hey man he's making him get up

also i mean this is yeah we're getting hate crime territory here this is okay okay okay wild wild i'm teasing can i tease can we go to uh game bread boxing for a fashion uh evolution here pearl gonzalez two cards ago or last time uh debuted a a fruit roll-up top made entirely out of uh yeah there you go would uh would you would you look all right there you go. Would you, Luke? All right, there you go. There it is. I mean, you know the answer to that question. Please, please be serious.

And finally, Luke, former Bellator title contender, Emmanuel Sanchez showed off his new toy, an AR-15, Luke. That's America. That is, unfortunately, America. Oh, let's go over to the department store luke you got to be careful when the prices are this sizzling and red hot right

watch your step there hey goodbye all right there you go hey you know what maybe she went down to that place where luke skywalker and that other thing went and they have to fight the monster down there oh yeah and like the mirror and then they see themselves and then they see like their father. You should have, you should have like dubbed over a job of going, ho, ho,

ho. We need a soundboard so we can hit that Java. But yeah, there you go. Hey Luke, it's time to rate that tat. And speaking of Dan Hooker, we already rated his new legs,

but he, he got the back done. Did we do this yet too? I don't know if I saw his back. This but he got the back done. Did we do this yet, too? I don't know if I saw his back. This is aggressive, Luke. Whoa. It's a lot.

It's pretty good. Is it cooler than Volkov's back, you think? It's black and gray, so it's a little bit different, obviously. And his is also a cover-up. So it's different. I like it. I like it. I wouldn't get it personally, but I do like it. You've long said your favorite Nick Diaz performance is Takanori Gomi, correct?

I mean, that's top two. That or Daily or something like that. Those are his epic moments. Some 209 fan loves that fight so much. Look, they got a tattoo of it. Rate that tat. Yeah, that's a bad one. That's a two or a three at best.

Okay, all right. There you go. I can definitely say, yeah, it's really bad. That's just awful, unfortunately. luke let's get high what do you think let's go out to the uh desert uh i didn't know camels were this cool bc i have ridden a camel before oh yeah oh wow he's just gonna he's just gonna hot box this camel hell yeah oh look at that camel, bro. I like how this show just veers into stoner humor now. Yeah, it really is.

In fact, let's bring in Wiz Khalifa, Luke. He's got a firearm that is a little different than Emmanuel Sanchez here. I think you're going to be a big fan of it. Yeah, I mean, I'm all about the Second Amendment when we're talking about this. You're like, if the Jan 6 was to protect these rights, let me show up first. Can you imagine someone in the Malka crew being so amazing as to do this to us unannounced? You know how absolutely thrilled I'd be? Just coming up and just showering us with absolute barrels of marijuana smoke uh that move was uh first made famous by r kelly actually just not with uh not with smoke lewd glug with um yeah you're here in town yes

you are all right uh let's go over's pretty gross but uh what what a man have you ever been to uh wrigley field i did i was i told you before i was there the day alia died in 2001 day game centerfield bleachers sosa hit number 50 and 51 and uh i took my shirt off luke's i want to be a bleacher bum right that was my dream in life right and i got so much sunburn that i had uh i had like three inch high calluses and i still got marks from that experience luke i probably uh dodged a life bullet there but you know it is amazing it is an enormous indictment of my career that i ended up here with an absolute failure like you i gotta be honest about that yeah yeah a lot a lot of my life luke i i just lived and learned on the job you

know i just figured out as i go, it didn't work out so well. Finally, Luke, we got one more for you. You ever see a loose pussy on an airplane before? Luke, check this out. Oh, Jesus Christ. What the fuck? Oh, yeah, dude, I want to fly in this airline, right? This is great.

So on the flight back from Miami to D.C. returning from vacation, a lady brought a cat on the flight. Now, she didn't let it roam like this fucking stray animal, but that poor thing was... You know how cats have like a different... If you ever own a cat, you know they have very different meows, probably different things that they're experiencing. And it was doing this version. Whoa, whoa.

You know what I'm talking about? When like they're very worried and like stressed. It did that all two and a half hours yeah that's not fun i'd like do you are you into this new phenomenon of like these like coffee houses that that have cats running wild in them and you and you have to like the japanese have been doing that for a long time right i love it man they have this place in connecticut out in the boondocks and my family hates it and they won't come again with me but it's a retirement home for cats of rich people who put into their their living will that they would pay for the cat to live out the rest of its life so it's like a farm for cats widowed cats right of their owners and dude like you just go

into these houses, and there's, like, 50 cats all around. You just pay a donation, and you get to go in, and you can, like, hang out with the cats. I love it, Luke. I mean, I think it's the best, right? They got a senior wing, too. But my family's like, this is creepy, and it smells like pee.

But, I mean, both are true, but I enjoy that, Luke. I like to give back to the community, all right? So next time you come to D.C., like, I normally, I, like, never go to Georgetown. Again right so next time you come to dc like i normally i like never go to georgetown again this past yesterday my wife's like hey you want to go to georgetown for the french outdoor market yeah no i'm not i'm not going to georgetown ever if i don't have a reason to but uh they have a new cafe there called crumbs and whiskers yeah it's a cat cafe except all the the cats are there to be adopted. You can adopt any of the cats that are there. Dude, we should go do room service diaries from there or something, Luke.

You know what I mean? I think it's at like Ammon 30th, so it's like right at the edge of Georgetown. Or maybe it's a little bit further along. But anyway, it's a nice neighborhood. That's high-quality doc content waiting to happen if we still had a documentary team, Luke. Yeah. Yeah. What happened with that? I don't know i mean we're

lucky we're lucky to get uh dms with donks posts up i mean yeah we got it done though we got it done hey this was a pretty decent show luke when i get to bang our listeners for two hours i'm always pretty happy you know what i mean uh i love doing my monday show is my favorite show i love monday show it's by friday i've kind of checked out if i can be honest yeah yeah you're checked out a little earlier in the week but that's all right but monday i'm all in i'm all in uh let's remind everyone follow us on all the socials hey follow us on tiktok why don't you give us some uh some run there but you can follow us on tiktok on instagram on a bunch of different places morning combat then of course you can follow me in bc wherever you like you cameo.com

slash brian campbell lu. Everyone's going there. Everyone's doing it. You know what I mean? It's great. I should have paid you for one for Tukey's fourth birthday. By the way, I paid for a party that was absolutely a gigantic way. Here's what I should have done with that money. Did you get a clown?

Did you get a damn clown? No. Dude, if we had gotten a clown, it would have been like insanely expensive. It was too stupidly expensive as it was. I should have taken the money that i spent and just set it on fire and then made a tiktok video and then i've been i'd have been way happier i would have worked your party for free as the clown luke oh that'd be great i would then have to pay for your travel and then i don't want to do that yeah i'm not doing all

that anyway yeah it was a it was took you had a great time but i told her what you should do we'll never you should have a a kid's juj do? You should have a kid's jiu-jitsu party, bringing Ryan Hall to be the party host since you live near him. And your wife used to roll with Roxy Mataferi, Luke. This is not foreign. You've got to get Tukey up to tune on the real arts, right? So most of these jiu-jitsu places in town, don't think we haven't looked. We've looked. Most of them require your kid to be five so we're still one year away yeah it's not like she has yeah she is bigger she is bigger but

uh anyway i wasted a shitload of money on saturday and i'll never do that again but you'll never get that money back dude but you know the good news is tuki might remember one memory from this party that's a good news yeah oh no Oh, no. Here was the win. My wife put me in charge of catering. Now, BC, you got to remember, you got to make, you can only have food that like three and four-year-olds will eat. So that's a narrow amount. But here's what I did.

I catered Chick-fil-A and I catered a local pizza joint called lito's lito's pizza they make square pizzas that's pretty awesome i feel like that's a win i feel like that's a win did you consider going to that pizza place that was caught up in that political uh and uh oh comet ping pong yeah yeah you mean do you mean the place where there's absolutely nothing going on except yeah yeah that one that one uh there it's a fine place but it's on the other i don't live near there i live way on the other side of town so i don't really just i don't get over there very often so i just went to the places near me um that's all all right uh there we go all right bc uh let's remind everyone rashad rsd tomorrow room service diaries rashad evan 11 a.m in the east bc is it your favorite that we've done or what would you say yeah either that or anik and then again i really like paul craig it's on that

level at the very least okay and by the way we still got that phil derue one i hope we come out with pretty soon as well that was a lot of fun too so we're on a great roll but yeah the rashad one dude i've worked with rashad in podcast form and different versions for a bunch of years i love how freaking honest he is about the ups and downs, the good, the bad, the ugly, the rise and fall of men.

He has a new perspective on life, obviously from, from embracing the toad looking side of, of this world, Luke, and we do talk to him about that, but to hear him go, you know,

he plays the hits to hear him go fight by fight on the big moments and really retell the, the story of, of story of where he was and how he got there. It's great stuff, man. That guy's fantastic. I love him. I mean, is there anybody that doesn't like Rashad Evans, Luke? John Jones for a time, but even they, I think, have buried the hatchet. So, yeah.

Yeah, they did. So, that'll be out tomorrow. Then, as well, we did a Henry Cejudo resume review. Really had a good time with this one. Yeah, it's our best one ever. Let's be fair with that. I mean, he went from Olympian, so they didn't make the team, couldn't even make the Olympic team basically in 2012,

has this really actually inauspicious beginning in MMA and did really well up until he faced some losses and then transformed himself and then retired right at this like brilliant peak he had and now he's coming back at 36 it's like this amazing amazing totally unique run that he's had it's it's a great story to tell and I'm glad we did it we'll be obviously breaking down that fight the rest of this week one championship on Friday big interviews you can get at youtube.com slash morning combat demetrius johnson uh ace franklin rich franklin the vice president of one so uh big week luke big week again as always uh we got canelo this weekend we got ufc pay-per-view it's it's going

to be a fun one all right get get fired up yeah canelo pay-per-view ufc all kinds of stuff so thank you guys so much for watching a reminder showtime.com is the label that pays showtime.com 30-day free trial if you like it you can keep it if not you can bounce email the show morningcombat at gmail.com uh thanks to mulca and the showtime staff thanks to mikey morms and cbs and everyone there thanks to everyone who worked on the show big thanks to bc and whatnot we got content for you tomorrow don't go anywhere we got merch available as well no shout out to chuck mindenhall's hats the midlife crisis hats you can get them on the myth.com mith i wear one but i'm not trying to take his look luke you see sean shelby wearing this on saturday too and like five guys sitting

next to him all wearing yeah yeah maybe it's going out of cool style already so i gotta find another lame midlife crisis you know i don't like to i don't like that title because i'm like am i really mid halfway through it but statistically look i'm halfway there right more than halfway whoa look at this wow peaky blinders is back look at this this is great i'm gonna just do an australian accent one more time and be a complete american asshole like this that's not a knife this is a knife dude we look like we're about to go bird watching on an HBO real sports special with Ariel narrating it right that's what it looks like we're the ugliest

gay couple ever I mean that's really what we are just absolutely atrocious I think I'm a dashing gay man to be honest with you Luke you think you're a dashing you're the ugliest gay man I know that's what you are alright we're done here show's over that's Brian Campbell I'm I don't want to point that out. All right, we're done here. Show's over.

That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so much for watching. And until next time, may all your gains be loyal.