MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL - Taylor vs. Serrano 3 Preview, Ring III, UFC Nashville, BKFC & Conor McGregor Announcement

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

Brian Campbell and Luke Thomas are back on a Friday to discuss Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano III. Their first fight sold out Madison Square Garden in 2022, with 1.5 million watching live on DAZN in ...the most-watched women's boxing match in history. Their rematch last fall was the most watched women's sporting event in U.S. history. What has made this rivalry so special entering tonight's trilogy, in the main event of a historic all-female card on Netflix, and is it fair to say this is the biggest and most important event in women's boxing history? Also, the guys talk through the "Ring III" event Saturday featuring Edgar Berlanga vs. Hamzah Sheeraz and Shakur Stevenson vs. William Zepeda. Plus a UFC Fight Night Nashville preview, BKFC and Conor McGregor hold a press conference and Ben Askren posts an update following a double lung transplant. Get ready for a loaded Friday of Morning Kombat!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Oh Oh, yeah. French rapey voice unites here. It's MK. It's back in your face hole. It's Friday, July 11th, 2025. I know you ain't got shit to do. I'm Brian Campbell from suburban Connecticut, your co-host of this award-winning podcast that refuses to die a slow or long death, right? We're still thriving. We're still here. We're still vibing. That's my co-host from DC. He's currently getting pegged by Comcast, which is why his screen looks so different, but by the power of an internet hotspot, this show is being held together by MacGyver bubble gum and some loose change. Luke, how are you over there? Pissed off fucking Comcast. These MFers man, my service dies this morning.
Starting point is 00:01:30 And then I call them up and be like, hey guys, I do. I need the Internet for a living. I work from home. And they're like, yeah, we'll get there Sunday. And I like, no, bitch. By that point, Verizon's going to be here. Get your fucking ass over here now. So they're going to get over here, I guess, by the end of today. But Jesus, man, by the end of today. Um,
Starting point is 00:01:45 but Jesus, man, faulty ass bullshit equipment. Fuck Comcast. Wow. Wow. Right off the start. Today's episode of morning combat. Oh, by the way, presented by draft Kings and you know about draft Kings, the crown is your shout out to everybody watching on the draft Kings network on YouTube, where we encourage you to like and subscribe. And I know you audio only guys out there mowing the lawn or doing a grocery run. We in your ear hole too. So check out our socials right there. Follow us.
Starting point is 00:02:15 We have a, and also check out our extended YouTube channels, including Luke Thomas gets political, which is on fire at the moment right there. Uh, but we won't bring in politics today unless you want to talk about on a White House lawn. We will be getting into a fantastic episode setting the stage for a loaded boxing weekend in the NYC, including two girls and one championship cup of some kind in this trilogy this evening.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Also, we got some UFC Nashville. We'll react to an explosive BKFC press conference where it was tequila white lightning for everyone it seemed. And also check in on Ben Hasprin's incredible journey fighting to survive and keeping up the good fight. So all that and then some tall, pale and handsome will hit your dead wrongs, will hit your fansubs and at 12 Eastern time, get ready. The towering inferno, Sebastian Fundora will stop by today on MK. Just one week out from his rematch with Tim Zou on the Manny Pacquiao Returns, PBC on Prime, pay per view card. I am fired up to be here. Luke, will you recover emotionally enough to give the people what they want?
Starting point is 00:03:31 I will do my level best with this bullshit ass internet off of my telephone that I'm using. How does it look? Do I sound okay? I don't even know how I sound. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you sound fine.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It does look very 2006 technology at the moment, like maybe a early episode of Luke Thomas is pissed. so it kind of works out perfectly You know fucking Comcast. I hate these cable companies so goddamn much, but you know what? Shouts to Verizon making it work here. We are yeah. Yeah, we don't have it in our show Luke Thomas But do you have anything to say about John Jones's DMs? Do you have anything to say about John Jones's DMS? Dude, is he not the most unbelievable loser ever of all time? I mean, yeah, but he's made much more money than you have. Yeah, like, yeah, here's what's, which is so funny because my response to that
Starting point is 00:04:17 would be like, you know, I'll never have to explain to my daughter, you know, all the crimes that I've committed, alleged or otherwise, to my significant other, potentially even in front of them. And he will. And there's no amount of money he has that would ever make me want to trade places with him. So yeah, but look, he just found that fighting spirit again. Once, once, once Donald, as he calls him, announced plans to put that octagon on the front lawn there on Pennsylvania. I don't want to talk about this fucking guy. OK, talk about this. But I also don't want to talk about the unfortunate arrest this morning as Gervonta Tank Davis allegedly was
Starting point is 00:04:57 stopped in South Florida, accused of striking an ex-girlfriend multiple times. This is obviously a repeated pattern. No word yet whether that will affect the proposed rematch this summer with Lamont Roach, but yeah another step backwards unfortunately in the outside the ring life of one, Jervont Davis right there. So those are the topics we won't be hitting in depth but we will be hitting a few more. Luke, any weekend plans maybe to like turn the internet off and find happiness? I always try to do that. Uh yeah, we got some stuff. Taking to some um to
Starting point is 00:05:38 some events around town. Um let's see. There was something going on. Oh, you have kids party tomorrow? Of course, you know, what else would there be? And then vacation. Is it a bounce house? Did you hire a clown? What's going on? No, it's not our party.
Starting point is 00:05:51 We're just it's one of her friends from school or summer camp or whatever. So yeah, should be fun. Is that that little bitch who doesn't share or is that it? You know, that's not that's not appropriate for me to talk like that. I mean, I don't I don't typically refer to six-year-old girls in that way, but you know, that's not appropriate for me to talk like that. I don't typically refer to six-year-old girls in that way, but you know, that's the first you can make. Okay, here we go. Well, we've set the stage for a fantastic episode.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Before we get into our first topic, I would like to introduce the third member of our team. He's a producer, director, bong enthusiast, 90s rock aficionado, and yes, he got a one-way ticket to the United States by way of a horned up Australian man's testicles. It is Luke Nocito of the main card minute. Hey Luke, how are you brother?
Starting point is 00:06:32 I'm doing good. I'm doing a lot better than other Luke today, you know? Comcast, sticking strong here on Long Island, you know? We don't use Comcast, that's probably why, but. Who's your, who's your, what, Tom Warner? I got Verizon, Fios, baby. Okay, okay. I thought you got that James Dolan shit's your, who's your, who's your, Tom Warner? I got Verizon Fios, baby. Right. Okay. Okay. I thought you got that James Dolan **** You don't need that,
Starting point is 00:06:48 right? Yeah, my parents got the James Dolan **** You know, they, they haven't gotten with the times, you know, Verizon's got the gig internet. You gotta get with the good **** But yo, Taylor Serrano three tonight doing a watch along for it. You know, oh, oh, wow. Okay. Tune into that. If I have internet, I might as well but who knows? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you probably won't. You know, let's uh one final plug. You may you may have recognized this fantastic piece of business on my
Starting point is 00:07:11 chesticles right here. This uh MK Punchout shirt. Go to morningcombat.shop right now. This is one of our new releases for the month of July. Get it while it lasts. I believe is that an L and W production child to that great man, right? No, I read books to suck my balls is literally on the t-shirt. It fucking makes me laugh. It's great. It's great. What is it like 42911? It's just all it plays all the hits. Check it out. All right, let's get into it. It's topic number one and it goes down this evening. Look, it's a really, really big deal. Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano
Starting point is 00:07:48 part three and of course you can watch this fantastic trilogy tonight Friday, July 11th 8 PM Eastern 5 PM Pacific live on Netflix. So Luke, let's break it down the first fight between them in 2022 sold out Madison Square Garden. It was the first time two women made seven-figure paydays in the same fight, and it drew 1.5 million viewers live on Dizone to become the most watched fight in women's boxing history. Last fall, they did a rematch in Arlington AT&T Stadium, and it only became the most watched women's sporting event in US history while saving an otherwise absurd. Jake Paul
Starting point is 00:08:28 versus Mike Tyson card live on Netflix. We are going for a third one tonight in which these two amazing women will split a 18 million dollar purse between them continuing to set records headlining an all female card live on Netflix. In your opinion, Luke, as we get ever so closer to making our predictions for tonight, what has made this rivalry so special, so historic? And is it fair to say that maybe for the third straight time, we are entering the biggest and most important fight in women's boxing history?
Starting point is 00:09:09 So I don't know enough about women's boxing history to know where this place is there. I would be speaking out of turn if I did. Perhaps you could speak more authoritatively to that than I could. But you know what's kind of interesting about this fight BC is, you know, and we'll get to it here today on the rundown. There was craziness at the BKFC presser yesterday. There was even some pretty ridiculous craziness at the Edgar Belonga and Shira's, Hamza Shira's presser yesterday as well. Yeah, they were throwing panties. He was throwing panties at Oscar.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Shoes, wigs, the whole nine yards, which kind of tells you about ticket sales. But consider what you saw this week between Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrato. None of that. None of that. A little bit of trash talk back and forth. Very little. Very, very little. And I'm not here to say that that's one of these things where like, oh, I'm always going to prefer that. In fact, in most cases, I would not. In most cases, I would actually prefer to be a little bit. But this is just one of those fights where if they were doing it, you could tell it wouldn't be who they are. And it has the distinct benefit of some fights
Starting point is 00:10:08 just don't actually need it or to bare minimum, not much is added to it as a consequence. And I think it's this one, this fight to me, you've seen them fight for 20 rounds and it was nothing but a tornado for 18 of them, if not 19 of them, if not 19 of them. This is a fight where it has what you need. Again, not so much on the trash talk side or animus side,
Starting point is 00:10:34 but you've got two rock ribbed fight communities with the Irish and the Puerto Ricans. You've got an iconic stage slash venue, Madison Square Garden, New York City. You've got a, I mean, you've literally got the, you know, and by the way, I know that like, you know, this is presented by Netflix. I'm, I'm, I'm only telling you the truth. The number one streamer or streaming service, I should say in the world and it's got everybody knows what the score is it's going to be two cats in a bag from bell to bell over and over and over and over again and the first two fights BC yes they definitely went
Starting point is 00:11:24 Katie Taylor's way she is technically 2-0 but there's not a person on earth who is counting out Amanda Serrano, Katie Taylor most especially she knows that she has her hands full tonight it's pure excitement it's pure grit it's pure determination and it's just BC. We started off the show talking about Gervonta Davis now being arrested again. You can't believe it. And then John Jones DMing people to remind them, John Jones is that meme where the guy is crying, but then has the mask on that's smiling because the guy is obviously being
Starting point is 00:12:03 eaten alive by his demons inside. And the fight game feels gross most days. It feels gross. It feels, you know, oh, there's, there's, hey, this, this guy is praising Hitler and this guy just got arrested for rape. You know, it's just, it's just insane how the directions that it goes. This fight has absolutely none of that has none of that. You can just focus on the fight itself and given what we've seen, I don't know what the, I would love to hear it. I don't know what the argument would even be that you would think a fight like this would suck.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Like this is just joy in a box. Here's your present. Welcome to Christmas day. Let's go, let's go. I think you nailed it right there. Not to mention the first two fights. And I say this is the third straight time in this rivalry that we're entering. Well, yes, I consider it to be the biggest, most important fight in women's boxing history. Not just from the record setting money, the fact that it's a main event of an all female car, the fact that it's on Netflix, all of that.
Starting point is 00:13:05 How about the fact that the first two fights were both legitimate fight of the year contenders and both exceeded expectations when in some ways they had no right to I mean, that was a sold out Madison Square Garden the first time and old timers that were there of deep in the boxing game were like, I'm not sure I've been in a more exciting atmosphere before male or female they escalated that in the rematch, which only added to the disputed scorecards, the controversy, all that. But yet, even though Katie Taylor, the 39 year old Irish legend and currently the undisputed 140 pound champion with those belts being on the line in this one, their first fight at 135, the last two fights at 140, she
Starting point is 00:13:43 will be the betting underdog as we stand right now, according to DraftKings. Katie Taylor is plus 150 despite being 2-0 in this series and Amanda Serrano minus 185 at 36 years old, your betting favorite. Long Island Luke, can we go to the face off from the final presser this week? And it has been very cordial. There's been very little sort of anything you could call trash talk. A couple one-liners regarding the fights back and forth but you see the professionalism, you see the pride. Look let's be honest these are two of the four or five best female boxers in the history of the sport. Along with Clarecia Shields they're the face of this renaissance era where we have maybe not extreme depth across all divisions
Starting point is 00:14:26 It's going to take more time to build that but we have marketable superstars with of of pound for pound ability You know nearly all the way through the top 10 pound for pound which is not easy to do in women's boxing historically This is the era. This is the rivalry. These are the two stars and good lord have they been so damn close I want to start off with a piece of sound from that final press conference That does show the two of them going back and forth about the controversies of the first two fights in which Katie Taylor won Their first meeting by split decision. She would win their second one by unanimous decision Although by one point on all three scorecards. Remember, she did get docked a point for one of those headbutts, yet still came
Starting point is 00:15:10 victorious. Let's hear from the ladies themselves about who should have won the first two. And obviously she has her opinion, her team has their opinion. I have my opinion, my teams, the fans, the people who saw have their own opinion. So I don't, I mean, it's good. Yeah, I mean, I have my own opinion about the stuff that Amanda has been saying on our team, but the fact is I am 2-0 against her and the opinions are opinions, but facts are facts. And you can't get away from those facts.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Yeah, I guess I'm just sick of the complaining and whining from your regime. The only thing that matters is that I am 2-0 against her. I'm going to just fight. I'm beating against Amanda Serrano and I plan to stay and beating against her as I plan to stay 3-0 to come this Friday night. Now for the record Taylor did say she would be open to a fourth fight should Serrano win tonight but you heard that rare sort of trash talk moment of Taylor saying I'm sick of her team whining about it. Now Luke full disclosure I scored both fights for Serrano very close. She hurt Taylor in both fights. She aggressively outlanded her when we talk about CompuBox that I'll get to in a second in both fights. But I want to ask you straight up, how would you explain the judge's preference for giving Taylor the consistent
Starting point is 00:16:40 benefit of the doubt in so many close rounds in this rivalry. So I went back and I watched both fights. I will say, I will say if there's one benefit BC to women's boxing being 10 two-minute rounds, it's not that hard to go back and watch all the action. You know what I mean? It's a fairly straightforward affair. I think because I'm like you, I think I scored, now again, it's not any kind of mystery or how could they have happened that Katie Taylor won? Like these fights are close, the rounds are close, anybody winning is frankly quite understandable. But I'm like you, I scored I think both of them for Serrano as well. I come away with a couple of conclusions.
Starting point is 00:17:21 One, I think Katie Taylor is the more dominant pure puncher and has a more demonstrable effect on Serrano. Now that's not always true. Obviously Serrano puts together some good combinations and in the first fight in that middle portion she was really dealing, but I think in general she's a little bit more, she scores more demonstrative offense, even if she gets outlanded. That's one of the first things I would point out too. I think this is why I think Katie Taylor likes these shorter rounds because remember Serrano wanted this fight to be 12 rounds three minutes and it was Katie Taylor's team who did not want that and it makes sense because what ends up happening is that Serrano throws a ton of volume
Starting point is 00:18:03 and a lot of body shots and And I like her body shots, but I don't know how the judges look at that. But what I think I can say with some pretty good confidence, BC, is, and we're speaking in generalities here, right? In general, to me, what ends up happening a little bit in these fights is that Serrano throws high volume anyway, but she has a very narrow window in which to do it.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And to me, I'm not saying it's junk volume, but she doesn't necessarily patiently set things up. And as a consequence, Katie Taylor, who I think is pound for pound, maybe a little bit more of a dominant puncher again, or scores more demonstrative shots, she's able to counter Serrano pretty effectively, at least in certain parts of each fight. Like in each fight, like early or late in the first one
Starting point is 00:18:48 or some of the, you know, the third, I would say of the second fight, you can just tell that, you know, some of these hooks she throws up top once Serrano wants to go to the body. And then she gets out and she knocks her off balance a lot. It's because Serrano doesn't have time to like, you know, faint her way in.
Starting point is 00:19:03 She kind of just has to go. And that plays a little bit to Katie Taylor's game in terms of scoring these counter shots that the judges really remember that allows her to get out and then reset the whole program. Now, obviously BC, as you indicate, you know, Serrano puts on an enormous amount of volume. And then there are rounds where she's busting up Katie Taylor too. I wanna be very, very clear about that. There's rounds where you can see Katie Taylor looking at stars, like it's not like it's- Yeah, she's the bigger puncher.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Serrano's the bigger puncher. I know what you're saying on demonstrative on the view, but Serrano's the bigger puncher for being the smaller fighter, no question. Yeah. Yes, but do you understand my point that like, some of the most memorable off-bal balancing shots tend to come from Katie Taylor? I guess maybe that's what I'm trying to say whether or not who's the more dominant puncher, but I I really think BC
Starting point is 00:19:52 I really think these short rounds Katie Taylor and her team they know Serrano just has to go But that doesn't let her set it up methodically and that enables her to be countered pretty consistently That's a great point because I think the thing even lost on me sometimes looking back on here is exactly what you said. This two minute rounds, which favor Taylor's style. It's why for all three fights, she leaned on her a side leverage to make sure these were 10 rounds, two minutes a piece and not the 12 three men's format. Even though Eddie Hearn told me it would be hard to get all four sanctioning bodies to agree to do that, but still.
Starting point is 00:20:28 The thing that I was surprised in going back and watching the tape, and you mentioned it, Serrano doesn't move her head enough or look to set up these punches. It is sort of like, oh shit, we're in this battle. We got two minutes. I got somebody across me who's at least my equal. I'm just going to let it go. I think there is a little bit more nuance available to her that might lower the output but might
Starting point is 00:20:50 give her an opportunity but I wanna pause that when we talk about the strategy in a second. First, I wanna show you the punch stats from the first two fights cuz they are pretty damning when you blow it up. This is uh according to Copybox from their first fight, Taylor was out landed by Serrano 173 to 147 overall. Although you do see there that Taylor connected on 48% or is that a six, 46% of her power shots compared to 36 for Serrano who threw by the way,
Starting point is 00:21:21 nearly double the output. Taylor threw 375 in the first fight serrano through Uh, is that it? I can't look like yeah 624. Yeah, I need glasses. I'm gonna need glasses even more for the second one Let's go to the rematch where the stats were even more remarkable in favor. Luke. Can you read those at all? Motherfucker i'm blind as shit, too All right, the bottom left. Can you help us out here? All motherfucker. I'm blind as shit, too Yeah, where where are they all the way I need the bottom left corner the total punches I don't punch is nearly tailored Taylor 217 serrano 324 out of how many out of how many? Fuck that's hard to read. It looks like serrano through
Starting point is 00:22:01 734 and Katie through 529 dude, so Serrano through 734 and Katie through 529. Dude, so look she all landed. Plus 700 punches is fucking insane. She landed nearly 100 more and on top of that Serrano landed 56% of her power shots which is insane. She landed the most punches scored by a CompuBox women's fight in boxing history yet is 0 and 2. Do you make good points that maybe Taylor is a little more judicious even though I always call her a spammer?
Starting point is 00:22:34 It really has been Serrano who has been more of the spammer and maybe you're right, maybe it's been the cleaner punching of Taylor that the judges have preferred even though I do think the two minute round format has robbed Serrano of the potential of getting knockdowns or knockouts in this matchup because she did visibly hurt her in both fights. And yes, there were the controversies of the headbutts, which did take a point away in the rematch from Taylor, but nothing more from the referee. You mentioned the round setting. They talked about it at the press conference this week.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Let's listen in We're on the cusp of one of the greatest trilogies in the history of sports the independent a UK publication put out an article today and It said the importance of this rivalry is the same as Messi versus Ronaldo the final chapter the same as Messi versus Ronaldo. The final chapter. Wrong clip there, if we can go to the back and forth between them over the amount of rounds in this matchup.
Starting point is 00:23:30 She's not in the position to dictate the terms of the fight. To do three minutes and 12 rounds like the males, why you didn't accept that challenge? Well, because I won the second fight. Like I said in the last press conference, she's not in the position to dictate the terms of the fight. I am the champion, she's not. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Luke, I'll get to what Nakisa said in a second there, but I want to ask you this regarding the potential for Serrano, who is 0-2 in this matchup, in this rivalry, even if she and I believe she should have won, the whole idea of how much should she change her strategy during that same press conference, she said, I'm really not going to change much. I thought I won the first idea of how much should change her strategy during that same press conference. She said, I'm really not going to change much. I thought I won the first two fights, but even though it's a new set of judges here, you've got to do something different. If you were her coach, what would be that something different after watching the first two fights over again for Amanda Serrano?
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yes. How does the way the judge is in her favor? So we know that the punching volume, not an issue. We know that, um, combination work works well. So I don't think it makes a lot of sense for Amanda Serrano to just, you know, change up what she does completely. Throw the baby out with the bath water. I mean, BC once again, you can make a very easy argument
Starting point is 00:24:48 that she won the first two. I mean, not literally, but that perhaps that she should have. So we're talking about minor adjustments. And what's one thing I say on this show almost every week, minor adjustments at this level of the game yield significant results. You don't need to upend everything. You've got to tweak a few things.
Starting point is 00:25:06 BC, I think she has to crowd her. I think she has to crowd her. Katie Taylor's ring craft to me is one of the more underrated features of this rivalry, because what we tend to focus on are the exchanges and for good reason, they're insane. They're plentiful. Like they go on for a long time. They have swings in momentum.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's part of the fun of the story, right? Because that's a lot of what this rivalry is about. Fun. It's enjoyable to watch two professionals who have this kind of professional rivalry. But the Ring Craft of Katie Taylor is a big difference maker. She uses any number of things, pins, turns, bumps,
Starting point is 00:25:48 to retake center, to stay moving laterally, to pull, for example, Amanda Serrano into punches and that ends up scoring a lot of offense and then allows Katie Taylor to reset. To me, when Serrano was able to force more combination work in a linear fashion and get Taylor to plant, sometimes Taylor wins those, a lot of times Serrano wins those. A lot of times her hand speed and combination work tend to have this really very quick but obvious accumulative effect. You need to take away her movement. In an MMA it would be different, right? You just kick out her legs. That's not what this is.
Starting point is 00:26:27 So you have to put the kinds of punches together that stop movement and you have to put the kind of, I know she's Puerto Rican BC, a little Mexican forehead to forehead pressure, you know, a little bit more East sock crews with more Ringcraft, obviously. I think that's what's going to happen. People don't talk about Katie Taylor's movement BC, and it's essential to understanding her success. It's a very, very good point. I was wondering maybe if it was the opposite,
Starting point is 00:26:54 if it was you gotta make Katie Taylor become the chaser, become the spammer, and Serrano become the counter puncher considering that power advantage, and that maybe if she focused less on volume and more on impact shots. But I think you also run the risk if that happens that we have another close fight and now suddenly the judges favor Taylor for activity in ways they didn't favor Serrano the first two. Either way, we do expect this to be potentially hellacious just as good as the first two. Do you think the age with Katie Taylor now being 39, having been in a decent amount of wars,
Starting point is 00:27:28 the two crazy fights with Delphine Pursu, the loss to Chantel Cameron, the first two fights here with Serrano, is it fair to say three years younger that Serrano's the fresher fighter that maybe that will be an issue? Do you believe that's maybe why she's the betting favorite despite being 0-2? Yes, I do believe her being 39 will be an issue? Do you believe that's maybe why she's the betting favorite despite being 0-2?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Yes, I do believe her being 39 will be an issue. You know what's funny BC, again I know we're speaking predominantly to what is largely an MMA audience, not exclusively obviously, I think everyone's pretty hyped for this fight, but we're not used to seeing guys fight four, five times in MMA. It's happened, but it's quite rare. BC, if Serrano ends up doing what she could have done in the first two fights, you're gonna get another one here. Like there's simply no doubt in my mind. But to answer the question-
Starting point is 00:28:13 They both said because of the money. By the way, they both said because the money's too good. Of course we would do it again. Who else are they gonna fight to get this kind of money from, right? I mean, each one is the golden ticket. But what I was gonna say was, I do think that, I mean, when I went back and I watched these first two fights,
Starting point is 00:28:26 again, to the point that you raise, Serrano gets off balanced and demonstrably moved in ways that I think was very, very memorable for the judges. But BC, correct me if I'm wrong, and if you disagree, by all means say so. But to me, if I was asked who got rocked worst in individual moments, worse I should say, between the two, in the two fights,
Starting point is 00:28:51 it's going to be Katie Taylor. And in fact, that's kind of what's remarkable about her because she rescued herself a couple times and then put it back on Serrano. But you just wonder if Serrano's made enough adjustments and as things go a little bit differently this time, could Katie Taylor get really messed up here? I don't think that's a crazy thing to consider.
Starting point is 00:29:11 It's just crazy that Serrano, before signing with Jake in 2021, was already a first-ballot Hall of Famer, nine-division champion, the only male or female in boxing history, yet was often defending her titles off TV, usually around purses of 15 and 20,000. Now she's making 9 million here. She made 7 million in the rematch, made at least seven figures in the first one. Remarkable turn for both, which certainly tells you they both need each other. One more time, Long Island, could you play Nikisa's clip trying to really put into perspective what this rivalry means to women's boxing?
Starting point is 00:29:47 We're on the cusp of one of the greatest trilogies in the history of sports. The Independent, a UK publication, put out an article today and it said the importance of this rivalry is the same as Messi versus Ronaldo. The final chapter of Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano. Luke, you're a footy type of guy. Uh does that make any sense to you but at the same time, you don't even if it doesn't, we can't overlook what this fight with this rivalry can do moving forward on the impact of women's box. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's a very helpful analogy.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Messi and Ronaldo compete in a sport that has maybe the highest participatory rate of any sport worldwide and yet ended up being these figures that changed how we understand the sport and what was possible. And while lifting the rivalry, playing for rival clubs for, you know, nearly a decade, basically. Yeah, I don't I mean this that was so infinitely bigger and harder to do. I'm not trying to demean the athletes, but I think it's just a little bit over the line but this is the point I would like to make it like it doesn't need to be Messi and Ronaldo it doesn't need to be any of those things it just like this is such a high watermark that like it can just live on its own and in fact what I think is more interesting is how to me future women's rivalries in combat sports not just boxing such that there are trilogies or you know again again there there's rivalries in combat sports, not just boxing, such that there are trilogies, or again, there's rivalries,
Starting point is 00:31:28 they will be compared to this. Every time you hear a fighter say, for example, a fighter comes out of Georgia, someone's gonna ask them, do you wanna be the next Ilya Toporya? Do you wanna be the next Mirob Dwaleshwili? And then what they're inevitably gonna say is, no, I wanna be the first, they'll say their own name. That's the feeling I
Starting point is 00:31:47 get with this one I mean obviously there's been great women's boxers before and great and some rivalries but for our generation this is the gold standard this is it this is this is what future generations of fight fans are going to remember as the most noteworthy and important women's rivalry. So my response to the quesadilla would be I understand what he's trying to say, but let this speak for itself on its own independent of like comparisons across gender and sport and continents like let it live on its own, you know. I think it's it's important
Starting point is 00:32:21 though because Le Lali and Anne Wolfe were contemporaries. They're both Hall of Famers. They never fought each other. I mean, Wolfe blames Le Lali. So do her critics. Ultimately, now you got these two in this era, which again also includes Clarissa Shields, Michaela Mayer, so many other great female fighters. And a lot of them will be on this card, by the way, I give Jake Paul and MVP
Starting point is 00:32:43 promotions a lot of credit for that. But you're going to get these three at least these two, at least three times, maybe even a fourth. Who knows? Long Island Luke, we mentioned those betting odds from DraftKings minus 185 for Serrano plus 150 for Taylor. I know you're neither an expert on boxing or women, but as boyfriend of the year or girlfriends, a boyfriend of the year, how do you look at this from a betting standpoint, you're getting plus money on
Starting point is 00:33:08 one of the greatest fighters ever. Who's two and O in this rivalry. I know when you, when you word it like that, I feel like it's definitely worth throwing a little something on Katie Taylor. I already took Amanda by decision in a parlay. I took it with the over eight and a half in the opening bout on the main card, which is Scotney versus Mercado, I believe. Yeah, those are their names. So the over eight and a half and that with Serrano by decision
Starting point is 00:33:33 So I'm riding with Serrano, but I think it's anyone's fight. Definitely worth it It really is and speaking of anyone's fight, you know, by the way that undercard Alicia bomb Garner's back Savannah Marshall against Shadeza Green to Unified titles, Chantel Cameron, I mean, Trinca Johnson, all down. Can I say something about Shadeza Green? This is where it's like Jake Paul, the boxer. Not not my favorite. Not my favorite.
Starting point is 00:33:56 We don't we don't we don't we don't hide that on the show. Jake Paul, the promoter, man. Shadeza Green has been on Jake Paul's undercards for quite some time and we interviewed her when we were working at Showtime and you know, I remember when we spoke to her, she was full of like verve, you know, she had some real attitude in a good way. And here she is still climbing. Jake Paul is not just, oh, he promotes Amanda Serrano. There's like a bunch of women he has given multiple opportunities to it's a very simple question again So leader promotions, I think with Clarissa Shields has done obviously an enormous amount. There's been some other ones to sky no Yeah, no fair enough, I mean it's it's not just the Jake Paul show But I'm just saying for Jake Paul who all this controversy around and blah blah blah Dude, he promotes the shit out of women's boxing and there's just no two ways about it. You have
Starting point is 00:34:46 to give him credit. Alright, let's give credit to who we think will be the winner. Luke Taylor Serrano three this evening live on Netflix 8 PM Eastern 5 PM Pacific who wins and does this end the best rivalry in women's boxing history? Man, I've been wrong about this every, every step of the way. And I have really gone back and forth on this one, but I think I'm finally going to say that I'm confident Serrano will win. I guess, um, I guess I'm not confident.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I I'm going to say Serrano. I just feel like it's been within her grasp. And I think that they're finally going to catch Katie Taylor a little bit on the downswing and that's going to make a difference. But of course, BC, as you well know, as you indicated right before you asked me, it truly, truly is anyone's fight. It really is. I'm going Serrano by decision as well. I think the difference this time will be
Starting point is 00:35:46 that she'll get that knockdown. She will get through on Taylor. I don't think she'll finish her because Katie fights so well hurt and is so able to recuperate quickly in crazy situations. And again, the two minute rounds make it very difficult but I do think a knockdown could be the difference here. I think Serrano will make those adjustments
Starting point is 00:36:03 and be a little bit fresher. And maybe we see a a fourth one but I'm not focused on that. I'm focused on this one and it does go down this evening. One final time to get you fired up, of course, you can watch Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano three tonight, Friday, July 11th, 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 Pacific, live on Netflix. Luke, real quick to close this topic, I want to show you that picture, we didn't think it was coming, of Jake Paul and Turkey Alishik along with a quote tweet from Jake which says, my and MVP's goal has always been to disrupt and grow boxing and Turkey has done that in massive ways. Collaborating only helps ensure boxing, here's the key part, for men and women continues to grow and regain
Starting point is 00:36:45 its place as the biggest sport in the world. So not only is this surprising to see what we thought were major rivals in this boxing space come together. I would knee jerk go, okay, maybe Turkey's going to pay for KSI who he already has under a ring magazine brand ambassador deal. Maybe he's going to make KSI versus Jake. But Jake mentioned men and women there. What do you make of this moving forward?
Starting point is 00:37:11 I guess everyone bends the knee to Turkey eventually. Let's see what they come up with. I mean, on the one hand, you would like to see promoters not clash exactly, but give different competing visions of what boxing can be and look like. hand, you would like to see promoters not clash exactly, but give different competing visions of what boxing can be and look like. That's actually to me, one of the benefits of the multi promoter model that boxing enjoys is that you don't just
Starting point is 00:37:35 get one version sensibility, you get a lot. And I think I wouldn't want to lose that at the same time, if they're willing to join forces BC Especially across gender lines to make boxing's biggest fights possible hard for me to know what the Obvious downside of that would be. I mean there could be some and in fact there probably will be but It's just in terms of you know, Saudi dominance in the sport But just just to talk about like, you know
Starting point is 00:38:05 combining rosters combining forces You know One of the things we've been critical of in boxing is guys don't cross art and ladies either Cross the street to work with other promoters if we can get a more robust sharing system across promoters Once again, like isn't that a little bit the dream? I mean, I mean, maybe that's an exaggeration, but like you just would prefer promoters work together to make the biggest fights.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And if that's what we're gonna get, I think most fans would be quite receptive. I'm shocked, I'm shocked. I mean, there was a time earlier this year where there's a lot of rumors that Jake and Nakisa were looking to secure upwards of $100 million in investment money that I believe they were unable to, maybe to be the rival for the eventual inevitable Turkey-Zufa boxing takeover.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I don't think this means Dana and Jake are going to be partners, but maybe this means Amanda Serrano fights on a ring, you know, ring magazine card or what have you. We got to wait and see. Let's go to topic number two, which is this Ring Magazine series, which I got to say, when you look at everything that Turkey's brought to boxing over the past couple of years, the good, the bad, obviously the biggest things were getting these huge fights like Better B and Bival, getting Usyk Fury, all that. This Ring Magazine series has become, I think, the best thing that Turkey's a part of, even with that Times Square card not living up to expectations
Starting point is 00:39:25 Saturday night also in New York City but nearby in Queens at Louis Armstrong Stadium one of the one of the playing surfaces for the annual US Open tennis tournament we are going to get ring three a four fight card of decent note here of fights we need to see. But let's start off and focus first on that main event, Edgar Berlenga versus Hamza Shiraz. Hamza Shiraz, excuse me. And Luke, considering both fighters are really being harshly judged by critics due to their most recent elite performances, and that's Berlenga
Starting point is 00:39:59 and the one-sided pay-per-view loss to Canelo, and Shiraz in that disputed title draw with Carlos Adamis for the middleweight title in the fight where Turkey ran up and gave him the scores in the corner. Which fighter do you believe has more to prove in this super middleweight showdown that will air on Dazon pay-per-view Saturday night between two big-time sluggers? Okay, this is a very simple question to answer. Who would receive more blowback from the public in the event of a loss? And the answer is Edgar Berlanga. Period.
Starting point is 00:40:34 There's no question in my mind. This is a guy who lost basically a shutout to Canelo and then did a victory lap tour afterwards. He started out with a ton of hype, right? They called him the monster. He was knocking at everybody. And then it just, he started fighting guys who, you know, weren't pre-diabetic gas station attendance and that fell off pretty quickly. And there's been a lot of controversy about him. And then even this week BC, I'm sure we'll look at it, you know, feuding with not his opponent,
Starting point is 00:41:03 but with his opponent's promoter, essentially, I guess, in Shiraz. Not even not even Shiraz. Yeah, not even. Right. You're right. What am I saying? Yeah, not even. But they were on the opposite ends of the stage. But yes, I mean, you get the idea. Oscar is there for Williams to pay that. Yeah. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah. But you get the idea. Like they're not even he's not even focused on his opponent as some kind of like noteworthy rival. It's about he's fighting Shiraz Edgar Boulangas that is true he's also fighting I think public criticism doubt you know Oscar critics he's got a lot to fight here for 12 rounds in Queens on Saturday night that actually has nothing to do with the opponent and the opponent to me offers some real stylistic challenges to him. So it's gotta be him. If he, if this backfires here, you know, you're going to watch people clown the shit out of this guy. I mean, that's probably the better answer given how much shit Berlanga talks. He says, I went,
Starting point is 00:41:59 I went toe to toe with Canelo, ask anybody in New York. And it's like, ah, no, you didn't. You got up from the knockdown. You went the distance, but yeah. But on the flip side, Luke, look, Shiraz has maybe among all other fighters who we consider Turkey's favorites. Dude, he's getting poised to be pushed to the moon. Turkey has not hesitated from not only tweeting publicly
Starting point is 00:42:21 that he hopes Shiraz does not get knocked out because he has big plans ahead for him, but those big plans have already been said. Canelo in May, it'll be down to Chris Eubank Jr. or Shiraz if they both win their next fights and obviously it might be dependent upon whether Crawford beats Canelo later this year. But Shiraz did not look ready for primetime against Adamas. Ring IQ, you know, adaptability. It just wasn't there against then a pure boxer, an elite champion there at one 60 in Adamis.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Now he's moving up in weight, new trainer and Andy Lee, a lot of pressure on him. And look, the thing about Burlanga is everybody hates him, but look, I don't think he's as bad as his critics say. I really don't, I don't, I don't think he's the same guy who knocked out 16 guys in a row in the first round. He's not that menacing, but he's confident he can punch. He's got a chin. I think a little, if you underestimate this guy, he is poised.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I think that might matter in this matchup. Yeah. I think that, um, here's what I'm going to say. Berlonga is the kind of boxer where you can have a skill advantage over him BC, but if you're not locked in mentally, in terms of what the task is, and then even under fire a little bit, you know, learn how to manage it over the course of 12 rounds, it could be a problem for you. But if you just look at the guys who have had some success against him, or, you know, learn how to manage it over the course of 12 rounds, it could be a problem for you. But if you just look at the guys who have had some success against him or, you know, in the case
Starting point is 00:43:50 of Canelo, just a route of him, he's not a smart boxer. He's not. He's a confident boxer, but he's not a smart one. He can be outsmarted, but he makes up for it with, you know, verve, gusto, little bit of punching power, attitude. He can make guys who aren't confident in their abilities wilt a little bit. I think that's the issue. But like, technically, can he be beaten? I think he can be beaten by a lot of guys in this division. The question is, you know, mentally and strategically, and how those two intersect, what is Shiraz cooking up and what can he ultimately deliver? But, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:24 Berlanga is there to be beaten. He's not clever. Interesting stuff right here. Let's go first. If you can skip down along on Luke to the face off between them that got very intense yesterday. I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna be a man, I'm gonna I got the crack, Inga. I got the crack, Inga. I got the crack.
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Starting point is 00:45:41 Because as I wrote this rundown yesterday, Berlanga had become the betting favorite again after this being a Pick them for most of the week. Are you telling me now that Shiraz is the favorite according to DraftKings? Yeah, and it's growing so early this morning. I updated the rundown. Berlanga was plus 110 I just looked five minutes ago. He's plus 125 now some money's coming in on Shiraz. So Shiraz now minus 155 he's come back in front as the favorite. This is going to be an interesting fight. We do have to get through a little bit of ridiculousness first and one of that is uh Berlanga's war with Oscar De La Hoya. The only thing we can do is play Look at me, look at me. Is that a Louis? Yeah, for you.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Is that real? Yeah, for you. Look, remember that shit? Remember that shit? Oh yeah, hey. Hey, you actually. First of all, first of all, sit down.
Starting point is 00:46:42 You have no world titles. You have no world titles. Yeah, let me put them on now. Let me put them on now, baby. I got some right here for you. Come here, I got some right here for you. Hey, listen to me. Listen to this. This guy, this guy's not even Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I've been asking for your Puerto Rican passport. Where is it at? Where's your Puerto Rican passport. Where is it at? Where's your Puerto Rican passport? Where's your Puerto Rican passport? I'm more Puerto Rican than you. I'm more Puerto Rican than you. Stop fucking fighting, man. Stop fucking fighting.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Hey, your jewelry is as fake as your wins. That jewelry's probably fake as hell. Shit, you bitch. Hey, listen. Shit. You my stripper. You my stripper. Hey, shit. You're my stripper. Hey, you're my stripper.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Take his jewelry. You're my stripper. Is that real? I was going to say, that thing just kept going. They needed to be separated in the end. I wouldn't, I would not want Oscar to be my stripper. I've been to strip clubs. I would not want Oscar to be my stripper.
Starting point is 00:47:44 I would want a woman to be my stripper. You know what I'm saying? Is that real cash that was being thrown by him or is that fake? Berlanga is the kind of guy probably dumb enough to throw real cash there rather than keeping it for himself. So probably. Yeah and also Oscar saying Puerto Rican passport. I get I get that it's been. Yeah, they're Americans Oscar. Yeah. First of all, he has a need of passport. Second of all, he's been on him saying, look, you
Starting point is 00:48:04 were born in New York, you try to represent Puerto Rico, blah, blah, blah. I mean, people used to say the same thing about Oscar born in the States. They didn't consider him a real Mexican. It is what it is right there. But let's quickly bring in Sean Zetel, Luke. We love this guy. I love Sean.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Shout out to Sean Zetel. Hey, MMA fans, if you want a guy, obviously besides BC, if you want a guy to cover in boxing who's got good takes, who loves the sport and explains it in real interesting ways, Sean Zatel is the guy you should be paying attention to. Yeah, he doesn't back away from the truth or his growing repertoire of boxing impersonations, which include Bob Arum, Caleb Plant, a few others. Here's his take while on the Porter Way podcast of trying to do Berlengah's voice. I've seen I'm like, come on Hey, yo when I went 12 with Canelo, I'm like, come on. I was told no Sean. You gotta understand
Starting point is 00:48:51 I was telling you a bitch. I don't know how you do that How you do that? That's why that's why he don't want the rematch. Yeah, I don't know how you do that man. That could have been We won't play the video due to time, but but you had mentioned it earlier this week. Shiraz went around Times Square in New York City and was asking people because Berlanga every interview is like this is my shit. I told Turkey this is my city and Shiraz is interviewing people in Times Square and they're like, who's that? I have never heard of that.
Starting point is 00:49:20 But Luke, we've heard of both who wins on Saturday. I don't discount the possibility that a guy like Berlonga can will himself to a win here. I would not discount that. This is a this is a close fight and I can understand a pick for Berlonga. Absolutely. But I'm going to go with Shiraz. I just feel like Shiraz is I'm not going to say crazy more technically sound.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I don't think that's right, but I think enough of a more developed polished game that he should be able to win seven of 12 rounds. Give me by decision. Sure. Awesome. People are wondering whether the Turkey factor will play in and he'll get a Canelo favoritism on the scorecards. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:04 But Berlonga is the hometown guy. I mean, it's in Queens, but Berlonga is the hometown guy. I'm still gonna, it's tough. I do think long-term Shiraz is the better of the two, but he's coming into the D, he's coming into 68 here. New trainer, not the best performance last time. I think this will be a close fight. I'm still leaning Berlonga. I still am. He's more accustomed to this weight class. We'll see. This is a very good fight on Saturday in that tennis stadium and in that co-main event, I believe it's just as good despite the wide odds as three division champion and WBC lightweight title holder Shakur Stevenson will be a minus
Starting point is 00:50:38 twelve hundred favorite when he enters the long-awaited mandatory challenge of thirty- 0 Williams Zepeda who is plus 700 and Shakur has been spicy whether he's been sitting down with me on the BCX or on Ariel's show or anytime they put a microphone in front of him including when it's time to run all over Mike Coppinger but Shakur got so spicy in predicting the finish that we had to bring in Cuervo for a little shots fire As always shots fire brought to you by Cuervo now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila Here's Shakur Stevenson at the final press conference Predicting Saturday night's co-main event. I've been calling this dude out for three years. I heard Oscar say that they've been trying to get this fight for three years, but they're
Starting point is 00:51:29 lying. They had opportunity to fight me before they turned it down and it was all Oscar. So come Saturday night, I'm coming in here to beat his ass. He gonna come, he gonna be tough, strong, but I'm coming to whoop his ass. I stand by that. I stand by that. I'm fucking him up Fucking him up Lucas been a rough two years for Shakur PR wise But the odds don't lie here is the pain is one of the toughest challenges on his resume, an active, aggressive volume puncher. But I got to side with what Shakur saying and what the odds makers are
Starting point is 00:52:10 saying if he's going to bounce back and he's got all the pressure on him to that to bounce back and not look boring, not look anything else. He might just F F up this guy in the end. I do worry about Shakur's hands. It doesn't seem like they ever really heal even in his last bout You know it showed up again and it doesn't seem to be like the kind of thing where it prevents him from winning BC But it does prevent him from being fully himself He's constantly having to on to some level Holster his weapons and I would just like to see one case like wouldn't it be awesome We just have a fight where like Shakur gave you the, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:47 in terms of boxing scale, the full Monty, you know what I mean? Where you really got to see, cause you always see these glimpses of the defense, you see these glimpses of the precision punching, the jabbing, but like in a case where he really is quite dominant with it, cause he doesn't have to pump the brakes at all.
Starting point is 00:53:02 That's what I would like to see here, but you know, I respect Zepeda BC. I'm sure you do as well. Anyone who watches boxing probably wouldn't. I don't in any way discount your characterization that he's one of the tougher matchups possible for Shakur at the stage of his career and given where things are.
Starting point is 00:53:16 But I just think he's overmatched. I think Shakur is just totally overmatched. Shakur needs to fight someone if you really want to see him tested that not only has physical tools that make him think but can not, he doesn't have to be quite as technically precise but has to keep him guessing a little bit. I don't know if Zepeda is that guy.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I think this is Shikor's fight to lose like most of them are. I think Zepeda does not have the power that say Edwin De Los Santos has which produced that very boring fight against Shikor. I think the pressure is on Shikor and he knows it. He's sick of the criticism. And most importantly, Zapata's style is tailor-made. Shakur looks at his bet, looks his best when you come after him like Oscar Valdez did, right? Then you'll see the full pound for pound guy who will stand in the pocket, dodge punches and counter big. Your right to call out the hands. Ariel had said when they did that interview that they had a very weak shake
Starting point is 00:54:07 and a lot of people are pointing to the pictures of Shakur's hands during the press events this week not looking so great. I still think he gets it done and gets it done in a big way. So shots fired indeed and a reminder from the great folks at Cuervo that we'll be back next Wednesday, July 16th, 11 a.m. Eastern in our studio there in Metal Arc in Manhattan for UFC 318 pregame preview brought to you by Cuervo Luke Thomas Brian Campbell and Jed Meshew number two. Luke very quickly Sebastian Fondor around the corner UFC Nashville preview to come. We can't overlook that Alberto Pueyo title defense at 140 against Subriel Matias. As we stand right now, the odds are telling you that this is going to
Starting point is 00:54:50 be a very good fight with the pressure style of both, although they're different in how they apply it. Pueyo minus 125, Matias plus 100. Where are you leaning on this one? Man, this is an interesting one. Matias came out of the PBC for a while, and he was just sitting everybody down. I think he had five guys quit on the stool in a row. Something absurd, right? I mean, he is, there was a while there where he was looking like the boogie man.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Then he goes in signs with Eddie Hearn in a Puerto Rican homecoming fight, and it didn't go great. His stock has come a little bit down to earth, plus he's a slow starter. This is an interesting one for me, BC, because I think Matias is absolutely gonna have his moments and then several rounds,
Starting point is 00:55:31 especially starting after round six. I think he's gonna have Pueyo in a lot of trouble. But dude, Pueyo's crafty. He's crafty. He's got a lot of skills. He doesn't, yes, he can come forward. He can fight on the move as well. And I think he's a little rangier too. So I He can fight, you know, on the move as well. And I think he's a little rangier too.
Starting point is 00:55:46 So I think this is, you know, I love watching Matias compete, but I think this is Pueyo's time to shine. This is a great fight, a tough fight, but a lot for Matias to overcome here. I would agree there. It's possible that what he does best could factor into here, but I think Pueyo is too quick has the length has the volume and I think he knows how to win close fights like that title defense against Sandor Martin last time. I scored that for
Starting point is 00:56:15 Martin Pueyo was barely able to get that edge. Also, Luke David Morrell Jr's back coming off the loss to David Benavides. He'll take on 10 and 0 Russian who fights Olympic silver medalist who fights out of Australia, Imam Kataev. But that fellow we just found out is currently in the midst of a two-year drug suspension and he's gonna fight anyway. So there you go. I don't know how that's possible. Hey, boxing. Yeah. Yeah. That is that is what we do right there. Alright, let Let's transition the topic. Number three, we'll get into the MMA Sebastian Fondor still to come.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It's UFC fight night, Nashville. It goes down Saturday night, not in that damn apex, right in front of an actual crowd in Tennessee. And this road to UFC fight night preview is brought to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC get unlimited data that won't flow you down. So heavyweights in the main event and despite just one UFC fight coming in, six foot seven Brazilian Taliesin Teixeira is entering his first main event in the Octagon
Starting point is 00:57:18 and he's more than a two to one betting favorite against 40 year old Derek Lewis, who's won two of his last three and of course owns that UFC record for most knockouts. Luke, honest question. Is this too much too soon for the 25 year old to share a, who had stopped all eight of his opponents in the first round as a professional, or would you say this is strong fast track matchmaking to try to find new contenders in a division like heavyweight that's always shallow, bro You know heavyweight is in deep shit when?
Starting point is 00:57:50 They're fast tracking guys there like they do at flyweight Right when when heavyweight contendership cues look like water slides You know, you know, it's like not a not what it used to be. Now, that being said, I don't dislike this fight. And in fact, Taliesin is an interesting guy. You know, range, you're certainly taller. I'll say this. I've always believed I've always believed and I will always believe if you see a guy,
Starting point is 00:58:21 even if he's got one UFC win, but all the wins basically come around first round and first round stoppage, that means that they're obviously good and that they're obviously dangerous, but that they probably haven't fought anybody. And that will change here with this one. Now, I don't think Derrick Lewis is, you know, what he was at his very best,
Starting point is 00:58:41 but he's still a dynamite puncher. Long Island Luke, can you give me the weigh-in information? Cause I believe this was the lightest that Derrick Lewis has come in in years on weigh-in day, which is gonna be helpful because he's gonna need to be a little bit more mobile. Although I did think that there was a chance he might wrestle, what do you got for me?
Starting point is 00:58:59 He's not that light, 261 and to share is 259. No? Yeah. So I could have sworn I read that he came in much lighter, 261 and to shares 259 no So I could have sworn I read that he came in much lighter, but okay, maybe I missed that part Doesn't matter there is a chance. He could wrestle here BC. I think it's kind of interesting so you're gonna get a fuller test maybe of To share his game, but if it stays standing Derek Lewis might get real fucked up here. Like T'shara can do those kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah, well, I mean, just like again, who's more proven? Derek Lewis. Derek Lewis is infinitely more proven, has fought way better guys, has beaten better guys, of course. But, you know, he's getting a little bit up and long in the tooth. And T'shara is at least from a stylistic perspective, the kind of frame and skill set that could give Derrick Lewis a ton of problems for sure. My fear is just what we talked about,
Starting point is 00:59:57 that it's too much too soon. Like when Alexander Romanoff arrived on the scene and was, you know, bodying dudes and wrestling the shit out of them, or Robelis Desponpagne at 6'7". And we're like, oh my God, this guy might be a high kicking killer. The reality is T'Chara has not gotten out of the first round in eight pro fights. The other reality is that although he knocked out Justin Taffa in 35 seconds in his debut
Starting point is 01:00:21 in February of this year, that was the first opponent he fought with a Wikipedia page. He did knock out Arthur Lopez on the Dana White Contenders series the year before. Luke, we don't know jack shit about his stamina, about his wrestling game. We only know that he's got really weird spiderweb tats on his mid drift here. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I mean, it is a Lewis who's won two of his last three. It is a Lewis who's always going to have that puncher's chance. This is a very interesting matchup, but one that we're going to pause here and come back on the other side because our special guest has arrived on this Friday. We're a little bit over a week out from the July 19th PBC on prime pay-per-view, which of course brings the return of Manny Pacquiao at 46 years old. You know who else it brings back? the return of Manny Pacquiao at 46 years old.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Do you know who else it brings back? The towering Inforo, Sebastian Fundora, the elite junior middleweight, the world champion who in that co-main event will be taking on Tim Zoo for the second time to
Starting point is 01:01:22 defend that WBC title. Sebastian, thank you so much for taking the time to join us. That first fight was blood, guts, insanity. You weathered the storm. Zoo, to his credit, fought supremely well despite blood flowing in his face the whole time. Tell us, because we're laymans here. We're also lame, Sebastian. What the hell is it like to be in a blood and guts war like that? Because you always are smiling like you're having a good time.
Starting point is 01:01:50 It's just something we do, you know, as fighters, uh, we go on there and we break each other's faces and it's just another day in the office. There it is. Just like that. All right. I mean, it is, it is wild. I watched the fantastic gloves off special that prime and PBC put out, your episode with Tim Zue showing, of course, the great Fundora family, the farm there, the multiple world champions with your sister Gabriella, and then you've got a younger sister on the way as well.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Talk to me about that life, because it seems simple. It seems like you're all about boxing and nothing else besides family. Where does this come from? Was your dad a fighter back in the day? He's the trainer. He's the architect of this. It seems very pure and all about the smoke.
Starting point is 01:02:34 You're just boxers. That's what you are. That's exactly what it is. What the video showed is our lifestyle, boxing. Of course, my father being a professional fighter back when he was younger and now being our coach definitely helped us become professional fighters or want this career path for ourselves but we we've been doing this our whole life as a family as well so it's just it's nice
Starting point is 01:03:03 that all these dreams are coming true. Uh my sister's dreams coming true and now we have another one coming in Fabiola Fundora. She's a twisted sister and uh you know I I think she's the she's the next big thing in boxing. Okay so you cut Tim or Tim Tzu got cut I should say in the course of this fight and for folks who have never seen it it wasn't here it was on top of the head and it just got blood everywhere. Did his amount of bleeding which is one of the most I've ever seen was that ever distracting for you? I know you're focused I know you're a professional but dude that he had so much blood you were showered in blood by the time it was over. It didn't distract me.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I wasn't bleeding like that. Why would it bother me? To watch a guy with blood gushing all over him in highly unusual ways, I don't know, that seems a little distracting. I would imagine if you're maybe not a boxer, but this is boxing, we get hit. There's gonna be damage, this is boxing we get hit there's gonna be damage there's gonna be blood there's gonna be swelling those are things that happen in combat sports. Alright so let's talk about some X's and O's here.
Starting point is 01:04:16 When you fought him over the course of the 12 rounds what was the most important technical problem you had to solve in order to win? I don't think there was a problem. It was just that I needed to stick to my game. I needed my father to send me out there to box them. We went there and we boxed them. Maybe in the beginning we had a little rough start, but it wasn't anything too crazy in my mind. but it wasn't anything too crazy in my mind.
Starting point is 01:04:51 In terms of what you had anticipated from Tim Tzu and then what you ultimately got, was it exactly what you thought it would be or did you learn anything new about him through the course of that contest? I think it was exactly what I thought it was going to be. He's a warrior, he was a world champion, what I was gonna be you know he's a warrior he was a world champion talented fighter we saw those things but we adjusted and we'd be on the fight where does that performance from you and that win rank in terms of your professional career is that your favorite win to date or is there a different one it's definitely not my favorite win, but, uh, it did make me a unified world champion, so that's something I'm always going to have to cherish. Uh, that's when the G the dream finally came true.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Well, it's a, it's a testament to your belief in yourself, your work ethic, your ability to bounce back because you took that fight against Tim zoo on extreme last note extreme last minute notice when Keith Thurman pulled out due to injury, got an opportunity to headline PBC's first pay-per-view in the prime era, but you were coming off of a knockout loss to Brian Mendoza that I think people
Starting point is 01:05:56 who maybe didn't believe in you said, look, there's my proof. And you know, Sebastian, it seemed like a pretty devastating KO. How do you, or how did you bounce, Sebastian, it seemed like a pretty devastating KO. How do you, or how did you bounce back mentally regain your invincibility and say, yeah, not only am I okay fighting zoo last minute. Hey, if it gets blood and guts and it gets crazy, I'm willing to thrive in there. That was impressive from the outside looking in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:23 We don't really focus on the past. You know with that fight with Mendoza it happened. You know simple mistake. We're winning that fight pretty easy, but again that simple mistake will cost you that fight and we lost and accept that but you know just like if
Starting point is 01:06:38 if I were one to fight we would have went back to the gym and started training again and that's exactly what we did. They knocked on the door with the title fight. And of course we're not going to say, no, we were right there at that. I mean, we're into champion at the time. So we were ready for those fights. It's just, you know, we, we tripped, but we got back up. Speaking of that first fight one more time, that cut changed a lot of things. It also ultimately changed your game plan as you really won that fight with your jab. I mean, you had to be gnarly,
Starting point is 01:07:09 you had to take big punishment, you had to be willing to get in there, but you always are to your credit. When did that switch game plan wise, where you're like, I can keep them at distance with this big left hand or the big right hand, excuse me. It's just, I think that was a plan from the beginning. Again, it just, maybe I started a little slower than I should have, but, uh, that
Starting point is 01:07:32 was always the plan from the beginning. That cut was there. A lot of people like to bring up the cut, but, and a lot of people like to make excuses for Tim. I mean, he's saying it now too, but, uh, I remember every single round he was staring at me pretty well. I think if it was really that bad, or he really thought it was that hard, they would have stopped the fight. What do you say to critics who say before the cut, Tim was having great success and look like
Starting point is 01:08:02 he was hurting you, look like he was backing you up. How do you respond to that? Championship fights aren't two rounds. Yeah. You know, it's a 12 round fight. And I felt I won that fight pretty fairly easy. But, you know, with this fight, you guys are going to see a whole different fight. I look forward to showing you guys next week for sure. Oh, I look forward to seeing it. Sebastian, you better believe that. I got to ask you how this fight came together. You had two or four recognized belts in this division. Xander Zayas was your mandatory. It looked like it came to some negotiation. And then you announced the zoo rematch, which I'd prefer as a fan. How did that break down behind the
Starting point is 01:08:42 scenes? It's just really as simple as that. You know, with you saying that as a fan, you're not the only one thinking those things. There's bigger fights to be made, you know. Belts are nice, but I mean, when you have like legacy fights compared to those, everything's kind of extra. You know, you want to make a stamp in this sport. I think this fight was Sue's definitely going to put a bigger stamp than me
Starting point is 01:09:09 defending my WBO with Zayas. You know, you've, you've mentioned that you got the chance to become, and you did become a unified champ and you're talking now about like there being legacy and other things, if we spoke in five years, right? Five years from today, what would you have want to accomplish? Like what would be for you an ideal set of circumstances that would make you feel completely fulfilled as a boxing professional?
Starting point is 01:09:39 As of right now, I feel pretty fulfilled, but we continue to grow. We'll see, we'll see in five years. Five years is a long time. There's a lot of stuff we could do in five years. So, you know, maybe multiple divisions or maybe undisputed at this weight class. We'll see, we'll see five years is a long time.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I think in one year you'll see a big difference. Do you watch tape on your opponent? Sometimes but not really a big thing for my camp. My father does a lot of the looking, watching the fights. Of course I just have to listen to my dad but I watch boxing but I don't really watch my opponents uh does he is he the one that comes up with the game plan then of course of course yeah that's the head answer right there yeah don't want to get sideways with dad I understand uh humor me if you can here put put on put on your boxing analyst tie, if you would, right?
Starting point is 01:10:46 Here we have Sebastian Fundora, a champion, a world champion in boxing. Give me a sense of what you think about how competitive Canelo and Crawford is gonna be in September. I don't think it's gonna be, maybe it might be competitive the first four rounds. I Want to see how Crawford does going up to 168 how comfortable he is because from 147 to 154 those you see a
Starting point is 01:11:17 Slower pace in him and now we're going to mug weight classes up Let's see if this time he had a rest Two more weight classes up. Let's see if this time he had a rest, he can adjust to the weight class because he's a fast fighter. He's a great fighter. But Canelo's been at this weight class for a while. He's been adjusted to his weight class.
Starting point is 01:11:36 He's even fought at 175. So we'll see if Crawford can make the adjustments at that weight class because he's a great 147. He's a good 154, but is he good at 168? Yeah, we're going to find out. Keep your analyst tie on for a second. The main event next Saturday, July 19th, BBC on prime pay per view.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Of course, is Manny Pacquiao at 46 same age as me, by the way, Sebastian. I get in that ring only to interview you. That's about it. But the great Pacquiao will be back challenging Mario Barrios for his welterweight Same age as me, by the way, Sebastian, I get in that ring only to interview you. That's about it. But the great Pacquiao will be back challenging Mario Barrios for his welterweight world title. You're a fighter. He's got four years off. He's already accomplished everything, but man, he does seem like a one of one
Starting point is 01:12:17 alien that if anybody could pull off something crazy like this, it might be him. How do you break this fight down when you look at it? What is this fight going to look like? To me, I see it as a 50-50. Barrios, maybe a 45-50 for Barrios. Barrios is young. Barrios is a strong champion and he's been getting better with every fight. But Pacquiao is Pacquiao, of course. You know, we saw him with Thurman. We did see him with Ugas. But that's why it gives me a little question. Because of his last fight, you see the age a little bit,
Starting point is 01:12:55 and now he's even older. So we'll see how he comes up for this one. Hopefully he took that rest, and now he's a bit more motivated. But again, Father Time is undefeated. So we will see. Two quick ones before we go, Sebastian. Thank you so much for your time.
Starting point is 01:13:12 You're aligned with some very powerful people. You're a great promoter, Samson Lukowitz, Al Hayman, PBC. But the boxing landscape is changing so quickly. Jake Paul's a power promoter. Turkey Alashik is working with everyone, it seems. David Benavides, David Morrell Jr., a few others. Now you got Dana White and the UFC coming in. What do you make of all this kind of crazy change to the foundation and the structure of what we're dealing with and making big fights?
Starting point is 01:13:40 It's different. It's definitely different. It's not what the, I guess the boxing world is used to, but you know what is bringing in different fans, bringing in different people. It seems good for boxing and if anything is good for boxing, I'm fine with it. All right. All right. Finally to close here, Sebastian, you're six foot six, man. I asked you in the past, if you play hoops, if you got game, you're like, I don't even think I could pick up a ball and dribble it. If we set up a hoop at 10 feet, you got to be able to dunk it. Come on, Seb. You know you can. Tell me what happens. Is this going to look like white man can't jump? What is it?
Starting point is 01:14:19 No, no. I could do it. I could do it. But right now, you know what? I'm not even caring about basketball. Look at the hat. Look at the hat. I'm a baseball man right now. That's what I care about. That and boxing, those are the only things that matter. There it is. Sebastian Fundor, we can't wait just eight days from now. The rematch with Tim Tzu to defend your WBC title at 154. Maybe another fight of the year contender coming our way. Thank you for the time. Best of luck to you next week. Thank you, Brian. Good stuff there from the towering inferno, all six six of him. Luke, let's get back into our UFC Nashville preview. Of course, brought to you by Total Wireless as we are on the road here to UFC Fight Night with the official wireless provider of UFC Get Unlimited
Starting point is 01:15:03 Data that won't slow you down. We set it up with Derek Lewis being the underdog here at plus two 40. He is though, riding a streak in which he's one, two of three. He's on a little bit of an uptick. Luke, how much for the minus two 98 Taliesin should we be worried about the fact that he's never gotten out of the first round and that outside of taking one half of the tour at Taffa dude, he ain't fought anybody with a pulse. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, it's completely legitimate.
Starting point is 01:15:31 There is simply no way to know until we know, right? I mean, that's just the reality. This is a sport where people's confidence, you confidence in you, I should say, pardon me, comes from being vetted and he he's not been vetted in that way that Derek has been vetted. Derek, and by the way, 261 is the lightest he's ever come in. So I was right about that. Now it's not a huge amount,
Starting point is 01:15:53 but certainly is somewhat noteworthy. But okay. You had diarrhea, you never know. Yeah, listen, I had diarrhea before the show. You understand? Hey, listen, I mean, if anybody understands, I mean, come on now. But what I'm just trying to be serious for a moment,
Starting point is 01:16:09 listen, what if he has, to the point you raised, we see what if his cardio falls off a cliff midway through second round? What if he gets taken down and looks like a fucking amateur? We don't know the answers to these. We just don't. So I can understand why they're, I can understand why the odds makers are the way they are
Starting point is 01:16:24 because they're probably betting on the fact that he's a little bit more youthful, doesn't have as many miles on him relatively speaking through MMA anyway, and has a style that's gonna be a real problem for Derek. And what I think they're simultaneously betting is that Derek is over the hill, essentially. That yes, he is more proven, he is more vetted,
Starting point is 01:16:42 he's got wins over better guys, but he's just a shell of himself. I think that's what they're kind of expecting here. Um, I think, you know, they're probably right, but certainly Derek Lewis has upset a lot of people in, in pretty big ways in the past. Well, I'm not trying to say to share a camp fight and he can't punch. He's shown you that in the brief glimpses we've got, but long Island Luke from a betting standpoint, again, plus 240 on the greatest knockout king in UFC history. Are you taking it? Yeah, I got him at plus 230. I saw it just grew to plus 240, but yeah, dude, it all comes
Starting point is 01:17:16 down to the experience for me. Tileson Tashara has eight pro fights. Derrick Lewis has 29 fights in the UFC. He's got more than three times the amount of UFC fights as Tshara has pro fights. Granted, he's 40 years old. He may be over the hill, but I feel like at the odds, at heavyweight, you gotta take the plus money. Hey, if I'm him, I'm trying to take him down. I'm trying to-
Starting point is 01:17:36 I will say this. Let me ask, but what if Taliesin gets another first round KO? What would that say to you? Because then we can be. We can be really excited about his future. He's only 25 years old. I'll look forward to it. You know, I was gonna say it still doesn't really answer some of the bigger
Starting point is 01:17:52 questions that you're kind of hoping to get from Derek like. What I hope this happens in this fight. If nothing else, PC win or lose is that it goes to the second or third round and you get something because he's not. He's not really going to answer the wrestling questions unless to share as wrestling is horrible, you know?
Starting point is 01:18:06 But if it's serviceable he should be fine, but it's like what does he look like over the course of the distance? But if he ices Derek in the first round, you kind of have the same problem because I'm telling you the reason the odds look that way is not because people are like oh Toshira's the next coming of championship gold. They're looking at Derek and they're like, he's looking a little bit like food at the stage of his career. And whether or not that's fair, I think it's what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Well, the guy loves food. Let's be very honest with you, okay? There's no doubt about that. I mean, I'd take the gamble on him, but I'd also, I gotta see how good Toshira is. It's gonna be a very, very interesting fight for as long as it lasts. I hope Derek wrestles.
Starting point is 01:18:41 I hope he tries hard in that regard to expose Toshira and get him into the later rounds. Let's talk about this co-main event, the welterweight division as 42 year old Stephen Wonderboy Thompson, the former two time title challenger has lost four of his last five and he will be a plus 350 underdog against Brazilian submission expert, Gabrielle Bonefeme, who comes in at nearly five to one. The betting favorite, Luke Thomas, is this going to be a pretty good celebrity name to add to bone themes, uh, Wikipedia page here, or can you see a path for wonder boy to slow down this young aggressive fighter?
Starting point is 01:19:19 What were the odds again? Minus four 55 bone theme plus three 50 wonder boy. Jesus. I, the thing is this, it's like, I'm ready to believe that the bet, the very best, even like the mostly best of wonder boy is behind us. Am I crazy in thinking that's a little bit too much confidence in bone theme? Am I? Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:42 But wonder boy was stopped in his last two, albeit submission by Shavkat, knockout by Buckley. Yeah. I think Bone Fiend should win this. I think that the chin of Wonder Boy, he's hard to hit obviously, but the chin is a little bit diminished. Plus, people kind of know how to fight him now in ways that they didn't for, you know, pretty long periods of time. But the time, you know, the era of him giving Woodley as a champion all he could handle, or at least, you know, something he could handle anyway, was long since over. Now, again, Shavkat more proven. Buckley even, despite his last fight, more proven. Bon Fim to me, I don't know, this seems a little little like I don't quite agree with the odds being where they are.
Starting point is 01:20:26 However, however, I do think I just feel like there's so much tape and Wonder Boy without denial is simply in a much more diminished state than he has been even even relative to a couple of years ago. Bonfim should win this. Yeah, Bonfim or as they call him, Maratinha. Luke, is that the nickname? I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:47 But I don't know. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I don't know. Yeah. I don't speak Portuguese. He is 17 and one overall as a professional that only lost was three fights ago, two years ago to Nicholas Dalby via second round TKO with me. And that was a bad loss for me.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Like that loss when I w I remember watching it being like, you know, Dolby is I'm not sure if I'm going to play a K. O. with which was a and that was a bad loss for me like that loss when I remember watching it being like you you know Dolby is not a technician. He's a grinder and a pursuer but he's not a technician and it's like I just wonder what might happen against someone
Starting point is 01:21:20 who is slick enough to set stuff up and then you know hit you from angles. I guess we'll see. Yeah, we will see on that one. Continuing on down this card, Long Island Luke told us this week, I think as did you Luke, that we need to circle this featherweight matchup with Calvin Cater going in there against Steve Garcia.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Garcia a minus 125 favorite to the plus 105 Cater who is 37 years old and I got bad news for you. He's lost four in a row, including five of his last six. Who's coming or going in this matchup? I like Garcia here. I think Cater is listen. I think Cater is a great guy. We've both probably interviewed him a couple of times.
Starting point is 01:21:57 He seems like a cool dude. His camp seems like a real great camp. Shouts to New England, Cartel and Tyson Chardier. I like all of those guys. I really do. I'm not trying to be dismissive or insulting when I say this, but dude, like cater's damaged goods, man. Like he has been beaten up a lot. And the max fight is the one that everyone remembers, but like there's been a lot of these fights that have been too much damage
Starting point is 01:22:21 incurred. And I just think it has derailed him at this point. I mean, I think he, I don't think this fight is unwinnable. That would be a little crazy, but I think he's on the other side of something and it's going to be very difficult even to hold on to what he has. Steve Garcia has won five in a row all by stoppage including one against chase Hooper to kick off that streak. This would be a much bigger name for him to add to that but you know cater is going to be game and willing to go for it. That's the problem. Yeah that's the problem. Yeah and we are told by Long Island Luke that mahatina means little hammer like mahatab. That's my he's asking. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I'm guessing. Yeah. Oh, I thought he was describing the Portuguese for us. I, you know, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe there's an Australian equivalent that he knew. I don't know. Oh, Luke, Nate, the train in the UFC is back at featherweight.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Nate land where we'll take on Morgan. Do I say sharp charrier charrier? Sherry. Yeah. I think, yeah. Cherry a, uh, you, you care about this this I always care when they the train yeah this is an interesting one chari a is like a little bit of a slick stir when it comes to striking not not super great at it but he's got a little bit of an in them and you know we all know what the name land where experiences the locomotive just keeps on moving. the locomotive just keeps on moving. Although he's got some slickness to his game in certain respects, but you know, I don't know if a guy like Cherrier can with...
Starting point is 01:23:50 What are the odds on this one? Because my hunch is that Cherrier is not... Landwehr has had some rougher patch more recently. However, Cherrier, I don't know if he's able to handle the pressure of someone like this consistently over 15 minutes. What are the odds on this one? According to giraffe, I don't have draft Kings in front of me. Luke. Do you have a long? I got it's plus 210 Nate minus 250 right shariah. Oh that high well
Starting point is 01:24:17 Yeah, Nate's a pretty big dog. I mean Yeah, how do you feel about that long? I don't Luke Because again, I do think Sharii is the more polished of the two and that typically ends up being Landwehr's kryptonite, but I don't know if he's fought someone who just will bark at him or the whole kind of time. I think it's because Nate's coming off that stoppage loss to do Ho Choi in which he kind of got dominated. So I feel like stock is low in Nate right now, but I think it's closer than the odds
Starting point is 01:24:48 I'm staying away from a super but super boys a puncher Sure, yeah, remember he got him in a crucifix though and finished him in a crucifix It was he finished him on the ground. Yeah, but he fucked him up on the feet, too Like I mean it wasn't one of the other yeah, I mean, but Morgan's gonna fuck him up on the feet, too probably so one or the other. Yeah, I mean, but Morgan's going to fuck him up on the feet too, probably. So chariot has lost two of his last three though, and he calls himself the last pirate. It's interesting, dude, the whole pirate gimmick him and a sharl bullet. It's like, dude, I don't know who needs to tell you this. Pirates are lame as fuck. Like, it's the are matey. Let's not get scurvy with the maidens. Hey, take off that fucking bandana and stop playing Dungeons and Dragons.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Thank you. There we go with that. Wow. But last time we saw Derek Lewis, by the way, I believe it was the last time he showed us a lot of himself. Can we recall that moment? That was brief. Oh, Luke, if he does upset Taliesin to share, uh, he's gotta go full Monte, right?
Starting point is 01:25:45 That's the only move left in the playbook. BC BC straight up BC is straight up asking me on a Friday morning, if Derek Lewis wins, does he need to masturbate in front of everybody? And I'm like, you see, that's free. That's for you at the bus stop, buddy. All right. Real question. If he knocked out to share a, and then went full hog, not, not to touch the thing,
Starting point is 01:26:06 just to show the sponsor loves this conversation. Does he get, does he lose his job? Does he get arrested? What happens next? You don't get in trouble in the U S Steve. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, you do UFC. You got to kill a guy before then. And even then they'll bail you out and let you fight. So no, I don't think you'd be in any trouble, but you know, to your point, there will be, there will be antics. How about that? You've a mystically, there will be antics. Uh, long Island Luke, let us know on the early way and results that
Starting point is 01:26:34 Chidi and Jaquani and as well to where he bought against Jake Matthews has missed weight by a half pound coming in at 171.5. We'll keep you updated with any other changes. Uh, what else are we caring about on this card Luke? I mean Max Griffon Chris Curtis is becoming some trash talk fueled action at welterweight that we're going to see in that future pre-lip. I've been talking to Chris Curtis all week and you know just a reminder he's going to welterweight in this fight which you know he went like one and three in the pfl and I wasn wasn't too sure about it I've been checking in on him every day quite literally about
Starting point is 01:27:07 his weight cut it has gone exceedingly well I don't know has he weighed in already long on Luke yeah the weigh-ins are over everyone made weight except shitty okay okay yeah so I mean he told me I think yesterday he woke up at 170.6. So the weight cut went super smooth for him. Now that doesn't tell you everything. I think Max Griffin is gonna be on him and try and wrestle him like white on rice. So his gas tank is gonna get tested in here.
Starting point is 01:27:36 You can get stalled out. This is a big fight for Chris Curtis because he's getting older. He's trying to shake things up here a little bit. The thing that's held him back is the body punching. I don't know if the judges really recognize it, even when it's valuable. And it takes him some time occasionally to get things going.
Starting point is 01:27:52 And Griffin is the kind of guy who can just stall you out, even if he can't do necessarily a lot of damage. So it's a bit of a trickier fight than it looks, but at least in terms of the weight cut, Chris Curtis looks pretty ready. Look, if Topurlia had missed weight against Olivera, do you think he would have took one of those blinking lights from Chef Cass and put it on his balls and knocked him out and blamed him publicly? Yeah, we're going to lose this sponsor and I don't blame him. You know what I'm
Starting point is 01:28:15 saying? Sorry about that. Sorry about that. Long Island Luke, do you have anything else to say about betting bangers on this undercard? Betting bangers, not so much. I do like Jake Matthews as a dog, especially now that Njokawani missed weight. Junior Tafo, we mentioned earlier in the week, making his light heavyweight debut. That could be something new and exciting, I don't know. Tima Klein, Long Island's own, opening the card. She's like a minus 1,000 favorite, so whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:41 She's pretty good. Shout out, yeah, she's really good. Yeah, there we go, all right. Let's go to topic number four. It got bad shit crazy yesterday. I was here for most of it, but I'm excited to hear what Luke has to say. BKFC put together what can only be called craziness. It was a summit meeting. It was a, uh, they called it the champion summit in which Conor McGregor, David Feldman and company gave a state of the promotion address. And from the intense fireworks that were shown
Starting point is 01:29:11 between McGregor and Mike Perry to a comically sad vibe overall that screamed strip club buffet with the side of white light. And this thing was the kind of embarrassing train wreck that you couldn't avoid that only the state of Florida could normalize. Shout out to Hollywood down there.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Oh yeah, they also announced a $25 million baddest man tournament beginning in March of next year that will feature 32 competitors and a first prize, and this is no joke, of $15 million. Luke Thomas, considering how much we talk about the lack of legitimate competition for the UFC in the MMA space, what type of potential disruptor do you believe this BKFC ambitious tournament could be in the overall combat sports news cycle next year?
Starting point is 01:29:58 They have to pull it off, right? So I agree with you. I looked at the prize money. I mean, I think it's 15 million for the winner. And I think the runner up also gets a million. But then it's still some pretty high prizes, even up to I forget how much every participant gets. There's a breakdown of it. I think Ben Devane Davis has one, if you guys want to see it. It's interesting. It's an interesting concept. Fifteen million is going to be the most that those guys who are competing in that have probably ever gotten or will ever get. That's the most that any UFC fighter has ever gotten, right? I mean, seriously. Right. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, right. I mean, it's, I mean, it's, it's extremely, dude,
Starting point is 01:30:45 that's like, that's very good boxer money, much less, you know, bare knuckle. I mean, it's got to be a record for bare knuckle. And so the point I'm trying to make is like, there's this kind of tournament, where you're going to have ostensibly a bunch of different figures, you got a real prize at the end. Now they got to pull it off, BC, they got to do it big, we've seen them do a big, they can do that. And they have to get a little lucky. Everybody knows what makes the tournament magic is yes,
Starting point is 01:31:06 the promoter promotes it, they set up the brackets right, you got the right names, but at some point, it just kind of has to unfold in a way that makes sense for everybody. So it's really gonna come down to who's in this tournament, how they're matched up, what kind of things they deliver. But to answer the question, you know, to succeed in the way that you're talking about,
Starting point is 01:31:24 it requires a lot. What I will say is this tournament, if executed well and with a little bit of luck behind it, dude, it could do a lot. It could be, you know, I poo poo them for other reasons. They signed Jamil Herring, who was fresh off of domestic violence arrest because that's just combat sports these days.
Starting point is 01:31:42 You gotta love Hitler or be racist to get a job apparently. But they know how to deliver action, they've proven that, and they've got, as we indicated, real prize money at the end. PFL just puts, I think Dan Hardy is doing his level best to make the product better, and he is, but I think to MMA fans, it just doesn't feel like a useful alternative to UFC. BKFC could do interesting things. So we can't say at the outset what's going to happen, but what I can say is are the ingredients there to make a quantum leap forward for the brand?
Starting point is 01:32:19 Yes. And look, this press conference was full of out of control fireworks that at the end of the day, I didn't hate, but dude, they have cornered the market. They know exactly who they are. They are a trashy pro wrestling style presentation using combat names we know and to some degree like it depends on the names in this tournament. What weight class is it going to be? Did they say that?
Starting point is 01:32:43 It's open weight. Is it not? Did I miss that part? Yeah. It's like 185 to 265. I think. Yeah. It's like open weight. Yeah. Which, which by the way, this is what I mean. And it's one of the things that one did well, you know, one having a different scoring criteria, different rule set, you know, the hydration thing was stupid, but everything else has been kind of interesting. A genuine alternative gamifying MMA with lesser names,
Starting point is 01:33:07 not always, but often lesser names, is not a real alternative. But a bare-knuckle thing with an open weight system, dude, you're probably going to get some interesting results out of that, some predictable ones too, obviously. But this is what I mean as a who can provide a genuine alternative to what UFC is doing. BKFC again has the ingredients. I wonder if they bring in boxers. I wonder if you bring in, you know, you know, think about older names. Here's the prize. First place 15 million, second place a million, third and fourth 500k, fifth through eighth 300k, ninth through sixteenth 200k, 17th through 32nd 100k so if you're in this tournament they may be basically so you get 100k alternates 50k dude those
Starting point is 01:33:54 are no bullshit those are no bullshit purses that is a legitimate fucking prize dude i wonder if they bring in every free agent in combat sports possible who has a name even if you're old, the weight classes seem to be you know, what do you say 185 to to heavyweight there like people age later more gracefully. I wonder if they're gonna attract a lot of names with this, but it was part of a larger announcement with for a lot of things. I think two divisions. They're going to do a four-man tournament to crown a new champion there where the title is vacant. They
Starting point is 01:34:27 also announced four big signings long on look if we show that that graphic of former MMA names, Joel Romero, Maheta, Tiago Santos, Derek, Cisco Brunson, and Aspen Lad. Luke, I know none of those four names are in their marketable or critical prime but those are names that I'll tune in for and I know not all those are going to be in this tournament, but a few of them probably will be. I'm non plus by those names. Those names don't do **** for me. Um but if three of the
Starting point is 01:34:59 four of those are in the heavyweight, this this open weight tournament, whatever it is, I'm into it. Alright, I'm into it. Yeah I'm into it yeah I don't know they didn't do much for me but that doesn't matter like the question is what they do for the market and that remains to be seen but I will say this and I think you would agree they need a couple of really interesting names in this tournament and I don't know who that would be I don't know who's available I'm not sure what that looks like but they do they need some names and fans to go whoa that is surprising like the you know, like when Paulie Malnagi fought Artem Lobov, I know he lost but it was like a really interesting moment where it's like whoa
Starting point is 01:35:30 This is how like there was intrigue to it based on his background. You need something like that Let's get Francis and Ghana win this Hey Dude, who the fuck wants to fight Francis Baird? Well, I mean 15 million is potentially just just sign. Just sign up for a **** you know, guillotine. Uh yeah, French Revolution style. Like, I mean, you know, who the **** was that?
Starting point is 01:35:56 Kimball wasn't around and you know, close to 40 because that'd be perfect right there. This had off the charts craziness. Let's open with Conor McGregor's opening statement here. What's good Hollywood? Well as you can see beside me and in front of me some of the baddest men and women to ever grace planet earth. This is what we're about here at Bear Knuckle Fighting Championship, the alien of combat sport. And may we rise above the night sky and rain down blows viciously on all our deniers and announce here today that Bear Knuckle FC has no love for the big glove. So let's get going Bear Knuckle, let's go Florida
Starting point is 01:36:44 and let's announce some incredible matchups, some shock signings and the most lucrative tournament in all of combat sport where we crown in an open weight the baddest man on the planet. Let's go give it up. Luke, I know that guy's a POS. I know we're more done with him than need him. I know he's still talking about coming back and fighting on the White House lawn, but he's perfect for this circus. He really is.
Starting point is 01:37:17 You can't deny that. A hooked up hunter is perfect for this circus. He's using this whole thing to launder his image. I hope everybody knows that, right? I mean, the guy keeps taking L's in court over serious allegations about and now civil, civil, I'm not sure what the proper word would be, but being held liable on a civil court, you know, and then having a disaster of an appeal scenario where, you know, we've been over it.
Starting point is 01:37:44 You know, this is designed to launder his image. However, to your point, I mean, here's what's missing. He's got a bit of a celebrity factor and you're right. He's got like the whole trashy thing that works for this brand. But if I can be serious on one level, bro, he just has energy. He just has energy.
Starting point is 01:38:04 He comes in there. I wish he could get out of his UFC deal and fight in BKFC. I think it would be insane to watch. Well, I don't need to see him fight ever again. But to your point, I think fans would be interested in that. That's the more the point you're making. And more to the point, this is what I mean. Guys aren't showing up and being like, all right, who's got the first question? He's going in there. He's got rhymes. He's like these veins bulging out of his neck as he screams. And, you know, that's not going to appeal to every fan, but someone is trying to pump some life
Starting point is 01:38:33 into a fight promotion. And I'm telling you, among other reasons, it's why it's kind of working to say nothing of the fact that they're right. That tournament that they structured from a monetary standpoint is no bullshit. That's great. We also saw him nearly come to blows with Mike Perry. And it was crazy. Let's listen to this. Yeah. You're welcome back because I welcomed you back.
Starting point is 01:38:54 October 11th is your date and you'll dance for me. You'll dance for the owner and then we can talk. But your date is October 11th, Michael Perry, the return of platinum. And we've got some hell of an announcement for an opponent for you one of the baddest man to ever grace the ultimate fighting championship when it comes to bare-knuckle and he's gonna throw down with you in front of me for my viewing pleasure and then I'll decide if you're worthy dance for me who is it who's his? That's a badass ex UFC or is it going to be Tony Ferguson?
Starting point is 01:39:27 Oh my God, dude. That would be incredibly sad. Ferguson's taken a boxing match he said coming up. Yeah. Perry seemed to also work himself into a shoe against David Mundell, the BKFC middleweight champion who goes by the nickname redneck watch this it was a little bit
Starting point is 01:39:51 it was a little bit uh... i really respect it and and Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it. Don't get it Leonardo, help us. Let's bring him out. It's a hell of an advertisement for his Coke dealer, Luke. Did you see that movie he had at the end? That's wild, bro. Anyway-
Starting point is 01:40:31 Dairy, dairy, dairy. He's like, go for it, go for it. No, not here, no. Then he turns into Dave Schaller between Jones and Cormier, it was great. Dude, I have to tell you, I'm into this absolute bullshit. We don't even have the clip of Christine Ferreira telling that chick that she swallowed too much CUM, but that also happened in this press conference.
Starting point is 01:40:51 You know, I had such a good joke and I have to shield it because of the North Korean censors. Okay. So that's all I'm going to say. That's crazy. I cannot wait to find out who's in that tournament Thank you BKFC for being exactly as weird as you are and making cocaine friendly Wow, all right topic number five we go from the ridiculous to the inspirational in a lot of ways we we've chronicled of course the the very serious health turn for former UFC fighter, former Bellator champion and one FC veteran, Ben Askren, who ended up needing double lung transplants
Starting point is 01:41:32 after a very hellacious infection that led to pneumonia and so much more that went on there. And he also was denied insurance coverage of that and reportedly needed a multimillion dollar payout from a benefactor that has not become public in order to get that. Then Ben gave his first video update and it is humbling, inspirational, and and gnarly all at the same time. Here's Ben Askren in his own words from the hospital bed as he
Starting point is 01:42:01 continues to fight this battle out. What's up guys? Had not given you an update in a while. hospital bed as he continues to fight this battle out. No recollection, new idea, no idea what happened. We'll kind of go through it all and it's a, I just read through my wife's journal, it's like a movie, it's ridiculous. So I only died four times, or the ticker stopped for about 20 seconds. That's not ideal, I don't think you guys know that. But I got the double lung transplant, I made it out to the other side of it, gaining quite a bit of strength.
Starting point is 01:42:51 I'm learning to use everything again. I was actually, honestly, yesterday 147 pounds. I've been on 47 pounds since 15 years old. So I was like 50 pounds in a 45 degree period. So man, that was a battle. Although I don't remember most of it. And you know, the thing that was most impactful to me was all the love I felt from everybody. And it's almost like it was almost like I got to have my own theme room. Right. I still remember it 30 years ago when Dave Schultz died and you listen to all these older people, you you know recollect how much they enjoyed him not much they loved him and you know obviously you never ever hear that I'm sure some people will hold them but so man the outpouring of love from the wrestling community
Starting point is 01:44:00 of this this church is amazing felt so good um And so, you know, I'm more motivated than ever to keep giving, give back and do what I can and help out the best I can help out. I love you guys. I appreciate you guys. This has been tough, not only on me, but my whole family and my close community. So I appreciate everything. I hope you guys appreciate the update. And I guess that sometime down the road, maybe Amy and I can detail everything a little more. You there, BC? Yeah, I can hear you.
Starting point is 01:44:44 There's a side of you that's happy and you know, it's inspirational to see. There's another side of you that's sad to see a 40 year old man who was in great health, a great athlete in that position. Uh, thank God he's, you know, still fighting and recovering, but this is scary. It went from, uh, pneumonia to a staph infection. And then like we said, the instant need for a double lung transplant, a lot of luck had to come his way to even get that. But pneumonia to a staph infection. And then like we said, the instant need for a double lung transplant. A lot of luck had to come his way to even get that. And obviously he's going to need continued prayers and luck for the lungs to continue
Starting point is 01:45:15 to work. But I don't even know what to say, Luke. I'm humbled watching that. Wow, man. It's a miracle he's alive. You know, and it's a wonderful miracle, of course, but It's a miracle he's alive. You know, and it's a wonderful miracle, of course, but it's a miracle. Like I don't know how many people would have been able to survive something like that. To lose 45 or 50 pounds in 45 days or whatever it was, basically have more than a pound a
Starting point is 01:45:37 day. It's insane, dude. That is insane to say nothing of the fact that you have two lungs that you were not born with. To say nothing of the fact that like, you know, your body's probably been ravaged and put through the wringer. I mean, the recovery is going to be slow and probably take some time. I don't know what, you know, I don't know what a best case scenario looks like. I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 01:45:56 you know, I think I, I don't, I don't know, but I can just say, I think I, you know, I think a lot of people probably would say at this moment, like, dude, what a fighting spirit this guy has inside of him, huh? Pretty incredible, pretty incredible that he was able to do this. It just bothers me so much. I promise I'll just say it one time and I'll leave it alone. But the fact that the insurance denied him, the insurance took a look at his life and
Starting point is 01:46:24 said, it's okay for you to die. And this seems to me unforgivable and not a civilized way to organize a society. I'll leave it at that, but I really, really bothers me that that happened. However, to the point you raise, at least he had enough of a public profile that he was able to find, you know, a way to get this paid for. So whoever paid for that, thank you. That's an incredible gesture. You saved a guy's life, literally.
Starting point is 01:46:48 And- Whoever donated their organs to that. I mean, this is incredible. Yeah, you're right though. You're so right. You're so, I mean, and again, the doctors and the nurses who've been watching him and trying to keep him alive,
Starting point is 01:46:58 like everybody here is owed a debt of gratitude, but I'll just say, Ben, it's so nice to hear from you. Please keep us updated when you can. Take your time to heal. And while it was sobering to watch that BC, I have to say I'm so glad that he was able to have the strength to deliver a message to the public like that.
Starting point is 01:47:16 And for everyone watching too, man, dude, I don't know how you felt BC, but like in my late teens and early 20s, like I just was, I felt invincible. And then the older you get, like the, it's like, when everyone's life is different, but like, when I was a kid, I didn't know personally anybody
Starting point is 01:47:30 who had cancer. I didn't know personally people who had suffered like tragedies like this, you know? And now the older I get, I know a lot of people where terrible shit has happened to them. And it just really reminds you like, oh my God, dude, everything we have can be taken in an absolute instant when you least expect it, when you think it's the most improbable, when it's never top of mind, it can all be taken
Starting point is 01:47:51 like that. So it's in perspective, the problems, the battles we have day to day and not only our first world lives, but even think of things that are serious, like losing your job or, or this and that, you know what I mean? It all pales in comparison to when it hits you right in the face and it's, and it's time to fight to survive. And, and yeah, obviously our prayers are out to him, his wife, Amy, who, who, you know, must be going through it on a level we can't even imagine as kids and all that. And, you know, he mentioned, he got to hear some of the support that people
Starting point is 01:48:24 never get to hear when they, when they die young like this. And I saw a very heartfelt video from Corey Anderson, basically, you know, giving Astrakhan credit for his entire career in MMA and the inspiration and the help that he got early on. And it was great to hear that as well. I've always really liked Ben as a personality, as a fighter, never really got to know him or anything. But damn, damn, man. Quick tweet from Jake Paul, ex-opponent who also supported us and shout out just proved that he's one of the toughest fighters of all time. I didn't love where Jake was kind of calling out Dana White at that Chavez press conference. And I don't know who ultimately came through and helped Ben out, but God bless whoever did in the end. And if Jake was a part of that or even, you know, bringing more eyeballs to it, I can certainly respect that. But damn Ben, keep fighting, keep fighting, man. There is a lot to live for always. And I'm hoping these lungs take and that that health and damn, damn Luke. Okay, it is what it is but damn man, right? Wow. All right. We close
Starting point is 01:49:27 this loaded Friday Joe with our pair of fan segments and morning combat at gmail.com is your entry into Mikey's inbox and your chance to show him exactly what your cubes look like. I mean, it's happened before. I hope it doesn't happen again. We're not always right. We get a lot of facts wrong. This is our chance to be accountable, to be humble, and to maybe take that L. It's called Dead Wrong. There it is. JP JP in the house. He says good day, Luke BC and diggity Donk Nation, your 2022 MK co Donk of the
Starting point is 01:50:15 year JP calling BC out on the Dead wrong on Monday show at 14508 after DMs, BC said that was your fan submissions for the week. Incorrect segment, BC, as mentioned, it was DMs from Donk's. Mount fan subs, not the biggest wrong, but wanted to contribute much love from JP and Don the Boss Lady.
Starting point is 01:50:34 MK in your house, let's get that campaign going, Donk's. Shout out to the becats up there in Mount U Nike, Luke, but I am dead wrong in that instance. It happened. All right, and not the biggest mistake, but, uh, very, very pedantic, but great to catch up with our good friend JP. Uh, let's hear from Nick from Virginia and a dead wrong that Jasper Peter and Michael also wrote in Nick says for the first time in a long time I'm here and
Starting point is 01:50:59 I'm here to serve BC his own butt on Monday's episode at 31 minutes and a few ticks in Luke asks BC of Poirier Holloway three will go the distance. BC States it should go the distance as both of their previous fights went the distance BC you brain dead Jabroni though the second fight did go the distance their first fight ended in the first round with Paui way mounting Holloway with a gnarly triangle arm bar. If a fight between two female straw weights ended in that fashion, I guarantee you would remember it. And I don't want to hear any ooze or ahs from LT because he didn't catch your blunder
Starting point is 01:51:36 in real time. I bet the first ingredient on that screaming freedom is lead. You guys are great. Till next time, smoke grass and eat ass and P.S. Long Island Luke, put down that bong and pick up some roses for your gal. You sad excuse for a second generation horned up Aussie. Holy shit, Nick just jumped off the top rope. Well, Luke, you taking that? I'll take that because that was pretty funny. The screaming, catching strays, you're taking that? I'll take that because that was pretty funny. The screaming free has been catching strays, but
Starting point is 01:52:07 that's well done there. All right. Let's hear from Aaron, who goes by big as a G, big as a G, big as a G. He says at forty four fifty three on Thursday, July third, B.C. said while talking about Islam moving to welterweight, if Islam wins the championship against DDP. Hey, B.C., you might have forgot that he's old and that but DDP is the middleweight champion and the not the welterweight champion That's the great almighty JDM. Jack. Della. Maddalena. Love it
Starting point is 01:52:37 Love from Australia, especially to long Island. Look, it's big A's a G. Yeah, I'll take that L I said yeah, I said it, okay. Let's hear from Daz. He's gonna mahalo our ass and give us a, maybe a blast from the past, right? Yeah, okay. He says at 1.50.50 of Thursday's July 3rd show, Luke is going over the MK fansub from Alan W.
Starting point is 01:52:59 And he mentions weird ass scorpion, Chuck Mindenhall. Luke must be confused because Chuck in the blue costume was clearly sub-zero, while Bronstetter in the yellow was scorpion. Also for what it's worth, I think Jed in sunglasses was supposed to be Johnny Cage. So Luke, you wanna take that out? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Yeah, I'll take that out, that's fair. Okay. And finally, aloha, donks, I got one more from Daz on Thursday's episode. The graphics team, Mikey made an error during LT and BC's UFC, uh, top five pound for pound rankings. Marab's last name was consistently spelled DV Lashvili. This is dead wrong. It's there's an L in there. The ball is real. Yeah. Yeah. Understand. Well, this season, these are pretty pedantic understandable mistake as it's not the easiest to spell, but dead wrong. Nonetheless, thank you for your content.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Thank you, Daz and everyone else who pedantically jumped in there. We got one more fan sub segment for you. Can you beat what we saw last week? This is where you send in tight t-shirts and pictures of Saul's wife. Yeah. It's fansubs. You've got mail. Viewers.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Speaking of Louisville's finest Saul, he says, what up B? My wife and I hosted a Jersey Shore themed pool party for her birthday. I spiked my hair up as Polly D, but it was so hot, it wouldn't stay up. I actually got hate from the Paramount store that this was the week before the new She launched but however, I did rock my skits and bitch shirt
Starting point is 01:54:32 I have no idea what that last sentence said by the way, and he wrote that high as fuck. Yeah. Yeah Oh, maybe he got MK hats from the Paramount store before the site launched and then That's from the Paramount store before the site launched. And then he did rock his. Re-launch badly. Luke, nobody represents MK in the flesh more than Saul A from Louisville. Look at this. Yeah, this man, he lives the brand.
Starting point is 01:54:54 We'd have to go to his house and you could bang his girl. I mean, I'm not really into that, but you know, it's something to think about, right? Yeah, all right. Let's get a Saul sandwich. I'll be the meat. Let's hear from Appie. Dude, right? Yeah. All right. Let's get it. Let's get a soul sandwich. I'll be the meat. Uh, let's hear from Appie dude. All the, all our friends are coming out.
Starting point is 01:55:09 David Appleton. Hi guys. BC often talks about his French Canadian origins, but on a recent visit to the Louvre museum in Paris, I discovered that his family roots go back to France itself. Here's a painting of the big beige ones, prestigious ancestor, emperor Napoleon himself behaving in classic Campbell statesman like manner. PS having made this discovery, you now have to come to Chateau Appleton to do a
Starting point is 01:55:36 pregame preview of the Paris card in September. Chairs guys, big French kisses from your favorite English teacher, David Appleton. That's good shit right there. Is that happy? You've been to Paris, BC? Yes, I have. Yeah. Last summer. It was great.
Starting point is 01:55:51 It's great. That's funny. Best time of my life. Really? It really was. Yeah. I don't want to have the official drink of Chateau Appie, which is Rue Hypnol. I'll pass on that.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Appie's like, here, I got some GHB. Let's try it together. All right. Let's hear from Namanja who says, hi, donks. On the special Thursday edition of MK that aired on July 3rd, Luke made a suggestion to do a home invasion MK show. Here is just a little photo reminder for all the lunatics out there that are thinking about inviting Luke and Brian into their homes. Like Luke so eloquently
Starting point is 01:56:26 put it, I will ruin your plumbing and BC will bang your wife. Shout out to the best host in MMA media and that loving boyfriend from down under. Keep up the awesome work and greetings from Macedonia. That's in Europe, BC. Oh my God. That's so good. That is so good. The dumb and dumber thing is, I mean, I don't know if I've seen a more perfect this is unbelievable. Look, what do you make of this fellow? Nemanja being from Macedonia. That's amazing, right? Yeah, that's amazing. I cannot believe how good this is. That is so awesome, so awesome. We got one from Jonas.
Starting point is 01:57:11 He says, yours truly, it's Jonas. Let's see it. Unlucky Luke, take me to Spain and I'll take Islam off your mind. I'll be your American beauty, Ilya. You are reading way too much into these roses. Are you Kevin Spacey in this recreation of American Beauty? I don't quite get it.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Also, Ilja looks very unhappy with my presence in his la camita. You know what I'm saying? Well, I think you just blew up his commode. Probably. Yeah, yeah. Upper deck. I'm sorry, Ilja. We close with the fan sub assassin and podcasts contributor and supporter known as Alan W a
Starting point is 01:57:45 multi-time Donk of the Year nominee. His first one is called Donk Street presents counting margaritas with Count Donkula. That's pretty good. Count all the way to Margaritaville. I think we'll stop at three there Count. Thank you. Donk Street. That's pretty good. I don't know if I can have seven. Three seems to be the limit, but, uh, well done. Donk Street presents also gives us on the road, a fatty liver journey. Wow. Is that my car? Luke? That's unbelievable. You might be tempted to think that the two glizzies is the move here, but I have to tell you it's the googly eyes. That really is the one that works.
Starting point is 01:58:23 But I have to tell you it's the googly eyes that really is that works Shout out to my suit 2020 Subaru Crosstrek that my kids have taken over. I no longer drive I miss that car Luke, you know, come on. Let's hear more from Alan He says morning combat presents big trouble in little Donkville. Oh My god, and wait, wait, wait, wait. So hold on. I'm obviously Kurt Russell and then Long Island. Luke is low pan. It looks like it. Where am I? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Where's my eyes? Yeah. Where are my eyes? They're not the same size. This is interesting. All right. Uh, we got one more from Donk street presents. It's the RSD that will never be.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Uh, I always said come to Long Island and I'd rather get AIDS or get **** by an eight **** walrus. So, that's gotta be no seat on the phone with you, Luke, right? Yeah. Yeah. Back in, back when we had the the bomb shelter uh couch. Yeah. Long Island and by the way, thank you, Lyle and W and thank you fans for those wonderful comments. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you, Luke, right? Yeah. Yeah. Back in, back when we had the, the bomb shelter, uh, couch. Yeah. Long Island. And by the way, thank you, Lyle and W and thank you fans for those incredible
Starting point is 01:59:30 fan submissions. Morning combat at gmail.com for your dead wrongs, fan subs or to reach out to the show to complain or suggest, uh, we'll be there for you. Tell Mikey we said, hi, long Island. Luke, I'm willing to break into Malka studios. If you can get a flap, you know, if you can get a truck and we'll just steal that couch and bring it to your house. I mean, I have an RSD like couch in my living room. You guys just need to come to my living room and we can record RSD here. Luke refuses to come to long Island for whatever reason.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Can BC bang your girl? No, absolutely not. Yeah, yeah. If we shook out the cushion- I'm just saying that's the deal. Could I get enough shake for like a dime bag out of that couch or what? Yeah, you get probably like an eighth out of that couch.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Yeah, there we go, there we go. All right, morningcombat.shop for your merch needs. One more reminder, check out this fantastic shirt right here the MK punch out Luke's also wearing one of our old classics There's a few you know evergreen products on there, but our July exclusives of the one two three margaritas of the Fantastic technical thriller shirt, and how about our autographed or unautographed? Combate Thriller shirt and how about our autographed or unautographed? combate What's that word there?
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Starting point is 02:01:27 Yes. I'll have content for you. Yes. Okay. For, for not just, I'm still pissed off about it. Yeah. Don't, you know, it's just one of them days. Don't take a personal, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:01:39 Don't take it personal. Yeah. Uh, long I look, you done talking? You got anything else talking you got anything else you got anything else for us I'm doing watch along Taylor Serrano tonight 8 p.m. doing full card UFC Nashville tomorrow join me main car minute thank you very much bro your girl she loves me she better for Luke Thomas's Internet, I'm Brian Campbell. Thank you so much for joining us. We will be back Monday from home, 11 a.m. Eastern, and then Wednesday of next week. It's Pre Game Preview brought to you by Cuervo, UFC 318, Jed Meshew, number two in the building.
Starting point is 02:02:22 So we'll find out what that dirt hole is up to. And, uh, for Luke Thomas's anger, we must say goodbye now. Thank you for playing. Take care of yourselves. We're out of here. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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