MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Taira Submits Park in UFC Vegas 108, PFL 8 Results | Morning Kombat

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Brian Campbell and Luke Thomas are live in studio to talk UFC Vegas 108 and much more! Flyweight contender Tasuro Taira rebounded from his first career defeat to easily finish unbeaten South Korean Hy...un-Sung Park. What did this performance say about the 25-year-old Japanese prospect's standing as a future threat to the UFC 125-pound title? Back-to-back main card bouts on Saturday in the 155-pound division produced incredible TV bangers as Esteban Ribovics decisioned Elves Brener and Chris Duncan outlasted Mateusz Rebecki. Both bouts shared FIGHT OF THE NIGHT honors. Which fight was better and does either one belong in the 2025 fight of the year discussion as we kick off the second half of the year? Plus, Thad Jean continued his breakout 2025 campaign by winning the welterweight tournament, $500K and gaining entry into PFL's Champions League. BC and LT recap PFL 8. Happy Morning Kombat Monday, Donks!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Oh, yeah. It's Monday morning, right? August 4th, 2025. You stumbled into the best damn combat sports show they ever put together. Morning combat. We ain't got shit to talk about today. BC LT from the DC. How about these nuts? Hey, Brock Lesnar's back in WWE so much for that sex trial, right? How implicated is he supposed to be? He hasn't been accused of anything, but he did agree to fly to Connecticut during contract regue negotiations to have fun with a sex toy. But then the blizzard stopped him. Are we really talking about this this early in the show?
Starting point is 00:01:20 It's what the world is to use. Yeah, it is. It is. So shout out to summer slam TKO just killing it in combat sports right now. Just in more is to you. Yeah, it is. It is. So shout out to SummerSlam. TKO just killing it in combat sports right now. Just more ways than one. Yeah, just no rules. Just knifing it in the back. Speaking of TKO, we've got a show for you today. Will it be quality? That's up to you. We'll be recapping UFC Apex. Also, hey, PFL did not have a bad night the other night. Did not have a bad night. They did not. All right. I'm a thad Gene Stan, brother.
Starting point is 00:01:45 He looked great. Yeah. All right. So we'll be getting into that. Our proclamations prove to be true. And we will be killing time with a little fill in the blank. We'll get to your DMs. We should be honest about this.
Starting point is 00:01:55 This is, this might be the most killingest of times, episodes we've ever done because let me just say this about UFC. Yeah. Their model, we know the model has changed and I was complaining again, but just hear me out. We are where we are. Like, I'm not even nothing I say is going to take us to a different place. Right. Us as a show?
Starting point is 00:02:14 No, no, no. I mean, the UFC. OK, it is what it is and their content models. UFC is just on now. Right. Even when they're not on, they're still on. No, no, no. But like they're just on like the light or like when you're at a bar and you see a bunch of TVs and like it's just on. But there's nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Things just happen and there's nothing coherent or. Pronounced about it, it's just a steady stream of fluorescent light. Yeah. And sometimes there's good parts to it. It's like when I say it's on, I'm not saying it's on in an always irrelevant way. But like the best way to think about UFC is it's not an event based production content company anymore. It's just. On I really feel like TKO has killed combat sports. Is it too early? They're trying. They're trying.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They're really trying. But if you say this, you have the balls to know we would notice with your eyes Hey, this doesn't look right People like why do you hate fun? Why do you want to do this number at you like this? Well, we'll have fun today to talk about pornography today. Okay, that's I'd rather talk about the drizzling shit You had on the train this morning. They were normal. They were normal today We I don't know what we have here. We got a show for you. You can follow us. You can like and subscribe, please.
Starting point is 00:03:30 In fact, it helps out the show a lot. Shout out to everybody watching the DraftKings network or in your ear hole at the supermarket. Also live on YouTube. You can check out our extended YouTube channels, including Luke Thomas gets political. Yeah, which is a place you can go to get political. So there you go. There you go with that chat. Also, hey, it's a new month right now. So morning combat dot shop.
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Starting point is 00:04:23 Do it. Yeah, shout out to that. I'd also like to introduce the third member of our team today. He's a writer, producer, Australian citizen, bong enthusiast and the host and proprietor of the Main Card Minute podcast. Anything else you want to say about him? Terrible boyfriend. Long Island, Luke Nocena. Soon to be single.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I didn't know I was a writer. I'll take that. Did I say writer? Yeah. I met rapist. I have written things before. Did I say you were a traffic cop? I meant you were a child killer. There you go.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Long Island Luke, how are you today, bro? I'm good, man. Did the full card watch along for UFC. No regrets to arguable. How can you say that about your life? What is going on there? You know what I actually turned down to do the watch along, BC will appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Anything of value. No, Weedus BC was playing a free concert in the park like across the street from my house. What's Weedus' big hit? Teenage Dirtbag. I'm just a teenage dirtbag. They're also from my hometown, shout out. So they were playing in the town
Starting point is 00:05:26 and I was like, should I go to the Weedist show? You should have gone to the Weedist show. Are you talking about Northport, Long Island, your hometown? Yeah, they're from Northport. Shout out. Alright, alright. He's a pretty good boyfriend. You gotta give him that. No, he's the worst one I've ever seen. Hey, I spent time with my girlfriend on Friday instead of watching PO3. You want a medal?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yes, I do. Also, he made his debut on submission radio with Dennis. Did you really? Yes. Oh yeah, me, Dennis and Jed, yesterday was a lot of fun. I mean, can you imagine the dirtbaggery in that one? There's a lot of dirtbaggery in that one. We are happy to have Long Island Luke here today.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Maybe it'll be a fun episode. We'll see, Luke, right? We're going to have fun with what we have. And what we have is nothing. So there you go. I mean, very little. It's a show about nothing. It's What is MK about um blood in your blood in your stool ass and titties there we go also I'd like to remind everybody out there that now is a good time to remember camera on me
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Starting point is 00:06:43 The tequila that started it all. Cuervo. The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo. Cuervo.com. Please drink responsibly. And Luke, we are one week out next Thursday. A week from this Thursday. UFC 319 pregame preview brought to you by Cuervo live in this studio. And oh, by the way, we're going to have a special third guest. And dude, I think we could spend that whole time talking about DDP versus Chumayev
Starting point is 00:07:08 because I am starting to get that feel, not like this will be some generational fight, but that this is a special fight above the normal main event title fight. Are you getting that feeling? I said on Twitter over the weekend that this fight has Hendo Hua potential. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, listen to the words I'm saying. I didn't say inevitability. I said potential. And what I really just sort of trying to get at is don't you feel like that main event, the way in which DDP and Chumayev match up, they could unlock something special. Yes. As a consequence, that's kind of what I feel. They could return the UFC to glory. One fight ain't going to do it, but certainly it's a good card.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And my main event is the most exciting main event that on the calendar of this year, period. Speaking of Chicago and speaking of warfare, did you see the washed warfare that we got into zone over the weekend with Regis Progre against Jojo Diaz and that co-main event? Let me ask you, Lord, that was fun. Let me ask you a question. Why has Progre's decline happened so fast? Well, he's in his mid to late thirties now. I mean, it's caught up to him.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Back in his forty-six. I mean. Okay. He's a one of one alien. Okay, fair enough. But I'm just saying like, it felt like when pro-graze started to go, like, it just...
Starting point is 00:08:19 It went. Off a cliff. It went. Yeah. But he won on Saturday, so shout out to him. I don't know if you saw that main event. Did you see Candice Sims against Oscar Duarte? No, I did miss that one. I. But he won on Saturday. So shout out to him. I don't know if you saw that main event. You see Kenneth Sims against Oscar Duarte. That was a war.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I heard Duarte looked pretty good. He did look pretty good. He's going to get a big fight off of that. So people say, oh, Ryan Garcia's win is aging well. And I'm like, well, that one is. But like. The Haney one's really not, though, is it? No, no, it's not. It's not. But Roli just got upgraded to full champion in the WBA.
Starting point is 00:08:44 That's my guy right there. Roli found and he found a new new life in the sport. It's interesting Oh that I don't know how if you actually found God, you know, God found him. Maybe that's that maybe that's it Maybe that's maybe that's it right there. All right, that's the religion portion today's show Yeah, was this are you quoting the fray? Am I? Was this a are you quoting the fray right now? Am I? I didn't know Well, I Okay, that's enough of that Let's get into the show if you're willing if you're able and if you're ready right now topic number one over the weekend
Starting point is 00:09:17 You already know hey, whoa, UFC apex was back at it warehouse fighting in front of handfuls of people Hey, it was a two-night summer slam weekend. TKO was very busy. But in that main event, we saw a flyweight matchup hastily put together at the last minute. But it did produce somewhat of a breakout performance, if you will, as Tatsuro Taira of Japan finishing late replacement. Let me get this right. Hyonsung Park.
Starting point is 00:09:44 That's the best that I've got for you to high on some park who was supposed to be fighting some park. Park was supposed to be fighting Steve Erceg a week later. He came on a week early and what we got ultimately was the flyweight contender Tyra bouncing back from that first pro defeat and that split decision the war over five rounds against Brandon Royval. But we saw some evolution to his game, some legit evolution.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So Luke, what did this performance say about the 25-year-old prospect standing as a future threat to the title in this division? Because what he was talking about afterwards was I want the winner of Van versus Pantosia. I think we need to be very careful about what we decide we learned from this performance because it was up again. I mean, like, just, we should just be honest about it. Like, this fight should not have taken place.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Like, I'm not, oh, hear me out. Whenever I say that, people think, oh, you're saying it's a bad thing. No, it's not really a bad thing. Well, Amir Al-Bazi got hurt about a week or two out, right? Yeah, yeah, it was a while ago. I understand. I mean, that fight would have been tremendous. Unfortunately, Al-Bazi, for whatever reason, couldn't make it.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But the reality is, like, the fight should not have happened. Like, a fight should have some kind of a point to it. And in particular, a main event should have definitely a point to it. So should a fight card. This one didn't. I mean, this is what I'm saying. It's like, they're just, it's a light switch. UFC is just on.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And if the stream happens to be good at that time, great. If it doesn't, that's all support of it. It's just on now. It's not really, you know, event punctuated specialty. It's not really what it does. But the point, neither here nor there. They tried to put the main event together very quickly, BC. And I think most people are going to say
Starting point is 00:11:23 they want the UFC to go through with that. And so that's what you're gonna get. And I think most people are going to say they want the UFC to go through with that. And so that's what you're going to get. And I understand it. And let me be clear. Tatsuro Taira looked awesome. I mean, the reality was he was better than Park everywhere. He was better on the feet, which I wasn't so sure was going to be the case. We knew he was a good chance it was going to be better on the ground. And he was way better on the ground too. Double leg where he slammed him into the post and then picked him up and dropped him a second time. He was remarkable. He was very good and in particular the two right hands that he landed in the first round, one that rocked him, one that knocked him down, they were long range, they were well timed, they were crisp,
Starting point is 00:11:57 they looked good but this was an opponent who was simply not on the level at all, who was not prepared for this guy at all. And he got run over. He got absolutely run over. And it's like, Tyra could have done that a hundred times out of a hundred to this guy. That's just what it was going to be. So like, did the mechanics of the striking that he used to knock down park look really good? No question about it.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Overall, did he just look dialed in and ready to go and have a clearly superior class to Park? He absolutely did. But like that's telling you what he represents relative to the middle ish part of the division. It doesn't tell you much about what he measures up to at the top. Well, it's hard. On one sense. He's 25 years old. So you're like, why are you?
Starting point is 00:12:42 Why are we rushing him to the title? Even though he kind of rushed himself in the post-fight interview. But also, there's been a dominant champion on top. So, if Pantoja continues to hold this title through the Joshua Van fight, you're going to be looking for fresh meat. So, there is an onus on new talent developing and showing themselves, but this is where I'm going to give him the full credit.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And I'm not necessarily saying that Park is a killer who will continue to be in the top end of this division. He had a chance to leap up, took his chance, was game, you're right, got handled in every category. But specifically the Royvault fight, what did we say coming into it? Or what did I say? Loved his hunger, loved his chin, loved his willingness, did not love that he was there to be hit, didn't move at all. It was like caveman fighting, right? The changes he made from that fight to find out afterwards that he went to the boxing gym and just basically worked on exactly that. You saw that right away.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I know there's not a lot of tape on this fight. It was a round and a quarter, but you saw him control distance. You saw him moving his head. You saw the footwork too against Royvault. He was parked in the middle, ready to brawl to the death. This was an evolution to his game, which in some ways would be natural for a 25-year-old. But I think even with the situation of this fight,
Starting point is 00:13:51 he showed you some real improvement to his game that I think needs to be taken serious. I don't dispute that he looked mechanically much more efficient, but how durable that skill will prove to be in about, meaning how long they will continuously use it, you cannot tell until they are put under fire with it and he could look good against Park Go up against someone else who drills him right in the face and he loses composure and or Can't maintain the kind of orderliness that he showed here. It looks good this time. Please don't misunderstand me
Starting point is 00:14:20 He might in fact to your point might be able to use it as he moves You know or I should say continues to ascend the ladder at this point. But all I'm trying to point out to you is what can you infer from a win over a guy like Park, who is a good fighter, but a limited one and came in on short notice relative to both timing and opponent. You just have to be honest and say there's very little you can take from that with certainty. Were you disappointed the fact that as soon as Park got touched, he was down? As soon as he got taken down, the fight was over?
Starting point is 00:14:49 I thought, I mean, I appreciate that Park hung in there when he had his back taken for so long in both the first and at least part of the second round. Like, dude, he was trying. You know, I give, Park didn't lay down, but like, here's the problem. Like while I appreciate he didn't lay down for Tyra, he could do nothing. I mean, he could do nothing to him. He couldn't get off. Again, what are the levels of fighting?
Starting point is 00:15:13 It's survive, defend, attack. He was stuck in survival basically the whole way through. Long Island Luke, would you mind reproducing his Tyra's famous post-fight response to the first question? I'm happy, thank you! Oh, alright, was that racist? Because I enjoyed it, but was it racist? What was that just now?
Starting point is 00:15:32 I'm happy, thank you! Come on, it's his catchphrase, it's wild! Let me hear it again. You know, Bisping gave a five-minute question of, you did this, you did that, you did that, how'd you do it? I'm happy, thank you! Right? Come on.
Starting point is 00:15:44 This is not that, it's not that. How'd you do it? I'm happy. Thank you. Right. Come on. This is not that it's not that. I couldn't tell if he played a sound clip or if he was doing like he's an impersonator, he was doing like a master splinter voice like, oh, you know, it's like, why are we still doing racist master splinter? You know who the voice of master splinter was on the Ninja Turtle? Not an Asian guy. Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince. Yeah, exactly. Right. Was that what you were doing? you were doing the master splinter thing I just played a clip from him. I don't know what you're talking
Starting point is 00:16:10 Mean Look tyra was confident after the stoppage happy But he got a little emotional on the walk back to the locker room I enjoy these moments to see a an honest side of them if you don't mind playing that video. I'll show you the strength of the Japanese in August. Yes. I'll show you. I did it. That shows me that he's human, that he had questions about himself coming in there after the loss. For sure. Even though he was close with Royval.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And I like that little outpouring of emotion, but we also have him talking. If the win was valuable to Tyra on his own terms, which it clearly looked like it was. I'm not saying that that win has no value for him. You're asking me like when you watch tape, what can you infer? We can take some things. I just want folks to make sure it's couched and limited in the right ways. Yes, casting couched. I got it. Tyra also went on to explain why he was so happy with this victory.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Let's listen. Thank you so much. I am feeling why he was so happy with this victory. Let's listen. Thank you so much. I'm feeling great. I'm happy. Thank you! I was thinking, I'm back here in the Octagon and finally can fight. Just gonna trust myself and show my best. Really wanted to come back strong and show that I'm stronger now. I had the best training ever and I was able to show that on the Octagon. So I'm so happy. In the first round, I did see some opportunities that I could go to, but I have the confidence
Starting point is 00:17:54 that I'm the best in the flyweight. So I keep saying I didn't need to rush at all. And that's how I went from the first round and also the second round. Back choke is one of my strengths. Back choke is definitely one of my strengths. I'm so much used to doing it. Even in that angle, I know with my power and strength that that guy is going to tap. I kind of knew that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Whoever the opponent is, my job is to show my strength. Whether it's top 10, top 5, whoever that is, whoever UFC is going to bring me to, bring me for the next fight, I'm ready to fight that person and show my strength. Yeah, obviously it was my turn to teach. I think I was able to teach. Yeah, he taught that shit. Would you say that catchphrase is like one of the better ones in UFC right now It's certainly superior to show we we's cuz when they show it in a when they show it in like a Medley of all the ones in a row. It's pretty hilarious. Yes, no done. Yeah. Well, it's also sweet. It's like very Japanese You know, it's kind and it's like It's very cool. Yeah, would you say his versus like you know suck my dick would you say his?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Jujutsu is very good. It's war is it title world-class in this division. Oh It's not as physical as and I don't think it's as well suited for MMA just yet as Pantoja's but Into your point is 25. I know how, like give him a little bit of time. And if he made this leap from that last fight, then- I will say for 25, this is what a championship guy would look like at 25 in terms of the ground game. That doesn't mean he's ready for it,
Starting point is 00:19:36 but I'm saying like, imagine he was ready at 30. Sure. You'd be right here at 25, yes. To the victor goes the spoils, here was his post-fight takedown meal meal and he's enjoying the shit out of that. Luke, what is your favorite way to eat ice cream? This is a big debate in my house. So, for example, are you a cone or a cup guy?
Starting point is 00:19:55 OK, if I'm out ordering. So let me let me let me let me let me stipulate. Not a restaurant you're at, like it's a it's a ice cream stand. Yeah, Stan. Auto waffle cone. No question about it. No, no sprinkles, no a ice cream stand yeah stand auto waffle cone no question about it no no sprinkles no nuts or anything just give me waffle cone give me two flavors usually I like them to be very contrasting because you know they'll meet in the middle and they'll be what's the order oh my the best of the
Starting point is 00:20:16 best ice cream flavor ever is black raspberry and then I usually mix that with some form of chocolate something else you know what I'm saying like a chocolate peanut butter or something like that and but at home always cup and I get the smallest spoon possible I get like the that's the move the tiny measuring so right that's like that's small because then you can really delay yes yes savor it and almost make love to it yeah my whole family or cuz a cone family except me I'm a Cup guy. Yeah, yeah, okay. That's interesting. Yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Do you need two girls with that or are you fine with just one cup? Depends what kind. Look, he's inserting himself into the title picture and given the fact again that there's a dominant champion on top, literally the door might open up for him to get a sooner-than-later opportunity. Here is Tyra explaining why he believes he can compete with and defeat the winner of Pantoja against Joshua Vann. You made the case, hey, you want the title shot next. Tell us why. Make the case for
Starting point is 00:21:13 yourself. Argue why you deserve to be next for the winner of the Flyway title shot. I can say 100%. My skill is higher than the champion. Pantoja versus Vann fight will be approximately in November, December. So the next title fight will be around spring. So are you ready to be without fights till spring on next year? I would hope my wish would be to have a fight on the same card as an undercard. So Luke, that journalist brought up a good point that with this championship fight coming in the fall It would push it off into next year
Starting point is 00:21:50 So who would be the correct opponent for Tatsuro Taira coming off of this victory? I mean the problem with this win is not that it was again you Tyra Don't have to keep explaining it. We get it. We get what I'm saying is where does it put him? Does it really expedite him up the food chain? It does to the in the scenario that you raise that there's no one else. But this is the point I'm trying to make. If Al-Bazi can be returned to action. Still a good fight. It's still an important fight, actually.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And that's the kind of test where you're like, OK, you beat a guy like that. We can really infer something from it. So to me, it's like, is Al- beat a guy like that, we can really infer something from it. So to me, it's like, is Al-Bazi still available? Can you can you book that within a reasonable timeframe? If so, I think you go right back to it. Unfortunately, it can't be Mohammed Mokai. I've got to be Kai Asakura or no, because he's coming. So they wanted to ask the court about it. Would they do that? Asakura is fighting Tim Elliott in like two weeks. Okay, but that's a good call. Even but then the timing works out great actually if Asakura wins
Starting point is 00:22:46 You could do it, but what he wants to do it initially in Japan I don't know if the UFC has any intention of going back Saitama Super Arena Yeah to Japan this year or certainly even next year I don't I don't really know where that's maybe if if Japan ponies up the Baku Azerbaijan type. Yes, listen instead We'll probably get it in Bangladesh before we get it in Japan, but you get the idea. UFC Cambodia is going to be fire, believe that. He says he's more skilled than the champion. I know you don't believe that, but let's posit a scenario.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Tyrus said he's more skilled than Pantoja. Yeah, he's not. Let's create a scenario where somebody got sick ahead of this fight, Van versus Pantoja, and he had to step in. How do you like, right now, Tyra's chances against either of those gentlemen at the top of the division? All right, so against Van,
Starting point is 00:23:30 you would have to imagine Van would light him up on the feet. Just the sheer volume. This is what I mean about like, it's very easy to look good striking against Park, but a guy who can play hurry up offense on you, that's a little bit different. Like Speed Chess in the park in West
Starting point is 00:23:45 Forth. You know, you got to know, you got to know what you're doing out there with Bobby Fisher. You'll get hustled fat. You ever done it before? No, but that guy hates the shaps. Well, I'm not. Yeah, Bobby Fisher's got problems, but I'm saying you ever played chess in West Forth? Hell no. Dude, they'll smoke you. I just learned how to play chess for the first time ever last year
Starting point is 00:24:00 against my nephew. Yeah, no, I did a couple of times. So those guys out in West Forth, they know what the fuck they're doing. They'll smoke you fast But the point I'm trying to make is you know, you can play chess really well under a different kind of slower pace so the question is could Tyra get it to the ground and hold it there I Think he could I don't know enough to win a five round battle and against Pantoja. I'm sorry I think he gets run over I think there's a level of physicality and certainly understanding of MMA positions meanness too yeah just fight me and relentlessly yeah you know courageously how was your
Starting point is 00:24:33 chess game by the way because you're a thinker you're in life you're a thinker I in high school it was pretty good it's pretty bad now are you more offensive or defensive is that even a thing yeah well it depends if you have the right opens. You know, there's different openings. My open is just to pull, just to just put your balls on, release my junk. And then they, you know, they're like, you're like, is it, if I put my testicles near the Bishop, is that checkmate? What if the shaft touches the queen? Is that, is that essay?
Starting point is 00:24:59 We should be fired today. We should be fired today. That is not good. All right. Let's move on, please. Can we move on? Yeah. All right. Topic number two. Look, look UFC apex card on Saturday on paper It was bad But the argument is did it over deliver from the standpoint of entering wars? Particularly in two back-to-back lightweight brawls on the main card In which both fights shared fight of the night honors in these TV bangers. We had Esteban Rievovich decisioning Elvis Brenner.
Starting point is 00:25:28 We also had Chris Duncan and Mateus Ronbecky delivering the full crimson mask to each other. Both fights shared the honors, as I said. Luke, which of these two lightweight duels, in your opinion, was the better fight of the night? Remember, they shared that honors. And was MMA Twitter correct in saying both are fight of the year contenders. Yeah, they're both are fight of the year contenders.
Starting point is 00:25:52 If you don't have eyeballs and or you're stupid. Oh, wow. Okay. I will say I watched them for the first time this morning and I was underwhelmed in comparison to the way they were sold to me. I mean, I don't know how to approach the show anymore because I don't want to be a booster and just say nice things for the for they were sold to me. I mean, I don't know how to approach the show anymore, because I don't want to be a booster and just say nice things for the, for like the fuck of it.
Starting point is 00:26:08 But I'm also, I don't want to go out there and, you know, be mean for the sport either. I'm just trying to call balls and strikes as best I can tell. Here's what I'll say. Coveman, I had a lot of fun watching. I thought the Raumbechke and Duncan fight was fucking fun as shit. It made miss ping on commentary tolerable. I have it so low I couldn't I couldn't tell.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Can you show their can you show their faces by the way? So so you want to be an ultimate fighter. This to me was a brutal, brutal fucking slog. And I thought, dude, round Bechki, we should just talk about him for just a second. He looks like Oscar Willis. No one wants to bring it up. Can you play that one more time? Oh my god. That's voted Oscar Willis, isn't it? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Same hairline? If Oscar was like a man versus the... What do you think he is? Twink. I mean, he's... Oh, sorry. He's nothing. By the way, he sent Ben the Bane to hell, even though I loved myself so much.
Starting point is 00:27:01 He did. He did. But to finish the point, I loved that fight. I thought that fight was gutsy as shit Chris Duncan took a little bit of time because I saw some folks be like 3027 Duncan is that unfair? I didn't think it was unfair. I thought the first round Probably went to round Batski. Yes, but I thought it was close Well now look you had an argument about that first round that you brought how did you score it? I was saying I gave it to round Batski But the argument for 3027 is that Duncan lands that huge elbow that gets the hematoma?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah, so he did cause more damage. I get the judging So my point is I can go either way on it And I thought the other two he was just out striking a guy who just kept trying to keep come for it kept coming forward Kept coming forward and didn't have a lot of answers. He was getting chewed up that to me What but was still like getting his licks in and then he was still finding ways break through. To me that was, you know, fight of the year I think is a little strong, but certainly fight of the night and very very fun. I don't really have anything negative to say about it other than it was kind of a sloppy brawl, blah blah blah blah. But the Reboviks fight against Brenner... That was better.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It was more coordinated, but it was less fun. Some defense as opposed to... that's the only problem with the Rombetsky Duncan fight and they both sold out. But there was a caveman fight. And I know there's part of us that we want. It was a caveman fight early, whereas the Rybavics and the Brenner fight, you know, it kind of, the first round was just kind of medium pace. Second round, it tuned up.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And then really it turned the corner fully in like the last two minutes of the third round. Higher skill, higher pace. It was a little more like I enjoyed that a little bit more. I wouldn't say higher skill. I would say well maybe a little bit higher skill. There was some adjustments being made between them particularly on the Brenner side midway through that fight. But to me like who could beat better guys? Rambecki can beat better guys than I think Brenner can. I think, you know what I mean? Like I just don't think they're fight of the year contenders. I thought they were very fun TV fights.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Agreed. Totally disagree with that statement. I think that's exactly the way to put it. I was saying I need like a list of all the fight of the night so far and then I can truly rank where it ranks on the year. But I do think part of the reason everyone's saying fight of the year is cause like on paper, I don't think anyone was expecting this card to deliver whatsoever and we got a really fun fight of the night
Starting point is 00:29:10 So and there was a couple other fun bang Reba Vicks and Brenner was good to fun and Nothing else would you rather rewatch this Brenner fight or hang out with Danny Brenner former Bellator? me I Do like Danny, okay Bellator. Pardon me. I do like Danny. Okay. Thank you. Me too.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I do like he's a new father. Shout out to that guy. Unfortunately, these, if two brawls back to back in the lightweight division happened in a closet and no one's there to watch it, did they actually have it? Let's look at the handfuls of people that watched the end of this Duncan, Ron Bettsky fight. Chris Duncan, 29, 28. What did they say?
Starting point is 00:29:44 Clear. Yeah. I think those are betters. fight. Chris Duncan, 29-28, what did they say? Clear! Clear! Yeah. I think those are betters. What are we doing here? Those are sports betters. I mean I'm not gonna relitigate the warehouse argument but like... Yeah, but this is what I mean dude, it's just, it's on now. Like if that's at, if that's at like UFC Topeka, the place is rocking, right? Oh yeah, like where should it have been? Right, like anywhere else. It should have been anywhere I mean, it's just overflow car. I mean, okay I know that it's I don't know what to say any okay It's more cost-effective to do it in their own arena
Starting point is 00:30:12 And I know they want to expand it because they're gonna do boxing and then they're gonna do Jujutsu gonna do all that But they used to go for these level small shows to like the joint at the hard rock, right? And it'd be like people crowding the ring at the cage and it'd be like a fun atmosphere Is the heart rock still open in Vegas? It's now the very isn't the version isn't now the Virgin hotels I believe the one by Mad Men. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's one here the weeds the molecule with the camera on me Wait Mad Men Mad Men is like the McDonald's. Sorry. It's a madman. I can say that it's mad Did we ever see Bob Arum there after midnight alone? Why don't we just tell the story? By the way, Mad Men is like the McDonald's. No, sorry, it's Med Men. I keep saying that. It's Med Men. Did we ever see Bob Arum there after midnight alone?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Why don't we just tell the story? I think we already have. But yes, Bob Arum who has... No, let me tell it. BC and I went to Med Men one time. We were staying... It was after midnight too. It was late.
Starting point is 00:30:58 No, Sun was still out. No, this was... Are you sure? The earliest it could have been was like 1115 or 1130. It was like after a day full of events. All right, so we go to Medman, which is like down this, it's off the strip, but like perpendicular to it, like about a mile walk or give or take.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And we get in there and we look over and fucking Bob Arum is in there, like in this weed store. And this weed store, if you're ever been to Medman, it's like a Apple store, where they've got kiosks everywhere and stuff like that. And he's with his driver and security guard who's former light heavyweight contender, Derek Harmon. Right, so I'm just gonna tell him what we did.
Starting point is 00:31:32 This was BC's idea and he executed it. This was right, this was near the same time as Bob having the run-in with Mike Coppinger where he's like, shut the fuck up, you little prick. BC was like, yo, watch this. And BC goes over to, where he's like, shut the fuck up, you little prick. BC was like, yo, watch this. And BC goes over to him and goes like, yo, Bob, we're big fans, and like, Bob's eyes. When I tell you they were the most bloodshot eyeballs
Starting point is 00:31:52 I've ever seen in my life. Yo, he was not there. There was not anyone home at that moment. I mean, he was fucking zooted out there, all right? And BC looks at him and goes, yo, Bob, yo, fuck Mike Coppinger, huh? And Bob can only utter this guttural laugh like You know, he's so fucking high we we had a very fun time laughing
Starting point is 00:32:15 That was so good. Uh We'll talk about the other fights on this card, but we both know and enjoy and Evans, you know that guy, right? Yes indeed a former UFC employee and pioneer in some ways. By the way, he had a great, I thought a great guest spot on Just Bleed Radio. You know those donks that do that? The JBR? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:33 You know, Lazy Bed, Danger Mouse, Sandeen. Yeah, yeah. They had like 90 minutes with him. I somehow stumbled into it. It was actually a really interesting listen. Awesome, yeah. And it's a good storyteller. Here's a tweet from Ant who tells the truth.
Starting point is 00:32:44 My God, these atrocious apex MMA cards WFC washed fighting championship The only sane way to remain a fan is to limit time sunk to eight or nine Paper-views a year only way to remain a fan and retain the will to live a little strong hashtag washed UFC and it doesn't hide his feelings We don't have to expand on it, but is he right or is he wrong? I mean this one went long on Luke is like oh, I did a full card watch along. I'm like dude that can't possibly be Maximizing your time it just cannot possibly be
Starting point is 00:33:15 Go donate like what your time at like a animal shelter or I like what he likes I'm donating to all the homeless cats the animals They done matter they don't look let me ask you of the four guys in those lightweight action tilts who has the brightest ceiling Mr.. Bon rivage When I hear Esteban remember those infomercials of that like Spanish guitarist with like the long fingernails they would be like I think the guy who can beat the best people right now, probably Duncan, but maybe Reba Vicks has longer
Starting point is 00:33:54 upside in terms of if you expand the time horizon. OK, OK, that's interesting. Something like that. All right. I do want to ask you about this man the Argentine toporia He's known as Kevin is it pronounced Vigene yes, we see it's pronounced Vigene I want to say Vallejos, but they're on the word they're saying so one more time. This is the trick I but I didn't realize this either
Starting point is 00:34:17 Do you know what they call the letter Y in Spanish the letter Y daddy's Yankee no Igrigia Greek eye We got they call it a Greek I Y so the Y and the double L this is always gonna be a point of contention a lot of Spanish-speaking countries are gonna say the double L like the English Y the Vallejos yeah or my my wife is from in Colombia they're gonna say Vallejos and where he is from in Argentina, which is why the commentary crew was saying it this way They say the double L like a sh so it's a shea hose That's that's why they do it that way. All right Vallejos went in there in a actually a really tough bout on paper against a an experienced Danny Silva and damn near pitched to shutout
Starting point is 00:35:04 Luke it's early. He's young to shut out Luke. It's early He's young, but he's confident. He's solid. It's got good striking. Are we watching a Potential breakout performer. I do think he looks like he looks like he's got some of the parts that you really would care about first of all Long out Luke and I were talking about this Danny Silva gave him a tough fight I thought Danny Silva came in there prepared, had a lot of good answers, really slowed down Kevin, particularly in that first and I'd say halfway through the second round. Now as the fight picked up, you know, especially after by the end of the second, you could
Starting point is 00:35:38 tell that Vajajos was really beginning to put a pace on him at that point. However, I just want to say shouts to Danny Silva, who I thought did a pretty commendable job. Now you're asking about Kevin, what can we learn from that? My only criticism, BC, that I could find was he didn't have quite enough creativity in trying to break through. He more so went back to the same things
Starting point is 00:36:04 that were getting blocked. But then, you know, he would kind of switch up things a little bit, change the distance a little bit, change the time a little bit, and then it began to work a little bit more effectively, which fine, if it works more effectively. I'm just saying, you know, if we're going to grade on a high kind of curve here, I would have liked to have seen adaptations a little bit quicker. Fair. I would have liked to have seen adaptations a little bit quicker there. All right, that's all I'm gonna say but in general He had a very ready opponent who made things a little bit difficult for him and
Starting point is 00:36:34 Eventually overcame it not with a thudding finishing KO But by methodically kind of finding his space and he was clearly the better guy by the time the fire a lot of Argentines On this card by way a lot of gouges and And I think Vallejos looks like an interesting featherweight prospect. I don't know about the Toporia part of it, but here is him talking afterwards about it. I'm proud that they are seeing that level in someone who is just starting out. I'm 23 years old and I'm not even close to what I'm going to be in 27, 28, 30 years old. That's the prime of a fighter. I think that when I get to that age I'll be much better than Ilja and almost anyone else.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Wow, so anyone that wasn't, that was listening to audio only, he plans on being much better than him. Yeah, what he's basically saying is he's like, you know, I've reached this level at age 22, you know, you're looking at the best fighters when they're 28, 29, even 30, he's like, wait till I'm 30, I'll be better than Ilja. Damn, wow, okay. Even 30 is like wait till I'm 30. I'll be better than Ilya. Yeah. Wow. Okay also 37 year old Neil Magni got a second round TKO against Eliza doleski dos Santos. Yeah, it was the unction I was an unk off. He was gifted afterwards for this performance shout out Neil Magni. Let's look at this
Starting point is 00:37:58 What's he said a birthday cake right there? Oh yeah. If you know it. No, no, no. Oh, no! Yeah! What a man. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wow, he got his black belt, huh? Yep. Joining a very elite fraternity that does include Brendan Chubb.
Starting point is 00:38:15 He, he, I mean, you do him skits and bits today. It's all right. Dude, the dude's a black belt in jujitsu. What do you want me to say? Would he get a point fight me? Let's get some bits. But the point is, he did dominate him on the ground. Like, you know what, dude? Neil Mag point is, he did dominate him on the ground.
Starting point is 00:38:25 You know what, dude, Neil Magne is... He's a tough out. I'll tell you what, dude, that dude, I mean, he's a compiler, which is the thing you talked about, and that's not the same as elite achievement, but the fact that he is still compiling is its own kind of rem- I mean, dude, this is what I'll say about Neil Magni, you can say anything else, but you cannot deny that motherfucker has put in the hard yards.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Has he not? Damn right he has. He has put in the hard fucking yards when they need to move the chain. 43 pro fights, 30 wins, 13 defeats. This got him out of a slump. You can certainly say that against, you know, higher level competition there, but
Starting point is 00:39:06 The dude has been in the UFC Luke going back all the way like I'm still going down his Wikipedia right now hold on I'm still going down February of 2013 he made his debut That's a long and you you don't linger look at look at Martin Boudet's pouch You don't linger unless you're oh wait. He's 7'1 and they caught him Read the names of this dude's fuck Yeah, I can tell you that every welterweight ever alright. Yeah, alright Hard yards, you know Carlos protest Michael Morales Mike Malat Ian Gary Gilbert Burns D Rod Shavkat Jeff Jeff Neal, Max Griffin, Kiesa, Robbie
Starting point is 00:39:45 Lawler, Caleb Harrison's former boyfriend, Lee Jingling, Santiago, Ponsonibio, Carlos Condon, RDA, Johnny Hendrix, Lorenz Larkin, Hector Lombard, Kelvin Gastelum, Eric Silva, Damien Maya. Yeah, that Tim Means all the way back. And he's still motivated to go out there and win and it's still doing it. Yeah, I'm sorry, dude. That's its own kind of special achievement to me. I like that long. I look you love under cards Tell me something that you enjoyed here. There were two body kick chaos
Starting point is 00:40:14 Shout-out to knock my ring. You're not Kimura had a nice not Kimura looked sick. Yeah You've had a nice win to against Nick Klein I don't really know if Nick Klein is UFC level but it it's okay. Austin Bashi got a nice bounce back. You know, he lost his debut. He's still rushing his offense a little bit, but he definitely looked better this time. Yeah, I got the first round choke against John Yannis. And dominated.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yannis came in on very short notice, like six or seven days, and Bashi ran over him. But nevertheless, Bashi did everything he was supposed to do, and he was very appreciative of the opponent stepping in on short notice. So it was, you know, that's what I mean about these fights. Did they need to happen? They didn't need to happen, but they did. You were telling me you were very impressed with Carol Hossa.
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Starting point is 00:42:17 See pick six dot draft kings dot com slash promos. Very well done. Hey, topic number three folks. PFL was in Atlantic City at Boardwalk Hall on Friday night, and by winning that welterweight tournament, scoring a dominant five round unanimous decision over former Bellator interim champion Logan Storley. At 11 and 0, Thad Gene is becoming, like I mentioned, one of the biggest thing PFL's got going. He's got a $500,000 cash prize,
Starting point is 00:42:57 and it does gain him entry into PFL's Champions League tournament global championship slash, I don't really know what that means, but hey, let's talk about the good stuff right now. Luke, where should Thad Gene's right now rank on PFL's current roster in terms of the fighters that they need to build the company around? I'm talking about matchmaking and marketing
Starting point is 00:43:20 with real intention moving forward. How valuable to PFL is Thad Gene after this season? Critical. Critical. Thad Gene is a success story for PFL, not merely because he's likeable and he wins, but as we mentioned, this was a guy that fought on the challenger's card. They scouted him, they found him, they developed him,
Starting point is 00:43:41 they put him through the tournament, he did his part, and now look at the consequence. He is young, he's exciting, he likes to fight on the feet, he's got a great story. He's huge as a welterweight. I cannot believe how big he is. Which by the way will make some interesting issues if PFL survives a little while longer and he continues to perform like how much longer does he have time at 170? I don't know the answer that sure certainly right now he is that guy English speaking I mean Shamil Musayev is one of these guys that you would imagine would be you know, the one that he wants and I think he infected called him out afterwards and it's a really really difficult fight. Musayev is a fun
Starting point is 00:44:21 guy to have on your roster because he provides quality but he's not going to electrify the American market anytime soon. I mean this is the thing about PFL, we've talked about it, they don't have a domestic fan base. They don't have one. And it's because of their system and format in my opinion. There's many reasons, there's many reasons. That's a big contributor, but one of the ways in which they could, I don't know, solve the problem but make certainly some inroads is to feature more guys like this. Now I don't know if he's ready to beat Musayev BC. It's a you know Storly is a very good opponent.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Musayev is a different level. But the point I wanted to make is this was such a great night for him. It's a very good night for PFL. What they need to do is like and this is the thing that drives me nuts. They need to promotionally build around him, not build things and then plug fighters in. I know UFC does that and gets away with it. They're not UFC. You need to do it the much more organic way, but you've got something now. You've got really a person you can build around. Dakota Ditcheva is something similar for the
Starting point is 00:45:20 UK. Although you can build her here too. Well, let me ask you where his stock ranks when you consider, okay they let some people go that I thought they should have built around Pico, etc. But you got Dakota Ditchva, you got Usman Amagomedov, you got Paul Hughes. How important is that, Gene, compared to those in terms of what PFL can do with them moving forward? I mean, I just think the Paul Hughes thing is not a reasonable comparison because this was Thad's first real breakout, whereas Paul Hughes kind of had one. Paul Hughes was not anonymous when he signed to PFL.
Starting point is 00:45:48 He had already made a name for himself in the European regional scene or international scene with Cage Warriors and then was a proven guy who could have gone to UFC or PFL chose PFL. Whereas that gene, for some people, just kind of came out of nowhere. It's a very, very different. What's sub league for PFL? Challengers. Challengers. OK.
Starting point is 00:46:07 So we're trying to point out is that's got a little bit of work to do promotionally to be even close to Paul Hughes, to be quite honest with you. There is just some proving that has to go into it. However, however, these young stars all in their 20s, Ditcheva, I think he was still in his 20s. And then certainly that gene is This is these kinds of names are the core names that they now need to promotionally put resources into
Starting point is 00:46:31 back and then feature rather than, we're gonna go to Cape Town and just plug in your fucking stupid ass fight there. That's what has to happen. And this is where I keep harping on the format because this was such a breakout performance against a proven name in Storley that even though they gave him a belt afterwards,
Starting point is 00:46:44 it was the championship belt of their welterweight tournament, I wish this crowned him as the PFL welterweight champion because the next thing you'd say is, oh, who's next in line? I want to see him again. Let's go. Instead, what does it really make him? It makes him sort of the PFL America's season champion and now he goes to the global champions league
Starting point is 00:47:01 and fights people from other PFL territories. It's like that just waters. The Champions League of MMA. That just waters down how big of a breakthrough story I think he was to them and what he should be. Like that's the problem I have with this. This was on ESPN, like this was an exciting fight card. I thought the presentation was great.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Dan Hardy's fantastic on commentary. There's a lot I liked about it. I wish this was even bigger than it was. Let's show Gene coming out of the cage there at Boardwalk Hall. Randy was there by the way. Yeah, shout out to him. Gene! You can see his tournament title there, the crowd very happy to see him and certainly
Starting point is 00:47:40 a breakthrough moment. And speaking of the value he brings, I like that they're using a friend of the show, Jonathan Coachman, as a mouthpiece. And speaking of the value he brings, I like that they're using a friend of the show, Jonathan Coachman, as a mouthpiece. Here's Coach After the Fact talking about the value that Gene does bring to the company. Any fighter in the history of combat sports has to have those fights and those performances that take him to that next level.
Starting point is 00:47:57 And you have to be able to pass those tests in order to be seen as a star. And we believe here at the PFL that we need to find our own fighters, grow our own fighters, and make stars out of our own fighters. And Thad Gene is one of those guys that we absolutely believe in, and tonight he put on a spectacular performance for a guy that is so young.
Starting point is 00:48:17 He told me on Wednesday, walked right up to me, and he says, Coach, I'm in the best shape of my entire life. And everybody thinks that I'm going to get taken into the fourth and fifth round and I'm going to be tired. And did he get a little bit tired? Who wouldn't? But he was still able to throw quick jabs. He was still able to pretty much on the feet, dominate the fight.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And he really had a great, uh, I think ground game and defense against Logan Storley, who's an unbelievable, uh, grappler as well. So, uh, shout out, we still have six more to go. Uh, we'll get six more to go. We'll get to those in a little bit, but I think tonight was a great start to our world tournament final. So Luke, let's talk about this fight.
Starting point is 00:48:51 He did go five rounds. He did lose the fourth round on all three judges' scorecards, but I am so impressed with striking the variety of it. I mean, he put, I mean, he could have, he, I almost felt like Storley was looking close to getting stopped a couple of times, like, but it was just such an overall dominant performance when you take into account the takedown defense. Because it wasn't just stuffing the takedowns of a proven grappler who you knew was coming in there to take you down.
Starting point is 00:49:15 He was reversing that into top position a few times too. Like, he just looked bigger, stronger, smarter, better variety of game. Where do you think the holes are, moving forward? If there are any, because this to me showed, yeah, this variety of game. Where do you think the holes are moving forward? If there are any, because this to me showed, yeah, this guy's world class. So, couple of things. I mean, he definitely did look really good in the wrestling. His scrambling looked great. I do wonder if a Jason Jackson with a second chance might have a little bit more success with him on like second order. It was a split decision, it was close fight.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah, like a second order kind of thing. Like you can tighten up some of the differences to account for them. So in other words, Thadjean doesn't have quite what I would call instinctual take down defense yet. It's very good, it's reactive, it's, please don't misunderstand me, it's very good. But against someone who can chain them together more nimbly, it does not look yet to me like the kind that's got ready for all those answers, but it was certainly plenty for him on Friday night. The other part too is the way in which he kind of has a loose hands down approach. Someone's going to pop in for that someone with a good job is going to
Starting point is 00:50:15 really cause like he's he's like he gets here and he moves his hands like this like like he's trying to shake a booger off of him. Okay. Okay. And and, and even if he wasn't, even if they were still, they'd be right about here. Um, you know, I find that like that style of, he's good at moving his head, which is why, but like, you know, Storley's not the guy to test that through combination. So again, you have to think about how does their style match up obviously against the person that they're up against, but also like, you know, what are the limits to that?
Starting point is 00:50:45 So he's obviously got a ton of ability, but to me, like on the, to me, it's more about like where the defensive vulnerabilities are for him. And they're not huge, but against a guy like Musayev, they could be, right? But you were saying you were watching what the PFL post show and they brought out his family What was that? I brought it. They had his he had his whole supporter crew there and Parents are from Haiti from Haiti. They brought him out They brought his whole family out and like just hearing the family celebrate and sure do they were this was the biggest day of their lives I don't know seem like in a long time. They were over the moon for their guys. Just nice to see you know
Starting point is 00:51:22 It's nice to see that long out Luke was gaffney jim pierre former you know technical director of the show and friend of of the main card minute was he just On fire after this yeah, he was live for it. He was loving it He also put in the haitian parlay that gene and neil magne cash that oh wow Should get andre burto in there for like a triple parlay got a fight though. Yeah, there you go there you go Big win for that was a fight coming up. No, I'm saying he would have to have a fight coming up. Shout out to André Berto. Big win in the main event, big win for PFL. Also though, that co-main event,
Starting point is 00:51:53 the featherweight tournament final, on being in Mowlid Habu-Layev, the 2021 PFL featherweight tournament champion became a two-time champion when he submitted red hot Jesus Pinedo in round five. Now with a 24-0-1 record, Khabib Dermagomedov in his corner. Luke, holy crap. First of all, this fight was killer fun, despite Habulayev taking him down at will. When they were on the feet, they both landed some big strikes. How much is the MMA world though sleeping on the 35 year old Habulayev when you consider,
Starting point is 00:52:30 I know he had a PED test that he failed in recent years. I know he lost a fight to Daniel Pineda by TKO, but it was overruled when Pineda failed the drug test himself. Outside of that, 24-0-1-1, got Habib in his corner and does fight in a Habib light style that's pretty damn impressive. Would you say people are sleeping on him or would you say he's kind of just starting to really put it together right now? It's a weird one, right? Because he was starting to put it together earlier and then had some hiccups in his career. And then as we indicated, he kind of, I won't say limped to the finish line here of getting the Paneto fight,
Starting point is 00:52:58 but his run through the tourney to get to the Paneto fight was not nearly as interesting or fun as Panado's run, which we had talked about quite a bit. However, then they got there and the wrestling difference was significant enough where he was able to get the win. Although there were times we see he was getting lit up on the feet by Panado who could not manage his own attack, but nevertheless was able to get through at times. I mean, I'm not sure how I feel about Movalid. Like on the one hand, he clearly is a winner and he clearly has this skillset where you just look at that division at PFL and you think to yourself, who could reasonably,
Starting point is 00:53:32 if Pinedo can't take it from him, who could? And I don't have an answer for you. At the same time, I do not see him as so overwhelming and inevitable as I've seen other top grapplers. Why, his busy top game and he's constantly adjusting and keeping you down. Are you saying this is more of the deficiencies in the takedown and the grappling ability of...
Starting point is 00:53:50 Being busy on top doesn't tell me much. I don't really care about that. I care about what kind of change you can effectuate. And he wasn't really all that great at doing that. I was... Can you show the picture of Habib? I was impressed to see the Habib influence in the corner and the pride that Habib had in him. Yeah. From that Abdulmanap coaching tree. I don't know, two-time champion still unbeaten? He's a problem to deal with.
Starting point is 00:54:13 You're asking me, where would I rank him in the UFC's heavyweight? Where would I rank him in the UFC's featherweight division? Who could he beat? Could he beat Brian Ortega? Probably. Probably. Yes. Could he beat Yair Rodriguez? I don't know. I'm sure he's still out on that. Five round fight, I'm not sure how I'd feel about that. Can he beat Kevin Vallejos right now? Yeah, probably. But you know, like would I favor him to beat Diego Lopez? No, I would not. I would not favor him. I think Lopez's guard and play underneath would be a bit of a problem for him. But you would say Habulayev is coming into his own at 34. Like this is, we're starting to see the best of him.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I thought this was the best performance he had in the entire tournament, honestly. You could maybe make a case outside of the Kennedy fight that he had a better performance. But what I'm trying to say is, given the quality of opposition and friendly, you know, Pinedo is dangerous and fucking relentless. He had a few moments when he would get up. He had some scary moments in there for sure. So for that reason, Hubbell Live's performance here was the best he's had actually quite some time. It's just in the whole group of it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Am I fully overwhelmed? No, not fully, but he's a quality solid fighter. Hubbell Live was the underdog from a betting standpoint. Here he's talking about that along with the impact of Coach Abib. Movli, you're a 2025 World Tournament champion. Pinedo was favor though. Did you expect to win in such dominant fashion? I never doubted my skills. I was very uncomfortable for him. I don't know how they could consider him a favorite. But I expected it to happen. How important was it to have Khabib in your corner? How important was it to have Khabib in your corner?
Starting point is 00:56:07 Of course, I started my first professional fight with Khabib in 2011. We fought in the same card. Since then, we've been training together. He helps with the training. As you saw in the corner, what he advised is very important to you. Yes, it's very important to have Khabib in my corner. He's a great athlete and he's got that look down. He does. He's a little too short for it though. Yeah, that's a good point. Luke, on this undercard, these were the only tournament championship fights, a bunch of other fights,
Starting point is 00:56:57 but there was some controversy that came out of this prelim fight where Frederick Dupra choked out Nathan Kelly unconscious, but the female referee, I wasn't able to get her name, did not stop it in time, prelim fight where Frederick Dupra choked out Nathan Kelly unconscious with a female referee. I was unable to get her name did not stop it in time and you had a lot of people calling for her removal. What did you make of this? There's the tap. Yeah, there's the tap. She's on the wrong side to see it. And this dude just getting choked to death. Hold on. And then finally she's like, wait, I think he's out. Yeah, I mean, it's not great. I've definitely seen worse
Starting point is 00:57:29 It's not great. It's not great. She she did not do a great job She's on the wrong side of it, but just understand like oh there was a mass of I know no one wants to hear this sure I'm in MMA whenever there is a vast I'm in MMA whenever there is a vast condemnatory attitude towards any kind of woman in power I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying I'm gonna double-check. Oh, this is one of those like I'm gonna double-check. So in this particular case, she's no no Why are you making that face I don't I didn't think this was going to be your analysis. No, no, no. I'm not. My analysis is if you notice when the highlight starts, he taps on one side.
Starting point is 00:58:11 She's on the wrong side. She did a bad job. The argument is not that she did a good job. She did a bad job. My I'm saying to you, my instinct is, oh, soccer mom is out here. Somebody throw a dildo on the WNBA. Let me double check. The tape is my attitude. And I double throw a dildo on the WNBA floor.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Let me double check the tape is my attitude. And I double check the tape and it's not great. Like she did a bad job. I've definitely seen worse. But this is the problem. Where was this one? This was in Atlantic City. Now New Jersey typically has better referees. She may have, she made a mistake. She made a mistake. There's no other way to say it.
Starting point is 00:58:44 She made a mistake. So I don't way to say it. She made a mistake. So I don't know what the full, have you seen her before? I've never seen her before, no. Tip, I'm gonna say this. Whenever they go to Florida or Arizona or whatever, you might see some of the junior level refs, not your Herb Deans or whoever, on like the mid and then prelim card.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And so I think it's what you got here. They were trying to work it out, but it didn't really work out in their favor this time So I gotcha I gotcha he lived Don't you go dying on me all right that was your PFL recap over the weekend Jordan Newman oh yeah, what do you got who we spotlight on Friday the D3 national champ What college I think the University of Wisconsin Whitewater or something like that. So dude fight opens and he's got this big hulking guy in
Starting point is 00:59:31 front of him who's just marching him down drops him I think with a straight straight punch I forget which one it was could even been a jab but drops him and Newman like covers up and I'm like oh this guy's about to lose about to get his his o taken hangs on hangs hangs on, reverses everything. Then he's the one dealing, beats the shit out of the guy, makes it to the end of the round. The round two is about to start and his opponent refuses to get off the stool. Jordan not human Newman.
Starting point is 00:59:59 That's a great nickname. That's such a great nickname, right? Now he's got some stuff to work on. He's still a great nickname, right? Now, he's got some stuff to work on. He's still a little green, but the resiliency that he showed in that fight, woo, very, very good. All right, that's a name to watch moving forward. Luke, moving forward, we're in the midst of the dog days of summer, so we're talking about swamp ass.
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Starting point is 01:03:36 Okay, go with Mando. I'm wearing it right now. It makes me feel good. All right, thank you, Mando. Look, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna kill time, Luke. We're gonna bring back a segment we used to do back in the day, looking at the latest headlines, forcing Luke Thomas into the hot seat to give us not a Luke Thomas, because you know what Luke Thomas normally does? He either gives us no answer or he gives us 17 answers.
Starting point is 01:03:59 I want one answer. I got one. I got someone tweeting me about this. The ref missing Gagee's tap to habib Was worse than this lady's refereeing the outrage then was not as bad. You're completely right Luke. I Mean Alistair did feel it also, okay This one's all fill in the blank Yeah, all right nice opening animation there we didn't save that from the Showtime era I just show my ass? Luke, I've got eight questions for you, eight statements,
Starting point is 01:04:28 and you are going to have to fill in the blank based on your preference. Number one, known forever as the Let Me Bang Bro Man. You know that guy, right? Former UFC fighter Julian Lane reached a career milestone on Saturday at BKFC Sturgis when the 38-year-old captured the promotion the promotions welterweight title improving to 6 and 0 since the death of his father which he would say later changed the direction of his career and snapped a 6 fight losing skid combining MMA with other various disciplines. Of course though Luke he's going to be forever known for this. Bang man, I want to do that man
Starting point is 01:05:09 I do I do Let you bang Just let me bang bro, look obviously congratulations to Julian Lane, but that's an all-time one-liner in UFC history that still lingers today. So from Iback, trust me, Iback, to Who the Fook is this guy, there have been many of those incredible one-liners. The single one-liner from UFC history
Starting point is 01:05:36 that most lives rent-free in your head is blank. Everybody's on steroids Yes, what was the context of that so I believe this one was? After he got a five-year ban for marijuana from the commode who did that interview on a cell phone outside the courthouse He was like everybody's on steroids, and it was one of those ones where it's just like I don't know for some reason that moment in time really stuck with me. But dude, you could, I mean, to the point you raise about this question,
Starting point is 01:06:08 there's a million of these. Well, I'm a, I'm a, I back, trust me. I back from Anderson Silver. So I used to joke, because that was obviously between the, when he broke his leg. Yes. And then it was, I used to joke on my show,
Starting point is 01:06:19 I going to be on I back, is how I used to say that. Long Island Luke, do you have one favorite that defines you? I don't have one favorite, but I got a few lists here I mean Chris Wideman's dad. He's still my boy. Yeah, that's a class Oh, you're even the other Nate Diaz well the other Diaz brother up, which is not surprised. I'm not surprised motherfucker I mean that dude that one In terms of post fight Rogan speeches yes that might be number one. Oh, so you're a wrestler now. Isn't that neat as well? Yeah, but that might have been pre-fight.
Starting point is 01:06:49 That was pre-fight, yeah. That was incredible. Tony, when him and Verdun got into that altercation, he's like, hold on, I'm talking, brother. That's a classic thing to do. Is it? Yeah, that's a, I'll ankle pick you. In the Noseedah House.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Oh, I'll ankle pick you, yes. Yes, in the Noseedah House, that is. Great moments there in UFC history. Let's go to number two here. Luke, three days after my 47th birthday and eight days before you turn 46 tomorrow, by the way. I do turn 46 tomorrow. Connecticut born multimillionaire and Brendan Chubb Eskimo brother Dana White turned 56
Starting point is 01:07:19 last week, which was an age that White probably never would have made it to without meeting that renowned medical shaman, Gary Brekker. Yes, who has no medical training whatsoever. In fact, here's an AI version of what Dana's birthday party probably looked like. There we go. Yep. Happy, happy, happy. Luke, imagine a scenario in which you won a
Starting point is 01:07:39 Howler, Hedder, and PowerSlap sponsored fan giveaway where you were allowed to ask Dana White one single question, anything you always wanted to know. And not only would he be forced to give you an answer off camera, you would be allowed to make one single YouTube video on your channel to relay to the public what he said. The one question you have for Dana White,
Starting point is 01:08:01 above all else, is blank, And he has to tell the truth. What is the plan for selling the UFC? Really? Yeah. Of all the history before, you're going to go with what's your future plan of selling UFC? Yeah, I mean, none of that stuff matters to me anymore. Well, not matters to me, but I wouldn't want to end. I don't have, I don't have...
Starting point is 01:08:20 Honestly, dude, after the big lawsuit, like there's not much to me that is all that interesting in terms of what's been concealed Okay to me the biggest question is are y'all planning to sell this thing and if so when? Because if they are because by the way, let's just say it out loud It's completely a rumor mill thing but one of the rumors going around today is that they might be trying to gear up for a sale of the UFC or various other TKO assets, and in particular to the Saudis. Or the UAE?
Starting point is 01:08:50 Or UAE. So let's imagine a world where in four years they sell to Saudi Arabia. That's a big money in India. Yeah, would they sell it? I mean, who knows? Who knows what direction they could go? To me, it would be that.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I honestly like, what about the past? Why would I need to interrogate? You know more forcefully, and it's just one like one doesn't do me a lot of good Long out Luke you got a sort of my missing on that I mean if you could ask one frickin thing and he's gonna tell you the damn truth on it Yeah, like one concealed fact. Yeah, what would yours be then? think I'm like Fact yeah, what would yours be then think I'm like
Starting point is 01:09:29 What was in Abu as I tar's bag on fight island That's a great that isn't that's a great one right there scale on the wall and shit is an interesting one right there I don't know if I can say it on air. I have like Distinct question okay, all right, okay, all right, but for me at this point I'm less interested in trying to relitigate the past. I think I have a pretty good handle on it. It's a question about where everything is headed. That is interesting. I would want to know that. Let's go to number three here on fill in the blank.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Speaking of Dana and the UFC so much of combat sports immediate future continues to wait upon the results of UFC's current negotiation with whatever broadcast package will look like in the post ESPN world. So from the standpoint of bringing necessary change to the current watered down existence of the UFC in the TKO era, the best scenario for fans regarding UFC's next broadcast deal would be blank. would be blank. Given everything we complain about on this show over the last year and a half, where is it multiple homes? What is the best scenario that could relight, reignite the UFC in your eyes? Netflix demanding large-scale events and then paying to produce them in such a way that they looked like
Starting point is 01:10:47 The borrow from terminology of Scott Coker tentpole events. Okay now I know what you might say aren't pay-per-views existing tentpole events, but what I'm saying to you is yes on some level Of course they are But something a little bit beyond that BC or something a little bit maybe even different, maybe even if it isn't as big, just something that recaptures casual sports fan enthusiasm by putting more of a white glove treatment on it. Some something, you know how like they like the white glove and bespoke treatment on their own legislation
Starting point is 01:11:18 that they want to get? They should do that to their own product. So are you saying signing up, which is a reality potentially with Netflix for like six premiere pay-per-view events each year? Something like that, yeah. Something... Let's put really good events in someone else's hands for the first time. Now, I understand UFC controls are in production,
Starting point is 01:11:39 but certainly the whole point of going to Netflix, I'm imagining, would be not just the scale of the audience you could reach But the way in which Netflix might want so for example Netflix and I didn't really understand this until recently but Netflix has like a consistent look that they like for their programming and Obviously NFL can't look like UFC like Jake Paul fighting Mike Tyson But there can be some some similarities And what we saw at that last fight between Serrano and Taylor.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I talked to people that worked on the production side of that. They said that Netflix spent a ridiculous amount of money to make it look that good with every single bell and whistle possible. Put that into UFC. That's what I'm talking about. In a dome or that doesn't matter?
Starting point is 01:12:19 I don't give a shit. Okay. That kind of, and it's not just the money. It's not just the money. It's like someone with a different eye. Bring it all in, make it new, make it fresh. I would love that particularly because one of my biggest gripes in the last year and a half was UFC took cards that used to be majors, that used to be like, oh shit, we're gonna get really good main cards
Starting point is 01:12:37 or really big main events when it's MSG or when it's this or that. Pick what you thought the majors used to be. That's changed now. Now, like, I mean, whether it was 300, whether it was the Sphere, they caught it sort of like backdoored into the matchmaking of whatever was available at the moment. And they seem largely unprepared. Like it wasn't like, oh, we've got the Sphere in six months.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Let's get the most badass main and co main to pair with this. It was sort of like, well, who's up? OK, Shevchenko. You know what I mean? It was like random. Same thing with UFC 300. Same thing with a few of those. If it was Netflix basically saying, we only want your best of the best, then they have to change the way they matchmake from a dip,
Starting point is 01:13:12 from a from a long range point of view. Agreed. And really focus on that. You also could have said as an alternate answer, less less total flight cards. Yes, I mean, I don't know how realistic that is, just the way which the people think you can just do less. You would have to trim the roster. Yes. I mean, I don't know how realistic that is just the way which to mean that People think you can just do less you would have to trim the roster Okay, there's just no other way to trim it and to do it without trimming the roster subsequently
Starting point is 01:13:32 And then I think that has some pretty big consequences for the industry So yes, one of the options was burn the apex down. I don't think you would want to do that I mean I realize that spiritually it is so devoid of any kind of value, but I I think you would want to do that. I mean, I realize that spiritually it is so devoid of any kind of value, but I don't think that's a wise idea. What I would say though is, you know, mandate, like tier two product should go there. Contender series should go there. UFC BJJ should go there. UFC should only go there in the event of an emergency.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Other than that, they should be somewhere else. Like if John Jones fails a drug test in one jurisdiction, you want to move the card to Christmas, just move it right to the apex. I'm with you on that. Let's go to number four on Phil in the blank. Logan Paul on Saturday night delivered the oh shit moment of the night during night one of WWE Summer Slam
Starting point is 01:14:20 at MetLife Stadium, jumping off the top of the ring post to splash entertainer Jelly Roll through the table in the midst of their celebrity crossover match right there. I mean that was very impressive, was that not? With the two prime bottles? Did you see how far he jumped? Did you see how high and how far he jumped? Seriously.
Starting point is 01:14:38 He is a good athlete. He's an insane athlete. Luke, we all know that Luke Thomas detests pro wrestling and we all know that I love the genre at times, but certainly not during this TKO infested greed era that has also watered down the UFC and has the potential to do the same thing to my beloved boxing, notwithstanding.
Starting point is 01:14:56 With that said, it would be really hard for someone like you, born in 1979, to go all 46 years without having a single wrestling match stand out to you. I have any form the most memorable single pro wrestling match of Luke Thomas's entire lifetime was blank. Macho man Randy Savage versus Ricky the Dragon steam. Dude WrestleMania three intercontinental championship. That's a great match.
Starting point is 01:15:22 That's my answer too. That's your answer really? It's one or the other. It's either Hogan Andre That's that's my answer, too. Oh, that's your answer, really? It's it's one or the other. It's either Hogan Andre, which was the main event of that one, because it was just so insane. It was such a bit for a little, you know, for the look. It was so big. But it was the Macho Man steamboat one with all of those false finishes, right?
Starting point is 01:15:38 All those near pins one after another. And such a great story. That was the first time I felt something different in a wrestling match. Watching like, holy shit, that was all gotten about it for a while. and such a great story. That was the first time I felt something different in a wrestling match watching. Like, holy shit, that was hard. I had forgotten about it for a while, and then somebody reminded of me a few years ago. Dude, I thought you were gonna give a bullshit answer.
Starting point is 01:15:53 This is great. No, and I went back and I watched parts of it, and I was like, holy shit, this thing was pretty good. It was way ahead of its time. That match was less than 15 minutes, and it was just so perfect. That's insane. That's insane. What about you, Long Island Luke? I'm like you, Luke, where I like only remember it really as a kid. I'm going to go mankind getting like slammed through the gas.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I remember I don't remember who's cell against Undertaker. Mick Foley was like 10 different guys. He was just wait. So his real name's Mick Foley. I know he was. He was Cactus Jack. Cactus Jack, dude, love mankind and dude love. And he would alternate sometimes in the same night different Oh, is that right? Fun fact Mick Foley used to work with my dad where? So my dad's a landscape architect Mick Foley early days of pro wrestling was a landscaper on the side and work with my dad
Starting point is 01:16:38 I met him back in the day. Oh, yeah, that's wild. All right. Why I'm so happy You said that that match is just I wrote in a five thousand word oral history I'm really sbn 2017. Holy shit interviewed everyone. That was still this is no, this is total coincidence. Yeah, that's wild All right great answer number five here out of eight fill in the blanks Canel Laveras was asked this week by the ring magazine social account to speak up the first boxer's name He hears that his September 13th opponent Ter Terrence Crawford, is better than. So they're going to read him a bunch of names of all-time fighters, and as soon as he hears somebody that Crawford's better than, he speaks up. Let's, let's, let's check.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Felix Trinidad. Oscar De La Hoya. Manny Pacquiao. Dimitri Bevil Arts are better be a look at his face Bernard Hopkins. Well, dude these names are no other They're like damn really did you not understand the question? No, that's that, that's his opinion. Those are all great all-time greats, okay Yeah, where are you on the Trinidad one? I? Think but as the potential to pass them. Okay Trinidad was to me. That was the closest one
Starting point is 01:17:53 Yeah, this fill-in-the-blank is actually a trivia question. So here we go. All right blank Comma a former two-time champion and 2004 Olympic silver medalist was the only Common Pro opponent who has fought both Canelo and Bud Crawford The former two-time champion and 2004 Olympic silver medalist was the only man as a professional to fight both Canelo and Crawford and I have a hint if you need it. Amir Khan? Yes! Nicely done!
Starting point is 01:18:28 There you go. Alright! Alright! That was effortless for me. Yeah, it took me a second. I was like, who the fuck has fought both of them? And then I remembered that the problem is, you know what it is? That Bud Crawford and Amir Khan fight was so terrible because Amir was like, you know what? Fuck this, I'm out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:42 Like, he just quit. Like, I'm just fucking done. Dude, that, I was ringside for. They called it Conello when Con and Conello fought. Conello, yeah. And although Con fought great for four and a half rounds, dude, when he got hit with that one punch in round six. He got murdered. I remember like I felt gross inside.
Starting point is 01:18:57 That was like a shotgun went off and you were like, oh my God, he's dead. You know what I mean? They got him. That was a bad one. That one and the James Kirkland KOs are two of the most vicious ones Canelo has.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Vicious indeed. Oh, let's go to number six. Back when he was trying. UFC and Cuervo, speaking of Cuervo, have teamed up for a very interesting fan giveaway with a winner. This is a true story. We'll get the chance to train
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Starting point is 01:19:36 This is wild, right? You get to hang out. You get to train. You get to roll and then you get to pay in her for that. If here's my question, if Luke Thomas won this contest in 2025 blank is the current UFC fighter he would pick to train and go clubbing with Prior to his milk boys appearance. I would have said I mean my man just nuked his whole fucking likeability um
Starting point is 01:20:07 All right, so it would have been alia But do he goes a little hard right and which part of the paint you're talking about the club or the training probably both But definitely in the training yeah, like you're seeing guys like oh, let me give a body shot He doesn't he doesn't really hold all that back all that much. So the question one more time. They were just read it as such All that much though the question one more time. They were just read it as such If Luke I was the current fire, okay I would pick to club and train when you win the contest you get to have an actual training session Yeah, and then you're going out at night Jesus that's tough
Starting point is 01:20:38 I think I'm picking Tracy Sticking with the with the theme right there. Okay that's hilarious. I'm gonna go Yuri Prochatchka. Why? Because I have the feeling that he's friendly and down to party. Remember he had to clear if I want because he was like, I'm going to go
Starting point is 01:21:06 have a meeting with a bunch of guys and are waiting in my hotel room. Just to be clear, we will not be back. Yeah. And I'm like, all right, I'm down. And then I think on the training side, he'd make it fun and interesting. Yeah. You would do some weird like seagull type shit.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Or for sure. For sure. And then we'd sit in a dark room and then have smooth dumps. But, you know, it'd be fun It'd be fun. I think my number two would be Fiona. I'll impress that'd be wild, right? It's like they're like, okay We see your choices are Elliot's a poria Nate Diaz and Cory Sandhagen. He's like Tracy Cortez Long Alan Luke serious question who you picking? I said this pre show I'm going tie to a Vasa because I think he'd be the most fun to party with he's so fat right?
Starting point is 01:21:44 Yeah, and then a real fat. And to your point, Luke, Ilya would train too hard. Maybe you get a nice easy session in with Ty and then you just go get wasted. It'd be a fun time. That's actually not a bad argument. The second hand runoff, you'd get hanging with Toporio though? Yeah, I also have a feeling that the Taffa brothers are probably real fun. I'm not taking that tour.
Starting point is 01:21:59 No? Not in any form, no. They'd knock you the fuck out if you got sideways with them. I think Jack Della is a good hang. Jack seems like he's pretty fun, you know Definitely somebody who can booze. Yeah. Yeah, that's true There's a lot of these fires are real good that you know wouldn't be that fun in the club You know, I don't know if rock Mon off would be like super fun No, no, no, no, no, no, no fun to train with. Yeah. Yeah, you can't talk shots of Sean Brady
Starting point is 01:22:20 I bet he's fun to Alex Sean. Sean Brady's a great dude. That dude works hard in the gym, man Yeah, you see he called out Shavkat Rachmanov? No, but I'm into that. He called out on his podcast. He wants Rachmanov, I think, at the end of the year. I thought he was getting Gary. Or we were speculating. You might, right? Apparently. I mean, who knows what... He's the same manager as Gary, so I'm guessing he's getting word that he's having... Which manager?
Starting point is 01:22:40 I forget. I don't know. Not Danny Rube, right? No, I don't think so. It's Lloyd something, isn't it? Oh, yeah, right? That's right Lloyd Pearson Let's go to number seven Luke major league baseball got creative this past weekend when it held an actual game within the infield of The fucking disaster motor Speedway look at this Unfortunately the event was marred by both rain and poor Infrastructure as angry fans compared it to firefest when the venue ran out of food before the game even started and booze ran out of
Starting point is 01:23:10 beer before the game even started ran out of merch before the game even started. Also if you bought nachos, they didn't have any cheese. If you bought hot dogs, they didn't have any buns. I took a dump in his hand. Now to be fair, Bristol Motor Speedway allows NASCAR fans to bring their own food, even though they do sell a little bit. For this one, you are not allowed to bring anything. And the game was canceled Saturday after one inning.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I think they did they pick it up again yesterday? I don't know. But can you show that picture again of some of those seats that were just that were just ridiculous? What the fuck are you supposed to do with the seat? That's rough. That is pretty damn unique idea But it is rough so Luke outside of the White House lawn which has already been announced or at least speculated
Starting point is 01:23:53 Blank is the most unique venue that you would want to see the UFC run a fight card at Now it has to be a traditional venue or like any kind of space? No, it's non-traditional. That's the point. Think of the NHL doing the outdoor ones in the baseball stadiums. Think of Major League Baseball going to the Field of Dreams in Iowa or doing this at the race car track. Man, that's a, oof, that's a really great question.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Because you've got to think of infrastructure. You've got to think of everything that goes with that. Could you go first? I know this is not like either or, but do you have like one that would stand out to you? I mean, just first and foremost, something like Yankee Stadium, for example. In the center of the field with a top above it
Starting point is 01:24:34 to potentially outdoor, something like that in a traditional famous stadium I'd be very into. I don't want Alcatraz, I don't want Times Square, but there's gotta be other things that could work man That is that is that is such a great question I'm trying to think of like what would be you know cuz I've got my own things that be personally appealing to me But that's different than like what I think would be the best for the situation Roman Coliseum you're not gonna go there. I mean I think you could but like
Starting point is 01:25:03 Me like that's a little weird of a come. I mean it's like people like we're murdered brutally in there Like it's a little weird. It's like when people have like, you know, we're gonna go have an event at a plantation It's like yeah Sure, you want to do that? Ask Pat Melton. She said the steps at the gen six Yeah, the steps that's on the Capitol building I would say you know, something that I feel like really hasn't been done that I do think would be beautiful. I'm not sure what the facility would be,
Starting point is 01:25:30 but some kind of outdoor event in Hawaii feels to me. It'd be badass. Would be really kind of cool. Like a real fight out, actually like an octagon on the beach, right? Yeah, something like that. You know, they did it with Bodog, not in Hawaii, but they did something similar to it.
Starting point is 01:25:43 And I remember Chil Son and saying like the- Costa Rica. There was rain coming in sideways at times. The mat was slippery all this. If you've never seen Kane Velasquez's fights on Bodog fight, go look them up and then understand something. It was a set that was built, you can't tell from watching it, but it's a set that was built on top of a hockey rink in Russia. So it's just the weirdest shit ever. I don't have a great answer for you because I have to take some time to think about it. I think once they figure out how to do stadiums, and I'm talking more like domes, but once they figure out how to do that, and that's what I'm hoping Canelo Crawford leads to that, because I would love if UFC went to Wembley Stadium outdoors in London. I think Yankee Stadium, Dodger Stadium, outlets like, you for play venues like that to me are no-brainer
Starting point is 01:26:25 Even though Dana doesn't like doing that Rose Bowl Rose Bowl is a great idea as well. What about like Central Park? I mean, there's a lot of infrastructure to build a park's a great idea. Yeah, you could do it again It'd be somewhat limited, but you could do it. That's like that's an interesting one Well now Luke you got anything I know you're gonna say the that movie theater in Huntington where Chris Algeria used to fight. Oh, the Paramount? Yeah. Now, I was with you on Yankee Stadium and stuff, but I feel like that's more just a personal thing. What about like Grand Canyon or like Niagara Falls? Like some nice scenic
Starting point is 01:26:56 show going on in the background. El Capitan, the half dome. Oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, fist fighting works in carnivals. It doesn't you know, that's why it's weird to put it on the White House lawn, but yeah a big fight I would just say this to me the answer would be who's fighting and Can we bring it back to where they're from in some kind of scenic way? So you don't want like Guantanamo Bay and the losers get deported. Yeah, I don't extend to see caught no No, but like for example, if you are gonna have a Spanish fighter,
Starting point is 01:27:25 is there a place in Spain that would make sense if you're gonna have a Hawaiian fighter? Is there a place in Hawaii that makes sense besides Blaisdale, which is indoors? Something like that. Okay, interesting stuff. One more for you on Phil in the Blank. Don't know if this segment will ever return,
Starting point is 01:27:38 but Luke, sadly, I do not believe the prospect of former champion and female MMA go Amanda Noon is coming out of retirement to fight for her former belt against current title holder Kayla Harrison. Has MMA fans as excited as I think they should be given the star power and the potential that maybe this matchup injects some life into the women's MMA game in general? Not counting Jon Jones, the retired UFC champion
Starting point is 01:28:03 you most wish could come out of retirement right now to fight the current belt holder in their former division is blank. We're not talking about like you can't say, you know, somebody from 20 years. It's gotta be somebody who's still physically able. Which retired champion would you most like to see come back
Starting point is 01:28:23 and face the current champion in their division? It's a good question. Habib against Ilya. Damn that's a great fight. Yeah. How old is Habib right now? Like mid to late 30s? I think 36, 37 maybe. You think he could get into shape and make 155 again for this? I, I don't know if he could He's 36 36. Yeah, that's about the closest I think it's okay. So no GSP That we know I think he's too he's too out of it now Andy Silva's too old
Starting point is 01:28:56 That's a good that's that's probably the answer most people would come yeah, what about you there long around DJ DJ Pantoja That's a great one, dude But the problem is okay. That's definitely a great choice but and it's true of Habib to let's really just a preference thing but I Do believe that like if it was like two three years ago You would really get a very competitive fight now I think the worm has turned just enough in Pantoja's favor than against DJ where it's not as competitive as it could have been But to your point great call. Yes. Hey
Starting point is 01:29:28 DC at heavyweight no too far gone. I Don't think he'd beat Tom at this stage because boy he is fat. I Love DC. I love I'm killing him, but I like him No, it's too far gone. Okay, it's too far. Habib is is is the is the closest one. Yeah. And that would be wild if he fought Elia and then Islam got got Elia next after that. Elia won. Yeah. That'd be wild right there. All right. That's all I got for Phil in the blank.
Starting point is 01:29:56 There it is. There it is. Hope you enjoyed that one. Two more segments for you. First of all, every Sunday night, though, at morning combat on Instagram and on X, we put out the call to you to get your questions asked and answered by us. Your name is probably Flannels and Jits or Daz. Either way we're gonna mahalo your ass with DMs from the Diggity. Alright number one comes to us from Javon Lewis 20. Buy or sell three or more of Saturday's winners will fight,
Starting point is 01:30:30 but not necessarily win a UFC belt in the future. Is he talking about this past Saturday's fight night card? If any, who wins it? Don't forget the women's Bantamweight ballot. So, Luke, are you buying or selling that three people from that Apex warehouse card will eventually fight for a title I Think it implies we're including PFL as well Saturday's winners could include that gene kind of the idea I think he's just saying UFC. I would sell that I would not buy that okay
Starting point is 01:30:57 We're talking Tatsu or Tyra probably will fight for a title right and then Kevin Kevin via Joe's that's it So and so I think the wild card that he did mention was Women's Bannoway. Could maybe Rin Nakamura. Could Carol Hosa or? Maybe it's possible, it's possible. I'm gonna sell too, yeah. I'll probably sell though.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I'm gonna sell that one, but nice try there, Javon Lewis. Let's go over to It's- It's Javon. Javon Lewis. Javon Lewis, I'm sorry. It's Not Cage Fighting says, what's more important to you in determining a fight cards order, the stakes of the fight or its entertainment value?
Starting point is 01:31:30 I.E. should a low ranked fight expected to be a classic get higher billing than a title eliminator in a week division? I think you can also extend this to when they put a women's title bout in the co-main event of a pay per view. If it's a week matchup and we're all like, I'm not really excited about that, would it be okay if that opened the pay-per-view, for example? Let's say it was Shevchenko against Kaitlyn Chukagian, right?
Starting point is 01:31:51 Like, is it okay if that opens the pay-per-view card or is the is the featured prelim? Like, how would you want to reorder? There's not really a wrong answer to the question. It's just one of the things you have to think about is if you're going to buck tradition and buck norms, so the norms would be, hey, I know it may not be the
Starting point is 01:32:08 most exciting, but it is a title fight, it is one of our divisions, we're going to put it in the appropriate slot that we typically assign for these things. If you're going to break that tradition, you can do it. I don't think it's much of an issue. But you have to ask yourself, like, why you're doing it? And under what reasons you're doing it? And are you applying that equally across all the divisions where it could be Could be done and then what how are you changing your product as a consequence? You just really have to ask yourself is
Starting point is 01:32:35 The reason why the norms are upheld in the way that they are is out of respect for the divisions themselves, right? That's why it's like are we saying that this fight is the best? No, we're saying a fight from this division of this magnitude deserves a special kind of placement. Like Max, Max versus Justin Gaethje at 300 should have been the main event, or could have been. Could have been the main event, but I understand why they are assigning it under these formal roles.
Starting point is 01:33:03 So my answer to that would be you can break them if you really feel like you've got a great case for it, but otherwise I think respecting tradition is actually valuable here. Yeah, I mean it would be rare that there would be a non-title fight on cards with title fights that would get top billing, that's very rare. That's very rare.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Unless it's BMF, which they've done before. All right, I get that. I mean we've said that about even at the tail end of Bellator sometimes like the best fight Card would be the co-main. We're like man. That should have been the main event right, but they're like oh, but the higher more profile division Yes, yes, it's just a question of also how they build their events to sure sure our third question comes from Christina Pinto Underscore be JJ. Do you know this person? I believe this person is a medical doctor. Wow. Wonderful. Would you rather take an uppercut straight to the chin from Francis and Gano or be forced to live in Newark Penn Station for a week? So when she says live in it, I'll take my chances.
Starting point is 01:33:56 If you're not getting a caught in the back room, if you're living in Newark Penn Station, you're you're sleeping on the floor. Yeah, I would do that before getting my face rearranged by Big Francis. I don't know, dude. floor. Yeah, I would do that before getting my face rearranged by Big Francis I don't know dude you I mean I I spent five minutes So when I went to what there's a in the Marine Corps If you're a reservist you go to boot camp one summer and then you go to If you break it up for school and then the next summer you go to MOS school
Starting point is 01:34:21 Which is your job specialty and then after that you have to go to what's called MCT Marine combat training so I go to MCT and I get injured Okay, and then I have to go into this platoon where it's all what we call broke dicks And it's all people who are but it's everyone who's got an ailment for any number of reasons one guy literally This is a true story BC, and I felt so bad for this guy He had one ball that Surrounded that that cut off the flow of the other one. I know a guy when I was a kid, there was balls switch sides and he had surgery. He had to have surgery. He was he could barely move. He was in pain.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Another guy broke his jaw and had it wired shut. And had to drink straight shakes for six weeks while he was in there or maybe even longer. Did it look like hell on earth for that guy. I would rather take my chances among the rats and homeless. Dude, she's saying a week at Newark Penn. This is not one night, Luke.
Starting point is 01:35:14 You are a homeless person living there. Yeah. Do I get to leave during the day and stuff? Of course you do. Yeah, so that's not that day. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is, I believe this is 24-7 there, right? You're just not like you. I think it's just you sleep there. Really, I can't go to McDonald's and go get bad. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is, I believe this is 24-7 there, right? You're just not like you.
Starting point is 01:35:25 I think it's just you sleep there. Really? I can't go to McDonald's and go get food? She's saying live. Okay, yeah, you can leave to go to the store, but she's saying live. Yeah, I can do that. For a week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:34 I was in that place for five minutes once and got harassed by like three different people, okay? But here's the deal. If I'm guaranteed that the punch only moves my chin and knocks me out and that's it, that's not that bad, but Nganu has the power to like rearrange your jaw its slap fighting with punches with Francis in Ghana What are the chances he wouldn't break your face by punching you that he can just straight clean knock you out He but it's an uppercut, so it's coming straight up. That's gonna. Yeah, dude. I'll just stop
Starting point is 01:36:01 I'll fight it out in Penn Station a week dude a week You think over him would rather live in Penn Station for a week? That's the isn't that the nastiest single strike in UFC is hit the back of his head touched his back Right when it snapped that's my favorite knockout ever. It's the nastiest one ever. It's just so insane that uppercut that one was special Number four is from probably Brian one of those Brian with a Y type guys in light of Luke's recent travels and Bowel movements I got some hate mail about that too what oh yeah people think you you're doing this know-it-all thing from it's not know-it-all Thing I'm fucking right. I'm so I'm so sorry to tell people this I'm fucking right says the guy who doesn't live in Europe Are you speaking for all of Europe?
Starting point is 01:36:45 I'm not speaking for all of Europe. Dude, do people have listening comprehension issues? I don't, I definitely do. The argument was twofold. One, that there are places throughout Europe where you have to throw it in a trash can versus not. And then the second one is the lack of urinal cakes, which by the way is just the way it's done in the UK.
Starting point is 01:37:00 There's very few places that have urinal cakes. I've seen a lot of people come back in the comments and be like, I live in the UK. I have urinal cakes everywhere. These people are not telling the fucking truth. BC, BC, BC. You're talking to scousers right now. You're talking to. BC. It is so fucking disingenuous of them to say this. It is so fucking disingenuous. Can you find places that use urinal cakes? Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Relative to the degree that we have here, it's not even in the same fucking ballpark. It's not even in the same fucking ballpark. You're fucking wrong. Travel here, then go back home and tell me it's the same. Motherfucker, it's not. Imagine being passionate about an argument about your location. I'm tired of going into these fucking bathrooms in Europe and they all have they all everywhere every bathroom in Europe smells like Newark Penn. Yeah, but your point is Turkey and that's like basically Asia, you know It's it's it's really not and it's not Turkey
Starting point is 01:37:54 It's also Greece and it was also Portugal and probably just a million other places about it, too Is it in every place in Switzerland? No, of course not go to Lithuania and find out all right I don't know if it's in Lithuania or not or Estonia or any of the Baltic states real question from probably Brian I can hit in behind that reference is what is the place you've wanted to travel to but haven't yet I can give you a million you could too What's the number one place you haven't been to that you would go if I said free trip tomorrow? There's two answers in their tide okay ready. Yes number one Seoul, South Korea Dying to go see Seoul, South Korea number Korea number two Buenos Aires Argentina. Those are the two
Starting point is 01:38:27 Those are the two. I number one would be Tokyo and I was supposed to be there good one for Ryan Garcia versus that kickboxer They stole that from me. I know I didn't get paid for hosting the press conference. Thank you. Thank you, Femio Um all but I would also put in there. Um, I Forever because I took French in school for five years, I'm kind of half French. Yeah, kind of, yeah. I wanna do like the French Alps. I wanna do like all of that country France.
Starting point is 01:38:54 I wanna rent a car and drive all over France. That'd be cool. Yeah, yeah. What about you, Long Island? I'd say just like the whole European excursion going through all those countries. I've been to England, but I've never really explored the rest of Europe, Western Europe. I want to go to weird European places like Andorra up in the mountains.
Starting point is 01:39:10 You've never been to mainland Europe? No, I had two business trips in London. Otherwise I've never been over there. London is nice. Would you go to Kazakhstan? I would, under the right circumstances. Far. I mean one of the big issues now is just like timing because of how far everything is what country Was the most dangerous that you ever visit or even if it wasn't dangerous for you while you were there has the reputation for being the most Egypt was a little sketch. Okay, Egypt was good. You went to Lebanon, right?
Starting point is 01:39:37 Lebanon was that quite safe at the time that I went Syria. I've been to no I've never been to Syria I've been to no, I've not been to Syria. I've been to Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia as a kid. Oh, I lived in Qatar. Yep. Japan. I mean, I've lived a bit on Qatar. I just met her. I was a kid at that time, too.
Starting point is 01:40:00 You know, so I've been I've been to a bunch of places. Let's go to our fifth and final DM before we pick colonels out of my shit here. This is from sticks plays time Walk me through a perfect date night with your significant other Going out or staying in I regale you with my dating life who the fuck cares? I think they want details to like are you banging early? You know, I don't I don't want to know that but like he's did he ask that or did I just assume he meant that all right? He's okay, so the questions longer I'll read you the full question walk me through a perfect date night with your significant other
Starting point is 01:40:34 Going out or staying in movie or live show Viagra and banging or Delta 8 and Roman, okay? So go through the checklist one more time going out or staying in Okay, so go through the checklist one more time going out or staying in Going out. Yeah, perfect date night is going out to a nice restaurant. Yeah, right for sure Yeah, not crazy expensive, but like a doesn't have to be dinner if it's a show doesn't have to be both But it can be one or the other. Okay, then it says movie or live show live show. Yes My wife and I don't like the same kind of music. She's not a huge live music fan Unless I like play or like she would do that Live show. Yes. My wife and I don't like the same kind of music. She's not a huge live music fan unless it's like... What about like a play or like a...
Starting point is 01:41:06 She would do that. Yeah, we when we did a Broadway play we went we did a couple play at smaller plays Yeah, I think that's like a Vegas show like a like a Cirque du Soleil Vegas show is kind of cool That is that is cool. That is cool. And it says Viagra and banging or Delta 8s in romance This guy's really... I'm gonna say split the difference Deltara and banging or Delta 8s in romance? This guy's really- I'm gonna say split the difference, Delta 8 and banging. I'm gonna say I'm married so you don't really bang. I'm kidding. Yeah, no, a great date night these days
Starting point is 01:41:35 with my lovely wife is dinner, sometimes a movie, you know what I mean? We do much more, all of our, 90% of our anniversaries have been spent with the kids. Yeah. Because we just love being a foursome. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely going to be going out. The thing is about I said this before, like I've done the thing where you spend a bunch of money going to a really nice restaurant and sometimes those are nice. But like most of the time you get
Starting point is 01:41:59 the bill and you're like, don't get me wrong. I had great food and the service was great. I mean, there was nothing wrong, but this just doesn't seem like the juice is worth the squeeze in terms of how much money they cost yeah I'm with you. We had a great anniversary a couple years ago where we went to New York We went to like one of those like mom-and-pop Italian places You know down in the Wall Street area and spend the like 300 bucks on dinner But it was so authentic and amazing then did the Broadway show and stayed at the hard rock and Times Square like did like The most touristy thing ever really fun, but really expensive so expensive yeah, but for me. It's gonna be going to a live show and You know certainly having something good to eat, but we are more of the of the idea of like
Starting point is 01:42:39 Be modest and don't spend on anything except for vacations because that's like that's exactly the way to live That's the that's the memory. That's the redeemable memories that you take with you I still have memories of traveling with my dad all over the Middle East and you know those are like core Memories that have been built in I want to be able to provide something like that with my kid You know and I can't do that and keep up with the Joneses So I will just do that in Long Island Luke your perfect date night is what a bong and a pfl card or bongs are packed Live show he's like no flowing. He's like no girlfriend in sight just a sausage fest to be fair You're you're I'm assuming your lovely girlfriend is a concert lover, and you guys have like the same taster
Starting point is 01:43:16 Yeah, she she she'll take any live music. She doesn't care about the genre so anytime There's a word and she wants to go see it. Yes, what about my bands would she come see those? I don't think she'd see cannibal not to be honest. She probably would I'm not even gonna lie She probably would go see interesting stuff right there. Thank you for your DM questions reminder You can reach the program using our email address morning combat at gmail.com this Friday We're gonna be hitting you with some fans So it was some dead wrongs last week's fans subs like Luke with the weird cake lady on the 9-11 flight, that's wild. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:43:47 That really was quite disturbing. I loved it. That was one of my favorite fansubs ever. You can reach us, but please don't send Mikey any pictures of your dong. Do that. Indeed. Alright, we got one final segment for you, where your boy BC, who last week I talked to Big Game, remember I was like, yo, this is gonna be like an A+, and it turned out to be like a C? Yeah. This week, we'll find out how Luke grades it.
Starting point is 01:44:06 I scoured the globe for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, and in between, and the worlds of combat sports and beyond this what's called BCs. BCs. Hooah! Somebody's taking a shot on that one. Luke, for all the people that say there's no D in the WNBA, right? Is there hall female yeah, that was like a joke on defense right? Yeah, it was terrible um Check out this game in Atlanta that happened about a week and a half ago where play was interrupted for what? a green flying dildo Luke your thoughts
Starting point is 01:44:43 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Starting point is 01:44:51 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Starting point is 01:44:59 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? insanely misogynistic. Come on, you gotta laugh at this. This is insane. It's a funny bit, but it's also insanely misogynistic. Well, the WNBA has responded by changing their logo, which is wild.
Starting point is 01:45:13 This is an actual tweet from Indiana Fever star Sophie Cunningham, who said stop throwing dildos on the court. That's not real. You're going that's real. That's a verified account. That's not real. She's funny though. She's tongue in cheek funny and she's obviously playing into the bit.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Okay, okay. While also warning people. But there are some betting sites that are now taking wagers on the color of the next dildo throw along with will, how will it be handled? Dude, seriously, you can bet on this. So I know for a fact that Angel Reese got real mad at some dudes. They were doing a bit where they would bet against her.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Oh my God, those dudes, those, I follow that account. Yes, well she sent a cease and desist letter to make them stop. They did like eight straight nights where they were betting that she would miss the first shot. They had like bricks in their hand and they were like. And then they would win every single time. It was insane.
Starting point is 01:46:03 And they would go sick when they would win, yes. So I they would win yes so I don't know what I don't know I don't quite understand what you can and can't bet against but it seems like ungenerally in general you can bet against anything but they even have like a Caucasian dildo you can bet on with the first two have been like aqua green like highly you know look at that which one are you going if you had to bet you own purple next or what do you think I mean that blue is that plus 1400 that's a fact let's bring in our betting expert long Island Luke you going blue here I think you got to take the value on blue plus 1400 look at the odds of that compared to all the other colors and you'd
Starting point is 01:46:30 Argue you know green all those colors have an equal chance. You need to seek help immediately dude. This is wild though This is a coordinated effort you know when I read out those like things to go to if you're like a gambling addict That's for you. Okay. There you go. Luke. You know about regional MMA where anything can happen anything check this out Okay, this is aka. Oh my god Byron Walker on the left I'm sorry get Glenn Norman on the left pointed down did the max Holloway bit and then Byron Walker sent him to They're calling him minimum Holloway. Oh my god. Can you show that once? Can you play that play one more time so he points down very Holloway. Oh my god. Can you show that one? Can you play that play one more time? So he points down very Holloway-esque. Yes, he points at the mat and then proceeds to get KO'd on the next time his opponent engages him.
Starting point is 01:47:12 We're just like that. And look at these extra ones. Steps off the line. Oh my god. So what's amazing about this one is not only does he point down and then gets KO'd, but the KO itself is actually quite spectacular. Yes. That is that is a regional MMA own goal that is quite rare and how bad it is.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Amazing. Let's keep it going with the regional MMA theme. Watch this finish from the ground, Luke. Oh shit! That ended the fight, dude. Capoeira kick, but just a hand plant kick. Look, he's just going to plant off the elbow, then the hand. Bob?
Starting point is 01:47:41 Chef Kass, big capoeira instructor. Listen, protect yourself at all times. Yes. And wear red lights on your balls. Do you think there's any chance that when Chef Cass was cooking for Toporia that he slipped a little GHB in there just to see what happens? I mean, I would certainly test the food. Okay. Maybe he wants to win that Cuervo night out, alright? There you go. Yeah, you gotta party with Chef Cass and then go train with him.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Luke, we're gonna take this to regional Muay Thai here. This is the, oh my god, a double KO. Shades of Phaidor Mitrione at MSG, Luke, only that didn't end the fight. Oh, one was a punch, one was an elbow too. That was beautiful, actually. Damn, that's good stuff. All right. Romeo and Juliet. Did you see that ESPN's been doing their ESPN Ocho bit lately, playing all the weird sports? Your boy, Johnny Laquasto my guy
Starting point is 01:48:26 I saw Johnny he was he was host. He was the host of like some like bounce ball Yeah, then there was like slippery stairs there was also pillow fight championships featuring guess who check Congo versus Hector Lombard Luke your thoughts yeah, I mean what are they getting paid for this bullshit beats slap fighting doesn't does it they weren? Does it? They weren't even the main event, which is crazy to me. I don't, I mean, I really don't care. Here's my question. What is the appeal and who gives a shit? Exactly. Luke, I turned this on on Friday night
Starting point is 01:48:54 and I watched it live, I'm not even. Yeah, but he was high, fair, to be fair. And drunk. All right, well that's different. What do you make about Long Island Luke loves, what do you drink, Bud Light? Like, love's just an American lager. Yeah yeah because Bud Lights are great because you could drink 12 of them and still be okay my view on Bud Light and Miller Light is like if you're
Starting point is 01:49:10 going to eat like Chinese food or some like cheap takeout Bud Light Miller Light are like perfect for it you know what pair if you have at all an appetite for anything halfway decent you're a fucking toddler drinking that shit kid rock taught me that a machine gun pairs perfectly with butler I'm a Boone's farm dude kind of guy some of my craziest nights as a 17 year old was Like like Sugary syrupy flavored wine a bottle this big that'd be like the size of two beer cans and it'd
Starting point is 01:49:45 be like three dollars. Yeah, and you get like you get the apple one. There was a berry one like those you would get. Yeah, I had I had strawberry wine for the first time in college. I never had it until I got to college. Amazing. Amazing. All right, Luke, it's time for your fails of the week.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Here's some namaste on the rock. I don't know what pose this is in yoga. Namaste on the rock? I don't know what pose this is in yoga Oh I know what Shit Do we add that to our uh, to our Have you seen this shit death? We're just showing deaths Bases of death? Alright I like how your next one's like yeah watch this antelope get ripped to pieces by
Starting point is 01:50:22 Nile crocodiles These women were having the time of their life, Luke, and they've never felt like this before, doing the dirty dancing bit inside the bar. Is this somewhere in Nashville or some bullshit? Oh, here we go. Oh, bro. Let me show that one again. Let me explain some to you. Look at the size of these women.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Look at Big Z's. Oh, my gosh. Wow. You got a big girl trying to do that. Okay, that is something. This is what I have to deal, deal with on Amtrak when the elderly people have to pick up their bags. Oh, God, yes. Brother, it's, it's, it's, you just don't know if they're gonna make it to the end of that transaction. No, they're not gonna make it. I have to sprint from my fucking seat. And I'm trying to sprint to get that window seat before it fills up and they're blocking the aisle. Oh my God, dude,
Starting point is 01:50:59 I cannot tell you how many old people I have saved from death. There are, someone out there watching, your grandmother, your grandfather, I have saved their death. There are you someone out there watching your grandmother, your grandfather, I have saved their life like a fucking EMT and then ruined it by just that just shit in my dungarees. All right. We got a couple more fails for you. Let's go to this skateboarding trick. The trick isn't dying.
Starting point is 01:51:20 That's the trick. Wow. Fun fact, that's at Woodward in Pennsylvania. I went there three summers growing up. Wow! Skateboarding camp. Dude, you're a dub Tee for a dad who's Australian. I mean, it's unbelievable. That's a cool camp. Is it a cool camp?
Starting point is 01:51:40 Let's go to the softball doubleheader. Keep your eye on the pitcher. Alright. That had to hurt. That hurts. That doesn't feel great. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Double duty! Damn! Alright, okay. That's what you get for playing softball, bitch. Uh, Luke, they got this guy on Instagram I love. I follow him. He ranks everything. Let's watch this.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Ranking NFL players by how likely I would be to let them pet sit for me. Last place, Michael Vane. To Ron Mexico there, by the way. Let's go to this, these Philadelphia Eagles fans staying on the same topic. Go birds. I got the Jersey on that. Okay. That dog is wearing a Victor.
Starting point is 01:52:21 That is just sacrilege right there. That is not acceptable. That's a Philly fan thing for sure. Your soundbite of the week goes to this Auburn coach. You need length and girth in this league. Luckily I got both. Luckily, oh my god. I mean, what league are we talking about here, right?
Starting point is 01:52:41 I know, seriously. Your dunk of the week goes to Shaquille O'Meal. Yeah, these big girls. Oh, my God. You know, you know, listen, listen, I'm all for body positivity. Yes. But you got to be a respecter of physics and gravity at the same time, you know? Yeah. So when Big Bertha wants to like a dirty dancing ride, you got to tell her no. And when this one wants to go slam dunking, you know, you got to be like, listen,
Starting point is 01:53:05 please don't run over the walls like the Kool-Aid man in my house Yeah, the walls of Jericho came down right there Luke, you know, who's your favorite UFC better besides Long Island Luke? Johnny the Greek yeah, I'll go Johnny. Yeah, I mean he's got very clean teeth very clean teeth Those fuckers will blind you if he smiles too bright. Um, I think Readers of the Lost Ark all over again. I think he's teasing a new OnlyFans account, watch this. Hey babe, Baltimore won this morning. No way. How you swear?
Starting point is 01:53:35 Five straight winners for three of them subscribers in baseball, I'm gonna give them a free one tonight. Two subscriber plays, I'll give you the free one for you. Go over nine Cincinnati Dodgers Go over nine Cincinnati Dodgers. Over nine Cincinnati Dodgers. Should be nine and a half. A last-minute score gives us some recency bias. Easy 4% winner.
Starting point is 01:53:52 And for you football fans, ball of fame game was released today to subscribers as well. Head on over to wadetalk.com, where you can follow our faith. Don't catch them, don't trash them. Let's go for another one in a row. And the video cut off before he showed his wiener. That was interesting bedding content right there.
Starting point is 01:54:08 That was wild. Do you take your phone into the shower? No. No I don't. Long Island Luke, do you take your phone into the shower? No, but sometimes when I come back from a run I'll have music still playing on my phone and I'll play that out loud while I'm in the shower. Ask Nadir if he takes his phone and you take your phone into the shower
Starting point is 01:54:31 Yeah, you look like the type. I mean that's interesting content right there. What is Yanni? I don't need Yanni I don't need to see you in the shower fella his Instagrams been on fire. They allowed to take us some chances taking some chances All right, you got a big bet. No. He's just showing off the lifestyle. Oh All the money he's got yeah. Yeah, he's on fire lately got a shout out to Yanni the Greek lifestyle. Oh, all the money he's got? Yeah, he's on fire lately. Got a shout out to Yanni the Greek. Luke, we have one entry for Rate My Tat this week. Rate That Tat this week. One to ten is the ranking and this might set a record for the most amount of people that sent it to me to get you to rate this. This is NBA star LaMelo Ball who got the hot Cheetos tat on his damn foot. This is not a bit, one to 10. Negative eight billion. What the?
Starting point is 01:55:10 This is a 0.0 blue Tarski. This is- Wow. Do you have a pain that must have been? That must have been insane. No, no, no, no, this guy routinely goes under for his tattoos. Oh, he gets put out? Yeah, he uses anesthesia. Which again, I think local anesthetic is no big,
Starting point is 01:55:27 not that big a deal, but like like literally going to sleep. Oh, like colonoscopy style. Yeah. And he'll have like four tattoo guys work on him at once. To me, that's like risky and kind of stupid. I remember my first colonoscopy. Tough transition. They give you this liquid. You have to drink the day before. It will give you diarrhea in ways
Starting point is 01:55:45 It's hard to overstate well I didn't do the actually I didn't do the drink bit because my wife had been through it a bunch She has this other way you do it where you make this drink that doesn't taste as bad And you just know I should I shit several gallons of butt water that day either way I got a great birthday gift idea for toques I Mean she's six now, but yeah, foreign over, right? My first colonoscopy Lego set. That's not bad right there. All right. This week in advertising, Luke, finally a relatable business mascot.
Starting point is 01:56:20 No jingles or what are your hobbies outside of work? Oh, that all right. You got to love all you can eat places, Luke. They'll put anything on the menu. Oh, you can eat ass. 1899, brother, I'm there. Yes, please, please. You asked me what I wanted to eat. Um, at Selena's diner in the back.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Selena? Do you have to eat Selena's ass? I don't know. I don't know, but let's go to the next one. Wherever this gas station is, I want in on, Luke. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great one. But let's go to the next one wherever this gas station is I want in on Luke Yeah Yeah, that's a great one That's the one I want to be at and
Starting point is 01:56:52 Finally they're always inventing new ways to eat a blizzy check out this one dude. I love me a little cock You get a big tube of meaty cock. There's a good chance. It's gonna end up in my mouth You spread your cock on some buns you put put a little ketchup, mustard, and relish on there, you got yourself a meat-loving good time, a cock-fest, if you will. Let me know what you guys think. We should cock next. They should be sent to El Salvador for the rest of their lives. Yeah, deport those type of people, please. Uh, Luke, it's Tito Ortiz throwback time.
Starting point is 01:57:22 Check out this shirt that he actually once wore into the octagon. I just fucked, that's not real. Are you sure? That can't be real. All right, all right. Here is actually very real. This was around, this was the early 2000s.
Starting point is 01:57:34 Tito Ortiz asked his five favorite bands. Before we play, can you guess any that he's gonna name? Now what's the question again? Tito Ortiz, around like 2001 or two, was asked his five favorite bands. I know one's gonna be Eminem. Because he walked out with Eminem a bunch of times and he'll probably like Metallica or Guns N' Roses or something like that. Five bands of all time. Korn, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg and Lip Biscuit. There you go, brought to you by
Starting point is 01:58:03 Mickey's Malt Liquor. I mean I don't know how many of those what I would call bands. Yes, but those were music artists. The early 2000s. You got to grade him on a curve. You understand that happened for years. All right, Lucas time for MMA fighters in the wild. How about Hamsat Chamayev working out with TJ Dillashaw? I had a 319 your thoughts.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Yeah, there was a training lab which were where you know, Aaron Pico is there. Yeah. Listen, they are apparently trying to keep him from over training so not getting sick which has been so we'll see how that goes see Dean Thomas saying that he he thinks it could be the worst thing if he'd go to a disaster I think it's a little strong but I understand the trepidation you mentioned Aaron Pico Hamsad and Pico working out here as well check out the abs on Pico dude
Starting point is 01:58:45 Oh, both guys look like they're fucking ready for ready for war. Holy crap Also, Luke Curtis blades got a new family-friendly haircut. Can you can you give your thoughts on this? Going is he going to is he going to Disney I would I would guess he has to be unless he's you know Working for Epstein now or something. I mean, I respect it. I? I would I would guess he has to be unless you know working for Epstein now or something I mean, I respect it. I respect I like Curtis. I respect the commitment to the bit. All right Let's see Armin Sarukian the Armenian Hulk working out in the cage here We're kind of the jacks on cage Luke I'm going to be a hat. This is the worst!
Starting point is 01:59:24 Weeeeee! Just rocketed this motherfucker through the door. Somebody lock that door. Alright. Luke, you ever get on like a bus publicly on vacation, you got like sick, cramped with like dirtbag kids? Watch this. Watch the second level. Okay. Alright.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Johnny had an upset stomach. Oh my gosh! Mom's just like like yeah, you'll be all right son How is no one noticing up top? That's insane. That is insane Luke You know speaking of great and sub memes involving your your your side piece. Here's the weird French cake lady. Oh God oh my god With this Lucas just cake right Dude She's sick. This shit makes me uncomfortable or she's kind of high. I still can't figure it out. What?
Starting point is 02:00:15 I'm French. You know, I'm how do you look at this fucking cannibal whore and go? I can't wait till we get her on the show. Like I want a bang bang One of these days I want to throw her out of a plane. There's going to be a guy standing there nude with the dong and she's going to be like, nope, and cut it off. And she's Bobbit style. Oh my God, bro. All right, time for your street fights of the week, Luke.
Starting point is 02:00:35 Check this shit out. Gramps just chilling, minding his business, it looks like. What you saying to me? Someone's got some issues. Oh, took an angle on him. Let's throw him some hands. Here we go. Oh, oh's got some issues. Took an angle on him. Let's throw him some hands. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Oh, oh, shit. Damn. You know what? They went out doing what they love. They did. That old guy was, he's out cold. Yeah, you know, the problem is he landed the nicer shot, but then he face planted into the pavement.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Damn, man. You know? Damn. Let's go to this one. Wild ending here. Watch this. Do it to him again. Do it to him again. Let's go to this one wild ending here watch this Do it to him again Do it to him again Let's see, uh oh, squaring him up
Starting point is 02:01:10 Alright, let's see Got a stance going Oh! Oh shit He was ready for it too Is that a roundhouse? Yeah That man is ready for the coffee.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Bro, New York, you'll see some shit like this all the time. And then people will just keep walking. Yeah, all the time. You know what's crazy? Dude, you know how hard it is to teach a six-year-old girl like how you navigate through a world of like, you know, crazy ass street people?
Starting point is 02:01:39 And she keeps being like, you know, they'll say something to me. Not like, not like, like yesterday, for example, we're biking and Tookie had to go around a group of like four teenagers and the teenagers were, they weren't talking shit to me, but they were like, you know, you could tell they wanted to, and they were just stopping just short of it.
Starting point is 02:01:55 And I had to kind of navigate. So while waiting for Tuki to go around it, and then we pass and Tuki goes, hey, those guys were talking to you. What did they say? And I had to just kind of explain to her, don't say that to them in earshot of them. You know what I mean? Excuse me, sir, can you give me directions
Starting point is 02:02:11 to the interstate? Man, fuck yo mama. That's not what happened. That's not what happened. They didn't cross the line, but you could tell that like. Dude, I told you that story before how my dad in like 85 took us
Starting point is 02:02:24 to New York City for the day on the train Went to Radio City saw the Christmas show all that he would tell me years later that he put a gun in his top Breast pocket and because of the crack epidemic was sought of control It was a week after that family got killed in the subway famously from Utah Mm-hmm, and I just remember how out of control Manhattan was at the time I saw like ten different accidents that day where people just crashed into each other just kept going people have people talk about New York City's unsafe first of all it's not it's second was Insanely compared to how it used to be it is like dude. It was fucking
Starting point is 02:02:57 Apocalyptic especially the late 70s, but that carried into the mid 80s really that carried into the until Julian Julian's got problems But he was the one to kind of cleaned it up so I skipped school in high school a couple times and went down and like went to the gross places there before Julian and cleaned it up yet was like Times Square was when you went to go to the porno theaters and now it's Disney you know it's really weird all right we got one more I want you to watch cuz people are often like what is the Thomas gonna look like on the New York City subway in 30 years watch this bearded white white-haired fella.
Starting point is 02:03:25 You guys know I love New York. You can do this shit and nobody cares. Oh, sometimes I get a good feeling, yeah. I get a feeling that I never, never, never, never had before, no, no. Stupid whore. I've never had before no no Yeah, little prick shut the fuck up fuck up your whore hey we made lemonade out of shit today, right? Do they gave us nothing there it is There it is. There it is. Morning Combat dot shop for your merch needs folks. The August exclusives are here.
Starting point is 02:04:08 I mean, can you throw up that full screen as well? It's the Beavis in Butt-Head MK shirt brought to you by Average Joar. How about vaping is for closers with Luke Thomas. And of course your autographed super washed bros or washed dad's poster. All three of those are August exclusives that will not be here come September 1st until they're gone. You can buy them. So get on it right now. We also have some evergreen content on there, including a brand new shirt.
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Starting point is 02:04:57 Well, that's no accident nor a surprise. Yeah, great guy, I love that guy. Anything else we wanna say? Oh, I got a shout out. You say it while I get this shout out ready All right, Luke tomorrow is your birthday, so I definitely want to shout that out you're thinking of 46 any plans anything Like bought a e-bike over the weekend. Yes, that was really my plans I'm gonna spend a little bit of beach time this weekend, but that's it all right well
Starting point is 02:05:23 I want to shout out an anniversary that's coming up on August 8th. Okay. Uh, I'm talking about you, Zach out there. Happy anniversary from your amazingly cool wife, Angie. We know you are the biggest MK fan of all time and you're a pretty big BC fan as well. So we are shouting you up. You never miss a show and you're Canadian.
Starting point is 02:05:43 So maple syrup all over you and your wife this week. Happy anniversary for you August 8th to the lovely Angie and her husband, Zach. Luke, do you care at all about Angie and Zach? I mean, I think it's kind of a weird thing to do. Shout out, it's like a hip hop station here, but you know. I mean, I just love our people, all right? I do love them too.
Starting point is 02:06:00 All right, that was a free cameo right there. I can see that. You didn't charge for that one? I didn't charge for that. No, I'm not gonna a cameo anymore. I do this thing called the YouTube channel It's kind of the same griff though really Alright long I'll look at anything else to say Yeah, I'll put out bread break down for this weekend UFC Vegas 109 probably a better card than this weekend I'm not saying much fluffy Hernandez in the main event against Roman Dele that fight is great. I got sighs I got scythes for that. What else we got? Anything decent on that card? Touchy
Starting point is 02:06:27 Feely versus C-Rod. That's good. We got Steve Erceg versus Ode Osborne. That's okay. There's a few good fights on there. It's better than this. There we go. Somehow we did two hours today. Thank you for playing. We love you out there. Take care of yourselves and we'll be back on Friday. Enjoy it. Peace. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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