MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Sean Brady: Welterweight Division Breakdown, Next Opponents, Trash Talking | Morning Kombat RSD

Episode Date: May 30, 2022

Room Service Diaries is back and rising undefeated welterweight contender Sean Brady is in the studio to sit down with Luke and Brian. Brady discusses his rising MMA career, possible next opponents, g...rowing up in Philly, and more. Plus, he breakdowns the competitive welterweight division. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Dude, that's fucking dope, man. So excited to be joined on this couch by Sean Brady, because he's Philly tough, right? Brian and Luke didn't tell me much about this interview. I'm a big fan of the show, so these two are always going off the rails. Sean, I have to sit this close to you, not necessarily because I want, I have a heat-seeking booty, but because of the angle of the camera. This is a nice little setup you guys got. This is, this couch matches your drug list.
Starting point is 00:01:08 They put a rolled up $100 bill as one of the props, so we were like, yeah, it's a little too sketchy. I was waiting on you, Luke. Jesus, you look ridiculous. I mean, against that couch, I could not imagine a worse look for you. Jesus, could this fucking be me? I look like a polar bear riding a tricycle in this fucking thing. Come on, you got leg on there? Come on.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Jesus. Nice and cozy. Oh, that's so good. That is a very small... Yeah. Some of the very best rappers that I love, the best underground rappers,
Starting point is 00:01:47 come from the city of brotherly love, Philadelphia. And one of our favorite welterweights also comes from Philadelphia. It's my friend and yours joining us here for Room Service Diaries. It's Sean Brady. Hi, Sean Brady. What's up, Luke?
Starting point is 00:02:02 Sean Brady, how many times have people said to you, not from Philly, hey, how come you talk just like Eddie Alvarez? Um, a lot. A lot. That Philly accent is unique. Yeah, it's serious, but I guess we're proud of it. So you know how, like, if you're from Boston,
Starting point is 00:02:20 the joke is, Do you guys have, like, a Philly tongue twister around the accent? The way we say water, everyone makes fun of us. I say water. Water? I guess it's supposed to be water. Name the water. We say, I got my water in this little plastic,
Starting point is 00:02:38 in this little paper bag here. I guess it's supposed to be water, but yeah, that's one. There's a lot. There's a lot. All right, so are you born and raised Philly? West Philadelphia born and raised, okay? Northeast Philadelphia born and raised. On the playgrounds, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:51 I'm from like halfway in the middle. I'm from blue collar Philadelphia. How many batteries have you thrown at various baseball players at the stadium? Personally, not me. Some people I probably know, many. How many lampposts did you tear down When the Eagles won the Super Bowl? I've watched them grease them
Starting point is 00:03:08 And I've watched people climb them Yeah? Yeah How many times have you chanted Big Dick Nick Because of what he was able to do For the Philadelphia Eagles? We've chanted Big Dick Nick
Starting point is 00:03:17 Many times He's got that BDE That's why Nick Foles Nick Foles is incredible Well, listen Let's sort of recap here So you are not in the middle of a fight camp
Starting point is 00:03:27 But you did have the last win over Michael Chiesa How have things been since then? I know your septum was all fucked up Yeah, so I broke my nose so many times I can't tell People are like, you got your nose fixed But it still looks like shit
Starting point is 00:03:43 I'm like, well, the inside works So that's what matters But I got my septum. I'm like, well, the inside works, so that's what matters. But I got my septum fixed. I'm breathing. I've been back to training, and we're hoping to get a fight. But yeah, I beat Kiesa. I was still in the limbo of getting a fight, and we weren't hearing anything. So I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:59 Fuck it. I'm going to get my nose fixed. I haven't been able to breathe for a long time. And so that's where we're at now. That's 15-0. Yeah. So you're in that like, oh, shit, I'm coming on stretch of your career. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I don't get that much love, I don't think. Why not? What do you think? I don't know if it's like how the U.S. is. I feel like if you're from another country, no matter who you are, they support the shit out of their guys. If you look at Rachmaninoff, he doesn't say anything online,
Starting point is 00:04:31 but he has 300,000 Instagram followers. His people support him no matter what. I just feel like we have so many different sports and so many different athletes. I don't know if it's just hard to support everybody, but that's kind of how it is. If he ever actually acknowledged his Indian birthright, he would have that same following,
Starting point is 00:04:48 just to point that out fairly. But when it comes to... You're the world's dumbest man. When it comes to where you're at at this point, like, you're hungry. You want to prove yourself bad, but you got to wait your turn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:02 How do you, like, navigate that period? Is it just about, every day I got to do this? Every day I got to prove to them? Yeah, I love training more than anything in my life. You know, I really pride myself on just trying to get better every single day. So I don't have a fight, but I'm trying to get the best I can. I stay in shape 365 days a year. This is, it's my life, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Eat clean, bro. Yeah, eat clean,. That's uh, they're actually a company I know But now I seriously I just I just pride myself on getting better every single day And that's what I'm trying to do until I have a fight and once I have a fight I'm trying to test myself against the best guys in the world. Did you grow up? With that eye of the tiger When it came to playing sports Who were you in high school? I start
Starting point is 00:05:50 It's funny My high school didn't have I went to a trade school I went to a school for auto mechanics We didn't have a restaurant Did you go to a school for auto mechanics Because earlier in your life you got caught stealing cars? No, I never stole a car
Starting point is 00:06:03 What kind of dick question is that? Large man in a tiny chair. I mean, could this chair be worse? Could the chair be worse? I don't know. Never stolen a car in my life just to be clear. Successfully.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yes, yes, yes, yes. But no, I started training martial arts pretty young. I started in ninth grade. I started training Muay Thai. Then I found Jiu Jitsu. Ninth grade, what, 14 or 15? Yeah. What occurred to you to go to training Muay Thai. Then I found jiu-jitsu. Ninth grade, what, 14 or 15?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah. What occurred to you to go to a Muay Thai gym? Well, we all, like most kids in high school, they start lifting weights. We were lifting at a local rec, and a buddy of mine was doing jiu-jitsu already and doing Muay Thai, and he was younger than me, and his older brother trained too. And after school, they'd be walking to class in their gis, and we'd be fucking making fun of them.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, that's about the lamest fucking thing. I once saw a guy in a gi at a bus stop, and I was like, I hope the bus hits you. We didn't have guys with geese in my town, but we had the ROTC people, the people in the damn ROTC uniforms. We'd just make fun of them. All right, sorry to cut you off. They would walk to, it was called Semper Fi MMA, and they were training, and then they were like,
Starting point is 00:07:06 listen, you guys should come do it. So me, a couple of my buddies, and my younger brother all went. We did the two-week free trial, and I signed up. They all kind of fizzled out, and I stuck with it. And then I trained throughout all high school. I had my first fight when I was 19. I was 5-0 as an amateur, and I turned pro when I was 21. So how'd you get good at wrestling?
Starting point is 00:07:25 Just through MMA? Yeah, just through MMA. You never wrestled on a wrestling team or anything? Nope, never. People ask me all the time. They're like, where'd you wrestle at? It was just through MMA. So you're coming up in this blue collar town, almost like a factory town vibe it sounds like. Yes, except he's a man. That same intention.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Alright? You probably hung out on couches like this in basements, all right? I had a couch like this in my basement. Okay, but were you that kid that took chances and got in trouble and explored and experimented life, or were you focused that you were on your way to something while you were starting to have this success? Just to add on to that, you said you stuck around training
Starting point is 00:08:01 when your friends fizzled out. Like, why did you stick around? I don't know, to be honest. So I was like, when I got super serious about fighting was when I was 4-0 as an amateur, I was still going out on the weekends, drinking beers, like literally up until the weekend before my fight. Wearing drug rugs. Not doing drugs.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Stealing Camaros. Wasn't doing drugs. I was drinking beers though that's for sure literally the week before my fight I just didn't know anybody I was 19 years old and I was fighting and I was winning fights
Starting point is 00:08:33 and then I met Kristen and it was my last amateur fight this is your wife no we're married breaking news we are married and then um i was training with jonathan webb who was in the ufc paul felder was in the ufc but at the time they're all fighting for cage fury and they're like listen like if you're serious about this you can go somewhere with a career and uh so that was my
Starting point is 00:09:00 first fight i did a 12-week training camp no drinking no eating like an asshole i won first round submission and then that's kind of where it all started for me yeah what was the first time you met paul felder paul was coming from so there was this gym and uh all all these guys were coming out of there and their coach was kind of an asshole like super wouldn't let them go cross training with other people like really like, really controlling that Jersey guy, right? The term in jiu-jitsu is crayonche. Remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:28 He was very, very overbearing of these guys. So Paul was still fighting for CFFC, and he was looking to transition into a different team. And it was me, Daniel, Gracie. Daniel just moved to Philly. Our gym was just getting set up. Paul came over, and then it was kind of history. Paul came, Jonathan Webb came, and then it was kind of history. Paul came,
Starting point is 00:09:48 Jonathan Webb came, and then we had we kind of started. I guess what I'm saying is do you remember the first time you trained with him? Yeah. So the first, he just broke his nose, just got his septum fixed and John, Jonathan Webb came up to me and was like, bro, like this dude's a fucking hothead. Just keep your hands up when you
Starting point is 00:10:03 spar him. So literally every time anyone was sparring Paul, he would start throwing bombs on you, and his takedown defense sucked. So we were just taking him down and just ground and pound him and just submitting him. But over the years, it got better and better. So those takedowns became harder to get. But, yeah, long time for me.
Starting point is 00:10:22 It was hook, shoot, take Paul down, and beat him up on the ground because he was throwing wheel kicks at you, knees, elbows, and he'll tell you too. But yeah, he was a hard dude to deal with on the feet, but it made us all fucking super good. So boxing's got that Philadelphia fighter stigma that means toughness. Not a stigma, that's a badge of honor. Okay, but it means toughness, but it also has that other side of it
Starting point is 00:10:44 where sometimes too tough for your own good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a Meldrick Taylor. Is there something like that on the MMA side as well? I mean, or is it just, no, I know what I'm made of coming from Philly? I mean, kind of, because if you look at two of the bigger names
Starting point is 00:10:56 that came out of Philly, Paul and Eddie Alvarez, they built their careers on toughness, you know? Hard-nosed. About that life. Yeah, definitely about that life. And me and Eddie actually connected during the pandemic. Cause he was fighting for one.
Starting point is 00:11:09 And, um, I had UFC fights come up cause we were still fighting. So we trained a lot together. And, uh, where was he training when you first came up? Cause he was a big deal already.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Eddie was trained at the gym called the fight factory. That's right. Fight factory. He was going to have fight factory. And, um, then he eventually, he moved down to what was then,
Starting point is 00:11:29 it wasn't Stanford. It was... Hard Knocks or... Hard Knocks. Black Zillion. Black Zillion, yes. So he was at the Black Zillions and then he moved back
Starting point is 00:11:37 and was training with Frank Jaeger and Ricardo Almeida. That's right. Edson Barbosa was there. I could just have called him the East Coast Super Frank. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yup, yup, yup. So they had that whole thing going on but now he's we were all just training but yeah back to the Philly's definitely got some fucking super grit to them definitely got some tough
Starting point is 00:11:55 yeah but for boxing here's the thing about it I understand Philly boxing and it's community even though I'm an MMA fan more than I have a clear sense of Philly MMA just look at the Dawkus brothers Philly MMA no I have a clear sense of Philly MMA. Just look at the Dawkus brothers, Philly MMA. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It's not that Philly MMA is not there. They're there and then some. It's just that what is the Philly MMA community relative to the Philly boxing? And I'm being serious. Is it just along racial lines? It's weird. We all have our own gym. The Dawkus brothers,
Starting point is 00:12:24 I actually started training with them. We were all from that same gym, like the darkest brothers. I actually started training with them. We were all from that same gym, Semper Fi MMA. Like they were there when I went there, their coaches went one way, my coach stayed there. So they, they went to a different gym and I stayed at Semper Fi.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And now it's kind of, it's me, Jeremiah Wells, who's in the UFC, Pat Sabatini, Paul Felder, Pat's a hammer. He's probably one of the best guys
Starting point is 00:12:45 i've ever trained with regardless of size like he is the hardest round in the room and um he's another guy he gets no respect that he deserves he's four and on the ufc and nobody's talking about him but um yeah philly's it's taken a while to get where it's at like we're almost at a good spot where i feel like people are starting to recognize what's going on in Philly, especially with our team. But like you said, before that, it was just Eddie and kind of no one knew about Philly MMA, you know? But, um, it's always thought about as boxing. Yeah, get
Starting point is 00:13:13 about the lack of respect. Do you think it's, like, I mean, here's the thing about you and Pat. You guys also don't talk shit on social. You're not out there fucking banging pots and pans, you know? Pat's not big on social at all, either. And And honestly to Eddie's credit People would pick fights with Eddie on social But I don't really recall Eddie
Starting point is 00:13:30 Trolling anybody Not really not much Eddie's the same way he's kind of just built his thing off of Underground King And he's not on social media he's not huge on social media Neither is Paul I don't know I just feel like some people just have that thing It's just Conor's great at talking shit because that's in
Starting point is 00:13:48 him like and then you try to see all these guys implement it and they look like fucking idiots and it sounds bad like i don't want to be that guy pat doesn't want to be that guy so we just we win fights and then that's how we're gonna build who we are when you talk about not yet getting that respect maybe it it's, you know, the bigotry of fans that are intimidated by your aggressive ink. You know what I mean? No, no, no. You're full of shit.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Here's why I know you're full of shit. I don't have nearly the amount of tattoos you do, but even this big one I have here, when I take my daughter to, like, gymnastics practice, all the other kids look at me like a fucking Godzilla walked in the door. So I know people are... Obviously, I'm joking with you,
Starting point is 00:14:28 but you do have a very distinctive ink game already. You know what? In a sport that has a lot of shitty tattoos, but there are some alphas out there.
Starting point is 00:14:36 No, he's got some good ones. I love Josh Emmett's game. I like Michael Kiesa's game. Is he in the running, Luke? Yeah. For best ink in this game. Yes, he is. Can I see the inside
Starting point is 00:14:44 right bicep? That is... show the camera. That is, dude, look at that. That is extraordinary. Yeah, I'm actually getting, I'm getting this, I'm getting a lot of this stuff lasered, and I'm getting it all redone. Because, a razor covered, and then? I'm getting laser,
Starting point is 00:14:59 like, lightened up, and then blasted over. Damn. Because I'm, like, most people, they get tattoos when they're young and they don't know what they fucking like. Now I'm all about Japanese. This is all new school, all new Japanese. My whole body is pretty much Japanese. I'm trying to pull Japanese body suits.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Luke likes the technique. I love the color. No, no. The Japanese is tremendous. My left arm is going to be a full-on Japanese sleeve. When you got the hands covered, that's a real commitment covering your hands. And the back of your head's a real commitment, too. Which one was worse?
Starting point is 00:15:31 The back of my head was pretty bad. The hands actually aren't that bad. I have both my feet done. They're not bad. No, I got the inside of the wrist here was real spicy. They all hurt. The ass cheek hurt. You're not one of those guys. I have my ass cheek tattooed. Dude, I'd like to point out Brian Campbell's like, I don't get ass cheek hurt the ass cheek hurt you're not one of those guys I have my ass cheek tattooed
Starting point is 00:15:46 dude I'd like to point out Brian Campbell's like I don't get ass cheek tattoos Andy Ruiz and Sean Brady have ass cheek tattoos I'm going the right cheek's
Starting point is 00:15:53 going to be next if you asked full body if you said hey BC you know Luke a long time what does he look for in a man dude
Starting point is 00:15:59 ass tattoos ass tats he is texting me pictures of ass tats all the time going BC this is the technique that I'm looking for. So in Japanese tattoos, a lot of guys, they go from their back, they go down, and they cover the back of their butt. And that's like a big thing.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Okay, but that's got to be an uncomfortable acquisition, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not. I mean, that guy is down there thinking, I'm either going to change his oil or tattoo his ass. Like, I got one or the other, right? You know? Yeah, it's not. I don't like that look at all it's not it's not a comfortable spot to get
Starting point is 00:16:29 tattooed why do you want to be so tattooed like people ask me that I have my own answer what's yours yeah what are you hiding from uh I just thought I just love it I just love Japanese art um they're fucking they look cool and I just enjoy the process I I've never, what about you? I've never been into piercings. Yeah. Never into crazy hairstyles but I've always thought tattoos were Yeah. That was the way people decorate with, you don't wear a lot of jewelry either. Nope. I don't wear jewelry. I mean I got my wedding ring
Starting point is 00:16:56 but that's it. Nope. But I did want to decorate myself with tattoos. Yeah. And the age I'm at now and the style I like, good Japanese style tattoos is where I'm at. I know what I like. Okay, what's too far? Dragons, big.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Brother, because I say what's too far because Austin Vanderford has an aggressive throat tattoo. What's too far for you personally? There's nothing too far for me. For my mother. Inside the lips and shit. Oh, yeah, that's too far for me. For my mom, it's the front of my neck.
Starting point is 00:17:21 She's begging me not to do the front of my neck. And I want to... That screams things at people from a different generation. Yeah, for sure. I want to do the sides of my head to where my haircut's done. You can see it. Brutal. Sides of my neck, I'll do.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I'm going to try to hold off on the front of my neck. Luke's been trying to get me to get a teardrop or something next to my eye. I'm like, what does that mean? He's like, no, go to Harvard for it to be good. We've talked about neck tattoos. I'm with you. The front of the throat, the blasting of the inside of the throat, that is a lot. But I think the side of the neck is actually not so bad.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah, just like you're talking about doing with your arm, just like a singular piece. I would do like a big cat, like some kind of like cat on the side of my neck. Or I want to get a traditional style eagle on the side of my neck. That's what I was. Do you think enduring that pain does like build a deeper resolve in you?
Starting point is 00:18:09 Well, like me and my man Luke were talking about, I try to get down. Because I'm not part of that tough part. Listen, there's,
Starting point is 00:18:15 there's, it's 2022. There's numbing cream. It doesn't, it doesn't, doesn't do, it doesn't take all the pain away but it takes away
Starting point is 00:18:23 a good amount of pain. If, if they could lessen up childbirth, which they have thanks to drugs, where are we at with tattoos? Because that's what I tell my doctor every year at the checkup when he's like, you know, we could
Starting point is 00:18:33 do that this year. You know, we could figure out where you're at there. And I'm just like... Dude, look how many times he derails a conversation. No, but I mean that. Dick, balls, or butt. But I mean that. It's unbelievable sometimes I'm like maybe I just need to toughen up. Maybe I can start getting tattoos if I just toughen up Yeah, they think they're like oh, what if we did a bit where we look you go to Vegas?
Starting point is 00:18:52 And you go get like a flash tattoo off the wall. Yeah, wouldn't that be like amazing? I'm like yeah sure let's go Like it's not some Motherfucker, that's like going to get drive-through for me. Yeah You've gone out to get like run errands and come back with a tattoo? There's been times where I wanted to, is the point. But if you guys are going to pay for it, yeah, we can go fucking do that. My wife, Kristen, she doesn't even know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I got the Hania on my back, and that was over from there. What does she say about him? She just... She doesn't like my, she doesn't like to Hania personally. She's not,
Starting point is 00:19:27 can we get her a hot mic here? I mean, she's not a fan, but now she like loves everything else. But I come home with, I have so much shit done. She doesn't even know what's new, what's old.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So yeah, it's, it's all just getting covered up. How does she deal with your career? I think she deals with it a lot better than most people would. I think she sometimes might need to be she could be fighting instead of me. When she was
Starting point is 00:19:51 at the Apex, that was the first time she's seen me fight since the pandemic and she was motherfucking this, motherfucking that. I'm pretty sure Sean Shelby looked back and said damn, she's got a mouth on her. A true matchmaker. I'm pretty sure Sean Shelby looked back and said, damn, she's got a mouth on her. And Kiesa's wife was like right there. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I think this is right.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Isn't Eddie Alvarez's wife also like ultra aggressive? Yep. You can hear her screaming, Eddie! Like on the broadcast. Yeah, but it's more like, Eddie! She's reaching that stereotype out of you, Luke! Like, on the broadcast. Yeah, but it's more like, Eddie! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that a reach-out stereotype out of you, Luke?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah, she's screaming. No, no, no, no. I think it's, who was it? It was Carl, was it Carl Frampton's wife that was the same way? Or Carl Frotch? Frampton, what am I saying? Frampton, Carl Frotch.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Wasn't his wife, like, super loud? She was super hot, Rachel. I don't know about the... No, there was a boxer that had a wife like that, too. Yeah, Eddie's wife is the same way. But no, she, like I said, she's been with me since I was nobody, had nothing, amateur. So yeah, she's been along this ride with me,
Starting point is 00:20:53 and she deals with it very well. What about the injuries though, coming home with those? I honestly haven't had that many bad injuries. I get some stitches here and there. My nose, I broke my nose. Yeah, but you had the staph infection. That was literally, that was completely different because that was the first time I've
Starting point is 00:21:12 ever even had fucking staph in my life and it just turns out to be almost the worst case and I almost lost my leg because of it. But that was it. Yes, thank you for not watching our first interview. Here's the, that's a scar if you can see it. Is that where they ran the pick line? So the pick line was in my—
Starting point is 00:21:28 In your ribs or whatever? The pick line was in my bicep. Damn. So that was like the worst experience of my life. What a lot of people don't know is like I told you, that Chiesa fight, I was offered that. When I was still not even cleared the train, my ankle wasn't even— my incision was still open
Starting point is 00:21:46 because when they stitched me up, my cut was so big, they couldn't fully stitch it. So when they took the stitches out, I still had a big gash in my foot and I still had a pick line in my arm. So I couldn't, you're not allowed to sweat or do anything like that. So she would come home and I'd be riding my echo bike
Starting point is 00:22:03 in the fucking garage, in the garage. And I'd have fans on me, so I wasn't sweating and as soon as I start sweating I'll stop let my heart rate like calm down and I'll start ripping it again, but um yeah It was different breed different read right here being BC sweat walking up I don't know if the cameras picking up, but you were like okay, okay? The echo bike is designed to hurt you. I was dripping it right before I came here this morning. Okay, then, dude, to be fair, like, what is your drive at the moment?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Is it about proving people wrong? Is it about making the money? Like, what is the thing that is, like, pushing you to do this? I want to be the best me. Like, if you guys follow Paul, like, obviously I do. When I'm done fighting i'm fucking competing jujitsu i'm fucking running marathons i'm doing ironmans like i just i love putting myself in pain like i just enjoy it i love training and i just want to become the best
Starting point is 00:22:57 version of myself and there's no other sport to do it like martial arts because you can literally not you can't be the best at anything there's always new shit to learn there's always something you can get better at there's always you can get stronger. You can get more condition There's always something you can get better and that's what he likes his pleasure spike with pain Interesting way to think about it. Have you ever thought thought back like the tattoos will probably fit into that right even with Yeah, they still fuck. Yeah. Oh, yeah Have you ever thought about like why it is that you like embracing like quite literal pains? I don't know I just enjoy it. I don't know. I just enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I enjoy it. I love, like even I don't have a fight coming up and I'm sparring twice a week. As you can see, I got a black eye. I got a fucking sort of seat. Training hard. And I just love just hard fucking training. There's nothing better. It's interesting though.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Like because this is to me, maybe we always talk about like, oh, fighter versus athlete. And you know, good athletes can make good fighters. You are clearly a good athlete. You know that about it. But, dude, if you don't have that embrace that you have, I don't give a shit if you're EOL Romero athletically. You know what I mean? Yeah, I've seen guys come in who are good athletes. And like you said, good athlete doesn't mean you're going to be a good fighter.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And you have to have that fighter in you. If you're an athlete, it's going to help. But there aren't many guys who come in and they're like, oh yeah, I'm a really good athlete. And if you don't have at least a little bit of that fighter in you, you're not going to last. Because once you have hard rounds, once you get tired, you're just going to quit
Starting point is 00:24:17 and you're not going to want to be here anymore. Are you at the point in your career where you're still, in some of your victories in your mind, just outworking people? Obviously at this level, you have to outthink people as well and then sometimes you just have to be you know ability to just make things happen in the moment whatever but like do you still feel like you're just out desiring people in the cage yeah um i think that i haven't even shown a fucking i know a lot of guys say this i feel like i haven't shown a tenth of what my coaches and my training partners know that I'm capable of.
Starting point is 00:24:45 My mind is still catching up to my physical, if that makes sense. Yeah, because to be clear, you handled Chiesa with an ease that even if people had picked you coming in, I'm not sure they expected. Yeah. Well, honestly, I thought that fight was going to be a lot easier than it was, but I broke my nose and I couldn't breathe. I lost one, maybe two minutes of a 15-minute fight and I'm fucking sick with myself
Starting point is 00:25:10 about how that went. I wish I could do it all over again and finish Kiesa, which I think I would. But your mindset is about just essentially mastering yourself and getting a very and if that leads to a UFC title. I know the best me can finish anybody in the top 15, in the top 10, in the top 5.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And I know I can be a UFC champion. I just got to get the opportunities to do it. Let's talk about some of these guys. What did you make of Hamzat versus Gilbert Burns? Man, it was... I seen a lot of people giving Hamzat shit because he had a tough fight. I feel like people thought Hamzza was going to go in there and fucking shoot lasers out of his eyes like he's not he's not he's a human like he's yeah he's very
Starting point is 00:25:51 very good and he mauled a couple of guys who weren't that good and skill but gilbert like i knew that was not going to happen like go down like that i knew it was going to be a tough fight and i knew gilbert was going to take it to him and he fucking did. Hamzat looked great to go in there being number 11 to beat the number two guy. That's a big fucking jump and he looked great. How many people do you think could have done exactly what Gilbert
Starting point is 00:26:16 did in that fight? Be that freaking savage and keep pushing that and take on that damage. In our division, not that many. Hamzat's beating most of the guys in the division 100 but uh not me you know um I think I can beat all these guys and uh I think we're gonna go like this until we meet each other and it's definitely gonna happen part of you saying you know you haven't had a chance yet to show how great you can be is that particularly angle
Starting point is 00:26:40 that spar at your striking at your at your um or or do you think you've shown it well as well balanced as you could attack um i just feel like uh it's when you go in there and you fight it's there's not it's the weirdest experience of your life it's so hard to explain because it doesn't it's not like i train and i pretty much fight every single day. And there's nothing that can compare to an actual fight when you're in the octagon. I'm just saying as once my, like, once I can do what I do in training inside the octagon, I don't think anybody can beat me in the world.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Let's talk about some other ones. Hamzat, actually, we talked about how good he was. Give me your scouting report on him now. He, man, he's obviously, people talk about how big he is. I don't think he's that big. He's just tall. Like, Chiesa's a big guy. Neil Magny's a big guy, but they're tall.
Starting point is 00:27:37 They're not, like, he's not fucking 210 pounds. And for folks who don't know, you've trained with Neil Magny. Yeah, I've trained with Neil Magny. He's a big guy. He has good striking. Obviously, he a big guy. He has good striking. Obviously, he has good wrestling. He has good submissions. He's very well-rounded everywhere.
Starting point is 00:27:53 He doesn't have many holes, but he showed in that fight, which I already knew, he's a human being, and he can be hit. He can be hurt. He can be rocked. He can be essentially finished.
Starting point is 00:28:03 If that fight would have had two more rounds, it was super close. If they would have said Gilbert Burns, I would have been completely fine with that. It was a super close fight. I think two more rounds would have showed more. I think Gilbert would have kept putting that title. I agree with him. I don't think anyone's talking
Starting point is 00:28:19 about it. That's actually a pretty good point. Gilbert could have gotten the decision there. No one really talking about that. When that fight was over, we were watching it, and I was like, I don't know who won. I was like, either way, I'm happy with it because it was a great fucking fight, and they deserved it, but I thought Gilbert could have got the decision
Starting point is 00:28:35 just as easy as Hamza did. Let me defend Hamza in the following sense, which was, you know, I think we both agree, he kind of fought like a jackass. Yes. If he fights a more disciplined game... Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. Part of that, maybe he ruins his own ferocity but it has to help his chances yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:28:49 um he definitely didn't fight the smartest way he could but maybe he just has that in him like that he just wants to go in there and that's he just fucking that's what comes no we never seen that so we never we don't know if that's how he's going to fight every single time somebody does crack him you know because that's got that's how paul going to fight every single time somebody does crack him, you know? Because that's how Paul Felder is in the gym. Like, you hit him with a good shot, he wants to hit you with like four more shots harder than what you just hit him with, you know? He sounds like a nightmare to Spar.
Starting point is 00:29:15 He wants to hit you right in the iron lung, yeah. He was fighting Edson the first time, and the UFC was there filming for UFC countdown, and one of my teammates came up to me because that was his next round and he said, keep your hands up, bro. He's throwing wheel kicks. I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So I already knew what I was getting myself into. But no, Hamza's the truth. He's super legit. Our division is great and I can't wait to test myself. What about this Kamaru Usman? Kamaru Usman, yes. I mean, he's raised his game.
Starting point is 00:29:44 You have to give him that respect when you see him though are you focusing on holes that you think you can exploit yeah yeah i personally i don't think kamaru is going to be around much longer i think he's going to have like one or two more fights and i think he's going to ride off into the sunset um he's done everything already you know i don't feel like he he's i could like he's talking everything already. I don't feel like he... He's talking about boxing Canelo. I feel like once you start saying shit like that, you kind of are already thinking about other stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:12 But as far as a fighter, Kamaru is great. He has great wrestling. He has... This guy's so uncomfortable. This is the worst chair in America. There's a loose spring on that chair that does a little how's your father if you stand at the wrong angle.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's going to shoot him into the air. Go ahead, yes. No, Kamara's, but same thing. He's the pound profound best because of how good he is. And nobody thought he was going to knock out Mazda all the way he did. And he fucking starched them.
Starting point is 00:30:38 So, yeah, I'm just excited. I'm excited to be part of a fucking division that has all these good guys. But like I said, I think I match up well against everybody. What about Colby? Because the debate about Colby is obviously he has done some good stuff in terms of being his fighting ability, especially winning over Masvidal. But short of being Masvidal, he hasn't beaten hardly anyone in the top five
Starting point is 00:30:59 in quite some time. Yeah, it's funny you said that. I never even realized that until someone said it. I'm like, damn, he doesn't have a single win besides Masvidal over anybody in the top ten. But same thing with Colby. He's good, but I remember watching RDA fight him. And Colby, he's really good at being the hammer. But once you kind of put like, RDA took him down a couple times. I'm like, damn, that's something nobody's ever tried to do to him.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Even Usman. Usman never shot on him in those two fights. What if Usman would have shot on him, took him down and could have finished him potentially, you know? So yeah, I look at it a whole different way. Like RDA took him down very easy off the cage. And I'm like, that's something not many people are, not many people are shooting on the, wrestlers are really good at being the wrestler
Starting point is 00:31:41 when they're offensive. They're not very used to being the defensive guy when you start putting the pressure on them. So, yeah. All right, one more for me. What about Shavkat Rachmanov? Oh, you love Shavkat Rachmanov, Luke Thomas. Undefeated as well.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Oh, yeah. Sean Brady's undefeated, so is Rachmanov. He's amazing. His striking's great. He throws wheel kicks. He does all kinds of crazy shit. He has amazing. His striking's great. He throws wheel kicks. He does all kinds of crazy shit. He has submissions. He's almost like a Hamzat, but without the height, you know?
Starting point is 00:32:11 I actually think he's skill for skill better than Hamzat. So, yeah, he's— He's pretty special. Yeah, he is. He is. What do you think could end up being the fight that takes you to the next level? And everyone, when they're rising and they're a contender and they're unbeaten or unbeaten in the UFC, you end up with that fight. Sometimes it's a bigger name on the comedown, but what do you think could end up being that breakthrough fight for you?
Starting point is 00:32:36 I think the fight that makes the most sense would be me and Luque at this point. I'm nine. He's six. He's— You're nine? Yeah, I'm nine. Didn't you beat number six at Chiesa? Yeah. So why the fuck are you
Starting point is 00:32:48 nine? Why don't you ask the UFC, Luke? I don't care. Luke was telling me it's other media members, so we need to hash that out. You see who shows up at these UFC press conferences and ask the media questions, okay? I'm like, yo, why'd you motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:33:04 put me at nine? Yeah, put him on the spot for free. Um, no, I think me and Luque would be a great fight, though. I think that's what makes the most sense, because like I said, most guys, everyone just wants to fight ahead of them, which, I mean, I'm trying to do, too, you know, but, um, I wanted to fight Wonderboy. He kind of pretty
Starting point is 00:33:20 much just said, fuck that, which I respect. I mean, I don't think he said fuck that, to be fair. Just, you know, Wonderboy, he didn't swear. I mean, what the hell's wrong with you? He didn't swear, but he essentially said fuck that. He said fuck that shit. So, but no, me and Luke, that's what I'm hoping
Starting point is 00:33:36 for. For Thompson, that's God bless you probably. It's just like, you know, thank you, sir. God bless Sean Brady, his whole family, no thanks. I know, but the point about Wonderboy, it's dude, I mean, Wonderboy's almost a 40-year-old man. He should be fighting, sir. God bless Sean Brady's whole family. No thanks. I know, but the point about Wonderboy, it's dude, I mean, Wonderboy's almost a 40-year-old man. He should be fighting basically whoever he wants.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I agree, but at that point, if you're going to be like that, I don't think you should be in the rankings. I don't think you should be holding, because what's the realistic, what's the point of being in the rankings? It's to eventually get into the top five and get a title shot.
Starting point is 00:34:02 If you're holding up spots like that, go off, do the Nate Diaz's, do the Nick Diaz fights, do all that shit, but let us younger guys who are trying to make our names, make our money, make our way up, let us do what we're trying to do. It's surprising. How have you never crossed paths with Bilal Muhammad? We were scheduled to fight in December of 2020,
Starting point is 00:34:22 and I was coming off of a fight in August, and I had a a fracture in my smaller I think it's your tibia your fib I had a little
Starting point is 00:34:31 I had to pull out of the fight regardless but um yeah so that's I thought we were gonna collide again after that but it just hasn't happened yet has his success
Starting point is 00:34:39 surprised you at all I have to say like he yes he has definitely exceeded my expectations I've been wrong, and I will acknowledge it up front. And he's put himself in a good spot. He doesn't skip chest day
Starting point is 00:34:49 at all. He's fucking yoked, bro. He's fucking yoked. I remember he was getting ready to fight Lyman Good, and I was like, this is going to be a fucking beatdown. And he beat Lyman, and I was like, holy shit. And then he kept winning, kept, like, the Damian Maia fight
Starting point is 00:35:05 and then obviously the Leon fight ended, didn't end the way anyone wanted it to end but then the way he beat Wonderboy and then what he just did to Luque was definitely the most impressive so I'm super impressed by him to beat Luque the way he did was very impressive you're on the rise
Starting point is 00:35:21 but you also know how this game works and I'm sure if somebody called you out, you would have no problem getting into a trash talk war. But do you feel the push to be like, man, I could make my name if I start talking about Usman's kids. If I start, you know, if I start, if I start, I'm not saying do the full on thing. Jesus, Brian.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I'm not saying. You gotta go commit arson right now. Yeah. I'm not saying. Yeah. You know. But do you feel that that itch once in a while to like, because that's the currency in this game that can also get you far. You can hate on it all you want, but one thing works. It works. But I did it with, I nicely called out Wonderboy,
Starting point is 00:36:00 and I got fucking burned for it by all these people. I'm like, dude, I'm number nine. He's seven. I'm just trying to get a fucking fight I'm like, dude, like, I'm number nine. He's seven. I'm just trying to get a fucking fight. And all these fans are like, you're calling out. Like what you just said. You're calling out an old dude who just got beat up by Balal. I'm like, I'm just trying to get the next fucking guy ahead of me.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Like, that's all I'm trying to do. And so I'm like, you know what? Fuck this. I'm just going to do it. You get to a point, like Luke gets to, where he's like, fuck my fans, my viewers, all the people that put money in my pocket. I don't care about your opinions at all. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:36:27 No, no. You should care what the fans say, or at least you should be somewhat aware of it. You just can't. It's not gospel. Yeah. It's not gospel. I also don't want to like,
Starting point is 00:36:39 I come from a group like, I don't want to be the guy. I don't want to sell out of who I am, like who my parents know who I am. My wife I am, who my parents know who I am, my wife, my brothers, my family know who I am. I'm not going to become someone I'm not just to make it to the top. I'm going to make it to the top by winning fights.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Whether it takes me a little bit longer, it is what it is. When is that moment, as we talked about your sort of background, that you were like, oh shit, I could do this sport, but that I could potentially be a future champion because you need that moment early enough
Starting point is 00:37:07 to give you that next level drive. Like when did that sort of hit? When I was 20, 21 years old and I was training with all pros, I was still an amateur and I was doing very well. And they're like, listen, stay dedicated, keep doing what you're doing and you can fucking be a champion.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And I've been with the same, Daniel Gracie's been my coach for the last 10 years I've been with the same coaches for I never left Philadelphia And that's something I pride myself on I could go to any one of these super gyms And just say Fuck my city
Starting point is 00:37:35 Fuck my little team that I have But they got me where I am I'm loyal to them, you know And I feel like we have a good thing going in Philly And I feel like it's just going to get bigger and bigger And I'm going to be the first UFC champion from Philly fighting out of Philadelphia. When did you know that you were a good athlete before fighting?
Starting point is 00:37:54 When I first, well, it really, when I first started lifting, I was like, all right, I'm pretty strong, and then I fell in love with, like, if I didn't fight, I'd be 100% a power lifter. Like, I blew out my back doing straight bar deadlifts, like almost pulling 600 pounds when I was, like, 22 years old. I see you're a maniac. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, my therapist tells me, Luke, I'm addicted to the chaos of life.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Okay? Yeah. She said that? Yeah. This guy's addicted to, I'm trying to figure it out. It's not just people. He's not a sadist. Suffering.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He likes... Well, the challenge. You're a competitor. I've switched over to trap bar deadlifts, by the way. So I'm still pulling in the fives, but only on the trap bar. Okay, a real man, true or false,
Starting point is 00:38:37 if needed, can wear a damn pair of gloves to lift weights. It's not a big deal. Listen. Calluses be damned, right? No, no, no, no, no. Listen. You do not wear gloves. You do not wear gloves when you lift weights. It's not a big deal. Listen. Calluses be damned, right? You do not wear gloves. You do not wear
Starting point is 00:38:48 gloves when you lift weights. I'm not saying I have since I was 17, but I did at some point. I don't care what you do with your hands. You do not wear those mitts when you're lifting weights. See, Brian, you like to discount me. I'm not Sean Brady. I'll never be that kind of thing. But I've been around a lot of them my whole fucking life,
Starting point is 00:39:04 bro. I've seen what they do. Tell that to Conor McGregor. Tell that to Bruce Buffer. Real motherfuckers lift with their bare hands. That's right. Period. End of story. Jorge Posada of the Yankees
Starting point is 00:39:14 said he used to piss on his hands in the offseason to get it hardened so he can grip that bat more. Let's see how man you are. I'm not pissing on my hands. Yeah, I'm not urinating on my hands yeah I'm not urinating on my hands I'll urinate on your hands
Starting point is 00:39:25 or your face you're like I'm R. Kelly in this equation alright no more that's it so getting back to the Philly thing
Starting point is 00:39:33 for just a second the Philly boxing side of things the interesting part about it is when I was your age so 29 that must have been what was that 2009
Starting point is 00:39:39 I was 29 the MMA and the boxing worlds were not very mixed at all and now we're getting a little bit Where it's a case where we are So one of the guys who fights on Showtime
Starting point is 00:39:48 Is Jaron Ennis Who is I've been saying this for a while You watch him compete He has just extraordinary talent You've known him for some time How did you end up meeting Jaron Ennis? So I was at that gym
Starting point is 00:40:01 Semper Fi MMA And the owner Julio Rosario K knew Bozy, which is his father. And he came in. He started teaching boxing classes, and Boots was coming in. And it had to be— How old was he at this point? I was a teenager, so Boots was maybe 12. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Because I'm 29. He's 24, 25, so he's four years younger than me. So he was maybe 12 years old and he was like already getting into the stage of he was fighting amateur and he had a great amateur record and then over the years he used to hold pads for me all the time
Starting point is 00:40:35 and then he started fighting professionally and was just rallying so he didn't have the time to do it but everyone always said he's a special talent because his brothers were both good his dad was a boxer but all that knowledge just went down to him and he has the hard work the dedication like all he does is box he looks like a virtuoso it looks like he's creating ideas
Starting point is 00:40:55 on the fly yeah yeah he he fucking loves it and he's i think he's going to be like the next big thing for sure he's got a style he's almost like a maybe this isn't right brian if it's not tell me i'm wrong he's almost a somewhat flashier bud crawford a little yeah i mean something like that you know yeah this he's the type of fighter and i've heard it said where when they go hey roy jones is anybody out there look like roy jones these days and you know he would mention a boot tennis or arteo female because these guys just feel like they can jump through the screen with, with the,
Starting point is 00:41:26 with the ability to do what seems like a simple punch, but they make it extraordinary. They leap in the timing, the angles, man. Yeah. He's legit. And you know,
Starting point is 00:41:33 Danny Swift Garcia still showing, still holding the, that, that strong ex champion Philly. Yeah. When you look at boots and it's just effortless, like he goes from Orthodox to South Paul and he's just good both stances and he's big for
Starting point is 00:41:47 147 and these dudes don't want to smoke, but somebody's gonna have to get it from him. What's his reputation in Philly? That he's just the best thing that's ever came out of Philly. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Even better than Rocky. Even better than Cool Boy Steph. Alright, come on. Cool Boy Steph trains at the gym
Starting point is 00:42:03 too with him. So they're, they got a good thing going on. Have you ever heard Bill Burr's rant on Philly? Yeah. It's hilarious. Dude, the whole bit about Joe Louis, the statue of Joe Louis, that's maybe the best dagger. Wasn't he in Philly or didn't he?
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yes. Well, it was a comedy festival. So it wasn't just him. And they were like booing him or some shit. He was like, oh, fuck you guys. This is my best recollection, but it was the Opie and Anthony tour where they would tour.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And Patrice O'Neill was part of it. Jim Norton was part of it. And I guess something had gone wrong during the set in Philly and they were booing him because, you know, y'all do. Yeah, that's what we do. And he was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:42:37 Let me turn the tables on you bitches. Do people in Philly talk about the Bilbo roast? It's quite famous. I think it's hilarious. People talk about it, but we think it's fucking hilarious. I watch it, and I literally piss my pants watching it. It's fucking so funny. Are you aware of this, BC?
Starting point is 00:42:54 Yes, I am. It's a good watch. It's a good watch. You know, of course, Philly is known for other famous comedians like Bill Cosby, so why don't you back off? Anyway. Oh, Jesus. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:43:04 How, up to this point, do you feel you've navigated that other side, the business side, the negotiations, the, you know, public branding, any kind of leverage you can get? You know, this is a fertile time with all the fighter pay talk, of course, but do you feel like you have gotten learned quickly to where you need to be to navigate that side of it too? No, because I feel like that also, I mean, I could definitely be doing better than I am because that also falls into the uh you you there's only so
Starting point is 00:43:30 many hours in a day you can only focus on so many things that matter and to me what matters is my actual skills my nutrition my sleep the shit that actually is going to win me fights and uh keep me healthy long enough so i can fight until i'm as long as I want to do it. When you get on social media and you're sitting there for hours trying to create content and do all these things, that's taking away from being an actual fighter. And I'm an actual fighter. And that's what I'm focused on.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Okay. Okay. You're Irish? Yes. I have grandparents from Ireland. Yes. Yes. I'm American. I'm American. I'm American. Okay. You know?
Starting point is 00:44:07 Do you have a dream to headline in Philly? Yeah, that's what I... A lot of MMA fighters don't get the headline in home. Wells Fargo is what I would love to do, but I don't know when the fuck they're coming back to Philly. When is the last... Serious question. When is the last big fight in Philly?
Starting point is 00:44:22 The last UFC was 2019. It was Edson Barbosa versus Justin Gaethje. Justin Gaethje, that's right. And on the boxing side? Been a while. Why? Holy shit. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:44:34 They have a strict commission. They have a strict commission. It's part of it, but, you know, I don't think the tax laws are laxed enough to try to draw people in either, you know? Yeah, the commission, I've heard they've given, like, to UFC problems and shit like that. So they're not— Notoriously tough boxing.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Not big on coming back. Yeah, I guess so. Still, it would be cool, right, to— Yeah. Well, like, me, like, Paul always said he would come out of retirement to fight at Wells Fargo again. Oh, really? Yeah, so, like, me, Paul Felder, Pat Sabatini, the Dawkins brothers, like we would fucking run house on that shit.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Like I just don't know. You got Jersey fighters. You got Frankie Edgar. Like we have so many guys. Yeah. How do you think Felder's transition to the mic? Obviously, we all know he's good, but do you think he's climbing like
Starting point is 00:45:20 becoming literally one of the best? I think he's one of the best because like I said, like I always say about Luke, when I listen to him, he knows what he's talking about. He can break stuff down. People like me who actually train and fight, I can relate to him. Paul's the same way, but he also
Starting point is 00:45:36 relates to the casual fans. He breaks it down in such a way where the casual fan can understand it too. I think he's doing great. I'd say what Paul does for me is a lot of times I see the commentators talking a lot about narrative and I'm not saying that's, that's not correct. Like what's happening in the larger perspective of things.
Starting point is 00:45:50 He's the guy who makes sure they don't miss the real important detail of what is actually driving the action. Yeah. Digging like an under hook and like, there's like certain, like he breaks down the details in a way that he doesn't go overly. He definitely makes sure that like, we're not just talking.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Sometimes they'll just start talking about, hey, man, y'all remember when we had that great dinner at the Silver Diner? It's like, DC, what the fuck are we doing? Felder's the one who's like, oh, right, so you don't have that wheel of kickland? It's because you moved into it. I'm like, ah, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, he brings it back,
Starting point is 00:46:19 and he's doing all the triathlon shit right now too, so he's a madman. When you found out he was an actor like a like a stage actor were you like dumbfounded yeah we uh we found some pictures of him with like some makeup on his face and we were fucking dying like this was like 10 years ago i was like 20 we're like what the fuck is this i think some of them came out on twitter like people were trying to roast him about it but he didn't give a shit. But I think that's exactly what helped him transition into his role is, I guess, that acting
Starting point is 00:46:50 because doing shit behind the camera, it's hard. That shit's hard. It's not for everybody. It's definitely not. And Paul... We've been in the trenches, John Brady. Paul does a good job, just like you boys.
Starting point is 00:47:02 All right, go ahead. No, no, you first. I got half a steak on this show. Yeah, go ahead All right, go ahead. No, no, you first. I got half a steak on this show. Yeah, go ahead. Producer. The Cage Walk. That's got to be
Starting point is 00:47:11 a, like, otherworldly, surreal experience. You know, your song playing, they're screaming your name. What is your song? Is that...
Starting point is 00:47:18 It's a Meek Mill song. Meek Mill song. Okay, all right. Is that like a shit your pants moment or is that like a I'm ready to run through the wall moment?
Starting point is 00:47:24 Because, and I don't say that because you're scared, but you're human. Everybody's going to have to push away. It's a little bit of both, honestly. But for me, the scariest part is that walk. But as soon as I get in the cage, I'm like, all right, this is what I do. It feels natural.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I do this all the time, and I just got to believe in myself and get this get the job done Yeah, sometimes we talk to the athletes and they have the shit their pants moment, but dude. There's a few of them man Yeah, they love it. Yeah More than tolerating it they love yeah My producer Manish would really like to know if you're talking about dreams and nightmares by Meek Mill no it is um It's uh DJ Cal and Meek Mill. They, it is DJ Khaled and Meek Mill. They don't love you no more.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So I did it my pro debut, and I never changed it because I'm like super superstitious. Is that how you say it? Yeah. The only thing, I'll never change my song. Everything else, I don't give a shit about. 15 pro fights, 15 times, that song was played every single time.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Never changed it. You know what? I like Meek Mill. He's done some stuff with Wale out of DC. Yes, yes, yes. He's done some good stuff together. Yes. He has done some Wale.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Thank you, adult white male. Thank you. Wow. He has some Wale for sure. Do you play the basketball by any chance? Hey, listen. Listen. You do listen to MK a little bit.
Starting point is 00:48:41 That's kind of crazy. Most of the time, we bring fighters in here and they're they're like I'm sorry I don't know who you are No Glover Teixeira at some point Was like No no We had Glover Teixeira here He remembered my face
Starting point is 00:48:52 Yeah He remembered my face But at some point I even was like Man I live you know Not too far from you Grew up from where you live He's just like
Starting point is 00:48:58 Okay cool Yeah alright Alright alright What's the next topic here We know you're a big MK guy So I don't think you're gonna Show up at the next UFC press conference Wearing a drug a big MK guy, so I don't think you're going to show up at the next UFC press conference wearing a drug rug,
Starting point is 00:49:07 but we did... Let me call room service to get that here. Our staff here did outfit you with a bag, a drug rug, and some other MK merch that you can... I've heard about the drug rug through you guys, so... Feel free to... It's pretty legendary. ...deposit it in the garage.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Should I open this up now? You know what? I think you guys should be drug rug brothers. How about that? I think you should just see, because here in the couch. Should I open this up now? You know what? I think you guys should be drug rug brothers. How about that? I think you should just see because here's the thing. I need to ask you this about where you come from, Sean, because where I come from the heroes were this. Okay. The
Starting point is 00:49:35 guys that people looked up to, the guys that people wanted to be. Another hoodie. There it is. What I'm really looking for is this. There we go. Oh, he's got a little green on his So do I We're gonna be like the No you got more like shit brown
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah I do have a little shit stain color But you know Oh look at this Here we go Look at this you know Now you can sit in row 8 on Delta When you wear that You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah Alright I know you're married But if you weren't I mean what a sex machine this guy would be. Look at this guy. It was our anniversary yesterday. By the way, same wedding
Starting point is 00:50:12 anniversary as I have. I'm wondering if your wife thinks this increases the testosterone look, you know, the man look. Yeah, that seems to be his problem, BC. Real testosterone deficient. Well, I was going to say, my test just dropped probably 400 points. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:50:27 But one more thing, Sean. You know, they don't have a great food spread here for celebrities as you already saw. But they purposely fill me up with Brazilian nuts. You want to know why? Because we got a low-T staff here. Like, there's no question. Like, look at them. But they find out that this raises your T.
Starting point is 00:50:41 It's true. I think one guy got a girl pregnant immediately after. Immediately after eating the nuts. All right, before we wrap up here, you're going to break my heart and tell me you don't know
Starting point is 00:50:49 who Jedi mind tricks are? I do. Okay. Not huge into them, but I know who they are. You fucking. What are you doing to me, Sean? It's like the one,
Starting point is 00:50:58 well, there's two redeeming things about Philly. You and fucking Jedi mind tricks. All right. I'm going to have to get on my Jedi mind Tricks for sure. Sean, what is the goal for 2022, man?
Starting point is 00:51:09 Like, I know you don't have a fight, but when do you... I mean, I guess you don't really know, but you're ready to fight, basically? Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready to fight. We're looking like July timeframe, so it still looks good.
Starting point is 00:51:18 That's what we're hoping for. I want to be in the top five by the end of the year and knocking on that door for number one contender by the end of the year. That's my goal. So when Glover was here, we told him that if he won his fight, he had to come back here and drink with us,
Starting point is 00:51:33 which he said he would do. Okay. Now, you don't have much real estate left, but if you win your next fight, if it's Luque or whoever it ends up being, I might make my way to Philly. I might get some ink with you, and we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:51:43 How's that sound? Listen, if you want to set up a tattoo for me, I might get some ink with you and we'll talk about it. How's that sound? Listen, if you want to set up a tattoo for me and I'll set up the tattoo. You come up. Showtime will pay. Showtime will pay. My boy Matt Landon will tattoo us. We'll drink and we'll get tattooed.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And we'll film it. And BC, would you get tattooed? What will they allow me to put in my body before the tattoo process? You can do whatever you want. You're not supposed to drink, but you can definitely get high. I know the tattoo artist. You can drink. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:10 It's a private studio. We can drink. Look, you know, is Sean Brady only hanging out with us because we have cameras? That's a question. But if we get to that point, if we get to that, and obviously because of the drug rugs, I'll do it. I'll man up. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I'll be the, you know, I once said 250,000 subscribers and I'll get that ink. How about, how about hanging out with, he beats Vicente Luque. I'm getting it. How about hanging out with this unbeaten? Well, deal.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Okay. All right. Deal. That'll, we don't need them Brazilian nuts. That's already raised my tea. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Sean, thank you for making the effort here for sure. Can't wait to see what happens next. Yes, sir. Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas, BC,
Starting point is 00:52:41 LTSB, MK. This has been room. Let's go. Drug looks good on you. B-C-L-T-S-B-M-K. This has been Room for Disguise. Drug rugs. Let's go. Drug rugs for life.

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